NDAA Protests End In Ironic Swarm Of Arrests

by | Jan 10, 2012 | Headline News | 328 comments

Do you LOVE America?


    The absurdity of America today never ceases to amaze.  In fact, it has become so elaborate that one might even suggest it has reached a kind of poetic symmetry.  When a protest group is willing to stick their necks out to expose the horror of the National Defense Authorization Act and its open door strategy for unconstitutional arrest and indefinite detainment of American citizens, I have to stand up and applaud.  This is the kind of protest we need to see all over the country.  Of course, any establishment system which is willing to dissolve the inherent liberties of its citizens certainly isn’t going to stand by quietly while they blatantly point out the injustice.  The Grand Central Terminal action featured in the video below is a perfect example of the swift and immediate stifling of peaceful dissent by an increasingly totalitarian government:

    Responses to the event vary.  Most people who have actually been exposed to the facts on the NDAA have expressed utter disgust and fury.  Rightly so.  Some, however, have taken the old elitist mantra, perpetuated effectively by the Neo-Cons in their heyday, that if you are not for the system, then you are a danger to society.  Not surprisingly, there are still plenty of useful idiots out there buzzing about like parasites in search of blood.

    For those who would applaud these arrests, and suggest that they are well deserved, I would have to ask very pointedly; why?

    Is it right to crush free speech as long as the message is offensive to you personally?  Do peaceful protestors really present a legitimate threat to our national stability?  Are they truly more dangerous than a corrupt government hellbent on assassinating the legal protections of our natural rights which have existed for centuries?  Would any supporter of the jackboot methodology like to explain to me in a coherent manner why they believe their skewed world view should be shielded from sincere questions?  Please, I can’t wait to witness the kind of ridiculous mental gymnastics required to make such arguments palatable.  If this kind of ignorance wasn’t so destructive, it might actually be entertaining.

    The bottom line is, it doesn’t matter if these activists were in Grand Central Terminal, on the streets, or busting through the doors of the Oval Office.  While New York authorities will attempt to argue property loopholes in free speech protections for Grand Central, or national security because of the vulnerability of the terminal, really, this has nothing to do with either.  This is about the removal of American voices from a room, and nothing more.   If the message is going to be suppressed by the mainstream media, and shrugged off by representatives, then protesters must go to where the people are, and make the truth heard by whatever means necessary.

    Ultimately, activism is about disturbing people’s normal mundane routines and shocking them out of their pop-culture stupor, even if for a moment.  If we aren’t allowed to do that without constant police intervention, then the First Amendment is not being served, and then, my friends, we have a problem, a problem which should be forced down the throat of government with even more public action.

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      1. And so it begins. Tyranny at hand!

        • The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.
          -Thomas Jefferson

          • That time is coming closer.

            • Lots of time left, but use it wisely. Keep prepping.

            • The time is VERY close im afraid. Over the last month there have been THOUSANDS of flights of chemtrail spray planes over my town.Lake Havasu City has only 50000 +/-,so why so many flights? 75 yesterday 1/9,and 80+ today 1/10.I know there are still alot of people who think “chemtrail”theorists are whacko,but let me remind you ,the “govt” has admitted the program JUST THIS YEAR.”They” claim they are spraying to prevent “golbal warming”,(thats rich). “IT” is getting close I think, just the sheer numbers of flights over the last few days,It appears desperate at this point,like “they” just want to get on with it.
              Doctors in Pheonix are reporting blood test levels of ALUMINIUM and BARIUM at 150 times safe levels,IN CHILDREN?What kind of sick MF is poisoning our kids? When are WE going to put a stop to this insanity.You know how it’s said “when people got nothing to lose, they lose it< let me just tell you, I try to protect my two children from this toxic spray EVERYDAY, BUT
              If they get suddenly sick and die from this, You will be seeing me on the national news. (let your mind wander)….. Here are some good sites to educate yourselves if you are just learning about this "plan"for population control/reduction. You just cant make this sh!t up. strangedaysstrangeskies…chemtrailforecast… MAC these are NOT my sites and there's nothing in it for me so please let the people learn…good luck out there..keep your heads down and NEVER be taken to another location against your will…you wont be coming back….God bless you all

            • Just a couple more thoughts, not that anyone cares what I think….This NWO thing is NOT new..Its been in the works for a long time,just look at the recent attempts..

              Sept 11…does any sane person really still believe that 15 camel jockeys really put together that plan??The Bush and BinLaden families have been in bed together for decades…Plan FAILED, but did bring us the ironicly named “patriot act”

              2007…The pandemic N1H1 (bird flu)planned to kill hundreds of thousands maybe more,except noboby would take the “vaccine”…Plan FAILED

              2008…the collapse of the “financial system” Martial law unless congress gives Hundreds of billions(turned out to be trillions)to the bankers….no taxpayer revolt…Plan Failed

              2011…Debt ceiling debacle, after pissing away the trillions already “distributed” by President Osama,he needs 1.5 trillion more….no taxpayer revolt…Plan Failed

              2011…Govt.admits after 14 years of flights over our cities.that they are indeed spraying the atmosphere,(for our own protection)to reduce “global warming”
              1- Why are they spraying at night?
              2- Why are they spraying on already cloudy days?
              3- Why Aluminium? Could it be that Monsanto and Dupont just came out with Aluminium resistant seeds? (food control) Tried to grow a garden lately? Doesn’t grow..the plant will grow but the flowers fall off 1/4 inch from stem. All the people go back to sleep,no riots no unrest…Plan Failed

              2012…January now and Osama needs trillions more or another collapse imminent…no problem,we will just print it out of nowhere….Plan Failed

              Desparation is setting in, the rothchilds and morgans and chases are getting itchy.They have been waiting for their NWO for fifty+ years and want it done NOW…

              Prepare in 2012 for the grandaddy of all false flag attacks,It will need to be BIG so there will be no mistakes this time.I think it will have to be nuclear..the most bang(pardon the pun)for the buck…

              Stay safe my friends,add some iodine pills and some good OM10 masks to your preps..Have a nice day

            • P.S. you can always use all your prep seeds for sprouting,makes a tasty salad you know…

          • Madam, you have just identified the biggest conundrum facing our government. Millions upon millions of untraceable firearms in the hands of the citizenry. Now might be a good time to stock up on ammunition.

        • I believe the income tax and the federal reserve proceeded this event. Trust in Christ, the giver of life and freedom.

        • There were protesters in the streets for months and nothing was done but they were backed by the democratic party. When citizens complained of the inability to get to their homes or places of business the city did not care. It did nothing until the cost in dollars, to the city got too high. But let a peaceful group oppose their plans and it only takes a few minutes to get them into jail.

        • This morning my wife went through TSA in Denver, CO, about 11:30. She was going to board a Southwest airlines flight to Albuquerque. The TSA employee told her she would need to step over to the full body scanner. My wife meekly replied, “I don’t want to go through the scanner.” The TSA employee replied, “Well that’s too damn bad.” The man behind my wife spoke up and said, “She can exercise her right not to go through the scanner. And I’m not going through it either.” I wish I could give you the name of the TSA employee because I’d like to splash it all over the internet. Thanks to the man who backed up my wife. He also commented to my wife, “It’s going to get a lot worse.” So, the tyranny continues. Get their name and splash it on the internet if it happens to you.

          • Good for your wife & good for the man behind her. It would be great if the two of them were in the majority as far as refusing the scanners go. Unfortunately they are in the minority… we need more people like them telling TSA no…

            • Personally, I do not fly commercially because I refuse to be exposed to either the groping and/or the massive radiation. Won’t do it, PERIOD. If enough people refuse to fly OR enough people refuse both the groping and the radiation at the airports in unison, then we might see some dramatic changes in regards to being treated with respect and dignity.

              THe problem IS, people are willing to allow themselves to be violated. Americans have grown complacent while loosing their personal respect FOR THEMSELVES. That’s the sad and simple truth of the matter. TSA needs to be stopped dead in their tracts. One or two out of the ordinary complaints ain’t going to do jack shit.

              It’s all or nothing now. Fear is the human modifier and let me tell you Americans have been massively modified.

              What side does one choose to align oneself? THe Fear side or the FearLESS side? Now THAT’s where we are at today; The Crossroads, to choose; are we humans or sub-humans?

            • If for 1 week only one everybody refused to fly, believe it or not the airlines wood kickout the tsa. To much money would be lost it wood cripple the industry. Believe it or not. It would shut so much down and what could they do make you fly? Shoot no, it would be a start to show the powers that be. We are not sheeple like they think we are. Just one little thing like that to give the right people a wakeup call.

            • You are right Griz in theory, that would make a major impression. That would be the straw that could break…

              But in reality, if such an event had any potential of taking place, it probably would have happened by now.

              Sometimes I wonder who is more dangerous, TSA or those Americans who don’t mind being violated? Cuz those same Americans, if they are willing to give up their civil liberties for the “perceived” safety, would also be the first to turn you and I in, along with all the regulars here, as terrorists, for posting our “radical” opinions.

            • Isn’t it interesting that we intrude upon the rights of the flying public, looking for foreigners plotting to cause violence? At the same time our government actively allows any and all foreigners to simply walk across the Rio Grande. Should anyone have the unmitigated gall to try and enforce Federal Law, the Fed’s sue them.

              People from all over the world flock to Mexico so they can infiltrate the USA for whatever intentions they may have. Where do you think most of these violent gang members come from? MS-13 is a good example. Middle Easterners are emulating that successful infiltration.

          • re:TSA groping

            I personally find it detestable, but whom is really humiliated? I am not the one who gropes other men’s privates for a living.

            I agree with the idea of severely curtailling air traffic, if only for a week. The airlines would cry like babies.

            The attitude of the TSA goon is not surprising. It has hardly been a secret that they intended all along to intimidate people into using the scanners.

            I have heard that in parts of Europe people say that TSA means Tourists Stay Away.

            • Passive resistance is the key. If enough people refuse the easy way and insist on more intrusive pat downs and strip searches it will greatly slow down the TSA. The problem is than most peole are wimps and “just want to get along and not make waves”. Well, when the American Sheeple get good and tired of this crap, maybe they’ll stand up, but most won’t. They’ll to continue to go along like whipped dogs lapping up the abuse. These are the same cowards that will go sniveling along to the FEMA camps when ordered to do so. The exceptions are the people who read blogs like this.

            • You such a liar about that one girl!!!

            • FATCA is money and jobs stay away.

              And if you don’t own yourself, you own nothing.

          • Good for that unnamed man. I live in Denver and have heard enough horror stories that I will never fly again. I drive if I want to go somewhere.

          • All should read “Unintended Consequences” by John Ross. I think a Henry Bowman style resistance would be quite effective in convincing the Bozo feds that they are going where they really don’t want to go. It is a rather long book so if you’re short on time, make do with reading the final 100-150 pages.

          • Good for your wife. We should all politely refuse to submit to these scans. If everyone refused they might get the message.

        • It began long before now. And so the tyranny that now grabs some minor headlines, becomes faintly visible to the “sleepers”. “YAWN”, most don’t care yet. You ain’t seen nothin yet. But the “curtain” is about to rise to the ceiling, rather than the previous “sneek peeks” allowed under a partially raised curtain. FULL EXPOSURE/DISCLOSURE and WE have waited too long to counteract it peacefully. Guess you know what that means.

          Let the show begin!

          • You mean the new reality show: “Amerikan Gulag”?

          • I agree with you 100% European American. I was asked just yesterday at work to attend a meeting that would require flying. I told them no, when asked why I told my boss that the TSA was infringing on my right to privacy by performing an illegal search of my person at the Security Checkpoint. He looked at me like I had 3 heads and one of them was a goat head. I will not fly again until the TSA has been abolished.

            My brother has to fly for his job, he insists on the grope versus the scope because the agents dislike performing the grope. I made him a T-shirt that he puts on before the checkpoint that says “Go For the Grope” We call the TSA Checkpoint The Scope and Grope.

            • Wait to go, Loretta! Not for agreeing with me, but for speaking your truth and telling your boss “EXACTLY” what HE needed to hear! You drew the line and stood your ground. That is the lesson Americans need to learn, each and every one of them (us). It’s very important that you shared your experience because that is the kind of action that ignites others to follow suit. I love to hear peoples “fearlessness” stories, they’re contagious; gets me pumped!

        • Wait until the US government uses tactics more brutal than the ones it has been loudly condemning in other countries.

          A personal observation is that Our government is only willing to get involved and help oust governments that have in the past been in any way a friend to USA.

        • This has been going on for decades, the US government can do whatever they want and there is nothing anyone can do to stop it.
          Please see:

      2. Great story read it this morning, welcome to America

      3. wow, here it comes gang.

