USDA to Purchase Submachine Guns

by | May 15, 2014 | Headline News | 197 comments

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    The United States Department of Agriculture is set to purchase an unknown quantity of submachine guns, leading to questions about where the weapons will be heading and for what purpose they will be used.


    A solicitation (replete with spelling errors) posted on the Fed Biz Opps website states;

    “The U.S. Department of Agriculture, Office of Inspector General, located in Washington, DC, pursuant to the authority of FAR Part 13, has a requirement for the commerical (sic) acquisition of submachine guns, .40 Cal. S&W, ambidextrous safety, semi-automatic or 2 shot burts (sic) trigger group, Tritium night sights for front and rear, rails for attachment of flashlight (front under fore grip) and scope (top rear), stock-collapsilbe (sic) or folding, magazine – 30 rd. capacity, sling, light weight, and oversized trigger guard for gloved operation.”

    Hopefully, those operating the semi-automatic weapons will be better skilled than whoever is writing solicitations on behalf of the USDA, but the fact that the law enforcement division of the United States Forest Service, which operates under the USDA, is not mentioned in the request has prompted some to questionwhere the guns will be going.

    “They will no doubt attempt to justify their purchase of military hardware by explaining that they conduct criminal investigations and may need to do armed raids,” writes Bob Owens, adding, “This is part of a trend to arm every branch of federal government, whether the individual agency has a legitimate need for a paramilitary force or not.”

    Concerns over large ammunition purchases by the Department of Homeland Security have raged over the past two years, although a recent Government Accountability Office investigation downplayed the issue as nothing out of the ordinary.

    More pertinent than the amount of bullets purchased has been the type of ammunition and the DHS’ insistence that companies be able to supply them quickly if needed, which some have linked to the federal agency’s preparations for domestic unrest in the United States.

    In May last year, the DHS sent out a request for information asking companies if they could provide 2 million bullets within a 30-60 day turnaround period.

    In October 2013, the DHS acknowledged it was hiring armed guards to secure government buildings in the event of “public demonstration(s)” and “civil disturbances,” while also spending half a million dollars on fully automatic pepper spray launchers and projectiles that are designed to be used during riot control situations.

    In February last year, Law Enforcement Targets Inc., a contractor that had previously done $2 million dollars worth of business with the DHS, was forced to apologize after producing “no more hesitation” shooting targets which depicted pregnant women, children, and elderly gun owners in residential settings as “non-traditional threats.”

    More recently the DHS issued a solicitation for over 141,00 rounds of sniper ammunition, bullets known commercially as “Zombie Max,” a reference to their high power.

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      1. USDA has their fingers in a lot of pies and not just cow pies.

        Food Stamps and the Forest Service are in there.
        It looks like each sub-agency has their own cops and commissars.

        Actually, it looks like ALL government agencies now have cops and commissars.

        Der fuhrer is keeping his promise.
        “…a civilian security force just as big and just as strong…”

        • Now why is it that USDA gets 30 round magazines when more and more of us are limited to 10, or 15?????? HHHHMMMMMMMM????????

          • Now when the USDA employees go berserk,

            they can call it ‘Going Dairy’.

            • I think when the Patriots respond it will
              be called ” Lactose Intolerance ”
              — Miss Dee Dee

              • Maybe it’s for the Mad Cows?

                • And He said also to the multitudes: When you see a cloud rising from the west, presently you say: A shower is coming: and so it happeneth: And when ye see the south wind blow, you say: There will be heat: and it cometh to pass. You hypocrites, you know how to discern the face of the heaven and of the earth: but how is it that you do not discern this time?

                  Luke 12:54-56

          • Our Government is “Smoking CRACK”, and that “Crack Drug is Money” from Tax Payers. Honestly, its time to STOP feeding the Beast. Why would you keep funding a Government that is hell bent on destroying the People’s Liberties, Freedoms, as their master grand plan to exterminate the population. Its time to STOP Funding the Domestic Terrorists.

          • Our Government is “Smoking CRACK”, and that “Crack Drug is Money” from Tax Payers. Honestly, its time to STOP feeding the Beast. Why would you keep funding a Government that is hell bent on destroying the People’s Liberties, Freedoms, as their master grand plan to exterminate the population. Its time to STOP Funding the Domestic Terrorists.

          • USDA is also getting body armor to go with those sub-guns.

            From Breitbart:

            A May 7th solicitation by the U.S. Department of Agriculture seeks “the commercial acquisition of ballistic vests, compliant with NIJ 0101.06 for Level IIIA Ballistic Resistance of body armor.”
            According to the solicitation, “The U.S. Department of Agriculture, Office of Inspector General,” seeks “Body Armor [that] is gender specific, lightweight, [having] trauma plate/pad (hard or soft), [and] concealable carrier.” The order includes “tactical vest, undergarment (white), identification patches, accessories (6 pouches), body armor carry bag, and professional measurements.”
            “All responsible and/or interested sources may submit their company name, point of contact, and telephone number.” The solicitation says those sources received in a “timely” manner “shall be considered by the agency for contact.”

            When they come in at 0 dark thirty with their no-knock warrants looking for your non-GMO seed corn, you better have some of that AP ready.

            • It is more evident everyday that the government’s “supposed enemy” already resides in the U.S. How about a question no one seems to ask: why is the enemy of this country considered people who have lived here for generations, whose grandfathers, fathers, and brothers having died for this country?

              Or is the enemy someone else, who has infiltrated the country and telling us we must consider the Constitution a “living document with no meaning, unless it means what we want it to mean”?

              I am fed up with this BS.

            • Level IIIA defeats pistol rounds up to .44 Magnum.

              Level III defeats rifle rounds up to .30-06 Ball.

              Level IV defeats AP rounds up to .30-06 AP.

              • The level IV will only stop the first one, after that the ceramic plate is shattered and the others are coming through, I was on a swat team for 7years.

              • The level IV will only stop the first one, after that the ceramic plate is shattered and the others are coming through, I was on a swat team for 7years, they are intended as entry suits, they are heavy and bulky, your not gonna run in them at least not very far, ey are suppose to get the officer in the door alive and give him or members of the team time to return fire, but once that plat is shattered they become a level IIII



            • If you organize with strangers you will be infiltrated (and likely taken down).

              Organize with people you have already known and trusted for decades… OR be a loner.

          • Easy answer they will need those weapons to help the USDA seize farmers crops and livestock.

        • NEW Ord

          It does seem as if a large portion of the world is only living within the reach of social media, but the truth is very bleak. People have ignored that moment of Obama in history or they refuse to make the connection, shallowness and the depth of knowledge can be measured by the size of the device screen they use.
          I often wonder how low info people can openly rationalize their own ignorance, I also imagine how quickly these people will fall into destitution as the new world unfolds before them, the physical and spiritual distress of what’s coming can only be compared to the major shifts in the history of man.

          • This Rogue Administration has imposed its NWO Socialist will upon the American people and is quickly turning the “land of the free and the home of the brave” into a gulag.

            How? By obtaining political consent for “Hope and Change”.

            Only 129 million Americans voted in the last election; including those who voted twice, illegals who voted, and the dead in Chicago. It is a documented fact that white voters stayed home. Now, the economic system in America is worse than ever for ALL racial groups, but especially Black America.

