The Risks Are Massive: “Will Likely Lead to Famine and Civil Unrest”

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    molotovWith China’s debt now bursting at the seams and the economic outlook in the United States signaling a major recession the governments and central banks of the world are very rapidly running out of options.

    So much so that well respected Swiss asset manager Egon von Greyerz of Matterhorn Asset Management warns that they will have no choice but to ramp up monetary printing at an accelerated pace in 2014. Failure to do so will likely seize up the global flow of credit and lead to a massive financial collapse as liquidity gets sucked out of the system.

    The problem, of course, is that policy makers have backed themselves into a corner and their only remaining option will likely lead to an even more disastrous outcome; one that will have a direct impact on your long-term financial well being and quality of life.

    In the following interview with King World News von Greyerz highlights the irreversible problems faced by the economic system, risks to global stability, the likely course of action to be taken by governments, and the end result when they fail.

    The world is exposed to danger to an extent that it hasn’t been for a long time.  So the possibility that something unpleasant or unwelcome will happen is substantial.

    Paul Craig Roberts gives very interesting interviews on KWN.  According to Roberts, the risk of a world war is high.  He likens the current situation to the start of World War I.  Of course we hope that there will not be another world war, but the risks are there.

    Another major risk is, of course, the economic situation.  Never have as many major countries been bankrupt.  The list of these countries is getting longer all the time.

    Coming back to all the risks we are facing, personal savings will either be bailed in or destroyed by hyperinflation.  The same thing will happen to pensions and other investments. 

    To have a job will be a privilege in a world of mass unemployment. 

    We are already seeing this in many countries in Europe. And of course the real unemployment rate in the U.S. is 23 percent.

    All this is likely to lead to famine and civil unrest in many countries. 

    So the risks are massive and the real solutions are non-existent.

    Of course I hope I am wrong in these forecasts, but people must be aware of these risks.

    Full interview available at King World News

    In short, one way or the other we are toast.

    If they fail to print the scam is exposed for the Ponzi scheme that it is almost instantaneously as stock markets and commerce around the world crashes due to lack of stimulus.

    If they print, the can gets kicked a bit further down the road for a while longer, but eventually buckles under the weight of government debt, rising interest rates and leverage.

    The only remaining choice at that point will be asset forfeiture on a mass scale. Think Cyprus deposit confiscations on a scale of hundreds of millions of people. Either that or the currency printing hyperinflates away the debt.

    In both cases the people will take to the streets. And, they’ll be holding Molotov cocktails and assault rifles, not protest signs.

    It’s something the government has been preparing for in recent years and you should be too.

    According to Egon von Greyerz the monetary problems will cause such a disconnect in the system that asset prices are likely to sky rocket relative to their currencies:

    Gold must not be seen as a trading investment but as a long-term wealth-preservation asset.  People should just buy physical gold and hold it outside the banking system.  The gold price will be at multiples of the current price in a few years’ time.  That price could be 10 times today’s $1,300 level ($13,000), 20 times today’s level ($26,000), or even thousands of times higher in a likely hyperinflationary scenario.”

    As an asset manager von Greyerz focuses on precious metals. But the fact is that any asset of necessity will see its value skyrocket.

    The time to prepare for a general destabilization of our economic and financial systems is now. That means acquiring assets that will, at the very least, maintain their value when all else fails.

    • Dry commodities like rice, beans, grains and other foods that can last a lifetime are assets that you will use and can hold in your physical possession without “counter party risk” should paper investments collapse.
    • Productive land where you can raise your own livestock and grow your own food may drop in price during a real estate crash, but its value to you personally could be extremely important.
    • The ability to produce energy by disconnecting from the grid as costs for propane and electricity necessarily rise is another excellent “investment” to consider.
    • Learning and perfecting new trade skills (or developing “products”) that can be used as barter when traditional methods of commerce collapse will also be essential. Look no further than the underground economy of Greece following their collapse for an idea of how important this “asset” will become.
    • Firearms and ammunition. If civil unrest takes hold and law enforcement is overwhelmed, it will be used by criminal elements as an opportunity. As time progresses, crime will undoubtedly rise. Be prepared to protect what’s yours. Moreover, when was the last time you saw a downward price trend in self defense related products?
    • And, of course, precious metals with which to trade when dollars are no longer trusted should be part of any diversified prepper portfolio. We recommend first starting out with various physical silver units and working your way up to gold if financially feasible.

    Yes, the global financial, economic and political systems are under extreme stress and there is a distinct possibility that a collapse is inevitable at this point.

    But that doesn’t mean we have to be victims.

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      1. I won’t say first…

        But I will say that… we all know what is coming.

        So prep up.

        Then go on a nice picnic and make love to a beautiful woman.
        That will clear your head.

        I’m off to make love to a goddess. Preps all done.
        BTW…she found prepping sexy..as I was a man who had my shit together.
        Someone who would always be able to take care of her and her kids.
        It brought her comfort.

        Real men… or organized, plan, analyze..then get the girl.
        Any questions?

        • Good Plan

          • Even if prepared, we will

            all lose skin in that fight.

            • Mich:
              I hope I have did enough so it is my skin and not my kids or grandkids.
              N.R. N.S. N.REB

              • Look at this, Porky’s going to detonate a nuke this week:

                http://news.yahoo.com/south-korea-says-north-may-close-nuclear-test-023414647.html

                Watch for recent SHALLOW earthquake(s) in the 5 range to up to 6. One or two kilometers deep or less in North Korea. IF Porky decides to join The U.S., Russia, China, France, England, Israel, Pakistan, and India as the countries that have hydrogen bombs, the size of the earthquake generated from this test will show it. Probably something over about 5.7 or 5.8 will mean a H bomb has been tested.

                BO is going to visit South Korea this Friday, and Porky wants to show up that visit. A hydrogen bomb test would definitely do this.

                • Not sure if anyone already posted about this, but I can’t get to JWR’s site. It comes up as not available. Any one know what’s up?

                  GR

                  • i just went there and it works for me??

                  • I just tried and now it works. Weird. Maybe my computer is just squirrelly.

                    GR

                  • Here is a bit of HJL’s explanation for the site’s flapping lately:

                    “I have to confess that my personal remarks on today’s posts are somewhat limited. JWR and I are frustrated at the unreliability of our web hosts servers over the last two weeks, and I have spent much of the day importing 20,000+ posts to a new server and converting the format to a new blog format, while maintaining continuity with the original site.”

          • Ya. Good plan!
            Especially if you’re young!
            It’s better than nothing, or having your head buried in the sand like an ostrich.

            And wayyy better than helping the empire at every twist and turn as so many do.

            • It is a good plan! I am going Thurs to inspect and pick up the older used boat I bought in Dec. Am older and am prepared with some preps. I am a bit tired of the “imminent” collapse that should have already happened and am now spending some FRN’s on a hard asset. Worst case it will be a 70 gallon gas storage tank! God Bless, James

              • After reading the comments below I was a bit upset. Here is a guy who found a woman that he really loves who is also into the prepping lifestyle. How many here have that type of support male or female?
                I think it is great that he just wants to go home to his wife! Maybe there is some hope for our country after all! God Bless, James

            • And when everyone says “what are you gonna do with all that gold? Eat it?” You can say “They do in India.”

            • The banks in India import tens of tonnes of gold every year. But if individuals bring in gold, a couple of 3oz bars, then it is considered as smuggling, the gold is confiscated and the person arrested. Apparently if individuals do that, the State believes it impacts the current account deficit.

            • That’s one dude who will be able to shit a gold brick. The ladies will love him.

              • Could be painful if he shits a brick sideways.

            • The man did not believe the govt programming, “you can’t eat gold”.

        • Pu$$y is not the answer…… it’s another mouth too feed !!!!

          • Not when U eat it. Semper Fi. III

          • AND more kids!!

          • You can’t watch 24/7 and if you are a “loner” a woman and her/your kids are a great asset…. I won’t say “Pu$$y is an answer but I will say it helps…

            • yes, hopefully you have taken the time to train her, and her kids in the arts of gunning, psyops, food preparation, dish washing, food gathering, intel gathering, …well, you get the idea……MOST won’t survive alone…….

          • Do you not have enough to feed a pussy?…Sorry, had to be done.

            • I have a six year old tom cat and I have enough catfood laid up, esp since my 10 yr old cat died last mo. Mice/rats are available in the area. Men, if you take on a woman as a partner, get one w/o any “baggage”. Dogs for security and pussy cats to control rats and mice.

          • A boy and his dog. Great closing line for the book.

            • loved the ending of that movie, john.

          • Super loud Gay-Yay, Everybody!

        • I hope those are YOUR kids. Can you say “meal ticket”? 🙁

          • I hope it isnt throwing a hot dog down a hallway. 🙂

            If it isn’t, being a meal ticket might not be so bad.

            • Being a meal ticket is always bad.

              What happened to Meal Ticket #1?

              Oh right he was *insert greatly exaggerated sob story about “abuse” here*.

              You know what? When you run out of money, you get to be the next star of that sob story… as she tells it to Ticket #3…

              • Meal ticket turns into a meal worm pretty fast when the $ is gone.

        • Might be better to find a woman who has her shit together too, instead of being utterly dependent on a man to take care of her. Just saying.

          • Took the words right off my keyboard!

          • You go–Il mom.

            • She does need to bring something to the table other than…you know.

              • Hahaha. She will be so loyal when someone with more comes along….

                • ^You gals are hilarious!

          • Absolutely and I hear that miracles still happen…..

          • RE: “a woman who has her shit together”

            Things can change.
            Either pro or con.
            That’s why they have horse races.

            • “a woman who has her shit together”?….PFFT! might as well look for a fish ridin’ a bicycle. probly see one of those FIRST!

          • Damn skippy Il Mom. That is absolutely correct.

          • I’LL mom,
            Thanks for the Welcome Back note the other day.
            Much appreciated
            Take care
            — Miss Dee Dee

          • I agree: my wife is battled tested and I have seen her in a crisis and she is excellent. Look for women from cultures where women are brought up to be independent and smart. Israeli women are a good choice. Northern European women can be good. Women from Latin America and much of Asia.

            Don’t go for needy dim-wits who covet hand bags and watch reality TV all day long, no matter how good looking they may be.

            • The only woman I ever had in my life who “had her shit together AND then some” was my beloved wife and refugee from Communist Cuba. Since I lost her, I’ve had other women who couldn’t even hold a match let alone a candle to her. My wife experienced things under Castro’s rule that the sheeple of today could never understand. Frank Thoughts, you made some excellent points. the dim-wits you mentioned wouldn’t make it thru any kind of crisis. I’ve already had a few of those.

              • I would really like it if you would share some of her stories about how bad it was in Cuba that I could show to some of my stupid friends who think communism is good.

            • ive had mine for 20 years or visa versa, shes down with the struggle and ready to go down swingin, deadly with her AR out to 200 yds, pretty good at close combat with a blade, yeah I guess ill keep her,…..or visa versa

          • When SHTF, needy women with children will be a dime/dozen. A helpmate is priceless.

          • where did he say she was “utterly dependent”?…”she found prepping sexy” sounds like she might be SMART, and a prepper herself now. funny how we read all kinds of good/bad stuff into a couple sentences when we have almost NO information. i’m going with…they’re better off WITH eachother than without eachother. good luck to you ALL either way you decide to go it.

