Lessons In Urban Warfare: “People Will Die In Huge Numbers”

by | Sep 7, 2013 | Emergency Preparedness, Headline News, Selco | 466 comments

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    SHTFplan Editor’s Note: Our friend Selco at SHTF School is no stranger to the realities of war. Having spent a year in the middle of a conflict that indiscriminately took the lives of thousands of innocent men, women, and children in the Balkan War during the 1990′ he is able to share a first-hand account of what the world as you know it may look like should it all collapse. Most of us theorize how such events may play out, but none of us is really prepared for them. Living in relative peace and prosperity most of our lives, the majority of Americans would find it almost impossible to even imagine what you are about to see and read.

    As disturbing as the following video and commentary is, it is something you need to be familiar with now, so that you can prepare your mind, body and spirit for the absolute horrors that you will witness right before your very eyes should the worst happen. 

    The following is a necessary, yet brutal, commentary and imagery. It provides some key insights into what we may well face in the future. A destabilization of life as we have come to know it is no game, no laughing matter, and not something that should be taken lightly.

    As Selco so succinctly noted in a previous article, ” if I had to be an animal, I was an animal.” 

    It’s about survival. That’s it.

    (Pictured: Snipers take aim at civilians in Sarajevo during the Balkan War. Circa 1992)

    *The following video contains extremely graphic imagery*
    *Viewer discretion is advised*

    We are at an interesting point in time. It might be a point that changes human history if some of those who rule us (sorry to call it like that but that is the situation right now) play their game and it escalates. I’m happy to know most of you have already prepared the proper storage and skills to try your best when the storm hits. Let’s hope we don’t ever need anything from this.

    If you have time, stop eating (but maybe get drink) and spend half an hour watching the video below. It is just out since 4th of September 2013 but shows some older video footage of people fighting for their survival in Syria’s current conflict. It’s bloody and may be disturbing for some, so may be don’t eat. I speak a lot about how I moved through city and fought in my survival course and see many similarities. Too many, so I had to take some breaks looking at this. Anyway, I have comments about this video below.

    [Selco Note: “Be aware that this video is clearly pro rebel propaganda. I do not take sides and have this video here for the urban survival and fighting in it.”]

    3:33 and 11:29 You can expect whole kind of injuries, and being kid does not protect you at all. Both injuries looked horrible, but kid with the bloody head probably just lost part of his scalp, so it is good for him. Nature of fighting in crowded space is brutal. There is no discrimination with explosives and if opposing force thinks of you and your family and friends as nothing more than animal then everyone is target. Look for small parts of shrapnel, they can penetrate deep and go unnoticed.

    7:33 SHTF in your city is something like slow process of accepting the fact that everything around you is going to hell. I remember watching my city burning years ago, it looked like magic, big fires in city without electric lights, later I was looking how places that I knew for years disappeared from the face of the earth, and from my memory too. And some time later I learned too not to give a damn for places disappearing around me, because I learned that people disappeared (got killed) too, so it became my bigger goal to stay alive. If things get to this point, prepare to be in free fall with everything (and everyone) around you changing and turning ugly.

    11:55 Guy with the bad dreams did see only small part of his bad dreams. He is under the pressure, doing some hard job and his every moment is filled with tension. Later, years later bad dreams gonna haunt him, when he goes back to “normal life”. Actually he is gonna figure that there is no normal life for him anymore. Sorry man, world becomes different place.

    12:24 City moving during the fighting is some other moving then you use to. It means that you need to “draw” some other map. Move through the ruined buildings, holes in walls etc. Moving trough the normal ways is usually way to dangerous.

    13:48 “We have enough shown to the people. Do something .” I have been there, only this dude has opportunity to say this to someones camera. I was asking myself for days “is it possible that no one is seeing that people are getting killed, children are dying, and that people are starving.” Later I figured that mostly people do not care for that, because of many reasons, and I figured too that there are no sides, only people suffering, dying,fighting, surviving… I talk more about this after comments here.

    16:56 Guy throwing the “home made” bomb, usually made from the unexploded stuff, while his buddy is taking cover few meter behind opening without revealing himself. Basics of urban street combat. Shooting is done from small openings or with just your hands raising (with rifle) above some cover and spraying. Progress is made when civilians learn to fight. They speak about how warfare changed from spraying and random shooting to snipers and IED’s in this video.

    19:41 Does this guy look like he knows what he is doing? No, he is not so familiar with the weapon. SHTF also means lot of guys with weapons, and many of them do not know how to use them too, some of them seeing it for a first time probably. And shooting does not mean that you’re gonna hit something always, there is also other reasons for shooting, so it is good idea to have huge amount of ammunition. When you go out with group for first couple of times… stay away from them. Friendly fire is real and I saw people get taken down by friends and family or shooting themselves.

    26:41 That is the picture how most of the cities gonna look when SHTF, it shows some of the streets, and you can say that it is war there, and it is not gonna look like that in “my SHTF case”. But still you need to consider that in any disaster and survival scenario for whatever reason, with time and lack of the city services, violence and ruins because of fight for resources, it is pretty much similar. Consider this when you are taking some advice and plans for moving through the city during survival scenario. “Smart” advice like “usage of skateboard for moving trough the SHTF city” just does not make sense.

    I feel like I describe something that can not be described, but the video helps one to imagine. Imagine how things can go bad and grim and then add more to it.

    Another survival lesson that can be learned

    Do you see how long this conflict in Syria going on? People are getting killed, dying, starving, no proper medical care, no common services etc. Does that look somehow irregular to you in some way?

    I hope not. Look at the situation in Syria and yes there is some help coming from other countries but many people survive. That you are lone survivor 3 months after SHTF is another myth in the “survival scene”.

    People will die in huge numbers, but also it will be crowded with lots of bloody fights for resources. People have ability to adapt, so we all can eat food with worms, learn how to shoot and kill, live without showers etc. People will die yes, in many ways, but not as fast and not as easy as many may imagine.

    It is gonna be fight for survival and everyone is invited.

    Who will go first?

    Not necessarily the weakest ones in terms of strength. Expect to see the first casualties among the people who are the most dependent on society and have very poor ability to adapt.

    So while a 70 year-old man surely looks like guy who is gonna die among the first ones, when you compare him to the young athletic looking teacher (or whatever), in reality that old guy might be able to adapt faster, because he comes from poor background and grew up in sort of the same survival scenario. That athletic looking dude may be lost because his strong faith in society and good human nature.

    International intervention or not?

    Personally I do not know enough about the situation on ground and the media reports are very different, so I can not say if helping rebels is good or not. If you are there and see this and experience it you want to help them, you can be sure about that. If you only see this from the distance it is different. Best thing really would be if everyone goes home, stops fighting and Assad leaves.

    Not gonna happen.

    Maybe now is not the time for US or international troops to get involved in this, but leaving mad dictators like Assad kill people? I think this is a situation where every way is wrong. Now it is just about finding which is not too wrong. No need for world war 3, no need for atrocities on civilians.

    This is what I have to say about this. Share your thoughts and opinions on scenes in video and situation in Syria in comments.

    You can follow Selco’s story at SHTF School and learn how he survived one year in hell. 


    More Excellent Reading From Selco:

    If I Had to Be an Animal, I Was an Animal. It Was About Survival

    A Survival Q & A: Living Through SHTF In the Middle of A War Zone

    Advice From A Collapse Survivor: “RUN!” From Major Cities

    The Reality of Combat: “Everything That You Have Prepared and Stored for SHTF Will Be Pushed to the Limit”


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      1. We need to clean up our own backyard first, before worrying about others…
        Hell, they are all cousins anyhow.

        • Not to say this over and over again, but major cities are death traps for this reason, but also because they harbor disease. Germs will kill people faster than almost anything. You can fight the bad guys and get pretty good at it. Bacteria and viruses are something that you can’t fight, you can control it to a degree, but fighting germs is something entirely different than someone coming at you. Germs are stealthy and appear when you least expect it. Best course of action is to first, forget about urban warfare and get out of the city if you can as quickly as possible.

          Small time America is just different, you could apply some of this really good advice above, but it just is not the city. Neighbors for one thing are very likely not going to be competing for the scarce resources that a city will become. People in small places are much less blood thirsty. Cities are coffin enclaves that cannot self support themselves, and these above scenarioes will play out in city after city as 10000-100000 people per square mile fight over the scraps left over when the city loses its lifeline. Towns are usually spread out and have food in the countryside. The sad answer is DON’T get caught dead in a big city when this happens.

          • The cities are a magnet for disaster.
            I’ll take my chances in the wilderness
            where I call home and us country boys
            will survive.

            • I wonder if a one-liner can make it through “moderation.”

              • John: You do know to put your e-mail address in where it says maill not required don’t you? I had the same problem until Mac told me to do that. Your e-mail address will never show up on your remarks.

                • Sorry, O/T again, as usual. I am prepping as hard and fast as I can, and there is so much to learn! I am trying to put together a small solar power system. I think I have the basics figured out. Any suggestions for where to get the supplies? I have garnered a wealth of info from this site, and will never be able to repay all I have learned, but I do appreciate all the sharing. Thanks all!

                  • Harbor Freight is a popular place to get 45 watt units because they often have coupons in the back of Reader’s Digest and other magazines that bring the price down to around $145 and that includes a crappy charge controller and a couple LED lamps. Nevertheless, you can get a better price per watt on Amazon.com.

                    Ebay is a good place to get a good but cheap charge controller.

                    Sam’s Club is a good place to get 6 volt golf cart batteries because there is not shipping cost and they get really good reviews from the around-the-world sailors who use them in their own 12 volt electrical systems.

                    I got my 12 volt water pump from adventurerv.net. It has a built in pressure switch so only kicks on when you turn the faucet. It pumps water from a plastic tank I got from tank-depot.com.

                    Go to Youtube and search for the SolarCabin channel ran by a guy named Lamar. He has a great video on his small 12 volt solar system like I described above.

                  • Harbor Freight is very over priced for solar. I speak from the experience of living full time on solar power, no grid power.

                    This web site tracks the price of solar panels. Right now you can get a 250 watt solar panels for $0.78 a watt. I paid $5.00 a watt for my original panels. Buy solar now while the market is flooded with inexpensive panels.


                  • Thanks PP! I have looked heavily at that kit on harbor freight, it is only $159.99 right now without discounts. Not too shabby of a deal.

                    From my own research here is what I have come up with:

                    One of these:

                    One of these:

                    One of these:

                    and one of these:

                    $337 total + free shipping.

                    I am a newbie and this will be my first set-up. I really don’t know what I am doing. Does it look like it will work all together? And seem like a decent start, with room to expand?

                    I am just trying to power a few things for only a couple of hours at a time. Maybe a laptop with references stored on it, a AA/AAA battery charger, a light here and there and a few small appliances occasionally.

                    Thanks for all input!

                  • To be governed is to be watched over, inspected, spied on, directed, legislated at, regulated, docketed, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, assessed, weighed, censored, ordered about, by men who have neither the right, nor the knowledge, nor the virtue. … To be governed is to be at every operation, at every transaction, noted, registered, enrolled, taxed, stamped, measured, numbered, assessed, licensed, authorized, admonished, forbidden, reformed, corrected, punished. It is, under the pretext of public utility, and in the name of the general interest, to be placed under contribution, trained, ransomed, exploited, monopolized, extorted, squeezed, mystified, robbed; then, at the slightest resistance, the first word of complaint, to be repressed, fined, despised, harassed, tracked, abused, clubbed, disarmed, choked, imprisoned, judged, condemned, shot, deported, sacrificed, sold, betrayed; and, to crown all, mocked, ridiculed, outraged, dishonored. That is government; that is its justice; that is its morality.

                    ~ Pierre-Joseph Proudhon

                  • Do not buy from HF. Get Monocrystal panel, morningstar controller, and deep cycle/golf cart battery setup. Been the HF route and the stuff does not last. You can get it from Amazon and Home Depot.

                  • Thanks for input RL, Shootit and PP!
                    A couple more, probably dumb questions. How important is it to use the cabling and MC4 connectors they sell? Could I not just use jumper cables with clamps cut-off and cut to length I need?
                    Also is it typical to mount the control charger near the panel? or near the battery? I am attempting to make a somewhat portable system. After I get it set up and tested, the parts will go into a Faraday cage, does the panel itself also need to be protected from emp? Sorry for bringing so many questions here. I have searched as much as time will allow me, but I have yet to find a source for good, simple, generic info on this subject. If you know of one I’d love to check it out.
                    Thanks again!

                  • Solarpenny.com has a 100 watt panel with controller and cables for 199.00. That was my first one. the controller will handle 2 panels and works well. I purchased a 4000 watt inverter on ebay. need 2 100AH batteries per panel. free shipping from fed ex.

                  • The cheapest solar can be gotten from Sun Electronics out of Miami Fl….
                    Don’t allow the solar installers to rape you …. DIY and build the same system for about 1/3 the cost.
                    I will help others somewhat but I can’t do it all for you…

                  • Red Leader, That sounded too good to be true and when I clicked on the link I found out that it was. Not only do they charge for shippping, they refuse to disclose how much online and it appears their panels require proprietary connectors that are also not included in the price.

                    As I said previously Harbor Freight is popular, but not necessarily the cheapest per watt. Let’s compare apples to apples though. What can this company deliver to my home complete with connectors, a charge controller, and lights for under $160?

                  • MC4 connectors make it easy for multiple panel systems. No you do not need to use them. The closer your panel/controller/inverter/battery are to each other the smaller the wire you can use. Distance from Battery to Inverter should be as short as possible.

                  • This is a great site for info for newbies and solar power.
                    You’d probably be better off with a full sine wave inverter instead of the modified sine wave inverters. They cost a little more, but the output is very close to what the power company sells us.

                  • Try ebay there is a ton of cheap solar stuff there. Or for a more professional system try arizona wind and sun ( http://www.windsun.com ). Buy batteries locally (6 volt golf cart batteries). Most retailers will give you all the free advice you need.

                  • For a first shot buy some walkway lights. For 5-8 bucks each you can buy a few and have simple room light for no effort.

                  • If you are starting out in solar and have little to no experience with high current electronics, I recommend the HF 45 watt solar kit. Yes, it is not the best solar system out there, considering the price per watt, it stinks. (Although there are coupons to be had for $139.99 near Black Friday, Labor Day and some other random sales events). What it DOES provide is a Low Voltage, easy to use, complete system that includes the charge controller with multi-voltage output regulator in the kit.

                    Here are the Pros:
                    1. Generates around 17 volts open circuit – less likely to hurt or kill you, so this solar system offers a degree of safety over Higher voltage arrays, such as grid-tied solar systems which can be as high as 360 volts for residential applications.

                    2. Amorphous panels are more forgiving about operating in partial shade areas, and typically generate more voltage per square cm than poly or mono crystalline panels, but do not produce as much current.

                    3. The charge controller that comes with the kit is easy enough to hook up that an average 10-12 year old who plays with free-building toys like Legos will be able to deploy it after only being shown once or twice how.

                    4. because the panels are smaller than “standard” size, they are easy to store, transport and deploy by one person, even in fairly windy conditions. (I store mine in 2 hard polyethylene rifle cases with blankets between them for protection from scratches and breaking.

                    Some Cons:
                    1. Expensive per watt – more expensive than Amorphous panels should be!

                    2. Do not last long in the elements – about 7-8 years is all these lasted for me, and that was the old aluminum rimmed panels sold prior to August 2011.

                    3. The charge controller is not the most efficient design, and will not handle more than 100 watts max (Or 6x 15 watt panels in parallel)

                    4. Do not leave panels in winds above 25-30 MPH, the frame must be Ballasted with sand bags, concrete mounting blocks or at the very least staked down and tied down. These panels are not very well suited for high wind areas, and lack the interchangeable mounting system the larger “Home Solar” modules have.