      4. Welcome America, welcome to the official takeover of fascism! Read the history about the beginning of the 3rd Reich in Germany! You will be amazed!
        And probably scared to death!

        Do you want this “total war”?

        These ARE the last minutes to change.


        Beyond Religion.
        Beyond poverty and war.
        For a peaceful, moneyless future!

        Are YOU willing to die for those printed pieces of paper?

        • The Zeitgeist Movement is source funded by the United Nations. In addition, the idea of some computer programmed, machine run society where nobody owns anything and all your needs are taken care of is a pipe dream. Trotsky, Lenin and Stalin had a similar dream once, it resulted in the murders of somewhere in the neighborhood of 25 million souls. Sorry, you can keep your utopian nightmare, I’ll stick with the restoration of a Constitutional Republic.

          Besides, who do you think is going to program those machines that run society? You? Someone with good intentions? I think not. They’ll have social engineers involved that think along the lines of Zbigniew Brzezinski or Henry Kissinger.

          Please, you’re being misled by the shills that run the Zeitgeist Movement and the Venus Project. They are eugenicists and I’ve even seen photos of the leadership attending a U.N. function at one of the palaces owned by Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands. Do a little homework before you join something and especially before promoting it.

      5. I guess what the most disturbing thing is the video, not sure about ya’ll but that just PISSES me off.


        • They will use and abuse the laws like they’ve always done in the past.
          Whatever is for the good of the government!
          Suck it, it all pisses me off!

        • I agree, DPS…I mean, really, WHAT did she do, to be treated that way?? Nothing that I could see…but if the sheeple stay quiet…then this gives the TSA and local police the power to do WHATEVER they want!

      6. Overload the system and collapse it.

        • exactly
          there is no way they could house and feed and maintain a huge group of dissadents..and geniva convention will not allow them to starve those they have captured

          see this is war..this is an act of war against this contries own people, and even common people have rights in a war..basic human rights will become the issue

          • Respectfully, if “they” don’t care about the Constitution, are “they” going to care about the Geneva Convention?

            However, strength is in the numbers!

            • your probably right about hem not observing any rights or rules..moreso the reason to resist now, than later

            • Numbers? What numbers would that be? They fully intend to play groups off against each other kick back and then pick up the pieces. Where do you get the idea that a modern society made up mostly of fat, overweight,out of shape people most of whom have never been in the military let alone fired a gun are going to miss a meal to defend themselves? They have our number.

            • That was my question. Who is giong to enforce the Geneva convention protocalls?

          • More importantly, even the most mentally-blind people would have their eyes opened by such actions. Sadly, that doesn’t help you in the several years that the Auschwitz-wannabes gets away with it. Decades if it becomes like the Soviet purges where everyone is afraid to even passively resist. Romania had something like 1-in-4 spying on each other until it collapsed under it’s own weight.

            BTW: The evil of Josef Mengele was such that even some of his own top employees (executioners since he ‘technically’ didn’t commit murder with his own hands) committed suicide or had to be committed after the war. No one got out of that camp untouched, except the ‘good doctor’ AKA ‘Doctor Evil’ when not being so sarcastic. He got to retire to some country that protected him for decades and arrested for conspiracy murder charges nor crimes against humanity.

      7. ~MAC~

        Any chance my IP is ‘persona non-grata’ now? Can’t seem to post anything…..

        • GS, the IP is good. try using an email address when you submit comments (fake email addy is cool too, just use the same one each time)… the system should recognize you after 1 – 3 approved comments and start auto-publishing after that.

          We use the AKISMET automated comment moderation and spam filter, otherwise we’d have hundreds of spam posts hitting the comment areas daily.

          My apologies for the inconvenience on this, but there’s no easy way around it.



          • ~MAC~

            Gotcha…am good to go now!

            Thanks much!!!

      8. Just the opposite of what America’s Fathers intended. We are in for a long hard winter, I guess we need lots of anti-freeze.

        Pisses me of also, DPS…hopefully there will come a day when the ptb can be drug off, kicking and screaming.

        • Terry,

          Yes indeed a very long cold winter ahead, I look for things to really heat up come spring. You know I ask my Mom And Dad what they thought about this NDAA bill and they didn’t even know about it.. Same goes with 95% of the people I talk to. MSM is living up to what is expected of them, keep the sheeple blind and Dumb..


      9. DPS,
        Its funny you mention your parents. I also asked my parents what they thought of it and they had no clue…. I showed them what has heppened in the last few months.. needless to say my father is stockpileing food and ammo now. Amazing how no true main stream media has done any sort of report on this at all.

        • From the Economic Collapse blog, posted at The Daily Crux.

          “How to Prepare for Difficult Years Ahead”

          Great article. List included is especially helpful for folks just getting started.

        • Experience is a great teacher, especially of history. It’s funny how so many that consider themselves liberal (when they mean leftist, not antimilitant) are finding that having a gun makes a lot of sense. I’d hate to be without one in a riot or event like Katrina. In LA, black panthers had to wear shotguns so maybe it’s just history repeating itself.

      10. It is shocking that all of this is being put into “law” (loose term there) by the Vietnam / Civil Rights generation or those who came of age in the wake of both movements. The depression / WWII generation did very well by conforming although they lost children in the wars of Wall Street not knowing the difference between a real threat and a manufactured threat. That generation seen standards of living dramatically rise and as Einstein said, “An empty stomach is not a good political barometer”, the opposite is also true.

        The reality is we have been in a constant battle to live up to our ideals. At present we’re loosing badly.

        • Kevin,

          Whats shocking is that these protest have remained peaceful, I think come spring we will see these protest turn violent. It won’t take much and there goes the neighborhood.


        • The people doing this were not the ones who served in Vietnam or served at all. Mostly draft dodgers and friends of Bill and Obama like Ayers and Dohrn are behind this. They love tyranny as long as they are the ones in charge of it.

      11. It is puzzling as to what is going on with NDAA. Nobody is saying anything about it, not even the more reliable sources. The fact that nearly 99% of our esteemed leaders voted for this is more disturbing coupled with the fact that the MSM is in bed with it and them. I feel a slider coming in here. If it is what we are reading into it there is one thing that will ring true. They might realize they have bitten off more than they wanted once they encounter resistance. They had better get that kill switch on the internet they wanted, once they fire this up, it will get out and all hell will break loose. I am trying to figure out what exactly their target is. What are they going to do that would perpetuate this type of action? What are they anticipating?

      12. Hammerun,

        Its kinda like Ninaorket was talking about, this is a game of chess, 1st the Patriot Act, Now the NDAA, next will be the internet kill switch, but only after they have all their pawns in line “FEMA Camps, DHS road Blocks, The National guard” once its all in place then the SHTF. You have to lose some pawns in order to take the Kings and queens..The part that will fail them is alot of the pawns are on our side, Take a look at the Oathkeepers site and you will see what is going to happen.


        • You’re right, DPS. NinaO puts it out there in your face in a very ….unique…way, but he hasn’t been wrong yet. He’s been saying all of this stuff for as long as I’ve been around here and it’s all coming true.

          More power to these folks taking the lead in the protests.

          • You are a fool

            • No, you are.

            • Why is she a fool? Throwing an accusation out there is easy…So back up your statement please!!

            • @sml, Best you tend to your knitting, old hen!

            • @JM. Ahh, another hen clucking!

            • Anything besides hot air to add to that, POd?

          • SML, JustMe:

            PO’d is apparently PO’d that we of the female persuasion are in front of the computer giving valid opinions as opposed to being barefoot in the kitchen making him a sandwich.

            Silly boy.

            • I believe that was directed to just you Dazie.

            • @daze-eez,It was and I don’t need some old has-been to make me a sandwich.

            • Bobble-head.

            • Why the nastiness, Patriot? You generally have something interesting and reasonably intelligent to say. This is not to attack you, it just caught my attention.

            • Daisy,
              At least we don’t have to deal with him, everyday…God help Mrs. PO’D..if there is one! LOL!!

      13. I believe it is time…But how?

      14. The whole thing remaineds me of grade school, think back. remeber the bully that was always trying to pick a fight, he never throw the first punch he waited for the other kid to throw it, then he whipped some ass. The problem here is the bully “Goverment” can’t get the other kid ” Public” to throw the fist punch. So they just keep pushing,they think the public are cowards. But here is what I have found out.. Beware of the coward he is the man that walks away from a fight, and its not out of fear. He is simply picking his ground for the fight..


        • I’m a smaller man then most only about 150lbs and growing up I was picked on ALOT..And I only know one way to beat somebody bigger then me. This has always worked for me, Redirect his energy away from yourself and taint him to piss him off, when somebody gets pissed the lose their balance mind first body second and by redirecting his energy you wear them down. Then you strike!!
          May sound crazy and I guess it is, but it has worked many times in all area’s of my life. Racing motocross I used to piss them off on the starting line. 60 % of the guyes I did this too would crash in the first turn..LOL Just remember 1st isn’t everything, but 2nd place is the first loser..


          • yep as they said on Tallidaga nights..”If you aint first, yer last!”

          • I am wondering the logic of that statement, second is first loser??? I mean If I am second from being shot and survive am I not still first being second while the first is dead on the ground? Why the compition level there? Competitiveness is rather elitist in its very nature and if we all fighting on the side of the 99%er’s then it makes even less sense to state it. Imma be first killing me some bankers, so if you or I do it second we are a loser?? Context man…. I am small dude too and I always just hit the bastrds straight face (broken nose); they might then beat my ass but they will never f with me again. They know it will cost em. You won’t be able to wait for the chance when they bring the fight straight to your doorstep.

            • I do agree with you causing anger in another makes them lose focus.

            • your hate and anger will only feed me, give me more. I am your holy father you know this to be truth. Use the force, channel your anger!!!!!!! Serve me my son by bending over further!! HAHAHAHAHA!

            • Lets see if we can get some anger rolling here.

            • Check out rich99 folks she has great tits and ass if its really her.

            • makes perfect sense now too, according to you rich99 there will be no collapse. Well we could not have that right? I mean you couldn’t get your nails and hair done every week and all the others shit you do if that happens. jesus christ talking normalcy bias from hell….don’t worry dear the soldiers or police will make sure you treated REAL NICE!! before they throw in the gulag with the rest of us.

            • now that we all know what you supposedly look like don’t get me wrong you are 9/10 hot if thats you (kudos), don’t be a bitch. Pride and vanity is your soup of the day. If the devil was pretty folks would screw it……

            • also rich99 (ben Dover). WTF are you doing on this site in the first place, spiteful thing you. If you are rich then why do you frequent a site such as this? Does it entertain you? Maybe you have nothing better to do…that is no emotional connection with anyone special? Easy to be seen and real easy to get felt but hard to be recongnized for more than a piece of meat. Perhaps you are childish at heart and like to play? It matters not if you respond to this; I know all I need to know at this point about you, to run the other f-ing way………….high maintence girl.

            • It’s all fun and games for me, entertainment with moments of clarity in between. At time true enlighenment strikes me here as I post my prodigous statements.

            • @ RICH99 If you are Emma Stone, I’m Mary Poppins. I say this becaue I clicked on the link you provided and that is who is pictured there. It was a pretty good joke though…maybe nobody really will go take his meds now

            • An optomist would be a pessamist if they were armed with accurate information…


              Then again, IRIOTI

              …#10 cans — crisp $10 bills…



            • Fed up , shut the fuck up nosy prick mind ur buisness. You know since it isn’t her then we know now that she has no integrity whatsoever. Now nothing she says matters, more over she insecure about herself here on this site. My med is fucking ur mother, dick; tell I get tired. This may be public but uh stay fuck outta my shit or maybe like that S-H…-I-T on ur face.

          • One thing we can for the most part agree on is this perhaps. Lets hit the not like button of Rich99 no matter what on all his posts just because he’s rather smug prick.

            • Us smug pricks take that as an insult!

            • Hey Ben Dover, I mean really man what kinda name is that? Ben Dover (Bend Over and take it in the ass!!)HAHAHAHA!!!!

            • Holy father says come to my parrish my son.

            • The name Ben Dover is a great name. Maybe you should come to my parrish and Bend Over for me!!!!! HAHAHA!!!

            • though I did not write it is pretty funny!!!

            • So rich99 your a chick? Let me say if it is you I’d like to pack sausage in your ass girl. It also explains your smug pontifficating attitude ( pretty girl that thinks she is the shit). Did you get rich sucking and fucking the biggest dick in town? Many will take offense to this, but I got the the don’t givaa fuuuck in me girl!!! You closet sell pussy all day? I am your holy father so bend over.

