Organized Community Defense Is America’s Last Hope

by | Aug 7, 2014 | Headline News | 189 comments

Do you LOVE America?


    This article has been generously contributed by Brandon Smith of Alt Market.

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    Not long ago, I felt compelled to address the idea of self defense as a moral imperative in an article titled “Violence In The Face Of Tyranny Is Often Necessary.” My intention was to perhaps undo some of the propaganda conditioning that Americans have suffered over the decades that has taught them that “all” forms of violent action are “immoral”, including the defense of one’s person, one’s property, and one’s freedom.

    The recent uprising at Bundy Ranch in Bunkerville, Nev., confirmed my predictions that many Americans are tired of playing by rules chartered by the establishment and are ready to take measures outside of the boundaries set by the system. The reality is that change will never come without consequence and cost, and when faced with an entrenched tyranny, if the citizenry cannot present the threat of physical consequence to their oppressors, the oppressors have no motivation to relinquish power.

    To use the schoolyard analogy yet again, it is a fact of life that the class bully will not leave a victim in peace because he is enthralled with the feeling of power over others. The bully will not stop because he has no incentive. Protesting only encourages him. Using the system as a shield only amuses him. Logic and reason only anger him. Punching the bully in the teeth is the only incentive he will respect. If you show that you can disrupt a tyrant’s abuse of power anytime you wish, if you show that you can hurt him back, only then will he take you seriously.

    There is a rather insane notion within modern activist movements that self defense represents an abandonment of higher principle. They argue that to fight is to automatically lose, and to prepare for conflict is “extreme.” I would say that self defense is actually the HIGHEST principle one can value, for without the courage to physically resist tyranny, without the will required to put one’s life at risk to stand against the evils of the world, ALL other principles will be lost. Even Gandhi, the man often idolized by pacifists and “non-violent” activists, recognized this fact:

    “Hence also do I advocate training in arms for those who believe in the method of violence. I would rather have India resort to arms in order to defend her honor than that she should in a cowardly manner become or remain a helpless witness to her own dishonor…”

    “When violence] is offered in self-defense or for the defense of the defenseless, it is an act of bravery far better than cowardly submission…”

    I believe that the idea that self defense is a morally unacceptable option for dissenting groups is an obnoxiously false one, promoted by the establishment itself and sold to easily brainwashed dupes to steer the public away from the only method that could in fact do harm to the elitist power structure. The holier-than-thou attitude of the pacifists is encouraged as the system plays to their exaggerated sense of righteousness. Good people want to remain seen as good people, and even though deep down most of them understand that fighting back against aggression is not wrong, the peer pressure of the sunshine patriots often convinces them to keep their mouths shut, or otherwise they might “hurt the cause.” I say that without self defense and the possibility of action, there is no cause.

    As I write this, I am working during a brief trip to Alaska. I was invited by Stewart Rhodes, the head of Oath Keepers, to check out the logistical progress of a project he has launched in an effort to counter the apathy and inability of the American populace today to present a meaningful defense against a host of threats the public faces in these increasingly chaotic times.  The very real dangers of economic instability, poverty, civil unrest, open borders, viral pandemic, and Federal corruption are all factors that led to the creation of the Oath Keepers CPT (Community Preparedness Team) program.

    The CPT program is a State-by-State program designed to reestablish the concept of localized community preparedness and self defense measures in case of regional or national crisis, including localized security, medical, food and water supply, as well as engineering and communications: everything a neighborhood, a town, a county, or state would need to rebuild in the advent of unexpected (or expected) catastrophe. The CPT mission is to train groups of people within as many communities as possible to a pinnacle of preparedness knowledge, and then send them out to train other citizens in other towns and counties, replicating their knowledge across the nation as they go until eventually every person has the ability to become self reliant and unafraid.

    The establishment would have you wait for help in the wake of a disaster, begging a bureaucracy like the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) for aid that you may never receive, when you could be helping yourself and your neighbors without any need for Federal involvement. The establishment would also rather have you unorganized and helpless in the event that they choose to overstep their Constitutional mandate and deny you your inborn liberties.

    They do not fear traditional protests and cardboard signs, as movements like Occupy Wall Street end up trampled, ineffective, and mostly forgotten. But they do fear citizens with resolve ready to fight to keep their freedoms, as we saw at Bundy Ranch with the outright retreat of the Bureau of Land Management. When in doubt, do exactly what the oligarchs fear.

    I have myself joined a CPT group in my home county in Montana, and I have also seen excellent groups in training in Alaska. The people I have met through CPT come from all walks of life, a full spectrum of ages, and various career backgrounds. Many have military experience, from administrative to tactical. Each person brings to the table an impressive array of skill sets, from science and engineering to security to medical and beyond. All of them have been highly intelligent, effective, and unwavering in their principles, not to mention the finest collection of folks I’ve had the pleasure of working with. If America had to start again from scratch, I would suggest starting with the Bill Of Rights, and the kinds of citizens that make up the core of the Oath Keepers CPT.

    The only negative responses I have seen in reference to the CPT concept have come from establishment mouthpieces like the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), and from activists with a rabid attachment to pacifism who for some reason feel threatened by the mere idea that other activists might train for the worst case scenario.

    In my view, if a goal can be achieved through a purely peaceful redress of grievances, then it should be. However, it is foolish to expect that some evils can be defeated by reasonable speech and refusal of participation alone. In fact, these methods are nothing more than a stop-gap, a delaying tactic in the face of inevitable conflict between those people who desire to control others, and those people who only wish to be left alone.

    I find that people who deny this reality tend to be people who have no previous legitimate experience with self defense and preparedness. In the world of non-threatening white-bread activism, they can play at being heroes, patting each other on the back for their poetic speeches and catchy slogans. But as the movement evolves towards real tangible organized defense and proactive preparation, they lose their status as heroes and fall behind the curve. The “intellectual warriors” then have to become true warriors, or otherwise be left in the dusts of history. For some, the change is upsetting, and they tend to take the reprehensible position that NO ONE should be allowed to train effectively for self defense scenarios, lest the movement be labeled as a whole with the dreaded “M word” (Militia).  In response to their skewed philosophy I would ask one simple question – If we are doing what is right and what is practical, why should we limit ourselves by catering to the unreasonable fears of others?

    I see great hope in the growth of the CPT program and Oath Keepers; perhaps the only hope this country has left. For if we do not organize with our neighbors to protect our communities from all enemies, foreign and domestic, then who will? I also see a welcome alternative to the long failing methodologies of “lone wolf” survivalists, as well as shamelessly recreational protestors.

    When people ask me for solutions to the collapse of America, often they are looking for a predetermined top-down magic bullet response. There is no such thing, nor will there ever be. There is no scenario in which we will escape unscathed. There is no cartoon-land happy ending at the finale of this story.

    The “solution,” as it were, is ultimately something that many do not want to hear about; namely, hard work, sacrifice and a willingness to put everything on the line for the future. Our only advantage is that we still have some time, and any time is better than no time. What we have left must be used now to the greatest effect possible by organizing together for self reliance and security during collapse.

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      1. Probably be the LAST HOPE we may ever get….

        • I love this site, even the doom and gloom, but people what ever you do don’t build your life around what you read on here, and live in fear. Trekker Out. Never Panic!

          • I don’t get panicky. I sure do get pissed off though. Often times lot of this stuff I read here and other sites, makes me chuckle and shake my head while wonderin’ what’s their angle.

            • Even thou small town and community groups sound great, Ill testify that they are usually the worse and easiest places to get yourself landed in jail these days.
              First of all the politicians don’t care one little bit for you except on election day. They receive only a fraction of their income from you and very little oversight on what gets done with the money they receive. The money doesn’t come from you. It comes from the state and the feds. So that is where their loyalties lay. Most communities would fall apart in weeks without the governmental aid. They just plain cant tax the local people enough to pay the bills.

              • “An army of one” ain’t an army [unless it’s Yaweh.] Only hope is in groups.

                • Jericho, even though this was fiction it sure showed what can happen. I sure did like that TV series.

                  There was another precursor earthquake. This one was near Ascension Island and occurred before the 9.0 Japanese earthquake, 10 days before. There was also another earthquake 4 days ago that happened on the Mid Indain Ridge, the same spot 1 day before the 9.0 mega quake. This is two locations, same exact spots that had precursors before the 2011 super Japan earthquake. This shows that the plates are building again. Not meaning that Japan is due for another one, but it deserves watching. Today’s precursor quake also occurred before the 8.0 peru earthquake in 2007, and a 7.3 in Honduras in 2009. I will go by the same locations on comment# 3196234, as these new quakes show the same locations to be in danger.

