UPDATE [15:35 CDT] Following an early afternoon standoff with Bundy supporters and militia, the Bureau of Land Management is withdrawing federal agents from the area. There are reports of heavy traffic on I-15 as a result of a federal caravan of exiting agencies.
Bundy ranch cowboys and hands are standing by for the BLM to open the coral gates and release cattle rounded up during this week’s raid.
Communications to the area seem to have been restored. No shots have been fired.
The resolution at this time seems to be a peaceful one, despite earlier threats from federal agents that they would shoot into the crowd if they did not disperse.
You can watch a live feed (available at 15:40 CDT) with Infowars’ David Knight at Ustream.
Read the original report below: Victory for Citizen Militia: FedGov Pulls Out of Nevada: “Serious Concern About the Safety of Employees”
A couple hundred years ago some domestic terrorists got together and penned a Bill of Rights for a fledgling nation. Within their founding document they included a provision designed specifically to protect its newly formed experiment from tyrannical rule by way of arming its inhabitants so as to provide a backstop for those who would attempt to supplant their natural rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
This morning we have a prime example of why the founding fathers found these steps necessary and how powerful their decree really is to ensuring the freedom of Americans.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
Over the last two days thousands of supporters have made their way to Bunkerville, Nevada where hundreds Federal government agents had begun rounding up privately owned cattle from public lands and cordoning off protesters into remote desert First Amendment Areas.
What made this particular “protest” different from previous peaceful assemblies like Occupy Wall Street is that many of those who arrived in Bunkerville were members of citizen militias from around the country – and they were heavily armed.
In short, this time around our overreaching Federal government was out manned and outgunned.
As reported by Infowars, the Bureau of Land Management and other Federal agencies have made the decision to pull their militarized assets out of the area.
A day after Infowars blew the lid on Sen. Harry Reid’s link to the BLM’s land grab of the Bundy Ranch, the Sheriff of Clark County, Nevada, Douglas Gillespie, announced to tremendous applause Saturday that the Bureau of Land Management would cease their efforts targeting cattle rancher Cliven Bundy.
In an emotional response, Bundy told the Sheriff he had one hour to disarm the federal agency and to bring the arms to the platform where speeches were made this morning, and to take down their barricades.
According to a statement issued by the BLM, their primary reason for ceasing operations is because of safety concerns.
“Based on information about conditions on the ground, and in consultation with law enforcement, we have made a decision to conclude the cattle gather because of our serious concern about the safety of employees and members of the public.”
“We ask that all parties in the area remain peaceful and law-abiding as the Bureau of Land Management and National Park Service work to end the operation in an orderly manner.
The “information on the ground” is that there are thousands of men and women standing by and that they were prepared to take action had it become necessary.
Though the government still maintains a court order for the rounding up of cattle, they have for the time being made the decision to walk away. This is not to say they won’t return in the future, but for today, the people are victorious.
Consider how these events would have played out had those who arrived to support the Bundy family not been armed; if they had simply showed up with protest signs and cell phones.
The end result would likely have looked more like this:
Rather than being tied up and pepper sprayed, the brave Americans who ventured to Bunkerville held their ground, 2nd Amendment in hand, and the government determined it was no longer in their best interests to pursue the matter.
A new day has dawned in America. One where the people see that real change can happen.
Activism really does work. This incident has proven that the Patriots and the militias are worthy adversaries. We have proven the power of social media and alternative news in the fight against tyranny. (Daily Sheeple)
The events of Bunkerville, Nevada show that the government, which so badly wants to control every aspect of our lives, can be defeated and sent packing.
Excellent news! Us – 1 Them – 0
I have been watching the Pete Santelli live stream all morning. There is power in The People. Our voices heard.
NOMI
CATI
….be safe….stay the course…BA.
I have a feeling in the pit of my stomach that this isn’t the last we will hear of this.
That said, I hope I’m wrong.
Something about taking measure.
Wouldn’t be much of a surprise if the lull is
only to gain time until the feds can mobilize
the National Guard. Shades of Kent State.
4 dead in OHIO
Neil Kornze smug arrogance is obvious. Does it make sense to find remedy against a tyrant and bully within the judicial structure that is owned and operated by that very tyrant and bully?
This is the core issue at hand. Commies supporting the BLM in the case make no sense whatsoever when they categorically claim that Bundy is wrong because of judicial rulings against him.
Where were the boot licking subjects when it was time to support Sadaam Hussein and his kangaroo courts of aggression against the Iraqi subjects? Oh yeh, they didn’t support him because they considered his authority illegitimate and against the rights of the people…hence the invasion. Sadaam was wrong and no one argues that, even Obama and Hillary who supported that invasion. But the same thing in America somehow is permissible and right to these folks. How is it different?
These non-elected bureaucrats are so far off the ranch (no pun intended) and out there in la la land that they’re drunk on their own firepower and defer to their own judicially controlled judgments to satisfy their back room corporate deals that hang the public out to dry (Harry Reid…I’m talking to you!). Typical propaganda to accuse Cliven Bundy of screwing the tax payer when its been the BLM usurpation of public lands that is at fault. Typically true of what corporate governance is now; they have re-polarized the truth 180 degrees the other way. Enough is enough.
Hurray to the people! Hurray for the Bundys!. Folks, this is not over yet. We must stand strong and united. These AHs and their propagandists will try to twist the story. It is time to stand up to the thugs and those officials who colluded with them by staying silent. Mark the names of the dog handlers and so called “Rangers”, even the officials who told the patriots gathered there that they should have their funeral arrangements prepared. He/they should be made accountabe and be made to eat their words. Publish their names and addresses. Reid and all the traitors should not be forgotten. Wise heads prevailed. We must learn from this experience!
A simple poll:
A thumbs “UP” in support of the Bundy cause.
A thumbs “DOWN” against the Bundy cause.
Don’t worry, Barry Soetoro’s warming up his drones.
the durango kidd says:
“If anyone thinks this is over with a Patriot win, they will be sadly mistaken.”
The durango kidd is a Fascist piece of shit! He is no friend of liberty, or of freedom loving Americans!
Why do you darken the pages of SHTFplan DK? Why are you here??
Why don’t you go suck your thumb on a some “progressive” site. Once there, you can mesmerize the sheep with the virtues of the “boot” and the “central bank.”
“””A couple hundred years ago some domestic terrorists got together and penned a Bill of Rights for a fledgling nation.”””
There is no such thing as a domestic terrorist, unless you speak of corrupted “government” officials.
Those who penned the Bill of Rights were freedom loving people who wanted to cover their ass from retaliation by the King through the misuse of the “new government”.
There is not a terrorist in this country that is not under a disregarded Oath to the People. What does that tell you about the value of COG plans where the People are concerned?
Be vigilant, the Gubbermint will fall back on its only tactic that it feels will work-psyops. It won’t b long before they write up a spin on this story that we will soon see all the LSM gov mouthpieces barfing out all across American television. They are going to portray all these “domestic terrorists” as having no regard for rule of law and responsible for jeopardizing the safety of all those good men and women of law enforcement. After that being said they will attempt to use this as more gasoline to throw on the fire of the gun grabber campaigns.
The problem is, no one listens to LSM anymore and their viewer base has made a mass exodus to alternative news to get the truth. Also no one takes our Gov seriously anymore, they are a complete laughing stock to not only Americans, but the rest of the world. Their reign over us is finished, they just haven’t been smart enough to figure it out yet.
Hey DK, what do think about those poll numbers?
Yea: 525
Nay: 14
LOL.
I suppose to your mind, the “majority,” are just a bunch of ignorant fools who have “it” all wrong!
Maybe you should re-think your position on voting DK; clearly in this case, your views have NO support.
Maybe we should just dispense with the ballot, and simply embrace the bullet. I’m certain you would approve… given your fascist proclivities.
Oops… I mean, 549 yea to 14 nay.
I doubt there are 14 “individuals” out there in SHTFplan land who voted “nay”.
I suspect it’s 2 or 3 trolls who’ve used multiple IP addresses to juice the “nay“ vote.
Prove me wrong.
If you voted “nay,” post yourself, and explain why!
Otherwise, I will stick to “conspiracy fact.”
YMWW: I could care less what the “poll” says. I am not looking for votes because I am not running for office; and if I were running for office and needed “votes” to be elected, I certainly wouldn’t be pandering to the lowest common denominator.
I am not looking for votes, fans, or followers. I have nothing to sell, and my thoughts and ideas are FREE. If anyone wants to ignore or reject them, I really don’t care. No money out of my pocket and I don’t measure my self worth by the opinions of others or “polls”.
What it shows me, and that in essence is all that I care about, is how badly informed the Alt Media Sheeple really are, and how important it is for me to present another perspective, as my time allows.
As I said before, my time here is limited. At the end of the month I am hopeful that a transaction I am working on bears fruit at last and I can move forward on my projects. Until then I will contribute as, and how I can.
Engage, My Peeps!!! 🙂
@the durango kidd
Oh he finally comes up for air!
Shit, I thought it was just your Sunday sloth??
You better get out to the local “WiFi hot spots.”
Fraud needs to be maintained.
Just ask the Feds.
the durango kidd says:
“I am not running for office.”
Who said you were “running for office?”
“I am not looking for votes.”
Yet you troll for “thumbs up” votes!
“I certainly wouldn’t be pandering to the lowest common denominator.”
A fine way to endear yourself to this community DK.!
“I am not looking for votes, fans, or followers.”
Yet you troll SHTFplan for them!!!
“…all that I care about, is how badly informed the Alt Media Sheeple really are…”
Your concern is touching, but you sound just like Hillary!
“As I said before, my time here is limited. At the end of the month I am hopeful that a transaction I am working on bears fruit at last and I can move forward on my projects.”
I have a tear rolling down my face… goodbye… goodbye.
It looks like the cowboys are the ones wearing the white hats who came in to save the day! What a sight to behold as they hearded them cattle back from the cattle thieves.
Cowboys have always been my heroes. It does my soul good to see the cowboys. They are no longer a figment of the imagination and of the past. Long live the cowboys! Long live the Bundys! Long live all the great ranchers in the West.
They baaaa-aaack!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Jer1YidkfPY
Looks like the guv’ment is backing down. Just proves that when there are enough ARMED patriots, bullies back down. It is a big difference when you have someone outgunned 100 to 1 held up in some cabin, and when the odds are equal. Thousands of armed militia vs. the feds. Guess whom wins. If the feds bring in the army or national guard you have a freaken war that will galvanize hundreds of thousands of others that fully support the Constitutiion. Could this be a preview of what is to come? BO might just start to stand for “backdowned oppression”. Russia and Putin are also watching, seeing that the U.S. is all talk.
All the U.S. government has to do is just follow the Constitution and the law orginally written and this debacle would never arise. It is when the U.S. tries to loophole and trash the 9th Amendment that prevents wrong interpretation of the Constitution it runs amok. Putting the 1st Amendment into a 25 foot by 25 foot box is lunancy and completely wrong. Simple, the Constitution is for everyone. All the government has to do is figure this one out and be part of it rather than against it.
Like Wrong says above, score one for the people today.
Just like forecasted of an earthquake between 6.8 and 7.9 from New Guinea to the Soloman Islands and Loyalty Islands, another huge earthquake just hit 20 minutes ago of 7.6 to 8.3. The seismic stations are going nuts with this one. For two weeks I have been warning of this region was going to get whacked. The precursor earthquake activity was off the scale for the Australian plate. By the way Alaska and the Pacific Northwest are still in danger.
To Wrong,
You’re wrong, end of round one. If you think the Gov. just walked away you are terribly naive. They cannot and they will not allow this to stand. They are going to come in the night and seize these people and slink away like they did with that Cuban child in Miami. They will leave the area and leave the local law to clean up the mess.
et in gloria aeterna Dei
This is wonderful news – that the BLM have backed down and left! I pray this situation has been resolved.
However, my gut feeling questions if they are not leaving, but “regrouping”. Have they lifted the “temporary flight restrictions” in the area? Will they wait until (most) supporters return home to their families for Easter? I would be on alert at least through this coming weekend. (April 19th)
I believe BLM won’t give up so easily on their money making schemes. Have they already received payments from the Chinese for the $5 billion solar plant they planned to build on “public land” in Nevada?
It was reported two weeks ago that “The Bureau of Land Management had just cashed in with $1.27 million in oil and gas leases in Nevada.”
-Shale Reporter dot com
3/14/13 – “Buyers snapped up 29 federal land leases totaling more than 56 square miles in a northeastern Nevada area.”
“U.S. Bureau of Land Management geologist Lorenzo Trimble tells the Las Vegas Review-Journal the Elko County oil and gas leases sold Tuesday for $1.27 million to six different companies.”
“The Review-Journal reports the project would be the first in Nevada to use hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, to extract oil and gas from shale deposits..”
http://m.shalereporter.com/industry/article_0de547ba-8ca4-11e2-ab4e-0019bb30f31a.html
BI,
How long until earthquakes chain around to Oregon? Or is plate pressure relieved, by quakes happening elsewhere?
How does this effect Yellowstone, if at all?
@ JustMe. This was the easiest earthquake prediction I have ever did. For past two weeks the precursor earthquakes from before had New Guniea and the Soloman and Loyalty Islands over and over getting hit with major earthquakes. One of them was 10 out of 15 times. This was shooting fish in a barrel and why I kept warning everyone that very large earthquakes were coming. I would like to take a lot of credit for getting both earthquakes dead on, magnitudes and everything, but this was too obvious and anyone could have come to the same conclusions with the same data I had.
Here is the kicker. Along with New Guinea and Soloman Islands the other areas that showed high tension was Vanuatu, Nicaragua that had a 6.6, Japan, Philippines, Mexico but especially ALASKA. I would say the Pacific Northwest is also in this target as oregon and Northern California is on this arc of the plates.
I would say until April 24 the area from California to Alaska’s Aleutian Islands remain very hot and dangerous. The Nazca plate hit the South America with a 8.2 this is turn affected the Cocos plate, 6.6 in Nicaragua. The African plate has been stressing out the Austrailian plate and Arabian plate. Greece to western Pakistan are still in danger also, including Iran and Turkey. This is turn affects the Pacific plate that is the Pacific Northwest, California and Alaska. If you can get to April 24, then the odds will improve a lot that a major earthquake bypassed the region this time. The planet right now is recoiling from the 8.2, 7.3, and today’s 7.6.
I would say the worst period of earthquake chance for this area would be Monday or Tuesday with the Full Moon that is coming based on the lining up of the Sun and Earth with the Moon, but also the distance. This is based on the information from the Foundation for the Study of Cycles that states that west coast earthquakes tend to occur more towards the apogee. The apogee for the Moon was April 8. The Moon will be about 390,000 KM away which is the breaking point for the sharp increase in earthquakes here. 390,000-406,500 KM away is when the earthquakes increase dramatically. I though at this point based on precursor quake activity would be on high guard until April 24 at least. More precursor quakes should tell in the coming hours and days.
Hey B.I. 4.9 in Idaho today as well, no mention of it anywhere yet, except on RSOE map.
@ 006. Idaho is very mountainous, and is still quite tectonical active. Anyplace there are mountains, there are earthquakes. 4.9 is not too large. It is interesting to note that the earthquake down in the South Sandwich Islands a little while ago occur in the same spot before in 1983 that the 7.0 in Idaho followed soon after. These precursor quakes sure point out high tension areas from past records.
Here is more on earthquake activity in Idaho that you can read:
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/states/idaho/history.php
I realize why everyone is celebrating, but can’t we get a picture without some yahoos representing the peope? A few of the guys in the picture look like they’re happy to belong to a cause, any cause! Just another form of sheep. Maybe somebody can photoshop the clowns on the far left and far right out of the picture? And I hope that these aren’t the guys that some are saying were heavily armed!
Thanks BI, as always.
I too believe that this situation in Nevada is not over by a long shot. What I think we may have witnessed is the beginning of the end. Has anyone here ever seen the U.S. government back down like this in recent memory? The answer to that is no.
The problem with a militia is that it is not funded by the American taxpayer. The US government is. How often can the militia’s men and women be expected to travel across country to do what they have done? Not near as much as the government can.
What you can now expect from the government is quick, illegal and ruthless actions taken before the protectors of our rights can gather. This is going to get real ugly. The 1st American revolution or 2nd Civil War, however you see it, just got physically started. You haven’t seen nothing yet!
BigB
Push comes to shove..every time..
Remember that things will go further awry after this incident…
Except for Drudge and the usual alt media..this entire episode/standoff was off the grid on all msm..deliberately.
Expect the best
Prepare for the worst
It is yet to come
possee
They’ll be back with Hessian troops…
It’s the British way…
We need to remember that the Organic Act of 1916 which developed the national parks and land management, was designed to secure collateral for the same interests that own the Federal Reserve (created only three years prior). The orders for the next move by the Feds will come from those who believe that land is theirs via our last bankruptcy as a nation. This goes way deeper then you’ve been told. This Harry Reid / China BS is purely hype and pre-war agitation.
This is a temporary win; they’ll be back. Watch out for a wild fire, or poisoned well water, sniper killing or whatever evil way they will take the Bundy’s land. Harry Reid’s greedy family also wants the land, in addition to the BLM for income. They are only going away until the armed militia leaves.
Theyll raid their home in the middle of the night after everybody goes home, vigilance will be very important.
“And one of the heads receives a deadly wound”
The backing down by the Federallys in Nevada, is a sign or precursor of what is to come in the near future.
When the NWO is in it’s finalizing stages of ram-rodding it’s one world system upon the people, the “united ones”, or citizens militia, will stand up again and defeat the beast/NWO from taking over here in America.
That is the deadly wound spoken of by John. The good people standing up for what is right. Standing up against tyrants/bullies/con men of the likes of liberal politicians. The Reids of this world had better take notice; because the common folks in America are mad as hell and aren’t gonna take their cronyism bull shit anymore. We are wiser than those DC serpents and see thru all their tactics to impose their New World Order crap upon us.
When they realize there are 1000 times more of us then them; they back off. They will ultimately call upon their leader, ole Lucifer, Antichrist to try to put a “fix” on things so they can carry on with their NWO agenda. It won’t work in Israel or Jordan, nor will it work in America the Brave.
Um… hasnt the NV governor weighed in on this? Out of statte guard without invitation by the governor would be a federal gmnt act of war against nevada. Andfrom the governors words – if the NV guard gets involved, they would likely be there to protect the rancher.
If I was Bundy, I would be trying to keep some of those militia members at the ranch. I’ll bet a dollar to a doughnut the feds make a predawn SWAT raid on them.
Mich, you hit the nail on the head. This group is all about smoke & mirrors. Watch this hand, while I steal with the other. Have heard they didn’t really leave state so I take that to mean, they are re-grouping which is not good.
I’m guessing the gov used this as a test bed once they realised that folks were pissed! You can rest assured that they took notice once the Militia turned up though.
Thankfully another Ruby Ridge didn’t occur at the Bundy Ranch, but what happened these last few days has galvanized the entire Nation. The fuse has been lit. People have started to believe in the possibility, that collectively, if they stand together, they can oppose the aggressor and push back just as hard.
It would not surprise me in the least, if we see a surge in Patriotism. Not a surge of recruits for the Military like WWII to fight for Freedom. But rather a surge of citizens joining Militias across the country to assert Freedom in defiance of tyranny. Like I said, the fuse is lit. There’s no turning back. We are all Cliven Bundy’s and if we want the Change that o’bummer promised then it’s up to every individual now to play their part, any way they can, to bring about the changes WE want.
The most powerful image I’ve seen for years ….. Was the picture of the Militia guy on the bridge with a rifle, trained on the BLM as they stood in the way of the folks on horseback. That summed everything up for me. He wasn’t prepared to fight for freedom, he was prepared to defend the freedoms of his countrymen. And that my fellow countrymen should be the motto.
NY Times Confirms: Israeli Lobby Controls American Lawmakers
A revealing insight into how “right wing” and “left wing” Zionists work has come with the open admission by a leading Jewish journalist in the New York Times that American lawmakers do whatever the Israel lobby asks them to do in order to garner Jewish votes and campaign donations.
The astonishing admission—a reflection of the fact that their control is so secure that they can admit such things in public without real concern that they will be challenged—was made in an article written by New York Times foreign affairs columnist Thomas Friedman called “Let’s Make a deal” and published on November 19, 2013.
In his piece, he also openly admits that there is an “alliance” against “Protestants of America”—which of course, in politically correct terms, means European-Americans.
“The Middle East once again proves that if you eat right, exercise regularly and don’t smoke, you’ll live long enough to see everything, including a day when the Jews controlling Jerusalem and the Sunni Saudi Custodians of the Great Mosques of Mecca and Medina would form a tacit alliance against the Shiite Persians of Iran and the Protestants of America,” he wrote.
“Diplomats and ministers from Israel and the Israel lobby have been working Congress, while officials from Arab Gulf states have been telling the Obama administration directly the same message . . . Never have I seen Israel and America’s core Arab allies working more in concert to stymie a major foreign policy initiative of a sitting U.S. president, and never have I seen more lawmakers — Democrats and Republicans — more willing to take Israel’s side against their own president’s.
“I’m certain this comes less from any careful consideration of the facts and more from a growing tendency by many American lawmakers to do whatever the Israel lobby asks them to do in order to garner Jewish votes and campaign donations.”
“Left wing” and “right wing” Zionism therefore have exactly the same objectives: the maintenance and interests of the ultra-racist state of Israel. This remains their prime concern and objective.
HEAD’S UP: All You Aussies “down under” the very same infectious incidious germ devestating usa Polititions, has also been Very Activly Infiltrating Austrailian Polititions also!
“Israeli Lobby Controls Australian Foreign Policy” – Former Foreign Minister Bob Carr
Full Article is at www dot davidduke dot com/israel-lobby-controls-austrailian-foreign-policy-former-foreign-minister-bob-carr/
These “official” should be ashamed of themselves. Their families should be ashamed of them. And the American People should question the wisdom of allowing them to continue on in their jobs.
Something tells me that the corps mindless minions are disappointed they will have to leave without getting to kill some of us. I doubt they even consider the possibility that THEY might die instead, and will likely not consider it until some of them do.
GC, let some of these SWAT teams start getting defeated and suffering multiple casualties along with THEIR own homes being raided in turn, then we’ll start seeing an end to all of this crap. LE relatives are no less vulnerable to violence than the rest of us. The people have won this battle, but there is another battle coming. The feds won’t give up without a fight. It’s going to take them suffering multiple casualties to give up.
renegade,
YUP needs to happen!!
This was just round 1.
These federal pigs are poor losers. Stay alert folks and dont let your guard down
I agree. Things that are personal make the most impression. Keep tabs on those goverment employees and police that live near you. If they start stuff against the good people of this country,then it just may be time to make sure you *visit* that neighbor.
RB,
Read book entitled “Molon Labe” (Boston Tea Party) fictional book shows what can happen when free people retaliate on thugs where they live, travel, eat, recreate, etc. Evil doers can be found. Hope it never has to come to that. It all depends on how far the guberment wants to take it… Many concerned citizens dressed in blue jeans and T-shirts with ball caps or cowboy hats may not look like they are capable or equoipped to move against guberment and their contractors. There are a great many citizens who are just as well trained, with warfare experience, tactical training, and capacity in arms to bring the fight to them. These citizens, when having done all to stand for liberty begin to act, because of a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security, the thugs will become the focus of their sights…
Molon Labe!
Hi Braveheart:
Sorry to ‘hijack’ your comment but I had to come clear down here to thank Pissinwiththewind for his post. I still do not understand why some comments are immediately shut off for the ability to reply to them while other ‘soft’ posts and replies go on and on. I have my suspicions, however…
Hope you are having a good weekend Braveheart and once again thanks Pissinwiththewind for your great post. Eyes to see and ears to hear, PWTW, you have been blessed with both!
@POG
I think it has something to do with the nesting of the comments. After enough replies to replies to replies you don’t get to make another child reply.
By now some of you have seen the Chinese Ried connection story. Our entire government is dirty. There is no legal way to fix this.
Natcho momma
harry (pinky ) Reid is one of the most corrupt govt people we have to date
every one needs to write to him and tell him its time to retire or WE will help him Retire
send letters to him
and these two gutless wonders
Dean Heller ( the spineless wonder
Brian Sandoval Gov of nv and one who green lighted the every Illegal Mex gets a drivers license Program in NV
Reid is supported by every Mexican in NV legal or not
they drove bus loads to the polls to help vote him in
The unions in NV held training sessions to show the Non English speakers what lever to pull and what Box to check on there ballot.
and then told them if they liked there jobs and wanted to keep them they better vote how the union told them
he cut school programs to keep the Mariachi music program alive to hell with books and such but keep the illegals happy and playing there god awful music
exactly.
i’m sick and F-ing tired of hearing how Bundy (and ranchers) are leeches for not paying the grazing rights.
for what it’s worth: if they pass that cowfart methane tax, I will not comply, and though i don’t have land that is slated to be an energy source, when they SWAT raid and kill my family and seize my cattle the sheep can console themselves with “they were tax evaders” because I didn’t pay my cowfart tax.
I don’t believe in eating cows… but this almost gives me cold chills– the idea that “the People” finally confronted this corrupt government and are victorious (at moment).
Anonymous, I’ve been a meat-eater all my life and will be for the rest of it.
Nothing like a grilled medium-rare hamburger smothered in onions…dripping juice onto the plate. I LOVE AMERICA!
If Any MSM TV News shows show any of this fiasco the likley guy msm tv will choose to highlight in a negative and bad way will probobly be that beer belly guy at Far left of top photo. Hes the Perfect choise for tv to call him a beer swilling skin headed multi tatood Raayysssiiis!
And also a white seperatist nazi gun owners etc etc .
Am wondering if any tv reporting will be done? I spoke on phone to a few folks so far since yesterday, and all said they seen nor heard any mention at all on any tv news yet about this event.
Unlike a busload of protesting chicago ghetto rats with Al Sharpton as bus driver and leader…THAT would make Live 24/7 tv news Globally!….I saw just ONE Tv news station even mention this event which was yesterday morn on RT tv news. Even then the woman on RT wss that Far leftist chick whos main concerns seemed more for the endangered turtles than the actual main event.
Only when TV news can spin spew any event as such into bad and negative results is it reported any more.
DISCLAIMER: I do not look at that chubby Tatooed guy in the same light or negative way. I am just saying thats How TV news always portrays any white males that happen to look like him. He just “Fits” the MSM profile they have used for 50 yrs to propagandize americans into thinking the way MSM desires folks to think of white males etc.
It is this type of thinking and posturing BHR that will ultimately lead to our destruction. Drawing arbitrary lines in the sand because of some perceived right you imagine you have, is just plain ignorant. In your example, your perceived dominion over the creatures that possess the meat and life that you are comfortable taking from them, is no different then the attitude that the sick fucks that run this planet have towards you. The most I can usually get from people like you is… “well, too bad… I like “my” meat and that’s not gonna change!” Wow… profound.
Anon I’m with you, I prefer venison, elk and Antelope. Cows have a Tame Taste that I can’t get use to. But if somebody will buy it, I can be forced to eat it. As my Son use to say back in Missourah, you don’t see people running around trying to give away beef steak or hamburger, like they did deer meat. Wonder why! Trekker Out. Semper Paratus!
Ideally, we could all learn to eat bison, plus use the rest of the animal in its entirety.
The only thing these alien cattle species are good for, is compacting soil, destroying waterways, and killing native vegetation.
To really stand up to the bankers, reintroduce the species who are best suited to this land and allow them to roam the plains once more. This means wolves, bison, and the natives who follow them and coexist with them.
Contrary to what pointy head environmentalist tyrants say, the land needs a population of large apex predators to flourish. Any American should be free to “go native” provided he do so in a manner that respects live and let live with his more sedentary rural and urban brethren.
I can agree with you, but the reality is that there are just too many people these days for any large number to try and live off the land.
We already have an excessively large number of apex predators in America, most of whom call Washington D.C. home.
They already ‘reintroduced’ the wolves at taxpayer expense along with a bunch of bonuses for the commie bastards that did it.
The reintroduced wolf was not native and carries several types of diseases that were injected before they were “stocked.”
As for the rest of the of the native animals…They don’t give a fuck about them.
All these know it all pos who “have your best interests in mind” are going to bring around the most intense ass- kickings that man has ever experienced.
I can’t wait…no one lives forever.
“don’t go down without one helluva fight”
It Seem the Only Animal Left on the Endangered List is the White American Male!!
Semper Fi
I don’t think you’re wrong, unfortunately. Am sure Barry will double down on efforts to jail patriots and confiscate guns. He’s going to throw a huge temper tantrum because he lost a power grab, and become even more unhinged by possibly losing millions of dollars if the Chinese, Harry Reid and his Demon Spawn don’t get to embezzle every asset in Nevada. What is Nevada going to do about this pestilential bastard and his thieving ways?
Fuck barry and his band of dickheads
When one add’s Nevada + Harry Ried the most Probable actual Hidden Hand pulling Harrys strings will be attached to Vegas’s Casino Mogul and neocon $$$$$ Cow, Sheldon Adelson. Dual-citizen whos main Loyalty is Other than america. After making his mark in Nevada by becomeing the biggest funder of various neocon Pols, its likly Shelodn is now The main number one string puller of that entire state. If not, then hes definatly in the Top “Few” controler positions. I bet hes also heavily funding several Lib kommie dems like Harry also.
Thats a Key component to their controls, by always funding BOTH sides so no matter who wins elections, they get to keep pulling strings forever. Or untill Ten to twenty Million more american “militia” types gather as One group to end such controls.
vicky
those of us with any guts are trying to rid the USA of Harry Pinko Reid and his Obammy monky boy
we try to expose him for what he really is and that’s a back stabbing fake Mormon who has had his hands in more pockets then any one else ( except teddy Kennedy )
vicky
write letters and explain how disgusted you really are with Harry Reid
write to Dean Heller and Brian Sandoval Gov of nevada
Dean Heller
8930 West Sunset Road
Suite 230
Las Vegas, NV 89148
Phone: 702-388-6605
Dean Heller D C office
324 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Phone: 202-224-6244
Brian Sandoval Gov
State Capitol Building
101 N. Carson Street
Carson City, NV 89701
Phone: (775) 684-5670
Fax: (775) 684-5683
tell them how tired you are of Harry Reid making the USA a laughing stock and you as a citizen of the United States demand that Harry Reid be brought up on charges of corruption
Maybe if they get enough letters from other states then Maybe just Maybe something will get done
Skittle shittin unicorn
That’s because this is not the end of this.
Even IF BLM and the FEDs do stand down, WE SHOULD NOT. Some high level heads SHOULD ROLL FOR THIS, starting with Harry Reid and the entire chain of command to the BLM dept heads. We should stop nothing short of that goal.
I posted several links to yesterdays story to articles from across the entire country—THIS IS NOT THE ONLY LAND GRAB—IT’S JUST THE ONE THAT DIDN’T WORK OUT SO WELL.
I’m posting those same links here in a minute.
This isn’t over.
Exactly how far is Harry Reid’s Nevada office from Bunkerville? Next stop? Why not?
Isn’t the only reason the BLM backed down is because it was discovered Harry Reid is involved?
Once the mid-term elections are over and Nevada re-elects Reid, Reid and the BLM will be back in full force and will take over the ranch IMO.
Well then, those of us who couldn’t go to Bunkerville and hold the line, we have our work cut out for us, huh?
Now it’s OUR TURN to contribute.
It’s officially “Get Rid of Harry Reid Season”
Here’s my question for today:
I’ve never had a drone mounted, so would I have to take it to a taxidermist or a mechanic?
Sixpack
his NV office is in Las vegas federal bldg with courts and such.
Bunkerville is about 80 miles or so North of Las vegas
he was born in Searchlight and that’s east by lake mead and the Hoover dam is about 30 miles i believe from his house
Waste of time as he is never there. He lives in DC at the Ritz Carlton which costs more for a week than most people make in a year. Wonder who is picking up the tab? Of course when you are as high up as he is getting actual cost plus reimbursement is a snap.
I left out the Bundy links for the sake of space
Land grab in New Mexico http://www.wnd.com/2004/02/23192/
Land grab in Utah http://www.suwa.org/herbertslandgrab/
Land grabs in Florida http://www.libertysentinel.org/article.php?id=LandGrab
Land grab protests in Nebraska and South Dakota http://dakotawarcollege.com/sd-state-senator-protesting-federal-land-grab-across-6-counties-in-south-dakota/
Land grabbers in congress http://netrightdaily.com/2012/03/senate-transportation-bill-funds-more-federal-government-land-grabs/
Land grab in Montana https://www.cfact.org/2010/09/27/federal-governments-land-grab-faces-growing-resistance/
Land grabs of Obama Admin http://www.propertyrightsalliance.org/obama-administration-makes-attempt-seize-millions-a2892
Land grab in Texas http://misguidedchildren.com/domestic-affairs/2014/04/red-river-rumble-blm-wants-to-seize-90000-acres-of-texas-ranchers-land/18596
Land grab in Wyoming (in court now) http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jan/12/pendley-the-us-forest-service-land-grab/?page=all
…………Other related info:
Arizona 72,688,000 acres with federal seizure of 30,190,227 acres or 41.5-percent
of the land area. Leads the nation in copper production and non-fuel mineral
production.
California 100,206,720 acres with federal seizure of 44,689,648 acres or
44.7-percent of the land area. California has vast untapped gold reserves and mercury
ore.
Colorado 66,485,760 acres with federal seizure of 23,904,445 acres or 36-percent of
the land area. Colorado produces 60-percent of the worlds supply of molybdenum
and contains oil shale that contains five times more oil than all the worlds oil reserves
combined. Also has considerable gold and silver reserves.
Montana 93,271,040 acres with federal seizure of 25,688,895 acres or 27.5-percent
of the land area. Montana is rich in gold, silver and vast, shallow coal deposits along
with millions of acres of timber and grazing land.
New Mexico 77,766,400 acres with federal seizure of 26,325,860 or 34-percent
of the land area. New Mexico leads the nation in the production of potash and in the
production of dry ice from carbon dioxide wells.
Oregon 61,598,720 acres with federal seizure of 31,930,738 acres or 52-percent of
the land area. Oregon leads the nation in reserves of standing timber, timber
production, plywood production, nickel production and the greatest profusion of agates
for gemstones.
Texas 168,217,600 acres with federal seizure of 2,346,012 acres or 1.4-percent of the
land area. (The land seized by the federal government seems small, but is greater in
area than the entire states of Delaware and Rhode Island). Texas leads the nation in
helium production, sulphur production, petroleum refining, asphalt production, cotton
production, and produces the most chemicals from seawater.
Utah 52,696,960 acres with federal seizure of 33,258,253 or 63-percent of the
land area. Utah leads the nation in the number of useful minerals found, and produces
petroleum, coal and copper. Much of the federal holdings have been designated scenic
areas.
Washington 42,693,760 acres with federal seizure of 10,272,658 acres or 27-percent
of the land area. Washington provides 10-percent of the nation’s timber needs and
30-percent of its hydroelectric power.
Wyoming 62,343,040 acres with federal seizure of 30,206,194 acres or 48-percent of
the land area. Wyoming holds the largest coal reserves in the nation and the
country-side is dotted with oil wells.
Sign a petition to Congress http://www.petitiononline.com/lg2/petition.html
Excellent post six
Got some reading to do now
Sixpack: Your state’s resourses listings Proves that indeed it IS us here in America that have recieved ALL of the Abrahamic Blessings that are material type blessings in nature. Which also Proves that whats written in new testement book of Galatians 3:29…
“And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed and heirs according to the promise.”
Is Also not only True, but obviously all of the material blessings of said resources, waters, streams, Vast farmland mass etc etc have already BEEN Fulfilled as Promiced to be…Which proves also that all of the Many pastors that keep insisting that NONE of said promiced blessings have yet been done or fullfilled and are ALL waiting for some “Future” time, to be given to jewish folks or state of israel etc are simply as wrong as can be. Either they are all wrong based upon personal Ignorance of truth biblically etc…OR…They are Falsifying what they teach based on a distorted view or ideals of the peoples we Now have confirmed are Khazars, and have ZERO mentions biblically of Any such promiced blessings from God or anywheres else eh!
One look at that Long List of the tremendous resources and prosperity and wealth from such many huge resources, when compared to every other nation worldwide and none can deny that indeed God has blessed Americas Lands, all 50 states with more prosperity and vast resources than any place on earth bar none. Hence we should all be very Thankfull to God, as well as do whatever it takes to cast off and away the current crop of usa destroyers, and various polititions, orgs, think tanks and groups or sub-groups that continue to Shut down, Tie up, and basically have Halted most every means we had or have to USE our Blessings aka resources as our Ancestors and Fathers once did, and that Is what created such massive wealth and prosperity as well as individal opportunity for Every American legit citizen.
There simply is NO valid reason that americans cannot once again continue to Propser Mightly, and even prosper greater than ever before due to modern day High Tech when combined with such vast resources..Its so obvious that all the Halting in most every sector of Oil, Timber, Chemicals, Precious metals etc etc has all been done ON PURPOUS!….By Design to cause Middle class americans, and mainly the huge white majority to get turned into worse losers than any of todays 3rd world folk.
Every incident like the so called endangered turtles swindle this weekends events shows…Only go to prove further that every such scam in past 50 yrs was done BY scheeme, design, to destroy Our combined prosperities and wealth abilities, and LOCK it ALL Up for Later use and ownership by a small Few. A Handfull of scammers, scheemers, and swindlers who care only for themselves and Money period.Even at the full expence of all the rest of americans…That vile evil vicious Bunch would shed Zero tears if by their machinations, all of the Other 300+ million americans died off…Those so evil ones would smile and count it as “All Theirs now and nobody to stop Them forever!”
Our Boomer gen and the one after boomers should see how obvious it is that the Job to restore to Us whats Rightfully Ours, is in fact Our Job to acomplish. While we all are still here alive too!
Don’t forget Alaska
Who could forget Alaska? Got a link to post? Please do.
ZOG at work all over the USA. Thanks for the posts.
Dam right it’s about our national mineral and resource base being auctioned off by the same people who took our homes.
That mother fer at the head of BLM needs to be hung by his balls and covered with scorpions.
Actually, there’s a governor, several commissioners and locals between the BLM peon and Senator Harry Reid, who is at the top of the pile…If it was me, I’d start much higher up than the peons.
BTW, about 10 minutes after I subscribed to the Bundy email/sms updates web page, (the link I left on SHTF) MY YAHOO EMAIL STOPPED WORKING. The only other thing I’ve done out of the ordinary is left many comments about the Harry Reid/ Bundy Ranch issue on many yahoo comments. Either one might have caused yahoo to slow me down—but yahoo can’t stop me by attacking my inbox.
I have had to LITERALLY hack into my own email in order to check my emails…not one update from Nevada among them, as I figured.
I may be changing my email address. After over a decade as sixpack6t9, I might have to abandon my moniker. I’ll let everyone (who cares) know what it will be changed to.
I’m no anonymous hit-and-run poster.
Sixpack: I emailed u yesterday. Did u get it?
LSB:
Would love to talk to you.
My second e-mail is [email protected]. Leave your middle initial there and come back here and leave it. I will then email you my regular email. I know we would enjoy corresponding and our location will make it easy.
I’m using my startmail address because my yahoo is still down.
sixpack6t9(at)startmail
granny, I think LSB may be having trouble with her email. No word here either.
Six: Mine is down also, has been for 2 days. Still not working the way it did.
River, are you yahoo and did you subscribe to the Bundy site? Or post any info anywhere? Remember the NSA is watching us for their pal, Harry.
I can get into my inbox but none of the links work and the mail won’t open either. You?
You need to get one from Glen Beck or a Regan email. I have my own email server with my own domains sitting behind a firewall that we designed and sell. They can try and attack my wall, but they would crash the local network before they got to me.
This is not over….and the FOX news report was not accurate.
PKLL
I’m wondering if perhaps there isn’t a plan to heavily entrench the Chinese in the Nevada area so that eventually begin to squeeze out west and east. There were reports of large groups of them planning on settling in north-west Nevada and also south-west idaho. BElieve I read that in Idaho they were wanting to set up their own city.
True story LSB. Just go to to ‘the Idaho Statesman’ newspaper and type in chinese city.
I did a post a few months back on this very subject.
S
The calm before the storm. They will not take being made to look like the punks they are lightly. This is not over by a long shot. When the Bundy supporters leave we shall see just what the game plan is. An accident on the way to town perhaps? A fall from a horse?
Maybe they’ll “Brietbart” him? …and the coroner too just like they did with Andrew.
I agree that the withdrawal was odd…and I also fear a change of tactics by the blm….do not claim victory as yet….there may be more to come, from different sources….be ever vigilant. I am heartened by the support given to this family in their time of need…and it reinforces my beliefs that we are in the end game together….
fob
Query: I learned Morse Code at a young age…but have not any experience with it utilizing mirrors….how difficult is it to learn? Thanks.
fob
Stig’s, you are right, this is just a lull, the BLM has already made it crystal clear that they will continue to vigorously pursue this matter in the courts, and with the way the courts have been stacked up in the past twenty or so years, this is going to be an uphill battle. Don’t put your guns away just yet.
BLM, is actually classified as an: “Agent of Foreign Principle”, under the
intergovernmental Personnel Act.
Yep.
Mac, you need to do a story on THAT FACT.
PKLL
PKL: We may have to do our own research on the subject. Hope not. Hope Mac does the article you are requesting.
POGranny:
I posted some facts on that a couple of days ago and I’m pretty sure I sent it to Mac: If he choses not to pursue, I’ll repost. If it is true, then (as I understand it) they have NO legal jurisdiction anywhere.
PKLL
the govt should be made to pay dearly for every cow of that mans that was killed, those you voted for wanted to steal the land for china, are you proud of your vote.
Speaking of Votes: READ Latest New article by, “Kelliegh Nelson” at newswithviews dot com website. Shes a TENN woman, and again has another Exallant article in Two Parts, of which only Part I is posted there as yet…Look for Part II next week…
Her New article outlines, details, Verifies and documents with Proof Links to other articles etc galore. Info on ALL the Current Advisors, and campaing leadership persons that are all involved with the Current crop of Top 4-5 GOP neocon 2016 US PREZ election contender hopefulls.
Rand Paul, Ted Chaz, Rubio, and Jindal and I think One more I cannot now recall name of(?)…THREE of which are NOT even a Natural Born Citizen so are Invalid as Prez or VP-prez candadits!
Wait till you see the List and Names of well known Establishment neocon clowns every single one has chozen or accepted as Their Main campaign promotors, advisors etc!
Her First mention is on Rand Paul who has picked BILL GATES of micro soft fame, as well as all sorts GMO Foods, Vacinations, Vacines to Steralize africans and Others, (Think You wont be included in that scam plan!) and a huge Host of corrupted affairs involving United Nations & AGENDA-21 crap. Plus Massive investments by gates to persue LAND GRABS etc as seen with Nevada Rancher guy.
Plus Rand Paul has also allowed several more Untrustworthy, swindler type persons to act on Rands behalf in his run for Prez 2016…The rest of the crop are as bad too.
TEA PARTY, Honest regular folk supporters and hopefulls have so Obviously been Used as Bait, Votes, Dupes and Usefull idiots same as Soviet kommies are Famous for doing with Their usefull idiots.
So Many tea party folks and others too donated tons cash, went everywheres in support, rain or shine, and what is end results?…I will Tell you what!
ALL current or former rand, Chaz, Rubio, Jindal etc supporters and donaters have been ROYALLY Shafted, and DUMPED off a Cliff, so all them Candidit “Darlings” that were supposed to FIX whats wrong in usa etc…have ALL Now turned coat, and Joined the regular usual bunch of Establishment repubs aka neocon swindlers. McCain has nothing on these new sen guys last elected.
If You belong to Tea Party and supported and voted for any of these clowns and swindlers?…Especially if You donated any large cash to any of them guys?
I strongly recomend You grab a Box of Kleenex to wipe away Tears if You plan to read Kellieghs new article expose’ of these scam artists named in This posting! Wait till you see the names of the tons of advisor staff etc they are allowing to run things!!!!…
This is One issue I Wish I weren’t vindicated as correct on, when I long ago posted of what scams these guys like Rand, Rubio, Chaz et al really are…I really Hoped I was 100% wrong and they’d turn out real swell, honest guys that meant what they stated to get votes and cash etc..