                    The system I started out with to prove my concept was 2x Harbor Freight 45 watt kits, wired to one of the supplied controllers mounted inside a 28in Stanley fat Max Weather seal box with 2x 12V/35AH sealed Lead-Acid batteries wired in parallel for after-dark use and a 12V to 120V 750W cont./1500W max power inverter mounted next to the controller inside the toolbox. All but the toolbox bought from HF.

                    If you intend on using the power from this to run stuff at night or in heavily overcast days, a 12 volt car battery or 2 (Like 2 of the same size battery from a wrecking yard) is a great beginning system to get comfortable with before moving to more expensive, (And Heavy) golf cart batteries, and several hundred watts or more worth of panels in a permanently mounted array. Check the acid level often, and do not discharge regular car batteries more than 20% capacity, as they have very thin plates that erode quickly if subjected to Over-Discharge. This system is easily transported, cheaper than buying the larger, more complex systems, and fairly robust to tinker with, but for the best bang for buck, recommend 100watt solar modules from Panasonic or Siemens. They typically have 24-28 volt open circuit voltage, (36 cells per module) run 3-5 amps per panel, and can be had for 190-250 bucks for each module bought from vendors like Amazon.

                  • OUTLAW,make sure you have gas masks and radiation pills,THEIR GOING to spray SARIN GAS ON EVERYONE,study it ,so you understand what it does,it readly mixs with water so you need to FILTER ANYTHING YOU DRINK,any food exposed to sarin is ruined,don’t eat it,TAKE cover if you are being sprayed or you see any MIST in the air,almonds smell is poison gas,put on your mask,OBOOZO will use every trick in his bag to take america down………..

                • HMMMM……

                  What could possibly cause a red thumb on this post?

                  You must be red-thumbed because they see your name on the post….has nothing to do with content. This red thumb proves that theory.

                  • The post was to tell John how to get his comments past moderation.

                  • If you cut the Mc4 connectors off you will void the warranty! Mc4 connectors are cheap on ebay and easy to install, do it right man! I have 15 years experience in solar and did it professionally for a living. I am certified, trained, experienced in both on and off grid so I know what Im talking about. Also NEVER buy trojan batteries they are absolute SHIT! A good battery for the money is U.S. Battery, try the us2200 golf cart 6 volt for a starter system. I had my last set last 7 years! Ebay has cheap panels, do not get the harbor frieght garbage, get poly or monocrystalline. Also Magnasine inverters are shit too, of the 4 people that have them near me 3 have gone bad and one of those 3 went bad 3 freaking times! You will not see reviews on a dealers site because problems are directed to the manufacturer and the dealer has no clue how shitty some products are. I don’t know your budget but get the best you can afford you won’t regret it!

                • Outlaw, I love the MC4 connectors! They and the wire are rated for outdoors and waterproof as they have O rings. They are truely plug and play. There are bulkhead MC4 connectors to go into your combiner box. My first set of solar panels I used flexible conduit. What a pain! If you leave regular wires exposed, the rats and other critters will chew them.

                  As far as EMP effect on solar panels, I have read that the blocking diode in the panels will fry. The blocking diode prevents power from draining back from the batteries through the panels at night. If hit with EMP you could jump the diode with a wire and switch off the panels at night or store extra diodes.

                  The charge controller should be mounted near the battery bank. The mimimum size battery I would use is the L-16 size. You should get 8 years out of them. The T-105 golf cart batteites will get half that life.

                  Since we live full time with solar and wind, we bought 12, 2 volt 2450 amp Rolls batteries that have a 20 year plus life.

                  For freezers we have two 8 Cubic foot Sun Danzer freezers. At 70 degrees outside temp, the freezer only uses 400 watts a day which means that one, 100 watt panel would power one.

                  We have two Outback MX 80 charge controllers and 5,500 watts of solar. It is a large system but that is what makes the batteries last a long time. My wife was good to go on living off the grid as long as she could use her hair dryer after the crash(-:

                  Lastly we have two, Trace 4,000 watt sine wave inverters hooked together that sends 220 volts over to the house where it splits off to 110 volts. I sized the wire big enought that if one inverter failed, I could send 110 volts to the house with one inverter.

                  PP, the link I gave is for buying serious solar panels, over 200 watts. A 45 watt panel won’t do much and will cost well over twice the price per watt as a larger panels. Check out all the different sellers on the link. There may be one near you where you could pick up your panels and save on shipping.

                  Lastly, do not buy Chinese panels sold by a Chinese solar company. They will fail. It is OK to buy panels that are made in China for an American or European company. We purchased some 295 watt Canadian Solar panels made in China to Canadian Specs with Canadian guarantee. They are fine. We recently purchased four 305 watt Helios solar panels and they are my favorite. They are made in America by Americans with the most advanced robotics in the world. Best Guarantee too.

                  • What about someone like me who is only renting, but has storage room, and interested in “investing” in a pallet of solar panels to be installed in 4-5 years?
                    Good quality, high efficiency , longer life ,dependable panels only. What would you purchase?

                    Right now, not interested in the batteries…would like to get the Lithium Iron Phosphate kind if the price comes down, nor inverters etc.

                    Just storing the panels and maybe the connectors/diodes.

                  • Horeses’ass Look on craigslist for deals on pallets of panels. Also try http://www.pvdepot.com I see pallets of new poly panels on craigslist here for .58 cents a watt! or http://www.sun-elec.com Solar panels will be gold in the future in a shtf scenario. Keep in mind 12 volt panels cost a lot more than 24 volt but you can use with a 12 volt battery bank if you use a step down mppt charge controller. Midnite solar and outback make great controllers.

              • Thank you, Granny.

                When this happened before, Mac adjusted his ISP list and the problem went away—until recently.

                As for using my email…. hmmmm.

                • John: When you signed up for this post you gave SHTF your e-mail.

                  If you don’t trust that he wont give it out to anyone else why would you sign up?

                  • Joh Q Public: You Can use ANY fake Email address. As long as you Keep useing the Same fake email address it will work swell. Should only take a couple or so posts as such and then the moderator system will recognize you as Ok etc and what you post should been seen instantly after site reloads after you hit send button on post reply.

                    At least it works that way for my posts. The only time my posts get held up in moderation is when I include a live hyper-link. So to avoid being held up in moderation, I just write out a link like, www dot blahblahbla dot com or org etc…Then it too posts instantly. Hope this help you John.

                  • It is not Mac that concerns me, but the USA’s very own CheKa.

            • I see I am not the only once who noticed how many times this article references the word CITY. The best odds for survival are far enough away from cities that we will not be a political target, yet in close enough proximity to people that we can band together to defend ourselves against roving bands.

              As the author also indicated, don’t rely on the government to provide water, food, shelter, or security. The places where those who do congregate together and are essentially war zones already.

              • @YMWW

                What’s your solution?


                That’s a wonderful quote that applies to all who are oppressed but do you have an answer to when you scrap our constitutional republic?

                • @Wolf359

                  LOL… So you think we live in a “constitutional republic?” LOL.

                  One can argue the exact date the “Republic” died, but make no mistake: The United States is NOT a “constitutional republic,” not any more!!!

                  Only dumbed down, addled, flag waving fools still believe that tripe!

                  I have a solution for you Wolf.

                  Leave me, and others who think like me ALONE.

                  Could you abide that Wolf?

                  If you ran the “Government” Wolf, could/would you leave me to live my life without dictating to me how I should live my life?

                  I suspect not. Why? … Because you’re a Statist, and Statists love government. People like you are craven, and relish the opportunity to rule over others. You won’t do it yourself, and you wouldn’t think of coming to my house with a gun to tell me what to do, but you’ll VOTE for those who will! And that’s what makes you sick!

                  Two kinds of people Wolf… Those who want to be left alone, and people like you who won’t leave those alone!

                  You can’t see it… yet, but decentralization (Anarchy) is the solution to the madness of “The State.”

                  Throw off your programming Wolf, come to the light. If not for you, for your children.

                  • At last, you’re true colors are exposed!

                    Just as I expected, you are nothing but a self loathing,anti-american anarchist.

                    What’s the matter? You can insult and denigrate everyone else on here but can’t stand any honest and forthright questions directed to you?

                    This site is too good for you’re extremist views. Move along and leave us alone..

                    By the way, just as I stand ready to defend the CONSTITUTION against tyrants I stand fast in the face of people of you’re breed who hold the same disdain and contempt for the CONSTITUTION.

                  • YMWW, in your comment #2196588 you finally mentioned something where we have some common ground. That quote you gave has been the exact nature of governments around the world ever since the Roman Empire. The only exception was the very limited government we started out with in the American Revolution. In the 1850s, it was seized by a new group of statists called the Republican Party, then the Civil War took place, and afterward was when things started getting out of hand. This government has had no legitimate basis for any of its actions since the 1850s. The only hope I see for us is take it all down and start over from scratch. Unlimited corruption, taxation, regulation, etc. have brought us to where we are today. The neocons and libturds have ruined this once great land and we need to restore it. braveheart

                  • YMWW, in your comment #2196588 that quote you made is something I can agree with. that’s been the exact nature of manmade governments ever since the Roman Empire. the only exception was the very limited government this nation started out with. In the 1850s a new group of POS politicians called the Republican Party took over, we had the Civil War, then afterwards things started getting out of hand. Unlimited corruption, regulation, taxation, etc. have brought us to where we are today. Anarchy is definitely coming. the only hope I see for this country is take the current system down and start over from scratch, then we can have the kind of country God intended for us to have. I used to think you might be a troll. But you proved me wrong with that quote. I stand corrected. You’re OK. braveheart

                  • I’ve got news for you: Our country was hijacked by plutarch a long time ago; fact is, about the whole doggone world has.I was skeptical for a long time, but I’m a believer now. Alex Jones, Infowars.com? Illuminati? It’s real, folks. The Fed has been robbing us blind, I’m sure you know. Obummer? Pretty sure he’s a CIA asset, his mom, grandfather and grandmother too. Ford foundation and all. Everything that has happened to the US has been planned for years; These nutballs worship Lucifer. Hear of “The Resistance?” Mark Dice? “Skull & Bones”? All these societies are about the same. I am reeling at one I’m finding out…go look for yourself.

                  • Hey Wolf, do you know what anarchy really means? Do you know what freedom is? Let me help you… anarchy simply means the lack of rulers or masters. It does NOT mean chaos! Anarchy is the equivilent of freedom. The problem is that a country that has no morals cannot ever be free. The degree of a countries moralism is directly equivelent to how free that country is. As far as the constitution goes it does not legally apply to you because you have signed on to be a U.S. citizen under the U.S. corporation. Constitutional law or common law is completely different from corporate or maritime law. virtually all people in the U.S. are corporate citizens by contract ( drivers license, ssn, birth cert., voter registration, etc.). Learn the difference between legal and lawful. Statutory law is corporate law. The problem is if you assert your rights and get out of theyre system they will make your life miserable as it is extremely hard to live outside the system. When people can be responsible and moral then we can have freedom. When you stand back and see how degraded and disgusting this country has become, I don’t see freedom any time in the future. The psycopathic rulers behind the curtains are calling the shots and the dumbed down ignorant sheep are clueless and obedient. No politician can enforce any BS law, only the consent of the enforcers (military, police) make it so. May your chains rest lightly upon you. THE FEDERAL RESERVE, SPREADING DEBT AND DEATH SINCE 1913…

                • Hey Wolf359

                  I am still awaiting a response to a question I posed to you some time ago.

                  Maybe you forgot it…

                  Q: “Tell me why you think you live in a “free country?”


                  • We live in the most free society that has ever graced the earth. Our constitutional
                    republic has been lead astray. There is no doubt about that. I could go in detail till no end on my disgust for liberal big gov progressivism but even with that stain on america, america has still given more to the world than any other civilization and that is a fact and is due to our FREE society.

                    Since the founding of america some of the greatest achievements In human history have occurred. Is that coincidence? I think not.

                    The framers of our constitution enabled the individual while limiting the state. Something which had never been truly experienced with in government.

                    Can man govern himself or does man need to be dictated to?

                    Well since our founders left us a constitutional republic there has been massive strides in technology that enabled the meteoric rise in standards of living Which has lead to a massive population boom the world has never seen before.

                    The combination of free enterprise and a constitutional republican form of government have fostered and nurtured expotential gains in medicine, energy, communications and machinery to allow the once poor to pull themselves out of poverty (if they so desire) and make a better living for themselves and family. Tell me another system where an individual can empower themselves and change their status in society??

                    Has any other culture contributed any more than american culture to the progress of humanity as a whole?

                    Since americas inception the world has witnessed the steam engine, electricity, vaccines, flight, visiting the moon, the internet, automobiles, abundant food supplies, etc..

                    One cannot help but see the correlation btw these achievements and the freedom of the american way of life. To not see is ignorance or idiocy.

                    Can you tell me of all the other wonderous cultures and countries who have contributed more to the world?

                    Has china, russia or the tribal peoples of africa given humanity anything?

                    The answer is of course not.

                    So why has america?

                    You tell me??

              • I have known people from the EU and the most common statement they make is, this country is so vast.
                All the time there are comparisons made between this US and other countries like say Bosnia.
                It’s difficult to see the differences sometime. Hopefully I can make it a little easier.
                United States.. Population. 316,603,479
                Area…3,541,479 square miles
                That’s 89people per square mile

                Los Angeles ca.. Population…18,081,569
                Area… 33,954 square miles
                That’s… 532 people per square mile

                Bosnia… Population. 3,839,737
                Area…19,741 square miles
                That’s… 194 people per square mile

                West Virginia… Population…1,855,413
                Area…24,229 square miles
                That’s 76 people per square mile

                Basically, the entire country of Bosnia, is smaller than the city of Los Angeles.
                Smaller than the state of West Virginia.
                To conduct an operation in this country on the scale of the one that was conducted in Sarajevo, would be an impossibility.
                Those Bosnians were in a box and hoping to stay there. That looks like what the slaughter was. Staying in the city.
                I have yet to read a set of stats on how possible it would be to run an operation that big in the US.
                This I think is what pure evil would attempt to do in this senecio.
                Produce a hyper mutated avian or swine flu virus. It will have a high mortality rate because we haven’t been exposed and haven’t built any immunities to it. Like the Spanish flu that wiped out millions. Secretly apply it in a high density population and let it do its work.
                The down side to this lovely bug will be indiscriminate, it will kill all those that it infects, including but not limited to our politicians, leaders of all kinds world wide. All without pulling not one trigger.
                I have little doubt that evil on this magnitude exists in this world.
                According to Agenda 21, it wants to clear all rural and outlining suburbs and crowd the population into the cities, Hummm I wonder why?
                A year in a place like Sarajevo must have been an unimaginableI hell, I couldn’t even fathom the thought.
                To run an operation like that, here in the entire US with that level of violence unopposed is impossible. The math just won’t work.

                • Check that population stat on LA, change to 9,962,789

                • If the PTB can convince enough sheeple to keep taking their new vaccines they wont have to spray it on anyone.

                  Read Jon Rappaport’s articles at nomorefakenews on vaccines and the money making machine behind them. Think twice about lining up for some more of their poison. They will continue to come up with more names for the flu and other diseases to keep you afraid and standing in line.

                  Autism is a great example of that. The only real connection they have found is childhood vaccines.

                  • Oh Granny, only a domestic terrorist would assert such things!

                    So shut up!… sit down, and take your shot!

                    Don’t make me call DHS/Walmart to report you as a “threat to national security.”

