What Is The Best Method Of Rebellion Against Tyranny?

by | Feb 9, 2016 | Headline News | 91 comments

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    This article was originally published by Brandon Smith at Alt-Market.com


    I have heard it often said that there is no one right way to accomplish a goal. I agree. However, I would add that while there is no such thing as “one right way” to achieve an objective, this does not mean there aren’t numerous WRONG ways to achieve an objective.

    Doing “something” is not always better than doing nothing if that “something” is based on terrible strategy. Unfortunately, there are people out there with otherwise good intentions, even in the liberty movement, that seem to think that taking action without planning is preferable to patience. They do not understand that there is such a thing as negative returns.

    The reality is that action is easy. Patience and planning are difficult. Emotional reaction is simple. Quiet professionalism is complicated.

    This is the dynamic that is plaguing the liberty movement today; the battle between our emotional drive to jump headlong into conflict with our progressively corrupt establishment, and the absolute necessity for intelligent strategy and proper timing.

    The issue here is not “fighting.” Most of us know and accept the fact that a fight is coming whether we like it or not. I say by all means, let’s fight, but fighting is not enough. If we fight, we must fight TO WIN, and this requires fighting smart.

    On the other side of the coin, the weak handed and weak hearted will argue that fighting in any respect is “useless” or “immoral” and will result in failure.  This is the pacifist camp, which never produces much in the way of practical solutions.  There are very useful and peaceful methods for non-participation and nullification, most of which I am happy to promote.  That said, non-participation is only part of the battle.  If you are dealing with a psychopathic adversary (which we are), ultimately that adversary will use overt violence to stop you from nullifying their authority.  If you are not willing to use active self defense against true evil based on some deluded Gandhi complex, then you and the historical memory of you will be erased.  It is perfectly possible for a person to fight in self defense while maintaining his core principles.

    If you fight, then there is a chance.  If you do not fight, then failure is guaranteed.  The “odds” are irrelevant.  How you fight (fighting smart) is the only matter of importance.

    Recently I have seen a growing contingent of people within the movement that seek a fight but question the concept of planning or waiting. They’ll argue that planning is somehow impractical, or that there will never be a perfect time for action. This way of thinking has only been inflated by the latest events in Burns, Oregon.

    The Oregon standoff is a stunning example of how emotional action leads to failure and tragedy. Many will argue over the circumstances surrounding the death of Lavoy Finicum — did he reach into his jacket, or was he reacting to being shot? Were the police officers involved in fear for their lives, or were they out for blood? The majority of liberty activists will undoubtedly assume malicious intent on the part of the government due to their track record of murder and lies. I don’t blame them. That said, I would point out that while Finicum may be dead because of ill intent on the part of trigger happy cops, he was put in that position in the first place due to inadequate planning and leadership.

    The argument that the FBI should have never been in Burns in the first place overlooks the fact that Bundy and team, strategically speaking, should not have been there either. They could have been in a far better position if only they had thought their conundrum through.

    Oregon and the death of Finicum are not failures on the part of the liberty movement. They are failures on the part of Bundy and team, who refused to listen to scores of people with far more experience and knowledge in such situations; the same people who tried to help the occupiers adjust their tactics and offer them safer ground and safer footing. The failure in Oregon is what happens when amateurs, not just in training but in tactical philosophy, undertake a rebellion.

    Some will argue that experienced tacticians within the movement (and there are many) refused to show up for the fight, and thus sentenced the occupiers to defeat. I would argue that the Oregon standoff was FUBAR from the very beginning. From its inception it was doomed. Half the movement saw it plain as day. For me, the end result was obvious.

    A team of well-meaning but unorganized and untrained activists thrust themselves into a situation beyond their capabilities and under the potential influence of agents provocateur. There was no vetting for random strangers seeking to join their ranks; no direct goals and no clearly defined strategy, only vague demands and notions. No thought of planning one or two steps ahead, let alone five steps ahead. A circus atmosphere inspiring public ridicule rather than public respect. A complete lack of understanding of the gravity of the situation leading to a false sense of safety and comfort, or in some cases even hubris.

    This is why most liberty tacticians had no interest in showing up to the Oregon standoff; not because they were fearful, not because they are “sunshine patriots,” not because they are waiting for a “perfect” moment that will never come to kick off a revolution. They did not show up because it was a scenario that could not be salvaged. It was a carnival. Period.

    To compare events to the first American Revolution, I do not see the standoff and the shooting of Finicum as a Lexington Green moment (though it hasn’t fully ended yet). Rather, I see it as a Boston Massacre moment. The Boston Massacre was an absolute tragedy, but also not a cut-and-dry affair. John Adams, acting as legal defense for the British soldiers accused of initiating bloodshed, realized that the Sons Of Liberty were desperate to use the event politically to rally support for direct revolution, but also understood that the timing and the circumstances were utterly wrong. The Sons of Liberty wanted to hold up the Boston Massacre as a symbol of ALLthe oppression the colonials suffered under the crown. Adams, though an avid champion of the cause, correctly treated it as a singular tragedy and not an opportunity for exploitation.

    The colonials would eventually enter into revolution at Lexington and Concord; clearly defined defensive scenarios in which the militia obstructed the path of British soldiers sent to arrest leaders of the Sons of Liberty (Samuel Adams and John Hancock), as well as to confiscate firearms and black powder caches. The militia had a direct goal (to impede the British from reaching Adams and Hancock) and the British used clear and overt force against them, resulting in an immediate and violent justified response by other militias. This is one right way to start a rebellion.

