Obama: “I’m Not Concerned About a Double Dip Recession”

by | Jun 7, 2011 | Headline News | 77 comments

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    Despite an obviously collapsing economy, monetary system and fiscal condition, President Obama is not at all concerned:

    I’m not concerned about a double dip recession. I am concerned about the fact that the recovery that we’re on is not producing jobs as quickly as I want it to happen.

    Prior to this month we had seen three months of very robust job growth in the private sector. And, so we were very encouraged by that. This month you still saw job growth in the private sector but it slowed down. We don’t yet know if this is a one month episode or a longer trend.

    Obviously we’re experiencing some headwinds.

    The overall trend that we’ve seen over the last fifteen months…two million, over two millions jobs created over the past fifteen months, a rebounding of the manufacturing sector in the United States that’s exemplified by the recovery of the big three auto makers here, all indicates that we have set a path that will lead us to long term economic growth.

    But we’ve still got some enormous work to do. As long as there are some folks out there who are unemployed, looking for work, then every morning that I wake up I’m going to be thinking about how we can get them back to work.

    What, no mention of home sales, home prices, rising food stamp participation or the fact that the Treasury department just dipped into government pensions to the tune of $80 billion to cover Federal expenses?

    Where to begin…

    With regards to robust job growth, President Obama must be speaking to the majority of Americans who, instead of spending some time learning the details, prefer to tune in to whatever unreality television happens to be on that night. While we “officially” created jobs each of the last three months, it’s important to note that we are nowhere near creating enough jobs to offset new workers who are entering the marketplace. We need to create a minimum of 250,000 jobs per month just to break even. That’s not happening.

    Take, for example, our report that 85% of graduating college students will not be able to find a job when they get out of school this year. That’s a whopping 1.7 million degreed individuals with nowhere to go but back to mom and dad’s basement.

    On top of that, those “official” statistics being cited by the President woefully underestimate the reality of the situation. All those folks who lost their jobs in 2008 and early 2009 aren’t even counted because they are no longer receiving benefits. We really have no idea what that number amounts to, but at last glance it was upwards of one million.

    Finally, we have government employment, which is a complete disaster right now and will get worse going forward. Over 350,000 government jobs have been lost through fiscal year 2011 and another 450,000 pink slips are going to be handed out in 2012. Within the next few years, there will be a total of some two million layoffs in local, state and federal public employment sectors.

    Realistically we’re at Great Depression unemployment numbers and anyone who argues differently has their head in the sand. Job growth as described by the President is pure and utter conjecture.

    While President Obama looks at the big three to promote positive manufacturing growth, we noted in Economic Double Dip – Or Double Tap? that manufacturing is collapsing. There is a simple reason for why this is happening – there’s no real job growth and without jobs people can’t buy consumer goods. With prices of food and energy reaching near all time highs, most discretionary spending has evaporated and his been forced to cover essential personal living expenses.

    The President is trying to empathize with “some folks” who are currently out of work, and insists he wakes up every morning thinking about how he can help them. If this were the case, then why did The Hill report just yesterday that the President stopped receiving his morning economic briefings? Say one thing, do another. Typical of a politician who takes a monthly vacation with the family and spends millions of dollars on hotel rooms, shopping trips and luxurious dinner arrangements. To be clear, it’s more than just a few “folks” who are out of work – closer to the 20 million mark, and that’s using official U-6 statistics.

    President Obama calls these headwinds. This is no moderate breeze we’re experiencing here. We’re actually sailing straight into hurricane force winds, and the President and his administration are not warning anyone to batten down the hatches.

    He may tell us he’s not concerned about a double dip recession, and officially it will not be called that because we are still showing positive GDP growth. But, as was pointed out by Bert Dohmen of the Wellington Letter, this is due strictly to inflation and nothing else. As the prices for goods and services increase, the official GDP numbers show that we are spending more and subsequently that the economy is growing. Adjust for inflation, and we’re in negative territory and have been for a while – aka recession.