                    Terrorist are EVERYWHERE Granny, and all “Amerikans” must be ever vigilant!


                • Hammerun: Imposible in USA? well one good example of “How” they could do so in usa.

                  In 1917-18 Russia: Total Land Mass was Three times the size of usa and total population was aprox, 150 Million.

                  Yet only slightly more than 2% of russias total population, were able to storm russia with a bloddy revolution. That 2 % were the Leaders and main Organizers. They got the Union workers and peasants to unite based on class warfare etc.

                  Within aprox 5 yrs time russia went from being russia, a Christian mainly white nation, to what became to be called the “Soveit USSR”.

                  It actually took Three trys, three seperate times, 1899-1905-then in 1918,for that aprox 2% or “slightly” more than 2% jewish leadership/organizers, with assistance from workers and peasants groups, to be able to not just create the Soviet Communist ussr, but to also be the Direct cause of the worlds worst ever Bloodbath in all recorded history. Total deaths by the jewish bolshevik leaders and thier underlings, added up to over 150 to perhaps as high as over 200 Million dead. When you include the Other 15 or so smaller eastern european countries the kommie bolsheviks overtook. And they did so as fast as Lightning flashes across the night sky.

                  Small town after village after city and it kept going untill almost 1/2 of the orig folks were dead.

                  So if one considers back in 1918, they were no wheres as sophisticated as todays usa govnt, which ironicly, is also now run by the very same folks. Or should I say, the decendants today of That 1918 era of russian jewish bolshevik kommies, are running america today.

                  And while usa folks are probobly better armed today, back in russia and those other smaller nations they too had arms of many types. Handguns-Rifles-Shotguns and likly had WWI type Military rifles since WWI was going on all around those nations at same time frame.

                  USA is 1/3rd size of russia with twice as many people today. Yet many situations are very similar. Especially the same folks,same 2% that ran russia, that run and control litterally every facet of, society-culture-finances/banks-MSM in All/Every format-US Fed govnt and every ABC-agency within fed govnt-much of State govnt-with litterally Every large-most medium-cities run and controlled By their highly trained pals and accomplices heading every such city-govnt today.(BRA-black run american inner citys etc and also kommie trained).

                  And if one compares russias union workers komies and peasants folk, to todays usa ghetto blacks, avg 95+% lib dem Kommie, with also union workers mainly dem lib kommie trained too.

                  It sounds like an Exact same recipe for the exact same bolshevik led kommie overthrow in america as occured in russia 1918. And with twice as many people in usa dwelling in 1/3rd the land mass as russia had, that alone may be an advantage for the evil kommies that evens odds better for Them, when you account for we have more weapons in hands of citizenery, but thats about our only good point. There are definatly way more similarities with todays usa to 1918 russia than there are differences.

                  So basically I do not see such impossible odds as you seem to.

                  • @Them Guys;
                    Thanks for the history lesson. I’ll be the first to admit I know very little of Russia in that period. My interest started from 1928 forward, Hitlers early days. In about 1967, I read an unmolested version of Mein Kampf cover to cover. While most people will find the read appalling, I found its insight into,the inner methods and workings of just how someone like Hitler in his youth and his rise to power. Also insight as to the climate that must be in place for a dictator like Hitler to be risen into power.
                    I wholeheartedly agree with you that the conditions exist today, ripe for the identically same type of dictator to rise out of the murk. Hitler speaks of actively recruiting tradesmen and union workers with families. He didn’t have much to do with minorities, he came to a habit/policy of once they had served their purpose, to have them disposed of.
                    A couple of years ago I read an article by Igor Panarin, describing in the article in part how underlings would be first used as backers and promoters of the agenda (thinking they would be in the inner circle with all of the perks if they did so) would be utilized to the fullest and then be summarily executed or disposed of in some manner. Stating, this is how a brutal takeover regime works.
                    I think all agree that sees, blacks, whites, Hispanics, the uneducated, the unemployed, the weak, the lazy, anybody that is on the dole, is subject to utilization and abuses by the current administration. Bought and paid for, classic Clowered and Piven. They have a big hook in their backs and they have them deep.
                    Whether what we are discussing is possible or not, the bottom line here is none of it, not so much as a scintilla of it is going to be pleasant if anything like the past comes to pass. I hope we can learn from the past, as in Russia’s, Germany’s, Cambodia, Uganda, shit how on long can I make this list.
                    I don’t know but I’ll bet there have been scenarios theorized as how to control the US population. Ether by passification or force. I’ll stand by my analysis, as uniformed as it is about a viral attack. It’s simplistic, effective, and an absolutely predictable outcome.
                    I believe the crude and despicable fact is, in the end if it gets that far, there will be a willingness on the part of the PTB and those that we cant see behind them to finalize a solution for a quantity, a large quantity of population disposition.
                    This to the perpetrators will be a reset button. Freeing up massive assets, both public and private, and relieving them of massive entitlements and unfunded liabilities.
                    Me personally, I want to get right with God and when it happens, look it in the face and know the other side is there.

                  • You’re slipping. You didnt yell ‘ITS DA JEWS’ until the 4th paragraph.

                • I remember when this country only had one hundred fifty million or less. I liked it much better then. I can hardly wait until our immigration policies push us over the half billion mark. India anyone?

                  • Hammerun: Great reply. I also agree that some form bio disease etc is very likly a scenario as it today would work way better and faster and also easier on the part of tptb sides to do so.

                    I think just maybe some of all these vacines just may be part-A, of a Two part bio weapon. Then once enough folks are injected with that part-a which on its own is harmless, but if they also have a Part-B, waiting in the wings to be employed, perhaps Sprayed overhead like Chem-Trails, it could very well be the final solution plan.

                    And if such was done, not one in each million folks would be wise to how it was acomplished.

                    We know not as yet what their exact final plans are other than They Hate Us and wish badly to exterminate us.

                    There is a verse in their Talmud books, that basically says “Kill even the BEST of the Gentile Goyim”

                    I am only guessing here, but from all else I have learned of how those folks think and what they believe concernibg Them vs Us “gentiles goyim” I am fairly confident that what is really meant by “Best of gentile Goyims” very likly means…White Folk.

                    My main reason to think it means white folks, is that Many other verses of talmud speaks of the races of peoples and the many differences etc. Their beliefs center around, They are at the Top of Race and all society etc. And their talmud verses teach that the African black race is at the Lowest rung and that they are meere animal/humans that God made able to Speak in languages so to better serve talmudic jewish folks as their Slaves.

                    They think that way of ALL gentiles races. But they really think ill and lowly of african blacks especially.

                    So to me logic dictates that if african blacks is who They consider the lowest race, and after learning from Past history, as well as my life of seeing events unfold for 60 yrs now, I assume the main reason it seems Whites are so under attack by so many “death bt thousand cuts” methods, is because it is White folks that are who’s spoken of in that verse “Kill even the Best of the gentile Goyim”

                    However I also think no matter how swell they did in screwing Other nations like Russia and european nations in the past, that just maybe This time around those of the evil persuasions and lusting for power over All others etc, have perhaps Miscalculated a bit when chooseing Americans as their Next Target rich nation.

                    America just may go down in history as the Nation where The Bolshevik Kommies have bitten off way more than even They can, jew. Time shall tell…Tic Toc

                • This may Answer why America is so Great, and So Blessed!

                  The Orig. Promices God made to Abraham, called the “Abrahamic Covenant” of wealth,Lands, Resources, Great Militaries etc etc etc. Were Three times in the bible spoken of to have been Postponed as a Punishment to the tribes of israel. Each punishment time frame God Added longer numbers of Years they must Wait to finally recieve those Blessings. The last final time frame God witheld all the promiced Abrahamic-Blessings, Lasted for 2520-yrs!….Read the info below decide for yourselves Why America has been So Blessed By God. Because That is the Main reason we were and still Are all what Wolf 395 has so well defined in His Post. It’s All due to God’s Promiced Blessings first promiced to Abraham!

                  Going back to God’s warning of the seven times punishment to be meted out to Israel if she persisted inthe sinful ways, it is logical to assume that the starting date of that punishment period would start fromthe date of the removal of Israel from her homeland in Palestine.A study of the dates when the various tribes were taken into captivity will show that they were not alltaken captive at one time. In fact, many years difference was recorded between their captivities. Thus,the punishment period of 2520 years would start and end at different times depending on the tribe of Israel. Now by adding 2520 years to the starting date of each of the tribes of Israel going into captivity,where such dates are available, one can establish the ending date of the punishment period. Not all theexact starting dates can be ascertained. However, in the cases where dates can be determined, we find

                  that by adding 2520 years to the starting date of a tribe’s captivity, one comes to the date of the founding
                  of an independent nation or kingdom.

                  The first Israel tribe to be conquered by the Assyrians was Manasseh, in 745 B.C. Exactly 2520 yearslater America became a nation on July 4. 1776. In the case of Ephraim we start with 721 B.C. whenSamaria, the capital of the northern Kingdom of Israel, fell to the Assyrians. Exactly 2520 years fromthat date. Great Britain became a Commonwealth (Jan. 1, 1881). The last tribe to go into captivity wasBenjamin. Remember Benjamin was “lent as a light unto Judah”. so that they would be light bearersbefore Judah for all times. And, as their captivity started later than any of the other tribes, we would expect it to end last,which has proved to be the case.

                  The great Scottish Pyramidologist and Bible Chronologist. Dr. Adam Rutherford. F.R. G. S. told theIcelandic nation many years ago that on a certain day and certain year they would become anindependent nation. They laughed at him and said it would be impossible since they were
                  under thecontrol of Denmark. Exactly 2520 years from the exile of Benjamin. Iceland became an independentnation. When invited by the Icelandic Parliament to
                  address them after their independence. Dr.Rutherford reminded them of his prediction, and many members of the Parliament acknowledged they were of Benjamin.

                  It is difficult to determine with certainty which Anglo-Saxon – Scandinavian – Lombard – Germanic -Celtic nation of today is basically from which particular Israel tribe. There has been much interminglingamong the tribes in their westward migrations. In God’s plan of the ages they progressively became”many nations” in Europe and a “company of nations” (the Commonwealth of Great Britain) withcolonies and daughter nations. Today, certain European and Scandinavian nations appear to possesscertain characteristics of the individual tribes of Israel which may well indicate the people of thosenations are predominately of that particular tribe (i.e., Denmark – Dan; Holland – Zebulun; Germany (in part)
                  – Judah). Great Britain, although it can be identified with Ephraim. has a large infusion of Judah aswell as other tribes.

                  America, possessing the “birthright marks” of Joseph, can only be identified asmodern Manassah (the thirteenth tribe). However, it is today, peopled by a gathering of all the othertribes of Israel. This is in fulfillment of the prophesy of Jeremiah. “In those days the house of Judah(tribes of the southern Kingdom) shall walk with the house of Israel (tribes of the northern Kingdom),and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given for an inheritance (appointed land II Sam.7:10)unto your fathers (Jer.3:18)

                  Ezekiel also prophesies the joining of Judah and Israel into one nation, “thus saith the Lord God:Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel hisfellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and theyshall be one in mine hand… Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whitherthey be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land: And I will makethem one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king (head) shall be king to them all:and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:”
                  (Ezek. 37:19-22).

                  END of Part I, read Part II in Next posting…

                  • Part II, Continues…

                    Josephus records that the portion of the nation of Judah carried into Babylon captivity by King Nebuchadnezzar was a million and a half (Neh. Chapter 7). Seventy years later, when Judah was allowed to return to their homeland, although still in subject, only some forty -two thousand (Neh. 7:66)went back into Jerusalem, rebuilt the temple and set up the nation, later to be called the nation of the Jews. While in Babylon, many of the forty-two thousand intermarried with Babylonians, adopted the
                    Babylonian financial, political and ecclesiastical systems.

                    Josephus further reports that many non-Israelites joined themselves to the returning Judahites. Later,Christ identified these people, also called Jews, as not of Galilee, (John 7: 1 – 13) not of Abraham or of God,(John 8:39-47)and Not His sheep (John 10:26-30).

                    These Jews themselves testified to not being
                    a part of Israel by their answer to Christ’s words, “the truth shall make you free,” that they “were never in bondage to any man” (John 8: 33). All bible students know every tribe of Israel was in bondage in Egypt(Deut.5:6).

                    It was this mixed remnant of Judah, upon returning from the Babylon captivity in the time of Ezra and Nehemiah, that became known as the nation of the Jews; a name not applied to Judah prior to the
                    Babylonian captivity. Included in this nation were the Edomites (known to the Greeks as Idumeans) who
                    had occupied Jerusalem during the captivity period. King Herod the Great was an example of this as he was of Idumean (Edom) origin and thus not an Israelite. King Herod filled the ranks of the Sadducees with his own kind.
                    This explains why the Sadducees did not believe in resurrection and said there was no angel, nor Spirit (Acts 23: 8).

                    By the time of Christ, continued mixing with Amorites, Philistines. Canaanites. Babylonians and Hittites
                    resulted in a racially mixed nation.
                    From the Hittite infusion came the so-called ‘Jewish nose”(Hammonds World Atlas 1954 – page 266). Modern Jewry includes a further in-mixing with Mongol-Turkish people
                    (Khazar kingdom of Russia) who adopted Judaism during the
                    8th and 9th centuries A.D.

                    It is evident that among these mixed people in Israel at the time of Christ were literal descendants of Cain, for
                    Christ said of these “Jews”: “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do.
                    He was murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
                    He that is of God heareth God’s words: ye therefore hear
                    them not, because ye are not of God” (John 8: 44-47).

                    “But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My father which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my father’s hand. I and my Father are one”(John 10:26-30).

                    John, recording God’s word in Revelation, writes, “and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, (of Judah) and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” (Rev. 2: 9) and “Behold I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, (of Judah) and are not, but do lie; Behold. I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee” (Rev.3:9)

                    Christ clearly shows the separation of the people of Palestine into two classes in His answer to the question as to why He spoke in parables. “Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the
                    kingdom of heaven but to them it is not given” (Matt. 13: 11).

                    There are many so-called Jews today that are not descended from Abraham, that claim to be God’s people “Israel”, because some of them are of Judah. However, being of Judah does not necessarily mean
                    they are still His people, for some of Judah were cut off from the promises to Israel. In Jeremiah we find
                    God showing the prophet how He separated the bad figs (mixed seed) from the good figs of Judah who were to be Christian people for only of them could God say, “I will give them a heart; to know me that I am the Lord: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God: for they shall return unto me with their whole heart” (Jer. 24: 7).

                    Of the bad figs God says. “And I will deliver them to be removed into all the kingdoms of the earth for their hurt, to be a reproach and a proverb, a taunt, and a curse, in all places whither I shall drive them.”
                    (Jer. 24: 9)

                    Thus we find the word “Jew” being applied to more than one kind of people. This has caused confusion in our understanding of the Scriptures dealing with the Jew.To add to this confusion the translators of Scripture often mistranslated the word Jew from such words as “loudaios” (meaning from, or being of: as a country, Judean) and “loudaismos” (meaning Judaism, as accepting the Jewish faith and usages). Scripture refers to those that “became Jews for fear of the Jews”(Esther 8:17), and even Paul said “And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews” (I Cor. 9:20).

                    As it is important to understand that in Scriptures, the terms “Israel”, “Judah” and “Jew” are not synonymous, it is equally important to understand that the House of Israel is not synonymous with the House of Judah. The course of history is widely divergent for the peoples properly classified under each of these titles.

                    When God speaks in prophecy to the House of Israel or the House of Judah, He does not refer to the modern “Jewish” nation of Israel.

