The End State: 5 Triggering Events That Would Place the U.S. Under Martial Law

by | Oct 18, 2016 | Headline News | 91 comments

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    This article was originally published by Jeremiah Johnson at Tess Pennington’s


    As you are probably well aware, the Obama administration would like nothing more than to place the United States under Martial Law.

    Once that is accomplished, the country and people would be locked down and kept under control on the pretext of continuing with the government and/or maintaining the national security of the U.S.

    Let’s take a look at 5 events the administration would be most likely to utilize to reach this end state.

    Note: All of these can occur simultaneously, successively, or individually in any combination at any time: there is no limit to their use or potential to recur!

    1. Economic Meltdown

    Over the course of this past year, we have seen a tremendous amount of volatility in trade (international) and the U.S.’s domestic manufacturing base.  As our fragile economy is based on 75% of consumer spending, any significant downturn that keeps the shoppers home can lead to disastrous reports.  Lower consumer spending means people do not buy goods and services beyond the absolute essentials, and worse: (in the government’s eyes) they hoard money and withdraw their funds from bank accounts.

    The Baltic Dry Index (BDI) can be seen as a key indicator of raw goods and materials transported to manufacturers and consumers via shipping contracts.  As mentioned in previous articles, Hanjinn Container Company, the7th largest container corporation in the world just filed for bankruptcy over the summer.  You can see the BDI fluctuations day by day when you visit  It has been fluctuating wildly over the past year.

    Deutsche Bank is on the verge of bankruptcy and large banks such as Bank of Americaand J.P. Morgan have been plagued by losses and lawsuits alike.  The unemployment rate is truly about 25% and the “Soviet” style statistics quacked from the radio on “record gains” and “economic improvements” are false and intentionally misleading.  A “Bank Holiday”has already happened in places such as Indianapolis, and when the politicians, bankers, and oligarchs decide, they will pull the plug on a Federal Reserve system of fiat currency that is already an ineffective laughingstock of a smirking world that is steadily returning to the gold standard.  When that Bank Holiday is declared, you can be sure the financial systems will collapse and Martial Law will be waiting in the wings.

    2. Cyberattack

    This one is definitely one of the administration’s favorites.  We’ve been seeing signs of this with the DHS (Department of Homeland Security) and DNI (Director of National Intelligence) letters and statements that the Russian government is hacking into the American electoral and election process.  The “targeting” of the DNC (Democratic National Convention) e-mails was assigned to the Russians and officially the Russian government has been accused by the administration of such, and trying to influence the presidential race on Friday, 10/14/16.

    We also saw on 9/7/16, two days before the 5th North Korean nuclear test, the corporation based in California that monitors North Korean missile launches and nuclear testing was hacked into.  A DoS (Denial of Service) was placed into their computer systems, preventing them from uploading satellite feeds and photos that would have enabled them to monitor the North Korean launch.  That corporation is the Project on Crowdsourced Satellite Imagery.  You can read more about this in the article “DoS Attack Crashes Website Monitoring North Korea’s Nuclear Test Site,” by Eric Niiler of

    If other governments can crash our internet and servers, do you think it is possible that the U.S. government as directed by the Obama administration can do it on its own? 

    When that occurs, cell phones will go down, the computers will go down, the financial markets will be in a turmoil and cease trading, and ATM’s and bank cards will be rendered useless.  Transportation, inventories, shipping, and deliveries will all be thrown into a turmoil and come to a halt.  For an excellent description of this, read Mac Slavo’s article entitledWhen the Trucking Stops,” that shows how vulnerable our nation’s supply lines are.  Bottom line: if all of this goes down as a result of a cyberattack, Martial Law will immediately follow.

    3. “Unforeseeable/Black Swan” Event

    As of last week, Obama just signed an Executive Order (EO), entitled Executive Order: Coordinating Efforts to Prepare the Nation for Space Weather Events,” signed10/13/2016.  Such an EO could cover meteor strikes, Coronal Mass Ejections (CME’s) from the sun, a comet, or any other space anomaly.  Not a big deal, you may think?  It is a big deal, because here’s the bottom line:

    Who is to prevent Obama from either causing another nation to launch an EMP (Electromagnetic Pulse) weapon, or launching one of his own (U.S.-made weapon), taking down the grid and subsequently blaming it on a CME event/solar storm, courtesy of the sun?

    Other events would include potentially man-made or generated storms, such as earthquakes, hurricanes, or even volcanic activity.  If one scoffs at such, remember all that it would need is a 1 megaton nuclear “kicker” to set off either Yellowstone Caldera or the San Andreas Fault.  Such natural disasters (initiated by man or genuine) usually result in Martial Law at the state level on a regular basis, much less one that is national in scope…that Obama would jump on to inculcate Martial Law.

    4. Nuclear War/EMP Attack

    Any day we could be at war with North Korea, Iran, China, or Russia.  The resulting devastation, whether a full-scale or a limited nuclear war would automatically set in motion the wheels for COG (Continuity of Government), and a declaration of Martial Law.

    Let me close this portion with my caveat:

    World War III will begin with the detonation of an EMP device or weapon over the continental United States, followed by a limited nuclear exchange and then conventional warfare.

    5. Viral or Bacterial Pandemic

    Either naturally-occurring, or man-made.  The CDC (Centers for Disease Control) just inherited a tremendous amount of “police power” over the summer regarding their newfound ability to quarantine individuals or large groups of people on the suspicion of contamination/communicability regarding viral or bacterial pathogens relating to a potential or real pandemic.

    There is an article by Catherine J. Frompovich entitled “ALERT: U.S. CDC Giving Itself Unconstitutional Powers to Round Up and Detain Citizens En masse Anytime, Anywhere and Throw Away the Key,” dated on 9/3/16.  This article details how these police powers were created in the Federal Register as the Proposed Rule “Control of Communicable Diseases” on August 15, 2016 that are now in effect to be found underFederal Register Number: 2016-18103.  Guess what?  That proposed rule is now law, and could easily be utilized to “justify” Martial Law in the U.S. because of a pandemic: naturally-occurring, man-made, or phony.

    In addition to all of these juicy tidbits, the deciding factor is what I refer to as the “IHM,” or “Incredible Human Mob.”  Yes, Civil Unrest is a factor; yet it is not a method but a “sign/symptom,” a “side-effect” of what happens when one of the aforementioned 5 methods are employed.  “In the interests of public safety,” or “to protect the public,” or “to maintain law and order” are the phrases trumpeted by our benevolent and friendly government.