    So if Oregon represents an example of the wrong way to do things, what is a better way? I described alternative methods with a much greater chance of success in my article “Real Strategies For Removing Federal Presence From Western Lands,” but I would like to explore beyond specific tactics and discuss mindset — the overall philosophy behind a winning rebellion in our modern era.

    Divided We Win, United We Fall

    This might sound counter-intuitive; I’ll explain.

    A movement should be united in its stance and its values in order to succeed and I believe the liberty movement is indeed united for the most part on these terms. However, when it comes to concrete action the more centralized our efforts the less we will achieve and the more likely we are to fail.

    I find it interesting that whenever a call goes out to the movement to take action it usually involves concentrating large masses of us into a small area with no outlined plan or directives. With the exception of Bundy Ranch, which I believe was entirely organic in how it came about, most of these calls to arms are initiated by questionable personalities or people possibly under the influence of provocateurs who seek to march us all into a box, whether it be a bridge in Washington, D.C. or a scrub brush refuge in Oregon. In the face of a vastly superior opponent in terms of arms and technology, it seems to me that the establishment would prefer us all to be hyper-focused on only one battle space at one time, putting all our eggs in one basket and leaving us vulnerable.

    Instead, a rebellion in this day and age must be asymmetric in nature; meaning smaller groups acting covertly on their own initiative everywhere rather than in only one place. Amassing in one small region might be useful under very specific conditions, but if you want to pose an actual threat to a large criminal system, you need hundreds of events, all of them far better planned than Oregon.

    Organization Through Localism

    If you cannot even secure your own family or your own neighborhood from potential threats, then why would you expect to be successful in projecting out to a whole other state and community and securing it instead? Local organization is more important than national organization or grand posturing on the national stage. If you can strengthen your own community while others do the same across the country, then the effects will be felt nationally by default.

    Far more can be accomplished through localism than by rolling the dice on mass theatricality and Alamo-style tactics.

    Communications Networking

    Unity does not come best through concentrated action but through solid communications. The fact that most of the liberty movement has no coms networks outside of the mainstream grid is a sad state of affairs that will lead to our downfall. As far as my information shows, the Oregon occupiers had no ham radio communications and relied primarily on cell phones. This is a disaster waiting to happen.

    When there is a national network of ham operators providing communications to the liberty movement, then and only then can we claim to have the means to organize effectively outside of our own communities. Do not assume for a second that you will have access to mainstream grid communications when you need them.

    Prepare To Aid People Outside The Movement

    The establishment would like nothing more than for the liberty movement to completely isolate itself from the general public. The more we refuse to interact with our communities the easier it will be to paint us as dangerous outsiders. The more we offer valuable services and training to a community, such as classes on emergency medical response, personal defense against active shooters, food storage and preparedness, etc., the more likely we will be seen as valuable assets to that community in the wake of a crisis.

    I have been undertaking such efforts in my own community for the past couple of years and have met many excellent people who are of like mind but not necessarily “activists” in the traditional sense. If you discount efforts to improve your local situation and to build bridges, you do so at your own peril.

    Focus On The True Culprits

    Eventually, someone is going to have to bring the international banking elites to justice for their direct influence over government corruption and destructive economic policy. Making stands against the Bureau of Land Management and other questionable federal agencies might be a necessary part of this fight, but the fight will never end until the original perpetrators are removed at the root. Beware of any group or “leader” who calls you to action but ignores the money-elite; they are probably more interested in exploiting you than helping you.

    Quiet Professionalism

    Perhaps most important of all is the need for liberty activists to adopt an attitude of quiet professionalism. This means analyzing situations objectively. This means having one’s heart in the right place without being driven emotionally. This means attaining personal excellence in any field of knowledge that might help you to gain victory.

    Winning this fight will require the extraordinary dedication of extraordinary individuals; anything less will result in disaster. Giving our all does not mean simply being willing to sacrifice our lives. That may be what happens, but this cannot be our only trump card. If you are not striving every day to master your own skills and initiative then you are not giving your all. If you are not organizing effectively at the local level because you assume no one will listen to you, then learn to communicate better and try again. If your only plan is to go out guns blazing, then you might as well stay home because you will do more harm for the movement than good.

    Become a local pillar rather than a mere complainer. Seek to produce results rather than demanding others do it for you. When you act, act intelligently. Be steady in your resolve and do not let anger or panic rule your thinking. Be fair in your assessments, and above all, once again, if you fight, fight to win. Fighting merely in the name of fighting is a fool’s game.

    If the movement had 10,000 individuals of this caliber victory would be assured against any odds.

    This article was originally published by Brandon Smith at Alt-Market.com

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      1. Good common sense article. Work locally to support and protect your communities and never forget the ones at the top who create the problems.

        • Same shit, new day…

          • GMAFB,
            Did you hope to wake up on a different planet this morning?
            The biggest problem with Joe Blow is he thinks tptb will some day be at peace. Tptb know in every fiber of their being that you are a worthless pos that fouls their planet. They are at war against you every minute. Joe Blow whines incessantly and thinks that 7 billion people cannot win against 62 psychopaths.
            Yep, that’s this old world.

            • “What Is The Best Method Of Rebellion Against Tyranny?”

              Public hangings. Got rope?

              • Nobama, good to see you back. There won’t be enough rope to hang them all so need a certain amount of ‘brass and lead’ to have the same effect.

                • Hi Braveheart!