                    It is clearly shown that the House of Israel is separate from the House of Judah in the prophecy regarding the future names of each. Of the Jews (mixed Judah) it was prophecies “And ye shall leave(retain) your name (Israel) for a curse unto my chosen for the Lord God shall slay thee and call his servants by another name” (Isaiah 65: 15).

                    This has been fulfilled: The Jews have retained the name “Israel” for “a reproach and a proverb, a taunt and a curse” (Jer. 24: 9). while true Israel is no longer called by its old name. In fact Israel is blind to their identity. Paul wrote, “blindness in part is happened to Israel” and Isaiah wrote God’s word, “Who is blind, but my servant” (Isa. 42: 19) and “and thou shall be called by a new name, which the mouth of the Lord shall name” (Isaiah 62:2)

                    God explains what that name is, “If my people, which are called by my name shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face,and turn from their wicked ways; then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin. And will heal their land” (II Chron. 7:14).

                    His people are today called Christians; the nations of Israel are known as Christian Nations.

                    My Two Part Posting is from a 27 page PDF article. The article Begins with the Abrahamic Promices God made to Abraham….Then goes on to show a complete Timeline that begins with 10 northern tribed “Israel’s” Capture and Dispersions by Asyria in 721 BC…From there the timeline shows old Maps and Routes taken as the Orig. Ancient Israelites traveled, and Which Nations of eastern europe and weatern europe, and finally to England-Ireland-Scotland-And America where they finally ended up.

                    You will really have a great understanding on it all, and Why those today called “Jewish Peoples” are Mostly Not.

                    Do yourself a Favor, Read the entire 27 pages, view the Many Maps and travel Routes taken. Then You will Know the real Biblical Truths of who and where is TRUE Israel Today! Hint..Its NOT in that Rabid mid east state called israel, filled with mostly Khazars etc today!

                    I will Post the LINK in the NEXT reply post by Me so This post does not get held in Moderation due to the “link”.

                • Read up on the death rates the last time the banksters had a “spring clean”. The numbers of US deaths (especially those of children) during the last depression is shocking. Once you dig past the “official statistics” you’ll be horrified. I was.

                  The key difference between the official Soviet population figures & those of the West in the 1920’s & 30’s, was that the Soviets were honest about how many lives were snuffed out.

                  There are more ways to kill than urban warfare. In Detroit, Chicago, parts of Greece etc, times are already begin to test the soul. The US already has tent cities, in the UK the number of sofa surfers (hidden homeless families, staying with family and friends until their hosts get fed up) and food banks rise every day.

                  In the US last time round they chose hunger & poverty instead of the bullet. Many from the cities and the agricultural “dustbowl” alike died of starvation. Lack of access to medical care for easily treated ailments wiped out many more, especially the young and the vulnerable.

                  The stories of the Argentine farmers should be studied by those rural dwellers who assume that they are safe. During the currency collapse there, some true atrocities were committed by roving gangs upon rural families. Things got so bad, that many, desperate not to expose their children to the potential depravities practiced upon farmers fled to the cities for security.

                  Gubberments under duress can simply raise the property taxes on land to such a point that families are driven off the land they have farmed for generations. Even that remote haven can be vulnerable to this tool of the banksters.

                  Perfectly decent, God fearing mothers can turn into monsters if their children are starving before their eyes. I’d be lying if I said I myself could not resort to theft or even prostitution if I felt it was my only hope of preserving the life of my child.

                  No one knows their own limits until they are truly tested. For me, this is a major reason for both prepping & praying in these uncertain times. Know that where ever you are though, al l you are doing is lowering the odds, not eliminating them entirely as the elite are truly Satans minions, come to test us all.

                  Complacency is the biggest danger of all.

                • Read up on the death rates the last time the banksters had a “spring clean”. The numbers of US deaths (especially those of children) during the last depression is shocking. Once you dig past the “official statistics” you’ll be horrified. I was.

                  The key difference between the official Soviet population figures & those of the West in the 1920’s & 30’s, was that the Soviets were honest about how many lives were snuffed out.

                  There are more ways to kill than urban warfare. In Detroit, Chicago, parts of Greece etc, times are already begin to test the soul. The US already has tent cities, in the UK the number of sofa surfers (hidden homeless families, staying with family and friends until their hosts get fed up) and food banks rise every day.

                  In the US last time round they chose hunger & poverty instead of the bullet. Many from the cities and the agricultural “dustbowl” alike died of starvation. Lack of access to medical care for easily treated ailments wiped out many more, especially the young and the vulnerable.

                  The stories of the Argentine farmers should be studied by those rural dwellers who assume that they are safe. During the currency collapse there, some true atrocities were committed by roving gangs upon rural families. Things got so bad, that many, desperate not to expose their children to the potential depravities practiced upon farmers fled to the cities for security.

                  Gubberments under duress can simply raise the property taxes on land to such a point that families are driven off the land they have farmed for generations. Even that remote haven can be vulnerable to this tool of the banksters.

                  Perfectly decent, God fearing mothers can turn into monsters if their children are starving before their eyes. I’d be lying if I said I myself could not resort to theft or even prostitution if I felt it was my only hope of preserving the life of my child.

                  No one knows their own limits until they are truly tested. For me, this is a major reason for both prepping & praying in these uncertain times. Know that where ever you are though, al l you are doing is lowering the odds, not eliminating them entirely as the elite are truly Satans minions, come to test us all.

                  Complacency is the biggest danger of all.

              • I bought a Drone today that I can control from my phone computer. And even the dashboard control in my car and truck. So much fun.

                • Can I have it and can I use it?

                • HERE: Is that LINK to the above Two Part Posting on info of America and Israel etc etc…It is a 27 Page PDF, that is the Timeline of Routes traveled With Maps etc that shows where the LOST Ten Tribes went after 721 BC era. And How America IS that “NEW Land” God promiced He would Regather all 12 tribes into, as spoken of in Ezekials Two Sticks Prophecy etc. Educate Yourself so you do not remain Fooled by Flashoods taught by so many False Preachers and False Prophets so abundant Today.


          • The ability to adapt is not something you can prepare for. You will not know what is needed until it is needed. You can not can it, grow it, or store it.

            If you can’t think for yourself now, you will be in a world of shit then…

            • I’m posting this link to a Paul Craig Roberts article that pretty much says everything I’d like to say about this situation…


              • Everyone should read all of the Roberts writes. He usually tells it like it is, and that article is another example of that.

              • What a crock of shit. Why don’t you just go kill yourself to atone for your many sins real and imagined. The only thing defeating the West is the West. Cheer up in a hundred years the only place whites will be found will be in zoos. Will you feel better then?

          • What has taken years in the above example will take days in large cities. Without supply lines, there will be panic, fear, hunger, thirst. How long did Katrina take to devolve? Envision that on a vast scale, where there is no evacuation, no party is coming to save you, and seemingly no end to time but death. That is a full scale grid-down scenario and many other scenarios are similar. Cities will collapse in such a scenario; they will fail too quickly to devolve.

            Your best bet is to get out now. Beat the rush and establish somewhere sustainable in advance.

            • The “global dice” have been thrown. These “dice” are still airborne, but will land on our collective “crap table” very soon.

              There are literally too many variables in play to call how “those dice” will ultimately land.

              But I will offer this opinion: The overall outcome will “come up craps” on some level. Perhaps a simple, yet undeniable economic hit not seen in this country before.

              Worse case scenario…we are “privileged” (full sarcasm intended) with front row seats to the Greatest Show On Earth so far. Witness to the unthinkable actions of psychopaths, demons, and possibly what some might describe as ET’S…oh my.

              Today, I’m still breathing. A sign that I/YOU are not yet DONE!

              • “privileged” may seem like sarcasm, but in the real world of global war and geopolitics, it is most likely true.

                With the petro dollar reserve currency and the biggest black ops and military in the world there are no credible foes at this time.

                I believe that the international bankers/zionists have made their bed with the corporate government called the District of Columbia and will pull all available hydrocarbons to the core in Israel and DC at the expense of the rest of the world.

                We may despise the “managers” of the banking New World Order but if you live in the USA you will probably be one of the last to die.

                Pull a cork on a jug and relax. You can’t really do more than you have already done. The rest is up to the real players.

            • We truly are nine meals away from anarchy. Use the time after a trigger event to wisely better your position, but do not rely on it for any necessity.

              • PP, I agree 100%. I just ordered another two cases of Mountain House for 40% or more off at Emergency Essentials. Great company.

                • Red Leader,

                  Thanks for the info! I checked out some of the sales. There is also free shipping on orders of $150+ this month.

                  • KY Mom,
                    I’ve bought from E. E. and also from SafeCastle. Both stock Mountain House and the latter controls prices on their products sold by distributors. Usually when Mountain House allows a price drop, all their partners pass it along.
                    Of course, there are other long-term food vendors, like Future Essentials, Wise, etc. Surf for your best deals…

            • So true Sookie

              And dont forget Katrina hammered just a small part of the US, you still had the resources of the rest of the country to draw on – and just how did that work out for them that needed it most? Now imagine your (and mine too!) whole country in the same pile of Schumer. Smells dont it?


            • I cannot even imagine what Las Vegas, Phoenix, Tucson and other cities built in hostile environments will be like when the power and water are turned off in the Summer.

          • Howdy, BI, and I totally agree. I’ve lived in urban areas for most of my life and they are difficult to survive in even in the best of economic times. I only hope I can make it to the BOL in GA at the first sign of major trouble. If my truck is fried by an EMP, then I’ll have no other choice but to stick it out in the city. Without question, all of our cities will become Sarajevos. braveheart

            • Braveheart, would it be possible to store a spare computer for your truck in a Faraday Cage such as .50 cal ammo can so you could replace it if the original got fried?

              I bought a spare Computer and spare Fuel Solinoid Driver (FSD) for my 1998 Diesel Tahoe.

              I believe 1992 Dodge Cummins diesel is EMP proof. I replaced the electrical fuel shutoff with a manual shutoff.

              I am no vehicle mechanic so I would welcome input from those who are.

              • No expert on EMP, but I don’t see any reason not to store a few key parts away. Maybe pick up a small gun safe and put your Faraday ammo cans inside?

                A large working vehicle is going to be priceless if nothing else is working. Lots of tasks will need one.

              • Howdy, Red Leader, just got home a few minutes ago and read your question. To the best of my knowledge, you can do that provided that you have some kind of insulation like packing bubbles inside that can or some of those mylar bags, but you’ve got to have that extra level of protection. or you can do like I do. I bought a metal garbage can from Home Depot for $20 and have it insulated with packing bubbles for my electronic items that i’m preserving. whichever route you go, do not ground the container; that can zap the electronics you’re trying to protect. braveheart

              • @ Red Leader….I used to work as mechanic ,back in early 70’s ,when engines were a whole lot simpler. Then when I raised the hood and saw all them SMOG hoses running in all directions (like a den of snakes) I said ” I QUIT!”…but I do know if you had a distributor,with points and condenser, and a separate coil you could probably by-pass all that electronic crap!!…Hmmmm…that was four decades ago so I might have forgotten something!?? ……Good Luck ALL ….mm

                • mountain man 6-1:

                  I really liked what you said about these new vehicles, I’m 50 years old and, like the old stuff.

                  I remember well the trucks working with 24 volts (two batteries) and a lot of people who would get into beast took shock (even some died from simple ignorance).

                  I’m in the garage at home (always thinking of a pulse atomic or solar detonate everything is electronic) this baby here:

                  Yamaha Motorcycle 180cc year 1995 (two-stroke engine) always with a full tank in the garage, autonomy at least 200 km running at 7,500 revolutions, 80 Km / h.

                  She has “autolube” (a bomb that 2 stroke oil mixture directly after the vaporization of gasoline with carburetor). This oil is a separate reservoir and you only need to check every three times you fill the fuel tank.

                  Oh, she does not have electronic ignition is “Platinum”, let the battery (6 volt) always off.

                  My drive to leave a city that is.

              • Red Leader, you are correct in that your ’92 Dodge Cummins is EMP-proof. In the case of an EMP, your speedometer won’t work, and the voltage regulator which charges the trucks battery won’t work either(the voltage regulator is built-in to the vehicles PCM). The good news is you can wire in an external voltage regulator. There are plenty of Dodge Cummins forums to tell you step by step how to do it.

              • Hey all. Just a question: Are the pre 90’s ford diesel’s emp proof?

              • EMP requires a long antenna style inductor like a power line to develop a dangerous voltage. Items not attached to the grid should be fine. Any steel container should give extra protection just in case. Quit worrying. The rampaging mobs will probably kill you anyway.

            • @ braveheart. Keep a lookout for strange animal behavior since you are so close to the New Madrid. That 6 pointer on the Mid Atlantic Ridge area was the largest in 44 years. This is where the push of the North American plate is most affecting towards the New Madrid. When that fault goes, urban hell will be everywhere within 50-100 miles of the fault at least. It may not be the EMP that stops your truck, if New Madrid goes it may be that there are no passable roads and the bridges in the areas will likely be in the rivers.

              • My cows have been acting weird this week. Others have made the same comments.

                • as are the cows in our neighborhood…been very vocal all hours of day and night.

                  • Are you going to have some June calves or have they already been bred? That’s the only reasonable reason for a lot of mooing. Lets hope there won’t be the big one.

              • Howdy, BI. thanks for those tips. The first sign of strange animal behavior I see, I will let you know. I think I’d rather deal with EMP/CME than a stinking earthquake. If the New Madrid goes, then all bets are off for my region and I’ll be in deep do-do. braveheart

                • Braveheart. what year is your truck? or are you nervous about answering.

              • @ BI – didn’t see that 6 on mid-atlantic in the archives. was it a while back? and, as always, thanks for the updates!

                • @ kimintn. It was on September 4, and everytime there is movement of the North American plate at between 14 and 20 degrees north this is focused right on the New Madrid fault system. Back in 1969 there was a 6.6 here and the New Madrid did not break, but that was 44 years before more strain and stress had built up to present day levels. It has been 118 years since there has been a major earthquake on the New Madrid, Halloween day in 1895. Whether or not the section of the Mid Atlantic Ridge was active back then there is no record of it. No real way of detecting anything in the ocean back then.

                  This is a large earthquake and shows the North American plate moved and focused more tension on the New Madrid. There is a significant increase of chance of a decent size earthquake because of this. Nothing is imminent, but close attention to animal behavior is important here because back in 1811-1812, animals did detect those earthquakes coming before they occurred. Being forewarned about an earthquake and not being surprised as much when it happens can be the difference between living and dying.

                  I would say a 7 on this region of the Mid Atlantic Ridge and I would say look out it is coming with 75% or more certainty. A 6 is thankfully much less certain, but definitely shows there is an increased risk. Look for anything that has to do with the ground that is bizarre or weird. Insects and snakes are very tuned into anything that would disturb or destroy their habitat, strange reactions of these animals I would pay very close attention to, they know just as they knew back over 200 years ago.

              • Great description of the aftermath of a New Madrid quake in the book Enemies Foreign and Domestic by Mathew Bracken.

            • Braveheart, how about carrying a spare CPU for your truck in a .50 cal ammo can/Faraday cage.

              We have a spare CPU and spare FSD for our 1998 6.5 Diesel Tahoe stashed away in a ammo can wrapped in layers of heavy aluminum foil and insulated from the walls of the can.

              I believe that my 1992 Dodge Diesel is EMP proof as it has a mechanical fuel injector. I repleced the electric fuel shutoff with a manual shut off.

              Any thoughts from expert mechanics out there would be appreciated. I am not a mechanic by any stretch.