    As Rahm Emmanuel said, “Never let a crisis go to waste,” the very ones who are to be protected (the public) are the ones who create the conditions for civil unrest.  It’s literally a “problem that takes care of itself,” and here’s the bottom line to cover the Civil Unrest factor:

    Using the fake justification “in the interests of the safety of the people,” martial law will be declared to confine, restrict, and control the people…protecting them from…themselves.

    Then come the restrictions to travel, the police state in the streets, at the workplace, and the confiscation of firearms.  Then comes the removal of “dissidents and potential troublemakers,” as well as the curfews, restrictions, and limitations in every facet of our society.  Martial Law is an objective of the Obama administration.  The problem is that he (Obama) cannot just arbitrarily declare it.  The declaration requires a prod, such as one of the 5 methods mentioned.  In those circumstances, he then can suspend our rights under the Constitution and bypass the true laws of the U.S.  Such an end state is his desire.  Such an end state would also mean the end…of the United States.

    Jeremiah Johnson is the Nom de plume of a retired Green Beret of the United States Army Special Forces (Airborne). Mr. Johnson was a Special Forces Medic, EMT and ACLS-certified, with comprehensive training in wilderness survival, rescue, and patient-extraction. Mr. Johnson is an ardent advocate for preparedness, self-sufficiency, and long-term disaster sustainability for families. He and his wife survived Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath. Cross-trained as a Special Forces Engineer, he is an expert in supply, logistics, transport, and long-term storage of perishable materials, having incorporated many of these techniques plus some unique innovations in his own homestead.

    This article first appeared at Tess Pennington’s Ready

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      1. “Then come the restrictions to travel, the police state in the streets, at the workplace, and the confiscation of firearms. Then comes the removal of “dissidents and potential troublemakers,” as well as the curfews, restrictions, and limitations in every facet of our society.”…….if “anyone” demands to enter my home under any illegal warrants/orders; they will be shot on site.!!!

        • Yep. Anyone in a fucking uniform will be shot on sight if this scenario plays out. We’ll see who has enough stomach for this. There are millions of people like me that ain’t gonna take this shit.

          • Menzo, AMEN. I’m right there with you.

          • There are 10’s of millions that are like you. Most of us are quiet and keep to ourselves. I have been lurking on this website for 5 years or so and I don’t hardly ever post. I imagine that there are many more out there like me waiting to take action when the time is right.


        • J, it’s the same with me. There’s no legitimate basis for so-called “authorities” to enter your home. If they want to live. all they have to is stay away and they’ll be just fine.

        • J,you lost me at the beginning of your post,tis then game on/best of luck/help others if you can.

          • You can bet chur ass that is what Obummer is counting on, in hopes of killing that many more “whites, Christians and innocents” out there on the streets (in other words: all of the people who planned for nothing and haven’t anywhere to go about 4 or 5 days pass and all homes are essentially without grub.

            What does Russia protect first and foremost? Their children and then their women; in that order. There’s a lot of wisdom in that, especially if we wish to assure that our race doesn’t perish from the Earth just to make some rich bastards happy along with The Muslim Hoarde “infesting the earth.”

            I am all for “strong-arming” The USA back into our control before it is simply too late. We have both the time and tools needed to pull it off too …dammit all.

            • Hillary can be selected but she will never be a president. I believe this is the end of this governmental system, if the people treat it as such. This is not by the people nor for the people so we the people should resist by whatever means necessary. The ballot box is no longer the way to force change, many believe it will come down to the ammo box. With that in mind, vote early, vote often and keep your powder dry.

        • Here in the USA there is no such thing as “martial law”. It doesn’t matter what happens, and it doesn’t matter what position the person who “declares” martial law is serving within. What that person, whatever position they occupy, is actually doing is OPENLY declaring their treason and intent to use *terrorist force against Americans.

          The US Constitution was created during some of the most trying times, and during a state of “emergency”.

          “The Constitution of the United States is a law for rulers and people, equally in war and peace, and covers with the shield of its protection all classes of men, at all times, and under all circumstances. No doctrine involving more pernicious consequences was ever invented by the wit of man than that any of its provisions can be suspended during any of the great exigencies of government. Such a doctrine leads directly to anarchy or despotism.” The Supreme Court of the United States, 1866

          “Emergency does not create power. Emergency does not increase granted power or remove or diminish the restrictions upon power granted or reserved. The Constitution was adopted in a period of grave emergency. Its grants of power to the Federal Government and its limitations of the power of the States were determined in the light of emergency and they are not altered by emergency.” Home Building & Loan Association v. Blaisdell, 290 U.S. 398, 425 (1934)

          There’s NO such thing as “emergency powers” that anyone serving or working within either of the state or federal governments in the USA that they can “evoke”, not lawfully. Those within the federal or state governments can claim “emergency powers” for anything they want and the ONLY thing they do is make criminals of those who are too ignorant or are domestic enemies/traitors of the USA and actually try to enforce these “pretend” “laws” when the “enforcers” should have immediately arrested those who wrote and gave those orders. They fooled the people who never bothered to learn what part they themselves play within our nation, what powers they actually were granted to use, and now the people are paying for it.

          What most people are not aware of is that emergency powers and martial law is tied closely to those who run the “money” system here. That it was another unlawful action brought up by treasonous judges.

          Dr. Edwin Vieira: “If we go to the doctrine of “Emergency Powers,”… what was the foundational case that put that doctrine on the constitutional map? It was Knox vs. Lee, the legal tender cases brought after the Civil War.

          … read a dissenting opinion by Justice Stephen Field, the only Justice on the Supreme Court who had the integrity to dissent in every legal tender case that he heard. He wrote a dissenting opinion in Dooley vs. Smith, in 1872. He wrote, “The arguments in favor of the constitutionality of legal tender paper currency tend directly to break down the barriers which separate a government of limited powers from a government resting in the unrestrained will of Congress. Those limitations must be preserved, or our government will inevitably drift from the system established by our Fathers into a vast, centralized, and consolidated government.”