      15. I call this the Cause and Effect motion the Cause(protest)are people who know what the goverment is doing to us the rest of the sheepeople don’t care (Effect) it’s not effecting them so it’s life as usual,they’ve slowly taken are rights away that they don’t notice or care, when the problems accumulates that’s when it effects them then it’s to late, just like congress they wait until there’s a problem and make last minute decisions. Wakeup sheepeople it’s effecting you now don’t wait until it gets worse.

      16. The scum of the earth (PTB) daring us (consitutionist) to stop them. This aggression on their part is coming soon to a neighborhood near each of us.

      17. The time is coming with us against them. I often thought about would I try to convince “officials” to understand what we see and feel, and that perhaps they might understand. You know, that they are on the wrong side, they need to be fighting with us. I would like to, (not knowing I guess till the time comes)think that they would say to themselves that this is not right and I will not fight against my people just to follow orders. Personally I really do not want people to get harmed for following orders,,,, and here it comes,,,,, BUT, I hope they choose the right side. Could you imagine if those few “officials” had a crowd of say 50 people decide they are not going to be any arrest to be made by the “officials”? It could get real ugly.

        • Hesitation will cause you your life. If they are standing in the street ready to take action against you, you had better be prepared to strike first or don’t be there in the first place. The time for reasoning has passed. Now is the time for action. Action speaks louder than words.

          • HSL@…Hesitation will cause you your life.(enquote)

            So very true…reminds me of an old timer I knew back when I was a youngster and John Wayne was my hero(still is actually)…he was a “quick draw” gun artist and so fast you couldnt see his hand move…one time I remember he did a timed demo hooked to a machine and while I forget his time(from start of draw till his shot stopped the timer(it was in tenths of seconds))I remember it being amazing! Anyhow someone remarked to him that he was faster than Wyatt Erpp and could beat him in a gunfight….I remember the old man saying that yes he was likely faster than Wyatt but he couldnt beat him…when asked why,he said “because Ive never shot a man and I would hesitate…Wyatt wouldnt!…made sense to me then, still does…what you wrote there brought that to mind…thought Id share it.

      18. Don’t forget, I believe BO signed the bill (NDAA) on Dec.31/2011. He was advised that he already had too much in the pooper for one year!

        This covers enough not covered by MSM or LSM (Lame Stream Media):

        What were the most ignored stories of 2011?
        WND readers and editors choose the top 10
        1. The true rate of unemployment and inflation and the real state of the U.S. economy, which is far worse than reported.
        2. The Justice Department’s “Fast and Furious” operation, which facilitated the delivery of American firearms into Mexico to violent drug cartels, later used in the murder of hundreds, including a U.S. Border Patrol agent.
        3. The organizations and money behind the supposedly “leaderless” Occupy Wall Street movement.
        4. The role of leftwing groups and the Obama administration in the fall of Arab regimes and the rise of Islamic radicals.
        5. Compelling evidence from multiple experts that the birth certificate released by Barack Obama on April 27, 2011, is a fraud.
        6. The true mission of Islamic groups such as CAIR and other U.S.-based Muslim Brotherhood-front organizations and their infiltration of the U.S.
        7. The real impact on the U.S. economy of Obama’s $787 billion stimulus.
        8. The harmful impact of unions on the American economy.
        9. The looming potential for an EMP attack on the U.S. and its devastating impact.
        10. The federal government’s raid of the Gibson Guitar factory.

        Y’all Beware!

        • Y’all beware is right. How many of the big talkers on this site are govt. shills. Be careful what you post and who you listen to. No sense getting sent to GITMO. Besides unless the military refuses orders we are toast. Get over the Red dawn fantasy. It ain’t going to happen.

        • Unions are what drive the economy you tucking moron. Without the unions there would be no middle class or any employee benefits you fuck

          • Baloney. I work in Silicon Valley. You unions get credit for nothing that comes out of here. You want to know who actually creates value here, and helps drive the economy forward? Innovators, entrepreneurs, risk-takers, dreamers, hard workers, etc.

            What kind of smart-phone is in your pocket? A union didn’t build that.

      19. I have been emailing the following to all I know:

        SUBJECT: Help Defend Our Freedom – Please

        Watch this then next video and text below: http://www.morningstartv.com/oak-initiative/marxism-america

        National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA):


        Then see: http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2012/01/07/ohio-peace-officer-drafts-ndaa-letter-for-police-and-sheriffs/

        January 7th, 2012

        Ohio Peace Officer Drafts NDAA Letter For Police And Sheriffs
        Below is a letter composed by one of our peace officers in Ohio. This letter was written to raise awareness of the ominous problems in the National Defense Authorization Act of 2012. Because Jim Singleton is a State chapter officer for Ohio Oath Keepers and is Ohio’s Peace Officer Liaison, this letter will be circulated within LE communities around Ohio. I am placing this letter on our national website as a guide and/or template for all Peace Officer members in Oath Keepers in all State chapters. All are encouraged to write their own letters and mail to all Peace Officer offices in respective States. Oath Keepers is mobilizing on various fronts in response to the travesty called NDAA-2012. Oath Keepers salutes current-serving Peace Officer Jim Singleton, our Ohio chapter Secretary.

        Send these to all you know.

        Y’all Beware!

      20. I say again, it is not us against the gov corp.

        It is us against the Banksters who own and run it.

        Instead of Grand Central Station, they should have stormed the Federal Reserve and The City with swords drawn. Once those heads giving the orders have been separated from the bodies that keep them alive, the darkness will begin to lift.

        • GC: SHTF America has predicted the assassination of some major Gangster Banksters in 2012. If you hear a wild cheer after the NFL is over, no its not Tebow throwing an 80 yard TD to win the game in the last minute, its a “hit” on the Gangster Banksters.

          They cannot expect to get away with this without some “blowback”. Just saying.

      21. This is just the Beginning of the Martial Law imposed on the People, they have all the ducks in a row, when the Internet goes down we are screwed! If its not bad enough, the up coming Election(not), Obama will suspend the election. and declare Himself Prez for Life! This is all going to go HOT! Civil War II..Coming to a town near You! Semper Fi

        • Or Obama will pick a fight with Iran so he can suspend the election, then another 9-11 so he can declare martial law

          • They don’t seem to need to declare anything. They passed NDAA. They will just come in the middle of the night and get you.

            • If you have a registered firearm they know about it. All they have to do is grab your kids at school and make a trade. Your firearms for the kids. Real simple. Same goes for random roadblocks or since the Patriot Act gives them the go ahead just search your place when you are not there. Come home and find your stuff gone. Who are you going to call? The cops?

          • Yes you probably right, this is what I thought would happen. I saw a youtube video a while back from a guy who came out and said that we will not see another election, martial law will be declared to prevent Obama losing the election. I was floored by this coming from the source that it did.

        • Camera this is why we have to practice now,. instead of freaking out when the net is down, we’ve got our informal “darknet” ready to go, or going because it’s been going all along. We have our own methods of communicating, from ham radio, CB, business radios (like contractors use) point-to-point wifi, there are a zillion things and have been for years. Look up the old “ricochet” modems used in the mid-90s, I guess it never caught on because it wasn’t that profitable.

        • I live in a small town on the colorado river, mostly retired military and cops,also ALOT of preppers.Out of 40000pop. 30000are HEAVILY armed. A recent gunshop survey showed 3500 with FULLY automatic weapons.Most others with MULTIPLE guns,and an average “thousands” of rounds for each. As a good citizen of my town I say to “them” BRING IT ON. Good luck with your FEMA camps as well.The ones near here,Pheonix,Wickenburg,Gila, will remain empty if we have anything to say about it. PS,I hope “they” bring ALOT of body bags, cause WE will use them up quickly…

          • That’s why they have drones unfortunately. They will just bomb or fire missiles at you.

          • Can you say “Tactical Nuclear Weapon”?…Sure, I knew you could say that…

            • Why do I get this image of Dr. Strangelove? Crazy General going broken arrow and the enemy not telling his people that they have a doomsday MADD implementation?

              I’d pray that no rogue elements (say, treasonous groups hellbent on taking over a republic or eugenics fanatics or name-your-bigot) are that suicidal but their egos make them think they’re not vulnerable to a firing squad after starting a civil war. It’s the hidden dark side of politics that likes to rear it’s head ever so often.

      22. Senators Carl Levin and Joseph Lieberman, both of whom are arch-Zionist dual-citizens and agents of a foreign power ostensibly representing “American” constituencies, sponsor and promote legislation to dismantle eight centuries of Anglo-Saxon and American legal tradition. The effect of their efforts is to deprive Americans of their inalienable rights to Habeas Corpus (recognized in the Magna Carta in 1215), free speech and petition and redress of grievances, in order to force, cow, and terrorize Americans into serving unpopular Neocon (read: Israeli) foreign policy objectives.

        These objectives include first and foremost the launching of yet more bloody and expensive wars for Israel, using up American blood an treasure at a profligate rate. It therefore logically follows that Levin, Lieberman & Co. believe that a) Americans will not WILLINGLY send their children off to fight these wars and must therefore be COMPELLED to do so, and b) the opinions, needs and interests of ordinary Americans are of NO CONSEQUENCE, compared to the attainment of the strategic objectives of Israel.

        Inescapably, one conclusion emerges: Zionists, not Muslims, are the ones attempting to murder the United States Constitution. Therefore, it is ZIONISM that TRULY “hates our freedom.”

        • That Mitt Romney a-hole announces, “Israel is our friend.” Then he never says anything about HIS friends the crooked gang banking Wall Street bastards, who are, coincidentally, mostly like Geithner and Bernanke, little kikes. In the next sentence, he talks about strengthening national defense of their behalf. I guess we know who writes this Light Skinned Obama’s script.

      23. We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote general welfare and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordane and establish this Constitution for The United States of America………………..Enough said !!!

      24. movies too watch to prepare for THE NEW AMERICA REVOLUTION:

        1.) Shane
        2.) v for vendetta
        3.) the matrix 1, 2, 3
        4.) stars wars 4,5,6,1,2,3
        5.) conspiracy theory
        6.) quest for fire
        7.) they live
        8.) the shooter
        9.) hair
        10.) mulon rogue
        11.) dr. schivago
        12.) the pianist
        13.) platoon
        14.) full metal jacket
        15.) hamburger hill
        16.) the manchurian candidate
        17.) 300
        18.) braveheart
        19.) the killing fields
        20.) saving private ryan
        21.) les miserables
        22.) citizen kane
        23.) enemy of the state
        24.) mr smith goes to washington
        25.) 1776 musical movie
        26.) the road
        27.) the power of one (a must watch!)
        28.) mutiny of the bounty (old version then new)
        29.) master and commander
        30.) the hurt locker
        31.) hardware
        32.) kingdom of heaven
        33.) the kingdom
        34.) generation kill (hbo)
        35.) margin call
        36.) ????????????????????
        and girls gone wild best of 2011! ;0p pssszzt

        • AVATAR! #1 + #1 DEFINITELY MUST WATCH AVATAR LAST! ;0) enjoy…

        • Myself I prefer to read books and field manuals.
          Che Guevara might have been a pinky commie, but his methods as outlined in his book guerrilla warfare is the basis of US Army special forces from MACV-SOG Recon Teams, Mike Force companies, and LRRP units in Vietnam to present.

          Be the greyman (un noticed) when you are out gunned and cannot win…be the guerrilla when you have the advantage!

          • @RWS III, “Nail-on-the-head”. Excellent advice for the coming travesty and needed response.

          • Che was a coward who liked to shoot helpless people. When captured he peed his pants and begged for his life. Fuck him.

            • And yet the US military SOG has used the basics of his tactics since Vietnam to present.

              If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
              If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
              ~Sun Tzu~

            • You’re absolutely correct. It just about kills me to see high school and college kids wearing Che t-shirts while having no clue as to what the evil, murdering Che was all about. I hope and trust he is burning in hell!

          • Two years later, during his Bolivian “guerrilla” campaign, Che split his forces, whereupon they got hopelessly lost and bumbled around, half-starved, half-clothed and half-shod, without any contact with each other for six months before being wiped out. They didn’t even have World War II vintage walkie-talkies to communicate and seemed incapable of applying a compass reading to a map. They spent much of the time walking in circles and were usually within a mile of each other. During this blundering, they often engaged in ferocious firefights against each other.

            “You hate to laugh at anything associated with Che, who murdered so many,” says Felix Rodriguez, the Cuban- American CIA officer who played a key role in tracking Guevara down in Bolivia. “But when it comes to Che as ‘guerrilla,’ you simply can’t help but guffaw.”


          • RWS,

            Whats the numbers on that field manual you have been reading?


            • DPS
              I’ve read quite a few currently reading a long one
              FM-06 Us Army Urban Operations manual

        • You crack me up. 🙂 Great list. Um, maybe add “Defiance” and “Unforgiven” to this….and maybe “Deliverance”?

          • And “The Stand”….not as good as the book but still decent!