        • This past weekend I left the homestead with my wife and headed east. We drove for about six hours and ended up on top of a mountain in eastern Oregon. We camped out under the starts and satellites with a rip roaring camp fire. Hiked around the next morning looking for mushrooms and antlers then took the long way home. Eastern Oregon has some fantastic beauty. The Painted Hills and area are some of the creators best artistry.

          There’s more to life than doom and a weekend with a woman you’ve been married to for more than 35 years that still puts up with your bull shit is a good weekend. I’m one lucky man.

          • I have a wonderful wife also. Friends and family tell me I am lucky. I say that I am BLESSED.

          • Roger that, 33 years here. She’s the butter in my grits!

            • gravy on my bisquits

          • I’ve been married to my wife for just over 35 yrs and I’ve learned so much as a result of that relationship. Mostly how wrong my life’s philosophy was prior.Yeah, I can relate to how they they put up with our BS, but she simply says she loves me. How simply they can make it a solution. Her request to put our money into our home instead of outside crap made more sense. We paid off our mortgage, paid off our car and other debts. 0 debts, what a feeling at retirement age…I was actually losing money on my retirement fund anyway.It’s a long story…Any word on Wyoming’s volcanic issues??? PO patriot, Butter in your grits? Never heard that before. Anyway, sounds like we all have a pretty good life with our life choices. 🙂

          • Of course there is ‘more’ to life, if you’re some diluted boomer that is over 55 with no children that lived in the hay day job markets of the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s. Yes, you had recessions.

            However, you were not in a depression as we are now. So, keep on truck and spending the great grand kids inheritance! When boomers die in mass we should use their corpses as an energy source.

            Repugnant, selfish, snide, diluted, self righteous, narcissistic, did I miss anything?

            • Okay, I give up… why the attitude? Did I miss something?

        • Yeah, I have a question. Is the cubicle big enough for the both of you?

          • Hey Southron, I know your comment wasn’t directed at my post but to answer your question, yes the cubical was big enough. Let me explain, when we go for a quick camp we sleep in the back of our truck, that is if we don’t bring the dogs, this past weekend we didn’t bring the dogs so the back of the pickup was a big enough cubicle. I did not red thumb you.

        • Yeah right. Wait till it does hit, those will be a dime a dozen. Whores run amok all over the place. You will have realized that you paid too high a price. Your better off with a fat girl who knows how to cook outdoors and knows how to hunt and kill. As far as prepping it doesn’t mean shit, or that you will outlive everyone or that your chances are better. You might actually just have a whole lot of shit piled up and your place might get raided and you loose it all including your life. Your better off being able to move when you have to, and your better off moving fast and silently without a bunch of kids crying about food and comfort. They will be a hindrance if you don’t find a group to help you with your kids. Your better off with other people who have kids that way you can help each other. You will most likely have to share that Goddess with some of the other bigger stronger men who are actually protecting you, don’t get jealous just let it happen, it will ensure your own survival. Sorry, but you will have to use her that way. Just don’t let her know right now. Let her think your the shit for the time being. Just know inside that the day will come where she and her kids might have to be pawns in your own strategy of survival. Stay alive that’s the name of the game.

          • Somehow, I can’t imagine my husband feeling this way. Of course, I’m not a cute little prepper anymore. We, also, have been married thirty-five years, but I try to make up for lack of youth with experience and the fact I love him. We still two teens at home, but both are proficient in what needs to be done and I hope they will be an asset. It’s possible, and maddening, that all we have stocked will be taken from us, but right now, we’re as prepared as we can afford to be and I just spent the April budget on preps for colloidal silver and face masks, plus essential oils for sanitation. (See SHTF Plan column on Ebola, etc.) Pretty scary times right now and in the foreseeable future. No psychotropic drugs around, so we’re trying to cope as best we can. Good luck to all of you. (Spent February and March prep money on heirloom seeds and chemical fertilizer plus peat moss for our clay soil while we can still get it. Budgeted another five dollars for more earthworms which seem like a good idea.

            • Vicky… I hope one day to be as lucky as your husband obviously is.

              You did everything right and then some. It’s rare these days… well… beh it could be because I’m in Los Angeles… and well that pretty much speaks for itself, regarding my levels of frustration with this topic.

            • get gypsum for your clay soil, spread it on top and fork it in.

            • vicky, you might not be a “cute little prepper girl” anymore to us, but i betcha you are to HIM! you are lucky to have eachother!

          • Why do I get the feeling that you are a real winner and a prize that women chase after. Too funny.

          • Lots of guys will be pissed when their honeys betray them, as women have a habit of doing.

            • Beulla, well at least you’re honest. It’s women like you that have reaffirmed my desire to remain single and jerk-off. I am comforted with the fact that I’ll never let myself down, no one will steal my stuff and I won’t have to take care of little tax-deductions.

          • Wow! Anonymous you have obviously never met a God fearing woman. My first wife was not. (We were not equally yoked) but thanks be to God, I’ve been married to one for the past 18 years. I love her and would die for her, as would she for me. I would also lay down my life for those “Crying hungry kids” that you would so casually discard. Love and loyalty are very high on my “Must have” prepper list. I would highly recommend that they be on yours.

          • that’s ONE way to look at it anonymouse. staying fast and silent will get you dead too, if you don’t have assets, i really think our survival rate will be low. once put out of your comfort zone, we are dead men walking, in most cases. sure, SOME can survive that, but not most…i take comfort knowing i have preps galore… i DO agree with a lot said about not being able to hold onto your woman. there WILL BE brutality on a massive scale, i fear….by all means, teach all around you to defend themselves and your compound. make sure they know how to shoot EVERY gun you own….and then some! my wife is oblivious to all this stuff and has forbidden me to talk to her “friends” about it….don’t “scare them”, she says. show me a person that doesn’t believe it’s about to hit the fan, and i’ll show you a dolt that doesn’t know how to READ! to bad, it didn’t have to be this way, america(ns). at least when it does hit the fan, the poor simp can shoot and provide some shuteye time for me without worrying about our compound getting overrun….and MAYBE i can trade her kids for a couple cases of chilli con carne, or a five gallon bottle of water…..just kidding on that last sentence!….wait, what are you looking at me like that for?…..uh ohhh, she’s right behind me, isn’t she?…..

        • Speaking as a 25 year old woman prepper–if you don’t have your act together and have a grounded understanding of what it really takes to not only survive but thrive and carry on the arts of civilization, then you’re just a geek for survivalist G.I. Joe nonsense in my eyes.

          You want to land a pretty little prepper lady?

          Have an independent food supply. I’m not just talking stockpiled MREs. Get yourself educated in basic homesteading and farming. Save seed and educate yourself on the value of non-GMO, open pollinated, non-hybrid, Fukushima-free seeds that have been grown and developed in your micro-climate. I’m not saying you need to be a farmer–hopefully folks in your community will take full advantage of division of labor according to skill and share the benefits through barter and trade. But if you don’t understand the value of the work of the auxiliary, you’d better buckle down and learn. RockyMountainCorndotcom is a good place to start.

          • Chief, with age comes experience, 99.9% of 25 year olds just don’t have the benefit of time to be experienced. I have a time line for experience and it goes something like this.

            1) You don’t know anything
            2) You learn enough to be dangerous
            3) You think you know it all
            4) You’ve learned enough to know how little you know and now you’re ready to learn
            5) You are now a journeyman
            6) You are now good at your endeavor or profession
            7) You are a master
            8) You are comfortable in your own skin and you have nothing to prove.
            9) I’ll let you know when I get there

            • We’re at number six and working toward number seven. My husband’s closer than I, although I’ve finally mastered torillas, including the ash water bath to make corn sufficiently nutritious to ward off pellegra. I THINK we can grow enough corn for us, assuming we can keep it, that this basic will be there for us. Tortillas, rice and beans; plus tortillas as a holder for chicken or venison stew, topped off with canned chili sauce picante. I actually managed to can a few half pints of bacon drippings after lots of tries. We season everything with bacon, no matter what Mooch Obama says. Any bets on how long we can keep our chickens and our well without the damn government confiscating them?

              • When it comes to homesteading I’m a #4, I make so many mistakes it’s not funny but I keep trying.

                • Rick, I LOVE your humility and attitude. I am someone with a “little bit” of wisdom. I would bet my life on someone like you rather than some cocky, but soon to be dead man-boy who is only on number 2 or 3 of your list. We need to keep a cool head and remember the goal….Survive and thrive in spite of the times. God bless and keep on prepping.

                  • Rick,it is from our mistakes that we learn the right way,nothing in life I have attempted worked great first go around excepting a few rare occasions that I cherish!The great thing is if you think you learn from errors(if not a fatal error!)and thus get it right down the road!

                  • yes warchild…like my dad used to say “what doesn’t kill us makes us stronger”…..until the accident!

              • Actually, I have written about this before but the social relations in a crisis society do not break down into 7 women chasing one hee-man.

                Instead, a crisis society tends to fracture as follows:

                1) Break down men: These are the guys who needed the 9 to 5 job to give them meaning and order to their lives. They tended to be working for a pension and probably never really liked their job. These guys tend to mentally collapse and turn to drink/drugs or basically commit slow suicide as they fall apart. Few make it past their late 40s.

                2) Opportunist guys: These men can be scum bags but they see opportunity in the crisis. They tend to be the guys who become traders, pimps, run the local bars, peddle weapons, porn, food etc. They tend to thrive in a crisis. And they get women.

                3) Alpha dudes: Not many in this category just because when you get a handful of them, they tend to start killing each other off until there is a truce and they settle down to be the oligarchs of the society. These guys get the prettiest, hottest women and they have the most money and power.

                4) Bitches guys: They work for the opportunists and the alphas and do what they are told and keep quiet. They survive and some even thrive, but they know the deal is to go along with whomever is in power.

                5) Pretty and young women: They are prized and if smart they do very well hooking up with the alphas and the opportunists. If they are dumb, then they will be exploited in the sex trade.

                6) Middle aged women: Tough old birds: They tend to set up small shops, work the market stalls, basically keep everything going. They do well and survive: some even thrive and become alpha females. They want nothing to do with break down men and are generally ‘past it’ when it comes to being of interest to alphas and opportunists. Lesbianism rises amongst this group.

            • Way too many #2’s in congress! Reed and gang?

          • Chief ,
            The value of an auxiliary will be worth its weight in gold in the coming festivities.
            What has happened before will happen again, there is nothing new under the sun.

            We still tend to think in current terms of what life will be like post SHTF.
            Most likely the rural areas will be the only areas that survive , the cities will become untenable and will collapse into the worst hell imaginable. What ever is left of the government and military will be consumed by the civil unrest in urban areas.

            The financial system will be a thing of the past along with the power grid and modern conveniences.

            What life will resemble in the rural areas once things stabilize ( aprox . 6 months post collapse) will be a mixture of what life was like on the frontier in the old west with a simpler lifestyle,
            more resembling an Amish community than modern suburbia and it will be self contained with its own means of food production , commerce and defense like the city states of the renaissance .
            Self suffiency and the means to protect it will be the number one priority. A local government BASED on the origional constitution and bill of rights will,assure survival of our way of life .
            It will be like the old west with modern armaments and what is left of our surviving technology.

            Most of the fring elements of society that created the collapse ( political elites , free sh**t army )
            will perish in their own self fulfilling hell they brought upon themselves , their end will resemble something out of the old Testiment ,judgement will not be pretty. The reset will take generations.

            We as a people will have learned a valuable lesson , NEVER let anyone take away your LIBERTY , never allow others to take away your right of self determination and never ever allow others to think for you .