          You notice he was not talking specifically about the monetary powers. He wasn’t saying that these arguments would lead to the monetary powers being unrestrained. It was destroying the concept of limited government. “The arguments in favor of the constitutionality of legal tender paper currency tend directly to break down the barriers which separate a government of limited powers from a government resting in the unrestrained will of Congress.” How do you define, or how would you characterize, a government resting in the unrestrained will of Congress, or any other political body? It is by definition a totalitarian government…

          The Federal Reserve System was there when the greatest banking collapse in American history occurred, in 1932-1933, and in what was called the Great Depression of the 1930s. In that period what happened? The Roosevelt New Deal. What were the powers they were screaming for? Emergency powers. You’ll find that written into many statutes, e.g., The Emergency Banking Act of 1933. You should pay attention to the title, The Emergency Banking Act of 1933, and the “Aggregate Powers” doctrine. It’s been all downhill since then.

          How should that have been done? Well, Americans would have had to understand and enforce their Constitution. You notice I say Americans, not the Congress or the Supreme Court, because who is the final arbiter of this document? [holding a copy of the Constitution] It is not Congress, and it is not the Supreme Court. It is “we the people.” Read the thing. How does it start? “We the people do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States”; not “we the politicians,” not “we the judges.” Those people are the agents of the people. We the people are the principals.
          The doctrine is very clear that, being the principals, we are the Constitution’s ultimate interpreters and enforcers. You don’t have to take my word for it. Let’s go back to the Founding Fathers…

          The Founding Fathers were profound students of law and political philosophy, their knowledge unequaled by any today. Their mentor in that era was William Blackstone, who wrote Blackstone’s Commentaries, probably the most widely read legal treatise of its time, certainly here in the United States. What did Blackstone write about this subject? He wrote, “Whenever a question arises between the society at large and any magistrate vested with powers originally delegated by that society, it must be decided by the voice of the society itself; there is not upon earth any other tribunal to resort to.” (We the people are the Constitution’s ultimate interpreters. (Dr. Edwin Vieira, )) (end quote)

          If the people do not understand our legitimate government, what is allowed, forbidden, and only allowed under certain circumstances and to be done only in specific put-into-writing ways – and they mostly don’t – then what is going on will continue until we no longer have our nation.

          Understand that those that “just follow orders” and “just do their jobs”, enforcement or other agencies, that are NOT constitutional in their actions and intent are traitors; and when backed by governmental force, are *terrorists.

          At least read and try to understand these concepts below from Madison.

          Madison said: “That all power is originally vested in, and consequently derived from the people. That government is instituted and ought to be exercised for the benefit of the people; which consists in the enjoyment of life and liberty and the right of acquiring property, and generally of pursing and obtaining happiness and safety. That the people have an indubitable, unalienable, and indefeasible right to reform or change their government whenever it be found adverse or inadequate to the purpose of its institution.”

          And that: “The civil rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship…The people shall not be deprived or abridged of their right to speak, to write, or to publish their sentiments; and the freedom of the press, as one of the great bulwarks of liberty, shall be inviolable. The people shall not be restrained from peaceably assembling and consulting for their common good; nor for applying to the legislature by petitions or remonstrances for redress of their grievances…The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

          Plus: “The rights of the people to be secured in their persons, their houses, their papers, and their other property from all unreasonable searches and seizures shall not be violated by warrants issued without probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, or particularly describing the places to be searched, or the persons or things to be seized.”

          He also said: “In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial to be informed of the cause and nature of the accusation, to be confronted with his accusers and the witnesses against him; to have a compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor; and to have the assistance of counsel for his defense.”

          The US Constitution does not allow for those elected or hired to implement or install “emergency powers”. It is not in their job description, the contract they agreed to when they took the governmental office or position they occupy – elected or hired, military or nonmilitary. The Bill of Rights is a list of further restrictions put upon those who serve or occupy governmental positions; the US Constitution defining exactly what they can do, which restricts, forbids anything else that is not specifically listed there. It does not allow for “executive orders” or “judicial orders” rather it forbids them in Article I, Section. 1: “All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.” Nor does it allow “emergency powers” under whatever pretext those in governmental positions would like to pretend they can use against us.
          The word “All” in Article I, Section. 1 is all inclusive, meaning no one in the executive branch or within the judicial branch nor their “minions”, may create laws, executive orders, emergency powers, etc. (“All”: the whole, entire, total amount, quantity, or extent of). That “power”, “authority” is denied to those who serve within any capacity in those two branches: executive and judicial.

          The entire concept of “emergency powers” was repudiated by the Supreme Court, in Panama Refining Corp. v. Ryan and then again in A.L.A. Schecter Poultry Corp. v. U.S.(Roosevelt’s New Deal legislation)
          In Schecter, “the NRA attorneys, led by General Counsel Donald Richberg, strongly advocated the use of the ’emergency powers doctrine.'”
          The Justices did not accept the government’s arguments. . . .
          Speaking for a unanimous Court, Chief Justice Hughes also dealt a death blow to the emergency powers doctrine. Counsel for the government’s opponents relied on [Ex Parte] Milligan, arguing that an “emergency does not increase constitutional power nor diminish constitutional restrictions.” Yielding to their appeal, the Chief Justice retreated from the near-endorsement he had given the emergency powers doctrine in [Home Building & Loan Association v.] Blaisdell. “Extraordinary conditions do not create or enlarge constitutional power,” he declared. The Court conceded that such conditions might well require extraordinary remedies, but that did not “justify action which lies outside the sphere of constitutional authority.” Those who acted under authorization of the Constitution, the Court said, were not free to transcend the limitations upon the power that it granted merely because they believed that more or different power was necessary.
          After Schecter ( A.L.A. Schecter Poultry Corp. v. U.S.) the Supreme Court’s attitude started shifting. It went from making sure that ALL laws, etc were in Pursuance thereof the US Constitution as the duty was assigned to them until National Labor Relations Act, when the Supreme Court began to uphold every piece of New Deal legislation that it considered. This was NOT “Good Behaviour” being practiced by the courts and the people should have removed them immediately.

          Then the case of U.S. v. Macintosh, which overruled the case of Holy Trinity Church v. U.S. contributed greatly in transforming America from basically a Christian nation into more of a “government controlled State.”
          Senate Report 92549, which was written in 1973, says that the USA has been in a state of declared national emergency since 1933, which means that we have been – and still are – are living under “emergency rule” an unlawful state here in the USA. A multitude of “laws” have been put on the books since 1933 that have unlawfully, but steadily, increased the power of the federal government.