              • i am a mechanic by trade ,but a dinasuar mechanic ,as the automobiles got more hi-tech i started restoring vintage cars and building hot rods to stay in my comfort zone ,i dont know that much about the effects of an EMP ,but if it frie’s diodes then just a replacement computer would not surfise ,as most of the acc. have there own module’s with diode’s ,ie.the TPS (throtle position sensor) ,speedometer (which also controls your shifts)etc. im sure at least 6-10 others(including your alt. ,there is things you can do to get passed some of these sensors ,but if you own a vehicle with no dist. your screwed ,i have a old electronic by-pass box (dont think they even make them anymore) ,it completly by-passes your ign. system ,and provides a hot constant spark ,and if your car was throttle body or port injection ,you could set up a tank with a small gate valve and gravity feed the gas ,i have a 94 gmc but i also have a point dist. ,a intake manifold ,and a carb ,that i could put on it in a pinch ,but i wouldnt need to ,as my daily driver is a 40 ford pickup with a small block and no electonics ,i also have 2 original model A fords (1 trk 1 car) that will go even if the world stops ,like i said in the previous comment ,i would buy a cheap G.O.O.D. car
                that has little to no electronics ,if it had an HEI dist ,just get an old point type and throw under the seat ,keep it running ,but dont put it on the road ,treat it like its part of your preps ,BTW i think every one on the sight as i do ,beleive that hard times are coming this way ,so it wouldnt hurt to learn some basic automotive skills

                • got an old VW bug, easy and cheap to fix, cant kill it, and it looks like they day it was built, not to mention great on gas..we take it out on a grocery run about once a month to keep it limbered up,Im saving up for a Military 6×6 2.5 ton multifuel engine service truck, they say they are EMP proof, but not as good on fuel as the bug.

                  • nice…I’ve always dreamed of owning an Abrams M1…

                  • I have an old MG I bought about 6 years ago (the wife wanted it}. I put antique tags on it. Now I never have to buy tags and I never have to get it inspected. Insurance is dirt cheap.

                    Question about EMP. If I have this car connected to the grid with a trickle charger, will it fry the charger, explode the battery, or something else?

                • Some vehicles already have the ecm shielded. Not sure if a EMP would acually damage any car because there are so many varibles. There have been only a few actual test done. I have been asking Braveheart what year his truck is so I can research it for him but he doesnt reply.

                • Thanks lower40, I am partial to diesel engines because diesel fuel stores 10 times longer than gasoline. There are lots of non computerized diesels out there.

                  I would love to have a a fully restored Mercedes 300d. They are totally EMP proof.

                  As far as food storage goes, check out Walton Feed. They have many different items in #10 cans and super pails that no one else has. They have changed their name but a google search will pull them up.

                  • your welcome Red

                    i agree on the fuel storage ,but in the case of most of the average joe’s there probly going to have some late model tick looking front wheel drive POS ,in my case it only makes sense to stay with gas as i have a building full of parts ,thank you for the heads up on the food storage sight

              • Your 92 is good to go. If you have a 5 speed. But remember that doesn’t mean add on are safe radios led lights alarms.
                And on mine I can pour almost anything in the tank. With 271000 engine never been opened up.

            • buy yourself an old beat up chevy with a carb and a point dist. dont tag it or ins. it ,put some non ethanol gas in it ,crank it once a week ,drive it around the yard to keep the brakes from freezing ,when or if theres’ a EMP ,put what ever tag you got on it (if you think anyone even cares) then haul ass

              • Experiments indicate that even newer vehicles may be more resistant to EMP than earlier believed. If yours is the only vehicle moving, expect to be targeted by the “Thin Blue Line” gang.

                • The test 15 of the 17. Kept running or stared right back up. All ford 250 passed. Problem is newer ones clog up on all the stuff I can put in mine. And I do put lots is stuff in there. No refinement needed. Just mix a with b and get the right thickness.

              • How old is an old beat up chevy? 1992 or earlier?

                • 1987 went to throttle body injection on chevy pickups,but if you got yourself an old intake + carb(cheap for a chevy small block )a dist ,and a cheap electric fuel pump , you could go all the way up to 1997 when they changed to the vortec engine ,then you could by-pass your complete computerized fuel and ign.system ,you wouldnt need to install the parts untill and if you needed to ,one problem you would have is in late 1993 they went to a computerized 4L60E overdrive tranmission ,the overdrive wouldnt work and it probaly wouldnt shift good ,so unless it was a standard shift i wouldnt get anything newer then a early 1993 ,this can be checked to see if it has a detent cable (passing gear) on the throttle body ,if it does then your ok ,it isnt the computer model(this needs to be kept in mind for the diesel guys to if your running an automatic they used that same trans and the 4L80E but it was also computerized) ,having said all this im no authority on EMP’s im just saying what you could do if they caused problems ,if no one is for sure id rather error on the side of caution ,and have somthing that i knew would get me down the road instead of might ,all this has no bearing on me i dont plan to leave all my preps for somone else ,and then wind up dying on the road or in a strange place ,ill fight it out as long as i can ,and if push comes to shove ill turn south and walk into the everglades

          • There was quake in Alaska & somewhere else. It was on news in 2 minutes
            On u tube 9/7/13 And Chinese takeover of Smithfield ham? But I’m worried about Madrid
            & look forward to seeing ur posts. Thanks

            • we have had a couple down the chain this week that were 6 and above . there isnt a day goes by that we dont have several of them somewhere . its a big state . I would be more worried if we didnt get some for a while

          • BI,
            Have you seen the articles about the recent cases of Naegleri fowlerii also known as the brain eating amoeba. It isn’t a likely organism for bioweaponry but it is an interesting organism.

            The amoeba is very common, especially in the southeastern US. Most of the time it is harmless but at certain water temperatures it changes personality and it will invade a person by migrating unnoticed up the nose and into the brain.

            99% of the people infected die. That is because they only start to show symptoms when the infection has taken hold in the brain and by then, it is usually to late for treatment.

            In the last month or so, there are been three cases in children and two of them died. This is interesting because there have been less then 35 cases in the entire last fifteen years. Is it increasing in incidence or is it just that we’re doing better at getting it diagnosed? I have no clue.

            Incidentally, one recent death was from a person who used a Neti pot (nasal lavage) but didn’t use purified water.

            • @ Merree. I sure have seen this, and thankfully that little girl survived it. Something is wrong, it could be that nightmare from a bad horror movie has adapted to a higher tolerance of certain waters and pH levels. Could be the climate is changing to more favor this “lifeform” if that is what anyone can call it. Could just be more people are bathing in areas where this is dangerous. Just hope it is not adapting and then will stay alive in the municipal water supplies and start to enter the brain from the throat to nose to brain. That would be horrible beyond words.

              Something is causing it to become a lot more virulent. My guess is the warmer temperatures and possibly that these waters are being polluted with some chemical that is changing the composition of its cell structure. Pollution waters does change things to the ecological system of just about any body of water. I have always wondered about all the pharmaceutical toxins that are getting into the waterways all over the place from human wastes and just the raw medications getting dumped down the toilets by so many people. Bad situation in the SE US with this.

              • The climate and water conditions have become more favorable for the proliferation of this amoeba, and people are coming into more frequent contact with this water that is home to more of the species. It likes warmer water, and it likes nutrient-rich (polluted) water best.

                It doesn’t mean to eat human brains. It just eats as it moves along, trying to get back to the water it lived in before it got relocated to the human body.

              • BI, will water filters work to stop the amoeba? Or does water need to be boiled?

            • Merree
              i dont know if its the same thing but down here in SWFL several years ago a guy i knew used to have a buss. diving for golf balls on the courses ,he got some kind of amenba that lived in the fresh water when it was warm out,they say that it went in through his ears to his brain ,and it killed him ,he was a young healthy guy

          • Make a list of every single “convience” that you have in every day life. Those are the things that you will have to learn how to do with out or learn how to accomplish on your own.

            @BI is %100 correct on germs/infections. There is a reason why the govt has control over a very simple medicine. Anti-biotics. Learn about alternative medicines because those will still be available because they are natural to nature.

            Always the biggest things are water, food, shelter, and protection.

          • BI, that is why tptb have been trying to hurd people into cities. In the open/outside the cities/towns, gov’t forces will suffer bigger casualties.
            But in order to survive the shtf scenerio in cities, people need exscape routes or the ability to weather the storm.

          • Correct BI on the sanitation. Wasn’t a whole lot of cleanliness where that bread was being put together either. Lord knows infection was rampant at that hospital with all the dust in the air from the constant shelling. I do feel sorry the innocent/children. The noise of shells falling, the smell of blood and the grotesque scenes of the mutilated has to take a horrendous toll on a child. The thing though is that this seems to keep going on in the world of Islam on a constant basis. For a supposedly “religion of peace” they sure have a hell of a way of showing it. But getting to the crux of survival and what Selco was trying to bring out, cities are gonna be hard hit. They seem to be one big shithole magnet. I rather be out where I’m at now, shooting and scooting.

          • Ahhh. Don’t agree with you at all. Small town America these days is very dependent on the Feds. The typical small town receives the vast majority of their funding from the FEDs. Not from the local people. These groups of people have little regard for the local people and just concider them a resource. They do what ever they want and can get away with because they are not dependent on funding from the local people at all. In every small town there is a group of people who control this money and use it to their benefit. They are generally used to power from this and when SHTF they will use all power at their disposal to come after the preppers and take what they got. I guarantee you are on their list right now.

            • Joe,
              Could you elaborate please?

              • Just take a good look at your town/county budget. I guarantee you your town spends at least 4 times their total revenue from property tasxs and fees. Where do you think this money comes from? And who do you think that your government will support. You for your paultry 25% or the FEDS with their 75%? They will take your property if you don’t pay anyhow.
                Small towns in general aren’t subject to state audits. Just try to go to one and get info. see what happens. They are their to protect their selves. Not you
                I used to sell fire equipment to small towns. The corruption is rampant. It is like high school politics. Ever been to a HOA meeting? All the bikering and hate. This is your typical small town/ county government. You are either one of them by family ties or money or you are not. I would go to the public meetings where the public was invited then after words we would go to the local bar and talk about the real ajenda. Since 2007 or so this has been generally how to survive if things collapsed. Its rarely about helping the populace but rather about how they will survive as a government. They are mostly all centered on who’s assets to take and what to do with them. The assets are never theirs.

                • Joe
                  But in a shtf situation wouldn’t government funding stop, thereby eliminating their financial interests and servitude to the Fed?
                  Just a question, not an argument.
                  I have heard about smaller Towns being controlled more or less by a select couple of families.
                  And I am told that the fire department and police have a stranglehold on garland.
                  When you say that they discuss who’s assets to take, do you mean money, or property or possessions?
                  I am trying to wrap my head around this, so pardon my ignorance.
                  What do you suggest? How is this situation avoided?
                  Thank you for the response.

                  • When SHTF and they no longer receive their money from the state and fed, Where do you think they are going to get it? The state and Fed are still going to demand that the counties and cities meet their agreements in all the grants and loans they received.
                    Mayor bob is not going to lay off his PD. No way, no how.
                    His brother and inlaws who work for him aren’t going anywhere either. All the people who have the inside info on where the payoffs and excess grant money went who are now facing unemployment will want something too. Lets not forget the schools. The average student in a small town/county is in the $15,000 range. Count your students then take a good look at what your county brings in for property taxes.
                    I know in my county the annual total recievables is in the $7 million range. Just the school district costs them $30 million + per year.
                    Assets are property and possesions. That $500,000 house you have is worthless. But that farmland is not. For example. a guy moved up from California and bought $500 head of cattle for breeding. They will take his cows. Most probably all of them. Of course it is to feed the children but mainly to feed the old people who all of a sudden don’t have their SSI or SSD to collect anymore. You will be shocked to find out just how many of these old folks are living in your small town. I myself am one of these old folks. But I work and earn my way. always have and always will.
                    I have a friend who moved to a small town in Oklahoma from New Jersey. He has always been a prepper. He has a whole garage full of non perishables. He didn’t think that anyone knew what he had. A few months ago someone shoved a copy of a email from the local Emergency management supervisor to a accountant asking to add this list of goods to the master list. Listed was most of the stuff in his garage.
                    I don’t have the foggiest Idea on how to avoid the situation. If you live in a small town and have anything that produces, you are screwed. They will take it away from you after a nice legal vote.

          • Be informed that was very well stated. after driving a otr truck for 25+ yrs, it dawned on me that no matter the trouble or the hard work i sure as hell didnt want to live in the city, so i bought this ranch. got it paid for. plus the trouble will start in the city, why the hell do you think DHS bought so much ammo? maybe it was blind faith or maybe it was fate either way its where im at! so its time to twist up a big fattie an watch the wildlife have at the cut fields. maybe have a strawberry wheat beer ! ps antibiotic salve works on most everything so pick some up at walmart. your dr should prescribe some antibiotics just to stash if ya think of it wildman out

          • Okay, so, stop the westbound Blue Staters at the Appalachians and, going South, at the Rappahanock River? In other words, DC and north are kept DC and north? Who is going to do this?

            Worse yet, who is going to keep the Blue Staters west of the Sierra Nevadas? And the hordes from flowing north across the Rio Grande?

            The STATE will promote the movements–will FORCE the movements. It will be about 250M people flowing toward the heartland with the U.S. police state and military leading the way.

            Resistance if futile?

        • 5987: POLICE GANGS accross the NATION have been training for RIOTS BY PARENTS AT THEIR SCHOOLS,now the first thing you might want to ask is WHY?,whats going to bring parents to the schools ,WHO are pissed off?…RIOTS? the LORD says their going to kiddnap the children and call the parents AND TELL THEM.”WE HAVE YOUR CHILDREN”..and if you want them back ,bring your guns and ammo and we’ll trade,..BUT THE LORD says they have no intention of giving back the children,and WILL ARREST the parents and take them to a fema death camp and KILL THEM……..OBAMA HAS SOLD ALL THE CHILDREN TO CHINA,now I know this ain’t easy to swollow,BUT WAIT TILL it happens then see if CRYING ABOUT IT HELPS,..IF THE POLICE GANGS want to help OBAMA kiddnap your children,WELL SO BE IT,go to the schools with all your friends and take them back,and then deal with EVERYONE INVOLVED,remember they were going to KEEP THE CHILDREN,deal with them on the same level you would any rapest,child molester,kiddnaper,OR terrorists who would do harm to your family,cause thats THE PLAN…

        • Nothing in this world pains me more than watching children injured or dying. Words can never convey the aching in my heart witnessing the deaths of infants and children on that video.

          Just today I took my kids with me as I bought materials to renovate my bathroom and it really puts life into perspective.

          I know the video is from the fsa and I know Assad can put together his own video showing similar heartbreaking images to pander to the international community.

          What I am sure of is the stark reality most Americans and Europeans, the bulk of, if not all of so called civilized western civilization has let escape is the utter burning truth of what WAR fundamentally is.

          Our society is so polluted with rules of engagement, winning hearts and minds, nation building, and the idea of democratic coalitions for WAR our leaders and a lot of people think we can hide behind our high walls and lob cruise missiles 1000 miles. Then turn off the tv and forget about the repercussions.


          And in WAR, as it historically has been faught you destroy your enemy. Whether that is the actual enemy combatants, the enemies industrial compacity for WAR, the enemies future soldiers(children), the enemies standards for living and maintaining WAR(civilian targets such as hospitals, power plants, food stores, etc..)

          The US commited atrocious acts of barbarism throughout many theatre of conflict. Look to the fire bombing of Tokyo, destroyed the city to the point the atomic bomb had to be dropped on Hiroshima.

          Same can be said of ghengis Khan, his use of mass rape has left a permanent DNA marker on roughly 10% of the world’s population.

