FBI Spoil Their Own Capitol Terror Plot to Sow Fear: “There Was Never A Danger to the Public”

by | Jan 16, 2015 | Conspiracy Fact and Theory, Headline News | 136 comments

Do you LOVE America?



    So, if anyone is keeping score, in a few short days we have seen a sensational and brutal terror attack in Paris, followed by an alleged plot filled with intrigue to poison Speaker of the House John Boehner, and now a thwarted effort to wage a full on jihadi assault against the U.S. Capitol with machine guns.

    The only problem with this is that at least half of it is fiction.

    NBC News reported:

    An Ohio man who allegedly wanted to set up an ISIS cell in the U.S. was arrested Wednesday and accused of planning to attack the U.S. Capitol. But U.S. officials told NBC News the man was dealing with a government informer working undercover the entire time and was never in a position to carry out his plan.

    Christopher Lee Cornell, 20, of Green Township, near Cincinnati, was arrested after he bought two M-15 semi-automatic rifles and about 600 rounds of ammunition as the undercover operative watched, according to an FBI affidavit.

    Cornell’s father, John Cornell, said the family was blindsided by the arrest.

    “He never showed any signs of violence or anything,” John Cornell said of his son.

    Classic drama to sow fear among the public, and revive support for the surveillance state in the post-Snowden world where many are disillusioned and everyone knows the government is spying on their phone calls and Internet activity.

    Activist Post noted:

    The FBI is at it again. Creating fake terror plots to justify their existence. And this plot hits on all the themes one would expect from a good fake terror plot.

    The FBI initially found a patsy by trolling Twitter for support of ISIS. That’s exciting because finding someone retarded enough to admit support for murderers is really difficult. Then they sent an in-house jihadist to team up with the patsy to plan a grand terror attack on the nation’s Capitol. Heroically, the moment the 20-year-old patsy said he would “go forward with violent jihad” the FBI steps in and declares a victory in the war on terror.

    Now, thanks to the media, new found support for surveillance is again being drummed up in Europe and at home. As Melissa Melton pointed out, former NSA and CIA director Michael Hayden was playing up the value of metadata the day after the Hebdo Charlie attacks:

    You know, I was talking to you guys about 12 months ago, about these massive amounts of metadata that NSA held in storage. That metadata doesn’t look all that scary this morning and I wouldn’t be surprised if the French services pick up cell phones associated with the attack and ask the Americans, ‘where have you seen these phones active globally?’.

    And there’s plenty more support for spying in the works at the moment, and in the immediate future.

    Since 9/11, the FBI has admittedly set-up phony terror plots again and again, only to bust them in sting operations.

    RT reported in 2011:

    A recent report put together by Mother Jones and the Investigative Reporting Program at the University of California-Berkley analyses some striking statistics about the role of FBI informants in terrorism cases that the Bureau has targeted in the decade since the September 11 attacks.

    The report reveals that the FBI regularly infiltrates communities where they suspect terrorist-minded individuals to be engaging with others. Regardless of their intentions, agents are sent in to converse within the community, find suspects that could potentially carry out “lone wolf” attacks and then, more or less, encourage them to do so. By providing weaponry, funds and a plan, FBI-directed agents will encourage otherwise-unwilling participants to plot out terrorist attacks, only to bust them before any events fully materialize.

    The FBI has used those informants to set-up and thus shut-down several of the more high profile would-be attacks in recent years. The report reveals that the Washington DC Metro bombing plot, the New York City subway plot, the attempt to blow up Chicago’s Sears Tower and dozens more were all orchestrated by FBI agents. In fact, reads the report, only three of the more well-known terror plots of the last decade weren’t orchestrated by FBI-involved agents.

    The report reveals that in many of the stings, important meetings between informants and the unknowing participants are left purposely unrecorded, as to avoid any entrapment charges that could cause the case to be dismissed.

    “The problem with the cases we’re talking about is that defendants would not have done anything if not kicked in the ass by government agents,” Martin Stolar tells Mother Jones.

    As Michael Krieger noted, the FBI is creating these problems – paper tigers:

    Turns out the FBI is better at radicalizing Muslims to violence than any genuine terror network on planet earth.

    Nearly every major post-9/11 terrorism-related prosecution has involved a sting operation, at the center of which is a government informant. In these cases, the informants — who work for money or are seeking leniency on criminal charges of their own — have crossed the line from merely observing potential criminal behavior to encouraging and assisting people to participate in plots that are largely scripted by the FBI itself.

    Under the FBI’s guiding hand, the informants provide the weapons, suggest the targets and even initiate the inflammatory political rhetoric that later elevates the charges to the level of terrorism.

    Though they are admittedly plots that never posed real danger to the public, the purpose is to grab headlines, make terrorism look rampant, and cast the feds, again and again, as the saviors.