          Supposedly, now a US president could even institute Martial Law under these “new socialist” pretenses of law. Why not? this presidential impersonator gave himself First Degree murder ‘powers” (assassination powers) and few even protested. Under martial law, travel can be restricted, and all forms of communications can be controlled. Martial Law is unlawful here in the USA, it is treason being committed by all involved; from those that initiate it, to those who “just do their jobs” and “just follow orders” and implement it. But because those actions are unlawful here in our nation those people following those orders are made into terrorists and are used against our people, our nation; be they law enforcement or military.

          ( )
          In times of crisis presidents often lay claim to extraordinary powers to preserve the nation. Such emergency powers are neither granted expressly to the president nor delegated to Congress by the Constitution. Instead, they are judged to reside purely in the need for leaders to protect national sovereignty and domestic order. The mandate in Article II that the president “preserve, protect and defend” the US Constitution and uphold its provisions is considered (by those who want those powers) to contain implicitly the notion of emergency powers. Yet that cannot be true since they are required to “PRESERVE”, not only “protect and defend” the US Constitution. In actuality all US Presidents are held to a higher standard then everyone else as they are the ones charges with implementing the “laws of the land” – all that are IN Pursuance thereof the US Constitution. The wording of the Presidential Oath was established in the Constitution in Article II, Section 1, Clause 8.

          ‘Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation: “I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”’

          Notice that the Framers placed the presidential Oath of Office after the beginning clauses which set forth the organization of the executive department, and before the ending clauses that specify the contours of the President’s assigned power. The President is required to take the oath after he assumes the office but before he can lawfully execute it. The location and phrasing of the Oath of Office Clause strongly suggest that it is not empowering, but that it is limiting – the clause limits how the President’s “executive power” is to be exercised.

          Both the state and the federal governments get their powers from the people.

          Read these cases below and understand why the people had to be “dumbed down” in order for America to be brought down. Why it is so hard to get people now to read that very short document, the US Constitution, or even just look up comments from the founding fathers.

          How many, if they realized that most of what is going on is unlawful, is actualy working from within to destroy our nation our way of life, our legitimate government would really follow those orders, enforce those “color of law” when it is also them who will lost the right to own ANYTHING?

          “To say that one may not defend his own property is usurpation of power by legislature.” O’Connell v. Judnich (1925), 71 C.A.386, 235 P. 664.

          “Owner has constitutional right to use and enjoyment of his property.” Simpson v. Los Angeles (1935), 4 C.2d 60, 47 P.2d 474.

          Brookfield Construction Company V. Stewart 284 F Sup. 94: “An officer who acts in violation of the constitution ceases to represent the government.”

          “What is a constitution? It is the form of government, delineated by the mighty hand of the people, in which certain first principles of fundamental laws are established.” Van Horne v. Dorrance, 2 Dall. 304.

          “A constitution is designated as a supreme enactment, a fundamental act of legislation by the people of the state. A constitution is legislation direct from the people acting in their sovereign capacity, while a statute is legislation from their representatives, subject to limitations prescribed by the superior authority.” Ellingham v. Dye, 231 U. S. 250.

          “The basic purpose of a written constitution has a two-fold aspect, first securing [not granting] to the people of certain unchangeable rights and remedies, and second, the curtailment of unrestricted governmental activity within certain defined spheres.” Du Pont v. Du Pont, 85 A 724.

          “The constitution of a state is stable and permanent, not to be worked upon the temper of the times, not to rise and fall with the tide of events. Notwithstanding the competition of opposing interests, and the violence of contending parties, it remains firm and immoveable, as a mountain amidst the strife and storms, or a rock in the ocean amidst the raging of the waves.” Vanhorne v. Dorrance, supra.

          *28 C.F.R. Section 0.85 Terrorism is defined as “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives”.

          • I do not believe Obama has the will or a way of locking down the border, which would also be required in order to lock down this country; unless he gets troop help from outside this country. Would the UN for instance have enough troops to do this? Would he enlist the assistance of the Mexican government or the drug cartels to close the border?

            • I have been saying all along that it will be the UN who does the door to door knock down of those with guns. there will not be too many americans that would be willing to be the first one through the doors knowing full well that they will be met with deadly force. you can bet they will do it in the middle of the night too. my grandma used to say nothing good ever happens after dark and I think this applies here. folks the world elitist tactic has been to divide and conquer. we all must stick together on this because united we will stand and individually or divided we will fall. we live in very scary times and very perilous times that the majority of us as adults have never seen before. it is going to require due diligence on every patriot to stand strong otherwise they will destroy this country even further than has been allowed to. keep your faith, keep your eyes and ears open and by all means keep your arsenal ready for the oncoming onslaught. remember the elitists are like little kids. they cant keep their big mouths shut and like to tell secrets so listen for them. they will give you a heads up guarantee it.

          • Thank you Cal for citing the court cases and who said them.
            In the case of martial law, Constitution Art 1 Section 9 applies to “The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.”

            So the civilian courts would be closed… Martial Law or Military Justice system would be in effect. Okay, you will still have your 4th and 5th Amendment rights under Article 31 of the UCMJ.

            But remember, the burden of innocence is on the Defense (you). The civilian court system follows English juris prudence where you are assumed innocent until proven guilty. Two different systems… So do not say a thing when brought in, ask for military counsel, ask for the charge sheet.

        • Solzhenitsyn literally wrote the book on this half a century ago (banned in some countries until the fall of European Communism in the 90’s).
          His biggest regret (and that of many others who ‘burned in the camps’, was not putting up a fight when the Police/Security Operatives knocked on the door. His advice to future generations was to NEVER allow yourself to be taken peacefully. Go down hard, because the fate awaiting for you, particularly young women, in the camps was often worse than death, and you were unlikely to survive long term in the camps anyway.
          I recommend people read his passage about ‘burning in the camps’ or listen to mine or the many other recitals of this passage on youtube.
          I made a short 5 min long video where I read one short passage from his book where he gives his ‘advice’, but its strictly for those with the ears to hear the warning (very few these days).
          Once ‘they’ have you they own you, and history has shown that all nations and all peoples will act with immense cruelty and evil once they ‘own someone’. Read or listen to Solzhenitsyn, and then think, and then think even harder.
          PS, Martial Law is a legal term and unlikely to be used in the US due to some massive implications, noteably the refusal by military personal to kill civillian ‘militants’ due to the various oaths and rules in the armed services which should prevent the use of deadly force against the people (and billeting in private residences, etc). More likely is a ‘state of emergency’ where the Police issue a ‘shelter in place’ directive and then a combination of militarised Police and ‘alphabets’ backed up by private contracters (likely to be foreign mercs) do the ‘heavy lifting’, if you know what I mean.
          I recommend people oncentrate on ‘shelter in place’ and ‘state of emergency’ rather than ‘martial law’.