          Bottom line is in WAR as it’s been faught the most brutal and horrific traits of humanity bare they’re ugly head and the most insidious and gut wrenching acts are committed by all sides.

          There is nothing glorious or heroic.

          Those are terms adhered to acts after they have occurred.

          • Wolf359,
            Yeah, I’ve never known any soldier to say that there is anything “glorious” in war. Those who say that there is glory in war are the same ones who plan others’ fates from their comfy chairs.

            • John McCain

              • Because he is the buddy of Joe Libermann.

            • It won’t be until America experiences a war on our own soil that Americans finally stop clamoring for war.

          • We must fight a “humanitarian war” in Syria! It will be a precise, tailored strike (Well, as precise as one can be when using 1000# warheads. These “smart bombs” will not explode if anyone other than a bad guy is nearby).

            • If we are going in we need to go in and blow the shit out of everything. Trying to humanitarian just gets even more killed. And make us look worst. Level then start the rebuild.

              • FB…Can we start with your house and your family first as a prototype to see if your BS works? Already did that in Iraq and the result was innocent people your dumbF$$$$.

          • @Wolf359

            Save the indignation!

            You outed yourself many threads ago as a Warmonger!

            You want the US in Syria.


            • YMWW,

              Do you actually believe the tripe you post?

              You exude desperation with the insignificant and futile accusations directed at myself and others.

              If It wasn’t so easy to get you riled up I wouldn’t even engage you and you’re petty extremist comments.

              My posts speak volumes of where I stand. You’re feeble attempts of the old cut and splice of others people’s previous quotes out of context speak volumes of who you are.

              Instead of offering a position based on fact,reason and logic, you instead take out of context words written by others you disagree with.

              A classic hatchet job just like a mcnbc or media matters hit piece.

              Just know the good people here know who and what you are about and the majority want nothing from you. You’ll disappear into the dust bin of extremist posters and trolls.

              Good riddance.

              I apologize to the great people on this site. I shouldn’t get bogged down with tit for tat spats with trolls. Instead I should be focusing on helping the great community that is flourishing here.

          • Wolf – you speak the truth.

            The hideous deformities still occurring in Vietnamese children so many years later is just ONE example.

            War is when Satan comes out to play, with no restraints. It’s when the peadophiles, physchopaths and other sick elements emerge from the fringes of society and take centre stage, at the cost of any remnants of humanity that may cross their path.

        • I pray for an end to the suffering of the Syrian people, especially the children, but lets not forget that the rebels fight alongside al Qaeda and hunt down Christians. The rebels fight for Sharia not freedom. They reap what they sow. Their hardness of heart and oppressive Islamic beliefs lead them down this path. Now they are dealing with the consequences. The US has no business in Syria.

        • Shootit is 100% correct about Harbor Freight stuff being garbage…because it really is. The phrase “You get what you pay for” certainly rings true here. For people looking for small dependable 12 volt systems, look at Goal Zero- they have a wide range of foldable panels that really deliver. As a matter of fact they have a huge giveaway contest that ALL OF YOU should enter!

          For those that can afford it, but are sitting on the fence…you best get your butt in gear…time is almost up! The 250 watt Mono crystalline panels from Grape Solar at HomeDepot cannot be beat. How do I know? Well with over 6.5kW of Solar power online, I know a couple of things about solar power. 🙂

          For a charge controller, Morning Star products are very good. You will also need a decent inverter…word of advice…don’t go small. Go big or stay at home on the porch with the small dogs!

          • sorry was supposed to be thumbs up!

            • No worries. I don’t get all worked up over what others think of or rate my posts as. I’m here to share knowledge while it can still be shared.

              On a side note: What if the ‘Hokey Pokey’ really IS what it’s all about? 🙂

          • I have three Grape Solar 100 watt panels on my pole barn. Payed 200 dollars for each one. Have a Colman 30 amp charge controler hooked to the panels. Four 100 amp deep cycle batteries. System does a great job for my needs. I have a small deep freeze running off the batteries hooked to a 1100 watt inverter. The freezer uses around 100 watts when it is running. Only in the winter did I have to take the freezer off the system for awhile till the batteries charged backup.

        • What an selfish and ignorant comment. Put yourself in their position and then let’s see what you’ve got to say. It’s people like you that give Americans a Bad name.

      2. Police Jokes:

        A local policeman had just finished his shift one cold November evening and was at home with his wife.

        “You just won’t believe what happened this evening , in all my years on the force I’ve never seen anything like it.”

        “Oh yes dear, what happened ?”

        “I came across two guys down by the canal, one of them was drinking battery acid and the other was eating fireworks.”

        “Drinking battery acid and eating fireworks!! What did you do with them ?”

        “Oh that was easy, I charged one and let the other off.”

        Driving to work, a gentlman had to swerve to avoid a box that fell out of a truck in front of him. Seconds later, a policeman pulled him over for reckless driving. Fortunately, another officer had seen the carton in the road. The policmen stopped traffic and recovered the box. It was found to contain large upholstery tacks.

        “I’m sorry sir,” the first trooper told the driver, “but I am still going to have to write you a ticket.”

        Amazed, the driver asked for what.

        The trooper replied, “Tacks evasion.”

      3. Trouble In the Cockpit

        A plane was taking off from Kennedy Airport. After it reached a comfortable cruising altitude, the captain made an announcement over the intercom:

        “Ladies and gentlemen, this is your captain speaking. Welcome to Flight Number 293, non-stop from New York to Los Angeles. The weather ahead is good and, therefore, we should have a smooth and uneventful flight. Now sit back and relax – OH, MY GOD!”

        Silence followed, and after a few minutes the captain came back on the intercom and said:

        “Ladies and Gentlemen, I am so sorry if I scared you earlier; but, while I was talking, the flight attendant brought me a cup of coffee and spilled the hot coffee in my lap. You should see the front of my pants!”

        A passenger in Coach shouted, “That’s nothing. He should see the back of mine!”

        • The 777 that crashed at SFO was piloted by Captian We Too Wow.

          • chinese rupture ,by Wan Hong Lo

            “Race to the out house” by Willy Makit published by Betty Woht

          • And that’s relevant because… oh yea…I get it.

            What we are about to experience is not a TV show or a movie…

            You best get your priorities straight or you’re going to be fodder or somebody’s meal…

            What in the world is wrong with you people.
            Adding something clever is… never mind.

      4. There’s an old sea story about a ship’s Captain
        Who inspected his sailors, and afterward told
        The first mate that his men smelled bad…

        The Captain suggested perhaps it would
        Help if the sailors would change underwear
        The first mate responded, “Aye, aye sir,
        I’ll see to it immediately!”

        The first mate went straight to the sailors
        Berth deck and announced, “The Captain
        Thinks you guys smell bad and wants you
        To change your underwear.”

        He continued,
        “Pittman, you change with Jones,
        McCarthy, you change with Witkowski,
        And Brown, you change with Schultz.”

        Someone may come along and promise
        But don’t count on things smelling any better.

        • I don’t think this is Comedy Central. You missed a few turns back there.

          • Iowa:

            You related to gooberment guy?

            Same attitude.

            Just askin’

            • I do understand why you posted the “Gallo’s” humor…(prob the reason why)
              however, it’s not to the topic…
              I can only conclude that disturbing images take you out of your comfort zone.
              That’s not good for those around you…think about it.
              and who would you be in this scene?

              ww w.actionmoviefreak.com/lines.html

        • Eppe, you’re coming up with some of the best jokes I’ve heard in awhile. keep them coming. braveheart

          • I try, but some bummers have different ideas, where do your kin hang?

            • North GA, 40-50 miles south of TN-GA border; all I can say [OPSEC}. But they’re all GA born and bred; most from other parts of GA.

          • Evening Braveheart.

            Hope you are well my friend x

            • Howdy, Burt, and welcome back. Hope everything is going well. I understand you have relocated. braveheart

            • Burt, welcome back. Understand you have relocated. Hope all is well with you. braveheart

        • Old joke and off the Internet. Doesn’t make you a funny guy.


          A young Texan grew up wanting to be a lawman.

          He grew up big, 6′ 2″, strong as a longhorn, and fast as a mustang. He could shoot a bottle cap tossed in the air at 40 paces.

          When he finally came of age, he applied to where he had only dreamed of working: a West Texas Sheriff’s Department.

          After a series of tests and interviews, the Chief Deputy finally called him into his office for the young man’s last interview.

          The Chief Deputy said, “You’re a big strong kid and you can really shoot. So far your qualifications all look good, but we have, what you might call, an “Attitude Suitability Test”, that you must take before you can be

          We just don’t let anyone carry our badge, son.”

          Then, sliding a service pistol and a box of ammo across the desk, the Chief said, “Take this pistol and go out and shoot:

          Six illegal aliens,

          Six lawyers,

          Six meth dealers,

          Six Muslim extremists,

          Six Democrats, and a jack rabbit.”

          “A jack rabbit, why do you want me to shoot the rabbit?” queried the applicant.

          “You passed Son,” said the Chief Deputy. “How soon can ya’ll start ?”

          I LOVE TEXAS !

          • Hell yes, and that was NO JOKE! Standing by in doorway to the TEXAS HILL COUNTRY!

      5. I’ve been employed in Hospitals much of my life and although my experience is no where near a civil war, the goings on of the “Saturday Night Knife and Gun Club” found in a county hospital’s E.R. or O.R. is as close as I ever want to come to a real SHTF situation.

        I once treated a guy who had been stabbed by his wife, took a shower, put on his best cloths, drove himself to the E.R. and dam near bled out waiting in chair to be seen (internal bleeding). If we hadn’t started an I.V. when we did, he was a gone in about 5 minutes.

        The human heart is surely wicked.

      6. We are at a pivot point as we’ve been so many times before, I don’t know if its age or some slight wisdom I’ve gained through life (24 yrs Military) but the world truly appears to be at a tipping point, and for the most part it truly seems deliberate at this point.
        Those of us who are mentally prepared will fare the best in the face of shock and bewilderment, I had a Ranger instructor who always said “there’s two kinds of rangers. Strong rangers and smart rangers, which do you want to be?” Not a trick question but obvious that strengths alone will not get any of us through the day.

        Prepare, plan and war game everything, have multiple courses of action for as many possible events. Rehearse actions to the best of your ability, be smart enough to be shocked and bewildered later because when things go wrong quick decisions and action is all you’ll have time for.

      7. I am taking Selco course now. It is worth its asking price. It is mainly discussions on each stated topic. It will give you a whole new prospective on how things will actually be. If you watch the movie “Enemy at the gates” or “Behind enemy lines” it will sort of like that (only much worse). A lot of folks spew a lot of bravado about how though they are and how they will take out people who try to harm them. They don’t form teams or have alliances. In this course you learn that they are the first to go. No matter what the disaster (natural, war or manmade), it will be nothing like the “inconveniences of Katrina, Sandy, Northridge, Mt. Saint Helens, Andrew, and the like. Having worked Mt. Pinatubo, Katrina, Sandy, Hurricane “Elvis”, and others ( and a stint in the Iraq sandbox), what could be coming will be much worse….(as bad as those were). PRAY, PREP, PLAN, FORM TEAMS….. and be reasonable in all your dealings… it may save your life. Pray for the leadership of this country and that they don’t do anything stupid….

        • Man on the inside,

          I always think of you as Cato the Elder. He always ended every speech, no matter the topic, with “Carthago delenda est.” (“Carthage must be destroyed.”)

          I like your message better than his. It’s CONstructive (and INstructive), not DEstructive. 🙂

          • I could only dream of having his wisdom and would hope to live as long as he….

            • Thank you Jenn and prep hard and fast….. stay safe

              • Thank you. 🙂 May you and yours be safe and blessed with lots of good luck.

        • Man on the inside ,
          I saw and read this on the WRSA site earlier today , I don’t think a lot of people are equipped or prepared for an event of this magnitude on our own soil myself incuded. I agree it will be horrid and brutal . Some of the scenes in the video were downright disturbing I do not think anyone of us can imagine a state of total war against a civilian population .the cities will most likely resemble what is depicted and as Selco has described , he is providing a valuable resource
          to people on how to survive an event of this magnitude after living it first hand. What Selco lived through may be similar to what we may face especially on the east coast where most of us live and will have to operate in a urban , semi-urban or suburban AO.
          Whether it’s a collapse event , attack or the regime in power going rouge the cause is not going to matter , the environment will be similar and the end result will be total anarchy.
          Being able to be mobile when the need occurs and being creative will determine the survival outcome of each individual when facing unknown prospects. The main challenges to be faced in my opinion will be trying to get by without supply lines or outside help in this scenario. In the USMC I recieved MOUT training ( Military Operations Urban Terrain) but this type of training is based on 72 resupply and mechanized Transport something that we cannot expect to have.in a MEGA SHTF event, it may not be helpful in this type of situation.
          Now is the time to educate yourself , read first hand accounts of survivors , there are a lot of books available on experiences of the Second World War that still have valid information even though dated. Books about surviving in Germany in the last months of the War, books about the Battle for Stalingrad,and the siege of Bastogne ( I have a relative that was in the 101 AB from the beginning , he was even depicted in the HBO miniseries “Band of Brothers”) all of these books can provide insight.
          When SHTF occurs it may come without warning, swift and possibly violent , how you deal with it in the beginning may be the most crucial time period of the event. The more you lean and have developed skills will help you cope in unimaginable times.
          These imagines from video and the national news tonight showing totally devastated cities are haunting reminders how thin the veneer of civilization really is and serve as a testament of mans inhumanity to man.
          I feel that the human race has approached a pivotal point in time , where we have a choice of the Stars or being regulated to ash on a dead planet by our own hand. Just some brief reflections on the current situation it’s hard to remain positive in the face of things to come.
          What ever occurs we will be transformed and changed forever nothing will ever be the same again.



          Semper Fi 8541

          • Sorry about the typo’s auto check really messes things up
            ERRTA: 72= 72 hours 3 day assault pack provisions
            Various mispellings

            Semper Fi 8541

            • Night breaker I am right thier with ya.. I can engineer just about anthing…. shoot well, and do many other things….. but without “spell check” andthing bigger than the word IT and I am in deep trouble. And God blessed me with hudge paws instead of hands…. typing is not so fun…. LOL Stay safe on the East Side….

          • Night breaker, I’ve lived on the east coast previously and that is one of the WORST regions to be in when MEGA SHTF comes. If you’re anywhere on the east or west coast when the balloon goes up and not leave at least 2 days early, you will be screwed, mainly because of the population density. 40% of the entire US population live in coastal regions. most, if not all, of the people on the coasts will be history within 6 months of whatever mega event hits. the region I’m in right now has its own issues and threats facing it. I just hope I can make it to my relative’s BOL in time. braveheart

        • “it may save your life. Pray for the leadership of this country and that they don’t do anything stupid….”

          TOO LATE, Stupid is all this President has done since he has been in.

          • Well that does go without saying…. He is a narcissistic, egotistical, immature, leader who is very insecure. He cares nothing for his countrymen, and when a rodeo clown upsets him that is telling of how dangerous this child king is. He had the opportunity to have a big laugh and even invite him to the Whitehouse for a tour to show he can take a joke that was all in fun. But like all progressives he immediately cried like a little mama’s boy and sent the secret service. We are in deep trouble every day people like this lead us.

        • @MOTIS Everything they do is stupid…..We wouldn’t be in this dilemma if it were not this way…

        • “A lot of folks spew a lot of bravado about how tough they are and how they will take out people who try to harm them.”

