Nigel Farage: Financial “Cataclysm” To Come, Gold to Unimaginable Levels

by | Sep 23, 2011 | Headline News | 254 comments

Do you LOVE America?


    You may remember Nigel Farage as the EU parliament member who tore into the President of the EU and most recently held a funeral for the Euro (complete with casket, pall bearers, and procession) on the streets of London.

    Mr. Farage is a former commodities broker on the London Metals Exchange, so he understands the financial markets and monetary system (unlike 99% of the other politicians in the EU and DC), as well as the implications of the current debt crisis facing not just Europe, but the entire world. You’ll rarely hear a politician come out from behind the curtain as Nigel Farage does. Like most of us, he’s not very optimistic about what’s to come, and he lays out his views in an interview with King World News which is well worth listening to in full:

    The banking system is just in the most awful mess. And of course, what will happen, and this is what the markets fear, is that once we get countries like Greece defaulting we then have an admission that the debts they owe to these banks are not going to be paid back. That, in essence, is what default really means. So, I’m afraid we’ve just had the most catastrophic series of people running banks, they’ve been encouraged by big government, the whole concept of financial regulations has failed, and we are indeed heading into very dangerous waters.

    I think that default of Greece and Portugal, and possibly Ireland, too, are inevitable.

    I think the worst in the financial system is yet to come, a possible cataclysm and if that happens the gold price could go (higher) to a number that we simply cannot, at this moment, even imagine. Gold is in an uptrend and professional traders should be buying the dips.

    Source: King World News

    There is simply no way that Greece, Portugal and likely a host of other countries (not just Ireland) will not eventually default. We really don’t know the extent of the debts and leverage involved because all of the monetary and financial machinations over the last ten, and especially three, years have been done in secret. There are likely hundreds of banks and many governments that have significant exposure to toxic assets – and not just in Europe. Our own Federal Reserve reportedly holds over a trillion dollars in assets that are essentially worthless.

    If we were, as former Secretary Hank Paulson said, “very, very close” to meltdown in 2008, and they were threatening us with tanks on the streets of America, and absolutely nothing has been resolved, then what’s in store for us going forward?

    Many of us were told in private conversations that if we voted against this bill on Monday, that the sky would fall, the market would drop two or three thousands points the first day, another couple thousand the second day, and a few members were even told that there would be martial law in America if we voted no.

    House Representative Brad Sherman (D-California)
    Debate on the House Floor, October 2, 2008

    We can’t stress enough how serious this crisis is for the general global economy and the stability of the entire social and political systems of developed Western nations. Trillions of non-existent dollars and euros have been committed to resolving this crisis, and we are now worse off than when we started stimulating in 2008.

    Do not underestimate what’s happening here.


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      1. Our worthless politicians, guided by the unseen forces that control this planet have brought us to this. To grow up loving this great country, and now realizing that everything, including wars that killed our fathers and friends, is all orchestrated by greedy psychopaths breaks my heart. The only hope that I have and can control is prepping. Good luck to all.

        • I would agree with the addition of “we also brought this on ourselves”. The American mindset (of the sheeple) has changed dramatically over the recent generations. The core values of most Americans have changed (resulting in corrupted politicians too)

          Now, the four core, bread and butter American cultural values are:

          1.) I’m the victim.
          2.) I spend way more than I earn.
          3.) I want it now!
          4.) My misfortune is ALWAYS someone else’s fault.

          Political action can’t fix this. It doesn’t matter who wins the presidency.

          • arkaden…i believe you are right..and the only real fix one can hope for is in their own private life..
            1.quit the blame game
   all of your debts and dont rack up any more.
            3. use cash only and when the cash runs out, learn to barter for essentials
            4. prepare for the worse to happen and if it does things wont seem quite so bad if you are prepared to the best of your ability.

            • Agree with all of the above EXCEPT credit card debt. Boycott. Repayment should be contingent on the Banking cartel corruption being prosecuted and cleaned up. Otherwise? No debt repayment for 90 days. It is our only leverage over the unacountable, swindling frauds who are the REAL government of America. Unlike all other measures we could take (protests, petitions, letters etc) THAT is the only vote that counts.

          • Very well said!!

          • Excellent. #2 is my favorite….#3 is the reason for #2. Selfishness, me me me me me…….

          • Political action can’t fix it. Man can do nothing without God. Since God has been slowly getting pushed out, the corruption has been slowly creeping in. Funny how that works.

            I heard someone say once “we have the government we deserve”. Once I realized how true that statement was, I quit listening to truther radio or websites such as Alex Jones. Jones thinks we can do it without God too. He would be wrong. As man attempts to do it without God, there will only be death. What seems right unto man leads to death.

          • Mo, this is a good article. My view is that gold’s performance during a financial crisis will differ when compared to a monetary or sovereign debt crisis. No doubt that we are currently experiencing a financial whirlwind ofmvolatilitynand uncertainty, and as I’ve mentioned in the past, this will lead to investors essentially selling everything… A monetary crisis, or a collapse of a nation due to debt default will, in my opinion, have a completely different effect on gold and probably essential commodities like food and these crises, people will undoubtedly panic, but I think capital I’ll shift differently than it does in a stock market sell off. Thanks. -Mac

            • Why do you theorize different outcomes between “debt” and “financial” crises?

        • I feel the same way, empty hand. When I first realized the NWO, I walked around feeling like I was in some parallel universe, like nothing was real or as it seemed. I could not understand how a few thousand (around 6k) could be in such control of the 7 billion people on this planet.

          The anxiety was overwhelming at times. Now, I’ve accepted it and am taking steps to protect my family as best I can. Even at that, I feel woefully unprepared….

          • What old POA was slow to learn (but I’ve learned this lesson very well) is that most people do not want to look outside of their comfort paradigm.

            Corrupt bankers? Corrupt politicians? A public education system that should result in very, very long prison sentences? A plan for global government?

            The best I can recommend is “The Creature From Jekyll Island” by G Edward Griffin.

        • How are you prep pig?

        • How about all of YOU loving the WHOLE FUCKING WORLD for a change.

          Do YOU in America think you have the sole ‘right’ to be happy and content.

          If so, FUCK YOU!!!!!


          • Americans don’t have the sole right to be anything, but we don’t owe the world anything either. Guilt is a fraud – some buy into it and I don’t. I’ll help anyone if I feel like it, but I won’t be guilted or scared into it.

            Right now, I’m taking care of those I love most, and others as resources permit.


          • OCS: Yes WE have the right to be happy and it says as much in OUR Constitution. Its called the “pursuit of happiness” and this right was given to US by Nature’s God.

            How’s YOUR Constitution working for you?

            • Pursuit of Happiness is in the Declaration of Independence, not the Constitution. With that being said, God did not give rights to just US citizens, he gave them to everyone. The United States just wrote down that he did this. God given rights does not end at a pretend line in the dirt.


        • That is exactly how I feel. It sucks but you said it very well.

      2. Thank you Mac, especially for the video clips. Gotta love Nigel and how he rips.

      3. The guilty parties haven’t been made to pay, yet.

        • I think a sudden event would be the worst nightmare for the banksters. They would be more likely to be chased down and literally hung out to dry. Sadly, it would only be lower-level banksters.

          • The banksters worst nightmare is everyone getting out of debt.

            • Correct. Everyone declare bankruptcy!

              Talk about panic for some and relief for most.

              Kind of like taking a great big shit, but in reverse.


        • Aint that the truth.!

      4. It is worst than they will tell us. It is worst than you can imagine. The media won’t even mention the protest on Wall Street this week let alone the horrific financial mess the world is in.

        Don’t count on others. Do yourself a favor and prepare the best you can, it may already be too late.

        Stay in touch by reading what is really going on in the “real” world, Here and at other informative sites.

        Forget television, forget the optimist and the rosy glasses they make you wear. It’s time to wake up and open your eyes.

        If you like reality tv and all its drama, this is going to be one great event you don’t want to miss, go outside and check it out… it’s scary and exhilarating at the same time. What a Rush!

        Good Luck All

        • I agree with the mess we are in but we have a long time before this unfolds and until then we can possibly get a candidate who can slowly reverse this or just have bankruptcy reorganization , either way we aren’t in any imminent danger , they just want you to react like we are , ……remember 2008 ….everything was imminent and we survived another 3 years !

          • I know the general “SHTF” crowd does not agree with you, but I do. In fact there is less distance to fall right now then in 08, its not like housing values are going to drop another 40% over the next 3 months. People are buying now at these prices and there is cash waiting to jump in when they can buy lower. I bought a rental in December and will again soon. I watch for them daily. Rentals are great – money comes in and provides a better return on investment then any savings account, dividend or even metal. (oh metals don’t I forgot).

            Situation is bad, but not as bad as the sky is falling as suggested.

            • JIM: I agree, for now anyway has I believe the next six months will tell the tale. As a former “realty whore” (and quite proud of it) I believe there are some screaming deals out there for investors with money.

              I was scanning the market in Prescott AZ a couple months back and saw a foreclosure listed for $95K. It was in great shape and about 2000 sq ft, 3/2, 2 gar. Normally I would expect the price to be about $120-150K

              Do you think the bank would take 50-65k CASH for that? You betcha!

            • rentals are great when the renters have a job and can pay the rent, but when the golden goose stops laying and the town,county,school taxes just keep coming, after a few yrs, the government owns all the property.Rentals are not very profitable in my area today.

            • My “new” home in SW Florida was just reappraised at 40% less than what I paid-less than a year ago………….(I’m OK with that cause i have no debt now).

              Point being-Assume nothing. The future has no guaranty.

            • Just Me,

              When tenants can’t pay the rent I have two choices and they are not that bad. They can become my personal security detail, obtain other goods for me, do services I can’t, or move on and let me put someone else in place that can. Prior to “SHTF” their rent enables me to buy more gold, guns and ammo.

            • Rich and Jim; The financial collapse is going to happen as a staged event. The real issue while everyone is focused on the fiat money trail is: we are losing our constitutional rights. Every event; i.e. 911, stock market, debt, wars-terrorism,etc..are distractions while the powers to be erode our rights and deminish our constitution. The document (constitution) that trully seperates us from all other nations. This beautiful document is what has held up the NWO for years.
              Stay in prep mode for the sake of your loved ones.

          • Like I’ve stated on other threads, this episode of the SHTF is singular and personal. People that were able to hold on through the last economic crisis may not be so lucky this time.

            This downturn will hit some folks hard and for THEM it will be a SHTF event. For others it won’t even be a blip on their radar, and for still others it will be a source of minor inconvenience.

            I don’t believe that this is the end of “civilization”.

            Sure, there are going to be people, who were not good citizens before this, who allow this to be their own mental get-out-of-jail-free card, using it to justify their dishonest actions.

            But for the rest of us, we just need to keep our dignity and our character intact and weather this event like any other – head held high, morals held close.

            • Daisy,

              I agree. I have some family members who are “just hanging on” now. This downturn may be a SHTF event for them.

              KY Mom

            • DAISY that sounds like what happens in any recession….some people get hit hard and others are unscathed ! my point to all these doomers on here is that…..NO……the shit isnt going to hit anything any time soon so dont panic and go out and enjoy life and dont waste evry waning second trying to gather up supplies !

            • “But for the rest of us, we just need to keep our dignity and our character intact and weather this event like any other – head held high, morals held close”

              Daisy, a most important obsevation. Character and humility should be plentiful once the big shakeout is over. At least I hope so.