            RESIST

            THE FUTURE IS COMING WHAT YOU DO WITH IT IS WHAT COUNTS

            III%

            Semper Fi 8541

            • I like your scenario! I study societies and generally categorize them into high-trust and low-trust societies. High-trust societies can weather some unbelievable sh#t. Think of Japan in the tsunami. Or Iceland in the global economic crisis. While people were pissed with the government, they nonetheless bonded together and got to work sorting out the problem.

              Now, I shall move to low-trust societies. Think the United Kingdom and the Good Ole US of A. Both of these steaming s-holes of supposed free market liberty are also highly fractured societies with little ability to weather crisis without going ape. Just small triggers can unleash, at times, days of rioting. Now imagine if something really serious actually happened?

              The UK already had a taster of it in 2011, with civic order breaking down in the cities across the country for over four days. The police backed off and let many places just go to hell and burn. Many unfortunates found themselves in their flats as the shops below were set on fire. The death toll could have easily reached hundreds. The British police invented a new dance – the backwards f#got hop – whenever you encounter rioting youths, hop backwards out of there while waving your billy club.

              I agree with you: the cities will crumble quickly and the government will just let them go and retreat back to the armed redoubts where the military will be the protection. Watch World War Z for a good mock-up of what will happen: there are only so many soldiers out there and they will pull back to protect the essential places and the powerful. The rest will just be a high def video on a drone of people doing a Lord of the Flies.

        • The bible says in the latter days 7 women will chase 1 man. I take that to mean it will get very bad and the women, who are so independent now because of the last 50 years being so easy for women to survive without the protection of a man, will be forced to look to a real man (Not the other 6 wimps) once again for protection and survival.

          • Then again they may have BBQ in mind and one will feed seven. You never know.

          • …in your dreams…

          • Hey mark—mark, wake up! Wake up buddy, you’re droolin’ on yer pillow…

            • Touche’

          • I took it as most of the men were killed in battles of some kind, so the women were desperate for someone to support them. I’m in a position now,that if I lost my dear hubby, I should be ok….not overflowing, but ok, and that’s fine with me. I’m not beautiful, but my skill sets are amazing….;)

            • 🙂

          • What? That already happens in Los Angeles.

            80% of women going for the “top” 20% of guys… Doctors Lawyers Movie Producers whatever. Ok, not all women, but the women that don’t… 9 times out of 10 are not native to here.

            And sport-effing all the druggie guys on the side…

          • There are only 3 reasons 7 women will chase 1 man: 1) Greater percentage than “normal” of males are gay. 2) There are no righteous men. 3) Most men are dead.

            • Could be crazy govt demanding all unmarried women ‘entertain’ the troops.

              • ahhhh, the fantasies of the youthful and not so youthful.

            • maybe they just need a babysitter, or their lawns mowed…

            • Clearly you’ve never heard of the concept of Hypergamy.

              Google it.

              It’s a way of life in Los Angeles.

              The model of male bad behavior is polygamy. The model of female bad behavior is hypergamy. Interestingly, the two tend to re-enforce each other.

              Hypergamy is many women only being attracted to a very very few ultra-rich or ultra-powerful guys. Nevermind said guys already have 12 other women all over them. Doesn’t really matter to her.

              Polygamy / Hypergamy is sort of the mating rules in Hell, more or less.

        • Cubicle Dweller,

          It looks like at the time of my writing, you have 8 weenie metrosexual obamaniac votes as well as a bunch of real people votes.
          You certainly have my up vote !

        • Yeppim Cubicle dweller.

          Great article Mac. Nothing most of us didn’t know already but it sums up the picture quite clearly.

          The S is going to HTF anytime now and there is nothing anyone can do to change it. As I have said for the last year the shit is going to hit the fan, the fan has been turned on for some time and the shit is already being fed into it. Only thing you can do now is cover your bases now and ride it out the birth of a new day. As in all births there will be a lot of screaming and some blood lost but it will be worth it.

          Hopefully it will not take too long to run the course and a new US of A will be reborn. Probably not in any manner we can now envision. But you can be assured there will be a return to our Christian roots which means morals and ethics will once again govern the way in which we each conduct ourselves.

          BigB

        • CD, I’d better stick with prepping and forget about the “beautiful woman” bit! Doc told me last week that if my testosterone level dropped any lower, he would have to refer me to a gynecologist; made me so damn mad! A lovely plan though.

          • @aurelius..i share your pain…..last week when I WENT to the doctor, he told me i had to stop masturbating. i said “why”, and he said “so i can finish the examination”!!

        • Absolutely works for me. My wife and daughter[lives with us now]understand that preparation gives us an advantage.Our neighbor is a stealth prepper,so is our Police Chief. Yeah, I know their are cop haters in here but not this guy.I follow the philosophy of “keep your friends close, your enemies closer”. The appearance of non-threat [trust] learns information…This very type of thinking cost us dearly in Nam because we trusted some people we shouldn’t have. So I’m learning from that mistake and applying it now. Note: I got the girl first 🙂

        • Dweller,one ?,does she have any cute sisters,Holly thinks I am nuts for planning but guess where she will show up if things go south!

        • Ok TMI

        • I see what you did there 😉

      2. Mac
        “Yes, the global financial, economic and political systems are under extreme stress and there is a distinct possibility that a collapse is inevitable at this point.
        But that doesn’t mean we have to be victims.”

        Given all your articles over the years from all perspectives..
        rest assured..
        those of us who took heed will never be victims..

        We are ready for the fight..

        possee

        • “Given all your articles over the years”…..

          and years…
          and years….
          and years…..
          and years……

          OF FEAR MONGERING!!

          for Christ’s sake I been prepping for almost a flucking decade and have so much crap now can’t fit another box in my apartment.

          So I say — LET IT RIP! BRING IT ON!
          I want CHAOS, AND MAYHEM AND PEOPLE RUNNING AMOK IN THE STREETS!

          • Marc–just keep organizing and rearranging.
            It works for me!

          • You want chaos, mayhem and people running in the streets? Heck I don’t. I would be happy if i and my children lived out their days in peace. Also I know that some people can easily sit in judgment of those sheeple out there, but I just can’t bring myself to do so. I remember that I was one of them at one point in time. It was the kind warnings from a prepper that sounded off the alarm in my head, not the smug, self congratulatory attitude that I read too much here at times.

          • Dogs and Cats living together? Mass hysteria?

          • Marc: patience Grasshopper, it’s happening, just at a slower pace than most folks were expecting. Lots of small and medium cracks are slowly shifting the entire foundation, kind of like the sinkholes here in Florida. Then one day, the whole just opens up and all hell breaks loose. But it’ s often a long process, out of view. So relax, it’s coming.

          • Marc.

            What a day it will be when the EBT cards stop and the ATM’s shut down. I look forward when the Police say, “You’re on you own”. You know what type of people you will have to deal with.

            It has been long in the tooth as I have also prepped for many years. Lots of survival education. Thought it would have happened before now, but that is what I get for thinking.
            I am not looking to start it for I know they will bring it on themselves. They just need to stay the hell away from me for I am not going to put up with anyone’s shit.

          • Send unwanted preps to me. 🙂

        • I have faith in us, too, and faith in Psalms 91. You’ve tried hard, Mac, and I think you’ve done a good job.

      3. When this thing blows, NO Nation will be safe. Feudalistic oppression could take hold around the world. That’s if some nut job in the US govt decides to set off a Nuke.

          • I “told you so” folks, a couple weeks ago that China was looking into the abyss and that any failure by China to accept USD would kill their economy. They are part and parcel of the NWO now, whether they like it or not, and the CCP likes it.

            The FED was reigning in OUR economy to smother theirs, forcing the Chinese to allocate that 1.2 trillion in USD to infrastructure development internally, and raise the value of the Yuan.

            If you think the Chinese are invading Nevada, you ain’t seen nothing yet. Print your tourist brochures in Mandarin, and weave those straw hats out of hemp.

            You will make a killing if YOU are willing to accept dollars! 🙂

            • Good, Moochele can pull my rickshaw. It’ll be the second time that she has been proud.

            • Brochures in madarin,no thanks.I do suppose though chinese invade will add a whole new meaning to the phrase”chinese takeout”!

          • I’d say those people have had enough. I can envision catching a few congressmen on their way to lunch…

          • Speaking of China and ‘unrest’…

            Furious Chinese Rioters Beat Corrupt Policemen To Death
            (from ZeroHedge site)

            It appears, based on these extremely graphic images, that the Chinese people has a different way of dealing with corrupt officials. As Shanghaiist reports, a riot involving around 1,000 people broke out last Saturday in Cangnan county of Wenzhou city, Zhejiang province, resulting in the hospitalization of five chengguan, China’s notoriously abusive and under-regulated urban enforcement officials.

            The alleged cause for the riots was the five’s brutally killing a civilian. According to reports, the chengguan “hit the man with a hammer until he started to vomit blood, because he was trying to take pictures of their violence towards a woman, a street vendor.” This man later died while being rushed to the hospital. Given the following images of civilian retribution; is it any wonder, the powers that be in China fear social unrest?

            ALL of the corrupt, evil, sickos that includes politicians, LEOS and anyone else who thinks they are in a ‘position of power’…your reign is soon coming to a violent end.

        • It won’t take a Nuke to set off the worldwide collapse and feudalistic oppression.

          The supply chain for refined crude is being run to the max. A few refineries get blown up and shut down and we could easily see the price of gas and diesel double within days.

          The rationing and CODB would double and triple the unemployment rate and, the cost of food, in no time.

          Think about it folks. I’m sure most of us have and that’s why we prep.

          Imagine all the ignorant fools that haven’t.

          • It is actually mind boggling how many people think Costco and Wallmart will always be there, and even worse yet how many think their jobs will be immune to any sort of catastrophe.
            Especially government yahoos, if everything comes unglued the plan is to shut everything off and lay low, sure as hell not going to try and shop for anything, if i dont already have it, will learn to live without it

            • The crazy part is that each Nation has a vulnerability that can take it down. If the crazies decide they want M.A.D. then they can either achieve it with Nukes or collapse each others economies.

              • we can disable 100 ppl in a minute as long as the mags keep coming semi-auto of course

            • There are multiple indicators of economic collapse.

              Rising food prices may be the factor that brings this situation to a head.

              The Real Inflation Fear – US Food Prices Are Up 19% In 2014
              http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-26/real-inflation-fear-us-food-prices-are-19-2014

              What can we do?
              1.Plant a garden.
              2.Support local farmers.
              3.Use and/or preserve in season produce (can, dehydrate, etc.)

              15 Reasons Why Your Food Prices Are About To Start Soaring

              “Did you know that the U.S. state that produces the most vegetables is going through the worst drought it has ever experienced and that the size of the total U.S. cattle herd is now the smallest that it has been since 1951?”

              “Extremely unusual weather patterns are playing havoc with crops all over the planet right now.”
              http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-17/15-reasons-why-your-food-prices-are-about-start-soaring

                • I hope those people/officials who shut off the water in Cali like smelt…

                  Seriously, does anyone really believe the attacks on our food supply are coincidental? Destroying cattle ranches, agricultural farms and fish hatcheries and deep sea fishing, all simultaneously?

                  • love to have a brew with you sixpack 🙂

            • And for all the people who think you need toilet paper to survive let me tell you from living 3 years in Iraq. You only need a water bottle. Just dont shake hands as much!

              • Okay, I knew about the Arabs and the “unclean” left hand…but you gave me new insight into cultures who just don’t shake hands and why.