                  • Jericho. That is correct for this forum/subject. Even though it was nuclear, it still applies to this line of thought.

                    It boils down to Community, Neighbors, Friends, Family and in some cases even total strangers. We must come together to live. The lone wolf can and will survive, but to live is to have community, someone to converse with, to interact with, be it good or bad.

                • Plan, Prep, Form teams……. were have I heard this before……. Great artical…. and you all best get busy……

                  • Great article Brandon, but try to refrain from using the Bundy Ranch as a symbol of Patriotism or a collective effort against Tyranny in the future. It undermines your credibility. I want you to be credible.

                    It was neither of those things.

                    What the Bundy Ranch FIASCO demonstrated is the depth of resentment of the American people against the encroaching totalitarianism of the Federal Government; to the point of Armed Rebellion, by the most ardent Patriots among US whose disdain for Federal Authority in general, (and their own ignorance)led them to ignore the merits of Rancher Bundy’s Case.

                    NO Constitutional issues were relevant in Rancher Bundy’s case. NONE. No individual real or personal property rights were trampled by the Federal Government in Rancher Bundy’s Case. NONE.

                    What the Bundy Ranch Fiasco reveals, is the lack of competent leadership in the Liberty Movement. Rhodes as an attorney, and Sheriff Mack as a former Peace Officer, should have recognized the legal realities of Rancher Bundy’s Case. Rancher Bundy’s Case is a simple case of commercial trespass and failure to comply with a legitimate Court Order. Twice.

                    I will not mention here, how horrified I was that Sheriff Mack would implement a strategy of human shields using women and children to protect these “heroes” from Federal gunfire. That strategy will not win the hearts and minds of the american People. Despicable!

                    Please, no one should muddy the waters here by pointing to other Cases where rights may have been violated in Nevada, or elsewhere by the Federal Government. Each CASE is different and has its own legal basis and merits.

                    Rancher Bundy does not have a legal leg to stand on and the Federal Government will bring the hammer down on Bundy after the mid term elections. I have a Franklin that says Rancher Bundy is in custody before Christmas. Any takers?

                    Leaders of the Liberty Movement should pick and choose their Armed Resistance to the Federal Government wisely. Support of Rancher Bundy is/was a STRATEGIC blunder, as NO American rights or liberties were threatened. Rancher Bundy does NOT have a right or liberty to use Taxpayer Land without payment.

                    On the other hand, armed Patriots, patrolling OUR Southern Border is legitimate, even to the exchange of gunfire while engaging Invaders. This would be legal, even to downing a Mexican helicopter in American airspace firing upon Americans; if the President and the Congress refuse to enforce American sovereignty, security, and Immigration Law.

                    The Liberty Movement must base its RESISTANCE to Federal Authority upon the Principles of self determination as enumerated by the US Constitution, and should have legal counsel validate when legitimate American Rights are infringed.

                    Good luck!!! 🙂

                  • Bundy Ranch was about the US Govt picking winners and losers.Look at all of the industries the US govt subsidizes. Look at the land Bundy was using,what’s that good for ? Nothing unless Reid really had a deal with the Chinese. Why not subsidize cows ? The American consumer will be the winner.

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                    Durango Kidd makes a good observation. I would like to add one thing.

                    Mr. Bundy stopped paying his tax/fee some twenty years ago. One would have thought that the Feds might have let that go for a year, but by year two, would have been on Mr. Bundy’s case by eighteen years ago. The issue probably would have been settled by now.

                    Nobody in the press ever asked why the government waited twenty years to make a big deal out of this. something is deeply wrong here, and I have no idea what it is.

                  • One of the few articles lately, that I can literally agree with every word. I don’t care too much for Brandon’s foreign policy, but on THIS particular topic, he is hard to beat. Good one Mr. Smith.

                  • johnfornaro: Yes, there was MALFEASANCE in office at BLM with respect to the lapse between the time that Rancher Bundy severed his grazing lease and the point where the initial legal action against Rancher was filed.

                    Then again after the Court ruled against Rancher Bundy and he ignored a ORDER to vacate the Taxpayer Land. Again the BLM delayed physical action against Rancher Bundy when he failed to vacate Taxpayer Land a second time.

                    All appropriate government officials should be fired.

                    Granted, charges, hearings, and judgments take time as the mills of the PTB grind slowly; but this case of Trespass should have been resolved long, long ago. It will be completed after the mid Term elections, I have NO doubt.

                    While the government did pick winners with respect to the Banks and General Motors, the government DID NOT pick winners and losers in the Bundy Case or in the other Ranching Cases in Nevada I have read where the rancher has won. The legal merits of each Case is different.

                    Rancher Bundy brought ALL of this and more (to come) upon himself.

                    Let me point out again that according to the Homestead Law, (sixpack this is for you) the Bundy Homestead (over which there is NO dispute) is 640 acres or one square mile. In dispute is the use by Rancher Bundy of using approximately 300,000 acres or about, 500 square miles of Taxpayer Land with paying his grazing fees for more than 20 years.

                    500 square miles!!!

                    This lying, cheating, greedy ranching bastard is going to go to jail for a very long time, if he isn’t killed in the Process. And he deserves whatever he gets!!!

                    I challenge anyone who supports Rancher Bundy to show me any Constitutional Right, or property right of Rancher Bundy’s that was violated by the Federal Government. 🙂

                  • Durango Kid,

                    You must be out of your mind. Bundy owned the property his family has been farming for the last hundred plus years through the simple right of “Adverse Possession”. Look it up before you spout off about how Bundy and his supporters had no right and no credibility in defending themselves!

                • “Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past.”

                  Orwell was dying when he wrote that book. He wrote it as prophecy, not as fiction. And he understood better than any, the *titanic* battle that will be fought, is being fought, moment by moment, for the control of all and everything that was, is, and will come to be.

                  Hes a goddamn saint if ever there was such a thing. He opened my eyes to what we all should be fighting for. Not freedom, or liberty, or any other abstract, high-minded idealistic claptrap. I am fighting for the very *survival* of the human *species* in every meaningful way I can. I hope you are too.

                  Because one guy doesn’t change the world, not by himself. The world is’t comprised of one person. Its comprised of many people. And it’s going to take a lot of them realizing just how much they have to lose to do anything to save it all. You stand to lose your job. Your friends. Your way of life. Your family. Your life. Your children.
                  Maybe not now. Maybe not in ten years. But slowly. And all the certainty of a drowning man. You will lose everything. Your future will be swallowed up by the blind ambition of blood thirsty madmen who look at you not as people, but as disposable assets to be traded, sacrificed out cold, for (their) greater good.

                  Unless of course you drop all pretense and realize this very moment, right now you are doing nothing by only talking. Go, to your bathroom, right now, look yourself in the mirror, look in your own eyes. What is it going to take you to realize things do not get done except by doing them?

                  I once said I had a plan. Its not a plan to save any of you, not directly. It is my personal plan. It is going to make me a lot of money, because I know wars arn’t about tactics. They are about logistics. But I don’t want to save me. I want to enable others to save themselves. I once said I’d go broke buying bullets and rope for others. I meant it.

                  I hope you see how desperate our situation really is.
                  You will either survive, or you and everyone you love will eventually perish.

                  DO you see now–see why I speak with such urgency? With such vehemence? The hour is later than you think.

            • A family member of mine recently got very interested in prepping and called me for advice. After answering multitudes of specific questions, I offered this advice. Don’t get so caught up that you sell your house and move into a cave. You can quickly become overwhelmed by all the purchases and planning. I had to learn how to strike a balance in my life so that I could continue to enjoy the life that I have now.
              I make a decision every Tuesday. I call it Doomsday Tuesday. If I have extra cash flow, I’ll make a point to bulk up on a few extra items or disaster preps. Some weeks it may be food, other weeks it’s just to fill a hole in my preps, like Iosat pills or maybe some more mylar bags or water filters.
              If I don’t have as much disposable income that week I’ll shift gears and see what I can acomplish with work. Those weeks I may print materials like recipes and other resources that could be invaluable, take inventory or clean a rifle. Whatever is needed.
              This has been a great way to keep myself prepared while not obsessing over it. There will always be chilling stories in the news. I’ve found that by adopting the Doomsday Tuesday formula for prepping, I have a nice and balanced approach without going broke and not burning out and moving on to another passion. Prepping can be a great hobby and can even isolate you from going through the little day to day hardships that most of us face, having extra provisions is a blessing in itself. It’s important to find a routine in any longterm endeavor that’s worth while.