            • After a week like this, I can’t wait for next week! You can’t buy excitment like this. I’m down over a hundred big ones and Ben is giving me another woody.

            • I was informed by my dear neighbor, wednesday, that the eggs I send over weekly from my chickens are a blessing. I had no idea that her husband has lost his job, the car was NOT going to the shop, it was repossessed, and they might lose the house. To hear they were hungry on top of all THAT just broke my heart. They are both in their 50’s and I don’t see another job coming along for either of them. Meanwhile Pepe from Taquete’ gets a free ride. grrrr.

          • You will continue to survive because your life comes from a higher power than the corp. You will not die when it’s money does.

            • I worship gold………… I even make action figure out of it because I love it… 😉

            • I’m really sick of such useless, smug platitudes. There ARE plenty of people who do nearly die from no health, home etc in such circumstances.

      5. How’s that gold working out for you peeps

        • pretty well for those of us who picked it up in December of 2008….and a whole lot better for those who jumped in before that. 🙂

          • Agreed.

          • hope you invested in guns and ammo, because when shtf people will do anything to survive!

          • Copout: My basis is approximately $300 an ounce on the gold, $350 on the palladium, $700 on the platinum; then theres iridium about $400, and rhodium at $2250 …..

          • I picked some up when I had the extra money back in 91, man I should have bought more back then, the inflated price and current markets I started buying lead….lol 😉

        • Ask that question again at the end of this year…
          But so far EXCELLENT!!!!

        • For some very important crooks it is working out quite well to buy more while shorting it on the way down Can of Fish.

        • Just put in an order! Great time to buy been praying for another nice drop to jump on.

        • I own gold and silver and I’m laughing so hard at this article…..I have been hearing gold $2000 for months now ! BUT the “DOOM CLUB ” will believe anything these people say . I wish I sold 2 weeks ago .

          • We wish you did too, why don’t you sell now.

            • i just might during the next phony increase !!! who the fuck do you think makes up these prices anyway…..the same people in charge of the henhouse !! so if the dollar collapses and becomes nonexistent , tell me what the value of gold will be at any given time ? the value will be on a case by case situation based upon what you have and whether that person really truly wants or needs your gold . so for example , you have gold and need supplies and the person who you want them from doesnt really give a crap about gold but will sell you some of his supplies but he wants 5 ounces of your gold for his supplies and it wont change his liefe either way whether he has your gold or not but your life is going to change dramatically if you dont get these supplies … point is that gold will not be a currency like we have today where you go into a store and a loaf of bread is 3 dollars and its basically 3 dollars anywhere you go… will be a case by case situation and some may want it and many wont but you will be like : BUT….I HAVE GOLD AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN PREPARING FOR THIS FOR YEARS AND YOU MUST TAKE MY GOLD FOR BARTER ” and that person will tell you to fuck off or they will shoot you and steal your gold !!! HAVE A NICE DAY !!

            • Rich, you are obviously a ten year old little girl who doesnt have anything better to do than pester the grownups. I am tired of your negative comments. Go back to playing with your dolls and let the grown ups discuss adult things.

            • A Jim (anothr Jim)….

              Based on reports published by China’s space agency, Sergio Toscano, director for Astronomical Research in Missions, said that behind the comet Elenin could be approaching a UFO.

              “Behind the comet, discovered in December last year, Chinese scientists say that is something they called cluster, which means globular cluster, or perhaps alien spacecraft,” said Toscano.

              According to the report quotes the astronomer mission, the space body would be found in the comet’s tail and was analyzed after the mysterious signals that came off of an unknown formation “strange and obscure.”

              In the words of Toscano, the Chinese have said that the spacecraft is stationed in the same place for ninety days, ”before that looked like it was coming from an extraterrestrial civilization,” said Argentine scientist.

              According to the Daily Chronicle, this phenomenon was corroborated by Rosie Redfiel, the new director of the Program of NASA’s Astrobiology. ”But when NASA began to make calculations and projections of orbit of the comet, they realized that something was wrong and the first thing they did was remove the website which provided information on this issue,” said Toscano.

            • Just call me stupid!

            • STUPID………..

          • For the “real” Gold and SIlver Bugs.

            If you hold gold and silver or one or the other, you have it to preserve your wealth. This glitch that just happened (last two days) is to test the strong ones and the weak ones. The ones that say “Oh, I wish I would have sold mine two weeks ago. Those are weak remarks, coming from those who are in it for all the wrong reasons. And, TPTB know they will crack when episodes like the last two days occur. It’s just what TPTB want. They want as much as they can get. So, they have their plans, how to get it. Last two days, perfect example. “Oh, the sky is falling, the sky is falling. Sell, sell, sell. Guess who ends up with it in the end? T

            his is nothing, folks. Wait till the volume turns up a few hundred decibels.

            It’s the strong people, those that know this is about “LONG TERM” protection of wealth, who are the ones that will ride this out best in the end.

            Read my lips
            “LONG TERM”

            “LONG TERM.”

            ONCE MORE
            “LONG TERM”

            A Gold bug is one that knows how to be patient, bide ones time. Take a deep breath and relax. It’s like lining the target up in the crosshairs.

            It’s going to be a frenzy on ALL FRONTS NOW. If one is not established in oneSelf, one will be gnashing ones teeth over anything that appears to upset ones apple cart. Gold and SIlver, will be topping off somewhere in the stratosphere. The question is, does one have the patience for that to happen?

            • Kind of like gasoline, gold has taken a dip, but the trajectory is clear.

            • By long term do you mean generations? By that time I’ll be dead. Just how ‘long’ is long anyway?

          • You’ll be a fool to sell. It’s a long term investment dude.

        • Gold down $100 today
          Silver down 30% in 2 days

          Hope you bailed while it was good

          • Bailed? Heck, I’m buying!!! Glad the prices dipped again…been hoping it would!! Let it fall, let it fall, let it least until I’m done buying!!

            • I too have been making purchases at this lower price , but in Silver.

              For those who ask, “How’s that Gold doing for you now?”, I can only say, that in the long run, much better than that Vaseline you have obviously got stored up.

              I am not bailing, I am buying. Also, lots of commodities-Rice, Wheat berries, etc. Not from those on line guys butat 1/3 the price locally.

              be well and stay safe.

          • I don’t believe everyone understands the minds that play at the Comex. Very often before a large move in the trend direction the commercials will buy or sell enough to move the price far enough that the undercapitalized trader has to bail on his positions. It’s called shaking off the weak. When it drops a bit more you’ll see the commercials buying contracts with both hands.

            At least that is the norm. I spent close to a hundred grand learning those lessons at Jack Carl. This time tho we have to remember, BofA and Wells Fargo are undercapitalized because their securities are still overvalued. They have been downgraded and so has the US. These are new and untested waters.

            • I thought it was cleaning out the suckers.

              Getting harder for the banksters to extend and pretend. It is now obvious to almost all that 2005 housing prices are not coming back anytime soon, and maybe not in our lifetimes.

        • So you have nothing to lose. You will be protecting your ammo, I suppose. Grin

        • Which part of a bear trap with your foot in it don’t you understand Can Of Fish?

        • Very well! My silver basis is $11 & $350 for gold. I’ll be buying when the local coin dealer opens Monday Morning. I buy for hard times not to trade daily.

        • FANTASTIC! I’m up 400% on my initial and since 2008, I am double. How about you? Sorry to hear that you did not buy any. Oh and silver, how’s that $4.50 and $9 buy in sounding?? Hmmm….

      6. I’ve given this a lot of thought. Buying gold is for the optimists 🙂 Gold has no real value except what others put on it. You can’t eat it, wear it, and it won’t keep you warm. In a shtf situation it’s worthless and you would be better to put away toothbrushes for trade rather than gold, they’re cheaper. What gold IS good for is getting back on your feet AFTER things are back on track for the new norm. An ounce of gold vs 1800 dollars worth of supplies. hmm. I know which one will go farther.

        • You are thinking too much.

          • thank you 😀

            • I don’t think he meant that as a compliment.

        • Why are so many naïve when it comes to this argument?
          Let’s say you bought gold a few years ago at $800, today that oz of gold could buy you twice as much preps, and this is just the beginning.

          Please… get your preps first, that is most important, but any extra “paper dollars” you have left over, invest in gold (silver) so that you can prosper and not rely on handout after the SHTF.

          No, you can’t eat gold, but you can’t eat FRN’s (Federal Reserve Notes) either.
          Which one to you is more valuable?

          • There IS a point where you have enough preps.

            Gold is a convenient way to safely hold onto some of your wealth.

            • But if the dollar has depreciated relative to gold’s rise, and inflation on preps is up- arent I still paying the same as in 2008?

          • This keeps coming up? You Can eat gold, there’s a nice photo online of the most expensive desert.

            And obviously, People Can wear gold too.

        • “Gold has no real value except what others put on it.”

          The same could be said for paper money, your VISA card, or just about anything else. If there are plenty of potatoes in your area, potatoes won’t bring much in trade of anything else… you have a storage problem, as they tend to sprout and/or rot in about 6 months to a year.

          While I don’t advocate gold INSTEAD of preps, if you are already well prepped, would anyone be fool enough to keep their extra savings ( yes, I know, ‘savings’ are an odd concept to many )in fiat paper currency ?

          • But, TnAndy, I see those potatoe sprouts in an altogether different light–when your children are hungry, those potato sprouts that will yeild bushels of potatoes are….not to be cliche, but ‘priceless’!!!

        • You need both. If you can’t afford gold, get silver.

          How good would your preps be if you have to bug out? Silver or gold can be tucked in your pocket and taken with you to rebuild somewhere else.


        • If we turn back and see our past in a glimpse, we will see that gold was always playing a big part in our lives.
          No matter this had to do with bartering, currency, greed, or even vanity.
          If we don’t experience a total global physical armaggedon,i believe that gold will continue as a medium of survival in some cases.
          You’re right that it cannot be eaten or keep you warm.
          But you can certainly barter and get something valuable for you in the specific moment.
          The person who gets your gold, is a person who has a goal of keeping it for further bartering or as an investment in case things get better. He may be a speculator or a just a person who has more than enough provisions.

          Be safe.

        • I dont understand why you are thinking in absulutes. A smart preper whould get all his supplys first and invest the rest of his money in silver and gold.

          Why is it eather one or the other for you people

          • Hi Ryan…answer this…because I still don’t have a clue…and this is the problem with this argument of ‘gold/silver/pms/food/water’.
            How many supplies..for how long.
            Answer please..because I’m up to years now, and still buying.

            I know a few things…THIS LAND I’M ON WILL NEVER GROW ME A GARDEN!!!

            • imo 🙂 the answer is that you will never be ahead. Unless you can be self-sufficient you will always need some sort of income to get your needs met. If you can’t grow your most basic needs then you will always be at the mercy of the market. Rather than buying stores and gold you would be in a better position down the road to have a patch to grow food and learn seed saving. Something with a well and septic would be even better. You can heat your house with wood, hay, and yard debris if necessary. You can walk for your water if it’s not too far off but you can’t live on pinecones and bugs. A renewable source of food is your only chance to succeed, again, in my opinion…

            • So why are potato sprouts priceless. Bring top soil dirt in for raised bed garden, green house, buy miracle grow dirt.

            • JJ: Three years is good. Go to raised beds and use sq ft gardening techniques. You will need to enhance your soil. BS, CS, compost, etc.

              Did you see the post I made a couple weeks back about the prepper with the corn growing in his back yard and a greenhouse made of plastic with citrus in the backyard?