        • I would include, The Patriot with Mel Gibson

        • You left out:
          Enemy At The Gates
          The Mad Max trilogy
          Aeon Flux
          Red Dawn
          The Beast
          The Firefly series, and Serenity
          The Bourne trilogy
          Babylon AD
          Pitch Black
          Chronicles of Riddick
          Apocolypse Now
          National Treasure 1&2
          Pirates of the Carribean trilogy
          We Were Soldiers
          And Jet Li movies, because he’s cool.

          • Don’t forget Spy Game good movie kinda shows you how they think..

          • Lord of the rings trilogy…how could we forget that? And minority report, seeing as we now have pre-crime and everything.

      25. The government cannot defend their position in light of the constitution. Sooooo, When the only tool they have is a hammer, every problem becomes a nail. And the nail that sticks up gets hammered down.

        • The people need a bigger hammer then.

        • I’d guess then that the only solution is to appear to be a “nail”and only after they hit you they find out too late you were a “firing pin” tied into a atom bomb of defiance and retaliation! 🙂

      26. Ninorkat is a bit …. different, but I consider him one of the bright lights of this forum. It only hurts because it’s true.

        • That scares me, because the guy incoherent half the time.

          • He’s much easier to sift through if you’ve read much of Faulkner. I would compare him to the Sound and the Fury in 4 parts–sometimes he is perfectly lucid and well spoken, as in the final part focusing on the black servant, and other times, well, he’s Benjy, apparently just a babbling idiot, but even then you glean some information by reading between the lines.

            • If your going to “wax” something, try your legs. Your “waxing philosophical” ain’t makin’ it.

            • Mama Bear,
              Ignore PO’d Pats comment….He has a problem with women here on the blog for some reason! He must be having some major women issues in his life these days…because I don’t remember him being this rude before…kinda sad, really, I usually like what he has to say. As we say here in Tennessee….”Bless his heart, his brain done made a you-turn into nowhere land”… LOL!!

            • Misogyny was alive and well at the homes of some SHTFplan readers last night!

            • Eh. I can’t get too riled by him….he’s just having a toddler freak-out, which I see all the time with my 2-year-old…I think he just needs a story and a nap. You just read him between the lines and can figure him out. Plus he can’t tell the difference between philosophy and textual analysis, so he’d just be outgunned, and have to go on a rant about how girls are allowed book-larnin’ nowadays. Moderately amusing.

          • +1

        • Hey Ding Dong! You got shit for brains! That slime bag is a new world order shill just trying to see who will jump on his ship. And the sooner some of you dimwits wake up to it and unfuck yourselves, the better off you’ll be. However maybe it would be best for some if you don’t. I’ve seen this dirtbag’s posting for over a year on other sites and he’s trouble with a capital “T”. I couldn’t give a rat’s ass about what you thumb grade me at nor your response. You just got your last “click” out of me.

        • NinaO is our psyop compass…


          • You just hold that thought, scooter. Let me tell you about “Thought”. “Thought” is when you think you’re goin’ to fart and you end up shittin’ yourself. That’s what “Thought” does for you.

      27. salvadordal

        I am sure that there are a lot of people in those “protective service groups” that would walk away and not be willing to bash someone’s head in. Ok, those are the good people and let’s say they are on our side.

        Now, think of all the time corrupt people spent putting this all together knowing there are enough radicals that will be happy to beat someone up and get paid for it. They are in “positions of control” being paid by us and forming more alliances than we will ever know.
        Case in point – where did $2.2 trillion dollars go? The Fed’s dealings have often been the subject of great secrecy. During a March 2009 Senate budget meeting, when Bernanke was asked by Sen. Bernie Sanders (D-Vt.) what the Fed has been doing with the American people’s money, he sidestepped the question.
        Sanders said:
        We have spent a lot of time in Congress talking about the $700 billion TARP bailout … not a whole lot has been talked about with regard to the $2.2 trillion that the Fed has lent out. Now I find that absolutely extraordinary that I wrote you a letter and I said, “Hey, who did you lend the money to? What were the terms of those loans? How can my constituents in Vermont get some of that money? Who makes the decisions? Do you guys sit around in a room? Do you make it? Are there conflicts of interest?: So my question to you is, will you tell the American people to whom you lent $2.2 trillion of their dollars? Will you tell us who got that money and what the terms are of those agreements?
        To which Bernanke responded, “Any bank that has access to the U.S. Federal Reserve system.”

        I think the profit from that loan was $5 billion dollars. Where does that go and to whom?

        It is because of this secrecy and the unconstitutional and detrimental actions of the Federal Reserve that Ron Paul has led the movement to audit the Fed, a movement that has gained momentum and popularity. On February 26, 2009, Paul introduced H.R. 1207, the bill to audit the Federal Reserve.

        So look to people that offer solutions and information, these are the reasons we are here together. Patrick Henry said what all means in seven words, “Give me Liberty, or give me Death!”

        Y’all Beware!

        • Remember the Godfather where Corleon is shown as a young man doing the protecetion rackets and buying politicians. That is what we are now. little shop keepers paying bribes to the Mafia(govt.)hoping to be left alone. In all honesty the coup has happened and the only thing left for them to figure out is how to totally dominate or if that is not possible dispose of the citizenry. Elections no longer matter since just looking at Romney as the choice it is obvious that the Stupid Party wants no real change. They all have their places at the trough and that is all that matters. Don’t get in their way or it will be Scarface with a bat to our heads.

        • Kind of reminds me of Norman Gates in that SSDD web comic. The character relied on that reasoning to recruit his army of nutjobs. Ironically, so did his enemies when everyone realized the danger. Parity and all…

      28. People , it’s been coming for a longtime. Way before obama and the bush bunch. The American public is finally seeing the government for what it is. A tyrannical power hungry monster. I think it’s too little too late. We allowed this shit to happen because we were blinded by our own greed. The freight train is comin and picking up speed. I foresee Martial Law being declared and then all hell unleashed. God help us now. Who is prepared and who’s a sheeple ? I for one will NOT go quietly into that gentle night.

        • Well obviously not enough…….uneducated morons voted for Romney yet again…….a corp snake career politician.

          Faux news and the rest of the fucks in the lsm won’t hardly mention the only true man with love for the .
          country and constitution, who came in 3 rd in Iowa and 2nd in NH

          America and all her idiots deserve what they get…….how do you want it? Slow it fast, that’s the only difference between romnut and bo. I git half a mind to vote for bo out of spite……..if I were voting. What a wasteland of fools America as become

        • I am hiding out with my cap pistol just north of Mexicali.

        • We are the government but we have been resting at the wheel and not doing our job. We’re probably going to have to pay for it with a lot of ‘heavy lifting’ in the education department and no I don’t mean any federal or state agency. The only real solution is education of people before they learn to become victims.

      29. ninaorket is a crazy as a loon s.o.b… they should takeaway his keyboard AND LOCK HIM UP! HE IS PUBLIC ENEMY #1!!! A PRIME CANDIDATE for INDEFINITE DETENTION!before he starts a GLOBAL REVOLUTIONARY WAR with his FREEMEN.PROJECT 2012 ANTI NWO.zionist.jew.oligarchy.banker organization… AND GETS US ALL LOCKED UP IN A FEMA CAMP! For fighten’ for our natural born killer rights as AMERICAN CITIZENS!

        IF YOU SEE THIS CRAZED long haired hippy freak NUTCASE ON THE STREETS!! DON’T WALK!! RUN!!! call dhs and the national guard… hide your women and farm animals…

        the dude is CRAZY! ;0p PSsszzt!

        • Talking to yourself again,LOl you are 1 crazy mf…lol

          • @dps ;0p crap … dude ;0) sheeeeeesh i’m a hidin’ from da’ feds … had two black tinted blazers literally track me on my mornin’ 4am combat hike this mornin’… talk about spider sense going off, the hair on my neck stood up… i’m packin’ serious heat now dude… a full can of bee spray every where i go… “shake shake shake” i get 25 yards out of this baby on a warm day! i’m a born doctor of death with this bad boy! “BEE AND WASPS FEAR ME!” ;0) you guys are terrible at opsec!

            NOW I GOTTA CHANGE MY NAME “”AGAIN”” !! SHEEeesh!

            Be safe bro… watch your six… the feds are very serious about all of this… once the feds start locking folks up it’s gonna snow ball… they’re just waiting for the right moment!

            They have to go for broke soon… they have no choice as we all gather strength to fight back they know their open window to lock down america completely gets narrower and narrower… they’ll attack the freedom lovin’ american citizens soon they have no choice!

            Get you kids thinkin’ of alternative safe secure meeting points and back up sanctuaries with good solid safe adults to protect them!

            There is way to much going on too track everything… take care of the basics first… the kids, then worry of the rest!

            ;0) see ya bro… loved your hitler harley vid!


            • LOL you too brother, just remember you can’t pick up those hot biker babes on a honda…LMFAO


            • I can hide you from the feds at my still site….the revenue man ain’t found it yet. Just don’t be drinking up all my shine.

              Oh and if you see a 3 legged bunny don’t shoot him….poor little bastard lost his leg in a trap I set for the revenue man.

              I feel sorry for the little guy so I been feeding him.

            • “You can run,but you can’t hide,from what’s inside of you”-Steely Dan

            • @dps oooooooooohhhhhhhhh dude sheeeit snap ;0) flmao how’d ya know????? HEY MY BIKE IS A honda 1100 shadow AND CRUISES VERY NICELY AT 100MPH , when it’s put together… ;0P pssszzt lmao nice you busted me good dude!

              that why i ripped the gurlie seat off my bike… after the first 5 miles having a fat chick on da’ back losses it’s thrill real fast… ;0) only skinny babes can stay on the fender now ;0) lmao! nice… later!

            • Crossed,
              Sounds alot like my harley, turn signals went in the parts bucket the first day I got it.. My turn signal is my middle finger..LOL

              L8er bud

            • @ieatworms … wrap your lips on this worm … who’s runnin’? notice i’m still here inbreeder … you might wanna ask yur’self why ? we’ll be see’in ya REAL SOON … that’s a very real promise! soon … yur’ first on my list.

            • Nina you are one bad ass! I love it keep it up!

            • @ legion, I see through you. Your lamb gathering is futile.

      30. I usually disagree with OWS’s mission and tactics. The sheep on the subway cannot change what our Congress has done and they do not want their lives to be interfered with by OWS. All OWS is doing here is further alienating themselves from mainstream America.
        I don’t like OWS. But, if they protested on the steps of Congress, 1600 Penn Ave, or their NY Reps offices, I could join them.

        • OWS doesn’t wanna change it, nobody seems to get the OWS movement. People say I don’t like them, or the are just kids that want something for nothing.. And yes some of the followers do feel like that.. But the Leaders which they have none of has got what the wanted.. That was to wake the sheeple up and start looking at everything going on. Some 200 kids started this and look at them now, Take a close look at the video and what I see is a group that is trying to get the word out. Also look at the PD they all are watching their backs. So you tell me how have they not reached any of the goals???


          • I like OWS too. While their goals aren’t really clear cut, the numbers are impressive and their tactics speak for themselves. If you all remember, the media tried to black them out when they first began to Occupy Wall St. in September but the sheer persistance and numbers made that impossible.

            I’m really interested to see what’s going to happen next week when they Occupy Congress.

            • I have a great deal of respect for those kids with OWS look at some of the video’s. Watch as they stand their ground while being pepper sprayed knowing that they are about to be arrested. Watch as the police jab them in the gut with a club and yet they still hold their ground.
              You really want to see this yrs most memorable photos well here you go.


              In what world do you live?

            • Doesn’t it blow your mind to see those kids just SITTING there, no threat at all, and getting sprayed right in the face?

              Ticks me off.

            • You are a fool, twice.

            • Plus two

            • Hey bobble head, you’re on a roll! Maybe getting srayed in the face would help you think more clearly. Open up you sinus some……….

            • My last post was directed at Daze-ee.

            • PO’d:

              Despite the fact that I have OVARIES, I still am allowed to do all sorts of things, like think for myself, vote, hold down a job – heck, they even let me drive a car these days.

              I’m not 100% sure why you have a problem with my optimistic outlook but that is your problem, not mine.

              What I do have a problem with is the disrespectful degrading language you are using with me. I’ve never given you any reason to be ungentlemanly, unless having an opinion is akin to dancing nekkid on top of tables, and yet there you are, making obscene comments.

              You do what you have to do – if you want to talk to me like I’m some kind of streetwalker, I can’t stop you. But your rhetoric says a lot more about YOU as a MAN than it says about me.

            • @ Daze-eez, I get the feeling that a streetwalker would be a step up for you.