Her new article and a few Previous articles couple weeks ago about these TOP neocon Picks has vindicated me 100% as correct on all I wrote of them all prior and I sure wish it didn’t. If any need Live Links just ask, I hate to wait for moderation due to links when included….Newswithviews dot com should get ya there…READ Kellighs new article and some older ones also! She Will Open anybody closed eyes Guarenteed!
The Tea Party was hijacked. Rand Paul is no better than Reid or Mclame.
this is NOT over ! yes we won ONLY because the people made there voices heard!! NOW think about this people!!! what is going to happen when we cannot get the word out for all to unite?? we must find a way to keep lines open and start to repel the scum that is running this country and throw them out while we still can!! POWER to the PEOPLE!!!
Dirty deeds done in the dark of night with no witnesses. That is most likely how this will play out. Hope I am wrong. We have become the old Soviet Union. People just do not care as the majority of the population is now immigrants from countries where this behavior from govt. is the norm. Most of the rest are on some kind of stress drugs and would not care if they caught fire as long as their EBT card has some cash on it. America, land of the free stuff home of the knaves. USA! USA! USA! Chant the morons.
As a 27 year Law Enforcement veteran, I can tell you that what I saw in the video was very unprofessional and excessive force. The BLM Rangers are a bunch of wannabe cops who try to look the part. They had no reason to be there confronting those people. Any cop who has attened crowd control training knows that you must first announce an unlawful assembly order before using any type of force on the crowd. Out in the desert they could not issue such an order, there would be no cause.
As a K9 handler and supervisor I can tell you that the first thing they teach you about bite dogs is to NEVER use a K9 for crowd control. That stopped in the 60s when Bull Conners attacked peaceful civil righs marchers with police dogs and fire hoses.
The BLM fled the area when someone with half a brain realized they were illegally using force, unprovoked, on people who were simply yelling and pointing fingers.
A real police sergeant would of had his guys stand down and calmly went over and talked to the protesters, asked them to be safe, and left.
I would love to see the BLM try those thug tactics in the Ghetto. From my experience in the Rodney King riots they would have run home with their pants wet.
Oh yea, BLM snipers??? I can’t believe it! BLM Rangers should be disarmed and if they need help, call the sheriff.
R.L.
Damn!!! If those guys where on the SWAT team I was on and they acted like this, As their Sgt. I would have kicked their asses.
They should have talked the people. Not got the K9’s out and pointed TAZERS at them. WTH!!!!
I wasn’t there but what I saw was very unprofessional, these guys give good cops a bad name. Cops HA! these guys aren’t cops the just dress the part. People don’t understand this, and think cops act like this. Like I said these guys aren’t cops!
Those BLM guys were very lucky they didn’t get the shit kicked out of them for pointing tazers and knocking a female to the ground. I was waiting for one of them turds to pull a Flag out of some ones hands.
Its not over! Just a warning to the Feds. There had better not be anything happen to the Great folks in Nevada, and the Militia that came to help.
WE WILL BE WATCHING. DON’T PISS WITH US. YOU ONLY SAW A TIP OF THE ICE BERGE, THAT SHOWED UP. THERE IS MANY MANY MORE THAT WAS GETTING READY TO GO. IT WON’T TAKE LONG TO GET ON THE ROAD. BAGS ARE PACKED!!!!!!!
A.S.M.S.
Sgt.
Red Leader and Sarge, let’s also remember those are FEDS we’re talking about and we already know their mentality and that they are not to be trusted. I saw that video and wasn’t surprised but still disgusted all the same. Plus, the LE relatives in my family have never been anything like feds either. Let the BLM try their BS here in Memphis. There’s a neighborhood only 200 yards from my home that if they went rolling in there with their BS, they would be handed their asses to them on a silver platter. And God help them if they came to my place.
Sgt. it is easy for the gub to hire a bunch of dumb fucks with a 40 iq, tell them that they are leo, arm them to the teeth with gear with hard-earnings of the last of hard-working citizens.
Only place in the world that a bunch of shit heads can get a job that pays far more than most…being an enforcer for the US Gub.
The division has been going on for decades.
Stay safe brother…thanks for your comments.
Sgt. Dale, Renegade – et al: There is a Facebook posting going viral as we write. The “purported” pull back by the BLM is / was a ruse to gauge the response of the Nation as a whole to this event. Insider sources state that the Military utilized drones to eavesdrop on the communications and facial recognition systems were employed.
Stay alert…that Nevada rancher’s problems are far from over…and, sad to say, this Country’s problems are only beginning to get worse…
Be safe, watch your six, and for what it’s worth – your overhead…
Cat
You’re right. The FED thugs will be back. If not there, somewhere else. The response will have to be the same to these goons. The FED goons have been humiliated and they will want revenge. I believe the next confrontation will be the opening salvo of the Second American Revolution.
Maybe the feds learned their lesson from waco and didn’t want to have another bloodbath on the news?
In the long run he’s well and truly fucked. He has been grazing his cattle free of charge on our (American citizen’s public property) land. He has in fact been enriching himself at our expense by violating our trust. Yet another taker in a long list of them.
While the feds may have decided that an armed showdown wasn’t in anybody’s interest they will eventually get their pound of flesh + interest.
Nosuchuser, Bundy is NOT a welfare person, so go somewhere else with that lie.
looks like fbp to me.
If 4-5 million had went out there, then it would be a show of force, a few hundred is just a dog and pony show and the government backed off to pick a better time, some cold rainy night the ranch will be hit just like the place in Killian Texas, all over in an hour, nothing but ashes and the farmer will be blaimed
Shouldn’t have ended the story with that pic. Overall a victorious story.
Congratulations militia members you’ve just identified yourselves as targets. It was a false flag to draw out the possible future disobedient citizens.
If that’s true, they just showed the feds they are not to be messed with …if you ask me
so bring it
Dang it Mac, I sent out an alert hours ago from the Bundy Ranch about needing people to come back at the top here….where is it?
PKLL
PRAISE GOD !!!!!
Just got this mail from a friend who has had friends there for the last several days…
“We have several friends stuck in the traffic heading there and they have been passed by mobile tactical units and empty prisoner transport busses on the shoulder of the freeway. I am not optimistic that the BLM is actually backing down. About 25 miles from the ranch they are turning people around and have closed the freeway.”
It may not be over…
PKLL
Yea, was at the range this morning, 200 yds zero, decent groups, not my best but,,, chronographed velocities, entered data int my ballistic program not the best but im ready to blow holes in anything up to about 500 yds away,
100 heads still stands,
Beware the trojan horse.
You might want to tip that to Alex Jones, he has people on the ground there and they are getting word in and out.
That is something they NEED to know at ground zero.
Good idea six…I’ll do…
whomever thumbed down getting info to Alex Jones, you need to remember there is something going on here, more important than your hatred of Alex.
If AJ has the means to WARN patriots there of some possible disaster, through his people on site, then we should get the tip to him…put your petty issues aside and think about other people for a change.
…PS…Remind me not to have people like YOU on MY recon team…idiot.
So…those friends who had people there, were those the same friends who were reporting this ON THEIR WAY to Nevada, or were those different friends? They can’t be “there” and stuck in traffic (for several days) at the same time, can they? Please clarify.
Hey six….friends were there for several days reporting back….they had other friends who were trying to come up to support but were stuck in traffic and saw the prison buses and tactical vehicles racing along the road skirt to pass the stopped traffic. They (other friends) were turned away and told to go home because the Feds had closed the freeway.
Hope that makes more sense…
PKLL
Okay, my bad, thanks.
I cannot believe that anyone one would let the FEDS close the FREEWAY. Where are the Patriots? Somebody should have blasted their way right on through, the Freeway don’t belong to them. Now with the victory at the Ranch and the lose on the Freeway. It looks like (Patriots 1–Feds 1) This is getting interesting. Trekker Out.
Nice find MT…it is easy for the gub to find human drones when you can just print money out of thin air to pay for more of them.
They never come away with nothing in their treasonous forays.
Just consider the way they treated ninety year old veterans during the shut down. I would also bet that this is not over just a redeployment and better get ready for some real serious shit. I get the feeling that they are now so arrogant that shooting into a crowd would not bother them at all. let us hope that is not the case.
“Excellent news! Us – 1 Them – 0”
From the same corrupt group that first introduced us to their form of “shock and awe” in the middle east, I suspect your score only reflects the bottom of the first inning.
They’re just playing with us. Testing the waters. Experimenting. Militias are truly going to have to become “minute” men/women, to keep up with their strategies and tactics. All of America has become a War Zone. The “front” can break out anywhere. Wait till the bring the “”Big” guns out.
EA
I agree. I never said it was over just that we seemed to have “won” this round. I was pretty proud to see it all the same.
The NDAA gives them all the leverage they need.
To put it bluntly, the people are being hoodwinked into believing that the situation is being resolved. It is not. It is a strategic de-escalation to fool the public.
Date: Saturday, 12 April 2014
Time: 1840 ET
To: Steve Quayle
From Doug Hagmann
At 1750 hours ET, I was contacted by my source within the Department of Homeland Security regarding the current situation at the Bundy Ranch. To put it bluntly, the people are being hoodwinked into believing that the situation is being resolved. It is not. It is a strategic de-escalation to fool the public. This source stated that the retreat of the BLM agents and the release of the cattle was actually crafted as a potential plan yesterday (Friday, 11 April 2014) based on the following:
1. A military assessment of satellite and drone surveillance imagery of the “patriot resistance. Drones under the control of the U.S. military were in use, taking real-time photographic images of not just the activity at the ranch, but “identifying the protesters, any arms and any supplies they might have or be carrying. “Mission accomplished.”
2. Real-time communication intercepts between patriots on-site and their off-site support;
3. Active monitoring of internet traffic regarding the coverage of events at ranch;
4. The monitoring of real-time video from the scene.
This source stated that a response by the patriot movement was anticipated, although exceeded their expectations. Although this was a real operation, they also ran this as a test case for future government operations once they saw the response. They were also actively managing the media, in some cases threatening to cut off White House access to anyone covering the event.
Despite this, the coverage by the alternative media began to create a public relations problem that was not easily managed. Note the lack of acknowledgment by the White House regarding this event. They are intentionally framing it as a state issue, despite the fact that all federal response has been and continues to be from the White House. There is a reason for this – a reason that has not been identified in any of the public reports to date. I will explain in further detail in a follow-up report on Sunday, after this source attends [redacted] to obtain more specific information about future federal operations. Regardless, according to this source, the government will take back ‘their land’ as they must to fulfill international obligations. It was never about grazing rights or anything other than (1) “securing clear title” to the land, and (2) further demonizing any patriotic resistance. It is my understanding, based on the information from this source, that it is a critical task to create a situation that will also advance their agenda of gun control and confiscation.
A more detailed report will follow on Sunday, 13 April 2014, with additional and much more specific information about their inside plans and future operations.PLEASE MAKE THIS VIRAL!
Apr 12, 2014
EA,
This sounds plausible it follows standard battle field accessement it is apparent these types of operations are bing run as military type operations utilizing c3i ( command , control , communications and intelligence) . One must remember there still are Quality individuals working in the system that still are on the American people’s side . TPTB will be shocked when only out 5% of their force follow orders . I can state many will not fire on or go after the public we took an oath to defend against all enemies both foreign and domestic it means something.
They can put survailence on us as much as they want it will not change anything. We are everywhere their assets will be pretty tied up , they are only seeing what we want them to see.
They (TPTB) are stuck in the 1990’s idea of a milita , unfit backward etc that they try to categories us as . The thing is they are only seeing the tip of the iceberg , the new US citizens defense force is professional , well trained. ( tactical firearms , communications , small unit tactics ) and LAW ABIDING ( per the US constitution) quality people of good charactor it has a developing command and control element . Many participants are combat veterans , retired law enforcement, and by people who have done this professionally (high level armed forces command further information excluded for OPSEC) . with a concern of the direction our country is going.
What I am trying to say is there are citizens out there willing to act as a buffer between a government run amuck and out of constitutional restraint to prevent tradgeties from occurring.
In the beginning of this country community defense and aid was achieved by citizens soldiers from all walks of life banding together for the common defense of the community , as it states in the US constitution 2 admendment a well regulated militia ( well trained , well drilled citizens ) being necessary to the security of a free state ( citizens access to arms for defense , not a standing army answerable to no one at the local level , no one man can have the absolute power over all) the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed ( self explanatory).
What you saw yesterday is they way it is supposed to work and the reason for the second admendment. We are a government by the people and for the people , the whole American experiment is one of SELF. GOVERNANCE. The current regime in charge have forgotten this one point THEY SERVE US NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
Things are changing it will never go back to the status quo , eternal viligence will be required ..
The altmedia and citizen reporters kept the communication lines open it performed beautifully
( twitter , videos alt reporters ) to keep what was OCCURING on target when you actually show what is happening for all to see no rumors or propaganda can take hold , those responsible for this can take quite a bow your commitment was both groundbreaking and commendable. It was above and beyond the call off duty . Your are modern day Paul Revere’s .
There is more than meets the eye to what has been done but we have a long way to go but remember in the end
THEY LOOSE WE WIN
RESIST
III%
Semper Fi 8541
One proud Marine Today
OOORA
square on the head my friend . And thank you for what you have done and will do
It’s always a comfort to know that while I have someone’s six, there is some one who has mine and some one has yours…
So as always down the line we have no fear, that there is some one to back us or bury us with dignity…
We deserve no less… Godspeed to all.
EA, read that last night. I feel absolutely no emotion towards a govt that thinks it’s “toying” with it’s citizens.
I guess we’ll see who is toying with whom.
On a similar note, I was reading about another episode of the people trying to oust the new, unelected puppet govt in Ukraine. In the report as follows :
“Avakov already announced “zero-tolerance policy towards armed terrorists” in Slavyansk and the deployment of anti-terrorist troops in the city on Saturday morning. However no action materialized, as security troops reportedly refused to follow an order to attack protesters.”
I guess the Ukrainian SWAT equivalent had the sense to refuse to attack their own people, UNLIKE our BLM (and company).
Everyone keeps talking smack about Ukraine, but apparently, the FEDs could stand a few lessons from them on the issue of RESTRAINT and BLIND OBEDIENCE. I believe the BLM would’ve started shooting, had it not been for some unseen person calling it off. They are mindless attack dogs and nothing more.
I heard all kinds of initial talk about the idea of CHINA taking us over in the newest version of the movie “Red Dawn” and thought, well, somebody has to be the bad guy. The invading army was changed from Chinese to North Korean in order to maintain access to China’s box office.
Perhaps they should’ve taken the box office hit and left China in as the bad guy…it was apparently, more accurate.
Sounds like great news,the return of the “Minute Men” after 239 years.
I have 2 questions to ask
1)will this victory,on the part of the people,set a precedent for future grassroot actions against the abusive power of the government in Washington.
2)Will this dishonest deal by Harry Reid be investigated or will information about it be suppressed & buried by the establishment?
1. One can only hope this is the biginning of the fall of complacency
2. These political waste material and their followers and assistants ALWAYS supress and deceive
But WE NEVER FORGET.
Will this dishonest deal by Harry Reid be investigated or will information about it be suppressed & buried by the establishment?
Hot damn…investigated by whom?? They are all corrupt, evil snakes!!
Durango Kid will be so disappointed.
He must be changing his drawers right now…just give him a few minutes and he’ll be back.
THERE HE IS—DK!
Walt: I am not disappointed that no one was injured. I am disappointed that so many of you are blinded by your hate for OUR government that you refuse to recognize the real issue in Nevada:
A Lessee breaking his Lease with the Lessor, and then defrauding the property owner by grazing his cattle upon the property owner’s land.
That property owner is US. 🙂
Dk–go preach somewhere else.
I can’t find the link now, but I read one councilwoman reporting that 70% of her state was taken…who gains??
Not the tax payers, that’s for sure.
JayJay: I have the right of FREE SPEECH, or is that right reserved only for people who agree with you? 🙂
I do NOT favor the land grabs by the Federal government and the excessive use of “Monuments” by Presidents to withdraw the People’s land from the People in sympathy with Agenda 21. They already own or control most of the land in the West.
With that said, understand that once these vacant lands are returned to the State governments, corporate interests will be sucking them up like a sponge unless the People engage their employees at every level of government.
I donate to Public Lands For The People. Do you? 🙂
Let’s face it. It’s not at all hard to side with the rancher, being that his opposition is the Tyrannical Fascist System, here. However, DK has a point, that should not be overlooked. I pulled this comment from another site and it had the highest “thumbs up” rating of them all. (Just another perspective to consider).
“When I lived out west, there were lots and lots of ranchers, loggers and farmers who had an entitlement attitude. They characterized themselves as rugged individualist, but in fact gorged at the public trough. Subsidies for everything they got. All you had to do was to look at the houses they lived in and it became crystal clear. Scum bucket parasites.”
Again, I’m ready to see a peaceful or violent rebellion take place in this country to put a stop to a “government gone wild”. But to place the Rancher as the hero in all this is conjecture on our parts. Those who came to his aid, though, are clearly the real heros here. And that’s an inspiring relief for all of us during these dark times.
” All you had to do was to look at the houses they lived in and it became crystal clear. Scum bucket parasites.”” — sounds like jealousy to me. If you own several million dollars worth of land, run millions of dollars worth of beef, ya don’t usually live in a fucking shack.
I’ll bet he said the same thing when he drove by the ghetto—” All you had to do was to look at the houses they lived in and it became crystal clear. Scum bucket parasites.””
scum-bucket parasites my ass…my son is a logger in Oregon. He runs a crew. Has been logging for about 17 years. He hasnt gotten raises that he deserves. He drives the crummy full of other loggers sometimes 3 hrs one way to get to job site. No pay for that. He lost his house to the bank. Now he and family live in 2 RV’s. His wife works at costco. They live a very frugal life. So my advice to you is…don’t believe everything you read.
DK:
I donate to causes like Oathkeepers to keep my country free and support the constitution. Do you?
PKLL
Yes!!!
No. I don’t. But I don’t condone sending aid to 152 countries either.
If I had a choice of welfare moochers or countries that hate us and would think nothing of slicing our throats, I’d choose the welfare moochers.
At least they are our families, our neighbors.
And guess what??
I AM one of those persons that gives; but I choose to give within my community when someone needs a hand.
I believe in starting at home; therefore, I gave to the militia to help restore our freedoms, our right to protect our lands.
To-may-to or to-mah-to–it is still our land that needs protecting.
Arguing that Bundy owes fees does not take away from the theft of his cattle, the attempted theft of mineral rights that belong to Nevadans, and attempted theft of Nevadan land.
Bundy’s cattle were not being stolen. They were being EVICTED because after 20 years and numerous Court judgments against him, he refused to voluntarily remove his cows.
Sheriff Deputies in their respective counties evict people every day in America who refuse to leave the premises after eviction by the Courts. These deputies are armed.
Are WE to dispense with legitimate legal processes that keep a balance in society between commercial parties for the sake of one Rancher?
Bundy’s cattle should be confiscated and sold at auction as allowed by law. And guess what? They will be. More than that, the Manager of BLM should be fired for allowing this clusterfuck to continue for 20 years.
Rancher Bundy has had his day in Court several times. I suspect, but don’t know if that includes a jury trial. Notice that BLM hired contract cowboys to round up Bundy’s herd. If he had the support of other ranchers they would not have hired on.
I doubt that local Ranchers who do pay their grazing fees have supported him in his boycott of payment over the past twenty years. I don’t see a Cattleman’s Association in Nevada standing up behind Bundy claiming that the FED’s are out of line. Do you?
I also suspect and I am willing to bet, that other Ranchers are lining up to lease that land from BLM as soon as Bundy is removed from that Taxpayer property.
Do you believe that 157,000 ranchers who now pay grazing lease fees in America should have a FREE lunch? If so, how about miners, large and small? Can I take your opinion to BLM and tell them that US Taxpayers believe I should get my minerals FREE? 🙂
Sorry for sounding nasty above post.
Gee, DK, one has to wonder why legit law enforcement was not involved in this? I mean, it was the sheriff, standing with Bundy, that really called it off. Now, if this was a lawful action, does it seem normal that the sheriff would call it off?
…or are you still of the opinion that Clive does not own the land? Did you read any of the links I posted for you?
Do you understand what forage rights and water rights are in relationship to range fees? I truly hope you are getting a clue, but it really does not look like it.
Dk ,
You are missing the point this has nothing to do with grazing rights , it has to do with what happened. Police dogs , tasers etc on unarmed protesters , out of control federal agents ( BLS is NOT an armed service they we actually violating federal laws with the positioning of marksmens ( they do not deserve the Sniper title unless they earn the tab , Being a HOG you Marine scout snipers out there know what I mean ) on over watch . The real story is he was paying double for the same land both the state and BLS were contesting ownership of the land , the money paid was being kept in ecarow pending the outcome of a court decision , they just decided not to wait and went after the rancher instead . This is happening all over the country the govenment is changing the rules as they go and presenting it as the fact that the have authority over the state.
I would not be suprised if that ranger team is investigated by the Dept of interiors Inspector Generals office for their actions , it is obvious they incited the crowd toward confrontation then rapidly lost control of the situation ,the immediate supervisor in charge should be removed / suspended pending review of his actions , it would be interesting to obtain a copy of an after action report . The county sheriff should file a complaint , he should have been notified of an action taking place in his county , I really think the county should issue summons to the federal officers to explain why they did not follow required protocalls. EVEN DHS IS REQUIRED TO DO THIS BEFORE INITIATING ACTIONS on the local and state level , you must have permission when operating outside of your area ( non federal areas) last I looked the ranch was private property and rules apply to the county and state level ( LOCAL RULE) .
Semper Fi 8541
@the durango kidd
You’ve got it all wrong. You meant to say:
A Lessee breaking the Lease with the Lessor, and then defrauding the the Lessor (surface rights owner) with Agenda 21 tactics.
Isn’t that what you meant to say? No??
I thought you were opposed to Agenda 21 DK???
YMWW: I am very opposed to Agenda 21. The grazing rights issue in Nevada with Rancher Bundy is not an Agenda 21 issue. It is a business dispute between a renter and the property manager on behalf of the owner (US)
Bundy stopped paying his grazing fees, probably at the end of the year prior to renewal as fees are due every year by the end of the year. Therefore he did not renew his lease. No payment, no lease. Without a lease his cattle are trespassing.
You shoot trespassers don’t you? 🙂
DK….again I know this is pointless and like talking to the Old Guy but….
Can’t you pull you head out of your arse and see the bigger picture? This is not about grazing fees…..
PKLL
PKLL: Its ALL about grazing fees, or rather the lack of them, and for 20 years.
Where is the Nevada Cattlemen’s Association claiming that Bundy is being railroaded by the FEDs? Are they providing any financial support for legal counsel for this Rancher?
I doubt it.
In 1993 when he stopped paying grazing fees, Agenda 21 was just a gleam in Pelosi’s eye. Its ALL about grazing fees. 🙂
The fucking tortoise didn’t become an issue until 1998, FIVE YEARS after Bundy stopped paying grazing fees. But Bundy didn’t stopped grazing at the public trough!!!
This is not an Agenda 21 issue folks. Bundy is a crook!! 🙁
DK: “In 1993…Agenda was just a gleam in Pelosi’s eye..”
You are delusional and just hung yourself….Agenda 21 has been on a slow, steady train since the early part of the century…just called something else at the time. It’s ALL agenda 21 and has been all along…..
No need to reply, you have lost all credibility in my book….
PKLL
DK starts with the premise that the government’s claim to the land is valid.
WHL: That is MY fucking land, just because I said so!!! 🙂
DK,
In my state (and its WAY more developed than Nevada), if I find a spot of land, and continually do something to it for 7 years like plow it, build on it, park on it, drive on it, camp on it, with no opposition, etc, its mine.
Doubt me? Then you need to talk to the court house in the county next door.
The church that I attend has been in existence for about 130 years. If was moved to its current spot in 1920. After several years it was determined that we needed more parking. The neighboring land owner wasn’t using the land to the south. We asked if we could park on it. One thing led to another and today the area is a nice, white rock parking lot.
Over the years the land owner that allowed us to park there died, new owners bought, they sold, another owner who has no clue what has happened owns the land, so he thinks.
So the land next to the church was subdivided and the first lot south of the church had a house built on it. After closely examining his deed and his survey, new owner said we were tresspassing. It was his parking lot and demanded that we show a deed. Of course we cuold not. It was never deeded to us. We told the court house and they had no records of any permission or transfer, etc. After telling them the story the court house said the land is ours and the neighbor out of luck (and about a half acre). Under common law we now own the parking lot.
Theoretically, if the Bundy family has been using this land in a common law way (grazing cattle would qualify) for more than 7 years, the BLM can go pound sand.
Many things are this way. The government doesn’t like to admit it, but, all of its titles and laws are really bullshit. When it comes down to it, if we support Bundy enough it doesn’t matter what their color of law shitstains say. If no one has standing to oppose his claim, they are SOL.
The tortoise bullshit was for standing not for the environment.
I thought you knew this stuff? Is your business land? …and no, you can’t just “say” its yours for 7 years. You have to do something with it. You are embarassing yourself again.
NR: I understand the concept of Adverse Possession. AP does not apply in Bundy’s case. AP must be “open and notorious and continuous” in Arizona. It must also be uncontested.
Bundy stopped paying his grazing right fees in 1993. His continued use of the land for his cattle did not go “unnoticed” (open) by BLM and I am sure that the first Court case against Bundy occurred prior to 2000. That Complaint by BLM severed any time frame for Adverse Possession to succeed by a squatter (Bundy).
When he refused to comply with a BLM request to Vacate he became a Trespasser, and when he refused to comply with a Nevada Court Order he became a criminal. Bundy has brought all of this upon himself.
Unfortunately he has now dragged the Liberty Movement into his personal vendetta against the BLM, in a situation that the People cannot win because the legal issues are clear and align with the FEDs.
Let me remind you that there are 157,000 Ranchers in America who pay their legitimate grazing fees to the FED’s. Is that a “poll”? Are these Ranchers voting with their wallet?
It will end in the death of innocents on both sides for a cause that is neither legal nor just; and it will damage the credibility of the Liberty Movement. 🙁
Good evening, Yo Mama. DK has really disappointed me being so 2-faced. On one hand he’ll acknowledge that certain actions of government are wrong then on the other hand defend those same illegal and unconstitutional actions. he can’t see the forest for the trees.
RB: You disappoint me because you are so blinded by your hatred for OUR government (and with good reason I might add) that you cannot discern the real issue in Nevada and the SCAM that Bundy is perpetrating upon the Liberty Movement.
Rancher Bundy is not Rosa Parks.
When the Liberty Movement uses a PRETEXT in their quest for Freedom and Justice, then they are no better than the PTB who use False Flags and Euphemisms to advance their Agenda. Nevada is NOT a Constitutional issue. If you think so, explain how it is a Constitutional issue. We can debate that.
The issue in Nevada is a commercial issue. A business issue, plain and simple. Don’t get sucked into supporting a thief who is picking your pocket while he uses your patriotism for his profit.
Events in Nevada will not end well for Rancher Bundy and no one should make a martyr out of a thief when he is killed. Nevada is NOT Ruby Ridge or Waco where innocents were killed.
It would be like making a war hero out of Pat Tillman when he was killed by friendly fire at close range because he was too gung ho for the troops he led.
Engage your employees at every level of gvernment, but where the Constitution clearly supports your actions. 🙂
BH:
The dis-info trolls or completely stupid people are making me tired. I’m so tired I’m actually engaging with them….
I guess I’m the stupid one…
PKLL
PK,
Just ignore Old Guy and DK
They have their opinions and will argue them till after the cows come home,
They wont get it till its too late,
To that i say too bad so sad dont care!
I cant understand being ok with servitude.
Amen Kula…
PKLL, you’re NOT stupid. DK has been totally brainwashed by govt. He can’t see the forest for the trees. He’s the problem, NOT you. Your posts sound very good to me.
BH: Thanks….people here are making me crazy….see other posts at end of this thread, some good stuff.
I have sent ALERTS from the Bundy ranch this afternoon, they need people to come back and I can’t find them here. I posted them at the top….
MAC!!!!
I never meant that you wanted to see someone hurt. Don’t read into my statement more than is there.
I think you’re disappointed that the BLM backed off.
I think you need to realize that your precious government started this nonsense….and they started it years ago.
I’ve tried to educate you on what has been happening out west (and it’s been going on for over 20 years now), with the environmentalist-whacko groups using legalized extortion to force ranchers…and others off lands they have been on for generations.
But you’re having none of it.
To you…it’s just another financial transaction. And if the government uses dishonesty and trickery to accomplish their goals…..well then, that’s just too bad. Sucks to be the rancher.
This government does this kind of stuff every day to other Americans all across this country. (Again….watch the FOX special “Enemies of the State” for reference.)
Much of this has been because of legislation, but much of it has also been as a result of fiat regulations by alphabet agencies.
You always spout your mantra of “engage”.
Well….the Bundy family did just that. And you don’t like it nearly as much as you like to claim.
That’s why you’re just another government hack. Oh…you may not be employed by them, but somewhere along the line, you either derive your livelihood by something the government provides, or you have some other interest.
In any case….you are on the wrong side of this issue. And I find it particularly revealing.
This is why I say that there is a part of me that’s glad when these kind of events take place. Because it reveals who is really on the right side…and who just talks about it.
Walt: I don’t have any skin in the situation in Nevada. It is not a Constitutional issue. It is not a Freedom issue. It is a commercial issue. Bundy has successfully manipulated the deep resentment that the American People have for their government; particularly I think, people in the West, for his advantage.
Walt, do you think EVERY rancher in America (157,000) that leases land for their cattle to graze from US should stop paying those fees and continue to graze on Taxpayer land? Do you think it fair for a rancher to claim 300,000 acres of Taxpayer land as his own?
How about about miners, big and small? Do you think they should be able to develop these lands without paying any fees or royalties? Do I have your permission to claim all the land and minerals that I mine as my own and say “Fuck the American Taxpayer”?
Would that be fair and equitable to your mind? 🙂
And you still haven’t done the research on the REAL issues with western grazing and land use issues, have you?
Come back when you actually know what you’re talking about…or at the very least, have a look at NetRanger’s post farther down this page.
Walt: I have looked at NR post and have asked him to supply links to official documents that would support Bundy.
Bundy himself says he doesn’t own the land.
If he doesn’t own the land and if he had been making payments for grazing fees, then when he stopped making his annual grazing fee payment, he had voluntarily released any claim upon the land; unless NR can produce legal documents that evidence otherwise.
I also doubt that his Lease Agreement stipulates that BLM would cut roads, build fences etc as has been stated. These Agreements allow the Lessee to do these things but at their own expense and those rules require the lessee to inform the BLM of those activities. I know because I cut a road on BLM land for my mining operation at my own expense and with their acknowledgement.
Somehow I doubt that this guy owns the mineral and water rights to this land: more than 300,000 acres as someone has stated here. If he did he would not be withholding Chump Change grazing fee payments.
No, this man is a thief masquerading as a Patriot and Liberty Lover to dupe the public for his personal benefit. The saddest part of it all is that sincere, well meaning, and patriotic liberty lovers have been fooled. Can you say “Bernie Madoff”? Its a scam Walt. 🙁
DK,
I find it odd that you demand links and evidence while at the same time provide none of your own.
The fact is, I could have a vast array of links and evidence, had I recorded it at the time of reading over the past week. When you study something and you finally understand it, you do not necessarily write down notes so that you can PROVE it later.
The fact is this: the story has been told and what you are fantasizing is nothing more than an opinion. What frosts my ass is that you appear to only be reading the cherry picked establishment information and basing your opinions on those. Even the establishment aknowledges what I am saying.
I have not seen the documents. I have not read the court cases. Have you? So, to day I have first hand evidence of anything would be a stretch. But my guess is that you read one or two head lines and made an assumption. This whole situation with the Bundy naysayers reminds me, once again, of the Zimmerman vs. Trayvon mess. The people that sided with Trayvon cherry picked and believed what they wanted. The people that sided with Zimmerman read EVERYTHING.
I’ve read everything. There is very little information convicting Bundy. There is some neutral stuff. The overwhelming information shows that Bundy is in the right. Did you read ANYTHING but a headline or two and then make assumptions? I call that Trayvonism. A fantasy of a 12 year old, cute, innocent Trayvon. (As a side note, I pissed of many people that sided with Trayvon when I quoted pieces of the open court case that TRAYVON’S OWN PEOPLE ASSERTED. Most people that sided Trayvon did it out of fantasy. It goes to show the power of a picture when one was, more or less, young and innocent, has.)
Frankly, your assertions that my narrative is lacking facts is the perfect example of “The Pot Calling The Kettle Black”.
After seeing your fantasy and misguided posts on here, I have to wonder who the hell you are. I’ve seen some very good posts by you in the past. Did you have some personality altering brain surgery? Frankly, your posts are schizophrenic. I do not wish to attack you personally, but, DK, are you OK?
The fact is, few people understand property rights. They don’t understand rights period and since way less than 50% of people actually own property in the states of The Union, except on paper, the subject of property rights is a foreign concept.
Your assertion that he does not own the grazing rights, water rights (and possibly mineral rights, as stated by Ranchers Wife), is simply blather that you can’t substantiate. Its written everywhere, their claims. They’ve claimed it in court and won. Do you think the BLM would have let him get away with this for 20 years if they had legal standing? No. 20 hours, maybe. They finally bought off a judge (mostly opinion but stands to reason) to emit some shitstained paper (a court order with appeal denied) and thought it was go time. (BTW, any court order that denies appeal spells “BRIBERY” to me.) Of course, it stands to reason that they would wand the appeal denied. Why? Every time they took Bundy to court, he would win on appeal because it would go up to the state court. Maybe this BRIBERY is not such of an OPINION after all.
So, here is a long list of articles you need to read. Not even the BLM is disputing what I say. Even they do not dispute that Bundy has those grazing rights, water rights (and possibly mineral rights), they are just doing what thay want like good a little statist organization does. They buy off a judge (opinion, not fact) and they’re on their way. I am compelled to read your posts because of past respect but I have been embarrassed for you each time. People that do not understand the situation at all (like YOU) should not be posting definitive opionons about things they (obviously) do not understand. You do not understand “range fees” on land where you own “grazing rights” and you, frankly, do not appear to understand rights or even leasing of those rights.
My post was condensed research. If you want the raw material, well, here it is. Its going to take me some time to gather it and backtrack, but, here you go:
It starts out with the BLM breaking the law. If they have to break the law to get someone to obey the law, thats a problem:
http://truthfarmer.com/2014/04/12/more-back-story-on-cliven-bundy-blm-war/
http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/04/bundy_ranch_the_federal_government_and_the_nevada_water_tipping_point.html
http://danaloeschradio.com/the-real-story-of-the-bundy-ranch/
http://allenwestrepublic.com/2014/04/11/the-real-story-behind-the-bundy-ranch-harassment-with-dana-show-dloesch/
http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/10/us/nevada-rancher-rangers-cattle-showdown/
…and there are plenty more.
So, here you go: if you want to find out and understand you can ready my posts or you can read the links, I don’t care which. But, please stop posting. There is nothing more disgusting that someone posting stuff they are too ignorant to be embarrassed about.
So, there are my links, a few of them that I backtracked through my history. The fact is, I found NO SOLID EVIDENCE THAT CLIVE DID ANYTHING UNLAWFUL. Well, except from the BLM. They claim he didn’t pay his forage fees. This is true. This is the constitutional rights problem that you, DK, seem bound and determine to ignore. HE OWNS THE LAND. No, he doesn’t own it fully.
For all of you to understand this more thoroughly, here is an example:
If you and I owned a 100 acre piece of property and we decided to split it. I own the back half. You own the front half. The front half has a small river running through it that cannot be accessed without crossing your half of the property. I need water. When we split the property, we made a legal agreement that I would have the right to access the creek via a right-of-way along the north edge of the east half of your property, say a 20ft right of way.
10 years later, you die. Property is sold. New owner comes in. He decides to build a house right in the middle of the right of way with a sprawling yard and fences and all. Its his property, right? Now, he’s telling me I have to right to drive my water truck through his fences and his yard. Sorry new owner. You’re SOL. My water rights and ingress/egress rights pre-empt your ownership (and probably date of birth).
Don’t ask for links. I have none. What I do have is 25 years of research, 32 acres and 3 rights of way on my property.
It would also *NOT* discourage other people from posting something stupid as it would not give anyone a chance to educate them. What I complain about is that you should no better. I am dissapointed that you are not more astute on this issue.
Thanks, DK, for pissing me off and getting me to key this in.
NR: I am fine, thanks for asking! 🙂 I have read these links and stories and/or similar ones before. Nothing new, and no solid evidence. Mostly hearsay. I have based my analysis upon Bundy’s own statements and my knowledge of business law, real estate leases, and my personal experience with BLM.
I agree and have no doubt that NWO PTB interests want to steal the water for Casino Owners in Las Vegas. That is par for the course, er golf course.
I also have no doubt that the Tortoise is a Red Herring, but the Tortoise did not become an issue until 1998, FIVE YEARS after Bundy ceased paying his grazing fees. When he stopped paying his fees, for whatever reason, he lost the lease and legal access to the land for his herd. End of story.
I have run across these turtles in the desert (not within a hundred miles my mine of course) and I am not surprised that they are “endangered”, because they are really stupid.
I picked up one about to slip over a 200 foot drop and carried him or her a couple hundred yards from the danger and pointed him, or her, in a safe direction. The turtle turned around and marched directly toward the cliff.
Sometimes you can’t fix stupid. You just have to wait until the fat lady sings. 🙂
Hey dk , Bundy has my permission to graze his cattle on my land (public land)for free any day of the week
Islander: I don’t and I, like you, have an UNDIVIDED interest in the land. He must have 100% permission or he has NO permission. 🙂
I wonder how it is you think that you have any interest of any sort in this particular Nevada State land(beyond informational). It’s County land to be more precise.
His developments predate and supercede their claim to the land and you don’t like it. He’ll pay the money to the rightfull recipient and no one else. We’ll help if need be.
His county is where the money belongs; not suplementing your weasly federal tax evasion schemes of sucking up and kissing their boots to enrich yourself mining on other peoples land. You suck on all of our wallets and then call him wrong. Piss off jag off, he wasn’t costing us a dime until fucks like you got involved.
He could have farmed that land for the next 10 generations on what has been spent so far.
DK, WE said BML go home, let the cattle go!
To put it bluntly, the people are being hoodwinked into believing that the situation is being resolved. It is not. It is a strategic de-escalation to fool the public.
Date: Saturday, 12 April 2014
Time: 1840 ET
To: Steve Quayle
From Doug Hagmann
At 1750 hours ET, I was contacted by my source within the Department of Homeland Security regarding the current situation at the Bundy Ranch. To put it bluntly, the people are being hoodwinked into believing that the situation is being resolved. It is not. It is a strategic de-escalation to fool the public. This source stated that the retreat of the BLM agents and the release of the cattle was actually crafted as a potential plan yesterday (Friday, 11 April 2014) based on the following:
1. A military assessment of satellite and drone surveillance imagery of the “patriot resistance. Drones under the control of the U.S. military were in use, taking real-time photographic images of not just the activity at the ranch, but “identifying the protesters, any arms and any supplies they might have or be carrying. “Mission accomplished.”
2. Real-time communication intercepts between patriots on-site and their off-site support;
3. Active monitoring of internet traffic regarding the coverage of events at ranch;
4. The monitoring of real-time video from the scene.
This source stated that a response by the patriot movement was anticipated, although exceeded their expectations. Although this was a real operation, they also ran this as a test case for future government operations once they saw the response. They were also actively managing the media, in some cases threatening to cut off White House access to anyone covering the event.
Despite this, the coverage by the alternative media began to create a public relations problem that was not easily managed. Note the lack of acknowledgment by the White House regarding this event. They are intentionally framing it as a state issue, despite the fact that all federal response has been and continues to be from the White House. There is a reason for this – a reason that has not been identified in any of the public reports to date. I will explain in further detail in a follow-up report on Sunday, after this source attends [redacted] to obtain more specific information about future federal operations. Regardless, according to this source, the government will take back ‘their land’ as they must to fulfill international obligations. It was never about grazing rights or anything other than (1) “securing clear title” to the land, and (2) further demonizing any patriotic resistance. It is my understanding, based on the information from this source, that it is a critical task to create a situation that will also advance their agenda of gun control and confiscation.
A more detailed report will follow on Sunday, 13 April 2014, with additional and much more specific information about their inside plans and future operations.PLEASE MAKE THIS VIRAL!
Wow…
PKLL
PK,
Is the Laulau like laulau you eat? Or something else, just curious,
Kula: LOL! I have often wondered about names here. Mine is just a pet name hubby calls me…. What is laulau that you eat? A Hawaiian thing right? I have often dreamed of seeing those beautiful islands….don’t think it’s ever going to happen though.
The name that I spend the most time trying to figure out is jerrytbg. 🙂
Jerry the bug
Jerry t bag
Jerry the big guy
Jerry the bad guy….etc.
PKLL
PK,,,
Yep a Laulau is a hawaiian delicacy
Is fish, pork, and beef with a little sweet potato with pork fat, wraped in taro leaves then wraped in a piece of banana leaf then ti leaves and steamed, quite tasty,,, a little rock salt and poki (a raw fish salad or salsa of sorts) and some poi and your eatin good!
Dont give up on seeing the islands, it is beautiful here, truly blessed,
Kula: I changed my mind….after hearing that description, I AM named after this Hawaiian Delicacy! LOL!!!
If I ever get there, I’m not sure I’d ever go home. I have a thing for the ocean and open green spaces and fish and waterfalls and flowers and….you get the idea.
PKLL
jerry The Boat Guy…
And if you had followed this site for any length of time you’d know that I’m an offshore sailor….
30 years in the business and can solo sail any Marconi rig, sloop, ketch or yawl up to 50′. I might add, without a single insurance claim against my name. I’ve been entrusted with yachts worth over a half mil. FYI
I’ll ignore the childish insults…
jerry; I don’t think she meant any offense to you.
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This may be a big mistake–don’t poke a rattler.
KM, thank you for that update. I suspected something like that. And they’ll use to further their antigun agenda? again, no surprise there. If the feds are still feeling froggy, go ahead and jump. We’ll see who comes out on top.
@KM….
So this in fact, was a probe?
Makes perfect sense.
Perhaps we should all acquire a copy of “The Art of War” by Sun Tzu.
UPDATE FROM DOUG HAGMANN-10:31 PM EASTERN-4/13/14
Special Note: As I stated in my report yesterday, additional information would be forthcoming today (Sunday). To those who object to the lateness of the hour for this report, it should be understood that I rely on my sources at their “convenience” (although convenience does not exist in the realm of exposing the agenda of the feds). Also, this is still a dynamic situation, meaning that federal assets and plans are still in play.
Narrative: As indicated in my report dated yesterday, 12 April 2014, I have been in contact with my primary source within the DHS as well as a secondary source outside of the DC area on multiple occasions throughout today. It is important for people to understand that the “breakdown” of the federal exercise is nearly as methodical and time consuming as the run-up to their arrival. The situation is still fluid, and there are federal assets still being debriefed.
Based on the information obtained from both sources who are known to this investigator but who are requesting anonymity for obvious reasons, however, the federal initiative to claim the land at the center of controversy in Nevada remains intact. Perhaps the most important information derived from both contacts is that the situation is not over. In the words of the DHS source, “they [the BLM and other support agencies] will be back.”
According to both sources, plans are being made to physically return on or about the date of the “American Spring,” which is scheduled for 16 May 2014. The purpose for choosing that date or approximate time period should be obvious. The most vocal and visible leaders of the patriot movement will be busy organizing and attending the DC event. It is during this period that the BLM and support agencies, by way of their physical presence combined with court actions, is intended.