              The man is at 7,000 feet with poor soil. ADAPT!

            • Move?

            • If you build your raised bed now, in the fall, JJ, then cover it with layers of compost, newspapers, soil, etc, you will have incredible rich soil to grow in come the spring. Google “lasagna gardening” for ideas on how to build up your soil, and then use the square foot gardening method mentioned here.

              Trust me, even I, with my black thumb, managed to get some veggies using these methods! 😉

        • Hard Red Winter Wheat Berries…….

          • Just bought some Red Winter Wheat and today ordered a grain mill. If S does not HTF, it will still be fun to play with! Next on my prepping wish list, spiles (sp?) for tapping my maple trees.

          • 1happycountrymom,

            They are good. We like the hard white winter wheat too. The fresh ground whole wheat is much healthier for us too. 🙂

            KY Mom

            • Sprouted grains easier and many more nutrients even vitamin C

        • I’d rather have the supplies

          • I bet you would since you burnt up your money on useless training making yourself a target by blabbing your big mouth and eating at every I-HOP along they way around the country…

            How was Appleseed dumb ass or where ever you took your supposed pistol expert sniping b.s. course??, I bet you could have 3 months of rations for the 4 hours of nonsense you think you retained you idiot.

        • cshellz says:
          September 23, 2011 at 9:52 am
          An ounce of gold vs 1800 dollars worth of supplies. hmm. I know which one will go farther.
          Right on.

      7. The only thing I underestimate is how HIGH the price of real money will go in fiat. My imagination, “priceless”.

      8. on the martial law issue..

        im getting sick of them even thinking this way..

        you pull the plug on something like that right now or anytime in america that will be seen and viewed as an act of war on their own people. (i know thats how i see it)

        the target they will be pinning on their back would be bright red and easy to spot, besides the awake, aready know who the problem is

      9. Sometimes, I just don’t know what to think. The “perfect storm” continues to build around us. Yet, there are still so many that don’t have a clue.

        To further brighten my day…I just read this about Obamacare. Many in my family either operate or work in a small business. Health insurance costs for small businesses have always been high. The past 2 years has seen my health insurance cost take a huge jump…and I am healthy, a non smoker and fit.

        OBAMASCARE: Dr. Dean predicts companies will drop private health coverage for employees…
        “The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) premised their Obamacare score on the assumption that only 7 percent of employers would drop their employee health plans. If the percentage is closer to the 30 percent, as the McKinsey survey results predict, Obamacare’s price tag would rise by almost $1 trillion.”

        • I think O’Care kicks in at 50 employees. It would suck to work in a business of 51 people and be near the bottom of the food chain.

      10. PM should go up.. in a sane world; all PM’s should already be through the roof. They aren’t; not really. Not to the extent that they should be.

        How many trillions of digital dollars are there “out” there ? I doubt if anyone REALLY knows.

        There are not enough PM’s of any sort to cover the amount of digital money that is being transfered, created, deleted, loaned and paid in the world every moment of the day. There are not, in fact, enough physical fiat to even come close to the digital dollars that are out there.

        I contend that physical fiat is only being maintained to facilitate the day to day life activities of the markets at a local level. The next phase in world currencies can ONLY be digital in nature. In the blink of an eye; a world wide move to a stictly digital currency can be made. The technology is firmly in place today.

        The reasons will be many and will make perfect sense.. reduction of theft, avoidance of taxes, ease of use, reduction in crime, increase and ease of international trade.. the reasons go on and on.

        A digital currency solves many problems.. and by nature, will extend real, absolute control over all transactions and populations.

        Food Stamp recipients are no longer sent a check; I do not pay my employees by physical fiat; but electronically. I can no longer pay my 941 taxes at my bank by writing a check. I am required to do it electronically. I have tons of friends in Mexico and South.. many work very low level jobs; beginning last year, almost all of them are now paid electronically; it does not matter if they have a bank account or not; most do not. They are given a little debit card looking thing with which they make their purchases or use to withdraw physical fiat at various stores. Some still get a little booklet of check looking notes.. but that is changing. I could go on and on citing examples..

        The long and short is that the age of physical transactions is rapidly and purposefully being brought to an end.

        • SnotS…you make it sound so problem-free—there WILL be problems with this electronic monster…especially if the grid goes down or electricity is interrupted.
          This simple solution is not exactly one we hook up to the generator till the lights come back on!!!

          • I don’t intend to make it sould simple.. I intend to make is sound MONSTEROUS and DIABOLICAL, which is what it is. IMHO

            • Revelation 13:15 The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. 16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.

              Relation 14:9 A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives its mark on their forehead or on their hand, 10 they, too, will drink the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. They will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.” 12 This calls for patient endurance on the part of the people of God who keep his commands and remain faithful to Jesus.

        • Sam not sam,

          Just as you stated… in a sane world. Unfortunately everything seems to be turned upsidedown.

          On antoher note. I got my solar oven and can’t wait to use it. 🙂 I will have to wait a little longer as there is more rain forecast for tomorrow.

          Have you tried your solar oven?

          KY Mom

          • Hi KYM – No, I haven’t tried it yet; but I did “cure” it per the directions.. I may give it a shot this weekend..
            Even with all the condensation that covered the inside of the glass ( while curing it ) it still got up to about 275 degrees.. it heated up really fast too.

            • Who did you buy your oven from…?

            • disasterstuff DOT com. 241.99 which included FEDEX shipping. Ordered on a Sunday, arrived the following Friday.

      11. and Gold just dropped over 150 yesterday alone and silver down 10% I am not seeing how they think it will go through the roof???
        Right now according to the actions in the market, cash is still king…foolishly but still it is

        • Buy low, sell high. Is that so confusing?

          • Mr. B: Yes it will and higher. Buy on the dips people and sell some when Turkey and Israel and/or Iran clash. Wait till it drops again and back up the truck.

            There will be many “events” in the years ahead.

      12. It’s amazing how we are supposedly worse off but they are able to keep this under control better than in 2008 ! Call me a fool but that don’t make any sense !

      13. Gold is not a safe haven for two reasons: 1) the state: if the economy really collapses as many say, the government WILL confiscate and regulate gold up the huh hah. Such a scenario would be seen by the government as akin to a state of war and special powers WILL come in. And, as history shows us, governments will pass measures to control wealth.

        2) Crime gangs: good luck trying to fight off a Mexican crime gang armed with AKs who found out you have $50,000 in gold bars in your garage. Or try taking them to a shop to buy something, and the crooked shop keeper tells his cousin Jorge that that pot-bellied, slimy white guy over there always pays for his food with gold bars. Come on! Get real!

        Gold is just riding the scare machine. In a truly terrible financial collapse scenario, gold would not help you. The biggest and best thing you can do for yourself and your family is to get out of debt and stay out of debt. This gives you options, flexibility (and you are going to need to be nimbler than a Mongolian contortionist in a collapse scenario). You may need to move fast, either for safety or for opportunity. The guy bogged down with the house he can’t sell, the 500 pounds of gold bars in his garage, and the endless visits from increasingly menacing and violent debt collectors/skin heads (I know, my friends did this job), will be the guy he goes down hard.

        • Frank & beans!

        • 500 pounds? Holy crap!

          • $50K or 500 lbs, troy? Make up your mind. Pull over and change the air in your Frank. Pump up the volume. I WANT that problem!

      14. I’m posting another joke for you to relax a bit.

        There is this wife who brings her lover home, and starts bla bla….
        Sudednly the door bell rings, and she furiously says to the guy:

        – My husband, quickly, hide under the bed.

        So the guy enters himself under the bed. As soon as the lady opens the door, she sees her second lover. So she climbs up and starts banging with the second lover. So again the door bell rings, and she says:

        – My husband, quickly hide in the closet.

        So the second guy enters the closet, which was an old wooden one, more like an antique.

        As soon as the husband climbs up, he lays on his bed and lights a cigarette. But his wife in order to distract his attention, starts rubbing. So the husband throws down the cigarette and starts the job.
        But the cigarette falls on the 1st guy’s butt. He feels the heat, and shouts:

        – Fire, fire.

        And the guy from the closet replies:

        – save the furniture first.

        • You’re killing me. I like!

      15. Well, one thing is for certain: Anybody named Nigel, who lives in the UK, is alright with me! That is such a proper British name, it’s as if his parents consulted the Book Of Reasonable Names For Our Country And Culture when he was born. I’ll bet if he has a brother, his name is probably Reginald or Kenilworth or something cool, too.
        And, he exhibits the honorable, but long lost sense of English ass-kicking attitude that is all too rare today. Sadly, the same thing is happening in America- the neutering of the male psyche. By the way, I had my psyche neutered once. It didn’t hurt much, but pulling the bandages off later was excruciating! I wouldn’t recommend it.
        Plus, we can thank the Brits for the english language, which still comes in quite handy when we meet the occasional American who can’t speak spanish, which is obviously our new mother tongue (or- ‘el nuevo lingo de madre’ as we say in Oklahoma.) And that reminds me, when the US is in total chaos and tens of millions of gringos head south, we’ll need a rallying cry. Something akin to the ‘reconquista’ being used on us today. May I humbly offer this: ‘Payback is a Madre’

        • Well, I got the digs already.. the rent will be comensurate with looks.. IE – hot babes pay less. Old gringos better bring food.. 😉

          • Maybe I could stay at your place. I’ll work as the court jester in exchange for room and board. You do serve barbeque don’t you?

          • even in times of crisis your still a pig !!!who said dont let a good crisis go to waste ?? i think it was sam the pig !

        • naw his name is robert. my uncle bob!

      16. Mac, they be whacking the walrus today on Ag.

        • I hope it drops to $1000 — I’m ready to back the truck up!

      17. This was a good comment:

        “With one hand the governments of the world bail out the paper-money banks by assuming (in the name of their people, without asking them) the impossible obligations of the insolvent system which has already been looted of the underlying value.

        Then with the other hand the governments pretend to be worried about deficits, while continuing to borrow ever more from the self-same banks.

        It is becoming obvious that government is nothing more than a collection agent responsible for enforcing the violent transfer of wealth from citizens to the bankers, and for laying the noose of perpetual debt on the serfs who are supposed to pay, if they are stupid enough to let them get away with it.

        Getting rid of them will be about as pleasant as getting rid of hookworms. Civilization itself currently relies upon the use of paper unassumed-debt notes to function. The whole thing was put over by relying on the ignorance of the people in getting them to accept the ruse. If the people are not wise to the ruse now, their ignorance will be used to enslave them even more completely than they ever imagined before.

        The only antidote is for people to wake up to what money really is.

        It seems impossible, but the truth is leaking out. Despite all attempts at diversion, co-option and obfuscation, the internet has been the tool for exposing the Emperor’s New Clothes. Judging by poll numbers, it looks like this time around, Ron Paul’s campaign is reaching the critical mass needed to bring about a societal rejection of any further victimization through fake debt. We’ve passed the ten percent mark, and it’s all over but the crying for the fake-money meme. Nobody who learns the ridiculous secret of paper debt-money ever goes back to their old way of thinking.

        Not only aren’t the people going to pay any more debt for government, they aren’t going to pay the old debts either, let alone interest on them. The great reset is going to start with debt repudiation and forgiveness, whereby governments realize that they cannot collect on the burden they so arrogantly presumed to put on us. The realization is going to be that whatever damage has already been done by redistributive schemes of government cannot be undone, yet the damage is not going to be compounded by tightening the noose on future production forever. Younger generations are not going to stand still for any regime that preaches freedom while imprisoning them for life. The yoke is going to be thrown off.