    Keeping us safe with more safety and fewer liberties. Never mind the strong armed tactics used in many of these cases of provoking the allegedly radicalized suspects into action, often giving them weapons, cash and dangerous ideas. As for the other plots, believe what you read in the papers and see on TV, I guess. This one, however, is pure spectacle.


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      1. Really? No way that the ZOG international is capable of doing crimes against humanity.

        • The devil is the father of lies, but he neglected to patent the idea, and the business now suffers from competition.

          Josh Billings
          (1818 – 1885) humorist

          Same shit, new day.

          • Anyone ever own an Audi before? Are they a long lasting high mileage car like a honda accord? Are they one of those expensive hard to work on foreign cars? I am looking at a Audi Allroad Quattro….thanks.

            Oh yeah….none of the truly awake here are actually surprised at this story are they?

            • BJ
              A friend of mine had one. Loved it until it broke down. Something minor like a water pump or something. Pump cost him almost $600.00 and it took forever to get. I rode in it several times great vehicle. You have to take it to the dealer to fix the cotton picker. You just can’t take it to the locale guy to work on them. Good luck.

              • BJ,as Sarge said parts expensive and hate working on the all wheel drives,rather work on vehicle with transfer case ect.Hell,hate the inverse mounted front wheel drive,basic jobs like a water pump a bitch if you have big hands.I am not sure but they may have the motor you lose timing belt you eat the head,old vehicles timing chain goes your car just dies till you replace chain,obviously check the year and reliability,personally would avoid like the plague but try except machine work/transmission rebuilds to do all my own work,and I do at least pull tranny/motor and take to shop/replace with rebuild.

                • Thanks WD, Looking at Subaru’s on cars.com all over Communois and thinking about going and looking at some tomorrow. I was first looking to get another Accord….love Honda Accords. But finding one that I think is right for the money just wasn’t working out after three weeks of looking. So now I started looking at other stuff. I like the Legacy’s and Outback’s.

                • Timing belts have been designed out of many of the Hondas and Toyotas. Do some online research.

                  • The FBI recently did this same thing in Portland Oregon. They got a mentally challenged kid to try to detonate a dummy bomb (provided by the FBI) at a Christmas tree lighting ceremony in downtown.

                    A commenter on yahoo seemed to have the perfect solution. If ever you are approached by somebody, out of the blue, who tries to get you involved in an illegal act, immediately report them to your local police and/or the local FBI. Who knows, maybe the local police might want to initiate a “sting” of their own…wouldn’t THAT be funny?

                    After people start regularly thwarting these so-called “stings” the FBI will stop doing them, because they are not working and not cost effective.

                    Beat them at their own game.

                    • I once lived in an apartment complex where one apt was being watched for drug activity, based on a wrong informant tip. I called 911 and reported two guys sitting in a car, with binoculars, appearing to case the place. I claimed I was in fear for my safety…

                      As I listened on my handy police scanner, they radioed the idiots sitting right out in the open, and told them the jig was up and they moved. If anyone cares, the rule is, police surveillance cannot scare the public, and when it does, they can be made to stop.

                      There was no drugs in that apartment. Some local druggie was trying to indicate someone other than hos own source—so he just picked one. The wrong one.

              • Oh Sarge,saw American Sniper yesterday also,will admit,a dvd copy online and streamed it.I will buy a copy when on sale as willing to support good movies,and this was a good movie.Was not pro war,in fact probably antiwar but yet showed the determination of people to help/save friends in tough times.It did show something we do not unless experienced see a lot in the way family is affected by war and having loved ones in combat.

                • WD, will get the book first before seeing the movie. Just like I did prior to the Wahlberg film. Book much better.

                  • I didn’t until today even knew he wrote a book,after all he had seen shame he died while trying to help out other vets,just another of the horrible and sad casualties of war,I will read the book but always wonder as with a movie when co- authored am I getting the real and whole story.

                    • I often wondered if that wasn’t an mkultra assassination. No way that should’ve happened. I’ve always thought something smelled bad about the incident.

                    • WD,
                      Your on the right track

                  • Ok, it appears that Holder “the Horrible” has finally accomplished something positive in his hollow tenure as AG. He has advised states that they shouldn’t impound large amounts of cash from traffic stops and keep them even though there are no formal charges of wrong doing. Pretty much what is going on in Tennesee by Viper teams. Reminds me of the old Willey Nelson Song… “I was a Highwayman along the coach road I did ride, badge and pistol by my side, many a maiden lost their baubles to my trade, many a soldier shed his life’s blood on my blade, the bastards hung me in the spring of twenty-five, but I am still alive……Ain’t quite exactly how the verses go but you can get the picture. Up end of it all it is about the only good this black bastard did in his whole tenure as AG. And that ain’t sayin much, the worthless POS.

                    • My first response is WHY?