          All kinds of people deal with their fears by rehearsing in their minds some unlikely kind of defense, whether fight or flight, yet many of those are not going to react properly when the time comes. If you are a “tough guy” and you get robbed at gunpoint, you may suddenly become a compliant pussycat. If you are a teenage girl and are kidnapped, you freeze up and fail to jump out of the car. If four guys kick in your front door and tie up your family and demand that you give them your valuables, you acknowledge their authority and yield, endangering your family in so doing.
          Much of this is psychological, and the bad guys know it! Once you give the adversary the psychological edge in a confrontation, it is much harder to get on top of the situation once again.
          I’m sure you know it, but it bears repeating: Don’t give them the advantage of surprise, slow them down with a multi-layered security apparatus, practice fighting and shooting such that you have adequate “muscle memory”, and train yourself mentally to defeat any kind of subterfuge, “finessing”, attempts to dominate with bluffing and shadows, or other deceptions.
          It could actually help to deliberately expose yourself to non-lethal encounters with somewhat-desperate people now, while it is still comparatively safe. Spend the night in the city and sleep under a bridge. Observe how people will try to exploit you so that you can protect yourself against their tactics. Many people have NO IDEA what it’s like to live off the rat-trails and comfy routines that they’ve become accustomed to, and they will be treated to all manner of unpleasant surprises when the shit hits the fan.

          • Mark you read my mind… this is exactly our team trains. But we do it in groups of three… with one as a safety look out (well armed). We are older and have day jobs so we can’t go totally “fight club”. You can though fool your oppressor into complacency by initially complying in SOME situations. And when it comes to STUFF… I will get more stuff. Once robbed of my motorcycle… I could have fought but throwing my keys to the perp and leaving quickly on foot probably save me and my wife’s life. The cops found the bike a few days later and arrested the perp. Six months later he was on the street. Two days after that he was in the hospital missing an eye and walks to this day with a permeate limp. I don’t forget when My family is threatened… I am a very patient adversary and it will end badly for the bad guy. In Selco’s course he talks a bit about sometimes laying low and taking care of business later. Many times the perp ends up killed or injured by someone else just due to their scummbag life style… Karma works like that. Stay save… and a good post giving us some more to think about. This place is like a good tool box with many great tools to use.

      8. Civil War, Police action, War is an equal opportunity killer. It really doesn’t matter if your a Navy Seal or a Boy Scout when God says your number is up your done.

        I’ve said it a hundred times highly trained, prepared individuals will die and untrained, unprepared individuals will live, It’s just the way it is. Being prepared and trained however, dramatically increases your odds of survival.

        Only about 10% of the American population has ever seen anything like what Selco describes above. I pray none of you ever have to see it, but if we have a global systemic financial collapse it’s going to land on you door step. Heed the warning signs!!!

        If the Shit does hit the fan remember the basics, security, air, water, shelter and food.

        • Patriot… I would say probably only 5%. And you are correct.. sometimes it is just your day. This is a good reason to serve the Lord in all things. And yes sometimes that means taking a life to preserve others. It sucks but that is how it is.

          • Actually it’s only about 1% that serves, but there are a lot of us still living.

      9. That’s “Their” plan. In VERY large numbers. It’s written in stone (the Georgia GuideSTONEs).

        • Actually been there, reading the words gave a eerie feeling, knowing most of us are what the words are talking about. (useless eaters)…

          • I’m not a useless eater. I just need to figure out which elite to suck up to and make myself useful to them so I get better housing, food, etc. than those around me.

            • By the gods Leslie Anne:

              You surely are drinking too much of that Walmart wine or you are smoking something funny.

              What the hell?

              • Leslie Anne:

                You old enough to have heard of Monica Lewinsky? And the words “suck up”? Know what they meant to that elite Pres? Better read up on it honey, with your brainy ideas that is where you are headed. Them elites are going to have a lot to choose from. Hope you look something like Marilyn Monroe and have her morals too. Good luck!

                • What is sarcasm?

                  • “What is sarcasm?”

                    When Obama says one thing and then does another, while smiling at you ;}

                  • Leslie Anne

                    I caught the gist of the sarcasm in your post.
                    I know you are a good person from reading your
                    previous comments.
                    Whenever I dip down into no mans land with a
                    tongue in cheek comment, I always use the Sarc/
                    designation, otherwise my hide gets nailed to
                    the barn door with Red Thumb tacks.
                    Other than that, keep on truckin’.

                  • What you posted and I thought it was funny…

                  • Thank you, OutWest…and if I ever see you thumb tacked to the barn door, I’ll come help you down 🙂

            • You will be rode hard and put away wet and you will regret in your later years.

        • I wouldn’t mind seeing those “guide stones” reduced back to the dust from whence they came…

          • Amen, brother.

        • I wish someone would push those over with a D8 CAT. I know… they have first amendment rights too but I still would like to see the D8 in action….

          • Our first amendment right doesn’t cover shouting ‘fire’ in a crowded theater, or calling for the annihilation of gays, and their first amendment right doesn’t cover calling for the annihilation of most of the entire planet either.

            Whether you hate same sex sex or an entire planet, HATE IS HATE and we have laws against “hate crime”—as repulsive as that idea is.

            • …and yes, I consider it repulsive that we need to create LAWS for outlawing “hate”.

      10. The most difficult thing is the decision to act, the rest is merely tenacity. The fears are paper tigers. You can do anything you decide to do. You can act to change and control your life; and the procedure , the process is its own reward.
        Amelia Earhart

        what do you do first ???

        make the decision
        that you are going to survive

        stop feeling helpless
        quit being the victim

        • “All living things contain a measure of madness that moves them in strange, sometimes inexplicable ways. This madness can be saving; it is part and parcel of the ability to adapt. Without it, no species would survive.”
          Yann Martel

          “The enemy is anybody who’s going to get you killed, no matter which side he is on.”
          Joseph Heller, Catch-22

          “If you don’t hunt it down and kill it, it will hunt you down and kill you.”
          Flannery O’Connor

          “Dignity is as essential to human life as water, food, and oxygen. The stubborn retention of it, even in the face of extreme physical hardship, can hold a man’s soul in his body long past the point at which the body should have surrendered it.”
          Laura Hillenbrand, Unbroken: A World War II Story of Survival, Resilience, and Redemption

      11. I have been all over the united states and found people to be more accountable for there actions more so in smaller towns where everyone knows each other in some form and have to answer for there actions. While I have seen the most gentle of people lose it when pushed to there breaking point I think that by and large it would be far easier to maintain a sense of normalcy in a small community than a large overpopulated where evil is just a block or two away. It is far easier to shit on a stranger than a neighbor in a small town . Much can be said for the old phrase (location location location). That is why I made a choice to give up the rat race and the quest for more money and chose piece of mind. Still we need to always think about community or networking with others.

        • I know for sure in a small comunity the odds are much higher, thats what im hoping for anyway, that well work it out and work together.
          Fingers crossed.

        • What this article left out and what I left out was that when civil unrest or wrol breaks out in the good old multiculre cesspool USA cites, the tiny, tiny 39 million blacks that inhabit this country are gonna see a huge population decrease. Many will be shot, beat to death , hung by there own or what ever the angry pissed off whites, Latinos , Asians and other nationalities they have pissed off will seize the moment to right the wrongs they have did. With all the attacks and hate crimes they are committing on a daily basis you can bet that will not be forgotten. These other countries will not hold a candle to the good ole USA when it comes to atrocities against people.If the world lives thru all this demise, The USA will be case studies for other countries. Multiculturalism in every country has created more hate than any religion has. I or you can bring this to light unlike the creator of this article or other authors cause they have to be politically correct to sell there stuff or fear being blackballed for telling like it is. Me … I could give a rats ass about hurting some group of peoples feelings for speaking the truth. Again being in a large town means you are screwed because of the free loading, no credible, drug using ,food stamp dependent, scum bag drain on humanity, kill whitey, majority type of blacks that make up large populations. After they have killed the white minorities that stayed there only to see there wives and daughters raped before they are killed , the blacks will have to move out for food searches in large untrained groups, were of course they will be slaughtered by the very people they seek to kill. All the things talked about on here it seems that the obvious is always kept hush hush. But I cannot see it any other way in the good ole USA.

          • Fortunately, they will feed on each other as soon as the opportunity arises.

        • People are people regardless of where they live. I live in a small town. It will still get very, very ugly after the collapse. It’ll take longer than in the city but it will happen. People will be patient for a couple of days. Maybe even a week. But eventually they’ll become convinced that the power won’t go back on and the government won’t be coming to help. You can’t band together with people who are unprepared and have no food. I don’t bother talking to people about prepping because the ones I talked to first all thought I was crazy. No point in making myself a target after the collapse.

      12. Good time for a joke, not much joking gonna be going on later. Hell On Earth Is Coming With A Vengeance!

        • Agreed, but many here are so jaded.
          Where has Daisy been?

          • Eppe, Possee mentioned in the last forum that Daisy and Burt the Brit have been in the process of relocating. He also heard from Manos and says he’s OK and will supposedly contact us soon.

            • Brave heart….thanks for the update on Manos….I’ve been away for awhile ( non prepping husband who doesn’t want to hear about it! Grrrr :/ ) And I was just thinking about Manos today!!
              Happy to hear he’s doing well 🙂

              Anyone in the East TN, north GA area or Western NC area….Carolina Readiness Supply http://www.carolinareadiness.com/ is having their annual SENSIBLE MOUNTAIN PREPAREDNESS SEMINAR Nov. 1 -2
              Bill Forstchen “One Second After” author will be speaking on Saturday evening! I can’t wait…gonna see if I can drag the husband along…might wake him up!!

              • @ smokymtnlady got some apple cider donuts from barbers last week 🙂 thanks for the info on the seminar!

            • Read (somewhere) just a couple of days ago that a Euro banking official claimed that Greece will need another bailout soon.

          • Daisy’s web site is still up and running, maybe she’s just taking a break from some of the b/s that goes on here regularly or maybe she reads daily without showing everyone here how smart she is on a daily basis. Like I’m sure a lot of people do on this site by the amount of people who visit this site daily without commenting.

            • Reply to my comment, not putting this site down think it’s a good site, I usually check it everyday, just don’t like some of the hate comments but like that Mac allows all a platform to speak. Wouldn’t want to see the comments he would not allow if there is any.

        • Thanks, Satori.

      13. Yes, the grief and slaughter of innocents in Syria is unimaginable – very bad.
        But does that mean we should fight alongside Al Qaeda? No, hell no, absolutely not!
        We’re shown videos of the islamic terrorist Al Qaeda every day on the news as they train and prepare to kill us. Let them fight their own battle. Keep our own precious sons and daughters safe from their insanity. Our children are as precious to us as those in the video are to them. I REFUSE to allow our own to suffer and die for the sake of Al Qaeda!
        Remember 9-11!

        • Gave you a thumbs up . could not agree more.

        • Syria will be like Somilia. US soldiers can expect equal treatment from any group they encounter.

        • How about 1000 thumbs up. I see only one thumbs down and my response to such idiot (s) is: People around the world are waking up to see such massacres of innocent civilians are mainly taking place by cannibals from the man made Al Qaeda group and their DNA cousins in a cesspool countries of Saudi and Israel. Let the thumbs down fly now since it won’t change the truth.

      14. Better get use to these types of vids for they will visit you in the future. Broken arms, compound fractures, bullet wounds and missing body parts. How fast is a medical supply depleted in a firefight?
        A good portion of you have NO FIRST AID TRAINING. Never mind you may have a small First Aid Kit. Then you may have a kit but never looked inside it. Imagine taking your little first aid kit into combat?
        Get Smart. Get Real. Get your shit together.

        • I’ve already been in several unexpected trauma situations and performed as well as was necessary. For any untrained person, performing “as well as necessary means three things—

          1. You didn’t panic and cause any more damage.

          2. You didn’t get anyone else hurt or killed.

          3. The victim survived long enough for the real deal to get there and take over.

          If a person can at least do that much, with a little training, they would make a pretty proficient seat-of-the-pants field medic. I was luckier than some, because I’ve had some training and I can remain calm.

          I see people talking constantly about having to be “highly trained” in order to get the job done. Some suggest that you have to pretty much be a sniper or special forces to defend yourself, or you have to be an EMT, nurse or doctor to save a life…I’m convinced that that isn’t necessarily true.

          People with just a little common sense, save other people’s lives all the time. What they had to go with that common sense, was an ability to remain calm, think clearly and take action…and sometimes, just guts.

          One of our greatest assets will be the people who may not be highly trained in anything in particular, but can think and learn quickly. Show me 10 ordinary people who can think for themselves and learn quickly, and I’ll show you a group of people who can be taught how to be effective at whatever the task may be.

          Just ordinary people.

          • Sixpack.

            That is the point. If we all have some training for things we know we will encounter it increases our chances of survival. I have seen many cuts and bruises. Broken limbs and sprains. Ever been in a street fight?
            Black eye and broken nose. Teeth knocked out. You learn a lot about pain in a hurry. Taste of blood. Smell of blood and sight of blood everywhere.
            To be honest Sixpack, in most cases we are going to very limited in what we can do in the more serious injuries without advanced medicine.

            • 4 year prepper says:

              I am not a nurse or any kind of trained trauma person but when my husband was doing some work for one of his clients, and working alone, he accidently screwed himself to the stud he was working on. It was thin enough that the screw came thru the other side and into his middle finger on the other hand he used to hold the stud.
              God was with him and fortunately his drill had a reverse on it. He used it to back the screw out and unscrew himself. (That was the day I purchased his cellphone)
              When he came home to me, I doctored him using common sense. He healed beautifully without any infection, scar or anything.
              They don’t teach common sense in med and nursing school. You either have it or you don’t All you need sometimes is confidence in yourself and faith in our healer.

              4 year prepper

              • Did that with an air framing nailer, just once. Cleaned it up with alcohol and it healed just fine.

      15. Off the topic but CNN just announced Diane Fienstien just confirmed the new videos from Syria’s Gas attack are authentic. This reminds me of a farmer asking a fox killing his chickens if your are innocent and who is your witness? Fox replied back ” It is my tail”. We are safe now since Diane assured us the rest of the world are guilty because she just told you so.

        • Perhaps hers should be the first “boots on the ground” over there…strap that bitch to a missile and watch ‘er go!

          • One would think that with the last 75 yrs of time since Finestiens cousins and tribal others, so close to those bolshevik kommie jewish russian murderers that commited vast mass genocidal exterminations during most of that time frame. That by now finstiens various senate committes would have sent their Other cousin, Eli the Weasel out to do a search for at least one single war criminal of the jewish bolshevik kommie variety eh.

            It is ironic that one never seems to hear any complaints from the masses in america,that to date, not a single such bolshevik commie has ever even been accused nor charged with any war crimes of mass exterminations, that all of recorded human history has never shown any to be worse.

            One would think Eli the Weasel, famous nazi hunter, would Jump at such a chance to hunt down and bring to justice even a single bolshevik jewish kommie murderous war criminal. Especially when Eli would be able to Remain Stateside since there were/are so many such war criminals running about free as a bird all over these united states of america.

            I’d wager Between Finestien and her pal’s Schumer and Bloomberg, to name just a few, would be able to provide eli the weasel a few Dozen names and address’s just from those three kommies Own personal phone books.

            Of course that is assuming she and they still maintain a close personal relationship with such relatives as to possess those address’ and names etc.

            Of all recorded wars, war crimes and criminals, in most eras of history I do not recall ever reading of any other wars etc where not even one single murderer or war criminal was even accused or charged, besides that russian revolutionairy event.

            The absolute worst such war crimes event in all of history, and not a single accused, charged nor convicted kommie criminal. That speaks Volumes of who actually controls the entire apperatus of msm and fed govnt in America eh.