            Liberty Lovers and Patriots must use the Tea Party as their political vehicle to take control of the Retards and concentrate upon the US Constitution. Just the Constitution.

            Do not be distracted by peripheral issues like abortion, or gay rights, no matter how strongly you feel about these issues. Focus your energy on the BIG picture. Stick to Constitutional issues. With control of a major political party, the American People can re-establish America as a “land of opportunity” for everyone, not just the 1%.

            Third parties that want to push religious or moral issues are not useful and cannot respond to this immediate need. Time is of the essence for America, and time is of the essence for YOU. Pray for America.

            Gun control, illegal immigration, jobs, spending and debt will be addressed by the next Congress. Make sure that the next Congress represents American values and American interests.

            Organize, communicate, volunteer, donate, and vote for Patriots. 100 million American gun owners hold the future of this nation in their hands. Get involved. You are responsible for the Constitution in your neck of the woods.

            Engage! 🙂

            • These coming mid-term elections are THE focal point for the future of America. If Obama can consolidate his political majority, the wave of destruction that will wash over America will be unimaginable.

              Gun control will become a legal REALITY, even if it is unconstitutional.

              If you value your liberties, get involved. Take to the streets, the ballot box, and social media. Magnify your voice in a group. Magnify your personal power in an organization.

              The future of your children and the nation is at stake. WE can make a difference. Participate. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. Light up the phones at your elected Representatives office about these arm purchases by “benign” government departments. Raise hell.

              They count the for and against calls. 🙂

              • Voting is about as useless as masturbating. Voting for whomever the party hacks decide to offer up to us just gives legitimacy to the fraud that is our “representative” government. Our elected officials do not care what their constituents want; they do what their masters tell them to do and they only give in to public opinion when it happens to coincide with what they were going to do anyway. The current administration also chooses to just issue executive orders if they cannot get something passed by their congressional lackeys, or they go through the other cabinet level agencies and the bureaucracy.

                We wonder why nothing ever changes in Washington, yet we continue to try and effect change by playing the game that the corrupt establishment owns. It is like trying to beat the house at gambling, yet the house is the one with the multi-million dollar casinos while we go home broke after every visit. If I were to offer a solution, it would be to try and provoke a reaction from the establishment that reveals them to be the thuggish bullies that they are behind all their outward civility and supposed rule of law. The confrontation in Nevada over cattle came close to doing just that; a response such as provoking the federal goons into using automatic weapons and snipers on dairy farmers refusing to quit selling raw milk is an example of what I am talking about. Unfortunately, violent revolution will be needed to fix the current mess. By refusing to employ civil disobedience to unconstitutional laws and violence to remove public servants who paid lip service to their oaths of office, we have allowed the government at all levels to get wildly out of control to the point that it will take extreme measures and horrific levels of violence to correct.

                • Well, how has sitting at home, seething in anger instead of voting, been working for you?

                  Seems like if what you’re doing now ain’t working for you, perhaps it’s time to try something different for a change.

                  We’ve already tried not giving “legitimacy to the fraud that is our “representative” government” without any positive effect.

                  Might wanna try something new for a change…unless you like the way things are now.

                  • How has voting been working for you? Does your elected representative mirror your values and your views?

                    The Founders never envisioned one congressmen representing hundreds of thousands of voters. They codified this in Article 1 of the Constitution where a congressman was supposed to represent a maximum of 30,000 citizens. This kept them from getting too big for their britches since they were more likely to personally know the voters they represented as well as being known personally by those who voted for them. Senators were appointed by state legislatures and responsible to recall if they did not represent the interests of their state.

                    Whether you or I or every brain-dead Kardashian-watching moron gets out to the polls is irrelevent at this point. Countries like Cuba and North Korea have elections too, with 100% voter particpation even! How is that working for them? “Oh, but those are dictatorships”, you say, “and not real elections.” Well, how is our system any different? You have primaries where you choose from bozo A or bozo B, who have been vetted as being reliable to the party by the party bosses. These go up for competition with the winning bozo from the other wing of the Enslave the Populace Party. And once they are sent to Washington, they rubber stamp decisions that have been made by the powerful interests that are well hidden from view; who pull the strings and call the shots. Sounds like a real representative government, right? One that can be changed by more voting?

                    Give me a break; go vote if it makes you feel good. I will wait for it to collapse under it’s own weight, helping it along where I can and standing by to fight them when they reveal their violent and evil intentions openly.

                  • OFF TOPIC
                    Michigan has a bill in legislature to impose long gun registration on residents .
                    HB 4774
                    Call your mich. rep. and be heard !

                  • Moon asks below, “How has voting been working for you,” implying it hasn’t. I appreciate much of what Moon says, but ultimately it is a recipe for disaster. How has it been working for me. Not well, admittedly. But MUCH BETTER than letting the leftists take the whole cake and smash it. Besides, whatever their limitations, I can live with a Rubio, Rand Paul, Ron Paul, US Rep Randy Hultgren (R-IL), and of course Ted Cruz would be marvelous. Our battle is one of education and information dissemination, non-violently. It is these two areas that we must take back. So, yes, I will vote, and am active politically. It ain’t perfect, but it is better than capitulation. And yes, I in fact *am* trying something different: I am working to get Tea Party folks elected, and educating and informing hundreds or thousands of people by talking, emailing, leaving flyers around (thousand of them, home-made), etc.

                • It’s useless? Damn.

              • Elections don’t matter. America is too far gone.

                The fate of most Americans will be to die during the famine and violence that will follow the collapse of the dollar. God is going to punish America for the murders of 55 million unborn children. Besides, America has become that hates God, hates Christians, and loves evil.

              • I am passed the point of caring what laws are passed at this point. Let them try to enforce illegal laws. When law-abiding citizens of this country are considered the criminals, I want someone in government to tell me “why” in a straightforward explanation. No explanation, no compliance.

            • DK,
              Your above comment is one of the reasons I read your comments whether they are hidden or not. I may not always agree with you but I do believe you think before you press the letters on the keyboard.I also think your heart is in the right.
              Thanks for your input.
              — Miss Dee Dee

        • Yaaaaae…. Meat inspectors with sub machine guns… what could go wrong…..


          • Why would the USDA need weapons?

            Something to ponder. As some believe, it’s just another “arm” of TPTB, to be swung at Americans in case of an all out revolutionary uprising. Possibly true.

            There is also another possibility that many have overlooked and it boils down to “sustenance”, and the protection of such; primarily wheat.

            Let’s take a look at Russia first. They are the worlds fifth largest producer/growers of wheat, but the world’s “third” largest consumer. Imports are a necessity.
            Guess what? Ukraine is the eleventh largest producer of grain because of its land mass and climate, and it produces more than it consumes.

            Light bulbs beginning to turn on in your heads?

            The dastardly, government controlled, communist countries of China and Iran, consume more than they can produce also. They have plenty of Cash and Oil resources, but food consumption is huge. India is a factor also, but they produce about what they consume, as well as the EU.

            Light bulb getting brighter?

            Now, let’s look at Canada and USA. Canada is the sixth largest producer of wheat and the second largest “exporter”. USA is the third largest producer/grower and the “largest” exporting country in the world. We export about half of all we grow annually and Canada exports about three fourths of what they produce.