        The threat that the dependent will revolt with violence rings hollow, though government can be expected to make this barbed hook tear as much flesh as possible as it gets ripped out. You can’t make slaves work by burning down your own neighborhood, nor by rampaging into the neighborhoods of the productive. All the armed gangs of either dependents or their enforcers can accomplish in the attempt is the cessation of any more wealth production to steal, and at considerable risk to their own skin. The potential victims are very rapidly becoming aware of the scam, complete with stark evidence of the results. They are extremely unlikely to meekly comply when it comes down to producing under the whip and the gun, which is the only tactic left when voluntary production has been made impossible.

        The collapse of the worldwide financial system is inevitable and it is happening in not-so-slow motion before our very eyes, today. For those who see it coming, hopefully preparations are being made to ride out the storm while helping it along by starving the beast.

        I’m not an investor and wouldn’t presume to give any advice. But for SAVINGS, I am taking advantage of the dip to transfer some paper unassumed-debt tokens into metal coins. If the price continues to fall, I’ll simply continue to accumulate. As the rest of the world flees to the illusory safety of U.S. bondage certificates, we are afforded a historic opportunity to take advantage of a temporary blip in the perceived value of U.S. unassumed-debt notes as it circles the drain. It appears that central banks are now trying to accumulate some gold while trying to manipulate the price down (what do you suppose THEY see coming?), so now might be the last bargain for a long, long time. At the very, very least, my savings will not be used by the banking system to multiply my value into twenty times its value in someone else’s debt.

        But hey, maybe I’m all wrong, and everything will just be all right tomorrow and thereafter, and I should leave my measly savings in the government bank.” – J.D.

        Gold Confiscation: A Highly Unlikely Threat

        “…I shall cover some of these arguments in greater detail here.” …

        • Thanks Clark. I have customers that come into my shop, young and old. Age does not always mean wisdom. They hold out to the last it seems because of the conditioning. The young seem to listen less but are quicker. Go figure. It makes cents to me.

        • Good rant.

          My vision is not that we emerge with an opprossive, global government but that what really happens is that people throw off the yoke of the banksters in NY/DC and concentrate on our own little corner of the world. Major de-centralization. Small farms, regional manufacturing, regional currency. Voluntary TRUE education for the children and a renewed appreciation for honor, character, dignity and our fellow man.

          • Could be. Most “brutal dictators” have less day-to-day control over people than the “good guys” running USA.

      18. Just two guys in a bar somewhere…
        Guy1- So, you selling your silver since the price dropped?
        Guy2- Haven’t yet but I may. All I got is this ring. It says ‘sterling silver plate’ in tiny little letters, so it must be worth something.
        1- They say silver has shrunk 30% in the last couple days.
        2- I can’t tell for sure. The ring don’t feel any tighter than it used to…How about you. Got any precarious metals you’re gonna sell?
        1- I got some old platinum tip spark plugs I been saving from the lawnmower. Been saving them for years. Think I got about eight. But I don’t really want to sell at a low point. You know how investments are, gotta be careful not to bail out at the bottom.
        2- I know what you mean. A few months ago when gold dropped for a few days, I got scared and almost sold the wifes wedding ring. It’s pure 10 carrot gold but it has a slight flaw. They misspelled carrot when they marked it at the factory.
        1- Hopefully it wouldn’t be noticed by whoever you sold it to. Got any other precocious metals?
        2- Yeah. Since I know you so well, I know you won’t tell anybody, but me and the wife’s got a nice little nest egg in gold.
        1- Really? What ya got? Bars? Coins? Some of that ‘grocery store gold’…what do they call it…Kroger-Anns?
        2- Nah, it’s even better than that. We got three old picture frames that are real gold. They’re heavy too, and must be worth a small fortune. I weighed ’em once and the three of ’em together are nearly two pounds! And they say ‘pure gold’ right on the back.
        1- That’s fantastic!
        2- Yep. That’ll be our retirement fund I suppose. And since you know quite a bit about these things, I been meaning to ask you…Where is “leaf’ brand gold made, anyway?

        • It’s amazing what you can learn just hangin’ around some ol bar..

        • ya gotta put these in abook.LOL

      19. Student Punished For Christian Faith

        Texas High school: “When the topic was brought up in German class, a 14 year old boy told the student behind him that he was a Christian and that he believed being a homosexual was wrong.” For this, the school suspended the student for 2 days.

        source: Godfather Politics

        • how much more in the toilet can schools get????

        • Saw this too. Made me absolutely sick. This boy is a GOOD KID, a GOOD SON and a GOOD STUDENT. Last I heard, his parents hired an attorney and the school rescinded his suspension. The GD liberals weren’t satisfied with taking over the media; now they’re going after our children. I hope the other parents band together and ask for that idiot teacher’s head on a platter.

          • Looks like another school that has volunteered to pay for a kid’s college.

            • problem is when sued, the tax payers of that community are the ones sued..issues like this need to get to the Civil level, sue the fuck head themselfs, not the city or community..because they are sueing you and I..

              go after the people that are making these idiotic moves, personally..just like the cops, they dont care if they stomp all over your rights, you sue the city they work for and they get “paid leave”,,..maybe

              the way this shit is going to get reeled in is when people wake up to this fact and start going after these ass holes with a civil suit

        • Lord we HAVE to have a seperation of school and state.

          Public education is simply indoctrination. Oh, and a place where pervs can find young victims for their sexual gratification.

      20. was waiting for the market correction in silver and gold to happen. figured it would when helicopter ben started screwing up again.

        hope it stays down longer than a week so i can buy some more.

        • I believe the stocks will go down more next week Francesca. Not sure when the sheep smart’n up and get on the right side of the hot five wire fence. The longer that they don’t, the better for the smart ones but the corrupt ones know that too. Buy what you can afford even if it’s a little.

      21. PS everything still selling hot on ebay.

      22. I cant wait! There’s a free concert in the park tonight!
        For the opening act, they were gonna have one of those impersonation/tribute bands of Quiet Riot. They couldn’t afford the tribute band, so they got the real Quiet Riot instead. They’ll be singing all one of their hit songs, too!
        Then the real treat….Melvin & The Moonbats! Remember them from the 60’s? This ought to be a fabulous show. They’ll be doing all their old Top 40 hits, like-
        ‘The Sky Is Falling’
        ‘Run, The Sky Is Really Falling’ and
        ‘Run Faster, The Sky Is Really Falling This Time And I Mean It.’
        Plus, they’ve promised to play every one of their many number 1 hits, including-
        ‘We’ll Never Make It To 1970’
        ‘We’ll Never Make It To 1973’
        ‘We’ll Never Make It To 1975’
        ‘We’ll Never Make It To 1977’ and their platinum selling
        ‘We’ll Never Make It To 1980’

        Please, out of respect for the band, remember that the guys are getting older and, since the drummer has really bad arthritis, they can’t do the fast songs anymore. So please don’t request them to play ‘Catastrophic Contortionist’ or ‘Crash Boom Bah.’ Even so, this is sure to be an awesome concert, and it’s FREE! Don’t miss it!
        (*special thanks to our corporate sponsor: Reynolds Aluminum Hats, Inc)

        • You have got to be a pleasure to live with and be around…gosh..I wonder if others here want a drink after reading your chit!??!!??

        • Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends
          We’re so glad you could attend – come inside, come inside
          ELP were ahead of their time back in 1971…

      23. I contacted My Gold & Silver Dealer this afternoon & scheduled to be there on Monday morning to buy some more God & Silver Eagles. My investing strategy for 25 years, has been buy on bad news sell on good news. Said another way….go the opposite way from the sheep. Sheep always get slaughtered ! Every time Gold, Silver, or Lead goes down…I see it as a buying opportunity. I don’t reccomend using next weeks grocery money…but if you have any disposable income… I kind of look at metals like I look at Home Owners insurance. I have it so I can sleep well at night. I really don’t think my house will burn down….but then the Montgomery County wild fire a couple weeks back got within 2 miles…way too close for comfort. Anyhow….while I expect that I will not need my homeowners insurance…I have it. Same with Gold Silver & Lead. I hope I never need the first two….or the last one to protect the first two….but I’m ready if SHTF. On a posative note….it has finally cooled down here in Montgomery County Texas… is actually nice enough to go outside & enjoy it. I hope this fall weather lasts for a couple months before winter hits. Y’all have a great weekend !

        • Ah, but if yer house burned to the ground all you’d haave to do is look thru the ashes near where you had your metals stashed and “Ah Ha!” You’d find a melted pile of crappy looking gold that is worth just as much as it was before the fire.

          Don’t ty that with FRNs.

      24. Lets see if I can really figure all this out quite simply

        Give us more money and we will fix it, we do and it gets worse.

        Give us even more money and we will fix it, we do and it gets worse.

        And long last they say give us all your money and we will really fix it, Honest, we will

        • “We’re from the government – we’re here to help.”

          • Whom do you mean by “WE”?

            THEM or US?


      25. Eve Of Financial Collapse: 2011 Like 1932?
        London, UK – 23rd September 2011, 9:10 GMT
        Is history about to repeat itself or rhyme? They will say, nobody saw it coming. Who could have predicted it…? It is worth noting that the 1932 stock market crash is deemed to be the worst in the 20th century and not the one in 1929. It occurred three years after the first crash. In September 2011, we are now approximately three years after the financial crash of 2008-09, which was triggered by the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers on September 15th, 2008.

        • Ya’, but the un-education system does not teach history. Just look at GWB, “The Constitution is just a piece of paper”.

          True history is and always lost to the victor. The victors here are the (gag) elite banksters whom ALWAYS fund both sides of every conflict.

          This always allows THEM to shape history.

          Should the truth be out there, then it is far from the reach of many.

          Only when you WAKE UP can one begin that journey to the outer reaches where truth has been hidden.

          May your journey be safe, interesting and fruitful.


      26. I hope and pray for everyone reading this, we have bigger problems than money, just read the book one second after, about emp blast in america, knock us to the dark ages in well “one second” gold won’t matter at all then just supplies and bullets, image if all stores closed permanently, all water and electric went off permanently, you could no longer get you medicine, ever.

        Listening to Glenn Beck thursday, interviewed a spy we had in Iran, said it will happen in America is just a matter of time. Do your research and find out for yourself. Plan like you would be living in the 1700’s. Anyways read the book if you want, I encourage you todo so!


          Part of a longer vision.

          he will give them that are wicked to the sword,
          America, 50,000,000 abortions(MURDERS)!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          Suddenly the silence was shattered by the screaming of sirens. The sirens seemed to scream, “RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!”

          Never before had I heard such shrill, screaming sirens. They seemed to be everywhere–to the north, the south, the east, and the west. There seemed to be multitudes of sirens; and as I looked, I saw people everywhere running, but it seemed none of them ran more than a few paces, and then they fell. And even as I had seen the Statue of Liberty struggling to regain her poise and balance and finally falling for the last time to die on her face, I now saw millions of people falling in the streets, on the sidewalks, struggling. I heard their screams for mercy and help. I heard their horrible coughing as though their lungs had been seared with fire. I hear d the moanings and groanings of the doomed and the dying. As I watched, a few finally reached shelters, but only a few ever got to the shelters.