                      Why did one of the most anti-constitution, anti-rights attorney generals in history do this? Maybe the law is of no consequence since we became subjugated to the U.N. treaties. I think I remember a clause it a treaty about confiscations off assets, I just can’t find it.

                      I just don’t believe Holder just no decided to do the right thing, on his way out the door…there has to be more to it.

              • BJ..you will curse the day that you bought that inferior POS…it is a money drain.
                If you want German at an affordable price..VW Jetta…you will be glad you did.

            • Audi – my daughter bought one last year. They run 300-500 dollars a year in basic maintenance not under warranty.

              • I had an Audi once…had to replace the fuel injectors three times in 6 months. Cleaning them made no difference. It’s costly and not a real simple job to do in your garage. I trashed that POS.

            • BJ
              i suggest you check out the AWD Impreza, we bought one and love it! more than i bargained for, gas MPG exceeds there specs and handling exceeded mine! price not to bad by standard, around $23,000.00 new

            • I had a coworker that owned an Audi ….it left the company parking lot about once every other month….to the tune of $2,000. To get it back from the dealer. Unless you can fix that thing yourself ….I would find another ride.
              Standing by in Montgomery County Texas

              • The old joke about a Jaguar was that you had to add 20K to the price to pay for the Ford you had to buy so you had something to drive while the Jag was in the shop.

            • BJ, I would take that Honda over an Audi. Your Honda is more reliable and less expensive to work on. One of my neighbors has a 2002 Accord with 280000 miles on it. Engine just seized up in it 2 days ago and he’s replacing the engine with a used engine with only 90000 miles on it. Replaced the transmission 2 years ago. He’s going to keep rolling it.

              • Honda burnt up and I don’t want car payments again, I want to save everything I can for land with cash so I can finance building a home, So looking for used.

            • Check consumer reports….

              .I have a little German car that had 35k miles when I got it…and when I got it, it was 10 years old, now its 16….find a local car shop that works on the imports and talk to them…

          • OMG Mac, you just don’t get it. Any threat, real or perceived, to either the media or the elite politicians is infinitely more important than any towards the general public. How can you not see that? (sarcasm off)


          • Hey I want to know more about that plot to posion Speaker Beohner. Who was the idiot that foiled that plot. Yeah NSA I really said it. Trekker Out

        • You should all know gun knife and club disarm techniques and practice them until you know them by heart.

          I don’t understand why you people constantly ignore and belittle martial arts training. Is it because you know you are fat and would get your ass kicked?

          • Like hey there AE, Dose you do Kung foo fighting?

          • Maybe we don’t all ignore it or belittle it…maybe some of us may have actually had some training at one point…did you think of that? Maybe we just don’t feel the need to BRAG.

        • I got an xbox 360 for Christmas. I hate to say it but the games are so much fun I don’t really care if the country goes to hell. bwahahahahaha sheeple.

          • And they’ll come up behind you while you are engrossed playing your stupid childish games and slit your throat or simplified, send a round through the back of your head and the rest of us won’t fucking care. Bwahhhaaaaa you little shit.

            • addendum-stain

          • AE,
            Wife, I and kids love Krav Maga. Challenge is getting the kids to NOT use real knives for practice at home. I pity an armed cop or whom ever coming up behind this gang 🙂

            • ditto in my household, made the mistake of sneaking up on my 9 year old and received a nice pointy elbow to the solar plexis, that actually took my wind and im well built LOL

      2. OK, Who is More Believable?? RE: The Price of OIL.

        This Guy: Henry Adolf- Oil Tycoon Says Price Will Rise In 2015: “Could Shoot Right Back To $100 Per Barrel” Jan 4th 2015 SHTF Pan Article.


        This Guy: ‘Never Going To See $ 100’ Oil Again Says Saudi Prince. Jan 15th, 2015
        The Saudis understand that the market is been flooded with oil and that fifty dollar oil will force at least some of that flood to be stemmed. It will hurt but losing massive market share will actually hurt just as much and that will be difficult to recover. This way they can make adjustment and plausibly ride it out for a couple of more years.

        After that they can see were to go from there. If supply is heavily curtailed some price strengthening will be safe. I just think that the fracking risk is way larger than all the number crunchers understand. all those rigs will need to keep working and that means slashing the fat out of the whole supply chain. It would not surprise me to discover that fracking is economic at $30.00 per barrel in the best fields.

        We are now going to seriously find out. A lot of capital will be crushed however..

        ‘Never Going To See $ 100’ Oil Again Says Saudi Prince As Goldman Sachs Cuts Oil Price Forecast For 2015

        Link: http://globalwarming-arclein.blogspot.ca/2015/01/never-going-to-see-100-oil-again-says.html

        Who is More Believable?? T.Boon Pickings and Henry Adolf? Or The Saudi Prince?? I put my Chips on the Saudi Prince. Its the Golden Rule. The Ruler Owns the $4 Barrel of Unlimited Oil.