    There is no path to economic growth. It’s exactly the opposite. We will continue to shed jobs to cheaper foreign slave labor because no one in decision making circles is willing to take on China, not to mention they get tons of lobbyist donations to ensure favorable status is given to countries that will provide cheaper labor. Small businesses, already under extreme financial pressure, will get no reprieve in the future. In fact, it will only get worse with higher taxes, more regulation and forced health care options. Our dollar will continue to depreciate in terms of purchasing power – this simply cannot be denied given the trillions upon trillions of dollars that are being directly and covertly pumped into the system. And, as politicians on the left and right continue to erode our Constitutional protections, with property rights being of fundamental importance, capital will continue to shift outside of the US over the long-term, seeking safety elsewhere.

    The path we’re on is one of ruin, not growth or prosperity.

    President Obama should be concerned, but he isn’t. He is willingly engaging in exactly those policies that will further erode our liberty and wealth as a nation.

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      1. Of course he is not concerned. His life will not be affected by what’s up ahead.

        • Indeed, he is partying it up like it is 1999.

          • Four day work week & off on vacation. It’s good to be the King while the the rest of the country is going down the tube!

            • Shrimp on the treadmill. How’s that Whitehouse garden doing BO-mebell?

        • You got it 100% there Chuckster. Tee times, concerts, vacations, best of the best for the Obomination Family as they live happily ever after.

          The Trickster in chief done got his and that’s that.

          Rest of y’all can go to hell.

        • I really wouldn’t be to sure of that.In 1914 Russia there where men who had power wealth and land, In 1919 many of these men where waiting tables in Paris.

          • Some of them even wound up shot by firing squad along with their family, burned, hacked to pieces, and thrown down an abandoned mine. Sounds like a nice precedent!

            • Yeah, like it or not, Obama and all his bigot cronies WILL get their punishment!

              ***DEMONIC LAUGH!!!***

      2. How many part time employees did McDonalds hire? Can you imagine the long lines at the drive thru without my health care help? Were going to need a new economic advisor. Send that one back to teach economics. Nothing but a bump in the road for a few unemployed out there.

      3. http://www.cnbc.com/id/43306552

        According to Mr West, the dollar is going to rise and gold will fall and all is well in the land of unicorns, rainbows and lollipops

      4. hey bo, news flash for ya…a longer trend would be a double dip your not worried about. Actually everyone knows the truth is that we are still in the first recession/depression….there is no double DIP cause we have never came back up to dip back down…only a continual decline

        Politics are nothing but watching WWF and all it’s fake theatre

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1394823/Mexican-war-drugs-reaches-new-low-drug-gangs-hang-rival-members-city-centre-bridges.html

        Does that link make you fantasize about our politicians at all….LoL

      5. They are extreme lairs. The congress is a sham, the president could care less. He works for the UN said so himself, doesn’t need congress.It’s getting worse and nothing on the horizon can even be implied as optimistict. Now we have the CEO of Government Motors saying the Feds should add .50 to 1.00 per gallon of gas, the guy must be smokin crack! Why? he says it would cause people to buy more fuel effiecient cars and not suburbans, Ha quit making suburbans idiot! With the numbers of people out of working AND OR have been reduced to working for substandard wages, whose got thew money to buy overpriced cars? This is not to mention even more inflation it would cause for everyday goods.These people are arsonists.

      6. Smart people and preppers shouldn’t be to concerned about a double dip, they know that we never got out of the first one.

      7. I’ve lost over 30k on my current home and about 90k on my other home in another State. Some folks I know are now walking from their homes because they have lost much more than I just mentioned here. I am lucky to have a great job that pays very well and with every penny I get from the wife I buy #10 cans of food supplies. I’ve got enough ammo and weapons,silver oz. etc. so there is no concern there. I just wish they would pop an EMP or admit to the pending disaster once they financial collapse occurs so we can get on with it and start the long slow adjustments towards normalization as a human. All this pissing around wit the fancy words is doing no one any good at all.IMHO

      8. It pains me to say it, but… President Pimp is only be rational.

        Not being concerned is the only sensible and logical position to take, personally, practically and from a public relations position, when THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN F\/<K|N' DO ABOUT IT!!!!!