      31. I question why that crowd of protesters did not RUSH the thin blue line and overwhelm the cops that had just “renditioned” their two comrades to possible torture. I see that there is a follow-up video with the woman. At least the guy and gal were not indefinitely “detained.” Soon enough citizens will be “disappeared” – victims of NDAA. We have a recent example of resistance. On Jan. 5th, there was an incident in Ogden, UT. A single man, Matthew David Stewart, 37, determined to survive an armed assault on his home successfully shot and wounded six home intruders- six members of the Ogden SWAT team trying to serve a no-knock warrant for a suspected misdemeanor drug offense. Just Google his name and the details will come up. Read the readers comments and you will be surprised to learn that the citizens are split about 60/40 in favor of the armed citizen – the police are losing the respect of the very citizen upon whom they are “serving” warrants. Until each of the cops shown in the video above trembles before his shift with the thought that he may not make it to pension – or home that night to his wife and kids, then the .gov will be able to employ willing enforcers. Just look at that fat B-I-T-C-H with the radio at 1:10. I believe she is thinking, “I didn’t sign up for this shit.” I wonder what these Mooks In Blue (MIB) will do when they are ordered to confront the Open Carry crowd protesting the NDAA?

        • No knock warrents get what they deserve.. a wall of lead

          a No Knock warrent in and of itself is against our Bill of rights and our basic human rights ,, so fuck em if their stupid enough to play that shit..especially now

          • I bet those 6 cops who felt the heat of the lead will not want to play this stupid gastapo game again..
            any person badge or no badge that comes thru a persons door unwanted and un warrented diserve to meet their maker, especially forced entry

            just because they suit up to be tyrants doesnt mean they cant be taken out for their foolish freedom grabbing move

            and the announcements (if there were any) at the door of “police” have been used by criminals too so In the law enforcements best interests , they should go back to playing by the rules

            day light door knocks and wating out the suspect with signed warrent in hand with what and where of what they “suspect”
            and proper treatment of the suspect, because after all we are supposed to be treated innocent until proven guilty..its really something they have forgotten..and its going to cost them a lot of fot soldiers at this rate

            oathkeepers need to wake up their fellow man in uniform as to the tactics they are being pushed to take and the consequences of these types of actions

            you bust a door down thinking your billy bad ass..dont come crying to me when your head rolls out the front door

            or dont they teach these jackbooted thugs this anymore

            • VRF,
              I know right, New Yrs night I got my visit from PD, but he never stepped through the gate and neither did I. The funny part is that in the shop my 2 freinds sat having a drink both carrying and I had my 92fs with a couple of mags under my shirt. Go figure.. LOL
              Just a hint, POST YOUR PROPERTY.


            • yep its posted..and i always am packing, and no one uninvited gets in…or out

            • No, next time they’ll just go in with a tank. I mean, it worked for the Chinese and many other Asian (and European) countries…

        • Nubbin,

          You won’t have to wait long to find out, The way I see it the shooting of police will pick up,they have been in the news for the last 7 or 10 days and all on MSM, We have also seen a increase in shootings by homeowners and they will pick up too. This will enable the PTB to convince the sheeple that guns are bad and should be taking away from the public. Thats when the line drawn by the American gun owners will be crossed, And then shtf. Its all a chess game..


          • well if thats the case..theres some places they should just ignore..especially if their allergic to lead

            • Irony: They will take guns to prevent violence… using guns to commit violence? Err, yeah that makes sense. That’s like ****ing for virginity! It’s the one statement that I’ve never heard a good antigun reply with a good argument to.

          • ” Unintended Consequences”

          • ~DPS~

            Never play chess w/ the cops! Some are decent guys, some are egotistical trash, but if your scenario ever comes to pass…..

            …Whoever comes onto my property, with the intent of confiscating my weaponry for whatever reason….had better PACK A LUNCH & BRING PLENTY OF BODY BAGS, ‘CUZ THEY’RE IN FOR A LONG F**KING DAY!

            • Thats right and my God says use large caliber to shot at others.

            • shoot at others

            • Solo? You’re just get overwhelmed since they don’t fight fair and when they rarely lose, they come back with their 100 buddies and a tank. Now I’d like to see them try that to entire states… Colorado’s MMJ law comes to mind. A lot of states have straight up told the DEA that they’ll arrest and fine anyone breaking the state’s own laws, including the feds. Of course the Supreme Court will find in the favor of the feds, but it would look horrible and cost them politically. This is of course the states’ plan – to force an amendment explicitly stating that the states can override the feds on intrastate commerce instead of relying on the judges to do their job and follow the amendments they don’t like that forbid giving them more power. Also, possession is 9/10ths of the law and the feds could find a state just ignore the SC saying their orders are illegal. After all, it’s a lot harder to enforce a law when the local government is going out of it’s way to trip you up.

        • ~N-FJR~

          Thumbs up to you!!!!!!!!!!

          Google the “battle of Athens Tennessee’…real story, actually happened sometime around 1947 or ’48, a bunch of WW-II vets got sick & tired of the bravo-sierra corrupt politics & the police heavies of the local ‘good ole’ boy govt…..response = they armed themselves & took care of business! Classic Urban Warfare at its best!!!

          Its a fascinating read & isn’t taught in our brain laundromats(public schools) because those guys(vets) took Thomas Jefferson’s words….”The Tree of liberty must be watered w/ the blood of tyrants & etc, etc….literally & whupped ass, big-time!!!

          Naturally, the nanny state can’t have folks following their example, so that bit of American history was consigned to the memory-hole of oblivion (–deep sigh–).

          Its funny in a way because I cannot help, but reflect on that little episode, every time I read NinaO’s, JP’s or the flavor of the day persona’s-post, for a call to arms……….mainly because THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT’S NEEDED!!! Our differences are small…tactics & strategy only.

          @DPS…Kudos, sir!
          Now take that mindset(courage) & contemplate the measures you’d employ to attack/pester/defeat an OCCUPIER of your country. Call it a mental exercise in RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY…writ large!

          • @ Gunsmith, “the battle of Athens Tennessee”, among my MOST favorite bedtime stories. Thanks for the reminder. I will sleep well tonight. Exactly the kind of resolute action by “everyone” that could well turn-the-tide back to “floating OUR boat”, instead of THEIR boat.

            • For those not familiar with Gunsmith’s reference to the “battle of athens Tennessee”, do some research. You will understand why “returning veterans” are high on the “potential domestic terror list”.

              What if this action were produced from “sea-to-shining-sea” rather than in one county of one state. BINGO and YAHTZEE!

          • Gunsmith,

            Yes sir I’m on that, Magazines are loaded, scopes are sighted in and the powder is dry.Now I just need some more good books.


        • Coming soon. No knock using the internet warrants. Wish I was joking.

      32. A very good example of why Obama has got to go!!!!!ONE AND DONE!!!!!Ron Paul gets my vote.

        • It burdens me to think it, but unless Ron Paul is elected nothing will change. TSA, no knocks, NDAA, SOPA, police state, finacial colapse, basically the end of America.

          • You need more than just the President. You need to replace all the senators and governors that support this kind of mess. SOPA, NDAA, what next, mass gun/car/computer/phone seizing just to make sure no one can ’cause trouble’? Legally mandated electronic jamming and physical cutoffs to entire cities? Think I’m kidding – look at how the Germans wanted to control radio ownership.

            Heck, they’re already on a SOPA Mk. II where they want to go after individuals instead of big companies who might hire lobbyists to defend themselves with. The country’s current leader in pro-censorship, Levin Carl needs to go!

      33. I do not bow to the agencies who serve me.

        • You Commie!

          • Irony: Soviets serve you in the sense of “To serve man”
            Additional irony: Commies are the last people to refuse to serve everyone else on a platter…

      34. Barack Obama’s 32 Month Report Card
        by Rich Carroll

        Copy this article. You will need researched material to mail your liberal friends and/or relatives.

        Mr. Hope and Change wants to create a nation humbled; humiliated, casting-aside capitalism and individual freedoms for one where we the people are government controlled. This would be a system that genuflects mediocrity, steals personal aspiration and opportunity, and punishes those who strive to succeed.

        A gallon of regular gasoline the day Obama was inaugurated was $1.79 on average in the U.S. Today that price is $3.59, a 100.6% increase.

        The number of food stamp recipients has risen since Obama took office from 31,983,716 to 43,200,878, a 35.1% jump.

        Long term unemployment soared 146.2% during the same 32 month period from 2,600,000 to 6,400,000. Staggering hope and change isn’t it?

        American citizens living in poverty have risen 9.5% from 39,800,000 to 43,600,000, and the number of unemployed has jumped almost 25% from 11,616,000 to 14,485,000 as of August 31, 2011.

        The number of unemployed blacks has risen from 12.6% at the end of George Bush’s term to 15.8% today, a 25.4% increase, and finally, our national debt is up 34.4% from 10.627 trillion to 14,278 trillion *

        Keep these figures in mind as we recount the number of firsts for this presidency:
        First President to refuse to show a valid birth certificate.
        First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.
        First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.
        First President to preside over a cut to the credit rating of the United States.
        First President to violate the War Powers Act.
        First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.
        First President to defy a Federal Judges court order to cease implementing the Health Care Reform Law.
        First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.
        First President to spend a trillion dollars on shovel-ready jobs and later admit there was no such thing as shovel-ready jobs.
        First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.
        First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.
        First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S., including those with criminal convictions.
        First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.
        First President to terminate Americas ability to put a man in space.
        First President to encourage racial discrimination and intimidation at polling places.
        First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.
        First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.
        First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly speak-out on the reasons for their rate increases.
        First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which state they are allowed to locate a factory.
        First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect. (AZ, WI, OH, IN)
        First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been properly issued years ago.
        First President to fire an inspector general of Ameri-corps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.
        First President to appoint 45 Czars to replace elected officials in his office.
        First President to golf 73 separate times in his first two and a half years in office.
        First President to hide his medical, educational and travel records.
        First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.
        First President to coddle American enemies while alienating Americas allies.
        First President to publicly bow to Americas enemies while refusing to salute the U.S. Flag.
        First President to go on multiple global apology tours.
        First President to go on 17 lavish vacations, including date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends, paid for by the taxpayer.
        First President to refuse to wear the U.S. Flag lapel pin.
        First President to have 22 personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife.
        First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000.00 a year at taxpayer expense.
        First President to repeat the Holy Qur’an tells us, and openly admit the early morning call of the Azan (Islamic call to worship) is the most beautiful sound on earth.

        Remember that 32 months of Obama White House we the people have accumulated national debt at a rate more than 27 times as fast as during the rest of our nation’s entire history, as the Obama’s plan their next extravagant vacation to the Indonesian Island nation of Bali.

        Hope and change anyone ?????????

        *sources: U.S. Energy Information Administration, Wall Street Journal, Bureau of Labor Statistics, US Dept of Labor, Standard & Poors/Case-Shiller, Federal Reserve, US Treasury, Heritage Foundation.


        • After all that he’s a shoe in for re election. the morons love him and there are a hell of alot more of them than us. I have not a clue how this slide to hell can be stopped let alone reversed since the Congress will not do it’s job. they must have all woke up with a horses head in their bed or something. Whatever they are terrified of him and his machine.

          • Your presumption of “a horses head in their bed or something” is more accurate than you may imagine. Then again, I’m not in your head. But you are very close to the “truth”, intended or not.

      35. @DPS , what do you mean about ” Post your property” ?
        I have my 10 acres out in what used to be the country ….but the city
        of Houston has been closing in on us. If there is some particular verbiage that
        I need to use , Please advise .
        Montgomery County Texas

        • RT, you need to put up a sign every 300 ft or less that says:

          PRIVATE LAND
          NO TRESPASS

          Do not use “trespassing” or “property”. Those are commercial, corporate term and indicate areas where the “authorities” have authority.

          “Private land, no tresspass” indicates that the land is non-commercial and actually owned by a (wo)man. They won’t even come on the land unless they have the sheriff with them AND a warrant. Even then, they will tread lightly, so I’m told.

          What people don’t realize is that everything has been “incorporated”. But, what they don’t want you to know is that its all *ENTIRELY* voluntary. However, since 99.99% of people don’t know how it all works, everyone stays in line.

          I am the .01% and, lawfully, I’ll kick their asses right back into corporate hell upon a whim.

          Know who you are, what you are, what they are and who they are. Freedom is here and now and their power is very limited. They don’t let you know that so most people think the power of the “authorities” is absolute. It is not. Stand like a (wo)man, not like a fiction.

          The truth shall set you free and then you shall be free, indeed!

          • That’s why they’ll send the 2000Lb JDAM…

            • You really shouldn’t worry about it she-child, you’ll just piss yourself.

            • PO’d…What, me worry?