          • Mt T. You got that right. Re: the schoolyard bully reminds me of our Government. Going around the world stiring up shit. Due to this we are well over due for several bloody noses. The bad part is the shit stirers will be safe in their bunkes paid for by us Tax payers while the public is left to fend for themselves. Had enough of this BS game?

            • WWTI, AMEN to your comments. I just got home late from another lousy day at work. I read this article and my blood gets boiling again. Before I start, Brandon this is one of the best articles about self-defense I’ve ever read; keep them coming. the schoolyard bully is the perfect analogy. We the people are the underdog and the government is the bully. The only way to stop the bully is knock the SHIT out of him; if that doesn’t work then KILL THE SOB. I speak from experience. I had enough fights in school back in the 60s and 70s to know. EVERYONE HAS THE GOD-GIVEN, NATURAL RIGHT TO SELF-DEFENSE. I DON’T CARE WHAT ANYONE ELSE TELLS YOU. ANYONE TRIES TO HURT YOU, TAKE THE SOB DOWN. NEVER, EVER, SUBMIT TO ANYONE WHO HAS BAD INTENTIONS TOWARD YOU, EVEN IF THAT PERSON WEARS ANY KIND OF UNIFORM. AND IF ANYONE TRIES TO HURT YOU FOR AN ACT OF SELF-DEFENSE, TAKE THAT SOB DOWN ALSO IF NECESSARY. I carry certain self-defense items with me everywhere I go that are probably illegal but I don’t care what anyone’s unconstitutional laws say. I’m going to get out of situations alive any way I consider necessary and don’t care about any questions of legality. My rant is over, had to let off that steam. Once again, Brandon, kudos to you for this top-notch article.

          • Trekker,


        • @everyone…prayers for Kula. Hawaii is getting slammed. Lets pray not too bad.

          • Yeah. Hopefull those hurricanes roll over to the North of Hawaiian Islands. Kula is up in the high ground. But the wind and rain will be beating down. Search for a Maui North shore web cam right now for live shots. Stay safe Kula!!

            • Kula, hang in there. We’ll be thinking of you.

              • Thanks guys, right now is 6:36 pm slightly cloudy, calm before the storm, supposed to start affecting us at about 10 pm through tomorrow afternoon, boarded up my house and my moms place, figure easier to fix screw and nail holes than broken glass and water damage. Were looking at heavy rains and damaging winds over 12 hours +/-

          • Poor Kula. Not one but two storms! God’s blessings on them.

          • Kula having a drink laughing at the wind,he was warned and well,has always been prepared as reasonably possible,will be on in a day or two to discount a little rain.

            • Visions of Lt. Dan in the crow’s nest….

              • i went to grade school, jr high and high school with lt dan.he was a riot back then.

              • I can see Kula, drink in hand telling this hurricane that it cannot sink this boat….

                The Value of a Drink

                ‘Sometimes when I reflect back on all the wine I drink
                I feel shame. Then I look into the glass and think
                about the workers in the vineyards and all of their hopes
                and dreams . If I didn’t drink this wine, they might be out of work and their dreams would be shattered.
                Then I say to myself, ‘It is better that I drink this wine and let their dreams come true than be selfish and worry about my liver.’
                ~ Jack Handy

                WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may leave you wondering what the hell
                happened to your bra and panties.

                ~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                ‘I feel sorry for people who don’t drink. When they
                wake up in the morning, that’s as good as they’re
                going to feel all day. ‘
                ~Frank Sinatra

                WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may create the illusion that you are tougher, smarter, faster and better looking than most people.

                ~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                ‘When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading.’
                ~ Henny Youngman

                WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may lead you to think people are laughing WITH you.

                ’24 hours in a day, 24 beers in a case. Coincidence? I think not.’
                ~ Stephen Wright

                WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may cause you to think you can sing.

                ‘When we drink, we get drunk. When we get drunk,
                we fall asleep. When we fall asleep, we commit no sin.
                When we commit no sin, we go to heaven. So, let’s all
                get drunk and go to heaven!’
                ~ Brian O’Rourke

                WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may cause pregnancy.

                ‘Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.’
                ~ Benjamin Franklin

                WARNING: The consumption of alcohol is a major factor in dancing like a retard.

                ‘Without question, the greatest invention in the
                history of mankind is beer. Oh, I grant you that the
                wheel was also a fine invention, but the wheel does
                not go nearly as well with pizza.’
                ~ Dave Barry

                WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may cause you to tell your friends over and over again that you love them.

                To some it’s a six-pack, to me it’s a Support Group. Salvation in a can!
                ~ Dave Howell

                WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may make you think you can logically converse with members of the opposite sex without spitting.

                And saving the best for last, as explained by Cliff Clavin, of Cheers.
                One afternoon at Cheers, Cliff Clavin was explaining the Buffalo Theory to his buddy Norm.
                Here’s how it went:

                ‘Well ya see, Norm, it’s like this… A herd of buffalo can only move as fast as the slowest buffalo. And when the herd is hunted, it is the slowest and weakest ones at the back that are killed first This natural selection is good for the herd as a whole, because the general speed and health of the whole group keeps improving by the regular killing of the weakest members. In much the same way, the human brain can only operate as fast as the slowest brain cells. Excessive intake of alcohol, as we know, kills brain cells. But naturally, it attacks the slowest and weakest brain cells first. In this way, regular consumption of beer eliminates the weaker brain cells, making the brain a faster and more efficient machine. That’s why you always feel smarter after a few beers.’

                WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may make you think you are whispering when you are not.

                • favorite polka song:

                  In heaven there is no beer.
                  That’s why we drink it here.
                  And when we’re gone from here,
                  Well our friends will be drinking all the beer.

                  www (dot) youtube (dot) com/watch?v=ntkC-o52weI

                • Reality is just a crutch for people who can’t handle alcohol.

            • Warchild, Kula sounds like a real survivor. I believe he’ll make it.

            • Lucky for everyone else,
              I dont drink, like being real clear headed!

          • Npgh

          • Npgh: Are you kidding! It’s barely a Cat 1, not much more than a day indoors. I spend over half of my life in hurricane country and this is just a big rain storm.

          • @ Kula,
            Batten down the hatches and hang on to yer hat, we’ll see ya on the other side.

          • Thank you much, has potential to cause a bunch of problems, especially since our climate is normally so mild.

      2. In this instance, we must kill the bully.

        • I want the bully dead …I want his family dead…dead dead dead.

          • i agree dead bully

        • FP, I agree. Take the bully out of the picture.

          • I saw a book once called “1001 Uses For A Dead Cat”. In the Spirit of that book, someone needs to write another book “1001 Uses For A Dead Bully.”

      3. Sadly TPTB through many decades and well planning have caused too much polarity, hate and racism in the USA. The meaning of selflessness was replaced by greed and selfishness even among the same classes of the society. People may come together during a natural disaster etc but in a long term everyone gets back to their trained brain washing that was planned through media, classrooms, and various religious sectors. In other words, they made most of us to get away from humanity and God.

        • Brandon Smith says….

          “For if we do not organize with our neighbors to protect our communities from all enemies, foreign and domestic, then who will?”

          My response to that….

          95% of all my neighbors within a one/two mile radius would claim they are christian and haven’t “got away from humanity and God”.

          I know most of them better than they know themselves. When push comes to shove they will follow the “status quo” and the goob-r-mint/LEs, or any other “official” looking group. If my name were to come up that i had tried to “organize”, anyone for anything, they (neighbors) would throw me and mine under the bus and start the motor, for TPTB thugs.

          As far as locals go, I trust no one except me and the little woman. We’ll keep to ourselves and our preps, and everyone else can leave us the hell alone.

          That is our friggin Oath Keepers — CPT.

          You guys take chances with folks that might turn out to be loosed tongue, back stabbin’, idiots, but not us.

          • I’ll second that. From whats around me, they’ll only get in my way. ‘Bout the only good they’d do is draw fire. Then I’d have to listen to their moanin’ out in the brush. Two or three days of their bodies out in the sun and I’ll have to pack up and move up wind. More work!…..Have at it.