        • WWTI,

          Most Chimpanzees have more intelligence than you do. You don’t know anything about oil, so stop commenting about it.

        • How’s that old saying go. “What goes down will go up” I guess that saying only pertains to oil. WWTI for once I would like to agree with you. Sorry I just can’t do it. But I will give you a green thumb just because I like your thinking. Trekker Out.

        • I find it amazing that sucking every available penny out of the people is a good thing, while the elites who lose a few bucks on devalued stocks is so devastating…I guess what really matters, is WHOSE POCKETS GET PICKED CLEAN.

      3. I feel safer already!In theory,the fibs knew about the Boston marathon bombers,the russians told us,yet,they accomplished their goals.I wonder if they did what fdr did knowing the japanese would attack the US but let it happen anyhow.Any agency whose headquarters is named after hoover really needs to question themselves.

        • They suck just like a hoover

          • So many possible puns…

            I pass.

            • They are like a fan…they suck and blow simultaneously.

              A little more,same day.


          • J.Edgar ?

          • Kulafarmer, legend has it that Hoover REALLY was a sucker. Whether he was or not, he was definitely one of the most dangerous people to ever hold any position of power in the US government. He had files on EVERYONE in DC, including key members of Congress, members of the Cabinet, even on every President he served under. It’s no wonder he got his way for so long in DC.

            • …and they STILL have files on everyone in DC and of any importance, including all of their family and extended family.


            • Now the NSA has that and more.

        • It wasnt too long ago when the FBI propped up some mentally challenged kid to bomb a bridge.
          Wasnt that in Ohio as well ?

        • Warchild, the FBI was behind Ruby Ridge, Waco, OKC bombing, the bombing at WTC in 93′, TWA Flight 800, 9/11, etc. We’ll never know how many innocent people total have died at their hands since their inception. Considering their attitude toward the people, no FBI agent could tell me a damned thing. They can go f#$% off.

        • Purely by coincidence, the aircraft carriers were at sea that day.

      4. A large group of ISIS soldiers in Iraq are moving down a road when they hear a Voice call from behind a sand dune: “One US Marine is better than ten ISIS”.

        The ISIS commander quickly orders 10 of his best men over the dune where a gun-battle breaks out and continues for a few minutes, then silence. The voice once again calls out: “One US Marine is better than one hundred ISIS.”

        Furious, the ISIS commander sends his next best 100 troops over the dune and instantly a huge gun fight commences. After 10 minutes of battle, again

        The Marine calls out again: “One US Marine is better than one thousand ISIS.” The enraged ISIS commander musters 1000 fighters and sends them to the other side of the dune. Rifle fire, machine guns, grenades, rockets and Cannon fire ring out as a terrible battle is fought …. Then silence.

        Eventually one badly wounded ISIS fighter crawls back over the dune and with his dying words tells his commander, “Don’t send any more men……it’s a
        trap. There’s two of them.

        • Eppe
          Great joke I Laughed My Ass Off! But oh so TRUE!

          • They are HUMANS you fucking psycho. Amerikkka created ISIS to destabilize Syria. Don’t you idiots get that? They create the problems and the solutions.

            • Acid; that was what I was trying to convey. All the alphabet organizations seem to becoming the same.
              Thanks for your aim to not capitalize everything. As for ‘old people’, I am 55, still think like I’m 20, but realize I’m not. Sux, I can tell ya. I do enjoy your apperal posts, and hope you do well in life…

              • AE, your just like a turd. Only thing you can do is flush it.

                • PO’d Patriot, acid/eisenturd can go FLUSH himself! [SARCASM]

            • Ass’ed Itch I see your well, because what you were spewing out of your ass the other day, is now coming out of your mouth. Trekker Out

        • Eppe, moral of the story: Never trust a Jewish marine.


        • True story, but it actually happened to Bigfoot Wallace, an early Texas Ranger, before the Civil War.

        • Eppe, one of your best yet. keep that humor coming. You really need to make a comeback.

          • My all-time favorite eppe joke is still the atheist in the woods.

            …And the bear dropped his right paw, brought both paws together, bowed his head and spoke:

            “Lord bless this food, which I am about to receive from thy bounty through Christ our Lord, Amen.”

            • That was a riot….still laughing at that one!

      5. “agents are sent in to converse within the community, find suspects that could potentially carry out “lone wolf” attacks and then, more or less, encourage them to do so”

        Anyone here been approached? Surprised not, with some of the comments/posts.

        Hard to believe they don’t realize their cover has been compromised. Or do they?

        They should be afraid, very afraid.

        (mom, that was not a slam (A21))

      6. And our Tax Dollars pay the Salaries of these Shills to create false flags. Had enough of this Crappola Shinola?

        • who wooda,
          Hey you sure stirred the red thumbs up! just goes to show how many Schills are on this site monitoring us good folks! YUP we have had enough of this BS time to get our country back and end the scumbags terms in office and TRY to find some decent people to fill there vacancies!! whoops!! did i say something to piss the scums OFF ?? i guess we will see how reds show up on this comment!!