                  Try rebar, from about 90,000 ft…

                • Can’t we recycle?

          • AGREED !!!!!!

          • I can’t get over how all these so called “Brave Men” continually show their “COWARDICE” and try to DISGUISE it as “STRATEGIC GENIUS!”

        • Rebecca Bear,

          I think not. 100% of the blame for this shit goes to the baby boomers. You asses were responsible for the stewardship of our government and you failed monstrously.

          I am a millennial. I worked hard all my life just to see the American dream turn into a shit parade right in front of my eyes. We don’t deserve this.



          Thanks for fucking up the world’s greatest country, boomers. You dickheads.

          Guess we have to build a new puritan colony and start all over again from scratch.

          Eat shit and die you boomer bastards.

          • Your full of crap. Boomers did not elect Obama.

            As far as economic forces I suggest you read “The Demographic Cliff” by Harry Dent. There’s more to the economy than mishandling.

            Sorry about your kids employment problems. A huge portion of their problem is a flopping economy due to natural cycles, and not evil intent. I’d still be curious about their college majors? My two millennials are doing fine so far, one an EE, and the other an economics major. The EE is about to get his masters, they are both working and both paid off all college debt already.

            I was listening to a discussion about universities selecting, promoting professors based on political opinion, political correctness and ethnic quotas. They no longer want the smartest guy in the room. The result appears to be a dumbing down of higher education. We are seeing the results of a trophy for everyone college diploma.

            • PTPO: dang I have that book! I got it last year for the cost of S/H! Worth reading.

              • Exactly PTPO!
                Ass Scratched (and infected) has been infected with the liberal ideological methods and the divide and concur strategy. Baby boomers are the only hope this country has. We didn’t cause this crap – liberals did, and this country has been fighting them since the very beginning (try doing some reading fool, I suggest Crazy Horse and Custer by Stevephen Ambrose), much like the mooslims…

                I know a young lady (A Valedictorian) that went to a very fine university and emerged a liberal retard! The “millennials” had already been poisoned via the public school system and are the ones accelerating us to the sad state of affairs that we currently find ourselves in. Just look at the folks who think they can get everything for free – without any effort except placing a vote on a ballot!

                Most of what is wrong in this country (de-industrialization, rust belt, crumbling cities, blah, blah, blah)is the result of government interference in the market, and trade agreements that do not prioritize America!

                What can you do? Take a kid out to shoot who has never been. Teach someone how to reload. Get involved in amateur radio,and for God’s sake stop funding the enemy. Stop the movies (not watching, just watch for free) and get the heck off facebook!!!

                • The biggest problem I see i s lack of belief _ people won’t believe “our own government” would do what they ARE doing. I talk with people and they see maybe some possible corruption, maybe, but “regular people” can’t fix that! Then try to clarfy the real truth and I get that “look” that says “Oh-oh – a conspiracy theorist!” A nutcase in other words. There seems no way around it. We’re barely on the same planet. Even the few other vets I’ve spoken with plan on heading into the mountains for a few days, or maybe a few weeks. Is this nano-aluminum effect? I don’t know, but I seem to be alone here. My wife and kids were interested for a while, but due to her ex interfering so much they really HAD to go. I’ve been massively delayed, and it’s been too long. Now it seem that my “fixation” is something they “just don’t need to be around so much – it’s “an unhealthy fixation”. I know I had some now-mostly healed drain bammage… and I find I have less drive to fight. After being robbed blind three times, I have less to fight WI TH, too. Did I mention I’m a disabled vet? It’s been a long couple of years.

              • Philo,
                Did you actually read it?
                It’s a short read, but is packed with charts and economic tables. A bit dry for the undetermined.

                Don’t lose it. The charts and predictions will be good for a decade or more. Make the kids read it, it’s the best tea leaves you could give them.

                I do not agree with Dent’s prediction that Gold and silver will fall with the coming deflation, unless “the powers that shouldn’t be” manage to miraculously maintain the dollar as the global reserve currency. The dollar is too overprinted, Hyper-Inflation I think is a given, as it was for Germany. Had it not been for FDR’s gold confiscation and controls, gold would have gone wild in the Great Depression. The US government has openly and publicly asserted Gold is not a currency anymore, so they have little grounds to repeat what FDR did, unless it is a clear act of public theft.

                Iran announced days ago they will only accept Euros for oil. A slap in the face for Obama’s “just be nice and kiss Iran’s ass” policy. Will Obama accept this attack on the dollar. Every other nation that has done what Iran just did, is a pile of burnt rubble. Tick-tock!

                • I hear Brokeback Obama is applying fresh lipstick for another try…

            • wages have been stagnant for 30 years,not inflation.theres been a controlled choke happening.cheap housing is our only hope.or cheap land,and starter tents.

            • I totally agree, You so call millennials ran and elected Obama. And I do mean RAN! You could have voted for Ron Paul, but no, You are so ate up with diversity and multiculturalism crap, you could not wait to vote a black into office, thinking this would change the race relations of the US. Well, you got change alright. More riots, killings, social welfare, anti white discrimination. One of the reasons you cannot get a job, is the anti white discrimination polices that YOU, and i do mean YOU, MILLENNIALS, have given to the employment sector to hired anyone but white people. It is the PC thing to do. So, go work you diversity shit jobs along with your liberal socialist. Let me try and get something through that pea size brain of yours, you want socialism as it is described today. Look at cuba, or Venezuela, where people are starving to death everyday. The government has made it against the law to grow your own food. Cuba has been in the dark ages for 60 years now. Only recently has things looked up and cuba now might thrive. Now if you want a socialist state, at lest go for a Nazi Germany. You worked, period. you produce, period. If you were not German, your ass got sent away. Germany for Germans. Hear again, a lot of people only know what the schools of indoctrination tells them or the media. What people don’t learn is that the German people properer under Hitler, unlike the socialist movement today. See, if got rid of all the immigrants, there would be plenty of jobs for everyone. But YOU, MR. DIVERSITY has to make the US into a third world shit hole. so, little boy, this is your generations fault, not the older people.