            • When Sears and JC Penny’s went down Costco and Walmart bloomed.

              Caveat:
              I’ve never stepped foot into a Walmart, Walmart in my mind is a symbol of the offshoring outsourcing business model that has so negatively effected my occupational field of manufacturing that to go into one of their stores, to me is tantamount to treason.

              They are a symbol not the cause.

              • RiO,

                No! No! Rick! Haven’t you watched the commercials?! They always try to buy American if they can. Right! Sure! If you find something made in America withing the aisle at Wal-Mart, please let me know.

                They buy like every other corporation does: so that it increases their profit margin. To a corporation (a legal process, btw, that takes the inherent accountability of humans and dissipates it) there is only profit margins. Cheap labor and cheap resources and low purchase prices of wholesale goods is like meth to a corporation.

                What happens when you take men and give them power with no accountability? Is there a better way to demonstrate “evil” than that? Probably not. This is what a corporation is. Its a fiction that fools you into believing it is real and then uses that belief against you to screw you to the wall. The whole idea of the corporation is so that wealthy people can ignore Common Law. The idea of a corporation is to beligerent to Common Law, that about the only thing they have in common is the first letter!

                The corporation, because it is a fiction, is both real and not real. Real when it needs to influence and drive people into buying their products and services but not real when people get screwed, injured, murdered or conned. Everything corporations stand for is bad.

                …and now, the government is incorporated. Oh, yeah. Read the Columbia Act of 1871 and others. We don’t really have a government. Oh, they fool you into thinking we do because they call all the corporate employees by the same name as they did when they were government employees. Their hiring process is similar in that The People appear to have a voice. But, regardless, the appearance is all fake. No, you’ve been ruled by a corporation for over 140 years. I think its time for a corporate takeover!

                • I see stuff made in America in Walmart’s aisles all the time. They’re called “Anchor Babies”…

                • NetRanger:

                  You are another breath of fresh air here at shtf. You are not afraid to tackle the “untouchable” subjects. You know, who and what is REALLY bringing about the demise of the US.

                  The Columbia Act of 1871 should be priority #1 reading to shtf posters. Suddenly you will understand what the plundering and lawlessness of all involved in DC is all about. We (the people of the US) have no ability to control what goes on there, the City of London controls it all! Look up: jubilee 2012 dot 50web dot com the hidden empire. You just might learn something new. I certainly did.

                  Because DK claims to know about laws I am eager to hear his opinion of the Columbia Act of 1871. Anyone else who has information on this Act, please chime in.

                  And once again the athiest are sueing a school district over using UNDER GOD in the pledge of allegiance. The SCUM in our country will never rest until all traces of Christianity have been erased from memory.

                  The truthers on shtf are beginning to shed real light on just what is and has happened to the country that we love. Even articles about the establishment of Masonic Lodges and their true purpose at their highest level are beginning to be exposed. I know there are great people who belong to this lodge, they are being duped and used. Study the truth behind this organization.

                  • “The SCUM in our country will never rest until all traces of Christianity have been erased from memory”

                    Looks like they’re in for a long night…

            • I have two daughters-in-law who feel this way, and are now planning a cruise for their family and children. They don’t have so much as a jar of peanut butter put away. I’ve talked, my husband has talked and while we have the boys somewhat convinced, they’re going to have to grow a spine to take over and save their families. Can you imagine the SHTF while on a cruise ship!

              • Vicky,

                Funny you should bring that up. For the longest time I traveled on my job and for fun. I never worried about anything except maybe the plane crashing or the animals that were left at home not being cared for properly. Since Obama I worry about a SHTF every time I travel. Hope and Change my ass.

              • Kinda hard to grow a spine when said step daughters can leave them on a whim and take over 50% of their earnings in perpetuity. Ain’t the “nuclear option” just great?

                This right here has got to get fixed somehow. The only “spine” a male can grow at the present moment in history is not to get married to begin with…

          • Yesterday, Zero Hedge posted an article showing how vulnerable China is by an attack to it’s shipping lane where it gets it’s oil from Saudi Arabia. It could literally shutdown China within 30 days. The same could happen to us by taking down the power grid.

        • Plenty of them.

      4. Asset forfeiture in the USA? LMAO! That’s what QE is all about, so no need to steal directly from individual bank accounts.

        “To have a job will be a privilege in a world of mass unemployment.”

        Make your own, or buy some cows and run your herd on Taxpayer forge. Its FREE! And taxes??? We don’t need to pay no fucking taxes!!! 🙂

        • Moving in with parents becomes more common for the middle-aged

          “At a time when the still sluggish economy has sent a flood of jobless young adults back home, older people are quietly moving in with their parents at twice the rate of their younger counterparts.

          For seven years through 2012, the number of Californians aged 50 to 64 who live in their parents’ homes swelled 67.6% to about 194,000, according to the UCLA Center for Health Policy Research and the Insight Center for Community Economic Development.

          The jump is almost exclusively the result of financial hardship caused by the recession rather than for other reasons, such as the need to care for aging parents…”

          “The numbers are pretty amazing,” Wallace said. “It’s an age group that you normally think of as pretty financially stable. They’re mid-career. They may be thinking ahead toward retirement. They’ve got a nest egg going. And then all of a sudden you see this huge push back into their parents’ homes.”

          “Many more young adults live with their parents than those in their 50s and early 60s live with theirs. Among 18- to 29-year-olds, 1.6 million Californians have taken up residence in their childhood bedrooms, according to the data.

          Though that’s a 33% jump from 2006, the pace is half that of the 50 to 64 age group.”
          http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-adults-in-parents-home-20140421,0,2293806.story#ixzz2zXcacB4r

          • I read this earlier and found it scary on several levels. While we still live in our original house, with five bedrooms and three currently working bathrooms (we had six kids)the house is not big enough for all the kids to come home with their kids. I don’t want all of the bickering and I don’t want two of the daughters-in-law, and even though our kids know how to work and could be a big help, it’s going to be nasty trying to get everyone to co-operate and do his/her share. My husband and I are too old to wait on them, which we didn’t while they were at home, but “adult” kids are hard to manage, especially after I wallop some of our more bratty grandchildren. Help!

            • …only in a dire emergency would I go for that arrangement…

              • Welcome to what those South of the Border have always known and had to do.

                Personally I think it’s the one and only thing they ever got right. Can you imagine the cost savings?

                Yes, our culture is not set up to deal with it without personal friction. I suggest we adopt a new set of sensibilities then.

            • Change the locks on your house. Your sanity will be needed to keep you and your husband alive and well…

              • y’all know, god kills a baby kitten whenever you let someone move back into your house when they are over 25…right?

            • Just go out and pick up some of the old “The Waltons” dvd’s and enjoy.

            • Vicky, I understand it’s your decision to make, but if you do so, I would lay down the law to the daughters-in-law and make it clear that they either do their part to help out or move on down the line. same goes for the grandchildren. they have to start learning responsibility at some point.

            • Vicky.

              Take in what you can manage and the ones you feel are agreeable with YOUR LAWS of the HOUSE.

              There are laws that say if you invite them in to YOUR HOME and they pay rent or change their mailing address to YOUR Home they have legal rights to STAY THERE. Eviction may be a bitch should you need to do it.

              • “There are laws that say if you invite them in to YOUR HOME and they pay rent or change their mailing address to YOUR Home they have legal rights to STAY THERE. Eviction may be a bitch should you need to do it.”

                In what state(s)?

                • Oregon, for one. I went through that mistake back in 2006. In that case, it was just a couple who were originally invited over Christmas/New Year holidays. They had lost their house and were living in a tent, in the snow, in trees behind a warehouse.

                  They decided to stay and dug in. It is not only in Oregon. Our ORS Chapter 90, is derived from the federal Landlord And Tenant Act. The definitions of “tenancy” are federally defined and affect all states. The States can have different procedures, but must adhere to federal laws.

                  We learned the hard way.

                  We had to get a court order and a sheriff to get them out. The damages they left to their room was stunning, and the overall costs, including mental/emotional and legal fees was not worth the attempt to be kind to friends who were “down on their luck.”

                  I’ll never do that again.

                  I’m better off without those kinds of ‘friends’…

            • Vicky: My solution to everyone filling up the house like it is thanksgiving everyday is convert portions of the barn into small living areas. We would still have to share some common areas but I have a tack room, break room and a shop out in the barn that could be converted to large bedrooms or small living spaces. I know there is holes in that plan but at least it provides some kind of privacy for people.

            • @ Vicky
              your house, your rules. they won’t like it, show them the door, it swings out just fine. your sons will grow a spine, and so will you. the house is plenty big, not much work needs to be done inside, just sleep and food preps. as for the grandkids, they will learn quickly with no television telling them what they need, and their hands getting a little dirty instead. good luck.

            • Vicky,
              It appears you already know the outcome of this cluster “F” of a situation you are settling yourself into. Use all the knowledge and wisdom your parents instilled to you. Use the common sense your motherly intution demands and
              have the parental fortitude to step back and let your offspring pay the price or reap the rewards of adulthood. But in reality you should probably not pay any attention to me because I’m still passed off about the video Mac posted about the GIMME GIRLS on the last article.
              Take Care.
              I trust you will do the right thing for your family
              — Miss Dee Dee

            • Vicky, Time to build a “storage shed/workshop”.Big enough for a bedroom and a couple easy chairs with a sink and toilet. Wood stove or fireplace with cooking potential. If they all come home, give them the house and retreat to your own private living space.

            • It’s your house, if you decide to let them in, you set the rules, and you do it before they step foot in your house. It’s your way, or out.

            • Vicky, I understand where you are coming from. Hopefully the only one of my children coming home with be my daughter, her fiance’, and her grown son. They have their own preps and skills that we need. They are also hard workers, good marksmen, etc. Now if the kids make it from across the country, that’s another story.

          • Oh don’t underestimate “caring for aging parents”. That shit is stupid expensive. That would suck down 2/3 of the average median income of an American family, just for ONE parent! That’s if you hired it out…

        • Ah, speaking of The defender of the empire,… I noticed this bit:

          “once a territory becomes a state, the Fed must surrender all claims to the land as if it were still just a possession or territory.

          Sorry, but to all the left-wing commentators who call Bundy a tax-cheat and an outlaw, be careful of what you speak for the Supreme Court has made it clear in 1845 that the Constitution forbids the federal rangers to be out there to begin with for the Feds could not retain ownership of the territory and simultaneously grant state sovereignty. At the very minimum, it became state land – not federal.”

          Eat that, empire lover!

          • Link:

            Martin Armstrong Asks “Do The Feds Really Own The Land In Nevada?”

            http://www.infowars.com/martin-armstrong-asks-do-the-feds-really-own-the-land-in-nevada/

            Oh, this too, if you’re inclined to follow the CONstitution and can handle clicking a link:

            US land claims in Bundy case based on lie-started, treaty-violating, unlawful war on Mexico

            http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/04/us-land-claims-bundy-case-based-lie-started-treaty-violating-unlawful-war-mexico.html

            And, one more bit, I found what seems to be a worthy, ‘Captain America’, quite the opposite of our very our Dur ango ‘Krugman’ Kidd:

            Special Forces Master Sergeant on the Military

            http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/special-forces-master-sergeant-on-the-military/

            Some guys are closer to the measuring stick when Marine Corp General Smedly Butler is at the top, this guy comes pretty dog-gone close. I only wish others in service to The empire could aspire to obtain half as much knowledge and wisdom.