            If the big three; Russia, China, and Iran, have all the oil they need, but need more food, what better place to get it than North America. They don’t want to buy it or trade for it.
            They want to steal it; come to take a spoil. They see themselves as the world’s “dominate” forces, locked together against one foe. Last piece of that puzzle is when Iran has nukes.

            It has been foretold in the Good Book. It will happen just as it was spoken.

            I think TPTB see it coming. What they don’t see is that God has said “He will” take care of them because they are not of our Rock. It is in the works. Watch as it unfolds.


            • PWTW:

              Great post. It reminds me WHO is REALLY in control and what to put my faith in. THANKS!

            • Well, I don’t know about all that. By the time we launch all our sub based ICBMs Iran, Russia and China will not have much of an appetite for all our wheat much lees the hungry mouths . Then there is always 200 million+ Americans with guns. … YEA, I don’t see that happening

            • If that was the case, they would need better than .40 caliber handgun ammo in a machine gun.

        • your leaders have stolen your wealth, your country, your rights and freedoms, now they have to use dumb sheep to defend themselves against YOU

          • @ billybob –

            I don’t know about you, but I want me one of those sexy looking little machine pistols like the ‘dweeb’ in the picture was holding!!!!!

            Bought and paid for ‘hired-help’, those tough guys & gals motivated only by a paycheck and that good old adrenalin rush of authority; they have this nasty tendency to ‘fold’ quickly and fade quietly away shortly after receiving the first return fire.

            It ALWAYS comes down to one resolute man with a rifle going up against another equally resolute man with a rifle. It’s starting to feel a lot like the early spring and summer of 1967 all over again.

            Please be sure and keep your seat belts securely fastened and your hands inside the car at all times. It’s going to be a wild ride!

        • “(10) I vote Democrat, because I love the fact that I can now marry whatever I want. I’ve decided to marry my German Shepherd.” (In Friday’s Drudge Report, someone wanted to marry his computer)

          “(9) I vote Democrat, because I believe oil company profits of 4% on a gallon of gas are obscene, but the government taxing a gallon at 15% isn’t obscene.”

          “(8) I vote Democrat, because I believe the government will do a better job of spending the money I earn, than I would.”

          “(7) I vote Democrat, because freedom of speech is fine as long as no one is offended by it.”

          “(6) I vote Democrat, because I’m way too irresponsible to own a gun, and I know the local police are all I need to protect me from murderers and thieves. I am also thankful that we have 911 service that get police to your home in order to identify your body after a home invasion.”

          “(5) I vote Democrat, because I’m not concerned about babies being aborted, so long as we keep death row inmates alive and comfy.”

          “(4) I vote Democrat, because I think illegal aliens have a right to free health care, education, and Social Security benefits.”

          “(3) I vote Democrat, because I believe that businesses should not be allowed to make profits for themselves. They need to break even and give the rest to the government for redistribution, as Democrats see fit.”

          “(2) I vote Democrat, because I believe that liberal judges need to rewrite the Constitution every few days to suit fringe kooks, who would never get their agendas past the voters.”

          “(1) The Reason I vote Democrat, is because I think its better to pay billions for oil to people who hate us, but not to drill our own, because it might upset some endangered beetle, gopher or fish.”
          Recorded Democrat Credits

          In 1865, a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln.

          In 1881, a Democrat shot James Garfield who later died from the wound.

          In 1975, a Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford.

          In 1983, a Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan.

          In 1984, a Democrat shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.

          In 1986, a Democrat shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma Post Office.

          In 1990, a Democrat shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.

          In 1991, a Democrat shot and killed 23 people at a Luby’s Cafeteria in Killeen, Texas.

          In 1991, a Democrat shot and killed 8 people at a church service.

          In 1995, a Democrat shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.

          In 2001, a Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George Bush.

          In 2003, a Democrat shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin Plant.

          In 2010, a Democrat shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, and killed 6 others.

          In 2011, a Democrat shot and killed 12 people in movie theatre.

          In 2012, a Democrat shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.

          In 2013, a Democrat shot and killed 26 in a school at Newtown, CT.

          In 2013, a Democrat shot 12 at a Navy Yard in D.C.

          Not one NRA member, Tea Party Conservative, or Conservative Republican was involved in any of these shootings or murders.

          Solution? Keep guns out of Democrat hands!

          And finally, here are a few words from that great black academician, Thomas Sowell:

          “Much of the social history of the western world, over the past three decades, has been a history of replacing what worked, with what sounded good.”

          “I think this man, (Obama), really does believe he can change the world, and people like that are infinitely more dangerous than mere crooked politicians.”

          “It’s amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication, somehow think we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication, and a government bureaucracy to pay for it.”

          “It’s hard to imagine a more stupid or more dangerous way of making decisions, than putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong.”

          “I have always believed that everyone should play by the same rules and be judged by the same standards, that would have labeled you a radical 60 years ago, a liberal 30 years ago, and a racist today.”

          “I have never understood why it is ‘greed’ to want to keep the money you’ve earned, but not greed to take some one else’s money.”

          “If you have been voting for politicians who promise to give you goodies at someone else’s expense, then you have no right to complain when they take your money, and give it to someone else, including themselves.”

          “One of the consequences of such notions as ‘entitlements,’ is that people who have contributed nothing to society, think society owes them something, apparently for just being nice enough to grace us with their presence.”

          • The “entitlements” you stupid old pantywastes are bitching about are miniscule in comparison to the handouts to huge corporations.

            Do you morons get this through your skull?

            • Yep, thats right, Rotten.. the gov. is sending billions to Ukraine, (just one example) on behalf of the banksters– they can’t wait to gobble up another country!

          • Yeah, by all means vote Republican!

            Then we can have another 9-11 attack, another invasion of the wrong country, another Patriot Act, and further destruction of the Constitution (if that’s possible!)…

            (Its only a “damn piece of paper” anyhow, according to Republipuke George W. Bush!)

        • For a government that’s so anti-guns for citizens, they sure don’t mind packing as much heat as possible for themselves! (I thought guns were “dangerous”?!)

      2. Well, all I can say is this..

        We should do the same to the best of our abilities..

        Match fire with fire..

        And for naysayers..the feds as well as local and state P.D. only qualify twice a year..

        We, on the other hand,qualify at least weekly if not more.

        So there..superior firepower or not..we have the home advantage..

        Fuck em all..


        • Its unbelievable the arrogance most of these POS bass turds possess,
          Real easy to shoot at paper, different scenario when the paper shoots back with extreme malice.

          • Art Bell use to coin the phrase THE QUICKENING. I think it now applies more so than anytime in most people’s lifetimes. At least there are no short supplies of articles for this site. I am still waiting for that one event, likely a black swan, that knocks most people back in their seats and they get that glazed look in their eyes like a deer staring at the oncoming headlights before………deer burgers.

            • THE QUICKENING comes from the 80s movie HIGHLANDER, a tale of immortals who lived among us and were destined to fight each other until only one remained. THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE!

              • I carry a kitana under my trench coat every time I go to a big event. Why? Because I can.

                • I carry a claymore and a Barrett light .50 under mine, but then I am hung like three horses so it doesn’t look out of the ordinary.

            • @BI
              Its not IF but WHEN it happens, thats what keeps me on my toes more than anything

            • @BI
              Its not IF but WHEN it happens, thats what keeps me on my toes more than anything

          • It seams our country is out of control and a power struggle is under way. No one is in charge right now.