          • Boom Chic-a-boom. Don’t you just love it.
            Boom Chic-a boom, boom, boom.

            by Wrinkly Old Bastard.

          • Acid; everyone is responsible. The ones before us and after us are responsible. you sound like Obama that blames everything on the last guy but takes no responsibility for the last 7 years. You make general assumptions,look in the mirror while you’re at it. Kiss my old ass while you are at it.


            • BH: nailed it.

            • Ooo Brave, I like when you talk LOUD…

              @Acid, you’re not old enough to draw that conclusion.
              This began in 1913, when the International bankers took over the money. Mayor Amschel Rothchild said it best “Give me control over a nations money, and I care not who makes its laws.”

              Politicians, bankers, even those preachers who admonish us to “submit to Godly authority”, are all to blame, which leaves those of us who didn’t fight it, because we were too stupid. I fought it, but Clinton signed GATT and NAFTA into law, Ross Perot was right and we are now living in the “great sucking sound” of 65,000+ factories closed down and outsourced.
              This was all predicted, by, guess who… boomers.

              • You’re 100% Correct PM. Wall Street are incestuously involved in our political system and the little guy can’t compete with that. We collectively don’t have enough money/influence……

              • PM, thanks for that. He had it coming from someone.

                • Uh,Brave,you have hemeroids due to age and bad luck!Do I blame the boomers,hell yes,along with all other generations!Want to see who is to blame,look in the fucking mirror folks!

                  That said,look into the mirror and decide what you are going to do to change things,first,with yourself!

            • Perhaps Assed Itch will kiss your hemorrhoids, and make them better…

          • “Deserves aint got nothing to do with it” our little poop stain.

          • I love you too.

          • Easy Acid,
            buckle down, and keep paying your taxes.
            Can you feel the Bern?

          • Yeah dipshit…now go out and vote for Bernie.

          • Yeah dipshit…now go out and vote for Bernie and see how that works out for ya.

          • Acid Etch,
            My son has taken this exact same economy, taken a couple lumps, and is successful. He is also kind and loving toward his mother. I have never caught him blaming the world for his failures, let alone the boomers. As a former bankster he knows exactly who is accountable, and it isn’t his mom. I say he is an adult. I say you have not yet attained adult status. You aren’t alone… you seem to be a majority in your generation. Every time you go off on a whiney tirade I thank God my son is a grown man. I don’t know much about you other than that you are unpleasant. Then again, I mostly skip your posts. You started with Rebecca Bear, so I guess you are talking to me. If you read history, no generation ever got a free ride, but you think if my generation did not provide you with an
            easy ride you hate us. Nobody ever got that in the history of the world. I am female and
            got kicked in the chops in corporate world. I bought a little house, fixed it up, sold it and
            made $5000. I worked all day, came home and fed my son and spent time with him.
            Then I was repairing until 11 or 12 at night. I earned my money. Your endless drivel is absurd. When are you planning to grow up? I was in my mid 20s with a crappy paying job and a child to support. Working 18 hours a day. You are online whining about not having a free ride.

            • Acid… and I didn’t buy a white bread house in a fancy neighborhood. I bought a modest little frame house in a Mexican neighborhood. To get the down payment I worked all day in a law firm, worked 3 nights a week as a cocktail waitress and typed papers for college kids on a freaking selectric typewriter.

          • @Etch,

            Being at the tail end of the “Baby Boomer” generation, I can without a doubt say that you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

            The “ME” generation has sucked everything out of this culture. This cultural destruction was done primarily by “us” not paying attention. Plain and Simple.

            One way to remedy is for each social security recipient to give up 3 months worth of social security benefits per year…for the next 10 years and live off their preps for the “down times”.

            This would put back about 1.6 trillion back into social security (assuming the jackass politicians wouldn’t spend it) and help to shore things up for future generations.

            Attention Baby Boomers….Consider this your Normandy! Only without bullets flying at you while walking up a wide open beach.

          • “Eat shit and die you boomer bastards.”
            People, Acid doesn’t even read your responses. His is a drive-by style of posting and he has neither the interest nor the capacity to read even the most intelligent replies.

            As to his quote I pasted, I would reply, ‘same to you, angry young punk, and, guess what?
            Tomorrow is promised to NO ONE, including you.

            • Ketchup,

              You know everything there is to know about acid wretch. He simply throws shit against a wall to see how much will stick, that’s all he ever has done. The unfortunate effect has been that he draws am audience for his freak show that simply refuses to ignore his little games and continues to feed him by responding to him. If people want to be rid of this game player you simply need to ignore him, nothing else is required. Yeah, he’ll hang on for a while but eventually he’ll become bored because he’s not getting people to listen him, he wants attention,period. Stop giving to him and he’ll fade away like a fart in the wind.

          • Acid,You spill shit out your cunt face, to a point that I would love cut your FUCKING head off and put it on a stake.Must be some really dirty acid you took to be so fucking stupid.Fuckin Morons like you keep this world poisoned.