            • AG/Clark: I read Armstrong’s article earlier today. He is a great economist, but not much of a lawyer. His background on the State of Nevada is very good, and interesting reading.

              Still his own words tell the story:

              “The votes at the end of the day demonstrate that they never needed Nevada. Nonetheless, within the provisions of the Statehood Act of March 21, 1864 that brought Nevada into the voting fold, we see the source of the problem today.

              This Statehood Act retained the ownership of the land as a territory for the federal government. In return for the Statehood that was really against the law, the new state surrendered any right, title, or claim to the unappropriated public lands lying within Nevada.

              Moreover, this cannot be altered without the consent of the Feds. Hence, the people of Nevada cannot claim any land whatsoever because politicians needed Nevada for the 1864 election but did not want to hand-over anything in return. This was a typical political one-sided deal. ”

              Political one-sided deal or not, 74% of the land in Nevada belong to the American Taxpayer. Those that desire these lands be returned to the respective State should understand that the corporations will gobble them up forever, and make them,PRIVATE, as corporations have a perpetual life. No hunting, no fishing, no mining, no forests, except by the owner; who is likely to be a multinational corporation.

              If you want to push for these lands to be returned to the State, understand what you wish for. 🙁

              • AG/Clark: ” …. the new state surrendered any right, title, or claim to the unappropriated public lands lying within Nevada. ”

                So currently, the lands that exist in Nevada that are not private land, or State Land, belong to the federal government on behalf of the American taxpayer, according to the Nevada Statehood Act.

                It doesn’t get any more “constitutional” than that. Wrong again!!! LMAO!!! 🙂

              • Re:”74% of the land in Nevada belong to the American Taxpayer.”

                Ah, you mean it belongs to the oligarchy of which you defend. It certainly doesn’t belong to any The People.
                To whom do you think those No Trespassing signs posted on so-called ‘public property’ apply to?

                Finally, you show you cards here, you’re against States rights.

                I guess that makes you: Durango ‘Krugman’ Kid Uber-Federalist/Loyalist.

                And just How are you different from the bastards that claim to own us all?

                Oh I see, you’re just upset that team B isn’t in charge vs. team A. …. Typical.

                • @Average Guy

                  Make that Durango ‘Krugman’ Kid Uber-Federalist/Loyalist/FASCIST.

                  BTW… Hey DK, when are you gonna grace us with your non-presence? You know, the one you keep talking about.

                  • somebody said here that DK has a new job rewinding videos at a video store…quite a promotion up from painting numbers on curbs, i must say. y’all know when the “kid” was 14 he was hired to inseminate the pigs at a pigfarm, but it wasn’t until he was 16 that he found out there was a MACHINE to do that FOR him.

                • Durango Kidd = government troll

                  • Walt: I personally don’t think he is a gov’t troll. But I do think that with his personality type the absolute worst thing that can happen to him on this board is to make him irrelevant and insignificant to conversations like Netranger suggests in a post further down. He loves to argue whether he is right or wrong for the sake that he feels superior at that point and that is what he thrives on.
                    Just go back a few weeks to that Brandon article and read the back and forth between him and Brandon about the dollar.
                    The interesting thing about all this is that 2 articles here did him in. All because he couldn’t not argue and accept that there could be an opinion that he didn’t share.

                  • @RS

                    The durango kidd believes his intellect to be superior to all others on this site.

                    It’s the same with those who control government. They know better, and what’s best for you.

                    He once commented to me, that if he found himself sharing a bunker with “people like me,” (libertarians) he would shoot us in the head.

                    Shoot me in the head because I find his “political” arrangement repulsive, and would choose not to live under it.

                    That’s exactly how government operates. It will shoot you in the head if you dare choose to exercise your natural right to self determination.

                    The durango kidd is no patriot. The durango kidd is a fascist.

                  • Walt: I’ll be darned. I thought troll meant something else. Looked it up and you are right.
                    Thanks but I really wish I didn’t know that definition. But thanks anyway.

                  • hold on now, I used to”Fly Horses” when I was a youth (putting “Spanish fly” on the male horse’s member)after the first go round I hired a fat kid (one that ran slower than I) to assist they would hump anything in sight. got paid 100 bux a horse worst 10 bux the fat kid earned LOL

              • The durango kidd says:

                “Still his own words tell the story:”

                LOL… yeah they do, but you failed to mention Armstrong’s conclusion!

                U.S. Supreme Court
                Pollard’s Lessee v. Hagan, 44 U.S. 3 How. 212 212 (1845)
                Pollard’s Lessee v. Hagan
                44 U.S. (3 How.) 212

                “The Pollard decision expressed a statement of constitutional law in dictum making it very clear that the Feds have no claim over the lands in Nevada. The Supreme Court states:”

                “The United States never held any municipal sovereignty, jurisdiction, or right of soil in and to the territory of which Alabama, or any of the new States, were formed, except for temporary purposes, and to execute the trusts created by the acts of the Virginia and Georgia legislatures, and the deeds of cession executed by them to the United States, and the trust created by the treaty of the 30th April, 1803, with the French Republic ceding Louisiana.”

                “So in other words, once a territory becomes a state, the Fed must surrender all claims to the land as if it were still just a possession or territory.”

                “Sorry, but to all the left-wing (and right-wing) commentators who call Bundy a tax-cheat and an outlaw, be careful of what you speak for the Supreme Court has made it clear in 1845 that the Constitution forbids the federal rangers to be out there to begin with for the Feds could not retain ownership of the territory and simultaneously grant state sovereignty. At the very minimum, it became state land – not federal.” (emphasis mine)

                Check your premise DK, because it’s false.

                “Those that desire these lands be returned to the respective State should understand that the corporations will gobble them up forever.”

                Fear monger much DK? It doesn’t have to go that way and you know it! The States can set their own lands in trust.

                As one commenter on this site observed: “You really are getting sloppy.” I agree.

                • Yo Mama, good morning. I never knew about that particular Supreme Court case. VERY interesting.

                  • That just means this site is doing what it was intended to do—inform.

              • If we’re going to parse the words of the origins of our enslavement, we must look at the Fourteenth Amendment, since so much of the extra-Constitutional mischief of the fedgov falls back on it. It was never legally, lawfully, morally, or Constitutionally passed. The fedgovs usurpation of their strictly limited powers were born in blatant lawlessness and corruption. Read about in “The South Was Right”, Pelican Press. Authored by twins James Ronald and Walter Donald Kennedy.

          • AVERAGE:
            You can teach and old dog something. I did not know that about fed land owning in a state. Thanks for the Info.
            See I know that most of the people here were smarted than me!;-)
            N.R. N.S. N.REB

            • Thank you, Northern Reb. It’s my pleasure. I’m humbled by your post.
              There’s a great bit I read about how the lands were taken contrary to treaty, illegally so, but I failed to find the link this evening. I knew I should have saved that bookmark!

              Also, not “smarter”,… just read a lot.

        • DK, you’ve branded yourself a statist that refuses to see the facts. In that, I now consider you irrelevant to our discussions here on SHTFPlan.com. While the hints below that Mac has left us indicate that this board thrives on its community, your refusal for intelligent discussion on the Bundy matter brands you suspect and in so many ways destroys that community.

          In a word, your willful ignorance and incessant shilling for the state in the Bundy matter shows us your true colors.

          Good bye. You no longer exist to me.

          I would recommend others do the same.

          NOTE: Do Not Feed The Troll

          *click*

          • NR: Don’t be a sore loser. Read the words of Martin Armstrong above and you will understand that 74% of the land in Nevada, that is not Private land, or State land, is federal land.

            That is just the way it is. Rancher Bundy is a welfare rancher trespassing on Taxpayer Land and grazing his cows on Taxpayer forage. He refuses to pay legitimate (and cheap) grazing fees.

            Rancher Hage was willing to pay his grazing fees but BLM wouldn’t let him. Therein is the difference between these two ranchers and their respective cases.

            I am sorry that you got so entwined in Rancher Bundy’s bogus FREEDOM cause that you lost perspective of the legal issues that frame this case. Land law in the East where you live is not the same as it is in the West.

            I am sure my young friend Brandon Smith is embarrassed as well by his lack of economic and financial understanding, running around screaming “hyperinflation” and “the IMF will run the world” when it is the FED that underwrites the IMF.

            A real man accepts his limitations, learns from his mistake and moves on to be a better voice for Liberty. Do likewise. There are too few of US and too many Sheeple. Even Alt media Sheeple who buy into every hyperbole presented and blindly follow every cry for FREEDOM even when it is FREE TRADE to enslave them.

            Close ranks behind REAL Constitutional issues. 🙂

            • Except that the US Constitution forbids the feds from owning any land except for necessary office buildings, dockyards, forts and magazines (munitions storage facilities). The rest can not be owned by the govt. In the past, individuals could homestead the land, and own it after a requisite number of years and improvement to the land. Jimmy Carter ended that…

          • “You might be a Statist if…”

            ‘You have voted for political candidates in your own party, expecting them to care more about you than the people who actually paid for them to be elected.’

            ‘You hate greedy corporations, but think an organization such as a government — itself beholden to (and factually a horribly-mutated form of) a greedy corporation — will protect you from (… wait for it …) greedy corporations.’

            ‘You think it is possible for a government to change the laws of supply and demand or determine an appropriate response to scarcity.’

            ‘You think the land mass — and the people inhabiting it — on one side of an imaginary line in the sand called a border, are objectively better than the land mass — and the people inhabiting it — on the other side of that imaginary line in the sand.’

            ‘You think some guy in a special uniform is objectively different from you in terms of morality and rights.’

            ‘You think it is morally justified to install an army base in the vicinity of a so-called foreign people, but would cry foul at the top of your lungs if the roles were reversed.’

            ‘You think that one person can morally make decisions about the appropriate use of the private property of another person.’

            ‘You think the moral nature of theft, murder, slavery, assault, and kidnapping change dependent upon the size of the group that authorizes these actions.’

            “The moral nature of a man is unchanged by the existence of an organization or his position within that organization. Organizational pursuits wherein the only real criteria for participation is desire and the threat of negative market response is non-existent — such as politics and government bureaucracy — will, given time, attract those who are both desirous of the benefits afforded by the available ways and means and motivated by the lack of negative feedback. (In other words, losers.) Inevitably, such organizations morph toward becoming chronically inefficient or oppressive, or both. (It is ironic that one of the main arguments against anarchy is also the reason one should most urgently support it.) This will happen no matter if people are inherently good or inherently bad since the ability to off-load responsibility and rent-seek — intrinsic qualities of any state — increase given a monopoly of violence and coercion. If there is no penalty for doing dumb stuff, more dumb stuff gets done. While this situation might ultimately be worse if people are inherently evil it makes sense to keep the old fable in mind. Since it was a snake when you picked it up, eventually you will get bitten.” ~ Wilt Alston.

        • You pathetic little man.

      5. I think we are well rounded with our preps, I just hope we are deep enough. I’ m afraid this mess will go on for a long time once it gets started. Good luck to all.

        • Same here. I’ve counted what we have and divided it every which way, from two to 18 to see how long it will last if we get to keep it. Our kids used to laugh, sometimes, when I would measure out a length of toilet paper for them to use. They would use three feet, and I allowed them six to eight sheets. Imagine having to do that for 18 people, several of whom are not going to be cooperative. I can now count in the dark and know where everything is stashed and I’m trying to divide flour and sugar into 18 portions and find I need more of both. We notified the girls that they would have to use an outhouse. Our girl is (sadly) fine with it, but one daughter-in-law refuses and says she won’t come here because it’s just too primitive for her and she has very sensitive skin. My son told her she would starve or be murdered in town, so she’s changed her mind and now wants a slop jar and someone else to clean it. That’s a big no, so she is sort of willing to come but she still hates my guts and refers to me as “The old Hillbilly”. I’m not playing fair because I refuse to reveal what I call her. This is going to be awful.