      2. Sounds like these events could happen all at once. Keep stacking.


        • It probably won’t happen but now that Obama has announced the US will spank Russia with a covert cyber attack, what if Russia hacks the EBT card system on Oct 31 and totally screws up the government deposit to every food stamp account? I could see Obama hoping for that just so he could declare martial law AND delay the election. Obama would get a 2 for 1 and probably welcome it.

      3. Personally, I am getting a bit sick of the fear porn. 🙁

        • Can anyone define fear porn? It seems most of the book of revelations is threatening? Terrorizing us with the thought of Armagedon, Tribulation. WHY? Our eyes will melt in there sockets and our tounges will melt in our mouthes before our bodies hit the ground. That sounds like it might be fear porn? Why would the bible terrorize us like that? Maybe so we will fill our lamps to save our asses? But who can be sure?

        • durangokidd: I dunno if you’ve served in a BDU and been engaged with an enemy, or are from another walk of life (doesn’t matter to me). Just wanted to say that you would much, MUCH rather be ‘sicked and tired of fear porn’ than to have Obummer do what he intends, daring Russia to ‘defend Issad’ (or whomever it is).

          After having lived through more than enough ‘skirmishes’ (of sorts) the very last journey I’d like to make is survival in the aftermath, even knowing I’ve got enough of most everything to see us through our latter years quite nicely (assuming gardens will grow and gangs never find this area).

          I have all manner of throwing stars, yet all only differ in size (by circumference) from four-pointed 3 and 1/2 inch to a bit over 8 inch (still having point points, and the areas that COULD be sharpened into razors are (almost) there. I’d like to have a “wheel” that would grab the point(s) then “WHIP” then out a barrel made with a slot. So far I haven’t come up with anything that can forcefully throw with accuracy (sorta like Archery 101).

          I found them when combing a site for Reloaders, Gunsmiths, Instructors, LEO’s …and got 10 small and 10 large, for conversation pieces. The more I look at them, the more I think I may find them to be better than say, three SOG Throwing Knives (just steel and paracord type). (You’d know they’d stick sure as shit). lol…

          • Use a sling shot for throwing stars.

          • Would something like a clay pigeon thrower be useful in deploying your shurikens (throwing stars)?


      4. Let me see…. I’ll take a self-inflicted EMP with a side order of pandemic Ebola. For dessert… how about a nice slice of global financial collapse with a slice of infrastructure devastation. Oh waiter!! Bring me a glass of Islamic terrorism …. 1993 Chateau Centre de Commerce Mondial please.

        • Heartless, that sounds like one helluva food order. LOL!

          • Heartless,you forgot your going away mint of planet killing asteroid with a little Cthulhu!

            • Heartless

              YUM YUM

      5. …..and if it looks like Trump is winning……..fill in the blanks…

      6. Mac, bad ass post.. these are all the senarios..I can feel the pressure ripping off the the top of my skull..With the thieves, gangs, murderors, rapist and other career criminals running around Houston, will leave cops defenseless..Like one cop told me, laughing, telling me that he and his buddies will be abandoning the cruisers, jumping into civilian clothing and then hall ass to get home to access shelter and preps..It’s not looking good at all. Durangkidd, this is real. You will know in a few weeks… The white hats and the military thats backing them will be going after the cabalist stoogies, to mass arrest them. this when the fun starts..


        Only a fool does not know fear.

        • HCKS
          I’m now working with tree new Cops. ages 24 to 27 years young. I asked them what are they going to do if they are told that they have to go door to and take away the gun from the citizens.

          All three of them said the same thing. “Fuck them I’m not going to do it they can stick it up their ass”. So we have some HOPE!

          I for one am going to stay long enough to see (if it is a school day ) to see that all the kids get home when the bubble burst. If not screw it I’m at my Home BUGGING IN for a short period of time. Then going to BOL#1 I figure three (3) days. While at home and going to condition RED. All firearms will be loaded to the max. All windows will be boarded up on the lower floor. AMMO, Food, water, and medical supplies will be set up along with my power supply.


          • Sarge. Tell them to go along . If they find three guns confiscate the piece of junk. And say that’s all we found . We need people on the inside. If you guys bail only the rats will be left. Don’t ask don’t tell. Go through the motions . But don’t see anything. Pick up your paycheck. It’s the only way.

          • Please cover ur upstairs home was robbed,they came in, using a vehicle to get to the balcony, wen it would’ve Ben easier, to burst thru the front door.

      7. Every square foot of this country will become death’s ground. We are NOT going anywhere, NOT handing over our weapons. THEY will pay a terrible price. These ((( juden))) puppet masters think we will obey…THEY are so wrong. Yes they will inflict a horrible case of whoop ass on us, BUT THAT will come at a terrible price for THEM. I hope (((THEY))) understand that. THIS will be a black flag event, no quarter asked AND no quarter given.

        • Chauffeur, spot on. Do whatever you consider necessary to survive. There is no wrong in that.

          • Brave.
            Picked up some 110 gr HP. for my carbine the other day had them out shooting Pumpkins. If a Pumpkin is like a human head? OH MY GOD what a round to use.

            Here is what I did I put an old rag around it and put in a burlap bag. After I shot it I checked inside the bag. It was nothing but mush. I did the same with some FMJ’s Nice clean holes with some splitting. it broke the pumpkin into 4 or 5 pieces. Then I went to soft points. Results major splitting and some mush. Range 40 yards.

            I’m going to change my mags out to have one HP one FMJ and one soft point. This should stop anything under 100 yards with no PROBLEM!

            Just thought you would like to know. I was using some Rem. HP and Win. SP. Military FMJs. But I believe you will get the same results what ever brand you use.


            • Sarge, that is very interesting. I’ve been looking everywhere for .30Carbine HPs and can’t find them in my area. The pumpkins sound like the brains of trolls, free shit army, and other assorted trash. LOL! Might have to go online for those HPs. I got plenty of 30-round mags for my baby.

              • I read somewhere that German soldiers if they had a choice would grab 30 carbines first.

            • 12-Gauge 00 or 6-Shot removes anyones’ head within 15-feet. 🙂 Either of our Mossbergs would remove their head (try one on a pumpkin). lol… (Remember that NYC cab driver years ago that someone blew off their head leaving only some lower teeth). Badass street thug there).