          Above the moaning and the groaning of the dying multitudes, I heard these words: “A noise shall come even to the ends of the earth, for the Lord hath a controversy with the nations. He will plead with all flesh; he will give them that are wicked to the sword, saith the Lord. Thus saith the Lord of hosts, Behold, evil shall go forth from nation to nation, and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth, and the slain of the Lord shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth. They shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground.” (Jeremiah 25:31-33)

          Then suddenly I saw from the Atlantic and from the Pacific and out of the Gulf rocket-like objects that seemed to come up like fish leaping out of the water. High into the air they leaped, each headed in a different direction, but every one toward the United States. On the ground the sirens screamed louder, and up from the ground I saw similar rockets beginning to ascend. To me these appeared to be interceptor rockets although they arose from different points all over the United States; however, none of them seemed to be successful in intercepting the rockets that had risen from the ocean on every side. These rockets finally reached their maximum height, slowly turned over and fell back toward the earth in defeat.

          Then suddenly the rockets which had leaped out of the oceans like fish all exploded at once. The explosion was ear-splitting. The next thing which I saw was a huge ball of fire. The only thing I have ever seen which resembled the thing I saw in my vision was the picture of the explosion of the H-bomb somewhere in the South Pacific. In my vision it was so real that I seemed to feel a searing heat from it.

          As the vision spread before my eyes and I viewed the widespread desolation brought about by the terrific explosions, I could not help thinking, While the defenders of our nation have quibbled over what means of defense to use and neglected the only true means of defense–faith and dependence upon the true and living God–the thing which she greatly feared has come unto her! How true it has proven in Psalms 127:1: Except the Lord build the house, they labour in vain that build it; except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.

          • Thanks for the verses, I will look them today.

            As for the post below, I am a firm believer in the 911 truth movement, this only proves the point, for the lengths they will go to in an attempt to control the mass’. So sir name calling does nothing to prove your point, I would suggest let the facts prove you point, and leave the name calling to the neo con, illumanist, zionist etc. Thanks

          • jrsmac: You are entitled to your dreams and visions. You are not entitled to mix Scripture with YOUR FUCKING VISIONS.

            I for one find it extremely offensive. You are not a prophet. Get over it. You are fucking delusional.

            • Neither are you a prophet.

            • Fred: Fred I have never claimed to be, and I don’t mix my analysis with Scripture.

          • Wow – going to church with you must be a real party.

            You aren’t real into the “joy” part of worship, are you?

            • Daisy: He deliberately mixes Scripture and lies to spread his propaganda. Read his next post. He has posted that before. Its a lie.

              He is a self styled pastor misrepresenting Chritianity and the Bible yet claims to be an authority on it.

              I pointed out the fact that the Bible in Revelation specifically ID’s the Babylon of the Last Days as Rome weeks ago. There is no controversy about this anywhere, but in his mind. He saw that post and reponded to it.

              That he would continue to post something that is clearly not factual as gospel reveals his true intent: to spread fear, lies, and propaganda.

              Its bullshit, and I will call the sonnabitch on it every time I see it.

            • Good for you, Durango. People like that, with the hellfire and brimstone, scare people away from Christianity.

              I’m not really big on quoting, but just to get the unpleasant taste of his rant out of my mouth:

              “The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness…..”
              Gal. 5:22

            • Daisy: I’m a Christian, not a Saint! 🙂

            • The Christian’s Golden Calf

              “Not all Christians, mind you, but a great many Christians from throughout Christendom have exchanged biblical Christianity for imperial Christianity.”


            • Clark: Vance is an idiot. Some Christians may be war mongers (like Bush)but so are some Jews, and so are some Muslims, and so are some catholics for that matter.

              Why does Vance omit these other religions from his rant and only condemn “some Christians”? Considering that is is also posted at LOU ROCKWALL I have no doubt that this is more PROPAGANDA from LOU.

              Anything to undermine America, weaken OUR economy or military and gut the middle class, even it is just by attacking American support for their sons and daughters, husbands and wives in the military: patriots all!!!

              More FUCKING PROPAGANDA from the source of it all, LOU ROCKWALL!

            • It’s quite clear, 31 Ways To Tell

              Are You an Imperial Christian?

              “…I understand why you are an imperial Christian. Repent.”


        • Great book!! I’m going over to Black Mountain, NC next month for a couple of days…been curious about the town every since I read the book!! An EMP attack is my husbands biggest fear…

        • Glen Beck is a dick. Should there be ‘that’ EMP, it will be at the hands of TPTB.

          Do not be conned into the mindset which most still are since 911!


      27. is not selling any of their graded 69/70 ASE’s with the price “correction”. Imagine that!

        • Good piece of intel here… Interesting… I suspect they, like we, know this is a temporary ‘correction.’ Even if it takes a year for silver/gold to head back up, the long-term trend remains intact. Apollo 2000.

      28. One second After is an excelent read. I reccomend it to anyone who is serious about prepping for SHTF. I found it rather informative…even though it is a work of fiction. It really made me think about things that I really did not want to consider as a remote possibility. An EMP attack would change the world around us in ways we can only imagine. You will realize that Food, Fuel, Medicine, & weapons are very important…now that you can’t get anymore……….
        Prep now……& if you never need it……yjat will be a good problem to have !
        As for metals , I believe that Mac is dead on…just a temporary correction. I’m in for the long haul. Just try to put a little away every quarter.

        • Thanks for the back up on the book, made me cry more thank once, “all this just because someone turned the electric off” I never seen society as fragile as I do now. Just like the deception of fiat currency. Only works all parties agree to it value, so to society, our current norms are all based upon our current situation, lights on water running etc. When the common standard we all rely on is changed. Then the absence of our current norm, will make the less good willed among us act like they always wanted! Will no system in place to stop them anymore, you better be ready!

        • Read Revelation chapter 18.
          It is about America.
          There is a lot of symbolism in Revelation.
          The word Babylon is used, but it is America that is being talked about.

          How can a nation be brought to ruin in one hour?
          Nuclear Attack!
          America is under God’s Judgment!

          Revelation 18:19 They will throw dust on their heads, and with weeping and mourning cry out:

          “‘Woe! Woe to you, great city,
          where all who had ships on the sea
          became rich through her wealth!
          In one hour she has been brought to ruin!’

          20 “Rejoice over her, you heavens!
          Rejoice, you people of God!
          Rejoice, apostles and prophets!
          For God has judged her
          with the judgment she imposed on you.”

          • jrsmac: You are STILL trying to label America as Babylon after I showed you that the Bible SPECIFICALLY identifies Rome as Babylon?

            Babylon is SPECIFICALLY identified in Revelation for anyone to read. It is not Ameerica. It is ROME you FUCKING LIAR!

            That you contine to repeat this falsehood shows that you are a FUCKING LIAR trying to spread fear and propaganda.

            Can’t you read English?

            Revelation identifies Babylon as the Mother of Harlots that sits on seven hills. That is ROME and that identification is commonly accepted by virtually all Bible Scholars and Christians everywhere.

            Everywhere but YOU!

            YOU are a LIAR and FALSE PROPHET! Everyone needs to recognize your lies. The Bible is SPECIFIC about who Babylon is in the Last Days.

            The fact that you expressly contradict the Bible you quote, to spread lies and fear is propaganda, and it evidences that you take your cue from the Father of Lies!

            YOU ARE A FUCKING LIAR AND FALSE PROPHET! Shove the link to your lying website up your ass!

            • Wow DK this guy struck a cord with you huh? I just try and ignore the trolls but I too get mad sometimes.

            • jrsmac isn’t a troll.. he’s a regular contrib and posts really good items..

              A bit harsh, DK; unusually so..

            • People research what I have posted for yourselves.
              Believe it or not.
              It is here for your warning.
              Take heed, get close to God.
              The end of America is near.
              Durango Kidd as the Word says,
              …bless those who curse you, pray for those who abuse you.
              Luke 6:28
              God bless Durango Kidd, and show him the light.
              in Jesus’ Name, amen.

            • Stealth: Every one is entitled to their opinion, analysis, dreams and visions, but you cannot allow the trolls to push fear and propaganda to spread dissention and disinformation, when they MIX genersally accepted truth and lies. That IS propoganda. The facts are bad enough, but not so bad that WE cannot adapt, change and address OUR problems.

              Trolls must be called out for this type of trash, and harshly.

              Free Trade has been sold to Americans as a FREEDOM which is why they have willingly accepted the managed trade of the GB’s that has gutted the American economy and is detroying the middle class.

              Then WE wonder why 45 million Americans are on food stamps and 16-22% are unemployed, while the shills blame the transfer of 42,400 factories, or more, offshore, because of “over regulatiion”.

              What a croc of shit! It has been a deliberate plan to destroy America, guided by the PTB, to make Americans economic serfs and dissolve the US Constitution for One World Government.

              This asshole deliberately smears America as Babylon to suggest that America is being judged by Almighty God; that OUR destruction is justified by the will of God and that WE deserve all of the destruction that comes OUR way, because it is the plan of God and “says so” in Revelation.

              That is the FUCKING LIE!

              He is spreading this lie deliberately, despite the fact that Revelation CLEARLY identifies Bablyon as Rome. He claims to know the Bible but LIES about it. I have pointed this out to him before, yet he continues to spread this garbage as gospel. It is not.

              America is beset by many enemies, both within and without. We must identify these enemies when they expose themselves like this and nutralize them and their lies, right now!

            • jrsmac: Indeed, everyone should read Revelations for themselves; then they will see that the Bible CLEARLY identifies Babylon as the Mother of Harlots and the city that sits upon seven hills; that this city is Rome and that YOU are a FUCKING LIAR!

              Washington DC sits on a flood plain you asshole!

              The “end of America” is not near. But your lie IS at an end. You have been exposed as a FUCKING LIAR deliberately spreading falsehoods and propaganda!

      29. if youv’e read “one second after, patriots , alas babylon, the road” and still don’t prep your’e sick.even if you don’t EVER have to apply your prep in that direction the shear flexibility it gives your outlook on life is PRICELESS! What say you?

        • Your right, sacrifice now get things set for the long haul, and then you can go back to life as normal, but america with all the wealth and goods at hand, we don’t prepare, we entertain ourselves to death, don’t get me wrong I like to forget about things to, but let’s get first thing first, then relax. “If you have a family, and are not prepping atleast little, then…”

          • Exactly! We went on our usual summer vacation, except this year we had a few extra bags in the car. Get Home Bags that is.

        • I’ve read them all and as of this moment, the sky is still intact and where it should be.

      30. In the military I taught War Skills to new medics. People feared Chemical and Biological far more than nuclear warfare. The attitude was to work until the bright flash overtook us. We always were aware of EMP and knew the 1860s were not far off. Now 35 years later it has a real possibility to happen. Learn about old diseases, and their prevention for yourself and families.
        Get those first aid kits up to date with tripple the supplies you think you’ll need. Get over the counter stuff set aside. Plan, Prep, Pray.

        • And don’t forget veterinary – some things are far easier to get when you shop at the vet supply store. We have a good store of antibiotics, etc., from this source!

          • i used the fish meds amox earlier this for bacterial infection. 500mg and 250mg are available. check out patriot nurse on youtube.

        • GOOD READING:http:



          A shocking Russian Finance Ministry report prepared for Prime Minister Putin is warning today that massive liquidity runs on American and European financial institutions over the past fortnight are in danger of collapsing the entire global economic system leaving war as the only “option” for the West to use to protect itself from complete obliteration.

          According to this report, the genesis of this current crisis began on 20 July when the United States Federal Reserve Bank began calling in nearly all of the zero-interest loans it had secretly made to American and European banks between December 2007 and June 2010 that the first ever audit of the US Government Accountability Office discovered was a staggering $16 Trillion!