            • Passin and PO’d, I have the same situation in my neighborhood. My neighbors won’t even prep for anything. When the balloon finally goes up, they better not come to me for shit.

              • My neighbor thinks “planning ahead” means storing her popsicles in my freezer, so her kids don’t eat them all while she’s gone…

          • I used to live in Alaska and I have to say it really is different up there. Most people outside of the two big cities, help each other. Sure there is always one jackass in the community, but the others come together to survive.
            Now the lower 48… it appears to be isolated clumps of folks which help each other.

            • Heres your racist joke of the day…

              One day a mother duck and a mother skunk were traveling down the road with theyre offspring. They came to a crossing and looked both ways to make sure it was safe to cross. It looked good so the proceeded and lo and behold a speeding car came flying down the crossroad and ran over mamma skunk and momma duck. The little duck started crying and the little skunk asked “whats the matter?” The little duck replied “well my momma just got killed and she never got a chance to tell me what I am” The little skunk said “don’t worry maybe I can help you” The little duck said “ok thanks” So the little skunk said ” well lets see, you have webbed feet and feathers and a bill, you must be a duck!” The little duck said “wow your right, gee thanks” They travelled a little further then the skunk started crying. The little duck asked “whats the matter?” The little skunk said “well my mamma died before she could tell me what I am too” The little duck replied “maybe I can help you too” So the little duck said ” ok lets see, your not all black and your not all white, and you stink pretty bad, you must be a mexican!” 🙂

              • Or Obama lol

              • Why was Obama a test tube baby?

                Because he isn’t worth a f%$k 🙂

              • Oh by the way, that joke was told to me by a mexican friend. I have many mexican friends too 🙂

          • @ Pissed

            Hmmm…Christianity as a blanket excuse for complacency…

            Could well be (in the main), most people LUV the status quo don’t they? Even if they have to be drug nose first through a trail of shit 64 miles long STILL they’ll tolerate it, will they not?…Yes, I know the type.

            To be sure, take MOTE of WHO you are consorting with at ALL TIMES, in EXTREMIS. Aside from that Brandon’s argument is both compelling and cogent: If we do not apply our ‘skills’ to a solution to THE PROBLEM then HOw will it be solved…put simply SOMEONE mut ACT…

            …The Journey of a thouand miles begins with a single step, does it not?

          • We here face the same problem. We trust extremely few people. Not because they arent nice or willing to help but because they are ignorant and uninformed and don’t really want to know whats going on. If you mention 911,oklahoma,boston etc. they smirk and look at you like you have 4 heads. No one wants to believe the govt. is pure evil or that bankers and secret organizations rule them. They listen to shit like hannity, Limbaugh, Beck and think they have the answers. They cannot see that all that crap is is a distraction tactic to keep you from looking into the root of the problems. Ever try and call into one of these shows with some truth and point out whos behind it all? It will never happen they just hang up on you because they arent there to point out truth they are there to occupy your mind with neocon garbage and keep you from thinking for yourself. I guess it’s just pure laziness letting these shills do your thinking for you. Anyway, we don’t share much info with people around here because it is bad opsec. I wish it was different but thats the way it is. The only thing one can do in this situation is make full use of force multipliers. A very dear friend of mine that recently died was a mormon and he told me that in his church maybe 10% of the people did any prepping at all. They just think the church will save them if tshtf. So for those of you who are in this boat I reccommend using as many force multipliers as possible. I am working on putting together a several piece article that will cover this but work is really picking up so it will take me some time. Being a lone wolf doesn’t mean defeat, it just means you have to use different methods 🙂

          • I often talk to strangers about our government, just to see how many are awake and I’m amazed at how many ARE awake! Not all, but certainly many! at friend’s house last night, watching TV, the news headlines said that only 16% of US citizens trust our govenment… 16%!!! Its true, a lot of old cronnies (and sometimes young people) believe everything the MSM says, but A LOT of people are awake!!!!

            • 16%! They must work for the government…

            • @anonymous, It doesnt matter how many people are awake or so called awake, what matters is WHAT ACTION ARE THEY TAKING. If they are just sitting on the couch doing nothing then they are no better off than the rest of the low batts. They may understand more than the average idiot but they will be in the same boat when tshtf. They will come for your supplies just like the other zombies. Or rat you out for a sandwich. So called awake people are just as big a threat as every other sheep if they are not doing shit to protect themselves. Action IS force, everything else is shit!

      4. It takes conviction. A personal pet peeve of mine is: how many “oath keepers” report their brothers in arms when they witness civil rights violations? That is why I feel oath keepers is nothing more than a mutual feel good organization.

        • I agree. In my experience it’s mostly vets that want to act tough and be in charge, but when push truly comes to shove will not bear any conviction to the ideals they profess. People think the military doesn’t brainwash you, but it does with American exceptionalism and loyalty pressure. When you’ve been part of a big gang for a significant part of your life, perhaps sacrificed much for a bullshit cause, it’s hard to accept the fact that you fought on the wrong side and probably did some bad things.

          • Yes another reason 1/3 of returning Vets are suicidal. When you got nothing else to lose, I suggest take a few of the bad rats out with ya.

            • I am guessing that Brandon Smith is a veteran with combat experience? No?

            • I tried to post this as anon but it would not be accepted. Was curious about Brandon Smith’s background. Is he ex-military with combat experience? I would guess so but have never seen the credentials. Thanks

          • We’re all legends in our own mind.

          • I’ll stick with immediate family and call it a day..

            Wasn’t it Oathkeepers who cut and ran when false intel told them impending “incoming” was headed their way at the Bundy ranch..

            We are surrounded by way too many so called patriots who will turn on a dime..

            Stay with immediate family and a few close trusted friends.

            It’s carried me through for 60 plus years..


          • I’ve talked to many VETS and they are angry at our government; they know what’s going on… that’s why the government treats them like crap. (vey little medical assistance, taking away their 2nd ammendment rights, and sometimes, murdering them!)

        • …like an emotional circle jerk?

        • …like an emotional circle jerk?

          • You’re gonna need a pivot man…..Eisen, your up!

      5. I am surprised we are not already seeing this in an active way along our southern border ???

        • We are. Many of the local ranchers / landowners have banded together and routinely run patrols. They call the Sheriff and let him make calls to the feds. When push comes to shove the guys on the border will (have) acted. Holes in the desert are cheap and plentiful.

          • Heard on the radio last week that the head of the Minute Men is asking for 30,000 guys to help back up the border patrol.

            • There ought to be a bounty for anyone who does government’s work. E.g. here near me is an elementary school with about 700 students. The county claims the school should maintain the land, the school claims they don’t as its shared with county. result? Two “playground fields have turned into prairies with 2-3 ft plants. Kids play on small clay and rock area up close to the school or in the parking lot for recess. If I go over there with a riding mower, then I should get the pay the county and school are taking. Same for border patrol and all other government functions. If private citizen or business can show its actually the one doing the job, then it should get the money.

          • Exactly. It’s the “3 S” method (shoot, shovel, shut up).

          • Call the feds??????????

            Minute Men to BACKUP the border patrol??

            Screw that, the feds want them here, don’t call them. And the border patrol is a bunch of lacky failures whoi are govt employees!

            Shoot the suckers and leavem llie there as a deterrent to others wanting to come here illegally.

      6. As a COP. I recommend that you do have a small army in your neighborhood that are like minded to protect yourself. Or to have a group to get together for protection of you and yours.
        When the SHTF you are on your own, that is just the way it will be.
        Your are correct don’t panic. This will get you killed ASAP.

        • Sgt Dale, what you think about that cop that says he don’t have to follow the Constitution? He makes you look like a chump. Do you rat on your corrupt fellow cops, or go along to get along? I’m sure you have been in that situation. Fill us in from your perspective. Thx.

          • WWT
            I remarked on this yesterday.
            HE IS AN ASS HOLE! He took an oath. If he doesn’t want to follow that oath he should turn in his badge and become a Libtard like Obullshit!

            • Good answer Sarg. !!

        • Only problem sarge is sometimes those who you think are likeminded ain’t. You might not find out ’till your ass is cheese or just buttermilk.

      7. And I say this as a vet.

        • Probably wouldn’t hurt. Most them are unwashed anyway. A lot of water and soap wouldn’t hurt. Besides them 21 virgins in paradise probably ain’t got next to soap and water for awhile either. Could be a little twangy.

      8. Anyone have experience making and using Colloidal Silver? I have been reading mixed reviews on the type of salt to use. I read earlier that sea salt is not effective. I would appreciate any input.