              110 grain eh? Shooting 5.56’s or ? I don’t have anything that ‘light’ in a rifle, except a .22LR and a gaggle of stuff to run through her.

              Here’s one for ya Sarge: Before he died my Dad showed me a special Shotgun Shell he wanted to make sure I would use then rebuild over and over again. It’s a 12-gauge shell with a normal charge but instead of a slug or BB’s there’s a very heavy-duty fishing line (monofilament) stuffed in there with about 15 or so ‘clamp on lead weights’ AND about five ‘treble hooks’. I can’t imagine exactly what that might do… other than hurt!

              • Equorial

                BOLO’S with a fish hook twist.

                I Like it.

          • Braveheart. I keep forgetting to mention . Edward the long shanks. Was the British king that deported all the Jews from England. And they try to make him look like a bad guy to this day.

            • LW, I didn’t know that about Longshanks. Well, there’s ONE good thing about him. But what he did to the Scots and Irish are well-documented and proven. After all, he did capture my namesake and executed him for daring to stand up against English tyranny.

              • Nobody’s perfect?

              • And what the terrible German NAZIs did to the wonderful Russian communists is well documented. Edward the first tried to get his son married to the reining Scot princes but she died on the way. I wonder if the Jews he kicked out ran to Scotland and made this happen . The bank of Scotland . And a propaganda machine that is still working fine and still under there control. Edward the first tried to get rid of the English Jews. Adolf Hitler tried to get rid of the German Jews. To the infamy of there names. And God said. I know of the blasphemy of those that call themselves Jews but are of the synogouge of Satan. Was William Wallace used by the children of Satan to keep there last stronghold in Britain? And Edward the first had no choice but to get absolutely ruthless to get rid of the children of Satan? We and our government are being used and controlled by them now. And our lieing media will write our history . And will the people of the future believe it? Like we do now?

              • Longshanks, unlike Brokeback Obama, did throw his fruity son’s male lover out of the window. That’s gotta count for something…

      8. Martial law, the Constitution is suspended. So if you delete the Constitution… then the powers in office just deleted themselves from power… The Constitution is what gives them the power to Govern.. With out that document , no one is in charge.. so it boils down to who has the biggest balls and who is going to obey the Government that just declared that the Constitution is void… When enough Americans decide that they will not obey this so called law… They will defend themselves with making Swiss cheese out of the Storm troopers that think they will do the bidding of the rouge Government in charge…Then there will be no Federal Gov. The states can do just fine on their own.

        • Tuesday, I’ll still live by the Constitution and Bill Of Rights. It doesn’t matter what TPTB comes up with.

        • I’m staying with The Constitution and Bill of Rights “word for word” with zero tolerance for back-sass and bullshit.

          I don’t recognize Martial Law as a Constitutional “state” that I must obey

          I won’t obey a president who is not an American by birth and who is openly against The United States in a destructive manner on all counts. The last four years are pure insanity with one hell of a wrapup coming right up.

          I won’t obey anyone backing up the president. I’m just going to be a big pain in the ass.

          • Flock to Maryland see Communism at its best.

      9. The people of America, indeed the people of the world will pray for martial law when the SHTF!

        Might be the only way to restore some sort of order to social chaos.

        Does FEMA have enough camps for all the candidates? And do they have a supply chain to feed them all?


        • You are getting senile.

          • Or mixed the wrong meds. Read the bottles carefully!

            • Shit Happens … carry on ツ

        • Its OK… when you mix up your hearing aid and suppository position it causes you to lift up your leg and say,”huh?” when you can’t hear too well.

      10. weapons are sighted in, probably will go check just one more time. 3 shots each, got more sandbags so i can pill box my house lol, i jave this itch in my brain that there is no more bullshit, no more games, the time for half measures and talk are over, stay low, inconspicuous, blend in and what till the time is right to make any moves, if they come a knockin they will get wasted, remember though it wont be two or three guys its gonna be 8-10 of them f^*kers so best to stash your shit in a tree or down the street or somethin and just get out quick. anybody in Galveston county feel like teaming up we have a few guys. not much but gorilla warfare is the running tactic. get some farraday bags too for your comms. good luck and God speed.

        • With The Middle East it has been “Guerrilla Warfare” strictly for about all operations (The men over there say it is no diff than fighting with one arm tied to your belt).

          We all do remember all those Marines that had ZERO ammo on arrival last year right? There were gonna take out a good hunk of ISIS too, and just like I thought, something went wrong and they failed once again (ISIS is just a danged, danged lucky bunch of folks)! Their ass is bailed out time and time again, so they MUST be smart!? /s

      11. Pfftt….
        There is no such thing as an EMP weapon…..DOESN’T EXIST.
        Has anyone ever seen one?
        Seen one tested?
        Complete whimsical theory!
        Yes….Nukes might play a role, but saying an EMP event will happen is on par with saying that Aliens will appear in the sky and take sides in this WW3.

        • Really DUKE ??????? LMAO !
          Although i think many would like to EMP the US , i doubt its nessesary anymore.
          Cyber attacks can accomplish enough.

        • Collage kids have built them, smaller ones out of what looks like a T.V. news van, with results that can stop a 8000 sq foot building. I have seen ones that can disable a cell ph from 15 ft away. You Tube that one. I’ve never seen a gold Lambo.. But I bet you one exists

        • @Nuke, you are wrong.

          Starfish Prime:

          ht tps://

        • So i didnt spend 6 months of my life testing equipment, vehicles and electrical components in a 300,000 Mev electromagnetic pulse generator to determine the results and durability of military and civilian equipment in an EMP or CME..
          Hmmm must have been a real good dream then… for a Rip Van Winkle type nap..

          • navyguy — I know exactly how you feel bud. There exists nothing that someone doesn’t know 1,000,000,000 more things about than you, because YOU are lowly military …just as I’m a lowly SEAL that loves sucking pond-scum at a pig farm (and their fucking right).

            I think there’s a damn good reason that most SEALs used to retire in Belize, and still do (and each successive “post” gets better and better with each new owner).

            I want to stay here and help tear the place up. Everything remotely political looking is going to come down to the ground, nothing sacred. If we are going to live in a nuked environment, their asses are coming out of THEIR “rabbit holes” el pronto to enjoy it with the rest of us, in a lawless environment (I wonder if THEY prepped)? No. Because everything of yours is theirs if they want it, because THEY said so and that’s all there is to it. (Can you imagine)?