            • It sure seems that way, it seems all the politicians know how to do is pass piles of ridiculous legislation, thousands of laws,
              For what?
              They can stuff their laws.

              • When it is easier to pass a new law than it is to start a new business then the system of government we have allowed to govern us is irretrievably broken.

                I agree; they can stuff their laws…

              • do you read captain capitalism? (blog)

                the unproductive class in our modern world have nothing better to do, because they are incapable of producing anything of worth, therefore their attention is drawn to social engineering or writing BS laws to micromanage our (the serfs) lives while we fund them.

                this is their cover for their own inadequacy. regulators — are useless money wasting positions. the people who are supposed to enforcing regulations know nothing about the industry they regulate.

                also thousands of laws on the books ensures that there are many many criminals for the police state to crack heads. (ayn rand)

                • +1 for referencing Ayn Rand.

                  “There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”

                  From Atlas Shrugged.

                  She was remarkably prescient about where her adopted country was headed, having seen firsthand the horrors of communism. And she was a big advocate of men living peacefully without the need for laws and regulations to compel actions. Rational self interest and rational thought, not using force unless it had been used first against oneself.

                  • I love that book, is amazing how it parallels our world today, troubling but definitely curious the similarities.

                  • I just obtained that book last week.
                    I am looking foward to reading now more than before because of your reference.
                    Thank You,
                    — Miss Dee Dee

                  • “When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion —
                    when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing —
                    when you see money flowing to those who deal, not in goods, but in favors —
                    when you see that men get richer by graft and pull than by work, and your laws don’t protect you against them, but protect them against you —
                    when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice —
                    you may know that your society is doomed.” Ayn Rand

                  • “+1 for referencing Ayn Rand”

                    Agreed… it was a great read… and enlightening…

                    Watched a b/w interview of her… an amazing woman…

                    She so clearly saw the future…

                  • I’ve been reading this, but have to out it down at times due to the parallels of today. Gets my fire burning for a doover.

        • you want to know what time is the most stressful time in a cops job?

          two weeks before qualifying

          • I thought it was when the Dunkin Donuts was out of bearclaws.

            • oh, dam I forgot about that

              • VRF Moon;
                You are both right. (don’t forget the cream filled)

                Unless they are like me and I know that there are.
                We don’t eat doughnuts, and we practice every week. You will find that these are the guys that will stand with you WTSHTF.

                But you are correct, most guy can’t shoot any better than 75%. Look at the cops in N.Y. shot some where around 20 rounds only hit the bad guy, once or twice (I think) and his several by standers. That is why I practice so I won’t hit by standers.

                Lot of people are afraid of cops. Most of them can’t shoot worth a S$%T, and are too fat to chase you. I’m 60 years old and in better shape than 90% of the guys I work with. I know that I can’t out run the 20 to 30 year olds but I can keep up with them.

                Never go face to face with them, because they out weigh you and will us their weight against you.


                • I expect the government to threaten the families of cops that won’t cooperate after it hits the fan. I expect most of them to either stand with the government or to stay home and try to protect their families.

                  • Barn:
                    From what I have heard and seen that it will be around 40% to stand and fight along side the Patriots.
                    For me you know where I stand. I will also be home protecting my family.

                • Use there weight against you………lol..half these cops can’t walk anywhere. To busy riding around in the car harassing people.

                  I can’t wait to go face to face with these thugs in blue.

                  At 6’2″ and 260 lbs, I can hold my own with them physically.

                  As far as weapons. My gun Simon can hold his own.

                • Why did they even shoot with bystanders right by? There was a time that would have resulted in charges and firing.

                  • J.W.
                    Very good question.
                    POORLY TRAINED!!!

                • SGT, if you run every day and get a little better gradually, you can OUT RUN the younger guys! I know a LOT of “old folks” that can run circles around the younger people… just practice!

                • Here in communicut, you get one notice to register your vehicle. A friend forgot to register, and got pulled over and ticketed this week. The state trooper told him everything he needed to do to get out of the ticket. The local courthouse is across he state from where he lives, so he says to the cop it would be cheaper to pay the ticket. The cop said don’t give the fuckers the satisfaction.

        • I am not an optimist by nature, I am a realist. But I truly believe that, unlike the expectation that resistance will bring down an iron hand on us, I declare that I believe resistance will, in fact, be our deliverance.

          I know LEOs. They want to go home to their family at night just like everyone else. The reason the tyrant’s men are fearless so far is because THEY HAVE HAD NOTHING TO FEAR.

          If they continue to press such as the Bundy incident, it is only a matter of time before a trigger is pulled on one or the other side. And then it will start.

          Read the papers, read the news on the web. Americans aren’t buying record amounts of guns and ammo just to turn them all in.

          When the game will change is when local LEO, enforcing the tyrant’s illegal decrees, bring down a terrible rain of fire on their own heads. They will soon understand that they enforce NO LAW but the tyrant’s will. They will reconsider…and they will fear what has been started.

          We’ve seen what their preparations are. We should do likewise.

          Go and sin no more.

          • I know several LEO. One mounted patrol, couple jail gaurds, one homicide detective. the one thing the all have in common, all of them can tell you to the day how long they have till they retire and get their pension. doesnt matter if they have 20 yrs left or 20 days. Ask one, you’ll see.

            • INF.
              You are right. I could tell you down to the hour. In my last two years.
              We get burnt out seeing 95% the lowest of the low every FRIGGING day. Not one generation but the third and fourth.
              But I can tell you when we help people that are in the 5% It is a great feeling!

          • The federal government will be able to control the population if they’re brutal enough. Forgot that “gun behind every blade of grass” nonsense. Once they start killing the families of people who resist then resistance will die quickly. They could let the Russian troops who are already here kill the men who resist. Then let them do whatever they want with the women and children. Someone might want to resist but they don’t want their wife or teenage daughter taken to a rape camp.

            • @Barn Cat,

              I believe that there will be a certain level of brutality from the federal government too; however I also believe that the most effective weapon they will wield will be control of the distribution of food. According to Henry Kissinger – “Who controls the food supply controls the people; who controls the energy can control whole continents; who controls money can control the world.”

              People who are starving or are watching their children starve would not hesitate to turn in anyone who is hoarding food for a small portion of the hoard. They would turn on family members and spy on neighbors if it keeps themselves from starving. Brutal violence can also compel compliance but at far greater effort and with more blowback than just withholding food. Violence invites violence in response, and the danger is the subjugated population might see that their oppressors are human and can be defeated. The Russians murdered, raped, and tortured untold numbers of Afghans and Chechens with little effect on increasing their control of those countries. In fact, resistance increased, especially from those who lost family members or husbands or wives precisely because they had nothing further to lose at that point. Chechen women who lost husbands strapped on bombs and blew up apartments in Moscow and aircraft over Siberia. We have even seen this in Iraq where every act of aggression only encouraged more to take up arms against us.

              As always, those who have access to food are less vulnerable to these coercions, and the way to fight these thugs will be to force them to fight without their high-tech infrastructure and liquid-fueled vehicles. Knock out the power grid, destroy the fuel production and transportation infrastructure,and you have forced them to fight with the same weapons we have access to. When their technological superiority is neutralized, they are automatically at a disadvantage because we have a far greater numerical superiority than our oppressors.