        BJ’s Wife 🙂

        • Hey the wife is suppose to give the BJ. Ha.

        • NEVER use salt!
          Just let it make longer!!!

          • Thats how we were instructed from the get go a few years ago, to use sea salt ???

        • To make silver I use only a few grains of pure kosher salt to a gallon of steam distiled water

          • I read that somewhere today. Pure kosher is supposed to be the best. Thanks

        • Before you start taking CS, look at Google Images of people who have taken it for an extended period.

        • CS: I’ve been making it and using it for several years.

          I took an old wall wort that was rated at 6 volts, cut the plug off and soldered two alligator clips on.

          I use a quart Mason jar and a plastic mayonnaise jar lid that I drilled two holes in to tightly fit the 12 gauge silver wires. Bend a loop in each wire and insert one in each hole.

          Fill the jar with distilled water and put lid with wires on. Attach alligator clips to wires making sure wires are about an inch or more apart at the bottom.

          Plug wall wort into receptacle. The 6 volt transformer will take about two hours to make a batch. Gently shake the jar to mix contents every so often. If the wires start to get full of black crud, unplug and pull wires and clean with green dish scratchy and replace.

          I use a simple laser pointer to determine when done to my suiting. Some use a multimeter to test resistance…personal preference…mine is KISS. When the laser beam is solid when shone through the solution, it is done.

          Store in a dark colored glass container. Drink a couple good slugs a day (couple oz).

          • PS…Forgot to mention that you should filter through a coffee in a funnel into your dark glass container

            • sheesh…coffee “filter” in a funnel…

              • Thanks…lol

        • Don’t use any salt. It will produce silver chlorides, which you don’t want. Use the cleanest steam distilled water you can find and your end product should be clear with a slight tinge of yellow throughout.
          molon labe

      9. The problem is there are so few that are trustworthy. Most crimes the victim know the perp. People do become jealious. little petty things lead to dissent. Familys commonly revel in another family members troubles. Join a group? Nope Im a loner and My chances are just as good as anyone elses. I know when SHTF im totally on my own. DTA Don’t Trust Anyone. Someone else letting me down or stabbing me in the back is one less thing for me to worry or wonder about.

        • Depends on how bad it gets. In full-blown SHTF you can’t get on without a group. If its an economic collapse (which I think is less serious than other people) I plan to be alone as well.

          • Acid, as long as you know that group like the back of your hands and trust them without question or reservation, OK. the only people I’ll trust in post-SHTF will be my family at the BOL in GA. They’re the ONLY ones I know I can trust. Otherwise, if I have to go it alone, then so be it.

        • Fuck sides man! What we need here is a little solidarity!

        • Wise words Old Guy. I seem to re-learn those lessons again, and again, and again.

      10. I have a climbing harness and a climbing helmet, as I am in Appalachia. I don’t want to bug out, but I may not have a choice. I’m far enough along with my preps that I feel like I can start indulging small probability concerns.

        • WOW Acid! You almost made me jump, just reading your comments. One minute your all laid back, cool as a cucumber, calm and collect and the next comment your like a ragin fool. I’m reading along picturing climbing a mountain in the Appalachias and all of a sudden were screaming and the Dalai Lamas. Trekker Out. Dalai Lama, he was a painter wasn’t he?

          • MT, I had to laugh. You were probably thinking about Salvadore Dali, the painter of surrealistic scenes.

            • laeagle did Dali do most of his paintings in China or Tibet? I bet he painted one of the Great Wall! Trekker Out.

        • Wow, in Appalachia, a yacht out on the Chesapeake (probably moored in Annapolis). I haven’t come across your sorry ass out on the bay and a good damn thing too. I’ll send your ass to the bottom and see how well you swim from all those intense sports you participate in. I catch your sorry ass around my Island and I’ll make sure you get a first hand tour of Bloody Point.

          • You talkin about SHTF and cant even take a youngster criticizing baby boomers for all the shit you fuckers have pulled?

            Grow up idiot.

            • You don’t criticize, you curse and swear at people and insult them.

              Grow up and learn the difference.

            • I see you fallin’ apart now. Let alone when it gets rocky. You’ll be soup-sandwich, a lump in a wet pile. Bout that time my redwing will be launchin’ your ass towards the uprights for the extra point.

            • Acid, sounds like you’re the one who never grew up. WE ‘baby boomers have knowledge AND experience you can never imagine.

              • Looks like AE’s funding got approved by NSA for site infiltration , he’s just a government agitator. Probably hired to harasss and gather intel on members of this group .

                What my limited HUMINT skills tell me:

                He claims he’s into extreme sports :
                Intel states he has some knowledge of climbing gear , closest climbing clubs to DC / maryland area West Virginia ( Appalachia) has some out door experience .

                Has knowledge with firearms : occasionally gets some stuff right mainly high tech systems mainly supressors may have some SPECWAR Experience but does not say enought to expose himself
                His stupid comments are a deception eliciting a response to gain intel. his grammar and spelling are spotless if you disregard the content BIG GIVE AWAY .

                Most people with deception may inadvertently give away their AO ,
                Woods , bay areas other things he’s talked about in past posts , he seems really fixated on age issues , he may be insecure due to the fact he works around older team members his age is probably 25- mid 30’s prime age for an analysts position . Probably hired under returning veterans program for a .gov agency .

                Objectives : he probably wants to impress supervisors by showing print outs of this site showing the amount of rile he can generate . Feels inadequate due to older more experienced analysts more frustrated he gets the more it shows in his posts he is basically a dept pest.
                Wants to prove himself . Wants to take it to the next step and meet some of us in meatspace but cannot get approval yet . He will continue trying to cultivate a relationship. ( pure coin intel pro handbook )

                HUMINT probable conclusion :
                Works for NSA has CIA .MIL INTEL training , Veteran GWOT( Ranger , SOT ) new hire .gov contractor , works in Falls Church Va , or Fort Belvouir area , goes to the mountains of West Virginia or West Maryland for outdoors experience probably belongs to a work climbing club.
                May live in the tide water Virginia.or Chesapeake Maryland area .
                He is a GOVT security intel gathering operative. ( but I could be Full of S**t what do I know I am a former grunt )

                man on the inside could probably tell you more ,

                Imagine his suprise when he eventually finds out most of us on here are current or former .GOV
                workers , he going to be a very sad panda .




                Semper Fi 8541

                • Night Breaker.

                  Gov. workers?

                  You never know. Hahahaha!



        • YA , well , the muzzies are killin all the tibetens , so , i guess the chinese aint doin so good a job of supporting them .

        • Everyone, the all caps and calling us old people sure remind me of eisenkreuz.

          • That’s why I didn’t even read his comments after seeing all the thumbs down– figured it might be old Eisen in disguise– why feel miserable by someone’s nasty comments– ain’t worth it.

            • (Eisen was so extremely ignorant, no matter what we may or may not have said would’ve made no difference– he was simply too hard headed and ignorant to be pulled up).

        • You’re in Appalachia? Oh crap.

        • You’re in Appalachia? Oh crap.

      12. Lone wolfs make the best snipers. Be like the Lone Ranger didn’t even have a chance to thank him. “Then Came Bronson” vigilante badass one man clean up crew.

        • WWT ,
          But you still have to have a chain of command for mission planning and intel purposes if you do not know the patterns and actions of OPFOR you are taking unexceptable risks .
          This is why we work in teams ( spotter, acquisition targeter ) also you have to sleep some times
          You can’t work a radio or gear as effectively alone , solo mission are the most dangerous and rarely done, two people is considered the most effective small team element it’s always good to have someone else looking out for errors and enemy action NO ONE IS 100% EFFECTIVE ALL THE TIME. Even with excellent Fieldcraft skills it’s increadably risky to go it alone.

          Semper Fi 8541

      13. I personally think that Oath keepers is a fine organization and one that I am proud to be a part of. You see, I am former Military and a former LEO. I think that it is great that they constantly work to remind those of us who took the Oath to defend the constitution that we are still bound by that Oath.

        I Also agree with Sgt. Dale that we need to build relationships with those around us that are of Like mind. I honestly don’t believe that when it hits the fan, that anyone will be able to make it on their own. You need other people to help with Security and food gathering. There is safety in numbers my friend. Don’t try to make it on your own! Be a part of something bigger than your own ego. They are out there, you just have to take the time to find them. God bless all of us!