          • M’am,
            You are doing great!!! Some of us have families that refuse to wake up even when they admit we are right! And then they will want to move here postSHiFT

          • “Some people you just can’t reach”. -Cool Hand Luke

          • arsenic in the sugar, she will be the one who talks, gotta get rid of the weeds so the garden can grow, sorry so blunt waste of food she sounds like, but I barely have a conscience when it comes to survival as a whole, not mean, but DAMN tell her this isn’t a game but she would not be in my foxhole for long.

      6. I think the time has come. Soon there will be no recovering from this economic hell. Prep up, buy food and weapons while ykou can. Thanks Mac for taking the time to inform and educate.

      7. your leaders, corporations, bankers have stolen too much and left the debt hanging over the people, there is no fix for the corruption that has destroyed this country and no one to carry out the justice upon them, because most sold out.

      8. A countries internal problems often are an excuse for an external solution. This is how wars start.

        • Isn’t it strange how the Doomsday Clock has not been mentioned in all this pissing back and forth between all the major players? I find that strange to say the least.

      9. The rhetoric seems to be ramping up to incorporate virtually all of the things I’ve been prepping for except hurricanes. I have been holding off on buying gold because I have been putting my money in other items and saving it. Now I made a gold purchase and have started a search for acreage because I just don’t think we have much time left. I’m no economist, I just try to pay attention and there are just too many fuses burning. The similarities to Pre World War 1 with some added Hitler notes combined with all the economic anomalies and finally Obamas blatant overstepping of power makes my skin crawl. If you haven’t started prepping please do something now. If you have started evaluate what you have and act to improve your options. Finally don’t give up today worrying about tomorrow, enjoy it but be vigilant.

        CATI

        • DICK:
          You are right. about pre WWI but it also goes to the 1920’s and 30’s up to WWII and of corse our great (gag, cough, gag) leader ain’t helping out with his out of controll spending, now I see he want to bail out Debtriot.MI.
          I would not be buying gold right now. I would be looking into silver. cheaper and easier to spend after the SHTF.
          Thats my $.02 worth, for what it is worth.

          • I agree with silver over gold, although you have to do what you think best. I agree more with food, water and ammo and some neighbors you can trust. Pray for wisdom, pray for strength and pray for rain. God Bless!

          • Have you noticed the price of a .999 silver round is cheaper than the price of a 75% Silver dollar? What’s up with that?

            • Overseas Prepper.

              Numismatic value of the coin.

      10. Lest do it.

        I got nothing left to lose.

        Oh wait !!

        I can sell blood. That is, if anyone wants to take the risk of an anemic person.

        ozzie

      11. Tic Tock Tic Tock Tic Tock…times a wasting…

        Have I ever mentioned the need to know how to purify water?

        • I think you have, a few times, but reminders are always good!

          • 😉

        • a hose, a sapling, and a hose clamp will filter water… ixquickdotcom that shite

      12. Some of this planning depends upon the retention of the rule of law. Owning farm land is an example. If the majority have nothing look for ugly communism to rear its head and be the “solution” employed by the masses for the upteempth time. In that event the best thing, only thing one can do is to live in a place that may hold that at bay. In the event of the above I suspect that the US will dissolve into several independent nations and you better be in a good one.

        • I agree that the U.S. could possibly break up into separate units. The new have’s and have not’s.

          • RE: “that the U.S. could possibly break up into separate units.”

            Imho, it won’t be into, ‘the haves’ and, ‘have nots’

            It’ll be into, ‘the free’ and, ‘the unfree’.

            Fuck ’em, and feed ’em fish heads!

            • ‘Er, what i meant was: maybe the foolish people on the West and East coasts and in the power centers elsewhere welcome tyranny, but it seems to me the people in Fly Over Land think otherwise and have different ideas.

              Maybe those on the coasts have the same ideas, too?

              Wouldn’t that shake things up sum?

              • Average.
                I wonder how many states will stay together.
                I can see Illinois breaking up into 2 or 3 different entities.
                I gladdy give Chicago its freedom to move out of Illinois.

                • Chicago without the rest of the state to suck tax dollars from? That would become a real hell on Earth. ‘burbs better enclose the city in concertina wire.

            • hey average, where did feed em fishheads come from? i say that all the time, but for the life of me i can’t figger out where i heard it first?TIA.

        • Does thirteen acres with really lousy ground count as a farm? We do have our own well, which makes it much more attractive, at least as long as we get rain. I’m trying not to call attention to us but assume if I have an orchard and a flourishing garden, it’s going to be considered a communal farm which will seriously piss me off.

          • Call a local agronomist and get a soil test done pronto.

            At least that way you will know what is lacking in the way of minerals and trace elements.

            13 acres is way better than no acres, and can be made productive enough to feed you if you are smart about it.

      13. I’m ready. I’m so ready for the elitists to starve and the people who suck on the tit of the tax dollars to go away.

        Lets do this! BRING IT

      14. Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs:
        1. Biological and Physiological needs – air, food, drink, shelter, warmth, sex, sleep.
        2. Safety needs – protection from elements, security, order, law, limits, stability, freedom from fear.
        3. Social Needs – belongingness, affection and love, – from work group, family, friends, romantic relationships.
        4. Esteem needs – achievement, mastery, independence, status, dominance, prestige, self-respect, respect from others.
        5. Self-Actualization needs – realizing personal potential, self-fulfillment, seeking personal growth and peak experiences.

        • Oh that ‘Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs pyramid’ is a peeve of mine. That guy was a total Socialist. At the bottom of his pyramid should have been, Freedom and Liberty.

          What good is shelter and food if you’re a slave to another and subject to die or live at their whim?

          Also, how the heck do you figure anyone can gain, “freedom from fear”? How the…?

          Imho, “Self-Actualization” cannot occur without first obtaining Liberty and Freedom.

          Socialists, Collectivists and others of that stripe gloss over that thought. It’s no wonder, they love tyranny. The Bastards.

        • A global financial collapse and mega die off will leave Humanity with one massive failure complex.

      15. There are solutions other than assets seizures and claw backs. The major countries could just reset their currencies and those holding old notes, say like USDs could be holding money that’s rapidly devalued to $0.00 upon issue of the “New and Improved Dollar”. Now that would be a real kick in the pants for anyone holding even a little (old) cash. Bean, bullets, band-aides, and bullion will be the real new money. Go preps?

        • When currencies have been revalued in the past, they didn’t bother with coins, because most people only have a few, and it costs too much to replace coins. So if you have a lot of your cash in coins, you might escape the problem of currency revaluation. I save my copper pennies (pre-1982) and nickles because of the metal value. I keep the newer pennies (zinc), dimes, and quarters in a separate stash just in case of currency revaluation.

          Just don’t let the authorities know you have a small fortune in coinage.

          • RE: “in the past, they didn’t bother with coins”

            I think that’s what happened in Argentina during their devaluation.

            I’ve read that nickels are the best bet here today.

            Why would you keep the newer pennies (zinc)? From what I can tell, they are just about worthless, especially when you consider their value by the ton.

            The dimes and quarters don’t seem to be much value either, compared to nickels and copper Pennies.

            Time will tell though.

            • Didn’t they change the alloy in 13 ?

              • nickels…

                • jerrytbg.

                  They were to change the composition of the nickel in 2013.
                  More debasement of the currency.

                  • I thought so, remember reading that somewhere…
                    so 12 is the cut off…I shall continue.

                  • They haven’t changed the nickels yet, but they plan to. As of now, all nickels are made of nickel and copper, except for those made during WWII. They were part silver and are worth over $1 each in melt value. Check coinflation (dot) com for copper, nickel, zinc, and silver prices and the melt values of various coins.

            • @Average Guy

              You keep the dimes, quarters, and zinc pennies in case the paper currency is revalued. If the governments issues new currency, for example a new $1 bill for every $100 of old currency, your change is suddenly worth 100 times as much. They won’t be asking you to turn in $100 of old coins for $1 in new coins because it would cost too much and be difficult to do.

              Think about the math, and you’ll agree that coins are better to save than paper currency.

          • dimes and quarters in mayo jars really adds up quickly, doesn’t it.

          • A quarter of a reduced dollar is still a reduced value. No point in holding dimes and quarters. They just become a fractional dollar in reduced value. Old pennies and nickels are worth saving.

            • No. If you have to turn in an old paper $100 bill to get a new $1 bill, your old change is suddenly worth 100 times as much for a while. It will still go down in value, but it will buy more than the old paper money.

      16. Kevin2

        Interesting as to which states will live or die. Which states will defend what they have by check points or demolition of interstate bridges.

        • I think the new wealth states with oil, food and natural gas will band together politically. Texas will have the geographic location. There will be commerce but these states will not share their wealth. Venice Italy is proposing something like this.

        • I see something more akin to the Eastern Block collapsing as opposed to a civil war situation. The former industrialized states have a legacy of dependency of the offspring of the mass of former workers occupying areas without employment. Camden NJ and Detroit MI are examples of “has been”. A “one size fits all” does not effectively work as a template for government with such a diverse culture, wealth and geography of 300 million plus people. The Founding Fathers knew this with a sub fraction of the population and land mass. One need not rewrite government but rather follow the existing rule book in both letter and intent.

          The political power will follow the wealth creation out to the West and Southwest.

      17. New Ordnance issues an alert from The American Redoubt:

        “The Dangerous Summer –
        The Most Important Growing Season of Our Lives”

        “Food is the sine qua non of all weapons, for he who controls the food supply controls the fate of nations and individuals. A stratagem old as war itself, food has been used to manipulate populations from the time of Joseph in Egypt to Sherman’s march through Georgia to Stalin’s purge of the Kulaks to Monsanto’s war on seed-growers and the never-ending regulatory squeeze on farmers.

        Our mission is to turn the tables on the perpetrators and develop our own food supplies that are independent of the system. Come what may, a long-term food supply allows the development of the resistance and foments new strategies that are outside the control mechanism. We play our own game, not the adversary’s game. We are not bowed down by a bare toil of subsistence with no energy left over to escape an inexorable slide back into feudal serfdom.”

        from “The Secret Weapon” over at rocky mountain corn dot com.

        Also see “Fried Frogs and Commissars” at the same place.
        Free downloads of tactics and strategies to push back before they reach your line-in-the-sand. Look in the Tool Shed.

        Get ready folks. They are coming for everything. Bundy is the trip-wire on our perimeter. Game On!