            • You are dreaming if you think not resisting will help keep your women from being raped. Who in hell’s side are you on?

            • So whats the point BC?….you dont plan to resist?…why are you here?…sure it will be hell to resist and fight but will it be not so if you bend over and grab your ankles….remember God cursed the spies he sent into the promised land when they weakened their brothers with their “we cant win the enemy is too big” speech …we are up against a fearsome enemy but an enemy who vastly over estimates himself…get some backbone and help strengthen others in their resolve instead of tearing them down!

        • Moon…: You’re missing the point on voting. As the Federal government becomes more and more distant from the rest of America, state and local elections become all the more important. For instance: here in Florida we have had CCW since 1989, in fact we have more permit carries than any state, with over a million permits. Texas is distant second with around half a million. We also have the Castle Doctrine, and Stand Your Ground (No Retreat). This was due to state officials who listened to their local constituents that got these laws passed. While violent crime is fairly high here, we are the third largest state (tied) with a lot of new and transient folks, a bad guy has a much higher probability of being severely injured or killed than other states. By the way, as the third largest state, we also don’t pay any state income tax like most other states, which is also a function of the local politicians. So yes, voting CAN still be important.

          • @Gregory8

            You are right to an extent but for the wrong reasons. Local representatives are more responsive to their constituents because they are closer to them both physically, are more accessible to irate voters, and because they represent fewer voters to begin with. As you move up the food chain to the county and state levels of government, the elected officials become more distant and less responsive to their constituents. Another thing to consider is if you live in a workers paradise like Kalifornia or Illinois, your options to changing your laws become nonexistent. Tell me with a straight face that you are ever going to get the almost nonexistent gun laws of a state like ND in CA? There is a reason for this; as the population density increases you reach a critical mass of stupidity, an event horizon if you will, from which no law, regulation, or ordinance no matter how ill conceived, can resist. Rationality cannot penetrate this singularity, any attempt to challenge this critical mass of ignorant voters is doomed to failure. Resistance is futile. The only option remaining to an unfortunate living in such a locality is to relocate to a less densely populated region where the infection has not yet taken hold. This you see in states like Alaska, North Dakota, Montana, etc.

            The problem in my opinion, is that higher population densities always lead to more restrictive laws and regulations and loss of freedom. It does not reverse course once started. Everywhere on earth where there are high densities of humans has an inverse correlation of freedom. The population density rises, freedom disappears. The traditional antidote, frontiers, has disappeared. The increasing standoffs between freedom loving individuals and the ham-handed responses of authority come from this. When your back is against the wall with nowhere to run, you fight. Voting will not change this as the problem is ultimately one of demographics and lack of a safety valve for disaffected individuals. Until these factors change, armed conflict is inevitable.

            • Ted Cruz is “unresponsive” to the voters, as he is too high up? Rand Paul? Mike Lee? Rationality may not be able to pierce the singularity of the Kardashian/Yes we can-Yes we have no bananas chanting types, but *reality* can. In fact, this reality DID pierce leftist miasma that took over Poland (think Solidarity), E. Germany (think the army there refusing to pull the trigger on peaceful protesters in Leipzig, and finally the Soviet Union. And this after almost a century of complete repression in Russia. Similarly, freedom lovers came within a whisker of winning at Tienanmen Square. You also miss asking who, exactly, is going to pull the trigger for the TBTB? Many policemen sympathize with freedom lovers, and a great many more – despite all the headlines – do not want to take a human life unless under very defined circumstances. Same with the military. It is NOT irreversible, as noted above. We jus have to continue to get out and inform and educate.

          • There are too many automatic D’s in my area for my vote to ever matter in local elections. I vote every time, but the ones I vote for never win.

            • There will never be another free election until electronic ballot machines are eliminated. The excuse that paper ballots are costly and ineffecient is a load of crap.
              — Miss Dee Dee

        • And just to add insult to injury..

          Breibart just broke news that USDA has now solicited a purchase order for body armor….

          “The U.S. Department of Agriculture, Office of Inspector General,” seeks “Body Armor [that] is gender specific, lightweight, [having] trauma plate/pad (hard or soft), [and] concealable carrier.” The order includes “tactical vest, undergarment (white), identification patches, accessories (6 pouches), body armor carry bag, and professional measurements.”

          “All responsible and/or interested sources may submit their company name, point of contact, and telephone number.”


        • Possee, they may have more gun power (drones, etc.) but there are A LOT more of us than them. They were able to massacre the American Indians because of superior gun fire and because they had superior numbers… but in this show, they only got the super gun fire— WE got the superior numbers! (around 300 million of us!)

          • The Aztecs, a mighty empire that could field tens of thousands of warriors, was defeated by Cortez with his small band of Spaniards and their ally, smallpox. The Spaniards were always heavily outnumbered but their biological allies more than made up for any shortcoming in personnel.

            The elites who pull the strings behind all governments, desire far fewer of us useless eaters. When it appears that the patriots have the upper hand, they will use their trump card and unleash biological hell on us, literally opening their deadly vials full of plagues and pestilence upon us.

            I believe those who love liberty will ultimately prevail, but it might prove to be a Pyrrhic victory. If we are lucky, there will still be humans left when it is all over, but we will have lost so many people that it might prove impossible to save the science and technological progress we have made as a species. Such a victory might very well leave the survivors eking out a Dark Age existence for millenia in the shadows of skyscrapers built by a long gone race of magicians.

      3. Yea,
        What in the hell does the USDA need sub machine guns for???
        They going to raid my farm at 3:00am since i refuse to fill out their farm questionnaire?
        They better bring a tank because they will be met by a .308AR with a slide fire and a few drum mags, oh and dont get too close to them fuel drums in my yard, wouldnt want you to get blown up or something!

        • Amen Kula..

          And surely they have red dot,laser and all the trimmings..
          hell, we have iron sights…

          If you can’t group at 50 or 100 yards without a scope…forget it..

          Most of these govt.asshats can’t shoot worth a darn anyways.

          Surely political hacks with a college degree in the first place..

          Worry not..or as Alfred E Neuman stated

          What me worry?


          • “Most of these govt.asshats can’t shoot worth a darn anyways.”

            Those new “Alfred can’t miss” rifles and optical duos will change that, real quick.

          • Possee: At the end of the day IRON SIGHTS will rule.

            River Rat at the ready.

          • Of late in all these depictions of what local, state and fed agencies are acquiring, virtually every carbine you see has an Ecotech sight on it…
            Those puppies are expensive! I too wonder if they’re getting all the options with them… NV, MSIR…

            And I still have to laugh…cause we’ll still put them down like the mad dogs they are…. then WE get the toys.

            And you are so correct! If you can’t use iron sights at a hundred yards…
            You’re better suited to loading megs… 🙂

        • Mad Cows?

          • I thought that was the name of that group of gun control broads…oh, that was “moms demand action”…my bad.

        • “What in the hell does the USDA need sub machine guns for???”

          And the answer is…?


          Just as important and related-


          That is just the short list!
          Oblama has armed every government agency he can with OUR tax dollars! This is all part and parcel of that “National Security Force” he bragged about during his campaign season and so many stupid sheep clapped and giggled like schoolchildren. Idiots.
          We are surrounded by idiots.