        Sgt. Bob

        • Sgt. Bob
          Just going to let you know that there is a lot of great folks here on this site. There are some you can debate with and they are very smart folks, and it is a lot of fun to talk with them. I have learned a lot. 30 years and retired LEO, but working part time.
          On the down side there are a couple of Trolls her also. I just see their names read their blogs and more than 50% of the time I just give them a thumbs down and don’t debate them.
          Again WELCOME

        • Sgt. Bob, welcome aboard. You make valid points but trying to find trustworthy people these days…..easier said than done.

      14. Sssssh….don’t tell Glen Beck about this article or he might start to cry. ( sarcasm/sort of?)

        The only SHTF events I’ve been in were major hurricanes and yes everyone pulled together for the most part. If what I think the Lord has planned for us next year (2015), well let’s just hope that we are all barking at the moon. I would rather my ammo rust in 10-20 years than to have to actually use it.

      15. I based my comments as a vet and trainer for local PD.

      16. I will go it alone,will try and help others and do my damnedest to stop murder/rape if it occurs in my sight whether perpetraitors(my new word!)in or out of uniform.I really do not know how I would do in a combat situation and thus do not want others counting on me in a team sense.I can be counted on to help in any way I can which may mean Warchilds fairly quick demise,as have said many times have made peace with that.

        • When reading this article I thought I wouldn’t comment…

          However… your comment and expressed resolve is what is to be feared by the ptb and frankly is…

          For one to accept what we all know is inevitable and speak of it plainly…succinctly in pursuit of what is right…terrifies them….

          WHEN enough like minded defend the defenseless and there is witness to such acts…natural cohesion occurs.

          It’s the nature of living… kudos…

      17. We the living that still maintain the spark of the nature of man will always fight and see injustice for what it is. Half of the American population has been trained to extinguish their own nature, they’ve discarded it like a worn out coat believing they’re now somehow safe from the laws of nature. Many sit locked in dull intellectual combat with their smart phones, like a horse with blinders on they try see the whole world threw a 2×4 window. We all see them in the malls, airports and on the streets, these people are lost to us. And when man through his ignorance or nature through its sense of justice decides to send us to ruin the outcome will be the same, the strong of heart will survive and start again.

        I look at people today and imagine if they even contemplate how quickly and how miserable the world will be when TSHTF. Are they ready to walk miles for water, are they ready to walk for days into the woods hunting and foraging until they’re so tired their willing to sleep on the ground were they stand?
        What makes us so different that we choose to live in the real world and see it for what it is, and not fall for what has been presented?

        In the end many of these people who focus on the world through a straw may be useful, my hope is they throw themselves like fodder on the PTB allow we the living time to prepare and organize for the real fight to come.

        Just thinking out loud.

        • “my hope is they throw themselves like fodder on the PTB”

          I’m thinking maybe they’ll just stand there, iphone in hand, thinking…”is there a web site for what to do when someone is shooting at me?” Oh well, just tweet it…

          /sarcasm off/

      18. news article. ht tp://;_ylt=AwrBEiHz6uNTuEkAfknQtDMD

      19. Dutch Oven:

        Breakfast Muffins

        1/2 lb butter, softened 2 c sugar
        2 c boiling water 5 tsp baking soda
        4 eggs 1 qt buttermilk
        5 c flour 6 c rasin bran

        Warning: This makes 6 dozen. Can be refrigerated for up to 6
        weeks covered.
        Combine water and baking soda. Allow to cool slightly. Cream
        together butter and sugar. Mix in eggs. Gradually add flour and
        buttermilk alternatly. Blend in water mixture. Mix in rasin bran.
        Bake in 375 oven for 25-30 min.

        Biscuits & Gravy

        1/2 lb ground sausage 3 tbs chopped onion
        2 tbs flour 2 c hot milk
        black pepper to taste

        Prepare Homemade Biscurit recipe. Brown sausage and onion
        together. Pour off excess grease. Stir in flour. Slowly add milk
        while stirring. Cook until thickened. Serve biscuits split with
        gravy on top.

        Blueberry Muffins

        2 c flour 1/2 c Milk
        2/3 c sugar 1/2 c melted butter
        1 tbs baking powder 3/4 c blueberries
        1/2 tsp salt 1/4 c sliced almonds
        1/2 tsp nutmeg 1 tbs sugar
        2 eggs, beaten

        Combine dry ingredients. Save 1 tbs of mixture. Combine eggs,
        milk and butter. Add to dry ingredients. Stir until welll
        moistened. Toss blueberries with reserved flour mixture. Stir
        into batter. Spoon into greased muffin pans. Sprinkle with
        almonds and 1 tbs sugar. Bake 15 min at 400

        Crustless Quiche

        1/4 lb Butter 3 oz Cream cheese
        1/2 c Flour 2 c Cottage Cheese
        1/2 dz Eggs 1 tsp Baking Powder
        1 c Milk 1 tsp Salt
        1 lb Monterey Jack Cheese 1 tsp Sugar

        Melt butter and add flour. Cook into a light rue. Beat eggs,
        milk, 3 cheeses , baking powder, salt and sugar together. Stirr
        into rue until well blended. Pour into dutch oven and bake 350
        for 45 min.

        Chili Rellano Casserole

        2 lg cans whole green chillies 1 lb chedder cheese
        1 lb Montrey Jack Cheese 1 can (13 oz) evaporated milk
        3 tbs flour 4 eggs, seperated
        salt & Pepper

        Place 1/2 of chillies in bottom of greased casserole dish, cover
        with all of chedder cheese. Top with rest of chillies. Cover with
        all of jack cheese. Beat egg whites until stiff. Beat yolks with
        flour, milk, salt and pepper in large bowl. Fold egg whites into
        yolk mixture. Pour over casserole. Bake in 325 dutch oven for 45
        minutes or until knife inserted in center comes out clean.
        By Rosie Highers, Ft Walton Beach, Fl

        Squirrel Stew

        2 squirrels, cleaned, cut 2 c bouillon
        into 6 pieces each leafy tops of 2 stalks of celery
        1/8 lb salt pork, 1/2″ cubes 2 c fresh lima beans
        2 tbs flour 2 lg ripe tomatoes, peeled
        1 tsp salt 1 c fresh corn kernels
        1/4 tsp pepper 1 tsp worcestershire sauce
        2 lg onions, thinly sliced 1-2 tbs flour

        Fry salt pork until very crisp, then remove pieces from the pan.
        Dredge squirrel in seasoned flour and saut in hor fat until brown
        on all sides. When nearly brown, add onions and cook until soft.
        Place meat in dutch oven, together with broth and celery tops.
        Cover and bake at 350 for 1 hour. Remove celery tops, add lima
        beans, tomatoes, corn and worcestershire sauce. Cover and bake
        until vegetables are tender-about 30 min. Skim off excess fat and
        thicken gravy with flour and 1/2 c cold water. Serve hot topped
        with crisp pork cracklings.

        River Rat at the ready!!! NOMI///MOLON LABE!!

        • Rat … I’m salivating like you wouldn’t believe over that squirrel stew. Thanks!

        • Thank you RR.
          Great sounding recipes except for the tree rat. Is therre anything I could substitute for squirrel?

          • Skeptic: Be creative; rabbit, ground-hog, etc. just have fun.

            River Rat at the ready!!! NOMI///MOLON LABE!!

          • a regular rat would probably work OK, or maybe a possum.

        • BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH!! 🙁

      20. Corn Meal Mush

        1 qt boiling water 1 c cornmeal

        Bring water to boil with salt. Slowly stir in cornmeal. Cook 20
        min stirring often.

        Hasty Pudding
        (Fried Cornmeal Mush)

        1 recipe cornmeal mush flour
        1 tbs oil

        Mold mush and refrigerate overnight. Slice into 1/2″ slices.
        Flour lightly and pan fry in small ammount of oil until brown,
        about 15 min a side.

        Indian Pemmican

        2 lb dried beef 1 c rasins
        1/2 c yellow rasins Beef suet

        Using ablender, mince meat to a fine pulp. Stir in rasins. Chop
        just enough to break up rasins. Turn into bowl and mix well. Pour
        melted suet over top, using only enough to hold beef and rasins
        together. Allow to cool slightly. Turn onto a jelly roll pan and
        allow to cool completely. Cut into strips and then into bars
        about 1″ wide and 4″ long. Store in ziplock baggs. These bars can
        be stored for several months.

        River Rat at the ready!!! NOMI///MOLON LABE!!