          • apache- what it says is these red thumbs are so dumbed down, all the best they can do is eppe IQ 45 for their site hero, we are in deep deep shit in this country. We are only as strong as our weakest link. In fact the missing link keeps posting jokes for the dumbed down 97% morons in this country cause thats all they can absorb in their nutshells. If you post and real fact on any issues, in fails to sink into their rock pile for brains. Another reason why I stockpile lots of ammo. They will be the first to beg then demand food even though their EBT cards are null and void.

            • You sure assume alot, wwti, on IQ numbers.
              Never said I was a site hero, just been doing this for a few years. You are the one who takes what one says, and wraps it into what you want to protray. I called 3 truces with you, and yet you broke each. Liar is that defination.
              Death to Liars, is a phrase you quote often. Does that apply to yourself?
              You seem to think alot of yourself…

            • Wanna hear a joke? A logical, polite, non personal argument from you. Not funny? We don’t think so either, cuz it never happens when you’re involved. Go back to your cave, Neanderthal, I can only take so much stupid per day. And take your ego which is suffering from hyperinflation with you. I’m not feeling very Christian today 🙂

        • The perfect bureaucrat everywhere is the man who manages to make no decisions and escape all responsibility.

          Brooks Atkinson
          (1894 – 1984) theatre critic

          Another log, new sunrise.

        • Tax dollars, worthless paper based on debt. Every time a dollar is spent is another dollar in debt for hard working honest people. The central bank is having a debt dollar interest wet dream through capital scams/setups. The more we spend the more they make.

          Red thumb = hitting a nerve

        • FBI, CIA rule #1…when you can’t find a Boogieman, create one.

        • WWTI,

          There’s not a thing you can do about it so hush.

      7. And George Soros funded $33 Million Dollars to the Protesters in Ferguson. As reported by Fox News this AM. Why aren’t these shills being held accountable for inciting an funding a riot.

        • See what i dont get is WHY are these fuckers not getting shot? I mean they must live near sOmeOnes Ao, but we still have sorros, sharptongue and dozens of other garbage fuckers, roaming around, stirring up shit they have no business stirring up, S0 ,, if not now WHEN? Hmm? At some point folks will be sayin coulda shoulda woulda but now is tOo LaTe! So WheN?

        • WWT: You are not very popular in Tel Aviv? I think if you just say “hi” the tribe will thumbs you down. LOL.

        • Looks like the red thumbs program is hijacked again. Or we have a lot of dumb ass people here. This was Fox news report today. A false flag funded by Soros.

          • Wwti, do you really think Soros gives a flip about this site? This is a zit on the ass of a flea on a dog…
            Why do you dis me for jokes???
            Death to Liars…

          • WWTI:

            We all have our red thumb stalkers. F’n Hillbilly has been hired to personally stalk me. In case you have not noticed it doesn’t post nasty comments to anyone else pointing out the ‘tribes’ involvement in the downfall of the world. Just lucky me. Seem odd that it is not brave enough to challenge other posters? Called posters pointing out the truth “chicken shits”.

            It’s posts will only encourage me to post more.

            • P.O.G. & Hunter:
              In response to Hunter’s post. I believe in the Bible. It was written to the history of what was goining on at the time. Yet it got revised a few times. It is a history of the Israelites from Abe to John in Revelation. But I must say there is a lot that was omitted, and much from other civilations that need to be taken accounted for. Like the Hall of Records per Cayce at the Spinx foot. And the Ascashic? Records in the cosmos. Then there is the realm of reincarnation until we get it right. Hence, why I say, everything we know is wrong…
              Does that make sense?
              We are all here on this Earth at this time for a reason, do you know your destiny???
              Ever given it a thought?
              Why are YOU here?
              I know I have eluded death a few times. Does anyone think you have a plan for your existence here on this plane and timespan in Earth’s history?
              And that your existence means anything????
              Sorry, 8 beers deep…

              • Also have to say, only 24k readers have hit this site in 5 hours, it is declining, per our certain posters who make sure to degrade this site, I almost want to quit also…
                But I keep on….

              • Thanks Eppe for being a stand up guy answering Hunters questions.

                I enjoy your jokes, so just keep on keeping on. With the world in such a mess, humor is always welcome.

                At one time you said you had followed a certain Pastor. From your post seems you are still confused. Murray was a pretty straight arrow……he has most things figured out.

                Sorry, no reincarnation, no do over. And, from the poorest of the poor family, the Lord has blessed me time and again. No other explanation for my path in this life, Eppe. Of that I am positive!