          • Yea, the idiot factor is one of the things that keeps me at home and working on being independent. Its mind boggling.

          • Wait a minute. I’m a little late to these agencies buying up arms news stories, but is this merely a feeble attempt to disquise the real intent? : That these arms will be diverted to the militarized arm of the NSA rather than the FDA, the National Parks Service, or the Post Office? After all, this is what is done around the world- clandestine sale and tranfer of weapons.

        • Most likely they will be using them on family farms and those who sell raw dairy products. No way would they ever go into the national Forests and take on the drug cartels with their dope plantations.

      4. Before the government suspends The Constitution, it’s departments will be well armed.

        Or there are really some bad cows out there.

        Or there are some really bad farmers who are raising food for us to eat and managing all sorts of livestock and they are a threat to national security.

        This is so sad.

      5. Untrained

        A 40cal sub against my Noveski N6 7.62? yep I’m ascared as my granddaughter use to say.

      6. Spending more money we do not have for things we do not need.

      7. “2 shot burts” hey now, that’s getting personal…better than 2 second burt, I guess…

        • not by much.

      8. I guess they need these for mad cows…

        • … or mad sheep.

      9. Having worked in the mail room at USDA HQ when weapons have come in here’s my take. The solicitation is through the Office of The Inspector General which also includes the Protective Detail for the Secretary. At least up until now, 9mm MP5’s have been issued to them and it might very well be that they’re simply up-gunning to .40cal

      10. They arm, and we get disarmed. Amazing what they need to protect a corn patch from crows….

          • NO, thanks for putting up the link. Loved it. I’m an AK fan.

          • Lots of cool stuff in that video.

      11. when I was a young man I worked in the slaughter house ( Hogs) those USDA folks were as useless as tits on that Hog

        what are they going to do with those guns? shoot the shit? or the meat?

        this is getting foolish beyond comprehension

      12. Russian troops?

        • If anybody wants to see first-hand proof of the aftermath of a nuclear reactor disaster, here’s a wonderful video

          Good for victims, not so good for the perpetrators…

      13. Is the USDA becoming militarized to seize control of food distribution outlets/centers?

        “If you can control the food, you can control the people.” – Henry Kissinger

        Don’t waste time: stock up now, if you haven’t already, on nonperishable food. Keep it off-site, or, keep your supplies redundant.

        • Obama has already signed an executive order allowing for the federal government to seize all food production facilities.

          • …now all they need is the guns to…uh oh.

        • Anon

          Post STPT,TPTB will have control/FEMA camp collection points at food and fuel outlets, hospitals and any other place where people go for essentials as well as roadblock/checkpoints. This is SOP.

        • @Anon
          “Once you’ve got them by the balls, their hearts and minds will follow”-USMC

          So let say the ole rednek has ten AKs and thousands of rounds. Won’t do him a bit of good if he’s starving. If you got a family with kids…. I hate to say it but feeding your kids will sway your loyalties quite quickly. A person will swear allegiance to whatever flag is offered to keep their kids from hurting. You can’t blame them. This game has been played for centuries.

          This begs the question…As the liberal/conservative power grab goes on in our fine country, I’m wondering who has control of the “purse strings?” i.e. who’s going to feed our kids. If you’re a liberal pushing the entitlement agenda, it seems that you would do anything to keep the economy going such that you could fund your agenda. Yet it is failing. Monumentally. Interesting. So now the liberal yahoos agenda will inevitably fail. I think it is obvious the liberals do not have control over the “purse strings”.

          Clintoon era was the beginning of the big push for the libtard entitlement agenda. Big tax revenues and lot’s of funding for entitlements. The inevitable societal/economic breakdown has occurred starting back in ’08 and continues to this day. The libs jus’ haven’t gotten the news. They’re still fighting for a lost cause.

      14. This must be in response to all those horse-drawn-cart suicide bombings against USDA facilities by the Amish Liberation Front, which never happened.

        • We are the popular front for the free ejaculation of Palestine! We will kill your women and rape your cattle!

        • Too funny! Nicely done!

      15. oh noooz !!!

        a lot of conspiracy theorists are gonna be upset about this

        U.S. Air Force to Dismantle HAARP

        • ““We’re moving on to other ways of managing the ionosphere, which the HAARP was really designed to do,” he said. “To inject energy into the ionosphere to be able to actually control it. But that work has been completed.””

          Not so sure that’s a happy thin, just yet.

      16. Well Now I know where the 40 Cal’s are going.

        There is no reason for the USDA to have these guns. The Feds are trying to corner the market so we won’t have them.

        Too FRIGGING late we already do! FEDS. Ha-Ha beat you to it.

        You can have that 40Cal sub gun. I’ll stick with my PPS43, or my bull-pup 223. Lot more knock down power!


        • Just managed to score a Keltec KSG. 15 rounds of 12ga 00 buck, 15 dead jack-booted thugs.

          Best part is if you get the brass shotshell cases, every other component can be made at home. Even primers can be reused if you know how to do so. Black powder, cast buckshot, wads punched from felt and cardboard, the cases are indefinately reusable.

          • For up close and personal encounters, i.e. 10 to 100 feet. grab some Aguila 12ga buck 1.75 inch shells.

            Turn that keltec from 15 to 20 round capacity in a hurry.

        • Sgt: I sometimes carry my PPS43 when I garden you know those pesky little rabbits, (no I do not work for the USDA lol). Got some good old Mil. Surp. Ammo quit hot I may add.

          River Rat at the ready.

        • Actually post 1986 you can’t have that particular sub machine gun.

      17. Your right on the money with that one sarge. (:

      18. Why would the USDA need machine guns? Food shortage looming. Severe droughts. Food rationing. Just a guess.

      19. whut the for thatt thingy godzilwa , cigaretts charrcoal literfliud with fork an nife hot timps an rayne . 22lr ammoe scared to fined hear.stooked up on sum ammoe two mysevf.munny hard two com bye welfair heps no ned two werk.hotdags goode gardins harrd werk. unnions an tatters goode frriyed wifh frriyed bolonie two.luve theis sitte lots of enfo herre.all sew the piggs ned chikin feede watremelin an wermd

        • Sexy.

          KySSG . . . out.

        • That hurt my head just reading that !

          Semper Fi 8541

      20. They need a whole lot more than that. They can’t hit shit in front of them. We practice and mean it. Ya know, we do not plan on missing; if we do, another shot will be needed.

        • “If at first you don’t succeed, reload!”

      21. This is a crock of shit. The Feds keep arming up and expect the rest of us to follow ridiculous limits and BS restrictions?


        The only magazine limits I worry about is how many I can carry at one time.

        Just remember, folks . . . gun control means never having to say I missed you.


        KySSG . . . out.

      22. Another reason why this world is ready to go into some serious death spasms:

        Poor Poland, always caught in between the world wars and seems like every other war in Europe. IF Poland goes ahead with a type of missile defense called Tarcza Polski or shield of Poland, it would put Russia in a very critical predicament. Russia’s defense is that they can retailiate against any first strike nuclear hit. Take that away even somewhat with a massive missile shield and this makes a first strike by Russia that much more likely.

        This article talks about taking away Russia’s claws by having these missile sheilds. For the sake of the human civilization they better be wrong because in the Russia doctrine, and China’s now also, IF national security is threatened enough a first nuclear strike is not only possible, but LIKELY.