      18. EAT THE WEEDS!!!!!!!

      19. SHTF is not far off, how far I don’t know but one thing I do know is that I’m prepper.
        And I prey that what I have done will be enough to weather the storm that is coming.
        Heck, maybe nothing will happen, but I don’t want to be the guy in line with my hand out begging for food and shelter from anyone.
        My advise for what it is worth, is to prepair for what ever you think is coming at you.
        Beans, rice, firearms and bullets are great, and must have items to have on hand, but you will need more.
        Water and away to purife it, first aid gear, cash, silver and or gold, personal items, hygene items (womens and mens),clothes, sleep equipment, cooking equipment, heating equipment, lighing, and the list can go on.
        Do what you can a little at a time.
        Doing what you can. It might mean the difference between freedom and slavery.
        History is about to repeat itself. There will be a large financial break down just like the ones in the 20th century, which MAY very well lead to a depression or worse a world war.
        I prey that I’m wrong but it sure does not look good. More and more of those so called financial wizards are starting to get all chocked up over what they see coming down the pike, it ain’t good boys and girls. So hang on we are about to go for one heck of a ride. MAY GOD HELPS US ALL.
        N.R. N.S. N.REB

      20. I still think the alert my dad, New Ordnance, issued from The American Redoubt rings just as true today as it did two years ago when he saw the handwriting on the wall:

        Truly this is, “The Dangerous Summer –
        The Most Important Growing Season of Our Lives”

        “Food is the sine qua non of all weapons, for he who controls the food supply controls the fate of nations and individuals. A stratagem old as war itself, food has been used to manipulate populations from the time of Joseph in Egypt to Sherman’s march through Georgia to Stalin’s purge of the Kulaks to Monsanto’s war on seed-growers and the never-ending regulatory squeeze on farmers.

        Our mission is to turn the tables on the perpetrators and develop our own food supplies that are independent of the system. Come what may, a long-term food supply allows the development of the resistance and foments new strategies that are outside the control mechanism. We play our own game, not the adversary’s game. We are not bowed down by a bare toil of subsistence with no energy left over to escape an inexorable slide back into feudal serfdom.”

        from “The Secret Weapon” over at RockyMountainCorndotcom.

        Also see “Fried Frogs and Commissars” at the same place.
        Free downloads of tactics and strategies to push back before they reach your line-in-the-sand. Look in the Tool Shed.

        Get ready folks. They are coming for everything. Bundy is the trip-wire on our perimeter. Game On!

        • I hope not just yet. My husband has a new knee and I have incipient back surgery. We are still planning a massive garden/canning session if there isn’t an actual war outside the front door Even if we have to crawl in the rows, we’ll get it planted. Don’t forget buying Rugosa Roses for the Vitamin C laden Rose hips. No scurvy for you!

          • We had a bumper crop of wild rose hips in certain places in the mountains last year. They were huge – some were big as cherries. We harvested about 25 pounds after the first snow last fall. After a few hard freezes they are nice and soft and easy to chew. We are developing a pemmican trail ration and want to add rose hips but need to find an easy way to separate the seeds. Does anyone have experience in getting the seeds out?

            • @chief…search youtube videos for rose hip syrup. Honestly, I don’t know how you chew the hips because of the fuzzy,sharp little thingys inside the hips. But, I would suggest trying to treat it like de-seeding a tomatoe…put them through a sieve and see if that works. Other than that, boil them first, strain, boil again saving all of the liquid for syrup.

          • Ya might want to reconsider that back surgery Vicky, check this out:

            How to Avoid the Number One Cause of Disability—Safe, Effective Treatments for Back Pain

            http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/04/joseph-mercola/back-pain/

            The bastards of The empire are out to ruin you in more ways than you can count.

          • Vicky, just remember that potatoes do contain a fair amount of vitamin C. I usually harvest around 400 pounds each season.

          • FYI, okra is a good source of vitamin c

          • Even canned tomatoes have vitamin C though the heat destroys it in most other things. If you can grow longkeeper or winterkeeper tomatoes you pull up the whole vine before frost, hang them in a cool, dark place and pick them to ripen on a window sill all winter and spring.

      21. I got more sprouts put into pots for later transplanting. I just figured something out today. Big seeds make large sprouts that are easy to pot, but small seeds make flimsy thin sprouts that are hard to pot. So in the future I’ll direct sow the small seeds.

        • Check out soil block makers, Johnnys seeds has them, they have a little 3/4″ one, then bigger ones that you can use the square punch in and the little 3/4″ blocks fit right in nicely for potting on your starts,,

      22. My goal is simple, I have lived my life as a free man, I will die a free man.

        • but, the reality of it all is… your a slave. And have been for most if not all of your life.
          I know its ugly to face so im sure I will be denounced ..but its amazing how many people never wake up to this stark reality

      23. Your country is being sold off out from underneath you by your representatives in government ..you dont have much time

      24. This is how dead serious Russia is:

        http://english.pravda.ru/russia/politics/22-04-2014/127418-dmitry_medvedev_report-0/

        This article talks about how Medvedev says that for 17 years Russia has been kept in the shadows, but now it showing their teeth. Russia has vastly expanded their global arms sales to of course China, but also India, and many African and Latin American countries. Along with the Middle East Countries. He talks about Russia no longer being held hostage to the west, including financially. It shows that Russia is becoming extremely dangerous and someone NOT to mess with.

        All the while the entire U.S. continues in need of internal repair of the bridges, roads, storm barriers, the energy grid, the entire infrastructure. Money instead spent on imperialism, a lost cause against not one, but two countries in Russia and China that can annihilate the U.S. in less than a hour. Even North Korea can likely fire an EMP nuke and destroy most the electronic stability of the U.S. The U.S. has to pull back and fix America first and stop f’ing in places that it has no business in.

        • Even though Pravda has long been the propaganda media arm of Russia, I believe there is much truth in that article. While Putin is flexing his muscles and smirking at the situations unfolding all around the world, he needs to remember that we are all stuck on this small pale blue dot in space.

          When the U.S. finishes her fall, (yes we are already falling)the sudden stop at the end is really going to hurt. The global repercussions are going to be huge, as much as other countries are trying to insulate themselves against it, it cannot be avoided 100%. I do not look forward to what lies ahead and I only hope I we can all do what is right in the eyes of God.

          As others have stated…these are certainly interesting times to be alive.

        • In any threat assessment the most important factor is intent. Does that person/country want to harm or kill you? How strongly do they feel about doing you harm? Worse still, do they follow an ideology that considers you an enemy and needing of destruction?

          When looking at China and Russia, I just don’t see that intent. What I see is a desire to restore past power and prestige and to never be America’s bitch again. But both countries want to make lots of money and that is priority one. A massive war would not be good for business.

          There really are only a few countries out there that are so bat-shit crazy to want Armageddon. North Korea is one of them. Pakistan is another. Saudi Arabia is iffy but is probably too degenerate to go all the way.

          So, watch out for North Korea and Pakistan: the terrorist twins who are bat-shit crazy and unstable with nukes.

      25. The whole illusion of a recovering U.S. economy is a complete joke. Anyone who lives in the true reality of day to day life knows that the only real beneficiaries of the implied recovery are the elite. Much of the illusion is based on the total disconnect of the stock (fraud) market from any known reality by endless injections of monetary heroin by the Fed and central banks to keep stock prices juiced and with it the the underlying assets of big business, big banks and wall street. Still bailing out the elite while the middle class wallows. Within the last week alone, with all of the trouble in Russia and the Ukraine, continuing bad economic numbers and terrible corporate earnings, even with the monetary heroin injections and lowered earnings expectations, the stock market is up over 550 points and gold is down $100 dollars. When you search financial websites for a fundamental based reason, you can find nothing. The most widely used word now is hope. Market up 150 points on “Hopes”. The economy is rigged and manipulated on a daily basis by TPTB for their advantage. Headline of the future. “Sun Explodes. Stocks Higher. Solar and Sun Glass Companies Soar on Bailout Hopes”

      26. The hardest part of the fall will be the mental health shock.
        Regardless, each person will suffer some form of loss. It cannot be avoided.

      27. The old Trailer park Investor says:
        Gold & Silver are a good thing to have but IF your poor forget the Gold and buy Food and good quality Water filters like the Black Berkey water filters and other supplies to keep you safe, secure, warm etc.
        When Gold hits $50,000 an ounce how are you going to buy a 20 pound bag of rice or beans with it???
        Even if Silver hits $10,000 an ounce how you going to buy a loaf of bread with that? NO ONE will have acceptable change for you. My recommendation is to buy “Junk Silver Dimes” pre 1965 they are 90% silver and everyone knows it, no one counterfeits these, no one questions these and if you have to take change in worthless paper you will be getting a lot less paper in change. Also you just might be able to barter for more goods instead of taking worthless paper as change. BUT if you have a Silver Dollar and your change is $9,000 you will NOT want $9,000 in worthless paper, right? Remember Junk Silver Dimes and Quarters are the ONLY way to go.
        Right now you would be much further ahead buying bulk food, water filters, survival supplies NOW rather than trying to buy them later at much inflated prices. So IF the question arises should I buy a roll of dimes for $100 or buy a pair of black Berkey water filters. BUY THE WATER FILTERS they will get you further down the road than sitting on silver dimes and NO clean water to drink.
        Now is a great time to think about alternative energy like solar and a wind turbine to make power you can charge a bank of batteries and run 12 volt LED lights in your home, you can even power 12 volt electric blankets, coffee pot, clocks, radios etc. A very good site to check out alternative power for your home is at:
        http://www.iplantosurvive.info