      9. I for one think it is a good thing that so many college graduates will return home after college. Not because of them being unable to find a job, but because it is the first step to putting families back together.

        Remember the Waltons? Three generations under the same roof living in harmony, helping each other in any way they could. Everybody did their share. That is what a family should be. If someone is family, that trumps everything else. It’s not that way right now, but will be again.

        The family structure was required back in those days because the government was not there with the welfare checks. It will be a good thing for the family unit if it is again required to remain intact for survival of the individuals.

        A strong family raises offspring with strong will and family allegiance. Generally speaking, of course.

        The young that have to return home will not like it. They have been promised so much, and given so much. They will not be able to give the same to their own children, but a strong family is far better than a bunch of Chinese crap. Their kids will know this long before the college grads of today will realize it.

        As for Obama, just the sight of him makes me want to go blind and the sound of his voice makes me wish I was deaf. His crap is for the masses that will likely NEVER awaken.

        Of course he is not worried about a double dip. Nothing will change for him. He is just a schill and a liar put there by the money powers to do all the damage he can do while he is there. He represents the corp, not me.

        • Good night Jon boy.

          • I think we can take Olaf. It’s time for doctor death! It’s a hell of a day at sea!

          • goodnight Ben, goodnight Grandma and grandpa. These times are surely returning. More than likely what we need. Time to get rid of, and/or stop buying “stuff”. Remember God and family come first.

        • amen brother!!!!!!!!!!!

        • I fully support the idea of families sticking together. For me, I prep not only for me and my wife, but for my grown children, who don’t have a clue.
          For the rest of the sheeple families out there, they can sit around the fire and sing Kum-ba-ya while they starve to death. sad but true. reality is a b___h. no prep equals a death sentence. I will help my closest neighbors, as it is in my best interest. but for the rest of those sheeple out there—there is a reason they call them sheeple, and they will prove that to a tee.

        • Since we still have this privelage here, i can assure you that family bonds it’s the only thing that can get us through this mess.
          My house is in the same property with my parents in law, and my parents live 5 minutes away.
          They help us with the kid and we offen share our food and money.
          I don’t know if the Waltons was too much in terms of happiness, but it surely sends its messages.

          Best regards Gods Creation

          • “i can assure you that family bonds it’s the only thing that can get us through this mess.”

            My point exactly. Unfortunately, it will only happen when families are FORCED to rely on each other to get by. Forcing that on the People is the only benefit to what the banksters are doing to us. And it will come back to haunt them.

        • @ Gods Creation ~

          Right you are. Our daughter, son-in-law and their dog moved in with us 2 years ago. We all get along and work together, so the situation works out well for all. We may all move into a bit larger house sometime in the future; but we don’t ever intend to seperate.

          My wife is Colombian and this is the way things work down there. There isn’t any unemployment insurance, food stamps, AFDC, medicaid, welfare, etc. down there. If you don’t have family that you can rely on during tough times ….. you’re hosed down there in Colombia.

          People in the United States need to get back to the basics and forget about the material lifestyle. It’s very transitory in nature ….. here today …. but it could be gone in the blink of an eye tomorrow.

          You can get buried in your Corvette or Mercades if you really want to …. but I seriously doubt that you can drive either car past St. Peter and into Heavn.

          God Bless & good luck to all.

      10. Its double something, thats for sure. Double trouble. Certainly not double dip. Something like “double down” or “double trouble” but in order for there to be another “dip”, the indicators would have to have been up for a while.