Additionally, I was advised by a separate intelligence source that it is important for us in the patriot movement to understand that the situation is much more important to the federal government than just the visible components , or the stand-off, at the Bundy ranch alone. Consider the following:
· The current leadership wants to create [2014] as “the summer of rage.” They are astutely aware of the difference in public perception between the rural population and the urban areas, and intend to shape public perception against the patriot movement. They are already spinning the situation at the Bundy ranch into a “display of reasonableness” exhibited by the BLM, DHS and all federal agencies.
· The current leadership is attempting to ramp up the rhetoric in the mainstream media about the dangers of the patriotic movement and the threat they posed to life, limb and liberty. Of course, this is untrue. The intent is to cast an even wider net of anti-gun ownership initiatives over those displaying such “radical” tendencies as shown at the Bundy ranch.
· It is important to note that the intelligence source contacted by this investigator stressed that the leadership has every intention to stretch out future stand-offs and events, as such ultimately work to (or will be spun) to their benefit. It is their intent to “game the resolve and practicality of the people.
· Additionally, it must be noted that Cliven Bundy is literally “the last man standing” in the way of this federal land grab. Over four dozen ranchers have fallen victim to the federal land grabs. Clear title to the state-owned land cannot be claimed unless and until all claims to that land, (the Bundy presence) can be removed. As many already know, the intent is for the federal government to hold clear title as collateral and ultimately conveyance to global interests. While many are aware of its value to Harry Reid and others, this is also about the resources under the ground.
Additional updates will be provided as further data is developed from source – and not before.
Apr 13, 2014
If anyone thinks this is over with a Patriot win, they will be sadly mistaken. The FED’s are not going to let this Rancher ignore TWO Court orders and allow him to continue to run his cattle on Taxpayer land.
Not gonna happen.
While the FED stand down shows what Liberty Lovers, Patriots, and the People can achieve when they organize, communicate, volunteer, donate, and vote …. by ballot or bullet …. the real issue here is not now, and never was, Free Speech Zones. That was a Federal mistake, as was the threat to shoot into the crowd.
Those mistakes will not be repeated in the next round.
This is not a victory for the People against a Tyrannical Government, even though WE have a Tyrannical Administration running OUR government. This is a victory for a Deadbeat Rancher who has successfully manipulated the People to support his theft via his non-payment of grazing fees.
Would you folks here, and the Militia there, be so willing to get involved in the Nevada business dispute if it had been between two Ranchers, where Bundy was leasing that ground from a private owner? I don’t think so. I think everyone would recognize that it was a simple civil matter of the Lessee breaking his lease with the Lessor.
And that is the real problem in this case. You folks and the Militia would be willing to support someone who is legally wrong just because it is an opportunity to strike out at a Government that you hate; and understandably, considering what OUR employees have down to US. I understand that, and that is why the FED stand down is not a victory for Liberty.
It is not a victory for Liberty because it is not a victory for Justice. 🙁
You still haven’t taken the time to educate yourself regarding land use issues in the west as regards the Federal Government (via the BLM and USFS) and public use (both ranching and recreational).
Like I said….it’s not that you are ignorant…it’s that so much of what you know isn’t true.
Walt: I am well aware of land issues in the West as I donate to those Groups, like Public Lands for The People and others who are fighting for OUR land rights. Land is my business.
There are many land and water conflicts in the West. Each of them has separate legal issues specific to the individual case.
While I agree that the Federal Government is over reaching, grabbing American Trust Lands, and denying OUR access to OUR own lands, the issue in Nevada with Rancher Bundy is a commercial one and quite simple:
Rancher Bundy has failed to make legitimate grazing fee payments for the use of Taxpayer lands, but continues to graze his herd on Taxpayer forage.
Should the other 157,000 Ranchers in America who pay grazing fees be allowed to use Taxpayer forage for FREE? 🙂
Walt: If your answer is yes, then there IS a free lunch in America, for kids and cows, but it would seem that the cows eat better! 🙁
They drove/forced 52 other ranchers that were making their lease payments off their land. Stop being a troll and get an education. The missed lease payments could have been handled by a lien on his tax returns. There was no reason to call in snipers and other retards to handle a rancher who had made no threats. Just wait ass wipe your turn may come someday although as you are a fed insider and disinformation shill you are most likely one of the privileged.
John W: My “beef” is with Bundy. He has not been paying his grazing fees for 20 years. I do not have enough information about the cases of the other 56 ranchers to make a judgement.
I doubt that you do either. 🙂
John W: LMAO! Me, privileged? I grew up on fried potatoes and ketchup sandwiches. Peanut butter and jelly on a good day. 🙁
DK: So, what you are saying is that without the “grazing fees” Clive’s forage rights, water rights and mineral rights mean nothing?
If that is what you are saying, the STFU! You are as bad as the rogue administration that calls the shots for the BLM.
The fact is they would never have let it go this far if Clive did not have standing. Why are you shillin’ this so deep? I suddenly have a very bad feeling about you. Land is your business? Really? So what if I owned the mineral right to that ground? Bought it free and clear before the BLM. Can the BLM say, “I’m sorry Mr. Ranger, but this ground has turtles on it and we cannot allow you to get the minerals that you own from the land. You are just out of luck.” Are you saying they can do that? If that is what you believe then WHY THE HELL DID I BUY THE RIGHTS TO THE MINERALS? This isn’t Star Trek! I cannot BEAM them minerals out.
Clive owns forage rights. Whether you like it or not or the BLM likes it or not, you both are SHIT OUT OF LUCK. *HE* owns the right to run his cattle on the land. Those rights are pre-emptive because HE PURCHASED THEM! What you just can’t seem to understand is that it is HIS PROPERTY. No, he does not have full surface rights other than those needed to allow his cattle to forage. He also has the right to build roads and infrastructure to support his foraging operation.
What part of YOU ARE JUST PLAIN WRONG do you not understand?
HA! Under common law, he may not even have to have a piece of shitstained paper that shows he “owns” anything!
Read this, DK:
http://www.tysknews.com/Depts/Environment/driving_them_1.htm
NR: Thanks for the link. Another deadbeat Rancher. It would appear that Gardner is and has been taking the same stance that Bundy has: that the BLM does not have jurisdiction over him or the land, and therefore he can run his cattle on Taxpayer land without paying grazing fees. It’s a great way to get a FREE lunch if you can get it, but …… BTW, again, Bundy does not claim ownership.
The State of Nevada and the Courts have ruled otherwise. Twice.
The correct process which would have protected both Rancher’s leasehold on the land would have been to challenge ownership and jurisdiction in the Courts while continuing to pay the fees; then ask for a return of fees, attorney’s fees, and “damages”.
I don’t know if they had a Jury Trial during these proceedings; but I would suspect that a jury trial could negate the Court’s ruling, and obviously these Rancher’s can have another day in Court with a Jury; if they have not had a jury trial yet. And Jury Trials are typical for financial disputes of this magnitude. It’s not a $1 million parking ticket.
If they had …… the judgement will stand. If and when a jury deliberates upon the issue, I have no doubt that it will come done to whether these Ranchers abandoned or forfeited their by non-payment.
It’s called “Due Process”. 🙂
Blah,blah,blah, “He ignored two court orders” Then parroting the media talking points..Parasite, deadbeat, ad nausem. Good job DK, your loving Government has about taken away most of our liberties where we are just about to the point of being serfs working for the Liege Lord. When they come to take your property, (oh yes your land, public or private, will be defaulted to foreign interest when the firesale begins), I will be wondering why one doth protest to much?
mqg25: I have only read one article from LSM at CNN and that was today from a link supplied on this site from a comment here.
My understanding of the Nevada situation comes primarily from Alt Media, Bundy himself, and my knowledge of business law, real estate law, contracts and lease law, and my personal experience with BLM.
So if LSM is using those adjectives to describe Rancher Bundy, they are parroting me. Just so you have the facts. Unlike Alt Media Sheeple, I can think for myself!!! 🙂
Just as i predicted in the last Article 7
Federal Snipers Train Guns on Family… They pissed of enough of US and then we showed up in Force… The sad thing is we will see the Day when the fascist government will not back down and call in the troops.. Troops will you shoot your own people?? even if you are ordered ??
Well my friend that will be the day that the tree of liberty begins to be fed once more.
I wouldnt use the pepper spray image. Those kids werent tied up. They actually volunteered to be sprayed. If you look at the raw footge from that incident, the kids had made a circle around police telling them that they could not leave with their prisoners. The police had yo choose between pepper spray and trying to carry their occupy prisoners over the heds of the chanting kids and injure somebody, they told the kids they would have to pepper spray part of the circle if the kids continued to encircle the police and refuse to move. Not only did the occupiers refuse to move, a geoup of kids volunteered to be pepper sprayed and dropped don in the spot relieving the kids ho had been there originally. They ented to look like martyrs, everybody screaming “dont hoot the children”! While the csupposed children were ll psyched and excited to be sprayed. That vop did the only thing he could do nd walked into a propaganda trap. Police brutality is real, but so is anti-police leftist propaganda and youve kind of mistaken one for the other. Best.
True enough, however I’ve seen enough footage of excessive force on handcuffed unarmed individuals, that is this is the only photo Mac could find to illustrate his point, that okay.
X; actually I believe you are wrong about that incident. The cop in that photo was reprimanded and discharged for his excessive use of force against peaceful protestors.
GR
If this can happen with no shots fired, imagine what can happen WITH shots fired.
I’ve got an excellent idea. Why don’t we all register a “Brand” and each of use buy a 100 head of bred cows and take them to Bunkerville and release them with Clivens cattle since the grazing is free. The BLM may not like it, but it’s not their land and I’m sure Cliven won’t mind. We may have to pull them out a little early this fall cause the grazing may get a little thin, but that may depend on how many of us take advantage of this free land. Sure makes since to me. I know Clivens been there a long time so he’s entitled to 1000 head and since we’re new commers we’ll only start off with a 100 head. Can I get some input on this? Trekker Out.
Unfortunately bred cattle are about 1k/head. And most have calved already or are calving shortly. I like your thinking though.
Sounds like a good idea, however, since we don’t own any forage rights or water rights, we’d be tresspassing *UNLESS* we could lease the rights for our 100 head to forage and drink. They are his rights to do with as he pleases. …not that the BLM will honor that, but under the law, it is truth.
Of course we might want to check with someone whos “bussiness is land” and see if that would be a lawful thing to do.
NetRanger, your trying to insert Rule of Law. We don’t need forage rights or water rights. Most on this site seems to think that this land belongs to who ever wants to use it, and besides who would I have to lease this from. Bundy or the BLM. On another subject, where I live there is a lot of National Forest. Wonder if it would be alright to just cut some timber and build a log home since no one owns this timber or land. On second thought, there is BLM land less than 200yards from my house, guess I should put some cattle on it, don’t know if the rancher that pays a lease for it would mind. But maybe he hasn’t been making his lease payments either. Trekker Out. Freemen Own Guns, Slaves Don’t!
You are incorrect and your understanding of what is and what isn’t is flawed.
First, they were not “lease payments” they were “range fees”. Different. The BLM were trying to say they were lease payments, they were not. He has forage and water rights to the land that were purchased over 100 years ago and have been handed down from his grandfather, to his father and to him.
How would you like it if your family had purchased “weekend camping rights” 100 years ago to the BLM land next to you. Then, one day, you’re pitching you tent with your kids and some BLM agent comes along and says, “Sir, we can’t allow you to do that. The squirmy wormy that inhabits these woods is a protected species and you cannot camp here anymore.”
What would *YOU* do? Would it be “Oh, sorry sir.” and leave.
What if your grandpa paid $60 for the camping rights in 1890? …and the BLM offered to buy you out for $60, would you take it? (Even considering that the $60 back then was 3 $20 goldpieces that would not be something like $5000?)
You people that are beating this guy down DO NOT UNDERSTAND the situation. You’re using some type of citified land dispute paradigm that is for city lot surveying and enforcement.
I don’t mean to be excessively harsh, but, many of you just look like total dumbasses when it comes to this situation. Sure, I’m anti-government but not because I’m anti-government. I’m anti-government because the bastards constantly break the law, color of law and common law. Besides, the BLM is a foreign interest asset. Get it? What the hell are they doing pushing a rancher around anyway?
Read my posts before you go siding with anybody that says Clive just doesn’t want to pay his taxes. That is so wrong. You don’t udnerstand that he’s been paying them, just not to the BLM. He has the money, its not like he is poor.
I think that is more the problem. The class warfare brainwashing has seeped into many of your brains. Clive is a rich man but, he is a rich man with rights. He may be rich but he’s one of us, not the elite. That is why they are trying to beat him down. That is why he deserves our help.
This situation is not a pretext. This is real attempted property theft by the fedcoats, both directly (The Cattle) and indirectly (The Forage and Water Rights).
Net Ranger: Your information is amazing. I appreciate the time and effort it takes to try and educate us….I have learned a lot.
Question: I have seriously pondered the suggestion by MT. Would it be reasonable to buy a cow for Bundy’s ranch (or whatever ranch is near you) build up his stock, let him keep the calves, let him manage the heard, then when it’s time to sell or make steaks, get a percentage of the sale or meat?
Is that even possible or reasonable? It seems like a good idea to me. Kinda win/win….
I don’t know anything about ranching, so forgive me if I’m way off base.
PKLL
Net Ranger….read this post AFTER the one below….it was the only way to keep it close….
Further thought on “cow sharing”……if say hundreds of people bought cows for ranchers to manage, and the feds tried to pull whatever….there would be more people with a dog in the fight, a faster response by the people and people’s family and friends….because they are DIRECTLY threatening your property and food. There would be a swarm of armed patriots in an hour, not a day….also people would feel like they were part of the ranch community, even if they lived far away….community is what we need for what is coming….
Do you see where I’m going with this? Does it even make sense?
PKLL
Net Ranger: Sorry, I’m like a dog with a bone…
Okay, what about pledging support (actually showing up) for your local rancher in exchange for steaks? Whether it’s armed or in court?
Comments anyone?
PKLL
NR: Common Law and three dollars will get you a cup of joe at Starbucks and a wife that wants half of everything you own! 🙂
NetRanger, I agree with everything you have said. DK has it all wrong.
Not sure PK. You’d have to take that up with Clive. He’d have to figure the angle on the charges.
Were I to do that, I’d simply buy yearling calves and raise them for another year or two. If one had a cheap source of feed for over winter, you could buy, winter over, graze the next year then butcher in the fall.
Problem is, right now cattle are running above $100 (thats a per 100 pound price. Thats how they sell them. $s per 100). My father in law just purchased a couple calves and he had to pay $110. they were 500 pounders. He paid of $1100 dollars for the two. He didn’t want to winter them over last fall so he waited until now to get them. Wishes he hadn’t now.
I’d say mountain trekker’s idea could work but most ranchers really don’t want to mess with the general public.
When I managed cattle, 30 some years ago, our herd varied from 40 to 70 head. When the cows would calve, it would go up, but then we’d haul off the older cows and the 2 and 3 year olds and the herd would shrink. We’d keep the nice looking cows for breading stock, swapping bulls out ever 3 or 4 years to keep the genetics from degrading.
As I think back now, I knew every cow and every bull. When I would feed and haul and herd. Strange those memories so long ago. I did it for about 10 years from the time I was 11 years old. I was born into it. By the time I was 7 or 8 I was fixing fencline (we had about 10 miles of electric fence). Wow, the stories I could tell.
Here is one:
The cow that didn’t know she was a cow. April.
I found her on a cold April morning. She could barely stand. Born a little early in the season. Perfectly healthy. No mother around. No other cattle around. I forced her to lay down near a tree and piled leaves up over her to help keep her warm. I headed over the hill to find the herd and her mother.
I was 12, out running fenceline. It was shorted. Limb probably on it. I found it, fixed it and found April. I went and found the herd. I found the cow that had just given birth. I could hear April’s moos just over the hill. I’m sure her mother could to. I gently tried to push April’s mother back to her. I saw the crazy switch flip on. Cows are like that sometimes. She took off across the pasture and down through the woods like I’d shot at her.
I went back home and told my dad what had happened. He acknowledged that the cow that had given birth was the crazy cow that he just didn’t have room for in the last load we hauled last fall. Now he regretted not making room.
We took a nipple and put over a heated bottle of milk. Milk in a pop bottle still still seems strange to me. I fed the starving thing and covered it back up with leaves. Though it was almost half a mile from the house, I could hear its paniced moos a few hours later. Off I went with another bottle of milk.
By this time I realized that she’d been abandoned. Crazy cow was never going to allow her to nurse. So, I went back, once again on my dirt bike, the vehicle of choice for fence running farm boys. She drank the bottle right down.
I thought I’d go back and get the truck and put her in the front seat with me and take her home. But, no, that was not possible. There was no way this 40 pound calf was going to let me leave. I was now the adopted mother.
For the next 5 years, I had a buddy. She grew to about 700 pounds. Followed me everywhere if I would let her. The funniest stuff was when friends would come over. I’d say, “Hey! I need to check out the cattle. Lets go take a walk.” I’d see the herd and we’d walk that way. As soon as April we see me HERE SHE’D COME! FULL THROTTLE! All 700 pounds of head waving, tail slapping Herford. I’d do a couple things. Sometimes I’d say, “Don’t move. They can’t see you if you don’t move.” Terrified, my friend would freeze. …until I couldn’t keep from busing out laughing. Then I’d give April a big hug. She was like a 700lb teddy bear only smellier. She would hang out with us for a while then go back with the herd and eat. Sometimes I’d get on her back. She always seemed to enjoy that too.
The other thing I would do is yell, “OMG! Mad cow! RUN! RUN!” Of course my friend wouldn’t know the difference. You should see how fast people can run what they’re about to crap their drawers! Of course I’d just stand there laughing.
The joke was all on them until one day I did that, April came running and kind of stumbled. That 100lb head swinging around caught me right in the side and I went flying. I woke up with April and my friend standing over me, April’s giant, wet, stinky nose right on top of mine. I sware to this day she was trying to apologize.
April was quite the pet.
She died on November 15th when she was 6 years old. Don’t really know why. I noticed I didn’t see her with the herd one day. I found her laying dead. I went and got the backhoe and buried her about 200 yard due south of where I’m sitting now. I only knew her for 5 years but it still hurt as my dad and I gently rolled her off in the hole I dug.
Oh, btw, she had a calf when she was about 3. The calf was crazy as a loon. Dad told me to expect it. It usually skips a generation.
Night all. Prayers to the Bundys.
-NR
them: 10,000
us: 1
but it’s a start
Net Ranger….that was the nicest story I’ve heard in a long time. And for a moment it took me out of this crazy world and put me in a very happy place. Sorry about April, but I am so glad you had that experience. I would have cherished that memory too.
God Bless
PKLL
Hell Ya! Great Work and Thanks to those who took action. On a side note. I encourage everyone to take an Appleseed shooting course I just took one and it is awesome.
I have read nothing about these contract cowboys working for the BLM. A good test to see Bundy has the support of local ranchers is if the day money cowboys were local or trucked in by the feds from long distances. I really want to know more about them, that will tell me more about the situation.
I do know that I would NEVER saddle my horse to do that kind of work under these circumstances. Too divided and venomous.
Okay. Sorry by I read a bit more about this. The hired hands are from UTAH. This tells me that they couldn’t get locals to work for them.
I have heard people call the day money cowboys traitors. I hope that they were unaware to the situation before being hired on and left when they became aware of it. If they didn’t quit on the spot they are traitors.
The cattle were supposed to be sold in Utah as well which is nothing out of the ordinary in itself. Cattle are frequently trucked out of state for sale. The fact that they had to pay of the sale barn is what is damning. I would guess that sale barn will be out of business soon. Nobody will want to be associated with that kind of business and word travels quickly.
Be interesting to know who these cowboys were, my bet is they have some sort of ties to DHS or some military contractor, are probably rodeo cowboys, x military, working for gov contractor
Hired cowboys from Mehico?
Kula: I read that they were off of some outfit in Utah. But I would like to believe that they only know that they were going to collect strays or something. I cannot imagine knowing the full situation that they would have saddled a horse.
Well rather: Us: 1. Them: A gazillion minus 1.
These guys– the Malitia– they need to have protective gear such as bullet proof vests, helmets, and AK-47’s. They look too vulnerable… if they do intend to fight, they better get it right– dress for the occassion. (Just don’t want to see anything bad happen to them!)
Several of the guys in that picture are wearing vests. They didn’t want to look too “armed”. That can tend to make things more volatile. I agree with what you are saying, to a point, but they were not looking for a confrontation. They were hoping for a peaceful solution but wanted a little backup.
The Bundys requested they not wear camo,
Most guys plate carriers are camo,
thats why i only buy black tactical gear
NetRanger–your story about your cow April was incredibly moving. Within my mind’s eye, I was visualizing what you described. Thank you for sharing your story about April 🙂
Congratulations militia members you’ve just identified yourselves as potential disobedients to the government. This was a false flag to wire tap all phones of those individuals considered a threat to “national security”.
Bundey and Oath Keepers :1
Overreacging Guberment: 0
This is NOT over. The government will be back, with more firepower next time…
Check out: Northeast Intelligence Network: http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/archives/10598#more-10598
for the latest from the “inside”.
God bless the Bundy’s, but I hope his supporters stay around for at least a month!
What you state as 5000 heavily armed militia turned out to be less than 1000 protesters, some of whom had firearms.
What about the facts that Bundy has been in violation of the laws since 1987. He had the right to use of the land through a land lease. He has refused to pay the fees associated with this legal lease for over 25 years. He has been in violation of several court orders.
Why don’t you people also report about these FACTS. You continually break the law you are eventually going to have to pay the piper.
Big Yank: I’ve seen the videos made from the militia that were THERE. Your facts are wrong and you have no clue what you are talking about.
PKLL
This is huge!! I just hope too much time doesn’t pass by and the American people loose steam and/or forget about this. Strike while the iron is hot! Keep the momentum going!!
I want a First Amendment Zone T-shirt!
We won one, but we’re way behind.
Again. The government can only do what YOU allow them to do. Don’t allow further encroachments into your liberties and rights and fight back whenever the snake rears it’s ugly head.
You can also bet they are watching how this unfolded and will send overwhelming force next time. React accordingly and in kind.
We need to roll enough heads, that it will be a long time before there is a “next time.” Starting with Harry Reid.
There just happens to be a whole lotta patriots on Nevada soil right now…maybe a road trip to Reid’s office is in order.
Yo Socrates –
And just what do you think would have happened to the United States precious “safe-haven-status” as a place to SAFELY ‘park’ your money, if the nightly news showed US Citizens engaged in open, active and armed conflict with the BLM assholes?
It really wouldn’t do too much to attract or retain foreign investment in the US.
Our government is beginning to look very much like another one of those fucking third world banana republic dictatorships.
We do live in interesting times!!!! Please keep an eye on the chair closest to you …… I have a feeling that the music is getting ready to stop.
God Bless and good luck to all who post here, even my old amigo Barn Cat. As harsh and judgmental as he is of others; I have a feeling that he needs God’s blessings perhaps a little more than most.
Believe, Wall St. knows about this already, and so does those chinese investors…if not, they will know shortly.
Can you imagine the chinese investors watching this? They will truely believe that the American public will not be cowed and that there is a gun behind every blade of grass.
This is a scary thought, what will Harry do to make this deal happen. What if the chinese pull out of the deal, what will Harry do then?
I need an adult beverage now…(thanks whoever said that)!
PKLL
PKLL–why aren’t we asking what will we do to Harry Reid??
Is this not treason??
What part of this story isn’t clear—it’s clear to me.
China over Nevadans??
Jay-Jay….No doubt treason. No doubt crazy loon wrong. Of course Nevada/Us citizens over China….
My worry is that they have given China the land in exchange for our debt. And what will Harry do to make that happen to the good American Citizens and Patriots. While I believe in our numbers and our sovereign rights, they have bigger weapons, the law (made up law) on their side, purely evil intent and a Godless soul to keep themselves in power and money. So, I say again, what will Harry do to make this happen?
I fear for our people. That’s all I meant.
PKLL
Sounds like we’ll be practicing with targets that are imported from china…
PKLL, the proper terminology for “made up law” is “color of law”. Which, essentially means, looks like law but is not. All federal codes, statutes and regulation are just that. Unbeknownst to the masses, they brainwashed most into believe “the law” is “The Law” when it is not. They abbreviate color of law with the title “the law” and it sounds just like “The Law” but it is not.
The *ONLY* reason they can do this is because they have guns and they are willing to murder. Which, reminds me:
Government of this day does only three thngs:
1. Lie
2. Steal
3. Murder
In many cases all three are used. In most cases at least two are used. But, in EVERY SINGLE CASE at least one of those three tactics are used by government to get ANYTHING done.
I defy any person posting on this conversation to show me otherwise. If you come up with something that government has done in the last 10 years that doesn’t use at least one of the above activities, I’m betting that you just don’t know the whole story.
This is not an opinion. This is fact. …and a very sad one.
Net Ranger: Thanks for the reply and info… I never understood “the color of law” before…..and sadly you are right.
I posted a few questions for you a little higher up….if you get some time, can you reply?
Thanks,
PKLL
NetRanger (Comment ID: 3009010) I don’t have enough green thumbs to give you. I thought about asking for thumb donations, but decided just to say that I haven’t heard a better description of “The Law” in a long time.
Even if they finally pull it off and the chinese win—they are well behind enemy lines here…life could be ugly for a chinese business in no-man’s land…just the damage from the weather alone could be financially heart-breaking…not to mention the things that go bump in the night.
MM, wow! Huge trains of thought hit my brain when I read your post. Hmmm. I’m really thinking that when Brietbart broke the Rory Reid Represents Chinese Energy story that is what really took this situation and shorted out the batteries. I mean, it was the combo of patriots, guns, resistance and exposure that meant they could no longer keep it all under wraps. Yeah, buddy, these people are crooks too the core!
Huh, like *THATS* news, right?
THAT, and the fear of what else we might be able to uncover, given the proper motivation….sometimes it is safer to just let the sleeping dragon sleep.
I almost expect DK to show up and start back peddling and saying some of what you’re saying …. 🙂
On a more salient point…I agree totally…
They will be back and in force…Let us see how they configure…
Any Patriots marching on Reid’s office should be marching on that office for the repeal of Agenda 21, and/or his attempts at gun control; NOT in support of a Deadbeat Rancher.
Liberty Lovers and Patriots must align themselves with real Constitutional issues of freedom and justice, not bogus ones, like a trumped up altercation between a thief and the Courts.
Otherwise WE do ourselves and our CAUSE a grave disservice. 🙁
DK, Bundy is not a deadbeat or a thief.
RB: He is a Deadbeat because he owes the Court over One Million Dollars in fees and fines: $300,000 by his own admission and refuses to pay because he believes that OUR land is his land.
He IS a thief because he is stealing forage for his herd from Taxpayer land without payment. YOUR land. MY land. Do you think the other 157,000 ranchers in America who currently pay grazing fees should get to run their herds on Taxpayer land for FREE?
Should miners, big and small get to claim the land and minerals they mine without fees or royalties? What is good for the goose is good for the ganders. 🙂
Miners do all the time. If they have purchased the mineral rights, buddy! I thought you said “my business is land”. For someone who says that, they don’t seem to understand that when you own something you can use or posess it and any government entity or person that attempts to keep you from posessing it is effectively stealing from you.
While the land is your land and my land, the forage rights and water rights are not ours! They belong to Clive. Your message was from an earlier time, I’m just mopping up after you in hopes that you’ve finally realized the facts involved with this case.
NR: Miners have not been allowed to purchase the mineral rights through the FEDs for some time. What mining companies do today is “land swaps” with the FEDs.
The mining company will buy private land the FS or BLM wants; maybe a “wetland” or a “conservation corridor” and engineer a swap.
I am looking at one myself. 🙂
Its boils down to this Bundy and his supporters think that the forage & water rights belong to Bundy. unfortunately the courts have decided other wise. Did he appeal the two court orders telling him to remove the cattle? If he did I would really like to see the court documents. If he did not appeal the only thing I can say is (He who will not when he may when he will shall have nay).
DK, land swaps make perfect sense. Low key, potentially everybody ends up with what they want, unless the original owner didn’t want to sell or got ripped off on the price.
With no clear violations, those swaps could fly under the radar forever.
@Durango Kid
And you still can’t make the connection that this IS about Agenda 21.
Geez….I thought you were smarter than that DK.
I guess not.
Walt: Why don’t you just answer my questions. 🙂
Try doing the research I’ve suggested.
Your questions are red herrings.
Walt: Bundy stopped making lease payments in 1993. The tortoise did not become an issue on this land until 1998. This is NOT an Agenda 21 issue with Bundy.
He is a thief, manipulating the liberty Movement for personal profit. 🙁
It is if you own the land without a deed, which, if you will read my post about our church, can even happen in much more developed and populated areas.
NR: Property law in the East where you live, evolved from English Common Law. Property law in the West, once owned by Mexico, evolved from Spanish Law. There are subtle differences, but meaningful ones: particularly with respect to say, property and divorce.
Sorry, but you cannot apply the example of your church to a power struggle in Nevada over grazing rights. 🙁
Reid lives in DC at the Ritz Carlton and is seldom in Nevada. Bothering his office would be pointless. Plus he is untouchable just like all the inner cabal of the Democrat/communist party. The Stupid party is just slightly better. Their silence on this situation tells us all we need to know.
I gave you a green one with one caveat—no one is completely untouchable, given the proper motivation.
We need to stand up for everyone the government is targeting with Agenda 21 – the front yard gardeners, people living off-grid, etc. This is the way we defend our God-given rights.
If the BLM or any other LEO assembles an overwhelming force, they have to come from someplace. Who will be minding the store while they are gone? This is especially true of major cities where there is a shortage of LEOs to start with.
Remember Katrina when 50% of NO police officers went AWOL? What do you think will happen when they start loosing BLM agents? Yes they are trained, yes they are well armed, and yes this is just a job for them. You can’t spend your pension if you are in a box underground.
Look up the definition of Saboteur and get your shoe ready.
And then there are Promise Keepers.
BRAVO PATRIOTS. GOD BLESS YOU ALL. This victory is larger than life. However we shouldn’t nor we’ll put our guards down. The puppet masters are pissed and don’t think they’ll stop their satanic planning. However the message is clear and loud. Think twice you paid SOB’s before you try to subdued our freedoms. Think ten times harder to plan to disarm us. The reason the patriots won was simple. The 2nd Amendment of the US constitutions. Period. SALUTE TO ALL FREEDOM LOVING AMERICANS.
There need to be at least a hundred more Cliven Bundys stand up and challenge illegitimate authority on our public lands. This experience showed the Cliven Bundys that We the People have had enough and will stand by them. Support for Bundy came form oregon, utah, montana, arizona, nevada. Its a pain but much less painful then full blown war. We out number them, we actually out gun them, and we can out think and out principle them. Time to pull together before it gets worse.
Lesson for the day: You’re not alone. Make a stand and you’ll get your back up.
Someone with the resources needs to go back over the land acquisitions of private/public lands and find out who the previous owners are. Give them a chance to tell their story to the public of what happened to them. We need to hear from a lot more than just Nevada.
I’m pretty miffed now that I know my state, Oregon, is about 70 percent BLM owned. I live pretty close to a national forest—could my home be next? Who knows, but I’m sure going to try to find out.
I also think the other 52 ranches should be restored to their original owners as well…money refunded or not.
Seriously not a violent person, but if I ever find one of you troll red thumbers, I’m gonna hurt your face.
PKLL
PKLL–it’s Harry Reid!! 🙂
Brillant JJ! 🙂
LOL!
PKLL
I think a bunch of Obamanites hit this site and other conservative sites just to “thumb down” our posts. Keep in mind the Obama Regime has hired thousands of people to do just that and post Regime support comments all over the Internet. Also, the Obama Regime has the resources of the federal alphabet agencies which are now using computer programs (I call them ObamaBots) to actually go online and get into discussions to disrupt us. I know I was “talking” to a ObamaBot last year on youtube when the “person” never made sense and kept typing the same thing over and over. It was because I was “talking” to a machine…I know it had to be.
I Just hope this is not a misdirection from the Feds. Making us think they are leaving. Watch for a False Flag!
A.S.M.S.
Sgt.
Howdy, Sarge. I get the same feeling about this. The feds will be back. Count on it.
Would Harry Reid’s head on a pike be considered a “flag”?
🙂
Sixpack
No just a dick on a stick.
Sgt.
ROFLMFAO
sounds like something obummer might like…
“a dick on a stick”, I mean.
From what the hookers say in DC about Reid, you would need a microscope and tweezers to pin that on a stick.
A flag with a Medusa type face on it. Reid has to be brought up on charges and jailed, or everyone else in Congress will think they can get away with massive wealth grabs, as well. None of them have a moral objection, so we go back to community standards. I am fearful for the patriots who may have been identified. Obama has no compunctions about having them killed by SWAT teams in the night, but if not that, they will be audited every year for the rest of their life, and they will NEVER be able to pass. This may have been a “Second Shot Heard Around the World”, but I think Obama grudgingly called it off to prop up his sagging approval ratings. Those of you in a safe and solid militia need to rejoice. Most militias are riddled with a 98% gov’t spy presence, two dull-witted teenagers who think they’ve joined Captain America, and one guy (the founder) in a tinfoil hat. We have to protect the patriots who were identified, search for them if they’re missing and if all else fails, dig up their bodies and press for homicide charges. Soon, there will be too many of us for them to ignore or ridicule which is when we begin to make changes reflecting the Constitution and Bill of Rights. This has to come about quickly as the Feds are busy working on ultra death machines which will make a win for us much less likely. Robot soldiers, heat guns, noise cannons and GPS searches which can pick out a human face in the dark from 900 feet away.I really, really don’t want to be shot, but will consider it an honor if it saves the cause. Band together and take care of each other. Blessings!
An advantage that the patriots who went to Bunkerville have, is that they had a chance to meet others. While there may have been govt agents there for that purpose, not everyone was an agent.
As far as “being identified”, Oathkeepers have not exactly been hiding. Stewart Rhodes is well known. I’m confident that the sleepers among us took precautions to remain in the shadows. The footage from Bundyville (as I call it) showed that they did not bust out all of their arms to show off to the world and to the FEDs.
The govt STILL has no idea what they had. I also wonder how much a satellite can really see through a cowboy hat or baseball cap, from up there. License plates don’t mean much, vehicles are borrowed every day, not to mention stolen. Many people don’t change over the registration quickly, if ever, so they pretty much need to catch you in one.
As for “toying” with us, I’m not ready to concede that the Oathkeepers are anyone to be toyed with…
Roger all of that Sixpack.
There were the “militia” front that just showed enough arms to be intimidating. Were I to go out there, I would have been heavily, but covertly (kept it in the trunk until need) armed. …and believe me, they have no idea what I [have | have had | still have | will have]. I live in a state that treats used shovels only slightly different that used firearms. A 4473 means about as much as a Dairy Queen reciept in this state.
So, we kind of won this round. But, they’ve been putting the squeeze on Clive for 20 plus years. I really don’t think they’ll back down. They’ll hit him again sooner or later. Crooks never give up.
William Wallace:
“Slaves are made in such ways! The last time Longshanks spoke of peace I was a boy. And many Scottish nobles, who would not be slaves, were lured by him under a flag of truce to a barn, where he had them hanged. I was very young, but I remember Longshanks’ notion of peace.”
“Every man dies. But not every man truly lives.” Me
Good one: Women too.
PKLL
PKLL, I had a good woman until she was killed by a drunk driver. never found another one worthy enough to replace her.
BH….dang…so sorry.
Believe it or not….there are still good women out there.
Hugs to you BH
PKLL
PKLL, thank you for that.
That’s what they get for leaving their swords at the castle.
Second Amendment—DON’T LEAVE HOME WITHOUT IT!
SGT….see my post above…
PKLL
I’m happy things have come to a peaceful resolution for the time being.
There will be more battles to be fought in the future if we don’t change things right now though.
Keep on prepping, praying, and paying attention my fellow patriots.
Bout time. From this point forward, Patriots need to stick together and work together to begin to correct the evil that Washington has unleashed upon our country. It may take decades to fix, but fix it we must for those that come after us, our children, and their children. We must stop the same 535 millionaire lawyers from destroying us. Stop the millions of federal employees basking in 6 figure salaries and benefits for life, and stop the 40 percent who CHOOSE not to work and look to the rest of us for substinance. Let’s get our America, that so many have fought and died for back. Let’s just get it back.
Corncob–6 figures for life?? They don’t need that–the bribes and kick-backs alone from corporatocracy insure they will live better than 50% of America’s tax payers.
When our federal government officials come up against an equally-armed opponent, they quickly turn off their bullshit spigot and run the other way. Case in point: Russia and Ukraine, China and the South China Sea.
NEVER ALLOW THEM TO VIOLATE OR NULLIFY OUR 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHTS!!!
I think the gun-grabbers are going to find even BIGGER obstacles in their way, after this.
The govt just CONFIRMED why we need to remain armed at all costs.
Would the dickhead who red arrowed sixpack like to explain why?
Looks like there is at least one more now. Some of our resident window-lickers no doubt.
No surprise. This site has started to attract the government hacks and toadies. They’ve been here for a while, but events like this are like flipping on a light in a dark room. You actually get to see the slimy critters scurry around.
I’m still laughing over the “dick on a stick” crack, I don’t have time for assholes—hey, I made another funny…Time for bed soon.
And scurry they do Walt… look there’s one… splat!
There was one, that was all over the place with the same rhetoric…
Thought he’d change his tack, ease the sheet and do a beamer…
Nope, still beating to wind… not that it really matters. 🙂
Just goes to you show there is still power in the people.But the next crisis like this will mean the BLM and Feds will hurry up and do the arrest before people and material can come in along with media attention . If it wasn’t for people gathering this would have ended badly for Bundy .If you notice mainstream media downplayed it usual .But i think it also sends a message that the people are tired of there crap , there lies, there corruption , there laws and regulations which go against the constitution . If a fire fight did break out they surely would know that it wouldn’t end well for the government in general as it would solidify more unity for the people posing a much bigger threat to the current throne of power .
Just goes to show the power of the internet. Mainstream media ignored this until the internet videos went viral.
They have discovered that the real power is in the internet. Next time they will shut down the internet first.
Beware.
“”They have discovered that the real power is in the internet. Next time they will shut down the internet first. “”
Should the internet go down, it is time to mobilize where ever you may be…
GC,agree with that completely,the net/cell ect. down tis time to be more vigilant then ever and be ready to do the right thing no matter what.
…without further notice.
Oh I get it now—it wasn’t a REAL red thumber, it’s just a stalker…pffftt!
I had this thought as well Gods Creation. The only reason any of the MSM (Yes…FOX News is part of the MSM) picked up on this is because the alternative media spread it all over the Internet and it couldn’t be ignored.
I have several “triggers” that tell me when it’s on.
And one of them is when the Internet either gets taken down….or I no longer have access to sites that tell the truth about what is happening.
The CAN make access to certain sites difficult, while leaving the rest of the Internet untouched.
On that note….it’s good to have the actual IP addresses of these sites. One way that they can block access is via DNS. If you have the actual IP address, you can still access a site, even if its domain name is no longer being propagated. Of course, if they block the IP address or actually shut down the site…or take the site over, that’s a different matter. But it’s also an even bigger red flag that the SHTF.
But EXPECT that anything but the government approved media to be unavailable.
One other thing…..if they decide to go after the Bundy’s again, they will do it under cover of darkness (literal or figurative)and no media will allowed within a thousand yards of the scene. Think Waco folks. And they will manufacture some story about how the Bundy family shot first.
Let’s not forget that onumbnutz is handing control of the domain names over to the UN, er, I mean ICANN…
…can you say “Yes, we can”?
“Yes, we can”? …turn off.
But, they won’d dare. They pull something like that and it will be just as dangerous as firing the first shot.
Hey, Walt, what if I there was a fairly inexpensive way to keep all the IPs that you surf safe?
I’m working on a project just like that. In other words, they pull the DNS and my little jewel just keeps handing you the sites like nothing happened.
Anyone heard what the status is of the McAfee darknet project? It’s supposed to be a $100 box that makes you invisible on the net so you can’t be tracked.
In other countries, when they shut the Internet down, people went bezeerk and did even more revolting; it back fired on the government. The Internet is a way of letting off steam. Shut it down and there will be fire– hell to pay.
@Anonymous….
That may be true, but at some point, they just won’t care.
When they are ready to pull the trigger on this thing (and I’m not talking about just the Bundy situation) they will do it in such a way so as to try to convince us that it is for our own good.
Notice with the BLM stand down….they said…for the safety of BLM employees AND the protesters. That’s the way they always couch this stuff. If you saw any of the videos, notice how they tell people to comply with certain directions “for your own safety and the safety of the officer”.
BS. It’s always so the officer/s can control every aspect of the situation and keep you under their thumb.
That’s what those “First Amendment” zones were all about. And that’s what it’s about when government entities require “permits” to protest.
Can you imagine the patriots who took part in the Boston Tea Party taking out a permit? LOL!
Their “permit” was the size 12 that kicked in the doors to the tea storage areas…
Walt– yeah, I agree about the “Permit”– utter, utter BS!! We protested in the 60’s and we sure as hell didn’t get no “permit”– that is simply restricting you so you have no power– all BS!!!
We protested at the Capital, shouting,”1,2,3,4… we don’t want your f— war!” and the cops came at us with bully clubs, swinging at us. (They were on horseback)…a few kids got hit– was really upsetting, but it did nothing at all to deter those young kids. After one group left, another followed… they were all over that capital hill.
PERMITS TO PROTEST TYRANNY? HELL NO!!!!!!!
This is a good point . Next time they will be faster to close roads and highways . We must be willing to fight these roadblocks . Our rights to move about freely are being stepped on hard . Just like our communications are being looked at and listened to , our highways are littered with cameras watching us as we move .
Good deal, although I would be very cautious if I were Mr. Bundy.
Mac, perhaps we should adopt a SHTFPlan Official song? I have my personal favorite, from Twisted Sister, and the lyrics do fit the current state very well.
We’re Not Gonna Take It:
OH WE’RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT
NO, WE AIN’T GONNA TAKE IT
OH WE’RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE
WE’VE GOT THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE AND
THERE AIN’T NO WAY WE’LL LOSE IT
THIS IS OUR LIFE, THIS IS OUR SONG
WE’LL FIGHT THE POWERS THAT BE JUST
DON’T PICK OUR DESTINY ‘CAUSE
YOU DON’T KNOW US, YOU DON’T BELONG
OH WE’RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT
NO, WE AIN’T GONNA TAKE IT
OH WE’RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE
OH YOU’RE SO CONDESCENDING
YOUR GALL IS NEVER ENDING
WE DON’T WANT NOTHIN’, NOT A THING FROM YOU
YOUR LIFE IS TRITE AND JADED
BORING AND CONFISCATED
IF THAT’S YOUR BEST, YOUR BEST WON’T DO
OH…………………
OH…………………
WE’RE RIGHT/YEAH
WE’RE FREE/YEAH
WE’LL FIGHT/YEAH
YOU’LL SEE/YEAH
OH WE’RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT
NO, WE AIN’T GONNA TAKE IT
OH WE’RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE
OH WE’RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT
NO, WE AIN’T GONNA TAKE IT
OH WE’RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE
NO WAY!
OH…………………
OH…………………
WE’RE RIGHT/YEAH
WE’RE FREE/YEAH
WE’LL FIGHT/YEAH
YOU’LL SEE/YEAH
WE’RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT
NO, WE AIN’T GONNA TAKE IT
WE’RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE
WE’RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT, NO!
NO, WE AIN’T GONNA TAKE IT
WE’RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE
JUST YOU TRY AND MAKE US
WE’RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT
COME ON
NO, WE AIN’T GONNA TAKE IT
YOU’RE ALL WORTHLESS AND WEAK
WE’RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE
NOW DROP AND GIVE ME TWENTY
WE’RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT
A PLEDGE PIN
NO, WE AIN’T GONNA TAKE IT
OH YOU ON YOUR UNIFORM
WE’RE NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE
KySSG . . . out.
KySSG.
One of the best songs of the 80’s
I agree!!!
Sgt.
Yep, Sgt. Dale, they don’t make ’em like this anymore.
KySSG . . . out.
Amen..
May we all be ready for a call to arms when necessary!
possee
Joyous day. I felt compelled to be there and hang my head because I was not.