        • So let’s mess with those at the top.

          With the amount of rules, regulations, and control the gov has in this period of our history, why don’t we have a jury nullification association?

          Imagine the hissy-fits that the gov lawyers would have if their conviction rates plummeted to, say, 10% because the people of this nation started to refuse to convict someone for breaking unconstitutional and petty ‘laws’?

          Harold pissed in a puddle on the back forty? Yes. By doing so he violated federal statute xxx-xxxxx? Yes. Well….screw you mr. Gov lawyer, NOT GUILTY! Don’t waste our time again.

          Boy, I wish things like that would happen. And often. Petty regulations rendered null and void by juries. The power of the people finally limiting the gov.

          Realistic? Probably not.

          • Hiram,
            It is realistic. It has a long history in the US, in fact. Juries refuse to convict on stupidity. It can work wonders. The judge that tasered his defendant was recalled because citizens were furious. I take the call to thought and working locally to be a necessary first step.

            • Yes, well said Rebecca. Good post.

          • you are right.not guilty is probably our most powerful move.a lot of people dont know about the right oof jurors to vote not guilty for any reason.we should all serve jury duty and acquit petty crap.

          • Hiram
            I am still thinking about juries going innocent on BS charges. It would be enhanced by taking every stupid ticket, fine, charge, to court. It would break the back of the courts, which only function through plea bargain. We need a legal defense fund and attorneys. Free paralegals like me to donate time. Any attorneys in the house with a suggestion for us babes in the woods?

        • Yeah never forget them … While you hunt them down

      2. “I would argue that the Oregon standoff was FUBAR from the very beginning. From its inception it was doomed. Half the movement saw it plain as day. For me, the end result was obvious.”

        Durango Kid was also adamant that it was a mistake as well.

        I think the episode has several instructive lessons which Brandon argues for. I would simply add that the shooting of Mr. Finicum also reveals (once again) the character of the Feds and what a potential martial law would look like.

        • “However, when it comes to concrete action the more centralized our efforts the less we will achieve and the more likely we are to fail.”

          A good article Brandon but I must disagree, at least in part, with your analysis; particularly the quote above, although I understand why you believe it.

          Every successful liberty movement in history has had three characteristics:

          1) Exceptional leadership organizing, motivating, and directing its strategy. This leadership should be able to analyze, strategize, communicate, and effectively persuade its membership through superior rationale of its Agenda and its ability to lead, through an appropriate VISION, well articulated.

          2) a political “front” pursuing its Agenda for Liberty through the political process; and

          3) a determined, disciplined cadre of courageous freedom fighters, working hand in hand with its political AUTHORITY.

          Look at any successful Freedom Movement in modern history and you will find that they are organized with a centralized decision making progress of Intelligent Leadership.

          IE The Confederacy; the Bolsheviks; The Nazi; The IRA; the Pathet Lao; The Viet Cong; The Cubans; The Jews; The CCP; or The Color Revolutions of recent memory. All of these liberty movements had a centralized authority and a superior leader, around which other, intelligent, like minded individuals could coalesce.

          All of these Freedom Movements had organized, CENTRALIZED decision making processes and intelligent leadership;that co-ordinated asymmetric actions by dispersed individuals and groups, to conform to larger goals with higher priorities than just an expression of violence.

          That said, form a FREEDOM CELL where you live and organize POLITICALLY first. Freedom Cells will connect at a later date. Follow US Constitutional Principles FIRST, as the US Constitution is the most powerful weapon of the Liberty Movement.

          Helter Skelter might be an effective strategy to confound the Blue Helmeted Thugs, but only if it is co-ordinated by the Liberty Movement’s elected AUTHORITY and that AUTHORITY is recognized and respected by the other “stakeholders” and the PTB.

          Otherwise the Liberty Movement is just a mob in Ferguson Missouri, or a group of vandals in Oregon with shit for brains and a moron as its leader. 🙁

          • Hey DK , spot on !
            I would not choose the term “central authority” because that seems a bit totalitarian .
            But a successful movement needs leadership at some point.
            Organization is key , but free people make free choices .

            • “Organization is key , but free people make free choices.”

              Yes, and the Free People in the groups I mentioned agreed to submit themselves to a “central authority” they respected to accomplish their common goal.

              Multiply your power in a group. Magnify your voice in an organization. Create a Freedom Cell where you live. 🙂

          • “2) a political “front” pursuing its Agenda for Liberty through the political process; and”

            I think the best example in modern times in a similar culture is Sinn Fein and the IRA.

            • My point EXACTLY. 🙂

        • It is all about continuity of government. If the criminals in government feel their monopoly of force and power over the people is a risk, they will respond with tyranny. They will do whatever it takes ro maintain that control over the taxpayers.

      3. The best is dropping off the matrix as much as possible while engaging with like minded people,help starve the idiocy.Do this by growing your own food/supporting local farms/home made solar and wells/learning to live with less,engaging in barter/cash/alternate cash economies,that just for a start.

        Work locally to get communities on board/do not take the bribes the feds offer/learn as a community to be more self sufficient.

        Prepare if (probably)the leviathan resorts to straight out violence at all levels,fight back,you need to prepare/train for this physically and mentally.

        The idiocy will crash under it’s own weight,be ready and as dust settles offer/work on doable alternatives,there is still a future but it may be decades in the making,best of luck to all who at least try.

        • WC: Nailed it.