          • I used to have to collect water samples from rivers in my job. We had to monitor pollution levels coming from the waste water plant that I worked at. We tried to always not make the land owners mad that had gates in our way. I don’t think we ever had to have the county sheriff with a court order with us to take those samples – in the entire history of the plant.

            Yeah, tread lightly when you’re on someone’s land regardless of laws requiring them to let us take samples. The evil trick some – no wait, I think ALL big cities use is to ‘incorporate’ or ‘annex’ you into them so they can do eminent domain theft of your land. Texas is really bad about that, BTW. Courts seem to love ruling against homeowners.

      36. “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.” JFK 1962.

        “It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled, or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by the dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs and comes up short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy course; who at the best, knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who, at worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory or defeat.” THEODORE ROOSEVELT 1910

      37. It appears that NY’s finest mistook the girl as a Jets fan.

      38. Random,

        In town I posted a “Posted No Treaspassing Keep Out” sign to all gates. its that simple you might check with the sheriff down there about how many ft you need to have these signs out of town, but I can tell you since I put them up not even the PD will come through the gate without a warrent. And if you are ask to step of your land for any reason DO NOT DO IT. if you have been drinking you will get a P.I.


        • DPS

          You must live in Maybury RFD. A Keep Out sign would be an invitation for a Phila cop.

          Seriously I would like to know where you live because it sounds like a pretty good place.

          • Kevin,
            I live in the panhandle of TX. Hell we still carry shotguns in the front seat of the truck, never know when you might see some Pheasent..LOL.I know the hard times have hit all over the country, but here well they just built 10 more new houses just 4 blocks away and they are all sold. Theft and home break-ins dropped after a couple of shootings and the hot spot for thurs night for the ladies in the indoor pistol range. BTW rapes are almost never happen in these parts. And a trip out to the country for a sunday BBQ sounds like a war zone everybody shoots around here..


            So grab your guns and your cooler and lets BBQ

            • Ha! Sounds like my county. When I’m shooting I have about 3 neighbors within a few miles that I hear doing the same.

              Hardly a day goes by in this nice weather that someone isn’t blazing away at something within a few miles. There are breakins to the east in town and to the west in the next county but hardly ever whithin a few miles of my place. I need a sign: YOU LOOT, WE SHOOT. Wife and both kids can handle the shotgun and the pistols.

              Burglary in my county has a high mortality rate.

            • In Kentucky, the friendly fireworks(NOT!)keep us alert, too.
              The joke is if an outsider(Californian) calls sheriff when hearing target practice, sheriff brings extra ammo.

              And Kevin 2…great idea..resistance with a touch of class.

            • Re: war zone. I’m in New Hampshire which some people have called “The South of the North”. I’ve heard so much Sunday gunfire lately in medium sized towns you’d think the militia thing was back in style. NH is a tiny backwater, but it does feature the only state constitution that allows for revolution. It currently has the lowest poverty of any state however, which doesn’t exactly foment a revolution. NH will let you know when the revolution comes because when it hits the fan there, it’s hit the fan everywhere.

        • @ DPS : Thx for the info. We all gotta stick together. I try to learn something new every day. I will check with my local County Sheriff & see what he says. Keep on preppin Y’all !
          Montgomery County Texas

          • Random,

            Glad it helped and your welcome sir.


            Randall County Texas

      39. All protests in the world will not hurt TPTB.
        Only thing we can do and not get arrested is stop spending. Stop travel to Vacation places, Leave as little cash in the Banks. Only buy car if it needed to be replaced. Buy food and eat at home more. I know it will cost jobs if it work but still it the one thing TPTB can not force you to do.
        Leave as little for them to take from you. Make them ask what going on? Make them worry. Buy local

        I know we always have pay bills. Buy food, fuel and keep roof over our heads.

        Stop spending,only replace what need to be replace and check out Good Will. And Yard Sales anything but going to Box stores.

      40. The way to do this is once they arrest one person for shouting then another starts singing God Bless America at the top of their lungs and so on and so on until they don’t have sufficient police to handle it. Once they get out of jail it’s time to return and repeat the process. Bring lots of cameras and video those being arrested for videoing. Oh video them too. Have a couple of people “not part” of the protest there to wisk away any recording device that they will attempt to confiscate and get that bright laid off 20 something to get it on You Tube before you can say “not guilty”.

        Fill the place with a few thousand protestors to be arrested day after day.

        • “Under common law, I do not consent and I waive the benefits.”

          Did anyone try it? No.

          So they hauled all of them away. Too bad they don’t know who they are. They were treated like corporate fictions because they thought they were. Pitiful.

          Know who you are. Enforce the law.

          • NetRanger

            Please explain the above.

            • I can’t give you a full explanation… but it a nut shell, by saying that phrase you are making it known that you are not the corporate fiction(all caps Name)or strawman that the governments agents assume you are, by your failure to tell them this up front.If you are a man/woman and not a “person” a business term, it supposedly preserves your constitutional “rights” instead of placing you under “agency” law.
              Just do some google searches about sovereign citizens
              There’s one site…something like USA vs Us that gives a pretty concise explanation

            • I tried something similar to this just the other day in circuit court here in Missouri, I was there for a following to close ticket after my first fender bender in 25 yrs…

              I nervously stood before the and said “your honor I do hear the allegations that you allege, but I do not understand the charges without prejudice under Uniform Commercial Code 1-207, due to mistakes in fact and Law, I wish to remain silent.
              He stared at me for a moment, brought me in close and sort of made some small talk, handed me the clerk slip and said I was free to go.
              I’m not sure if I really won or not but I only had to pay the court costs, didn’t plead guilty or not, no points, etc

              The court costs upon further inspection weren’t “court” costs they were a “law enforcement fee”

          • @Kevin2…he can’t. NetRanger is the biggest blow hard that posts on this site. If you don’t agree with him, or believe his ‘advise’, you are either a troll or a hack. I think he’s just an armchair cowboy, ready to defend his big spread in the country with his mouse — and be sure not to say anything about Ron Paul, he’ll send the drones over to bomb you. How did Randy Newman say it? Big Hat no cattle, big head no brains, big horse no saddle…pretty much says it all. GMAFB

            • They’ve been committing people for saying stuff like that. It’s to make it so that you can’t legally own a gun. That’s twisted and evil. It’s like you’re a felony convict without a trial and only a 30-day ‘sentence’. It’s like the judge in California who years ago had people charged with littering because they were throwing people’s (subscribed) newspapers on the lawn. The paper was exposing his issues so it was pure retaliation just like taking your gun rights away(privileges under that definition) for daring to speak up against a cop or judge. Quartzsite, AZ is doing something like with the recall of a mayor who tried to dig into financial corruption in the town. Some said it was small-town politics but they obviously haven’t seen what happens in some big cities. It’s not unique to Podunk, USA.

      41. The thing that really makes me sick is that the Americans who will be doing the unthinkable will believe they are doing the right thing in ignoring the Constitution, in trampling on other Americans Rights, and what ever may come after that.

        In the late 1930s did the German people recognize that they were in fact becoming something sinister? Did they realize that they were on a path that was down right evil?

        How many Americans will we one day hear say “…but I was just following orders.”

        This @#$% is getting scary.

      42. All of these problems have been brought on by “BOTH” the democratic and republican parties. They can’t point the finger fast and feriously enough at each other for the country’s problems, and all the while they assure us that a vote for them, republican or democrat, will clearly correct all of these problems. They’re pathologic liars. I think we all know that. So it’s time for us to try something new, obviously. Check out the “Justice Party.” Rocky Anderson is the presidential candidate for the Justice Party. A third party, sure, but I think we can all agree on the definition of insanity: To keep doing the same thing over and over and over and expecting a different result. Wake up, people! Time has come today!

        • Divide and Conquer. Oldest strategy in the history of the world.

      43. Oh, jeez! Are you still publishing articles written by that insufferable hack? Its not like he’s done any research or anything.


      44. Please read what police and FBI could get away with before this law was passed with a search for “New police weapon against homeless” on homeless forums. These crimes have gone unreported. A Masters degree will not protect you against those in power determined to take away your rights. Bill Anderson [email protected]

      45. honest question for everyone here… how much more NWO B.S. must we all suffer as a nation , a FREE PEOPLE at the hands of a handful of NWO.ZIONIST.FACIST.OLIGARCHY.BANKERS , how many more americans must die???? HOW MANY MORE VIOLATIONS OF THE U.S. CONSTITUTION before we as PATRIOTS are socially allowed to rise as ONE and take down the ILLEGAL GOVERNMENT in control of america at this time???????????? honest question for all here????

        when is enough … ENOUGH???

        just curious … thank you for all responses! sincerely!

        • It seems to me like the time is near. Even in places that are not related to patriot activities, there is a constant whisper about the things that are going on. I know people here don’t like Facebook much but you should see the increase in status updates of people who are outraged at the freedoms being taken away.

          I think the problem is that your everyday average folks just don’t know what to do about it.

          Leadership is vital. People need to be pointed in the right direction and organized.

          • ~Daisy~

            You’re on Facebook? Good! Then pass this around & ask folks if they realize they’re (unwitting) ‘Proxy-cannibals”…


            • That is utterly repulsive…..unbelievable!

          • @ daze-eeduh.”I think the problem is that your everyday average folks just don’t know what to do about it”. Then you talk about folks should go to Facebook? Really? You are a bobble-headed bimbo of the first order! I know,… Lets all right a big fat check to ol’ Ninoroonie and join up with his 200K homeless vets who I’m sure are in great physical shape and take on DC. Just reading some of this drivel make me rethink that maybe some population reduction is certainly in order.

            • Lighten up Francis!

        • As one that’s had all I can take….I can’t take it no more…holy shit, did I just use a loverboy line?
          Hang on I need to grab a beer and google that…yup this kid is hot tonight(not really I be 44 years young)….oh jeez I think I did it again!

          OK seriously….were not there yet….its coming the storm clouds are gathering…but because 60 years of social engineering have seriously divided this nation…I still hold to the belief of holding the moral high ground…for now.

          Seriously all, if you have not yet, read, studied and understand how guerrilla warfare/resistance works…do it.

          The (majority) of people have to be at the right point.

          There must be enough discontent among the general populace that they have nothing left to loose, and at the same time a belief that they can win.

          This is then when the guerrilla fighters (overt resistance), along with the subversive underground, supported by the support auxiliary(general populous)wage their war against their tyrant enemies.

          So yes, unfortunately in the interim between here and there. The Tyrants and their meanies will crack down more…People will die… people will be arrested….people will be frustrated, some scared, some angry, some in denial…etc.

          This will build, until enough of the population feels they have nothing more to loose and everything to gain. It doesn’t have to be the entire population, but it does have to be enough to insure at the very least a war of attrition and hopefully victory…not a quick and decisive defeat.

          • ~RWS-3~

            —(quote)…This will build, until enough of the population feels they have nothing more to loose and everything to gain. It doesn’t have to be the entire population, but it does have to be enough to insure at the very least a war of attrition and hopefully victory…not a quick and decisive defeat…(unquote)—

            Somebody(smart) posted on a previous thread, an oblique reference to studying the tactics employed by the IRA(Irish Republican Army). Sound advice in my opinion!

            Irregardless of what one thinks of their politics, the fact remains that the IRA managed to fight a nuclear power(England) to a standstill, using small arms, brains & largely home-brewed explosives.
            Their victory reinforces my belief that, its not the Generals, Heads of State or National Legislatures who decide when to capitulate…it is the regime’s ACCOUNTANTS!!!!!!

            LESSON= Merely make it too expensive for them to beat/destroy your cause!

            —-Good post, btw!—-

            • To reiterate a portion of what made the IRA so effective:

              “The hammer blows of the guerrillas destroyed the British administration. The guerrillas acted in small numbers in the right localities and compelled the British to disperse to find them. Then as the British searched, they hit them at will by means of the ambush. Communications were systematically destroyed and even the British army’s transport system in the country was disorganised.”

              “The enemy’s intelligence service was completely dislocated. The R.I.C.- the eyes and ears of British rule- was demoralised. British justice courts could not operate–for the people ignored them. The British gradually were forced to evacuate the smaller, more isolated garrisons. They concentrated in the larger towns. The areas evacuated came under sole control of The Republic. The next step was to isolate the larger centres and keep cutting communications and constantly hitting the enemy. In time these would have been evacuated too. Thus ended the last great phase of guerrilla operations against British rule in Ireland.”

              IT HAS WORKED, AND CAN WORK AGAIN. I like your “intellectual process” Gunsmith.

            • ~Yental~

              The respect is mutual, sir!
              I read & reflect upon every post you author.

              You know its a damn shame we couldn’t get 15-20 of the solid types here, together in a room, for some real brainstorming/idea swapping!!!