Incognito, There is many of us wearing them same Cement shoes. It wasnt just the people there at Bundys, it was the body and Soul of the people that the ptb could feel Upon them..
They are watching us wherever we are, doing our best to get the word out to those who hadn’t heard yet. They know our number is many more, than were standing up in Bunkerville.
We Are Legion.
We’re all going to be Cliven Bundys before it’s all said and done.
At least we won’t be singled out.
I keep wondering how many really were there– was it really thousands that came out to support the rancher? Haven’t been able to ascertain truth…??
I counted on the still photo and there was more than 100 people right there at that point—and they didn’t have enough horses for any more. Then those at the camp, on the roads in groups, the ones just getting there and the ones manning the equipment, I’d say there was enough patriots there to make the govt nervous…
I watched the live feed all day….it sure looked like a lot of people, much more than hundreds…I’d say at least a thousand…
PKLL
I’m not counting on the photos.
My understanding is the patriots/militia were on standby and near.
Just how I read between the lines.
Wrong??
That’s called “flanking”. Makes perfect sense to leave a few behind for the surprise party…I would.
Sixpack,
Or a quick reaction force ( QRF) estimates from my sources about 500 active citizens defense forces ( MILITIA ) are on site with an additional 5000 mobilized ( many more in reserve ) on stand by status due to events in Conn. last week and coming up in NY on the 15 .
We living in interesting times , the tide is starting to turn.
What you are witnessing are he Death Throes of the regime.
Semper Fi 8541
“What you are witnessing are he Death Throes of the regime.”
Well, someone crush it, it needs to be put out of our misery.
I’m betting there were thousands. I don’t really know but if there were not SheopleStreamMedia would have shown you just how few there were.
The reason I know this the protest that happened about obamacare some years ago. It was the largest protest ever seen in DC. The SheopleStream poo pooed the numbers and it backfired on them. If there are few, they will show few. If there are gobs, they’ll show nothing. This is why the ShoepleStream stayed away. We had power, they knew it, didn’t want to prove it. If they had lied about it, someone would have gotten pissed and it would have backfired again.
If they had been able to combat this with numbers, they would have done it. Let me poke around and see if I can get some reasonably reliable estimates.
Well, I saw one picture where, if I were to guess, there could have been a max of maybe 1000 people. I’ve learned to take my estimates and cut them in half, so, I’ll say 500. But, there just wasn’t any good pictures of the crowds. Maybe there will be more published in the future. Just really hard to tell.
But, 10,000 people unarmed is far less dangerous to tyranny than the 1 Citizen Militia member in the picture at the start of this article.
They effectively, in non verbal language, said to the BLM, “Poke this hornets nest one more time and you’re going to be hurting.”
Anybody able to get a reasonable count on the numbers? If the numbers were low, I’m wondering if maybe the presence of arms in the hand of the people was a 10,000x effetiveness multiplier?
Next time, Incognito…next time.
I’m gona make the pitcher in the Article my new Screensaver..
GREAT!!! GREAT!!! GREAT!!!
I dont know how tall Mr. Bundy is but he’s the biggest man I’ve ever seen..
I know less is far from over for Bundy, but this is a Huge step for the Patriots…
I predict this didn’t change anything. Those federal goons are bullies and all bullies are cowards.
They will withdraw for now, then come back later after all the militia folks have gone home. Then they will come for this family in the early pre-dawn hours and make an example of them with brutal violence.
That’s how those cowardly thugs with badges operate.
Now If I was the govt authorities I would identify as many of bundys supporters and romp upon them with both feet. Sick the IRS on them and if they get any government check stop the payment .
Old man I’m in a giving mood right now, so I forgive for your Ignorance..Enjoy the day..
PA Farmer, I think you are mistaking *FORESIGHT* for ignorance.
To (wise) Old Guy: I think you are exactly right. Its what they’ll do. After this dies down, your friends will figure out a way to take more from more and it will be undetectable except to the ones that will suffer.
Old Guy….
This is one post of yours with which I can actually agree.
Not a doubt in my mind that the goons did a lot of intel gathering….making of lists, etc.
But…..other people can make lists too.
Just sayin’….
When people try to leave we will have our answer. If they stop cars and search for any weapons then arrest the driver we will know that this is far from over. Is I-15 the freeway that is being mentioned? If they block that then the traffic will back up to SLC and Vegas. It will be a disaster.
Old Guy I hope that’s sarcasm… if not, best check your Depends as there has been a breach….. I can smell it…..or your mouthwash ain’t makin’ it.
PO’d Patriot:
Not his depends, not his breath, it is his soul that stinks……
Old guy, With such a comment, I think is time for you to die due the old age and natural causes. Are you really that ignorant. Go to bed and don’t wake up.
Can you people honestly not see that Old Guy is trying to help us? He’s giving us a heads up on a possible strategy the government might use to come after us. Get your heads out of your asses.
Old guy:
I and several others at shtf donated to the cause. I am sure you include us in the round up. You are a blight on freedom loving people in America.
I wish I had the power to ship you to China, Russia, Cuba, because you commie bastard who cares for nothing but yourself, that is where you belong.
Satan is surely smiling with glee at your post. May the good Lord forgive your ignorant soul, I cant.
God is Love.
Old guy was being clever. Telling us what the gubmint will likely do, and what we should be ready to face. Subtlety is a lost art and apparently tough to see. If you can’t think like your advisary you will always be two steps behind him.
Ok after reading following comments by old guy, I must call him pos.
however what he said will likely happen and therefore must be watched out for.
RFF
Getting mad just because someone said the truth and it is not the truth that someone wanted to heat is a sign of immaturity. Anyone who thinks the feds are going to let this slide is mistaken. Were it a bunch of illegals protesting there would be no problem. Regular Americans have no rights. Especially the pigmentation challenged.
I saw all the comments denigrating Old Guy, so I ended up clicking on his post.
It might do some people some good to consider that the government collected plenty of intel on the attendees at the event in NV. Facial recognition software isn’t perfect, but it does work pretty well with human oversight. There were only some few thousand attendees in NV. This would be a fair amount of work to collect and collate faces, addresses, vehicles, and so forth, but it could be done, up to a point.
If the government were to target certain individuals in the crowd, they would likely consider targeting leaders, not followers. Whatever analysts are working the fotos of the event, they would use their judgement and common sense to identify potential leaders for targeting by other government agencies.
Who can say if this work would really be worth the government’s while, but harrassment would be a technique that they could use. If there is a group of free individuals organizing, then it would be a good idea if they create some sort of methodology to find out if anybody did actually get targeted.
If people are getting targeted for harrassment, that needs to be known and publicized. The government is not operating in a vacuum, and any militias ought not operate in a vacuum either.
As I once heard it put…..
“If I had enough money to send half of Congress to China in a slow boat, I’d send all of them half-way.”
Hmmm. A defective logistics solution to a corruption problem.
Funny stuff!
Actually, Pissed Off Granny, Satan is smiling at your post. It’s not the first time and it won’t be the last.
Old guy, if that was only sarcasm, OK. If not, you might want to start looking over your own shoulder.
Old Guy: You’ve got them figured out alright. Bundy seems to have won a hollow victory. The IRS will simply send him a bill and when he doesn’t pay it, his cash flow will seize up and that’s death for any business, including the cattle business. This story will go quiet and many months later a back page story on how the IRS is seizing his bank accounts for nonpayment of taxes. End of story, and Bundy. As for his supporters, the Feds are biding their time and doing background checks through the FBI, ATF, and the IRS. Then again, this could also be the first real crack in the federal government and more will follow until it all comes unraveled. Only time will tell. They (FEDS), and many states, think NY and Conn. are enacting laws that folks are just ignoring and TPTB are afraid. As for this little adventure I’m just glad that no one lost their life.
When that happens its time for the cowboys to show up at the local IRS office.
Whoa! I think you guys missed the meaning of Old Guy’s post.
I think he meant to say something like, “If I were to think like the thug bastards that inhabit the Bastards of Land Mismanagement, I would identify as many of bundys supporters and romp upon them with both feet. Sick the IRS on them and if they get any government check stop the payment.”
I don’t think he intended to disparage the Bundy’s asparagas, did you Old Guy?
I think he meant that if they can’t get the cows, they can at least get intelligence and torture these people in the future.
To Old Guy, I say: Well, DUH! Its its what the losers in our unlawful government do, have done and will continue to do.
thats the way I read old guys comment too . Thats just how the govmt plays ball
Guess what Old Guy? What you wish on the “bundy supporters” Obamacare will do for you.
That’s a real possibility. being stubborn and hard headed I haven’t signed up or purchased any health care. so I suppose im now a criminal subject to punishment for having done nothing. Im not shure just what my reaction will be. I will cross that bridge when it come to it. The reality is quite some time ago the UN NWO and agenda 21 proponets decided that the so called blue collar producing USA middle class had more then their fair share. So things like OPEC nafta environmental laws where put into place to redistribute the middle class producing jobs to other places. Now that has been accomplished. So the working producing middle class is no longer needed or wanted by the powers that be. They want those brown skinned peons & serfs from south of the border. Its a pretty sad end to our republic.
At that point Tomahawk…..It will be “Hammer-Time”
Indeed.
But it is long overdue.
But it does, Tomahawk. It shows that bad people don’t back down unless they have to– when people have guns and are willing to use them. It shows the Power of the People. Occupy didn’t work, nor did other protests work because being nice doesn’t work. As Derrick Jensen says, talking nicely to a psychopath doesn’t work. He was right. You cannot reason with a psychopath. you have to have a bigger gun/possee!
Tomahawk, I wonder how many patriots might’ve stayed on as a “ranch hand”…Even the Ponderosa had a cook.
I have been praying for Cliven Bundy, the militia, and everyone by Clivens side, and for those working behind the scenes.
I will continue to pray for them, just in case.
It did my heart good to see the militia men escorting Cliven Bundy. I was impressed with the militia men by C. Bundys side. They looked like they knew their sh*t, and would be a force to be reckoned with.
I am glad to see this update.
A300:
You are right we should keep Mr. Bundy family, friends, and Militia in our prayers
I pray that this is over but my GUT tells me NO!!!!
We the People with Gods help took round 1. Let us hope and pray it was a knock out.
A.S.M.S.
Sgt.
Howdy, Sarge. The militia and supporters need to remain in place because round 2 is coming and the feds will try something different. If any SWAT team goes into the Bundy ranch property they need to be challenged and defeated. It’s high time that their illusion of being invincible was shattered into a million pieces. That’s the only way to get the rest of them to wake up, smell the coffee, and reconsider their own positions. They need to be made to realize that imposing a police state on your fellow citizens is not worth losing your life over. Plus, they must be made to recognize that their own homes could also get “SWATTED”. THEIR families are just as vulnerable to violence as anyone of us out here. Sarge, God knows, I never wanted to see things come to this in this land, but now it’s here. The day of reckoning is closer than anyone knows.
Unfortunately, beware of drones. Didn’t they have an executive order (or was it a bill that passed) saying Obama could order the death of terrorists by drone and Rand Paul was fighting it because it does not exclude Americans or those on American soil?
yep. I think Harry Reid was probably all for it too.
Once they run all the license plates and get a match as to the address where the owner of that car lives don’t be surprised if mass SWAT raids are performed on those homes. Hope I am wrong and this whole thing is left to cool down and be worked out peacefully but I doubt that will be allowed to happen.
with any luck, most of them borrowed their ride from a govt carpool…:)
R.B.
I pray that it is over, but I don’t trust those Bastards in D.C.
My feeling is that they will pull a false flag!
If that was a sniper team set up over the Bundy ranch the sucked. If that was me and my observer you would have never known we were there. What a joke, they were just trying to intimidate the Bundys.
If it gets that bad that I have to go out there they will find just how hard it is to find a real Sniper.
I don’t want to see anyone get hurt but if BLM pulls some kind of B.S. thy put their families in as fair game!!!!
I know that if anything happened to any of my family.
I WOULD GO HUNTING!
Sgt.
Time to get a Ghillie suit.
Walt ,
You should already have a GHILLE , drag back and zeroed EBR at this time .
I really feel with out revealing too much that problem would have been neutralized after the Feds fired the first shot in short order. Only the shadow knows LOL.
Gunny Hathcock rules.
Semper Fi 8541
Ment Drag bag .
Semper Fi 8541
“” God bless America “”
Oh shit. I had a feeling this was mostly a ploy to get them to stand down. Time to see who has the bigger balls.
Even if the bundy supporters prevail for the moment it wont change anything. They have only won one battle. Just wait & see like the Sioux at little big horn the Bundy,s fate is sealed in the end he will not prevail.
You go ahead and surrender Old Guy! I will die on my feet!
I was afraid that the Feds would not leave. This is not over.
Its not about surrendering or fighting. To me its black & white. Fact 1 Bundy,s cattle are grazing on public land. Fact 2 Bundy previously was paying the grazing fee however he stopped paying. Fact 3 Bundy was receiving befifit from grazing the public land and not paying. Fact 4 Other ranchers are paying the grazing fees the only one not paying is Bundy. To me that,s plenty enough reason for the BLM to seize the cattle. Please explain why its Ok for Bundy to not pay and all the other cattle owners pay? Why should Bundy be allowed to get something for nothing?
What’s scary to me is that your post got more thumbs down than thumbs up, even though you are factually correct. Unfortunately we have too many people in this country whose worldview trumps reality.
If all the ranchers decided to stop paying rent like Bundy, then his supporters would have to ante up more in various taxes to make up the shortfall–the same way we pay more in taxes every time the rich corporations get away without paying their fair share.
All I can do is look at the facts and try and put myself in the shoes of both partys. However the sad fact is our republic has turned into a mob rule democracy. The majority of voters are elated with the fiscal irresponsibility of our elected officials as long as they get their portion of government benefits. Im not a denialist There is no fixing the USA its over. There isn’t a viable political or ballot box solution. The taking parasites greatly outnumber the making producers and that is simply not sustainable. The Hard earned money of the making productive has to compete with the so called free gove money of the taking parasites. And gullible sheeple will line up behind a corrupt govt or a Deadbeat rancher with equal enthuisaum? We are doomed. I wish it wasn’t so but I think not.
Beyond the Constitution, the government ONLY possesses the power WE, THE PEOPLE, allow them to possess. If we fail to kick them to the curb when they get uppity…then we deserve what we get….so it’s time to put our “kicking-to-the-curb” shoes on!
OLD GUY:
Spend your spare time looking up the back taxes owed by Obama’s cabinet members and administration. Even Timothy Geithner, treasury secretary had not paid his taxes for years. Where is the hue and cry from you about these criminals.
To be an administration official and not pay your taxes is far more criminal as far as I am concerned. They should be put in prison and have the key thrown away.
You don’t really care what the REAL reasons are that the feral government is closing all these lands do you? Those reasons are far more criminal than any money the Bundy family own this corrupt government.
BOTH sides are wrong!
“The Ten Commandments forbids Marxism: its states that you should NOT covet thy neighbor’s goods. Socialism is all about taking money from people who earn it and calling it “social justice”. Did the ancients simply understand the cycle of debt far better than Marx and his followers who now run our governments today? They simply justify robbing other people calling it “social justice” to mask what even the ancients said was wrong.”
You sound like me. I agree with you a hundred percent especially as to this great experiment being over. Just the continuing mass third world immigration guarantees that. I see Zimbabwe and South Africa in our future. There is no way to stop it simple demographics trumps all.
Are WE doomed? No. But that’s not the real question.
Are YOU doomed, is the question. And the answer to that is yes.
Because you lack the only weapon that really matters: courage. So bow down and lack the hand that feeds you. Let the chains sit lightly upon you…
I’d prefer you aid those real men who will stand in your place, but I suspect your fear and cowardice will render you silent and still. So be it. The freedom won will be enjoyed by those who fought. And you will die a thousand deaths of a coward, before you finally expire.
The future belongs to the patriots. You have none. As it should be.
Hate to say it but, the John Warner National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2007 (H.R. 5122) has redefined posse comitatus for when local LE cannot handle a domestic situation, the real ? is will us troops fire on us?
Sharon: Congress just allotted 1 billion taxpayers dollars (yes, billion) to Ukraine…and you are worried about whether we don’t get Bundy’s “million” dollar grazing fee or some other rancher’s fee?
That tortoise they are touting as the reason to kick him off is the same tortoise they are euthanizing because the government can’t afford to feed them.
AND the BLM just destroyed a watering hole on that land that was being used by the local wildlife…they have caused them to suffer a horrible death from dehydration.
And there are no more ranchers there grazing those lands. BLM ran them all off to make way, it would appear, for the Chinese and Harry Reid & Son’s bullshit.
AND the Federal Reserve just has to print up some more fake money and give it to the Gates, Dimons and JP Morgans of the world so they can jack up the stock market…that should take care of those imaginary grazing fees.
Bundy deserves to be allowed the grazing land for, say, $1.00 a year just because he is a courageous man.
You talk about “reality,” but NOTHING in our current system is real: Not interest rates, not the people running our government, not our food system, Obamacare…NOTHING. It is all fake and corrupt…and it’s coming to a head.
Who do you really think benefits from Obamacare? I would love to see an investigation of every Congressman, Senator, aide, everybody involved in Obamacare’s implementation and see how much insurance company stock they now own.
AMEN.
What is scary to me is the blm thinks they can decide where free speech is ok and where it is not,that is the truly scary thing!
Old Guy and Sharonsj,
Bundy is the last man standing. All the other ranchers have been driven out of business by the BLM, so there is no one to pay Bundy’s “share.” The fees are to protect the “endangered species” the ones the feds have been euthanizing because there are too many of them.
Endangered, my eye.
Heaven forbid that the ranchers would not pay taxes like corporations, how in hell would we get by? Where would the money come from to support EPA, DHS, BLM, etc. you get the idea. After they get the farmers and ranchers money, the plan is the land.
This really pi**es me off.
We don’t scream when GE of Mexico?? and other 3rd world countries profiting billions each year is subsidized millions by American tax payers but begrudge a hard-working rancher a few hundred thousand?
Are you listening to yourselves?
I don’t say much about moochers/welfare moms, because Israel gets millions each year from our budget.
Who should get our welfare?? Israel or our relatives??
Just think about this for a few minutes; how hypocritical we are.
Well let’s see now: Mexico produces meth and heroin, and ranchers produce beef and other produce. It’s easy to see which side of the line those that are against the ranchers are falling on.
Why would Bundy have to pay “rent” on forage land he already owns? Please tell me that. You people must ahve been raise in the city. Don’t you understand that he owns the land, partially, via forage and water rights? He was paying the “rent” as you call it so that the BLM would help him manage (ie; IMPROVE) the land with roads, waterways and bridges. Thats why he stopped because they didn’t. Its a contract. They breached, he started paying the county instead of the feds. They REALLY didn’t like that. I hear the money is in escrow for the county to spend anytime they want to but can’t substantiate that.
Doh! You missed all that, didn’t ya?
NR: Why DID Bundy pay rent on land, if he already owned it? He has said himself that he does NOT own the land. View the video Mac provided.
It should clear up the “ownership thing” for you. 🙂
The public land in question is not federal land. Mr Bundy refused to hand over cash to the feds. He was willing to pay the state of Nevada. It is a thing called principle. By paying the feds he is fact stating that they have authority over the lands, not the sovereign state. It was also supposed to be about a damn desert tortoise initially. The same tortoise that the feds are now euthanizing due to overpopulation. Old Guy has proven yet again that he has some twisted views on the world. Please don’t ever get sick with anything Old Guy, I wouldn’t want to bust a gut laughing while watching people go all Darwin on your ass and let yet die alone and afraid. (this seems to be your theme)
Really is it true Bundy would gladly pay the state of Nevada? One glaring fact is that in the past Bundy did pay to the feds. Where was the thing called principle when he was previously paying to the feds?
I guess Old (Young) Guy and I will die alone. Watching you all defend a thief.
Everyone must like welfare bitches like bundy taking advantage of them.
FBP, it’s so sad to see what those meds have done to your mind. Bundy is a RANCHER. NOT A WELFARE BITCH. If a rancher can get one day off for any purpose it’s a miracle.
So he worked hard with the cattle
He also works hard at not paying his bills. And now has 100s of people standing by his side agreeing with him.
WHere is the escrow account holding the funds looking for the correct account..
He is stealing from you and me and worked the system to achieve it.
If his family want control of the land he should find some and buy it.
That’s what I do. And yes there is cattle on a lot of my land.
Yes, FBP–let us reap as much as we can from the ranchers–you know, those guys that put food on our tables– to give to Israel and the other 151 countries we give aid to that would cut our throats if given the chance.
Old Guy, not that this will do ANY good but here goes….
Bundy was paying BLM, then BLM STOPPED doing their job on the land that Bundy was paying for….so Bundy stopped paying.
So, Old Guy, the electric company stops your electricity:
or your cable company stops your tv:
or your grocery store keeps your groceries
but still wants you to pay for it….would you?
No need to reply….this was more for my benefit, not yours…
PKLL
Here, old GUY–one story you need to read:
Words from Shiree Bundy Cox:
I have had people ask me to explain my dad’s stance on this BLM fight. Here it is in as simple of terms as I can explain it. There is so much to it, but here it s in a nut shell. My great grandpa bought the rights to the Bunkerville allotment back in 1887 around there. Then he sold them to my grandpa who then turned them over to my dad in 1972. These men bought and paid for their rights to the range and also built waters, fences and roads to assure the survival of their cattle, all with their own money, not with tax dollars. These rights to the land use is called preemptive rights. Some where down the line, to keep the cows from over grazing, came the bureau of land management. They were supposed to assist the ranchers in the management of their ranges while the ranchers paid a yearly allotment which was to be use to pay the BLM wages and to help with repairs and improvements of the ranches. My dad did pay his grazing fees for years to the BLM until they were no longer using his fees to help him and to improve. Instead they began using these money’s against the ranchers. They bought all the rest of the ranchers in the area out with they’re own grazing fees. When they offered to buy my dad out for a penance he said no thanks and then fired them because they weren’t doing their job. He quit paying the BLM but, tried giving his grazing fees to the county, which they turned down. So my dad just went on running his ranch and making his own improvements with his own equipment and his own money, not taxes. In essence the BLM was managing my dad out of business. Well when buying him out didn’t work, they used the endangered species card. You’ve already heard about the desert tortoise. Well that didn’t work either, so then began the threats and the court orders, which my dad has proven to be unlawful for all these years. Now they’re desperate. It’s come down to buying the brand inspector off and threatening the County Sheriff. Everything they’re doing at this point is illegal and totally against the Constitution of the United States of America. Now you may be saying,” how sad, but what does this have to do with me?” Well, I’ll tell you. They will get rid of Cliven Bundy, the last man standing on the Bunkerville allotment and then they will close all the roads so no one can ever go on it again. Next, it’s Utah’s turn. Mark my words, Utah is next.
Then there’s the issue of the cattle that are at this moment being stolen. See even if dad hasn’t paid them, those cattle do belong to him. Regardless where they are they are my father’s property. His herd has been part of that range for over a hundred years, long before the BLM even existed. Now the Feds think they can just come in and remove them and sell them without a legal brand inspection or without my dad’s signature on it. They think they can take them over to boarders, which is illegal, ask any trucker. Then they plan to take them to the Richfield Auction and sell them. All with our tax money. They have paid off the contract cowboys and the auction owner as well as the Nevada brand inspector with our tax dollars. See how slick they are?
Well, this is it in a nut shell. Thanks”
Another story you need to hear:
A Rancher TELLS ALL:
B Hunt wrote:
I live in SW Utah. I grew up on a ranch less than 100 miles from the Bundy’s ranch. My father knows Cliven Bundy. I know Cliven’s son Ryan. This is not a hoax, it is an action of force by the BLM.
The BLM was going to sell the cattle at one of the smallest cattle markets in Utah. No cattle markets in Nevada would take the cattle without a properly signed brand inspection (which the BLM cannot obtain without Cliven Bundy’s signature). The BLM paid the owner of the Utah cattle market $300,000 to do the sale (‘R’ Livestock Connection in Monroe, Utah, owned by one Scott G. Robbins, according to the Utah Business Entity Search). Utah Governor Herbert stepped in and forbid them from bringing the cattle into Utah without the legally required health and brand inspections (which again, require Bundy’s signature) and that no feral cattle are allowed to be imported at all (per Utah statute). Because Bundy claims ownership over maybe 350-500 head of branded cattle, the other 500-700 estimated head of cattle would all be considered feral. BLM officially backed off, but we suspect they are still secretly shipping them through Utah without any permission to do so, to “private” buyers in Colorado. The contract cowboys that the BLM hired to do the roundup are from Sampson Livestock in Meadow, Utah (traitors one and all).
From what I understand, Cliven Bundy owns both the Water Rights and Grazing Rights to all of the land where his cattle run. If Bundy failed to use them, the Grazing Rights would revert to the BLM and would be retired, while the Water Rights would revert to the State of Nevada, likely to be sold to the highest bidder (which would probably be a bidding war between mineral companies that are behind this action with the BLM and the City of Las Vegas which is thirsty for water and has had multiple attempts to buy water–through eminent domain from Utah farmers and ranchers–from Utah, which were all blocked by the Utah Legislature and Utah Governor Herbert). Chances are, the BLM has already filed a claim on the water rights so that they can sell to the highest bidder (instead of the state) and are trying to get the cattle off to show that Bundy cannot use the water beneficially (much like what the US Forest Service and BLM both tried to do to Wayne Hage).
Now, for Cliven Bundy, he’s not fighting this for his cattle or his own livelihood. He recognizes that he will probably die before this fight is over. He has said multiple times that he is fighting this to wake people up about the tyranny of the Federal Government and also to help wake up the western states about getting the rights to their own land back from the federal government, which has repeatedly shut down ranchers and closed off land. (MO = 1st, get all the ranchers, farmers, Native Americans, and foresters that use the land for positive, sustainable production off of the land; 2nd, grab up all the resources; 3rd, close off the lands to public access including camping, hiking, horseback riding, hunting, fishing, boating, shooting, etc; 4th, sell off the resources to the highest bidder regardless of what that will do to the land, the local environment, or the economy; 5th, collect royalties on the resources in perpetuity; 6th, reduce and eliminate all SLS and PILT payments to the states, impoverishing them beyond belief.)
Anyway, thanks for posting about this. It is important for us to be able to raise the appropriate resistance.
And another:
The government owns the rights to minerals both ON and UNDER land that is in its ownership.
The list of minerals underground in the BLM area mines is impressive.
Gypsum-anhydrite Mica (Muscovite) Magnesium Manganese Copper Beryllium Fluorine Lead Uranium Silica Nickel Andalusite Kyanite Sillmanite Feldspar Gold Silver Platinum Group Elements Zinc
Uses of Sheet Mica While ground mica might sell for $300 per metric ton, sheet mica for specialty uses can sell for prices up to $2000 per kilogram. Mica has several properties that make it suitable for very special uses, and it is abundant in the Bunkerville area.
So, OLD GUY–if you are against your brother Bundy, you are for the above scum bags??
And another story:
THe BLM did the same thing to the OX Ranch in the California new York mountains…..I used to live near the ivanpah valley and near the molycorp mine….they had a big waste water pipe blow up and they sent in “the turtle lady” I got to know her and she said the desert tortoise was doing much better around the cows….good food partly digested…….her name was patty……another bit of information that is just something to think about…..on the clean-up of the “radioactive waste” that cost them about 13 million…..I was invited to a BLM and molycorp meeting, at the end they ask if there were any questions…..I questioned why the people cleaning up the waste were storing it in 55 gallon drums right next to the three trailers they were living in if was that dangerous…..typical answer was we will investigate the problem…..a couple days latter clean up was terminated(BLM is actually a sub-corporation of UNITED STATES INCORPORATED, a private foreign owned off-shore corporation since its last incorporation in 1925, copyrighted, trademarked and registered in Puerto Rico).Under the Reorganization Act of Washington District of Columbia, by it’s
own private business charter, neither the BLM, nor any other
federal/corporate agency has lawful/legal authority, jurisdiction or
interstate nexus within the 50 state geographical landmass.
BLM, is actually classified as an: “Agent of Foreign Principle”, under the
intergovernmental Personnel Act.
In other words, they don’t represent the Constitutional Republic or the
interests of the American People but rather, a foreign owned principle
i.e., the international banking/military corporate cartel of London City,
England known as Crown Corporation as their supreme authority.
This has been openly admitted and exposed through Supreme Court cases since
and even before 1938.
So, again, OLD GUY–if you are against your brother Bundy, you are for the above scum bags??
You go Jay-Jay….:)
PKLL
Excellent post!
That information can be found in many more articles. I can’t defend any of DK, Old Guy or others ignorance. They’ve seen it plainly spelled out before them yet they refuse to understand the facts. I must then conclude that they are not “with us” but are against us. By us, I mean, We The People. Anyone that refuses to embrace what appears to be the facts (until other “facts” pop up) is not someone I would consider worthy of contemplation. Until they stop spewing their lies, I consider them quite unAmerican and unPatriotic.
You hear that DK, Old Guy, Gonetoofar, etc? You are spewing lies and untruths. Why are you doing this? You substantiate nothing, neither with words, nor with links. Shill much?
OOOPS! Mistype. Appologies. Strike “Gonetoofar”. Mistake! Mistake. Sorry.
JayJay, that was an awesome post. DK, I hope you read that. maybe you’ll learn smething.
Old guy is right…this is not the right fight for patriots.
I hear everyone on here complaining about the .gov violating the Constitution time and time again.
You can’t expect the government to follow the Constitution and then think you don’t have to.
The US Constitution says that all powers not enumerated are reserved to the several states. The Federal corporation cannot operate out of those bounds. Fine.
Well then, you need to go to the Nevada State Constitution to see which powers they have ceded to the Federal government. It’s all right there. Specifically the “Ordinance” clause and the “Paramount Allegiance” clause. This Constitution was ratified BEFORE Bundy’s family got his lease.
Y’all bitch and moan about no one following the Constitution, yet none of you take the time to find out what it says. You can’t have it both ways. If you want the government to abide by the Constitution than you must too.
You should pick the free speech amendment zones as a Constitutional issue and the thuggery of Fed agents as an issue, but not the land lease rights…Bundy is wrong about that. That’s why Nevada can’t take his payments. They have NO jurisdiction over Federal land. He needs to read his state constitution.
Said the fed sympathizer to the REAL Americans
Good grief….
The above comment was for JRS:
PKLL
Did I get rerouted to MSNBC? Damn, better up my web security or something….I’VE BEEN HIGHJACKED!
Follow the Constitution? Look up Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17 “Enclave Law” or did they change that in the middle of the night too?
Good post! Excellent. Always wondered where that was.
🙁
Bastards!
JRS: OUT-FUCKING-STANDING!!! 🙂
Bundy was a rancher that though he had a way out of paying the fee.
Time finally caught up.
I hoping the small pitiful amount of people showing up show how many smart prepper there are and saw thru this.
Look who did show up. Those 12 SWAT members could of gone thru them like a hot knife through butter.
This does deserve any attention.
If he would of been on my land I would have removed him long ago.
The Feds waited to long to defend land we all own.
And I want my money from bundy from using our land.
yeah and I want back the 8.5 TRILLION
that the Pentagon can’t and won’t account for
or how about the 8 million for the latest Obama vacation
thats a good place to start
That sound like welfare speck to me I want I want I want.
So under your rules it ok for everyone to break them.
speaking as a taxpayer
Mr Bundy has my permission to use “my” little piece of land
in Clark County,in perpetuity, for free
(as long as he promises not to step on any land turtles !)
Satori: While the PTB have a lot of wasted spending to account for; including $150 million for WH vacations, your permission for Rancher Bundy is NOT sufficient permission for him to use taxpayer land for FREE because Taxpayer land carries an indivisible 100% interest in that land for each of US.
Thus if only one American just said “No!”, as I do, then that one “No” is enough to deny Rancher Bundy access to Taxpayer lands for FREE. 🙂
So dk, will you be stopping Harry Reid’s son and the $5 billion chinese solar company from utilizing those lands, too? How about the fracking going on there? You approve of all of that on public land, obviously.
Tsk, tsk.
~GV
GV: At the moment it is not in MY power to stop Reid and the Chinese; or Rancher Bundy either.
But I a working on that. 🙂
GV: With current solar technology it wouldn’t take too large a space in the western deserts to supply ALL electricity to the USA (not to mention American rooftops) now that energy storage technology is developing as it is.
Why hasn’t an American company made this move? Why haven’t Americans demanded that OUR government wean US off hydrocarbons? WE know why.
The advantage of having Billion Dollar Chinese firms investing in America is that the CCP would not be nearly as likely to bomb their own investments. Or the Japanese to bomb theirs; the Dutch, or Germans to bomb theirs. This is the interlocking economic plan by the NWO to bring peace to the earth: for the benefit of the Uber Rich.
Siberia? That’s a different story. 🙂
Bundy hasn’t committed any crime, period! And those 12 SWAT members could be wiped out before getting off any shots. there’s ways to defeat SWAT.
Those 12 men could of walk though that group like walking thur air,
Sorry single action colts and 2 ar don’t have a chance.
There another point no one with real firepower show up.
Those people would of been slaughter if a shot would of happen.
FBP, those 12 SWAT boys would’ve been mowed down before they could even aim a weapon in the right direction, that would’ve been suicide for them. No, it’s feds that would’ve been slaughtered more than any protestors and feds are the ones who need to die. Bundy is not a welfare chiseler or a thief. You sound like someone from MSM.
look at the diction of the posts—either we’ve got more than one fbp on here, or his meds just kicked in.
RB: I am not a cop or an officer of the Court but I am pretty sure that Rancher Bundy has committed trespass, theft, and fraud.
Possibly conspiracy too (its a catch all). 🙁
I want to be reimbursed for the money you and your crap federal government have cost me with you bullshit FSMA legislation.
Hey, ANON, using your reasoning, start collecting from Israel, China, and the other 150 countries given financial aid from our tax dollars.
You probably don’t even pay taxes. You also probably do not have a problem with all the free stuff the illegals get How about Michelles multi million dollar vacations? Bet you love them. At any rate your share of these fees would be about a billionth of a penny.
And I want all of the money that was stoilen from me by the IRS to suppoer bastard ghetto children and career welfare mooching scum. I want my money back from the $10.00 tax the presidential primate put on a carton of my cigarettes so that the aforementioned bastard ghetto children can receive free health care at my expense.
A rancher produces meat, career welfare moochers produce more ghetto scum welfare moochers. Rant Over.
Anonymous, bla bla bla!
Its true about the Sioux and other Indians… they were outnumbered and didn’t have as big of guns… this time its different…MOST Americans are fed up with this government.
Yeah…but they sure got that Custer guy good, didn’t they?
Guess what….Custer didn’t get to violate those Sioux warriors and then go home and sleep in his own bed.
Yep they made sure Custer didn’t do that no more times.
geez old guy , I gave you the benefit of the doubt on your last post but now I see you have thrown in the towel . Good thing most of us feel differently about the outcome . We can not and will not allow this from the government any more
I am always glad to see citizen activism work. This right here is what the 2nd Amendment is all about. Something tells me though that this is not over.
Eyes open. Look sharp.
ALERT:
This is scrolling on the Bundy Ranch page Request for Help from Bundy Family
Jerry Bruckhart Oma III
This just in from Bundy communiations: Many of the men involved in the
early operation have returned home at this point. OMA and the Bundy family
are asking for any private security companies or states militiamen that
would be willing to donate some time to secure the Bundy family through
these times to contact Jerry Bruckhart at 717-682- 8073 for further
information. PLEASE share share share this my fellow patriots!
God Bless and Thank you.
Better to have killed all the Federal officers and posted videos of guys and gals urinating on their bodies. That will send a message.
Saw an interview this earlier on AJ live feed, guy was interviewing a militia/ranger who said (something like) they found the nests the feds were using up in the hill (sniper nests?) and saw that they were dropping in BLM at night….so when they ran across an empty nest, the (militia) would “decorate it,” whatever that means…. 🙂
PKLL
Opps typos….
PKL:
I love typo’s there good with powder sugar or glaze.
N.R. N.S. N.REB
🙂
yuk. I know what that means…
LOL….I’m thinking it’s kinda hard to aim a sniper rifle at citizens laying in poo? Did I get that right?
PKLL
I wonder where the nearest laundromat is from there…
Here’s some more scary info on those Chinese friends of Harry Reid: THIS HAS GOTTEN A WHOLE LOT FARTHER THAN WE THOUGHT.
On March 6, 2012, the Wall Street Journal compiled a state-by-state list of the $17 billion in oil and natural gas equity interests China’s CNOOC and Sinopec have acquired in the United States since 2010.
Colorado: CNOOC gained a one-third stake in 800,000 acres in northeast Colorado and southwest Wyoming in a $1.27-billion pact with Chesapeake Energy Corporation.
Louisiana: Sinopec has a one-third interest in 265,000 acres in the Tuscaloosa Marine Shale after a broader $2.5-billion deal with Devon Energy.
Michigan: Sinopec gained a one-third interest in 350,000 acres in a larger $2.5-billion deal with Devon Energy.
Ohio: Sinopec acquired a one-third interest in Devon Energy’s 235,000 Utica Shale acres in a larger $2.5-billion deal.
Oklahoma: Sinopec has a one-third interest in 215,000 acres in a broader $2.5-billion deal with Devon Energy.
Texas: CNOOC acquired a one-third interest in Chesapeake Energy’s 600,000 acres in the Eagle Ford Shale in a $2.16-billion deal.
Wyoming: CNOOC has a one-third stake in northeast
Colorado and southeast Wyoming after a $1.27-billion pact with Chesapeake Energy. Sinopec gained a one-third interest in Devon Energy’s 320,000 acres as part of a larger $2.5-billion deal.
http://www.wnd.com/2014/04/reid-smelling-anything-but-rosy-in-ranch-fight/#bKXz0RLMz4B3u6Hm.99
Probably better than laying on a red ant nest!
Semper Fi 8541
I guess that depends…
LOL!!!!
Thank you notes and gold stars???
place mats and eating utensils…
With the craziness in Nevada, we can only pray the Bundys will come out of this unscathed…. I only hope the FEDS get out of our life, maybe just a dream, but we can still dream, RIGHT???
HOLY HUMOR
**A father was approached by his small son who told him proudly, “I know what the Bible means!”
His father smiled and replied, “What do you mean, you ‘know’ what the Bible means?
The son replied, “I do know!”
“Okay,” said his father. “What does the Bible mean?”
“That’s easy, Daddy…” the young boy replied excitedly,” It stands for ‘Basic Information Before Leaving Earth..’ (This one is my favorite)
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There was a very gracious lady who was mailing an old family Bible to her brother in another part of the country.
“Is there anything breakable in here?” asked the postal clerk.
“Only the Ten Commandments.” answered the lady.
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“Somebody has said there are only two kinds of people in the world. There are those who wake up in the morning and say, “Good morning, Lord,” and there are those who wake up in the morning and say, “Good Lord, it’s morning.”
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A minister parked his car in a no-parking zone in a large city because he was short of time and couldn’t find a space with a meter.
Then he put a note under the windshield wiper that read: “I have circled the block 10 times. If I don’t park here, I’ll miss my appointment. Forgive us our trespasses.”
When he returned, he found a citation from a police officer along with this note “I’ve circled this block for 10 years. If I don’t give you a ticket I’ll lose my job. Lead us not into temptation.”
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There is the story of a pastor who got up one Sunday and announced to his congregation: “I have good news and bad news. The good news is, we have enough money to pay for our new building program. The bad news is, it’s still out there in your pockets.”
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While driving in Pennsylvania , a family caught up to an Amish carriage. The owner of the carriage obviously had a sense of humor, because attached to the back of the carriage was a hand printed sign… “Energy efficient vehicle: Runs on oats and grass. Caution: Do not step in exhaust.”
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A Sunday School teacher began her lesson with a question, “Boys and girls, what do we know about God?”
A hand shot up in the air. “He is an artist!” said the kindergarten boy.
“Really? How do you know?” the teacher asked.
“You know – Our Father, who does art in Heaven… ”
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A minister waited in line to have his car filled with gas just before a long holiday weekend. The attendant worked quickly, but there were many cars ahead of him. Finally, the attendant motioned him toward a vacant pump.
“Reverend,” said the young man, “I’m so sorry about the delay. It seems as if everyone waits until the last minute to get ready for a long trip.”
The minister chuckled, “I know what you mean. It’s the same in my business.”
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People want the front of the bus, the back of the church, and the center of attention.
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Sunday after church, a Mom asked her very young daughter what the lesson was about.
The daughter answered, “Don’t be scared, you’ll get your quilt.”
Needless to say, the Mom was perplexed. Later in the day, the pastor stopped by for tea and the Mom asked him what that morning’s Sunday school lesson was about.
He said “Be not afraid, thy comforter is coming.”
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The minister was preoccupied with thoughts of how he was going to ask the congregation to come up with more money than they were expecting for repairs to the church building. Therefore, he was annoyed to find that the regular organist was sick and a substitute had been brought in at the last minute.. The substitute wanted to know what to play.
“Here’s a copy of the service,” he said impatiently. “But, you’ll have to think of something to play after I make the announcement about the finances.”
During the service, the minister paused and said, “Brothers and Sisters, we are in great difficulty; the roof repairs cost twice as much as we expected and we need $4,000 more. Any of you who can pledge $100 or more, please stand up.”
At that moment, the substitute organist played “The Star Spangled Banner.”
And that is how the substitute became the regular organist!
When you carry the Bible, Satan gets a headache….. When you open it, he collapses….. When he sees you reading it, he faints….. When he sees that you are living what you read, he flees…… And when you are about to forward this message…. He will try and discourage you.. I just defeated him!!! Any other takers?
Eppe, your humor is priceless. Keep it coming.
Eppe;
Thanks another great one. God bless you.
And to those three trolls that gave this blog a thumbs down. I forgive you but I’m only a man. I think you should look for a higher powers forgiveness.
Amen NR; Makes one wonder, who would thumb down good jokes, yes, yes, I know trolls… Funny how sooo much is going on in this 3rd rock from the Sun, missing plane, Russians taking over dirt that has been in turmoil for centuries, virsues from everywhere going to all parts of this Earth, rogue governments (USA) stealing cattle, crazy stock markets up and down, countries threatning each other with nukes, earthquakes and volcanoes going off everwhere, Blood moons predicting that the world is going to have major changes, 10+ major religions pissing on each other to claim each are right, cats and dogs sleeping together????
What is it going to take to unite this Earth into thinking one way????
Cinton talking about alien invasion???
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/bill-clinton-an-alien-invasion-may-be-the-only-way-to-unite-this-increasingly-divided-world_042014
Jesus, where are you????
Oh, and I forgot, a once great government spending more than they recieve, is this how one runs a household??? I think not, but you all here get the idea….
PAUL RYAN’S PROPOSED BUDGET CUTS
A List the Republican Budget will cut
Notice S.S. and the military are NOT on this list.
These are all the programs that the new Republican House has proposed cutting.
Read to the end.
* Corporation for Public Broadcasting Subsidy — $445 million annual savings.
* Save America ’s Treasures Program — $25 million annual savings.
* International Fund for Ireland — $17 million annual savings.
* Legal Services Corporation — $420 million annual savings.
* National Endowment for the Arts — $167.5 million annual savings.
* National Endowment for the Humanities — $167.5 million annual savings.
* Hope VI Program — $250 million annual savings.
* Amtrak Subsidies — $1.565 billion annual savings.
* Eliminate duplicating education programs — H.R. 2274 (in last Congress),
authored by Rep. McKeon, eliminates 68 programs at a savings of $1.3 billion annually.
* U.S. Trade Development Agency — $55 million annual savings.
* Woodrow Wilson Center Subsidy — $20 million annual savings.
* Cut in half funding for congressional printing and binding — $47 million annual savings.
* John C. Stennis Center Subsidy — $430,000 annual savings.
* Community Development Fund — $4.5 billion annual savings.
* Heritage Area Grants and Statutory Aid — $24 million annual savings.
* Cut Federal Travel Budget in Half — $7.5 billion annual savings
* Trim Federal Vehicle Budget by 20% — $600 million annual savings.
* Essential Air Service — $150 million annual savings.