        • Warchild, great comments. There are already whole communities heading in these various directions. Some of them don’t realize they are, but economic necessity has forced them to reassess their local economic model. More of the economy is going underground regionally. Barter & under the table cash for goods and services is becoming the norm for some small communities away from big cities. Not a bad thing at all, in my opinion….

      4. gurella warfare and extreme vandalism. Terrorist acts.Do the same a Sherman did on his march to the sea. Read how Gengis Kann achieved victort. For a example of failure check out Boudicas Army.

      5. Anyone entertain the thought of voting in the primaries for Congress and Senate and putting in grass roots candidates? If you can’t get enough people away from both Sports and Dancing With The Stars to do then its all futile.

        By the way some of you people are nuts.

        • I resemble that remark. Fortunately I live in Arizona and we are allowed to have a gun here, for every personality. 🙂

        • That’s why I’ll never take the psych test for owning a firearm.

      6. Everyday I ask myself, it’s for his all real is tot really happening and sometimes I still into denial because of the pain and reality… then I saw what they did to Finicum how he was shot and killed in cold blood.. it’s all real, it’s really happening and now I have to face a civil revolutionary and ww3 in my life time.. it makes. t stomach kites jay phucking sick..



        • Maybe you’d like to run that by us in English? Or are you selling secret decoder rings for people to understand your blabbering?

        • Welcome to reality. It has that effect.

      7. “Divided We Win, United We Fall

        A movement should be united in its stance and its values in order to succeed… However, when it comes to concrete action the more centralized our efforts the less we will achieve and the more likely we are to fail.”


        The ultimate solution is not physical action, but mental transformation.

        It is a change in political consciousness among a critical mass of the public.


        “Governments are not granite monoliths. They are air domes, supported from moment to moment by our belief that they are necessary. The moment we realize they are not, they will collapse in a heap at our feet.”
        — Quotations from Chairman Zhu

      8. The short answer to: “What Is The Best Method Of Rebellion Against Tyranny?”, is probobly a good head shot! Ok that was sarcastic.

        When I watched the movie about Vasily Zaytsev the Russina sniper, an important character was the obnoxious propaganda reporter that attached himself to Vasily. He gave a voice to the resistance in Stalengrad. He projected the image that one man could fight against the German Army. Information and propaganda are foundational, in the case of Origon the MSM aligned themselves with the government.

        How important is propaganda? One photograph that went viral from the Kent State shooting of war protestors changed the direction of the US in Vietnam. A government that had repeatedly successfully murdered protestors in multiple cities with impunity, had gone one step too far.

        These ranchers have an incredibly important message, but it won’t be grasped until Americans find the stores empty and half of America is hungry to starving, and even then if the government can control the message it will be the greedy ranchers faults, and not the government that murdered ranchers for speaking out.

      9. Never admit to violating any Federal, State, or local laws. But the “passive aggression” is legal. I didn’t see or hear anything. If you work, claim enough deductions so no tax is deducted. Pay at the April date, file for an extension, and have them bill you for the penalty. When you show up for jury duty, claim you hate cops and find lawsuits to be evil. File an appeal for every property tax assessment. In states where it is allowed file for fuel tax rebates for fuel you used off road.
        Use an Obama tactic, overwhelm the system. Work to rule. Don’t ever talk to a cop unless you say “Am I being detained? Am I free to go”.
        It is a death by a thousand cuts.

        • Good information. Thanks. I thought I was pissed off! Damn! Those are excellent tactics, my friend, excellent!

        • I take just the opposite to jury duty. I am 64 almost 65 and have never served. I am a former LEO and come from an LEO family. Your honor, I will always take the word of the officer and DA over any defendant. No thanks, we don’t need you. You’re excused.

          • Interestingly, My jury questioner always asks if I’m related to LEO and has my family ever been sued. I have to truthfully answer yes. It is perjury if you lie. I never have been called to serve on a jury. Funny thing is I will evaluate facts and data, regardless of my personal feelings. I’d be the best juror you can get. But then it is called the “justice system”, not the what “is real system”.

          • ” Your honor, I will always take the word of the officer and DA over any defendant”

            WOW……”Any Defendant”. I’m at an absolute loss for words with that statement. Its truly frightening. Why do we even bother to waste our time with trials, juries and judges?


        • you can help some poor bastard being bullied by the government by serving jury duty

      10. Good thoughtful article. I am in favor of Education as the most important vehicle to freedom and disinformation as the greatest obstacle to freedom. Truth is powerful.

      11. Re. that Malheur, OR. standoff – below is a copy/paste from a recently retired state trooper (personal friend, was very senior). This is exactly as he wrote it, with just one typo corrected and a couple paragraph breaks added for readability. (I had asked what a “bad shoot” was). He is very objective, and will also defend the police in other situations I ask about. So the below is pretty darned profound…

        “Bad shoot is a police term for unjustified. It was an execution in my opinion. He swerved to miss a roadblock set up around a corner is my understanding. One of their ridiculous attempts to justify the shooting is that he almost ran into an FBI agent. Reaching for his waistband is NOT justification by any stretch. They had the benefit of cover and superior firepower. Until you actually see the gun you cannot assume that is what he is reaching for and murder him.

        I almost took out an illegal immigrant who was traveling with some gangsters late night. He reached under his jacket when I told him to get out of the car and you could hear about six cops getting ready to light him up. After using verbal commands (yelling our lungs out to get his fu#@&*&) hands up he figured it out. Turns out he didn’t speak English and was nervous and reaching for a cigarette. That’s what cops do.