              Sadly, if we did…we’d all get slapped w/ a conspiracy charge…

              Watch your six brother & keep THINKING!!!!!!!!!!!

            • @ yental and gunsmith, very good example and points. I get so sick of hearing the bitching from those with a defeatist attitude. You can’t win, they’ll drop a JDAM on you, they have tanks,jets, bombs, missiles, drones etc. You can’t win!

              How did that work out for the US when dealing with the VC in Vietnam?
              How did it work out for the USSR against the mujaheddin?
              How well did that work for the Brits against the IRA?
              How’s it going for the US currently in A’stan?

              The IRA believed strongly enough in 26+6=1….enough to fight and die for that goal. Although they haven’t fully achieved it, they were victorious on many points.

              Also I here all the time, we need a Jefferson, or a Washington or a hero.

              Yeah we do need hero’s….We need heroes, build them
              Don’t put your fist up, fill them
              With our hopes, with our hearts and our hands
              We’re the architects of our last stand

              I ain’t no Jefferson, I ain’t no badass former navy seal/Ex Ranger/Special Forces/CIA assassin Rambo

              But I am gawd damn sick and tired of seeing the destruction of my country and the police state being erected around me!

              If the bastards come for me at 5:00am, I’ll do my damnedest to take as many with me as I can. If that never happens, but the SHTF happens and a war ensues….I’ll do my best to make sure they list my AO red on the red green map.

              I’ve seen my pay cut nearly in half in the last 5 years, I also work half as much, at the same time inflation goes up.
              My dog died, my wife divorced me, and I had to cash in on my retirement savings…how much more I got to loose!

              I don’t want war, but they declared it…so I say resist, and fight to win!

              Cause it’s coming like it or not!
              The storm clouds are brewing…it will be here soon!

            • @RWS III, what you recognize and verbalize via “keystrokes” is OUR reality. Those that consistently denegrate all forms of active resistance and defiance with “you can’t win, you can’t make a difference, and your a nutjob” are either completely ignorant/stupid…or paid to continue that line of defeatist rhetoric.

              The revolutionary founders of this country no doubt faced similar absurdities and “professional doubt dealers”. Continue to research and go with your gut. “It” seems to be digesting/absorbing quality nutrition.

        • There will come a point in the future where even though most of the population won’t rise up, they will passively harbor/protect those that do. We all see the uneasyness that the general population feels. BUT they are not to the point YET where they will passively support any resistance to authority.
          To me, I think we are still in the first stages of this thing. I look at it as an awakening. People are getting educated. But still somewhat confused about what direction to go with this new information. The first sign i see of this confusion is the climb in gun ownership and investment in metals.
          Soon people that are preppers won’t be considered fringe elements, they will be looked at as planners who were the first to see the writing on the wall. Then prepping will become mainstream. That will be my cue for the house of cards to collapse.

          • Invest in metals – but not just gold and silver! Lead and nickel and iron and such are good too (‘the iron that distributes the lead’ as the old saying goes), but that’s not the point. Anything that can be used to maintain/make/fix stuff is like gold that keeps on giving if you have the skills to use them. So be sure to make some of the tools that HackADay or the like have if you’re into electronics and mechanics. The same goes for getting a stash of spare tools from the ‘bargain bin’ of a pawn shop and learning about engines and automobiles in general. I got tons of metric and standard driver bits and wrenches and even screwdrivers for less than $20. We’re using them all the time so it’s not just a worthless ‘holding’ or ‘investment’ like gold that won’t do you any good in the meantime and have to discreetly get rid of which is hard for large quantities when the comes. To be clear of what I mean, I’ll restate that gold isn’t worthless when you need it but it’s definitely just wasting space until you do and doing you no good. Even counting depreciation from wear and tear, it’s hard to find a better bargain than something you can use even if things go south. That price is an estimate of course and includes getting many spares for the bits I tend to use a lot and different lengths and sockets (deep socket, short, 1/4th, 3/8th, and so on).

            The skills you get will be worth your weight in gold, if things get bad. They’ll still be useful to you in the meantime and you’ll be encouraged by their current usefulness to invest in them even more. There’s no such thing as too much skill and ability. Knowledge is power, brothers and sisters and everyone else! Power tools are power, too! (Sorry for pun, heh) 😉

      46. cross eye’d red headed step child ,

        Y’all, I’ve had enough!

        Daisy, I’m pointing as many people as I can in the direction of gaining knowledge as to what’s going on. I just feel that many think they don’t have the where – with – all to fight. What many forgot – they don’t need an AR15 with 2,000 rounds as their pen (email) is mightier than the sword.

        Nina, would say that I was right just 5,000 rounds for starters! What a Hoot!

        Y’all Beware!

        God Bless.


      48. Kinda like sitting around in a circle striking matches and tossing them in a vat of gasoline only to see them go out…wonder why that one didnt catch on?hmmm …it sure should have…probably end up being some seemingly silly little event that goes unnoticed ,unreported and unappreciated till its all hindsight…not likely to start with a great big Bunker Hill or Shiloh type confrontation more likely some unknown obscure person(s)or event…then again I could be wrong…we’ll know when we know.

        • Where is our Rosa Parks?

          • maybe you are she

          • Better question is where’s our Moses??

            USATODAY.com – they are taking a poll on whether the second amendment gives you the right to bear arms.

            So far of 10,000,000 votes, 97% says ‘yes’.

            • JayJay,

              Please post a link the only story I found was 3 yrs old.

            • No the second amendment does not give you a right to own a gun.

              That right is God given!

              It does not come from another man(politician/king/monarch) or from a document.

              The 2nd amendment is merely a reminder to the government that THEY cannot take that right away.

              Shall not be infringe!

          • Thrown under de bus by Obamer and soon to be Oromney.

        • Agreed, God moves in mysterious ways, a small event,barely a blip on a radar screen can cause unforseen events to radiate outwards.

      49. Next step, the Reichstag building catches fire…

        • That already happened on 09/11/01. Polish terrorists were replaced with Muslim terrorists and the faux investigation, conviction, and sentence was carried out in a matter of hours without anything resembling a legitimate trial or legal process.

      50. Well now, this just takes the cake!* People protest the increased police powers and the police respond by…arresting them for speaking out! Kinda like going to your mechanic for a noise under the hood. He grabs a sledge hammer and pounds on the alternator. “There. The squeal from the alternator will drown out the rattle noise. Now get outta here and don’t bug me about piddly little problems with the engine..”

        *denotes an antiquated phrase which may be used only by people over 40, and only if they heard it from their grandparents. origin: unknown meaning:unknown, but it sounds nice

        • And for the people in the waiting room of that mechanic, Okie, to follow your metaphor, the secretary just turns the radio up to drown out the racket in the shop.

      51. Unacceptable, intolerable, and unendurable.

      52. Don’t let the white-trash redneck facade fool you. (it’s all just opsec)Contrary to appearances, here at the Okie compound we are ready. Locked and loaded. Powder is dry and very abundant. Along with a few security measures that even nina o might find impressive. (then again he’d probably say “ah hell, I did that years ago. is that all you got?”) We’ve been at DEFCON 1 so long, it’s starting to feel normal. Meanwhile, life goes on….

        Today’s News Headlines–

        Microsoft is catching flack for their new “Avoid Ghetto’ ap for GPS systems. It routes you around the high crime, gangster areas. Maybe they should call it the ‘Naive Yuppie Safety Routing Feature.’ Politically correct types are up in arms, claiming it discriminates against minority areas. (oh, cry me a river, you multicultural twits. we WANT it this way) Microsoft also has an ap to avoid redneck white-trash areas. I downloded it and my house, everybody I know, and half the state of Oklahoma dissapeared from my nav system.

        The folks who adjust the Doomsday Clock say they’re gonna move it up a minute, to 11:55. Just 5 minutes before doomsday. I’m wondering though, with daylight savings time will we get an extra hour or be shoved 55 minutes into the appocalypse?

        There’s a guy in Saudi Arabi named Saud bin Nasser Al Shahry (that’s arabic for “Dad of the Year’) who’s trying to sell his son on Facebook. He needs the money I suppose, but there are easier ways to make a living over there. Like selling your daughters into the slave trade…

        Speaking of the middle east- a man in Iran recently had his …um…his…let’s call it his private parts tatooed. The procedure has left him with a permanent semi-errection. At first he was embarrassed but now he’s discovered a whole new career as a middle eastern rock star. The message was inked into his…uh…’member’ in his native arabic language. He claims the english translation is ‘Good luck on all your journeys’ which is kinda cool if you think about it. However, his doctor has seen it and swears the real interpretation is ‘Don’t leave home without it.’

        President Obama wants to move the last day of the upcoming Democratic National Convention to Bank of America stadium in Charlotte, NC. Supporters claim they need the extra room for the crowds, but actually, it’s just another way to make money. Why else would he have proposed naming the various gov departments things like- the Monsanto Dept of Agriculture, the Lockheed-Martin Dept of Defense, The Boeing United States Air Force, the Goldman Sachs Dept of the Treasury, the NEA Dept of Education, the Pfizer Food and Drug Administration? Oh, and don’t forget to vote this November at the Diebold General Election…

        • Your killin me man. I’m trying to stay focused and I’ve got comedy central on steroids “ticklin” my funny bone. Go ahead and “out yourself”. You have to be producing “scripts” for some “MSM funny guy”. And if your not, look at all the “crisp $10 dollar bills” you are leaving on the table. LOL.

        • SmokinOkie you crack me up dude!

          Speaking of Oklahoma, last time I drove through I was driving a uhaul and pulling a trailer, I sure could have used an ap that directed us around all those toll roads.

          For the amount of money they rake in you’d think those highways would be paved in gold, not shitty and bumpy.

          Never did quite understand why when an attendant was present we got charged per axle, think it was like 12 or 14 bucks(ouch) but when unattended a little change or a token from the token machine would raise the bar.

          And I’d love to slap the shit out of the dumbass that installed the anti theft bar across the token machine over the top of the bill slot….hello kinda hard to stick a dollar bill in a blocked slot.

      53. Do not go gentle into that good night,
        Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
        Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

        Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
        Because their words had forked no lightning they
        Do not go gentle into that good night.

        Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
        Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
        Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

        Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
        And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
        Do not go gentle into that good night.

        Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
        Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
        Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

        And you, my father, there on the sad height,
        Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
        Do not go gentle into that good night.
        Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

      54. Many first shots have been fired already. SHTF way over due. btw the gun shop was packed over the week end. People buying up everything.

      55. There comes a time in a man’s life when he has to put his foot down!
        No more politicians telling me what to do!

        No more NDAA and Change!

        I have applied this single answer to many of our problems and intend to use it as vigorously as they, the politicians, have done for the special interest groups.
        It is a way to show them we’re tired of the fu#&in!

        It may not be the end all, but it satisfies me now and many future moments, as part of our survival and prepping to come.

        It is with great pleasure that I am first to introduce this exciting new method!

        This one is called – The Merger.
        Renault and Ford have joined forces to create the perfect small car for women.

        Mixing the Renault ‘Clio’ and the Ford ‘Taurus’ they have designed the ‘Clitaurus’. It comes in pink, and the average male car thief won’t be able to find it – let alone turn it on – even if someone tells him where it is and how to do it.

        Rumor has it though, that it leaks transmission fluid once a month, and can be a real bitch to start in the morning! Marketing was going to call the sporty model the ‘Period’ but changed their minds as they wanted to portray the image of never stopping so they will call it the ‘Comma’ instead.

        Some have reported that on cold winter mornings, when you really need it, you can’t get it to turn over.

        New models are initially fun to own, but very costly to maintain, and horribly expensive to get rid of. Used models may initially appear to have curb appeal and a low price, but eventually have an increased appetite for fuel, and the curb weight typically increases with age.

        Manufacturers are baffled as to how the size of the trunk increases, but say that the paint may just make it LOOK bigger.

        This model is not expected to reach collector status. Most owners find it is best to lease one, and replace it each year. They have learned from the Banker Barons – if it flies, fornicates or floats, rent it!

        Y’all Beware! We’ve only just begun!

      56. I have been posting links regarding NDAA on Facebook for weeks now. Over 100 FB friends and not ONE comment on these posts, nada…nothing! For the life of me, I don’t understand what is wrong with people?? Are they brain dead? How can they not get it? In fact, no one seems to even comment or post anything on my wall anymore…out-cast. Well, they can’t say I didn’t try. On another note, I watched the Ron Paul post-primary address this evening. Awesome! What an energized crowd too!

        • Facebook=the antifreedom
          It gives you the illusion of freedom but steals the real deal. Think of seemingly holding up the liberty tree while slowly strangling the roots.

      57. There could be an upside to losing US citizenship. I’ve heard one could become a state citizen, and be released from the federal contract machine. Surrendering the Social Stupidity number could be beneficial to ones’ freedom.