* Technology Innovation Program — $70 million annual savings.
* Manufacturing Extension Partnership (MEP) Program — $125 million annual savings..
* Department of Energy Grants to States for Weatherization — $530 million annual savings.
* Beach Replenishment — $95 million annual savings.
* New Starts Transit — $2 billion annual savings.
· Exchange Programs for Alaska Natives, Native Hawaiians, and Their Historical Trading Partners in Massachusetts — $9 million annual savings
* Intercity and High Speed Rail Grants — $2.5 billion annual savings.
* Title X Family Planning — $318 million annual savings.
* Appalachian Regional Commission — $76 million annual savings.
* Economic Development Administration — $293 million annual savings.
* Programs under the National and Community Services Act — $1.15 billion annual savings.
* Applied Research at Department of Energy — $1.27 billion annual savings.
* Freedom CAR and Fuel Partnership — $200 million annual savings..
* Energy Star Program — $52 million annual savings.
* Economic Assistance to Egypt — $250 million annually.
* U.S. Agency for International Development — $1.39 billion annual savings.
* General Assistance to District of Columbia — $210 million annual savings.
* Subsidy for Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority — $150 million annual savings.
* Presidential Campaign Fund — $775 million savings over ten years.
* No funding for federal office space acquisition — $864 million annual savings.
* End prohibitions on competitive sourcing of government services.
* Repeal the Davis-Bacon Act — More than $1 billion annually.
* IRS Direct Deposit: Require IRS to deposit fees for some services it offers (such as processing payment plans for taxpayers)
into the Treasury, instead of allowing to remain as part of its budget– $1.8 billion savings over ten years.
* Require collection of unpaid taxes by federal employees — $1 billion total savings. WHAT THE HELL IS THIS ABOUT – a billion dollars for a no-brainer?
* Prohibit taxpayer funded union activities by federal employees — $1.2 billion savings over ten years.
* Sell excess federal properties the government does not make use of — $15 billion total savings.
* Eliminate death gratuity for Members of Congress. WHAT???
* Eliminate Mohair Subsidies — $1 million annual savings.
* Eliminate taxpayer subsidies to the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change — $12.5 million annual savings WELL ISN’T THAT SPECIAL
* Eliminate Market Access Program — $200 million annual savings.
* USDA Sugar Program — $14 million annual savings.
* Subsidy to Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) — $93 million annual savings.
* Eliminate the National Organic Certification Cost-Share Program — $56.2 million annual savings.
* Eliminate fund for Obamacare administrative costs — $900 million savings.
* Ready to Learn TV Program — $27 million savings.
* HUD Ph.D. Program.
* Deficit Reduction Check-Off Act.
* TOTAL SAVINGS: $2.5 Trillion over Ten Years
My question is, what is most of this doing in the budget in the first place?
Maybe this is why Democrats are attacking Paul Ryan. . They are trying to protect themselves
Cats and ducks living together, what is next???
http://www.coolestone.com/media/8396/The-Cat-And-The-Ducklings/#.U0no3KCpND9
I needed that! Thanks.
And commercials like Terminex and Walmart using AC-DC music in thier commercials, Walmart in ’78 banned AC-DC albums from thier stores, now the use thier musical sounds, ah, the ironic syncronicity????
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/the-next-ruby-ridge-or-waco-what-the-feds-are-doing-to-bundy-ranch-affects-us-all-america_042014
Ha, I figured it out, how to speed up moderation
It was a test…
Splain…..
I placed a website, and quickly did a comment on it, but alas, it still took 15+ minutes to work…
Here’s what I do to stay out of moderation.
Don’t know if all pcs do this, but if I copy/paste
that link without the http://www.
and place it in my search bar…my pc just places the http://www. automatically.
So I would give this as the link and not go in moderation:
thedailysheeple.com/the-next-ruby-ridge-or-waco-what-the-feds-are-doing-to-bundy-ranch-affects-us-all-america_042014
I wondered why you were doing that, sneaky Pete, er, uh, JayJay.
HEADLINES FROM THE YEAR: 2059
Ozone created by electric cars now killing millions in the seventh largest country in the world, Mexifornia, formerly known as California .
White minorities still trying to have English recognized as Mexifornia’s third language.
Spotted Owl plague threatens northwestern United States crops and livestock.
Baby conceived naturally! Scientists stumped.
Couple petitions court to reinstate heterosexual marriage.
Iran still closed off; physicists estimate it will take at least 10 more years before radioactivity decreases to safe levels.
France pleads for global help after being taken over by Jamaica . No other country comes forward to help the beleaguered nation!
Castro finally dies at age 112; Cuban cigars can now be imported legally, but President Chelsea Clinton has banned all smoking.
George Z. Bush says he will run for President in 2060.
Postal Service raises price of first class stamp to $17.89 and reduces mail delivery to Wednesdays only.
85-year $75.8 billion study: Diet and exercise is the key to weight loss.
Average weight of Americans drops to 250 lbs.
Global cooling blamed for citrus crop failure for third consecutive year in Mexifornia and Floruba.
Japanese scientists have created a camera with such a fast shutter speed they now can photograph a woman with her mouth shut.
Abortion clinics now available in every High School in United States .
Senate still blocking drilling in ANWR even though gas is selling for 4532 Pesos per liter and gas stations are only open on Tuesdays and Fridays.
Massachusetts executes last remaining conservative.
Supreme Court rules punishment of criminals violates their civil rights.
A Couple Finally Had Sexual Harmony, they Had simultaneous Headaches.
Average height of NBA players is now nine feet seven inches with
Only 3 illegitimate children.
New federal law requires that all nail clippers, screwdrivers, fly swatters and rolled-up newspapers must be registered by January 2060..
IRS sets lowest tax rate at 75 percent..
Floruba voters still having trouble with voting machines.
Now, send this to whomever you want and as many as you want, then, guess what….NOTHING will happen. No miracles, no money, absolutely nothing, except you might make someone smile or be very very scared.
I Love This Country!
It’s The Government That Scares Me!
Stop organized crime.
Re-elect no one.
And the cattle are being set free to graze again…. Per Fox news….
I think it is time for an adult beverage….
Chelsea said she’ll take one of those Cuban Cigars when they’re available. The fruit don’t fall far from the tree.
Interesting take from Jefferson’s version of the Bible he put together, right or wrong, he was a man ahead of his time…
http://thehumanist.com/magazine/march-april-2012/features/the-bible-according-to-thomas-jefferson
Many thanks for the corny Bible jokes!
While everyone is focused on the Bundy ranch in Nevada, the feds are seizing land everywhere.
The Diamond Bar ranch in New Mexico
http://www.wnd.com/2004/02/23192/
Texas rancher along the Red River
http://misguidedchildren.com/domestic-affairs/2014/04/red-river-rumble-blm-wants-to-seize-90000-acres-of-texas-ranchers-land/18596
And God only knows where else these assholes are seizing property.
See Sixpacks post on previous article. Land grabbing all over the place. He has lots of links and info…
PKLL
Just go to startpage.com, where they don’t log your IP or take your info, and type in
“government land grabs acquisitions” without the “”
I just had to settle for just picking a few.
The Diamond Bar ranch were the ones threatening and shooting at hikers in Gila National forest.
believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see…
Yeah…..Durango Kid will come along and tell you how these people all broke some agreement and deserve what they are getting.
Because….the government NEVER does the wrong thing.
LOL! Good one…
PKLL
They are seriously going to ‘mess with Texas’? Now that the info is out…it will be interesting to see where this goes….
Apparently, “Oathkeeper Says: At Bundy’s Ranch FEDs are RUSSIAN”
Link
https:// http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOQ3zjJJ4YQ
Yup, I heard that too…
That will alter my perceptions of Russia in a heart beat, but let me say that there are thousands of naturalized Russians in America. My cab driver is from Ukraine.
He is not part of the Russian military and never was. Let’s not get side-swiped by this. We know the U.S. govt is pressing us into war with Russia, so put some concentrations of Russian-speaking people out where people can see/hear them and see if public sentiments change
That’s a pretty damn slick false flag—a false flag that may not have even happened.
Let’s be damn sure we’re right. Russians ARE NOT THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO CAN SPEAK RUSSIAN OR SIMILAR LANGUAGES.
One of my prime directives still stands in this case—Believe none of what you hear and only half of what you see.”
That was one of my grandmothers favorite sayings. The other one was ‘ do anything you can for anybody–give them the shirt off your back. But if they cross THAT line, you better not piss on their ass if they are on fire.” Her way of saying be compassionate, but don’t be taken advantage of.
There is wisdom with age.
Remember it is not the age, just the mileage and terrain….
In that case, I must be a Guru by now…I’ve been around the block so many times, the sun’s getting jealous…
Al My Granny ever seemed to say alot was…”Oh NO! There goes the…Neighboorhood”….It first began when I was 10 yrs old and My street began to go Dark.
Every year they got a block or two closer. The block busters would move them in in the middle of the night. Those areas now resemble war zones where before they looked like a town in a Disney movie. But we have more diversity and a richer life experience.
I can only hope that one day themguys has to depend on a black man or a Jew to save his or his family’s life. I’d pay good money to be there and watch him humble himself!
@Nopittypartyhere….
Your grandma was a pistol wasn’t she? LOL!
Love it. My kind of grandma!
Yes she was. I always wanted to “grow up to be like her”. I remember working (I was 10) with her in her old country store that was her hobby. She didn’t sit still much. She had a revolver that looked like Clint east woods in Dirty Harry under the counter. I pity the fool that would have messed with her. She almost shot my uncle who came home from college unexpected late one night and thought it would be funny to scare her. Love her and miss her much.
Apparently, “Oathkeeper Says: At Bundy’s Ranch FEDs are RUSSIAN”
Link
watch?v=QOQ3zjJJ4YQ
Actually, what he said was, he heard what sounded to him like Russian. He was being very careful because he wasn’t too sure of what he saw/heard. You can’t ask for better than cautious observation from a neutral perspective.
Notice even he didn’t jump to conclusions, just made an observation and expressed concern so the rest of us could do our part and look for more info.
Someone will chime in on it soon.
If it was Oathkeeper, then I would tend to give it a higher degree of reliability. Afterall….most of these guys are cops…i.e. trained observers.
It wasn’t the oathkeeper’s account that I was questioning. He was careful not to get ahead of himself.
Bundy and those brave patriots are all heroes and should be commended!!
Just kidding, haha they should all be thrown in jail.
Long live the government. Never wrong, enforcing only the best and most just laws that they see fit. Hail to the king. (sarc off) Fuck the government. This country is not theirs for the taking. States and individuals have rights. 86% of Nevada’s land is CONTROLLED by the Fed’s BLM, not OWNED. The owners should do the controlling. This is where the bullshit lays.
Lawford, f#$% you!
Lawford:
Get off the governments tit and grow up.
GOD BLESS THOSE PATRIOTS!!!!!!
N.R N.S. N.REB
JTL
Are you nuts? What a stupid thing to say or think. You will find one day that those PATRIOTS will come to protect you and yours.
Thrown in jail. What law did they break? OH!! Telling Obulshit & his storm troopers to F*(K off.
I can’t wait to see you eat your words!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sgt.
…and you say that because…
OK. You don’t have a clue. Yep. Nailed it. I understand now. The ones who stomp the Bundy’s simply don’t like it when a hard working family gets ahead. WAY ahead. Class warfare at its finest. They are pretty wealthy but they got that way by managing to keep the wealth in the family. They started with nothing in the 1880s.
Reading The title of this article seems to indicate that the BlM & feds has not backed down? Also Bundys son was indeed released however he received citations. So he wasn’t released scott free. Ive got a bad feeling about this whole thing. Life is never fair. Two wrongs never make a right.
“Two wrongs never make a right.”
may be true
but it damn sure never stopped the FEDS from using that philosophy
now has it ???
Piper here…
us old guys have a bad feeling about this…
Now… they KNOW who is in the militia in support of the Bundy’s, and WHO will react with intention to go up against the Feds, and who they’re communicating with, and who their support is, and where their support networks are…
Think about it.
Drones, NSA, you think this was just about cattle?
Now we hear about Dingy Harry and the Chinese wanting that land for a solar power station?
Did the Feds achieve their goal…
Cry havoc, and let slip the dogs of war…
The first rule of warfare?
All war is deception.
Exactly why I’m gonna pick up a copy of “The Art of War”.
You mean like this one I have as an ebook?
SUN TZU ON THE ART OF WAR
THE OLDEST MILITARY TREATISE IN THE WORLD
Translated from the Chinese
By LIONEL GILES, M.A. (1910)
[This is the basic text of Sun Tzu on the Art of War. It was
extracted from Mr. Giles’ complete work as titled above. The
commentary itself, which, of course includes this work embedded
within it, has been released as suntzu10.txt (or suntzu10.zip).
This is being released only as an adjunct to that work, which
contains a wealth of commentary upon this text.]
I. LAYING PLANS
1. Sun Tzu said: The art of war is of vital importance
to the State.
2. It is a matter of life and death, a road either
to safety or to ruin. Hence it is a subject of inquiry
which can on no account be neglected.
3. The art of war, then, is governed by five constant
factors, to be taken into account in one’s deliberations,
when seeking to determine the conditions obtaining in the field.
4. These are: (1) The Moral Law; (2) Heaven; (3) Earth;
(4) The Commander; (5) Method and discipline.
5,6. The Moral Law causes the people to be in complete
accord with their ruler, so that they will follow him
regardless of their lives, undismayed by any danger.
7. Heaven signifies night and day, cold and heat,
times and seasons.
8. Earth comprises distances, great and small;
danger and security; open ground and narrow passes;
the chances of life and death.
9. The Commander stands for the virtues of wisdom,
sincerely, benevolence, courage and strictness.
10. By method and discipline are to be understood
the marshaling of the army in its proper subdivisions,
the graduations of rank among the officers, the maintenance
of roads by which supplies may reach the army, and the
control of military expenditure.
11. These five heads should be familiar to every general:
he who knows them will be victorious; he who knows them
not will fail.
12. Therefore, in your deliberations, when seeking
to determine the military conditions, let them be made
the basis of a comparison, in this wise:–
13. (1) Which of the two sovereigns is imbued
with the Moral law?
(2) Which of the two generals has most ability?
(3) With whom lie the advantages derived from Heaven
and Earth?
(4) On which side is discipline most rigorously enforced?
(5) Which army is stronger?
(6) On which side are officers and men more highly trained?
(7) In which army is there the greater constancy
both in reward and punishment?
14. By means of these seven considerations I can
forecast victory or defeat.
15. The general that hearkens to my counsel and acts
upon it, will conquer: let such a one be retained in command!
The general that hearkens not to my counsel nor acts upon it,
will suffer defeat:–let such a one be dismissed!
16. While heading the profit of my counsel,
avail yourself also of any helpful circumstances
over and beyond the ordinary rules.
17. According as circumstances are favorable,
one should modify one’s plans.
18. All warfare is based on deception.
19. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable;
when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we
are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away;
when far away, we must make him believe we are near.
20. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder,
and crush him.
21. If he is secure at all points, be prepared for him.
If he is in superior strength, evade him.
22. If your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to
irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant.
23. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest.
If his forces are united, separate them.
24. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where
you are not expected.
25. These military devices, leading to victory,
must not be divulged beforehand.
26. Now the general who wins a battle makes many
calculations in his temple ere the battle is fought.
The general who loses a battle makes but few
calculations beforehand. Thus do many calculations
lead to victory, and few calculations to defeat:
how much more no calculation at all! It is by attention
to this point that I can foresee who is likely to win or lose.
Walt; sent a capy to you and Mac thru Mac’s email….
C’mon now, you folks don’t think that faces, license plates were being photo’d from about 30,000 feet do you? Gives the fed the chance to utilize and check out their toys we all bought them. Feds, cowboys, ranchers, militia and drones…..sounds like quite the party.
BULLSHIT. I spoke with a friend of mine moments ago by phone, and she is AT the Bundy Ranch as we speak. What we have is a few people who went there looking for DRAMA. When they didn’t get it, they decided to start their own. let them keep doing it, and they will get arrested for STUPIDITY, as in disorderly conduct stupidity.
More information: http://americanpreppernation.ning.com/forum/topics/the-bureau-of-land-management-has-announced-it-will-stop-the-roun
disorderly conduct is a bull shit charge that means anything and everything the police says it does
and what is the other
oh yeah
10th degree tresspass or such
another B.S. charge used when they don’t really have a crime
…but it sounds menacing to the stupid sheep…mission accomplished.
Sat:
You are right. Disorderly Conduct means some one is afraid of your action toward them. LEO’s Can not be afraid while working. Ruling Illinois Supreme Court.
BLM is trying to find something to cause a False Flag.
Sgt.
BLM has pulled out. Cattle to be released momentarily.
???..is that NINA in the black shirt and black pants??
I hope it was.
God bless you brave American patriotic bastards!
Your brass balls clanking are as sweet sounding as the Liberty Bell!
Thank you.
As a tax payer, voter, hard working middle class American citizen, I am okay if Mr. Bundy wants to use that land to graze his cattle. Unlike the other leaches of society, this man is working. And because the govt is by the people and for the people, then as a collective, shouldn’t we the people decide the fate of Bundy? Let the man be.
And you have every right to your feelings. However that is not the way things actually are. Life isn’t fair. The counstition guarntees Life Libety & the Pursuit of Happiness. Just the Pursuit of not the item of happiness itself.
And more and more, the illegitimate government in D.C. tries to deprive us of that pursuit…either by throwing obstacles in the way, or by out and out taking it.
Federal nannies……leave us alone and let us live our lives. We ask not your aid. And we definitely ask that you not take from others to give to us. Just LEAVE US ALONE.
AND Kynase, we get burgers. 🙂
What do we get from Israel, China, and the other 150 countries we send aid each year??
Fluoride from China, aspartame, Seventy-five percent of children’s school supplies tested in a laboratory had elevated levels of toxic phthalates, including popular Disney, Spiderman, and Dora branded school supplies such as vinyl lunchboxes, backpacks, 3-ring binders, raincoats, and rainboots.
All of the tea samples contained a variety of pesticides
The results showed that all 18 tea samples contained a mixture of at least three different kinds of pesticides. In total, as many as 29 different pesticides were detected. Six of the samples contained more than 10 different kinds of pesticides. As many as 17 different kinds of pesticides were found on Richun’s Tieguanyin 803 tea.
As Natural News has already reported, food from China is frequently found to contain alarming levels of heavy metals (arsenic, cadmium, lead, mercury) and other contaminants.
The news on food fraud out of China “is a steady stream of controversies ranging from adulteration with counterfeit ingredients like melamine in dairy products, to widespread outbreaks of animal diseases like avian flu, and high levels of pesticide residues,”
and that’s just a start on China only…
But they have clean air though…….
…only if it comes in a can…
Thank you, Sixpack! I’ll throw that frozen fish I got in the freezer away, now. It says from China. I noticed when I ate a piece awhile back, it didn’t go well with with me… trash it! 🙂
Actually, you’re not the first person who has said that to me recently. An elderly friend of mine just had to do the same thing with some frozen chicken.
a 7.6 quake being reported in the Solomons
tsunami warning issued
earlier Nicaragua had to quakes of 6 plus
They will back out for a couple weeks and be right back at it…they will wait till people get bored and leave.
I agree in the end the bundy will lose. Many of those who went looking for trouble will soon face the wrath of the federal government.
There’s enough “wrath” to go around. I think they’ll leave the ranchers alone if we keep Harry Reid’s ass on the run.
We need his head on a pike, as a warning for the next “Who Wants To Be A Millionaire” contestant…
Great posts Sixpack.
You have surely burned the midnight oil on this subject. I am proud to know you my patriot friend. You are not afraid of the truth, and not afraid to support truth tellers.
Thank you granny—it’s what I do, it’s who I am.
Midnight oil?
Yes lets have some midnight oil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdvhiHryIRA#aid=P-yUDHTUbYg
The backbone of this country’s broken
The land is cracked and the land is sore
Farmers are hanging on by their fingertips
We cursed and stumbled across that shore
And the world won’t stand still
Blue collar work it don’t get you nowhere
You just go round and round in debt
Somebody’s got you on that treadmill, mate
And I hope you’re not beaten yet
Truganini’s in chains
Here’s the REAL Midnight Oil, as far as I’m concerned—
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejorQVy3m8E
i’m betting this will rear up again….any takers?
yup….see post at top…
PKLL
yup, getting ready to hear second verse…….
This is far from over, and those militia guys LOL . Love those beer guts
At least they showed up…….guts and all.
PKLL
A kinda like the beer guts…it beats all all brawn and no balls/brains any say.
…any DAY.
LOL!
Was just over youtube, cell Towers are down,Patriots on one side of the road, fed on the other side, feds saying they will shot, Bundy and others went after Cattle with Police and SWAT Escort. seems Strange..inforwars feed is down. dont seem like their going home as told.Their is only one guy with live feed left.
Its hard to tell whats going on? conflicting reports?
the fog of war, perhaps?
Drudge’s live feed is down too…
FOX’s reporting is so skewed to make the patriots look bad. They are not accurately reporting the facts.
PKLL
THAT’S WHY THEIR FEED IS STILL UP AND RUNNING.
Yup….what you said….convenient huh?
PKLL
Why we all need amateur radio…getting signed up for a class soon
I watched a video of Fox news; one lady in support of Bundy and stories circulating about cattle damaging resources said, well, in all reality if the cattle were illegal immigrants they’d be handed EBT cards and free housing…or something like that.
Great come back!!!
I am happy but suspicious,no one died and that is a good thing.That said,is land federal or state(is actually taxpayers),what is being done to see this free speech zone nonsense ended,did blm actually kill tortoises last year instead of just setting free and giving em a chance/is reid and perhaps his son involved in some shady land deal,all these questions need answers.That said,am glad I did some e-mails on this,let the supposed powers that be know the country is watching and with Waco date a week away country really not in the mood for anymore bullshit,that said,be happy,keep prepping and stay vigilant,will raise a few beers to those directly involved in this issue and those who e-mailed/called/spread word ect.,oh,and will raise a beer for the tortoise,tough and cute little critters they are!
Maybe they are waiting for the Waco date before they raid the Bundys. I think I’d move my family before that and stand with patriots only. We know the govt will not think twice about murdering women and children.
Well,6,they better this time,despite a martial order ect. do not believe they are really ready for response from citizens this time,eh,time will tell.
Funny how so many of these things go down right around April 19th.
(By the way….that’s the anniversary of Lexington and Concord)
I often think that that’s the Federal tyrant’s way of putting it in our face.
Bundy is a theif and a criminal. He is stealing from you and you want to support him.
He is using your land and not paying for it.
He is a welfare bitch. He expect you to let him use your land for free
and then stands behind you when the bill collector shows up.
If this is what you all see as a good man you better relook at your life.
FBP, PLEASE get off those FDA-approved meds you’ve been on. You can’t see the forest for the trees.
face:
You have your view that he is a welfare bitch.
That is not the way I see it (my View)
And if you are right then he is a hard working welfair bitch.
Thats better than those mopes that never worked a day in their lifes.
Plus you said it is your land as fair as I’m cocerned he can use my part all he wants.
Me like’m a good steak!;-)
N.R. N.S. N.REB
Facebook,in theory the state owns the land and yes,he did pay country grazing fees,just not fed fees which seems are not justified/legal in this case.
Dammit!,meant county grazing fees!
Oh fuck, I knew it—you couldn’t keep your other nic going could you?
@Facebook Page: What actually did Bundy steal? Who did he harm? In court, if you claim something from someone, you have to show damage. I challenge anyone (other than harry reid) to show any damage or something taken from them by Cliven Bundy. He is simply homesteading on public land to produce a consumable commodity in the marketplace. Does he benefit from his production? Absolutely…as he should. Why should anyone else lay claim to for taxes, grazing rights, or otherwise?
If public funds are being used to maintain that area (and don’t give me the tortoise maintenance excuse cause thats a lie and everybody knows it) then he should pay ‘something’. But what is fair? And is the correct entity charging him? I venture that the Feds have no authority in the first place to charge him ANYTHING
Reid can’t claim a loss, because what he was selling wasn’t his to sell.
Sterlingsilver, AMEN to your comments. I agree totally. But FBP and DK can’t see the forest for the trees.
FP
Did your Mommy drop you on your head when you were a baby.
Sgt.
yes, but apparently she picked up the wrong pile…
Thats a good one. That will be remembered.
SP
LMAO!!
Sgt.
now JOHN WAYNE does not have to rollover in his grave. he can rest in peace. rollover Beethoven. not freedom!
Upon initially researching this issue…it didn’t take long to figure out which side I was on…and my decision had nothing to do with grazing rights (which I completely don’t understand). But when one side posts a sign that instructs WE THE PEOPLE where we can exercise our 1st amendment rights, there is no further debate.
This is where the fight should be and no one is talking about it.
It all about showing up with guns.
FBP, neither you nor DK understand the real issue here.
It was a trick they are threatening to SHOOT protesters. Catch up via Alex Jones Info Wars. He is only getting info out of there. It looks BAD!!
FB
as usual
I think you are missing the point and real substance of this matter
this is a MUCH bigger issue than grazing fees
I think it is the other way around
This is a non issue and he and we are making it a big issue.
This was not a place to make a stand.
And I do hope it go away with just a lot of words. I don’t want to see a war start because our side decided to defend someone over their money they did not spend for services rendered,
Round 2 will involve the media lambasting these guys as “terrorists”.
Round 3 will involve tanks.
There will not be a Round 4.
your probably right
because “violence doesn’t solve anything”
thats why the FEDS use violence or the threat thereof
24/7
As Robert Heinlein once said (paraphrasing):
“Tell the ex-inhabitants of Hiroshima and Nagasaki that violence never solved anything”
I would ask Robert Heinlein to ask the Japs of Hiroshima and Nagasaki what the hell did they expect when their military went and invaded other countries, exploiting and killing innocent people? What did they expect when they attacked US? I lost several relatives to the Japs in WW2 and have no use for them. I can like and get along with people from any group who suffered at the hands of the Japs, but I cannot have any good feelings for Japs.
Tanks can be destroyed
I wanted to see if I could load this to shtf..I wanted to see if I could load this to shtf..http://www.bestgore.com/guest-post/barack-hussein-obama-weapons-of-war-do-not-belong-on-our-streets/
This is a pic of a tank in Jefferson County Colorado,for the Sheriff’s Department. They must feel safe now..
That not a tank. It is an armored personnel carrier.
And an old old one to boot. My 300 win mag can make swiss cheese of it.
Works good in the dirt.
That is not a dangerous war machine. It is a pretty swamp mudder. Are you sure it not the one they sponsor in their local mud races.
M113 APC Vietnam Era
Comment from AJ site:
FreeThinker • 3 minutes ago
rangers will be meeting at holiday inn express in misquite and then convoy to vegas. Think they need some tails on them. per mesquite police scanner.
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I bet that the founding fathers that are looking down on us are smiling from ear to ear.
There was a Bunkerhill on there is a Bunkerville.
At lease Bunkerville was not bloody. Now lets see what the next Concord will be.
I pray it goes well for the Patriots.
N.R N.S. N.REB
I say they need another freedom loving group in Nevada,how about “The Nevada Tortoises”.They have survived for eons in tough conditions,been killed by the feds and used by the feds,and yet,they are still around!
So, with the help of the BLM and FAA, what we are seeing here is the Obama Administration, Russian oligarch wannabe Harry Reid and their friends on both sides of the aisle secretly ceding over large tracts of western US lands to Communist Red China under the guise of various government laws, mandates and agreements, in this case a turtle handily classified by the EPA as endangered.
Exactly right….
PKLL
Its more like..257 seperate Huge land sections across entire usa designated as new enterprize work zones or something like that.
They have tons of state and fed workers all working in cahoots with china investors. That do the set ups and paperwork etc. IDAHO’s Govner, Butch Otter is it? Has become the first govner and state if I recall correctly that has signed off already on a 50 Sq Mile Land mass where china co is going to Build an entire CITY complete with Manufacturing factorys, Houses, Stores, Gas stations etc etc…A REAL normal city 50 sq miles in total size but ONLY China nationals will be allowed in there to work and LIVE.
AND from all I read so far, that china city in middle of IDAHO State will Remain under china LAWS and customs similar to an embasy now is. AND the US Const will have ZERO or close to zero bearing or law control within said 50 sq mile zone china city.
AND USA Citizens will be BARRED from Entry at all….Unless of course china officials there inside city allows for usa citizens entry…JOBS FOR Chinese KOMMIE Nationals!…NO usa folks jobs!…KOMMIE China RULED 50 sq Miles..Thats… FIFTY SQUARE MILE CITY!
With 256 MORE same type cities as fast as state and fed worker group along with “Private-Public” Think Tank Orgs can do the paper work etc and find enough china investors.
Whos to say china wont bring into said cities and work zones Kommie trained chinese SOLDIERS under a Guize of china local citizenery for work force there?
Maybe DHS Khazars, Hobammy & Sheboony wify, or Pelosi and Schumer or Finestien plans on telling Us all whats really going down inside such 257 Kommie front cities huh?
Sure they will!….I bet detroit is Next up for such work zone rehabs eh…THIS is what all that talk by GW Bush was about every chance he had he mentioned “PPP”;s aka “Public Private Partnerships” for the 21st cent Workers model etc eh….PPP= A Brand New name or term that really means CORP’S+FED Govnt=FACIZIM!!!
Actually a Blend of KOMMIES+FACISTS!
PS did NOT see any mention on that $$$$ CUTS by Repubs List posted above to HALT Payments to Rabid Aperthide Racist State of Israel eh?…Theres a HUGE saveing potentials!…Min saving of $30 BILLION Guarenteed, every 10 yrs renewed….PLUS Tons More tens Billions of $$$ for various Pet projects, Military adventures to exterminate all goyims jews Hate…And Many weapons, arms, ammos, Bombs, Nukes etc etc that usa gives to Khazar israel state.
I rekon Ryan aint so serious or Honestly seeking real savings eh….That or Else hes another Bought and Paid for Sayanim(good) Goyishie Boy too, as suspected by many.
China’s got vacant cities in china already—WTF do they need to build one HERE for?
There for us….slave labor….
PKLL
I guess it’ll be a while before we get short on FIRE WOOD.
Because we need them to keep buying our debt. With the worthless asswipe dollar, the chinks need something tangible for the worthless paper they’re holding…..Land.
I disagree. WE don’t NEED China to keep buying our debt—the government does, to pay THEIR debts. I would rather the Chinese pull out altogether and let the chips fall where they may…
Will America collapse? Probably. But I would rather kick the Chinese to the curb now, suffer through the collapse and come out of it with our country intact and STILL AMERICAN OWNED AND OPERATED!
Curious as to how your mind became so warped. Are you related to Dear Leader O? That explains it.
SOVO: Get a Fuckin CLUE! maybe Then you can post a relevant info messg. Or even a counter posting that provably refutes what I or others say eh.
Stupid remarks like the last one aimed at me are proof you let your kneee jerk emotional response rule your thoughts. IE: I posted that my Granny said often “There goes the neighborhood” etc..
So are you sovo going to deny that EVERY Former ALL White beautifull Picture book city like detroit and most every major city nationwide, that Now since african savage black jungle dweller types invaded in massive numbers to take over whiteys domains is NOT proper of me to blame blacks for destroying all those once swell cities?
Who the fuck do You blame fool idiot? Lemme guess! You blame whiteys of course eh!….Ok so go Lick more black and jew ass sovo…Be sure to vote lib kommies always like vast Majority of those two groups do too…
Last voter results tallys I read shows Blacks 96% vote dems always…Jews a “bit” less at 87% always vote kommie dem libs….So ergo since kommies, is whom so fucked up america the past 100 yrs, and since jews invented communism, and such vast majority jews and blacks all always vote kommie dems…Ergo…Most usa troubles CAN and Should be laid at foot of blacks & jews.
And a hundred More stupid name calls or snide remarks by SOVO or other naysayers still in Denial of such Factual Truths…Wont change it one iota.
What will change things for the better is folks like ME who at least try to educate others to such Facts and Truths sovo…Yet we never run low on folks like YOU sovo who so hate such facts and truths you feel, based on childish emotional kneejerk reactions, compelled to attempt to stiffle folks like me from outting these truths….Its….NOT…Working to …Swell of late is it sovo….Because folks like You can never stop truth forever. Hey them kommie jews had a good run no?…They own all of MSM, newspapers, TV, TV News, Hollywood, major magazines, usa state dept and most all fed govnt now, and were able to stiffle truth, Hide facts, keep lies believable for the past 50-75+ yrs…
UNTILL!!!! The Internet started to be recognized as a media that even the smallest of little guys and avg reg folks can use to get the Facts and Truths with tons of verifiable evidence OUT there eh!
so the main question Now is why does SOVO and others like he/she still reject truth, and still try to stiffle us who speak or write it eh?
Ok go have another kneeejerk emotional based response attack fool. Then PROVE ME WRONG! (good luck with That eh)
Ever notice how the EPA is the “bitch” that does the dirty work? You ever see all their “headings” on their website? They got their stinking hands into everything!
This is my personal favorite: “EPA engages with partners around the world to address environmental challenges.”
Not to mention: “EPA recently launched a case study on Taiwan’s 4-in-1 Recycling Program.”
“Opportunities to Reduce Black Carbon Emissions in South Asia”
How far DOES this octopus reach?
All the way to the UN.
With all that debt the Fed Gov owes to China, and with them knowning there is no way that debt can be repaid, as I see it, land is the ONLY collateral Modor on the Potomac can offer in exchange for China to buy our debt. Along with the square miles the deal will include farming, grazing, mineral and water rights
This is not a win for the people. This is merely a lull in what will end up being the federal gestapo running rough shod over the land in Nevada. The armed friends of Cliven will go home, the feds will regroup and it will be all hands on deck at that point. I know how this is going to go.
Themguys:
Your post would be extremely funny if it werent so tragically true…..
Themguys words are poison.
Sovo:
Thenguys words are poison…..to a commies ears.
Another paid israelie talkbacker?
I’ll never understand why, whenever someone supports Israel, he’s accused of being “paid”. I’m not paid by anyone to support the beautiful Jewish nation of Israel. I do it for free.
Granny, since you obviously know it all, why don’t you tell me where I can go to receive payment for my support of Israel? Unless, of course, you’re just full of hot air.
SOVO:
Talkbackers paid by the ministry of Israel. As long as you support and believe the bs coming out of Israelie you might as well get paid.
Check it out for yourself SOVO. Not hot air, just facts….
SOVO: HERE ya go idiot! Maybe you can believe it when its straight FROM a jew IN israels State dept services MOUTH HUH?…ps You sound like another jewdeo christian foolish Pastor john Hagee devote’. Or are a talmudic snake.
THIS is PURE Jewish POISON you Fool! Enjoy!
Question put to a Mr. Shurman from the Israeli Foreign Ministry…
“Will the responders who are hired to POLICE blogs in Israeli interests present themselves as ‘ordinary surfers”?
Shurmans answer…
“Of course, our people WILL NOT say “Hello, I am from the policy explanation department of the Iseaeli Foreign Ministry and I want to tell you the following”, nor will they necessarily identify themselves as Israelis. They will speak as net surfers and citizens and will write responses that will LOOK PERSONAL….BUT WILLL BE BASED ON A PREPARED LIST OF MESSAGES THAT THE ISRAELI FOREIGN MINISTRY DEVELOPED”.
So SHTF community it is the same old story….BY WAY OF DECEPTION…..
Go to the link and read all of it and you will finally understand who is responsible for the attacks on posters such as JQP
The Foreign Ministry presents: paid talkbackers in the service of Israel
www dot kibush dot co dot il/show_ file dot asp?num=34520
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Hot air from Granny and poison from themguys.
“Let them all be confounded and turned back that hate Zion.”
Psalms 129:5
“Enforcai o último rei com as tripas do último padre” (DENIS DIDEROT, filósofo iluminista francês, 1713-1784).
Essa coisa ainda não terminou e, se bobear a CNN dirá que as “Ongs” financiadas por Putin auxiliaram a família Bundy, todos em Bunkerville, Nevada, são terroristas.
hehe.
Welcome back Proftel, even without translation, I figured this one out….
Eppe, then can you explain it to me…I’m too tired to try and puzzle it out.
PKLL
Basically, it’s not over, they can still claim Putin is financially aiding Bundy and all of Bunkerville, who are a terrorists?
Is that even close?
sixpack: not sure if that was supposed to be funny or not…but it is so absurd that it could work on the sheeple…that it made me laugh.
PKLL
I was trying an off-the-cuff translation of Portuguese from Proftel’s post above.
Really hilarious….I’m surprised it’s not on the MSM!
PKLL
Glad you could. My Portuguese sucks
Stay the Course ! We are all Clive Bundy ! There are Millions of us ! And rest assured we are Patriots !
“”They have discovered that the real power is in the internet. Next time they will shut down the internet first. “”
Should the internet go down, it is time to mobilize where ever you may be…
So, every state needs a central station; and every county needs a list of patriots to phone and use a ‘patriot’ tree like school moms have a phone tree.
Lone wolf
X a few million…
What’s Missing?
Obama on T.V. calling the Patriots in Nevada, Terrorists.
It will come, him and his chimp holder will announce some shit, rest assured
…film at 11:00…
if anything happens to Cliven Bundy, Alex Jones, or any of the other now-larger than life patriots involved in this precedent-setting incident; IMHO the rule of 100 heads will immediately go into effect.
Theres lots of these federal bass turds everywhere, not just in Nv
Feds can suffer ‘accidents” like anyone else.
Tyranny Law No. 2: Abuse always expands to fill the limits of resistance to it.
…Oh, that’s a great quote…
PKLL
They are NOT retreating; they are REGROUPING!
MY NAME! IS VICTOR! REZNOV!
As I recall, after that quote came a massive wave of Vietcong and a few tanks. Running our heroes out of that zone on a rail…
(This was a quote from Call of Duty Black Ops).
Guys this isn’t over by a long shot. It was a good slap in the face of the tyrannical government though. There is a temporary flight restriction up over the ranch. The description reads merely flight hazard. All other flight restrictions I’ve read as a pilot have very implicit instructions with them. It’s simple; it’s a smokescreen for the Feds to do what they want. Keeps curious general aviation planes away, as well as news copters. It is valid for 30 days. That’s a long time to do dirty work.
We can probably thank Harry Reid’s connections for that.
I agree, as I lurk and read, trying to figure this all out…the gov lost face in this one….I fear serious repercussions for all involved…maybe not now or next week…but if we read Mr. Bundy suffers an accident, say, falling off his horse…or some other accident typical to ranching…and car wrecks for the patriots there…I would not be surprised. Prayers for all….
SHTF Family! I have just returned from ground zero and have been there off an on for the last few days.There has been a lot of sensationalism,and stories as to what has been going on there,some truths,some lies.But all and all i am proud to see the true Americans that were there, that really know what is going on, and its sure the hell ain’t about the taxes! And yet their is still the 99% like Old guy who thinks it is,and i never seen a one like him down there i left them in their respective states and positions.Their were a lot of people from NV, that realized how corrupt Read the County Sheriff and most of the State Reps really are,and there not for the people or Freedom or Liberty! I just hope that this will wake up more to the Tyranny that is running amok in our country.
Unfortunately i don’t feel this is over by along shot,i wouldn’t trust this government as far as i could throw it!Evil raised its ugly head briefly to see the reaction of the people,and to get a better plan and strategy.they will come at the Bundy’s thru the paid corrupt court systems to achieve there goals, or some other covert way!
We must never give up our guns, the constitution or our God given rights and” We the People” even @ 1% can take America Back!!
Stay Awake & Aware there are more battles on the Horizon.
CATI & NOMI
You hit the nail square on the head when you said ” Paid, corrupt court system.
Never any doubt in my mind. Reid already has the judge paid in full.
Welcome back, Thinker.
Job Well Done.
Thanks Slingshot;Although i am not so sure what we won here other than some awareness,the can just got kicked down the road for another day! My female friend told me when i got back she seen where people on the lsm made it look like it was a bunch of rednecks with guns putting peoples lives in harms way, by closing both sides of the freeway! I told her she ought to know by now that that is there job to further the governments propaganda and that wasn’t what rally happened. She said i wish there was a better way! I wish for a peaceful resolution too but, its too late for that,in all my life i have never seen a change in the direction of our country without bloodshed and it hasn’t escalated as for as it has today, and that is sad! I did what i could do the last few days so that my kids and grandkids can have some freedom and liberty that we had when we was children!
Thanks to everyone that participated with their good heart and soul!!And all you guys that couldn’t from ShTF You were there in spirit. Even the ones that were there to see just what was going on(fire chaser) at least they can got and idea of how low this Tyrannical Government has sank to.
Stay the course my friends its going to get rough before its over.
Nomi & Cati
Welcome back, Thinker, and thank you for that update.
Hurray to the people! Hurray for the Bundys!. Folks, this is not over yet. We must stand strong and united. These AHs and their propagandists will try to twist the story. It is time to stand up to the thugs and those officials who colluded with them by staying silent. Mark the names of the dog handlers and so called “Rangers”, even the officials who told the patriots gathered there that they should have their funeral arrangements prepared. He/they should be made accountabe and be made to eat their words. Publish their names and addresses. Reid and all the traitors should not be forgotten. Wise heads prevailed. We must learn from this experience!
Looks like we need to spread out and make sure the truth is told, even if it is only in the msm comments. People need to SEE that there might be something more than what the talking head spewed at them.
Some won’t care, but so what. I’m a patient person.
God Bless this great victory and continue to walk with the brave that answered the call to duty in defense of another. May this battle be over but the war not. Continue on! 🙂
Welcome back thinker! Glad you got home safely and thanks for the first hand info. Makes me proud of some of my fellow citizens!
We’ve won nothing, as the PTB saw the writing on the wall. Does anyone think that TPTB want a new shot to echo around the world right now? They want to control the time place and event, they want to control the masses and the message so that the end is viewed as controlled and justified.
Our job is to continue to press them within every neighborhood, County, city and State. Retreat is the option of those who have something to gain, we only have the option of waiting to focus our anger.
We must not let them control the battle space, we must within our own AOR’s be ready and willing to push back against tyranny.
Some on this site have belittled those not ready to travel to Bunkerville, yet who can predict the time and place of the next shot? You could be their while the real shot happens at your County seat. Be ready everywhere because we are behind the power curve, these people have been planning and preparing for our downfall for at least a 100 years.
Y99 Out
Follow-up:
The excitement of rushing to war/battle is a trap for the emotionally weak of mind, every man I’ve known at the outset of battle who has let his emotions control him is dead or gravely wounded, I honor them for valor and aggressiveness but a moment of thought at times is and will let you survive and fight the true battle ahead.
…it’s not to die for your country, but to make the other guy die for his…
Off topic, but a great high protein no bake ‘cookie’ made from SHTF staples!
From gimmesomeoven.com
No-Bake Energy Bites
Prep Time: 10 minutes
Total Time: 10 minutes
Yield: About 3 dozen
Ingredients
1 cup (dry) oatmeal (I used old-fashioned oats)
2/3 cup toasted coconut flakes
1/2 cup peanut butter
1/2 cup ground flaxseed or wheat germ
1/2 cup chocolate chips or cacao nibs (optional)
1/3 cup honey or maple syrup
1 Tbsp. chia seeds (optional)
1 tsp. vanilla extract
Method
Stir all ingredients together in a medium bowl until thoroughly mixed. Cover and let chill in the refrigerator for half an hour.
Once chilled, roll into balls of whatever size you would like. (Mine were about 1″ in diameter.) Store in an airtight container and keep refrigerated for up to 1 week.
Makes about 20-25 balls.
Ali’s Tip:
Substitution ideas can abound for just about any of these ingredients! Feel free to substitute in your favorite nut butter (almond butter, sunflower seed butter, etc.) for the peanut butter. And you could also add in some wheat germ in place of some or all of the flaxseed. I would caution, though, against substituting agave nectar for the honey, as the honey’s thickness helps hold things together.