                • P.O.G., not confused, just keep an open mind in the options of the afterlife, dead in this carbon body, but your soul must go somewhere. Sometimes it seems wwti has no soul.
                  I find it amazing that we here at the plan talk about things that your spouse may not even know.
                  Thanks, Mac, great job, keep it going…

            • Polk salad granny,

              For somebody who likes to call yourself a ” truth teller”, you sure do seem to fall apart like a cheap suit when you’re challenged. I don’t think there’s anybody in the world who thinks you’re worth 10 cents to ” stalk” as you put it. Sounds like you’re whining about being challenged on your comments, NOW you try to portray yourself as some poor, defenseless old lady being unmercifully picked on when what I’m doing is exercising MY right to post comments on this board also.

              Go ahead and post all the comments you want to, I believe in the right to your own opinion, But what you WANT is to deny MY right of free speech because your arguments are weak and will not stand up to scrutiny, or perhaps your ” God” has let you down somewhat.

          • WWTI,

            Here have another….Your comments suck.

          • WWTI,

            I didn’t think you liked Fox News because it is run by Jews.
            Why are you watching Fox Jews? Remember there is a Zionist under every bed. They will find you and then……

      8. Its almost like they read Bracken and are using the BS in the Enemies series for a playbook.
        Truth? Or fiction?

        • KULA,
          I would be lookin for someone who could give me some advice on growin greens ( kale ,head lettuce) in a greenhouse type environment .
          We got totally different environments , but i need advice on seed starting primarily.
          I plowed under last years attempt at head lettuce. 🙁
          Bolting is a big issue due to temp fluctuations.
          So i am puttin up a hothouse .

          • We grow fantastic batches of kale from seed every year.

            • Well , we gotta talk …

            • Your soil cant be much different , why the hell do my plants bolt ?
              I cant get a handle on growin kale and lettuce.
              It just drives me nuts.

              • hammerhead
                do you plant by the moon? that can cause your stuff to bolt.if you don’t plant at the correct time

              • Heat and day length are the two biggest culprits. I shad my lettuce and Swiss chard in April, and by just picking outside leaves, can keep it going thru July. No one else has lettuce here after end of May, too hot…

                • Shade

                • I have a helluva time with greens.
                  I will try shade this year , i dont have a problem growing anything else.
                  Dont know why it has to be so difficult , LOL

          • hammerhead,
            we get more lettuce using Black simpson leaf lettuce, we live in a high altitude7700ft. and cold nights, works great for us also Kale and they have a cross that is spinach and mustard green and is very good also swiss chard which is very good, hope this helps

            • To all of the above.
              Is there any way to store lettuce. Dehydrate, Can, what ever? Here in Illinois we can grown leaf lettuce like there is no tomorrow. Or is there something else I can grow that work as well as lettuce. That I can put up.
              Thanks for the INFO.

              • Hi Sgt. I know of no way of storing lettuce, but i have dried kale and chard into “chips” in both the oven and a dehydrator, my grandmother used to blanch and freeze chard much like the packages of frozen spinach at the store. hope this helps

              • Sgt.
                I have seen heads of Napa Cabbage in stacks outside on a window shelf in February, in Manchuria(think -35degreesC). This food was in winter storage. Fermented cabbage stores excellent(Kimchi or Suarkraut). Don’t know much about lettuce or kale. But, canning spinach is a choice. Hope this helps.

              • re: women

                You can’t trust a creature that can bleed for a week and not die.

        • Kula, I’ve got all 3 of those books, given to me for an xmas gift in 2013. They were THAT HARD for me to put down. Plausible scenarios that could damned well become real.

        • kula, how about tricktion?

      9. The alleged perpetrator, a 20-year old quadriplegic, in a permanent vegetative state, was shown on surveillance video in his hospital room on life support, planning the attack with his FBI handler.

        And now here is Phil with the weather . . .


      11. Well as true as this maybe. If he was working with an FBI undercover he was think about doing it and was getting things inline to do so.
        Then again TPTB needs a Boogeyman, now don’t they.
        Questions, questions, questions.

        • Spoken like a true pig thru and thru……

          You will never get it! The true spirit of freedom and liberty just does not reside anywhere at all in you.

          • Blow Job
            No Troll you will never get it. Your Idea of freedom and liberty is anarchy. There is going to be laws and you will have to live by them, Get over it!
            I’m proud of being a PIG, Pride, Integrity, and Guts!
            You, you little troll have none of the above.

            I was the only one that gave you thumbs up when you asked the car question, and Warchild backed it up.
            You are an ungrateful troll with nothing to add to anything. You only cut down people on this site and add nothing positive. Go away we don’t need people like you here.

            • LMAO Sarge, this CS will never get it. But then a legend in his own mind never will.

            • Sarge, I don’t blame you one bit. I’ve tried to find some common ground with him on some things but it’s not there. I even offered him advice on his car question but he ignores it. That’s OK by me.