      58. @POPatriot…”Best tend to your knitting, old hen”?? LOL!!! Just how old do you think this “hen” is? And I’d rather do back to my canning!! LOL!!

        • SML, To an Ol’ Hen from an Ol’Rooster. I did chuckle to myself as I keyed it in. Seriously, you can do what you want, but I’d shy away from Ninorket or what ever flavor he’s uses as it strikes him. He takes on characters of Legion (for we are many) from the scriptures and who he’s working for ain’t good. JM2CW. YMMMV.

          • Well PO’d…you are right for calling yourself an Ol’ Rooster…you sure have been acting like one the last few days!! LOL!! What’s come over you?? Being rude to the ladies on here…tsk, tsk, it’s not right, no it’s not!! AND I’ll have you know Dear Rooster Sir…this AHEM Ol’ Hen isn’t as old as you’re thinkin’!! And I don’t mind sayin’ a mite purtier than any Ol’ Hen! ;p
            And I get what you’re saying about Nino…he does confuse me, I’ll admit…but if Daisy or anyone else wants to converse with him, it IS still a free country, for the time being,and we should respect their rights, even if we disagree, don’t YOU agree??

            • I still open door for ladies of any age or color. Why, because I WANT TO and thats the way I was raised. You can converse with this POS Nino-whateverhisnameis@the-
              moment.This girl/guy is a government shill and is muy mal. Take that for what its worth. His psy-ops is good but not great as he like to lead you to believe. I really don’t care if you believe me or not. The fawning over him is just what he desires of those here. He brings really nothing to “The Table” and is one who strive to become the master of confusion and lies. JM2CW, adios!

            • In addition, I know that I’ve been well….. something of a bastard lately. Here’s why and I ain’t the only one here noticing this. (1) Daisey opened up a avenue for those to contact each other via facebook. EEEHHH! WRONG! Facebook is the Worst possible place to post anything. Coming on here and posting is bad enough, but FACEBOOK?
              RUN FROM FACEBOOK! (2) Even on here, never get too comfortable with ANYBODY! I don’t know whether you are a man, woman, or a two-year-old. I could go on here but my god, for the most part we’re all adults here, have some restraint. I’ll tell you ladies on here this, I can get pretty contankerous, and some times it does spill over and if I offended anyone, please forgive me. I use to enjoy coming on here and posting, but no longer as things to me have degraded rapidly. Best wishes to you Mac Slavo, Durango Kidd ( you are right in how it will go)keep at the double or single jack, and mucking it out as you pile it up. Anonymous, when I hear Southern Cross I’ll think of you. To the rest, Adieu.

      59. I agree about the problems with NDAA. HOWEVER, if I’m in DC, trying to get on the Metro to get home, and 200 protestors intefere with MY rights, then we’ve go a problem. There are mny ways to go about expressing your dissatisfaction with the way this country is headed – but infringing on other people’s rights is 1) wrong, and 2) doesn’t win more people to your position, which is what you need to implement change, and 3) we must exhaust all options prior to rioting in the streets, and we haven’t done that yet – that will come in November.

      60. the general philosophy of “for the greater good” has been increasingly infused(by force of law) into our culture… be very careful how you respond to my statement… think about it: the “(UN)Patriot Act” was enacted “for the greater good” and now we have tsa “touchandgrabiphiles” in position of UNConstitutional authority… we’re often victims of it without really realizing it…

        all just more reason to keep your powder dry and close

      61. Hey Ben Dover (hey bend over) and take up the ass prick. Guys like you I kick shit out of for fun.

        • Take a hike, PERV.

          • Now THAT’S more like it!!!Attack the pervs..NOT the ladies!! 😀

      62. USATODAY.com – Quick Question. If you haven’t already heard of this,they are taking a poll on whether the second amendment gives you the right to bear arms. I hope you vote and pass it along.

      63. Hope is slowly fading. That is when people will begin to act out, when there is no hope left. No hope for a better life, no hope for freedom, no hope for a job, no hope for safety, no hope for food, no hope that those in charge will stop selling their fellow man out, no hope things will get better, no hope for a better future….no hope. Only the individual knows when there hope is gone. Slowly each day a more and more people are out of hope.

        • That’s awful.

          Until you’re dead or you just quit trying, there’s always hope.

          • Don’t forget the change, Daisy…isn’t that what the last moron promised? How’s that hope working out for you now? I’m still hoping it will change soon, if not I pray the He – the Hope of Glory – will return, and I say please hurry!

            …#10 cans — crisp $10 bills …



            • The change is what WE have to create.

              If we wait for someone else to make changes for us, then we get what we’re given, for the good or the bad.

            • MUSHROOM… Please explain un detail…”…#10 cans — crisp $10 bills …” thanks

            • Mushroom is collecting $10 bills, so he can wether the coming toilet paper shortage.

          • “What more do I have to lose?” Isn’t that what you said prev on a reply?

            • @daze-eez. Another feel-good bobbleheaded comment. Keep em coming. Canada must be proud!

        • Damn it the kryptonite has already been used. It is a fight to the death then from here on out. I mean my future was heavily tied to the housing market and now its just f-d. College, did two years and frankly unless you are an engineer or something, doctor, etc….really just waste of money; don’t have the money and won’t borrow it either as there are no guarantees anymore since 80% of the population is in college; feel that that is a bad idea altogether. Debt with compound interest that won’t stay at fixed payment level. Basically variable payment loan. One month its 1200 in half a year its 1500, I’ve heard the stories about it. Just bad very bad at this point. When folks get tired of working at Mcdonalds and wal-mart they are gonna go ape shit.

          • ~Superman~

            If everyone like you had taken just one year of college level “inorganic chemistry”, we’d possess the building blocks to destroy the NWO apparatus in this country

            • Luckily, Freenet has express courses! j/k The NORMAL Internet is full of information like that on pretty much any subject you like and you can probably learn it a lot faster than in college where they’re trying to pad their hours. The problem is getting the equipment and chemicals to learn about other chemicals. 🙁 Just be careful to avoid low-quality information by getting it from a reliable source.

      64. The idiots or calculaing twits of the nwo keep pushing for a martial law moment from goading is to fight. We keep biding time and informing more people of what’s going on and our numbers keep growing.
        There are 545 people who are causing the problem and many more of us than them 90 million or so. The game is up for them so they are cracking down like so many tyrants losing control throughout history.
        It never ends pretty so keep your family close, pray and prep.

      65. Obama is a dictator wanna be and will be defeated in the end. One of the biggest fools to ever invade the white house,morons all over the country who voted for this fool should neuter themselves as not to contaminate the gene pool anymore. I always say you don’t have a right to take something from someone else simply because you exist,Obama thinks you owe everybody they deem worthy by taxes and fees while most pay nothing and just consume until were all screwed.This won’t last too much longer and I look forward to the fight that’s coming.

      66. @NinaO

        A friend is trying to reach you via me.
        Forwarded from dl acct






        • Say it again! we let this happen…Change is the only guarantee you have on this world.

          • ONCE we ALL face that fact.. change will happen.. until then its all speculation and myth..nothing more..

        • The many faces of Eve.

        • Dude…fix your Caps Lock key…

      68. The domestic part of “all enemies, foreign and domestic” requires clarification and definition, but not by any court or presently existing government or corporate body. A newly created independent third party entity charged with rooting out corruption perhaps. Much has been debated about the intent of the Founding Fathers when they penned this. Your government think has evolved to assume, at their whim, that domestic enemies only include their own citizens and certainly not any percieved high jacked government. Prove you are not corrupted. I feel that the degree of paranoia does not match the real threat enough to usurp the Constitution and Bill of Rights. They are there to lean on when needed. There be wisdom. It is needed now. The present course may indeed be initiated to push a dubious hidden agenda, maybe not. An audit directed to expose corruption is required. I am not an American citizen and if I am prosecuted for expressing these views as thought crimes, I am calling Ron Paul. Choose wisely indeed. The world knows there is Uncle Sam and then there is the American people, they were separated with the USAPATRIOT Act. Suckered by an acronym, what an epitaph for the greatest nation ever.

      69. The domestic part of “all enemies, foreign and domestic” requires clarification and definition. Much has been debated about the intent of the Founding Fathers when they penned this. The government definition has evolved to assume, at their whim, that domestic enemies only include their own citizens and certainly not any, ill or not, perceived corporate caused high jacking of government. I feel that the degree of paranoia does not match the real threat enough to usurp the Constitution and Bill of Rights. They are there to lean on when needed. There be wisdom. It is needed now especially with perpetual war being staged. If I am prosecuted for expressing these views as thought crimes, I am calling Ron Paul. Choose wisely indeed. The idea of thought crimes in a free society defines the extent of present freedoms. The attack on and neutering of these documents may indeed indicate a hidden agenda, maybe not. The true enemy is corruption at all levels. MF Global is a good place to start. How high does it go?

      70. Anybody hoarding twinkies/snow balls out there?

        • No–but during Christmas, I got lots and lots of hard candy.

          • You Hussie!

        • Hoestess has filed chapter 11. Yes, we have no twinkies. And Wonder bread….. It’s a wonder if we’ll see it again.

      71. I found this site a couple of months ago. I have found it to be helpful and informative. Thank you.

        This is my first comment. It is because of the NDAA that I am.

        It is my believe that this is the most terrifying piece of legislation ever enacted. There has never been a law on the books that has not been used. And people need to know that this will be used. Just a matter of time.

        I am doing all I can to inform people of this. Most of the folks I talk to do not even believe that this law exists. And when I show them proof, they say, oh well our government would not do this. It can not happen here in the land of the free.

        That attitude is what is really frightening here. I am afraid that this way of thinking proves it is to late to stop what is coming. People just do not want to believe it. Period.

        My own wife does not believe it, and I have been telling her for 30 years about the perils of our government.

        Ok, I’m done. Needed to vent somewhere. 🙂

        • Welcome ThePatriotic1. Vent anytime you want. That’s part of what makes Mac’s World so special!

        • ThePatriotic1,

          Let me be the 2nd to welcome you to the site. Like ol Smokin said feel free to vent here anytime..


        • At least we all got to vent, before we all get ventilated…

      72. Those who protested will have their names added somewhere.

        Before 1950, the government of South Korea got the names of everyone who had leftist tendencies, and gave them amnesty and full citizenship.

        When the Korean War broke out on 1950, the South Korean government, just before the North Koreans arrived, rounded up all the people in the roster and killed them. Some 100,000 people died that way.

        Of course those who did the killing are still living well and some of them are in North America, getting rich enough to send their offsprings to be educated in NA.

        • @Comenius – yep, so will those who have posted here…

          Josie Wales: You be Ten Bears?
          Ten Bears: I am Ten Bears.
          Josie Wales: I’m Josey Wales.
          Ten Bears: I have heard. You are the grey rider. You would not make peace with the Bluecoats. You may go in peace.
          Josie Wales: I reckon not. I got no place else to go.
          Ten Bears: Then you will die.
          Josie Wales: I came here to die with you. Or to live with you.

          …#10 cans — crisp $10 bills…



        • A gentleman I met camping defected from Armenia. He was a border guard that waited months for the right opportunity which was his co worker getting ill and did not making it to his post. This guy just dropped his rifle and walked across the border. He said it was important to never let them know what your thinking. He never questioned anything the government or superiors did or said. Because of that he was sufficiently trusted to be a border guard and therefore had the opportunity to flee.

      73. look everybody rich99 aka ben dover has a pic up above check her out. See what she’s all about. Dudes don’t pant too hard!

      74. The problem is that the state robs the citizen via involuntary taxation and funds it’s law enforcement. Cut the money off and the officers will disappear.

        • “Involuntary taxation”. Half of “US” don’t pay it, and in fact get something for nothing out of the “involuntary taxation” system. That is 50% that will never give-a-sh*t! As for the “rest of us dupes”, past IRSS examples of “just-us” keep the majority paying the illicit protection money OUT OF FEAR.

          If/when WE can conjure up a plan to have the 50% that still participate in the “illicit income tax farce” unite and quit paying in unison, or at least a majority…now there is a plan with REAL POTENTIAL!

          Any actionable ideas?

      75. here is some costs for them to understand

        Get-Mo housing costs per prisoner awating “fair” trial..
        $800,000+ per person per year.

        NDAA will cost tonns more

        • which will cost them nothing, since they can print all the money in the universe.

        • Ahhh…but a .45 to the temple, priceless!

          …#10 cans — crisp $10 bills…



          • You make more sense than anyone here. Thanks.

          • Im all for it

      76. OLD NEWS the GIRL in the GREEN HAIR was RELEASED I have a video of HER ON MY facebook WALL talking about it.

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