            • Thanks Equorial, I needed that. I was just a nuke machinist mate 2 who did some crap for a small research project that ended up being used for the Govt report/senate brief that they based the novel One Second After on… I just tested stuff but if you know us nuke guys we are a little bit above the average on brainpower and with everything that I saw I was able to put a lot of things together.. things that we are living now.. scary times coming and fast as a chief to his morning coffee.. good luck and god bless

        • What about the carrington event?

      12. Sarge, your right, the cops are wide awake..Good to know they have a real Cop training them..With tommorrows debate, and the fact that Trump will win again, there is no telling what kind of SHTF event will commense before the elections…this is what is making me loose bladder control.


        SHTF will commense.

        • HCKS –

          Thank you … for sticking around … … much appreciated dude ツ

          • Good to see you still hanging in there Hcks.

      13. Remember when the NWO engages in war…to cripple its troops not merely kill them whenever possible. Remember that every crippled NWO scum shipped home as a crip is like a giant sign saying “dont f*ck with Americans”. I am reminded of the great Byzantine emperor Basil who on defeating an army of Hungarians and taking 9,000 prisoners, blinded 99 out of every 100 and the 100th captive he simply put one eye out and told them to lead the blinded throng to their king. Needless to say there were no more wars with Hungary at that time. Every crippled NWO scum is a massive drain on resources and morale, Blinding is good for foreign white troops who cant be turned against the NWO, cutting off the junk of nonwhite NWO is obligatory (Population control,RAPE PREVENTION AND JUSTICE). You want to render them useless for further hostility against we the people. I THINK THEY WILL USE AS MANY WHITE FOREIGNERS AS POSSIBLE SO TAKE CARE NOT TO WOUND THEM SO AS THEY CANNOT PROCREATE, WE DONT WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN WHITE GENOCIDE. I am absolutely sure the NWO wont take care of these crips and this will shout even louder to the world “dont f*ck with Americans”. NWO troops here will become frightened, lose cohesion and effectiveness, nothing frightens more than than looking at the disfigured fighting an unjust war and unjust cause.

        • Fuck’em. They want my white, Christian ass dead so that means I am perfectly justified blowing them off at the fastest possible rate-of-kill I can manage (per evening).

          Should “it” happen, you’ll enjoy a much longer WW3, without wounds, if you remain out of sight during daylight hours, including twilight as well.

          Steady rain would be a Godsend…

      14. I think #6 (or maybe it would be a form of #3) is if we get a massive Bradley-Wilder effect (people lying to pollsters) and Mr Trump wins the election by a significant percentage.

        This would cause the Govt to immediately disavow the election as having been corrupted by Vlad’s gang of Hackers.

        Since some plan B will have to be concocted/implemented, Mr Obama will call Martial Law to keep all the Trump crazies under control until….


        • Obama would not have written the EOs that he has unless he intended to use, or use as a backup, all of them, and of course they are going to say Trump wins due to Russian interferences, thus we are going to figure out a recount, or Obama just declares himself Grand Czar and dubbed Hillary as POTUS with his magic allah-wand (Michelle’s sex toy maybe).

          Most of the EOs were to curb anyone getting around his intentions, such as really trashing our coal industry (when it didn’t need any trashing in the least …but America sure needs the electricity those plants were generating). I remember that he wanted to implode each of the coal mines, and don’t some go down like nine miles? At least we didn’t screw ourselves by blowing up perfectly good mines – – perhaps they will before all is said and done (but why blow up whatz gonna be YOUR own back yard someday soon)? *Or so the most of them are thinking …we think.

      15. The good cops leave you alone if you haven’t done anything wrong . The rat cops say ,suspicious vehicle or wellness check to harass you . Or I smelled something or the dog alerted. Giving permission for a car search lets a dirty cop plant something in your car to make more busts and get more bounesses. Luitenant Steve Anderson of the NYPD testified on open court. That police officers routinely plant evidence to get more busts. Remember that and tell them that when they say they have to search your vehicle. And get there name and badge number. And tell them you will fill there jacket.Or say you had an emergency phone call a relative is sick and you don’t have time for a search.

      16. Thats not martial law, and obama would not like martial law,
        Martial law is actually one of the best things that could happen right now.
        Martial law is the imposition of the highest-ranking military officer as the military governor or as the head of the government, thus removing all power from the previous executive, legislative, and judicial branches of government.[1] It is usually imposed temporarily when the government or civilian authorities fail to function effectively (e.g., maintain order and security, or provide essential services).

        But like everything else, defination does not matter, it means what they tell you it means….

        • And you just told everyone why Martial Law isn’t really a legal or Constitutional “thing”.

          For one, there were no “ranking military officers” when The Constitution was roughed out then smoothed and signed.

          Martial Law came along at a later date and thus isn’t remotely constitutional (and he’s rewritten it so that all are powerless but himself …since Congress gets to approve nothing he does). That’s a president breaking all of the rules for eight years, HEAVILY for the past four and he isn’t intending to leave the WH quietly, if at all.

          Like everyone says, lock ‘n load. There is something SO big coming down the pike that Biden hopes we DO NOT (???) catch wind of it before it happens? Why the hell not?

          • I agree with you, its not constitutional, at all.
            My point was that what everyone calls martial law,
            is not martial law.
            If ddeclared by an honorable man, it could save the constitution, if done by a less than honerable man
            It could destroy the constituion. But a president does not
            Declare martial law, top military brass does to remove power
            From the government.

      17. I wonder how many of you would do what you said you would do. I bet a bunch of you would be crying and begging for help from the government.There are few real men left in America and a lot of pussywhipped loud mouth babies left. What re you?

        • I guess we will find out.

        • You are free to believe anything you wish. I don’t care either way what you might be thinking, and most likely never will. But I wish you well and Godspeed.

      18. Oldman, all of us are real men and will put our money where are mouths are when the time comes. If you want to lose a bet, go right ahead. No skin off my nose.

      19. I fear that if there is martial law, cell phone and internet will be shut down. How are we going to know what is happening in the country ?

      20. I am not fond of any of these reasons – because they don’t implicitly give the government carte Blanche to loot homes and seize food and weapons. Any of the five might be a trigger, but it will take a rebellion or riots to let them go after their real goals – which are ‘life savings’ – guns and ammo – non-compliant media – and rebellious leaders.