            • I am supposed to be grateful for your childish little thumb. I hope it isn’t the one you sick fuck ran in the boys underwear behind the wall for your privacy. And you show your ignorance when you spew your definition of what you think about anarchy….you are an idiot pig who couldn’t do anything else with your life. You also have no obvious idea of what a troll is, but don’t let me stop you from showing your ignorance……never met a cop who had a very high IQ anyway, only evil ones and ones who follow the chain of obedience.

              I only cut down the pigs and their badge suckers and any other statists. And how much I add to this board, honestly I don’t know. But I can say this, I stand on the side of history, the side of right and I am honest, I don’t violate another mans rights daily. I don’t violate the constitution daily. I don’t live off the peoples taxes. And I don’t steal from the people. And I am who I am and have met people from here that would verify. You are a liar and a fraud and I have posted factual links to prove it.

              • @ BJ,

                You have strong voice and hold sway over a lot of people’s thinking on this site. What, for the uneducated such as myself, do you think is really happening. Thanks as always.


                • your’e not funny….give it up ass

                • Big B
                  You pay bj a compliment and he calls you an ass. He is not one to be think he carries weight on this site. He is nothing but a smart moth little troll.

                  • Only you would be ignorant enough to think his post was anything but disingenuous and an attempt to be sly and funny.

              • BJ,

                You’ve called out dale for EXACTLY what he is, which is why he’s always trying his feeble minded attempts to reconcile with you so people will FORGET about the truth you’ve exposed him on in the Chicago Tribune investigation on him. When you add his little temper tantrum he threw a few months back he REALLY showed everybody just what he is, namely a sanctimonious prick. Notice how has to resort to name calling when angered, it’s he hallmark of a juvenile mind , coupled with his infantile fixation on ” THUMBS UP”, as if THAT had ANY bearing on anything, LOL!

                • anon and bj
                  I’m not like you trolls. When someone ask for help I try to help. Trolls like you two are really not wanted here. Anon. get a real name. Stop hiding!

                  • Hey dale, are you dyslexic or just a plain old idiot. The reason I’m asking is your spelling ability is that of a third grader. Whenever somebody you don’t like posts a comment, they’re a ” troll”. Of course YOU don’t want Bj or myself around for OBVIOUS reasons, main one being your past episode of playing stink finger was revealed and you’re desperate for it to go away. Not going to happen there dale ole’boy, get USED to THAT!

                    • I know huh? BJ, you needed to lighten up and take a compliment for what it is. That “ass” bit hurts.


      12. Used to be , the FBI would infiltrate a group and wait till they where gonna legitamatly do something .
        Now it seems they find someone who “might” do something and help them along , that just aint right.
        Lottsa people talk shit but probably wouldnt act without a gentle push .
        It aint their job to push .

        • Actually,the govt. has lost many cases due to that,pushing them along.Many attacks stopped by,yep,citizens,shoe bomber/underware bomber/that guy in nyc with suv that was smoking.I do think probably some legit attacks stopped and never mentioned to protect the folks who stopped em,they get their kudos in private.I would say get the hell out of mid east ect. and stop giving folks a reason to attack.

      13. Ive just finished my evening meal. Corn on the cob. Irish potatoes and tame rabbit. All grown& processed by Us. The best part no middlemen & parasites who had ought naught to do with our producing received any undeserved benefit or tax revenue. Starve the beast!

        • YEP ,OLD DUDE-
          ribeye , red potato’s , green beans and apple pie.
          All made right here , and that includes the flour.
          But the beer , i bought.
          I cant make a beer worth drinkin, workin on that….

      14. Ffff*CK THE zOG gESTAPO pIGS!

        i’m actually on the DHS’s “domestic terrorist lone wolf veteran watch list” in my state and “red flagged by the v.a. as being dangerous”.

        i’ve been stalked followed by the local DHS , local po po piggies and Sheriff office a few times.

        they even came to my house and tried to gain illegal entry into it by posing as possible renters.

        And they tried to entrap me on 5 occasions that i am aware of!

        it’s a real pain in the ass to say the least when they target you for their ‘gaslight’ operations and harassment, hoping to catch you doing or saying something to entrap you, following you around town.

        it lasted for 2.5 years before they quit.

        best advice i can give anyone being stalked by the zog gestapo pigs … know your rights , keep a daily log of whom you talk to and note any suspicious conversations , property theft, damages, harassment, threats, time and dates – it will help you stay sane keeping a logged history diary of it all, watch what you say and do in public view , watch peoples eyes, body language carriage and look for a tail when driving.

        trust your inner voice and instincts!

        trust no one!


        • “keep a daily log of whom you talk to and note any suspicious conversations ”

          LMAO , I’ll be sure and do that…..

          You will be OK when the booze wears off .



            Gaslighting or gas-lighting is a form of mental abuse in which information is twisted/spun, selectively omitted to favor the abuser(s), or false information is presented with the intent of making victims doubt their own memory, perception and sanity.