        It was amateur hour, of course he swerved into the agent since that is how they set up the roadblock. The idiot agent was standing right where the vehicle had to swerve to miss the roadblock. For that matter why a roadblock at all? There are strips that you can lay across the roadway that puncture the tires. Real cops have been using them for as long as I can remember. Cars and trucks can still drive on flat tires but that is cop 101, disable the car and then attempt the stop if necessary. How long did they think he would drive on flat tires in the snow? All they did is invite a confrontation and it turned out bad.

        That’s what happens when the FBI tries to play cop, they have no idea what they are doing. I’ll take any Chicago street cop any day to diffuse that situation peacefully without killing grandpa. But of course they are going to send these idiots in to investigate every police shooting but there will be no investigation of this incident, he was a white guy with a Bible and a gun!”

        • I have read that the layout of the roadblock itself in Oregon was arranged so the driver had no place to go except to careen off the road or strike and possibly kill police involved. Remember these were icy snowy roads, and this roadblock was arranged to be a deadly trap. It’s use against known occupants that posed no risk to police was in itself attempted murder by police and FBI.

          Whoever drove that truck did an excellent job and foiled the FBI’s attempt to kill all occupants.

          If you look at pictures, two police/FBI immediately left cover and began approaching. One from the forest was shooting at Levroy with police in the roadblock directly in the line of fire. The other officer came behind the vehicle and exposed himself to all the occupants of the vehicle, which is crazy, did he assume they were no threat? Then why shoot? If they were a deadly threat what is he doing walking around in the open.

          This entire shooting was a planned execution. The only thing that went wrong was the FBI didn’t successfully murder more people. I hope the Finicum family sues the crap out of the government, because they will win.

      12. Brandon Smith

        I did enjoy your article. After reading the comments I would say IMO there are very few that will commit to violence. That is what I sense. There will be those who will engage at the wrong time as to what you have written above. But this is what I take issue with.

        “If you are not organizing effectively at the local level because you assume no one will listen to you, then learn to communicate better and try again.”

        Now I am done with trying to get people to listen, I do my part here at SHTF by sharing information. But I am done with the abuses and insults and not until I see the fear in others eyes or the deep concern in their voices, will I extend my effort to any cause. There again, it may come time for me to, Just Do It!

        Am I Ready? Lesser than a few but more than others.

        Lot could not find ten good people to save two cities.
        I have a very small idea how he felt.

        • Actually Lot got to the point where he asked God to spare the cities if he could find only one and God agreed. But we know how that went. Pap always told me, “Don’t waste about looking for help to show up son cause it ain’t comin'”.

          • It wasn’t Lot who pleaded with God to spare Sodom and Gomorrah. It was Abraham.

        • There are some from this site that I would trust watching my six. Am I up to ten? Mmmmmm. Nope. Working on that list. I still have hope.

          • Philosopher

            Who would you go in with?

            Your best bet are those you have know through the years. Trust is a big factor.

            Suppose you end up with a nearby group and you have no idea what type of people they are. Might be a problem. No at the moment but show up later.

            Do they address each other by rank.
            Have flags and slogans you do not agree with.
            Commentary does not fit the slogans and Flags.
            Literature that they read.
            Willing to fight at a drop of the hat.
            Secluded command structure.
            Do you feel you fit into the group. Comfortable?
            How do they treat each other.

            Are they as physically fit as you are?
            Does the gear have interchangeability ammo gun parts, Mag.
            Are their mode of operations SANE.
            Are your capabilities better than theirs.
            Are they willing to listen to your views.
            Are they willing to be taught new things.

            You can bet your life on it that a person will walk into an Army Navy store buy some type of insignia. Pin it on his collar and then try to lead men into battle.

            You know what happens then.

      13. When I was younger (and it’s probably the same today), there were people who didn’t even have a social security number. They didn’t buy anything with a title. They might have a driver’s license, but that wasn’t a real control number. We referred to these neighbors or family members as flying below the radar; ghosts; they didn’t exist in the public records; and therefore they lived on the fringes; cash, trade, and barter … petty theft and con games. It is an existence way of living; not the preferred way – not enriching …..Anything short of isolation from the current institutional system will wind up becoming a re-invention of the same thing. We will have to become the new North American aboriginals; in the swamps, the woods, the mountains, and even the deserts. Live like the animals. Fighting the powers is unavoidable; they’ll bring it to the Shire ……

      14. … and who ARE the tyrants, and what is their end?

        Well, the Apostle Paul, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, talks about those the work against the honour of God, and the freedom and intrinsic dignity of those created in His image in Romans 1:

        “For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. Claiming to be wise, they became fools…”

        I realize those engaged in the moral destruction of this culture blow the above Words off. But that is the exact point… quod erat demonstrandum.

        Point is, there IS a Hell; point is, we are all going to be dead a lot longer than we will be alive. The point is, for those that oppress man and mock Go – as CS Lewis, people point to the Old Testament as harsh… yet some of the most terrifying words in the whole Bible come from the mouth of Jesus Himself. Those allied against God and freedom, barring repentance, are truly in for a frightening fate. Review how and why former atheist Peter Hitchens, brother of famed, late atheist writer Christopher Hitchens, ended up following Christ. Easy to find out by a quick google.