      21. VOTE FOR 2016!

        Rick Perry for President

        Sarah Palin for Vice President

        Jessee Ventura for Secretary of State

        VOTE FOR 2016!

        • @AmMom
          I beg to differ with you. I say yes to Sarah, maybe to Rick and a big fat Minnesota NO to Ventura, what a schmuck!

          • sinner , i will endure the thumbs down with ya on ventura. HELL NO !

            • Ventura schmentura. What a boob. I couldn’t stand to listen to his voice for years on end if he was high ranking.

        • Ventura is a grade-F douche bag. Always has been always will be, his latest actions prove that in spades. I wouldn’t vote for that guy for any reason at all, ever. He needs to be shunned by the good decent people of this country. He deserves his sh***y reputation, after all, he earned all by himself.

        • Oh hell yes. Perry for president. Perry won his first election to the Texas house as a democrat. And according to news accounts and Perrys campaign, Perry served as Al Gore’s Texas Campaign Chairman in 1988.

          As usual, Americans are scraping the bottom of the barrel. Sarah Palin and Ventura, Hell No.

          Quite a country we have when that is the best we can drum up. Erg!

        • The Democrats could dig up Ted Kennedy and beat that bunch hands down.

          • Why not Ted,hell he’s been sober over 5 years now,deserves a second chance!

        • American Mom, I’ll have to pass on all 3. too late for the ballot box. time for the cartridge box.

      22. Health Tip of the Day

        Researchers say Vitamin D deficiency raises Alzheimer’s risk

        this is a VERY significant study
        MANY adults have very low levels of vitamin D
        get your level checked at least once a year

        maintaining a proper level of Vit D
        is an easy way to SIGNIFICANTLY reduce your risk of
        getting Alzhemimers

      23. first confirmed case of ebola in Mexico
        from someone who had just returned from a trip to Africa…07#&edit-text=

        • OMG– Mexicans are now going to Africa! ps: yes I am drinking tonight.

      24. I only pray to have the strength and wisdom to do the right thing when TSHTF

      25. Ebola: The Next Great Pandemic?

        “Well, this outbreak is not in the deepest areas of Africa, it’s on the west coast, a more populated and easily traveled area. As a matter of fact, 10,000 people from the area travel to Houston, Atlanta, or New York every three months. With air travel around the globe in 24 hours, this virus COULD travel fast.”

        The CDC said today that they do expect outbreaks in the US
        but the head of the CDC rejected calls to stop air travel from the affected countries

        • 12 Monkeys

      26. i dont need no stinking community, i have plenty of stored food, water cash and these:

        12 gauge 3″ 3 Ball and Chain Magnum rounds. guarranteed to make all but the undead move on after 1st shot.

        • @Lena
          Funny how there has been a huge run on 9mm, .22LR, and other calibers, but I’ve always been able to get both 12&20ga buck. OO&#4 in 12ga and #2&3 in 20ga

          Love my Mossbergs! You can get 2-3 for the price of a Mini-14 or M1A, the 590A1 is a super, plus Choate makes a mag extension for the 835. Put a “Dead Coyote” choke on a 835 loaded with #4 buck and you’ll get a nice pattern out to 70 yards most of the time.

        • Wow Kula glad to see you here. Good luck out there. Stay high n dry. Everybody is probably hunkered down by now. Looks like a ghost town? I bet a few crazys out on N shore love in it. Aloha!!

          • Thank you, were just kicking it watching flintstones, its dead calm outside,

        • Good to see you here, kula! Hoping you dodge the storms!

          • Me too, but honestly we are way over due

        • Good to see you here, kula! Hoping you dodge the storms!

        • Kula, glad to hear you’re surviving. I knew we’d hear from you. don’t let the crazies get you. best wishes.

          • Today was a burner, spent the day with my bags on packing plywood around, better safe than sorry,

      27. Oh no! What am I going to do?
        What are we going to do?
        What are you going to do for me?

        That will be the “Progressive” stages by those who fail to prepare. We can join together in like minds but what exactly are the skills they posses. It gives me great pause for as many comments I have read here.
        It was once said, not to trust nobody over thirty. It now could be said, shoot anyone under fifty. Hahahaha!
        I have to side with the Old Guy. I think, Old Guy does have a couple of friends he can trust but keeps at arms length. Tired of everybody’s else’s bullshit. I am gear to be self sufficient. If I can get to my gear it is game on. If I don’t? Wasn’t meant to be.

      28. airborne transmission of ebola ?
        no evidence of that

        droplet transmission on the other hand ?

        Ebola Guidance for Airlines

        “Provide the sick person with a surgical mask (if the sick person can tolerate wearing one) to reduce the number of droplets expelled into the air by talking, sneezing, or coughing.”

      29. Ebola’s spread to US is ‘inevitable’ says CDC chief

        Washington (AFP) – Ebola’s spread to the United States is “inevitable” due to the nature of global airline travel, but any outbreak is not likely to be large, US health authorities said Thursday…205903838.html

        • link is not working…

      30. Prayers your way, Kulafarmer.

        Stay safe.

        • Thank you,

      31. I agree with this article, but am saddened by the references to the clown in Bunkerville using politics and religion to try and justify his sheer selfish stupidity.
        I do not support him or his family in anyway whatsoever. They are liars, cheats and thieves of the American taxpayers. That’s all, they are not “victims” of a governmental over reach or tyranny.
        Now, we do need do band together as neighbors and find common ground to get together on, that IS a fantastic idea. Be the one in your own neighborhood to start it. it works, we have great neighbors and we do watch out for each other and each others families. There is safety in numbers, especially like minded PREPARED numbers.

      32. I see it this way, was never handed anything in this life. All that I have was self earned. I always could count on myself for what needed to be done. Sure I have helped others along the way , but they cannot return the favor when they were seldom asked by me. I guess to just team up with those that you can trust your life with & vice versa.Just truly ac acknowledge your OWN strengths & weaknesses..

      33. Oathkeepers?

        LOL…Don’t be fooled. The oath takers are ALWAYS the ones who load the paddy wagons/busses/trains.

      34. kulafarmer-earthquake today and two hurricanes headed to you. Keep safe and check in when you can.

      35. Kula, I got no doubts you got it under control.

        • Did my part, rest is up to the man upstairs

      36. Every tactic we can think of has already been war gamed on a computer some where. All reactions or possibilities have been gamed also. Think of it this way, banding up with a group may land you in jail. Not banding up your out numbered and in any case out supplied. This will be a war of the flea. One is hardly noticed, ten get some attention, one hundred have folks freaking out, thousands get full attention, and millions will kill whatever they chose to consume. Question is-How to get millions to follow a leader. If you can figure that out, then it will be easy to turn the tide.

      37. You know its something.
        I was born in the 50s.
        Taught to believe in GOD.
        To love and respect one another.
        To Helped one another.
        America stood strong, and was a model for the world.
        Work hard for what you believe in.
        Trust your Government.
        Trust the laws and its enforcement officers
        Serve and protect your Country with pride.
        Believe in your Country and the CONSTITUTION ….****
        Hunting,fishing,camping,target shooting hiking was America.
        Raise your family with the same good values.
        We were a Country that loves our freedoms.


        Everything seems meaningless I am sorry to say.
        Its all being flushed down the toilet.
        Unless I am missing something ?

        All that I can say now I guess is it looks like this.
        WE THE PEOPLE are now about to take the GLOVES OFF ????

        GOD HELP US.


        • Your not alone my friend,
          I feel the same way, and know many others who do too.

        • AMEN..

      38. Remember the Braveheart scene where Robert the Bruce betrays William Wallace? When the shtf we will see that happen again and again. I meet Bosnians around St. Louis and always ask if they were there in the early 90s ( see Selco’s One man told me the hardest part was not the bombs, bullets, lack of food, etc. the hardest part was watching his best friend try to kill his father and brother over a meal.

        The point is, I like most of my neighbors, but I don’t trust any of them in teotwawki.

      39. Organized defense?!I say perhaps time for organized/disorganized offense! ht tp:// ,read this and tell me I am wrong(warning,I won’t listen),this nonsense is getting out of hand.I will say this happened to a family member/friend will go on offense if charges not brought,and I would never use a firearm and feed the anti firearm groups but how ever done this bullshit needs to end.