        • Silver hasn’t been “erased” from the hospital in my town. The wound center uses silver powder and silver-impregnated dressings for deep wounds that are hard to heal. I have been treated with silver at the hospital twice a week for a while. Silver is the only medication that has been used.

          The doctor said that honey is also good for wounds, but the establishment only allows her to use “special” expensive honey from one company. If allowed, she would use local honey.

          Using iron to cook in and silver to eat and drink with would help a lot of people.

        • Buck: Excellent thank you…


      23. This is what I am talking about with the U.S. f’ing with China and Russia BOTH. A paragraph from ABC news with the tension going on with China:


        Wagging his finger, Hagel told Chinese Defense Minister Chang Wanquan that China doesn’t have the right to unilaterally establish an air defense zone over disputed islands in the East China Sea with no consultation. In turn, Wanquan told Hagel that China is prepared to use its military if needed to safeguard its territory.


        China prepared to use its military if needed to safeguard it territory. China means it and has the resources to do so. China and Russia are forming an alliance with other countries, an eastern coalition. WW3 will resemble WW1, where there will be no clear winner. The difference is that WW1 was recoverable, WW3 will end human civilization as we know it. Maybe by the year 3000 it MIGHT be back.

        • Perhaps the U.S. should kick their globalist masters to the curb, for self-preservation. Those greedy fucks are going to get us all killed…and some Chinese, and Russians, and…

      24. Basically, what they are doing right now, is stealing all the wealth they can steal and when TSHTF, they plan on being the only ones surviving. Rob us all first, after that, they don’t care what happens to us. When we run out of money, they’ll probably grind us up for dog food to sell to China so they can make payroll. It’s really about public sector survival. It’s so obvious.

      25. I already read this, while you guys were all dry-humping Congressman Joe Garcia for scratching his ear and biting a hang-nail…

        • LMFAO! +1

        • ha; thumbs up for that one

      26. The militarization of agencies under the direct control of the executive branch is being done because the president is not authorized to order the military to attack US citizens. By arming the likes of NOAA and the the USDA, he can simply create his own army to be used to attack US citizens – simple as that.

        • Arm.
          Very good point. Obullshit said he wanted a civilian army just as big and just as well armed as our Military.
          Cut the US military and arm NOAA USDA POST OFFICE ECT. you could have that army.
          Just think if they do fire on the public how many of the US Military will say Enough is Enough and starts to fight on our side. I believe in weeks there will be a bunch of ornaments hanging from trees all over this country.

      27. It’s obvious that the government is planning on widespread unrest. The question is, what are they planning on doing that will cause it and when? As passive as the American sheeple are, their is surely a plan in the works for something so terrible that they will need all that firepower.

        • Communist Proverbs

          A. Political power comes from the barrel of a gun

          B. The rat struggles hardest when it realizes that it is in the trap.

          Every Marxist revolution is almost always followed by a second “counter revolution”.

          I believe that some of us “rats” are beginning to see the trap and Barry is preparing to crush the counter revolution by buying .40 S&W caliber political power machines.

          • Lucky for us we are NOT un armed, there will be hell to pay for their arrogance

          • Don’t forget C. Food is a weapon. I forget which commie said it,but I’m sure The Mocha Messiah can recall.

        • Ishimo,

          Alien invasion… most reported to be in excess of 10′ tall…giants…

          I believe I read that on BIN…. so it must be true…


          • That settles it. If you read it on the internet it has to be true. Is there an alien equivalent to Zombie Thugs in 308?

        • Having recently attended a session at USDA relating to site security and managing active shooter situations, I surmise that the “official” purpose is most likely for those in OIG should they need to respond to a situation based on the briefing I heard.

        • TM
          Leg shots work well also. Even if you don’t puncture the armor you put them on there ass!

        • Body armor …Big deal. Theres ways around that.

      28. I wonder which congressman’s son is a salesperson for that gun company? We know its not Reid’s son’ he’s helping the Chinese. Not Biden’s son, he helping the Ukrainians. Not Jackson’s son, he gets $8600.00 a month for a mood disorder.

      29. Hey Moon.

        You said,

        Give me a break; go vote if it makes you feel good. I will wait for it to collapse under it’s own weight, helping it along where I can and standing by to fight them when they reveal their violent and evil intentions openly.


        That’s what I’m talking about.

      30. De-Dollarization: Russia Is On The Verge Of Dealing A Massive Blow To The Petrodollar

        From the Russian press…”on April 24th the government organized a special meeting dedicated to finding a solution for getting rid of the US dollar in Russian export operations.”

        “The struggle over Ukraine has caused Russia to completely reevaluate the financial relationship that it has with the United States. If it starts trading a lot of oil and natural gas for currencies other than the U.S. dollar, that will be a massive blow for the petrodollar, and it could end up dramatically changing the global economic landscape.”

        “Russia is not just a small player when it comes to trading oil and natural gas. The truth is that Russia is the largest exporter of natural gas and the second largest exporter of oil in the world.

        If Russia starts asking for payment in currencies other than the U.S. dollar, that will essentially end the monopoly of the petrodollar.

        In order to do this, Russia will need trading partners willing to go along. In the article quoted above, the Voice of Russia listed Iran and China as two nations that would potentially be willing to make the switch…”

        “So why is the petrodollar so important?
        Well, it creates a tremendous amount of demand for the U.S. dollar all over the globe. Since everyone has needed it to trade with one another, that has created an endless global appetite for the currency.

        That has kept the value of the dollar artificially high, and it has enabled us to import trillions of dollars of super cheap products from other countries. If other nations stopped using the dollar to trade with one another, the value of the dollar would plummet dramatically…”

        Moscow Says Massive “Holy Grail” Gas Deal With China Is 98% Ready
        “The Hong Kong publication reports that China and Russia hope to sign a massive deal for natural gas supply when their leaders meet in a regional summit in Shanghai next week.”

        Russia Dumps 20% Of Its Treasury Holdings As Mystery “Belgium” Buyer Adds Another Whopping $40 Billion

        “Russia dumped a record $26 billion, or some 20% of all of its holdings, bringing its post-March total to just over $100 billion.”

        “Belgium” because it is quite clear that it is not the country of Begium who is engaging in this unprecedented buying spree of US paper, but some account acting through Belgian custody.”

        This mystery buyer has quietly and quite rapidly become the largest holder of U.S. Treasury holdings. With $40 billion additional purchases in Marh, “Belgium” now has $381 billion in treasury holdings.

      31. Folks we might be looking at this all wrong!
        They say that they are giving the weapons to the USDA, USP, Forest Ser., ECT.

        Has anyone ever seen the weapons delivered to them?
        I have two good friends that work for USP. They have seen one weapons or AMMO.

        What I’m getting at is they say one thing and do another. Another Gun Runner to the cartels. MS13, Latin Kings, Gangster Disciple, other gangs.



        • I think this is right. Goovers have blank checks so are just buying all kinds of crap randomly. Like you say, much of it probably “disappears”. Gooberment prints debt and spends it on waste (well, theft, perhaps if the items are “lost”).
          BTW, I’ve seem some videos on how USDA raids independent farms. I remember one coupe was raising sheep or something and gooberment said they weren’t allowed to for some reason or the other and came in an armed raid and took the animals.