        Its funny how, in 2008, when the stock market was falling, the usurper in chief said, “The stock market is not the economy.” and he’s right. But, then, in 2010 as the stock market gained steam, the usurper in chief stood on that as an example as the economy recovering.

        Uh? Wha? Its just amazing how liars operate. …and the general public (read that as: sheople) is so busy bleeting about their tiny perception of whats going on so they don’t even realize that the criminal bastard class in Washington are bleeding them dry.

        They don’t care. But they soon will. They’re making their money and their living the high life. Whats a little economic downturn when you’re getting paid 6 digits and more.

        We have to figure out a way to shove these criminal bastards aside. They are nothing but drift wood that clog the waterways of success, prosperity and liberty.

      11. He meant to say he is not concerned with the “Double tap” on the American way of life?

        in other news-
        Bilderbergers are meeting this week, in St Moritz, to celebrate the successes (e.g. higher food/gas prices combined with lower wages worldwide) of their NWO plan coming together perfectly. They are now just waiting for the elimination of the middle class so they can get back to times of only Serfs and Kings.

      12. Two things for sure are going to happen:
        Almost Everyone will work for McDonalds and Walmart
        Everyone will eat McDonalds food and everyone will buy at Walmart.
        That is the American dream..errrr nightmare?

        • That is the NWO’s plan, not a mere dream.

        • What happened to kentucky fried chicken?
          They pay bonuses in chicken wings. 🙂

          • They’re only good at Hooter’s.

      13. tptb would rather have a double dip recesion than a petro dollar collapse. the real danger is having to pay any other currency or gold for oil.

        • That’s the first smart thing I’ve seen you blog.

          • sez nonaonmousguy

      14. “The Waltons?” Go back to watching false-reality TV. Cause that is what the “Waltons” was.
        ——————
        Right on about there being no double-dip. Just a bunch of double-dipshits in Congress.

        Oh well, we are in for another election cycle and it all boils down to a numbers game.

        You can fool all of the people some times.
        You can fool most of the people most of the time.
        You can’t fool all of the people all of the time.

        “Fear is the mind-killer”* and it appears there are no end to the number of animals living in the fear of their own making. *”Dune”, Frank Herbert

        Never under-estimate the stupidity of large groups of people that live in the fear of their own choosing. For the vast majority, debt was a choice. Saving for a rainy day is a choice. Planning and prepping is a choice. Choose wisely.

        ——————-
        Just had a pleasant conversation with a local expresso and recreational cabin business-woman. Her business was up and her clientel commented that everyone else has raised prices while she hadn’t. The difference? Debt and its consequent high fixed costs. No debt and your fixed costs are minimal. Hmmm, imagine that.

        Too bad Congress doesn’t listen to successful business-women (and men). Always has amazed me that the people refuse to elect successful small business folks. Mayhaps it is because only double-dipshits run for elected office?

        • I didn’t mean to imply the Waltons were a real family, though based on true experiences of Earl Hamner, the creator of the show. It was used as an example of an ideal family that sprung from necessity in the depression, and what the family will become in the future once people again depend on it in this depression, like they do the government now.

          Those will be better days emotionally if not financially.

          Call me an optimist, but I think after thew initial wave of chaos things will change for the better and that is one way the improvements will come about.

          • The Amish are doing the way right now,
            they have always done it that way, the family way.

          • Waltons also exemplified the family working together for a common goal. We as Americans in general have gotten so far from this close knit family, dependent on each other. It would be a positive outcome to a negative situation if we had to get back to these roots.

          • I often disagree with you in most issues, overtheedge. But I have to agree with this statement:

            “Fear is the mind-killer”* and it appears there are no end to the number of animals living in the fear of their own making.” — *”Dune”, Frank Herbert

            Alex Jones is very good at promoting fear to the sheeple.

            • Don’t mistake the supposed reporting of fear, with simply reporting the facts as he sees them. The facts just happen to be quite fearfull. perilous times ahead. There’s just a lot of doom and gloom out there, and not much happy talk. What else would you expect living in a depression??