      28. Off Topic: The first of several ionic silver uses:

        PKLL

        The following therapies were developed in clinical settings using both the ASAP liquid and gel.
        Abscesses
        Because it’s an open wound, an abscess can expose the blood flow and the lymph system to possible bacteria contamination. It is very important to kill the bacteria in the wound.
        Silver sol can be used as a mouth rinse for an abscess in the mouth. Hold one ounce of liquid in your mouth for at least six minutes, two to three times a day. It can then be swallowed, providing an internal rinse as well.
        You can also use liquid silver sol as a rinse for an abscess on the outside of your body. When you first clean the abscess, rinse it with liquid silver sol. If it requires a bandage, soak the gauze bandage in liquid silver sol and put a drop of gel on the surface before taping it into place.
        For a very small abscess, you can simply put a drop of the silver sol gel on a Band-Aid and place it over the abscess. For a large abscess, spray the gel or the liquid silver sol on the wound one to four times a day.
        Acne
        Acne attacks people of all ages, from infants to adults. Acne can be caused by bacteria getting inside of a hair follicle or a sweat gland called a sebaceous gland. Once the bacteria gets under the skin it will duplicate itself, dissolving healthy tissue in the process and leaving scars behind. To get rid of the acne, you must get rid of the bacteria.
        To kill the bacteria, take two teaspoons of silver twice a day. Silver should also be applied topically twice a day.
        You can expect to see reduction in the size and in the damage of the acne within 24 hours. Total improvement of the skin will take about four weeks – the amount of time necessary for new skin to grow from the bottom to the top layer.
        Age Spots
        Age spots develop when the liver doesn’t produce enough enzymes to detoxify what is circulating through the blood stream. Certain toxins can be deposited in the fats underneath your skin, creating an age spot – usually a permanent effect like a tattoo.
        You can get the liver working properly again, and get the proper production of enzymes at the same time, by drinking liquid silver sol on a regular basis. Putting silver sol gel on the age spot can help excrete that which has been stored under the skin. For the best benefit, apply topically two to four times a day and take one teaspoon orally twice a day.
        Anti-Bacterial
        Found on the skin, in the blood stream, in the intestines, or in the hair, bacteria cause countless diseases. When serious diseases are examined in the lab they find that every serious chronic disease is associated with the presence of pleiomorphic bacteria or mold. These damage the immune function that normally protects the cell from foreign invaders. When the bacteria or mold invade a cell and reduce the immune protection, they allow toxins and contagions to enter the cell and damage the DNA, allowing serious disease to originate. Silver sol starts killing bacteria in as little as fifteen seconds. If you put silver sol gel, liquid, or mist in direct contact with bacteria, the bacteria will usually be totally destroyed within six minutes. Some bacteria may take longer but can be destroyed with regular silver sol use.
        For preventative use, drink one teaspoon of silver sol each morning and night. That dose can be doubled to fight an aggressive bacterial infection. It may be applied topically to any affected areas one to four times a day. Immune-supporting herbs may also be used.
        Anti-Fungal
        Fungus can get into any warm, moist area and often feeds off of sugars. Cutting off sugars can combat intestinal fungus or yeast. For a yeast or fungus infection in the armpits or vagina, apply silver sol directly to the yeast or take liquid silver sol internally. It can be applied topically one to four times a day, or as needed. The recommended liquid use is two teaspoons, one to three times a day. Acidophilus supplementation may be used simultaneously.
        Yeast and fungus can get inside your intestines, causing muscle pain and symptoms of depression and attention deficit disorder. It can also result in all the symptoms of headaches, lymph problems, lupus and autoimmune disorders, including fibromyalgia.
        Many people have resolved these symptoms by taking two teaspoons of silver sol daily as part of an intestinal yeast and fungus cleanse. The cleanse may be accompanied by one to three weeks of flu-like symptoms while the yeast leaves the body. Silver sol colonics have been used in the rectum, and douches are being successful in the vagina.
        Anti-Tumor
        Tumors can have a myriad of causes. Tumors are almost always caused by a combination of problems. One bacterium is not usually the cause of a tumor, but when bacteria get into the cell and neutralize your immune function, you become more susceptible to other toxins in the air and water. This allows DNA to be damaged and a tumor to form. Bacteria such as hepatitis B can cause cancer. Viruses can also cause tumors and cancer, including the human papilloma virus that can result in cervical cancer in women.
        Those with a tumor should drink one to four ounces of silver sol liquid a day, sipping the silver sol every hour for the first 4-8 hours. Drink two ounces a day for the next five days – two tablespoons in the morning and two tablespoons in the night. Apply topically two to three times a day to the tumor if it is visible. In addition, you may find an intestinal cleansing with pa pa daily milk thistle beneficial. For more acute problems, drink four ounces one day and sip it every hour the next day.
        If cancer runs in the immediate family, two tablespoons of silver sol in the morning and evening can be used as a preventive method.
        Maintaining a diet that is low in fat and sugar, and high in proteins, fiber, fruits and vegetables will also help. In addition you want to get at least eight hours of sleeps a night. You’ll also want to take supplements that have immune enhancing capabilities. You want to exercise if possible on a daily basis. I’m not talking strenuous, but just a walking type of exercise to make sure your circulation is good and your body’s immune function is properly working in concert with your lymph system. You want to neutralize toxins in your air and water using proper filtration in your home. You want to cleanse the intestines and your blood. You cleanse the intestines with an intestinal cleanse, you cleanse your liver by using milk thistle on a daily basis in a supplement form, then you cleanse the blood stream by taking a large amount of antioxidants. And you want to eliminate as much stress as you possibly can.
        Anti-Viral
        Viruses cause many diseases that we don’t have pharmaceutical drugs to cure. For this reason, the human race is at a high risk for virus activity. We have viruses that are being treated incorrectly with antibiotics. Antibiotics do nothing to destroy or cure viral infections. Silver sol is very powerful and patented against both reverse transcriptase and DNA polymerase viruses, interfering with the replication process.
        By drinking two tablespoons of silver sol in the morning and night, you can potentially defeat an existing viral infection. Inhaling a nebulized form of silver works best for a viral infection in the lungs or sinuses. Drops can also be placed in your ears, eyes, nose, or throat twice a day.
        To prevent a cold or flu, drink one teaspoon twice a day. If you are exposed to a lot of coughing and sneezing, the dose can be doubled. Immune-stimulating herbs are also beneficial.
        Dr. Gordon Pederson

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          Page 1 of 10Antibiotic Alternative
          Viruses cause many diseases that we don’t have pharmaceutical drugs to cure. For this reason, the human race is at a high risk for virus activity. We have viruses that are being treated incorrectly with antibiotics. Antibiotics do nothing to destroy or cure viral infections. Silver sol is very powerful and patented against both reverse transcriptase and DNA polymerase viruses, interfering with the replication process.
          By drinking two tablespoons of silver sol in the morning and night, you can potentially defeat an existing viral infection. Inhaling a nebulized form of silver works best for a viral infection in the lungs or sinuses. Drops can also be placed in your ears, eyes, nose, or throat twice a day.
          To prevent a cold or flu, drink one teaspoon twice a day. If you are exposed to a lot of coughing and sneezing, the dose can be doubled. Immune-stimulating herbs are also beneficial.
          Athlete’s Foot
          Athlete’s foot is basically a fungal infection on the skin. It occurs when we put our feet in shoes and keep them in a warm, moist area where fungus can grow. The first step to prevention is to wear clean shoes and reduce the amount of time that your foot stays in a moist sock.
          Silver sol can be sprayed into your socks or directly on the foot. Silver sol gel is an even better option in this situation. It can be applied between the toes to kill any yeast growth. You can also spray silver into your shoes to kill any bacteria. In addition to athlete’s foot, fungus can get underneath your toenails. By soaking your feet for 30 minutes every other day in a silver sol bath, you will kill the toenail fungus and the athlete’s foot. The fungus will return if you continue to wear shoes or socks that are housing bacteria or fungus.
          By killing the bacteria and yeast, silver sol will also remove the odor associated with athlete’s foot.
          Bacteria
          Bacteria are single cell organisms that actually grow within or outside your body. Left uninhibited, bacteria can cause disease or death. Many of today’s health problems result from bacteria. Pneumonia, one of the leading causes of death in America, comes from bacteria inside of the lungs.
          Silver sol will destroy bacteria in approximately six minutes. You will feel the effects within the first two hours of use and the benefits will continue as long as you use the product. Silver sol should also be combined with vitamins, minerals, essential fatty acids, amino acids, and antioxidants.
          Bad Breath
          Bad breath is usually caused by bacteria residing in the mouth and gums or between the teeth. Using silver sol rinse can destroy these bacteria. By rinsing the mouth for six minutes in the morning and at night, you will get rid of the bad breath.
          Bad breath can also be caused by strep throat or a staph infection. In these cases, bacteria destroy the healthy tissue, causing red blisters and white pus to form in the back of the throat. The odor comes as a result of the degenerating tissue. Silver sol is the fastest way to remedy the problem.
          Spraying silver sol into the nose four times a day can treat odor caused by a sinus infection.
          Bedsores
          When a bed does not have proper balance, pressure points can form. Irritation or rashes on the skin then lead to open wounds. To treat bedsores, get a good bed with a neutral balance. Do no use too much laundry detergent on bedding and sheets.
          Silver sol gel can be applied directly to the bedsore one to four times a day. The gel should be kept in place with a sterile bandage. You can expect improvement to begin very quickly after silver sol is introduced to a wound. Improvement in diabetics may take two to three times longer because of circulation problems.
          Black Mold
          Black mold is a fungus or yeast that grows in wet areas of the home like showers or walls. The mold will release spores into the air. If these spores reach your lungs, they will produce asthma- and chronic fatigue-like symptoms.
          To remove the mold, spray liquid silver sol on it and let it stand for 10 minutes before wiping it off. This will destroy the mold and likely prevent it from re-growing.
          Bladder Infection
          Urine remains in the bladder for about six hours before it is drained. If bacteria get into the bladder, they will duplicate every 20 minutes – a bladder infection can become serious very quickly. The infection will degrade the lining of the bladder and possibly travel up the tubes from the bladder to the kidneys, causing a kidney infection.
          To treat a bladder infection, two tablespoons of silver sol should be taken hourly for the first two days. For the next two weeks, take two tablespoons twice a day. You should expect to destroy the bladder infection within the first 12 to 24 hours.
          Silver sol liquid can be taken with cranberry juice or juniper berries.
          Body Odor
          Since most body odor is caused by bacteria, silver sol can help control the production of the odor. Spray or apply silver to the affected area and drink one teaspoon twice daily. This can also help with bad breath.
          Blood Cleanser
          Bacteria, viruses, yeast, parasites, and other toxins can get inside our blood. Silver sol is one of the best tools for blood cleansing. It will enter a singe red blood cell and cleanse at the cell level.
          For acute blood cleansing, take one ounce every hour for four hours. For some serious conditions, you will need to take one four ounce dose every day for the first three days, followed by a maintenance dose of two tablespoons twice a day.
          To cleanse your blood each day, take one to two teaspoons, one to three times a day. Vitamin E in soft gel form may also help.
          Boils
          Boils occur when bacteria or viruses get under the skin and duplicate, destroying the healthy tissue. The duplication produces a pustule, which is similar to cystic acne, only it doesn’t need a hair follicle or sebaceous gland to get down into the skin. Boils can be caused by simple irritations such as the rubbing of a belt on the skin or agitation on the side of a foot.
          A boil can be treated by applying silver sol gel topically one to four times a day. In some cases, you may want to cover the boil with a bandage. In addition, you will want to drink two teaspoons of silver sol liquid twice a day.
          Dr. Gordon Pederson
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          Dr. Gordon Pederson
          As soon as the liquid and the gel come in contact with the bacteria, the boil growth with stop. Within about two hours you’ll feel inflammation reduction. You will see improvement of the boil within four hours.
          Bones
          Bones can have a number of problems – breaks, infections, stoppage in the production of bone marrow and red blood cells – and pain is almost always associated with these problems. Silver sol liquid taken on a daily basis can help reduce the bacteria, virus, and mold within the system, thus reducing the impact on the bones.
          Silver sol can help reduce the infection rate associated with broken bones or compound fractures, allowing the immune system to repair the bone much quicker. Calcium and magnesium may also be used.
          Bowels
          Bowels can have a lot of problems – from constipation and colitis to infections, diarrhea, and yeast infections. Taken regularly, silver sol liquid can help destroy the bacteria and yeast that cause many of these problems.
          While regular cleanses are very efficient at removing constipation and toxins, often they do not remedy the cause of the problem, which may be yeast or bacteria. Silver sol can help destroy the cause of the problem. You should expect to see benefits within the first two days.
          Bronchitis
          Bronchitis can be bacterial or a virus that causes the inflammation of the bronchioles – the tubes that pass air from the throat down into the lungs. Bronchitis results in excess mucus production, clogged lungs, and coughing.
          Bronchitis can be cleared up by drinking two teaspoons of silver sol two to four times a day, inhaling from a nebulizer 15 minutes twice a day, and by using an intra-nasal spray twice a day for congestion.
          For those living, working, or traveling with someone with bronchitis, spray silver sol into the nose for prevention. The gel can also be applied to the inside of the nostrils. Immune- stimulating herbs and co-enzyme Q10 will also help. A cellular cleanse will prevent toxins and bacteria and viruses from gaining access to the blood stream.

      29. There will be regional wars until the third quarter of 2015 that is when ww 3 comes. Psalm 83 , Korea vs the US and China vs Taiwan. The stock market crashes and Marshall law comes. And at the very end, demons posing as aliens and the antichrist. Jesus Christ died for your sins and was resurrected. Repent ( Turn from your sin ) and be saved.

      30. Old Timer

        North Korea doesn’t want war. North Korea saber rattles to solicit covert foreign aid which is a pay off for a shake down as they misbehave. They time their actions when the US is busy elsewhere. Their marketable export is trouble.

      31. Same old tired crap. How many years have we been hearing this?

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