          The reason for the US Federal Reserve calling in these $16 Trillion worth of loans, this report continues, was due to the American political leadership classes’ failure to address their nations shocking debt of nearly $15 Trillion, and when coupled with their unfunded liability claims of over $114 Trillion is further warned will soon bring the greatest economic power on earth to economic ruin, and hence drag the rest of the world down with it.

          The United States “charade” of reaching their so-called “deal” on raising their debt limit, thus prompting the US Federal Reserve to act, caused Putin to declare this past week that the Americans have now become a “parasite” on the global economy due to their Congress passing a bill, signed by Obama, that cuts nothing from their budget and, instead, “limits” the increase of their future spending.

          According to the respected American anti-war activist Justin Raimondo about this dept farce foisted upon the citizens of his country, and in his column titled Why Is America Committing Suicide?, ….. “Only in Washington, D.C., is a “cut” actually an increase.”

          To how fearful the American elite classes have become about the rush to liquidity of the Western banks the Wall Street Journal reported yesterday that the fastest-growing asset on bank balance sheets this year is cash. Since the beginning of the year, US bank holdings of cash are up 83%, or $890 billion, to $1.98 Trillion. Consumer loans, by contrast, have grown 0.2%, or $1.7 billion. Commercial and industrial loans are up 3.8%, or $46.1 billion.

          So overburdened have American banks become with excess cash from their elite customers that the Bank of New York Mellon on Thursday took the extraordinary step of telling its large clients it was going to start charging them to hold cash, and which, of course, caused a record amount of US Dollars to flow into Brazil seeking protection from the greater chaos soon to come.

          In even grimmer news the US reported yesterday that just 58% of work-age Americans have jobs, the lowest since July 1983, that when coupled with a record 45.8 million of these people receiving Food Stamps clearly shows a society near total collapse, if not outright civil war. [Note: The situation in the US has deteriorated to the point where reports are now coming in showing their disenfranchised black population is rising up in revolt.]

          Important to note about the over 20% of the US population that is jobless is that their elite political class is continuing to deceive these people about the future in that with nearly 80% of these unemployed masses being part of the “Baby Boom” generation (i.e. over 50) there are no government jobs programmes (such as infrastructure building) they are able to do.

          Unbeknownst to the majority of these people is that the times they are living in today are an exact mirror of those experienced by their ancestors during last centuries Great Depression of the 1930’s, including: 1.) vast numbers of homeless and jobless; 2.) millions thrown out of their homes through foreclosures; 3.) crippling drought sending massive dust storms across the land; and 4.) an elite class protecting their wealth and status at the expense of the downtrodden. [Note: Where during the Great Depression the massive dust storms came from a crippling drought of the upper Midwestern portions of the US, today’s tragedy is coming from the lower Midwest, mainly Texas, where hundreds of millions of tonnes of once fertile top soil is being blown in giant dust storms across the American west.]

          For the Western peoples, especially the Americans, who have failed to heed our civilizations greatest warning that “those who fail to heed history and its lessons are doomed to repeat it,” lie the greatest dangers as the only way capitalistic systems are able to survive is through war, and according to the experts now it is coming much sooner than later.

          The first stirrings of Total Global War to protect the American and Western economies were first sounded this past spring by top Obama advisor, New York Times columnist and Nobel Prize winning economist Paul Krugman who last year said: “From an economic point of view World War II was, above all, a burst of deficit-financed government spending, on a scale that would never have been approved otherwise. Over the course of the war the federal government borrowed an amount equal to roughly twice the value of G.D.P. in 1940, the equivalent of roughly $30 trillion today.…this slump can be cured. All it will take is a little bit of intellectual clarity, and a lot of political will.”

          Krugman was joined in his “war thinking” this past week by his fellow economic “intellectual” and CNBC analyst Marc Faber, author of the highly popular “Gloom-Boom-Doom Report,” who warned all of his readers yesterday to “Brace for a Global ‘Reboot’ and a War.”

          And to how close this war is we can ascertain from Russia’s envoy to NATO Dmitry Rogozin who yesterday warned that the United States and its Western allies are planning a military campaign against Syria to help overthrow the regime of President Bashar al-Assad with the long-reaching goal of preparing a beachhead for an attack on Iran, and which, of course, would start World War III as neither Moscow or Beijing will allow this to happen.

          Most important to note about all of these dire events now occurring are that there are those of us who continually seek to keep you informed and educated about what is really going on, and at great risk too. In fact, to what is happening today we first warned about in our 28 June 2007 report titled “US Banking Collapse ‘Imminent’ Warns French Banking Giant,” when the price of gold was barely $400 an ounce.

          Distressingly our warning fell on the deaf ears of those refusing to accept anything other than the “official” lies of their propaganda media and political overlords. But, to those few who did listen, and upon listening acted, they are now secure because they took their savings from the banks and converted it into gold and other precious metals.

          To those of you still refusing to believe the truth, even though it’s staring you in the face, we can only tell you it still isn’t too late to protect yourself and your family. But you first must stop listening to the lies!

          • Are you a Sorcha Faal fan?

      31. Food is more important than gold when your child is starving. Food will be exchanged for gold only if the seller has plenty of food.

        Lead is more precious than gold when you need to give some away to protect your children.

        • You got it right!

        • redundancy in depth.plan,plan,plan. then adapt;improvise and overcome. you got it sargemage.AF taught me the greatest resource is me. if you ain’t got it ;make it; can’t make it;trade for it; can’t trade for it; work around it. there is always a solution. thank you for your service[salute].

      32. Can’t afford gold or silver. Do they have copper or tin bullion?

        • If nothing else, quality copper can be obtained from an electrical supply house in the form of grounding conductor on a roll. I think it is still sold by the pound. There are probably other, more convienent shapes available.

      33. One of the few politicians that tells the truth, and is not afraid to do so..

        The world needs more Nigels…

      34. Two relevant things to mention, both from over at The Golden Truth…

        From Dave

        One Last Pre-Weekend Thought:
        It’s always paid off following Sinclair’s wisdom – it will this time too: READ THIS

        We’re at the point in the evolution of our system at which it is corrupt beyond reckoning, right down the Chicago-style political thug in the White House. Geithner has been laughed at and ridiculed all week in Europe. He has no shame because I would have gotten the hell out there already.

        We’ve seen this this violent action before and it scares that shit out of everyone. But those who hold always come out ahead and those who add to positions come out even more ahead.

        The more desperate they get, the more volatile the metals become. But remember, volatility works both ways. Even if you bought at the market in both gold and silver in March 2008, you are still roughly 65% better off today than you were in at the end of that brutal selloff if you just simply held on to your positions. Some of us actually bought some silver after it was artificially slammed from $21 down to $9.

        I’m actually more concerned about what it is that they are setting us up for – i.e. what kind of really bad news is coming our way. We know empirically that the banking system, most State Governments and the Federal Government are de facto insolvent. But what is the next big financial volcano that’s about to erupt?

        Go do something fun this weekend and know that at some point between now and a year from the metals will much higher..

        Anonymous said…
        This guy is spot on…it will be fun when certain actors are done!

        Mr Lennon Hendrix

        Make no mistake about it, we are in the fight of our lives. On one side are criminal banksters, ivy league professors locked in their towers, and old school blue blood families. Their status has been unimpeded for generations. They have lived lavishly through revolutions, made their way through depressions, and felt the wind at their backs for the last 70 odd years. Yet somewhere along the line their plans got muddled, and they lost sight of their goals. They became fixated on consolidating power, and their reality gave way to ideals.

        Victory will be had by real monie, because the dollar has no backing and is an amalgamation of creative thinking. Alchemy took hold of money after the philosopher’s stone failed. The dollar has no intrinsic value; it has no general worth and is merely an IOU. The dollar is backed by lies.

        Silver is real monie. This real monie has had the same short positions unjustly levied against it. Since silver is cheap, it is rather easy for us to target. It is the belly of the beast.

        • A good analogy is that Roman silver coins are worth more than Confederate paper money.

      35. OK. I am a little frustrated by the scorn heaped upon those that believe we are in an historic turning point, TEOTWAWKI. The number one criticism is always “When! When is the S going to HTF?”

        Well POA has news for you. It IS going to HTF. It ain’t gonna be pretty. And I KNOW when it’s gonna happen. Yup. Exactly when it is all coming down.

        But I ain’t gonna tell you.

        At least not for free. This kind of information is worth something. It is worth a lot. So here’s what all you guys (and gals) that want the exact date & time are gonna do.

        Your going to go out and find a nice 28′-0 North River Seahawk with the enclosed cabin with head and mini galley. Or you could find a Hewes Craft Pacific Explorer. Same size. Either one. Must have all the goodies, RADAR, marine VHF, GPS dual sonar, 120 volt generator, the whole nine yards. Your going to have the boat all fueled up, some food, a frdge full of Alaskan Amber and plenty of bait. Have the boat moored at Hammond boat launch near Astoria, OR. I’ll take the boat out and after about an hour I’ll call on the radio and let you know when your gonna get screwed.

        Damn fine plan. Any takers? 😉

        • We’ll pass – we like surprises! :]

      36. Russian Space Forces are reporting today that the United States Air Force has shot down a 1 Kiloton nuclear armed cruise missile targeting the Denver International Airport in the State of Colorado that was fired from an as yet ‘unidentified’ aircraft able to penetrate the North American air defense system after US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) computer and communications systems was ‘shut down’, an ‘event’ eerily reminiscent to the attacks on September 11, 2001.

        Immediately following this attack the Commander of military forces protecting North America ordered an ‘immediate review’ of America’s air defense systems, though in his public statements he failed to inform the American people about this attack.

        So powerful was the explosion of this nuclear armed cruise missile over the skies of the Western parts of the United States that there are reports of it being seen, and heard in Colorado, Utah, Nevada and California. The US Spaceweather.Com news site has also posted a photo [3rd photo left] taken of the debris field left by this explosion in the skies over Colorado, though to all of these Western propaganda reports it is being blamed on a meteorite. Spaceweather.Com is also confirming the Russian Space Forces estimate of the size of this explosion as being in the 1 kiloton range.

        The targeting, by what are believed to be forces in the United States loyal to President Obama, of the Denver International Airport, these reports continue, is an ‘expected’ outcome of Obama’s ‘life and death’ battle against both the powerful Federal Reserve Banking System and its ‘Global enforcer’, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) as this airport has long been rumored to be one of the main evacuation centers for the elite ruling classes in the US intent upon the destruction of their own Nation.

        And so bizarre is the history of this ‘New World Airport’ located in Denver that upon entering its main terminal one is greeted by a giant mural [photo bottom left] that shows “an African woman in colorful native garb; a Native American woman who’s heritage the airport’s art supposedly celebrates; a blonde girl with cupid bow lips, a Star of David on her chest and a bible in her hands. Each lay dead in open coffins for your viewing pleasure. A burning city, children sleeping on piles of bricks, a line of mourning women in rags with dead babies, limp in their arms. A huge, looming military figure in a gas mask brandishes a sword and machine gun killing a white dove of peace. Part of an actual note written by a child interred in a Nazi death camp. Strange words embedded in the floor with no explanation about what they mean”, and leading one American, Doug McGivens of Glen Burnie, Maryland, to state, “What in God’s name is that all about? Man, that’s sick!”