      21. Thes gov clowns cant even keep track of who is coming across the border or overstaying their visa let alone lock us down,,, not to mention theres a whole hell of a lot of folks who would ssy OH HELL NO!
        To you fed goons,,, you do still want a home to go home to dont you? I mean it might be sorta tough to go home and face your neighbors if you are stomping on their freedoms dontcha think,,,,
        Stuff to think about

      22. Nope. If “they” show up at my door, I will have a plate of cookies and a smile waiting for them. Have at it boys- I turned in all of my guns to the roving liberals a few weeks ago…

        That is the first go round.

        If your stuff is not secured and hidden right now, you will not make it through the first episode. It can be hidden on property away from your home… many options. If you hide assets in your home, there are many options there as well. That will make it easier to access when the “officers” are departed and the marauders approach.

        First round is local legal yokels taking stuff from you so that they can survive better. They will either take some of your nonperishable food, or all of it and insist that you go to a shelter. That’s what all of those executive orders are about. Skirmishes and killings on first line preppers defending their constitutional rights.

        Second round… people pretending to be official who are really scavenging. Murders occurring on a regular basis.

        Third round… marauders. All pretensions cast aside. You are alive and they want your provisions.

        Although it is great to be brave, a live dog is better than a dead lion. Hide, obfuscate, elude… until you are forced to show force. Then… go big, or go home. Literally.

        • So what about them ieds

      23. I keep thinking and trying to keep it all in proper context …but the bothersome part is that I keep finding myself being led back to a lack of evidence that there are lots of ANYONE that has snuck into the country, other than some immigrants, but it certainly doesn’t appear that any “pro-fighters” have migrated here, much less made an attack (only our government can make such frigged up attack scenes using the media to cast and write the lines of script). Then they must photoshop all the bodycam evidence, cut out three minutes of the tape, or redact all but one word of a 300,000 word document, and they get away with it (no punishment at all for refusing to answer a question)? If we did that we’d never get out of jail. THEY never even face a remote chance of being imprisoned.

        So very much of America is now completely out of balance that only a return to “what was” is where we can make a beginning, once again (yet this time we’ll know what to never allow), and hopefully get these kids smartened up education-wise before they face the world before them – which sucks at best.

      24. My brother patriots, I wanted to share this my invention with you. I developed gear that defeats infrared vision. I am sharing it instead of patenting. The quickest and easiest way (you are going to laugh) A blow up chubb suit, hooked to a 40lb CO2 tank, the CO2 comes out at -40, attached to a regulator, you can match the surrounding temps with a laser thermometer and a suit thermometer, fill the suit up with co2 and have a regulator (mine I made out of vinyl 2 layers it has about 3-4 mm space allowing co2 to flow not a chubb suit but you get the theory, allow supercooled air to circulate around your body and use the regulator to match surrounding temps). gloves, you just wind 1/4″ tubing around a glove to a valve on each hand , same with helmet and and shoes) my visor is 2 sheets of plexi glass that I can again fill with co2 attached to a valve. Its the flow of co2 that allows you to cool so the regulator are always open to some degree. I have a splitter coming off the regulator going to various parts of the suit. I made my outer sheath out of leather pouches filled with crushed glass because it gives complete thermal reflectivity, like scale mail… but heavy insulation would work just well as the suit itself keeps you cool (overkill with the crushed glass). I have tested this with a flir scout and it works perfectly. I am suprised the US military hasnt developed one but mine works and as you all know you have to be able to defeat thermal imaging. Using and infrared thermometer I am able to adjust the suit to the surrounding temperature by simply adjusting the flow of co2, your body heats up the co2 so you have to play with the regulator settings to get presets. A 40lb tank lasts about 12 hours. Its pretty awesome.

      25. The Most likely thing and easiest thing. would be to False flag shut down the electric grid. No blue helmets needed. Simply turn off the lights. Blame it on whatever is handy Russians , EMP Trump? It would work really well in the extreme cold weather.

      26. In areas where it snows, people will die without the grid unless they prepared for such an event with sub zero clothing, personal tents to use indoors, and alternative forms of heat such as wood stove or fireplace.

        It is amazing how lax we become after years of living luxuriously. We need to spend a few days to a week or two without, just to reacquaint ourselves with the reality. That is for those not already off grid.

        I’m thinking that a take down might occur on one of the rare days when temps drop to freezing in California. Those in the loop will be well prepped and probably on vacation.

        Watch the weather. It doesn’t hit freezing temps but 2 or 3 days of the year, usually in late January or early February. March is early Spring and warms up considerably.

        My guess is that those who are going to die, will die within 24 hours from freezing. Followed by another bunch who use up the gas in their car trying to stay warm. After that, some begin to fall from dehydration. Two or three weeks afterwards people begin to fall from hunger, but by this time it will be warmer and then the looting and home invaders will be foraging in stores and breaking into other people’s stuff on a large scale. This is the time for self defense. However, I think Marshall Law will be conducted as part of a real and necessary attempt to pick up the now dead and rotting bodies which stink like hell. Better to find the dead in your area and bury them before this stage of the program. What do you think. It is illegal, under normal circumstances. But under such extraordinary events, so what. The smell of a dead body will bring unwanted attention. Might as well deal with it yourselves. This is getting crazy. Something, everything possible should be done to avoid Marshall Law. These psychos are sadists who look forward to a time when they can torture people say for such crimes as the psycho ever felt his feelings got hurt. Like when someone pointed out his crimes, which of course is a very touchy subject with the criminally insane.


        • Actually a dead body around here wouldn’t last long. The Crows, buzzards and coyotes make short work of a 1,000 pound cow. A deer that weighs about as much as a lean human is gone in two days. There are also bears and cougars but not very many. In some places the Feral pigs would consume a human body in a few hours.

      27. I cannot see myself hanging on the side of an MRAP with one foot on the running board let alone standing in the hatch looking around… while riding around the town attempting to intimidate the hordes. My nightmare is the 1 in a 100 Americans that do an IDPA or IPSEC or 3 gun match every other week… the ground hog hunter… the deer hunter with the slug gun… the bow hunter… the guy or girl nobody noticed before that simply likes to spend some range time alone punching tongue depressors with a 22… Wanna understand what folks can do when angry or calm… Youtube “hunting boar with a 22” and watch the old fella in Texas do things to a hog that will scare you out of your body armor.

        I must agree with the comment above … I would not care to be in uniform or anywhere near an official vehicle in a post event world while attempting to enforce any… ANY … government edict.

      28. Will a paper patched steel rod make a good armer piercing round? Would the square end work like a cookie cutter? Somebody do a video.

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