        • Saving for a rainy day is a choice.

          It can also be pointless when the value of your FRNs drop faster than you can gather them.

          • you said a mouthfull about saving money. because of the rampant hyperinflation, saving FRN’s is no longer a prudent policy. I try to have enough to pay bills, and have some savings, but prefer precious metals for the most part. the trouble is, because of this economy, there are no cut and dry answers for anything. I think food, metals, guns, ammo, and a good water supply are priceless. I think we will all get the opportunity to find out very soon.

        • overtheedge says:

          ““The Waltons?” Go back to watching false-reality TV. Cause that is what the “Waltons” was.”

          You are quite Wrong about that.

          There were many families just like them with very similar stories, some even had the same last name. That’s a fact.

          On another note, I noticed my local Gander Mt. store no longer employs a gunsmith.
          I asked why and was told, all gun repairs are sent to a centralized location. I suppose this is a nationwide trend, or perhaps only in select areas?
          Now I see why the gunsmith said it was a bad business to get into. In the last 40yrs my medium sized town has only been able to support a few gunsmiths working on their own, the same well established ones. I don’t see that changing much, contrary to what some others might say.

          A small long time craft store that recently moved into a more high end and more expensive location announced it is closing.
          Do you suppose that will have a ripple effect as it’s likely the same in many cities?

          As the housing bubble and the tech bubble spiraled employment up,… so it is now spiraling down.

      15. Just go’s to show……..what a F**KING TOOL we have in the White House! Get a clue you MORON!!!

      16. TPTB don’t even try to hide it now. They are plundering the US in preparation for the move to the One World Government. And don’t forget that Kissinger has said the first world leader of that government is slated to be Obama. So of course he is ok with how this is going. Why else are they “bailing out” multinational corporatios, foreign banks and third world nations? We can’t keep our heads above water and we are sending billions of dollars overseas.
        Can anyone say Agenda 21?

      17. Kiss-inger won’t be around to see it for long.

      18. Zero the foreign born usurper n thief and illegal alien squatting in the White Hut can be frankly honest in one rare teleprompter quote; the planned collapse of the U.S. economy is right on schedule for him and marxist/muzzie pals.

        Wait for the planned rioting scheduled for summer 2012 so Zero can take advantage of the crisis to attempt another term. Forged birth certificate and state’s requiring proof of natural born citizenship to get on their ballots be damned.

        Folks, look at what happened in 2006 when Zero as Senator violated the Logan Act going abroad to his homeland in Kenya to rally and campaign for Marxist and Sharia law devotee Raila Odinga:

        August 2006

        51 seconds in,

        “I am so proud to come back home…..”

        http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/04/video-obama-speaking-in-kenya-with-mass.html

        What the media doesn’t want to discuss, conservative/ or liberal hacks. Odinga trained by East German Stasi at a communist “college”, as a rising starlet for third world paradises to spread the “revolution”. There have been many examples of this, with KGB run schools like Patrice Lumbasa Univ south of Moscow.

        After Odinga lost the election for President of bloodbath ensued, fully supported by Zero, thousands lost their lives when Odinga’s Orange Party hacked, pillaged, raped the streets. In return as concessions this scumbag got to be Prime Minister. Who’s been in subtle contact with him? Zero. And sent $25 million of our money to Kenya for their Constitution with clause so Zero can rule that country.

        Pure treason.

        Where is a our truthful and devoted mainstream media? Where is our patriotic brave outspoken leaders?

        (crickets)

        Real leaders will be rising from the ash heap of what’s coming. Good, maybe will get a restoration of the Constitution respected and cherished. Pacifists, metrosexuals, hippies, Quakers — you’re ideals are noble, however, it’s past your bedtime.

        You see, there’s quite a reckoning to be done dontcha know?

        Keep the powder dry.