        The timing of this attack, these reports further state, was an attempt by forces loyal to Obama to regain control over their country by showing both the Federal Reserve and CIA that they are as willing as their enemies to use force, an ‘object lesson’ the US Congress took immediate notice of when within hours of this attack a key committee of the House of Representatives voted for a sweeping Congressional audit of the secretive Federal Reserve.

        Also emboldened by these events were US Congressman, who during a hearing yesterday, and again within hours of this attack, slammed the current US Treasury Secretary and former head of the New York Branch of the Federal Reserve Tim Geithner and called for his immediate resignation.

        Obama forces have likewise stepped up their attack on the CIA with the President’s National Intelligence Security Director Dennis Blair moving to assert his authority over this rouge spy agency reported to have funneled over $1 Trillion to the Bush-Cheney drug cartel for the use of the American ‘New World Order’ factions through their operations in both Colombia and Afghanistan.

        Not all has been going in favor of Obama, however, as China’s Premier Wen Jiabao shot down the American President’s plea for a US-Chinese alliance he called the G-2 against the G-20 Globalists as Beijing’s Communist leadership believes that he, Obama, will not be able to withstand the withering assault against the US Dollar, and which the International Monetary Fund has just called to be replaced as the World’s reserve currency.

        Even worse for Obama is the Global effort underway to shut down what is called the ‘Carry Trade’ in US Dollars that had last completely destroyed the economy of Iceland and has led one of Europe’s largest banks, Société Générale, to warn all of its clients “to be ready for a possible “global economic collapse” over the next two years”, and leading many financial experts to state that the price of gold will soon hit $2,000 an ounce.

        To the state of the American people knowing about these events there is little evidence as the web of lies, distortion and propaganda spread over them by their elitist government-corporate overseers continues to hold them in place not knowing to which direction they should turn. Most unfortunately for people like this, and as history has always shown, they are always the first to be sacrificed with never knowing the true facts behind the reasons they had to die because they failed to learn the difference between who was telling them the truth, and who was lying to them.

        The Jewish peoples in Europe learned this hard lesson many years ago, now it is the Americans time. We can only hope they awaken soon before all is lost for them.

        • You lost me at RICH says.
          Nice try though.

          • You had me at Smokin.

        • And what is the reason YOU are not telling the whole story here. This happened in November of 2009!!!!!!!

          What are you, a CIA operative!!!!????

          Who are you really, Sorcha Faals!!!!????


      37. This seems to be all true, and yet things continue on as if all is well. Houses, cars, boats, vacations, football games, eating out, taking trips. Credit cards, food stamps, big screen tvs and iphones.

        The rats are still on the wheels and the wheels have yet to come off.

        So when is the big collapse?

      38. One great example is california, which has been broke and handing out IOUs for years.

        But it never collapses. Why? If it is broke and in such bad shape, how does it hang on and even thrive?

        Come on guys, how come?

        • Stan, I read the books are ‘cooked’..that each state has a balance sheet, that we get to know about, and a ‘secret’ balance sheet, only a few in the right positions get to know about…I forgot what it’s called…but there are billions in this account….

          Any input Mac about this ‘special’ state accounting??

          So, stan, maybe that’s the origination of this money ‘not there’!

          And also, has anyone noticed the court houses being built in the last year?? Our little county just built a 12 million, yes, ladies and gentlemen, 12 million dollar one –use it or lose it?? This is how ‘stupid’ our govt is!!! Transfer those funds to a need..for God’s sake, this is treason!!!! Now, we have a huge empty building!!

          And a little county west is building one too!!!

          Just saying, stan, I can’t explain the monies unless CALIFORNIA is kin to Ben.

        • Because it always VOTES Democrat, look at Pelosi, she ownes half of StarFish Tuna and Jerry Brown who got run off once before and gets re-elcted. California is just a Beta State that they do tests on

        • Almonds Stan. Its the almonds keeping California afloat. Some times I feel like a nut. Sometimes I don’t.

      39. Straw Poll Results In! Flexible/Bendy Straws Win By Wide Margin; Straight Straws A Respectable 2nd; Curly Straws Distant 3rd

        I stopped in at Moe’s Mosey-On-In Cafe this morning and someone mentioned a ‘straw poll’ but nobody seemed to be sure just what it’s all about. Whatever that is, they’re having one in Florida, so we decided to take our own straw poll among the customers, mostly farmers and ranchers.
        The results we got were- Wheat straw won with 60%, Oat stubble got 30% and alfalfa got 10% (even though it’s grown more for the grass blade than the straw/stem part of the plant.) Not sure how our straw poll will change anything, but it started some lively discussions over coffee.
        Speaking of coffee, I think there’s something odd going on down at Moe’s. My theory is that he’s buying his beans on the black market and getting them from Columbia or Brazil. And I suspect there may be some residual cross-contamination from other well known South American crops, possibly mara-jay-wanna. I don’t have any evidence of this, but the customers are certainly acting strange lately. I’ve seen guys order breakfast as many as three times, all while sitting there drinking a few dozen cups of coffee. And when they leave, they get out on the highway at about 12 mph, prop one foot up on the dash of their pick-up, and go down the road with a silly grin while listening to Pink Floyd. Hardly none of em’ like country music anymore.
        Moe says his coffee sales have tripled, and food sales are way up, too. The cook is happy though. Nobody seems to be in the mood to complain about anything, even her greasy fried eggs. Everybody is just so ‘mellow’ now. Heck, even the local Mormon boys have ditched their no-caffien pledge and started coming in for some. They’ll drink maybe 6 or 7 cups each, have a few burritos, and when they leave they often forget to take their bikes with ’em. They just saunter across the parking lot, giggling at each other.
        I’ll get to the bottom of this, one way or another. But, for now, I guess I’ll have another cup….and maybe a few more of them hotcakes…mmmm

      40. Dark Side of the Moon & A Great Day for Freedom

        • You are only coming through in waves, our lips move but I can’t hear what you say……

      41. NASA says they know that old satellite crashed back to earth, they just don’t know where yet. Well, I got news for them boys at the National Association of Space-type Aeronautics- the damned thing has landed right in the middle of my farm! Killed two of my best angus heifers and it scared the bull so bad, he’s huddled over in the corner of the pasture, curled up in a fetal position and chewing one of his hooves. He’s been like that for hours. Hope he snaps out of it in time for mating season because I can’t afford none of that artificial insinuation for the herd.
        That big hunk of space junk is still smoldering too. Glad it didn’t start a grass fire or NASA would be feeling the toe of my manure covered boot on their butts. You’d think that those pointy-headed smart boys would have at least given a guy some warning so he could move the herd into the barn or something.
        The vet’s already been out here this morning and couldn’t do anything for the bull. And he said we can’t even use the left over parts of the heifers for a barbeque. Something about possible crome-ararium contamination in the meat and it aint safe. If that dont beat all! Two dead cows, a wussified bull, and I still have to go to town and buy a brisket for tonight’s cookout. I tell you, some days it just don’t even pay to strap on your overalls. Makes me wish now that I’d accepted that offer as chief neurosurgeon at Johns Hopkins and never gone into farming.

      42. So I can take my Drillers baseball helmet off now?

        • All the big stuff has fallen. The John Deere cap should be sufficient protection now!

          • I was born with a silver fork in my mouth. Can I bring it?

      43. The Federal Reserve and the ECB will inflate the dollar and the euro until they’re worthless. So just as Zimbabwe printed a hundred trillion dollar note, so the Fed and ECB will do the same someday. So when gold is $1 billion an ounce it isn’t because gold is expensive but because the dollar is worthless.

        • Bill S: If WE were going to have hyper-inflation it would be here by now. It is not how much money that is printed that matters. It is how that money is deployed.

          When that money is used to replace losses and repair the balance sheets of the FED meber banks it is not in “circulation”. It is only replacing the dollars that FIDO ate.

          Chill out.

          • I’d say those dollars are hiding in the American City of Babylon just to see if I could get a rise out of you but I get skeered when you yell at the phony preacher. I sure as hell wouldn’t want to be on the receiving end when you get that pissed.

            Smile & ignore him.

            • POA: Thanks, but liars like this phoney preacher who are intentionally trying to decieve US must be exposed. One lie mixed into many truths is easily assimilated by the gullible and unaware.(read: sheeple).

              Americans have certain shared values like God and freedom. Propagandists use these values to sell US theirs and for their benefit. They have been very successful at it which is why WE find ourselves in the predicament that WE do today.

              Nothing that We cannot fix working together, but they have also been very succssful in dividing US one against the other by concentrating OUR attention on the symptoms rather than the cause.

          • Durango Kidd

            When the money buys T bills monetizing the debt it goes into circulation through the backdoor. Uncle Sam borrows money for “whatever” (entitlements, military) and there are no borrowers. Under “normal” circumstances that ends that. Interest rates must rise to attract more borrowers. The baseline amount of money however is fixed as the borrowers take money that would be spent by them or invested elsewhere and buy T bills that finance governmental spending. Now in the present this is by-passed and additional money just appears. It damn sure gets spent on the “whatever” and de-facto makes it into circulation. That is an increase in M1 without an increase in productivity. End result is inflation. Granted the velocity is down so the multiplier effect is reduced. The economy is collapsing faster then the injection of additional money is coming in. Make no mistake that additional money is coming in. Eventually it reaches a volume that with the slightest increase in spending inflation must result. A large enough mass moving slowly can pack as much energy as a small mass moving faster velocity squared or not.

            The creation of additional money is more then just a mark on a balance sheet. There are real world worries and concerns.

            • K2: I understand. But only if that money reaches the marketplace. It hasn’t. It has been “stuck” in the system according to Lew Rockwell. 🙂

              Actually it has just replaced the losses of the FED member banks for the most part (and continues to do so with respect to forclosures); except for the loans that have been made to international banks, nations, and multinationals.

              These to a large measure have a gone to replacing THEIR losses as well. It has also provided them (like our own banks) with a mechanism to borrow large sums from the FED at really low rates and then buy Treasuries and at a higher rate, and make the spread.

              This is the arbitrage I mentioned previously. This is why the banks and the mutinationals are loaded with cash and making a profit even when they are not using it to leverage their business and employ US.

              Bernanke has been draining that cash as of late and calling those loans since the Audit of the FED and it shows in the contraction of M3 (I believe). Maybe another reason that the dollar cycle has reversed a three year trend and is gaining strength.

              No hyper-inflation K2 but double digit inflation IS here.