Some other fun substitutions for the chocolate chips (or an addition to them) could include:
chopped dried fruit (apricots, dates, raisins, etc.)
dried berries (cranberries, cherries, etc.)
chopped almonds, pecans, walnuts, or sunflower seeds
other chips (butterscotch, dark chocolate, milk chocolate, white chocolate, M&Ms, etc.)
other grains (different kinds of oatmeal, rice cereal, etc.)
Update: Many of you have asked about substitutions for other ingredients. The joy of these bites being “no bakes” is that this recipe is super flexible. If you end up needing to omit one of the dry ingredients (such as coconut or flax), just add in some extra of whatever other dry ingredient is remaining (for example, the oats). If you feel like your energy bites are too dry, add in extra honey or peanut butter. It’s also not required that you refrigerate these, but I find it helps them stick together much better. And for some reason, I love things like this a little bit chilled. Enjoy!!
Love the recipies. Thank you !
NoPitty:
Can’t wait to make these. How well do these freeze and how long do you think they would last in a food saver bag (storage)?
PKLL
I like them refrigerated. Would probably keep well in the freezer (my rum balls do). There is nothing in the recipe that should get rancid. Maybe next batch ill vac seal some in a jar and see how they keep.
In the jar in the refrigerator…not out on a shelf. Bacteria may be a concern for extended storage unless in the freezer.
Thanks Pity…
On the TV news– CNN– they said the BLM had left because they were afraid someone would get hurt…but they also said that it was NOT OVER…
The sneak Feds aren’t just going to leave.
Don’t you believe that for a moment!
Watch them like a hawk!
The Europeans have been fighting for some years, now, it’s our turn.
My prayers for the Cliven Bundys and all the Militia and Patriots. For all of us.
I look at it this way—Reid and his son have already taken the initial down payment from the Chinese. Since they’ve spent most of that on paying off commissioners, sheriffs, governors, judges and other middle men, they HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO DELIVER AS PROMISED.
The only question that is left is—HOW FAR ARE THEY WILLING TO GO?
OR maybe Reid and his son will be wake with a horse head in their beds?? 🙂
I’d rather take Reid’s head.
The Nevada Enabling Act requires the Feds to sell off all the public land they control in Nevada.
When can we expect the auctions to start?
AC
To Big Oil, Major corporations and the Chinese.
Hahahaha!
You can bet it’s private bid or no-bid.
I bet almost anything, the BLM says they back down, all the supporters go home, and 12 hours later the BLM go back and take the ranch
Or DHS and accuse the Bundy family of terrorism.
No matter what, that fire has been lit, ANYTHING, and i mean ANYTHING happens to any of them or any bullshit legal crap from the DOJ and its game on.
Eyes wide open folks, this was just the bell at round 1
Kula, if I was Bundy, I would have all of my weapons locked and loaded, plus have some of those militia people there at the ranch if possible. I think Round 2 will be a SWAT raid. If so, then the SWAT team needs to be “SWATTED” itself. THAT will definitely send a message and hopefully get some people thinking straight.
…maybe not everybody actually headed “home”…home is where I lay my head. If it was me, I’d dig in in some inconspicuous place and watch those nests tonight. See if any birdies drop in just before daybreak.
Thats where those thermal scopes come in handy, you can be sure the gov people are doing some snooping, so best to return the favor and counter
The Feds are just toying with us. Check out the latest alert on Steve Quayle,s website from Doug Hagman.
This:
http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=877
Well, in that case, maybe sneaking everyone out under cover (if possible from satellite) and letting them Rambo an empty ranch…then close the gate.
My only question is—why wasn’t at least the oathkeepers advised of this intel before this? If I had that kind of intel, I would’ve sent it to Bunkerville by messenger pigeon if I had to, but I would’ve warned them. So what now? We just wait for the hammer to drop? Scatter and hide? Accept our fate? What?
Now that they THINK they know what patriots would do, we need to stop thinking and acting like patriots.
If the white house is truly involved and it is even close to that report in truth, we ARE fighting a losing battle with this.
The only logical alternative would be to pull a Ukraine maneuver…swift. decisive and final.
GLENCORE XTRATA- bunkerville project – beyond the chinese wind farm there’s mica, 2000 per kilogram, olivine, beryllium, patinum palladium. consider also the chinks own smithfeid farms, largest us meat processor
It’s not over by a longshot. I fully expect them to race back in at some point in the near future in the wee hours of the morning with an army of federal agents. Be watchful.
If I were Bundy, I’d set booby traps all over the place….punji pits….dead falls…..trip-wires with flares (or other interesting things)…etc.
way too late for that now, stuff like that needs to be done weeks or months ahead of things like this
if done now, all they will be doing is showing all the usurpers where they are, and what they are..you know they are still watching this ranch, right?
even if there are no boots on the ground ( but im sure there are) but if they dont see any boots on the ground that doesnt mean there arnt eyes in the sky
Waiting for the backlash.
Holder getting his ass ripped by Congress.
Sebeluos Resigns on Obama Care.
Hillary has Incoming Foot Ware. (George Bush is laughing his ass off.)
Now the Bundy, “Let’s Rock”, incident in Nevada.
SLING:
As much as I hate to say this but with what you have blogged I’m glad Obamma is in office so maybe we can have a real good laugh very, very soon.
All the crap that is flying in Obammas face has got to start sticking sooner or later. I pray it is very soon.
You know Damn good and well he is in the middle of all this crap, he gives the orders.
Sling you forgot, the IRS, Bengahsi, Fast and furious, and last but not lest Obamma care.
May the SH$% hit hard an often on this fool.
I’m do miss old Geogie Bush in some respects, he is sitting back saying you can’t blame me now!;-P.
NR. N.S. N.REB
Northern Reb.
With all the stuff that Obama and his gang has done to this country, turn around is fair play. To put it bluntly, some brought it willingly upon themselves on both sides of the aisle.
I am pretty sure we will make the elections. The people behind the scenes are waiting to see how it plays out.
I am working on stealth. Purchased a small compound bow at the flea market. Have to practice now.
SLING:
Practice make perfect.
You and my youngest son should get together.
He just got a crossbow to use on coyoties in Plainfield Illinois Subdivision were he lives.
That will teach you stealth.!;-)
N.R. N.S N.REB
Don’t give the trolls a ’20’…while passing thru, there was recently a DEA force visit in Shorewood…they had a street closed and stuck out like a sore thumb in there regulation federal uniforms….
Molly:
Was that Shorewood Illinois??
My son just moved from there to Plainfield,
the reason for the move was things were getting bad. The sub-division he lived in was getting over ran by zombie-mopes.
N.R. N.S. N.REB
MINIMALLY expect a Tea Party type of response. That is… infiltration of these militia by undercover agents, even provocateurs for that matter. Imagine that. Agent provocateurs committing false flag terrorist acts in the name of these organizations. You can pretty much bank on it. They need to prepare somehow for that.
But… you know… Obama’s backed down twice now. A third time? With his own subjects? Extremely unlikely… that would pretty much end him for the rest of his term. He’s going to do something…
Does *ANYONE* here believe this would have turned out the same if everyone (except the fedcoats) would have been unarmed?
Certainly not me.
All I can say is that picture of Clive being escorted by The Citizen Militia makes me well up with pride.
If there was a way to make a “Badass Ass Meter” and you wave in front of that group, it would have exploded and taken off your arm!
This incident has restored my faith. We may just survive these criminal bastards in DC.
I thought courage in the USA was dead. Clearly, I was wrong. We have a ways to go, people, but we may just be turning.
Salute to Writers Of The Second Amendment, Clive Bundy, The Citizen Militia, The Protestors, The Monetary Supporters and The Moral Supporters. We all made a difference.
Could it be that The Tree Of Liberty can be watered with Tears Of Joy?
The feds would have rounded everyone up and shoved them around like the occupy people,
This sort of protest is the ONLY kind of protest i would ever attend, one where my right to bear is able to be exercised. The thugs dont like it when they dont have the only ability to wage violence on the people.
NetRanger:
Kudo’s to your posts today. They are informative and spot on. One hundred thumbs up…..
Its great news but in the long run I hope this people are willing to show up next month and the month after and the month after.
The feds have all the time in the world onces everyone forgets they will be back.
Cattle grazing on land that no one really uses for much hurts no one. The animals crap and fertilize the land and help it grow new plants. Cows are not sheep or goats. The grass grows back and is healthier because of cattle manure. This is how nature works. Why should Bundy that had claim to this land pay anything?
This is really beside the point. It is all about the way the BLM thinks that they personally own the land. They thinbk of themselves as untouchables. How dare anyone stand up to them. How dare anyone stand up for their rights to any branch of the federal government. This is what the whole issue is about, people are sick and tired of being pushed around by the feds. Just imagine how terrible it will be when something gives them the excuse for martial law. Imagine when the San Andreas, Cascadia, New Madrid breaks and millions are displaced. Tent city like Haiti. The Constitution already is being planned to be trashed during severe SHTF events. This little incidence will at least give some pause to those planning martial law that some patriots will come to the aid of others. That at least people are pissed off enough to not allow people to be slaughtered without the civilian militia not having a say so in it. Just like the 2nd Amendment intended. It may be a small victory today, but it is a victory.
FORREST GUMP GOES TO HEAVEN
The day finally arrived. Forrest Gump dies and goes to Heaven.
He is at the Pearly Gates , met by St. Peter himself. However, the gates are closed,
and Forrest approaches the gatekeeper.
St. Peter said, ‘Well, Forrest,
it is certainly good to see you. We have heard a lot about you. I must
tell you, though, that the place is filling up fast, and we have been administering
an entrance examination for everyone. The test is short, but you have to
pass it before you can get into Heaven.’
Forrest responds, ‘It sure is
good to be here, St. Peter, sir. But nobody ever told me about any entrance
exam. I sure hope that the test ain’t too hard.
Life was a big enough test
as it was.’
St. Peter continued, ‘Yes, I
know, Forrest, but the test is only three questions.
First:
What two days of the week
begin with the letter T?
Second:
How many seconds are there in a year?
Third:
What is God’s first name?’
Forrest leaves to think the questions
over. He returns the next day and sees St. Peter, who waves him up, and
says, ‘Now that you have had a chance to think the questions over,
tell me your answers.’
Forrest replied, ‘Well, the
first one — which two days in the week begins with the letter ‘T’?
Shucks, that one is easy. That would be Today and Tomorrow.’
The Saint’s eyes opened wide and
he exclaimed, ‘Forrest, that is not what I was thinking, but you do
have a point, and I guess I did not specify, so I will give you credit
for that answer. How about the next one?’ asked St. Peter.
‘How many seconds in a year ?
Now that one is harder,’ replied Forrest, ‘but I thunk and thunk about
that, and I guess the only answer can be twelve.’
Astounded, St. Peter said, ‘Twelve?
Twelve? Forrest, how in Heaven’s name could you come up with twelve seconds
in a year?’
Forrest replied, ‘Shucks, there’s
got to be twelve: January 2nd, February 2nd, March 2nd…. ‘
‘Hold it,’ interrupts St. Peter.
‘I see where you are going with this, and I see your point,
though that was not quite what I had in mind….but I will have to give
you credit for that one, too. Let us go on with the third and final question.
Can you tell me God’s first name’?
‘Sure,’ Forrest replied,
‘it’s Andy.’
‘Andy?’ exclaimed an exasperated
and frustrated St Peter.
‘Ok, I can understand how you
came up with your answers to my first two questions, but just how in the
world did you come up with the name Andy as the first name of God?’
‘Shucks, that was the easiest
one of all,’ Forrest replied. ‘I learnt it from the song,
ANDY WALKS WITH ME,
ANDY TALKS WITH ME,
ANDY TELLS ME I AM HIS OWN.’
St. Peter opened the Pearly Gates,
and said: ‘Run, Forrest, run!
EPPE
AMEN!
Sgt.
I going to throw something out there, suppose just suppose that the rank and file of BLM on site said F this these guys aren’t play the game I’m going home.
BI, find below the reason Bundy’s range fees are optional for grazing. An irritated me posted this on a popular forum where people were trashing Bundy for just being greedy and not wanting to pay his taxes for using the land. Ignorance is the enemy of liberty in many cases and the people that were trashing Bundy just kept it up. It pissed me off so, I wrote this:
You people need to do a little studying. I know most of you live in apartments and don’t understand land rights or use, but still, some of you sound pathetically ignorant. Please, read this below before you post ANYTHING else.
I keep hearing “Bundy just doesn’t want to pay his range fees!”
You guys don’t even know what a “range fee” is. So STFU and read.
First off, realize this: land has different types of value. There are “surface rights”, “mineral rights”, “egress rights”, “water rights”, and there are “GRAZING RIGHTS”.
No, Bundy does not own the land. He *OWNS* the grazing rights. He purchased it from his father who purchased it from his father who purchased it from either the Fed. Gov. or Nevada.
Range fees are not fees that you have to pay to allow your cattle to wander around and eat. They are fees you pay so that the BLM will help you improve the area with roads, water resources, etc. Also, if you don’t *OWN* any grazing or water rights, the BLM will, at their pleasure, lease those rights to you via your “range fees”.
In the last 20 years the BLM has attempted to make the range fees mandatory for Mr. Bundy. If they are allowed to do this, then the grazing rights that Bundy lawfully owns will mean nothing. They will have been effectively stolen from him.
The BLM is attempting to stop cattle ranchers because sniveling greedy twits would rather get massive kickbacks from Chinese energy companies to put solar cells out there. Cows and solar cells don’t mix. But, that is opinion, not fact.
Back to the facts.
The BLM have not used the range fees to help the ranchers improve the land (as is in the contract). Instead, they used the fees to close the public lands, buy out their grazing rights (if that had any) (for pennies on the dollar since they closed the lands and the rights were then worthless) and kept them out of public lands.
Its all a longer term plan to keep the ranchers off the public lands. The turtle bullshit is a guise to attempt to more “officially” close the lands because they want them for purposes that will actually be much more environmentally dangerous.
So, they’ve run out all the other ranchers just by just saying: “We’re closing the lands. Your grazing rights mean nothing.” They hand little resistance. Until, Clive Bundy. Clive thinks that, since he has grazing rights, he should be able to graze.
Back to the range fees: The range fees basically were a contract between the rancher and the BLM. In Bundy’s case, the BLM simply used the range fees to fund lawers to attemp to unlawfully revoke his grazing rights. He basically said, “You’re Fired! I don’t need you and you’re working against me.” …and financed the improvements himself. (Improvements, that, BTW, the crooked Bastard Land Mismanagers are vandalizing.)
Now, all you shills that have been pushing this bullshit about “He doesn’t own the land…” The fact is, he does and he doesn’t. Since his grazing rights pre-empt the BLM’s illegitimate claim that he must pay to graze, they trump it. They are simply out of gas, legally.
So, you shills can go on and on, but, you look embarrassingly stupid in the face of the real facts.
Get a clue before you post. He owns the grazing rights. The BLM is blocking those grazing rights. They are stealing his property that he paid for, and is lawfully documented. Stop showing your ignorance! The fact is, he *NEVER* had to pay the range fees since he had grazing rights. The other ranchers may have had to pay the range fees because they didn’t *OWN* their grazing rights and, effectively, leased the grazing rights from the BLM.
Great point. I agree 100%
@ NetRanger. Like SterlingSilver says, 100% agree.
This is a pipe dream, but wouldn’t it be nice if the government actually respected people and saw that the people are the strength of any country? Any strong country.
Netranger,
If I’m not mistaken I think he also owns the water and mineral rights to that land.
RW, I later found he owned the water rights. Mineral rights? You’re the first to say it. Don’t know. I do know that water rights could be split into “Surface Water Rights” and “Subterranian Water Rights”. Usually the subterranian water rights are included with the mineral rights as, like, when they drill for oil what they get is mostly salt water and they have to separate the oil from the water.
Regardless, if he owns the mineral rights too, well, crap! No wonder they want him out.
The fact is The “B” in “BLM” stands more for either “Bullies” or “Bastards” that it does anything else. Everyone that has ever dealt with them knows. Although I was never a rancher in that area, I was a rancher’s son here in the midwest. The herd was mostly my responsibility. Never had any issues and never used any public land but since I was a young pup I have read about that stuff and studied it intensely. I understand the issues.
One thing you must understand too is that not every rancher is innocent. Some of them set out to abuse the land, or you could say, some “have” abused the land. But, its a micro-minority. Ranchers love the land and they take care of the land.
Early on, there were a few articles that attempted to smear Bundy as an abuser of the land. I think it was the first rumble of this storm. People don’t usually beat or torture things that they love unless they, themselves, are defective. Guys that have that big of a place didn’t get that way by being defective. I smelled a rat and went after it and found it! I found a new way to spell “rat”, B L M. The modern day BLM is not the Bureau of Land Management. Appearantly about 20 years ago they became the Bastards of Land Mismanagement. They did this by not giving a shit about the land and allowing themselves to be used as a political tool. I knew this long before Bundy ever took a stand.
The fact is, the US Government has become the Enemy of We, The People. I’m not declaring this. Just stating a fact. Government exists for one reason and *ONE* *REASON* *ONLY* – To secure your rights in equality with the rights of others.
When was the last time our government (be it fed, state or local) did anything of the sort like protecting your rights? Since it doesn’t do this, anymore, there must be a reason for that. What is the reason? Well, let me explain:
Just like the alphabet agencies filled with assholes that don’t give a flying, well, you know, about your rights, the federal government was turned in 1871 by the Columbia Act of 1871. It started small, just an incorporation of the 10 square miles that is Washington DC (now known as The District Of Criminals). But, this evil infection spread. It spread into the state governments. It spread into the local governments. As the corporate infection spread, it created FBIs and BLMs and CIAs and NSAs and BATFs and all the other wonderful agencies as subcorporations of the original USA, Inc. They say to you, essentially, (and bluntly): “Screw you and your Constitutional Rights! We’re a coporation and you can’t touch us.”
…and they are correct. But, they do respond to getting “Bundy’d”.
And, from now on, this will be the norm. Until they shut down the internet everytime something like this happens. That will inflame the people even more.
Corporations respond to only one thing: loss. They try to avoid it. Expansion is their goal. To expand, liberty must contract. They are wholly anti-liberty. They are anti-anything that holds them back. What we did when we Bundy’d them, we showed them that if they continue, the price is loss. I think the first big target was that Harry Reid started getting heat from the press about a deal in the area of politics and payoffs. My guess is that Harry made a call to the BLM chief (who, apparently, used to be one of his advisors?) and said, “Dude! Make this go away fast.”
Essentially when you have armed citizens running around the sheoplestream news can’t resist covering it. And even though the SheopleStreamMedia did their best to not cover it, they just could not resist covering it a little. Then, when Breitbart broke the Reid/China/Reid’s Son story, BOOM! It had to go away.
Did the protesters matter? Yes. They garnered a bit of attention.
Did the armed citizens matter? Oh, yeah! News couldn’t leave that alone. This was a situation where an agent provacteur would have been suicide for the establishment. One shot by a nervous enemy of the people or defender of the people and this story would have been EVERYWHERE on SheopleStreamTV! BAM! Political suicide.
No, they’re backing off now. They’ll wait until it dies down. Expect Bundy to die of some strange malady while is family becomes imprisoned for false charges. With nobody to run the ranch, they’ll just rewrite the “God Damned Pieces Of Paper” (kind of like FedCo has done the USCON with its “artful reconstructions”) and they’ll do their deal. Its tragic, but, they have evil and anarchy on their side. Everyone working for the BLM should be arrested for treason and hung. It is just another evil subcorp. One thing (probably the only thing) I agree with muslims on is that when they refer to the USA as the “Great Satan”, I assume they mean FedCo. On that point, we do agree completely.
The beast is at the door. I say we do the Biden Maneuver, what say you?
I could go on and on, but I won’t. Thanks to all who keep this platform alive, especially Mac.
If Bundy owns the mineral rights to that land. Then removing the cattle would have no effect on the mineral right ownership. Removing the cattle would not negate the mineral rights. Ok all that is necessary to verify who owns the mineral rights is a trip to the courthouse. All land deeds and tax documents are public record. Ask the clerk for Bundys info. Under the freedom of information act that must let you see them. If & when someone even if it was Harry Reid or the Chinese who extracted the minerals . They would have to purchase the right to do so from Bundy. Bundy would get royalties and maby become super rich. I own the mineral rights to my land here in Arkansas. Today most of them are not worth hardly anything. However we have a interest in property in Faulkner County. There is natural gas in that region. We have been contacted by Lawers who represent some unknown to us party. They offered $500 per acre plus a 5% royalty for the mineral rights. We didn’t sell them.
I’m pretty sure about the forage and water rights. Rancher’s Wife is the first one I’ve heard say anything about mineral rights. Having those rights (forage, water and mineral) would be almost like owning the land. The only thing you couldn’t do is build houses or racetracks on it.
But, just not sure about the mineral rights. By now, if he didn’t own the water or forage rights, someone would have said so. I hear lots of people ignoring the assumed fact of forage and water rights but I have never seen anyone state something like, “Bundy does not own the water and forage rights to this land!”
Seems pretty simple for the BLM head to come on lamestream (or even visit the site and give a press conference). Its the kind fo things they do. But, if he *DOES* own those rights and you say he doesn’t, they will crucify you. Also, if Bundy claimed to own the rights and he doesn’t, the BLM would have blitzkreiged his ass and nobody would have had a chance to head out there.
When government is right and they know they are, they waste zero (0) time in doing what they want. No, they *KNOW* they’re not in the right and they were dead set on doing what they wanted, regardless of The Law or Bundy’s Rights.
Besides, I can’t imagine my fellow militia men backing something that wasn’t real. Were I to have gone, the first thing I would have wanted to hear from Clive is why he had the right to hold out on these guys. I really hate the heavy handed feds but you can’t fight them if they are right, its just not moral. Those guys escorting Clive in the pic above look to me like men of good character that would not take any shit because they knew Clive had the moral and lawful high ground. …not just because he didn’t want to pay his “taxes”.
BLM
Butthead
Lameass
Motherfuckers
I’ve been calling them The Bastards of Land Mismanagement.
Yours is probably more accurate, though.
🙂
NetRanger:
Great post……
thanks for the information. Unfortunately, it is just easier for most people to post half-assed comments. I doubt most posters on here have the attention span to read your entire message.
NetRanger, AMEN and I agree totally. I support the Bundy cause without question and without reservation. Everyone attacking Bundy sounds like either a libturd or a neocon to me.
RB, funny you should use the epithet “libturd” in your name-calling. Liberals try to stifle alternate opinions – just like you.
Libturd.
Great post NetRanger….but it will be totally lost on Durango Kid and others like him.
He thinks it’s perfectly ok for the government to change the rules in the middle of the game.
The rest of us however, must obey the “rules”.
That’s why guys like him are just government hacks and toadies.
NR: You seem to have a copy of the deed that transfers OWNERSHIP to Bundy? A copy of the lease? A copy of any transcripts to support your analysis?
Please post the links. Thank you. 🙂
Wow, The “Krugman” Kidd is down here at the bottom of the comments with us common folk. That’s unusual.
It sickens me how he’s always defending the actions of the empire. Things must be getting desperate for him to be this far down in the comments list?
Perhaps someday he will – truly – stop defending the empire?
….One can only hope.
However; I imagine that will only happen when the tide has turned.
Guys like him only twist in the wind.
Clark: Walt asked me to read NR post I did. That is my response. Show me the evidence! 🙂
NR: You seem to have a copy of the deed that transfers OWNERSHIP to Bundy? A copy of the lease? A copy of any transcripts to support your analysis?
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Yep–just as you have the papers that give BLM legal authority to do what they are doing.,.,you do have that documentation, don’t you??
Please post the links. Thank you. 🙂
JayJay: I accept the TWO judgments rendered by the Nevada Court. Given the financial amount involved, I would expect a jury deliberated on these cases.
If not, Bundy should request a jury trial. If a jury has deliberated on these issues then Bundy needs to appeal to a higher Court or pay up.
As a matter of fact, I DO have the documents from BLM that allow BLM to do what they are doing. They do it to me too, but the difference between me and Rancher Bundy, is that I pay the fees.
If you want to educate yourself about the BLM I suggest you go to their website. Then rush out and buy a really good metal detector. It worked for me.
Just saying! 🙂
Nope.
Just have a lot of narratives of people that have skin in the game and that if they lied about it, it would be refuted.
No refutations from any reliable sources.
Bundy doesn’t own the surface rights, just forage and water rights. (maybe mineral, but I can’t substantiate that).
Old Guy says we can substantiate it by checking with the court house, but, what if those rights to the land are on sheepskin, signed by a dead president and it was never recorded? No law says you have to record land transactions. You only record land transactions if you want them to tax you. Usually its for titling purchases and not allodial title or actual “owning” of the land.
There are ways to own land without a dead or county recorders pen being near it. Trust me on this point.
That was to DK, NR…not you–we are on the same page.
A wise man records his deeds & documents. and keeps the original documents with all the proper stamps seals and notarized affidavids in a safe place. The five civilized tribes and other native americans thought they owned land without having deeds or the county recorders pen. they found out differently.Try and sell a vehicle without a title or a parcel of land without a recorded deed. you might find a buyer but the sales price will be greatly discounted. If it was never recorded there is no legal proof so its a claim with no merit and any court would declare the claim invalid.
DK,, at some point normal conversation must seize…Deed is not needed for public land. If you or BLM wants it come and take it.
I know what a grazing fee is. And its based on head of cattle grazed. I believe Bundy was supposed to pay $1.35 per head per month. I have relatives who graze the public land. They graze the Mississippi River Levee in the Boot heel area. And they must adhere to a strict set of rules to prevent overgrazing & erosion. And the levee in most places is closed to the general public. If Bundy *NEVER* had to pay grazing fees because he had grazing rights? Why did he previously pay them for a time and then suddenly stop paying? Publish a link to the Lawfully Documented Grazing rights and show when,where and how they where purchased. Do that and I will eat crow and acknowledge that I was wrong in my assessment. Get the documents and scan them and post them here.
Give it up dude, your government is in the wrong and the true American people will prevail, were sick of listening to your troll like discourse, the truth and facts are out all over the place,
Corruption and government over reach are the only news here.
Old Guy, they’re leasing the forage rights with their grazing fees. Bundy claims (and his claim has not been refuted) to own the grazing rights and water rights. Why would he have to pay grazing fees for a right he has already purchased? Thats like purchasing fishing rights and then the guy that owns the lake charges you a per fish caught fee. Nope. Doesn’t add up.
I believe the two court orders are proof that Bundys claim has indeed been refuted.
Awesome, another freeloading welfare rancher. Above the law, don’t wanna pay his bills, entitled to screw the rest of us while trashing public property, call in the goon squads of malcontents, fight and threaten law enforcement officers just doing their jobs. Jeeze, I thought these were the takers you dimwits are so ticked off about.
Too bad the big mean black man in the big white house is not afraid of you cowards.
Put down your erectial replacements, I mean, guns, ditch your gang of thugs and come fight like a real man, Mano y Mano.
You won nothing except the laughter of folks with brains.
And too stupid to know it. Too retarded to care.
Gimmie, gimmie, gimmie is all I hear outta y’all.
Welcome to Nevada!
Now go home and crawl back under your rock.
And it worked! Good for Bundy. You’re just pissed off cause it ain’t your free loading ass.
Sterling Silver,
Ta Daaaaaa!
Hahahahahaha!
Go up three quotes to NetRanger’s explanation of why you’re completely wrong.
It honors me to be refered to. Thank you.
No matter who you believe ,fuck the blm or any govt.entity telling folks where 1st. speech rights are or not,,just fuck them and any supporters of such nonsense,that right there was the battle!You want to fight it,as some fat fuck for the country said,be ready to make funeral plans,because you will soon die.Personally,I have no problem long pigging and eating you fat fucks,just a personbal thing,welcome to the brave new world!
TNDBag….LOL…nice try. Your name says it all…
PKLL
TrueNevadaDirtBag, go fuck off and die!
I hope all here know what a dirt bag is in Kentucky and Tennessee; and it has nothing to do with a vacuum!!! 🙂
🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
Awesome, another jerk that doesn’t know the facts. Wow, that freeloading rancher puts food on your table using land rights his family purchased before you, your father or your grandfather were probably born.
…and if they put down their “erectile replacements” (you must be a woman with penis fixation) do you think the fedcoats will put theirs down? Uh, no. Giving a government a monopoly of violence always means the demise of the populous. Doubt me? Look it up. Over 100 million in the 20th century, alone.
Do your homework before spouting off uninformed opinions about things you know nothing about.
EPPE GUMP:
ANDY HE WALKS WITH ME….
Got me laughing again thanks.
I wish I would of have this one earlier today I could have used it at my cousins funneral.
If would have know her she would be laughing while looking down from heaven at this joke she was one of a kind.
Thanks again.
N.REB
NR
I just lost one of my cousins the other day also. Funeral was today. I wanted to go but I couldn’t get anyone to cover my shift at the P.D.
Sorry for your loss. The funeral was in Streator, If Carman was her name we need to get together.
Wouldn’t it be ironic if we were related.
Sgt.
Sgt.
I don’t know if I could handle any more leos in the family. Ha, Ha, Ha,!;-)
N.R. N.S. N.REB
I hope she was one who enjoyed GOOD humor, but I am sure she did… With all the people I have lost in the last few years, I really hold tight to those who are close to me now… We really need to live for the day, since we never know when our time is up, I know I have eluded death a few times, makes one wonder why I am still here… Maybe GOD has a reason for me that I have not found yet, but I keep searching, as all of us should…
Eppe:
I hear you loud and clear I have lost four friends of the family so far this year and my cousin all in 4 months time.
Hang on tight to those you care for and the family that you love You never know when the Good Lord want you to come home.
I know one reason the Good Lord keeps you here, You are here to help get through those rough times by making us laugh.
We are blessed by having you on this site.
God bless you and yours.
N.REB
To everybody who was wanting photos and a list of the NWO terrorists who are destroying our country, somebody went and got half of them together for a family shot!!
http://www.infowars.com/g20-gives-u-s-year-end-deadline-for-imf-reforms/
My question is….why doesn’t Al Qaeda ever target these people?
I think that’s a good question….don’t you?
Walt, you already know the answer. Al Qaeda is THEIR boogie man army. Used by them to deceive the world until their NWO is achieved…..
yep, but we already know the answer, and it has to do with the hand that feeds ya.
Because; there would be a gun behind every blade of grass.
You know, it just hit me the other day.
Did Al Qaeda’s father name him Al after Al Gore?
…OK. It wasn’t a very hard hit.
Two Scenarios Walt: They are Al Qaeda and they see us as Syrians. Or They are Israelis and they see us as Palestinians. Either way they like to kill innocent.
You know Mac has been hitting the sauce again when he profanely says; “previous peaceful assemblies like Occupy Wall Street”.
Alex Jones must not have showed footage of violent riots in parks, breaking windows of shops, rampant sexual assaults, dope binging, etc.
Liberty won this round, but I still wonder if those desert tortoises were really Mossad agents in disguise…
Not a Liberaltarian, Mac Slavo is NOT a drunk or a drug addict. You sound like another troll, so go fuck off and die.
Wow, a warmongering necon feels threatened enough by the reason coming from the Libertarian crowd as to pose a nic, ‘NotALiberaltarian’.
I think they are feeling some pain.
I think their members are acting up and asking the wrong questions.
Cool.
No the tortoises were not Mossad agents but the people who were speaking in a foreign language sure as hell could have been.
They have been used in many places before; you have heard their motto before “By way of deception”…..
..and I’ll bet they sound pretty “Russian” too. They might even speak it. Perfect.
PO’D GRANNY: Their Other famous Motto is “Kill even the best of the gentile Goyims”
Definition of word “Goyim” is…Herd Animals such as Cattle are. REASON they call Us gentiles a Goyim…Is due to their talmudic judaisim Religious beliefs teach that ONLY jews have a Real Soul from God, that makes a jew equal to god. While ALL Non jewish goyim gentiles has NO soul at all same as ALL other animals.
When a jew Kills a goyim gentile non jew its no worse or different than if someone drives over a squirel on the road and kills it…Big deal as its just an animal not a “Real Human with a real soul”.
Then they constantly call us whitey folks racists, seperatists, haters, evil nazis, kkk haters etc…
Talk about Projection of Their Own actual Guilt at other folks(whites) eh!…All done to Hide the Facts that its been jews all along who are guilty of master race ideals, and a jewish seperatist attitude. IE: SEE Rabid stolen State of Aparthide Israel, and their constant Demands to be called the “jewish State of israel” only, by entire worlds peoples and nations.
SEE Vidoes how Israeli IDF soldiers use Tanks, Bull Dozers, M-16’s etc to round up Black african ethiopian JEWS and contain said Black Jews in Holding Prisons built specifically for that reason untill said Black jews can be DEPORTED away from jew only israel.
What these snake devils and sons and daughters of Satan Really are is fraid jews aka Khazars of eastern european decent, orig from Esua edomitish Turkish ancestors that only became a “jew” when they Religiously Converted to Pharisitical Talmudic Judaism in aprox 740-750 A.D.Era.
These Khazar Fraud jews have ZERO Isreal 12 tribes, ZERO orig biblical hebriac or hebrew ancestory Period.!
Check Past SHTF articles for my prior post replies in which I posted full Recent, december, 2012 DNA Proof results that 100% prove that Indeed at LEAST 98% of those who today call themselves jews are really Khazars aka Fake tribal israelites.
ALSO There Own jewish Almanacs, several Past and Present editions conatins jewish written proof that one shoud not consider Modern day, jews as true israelites or that they in ANY way resemble actual ancient 12 tribed israelites NOR are they decendants of them at all. I Posted That quoted almanac statement also…And I will post it again if we still have naysayers or denailists here still.
I do wonder how many times one must post such proof before it finally Sinks into foolish thick skulls eh?
More filth from the filthy mind of themguys.
I knew I should have taken a left turn at Alberquerque….
the photo shows one guy with a sidearm. if this is what they consider heavily armed. wait till the gen.militia shows up.
WWOFFD?
What Would Our Founding Father’s Do?
At the moment,
Im sure rolling over in their graves.
I pondered the same thing Ugly. I figure the unbridled LUST of Reid empowered by engineered GLUTTONY created the SLOTH that allowed the powers to direct their WRATH upon the people of Bunkerville. ENVY and PRIDE has been sown by the resistance but all is caused by the insidious permanent nature of the worst sin of all, GREED. How we control that one is beyond me, but these sins are called deadly for good reason. Our rights are inherent only with control of these qualities constantly demonstrated by man. Such control was inclusive in our founding documents. There be the tools we need to sharpen for if they were written today it would be called a terrorist manifesto, which is one reason I fear a Constitutional convention. We need a national constitutional reaffirmation. Yes those constraints contained within are tough, because they have to be. “A Republic, ma’am. if you can keep it”. Can we? Is it possible to turn sloth into patriotism? Or does patriotism only come naturally. That one too will be answered shortly. Our founders would require adherence at this point, after such reaffirmation. May you fare well through this storm.
Last one for the night….
WHAT CAUSES ARTHRITIS?
A drunk man who smelled like beer sat down on a subway next to the priest. The man’s tie was stained, his face was plastered with red lipstick, and a half-empty bottle of gin was sticking out of his torn coat pocket. He opened his newspaper and began reading.
After a few minutes the man turned to the priest and asked,
‘Say Father, do you know what causes arthritis?’
The priest, trying to make a point to the obvious, replies, ”My Son, it’s caused by loose living, being with cheap, wicked women, too much alcohol, contempt for your fellow man, sleeping around with prostitutes and lack of a bath.”
The drunk muttered in response, ‘Well, I’ll be damned, ‘
Then returned to his paper.
The priest, thinking about what he had said, nudged the man and apologized. ”I’m very sorry. I didn’t mean to come on so strong. How long have you had arthritis?”
The drunk answered, ”I don’t have it, Father. I was just reading here
that the Pope does.”
EPPE:
Thanks, I don’t think Coke A Cola was made to come out you nose when you drink it. Da$% it burns. I can say one thing though it does clean out your sinuses.
Thanks again.
N.R. N.S. N. REB
Coke will also eat the finish off your furniture too. It stops fan belts from squeaking for a while too.
Eppe is talented at that!
The next time in Vegas and at horse races, please never bet on a horse named ‘Tripod’….
…unless it’s in a tri-fecta…Ta-Da!
I trust nobody. Not even me….
Just received an e-mail from my son.Stating “Breaking News” that is from a Bundy Support group ;Stating that the feds are in Mesquite, NV.Regrouping for another Assault possibly? Many Many Many Federal Agents and National Guard trying to get Rooms @ Best Western which is full and now @ the Holiday Inn asking for rooms for the next few days. This is 5 miles N of protesters.
Use your own judgment as i am not their and neither is my son,but i am sure if its true we will be finding out shortly!!
If I had long distance, I’d call and see if I could book a room for tonite or tomorrow, just to see.
I would say if true and there is a Waco style massacre those hotels will be sorry they rented rooms to the feds.
BI;Another Eq in western Idaho 4.9 and a 4.6 way up iNorth of Franz Josef Land whats up??
@ Thinker. This is coming from the plates interacting and this is being shown with the activity down in the Scotia plate east of Argentina like back in 1983 when Idaho had a 7.0. This shows that Japan and China this time are under the gun much more so than any danger to Idaho from a large quake. Certain points on the boundaries of plates affect areas that you don’t see earthquakes too often. I would again be much more worried about Alaska and the west coast because after the Australian plate, the most targeted area is the northeastern Pacific plate region.
Maybe we’ll get lucky and mother nature will take half of china out for us…
Thanks Be I;I see this morning a new one on the Central Mid Atlantic Ridge,my first thought was the precursor for the New Madrid but to far south@ 7degrees? Close though!
@ Thinker. Too far south. 14 to 20 degrees from the New Madrid. This one on the Mid Atlantic Ridge shows Alaska again, China, Japan, the Australian plate again, especially North Island New Zealand, Fiji, Tonga and Samoa, the Philippines. This area has a tendency to occur before large swarming earthquakes in the Kuril Islands and eastern Russia. More precursor earthquakes should tell and narrow this down a bit.
Protect the 2nd for without it we have no rights. Burn this into the minds of everyone you know. This was a win, but it is far from over.
Another Report from Larry Hagmann stating from his DHS informant that the plan to withdraw the feds from the Bundy Ranch was hatched yesterday and the people are being duped into believing its being resolved,its a strategic deescalation.
! A military assessment of Satellite and Drone surveillance imagery of the Patriot Resistance.Drones of the Us military was in use,taking real time photographic images of not just the activity of the Ranch but Identifying the protesters,and any supplies they may have been carrying “Mission Accomplished”
2 Real time communication intercepts between patriots on-site and off-site locations.
3 Active monitoring of internet traffic regarding on-site and off-site support.
4 Active monitoring of internet traffic regarding coverage of events at the Ranch.
5 The monitoring of Real-time video at the seen.
This goes on i can’t seem to get the link for everyone to read so use you own judgement as to the authenticity.
But as i said earlier something smells fishy about this Fed withdrawal! We Shall See!!
.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=877
just add www
@ sixpack via Hagman info: Yeah, the “FEDS” were just “poking the tiger” with a stick to assess the plans for round two!
Sixpack;Thanks for finding that link,i had to get some ZZZZ’S. Anyway I’am going to go back down today and check it out for myself and i will let you all know. I thought we would have known something by morning here but nothing as of yet!!!
I’m gonna go trolling at the MSM.
“something smells fishy about this Fed withdrawal! We Shall See!!”
Yup.
The sneaky slimy bastards are still out there doing their thing. Just like you said.
They like it like that.
And, that’s what’s wrong with them.
HERE’S A POST I JUST FOUND ON NATURAL NEWS— I’ll warn you, she’s long-winded and obviously stays glued to faux news, but this is a prime example of what the sheeple think…study it well :
Lynnette • 31 minutes ago
I looked at this situation very carefully. I went to BLM Nevada’s website and read their side. They had an injunction to close the lands for two days with the intent to round up the cattle and return them to the rancher. The land the cattle had waundered onto is NPS land and is closed to range cattle for obvious reasons. It is recreational area. Camp ground areas and hiking trails for the general public to enjoy… cattle free. The cattle have done damage to several land owners property and a Bundy bull attacked a BLM worker. Other concerns were ferral cattle which pose a threat to the Bundy cattle and property owners. There is a plan to build a wind farm around lake Mead and Gold Butte streching across the Colorado River into Utah and Arizona. It would be difficult for the workers to have to tend to the cattle that are not allowed to graze there since 2012. BLM has exercised great restraint and taken 2 years to take any action against Bundy.
Personally, I feel Bundy is in the wrong. Had he read the injunction against him to his adoring crowd and explained he was being stuborn about the changing land use… I don’t think he would have got so much attention as a victim. I can understand BLM ramping up their security for the two day cattle round up for Bundy’s cattle. I do not agree with their show of force. Hired private security has been known to be a loose cannon. All states are initiating water shed programs and green way projects. Lake Mead is one of the nastiest reservoirs I have ever seen. Frankly, I don’t know how fish can live in that water. It is about 85 degrees in the summer and a coat of oil floats on top from all the boats, etc. If BLM and the land use programs don’t step in and try to restore our resources we would be on the path to self detruction for the whole area.
But Bundy can’t speak of these things. He thinks he shouldn’t have to change anything of using lands he doesn’t own to begin with. Never has. If the public can’t grow up and change the way of thinking and change the way they are conducting business on public land they have no ground to become a victim. Especially when they are contributing to the down fall of the land and not paying grazing fees so to profit of public land. Public welfare for the wealth victimized, out dated rancher who can’t see the benifit for himself past his waunder off cattle. No wounder it is getting no media attention.
It is an embarrassment to the other ranchers and public who pay their grazing fees and recreational use fees keep up with the times and their cattle.
the link
http://www.naturalnews.com/044695_BLM_surrender_cattle_released_government_tyranny.html
Six: I hope you responded to her and called her an idjit. I am losing my patience with stooopid. It’s like a disease….spreading everywhere.
PKLL
I think I may have offended her obamanite sensibilities, yes, I’m quite sure I did.
🙂
sixpack
In short..comply for the collective..that’s the read I get from this…
Bundy ,as well as others on both sides of this issue, have engaged attorneys who obviously read all the fine lines and have come to the conclusion of withdrawal and return of his cattle…
Had Bundy not a legal leg to stand on, this wouldn’t have occurred and the feds would’ve continued their enforcement.
My questions are this..
will he still be allowed to graze on these disputed lands in question?..
or will he be forced to comply with prior grazing fees, or pay his supposed back fees?
and what about all the other ranchers who have “complied” with the grazing fees?..has anyone interviewed them?
There are way too many unanswered questions at this point.
Then there’s a few sticking points still at large regarding the purported Chinese/Reid connection and also the purported fracking rights secured on these lands in question.
Perhaps more ardent investigative reporters would delve a bit deeper into this quagmire..
Meanwhile. …I personally don’t see the BLM and feds backing down for long..if I were Bundy..I’d have all my bases covered and then some..
Surely all the family,supporters/militia,et al are now targeted,databased for future encroachments..
There’s much more to this than the obvious..
possee
Yes, and “Lynnette’s” post only underscore the blind ignorance of the sheeple.
Lynnette actually thought she was getting at the truth by going to the BLM web site to see what they said about it. Never once did she question their authority or narrative. She truly thinks the BLM explanation IS THE OTHER SIDE”.
Yes, “compliance for the collective” is the overall take I got from her post. This post was a perfect example of the skewed thinking of sheeple. It should be presented as a modern example of Pavlovian behavior modification.
Didn’t Pavlov experiment with sheep too?
Posseecom
You are wrong. They didn’t each have attorneys. Bundy was pro se, and the judge was a friend of Harry Reid.
http://dockets.justia.com/docket/circuit-courts/ca9/13-16623/
GAWD! I thought at any time she was going to say something like “We need to get rid of our outdated Constitution…”
Well, obviously, never read any of my posts either!
What a brainwashed doofus. Of course, drinking at the SheopleStreamMedia trough…
NetRanger, just wanted you to know I agree with everything you posted on this issue. I hate to have any differences with DK, but he is totally wrong on this issue.
Sixpack, whoever red-thumbed you are retarded AND trolls.
You’d better kowtow to RB’s viewpoint or you’re a “troll”.