      19. Why should he be concerned as long as there is sports and false-reality tv on the tube? Opiate of the masses anyone?

        • Maybe enough of this “Opiate of the masses”…
          I see people who are about ready to just start using opiates. period.

          • Don’t knock it too much; could be a prime business opportunity once the SHTF. Think of the unfulfilled need for painkillers once those pharmacies and prescription drugs go away. Want to try doing an appendectomy or retrieve a bullet from a gunshot wound without anesthetic? Having the ability to produce opium and opium derived products such as morphine might mean the difference between your starvation and your survival in the post-SHTF world!

      20. You know what I heard?

        Bla bla bla bla bla SSDD bla bla bla

      21. Government is an innocent reflection of the collective quality of the people.

      22. Of course Obama is out of touch. Much like in the days of Ceaușescu in Romania, even people that were seen on television handing evidence of the country’s deplorable condition to the Dictator/President were hurried out of sight, to be dealt with accordingly by the oppressive state security apparatus. People who think Obama is in charge need to wake up; he’s a figurehead. The real power is in the hands of Tammany Hall, just like it always was…except this time, Tammany is just another whore mouth to feed, too. Except this whore doesn’t give you a blowjob in the morning or at night. She just takes your money and looks ugly in the meantime.

      23. Of course GM and Chyrsler are doing ok after they stiffed their creditors.

      24. We’re probably going to need another think tank case study bipartisan job program thingee touted out in front of the dumb masses so the masses will learn how to put the wheels back on at the Fiat Company.

      25. When you elected someone with no experience based on skin color & hype, obama is what you get. This could not have happened at a worse time in our history. We needed a real leader to LEAD us during these tough times.

        There are much better leaders than obama, but I wonder if a real, true, non power/ego-motived leader still exists.

      26. Obama is right no double dip recession. You can’t call a full blown depression a mere recession.

      27. i just started watching the tv show jerico on netflix streaming – never saw it before this past week… (i did remember hearing about it back in 2006-2008 when it was on)

        wow, it sure makes me wonder if that could be a false flag in our near future… even with the latest news about iran being 8 weeks from multiple nuclear bombs etc… like sort of setting the stage of a timeline for it etc…

        seems everything is falling apart in the NWO plans of control – i can easily see the similarity to the show jerico plot line as a way to “reset” everything – of course with the government all prepped. bunkered and pre-planned for continuity of government (no cares about the people of course)

        if you’ve not seen that show – i suggest you check it out… kinda creepily similar to real life so far… i can’t wait to see how the next few episodes are…

        • You’re going to be really PO’d at how the show ends in the second season…. just sayin.

          (heck of a dang good show though, and there’s quite a mystery surrounding how the show ended, and why it ended considering its popularity… the producers basically said that sometimes even great shows with large audiences are cancelled… perhaps it had something to do with the direction the show went in the second season — you’ll know what I mean as soon as you see those last few episodes … I am fairly certain there was intervention from some of the top level powers that be… it was about to get VERY controversial, on the order of the last third of the book Patriots…)

          • OK I am thru the first season and into the second. I am pissed Johnston died, and I don’t like this military prick. The amount of similarities between this show and both books ‘Patriots’ and ‘One Second After’ is eery…..someone had to borrow ideas one from another. Either the books borrowed from the show or vice versa. Not sure which came out first?

            I also am concerned that this is in our future, even more so if a tv show gets too close to something and then TPTB pull it when it is so popular

      28. We haven’t had cable in over a year, but we have netflix…I can find it on there?

      29. The big “O” wont be concerned..hell, he wont even be here , remember he’s got more important vacations to take then to worry about this country..

        bringing on the fail

      30. Thanks for getting us hooked 😉

        We have not watched ANY tv in over a year. The Netflix is to have some cartoons like Veggie Tales, Backyard Agains, & Wonderpets for the kids. So not only have we not watched regular TV in probably 3 years and absolutely NO tv since March 2010…..now in just an afternoon we have watched the first two episodes of Jericho and are so hooked…we might miss church tonight….LoL

        • It’s a good series, but Mac is right – prepare for the last couple of episodes to go straight to BS fantasyland.