            Organized stalking is a manifestation of the view that intelligence and law enforcement agencies, their corporate cronies, and the military-industrial complex should have supremacy over all other elements of American government.

            Even if you think that is a desirable power structure for national security reasons, it is impossible to deny that it grossly violates core principles of the U.S. Constitution. Organized stalking also violates stalking prohibitions under federal law and state laws in all fifty states.

            One of the implications of that is that the perpetrators need to keep it a secret.

            This is a primary difference between the use of organized stalking as a domestic counterintelligence strategy in America today and its use by the Stasi (state police) in communist East Germany: in the U.S. it is illegal.

            This was true during the original version of Cointelpro also – and was a primary reason the U.S. Senate conducted its Church Committee investigations after the FBI’s activities were exposed by civilian activists.

            Many of the tactics and strategies employed by the Stasi were virtually identical to those now used (and largely out-sourced apparently) by the FBI and other agencies in the U.S.

            In East Germany however, the Stasi wanted citizens to be aware that their society was infested with spies because it furthered the communist party’s goal of political control. In the U.S., such a public awareness would trigger a backlash against the abuse of power by the government and its cronies, so it is kept under the radar.

            So the Achilles’ heel of gang stalking is exposure.

            From the perspective of intelligence and law enforcement agencies and corporations which use organized stalking as a secret illegal weapon for subversion, the perfect operation is one in which the target becomes progressively isolated, impoverished, emotionally degraded, and eventually commits suicide. That does happen in some cases – the most prominent example being the FBI’s psychological torture of actress and political activist Jean Seberg.

            Seberg’s case was tactically successful in the short term (they destroyed her emotionally), but it was ultimately a strategic failure for the FBI because their crimes against her ended up on the front pages of national newspapers.

            Without question, the vast majority of Americans do not want to live in a society infested with spies working for a Stasi-type government. To the extent that you can educate your fellow citizens about the creepy and illegal stalking activities of private security mercenaries, vigilantes, and corrupt law enforcement officers, they will be on your side.

            Targets of organized stalking must wage a two-front war: we must act locally to expose the harassment to neighbors and others, and we must expose what is happening on a national level as well. Both objectives are critical.

      15. Surprise surprise surprise

        Golly Sgt Carter

        Our govt actually perpetrates terror by utilizing patsies/proxies?

        I never would have known that..

        Never been done before either..



      16. OT
        This Swiss franc thing is really strange. Apparently some of the big players had inside knowledge the Swiss bank was going to pull the plug.
        I will post the link below but this excerpt caught my eye. Kind of reminded me of when gold took a dive.

        A number of spread betters, including Forex.com, CMC Markets and ETX Capital, issued statements saying that Thursday’s extreme currency movements had not materially affected their companies’ financial positions. However Adam Myers, European head of FX research at Credit Agricole, said that some market participants appeared to have been aware that the SNB’s decision was coming before the official announcement. “It definitely looks like to us,” he said on Friday. “There was a movement in the market well ahead of the headlines (from the SNB).” He also said there was a “huge flow” of Swiss francs — around 34.2 billion — into Switzerland during December, according to the SNB, which is around 10 times the monthly average. “You wonder why the Swiss had to break the peg – they were brought to bear by the enormous strain of money flowing into the country during December.”- By CNBC’s Katrina Bishop and David Faber. Reuters contributed to this report.

      17. HIGH FIVE FBI


      18. Just PR nothing here to really see people it’s just FBI tootng their own damned horn. This kids being used as a patsy to show us all how good their doing their job. Which their not just having some stupid pose for us. Probl not even in complete custody and will be spirited out later, and then back in under an assumed name. Much like goober a while back who supposedly wanted to blow up airlines or some crap. Never did hear again of him either. Conveniount that no one took the bait on that story,but soon after beheadings hit the news.

      19. All part of the GENOCIDE plan of the fascist filth controlling the Stasi Fascist FEUDAL SYSTEM shithole of collapsing Murica. If you still fly that filthy fascist Murican flag, or sing that anthem of dumbed down brain dead slave Zombies-YOU ARE A FILTHY FASCIST PIECE OF GUTTER SWINE TRASH AND A GENOCIDE SUPPORTER, WHO COULD CARE LESS ABOUT OUR CHILDREN’S FUTURE.

        The children of this generation of COWARDS will spit, piss, and shit on the graves of their COWARD parents for leaving them this Stasi Fascist FEUDAL SYSTEM collapsing shithole of the world. They will curse the names of their COWARD PUSSY parents for shooting them up with poisonous vaccines, for gladly handing them fluoridated chemical filled water, and for feeding them poisonous toxic FAKE FOOD processed shit.



      20. hey whats up with this pop up bullshit saying 50% complete and enter your email address? this used to be a good website what happened?

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