Apparently he’s so unsure of his opinions that he has to resort to name-calling if you disagree with him.
Call me anything but a politician…I draw the line on hateful at that point.
Out of Honor to those who have served and taken THE OATH,
I declined to comment and steer the comment on this Historical day, this is my comment…
OUR LIBERTIES WE PRIZE AND OUR RIGHTS WE WILL MAINTAIN – Iowa Motto
How ironic:
Nevada motto…..All for our country
For such events I love you crazy Amis.
Adi from gungrabbed and treehugging Germany
Everybody:
Hi Adi: (if you’re real) thanks for the idea.
Guys, do you realize that the whole world is probably watching this? Bobo the monkey is trying to show the world how weak and unresolved America is.
I think we just showed the world that the American people are crazy brave and the “American” spirit of freedom is still very alive and well….NO matter what our weak, evil, incompetent, pussified, lying, back stabbing govt leaders show the world.
Think big picture, like if you were across the world and saw this…what would you think?
So, maybe the world will think a moment before attacking….or our govt will attack us quicker because we are not as asleep as they thought?
PKLL
PKLL
Guten tag!
Some our biggest supporters are those that have had done to them what we are trying to avoid.
Danke shon for stopping by.
(Sorry, it was high school German class and 35 years ago!)
God Bless America and our Troops the Nevada Surrender will be the beginning of our fight for Freedom and Liberty…
I think the biggest reason as to why we did not have another Ruby Ridge was this time around, we have the internet. The tool allowed for everyone to get both sides of the dispute. We heard from Bundy and Harry Rieds link to the issue was exposed. The people were able to respond before the government could come up with a narrative. We had an armed militia as well as real on the ground reporters who gave us real info and not government propaganda. Though I do believe the government could try another trick and I do not put it past them…I would say we won the first battle not only in the Bundy dispute but in the war to take back our government. We the people are fighting a propaganda war with independent citizen journalist and the government is using paid propaganda dating back to 1950’s type reporting.
I have no doubt that with bowels of power the senate, congress, white house are all absolutely dumbfounded and are wondering why on earth the people do not believe them and actually showed up with an armed militia. I also wonder if they fear the armed militia and the citizen journalist showing up at their door next.
“I also wonder if they fear the armed militia and the citizen journalist showing up at their door next.
They should.
“When the government fears the people, there is liberty…”
Those sanding on the side of Bundy will eventually be outfoxed, outgunned or outlawed by the government.
Their only chance is to respond with random and individual acts of sabotage of government buildings, facilities etc. Hard to track,pre-empt or control.
This will be an unfortunate but natural development of government assuming that it has greater rights than those of its citizens.
I don’t think those chinese investors can ever imagine, how very bad their luck will be on that land, and in this country in general. They might be wise to just have us make payments on our debt, rather than try to colonize us.
It will save them money in the long run…
we’re at the one year anniversary of the attack on the electric grid that happened in California
even after a year the FBI still hasn’t solved this case
Frank Gaffney: The Risks to the US Power Grid
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2014/02/24/frank-gaffney-the-risks-to-the-us-power-grid/
California Nightmare: We Must Fix the Power Grid–Now
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2014/04/08/california-nightmare-we-must-fix-the-power-grid-now/
“It is hard to overstate the repercussions. For example, the chairman of a blue-ribbon congressional task force charged with assessing the EMP threat has estimated that, if the power is off over wide areas of the country for more than a year, nine out of ten Americans would be dead.”
it’s not a matter of if
it’s a matter of WHEN
Thankyou for your comment. The attack on the grid proves my point that it will be such quiet and unheralded attacks that will be the Achilles heel of government.
This just in from a White House source…..
“We DO NOT have funds to protect our power grids—that money must be spent stealing cattle and grazing rights from Nevadans.”
LOL!!!!
One thing the study does not mention: 9 out of 10 members of the militia will be unaffected (as in, not dead).
Who are they going to propagandize, then?
Soooo you’re saying that Occupy should have brought guns?
The problem is occupy was not about freedom. It was about class warfare. There is a difference. They would NEVER have come to the aid of Clive. He’s well monied and hard working. Everything I saw abuot occupy was nasty. …and I never watch or read lamestream…
Occupy was more about socialism not liberty.
Just had another 7.5 in the Soloman Islands about 1/2 hour ago. This is the same thing that happened after South Of African precursor earthquake occurred back in 2008, major earthquake swarm. The earthquake at the Pacific Antarctic Ridge was the same, either an earthquake swarm or nothing. The northeast Pacific plate is hot and should be watched closely. I will need at least one precursor quake on the outer plates to be for sure though what is to come. I would say continue to be on alert for Alaska to British Columbia for the best chance of something significant. California less so, but is in this zone along with Mexico.
Just another in a long list of earth change events. Bring on the clatyclisms.
@ Old Guy. Actually these earthquakes are occurring just like they have before. Look for the unusual earth changes that are out of the box. During the period of 1950-1965 there was a high uptick of large earthquakes like now. Then until 2004 after Christmas day Indonesian mega quake it was relatively quiet between 1966 and 2004. The volcanic activity is up, but it has been before during the past 200 years. The severity of the storms is something to look at. Largest tornado on record, largest hurricane to hit various coastlines, 5000 or 10000 year floods. That is something.
It is important though to look at past records and say, has this happened before. If so, then this is not a sure sign of Earth changes. The out of the ballpark records is what is to look for. OR a combination of extremes within a short time period.
This is not over by any stretch. The only main stream news channel carrying any of the Bundy Ranch news is FOX and they are lying by omission of facts. @ Rachel…you are correct, it is the internet and real time news outlets that saved this from escalating into murder of the Bundys and their supporters.
@everybody else…stay vigilant. Inform as many as you can, at the bank, at the grocery store, at the park, at the gas stations…a lot of folks don’t know what’s going on.
NPGH: Your right but even here @ the event their has been a lot of Spectators that are just in the road maybe by design? I don’t know ? but they have their mind made up,and it is to frustrating and time consuming to fix stupid they better figure it out and fast! Seems almost like another divide and conquer ploy to me ?
Stay the course, I am afraid its going to get a whole lot Rougher !!
NOMI & CATI
Take Back America one Day at a Time!!!
NPGH: Yup, Fox is really ticking me off….people think they are getting the “REAL” news….I sent updates all day to all my “fox news lovers” to show them what was really happening, then I sent them the fox report. I pray it opens their eyes, as they had my real information hours before…
PKLL
You can bet the feds are trying to identify as many of the folks who physically went and supported Bundy. they will skyrocket to the top of the list. And I truly believe their is a list. Be careful of what you wish for you just might get it. Many misguided folks actually want a collapse or revolution. Myself I would be content to live the remainder of my days drawing my pittance of a social security Ponzi check and playing hobby farm. Im not a denialist I know that,s not very likely. Im hoping the clatyclismic events being caused by the magnetic pole shift will separate the wheat from the chaff. call it devine intervention if you want.
TO THE PEOPLE OF BUNKERVILLE, Nevada
READ ALERT READ http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=877
To put it bluntly, the people are being hoodwinked into believing that the situation is being resolved. It is not. It is a strategic de-escalation to fool the public.
Date: Saturday, 12 April 2014
Time: 1840 ET
To: Steve Quayle
From Doug Hagmann
At 1750 hours ET, I was contacted by my source within the Department of Homeland Security regarding the current situation at the Bundy Ranch. To put it bluntly, the people are being hoodwinked into believing that the situation is being resolved. It is not. It is a strategic de-escalation to fool the public. This source stated that the retreat of the BLM agents and the release of the cattle was actually crafted as a potential plan yesterday (Friday, 11 April 2014) based on the following:
1. A military assessment of satellite and drone surveillance imagery of the “patriot resistance. Drones under the control of the U.S. military were in use, taking real-time photographic images of not just the activity at the ranch, but “identifying the protesters, any arms and any supplies they might have or be carrying. “Mission accomplished.”
2. Real-time communication intercepts between patriots on-site and their off-site support;
3. Active monitoring of internet traffic regarding the coverage of events at ranch;
4. The monitoring of real-time video from the scene.
This source stated that a response by the patriot movement was anticipated, although exceeded their expectations. Although this was a real operation, they also ran this as a test case for future government operations once they saw the response. They were also actively managing the media, in some cases threatening to cut off White House access to anyone covering the event.
Despite this, the coverage by the alternative media began to create a public relations problem that was not easily managed. Note the lack of acknowledgment by the White House regarding this event. They are intentionally framing it as a state issue, despite the fact that all federal response has been and continues to be from the White House. There is a reason for this – a reason that has not been identified in any of the public reports to date. I will explain in further detail in a follow-up report on Sunday, after this source attends [redacted] to obtain more specific information about future federal operations. Regardless, according to this source, the government will take back ‘their land’ as they must to fulfill international obligations. It was never about grazing rights or anything other than (1) “securing clear title” to the land, and (2) further demonizing any patriotic resistance. It is my understanding, based on the information from this source, that it is a critical task to create a situation that will also advance their agenda of gun control and confiscation.
A more detailed report will follow on Sunday, 13 April 2014, with additional and much more specific information about their inside plans and future operations.PLEASE MAKE THIS VIRAL!
You all may want to check out the audio tape on naturalnews.com between Pete Stantili and Dan Love of the BLM if you haven’t all ready?
I did…he is about as boneheaded as they come. How does someone get that brainwashed. I have been wrong on occasion and fought for what I thought was right but when I am shown the facts I concede. He didn’t even pause when the words came out of his own mouth that “this is public land”…uh derp we are the public tellin ur ass to hit the road.
Yes its public land. And so is the highways, parks, courthouses, prisons and host of other things. and the government employees are the stewards of that public land. and in order to maintain & police the public domain Taxes are paid laws are passed. Regulations are made. The police, matience workers and even the BLM employees are paid from the public coffers. Granted they are all parasites in that they produce nothing so their lively hood is funded by taxes. One exception is money generated by sales of the natural resources owned by the govt. things like timber ,minerals, gas & oil located on government lands. And in that exception is the grass & other forage Bundys cattle have been receiving for free.
So you’re saying that since the govt has the bigger guns, a corporate takeover is appropriate?
Should it be okay for your neighbor to decide he wants your shop too, to come over and throw you out of yours at gunpoint, taking over all of your livelihood?
Why not?
You just said it’s okay for the govt to take citizen’s businesses away from them, so the govt can make a profit from the sale of the resources.
You said “One exception is money generated by sales of the natural resources owned by the govt. things like timber ,minerals, gas & oil located on government lands. And in that exception is the grass & other forage Bundys cattle have been receiving for free.”
So if someone has a business that turns a profit, the govt can justifiably take it for the benefit and profit of the govt?
No wonder you only “hobby farm”…
Yes I Hobby farm. And Im proud of it. I produce for my own needs and have no desire or incentive to produce a surplus for profit. When I grow and consume my own food no middle men or parasites who have ought naught to do with my producing it are rewarded. I currently produce about 80% of our food. The point of my exceptions was lost on you. Example the Arkansas Game & fish generates their own revenue separate from the distribution of tax dollars by the legislature, They parlayed monies from sales of hunting & fishing Licences and fines paid by convicted game violators. That money was used to purchase land. And the Game & fish sell the timber and have sold gas leases and generated lots of revenue. Now the public has lots more open to the publc land & facilties . they also let farmers cut & harvest hay on some places for a fee.
No it wasn’t lost on me.
“Example the Arkansas Game & fish generates their own revenue separate from the distribution of tax dollars by the legislature…”—so just like I said, the govt is in business for itself, and it has no problem stomping out the competition, using it’s federal authority.
“They parlayed monies from sales of hunting & fishing Licences and fines paid by convicted game violators.” —Well, that doesn’t sound too “open to the public to me.” It sounds like a govt privilege that can be revoked at any time, not the rights afforded to an owner, which is after all, the same people they charge fees to use their own land.
“That money was used to purchase land.” —Do I really need to point out the obvious? If WE are paying for the land, it is OUR LAND. But they will charge us fees to use it and revoke our privilege to use our land at their whim.
“And the Game & fish sell the timber and have sold gas leases and generated lots of revenue.” —Like I said, they are a CORPORATION unto themselves, and WE ARE ACTUALLY SHAREHOLDERS, without any of the shareholder rights that other corporations have.
“Now the public has lots more open to the publc land & facilities.” —No. We are only allowed to use the land until someone like Harry Reid comes along and sells that right out from under us. Do you really think that once the Chinese ENN got control of that land, that any member of the public would have any access to it? REALLY? The fences would go up and the security would be installed to keep us all out.
You just are not very bright.
He did not “receive them for free”. He *OWNS* them!!! Jeez, people! READ THIS:
CLIVE BUNDY OWNS THE FORAGE AND WATER RIGHTS TO THIS AREA. HE IS NOT SKIPPING OUT ON HIS TAXES OR HIS RANGE FEES. HE IS NOT GETTING IT FOR FREE. HOW WOULD YOU FEEL IF THE CITY PUT A PARKING METER IN YOUR GARAGE!
YES, I’M FUCKING YELLING BECAUSE SOME OF YOU PEOPLE ARE SO DENSE!
Whew! Just couldn’t hold it back any longer.
NetRanger, I understand your sentiment. Dense, as in DK? Yep, neocons usually are.
That’s okay NetRanger, we all lose it once in a while…
Amen to that….
The two court orders are proof that the courts don’t agree that bundy owns them.
NR–you must not forget Ron White’s motto.
You can’t fix stupid. 🙂
Supporters of Obama not so supportive anymore.
http://youtu.be/VIMnIh10po0
Nice to see they’re not all stupid and/or on drugs.
Funny how the story makes fun of the unarmed protesters. Each protester got a ton of money for being pepper sprayed. In the end, the city and the college only cares about money. The blm will be back in a few weeks when everyone is gone
Nothing for them has changed. College protest made changes because they dont want to pay out again.
timfu,
Thank you for your above comment. It is greatly appreciated.
Where is Hanoia Jane when we need her?
Since this could be a civil rights issue, I wonder when the two Reverends will show up?
The reverands (intentional lower case) will be there on the 12th-OF NEVER!
Sorry, but buddy’s skin ain’t pigmented enough. bastards (sharpton and Jackson)
Haha autocorrect. Should have been bundy’s
Anyone interested in update to the minute information on what is happening in Ukraine as the Ukraine are going to soon launch a full scale security operation in the east, here is a link:
http://rt.com/news/kiev-clashes-rioters-police-571/
As I posted above, “I guess the Ukrainian SWAT equivalent had the sense to refuse to attack their own people, UNLIKE our BLM (and company).
Everyone keeps talking smack about Ukraine, but apparently, the FEDs could stand a few lessons from them on the issue of RESTRAINT and BLIND OBEDIENCE. I believe the BLM would’ve started shooting, had it not been for some unseen person calling it off. They are mindless attack dogs and nothing more.”
Ukrainians, OTOH, had more respect for their fellow man than to throw them under the bus, because ‘the boss’ said so.
Who is the backwards country now?
Be informed, it should be pointed out that RT is a Russian Government propaganda site and is expected to tow the Government line, which is not to be trusted at all! It has become increasingly difficult to get accurate information on Ukraine and Russia. I regularly watch the RT broadcasts on satellite. As one friend told me, “it is all lies”. It is a little more sophisticated than Pravda but none-the-less not to be trusted.
Thank you for the prescient up to the minute updates and informative comments regarding the recent earthquakes. You are truly “The Earthquake Man”! Thank you for the service you provide and the education you give to us.
I am worried for the folks in Nevada. I sure hope all goes well for them. They are in my prayers. I am glad to hear the local sheriff is taking a stand regarding the removal of the cattle. I wish there were more like our Sargent Dale and some of the other LEOs on this site.
So Bundy ranches and doesn’t pay…but he actually does when he files his federal and state income taxes on revenue generated by his business…but thats not good enough for the big government people…who think that he should pay more to them through the government, although they are not actually out ANYTHING from his actions. It cost them nothing. They haven’t been damaged a single iota.
But its okay for Reid to sell off permits on the land to foreign interests, pocket the money in backroom deals while generating NOTHING on the land that goes back into the tax payer’s coffers.
Yeh, that makes perfect sense to the loyal subjects of the black crown.
WHAT HAPPENS IN NEVADA DOESN’T STAY IN NEVADA..
Prayers for this sheriff standing for his people.
Local sheriff Cliff Snyder has notified the Forest Service and other state and federal officials that even though the Forest Service has a court order authorizing the confiscation of the Diamond Bar cattle, they “cannot be shipped and sold without being in direct violation of NM Statute.”
His memo also says “I intend to enforce the state livestock laws in my county. I will not allow anyone, in violation of state law, to ship Diamond Bar Cattle out of my county.”
Kit and Sherry Laney are one of hundreds, perhaps thousands, of ranching families who are being squeezed off their land throughout the West. This case has the potential to erect a barrier to further expansion of federal land takeovers in the West or to erase the last hope of retaining ranching as a part of Western culture in the United States.
Both ranchers and federal officials are watching with great anxiety as the conflict moves toward resolution.
The Diamond Bar Ranch is at least 180,000 acres and includes some of the most beautiful land in southwest New Mexico.
wnd.com/2004/02/23192/
We need to get involved in this one too….I’m going to try to get some links and phone numbers after church…..gotta run.
PKLL
We need to rise up wherever govt tyranny raises it’s foul and ugly head.
See Steve Quayles site, he has an article on this today, Monday.
PKLL
WonHungLow says: DK starts with the premise that the government’s claim to the land is valid.
As the lady said on Fox News, putting the situation in America today in perspective, if those cattle were illegal Mexicans, they’d have been handed an EBT card, free housing, and welfare monies by now. 🙁
Billions each year handed to illegals that contribute not one damn thing to our economy, but let’s slaughter cattle and jail a man trying to feed America.
This is just one reason we have become a laughing joke to the world.
Hey, I can’t find anything this morning….any news anywhere??? Oh and there is a great article to send to liberal family and friends on WND today (about yesterday and Harry Reid).
PKLL
Everything seems too quiet to me.
Someone at the location please go to the Clark county courthouse tomorrow. Ask to see the Bundy Famlys tax records at the county acesssors office. Is he paying the personal property tax on 900 cattle? is he paying real estate tax on any land? and if so how much land? Is he paying the tax on mineral rights on the disputed land? All those records are public. The courthouse has to let your view them. My self im going to try and contact the acessor online
in some states, there are homestead exemptions, and in others cattle are not taxed. Need to know the tax code, too.
The first revolution started because they didn’t want to pay the tax.
We don’t need them or the taxes, they don’t do anything but line their pockets.
Plain and simple.
Old Guy:
The Bible states that in the last days neighbor will be pitted against neighbor, family against family, and Christians will suffer greatly.
Satan sure has his tentacles wrapped around your soul, Old Guy. Hope to see what happens to the decisions you are making today as well as what you do in the future come judgement day.
you seem to be one of those turning against your neighbors just as Revelation states. Are you willing to supply the feds with names of posters here who support the Bundy cause, my name will surely be on your list.
You are an old foolish government hack who it seems is willing to go to any distance to discredit patriots and their cause. The PTB will deal with you when they take over America; they will know you are too dumb and too stubborn to ever be trusted even as their lackey.
Im not a Christian so I guees ill not suffer greatly. Bundy isn’t my neighbor. Im tunnel visioned on the cattle grazing and bundy getting something for nothing. Its black & white to me. You folks really believe that the USA would be better off without the federal government are delusional. Without the federal government checks arriving every month the economy would not just collapse it would grind to a screeching halt. Your electricity, water & all other services would cease to exist. You wouldn’t drive a vehicle. Shoe sole express would be most folks transportation. Thugs and drug lords would make the rules. The Federal government keeps the local & state goverments from running rampant. Yes things are very bad but they could & would be a lot worse without our federal govt. Since you cannot reasonably argue with facts and don’t agree with the message you try and discredit the messenger with personal attacks. A old childhood saying applies here. Im rubber and you are glue everything unjust & untrue you say & try to do to me just bounces of me and sticks to you.
At the moment the federal government doesnt do shit except run up our tab and step on peoples toes,
Is ok old guy, someday youll get it, i can only hope its too late.
really Just last Friday I loaded up three head of cattle and hauled them 50 miles to the sale barn at Ash Flat Ark. I sold them and Received $2400. No I drove there on roads originally built and reciently improved mosty by federal tax dolllars. when I arrivedat the sale barn there was veterainan who was checking for Diseased cattle. All the replacement cattle where tested for burcelliocus. and where sold on certified scales. I was paid by check that I know was good. and all of this wouldn’t be possible without the federal goverments stewards ship. On the way home I was stopped by the Dot & FBI who checked me & my stock trailer out. The made shure my stock trailer brakes where working and all lights & safety equiptment was working. And without the feds the roads would be full of unsafe vehicles. While I was stopped they stopped another truck pulling a stock trailer. And guess what! his truck was a diesel. So they sampled his fuel and found dye. He was ticketed for using untaxed farm diesel. They where checking for illegal drugs with a drug dog also. I was pleasant to them and they where very courteous to me. I reciently started drawing a check from the Social Security Ponzi scheme. Im smart enough to not bite the hand that feeds me. The fact is most that are posting here couldn’t survive without the federal government,s help.
I reciently started drawing a check from the Social Security Ponzi scheme. Im smart enough to not bite the hand that feeds me
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You just showed your ignorance–that check you receive is all the humongous interest for 40 years the govt. has made from your proceeds that is/was used to steal farm land from hard-working ranchers!!!
Its a Ponzi scheme ill like everyone else will get back every penny Ive paid in within 5 years. You cant lose or have stolen something that was never yours. When you buy on credit until you make the very last payment your nothing but a glorified renter. The same with Bundys claim since he doesn’t have a recorded Deed to the land heup until the time he stopped paying grazing fees was just a glorified renter. After he refused to pay. He became a deadbeat renter.
Enjoy your servitude,
Cant fix stupid.
I trailered horses from north of the bay area to scottsdale and trailered cattle all the way back in 82 and didnt get stopped once inspected anywhere and the buyer paid us cash.
We were a lot more free,
I would rather be free than safe, but hey, people like being safe little servants, ill pass thanks.
I drove semi truck for over 40 years. And back in the day I almost never was stopped by the DOT. I dodged the scale houses had a radar detector hid inside a CB radio two drivers licences and carried three log books. I reciently retired from driving and let me tell you with compuetors and internet you cant get away with any of the things we did thirty years ago. back then most of the trucks where junk and beat to death by after a couple hundred thousand miles. the last truck I drove was air ride with air ride trailer. That Truck Had over one milliom and five hundred thousand miles on it and would easily pass the toughest dot inspection. In fact the company owner would have the DOT come to their terminal and inspect the trucks. They put a sticker on the truck and we wherent bothered much out on the road.
Most of the roads in my state were originally built with state and county funds, not federal. After WWI, when the federal government started with matching funds, they mostly bypassed the south. Look up the Pershing Map. In spite of the lack of federal funding, NC is known as the “Good Roads State.” I think there are only 2 states with more miles of paved roads than NC, and most of those miles were built with state and county money. A large number of the state and county roads were originally laid out before the federal government even existed. They were built and maintained by local road crews.
I personally would not miss it if most of the federal government simply disappeared. Even on the internet, the part I use most, Usenet newsgroups, was created by UNC-Chapel Hill and Duke University.
In my state, the highway patrol checks trucks. And all this checking has made only a small dent in safety. I’m responsible for my own vehicles. If they need repair, I get it taken care of. I don’t wait for the government to check for me.
I get a SS check too, but it’s only a small percentage of my income, so I could easily do without it. In fact, I don’t even count it when doing a budget.
I’m glad you love the federal government, but I believe you’re about to be jilted.
not love but I can see the necessity. I agree it has gotten out of hand. but so has the local govt. The city outlawed to owning of pit bulldogs. They wont let you have but a certain number of yard sales and you gotta buy a permit for that. you gotta cut your grass, you cant have a non operable vehicle on your own place. Etc etc. Without the protections and appeals of the federal courts local & state Kangaroo courts would trample all counstitional rights. In 1957 The feds made Ark Gov Orvil Fabus intergrate the public schools.
OG
No one is saying the Federal Government doesn’t have a legitimate purpose. The problem is that they have far exceeded what most of us think of as legitimacy.
We live in a representative democracy, the problem isn’t with the democracy part. It’s with the representatives. Too many of our members of the Congress have given in to the temptation of power and have corrupted our government to serve their own needs.
It’s been said that the political system has been corrupted by big business who buy the outcomes they want. Rubbish, they buy advertising, lobbyists and the occasional Congressman or Senator but they can’t buy my vote. It’s our job as citizens to make an informed decision at the polls. If you believe the campaign ads you see on TV then you probably believe that the Patriot Act was about patriotism and that the Affordable Care Act was about making healthcare affordable.
As my father once said “If you don’t like what you’re getting out of life you’re probably getting what deserve”.
Stand up and fight!
Yes they likely cant buy your vote. however the votes of all the government paid parasites and gimmie sheeple that are for sale greatly out number yours. Omly a fool believes there is any viable political or ballot box solution. There isn’t any real or tangible difference between the cantidates or the party,s. I afraid its pretty much over for the republic.
Well, we are needing to put this situation in proper perspective…again…
Are 10 million illegal Mexicans paying taxes on the land they use here that the housing units sit on??
Are 10 million illegal Mexicans paying taxes on under the table income gained here?
Are 10 million illegal Mexicans paying taxes on the housing provided by the tax payers here?
Are 10 million illegal Mexicans paying taxes on the welfare and EBT cards they get by being in our nation??
Are 10 million illegal Mexicans paying taxes on the free breakfasts and lunch their children receive while being here?
Are 10 million Mexicans paying taxes on the free education their children get by being here??
Are 10 million Mexicans paying taxes on the free health care they receive here??
Good points JayJay. I’ll take a stab at your questions and answer with a No. But also, who is it that complains there isn’t enough cheap labor for harvest and farm work, thus here they come and subsidized heavily by the non farm taxpayer thru housing, medical, food stamps, and tax returns….
I’m not for any freeloaders, but IF many here call Bundy one, then let us please get rid of those FIRST that don’t help feed me and Gene.
EVERY meal in my home begins with ‘Our Heavenly Father, bless this food and bless those farmers that provide it, for without them it would not be accomplished…EVERY meal.
JayJay, I’m with you all the way. I’m sick of every “misinformed person” calling Bundy a freeloader. And yes, I’m having a hard time trying NOT to go off on anyone.
That was awesome JayJay….you don’t mind if I send it along with some other commentary?
PKLL
I don’t care PKLL–heck, feel free to add to it.
I think I stated here last week–Gene has a logger friend that has an employee–illegal Mexican– living on his log yard property with his American wife.
Well, 20 illegals showed up and they are all living in that single-wide mobile home. 🙁
I do get my farm raised eggs from him.
….sigh….
OG, what the hell does any of that have to do with anything? You are so infatuated with what you think OTHER PEOPLE should pay the govt—is that because you now don’t pay anything yourself? Jealous?
Social Security is turning you into an obamanite, if you don’t watch it…
There also may not be any records at the court house. He may have had the rights before the court house was recording.
…and, besides, its government. They feds could have gone in and just removed the records. Do you really trust them not too?
What you’re doing would probably be accurate in a state east of the mississippi but west of it? Don’t think so. Nevada is a state with a population density of 1.9 Peeps per sq mi. They are a little under manned and not too worried about things like this. Which is why the feds think they can get away with it.
I know for a fact that at least one court house in Utah burned down some decades ago, my mom had a hell of a time getting her birth certificate because of it. Court houses burn down, flood, whisked away in tornadoes, and until the age of the computer and the NSA stockpile, there was no other record of many things, if something happened to the court house.
I’d like to know how much of this land grabbing happens in counties where the old records had been destroyed by one disaster or another, many years prior.
Seems like if the historical records are gone by an “act of God”, there are millions of square miles of easy pickings around here. There will be no historical records and original land plats, copies of contracts and such to be found. Someone like the Bundys, with generations-old deeds, would be SOL.
Wonder what kind of disaster was suffered in Clark County, involving their historical records…
With a grin of sarcasm, by this logic, if the safety of it’s soldiers is reason to stand down, the fed may as well give up, say, “Here, have it, we’re done, don’t shoot.”
There’s something else up their sleeve. Look for this guy to be charged with a sex crime soon.
After the Alamo . General Sam Huston for the safety of his army . Tucked tail and Ran away and kept running until he wore out Santa annas army and then he won the war. The victorty at the Alamo didn’t seal the fate of the Texans. by your logic it would have.
Kiddie porn via satellite. The NSA has it all. They can manufacture kiddie porn evidence faster than you can make a PBJ!
NR–which is why I question most dirty laundry aired until the accused admits it–photo shop can reek havoc and documents altered may be our cross to bear for the conveniences we enjoy daily.
Hah! These guys look like a “well regulated militia” to me!
Remember, the “regulation” does not include any stipulations whatsoever about a dress code. Comments about the guy’s shorts, tho protected by 1A, have no place in the consideration of the constitutional principles being demonstrated by this small militia group. As always, white shirt, blue jeans, and cowboy hat is acceptable attire for any social situation.
Great foto, pretty inspirational.
Frankly, I think #9 looks like one of those guys that doesn’t need a gun. I’ve met a few. He could probably take 3 bullets and still twist your head off before he died. Just sayin’…
Maybe so about #9’s ability to absorb hot lead there, but the subtle humor in my comment regards how quickly the LSM would judge someone on his appearance. As I said, such speech about his style of dress is protected, but has nothing to do with the effectiveness of their well regulated militia activities.
Even my house wich has a Homestead tax exemption in Arkansas is listed in the property assessment records. I went on line and made contact with the Clark County Nevada Tax Assessors Website. Michele W. Shafe is the assessor. When I used the search feature and Typed the name Cliven Bundy. All I got was No Record Found For Your Action. maybe its because its Sunday? however I did find records for some other Bundys although not clive or his son.
Irrelevant.
If people don’t want to pay for their own chains then they can decide tomorrow they don’t want to.
What are you going to do about it?
That’s all that matters.
He may have allodial title, and therefore is not in the land records, and therefore doesn’t have to pay taxes, and therefore won’t show up in your search.
…this may be another reason their after him! They hate people that have allodial title. They’re not able to steal from the like they are the rest of us saps.
That comment about allodial title is the most salient point. can this be determined factually?
Did it ever occur to you that the property is listed by plat number, or that it is listed under his grandfather’s or father’s name?
What am I going to do about it? In the past Ive bought land that others decided they didn’t want to pay the taxes on. The Arkansas Commisioner of state lands has scheduled auctions of Tax forfeited lands. And I have bought several parcels some where unbelievable bargains!!! Lots of fun you can get into some of the best fights buying tax land. Sales info is Available online at the Ar commissioner of state lands website.
This guy stood up for himself so I guess you won’t be getting any bargains.
Fight? You couldn’t stand a real fight.
So the news today is that the feds, after backing down, have not returned, and the confiscated cattle have been released.
On this very page are posts by conspiracy theorists who swore that the feds would return overnight, maybe killing Bundy. Didn’t happen.
Also there are posts which swore that the cattle the feds had confiscated had already been killed.
Will the conspiracy theorists admit that they went overboard? Of course not. They’ll just come up with new nut-job statements which make all preppers look ridiculous.
Said the government troll
Not a gov’t troll – – just someone who reads the comments on here and snickers when they’re disproven, as anyone with half a brain could have foreseen.
Thanks Sovo.
Truth decay hurts, especially if one doesn’t care for the truth. I read that Bundy put out an informal request for local security assistance. He is still at risk for some kind of retribution from some party or other, whether government, or a private faction that is unknown to the general public.
It’s easy to dismiss knee-jerk predictions of overnight government retaliation. A competent malevolent government force would pick the time and place for retaliation based on their strategic analysis, an analysis which may or may not be astute and correct.
For some unknown reason, BLM waited twenty years for this action. They are clearly not going to do anything overnite, from my take on their perspective. There’s no question in my mind that something more than a bunch of cows is going on behind the scenes. They don’t send me any memos, and neither does Bundy.
***Troll ALERT***
(where’s Renegade Braveheart at?)
I’d like to see the actual number of posts here (out of 688, and read by over 19,000)that state that the “Feds would be back overnight”. That’s a pretty bold claim you have made and an awful lot of assumptions as well. Care to back up those empty words of yours? No?
Looks like the Feds are already on the move so in true western style- ‘I’ma calling you out on your statement’
DHS Insider: Bundy Ranch Standoff Not Over! Military, Federal Agents Seen Moving In
Sunday, April 13, 2014 7:44
It was easy to run federal agents off wasn’t it? It was too easy.
In this episode of The Truth Is Viral, host Bobby Powell puts together several pieces of information that have surfaced sine the BLM “withdrew” and conceded to the demands of Cliven Bundy. Bundy is the Nevada rancher who stood toe-to-toe with nearly 1,000 heavily federal agents for over a week. Fortunately for Bundy, thousands of unarmed protestors – and militia that were armed just as well as the federal agents were standing shoulder-to-shoulder with him.
But, as reported to investigative journalist Doug Hagmann – co-host of the Hagmann and Hagmann report along with his son Joe – by a highly-placed source inside the Department of Homeland Security, the BLM withdrawal was a fake. The entire standoff was, according to Hagmann’s DHS informant, a real world exercise designed to determine what kind of resistance the federal government will face should gun confiscations begin.
Read the rest and watch this disturbing video at:
h t tp://bobpowell.blogspot.com/2014/04/dhs-insider-bundy-ranch-standoff-not.html
It ain’t April 19 yet.
Socrates, I only said the feds will return, I never said WHEN. I’m not sure what day they’ll strike back, but I do suspect the 19th. We all know the significance of that day.
As reported by Socrates, who’s gotta be over 2500 years old:
“The entire standoff was, according to Hagmann’s DHS informant, a real world exercise designed to determine what kind of resistance the federal government will face should gun confiscations begin.”
My knee-jerk reaction to this supposition is pretty much agreement. Not total, but pretty much. This was not some random event. It has a twenty year long back story.
Also in the news today is the Boston Marathon Event. As is widely known, the city was locked down, and the work that government agents did on that scene has been compared to a large scale exercise in crowd control.
One can read the Newtown inspired legislation as another exercise, this time in the legislative arena, where, among other things, certain land records of participants all bear the same transfer date, and a law prohibiting public release of child victims was enacted about a year before the event, lending some credence to the idea that the event was scheduled, depending on the future outcome of finding, successfully medicating, and reliably controlling the antagonist.
The whole Katrina thing has elements of deliberate incompetence being used to control and corral people.
Again, for some reason, BLM waited twenty years before enacting these proceedings. It cannot be that they were waiting for this particular Blood Moon, before making their move. The reason it cannot be, is that the Blood Moon came after the temporary resolution of the fate of the cattle. There is some other reason for BLM to have waited twenty years. I have no idea: Why now?
The element of practice may be one of the links tying this trail of bizzarre events together.
Actually, nobody ‘swore” the feds would return, but noted that it might be prudent to be prepared in case they did…it’s a prepper site, stupid! Of course we’d prepare for the unknown.
AND at last count, it seems the BLM cows released was about 132 head short, or about 198,000 pounds of beef short. So they didn’t exactly get all of their property back, now did they?
How much is beef going for in your neck of the woods? 198 thousand pounds is a pretty hefty loss for anyone.
HAhahahaha. You’re very funny. Not 24 hours have passed and you’re trying to say someone is wrong? Well, remind me to be sure and not promote you to the tactics officer.
Of course they haven’t come back yet. Not enough people gone. Too many people *NOT* thinking like you. Give it time. If I were Clive, I would take out a $10,000,000 life insurance policy *TODAY*.
Man, f#$% you! go away troll.
Whats wrong, RB? Cant stand an alternate viewpoint? Is your opinion that weak? Can only those who you approve comment here?
I didn’t realize you and these others were the “comment police”. Next time you boast about what a freedom-lover you are, remember how you tried to shut up an alternate opinion.
Thanks Sovo.
you and sovo sure swap spit alot.
too much in the news blm had to back off. that said many of the reports and statements made by our side were exaggerated this does not help our side any. we need to be completely in the right so no one can find a way to degrade our cause.
I was outside hanging up laundry just now when two black helicopters with no visible markings of any kind flew over my small down damn near treetop level.
This rural area is not on any flight path and I have only seen one black helicopter in my 24 years here.
Strange.
I had 4 Blackhawks fly by to the west of my place yesterday afternoon. Been here since 96 and have never seen a Blackhawk. Seen Chinooks, but no blackhawks. Also find it interesting that my old Guard unit has started training using rotary assets. Never once did we have that type of training while I was in, except prior to deployment to Afghanistan, and then only at NTC.
Every so often, you see a trio of chinooks flying overhead. I go out sometimes and maybe flip ’em the bird. If a missile hits the house, then that proves they have good optics. Just sayin’.
Maybe they’re mapping the land for the next land grab—I’m sure China has already put in another order.
I think KY Mom is correct. Yesterday, the gov was humiliated, but they’ll be back, and in bigger numbers. As for Bundy, he’s got sand! The gentleman rancher stood his ground. I just hope he can still stand when the month is out.
I believe that it has finally come down to this, as much as I never wanted to see it happen. I had hopes that the gov would change and start representing the people once again. I know, wishful thinking. I do know one thing though, if something happens to the Bundys, that will be the spark that lights this country on fire. The suffering and loss will be horrible, but we will win. Too many Americans are upset with what has been going on since junior Bush was elected along with Darth Cheney, his Sith Lord.
I love this country, and yesterday the American People made me damn proud of my country for the first time in ages. God Bless everyone who stood with the rancher, wrote to blogs, called Senators and Congressmen, called the local Sheriff, Alex Jones, Santilli, Drudge, Moore, the Oathkeepers, the militias and a host of others. The Tree of Liberty, like the fabled Phoenix, rose from the ashes!
Yesterday, the first step was taken to reclaim our country. Americans, I salute you.
Why don’t you buy one of those 7.62 X54 Russian rifles and some steel ammo. Like the ones the gooks in Vietnam shot down helicopters with. Shoot them down and them ask them what their doing? Just kidding! Heck its almost 3:00 gotta go time to watch Bull Riding.
you mean the ones at j+g guns in prescott az where they go for 100 bucks?
I bought two many years ago for $38 each and bought a 1000 rounds of steel ammo from garyolen at the sportsmans guide.
well at least for a small amount of time, Old Guy, you will be watching bull instead of peddling it.
🙂
That guy in picture that’s front and center looks like he eats car doors for breakfast.
Never tried eating a car door. Or a piano. Not sure there’s much nutritional value.
since creech afb is just outside vegas, you can bet a drone has taken all your biometric mugshots and fed it to the new nsa center in bluffsdale utah.
and as terminator said- i’ll be back-
since we are all domestic terrorists now, if they let this slide, then that will only embolden the terrorists dont ya know.
Thanks for reminding us about Bluffsdale Utah— that’s another one on my shit list…
Its apparent we need to agree to disagree,
We all will not always agree.
Just an fyi
FET
Federal excise tax, you pay it on tires, fuel, oil, vehicles etc,,,
That is what the feds use for roads,
Every year tens of billions is collected from us whenever we fill our tanks, repair or replace parts or buy vehicles,,,
Yes and that money builds & maintains the roads & bridges. and if not for the federal government we wouldn’t have the infrastructure we enjoy. we woud still be crossing the streams and rivers on a privately owned ferry,s and driving on dirt roads.
You might by right OG, IF THEY ACTUALLY MAINTAINED ANY ROADS OR BRIDGES WITH THAT MONEY! It’s the COUNTIES and STATES that pay for that, not the FEDS.
Got that and the ammo. But I was not packing it, only my snake gun while hanging clothes.
Do not think for a minute this is over.
They were probing the lines, gathering intel. Identifiying the players. This was a recon op. It may have started as we are the FED screw fest, but they swithed gears once they saw what was happening.
I will bet they where using stringray to capture all the cell data they could. Names, numbers, contacts, you name it.
The next time they will take the intel they have gathered and calculate a different more appopriate response. I do not mean that in a good way.
They will setup interdicition points way beyond what they had now. They will preemptivally arrest / harrass those that came to help.
They will clamp down like no tomorrow. And they will come with a lot more trigger hungery jerks.
This was not the end, I fear it is just the begenning of something alot worse.
Be prepared.
SHERIFF AND COPS HAVE A CHANGE OF HEART: THEY REALIZED THEIR BEHAVIOR WAS IN THE OPEN … AND MANY AMERICANS WERE ON THE WAY. THEY HAD A COME TO JESUS MOMENT …
stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=878
Good update
ALERT:
This is scrolling on the Bundy Ranch page Request for Help from Bundy Family
Jerry Bruckhart Oma III
This just in from Bundy communiations: Many of the men involved in the
early operation have returned home at this point. OMA and the Bundy family
are asking for any private security companies or states militiamen that
would be willing to donate some time to secure the Bundy family through
these times to contact Jerry Bruckhart at 717-682- 8073 for further
information. PLEASE share share share this my fellow patriots!
God Bless and Thank you.
Wouldn’t it be nice if that was a well baited trap? I’m sure the govt has EVERYTHING monitored, and it would be tactically unsound to announce that one is alone…knowing there is a wolf at the door.
SLAM!
DUNK.
THERE WAS A GREAT ARTICLE– VERY INSPIRATIONAL– AT ZERO HEDGE LAST NIGHT ON “REVOLUTION”…FORGOT EXACT TITLE, BUT I PLAN TO COPY IT… REALLY COOL!
just some info that may prove helpful one day
How to record police encounters without losing your video
http://www.blacklistednews.com/How_to_record_police_encounters_without_losing_your_video/34449/0/38/38/Y/M.html
the popo is famous for stealing cell phones and then destroying them and for erasing video that reveals their crimes
yup
that’s the AMerIKa we live in
adapt !
Sure would like that first pic on a tee shirt and jacket. Hope this starts more people standing up to the wanna-be masters. We really need to take back America. Throw out the trash. Fire any and all who fail to do the jobs we hired them for. Thank you all who stood firm. Keep your powder dry.
Isn’t there some online print place where you can have your favorite photo printed on a coffee mug, coaster, hat or t-shirt? Time to hit google?
I cannot help, but to think this was a test, to see what kind of response the American people (Patroits) would do. They gleaned a vast amount of Intel from this exercise. At the next exercise and it will be soon, things will be entirely diffident mark my word. They used the lower part of the Government’s food chain on this operation (BLM). Next one will bring out the big dogs, my gut tells me it will be in May sometime, or early June. As for Harry Reid, he will pay no penalty for his treason, like all the rest. One thing for sure, they know a lot people are awake and watching, I think more than they realized are. KEEP YOUR EYES AND EARS OPEN TO THE THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON AROUND YOU! In the next one, our way of keeping up to speed just maybe blocked and our only source will be the MSM. If so Lord help us.
Just look around at all times and prepare; for it is coming.
NOMI should we give!
River-Rat and others here. If only one thing comes of this, I bet all homeowners are now thinking, I wonder who controls this land my home is on??
🙂
I know the thought occurred to me here in The Bluegrass State.
or, who controls the land NEXT TO ME? I live on the edge of a national forest…
My Great Granny would say “That’s God’s Country” 🙂
Looks like it to me—with beautiful Mt. Hood in the backdrop, it brings to mind John Denver songs…don’t know why, it just does.
I had been to the rocky mountains before I heard my first John Denver song, which was “Country Roads”. Been a Denver fan ever since…Sounds corny, but John Denver songs really take me home to other, happier places I’ve seen and loved.
I’ve set foot in every state on the continent, at least once. That’s a fact.
STRANGE NEWS ALERT
Anyone out there see the 70 something year old Neo Nazi that just killed 3 Jewish people in Kansas City? He was hauled away by the police yelling out Heil Hitler. On the eve of Passover. Went to the Jewish Community Center shot 2 people dead then went to the Jewish Retirement Center and shot someone else. Wolrd is going nuts isn’t it?
BI-the world may have already gone nuts! hard to believe what we see happening around the world and in our own country.
Now I don’t care who ya are that,s funny!
Old Guy:
WTH?????