        • I’ve seen it because I’ve signed for it when it was delivered to the HQ complex. Simply put, sidearms and smg’s have been what I’ve signed for in times past. Usually, the items are immediately picked up by someone from OIG (USDA) and used for the protective details and other agents.

        • Right now the I-DHS (dept of human services) is sending out notices for health care providers…to establish mandated reporting as well as the scope of what needs reporting…

          Public Act 098-0063

          …to learn more, please visit our website:


          • And you are still living in Illinois because…?
            Another slice of the bologna gone! When my husband had terrible anxiety attacks last year because his defibrillator kept going off to restart his heart, he would have suffers the confiscation of all his fireams. WRONG!

            • Tex:
              I still live in Illinois because of my folks (85/83 Years old) they need help. When they are gone so am I.
              Reason number 2. Someone needs to be a thorn in the side of Big Brother! I am and can be the biggest pain in the ASS you can imagine.

              • Tex…Sarge…I did my undergrad in Texas and some grad studies…am still here for my kids…IL has a way also, of anchoring people, whether they are union or not…is frustrating, to say the least….but my dreams are “deep in the heart of Texas!” and the Blue Bonnet is my favorite flower…but I hope to escape soon.

        • Dam good point Dale
          this could all be Psy -ops misdirection and complete BS just to scare the right people

      32. I want one – hope they deploy them in my AO. Battlefield pickups are wonderful (and cheap)

        • Battlefield pick ups will become a thing of the past with RFD technology. Leave the weapons lay. Track them unknowingly. When they group up plant a JDAM on that spot.

          • Kevin2
            If you have use to a Micro Wave after TSHTF. Put the gun in the oven and run it for about 3 to 5 sec. it will burn out the chip.

            • Interesting.

              You learn something new every day.

      33. Had a long conversation last night with a USMC career guy. He says there is no difference between Capitalism and Communism. Says he would go where ever he is sent and fight who ever the government wants him to. He has no problem fighting to install a Communist regime or any other type of government. Makes no difference to him. He was foreign born. We’re doomed.

        • P.T.
          You said he was foreign born? If you know any other USMC I would talk to them and see if they can do something about it.
          Slobs like this are a disgrace to the USMC! Anyone that would violate the Constitution should not be in the Services or a Cop.
          There I said it. If you are not for the Constitution GET THE HELL OUT!!!!

          • Once again. Show me the language in the Constitution where the US is to send its Military to a foreign shore to establish an economic system to the liking of international business interests? If anything its UnConstitutional to do so.

        • Since when did the mission of the US Military be to promote any economic system? North Koreas manufacturing closed not one factory in the US.You can’t say the same for South Korea. Industry along with its associated good jobs fled the US post USSR collapse as they no longer feared foreign nationalization.

          Who gives a rats ass if several business interests control the wealth with fascism or the government controls it under communism in a foreign land. Establishing a system that business likes overseas is not the job of the US Military. Two time recipient of the Medal of Honor Major General Smedley Butler wrote the book, “War Is A Racket”. He was saddened that when reflecting upon his distinguished career he was nothing more than a “Bully Boy For Wall Street” in his words.

        • Poon Tang

          “Says he would go where ever he is sent and fight who ever the government wants him to”

          You can take this to the bank. This includes the American People if ordered to do so.

      34. Wow, I would think everyone here would be in DC… Guess it was raining too hard for you to go. Lot of talk about doing stuff, though. I only see around 100 people here in DC.

      35. Off topic – alert for EU preppers.

        Prepping now is turning into a bit of a game. We preppers are the mice and the paper pushers at EU HQ is the big mean ‘ol Tom cat.

        Not content with putting legislation in the works to prevent the retail of many heirloom seeds, they are now going after our attempts to be independent of the energy grid.

        This may look on the surface like a good thing – imposing import tariffs on solar panels from China, BUT we don’t manufacture a whole lot of the things. In real terms it means that if you have been saving for a solar panel purchase, it’d be best to make your purchase sooner rather than later BEFORE prices to the ordinary run of the mill consumer shoot through the roof.

        There’s a pattern emerging where useful items for preppers are being made either illegal or too expensive to purchase for all but the elite.

        Us mice will do just fine if we can only stay a couple of steps ahead of that big ol tom cat ; )

      36. So fucking what …..are they using them on you …who cares ……you tinfoil hat nutjobs are getting tiresome !!
        All the articles throughout the years and what’s happened ….you all are still here ….get off the DOOMTUBE !!

        • Rich99.

          You’re still here. Is your purpose to change our minds? Are you afraid of us or simply you firmly agree with the present form of government. This is SHTF. Not Trolls Are Us. I don’t know if you think this is a game but the majority seem to take it serious. So I don’t understand what you have to prove.

          All those years have not changed our minds.

        • But it’s fun irritating you…

          • Please irritate away and enjoy your fun.

      37. h t t p://

        ) “Food resource facilities” means plants, machinery, vehicles (including on farm), and other facilities required for the production, processing, distribution, and storage (including cold storage) of food resources, and for the domestic distribution of farm equipment and fertilizer (excluding transportation thereof).

      38. They won’t be inspecting my beef.

        Not for resale…

      39. Can people write to amnesty international and pray for this lady please?

        I can’t help think but for the Grace of God so many of the mothers here could be in such a desperate situation. Please ask your Churches to include this woman & her children in their prayers this Sunday, and for mercy for all the other victims of religious persecution everywhere.

        This Lady’s “crime” is to be a christian woman married to a christian man, and to refuse to renounce her faith. For this once she has given birth she will be given 100 lashes, and when the child she carries in her belly today is two years old she will be executed. In the meantime her two year old is constantly sick as prison is not a healthy environment for an infant and her wheelchair bound husband is struggling with his disabilities. She has been denied medical care for her difficult pregnancy.

        I just feel that if we do not take a stand at these extremist atrocities taking place overseas, sooner or later it will arrive on our own doorstep. The face of wicked totalitarianism takes many forms yet its relentless march is a global one.

        • Lonelonemum: Just sent one up for this sister and all who are being pusecuted…


          • ….persacuted….pursecuted….persicuted….I can’t spell today….

        • May God’s Grace and Strength and Mercy sustained this family. May the Lord Jesus use this family’s testimony to the Glory of God.

      40. Here is your choice, for those of you who still believe in voting; Judeocrats or Judeopublicans! Sorry, but that’s about all that is left! They are all whores if they are not Dual citizens, which is to say that they are all Traitors if they are not Israelies! If they are Israelie, they are simply trying to carry out the policy of Israel, which is ultimately the control of planet Earth! They are not Traitors, they are simply the enemy, Jews, not Americans but its OK if you poor delusional Hageeites do not see this for you will see this in time! So many Americans, Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh, ETC and many others have warned us and it has come to nothing but it will come to something in the future for the Enemy has an unpleasant future for us very soon!! I weep for my beloved countrymen but accept that the future must happen before my countrymen will fully awaken!!

      41. Still waiting for them to purchase giant robots like the ones in Pacific Rim.

        Seriously can this get any more ridiculous at this point?

      42. hey, I like all these cool firearms and vehicals these groups are getting. some of them are gonna great in my collection..

      43. They only other agency that needed an armed force less than the USDA is NOAA.

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