          CBS originally put out one season, then cut it off. Popular demand before the first season ended forced CBS to start grinding out a 2nd season, though about halfway through for some odd reason they decided that the (shortened) 2nd season would be the last.

          This meant that 1/2 way through season 2, the plotlines and story arcs suddenly start getting a *very* hurried look about them, and the last couple of episodes pretty much dispense with the pretense and, well – I won’t spoil it for you.

          I can tell you that the first season was frickin’ awesome in how they explored how folks would behave, how communities would react, and how things could generally go if the SHTF hit a rural midwestern community out in BFE.

          There were some things they really could have improved, and there were a couple of logic-farts here and there that made me stop and go “waitaminute, that ain’t possible…” But, the good definitely out-weighed the bad, by orders of magnitude.

          (…and the deaf chick or the IRS agent? Call me weird, but, if I were a single guy, I’d -definitely- tap either one, and preferably both…)

          • We just watched the first three episodes and then went to Wed night group and are back home now getting ready to watch #4….I can’t quite figure out this Mr Hawkins yet?? (the black guy)

            • R u sure GC would approve?

            • Hawkins is an interesting character, I don’t want to spoil it for you!!

            • …what Chuckles said. They did a very good job with the Hawkins character.

          • out of curiosity….what were your logic farts??

            I thought it could of done with a little less soap opera relationship drama….but yes the IRS chick is something else 😉
            I also don’t care for the backwards and forwards thing….IOW I like linear forward….no flashback stuff.
            I am on 2nd season episode 2 now

            I’d like to punch Gray Anderson

            • A couple of them (w/o spoiling anything, so just sticking to the first season):

              * Ash from Denver started falling before the population got all panicky about “impending” fallout. If you’re seeing ash fall on your hands, you’re getting fallout.

              * The IP addy the chick showed at the cafe would have never worked (IIRC it started with “902.”… just wondering how in the unholy hell one could pack the number “902” into an 8-bit binary number)

              * Sorry, but there’s no way any government (even ours) could coerce a metric ton of ISPs to hijack every internet connection across all ports. To do that, they’d have to erect a monster series of transparent proxies, and forget all about the existence of SMTP (email), NNTP (Usenet), IRC (chat), existing corporate VPN connections (encrypted tunnels to other sites – my soon-to-be-ex employer has three of them running to corp headquarters in the EU), etc… there are thousands of ways to connect to someone else, from telnet and SSH, to obscure bits like freakin’ Gopher (which is, amazingly, still around). We’re talking literally millions of servers that would have to be modified in just a week. Not happening. Even if they were to just hijack all the transocean fiber and satellites, they’d still have to hijack lines running to and from Mexico, Canada, etc. After all, the Internet was originally, and literally, made to survive a nuclear attack. Not saying it’s impossible, but it would take a whole lot more work than the show portrayed, and the absolute best results you could hope for would be an outage – not a complete hijack. The work required to do a complete end-to-end hijack would have – well, I’ll stop there. 🙂

              * …only one sniper, and it’s Hawkins? C’mon, a typical rural town would contain scores of hunters who could pick off a person-sized object at 300 yards.

              * Whatever happened to the local (and stereotyped all to hell) conspiracy guy in the first episode or two (the guy who lent the ham radio gear)?