Call me a racist if you wish. Im mostly german & swede. My grandparents blamed the Jews for the depression & WWII. They never would part with anything that the Jew scrap men would buy. So all My relations junk accumulated in fence rows and gullies for more than 50 years. When the scrap prices became high. I explaned that it was the Chinese that where Buying. The grudgenly let me haul it away on 50-50 shares. I made a good profit and they got the places cleaned up and good money to boot. I never did like Jews.
Racist.
Yes and I have a counstitional right to be racist if I want. In fact the KKK could field a candidate for president. Wait! they did rember George Wallace? and more reciently a bunch of black panthers and Christian hating muslim racist ran a mullato for president and he won! Twice?
LOL…
Old Guy: Your not a Christian and a Jew hater. Not that you care, but I’ll be praying for you.
PKLL
Old Guy,
Did you know that a Grandfather and his 14 year old grandson were murdered by that psychopathic piece of human excrement? Oh yea, and guess what, they were not Jewish, they were Christians. Having a good laugh now? I’ll bet the Jews don’t care much for you or your ancestors either.
Maby he was just killing them all and letting god sort them out?
OG: wow….
Funny BI: I watched faux newscast about this shooting. Never heard anyone call him a neo-nazi. Is that just your personal take on this story? The MSM gives us enough misinformation…..
@ Pissed Off Granny. ALL 3 news, if that is what you call it, including Fox News said the words neo-Nazi. 74 year old person that is a neo Nazi, that sure got me awake today. It is ashame though more people died for no real reason, including a teenager. I just wonder why some towel heads haven’t done this to some Jewish place of worship. These camel jockeys attack Christians and Jewish people all over the world, but it is rare in the U.S. That is bit strange.
Be Informed
If there is any truth to the tetrad of the 4 blood moons, which all happen to land on major Jewish holidays, then this action is not an anomaly at all, but part of a much bigger thing to come. The first of the series starts tomorrow night. Things are about to get very interesting.
Alignments of the Moon could have some gravitational influence on the plates. The mere thought of 4 blood moons can play on people that believe it has some bearing on their lives. Full Moons have for centuries caused all sorts of problems for people, then you get the reddish color that adds to this. Yes, I do think this can have a psychological impact on people and world events. Wars and other calamities can be brought on solely because of some belief and fulfilling it.
The lamestream media will carry hours of this story; but a story about patriots standing their ground…..barely a word.
This story will help the PTB to disarm us….thus we will be made aware of it over and over.
Do I feel bad about what happened to these innocent folks, yes I do.
Do I feel bad that the lamestream media has been told to not carry stories that would fire up patriots to take back this country, yep, sure do.
I could almost hear the cheers from many on this site. And plenty more would give them a thumbsup. Trekker Out.
This is far from over. Uncle Scam doesn’t just walk away with egg on his face.
Before we call this a victory, consider this. They triangulated the radio communication. They used drones and satellites to assess tactical advantage, and best believe ever single person there is now at the top of Uncle Scams $h!t list.
Yes, they underestimated the response they would receive. However, they took advantage of the situation and learned valuable tactical lessons which will be avoided next time.
They will wait for the whole thing to die down. To be remembered only in militia lore (you can thank the lame stream media for that) And when it is all but forgotten a month from now, they will hit that ranch with MRAPs and SWAT teams. ATF, FBI HRT. They will roll out the full package. They will be there for blood. It will be a miracle if no one on that ranch dies.
All that being said. What are we, as Patriots, reviewing afterwards to learn from our mistakes. From their mistakes. What can we do better next time? Before we throw a party. We need to realize this is FAR from over and as with any war, cold or not, tactics must be fluid and ever changing in order to win and succeed.
“Military tactics are like unto water, for water in its natural course runs away from high places and hastens downwards. So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak. Water shapes its course according to the nature of the ground over which it flows; the soldier works out his victory in relation to the foe whom he is facing. Therefore, just as water retains no constant shape, so in warfare there are no constant conditions. He who can modify his tactics in relation to his opponent and thereby succeed in winning, may be called a heaven-born captain.” SUN TSU
Totally unrelated. I just found a joke that cracked me up. That doesn’t happen a lot, so here it is:
A rabbit manages to break free from a research laboratory and finds a group of wild rabbits living in a field. He joins them and spends the day eating grass, stealing carrots and lettuce from a farmer’s field, and mating like crazy with all the female rabbits. However, as evening falls, the rabbit turns his back on his wild friends and heads back to the laboratory. ‘What’s the matter?’ says one of the wild rabbits, ‘Don’t you like it out here?’ ‘I love it,’ replies the lab rabbit. ‘But I’m dying for a cigarette.’
Didn’t see that coming!
Cracked me up good! Thanks!
BI: Something is going on around my little part of the world (Far Eastside of the New Madrid Zone). Animals are just going crazy, dogs act like they are walking on pins and needles and very restless, birds just touch the limbs and take off flying again, earth worms coming out of the ground also moles plumb crazy. Started early this morning.
RR–where you be?? Near Ky??
JJ: North of Henderson
Ah, you are almost in Indiana, and I am almost in Tennessee! 🙂
Logan County here.
Kentucky, home of 2.4 million residents and 2 million guns.
Above or below P dam? I am near you, I think.
PKLL
No, I’m near the northern Tn. line.
I’m in Southern Central Ky. only 15 miles from Tennessee.
@river-rat That sounds ominous. Hopefully BI will check in and give us his opinion. Stay safe!
While the mammals could be acting weird for a variety of reasons, I think the earthworms are pretty much only affected by something in the ground. I’d be watching that close if I was over in that neck of the woods.
RR, haven’t seen any of those things in my area but I will be watching for them.
I hope the Federal government is driven completely out of Nevada, including closing all the military bases! That will serve those fed motherfuckers right!
NCJOE, you just said something we can all agree with. Now that sounded good coming from you.
Too bad he was just being facetious.
If it goes hot and we have hundreds of dead patriots.
Strategically speaking. The easy targets are the politicians. And they are the head of the snake too.
We all cannot make it to Nevada. But most of us have corrupt officials locally.
4th gen warfare
sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com/2013/04/tyrants-beware-4th-generation-warfare.html?m=1
Took the words right out of my, uh, keyboard…
😉
More background
independentsentinel.com/chilling-truth-siege-of-bundy-ranch-reaches-into-the-white-house/
freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3143890/posts?q=1&;page=51
Shocking Allegations Show Harry Reid, Chinese Company Behind Nevada Ranch Standoff
This was a great article and one that I am sending on to all my sheeple.
PKLL
Kula’s article link was the one I was talking about….
” Victory for Citizen Militia: FedGov Pulls Out of Nevada: “Serious Concern About the Safety of Employees”” (qtd)
I’m compelled to agree with others who pointed out that it’s not over, and I think the title should be ‘Liberty wins skirmish in show of force’.
“In short, this time around our overreaching Federal government was out manned and outgunned.”
Won the skirmish through show of force. Congrats people, thumbs up, now lets check tape, so we know the likely response.
Last I read, the Bundy Ranch area was jammed of communications and etc. It is also near a military installation that enabled enforcement of the no-fly zone slapped onto it, and we also know there’s rather corrupt domestic and foriegn interest on that land area. We also know that from a fairly recent alert from Hagmann that their backing down amounts to a regroup over excessive response than expected. We also know that the Southern Poverty Law Center named militia types and Bundy supporters potential or direct domestic terrorists. We further know that BLM strongly desired and even caught on video along with a County Commissioner’s statement for the deaths of a variety of people. Since I don’t know the militia’s disposition, I did read logistical support was essentially placed on reserve should the need arise. Since I’ve read Bundy is requesting militia to act as security, it’s obvious; the Bundy family doesn’t think it’s over.
In basketball, this is like calling a blocked shot a victory; considering, much of the corrupt leadership remains free, and war-criminals like W. Bush, Cheney, Obama, Biden, and etc also remain free in addition to conducting treason. Then, there’s the many parallels to the Bundy Ranch who spectacularly lost without meeting at the same level.
Good job, liberty supporters, but lets not consider such wins as a victory but rather treat each win as a calm before the storm. Sooner or later, authoritarians always turn to considering violent crackdowns and hard martial law as the path of least resistance.
We should come to terms that sooner or later they’ll do the unthinkable for no better reason; they’ll be compelled not to stand down one more time without cascading their so-called achievements.
It’s a win; lets celebrate it and remain vigilant and alert. The worst could very well be sooner than any of us are truly anticipating.
Real good points,
They could use the alternate media coverage and the response of patriots to the situation as a reason to black out the internet and media and through martial law restrict movement etc,
That should serve as a massive call to action and to put aside any reservations we may have about the direction of this thing.
Side note,,
Key logging software is bugging my phone and pc
I know your watching,
Guess what, i dont care
I can help you get rid of all that.
-NR
I read this morning Gillispie is on the board of the Poverty Law Center too…along with the board of BLM.
PKLL
This is not about an NWO executed by the U.S. police state, but a N.Us.O. Why would the U.S. government be doing all this land control? Many of us having watching the various agencies going about their business in trying to control food production and water access, but why is this happening if not a hair-brained NWO?
The answer is that the Government knows of the coming Pole-Shift that will shake the ground world wide, driving the oceans inland for a short visit, killing all still on the coast and many more afterward due to illness, unattended injuries and food/water shortages. NASA has known about Planet X for over 50 years but are not telling U.S citizens. It’s the same all around the world. In a few years Planet X will become visible by the eye, then the SHTF.
Cris you have hit the nail on the head. The Climate Change and land changes are well known by the NWO. they know it is impending. Check out the US navy future map of the US. Death valley will become water filled again. the coast and all land below 475 ft elevation will be permanately flooded. Great tidal waves & sunamis will slosh great walls of water for a hundred miles inland. Now the main event could happen very soon or even if it a hundred years from now that really not to far in the future. I don’t know about NIBIRU but something is causing the magnetic poles to shift and letting the earth wobble and the speed of rotation change. Ive beeb trying to inform folks about the impending pole shift for quite some time. My advice is to become self reliant aquire KNow How and prepare to become Nomadic.
Yup, the bible talks about the earth wobbling like a drunk…not to mention the pole moving across the globe at record speed now…once it gets past a certain point, then the poles will shift….look it up
PKLL
Go USA! Very impressed here down-under. I’m afraid giving up our guns was a terribly bad move, but back then I wasn’t “Awake”, as you say. Wish you all the best!
Oh, I should have mentioned that NONE of this is in our MSM.
Ha! Nor is it in ours. Well, a mention here and there, thats it.
Its a hot potato nobody wants to touch. After all, full exposure might enrage the people.
Fortunately, we’ve had enough exposure to get the job done, for now. I liked the analogy of calling this a victory is like calling a blocked shot in basketball a victory (Seen2013). True enough. But, it is a victory however small. We use the time to regroup while they, too will regain their footing.
Whoa–this deserves moderation..
Whoa..you go girl!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHoj0WvzZ0U&feature=youtu.be
I meant worth moderation.
To all the Great American Patriots that are alive and awakening more and more,we must not stop now!! The American Revolution 2.0 is beginning go read the article @naturalnews.com and keep it going!Participate in the up coming Operation American Spring,to arrest all of congress and through them out of office!!
Never give or let your Gard down.
Take back America Now!!
It will be interesting to see (if its even possible) if the leaders of the various citizen groups actively supporting this rancher just disappear. If it did happen would you even know that it was happening?
What was at one time preposterous has over time become the possible if not probable.
The government is starting to get more corrupt,
Check this out
newsmax.com/t/?SiteName=newsmax#ArticleID=565327&SectionID=18
Note,
Our governor who pushed for this legislation is a washington insider who started as a US house representative.
Democrat, of course,
@ River Rat. So you are near the Ohio River? The New Madrid doesn’t seem to indicate anything huge coming. I would watch the San Andreas, Caribbean plate, and of course between 14 and 20 degrees on the Mid Atlantic Ridge. I normally look for anything over a 6.5. I have said before that the New Madrid is way overdue for a moderate earthquake in the mid 5 to low 6 range, which would be like a 6.5 to low 7 because of the dense roock under you. I am just not picking up anything towards the New Madrid. The Northeast Pacific plate and the northwast Pacific plate from Japan to eastern Russia seem the highest probability now.
If animals are actually weird, could it be the cold front that is moving in from the west? Do the animals get agitated like this with weather systems? Is there any toxic smell from a chemical plant? Is there anything that can explain other than an earthquake coming that the animals are going nuts. Is the water table rising suddenly because of the upstream melt?
I think the one item you mentioned that would concern me the most would be the earthworms if the ground has remained stable for the past week or so. Worms are highly sensitive to ground motions. If you start to see earthquake lights with this watch out. These lights occur because of the build up of pressure within the crystalline structures below, but usually ONLY with the type of faults that the New Madrid and San Andreas are, side to side moments. Thrust faults very seldom have earthquake lights before the fault breaks.
If you can’t remember the animals acting this way in the past, this could mean a moderate quake is coming IF there is not some other reason for them acting this way. I would ask also how long have these animals been acting this way? Moles sometimes pick up earthquake signals. Ants are very good indications. I would also look for snakes as this reptiles become extremely disturbed before earthquakes. If you know anyone with wells, ask them if there has been any drastic change in the well water levels or any different smells in the past day or two. I will keep a lookout for anything on the plate boundaries to see increases in tension directed towards the New Madrid. Please let us know of any other anomalies with animals.
BI: Will do. Static electricity seems to be a lot more than normal too. Heard 2 distance booms, may mean nothing. Last Thurs. 2 guys in a white truck down the road had 4 steel rods stuck in the ground in the shape of a diamond. They looked to be 4ft. between rods, and all were attached to a box in the middle. 0ne of the guys was writing down something at the box. No markings on truck, but white plates. Also, may not be related last Fri. and Sat. overhead we had chem-trails very heavy with over lapping x patterns, never before like this. All of this may mean nothing, but our dogs have never acted like this before. We have our own well and have not noticed any changes in the water level, but seem to have more air in it and a little more lime than usual not much though.
RR: Are you below P dam? I am above it, chem trails this last month have been really bad.
Hubby had a dream two nights ago (he rarely dreams and never remembers them) about an earthquake here. Three very large jolts, no rolling, three separate jolts, then he sat up and looked at me (sleeping) to see if I was awake, no damage to anything…..then he actually woke up and then sat up and looked at me to see if I was awake….
Very strange, he said it was so real…
PKLL
I still of the opinion the Cascadia and San Andreas will go first then the New Madrid. Im of the opinion its all being caused by the Magnetic pole shift. Now if the Axis of rotation shifts it really will shake things up.
The recent appointee to the head of the BLM is guilty of auctioning off our national resources to fulfill bank needs, it’s stealth bail in—you think that the Chinese are wanting return on the failed treasuries as a result of the federal reserve?
He should be hung by his balls and covered with scorpions.
Scattering like cockroaches in the light!
Amazing what the exposure of their dirty
little schemes can accomplish when the
pen becomes mightier than the sword.
***** MERS CoV UPDATE *****
Deadly Virus’s Spread Raises Alarms in Mideast
http://online.wsj.com/news/article_email/SB10001424052702303887804579499831393801054-lMyQjAxMTA0MDEwMzExNDMyWj
the spread among health care workers has got everyone spooked
this thing is a whole lot more transmissible than they are letting on
apparently it has mutated
Thanks Satori…
This incident could have turned bad if the exposure of Harry Reid’s involvement in a wind farm deal did not reach the public eye. Not to take away the glory from a WIN against Tyranny but I assure you this engagement was terribly unorganized. The video’s are poor and the next time those sniper’s will not be visible along the ridge line. I did see BLM had a helo. Did the Patriots have something to take that down? I did not like the mixing of combatants with civilians that carried small arms. Who held the high ground?
Tear Gas and pepper spray would have done the trick to turn the Patriots.
Everybody, you guys need to see the links on SQ’s site today. Very alarming and great articles…..Bundy has put out another call for help as 50 black trucks? are coming toward his house (as I understand it).
Also watch the video of two guys who were there….(“Sheriff Gillespie seeks slaughter”) they said that after Traitor Gillespie told them that BLM would stand down, then they went to get their cattle and that they (both sides) were set up. That those BLM guys were a sacrifice, hoping for a blood bath, which would then enable Traitor Gillespie to call in the big guys, martial law and then they would take everything…. Maybe this is old news to all you veterans….but it was a light bulb moment for me.
Gillespie set them up (traitor put BLM into the kill box, now does that make sense?), hoping that someone would fire a shot….and when he realized that all those amazing professional patriots were not going to fire then Gillespie finally came out to say that BLM would stand down….again….
Gillespie is on the board of BLM!!!! Wow……Isn’t that a conflict of interest?
More links about how our admin has given America away to Chinese…..It’s on, we are in the end game….
PKLL
What is SQ’s site? I am not familiar with that but would like to read it.
Steve Quayle….
Steve Quayle, use the ‘alerts’ section on the right underneath pictures, etc..
It has details from the nation’s citizens exposing what is happening in their areas.
Very informative.
Exactly….both sides were being set up, so Gillespie could call in the big guns, martial law and take everything over. Why put the BLM in the kill box? That makes no sense…
Oh, and Gillespie is on the board of BLM…..can you say conflict of interest?
PKLL
Going well so far… latest info…
Craig Leff said Sunday “the door isn’t closed” to resolving the matter involving rancher Cliven Bundy “administratively and judicially. We’ll figure out how to move forward with this. There was no deal we made.”
The fight widened into a debate about states’ rights and federal land-use policy.
“The BLM has a sacred duty to manage our public lands in the public interest, to treat all users equally and fairly,” said Rob Mrowka, senior scientist with the Center for Biological Diversity.
The Feds are sacred, WTF?
3 ways the Fed tyrants might ensure that Bundy and some of his armed supporters are made to kneel before Zod:
1) Contempt of Court
2) Criminal Charges for Threats To Federal Officers
3) Criminal Charges Against Militia Members Who Brought Guns To Nevada
See Dave Hodges article on this….
4) “car accidents”
5) “gas main ruptures”
6) “strokes”
7) sudden case of “lead poisoning”… deemed a “suicide”… in the back of the head… 15 times…
@ Old Guy. Many geologists feel like you that the San Andreas is pinned by the Juan de Fuca plate (Cascadia Fault) and when it goes it leaves it open for the San Andreas to move northwest. This then will trigger the New Madrid like when the central part of the San Andreas and the New Madrid both broke 200 years ago. Don’t forget though about south of the New Madrid with the Caribbean plate. In 1812 Venezuela had a great to mega quake. It will all depend on how quickly any axis change to just how catastrophic everything will be.
The Central Mid Atlantic Ridge had another earthquake this morning and this one points like a sniper right at the Australian plate AGAIN. No other major earthquakes have followed before that have not hit the Australian plate. This is from Indonesia and the Philippines to Samoa down to the Kermadec Islands/Fiji and New Zealand. The 8.1 Samoa earthquake 5 years ago occurred after this same spot was hit on the Mid Atlantic Ridge. Also a swarm of major quakes happened in the Vanautu and Santa Cruz Islands. So the Australian plate is not done yet and we can expect eihter more major aftershocks or new very large earthquakes. I would say the upper limits of an earthquake in this region is probably 8.9 to 9 because this area just doesn’t lock itself enough for a super mega quake to hit. Still a high 8 or 9 would send a large tsunami into many areas, especially New Zealand. This whole plate actually from Pakistan to Tonga needs careful observation. India and China are part of this and are also in danger for at least 15 days from today, or until about the end of the month.
It amazes me how many people still think these abnormal clatyclismic & weather events are caused by mans activities. Its even more absurd to belive man can mitigate the climate change. Our goverments know what is occurring. The NWO knows whats in store. The fact is they really could care less for the helpless sheeple who do their bidding. They are worried about who will produce for them in the after time. The powers that be can inprison or take anyones property under the guise of environmental law. There was a discussion about putting a $25 per head pollution tax on cattle. Because cattle make methane. A cattle fart tax? My prediction We are headed for a great world wide clatyclismic event- economy collapse- martial law- race wars- ethnic cleansing and fighting tooth and nail for scraps of food. Its unavoidable and no milita or no government can change whats in store for mankind. My advice is become self reliant learn Know How and become nomadic. Remember DTA. Don’t Trust Anyone.
This was a ‘dry run’ to see just what would happen if militias responded to a liberties, rights threat. Read my post above. The government didn’t surrender or back down in any way, rest assured. They controlled the area from start to finish, with:
1. Controlled airspace above
This means no small aircraft or civilian over flights of the area. Proximity to drone base made it easy to get eyes in the sky complete with Hi-res sat and IR footage. They knew where everyone was at all times, good and bad.
2. Controlled communications
They shut down the nearby cell towers to restrict immediate access then re-opened their own Stingray (and other)cell phone ‘traps’. Your phone doesn’t know the difference between real and ‘imposter’ cell towers, and they gleaned a lot of data from the conversations that went on.
3. Controlled MSM
You really didn’t see much TV coverage of this standoff involving Federal agents, did you? They allowed FOX to cover part as the left (and others) largely discount anything that FOX covers anyways. Kinda like their own dis-info arm.
4. Controlled resources
Hotels, lodging and others have been quickly snapped up by the U.S. with YOR tax payer dollars. They use your own money against you. Ouch.
5. Controlled Outcomes
By destroying waterholes for the cattle, they have already put obstacles in place to make resistance tougher. They really don’t care who lives or dies in any of this, man or animal.
I’m not cheerleading or rooting for the bad guys here, just stating the obvious. While people are busy shaking hands and congratulating each other over what didn’t happen, they better start analyzing what DID happen. The enemy has watched and learned… have we?
Well said.
Socrates, Thanks for your analysis. You are pretty right on target. What were they not able to control? How can we get around their efforts to strategically control the situation and the narrative.
Certainly, they cannot control sentiment completely. My heros have always been cowboys, as Willie Nelson put it. They could not control the cowboys. They could not completely control the flow of information into the alternative media. They may have problems controlling their men when the PMs start flying in their direction. They looked ferocious in their outfits/dessert cammos and behind their dogs as they threatened to shoot the advancing civilians.
What would happen if an old fashion stampede occured in the direction of the cattle theives with cowboys on the wing? The future of modern warfare? The cattle thieves are bunked up in the hotels? I wonder how long that war will last against the cowboys?
Not a bad dispassionate telling of items 1 thru 5 there, Socrates.
@ Socrates. You are only stating what is likely very ugly for the future. We all need to be prepared for much more that tests just how committed people are to freedom. Even a small victory, it is a victory to see that people did come to the rescue of the Constitution. It shows that there is still that spark of liberty left in some people. The rest of the zombies are more interested in the crack of the bat that baseball season is now on.
Something to look for is April 19. This is a date that has some strong meaning to the everything. I would not at all be surprised if April 19 had a massive catastrophe that was NOT man made, but something natural like geophysical. The earthquakes are sure ramping up. Of course it could be just another day.
The Glenn Beck Radio show is on, now I Raise beef cattle and to me it seems he is talking out of both sides of his mouth. I cant tell who he is defending. Mr. Bundy is gona be on the show..I is on at 10:00 Eastern Time, it is 10:24 now..
I gotta agree with Socrates assessment. The Government didn’t really lose. the protesters didn’t really win. Bundy still has the court orders against him. Some cows where released some cows where taken. No humans died. Two bulls where killed. I reciently sold my bull it brought $1700. so Bundy lost a couple thousand at least? Kinda looks like stalemate outcome to me.
Old guy, I can see Mr bundy having to sell his Cattle off before this is over. At least he has them and he’ll be able to get Market value as you did, not pennys on the dollar.
Ok so bundy sells his cattle. He is not going to be paid in cash. When he or anyone deposits a large check the IRS is notified. the funds wont be released to bundy because of the judgment against him. He might get a straw man to sell them for him. Guess what I doing with the money I received from my cattle? I am mailing a check to the IRS today to pay my 2013 self employment and income taxes. Nothing like waiting until the very last day.
Late to the reply party here, but this whole incident here in Bunkerville amounts to bunk, IMO. Where are the patriots on the inside job of 9-11? I guess that’s old news and not believed by enough to enact citizen reaction. The comic book farce that is the 9-11 Commission investigation has gone unchallenged by the American people. The majority think it was done by Arabs. Is this not a dumbed down nation? This event has brought America to collapse, and is ignored near completely. This event deserved a million times the reaction of this Nevada episode. The lamestream media’s tactics work.
Aljamo–the difference is timing.
It took several years for the evidence to surface about the elitists/Rumsfeld/Israelis just to name a few behind the 9/11 murders.
This event with Bundy has just been made known by the Internet news agencies, thankfully.
Timing is everything sometimes.
This event has also exposed this travesty of China buying land near Air Force bases in many states to the surface thanks to the treasonous evil beings like Reid and his son.
That is a good thing.
I heard on a radio show that the Storm Troopers were in Mesquite all stocked up and ready to roll. They occupied every hotel room in the city. Calls were made to the hotels asking about the ATF and other agents and the hotel clerks hung up on them every single time they mentioned the ATF. Coincidence? I doubt it. These thugs are getting ready to roll on Mr. Bundy and kill every one there. When this war starts we cannot win with a direct confrontation. It is impossible. We have to strike them at their weakest points which will be where they reside. So when they all head to the hotels at night we move in, surround the hotels and keep them inside. It’s going to get ugly real fast and the Great Usurper will declare Martial Law and try to disarm the American People. Keep in mind that technically there is NO way legally anyone can declare Martial Law. It is NOT in the Constitution. So, if they do declare Martial Law it is not legal and is a usurpation of the Constitution. Get ready folks, it’s about to get REAL UGLY!
Lock and Load!
@ Old Guy. The protesters didn’t lose though. Just imagine IF no one came to Bundy’s aid. This would have really given the feds a green light to do whatever in the future without any resistance.
Off Topic…another economic indicator
Virtually Unreported: Mortgage Loan Market’s 2013-2014 Collapse
Mortgage originations compared with the same period last year…
Wells Fargo – the nation’s largest mortgage lender had a 67% DROP.
JPMorgan Chase Bank – had a 68% DROP.
“The so-called “HOUSING RECOVERY” the Associated Press and others constantly tout DOESN’T EXIST.”
-News Busters dot org
Citi Mortgage Originations Drop To Record Low
“71% DROP from a year ago”
“NEW RECORD LOW at Citibank”
“But what was worst, and naturally will not be discussed at all by the peanut gallery, about Citi’s just announced results is that the amount of Citigroup mortgage originations – that key aspect of the trumpeted “housing market recovery” – did what it has done AT EVERY OTHER BANK. It plunged.”
-Zerohedge
Direct links…
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2014/04/11/virtually-unreported-mortgage-loan-market-s-2013-2014-collapse
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-14/citi-mortgage-originations-drop-record-low
from some of the guys on the site in Bunkerville, Nevada.
It was a setup :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilDfAqDNUe4&feature=em-uploademail
Yup, this was good and a light bulb moment for me…..
PKLL
They just may take out the Bundies to throw the ball into our court, so to speak of, to see how far we are willing to go. So if we take it to them like we should then all bets are off, time for the games to begin. Peerless times are ahead, I feel that way down deep inside. The Shit just may be hitting the Fan.
Draw your love ones close for they are all we have. Till we meet on the other side. Prepare like there is no tomorrow, because there just may not be.
Go read SQ’s site today, amazing scary links and articles and read the Q alerts, things are ramping up….the real truth is starting to come out very quickly…
PKLL
Was is the “SQ site”?
Steve Quayle
Waaaaay too many comments for me to be reading through…
Guess I got used to seeing a new article pop up after 300 or so comments on the previous ones.
Who runs the FB page dedicated to this site? Only 5k likes but this article all by itself has 28k views? Slacking…
red
if you’re a facebook fan you shouldn’t even be here. go watch some tv
Wrong… you’re wrong.
Apparently you’re comfortable with waiting for information and being kept out of the loop. I’m not… and I do not trust the MSM. Judging a person based on their methods or lack of OPSEC without weighing the benefits is ignorance in its purest form.
I’ll tell you what… cut off your internet altogether. Going without the people I personally know and making decisions based on their first hand accounts is vital to me.
Since when has survival or preparedness as a whole become exclusionary?
Where do you go to seek a different perspective?
Keyboard commandos and arm chair agitators are all I ever find these days.
If you’re a white male then you shouldn’t even talk race…
If you’re a man then you shouldn’t even debate abortion…
If you’re an atheist then you shouldn’t even say God…
If you’re the non-inclusive judgemental type then you shouldn’t even comment on my shit when I explore the opportunity to use social media and expand the informed population.
Jeez…
go do facebook… make sure you post some funny pictures of yourself too.
don’t forget the pics of my dinner (meat), dog (none), truck (none), my guns (just a few), property (ha! whats that?)…
You know so much for a person who has no clue.
your funny…. why do you have men?
rede2lead: Not sure I would follow your rede2lead. You seem a little angry, arrogant and confrontational when it’s necessary. Not the right qualities for a leader in my book.
I don’t think most here do FB. Not sure why you do.
PKLL
I find it frustrating how many folks frown upon those who use social media to learn or spread new ideas… it just irks me. Whatever happened to helping those who need a point in the right direction? I don’t care to spoken to like I’m some mindless drone who is addicted to reality shows and energy drinks… my eyes are open and I want others to do the same.
EDIT: When it’s NOT necessary…
Since when is a white male not a race
Since when was a man not one of the parents
Hah! Ready2Lead. Spot on. Keyboards are fun. I use mine every day!
Are you late to this particular party?
That was for rede….
I guess snide remarks and being exclusionary to outsiders is the norm here and its just not my cup of tea. You and others don’t care for FB or other sites like that but they are in fact linked here. It gets at least some traffic from there… I asked a question and have received my fair share of flak because of it.
I’m sure Mac or whoever operates this joint might appreciate some new clever pseudonyms to chime in, or in your particular case, judge and critique him/them and new readers from afar.
The bearded BLM agent spotted in videos at the gate trying to negotiate a pushback of protesters just prior the the BLM pullback and release of Mr Bundy’s cattle is a current special forces operator serving as a government contractor/mercenary/security consultant.
Elvis.
That is a good point that the BLM may have Merc’s in their ranks. With an initial engagement you can bet it will be worse the next time and the escalation can be stunning.
Horses with Cowhands and flags. Real nice for the media to see. Have a few of those 1700 pound animals get frightened and run through the crowd and see what happens.
Better get organized or many will die.
Elvis, not sure you can comment further on this…but how do you know?
I’ll understand if I get no response.
PKLL
was it over when the Germans Bombed pearl harbor?
this is far from over, people
( yes i know the germans didnt bomb pearl harbor )its called movie humor
the fact that no three letter agency has a court date for putting up “Free Speach Zones” ( yep its not over)
the fact that no BLM fucker has a court date over violations to Mr. Bundy’s Civil Rights (yep its not over)
I’ll bet that area in Nevada is still saturated with Feds and other 3 letter agencies ( yep still not over)
until we the people truly “win one” it will be quite obvious , because not too many dip shits will step up to take the governments side.
keep hunkering and stackin, peeps..
they were just learning the locals fortitude.
But it gives me hope that one day if the idiots of this country decide to come for the fire power , that there are those of us that will not back down to tyrants
Its boils down to this Bundy and his supporters think that the forage & water rights belong to Bundy. unfortunately the courts have decided other wise. Did he appeal the two court orders telling him to remove the cattle? If he did I would really like to see the court documents. If he did not appeal the only thing I can say is (He who will not when he may when he will shall have nay).
I hope you stay the “letter of the law” type guy when the powers that be decide to outlaw and kill anyone with a screen name of “Old Guy”. Sometimes “the law” is wrong. That is how our country come to be. We said enough is enough. Just because a beaurocrat writes a law doesn’t mean that it is just.
Ill cross that bridge when I come to it.
Well Glenn Beck has droped the ball on the Bundy round up.
He started off with untrue statements, buy saying the cattle could turn the land into a Desert, 500+ head of cattle cant impack 6000Acres. Sorry Glenn nice try. And they would destroy the water..Beck stay in the city where you belong..Glenn tried to trip up Bundy repeatedly, but at 76 Bundy is as sharp as a tack and stayed on point, he is very educated on the matter. Stew Continued repeatedly to ask, they gave your cattle back, Bundy couldnt make the dumb ass under stand only after the cowboys were going to take them back one way or another, till that point the blm wasnt giving them back. My Opinion is Mr Bundy made a fool of Beck. I truely know who Beck works for now, himself. Beck also seemed to think having all the Patriots at the Bundy ranch was the wrong Approach..I think also Beck might have a problem with the people Supporting the 2nd Amendment..
@ PA farmer…I listened to that interview too. I used to be a Beck fan but not for a few years now. His last year and a half at Fox, he sucked…he treated his audience like we were morons and would never seem to get to the point. Another thing, he won’t give infowars the credit it deserves for breaking the news on Reid. One of the articles Beck had on his site, The Blaze, the commenters were pissed at Beck, calling him a sell-out. I agree with them. Same with his facebook page. It seems a lot of people and all at once, lost any faith left they had in Beck. Me too. I won’t even turn on his radio program now. People were also complaining about how Pat and Stu were making fun of Johnny Cash. I didn’t hear that one, it must have been Friday mornings show.
Ditto. He is a wiener. Lost me with his “this breaking story will bring down Congress and life as we know it” stories. He did that twice. All he is after is selling ads, being a pussy, and selling gold. Can’t standing his site and the annoying pop-ups and ads.
Half the nation lost faith in BECK when he made fun of those that just wanted an eligible man in charge in the White House–someone not dual citizen and a natural born citizen.
They tuned out after his statements–I read he lost MILIONS of listeners then.
Npgh, Yes how could I leave the Reid land grab out. Beck said that has been debunked, not true. Wow! That was fast, do tell Mr Beck, where did you get your info from, gov com maybe cnn..
Glen Beck IS A Shill, Zionist isarale jew firster swindler scam. aka a 100% A-1 DIS-INFO Agent of the I’nth Degree. Like some of Us here have been Trying to alert you folks to for quite awhile now.
Them Guys:
Jeez, whether GB is or not….not everybody you dislike and disagree with is a “shill zionist israele jew firster swindler scam disinfo agent evil goyim hating Talmudic baby murdering….”
Give it a rest.
Wrong approach? In all these years, thru all the courts and all the money Bundy has spent….this is the only thing that worked.
I’ll be mailing GB in a few….hope all the disappointed/betrayed former GB fans will do likewise…
PKLL
world wide web .jrn.com/ktnv/positively-lv/Sheriff-Gillespie-receives-Congressional-Proclamation-251338201.html
http://www.jrn.com/ktnv/positively-lv/Sheriff-Gillespie-receives-Congressional-Proclamation-251338201.html
He doesnt qualify
..he didnt uphold his Oath
VRF: No, he got it because he swore his OATH to dirty Harry Reid.
More agents and equipment arriving at the Bundy Ranch It’s NOT over. Get the word out folks.
http://www.brotherjohnf.com/archives/288541
dang it…
I only wish we could declare a victory on this. Rest assured the Feds are debriefing the fact that they underestimated the resolve of the American patriots. Another place, another time and they will be back.Next time they will be ready.
Bundy Ranch Blogspot to keep up with what is happening. You can also add your phone number to their system if you want live TEXT updates sent to your phone.
Link: http://bundyranch.blogspot.com/
The Bundy’s also have a youtube page: https://www.youtube.com/user/jaredwalther56
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/bundyranch
Join the battle Patriots!
In preparation for the next round of governmental activities, of this or a similar nature, that will necessitate a coordinated response from concerned citizens, how can personnel and resources be mobilized? With OPSEC in mind, what modes of communication can be employed to coordinate the activities of concerned citizens?
1,014 comments is more that I have ever seen on a thread since I have been coming to SHTF. It sure loads slowly on my old decrepit internet!
The Baltic Dry Index is down to 1002, less than half of what it was at the start of the year.
In May 2008, the BDI index reached its record high level of 11,793 points. In Feb 2012 it hit its low of 647 points. Its originating level was 1,000 in Jan 1985.
When the BDI increases, dry bulk shipowners increase their margins and revenues. Russia is joining China in digging the new $60 Bil Nicaragua canal that will accept larger ships and increase the BDI when complete.
When the BDI decreases, every other consumer/producer in the global value chain see their procurement costs go down, producers benefit from increased margins, and consumers benefit from lower prices for finished products. It means a slower economy and the price of PMs like silver rising.
Harry Reid speaks
or Profile in Cowardice
Sen. Reid on Cattle Battle: “It’s not over”
http://www.mynews4.com/news/local/story/Sen-Reid-on-Cattle-Battle-Its-not-over/nT5weKnqFkezV14I5GhESg.cspx
can’t have citizens violating the law
but perfectly fine for the government to do so
ain’t it Harry ???
this guy make me want to throw up
Satori: Good catch…if this doesn’t convince people that the game is on, then nothing will. I actually thought that he would down play the china/fracking thing or give some big excuse and explanation how giving America away is a good thing…but NO. He just didn’t bat an eye and is pushing forward in all evil arrogance…..
Good Lord, we have a fight ahead of us….
PKLL
Reid is worse than Quisling was for 1940 Norway.
Victory my ASS !!!!You have to be kidding me …..the government doesn’t just go away
What a piece of propaganda
Rich99k: Propoganda? No, how about, just for a minute, people had a little hope and a small victory and were rejoicing in it.
Victory my ass !!! Watch when the feds return and we will see what you say then .
I’m on the side of the bundys.but the feds don’t just go away ….that’s naive thinking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLRlY46ttfE#t=78
This affects all of us. Here is how. The affordable care act. It’s the law now whether we like it or not. When we cannot or will not pay our fines they will come after each of us through the irs and judicially.
Bundy and 53 other ranchers he said on an interview took the epa and the blm to court in 1993 and won the case because the blm was increased their fees to an amount that would break everyone and the epa cut the allowed herd size. The lawyers told the judge that he had no jurisdiction over fed policy. That is how this all started. Bundy is that last of those rancher holdouts.
This is important not because of some guy “freeloading”, it is important because this is how the gov’t will come after everyone else. This is why we should stand with bundy.
Yes the deadline has passed. and the wife and I didn’t buy any health insurance. so I assume we are now considered criminials for refusing to engage in commerce. Now that’s something to be very upset about. becoming a criminal subject to punishment without due process for doing absoultly nothing. My thought is since I cant get the folks who initiated the Tax Law mandate? ill just do my best to get the enforcer. Im old & already lived a full life. So today would be a good day to die. If I had been compelled to go to Nevada I wouldn’t have stood around and postured. I would have gone hunting cocking the hammer and pulling the trigger. ether do what is necessary or do nothing. Half measures wont solve anything.
Old Guy.
I believe today is also the day, the people of the Great State of New York, have to have their Assault Weapons registered or demilled or face fines or prison.
Yes, Instant Felons.
This guy has done his homework as a journalist about the Bundy Ranch incident. He explains the disinformation, the rumors and the truth about what has happened so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFiosLqjoQQ
This guy has done his homework as a journalist about the Bundy Ranch incident. He explains the disinformation, the rumors and the truth about what has happened so far, and who is behind all of this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFiosLqjoQQ
Spread this video, make it viral!
http://benswann.com/exclusive-sources-inside-the-blm-and-las-vegas-metro-say-feds-are-planning-a-raid-on-bundy-home/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iayVoKJbRNo#t=22
Bunkerville, it kind of rhymes with Bunker Hill!
DK: Doubt this will find you so late but this is a great video that explains Reids involvement and how grazing fees were only a cover story.
http://usnewsghost.wordpress.com/2014/04/15/bundy-ranch-bureau-of-land-management-blm-cattle-conflict-showdown-revolution-not-over-harry-reid/
It may be too late but as anyone that has ever been covered in another man’s blood knows, you try and avoid violence until it becomes inevitable then you try and kill all of the opfor before he harms you.
Constitutional Homeland Security by Dr. Edwin Vieira Jr.
This is the book by the nation’s foremost expert on the militia and our specious monetary system. What does the constitution say is “…necessary for the security of a free state…”? Yes, the answer is a well regulated militia. Is the National Guard the militia? Well, let’s look at a couple of things; the full name of the Guard is the Army National Guard and the Air National Guard. Also, the militia can only be called up by congress, not the POTUS. (see Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15) In that clause we also learn that the militia can only be called up for 3 reasons, to “…execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions.” We don’t have lawful authority to execute the Laws of the Union in Iraq or Afghanistan or Libya or Syria.
Please work to reconstitute the real constitutional militia. It is the only hope of regaining liberty.
Just one question: Remember the East German protesters in Leipzig, as Communism fell, **and none of the Stasi or military would pull the trigger on the non-violent protesters.** Same thing here. Our side is non-violent. The fascists are not. So… what patsy are they going to get on the bad guys’ side to start the violence? And how will they do it with a thousand citizen journalists around (sorry, Sen. Fascist Feinstein, but your “only govt permitted shills allowed to report” was outed by the Electronic Frontier Foundation). No doubt they’ll find some way to do their dirty deed after dark, using the fascist EPA to claim cow farts are causing global warming, are similar, but here’s the key point: Each vile, arrogant move they make pisses off another half a percent of the population. And ObunglerUnCare pissed off a full couple percent. How long before they have no one to figuratively (or literally) pull the trigger for them? E.g., there are already a number of sheriffs in NY state that will NOT enforce Cropola Cuomo’s gun laws. This is going to get bigger and bigger as people realize that they will eventually be caught up in the madness. And therein lies our (temporal) salvation – – people, even among the PTB, are deserting the ranks of the oppressors. Our goal, then, should be non-violent, but just educate and inform people.Like this site is doing
Why all the 36 yr old leftist BowelMoveOn.org shills here, posting from mommy’s basement as they wait for their welfare $ to come in?
Just asking.
Don’t be fooled for ONE SECOND.
It is a fake retreat, THEY are not going anywhere.
ONLY the militias are going home …
Whether as ones, twos, fives, tens or larger units; formations are easily flanked (including by air) if their centers, and forward, rear, left and right flank guards are any closer than just in contact. Concentrations of forces in one or just a few places are easily outflanked. Forces dependent on enemy, or even dependent on friendly supply that is ultimately dependent on enemy control are also vulnerable. For the enemy to have to attack himself in order to attack his enemy is key to paralyzing the enemy.
LibertarianMajority, about flanking and such.
Excellent observation, not sure how it would be implemented. An irregular militia wiht no clear leadership, and a number of hot headed individuals with limited reasoning skills, will not be able to take advantage of a fluid ground situation, and out flank as you sketch out.
I mention the hot-headedness, and the limited skill set for good reason, because these two characteristics epitomize the “from my cold dead hands” argument that is heard a lot on fear porn sites.
The Bunkerville Practice Session went a long way towards identifying those who can think from those who can’t. It is a small temporary win in some respects, but it is dependent on good souls within government seeing to it that despotism does not become the result.
Of course, I get a mite philosophical.
The lack of self-disciplined formation and movement will result in enemy victory. It may seem like a paradox but, for the Militia to be worthy of participation, it MUST be FOR individual liberty YET, at the same time, it must be composed of individuals who can coordinate as joint forces. World (governmental) armies do this with each other without any real supreme command–unless they want to be the slaves of whoever they do recognize as their supreme commander. The “hotheadedness” you cite is a real concern. YET, in a free State, which is what the Militia is all about defending, it is vital for every individual or larger unit to be able to break ranks (in orderly fashion) if they disagree with their position. I know that’s counter-intuitive to statist militarists but, that’s how it DOES work in a free state Militia. It remains for the “experts” to only set an example for the “novices” to voluntarily follow, and let the enemy show them who’s right. ORDERLINESS is all that measures competent Militia from the “hotheads” (“expert” or “novice”) whom you cite who’ll wast their ammunition as well as be captured or killed by the enemy. Thus, SELF-discipline is imperative for victory.
We see the enemy voting against this truth or, there being a total lack of understanding of it by those who vitally need to understand it–if they are to not be slaughtered and discredited by the enemy in the eyes of the sheepish people at the hands of the enemy’s mainstream media.
Be aware of enemy attempts to discredit the Militia by the enemy staging false-flag atrocities and such and getting their mainstream media to portray that as being “typical” of the Militia. The REAL Militia have got to be self-disciplined to avoid this depiction of them as being hooligans. Defending the “civilian” populace from the effects of the enemy’s attacks is a must for the Militia.