      44. Heat on Holder for fast & furious. We need some expansion on this Okie.

        • Well, now that you mention it, I do have a few operatives looking into that. One of my sources is reliable, but very secretive. I’m not even sure of his real name and he drives a car that looks a lot like the one Will Smith had in “I, Robot.” Very fast and cool. His info is always primo, my shine is the best in the state, so we work a barter system. He’s never failed me yet. Last I heard from him was a transcript of a conversation which he got from either hacking the NSA headquarters or a pay phone at the 7-11. Wherever it came from, it’s blockbuster stuff. What follows is the bulk of the transcript. I had to redact a bit for obvious reasons. Plus, the names have been changed to protect the okies…

          Voice 1- (computerized) 27 clear…go up on eight…dual mode voice synthesizer encription enabled…proceed…
          Voice 2- …thing working now? Listen Z, the trigger has already been pulled! Know what I mean? Now, if you can’t find a target for it to hit real quick, then things are gonna start to go to (edit) all over the place! You. Me. The AG. AND Snoopy! Now, I need this taken care of immediately or (edit) hits the fan, big time!
          Voice 3- I understand L. Now, stop (edit) your pants and just give me a few more hours.
          V2- You don’t HAVE a few more hours! Somethin’s gotta happen NOW!(edit) or (edit) but get it done!
          V3- OK. OK. Look, I got the bird already in my sights. In fact, I’m parked just outside his house right now. The warrant is a signed blank check. We just fill in the date 5 minutes before we move. The SWAT team from Dallas will be here in an hour. Then we take him down, he dissapears, and all this (edit) goes away.
          V2- Who is it? Where are you? Don’t you DARE tell me you’re north of the red river right now!
          V3- Yeah, as a matter of fact I am L. But don’t worry, our bird is just a nobody. Some guy named (edit) He runs a pissant (edit)shine operation near (edit). He raises cows and drives a rusty-ass old truck, for pete’s sake!
          V2- Z, if you’re within 200 miles of Tulsa, you’re in quicksand and don’t even know it! This bird of yours is actually (edit). He (edit) the (edit) whole team in Afghanistan! You better get out of there NOW!
          V3- Who, this guy? He’s nothin’ I tell ya. He’s just some yokel from the sticks in (edit). He’s…wait a minute…there’s a bunch of (edit) rednecks in a couple of trucks just pulled in behind me. One of the drivers has a tranquilizer gun or something! Holy (edit) Now they’re unloeading a couple of sheep or (edit). L! You better get me outa this!….
          V2- Z! Z! Are you there!?….
          V1- (computerized) encription mode disabled…please deposit 75 cents for the next three minutes…

          I’m not sure what to make of this, but my source seemed to think it would be of great interest to me. I’ll keep analyzing it for clues.
          By the way, we’ve had an exciting week here in our quaint little village. Seems there was a Chicago businessman named ‘Smith’ who got arrested the other day for driving 80 mph thru town, and he was drunk! The bigger surprise though was that the deputy who stopped him ( my cousin, just a coincidence) found him doing some things in his car that are just too embarrassing to report. The local judge (by coincidence, another cousin) refused bail for him. And the district attorney (wife’s cousin, just a coincidence) has already got a guilty plea out of him. Looks like Mr. ‘Smith’ will be spending several years at the nearby prison (where a second cousin just happens to be warden- talk about your coincidences!).
          Oh, and we had some minor traffic problems too. A couple of flatbeds loaded with hay bales got turned over right in the middle of the road and blocked both highway bridges between here and Dallas. Imagine that, two similar accidents on two highways at the same time! What are the odds? Fortunately nobody was hurt and they got the roads opened in just a few hours.
          Anyway, getting back to fast & furious: we all know Holder is an idiot, and so is his boss. Let’s just hope they aren’t stupid enough to mess around with the wrong people in trying to cover this up!

          • Shooting liquid golden arch down wind off the red river bridge right now. Can’t stop officer. Don’t Accept it at the ATM. Flying doritos can hurt. Anybody seen one of those new $100 bills yet?

      45. I dunno I beleive in the long haul when buying PM’s and land and anything else that will help me self sustained in any crisis. I look at it like this if you buy a gun don’t ever sell it, YOU JUST MAY NEED IT J.I.C., I think I’ll sit on what I have and just observe but I read this earlier that might interest some on the Wall Street Journal

      46. Doule dip recession, drug shortages, due to lack of oversea resources and low profits, lack of jobs, mass layoffs,
        Were cooked, were fried, were done!

        • We all live in a yellow submarine, yellow submarine…

          • What would you do if I sang you a tune, would you stand up and walk out on me? Lend me you ear and I’ll sing you a song and I’ll try not to sing out of key. Oh, I get by with a little help from my friends……

            • We’ve only just begun! Nights in white satin. Kiss for luck and we’re on our way.

            • Radio plays some forgotten song
              Brenda Lee’s comin’ on strong

      47. I believe that this is nothing more than fear mongering. I followed this site closely for the past year and actually thought things would collapse. Being every headline hints at the same scenario and be honest, we all eat it up. We believed that having the foreknowledge of collapse would put us in the upper hand, yet in all honestly it sent us into a socially reclusive zone. We are not in the 18th century, nor will we ever live like that again. If things WERE to collapse, order would be restored in the next couple of years. As people, we have never went back in technology since ancient times. We are too intelligent of a species to let this happen to us. Sure banker fraud sucks and prices rise, but so do wages (in most cases). Times are tough but the sky is not falling (yet). Go out and live your life people. Stop waiting on the end to come and enjoy what time you have.

      48. LINK:

        Prior to getting these I had “Safety Glasses” the kind you buy in hardware stores in the “Bug Out Bag”.

        These allow you to wear glasses.

        Reason I bought them: Ever work in volcanic dust?
        I have and it is not something you want to do without eye protection from the dust. You know what volcanic dust look like under a microscope? glass particles.

        After 18 May 1980 I spent a lot of time in that volcanic dust environment; cleaning it from the roof of my house, out of the driveway and then threes full 12 days cleaning it off the streets on Fairchild AFB.Spokane, Wa. So I’m encouraging you to buy some for yourself. Good price right now on the web at REI.

        Since we have three volcanos within 100 miles – these could come in handy.

      49. URP – for those who still have people making fun of you about prepping.. you might try changing the subject briefly; then stearing it towards asking them if they have a 401K, retirement plan, etc. at work.. blah blah..
        That will probably get them talking.. at an appropriate point; you can with a straight face ask them why they bother saving for retirement at all.. maybe throw in that you think it is a waste of time and money that could be used now.. if done properly, they’ll try to convince you how important it is to save for your future.. especially if they care about you. Once they do, you’ve got them.. you can take it from there..

        If saving for a retirement that you might not even be alive to enjoy is wise, prudent and socially acceptible.. why is having some long lasting food, basic supplies and self protection abilities crazy, fear mongering and a waste of money ?

        They are in fact, one and the same.

      50. To me, this was the most GLARING example of what it is they are so desperate to save, and just how much trouble the banking system is in. Pulled from Zero Hedge, this is what it means to be Too Big To Fail. Full article linked below the excerpt. Don’t sweat the financial jargon if that’s not your thing, just scan for the TRILLIONS that are about to come undone! Farage knows this fact all too well, and our citizenry is learning fast! This is absolutely mind-blowing:

        From ZH:
        Five Banks Account For 96% Of The $250 Trillion In Outstanding US Derivative Exposure; Is Morgan Stanley Sitting On An FX Derivative Time Bomb?

        The latest quarterly report from the Office Of the Currency Comptroller is out and as usual it presents in a crisp, clear and very much glaring format the fact that the top 4 banks in the US now account for a massively disproportionate amount of the derivative risk in the financial system. Specifically, of the $250 trillion in gross notional amount of derivative contracts outstanding (consisting of Interest Rate, FX, Equity Contracts, Commodity and CDS) among the Top 25 commercial banks (a number that swells to $333 trillion when looking at the Top 25 Bank Holding Companies), a mere 5 banks (and really 4) account for 95.9% of all derivative exposure (HSBC replaced Wells as the Top 5th bank, which at $3.9 trillion in derivative exposure is a distant place from #4 Goldman with $47.7 trillion). The top 4 banks: JPM with $78.1 trillion in exposure, Citi with $56 trillion, Bank of America with $53 trillion and Goldman with $48 trillion, account for 94.4% of total exposure. As historically has been the case, the bulk of consolidated exposure is in Interest Rate swaps ($204.6 trillion), followed by FX ($26.5TR), CDS ($15.2 trillion), and Equity and Commodity with $1.6 and $1.4 trillion, respectively. And that’s your definition of Too Big To Fail right there: the biggest banks are not only getting bigger, but their risk exposure is now at a new all time high and up $5.3 trillion from Q1 as they have to risk ever more in the derivatives market to generate that incremental penny of return.

      51. NC guy, this is not hypothesis or conjecture or supposition. Just math. No amount of normalcy bias will save us. Just sayin.

      52. Investing your money or putting your saving in a bank right now is not very smart. The banking system and investment firms have proven they don’t know how to manage investment “RISKS”.

        Pull your money out and invest in something useful. Like food, ammunition, weapons, land, put something aside for repairs, property taxes and income taxes. That should get you through a couple of years.

        • Taxes? We ain’t gonna pay no stinking taxes!

          At least, not if I’m not paying the mortgage….

      53. The “stimulus” and bailouts of the bankrupt countries are laughable. The kvetching about “nonexistent” money having been pledged to be poured down the bottomless pit of debt is pathetic and misses the point entirely, the point being that the debt really is a bottomless pit and the money really doesn’t exist and never did exist. There is a lot of hand-wringing and woe being expressed over the collapse of a system which is evil and dishonest and which crushes the poor. The despicable central banks seem only to be interested in prolonging the process as much as possible. All fiat currencies eventually become worthless and then are abandoned. Alternative means of trading and transacting business then arise.

      54. Welcome to Bankster-Robbins 31 Flavors in Washington.
        *Comander in Chief Chocolate (actually half vanilla but you can’t tell)
        *Caramel Crash (with real bits of stocks mixed in)
        *Money Swirl Mocha Lite (50% paper, 50% digital)
        *Gravy Train (Strawberry with real pieces of shredded welfare checks)
        *Flaming Hypocrite Fudge (a gourmet ice cream, hand made by actual congressmen. we’re not sure is they washed their hands first)

        Our flavor of the month is ‘Economic Rocky Road’. It’s plain vanilla throughout, but has the illusion of lots of goodies mixed in. Will that be in a waffling politician cone? How about a double dip?

        • Is there a flavor called irrational exuberance?

      55. Only if its made in America

      56. I was thinking maybe a double dip of Bernanke Berry…..

      57. The ship hit the iceberg hours ago. The deck chairs are beginning to slide across the deck because the ship is listing horrendously and those not already in the lifeboats are doomed to the icy depths.

        Its over for America. The great ship is about to slip beneath the waves and history (written in Chinese or Indian) shall record that America and Europe died miserably. We can now list Americans along with the Incas, the Myans and Rome. Lost civilizations.

        bye America

      58. Something BIG commith, and right damn soon! The horror. Oh, the humanity… And the Euro markets are open. All markets are DOWN. Surprise! It pretty & awful. Warm up the dump truck. Turning one. Float the bubble. Turning two on the dream liner. This is better than 21 flavors and having your frozen cake. Queen Elizabeth III! Full speed a head. Turn off the runway lights, they are expecting it. Arriving gate 21, gate 27, going down? Please return your trays and seat to the upright position. If O2 masks fall from the ceiling you obviously purchased a ticket. It’s a bank, what do you want, a reach around. Look mommy, it’s a B-52 in the sky. Fish away! Shut it down, shut it down now… Well Oddball, what do you think? It’s a wasted trip baby. Nobody said nothing about locking horns with no Tigers. Hey look, you just keep them Tigers busy and we’ll take care of the rest. Never get out of the boat. Damn right. You can’t handle the truth.

      59. And now you understand why the Jews have been expelled from so many nations. They commit the same acts of financial thievery over and over again.

      60. Financial “Cataclysm” To Come,
        Gold to Unimaginable Levels

        i have a haunting idea that ‘Gold to Unimaginable Level’
        translates to: 1 ounce Gold = 1 human life

      61. I live in Italy and I am Italian. What I ca say is that I completely agree with Mr. Farage’s views: he’s completely right. We had better run and buy as much gold and silver as we actually can and hope for the best. I think Italy can face its problems but I’m not confident about Portugal and Ireland. The problem is that such beautiful countries were not ready yet to come into the european project. Now many people will become poor, very poor and that is a tragedy. Go Nigel!!! go!!!

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