        People have mocked God and oppressed mankind created in His image in every generation. And each of those generations that did so, that did not have a change of heart, are now truly and literally separated from God, what Christ called outer darkness. These oppressors, in their arrogance, mock God. So did Lenin, so did Mao, so did Hitler. So do many today. Yet in an eyeblink relative to eternity, they will indeed be standing before their Maker and Judge. Those who are oppressing their fellow man had better reflect very, very, VERY carefully, for at a certain point, you search your conscience so utterly that a renewal is almost impossible (though all things are possible with God, witness John Newton, who wrote Amazing Grace. (For those of you who don’t know the story of Newton, google it. Incredible story….

      15. think like an Apache. Hitler liked American west novels and during WWI was a runner delivering messages on the battlefield. His unit had 85 percen6t losses. he was wounded and later gassed but he survived He thought like a old west scout. The Irish Easter Rebellion is a lesson in poor planning. The rebels were hold up in the Post Office which was on fire shells exploding against its massive walls Heavy machine gun fire sweeping the streets, But it was also dole day and people lined up to get their dole despite common sense The flames and shells were ignored. Many police and military folk will rebel also domt assume they all enemies. The FFI tried to hold a mtn area of France against the Germans b5ut it was illusion and smoke to think they were safe there they were chased down and defeated massively. dont get pinned down in a fixed position.

      16. the rebellion should be the citizen arrest of their leaders from every state to try them for treason.

        • charlie2dogs

          I believe you are on to something with citizens arrest.
          You would have to have at least 50 percent of the people to be pissed off before action would take place.

          But what would piss people off to the point of actually doing it? We get angry all the time and the polls show 60% or more. It would have to hit home and hit home REAL HARD!

        • Charlie dogs
          now that’s a plan

      17. look at history. because of the depression the citizens let Roosevelt violate the counstition. Because he promised free goods and services from the public coffers. Nothing has changed. we had a recession and Obama got in on the promise of hope & change. And the free shit army lets him do whatever he wants. If the economy completely goes bust the populace will allow even more infringement & loss of freedoms. Its really mainly only us old boomers that give a shit. the younger folks are a product of the social commie education system. Of course it wont last the situation of too few makers and too many takers is not sustainable. I hope Nibiru and the pole shift are more than a myth.

      18. I don’t think we can save America or the West by voting. But, I am going to vote for Trump so I can watch the news and check out the hot First Lady. Hubba hubba!

      19. Don’t hang around with crazies. Don’t put a target on yourself. Keep your head down while the storm rages. When you are hungry find an apple that is within your reach and pick it.

      20. “So if Oregon represents an example of the wrong way to do things, what is a better way?”

        Quit giving your consent to and participating in the system and simply just STOP voting. It’s so easy and so…effective, especially as our numbers grow. Just watch what TPTB will be forced to do about this…
        Yes!! I proudly support all the candidates from the “Does Not Vote” political party!!!!!

      21. Interesting article that sometimes seems unsure whether it is saying fight, or don’t fight, except in a certain way, etc… of course, planning and strategy is essential, and only a fool would suggest otherwise, but all the voices clamoring for the defeat of the tyranny need to be unified by singularity of purpose, and a willingness to act on it, which there isn’t too much evidence of yet.

        Of course the first action of any kind must be to take back local legislative authorities, and justice and education systems, something the older, supposedly wiser, generations have long ignored, allowing this tyranny to get its foothold in the first place. Newer generations of zombies are being churned out by the indoctrination centers (aka schools and colleges), and very few of the whiners are actually “involved” at any level to do anything about it. People who have been getting involved are ambitious, doing it mostly for self serving reasons, to advance their own power and wealth, just like 99% of Congress does, and that is what drives the bandwagon of political correctness. It is clear to me that the vast majority of people ultimately worship money and the power it buys, and their god is mammon.

        The author’s remarks about the ranchers and Finicum’s murder needs to take into account the background and history of the BS that was inflicted on those ranchers who were being forced out by hook or by crook by powerful forces seeking to profit from the uranium mining potential, worth billions upon billions of dollars, so the hundreds of thousands, even millions in total so far, to pay off local bureaucrats, local LEOs, bloggers, and the Blackwater mercenaries to execute Finicum, is peanuts in the total “investment” scenario of the billions at stake. The killers were IMO unlikely to have been FBI… look at the first shooter, he does his job to wound Finicum and get the reaction, then slinks off to allow the other executioners to complete the job, all very obvious, when Finicum at no time held a weapon in his hand to threaten anyone. Finicum needed to be murdered because the Greedy Ones were afraid that as a father figure icon with a voice of reason in the freedom protest movement he might actually win public sympathy. It was nipped in the bud. I’ve seen bloggers systematically and relentlessly demonize Finicum, the Bundy and Hammond families, on a day by day basis as only paid off whores could ever do… the Greedy Ones control the media, and all the tools of official repression. For any kind of meaningful armed insurrection a significant portion of the armed forces would need to participate, along with their munitions, and with LEADERSHIP. The problem with any such leader, who might galvanize both public and uniformed support, is that he would immediately be targeted by the tyrants and their minions… one needs to look at how civil wars have been conducted in history to get some idea of what is needed. However, the tyrants have learned what needs to be done to suppress any meaningful opposition, and are busy plunging the USA and the rest of the globe into a third world war, when full mobilization of military resources will be geared to safeguarding the incumbent gov’t and their supporters… we live in interesting times.

        • GS

          Good post.

      22. I suppose Brandon censored himself for a reason but I don’t feel the same constraints. When he refers to the ‘International banking elites’ he should have said the Eskimos, you know, the Tribe, the ‘chosen ones’ that are destroying our world and enslaving us all.

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