      40. Organized defense?!I say perhaps time for organized/disorganized offense! ht tp:// ,read this and tell me I am wrong(warning,I won’t listen),this nonsense is getting out of hand.I will say this happened to a family member/friend will go on offense if charges not brought,and I would never use a firearm and feed the anti firearm groups but how ever done this bullshit needs to end.

      41. YAWN……HA HA HA…REALLY?…make sure you got some K-Y Jelly in your bug out bag……………ha ha ha……….yawn.

        • YAWN,

          Is the K-Y for you ?
          Sorry I am straight.

      42. Wondering what you can do to help your family, community and Republic? If you live in the southeast one thing you can do is check out SECOM.
        Get involved with a Community based Org where most everyone can get involved and make a difference.
        SECOM is a Constitutional Militia with the focus of reaching out to our communities and arming our communities with the tools for education , defense , prepping and Survival.

        SECOM is looking to reinstate the sense of community within our communities.
        Get involved locally!
        What is SECOM?
        We are the
        Southeast Constitutional Militia.
        We The People-In Full Support of Constitutional Ideals.

        Who We Are!
        We are simply… American. Our ancestry might be African, Bulgarian, Columbian, Danish, Ethiopian, French, German, Haitian, Irish, etc…. but yeah, American

        As Americans we believe in one simple, undeniable TRUTH. That TRUTH is that rights are bestowed on ALL people at the moment they are perceived as such.

        We Americans have a true and sincere love of the country our thinking, researching, struggling and truly honorable founding fathers envisioned and ultimately designed for us. We believe in the truths that they found during spirited and often heated discussions of the Philadelphia Convention of 1787. We believe and we love.

        As such, we do not view the multiple violations of these truths as minor infractions to be continuously tolerated or excused. We will no longer be fooled by the flash and flame of well spoken liars bent on the intoxicant of power.

        We pledge our lives to protect “We the People” whenever and wherever it is called for by natural law. We sternly caution those that have forgotten that we have agreed to be ruled only by consent and see themselves as our masters.

        Violence is contrary to natural law, except in survival and defense. We do not offer violence as a solution to anything and will not accept members that do! We train fervently only in order to survive the violence so often offered by others.

        Check the content here and judge for yourself.

        Welcome to a home for thinking patriots. …
        SECOM on facebook
        We are SECOM

        Still dont know the truth about Constitutional Militias and how they are our friends and not the enemies that the MSM paints them to be..

        Here is a little history and some facts on the 2nd Amendment and Constitutional Militias… for those that are not familiar with the constitution and US history.
        This is the best video i have seen explaining the The Second Amendment and the facts about it. Educate yourself , friends and family. Make this viral today. We might need it soon.

        Who is the Militia. You , Me, any citizen that will protect the constitution , their family and their community.

        is Dedicated to the Preservation of our Freedom, the Security of our Rights and the Restoration of our Constitution to its rightful place as the LAW of our great Republic.




        What is the Militia?
        As defined by our founding forefathers, the militia is defined as “the whole people”.
        It is every able-bodied citizen who is not disqualified by criminal conviction or mental
        …defect, except those few persons who hold public office, such as judges, legislators, et

        Concept of Militia
        The Citizen Militia IS:
        A deterrent, defensive force. A first response mechanism, to assist
        in times of disaster (i.e. hurricane, floods, etc). A chain of command, which we can use to offer leadership and assistance to our fellow citizens, community and families.
        A legacy passed from our forefathers to us; and from us to our posterity.
        A realization and practice of our God given Rights, Liberties, Duties and
        Responsibilities. An organization of, by and for the Constitution of the united States, and the people whom they serve.

        The Citizen Militia is NOT:
        An offensive force. A racist or subversive group. A private army subject to the dictates of any individual, corporation, or other private group.
        An organization formed for sustained combat operations (a ‘standing army’). To be used as a forum or launching point to any particular or religious

        Who Can Join ?
        Any citizen of The Republic who a legal residence in the state and has resided in the
        state for at least, the past 6 months, and is not otherwise disqualified from being a member of the ‘militia-at-large’. The Volunteer Militia exists by law under the Constitution. Amendment II
        “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”

        Who Belongs To The Militia?
        Doctors Policemen Firemen Lawyers Sheriffs Deputies Pastors Teachers EMT’s
        Plumbers Salesmen Nurses Electricians Truckers Students Housewives Construction Workers Mill Workers Carpenters Mechanics And the list goes on.!!!

        To secure and practice all of our Rights and Liberties; To open ranks to all citizens who love Liberty without regard to one’s race, creed, religion or gender; and to deny participation to those who seek to harm the Republic, discredit us, or our goals;
        To be an effective deterrent to tyranny;
        To clearly state that we are committed to a posture of defense, and do not advocate the unlawful overthrow, targeting of or overthrow of our form of government by any person(s);
        To uphold the just and lawful statutes of the nation as stated in the US Constitution; To declare no enemies; yet be mindful of those who declare us to be enemies;
        To teach the correct, unvarnished history of our Republic and our State, the formation or our Constitution and Bill of Rights; To teach & promote participatory
        To promote the safe and responsible use of Arms for the protection of our families, our property, our American way of life and our republican form of government; To teach that our Liberties and Rights are not limited to those which are enumerated in the Bill of Rights; and are granted by our Creator.

        To assist duly elected, sworn and bonded public officials in time of emergency or in the defense of our God – given Rights, Liberties, and the Constitution(s).

        It is the goal of all Militia members to be prepared and never needed, as opposed to being needed and not prepared

        What Will You Do?
        I do not care what color your skin is. I do not care what God you worship. I do not care if you are rich or poor, city resident or country boy, male or female. If you are an American who loves his country and is willing to… fight for what you believe in, you are welcome to join me.
        There is an old saying that resistance to tyranny is the truest obedience to God. I am one who believes this. And because I do believe it I am prepared to pay any price, bear any burden to assure the survival of Freedom in the land that I love.
        What do you believe in, Americans? What do you stand for? What will you risk when this fight is forced upon us? What are you going to do?

      43. Be safe! Be prepared! Be ever vigilant!

        Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one’s life for his friends. John 15:13
        Between natural disasters , rising fuel prices, food prices, inflation, crime, soon to be food shortages ( due to colder than normal weather , and
        transportation problems ) then the fuel and food riots… time is almost up
        to get even your basic supplies ready and a plan of action. Equally as
        important is finding other like minded people you trust as close as possible
        to you. There is strength and safety in numbers. So check the below links to
        find those close to you and network
        Prepare by making essential preparations for yourself and your family to not just survive, but to thrive, if and when things get very difficult:

        Prepare food, water, clothing (especially for growing children/grandchildren) & shoes, fuel, essential drugs & medicines/vitamins, toiletries, medical supplies, guns, ammunition (when you run out, your guns are useless, and if you don’t have enough, you can’t keep your skills honed, so buy plenty),(gold & silver), and other essentials. If you have the resources, acquire enough for friends, relatives, neighbors, and other peers.

        Get your house in order, if it isn’t already. Prepare temporally and spiritually. Ensure that you will be part of the reason that God will side with us, because we’ve chosen to side with Him!
        For more preparedness info … PLEASE check the sites i help admin… If you have ANY questions at all please ask..

        Osceola County Mercury One .
        Mercury One website.
        Constitutional Militia links
        SECOM on facebook
        We are SECOM
        Main 9-12 Preppers Site
        9-12 prepper on Freedomworks
        The Chruch me and my family attend. Cornerstone Family Church

        All you can to is hope for the best but prepare for the worst. Of course
        putting your trust and faith in God.

        Good people, families , moms, dads, grandparents, normal people, just
        preparing for what we see is coming. We are willing to help others, in our
        communities but we have to work together. Preparing both spiritually and
        phsyically. “Every Race, Every Tribe

        If you havent prepared for yourself and your family yet… do something
        now… time is up!


        support the USA and protect the Constitution! “Every Race, Every Tribe

      44. I found this article to be “eye opening”. Not for me at this point, but to others who might believe pacifism is the only way and that the average citizen can’t stand up for themselves. Highlighting the Bundy Ranch situation is an example in recent history that can act as a guide to others in this country that they don’t have to take it sitting down from some of the “jack booted” govt. thugs when they try to trample our rights. Elitists are wary of pushing too far at this point because most Americans have about had it with the “system” that protects the Elitists and their way of life (mainly screwing us out of our possessions). People are slowly starting to wake up and I for one am happy for it. Keep the articles coming Brandon. In my opinion you are a true Patriot guiding others back to their “God Given and Constitutional” rights!

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