              Anyrate, better stop there. 🙂

              Like I said, excellent show in spite of it all, though. 🙂

      31. It should be repeated…
        IT’S NOT TRUE UNTIL THE WHITE HOUSE DENYS IT
        lmao

      32. At one time I thought that our CIC had the makings of a truly great moment in America’s History.A black man elevated to the highest post in the land:President!The chance to be our incarnation of FDR(say what you will,we’d ALL be living in a REAL Fascist state w\o him).Instead he’s just a blacker,milder and almost spineless Mr. Bush.Just the kind of leadership we Don’t need in these harsh and unkind days we live in.DEPRESSION is the word for the next 20 years.Or worse, perhaps a northern version of the Argentina style of living.Fun,Fun and more MTV “entertainment” and “Savage Cops who break the law to get the bad guy” than you have fleas on a yard dog.
        Best to All!!
        GFG

      33. That’s what you got for thinking! It’s CinC for the military or POTUS for “you”.

      34. Don’t get me wrong I LOATHE the typical politician, but playing the Devil’s Advocate what do they do? The Seniors do NOT want to hear anything about cutting SS and Medicare benefits, the young people are so in love with Obama that they can’t think clearly. The “rich” are sick of the taxes (50% including state taxes). Some of the Repubs are so in love of turning Muslim shitholes into democracies that they could never imagine cutting our military expenditures. If a politician actually tries to do something good, the people whose toes he(she) is stepping on scream bloody murder and vote him(her) out of office. So many of the people suck at the government tit that they will riot in the streets if things change. We’re discovering in this country the reality that once the cat is out of the bag (giving people something for nothing – make the rich guy pay for it) it is impossible to cut those freebies. Only a dictator could do it and he would have to kill alot of rioters in the process.

        Our ONLY hope is a revival of Christianity and people asking the Lord to forgive us and to heal our spirits and our broken country. Without a Christian revival we are toast. Help us Lord should be our National Athem

      35. Don’t get me wrong I LOATHE the typical politician, but playing the Devil’s Advocate what do they do? The Seniors do NOT want to hear anything about cutting SS and Medicare benefits, the young people are so in love with Obama that they can’t think clearly. The “rich” are sick of the taxes (50% including state taxes). Some of the Repubs are so in love of turning Muslim shitholes into democracies that they could never imagine cutting our military expenditures. If a politician actually tries to do something good, the people whose toes he(she) is stepping on scream bloody murder and vote him(her) out of office. So many of the people suck at the government tit that they will riot in the streets if things change. We’re discovering in this country the reality that once the cat is out of the bag (giving people something for nothing – make the rich guy pay for it) it is impossible to cut those freebies. Only a dictator could do it and he would have to kill alot of rioters in the process.

        Our ONLY hope is a revival of Christianity and people asking the Lord to forgive us and to heal our spirits and our broken country. Without a Christian revival we are toast. “Help us Lord” should be our National Anthem.

      36. Don’t get me wrong I LOATHE the typical politician, but playing the Devil’s Advocate what do they do? The Seniors do NOT want to hear anything about cutting SS and Medicare benefits, the young people are so in love with Obama that they can’t think clearly. The “rich” are sick of the taxes (50% including state taxes). Some of the Repubs are so in love of turning Muslim shitholes into democracies that they could never imagine cutting our military expenditures. If a politician actually tries to do something good, the people whose toes he(she) is stepping on scream bloody murder and vote him(her) out of office. So many of the people suck at the government tit that they will riot in the streets if things change. We’re discovering in this country the reality that once the cat is out of the bag (giving people something for nothing – make the rich guy pay for it) it is impossible to cut those freebies. Only a dictator could do it and he would have to kill alot of rioters in the process.

        Our ONLY hope is a revival of Christianity and people asking the Lord to forgive us and to heal our spirits and our broken country. Without a Christian revival we are toast. “Forgive us and Help us Lord” should be our National Anthem.

      37. OK…..this pisses me off, it just went into fantasy land bull sh*t. Hawkins just lost the bomb, Major Beck is a good picture though in reality of how even good guys in the military and LE can and will be bad.

        I can see why they took this show down….what I can’t understand is how it got started to begin with or was allowed to even go as far as it did???? I see this show as closer to reality TV then reality TV is

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