            • Another well documented piece Them Guy. For those with thumbs down, why don’t you go and read the historical documents Vs marketing your daily BS and feeling the world owe you based on manufactured historical data. You are disgusting.

              • Tactical: All them thumb down folks KNOWS we are correct on all we post info on regarding bolsheviks and the vast jewish connections. Thats why none can ever refute such proven documented info. They use thumb down feature because in their small warped delusional minds, they believe whatever either msm and hollywood movies taught them, or what their pastors taught, or Both!

                IE: Most pastors teach the exact same as one pastor here believes and I assume also Teaches. That being a totally wrong interpretation of a few Genesis book verses on, God blessed Abraham and his “seed” etc…

                They have twisted and spun that into a misinterpretation of “God says You Must bless all and every jewish person ever to have been born and ever Yet to be born”!

                Heres the way TV preachers tells it Tactical: First they say “God is NOT a respecter of Persons/individuals as he loves Us ALL equally”..Then in very Next breath same preachers says” “God says You Must Bless them Jews because they are special and chozens”!

                ok so Which is it preacher? All are equal? or all are equal BUT Jews are MORE equal?!!! Sounds like them pastors was taught by reading “Animal Farm” by George Orwell eh! “All animals on animal farm are equal…Except for those Swine Piggies as They are MORE equal”!

                Now I amy be inclind to agree on that Swine Piggies part has an uncanny resemblence, but that More equal stuff? Not so.

                No matter how often a few us us NON deluded folks here post the exact biblical verses, from both new and old testement books, that totally destroy their misguided wrong interpretations, which are usually due to reliance upon Syrus Scofields “partnership with Rothchild banksters” in the printing of, scofields bibles. It never sinks in to their minds. Truth even when provided From the Very KJV bibles they so cherrish, simply eludes those folks it seems.

                It laymans terms they are Akin to Dem Liberals who say “Do Not Confuse us with Facts or Truths, because our minds are already made up”

                Sometimes such idiotic stuborness gets folks hurt or even killed! Yet when it applies to delusional falshood beliefs regarding important biblical Truths based on biblical facts…Well That will cause folks to Lose their eternal salvation! I consider that much worse than even death itself. It is the Second Death spoken of in Revelation book.

                We as good Watchmen on the other hand, as long as we keep attempting to awaken folks have done our main job, and shall hear the words to us from the Lord, “Well Done My good and faithfull servants” In Detroit street slang that means the Lord is saying “Come On IN Bros!” You have Passed the tests!

                • Indeed correct. So let’s just add a very basic reading for the thumbs down folks who are not either interested in history or they just are acting as ignorants. We Are Not Coming Back
                  Please take a moment to digest this provocative article by a Jewish Rabbi from Teaneck , N.J. It is far and away the most succinct and thoughtful explanation of how our nation is changing. The article appeared in The Israel National News, and is directed to Jewish readership. 70% of American Jews vote as Democrats. The Rabbi has some interesting comments in that regard.

                  Rabbi Steven Pruzansky is the spiritual leader of Congregation Bnai Yeshurun in Teaneck, New Jersey

                  “The most charitable way of explaining the election results of 2012 is that Americans voted for the status quo – for the incumbent President and for a divided Congress. They must enjoy gridlock, partisanship, incompetence, economic stagnation and avoidance of responsibility. And fewer people voted.

                  But as we awake from the nightmare, it is important to eschew the facile explanations for the Romney defeat that will prevail among the chattering classes. Romney did not lose because of the effects of Hurricane Sandy that devastated this area, nor did he lose because he ran a poor campaign, nor did he lose because the Republicans could have chosen better candidates, nor did he lose because Obama benefited from a slight uptick in the economy due to the business cycle.

                  Romney lost because he didn’t get enough votes to win.

                  That might seem obvious, but not for the obvious reasons. Romney lost because the conservative virtues – the traditional American virtues of liberty, hard work, free enterprise, private initiative and aspirations to moral greatness – no longer inspire or animate a majority of the electorate.

                  The simplest reason why Romney lost was because it is impossible to compete against free stuff.

                  Every businessman knows this; that is why the “loss leader” or the giveaway is such a powerful marketing tool. Obama’s America is one in which free stuff is given away: the adults among the 47,000,000 on food stamps clearly recognized for whom they should vote, and so they did, by the tens of millions; those who – courtesy of Obama – receive two full years of unemployment benefits (which, of course, both disincentivizes looking for work and also motivates people to work off the books while collecting their windfall) surely know for whom to vote. The lure of free stuff is irresistible.

                  The defining moment of the whole campaign was the revelation of the secretly-recorded video in which Romney acknowledged the difficulty of winning an election in which “47% of the people” start off against him because they pay no taxes and just receive money – “free stuff” – from the government.

                  Almost half of the population has no skin in the game – they don’t care about high taxes, promoting business, or creating jobs, nor do they care that the money for their free stuff is being borrowed from their children and from the Chinese.

                  They just want the free stuff that comes their way at someone else’s expense. In the end, that 47% leaves very little margin for error for any Republican, and does not bode well for the future.

                  It is impossible to imagine a conservative candidate winning against such overwhelming odds. People do vote their pocketbooks. In essence, the people vote for a Congress who will not raise their taxes, and for a President who will give them free stuff, never mind who has to pay for it.

                  That engenders the second reason why Romney lost: the inescapable conclusion that the electorate is ignorant and uninformed. Indeed, it does not pay to be an informed voter, because most other voters – the clear majority are unintelligent and easily swayed by emotion and raw populism. That is the indelicate way of saying that too many people vote with their hearts and not their heads. That is why Obama did not have to produce a second term agenda, or even defend his first-term record. He needed only to portray Mitt Romney as a rapacious capitalist who throws elderly women over a cliff, when he is not just snatching away their cancer medication, while starving the poor and cutting taxes for the rich.

                  During his 1956 presidential campaign, a woman called out to Adlai
                  Stevenson: “Senator, you have the vote of every thinking person!”
                  Stevenson called back: “That’s not enough, madam, we need a majority!” Truer words were never spoken.

                  Obama could get away with saying that “Romney wants the rich to play by a different set of rules” – without ever defining what those different rules were; with saying that the “rich should pay their fair share” – without ever defining what a “fair share” is; with saying that Romney wants the poor, elderly and sick to “fend for themselves” – without even acknowledging that all these government programs are going bankrupt, their current insolvency only papered over by deficit spending.

                  Similarly, Obama (or his surrogates) could hint to blacks that a Romney victory would lead them back into chains and proclaim to women that their abortions and birth control would be taken away. He could appeal to Hispanics that Romney would have them all arrested and shipped to Mexico and unabashedly state that he will not enforce the current immigration laws. He could espouse the furtherance of the incestuous relationship between governments and unions – in which politicians ply the unions with public money, in exchange for which the unions provide the politicians with votes, in exchange for which the politicians provide more money and the unions provide more votes, etc., even though the money is gone.

                  Obama also knows that the electorate has changed – that whites will soon be a minority in America (they’re already a minority in
                  California) and that the new immigrants to the U.S. are primarily from the Third World and do not share the traditional American values that attracted immigrants in the 19th and 20th centuries. It is a different world, and a different America . Obama is part of that different America , knows it, and knows how to tap into it. That is why he won.

                  Obama also proved again that negative advertising works, invective sells, and harsh personal attacks succeed. That Romney never engaged in such diatribes points to his essential goodness as a person; his “negative ads” were simple facts, never personal abuse – facts about high unemployment, lower take-home pay, a loss of American power and prestige abroad, a lack of leadership, etc. As a politician, though, Romney failed because he did not embrace the devil’s bargain of making unsustainable promises.

                  It turned out that it was not possible for Romney and Ryan – people of substance, depth and ideas – to compete with the shallow populism and platitudes of their opponents. Obama mastered the politics of envy of class warfare – never reaching out to Americans as such but to individual groups, and cobbling together a winning majority from these minority groups. If an Obama could not be defeated – with his record and his vision of America , in which free stuff seduces voters – it is hard to envision any change in the future.

                  The road to Hillary Clinton in 2016 and to a European-socialist economy
                  – those very economies that are collapsing today in Europe – is paved.

                  For Jews, mostly assimilated anyway and staunch Democrats, the results demonstrate again that liberalism is their Torah. Almost 70% voted for a president widely perceived by Israelis and most committed Jews as hostile to Israel . They voted to secure Obama’s future at America ‘s expense and at Israel ‘s expense – in effect, preferring Obama to Netanyahu by a wide margin.

                  A dangerous time is ahead. Under present circumstances, it is inconceivable that the U.S. will take any aggressive action against Iran and will more likely thwart any Israeli initiative. The US will preach the importance of negotiations up until the production of the first Iranian nuclear weapon – and then state that the world must learn to live with this new reality.

                  But this election should be a wake-up call to Jews. There is no permanent empire, nor is there an enduring haven for Jews anywhere in the exile. The American empire began to decline in 2007, and the deterioration has been exacerbated in the last five years. This election only hastens that decline. Society is permeated with sloth, greed, envy and materialistic excess. It has lost its moorings and its moral foundations.. The takers outnumber the givers, and that will only increase in years to come.

                  The “Occupy” riots across this country in the last two years were mere dress rehearsals for what lies ahead – years of unrest sparked by the increasing discontent of the unsuccessful who want to seize the fruits and the bounty of the successful, and do not appreciate the slow pace of redistribution.

                  If this election proves one thing, it is that the Old America is gone.
                  And, sad for the world, it is not coming back.”

                  The problems we face today are there because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.

                  Have a good day!

                • What color is your sheet, white or red?

            • @ Them Guys —

              The Amerikan cattle have been trained to react with righteous indignation like Pavlovian poodles whenever “The Holocaust” (TM) is mentioned, but at the same time they view the 20 to 30 million victims of Jewish Bolshevism as faceless nonentities not even worthy of their contempt. The training Amerikans receive from their ministers and “pastors” has conditioned them to view anybody the Jews attack as “having it coming” and deserving of death. Awkwardly for these sheep, that category of course includes Jesus Christ himself, who was murdered by the Romans AT THE DEMAND of the Jew establishment (read the Apocrypha – Pontius Pilate was TERRIFIED of the JEWS, and bent over backward to please them), but these idiots and moral cowards manage to dance around that inconvenient fact. Let’s see the faces of these “ministers” (the non-Jewish ones, at least) when ZOG, whose regime and official ideology they serve, turns on THEM, for have they not participated in a kind of “revolution” against the West, and do not all revolutions eventually devour their own children?

              By the way, these “minsters” of Zionism are predicted in the “end time” prophecies of the texts they claim to venerate, and they are described as being skilful enough in their lying so as to “deceive “the very “elect.” They are not other worldly outsiders of God’s kingdom, but very much men of the world and politics — in fact, they are actually POLITICAL COMMISSARS of Zionism, the OFFICIAL ideology / state religion of antichrist LGBT ZOG Amerika. THESE ministers of ZOG have a mass following, not WE; they have a national forum, while we are voices crying in the wilderness; and THEY are “respected” by the establishment and masses, while we who tell the truth are the ones in the catacombs.

              Amerikans couldn’t care less about the tens of millions of Russians, Ukrainians, Poles, etc. murdered by Jewish Bolsheviks.

              • Ahab: Once again you have proven to be one of, if not The most, articulate writer we here have! I envy the way you can take simple words, and assemble them together into sentences and paragraphs that are not only factual and truthfull, but at the same instance Smack the foolish idiotic assholes amoung us right square between their Eyes!

                Like a .308 calibre Bullet of Pure Truth that comes at the fools unseen, unheard untill without warning slams into their frontal lobe regions just beneath their outer forehead skin and skull bone!

                Ahab you do not post replies near as often as most of us here do. Yet whenever you do add your post or opinions I truly appreciate how well they read, and how they speak Volumes.

                We few may be just a few, yet keep in mind that even if we each reach just One such as you described of todays jewdeo christain, zionist worshipping, deluded fools, then we Have done swell.

                The Lord himself in one verse ask’s “When I return, will I find Any true christian’s who Know the Truth”?

                I take that to mean that, many self professed “christians” of todays era should Re-Examine whether or not they truly know the Truth, or are they now so deluded into beliving such falsehoods as you outlined, that they just may be shocked to find that at the Judgement they will be standing along side those evil jewdeo zionist son’s of Satan, in the Line assigned to the GOATS!

                Thinking all along that they numbered amoung the Sheep who do belong to the Lord.

                Just Keep posting such great comments and replies Ahab, and All you other truth tellers here! As Our Rewards shall cause those fools and idiots “rewards” to Pale in comparison when the rewards for all of their non stop “Bless them Jews” nonsense, ends with them Joining with the zionists and jewish bolshevik kommies for all eternity in that Lake of Fire awaiting all such evil doers.

          • sixpack, that just made me think of a Wiley Coyote episode. Diane and Wiley apparently are related I’m sure.

            • They both seem to like to use every resource they can get, to throw a monkey wrench into someone else’s plans…I see the family resemblance too.

        • Very funny! I thought the fox said he ate his witness.

          The fox also told the farmer, he is a savor of his animal kingdom!!!!

        • Of course the videos are authentic, that’s not the point. How do they prove who made the attack? How do they prove it was not an accident? How do they prove it was not the rebels’ themselves?

          Those are the questions, not are those really dead people on film or not.

          • Smokey, I really hate to say or even think like this but sadly, I distrust my president, representatives (except Paul’s) specially a bitch named Diane F more than anyone else.

            • Fagstien used to be my senator, now its crapper or whatever his name is. (crapo). All bought and paid for and blackmailed by the nsa/ptb.

        • This from a woman who has a Concealed Carry Permit but doesn’t want anybody else have one.

      16. Slingshot, that’s good advice, for we’ll be seeing these things for real. Whenever I can get to the BOL, I have a relative who was an EMT and can train me on first aid. i’m afraid those videos will become REAL LIFE for all of us. braveheart

        • Yes brave. You are always afraid of something. Why not learn first aid now? Go to a community college and get out of the apartment.

          • Always afraid, BUT, still willing to guarantee that it will not end well for them!

      17. Putin will not back down. BO and the rest of the Chicago inter circle will not back down because they cannot it’s their only way of life the BULLY. By some chance BO dose back down, Putin comes out as the world leader, top dog, and Russia will be in- braced by all. Now you can kiss the FRN-petro dollar-reserve currency whatever good bye. Yes that is the end of the U. S. A. So if neither one backs down WW3 opening act will be very soon. Let us not forget CHINA, just sitting back and watching for a little while.

        • People seem to forget that we’re talking about the loss of innocent lives. This is not a dick stretching contest. You don’t blow up men, women and children to save your vanity. It is the warmongers who are trying to subvert the issue and make this about “saving face”. The only way you can “save face” when you are in the wrong, is by admitting you are wrong and STOPPING WHAT YOU’RE DOING.

          This is not about Obummer’s FACE.

          This is not about Putin seeming stronger—if he avoids nuking the hell out of the world, then HE IS A STRONGER LEADER.

          PLEASE stop worrying about saving obummer’s double-sided face, he’ll prove himself to be as big an idiot as Bush if he attacks Syria, then we find out this was not Assad’s doing, just like we found out Bush was a liar.

          I expect to find out that Assad wasn’t responsible, but probably not before thousands of innocent people die…to “tech Assad a lesson” as if that was OUR place in the first place.

          • Sixpack … You just said it right and amen to what you said.

          • Howdy, sixpack, and I also agree. Syria is not our problem. Nothing in the ME is worth one American life. braveheart

          • People will kill to save face, but I think it is TPTB scripted. If they want war, it will happen. Since when did they care about the common folk? dont know if you have alliances in your town, but If you had to run, go north then east to my area. You have the right mindset.

          • When I read the posts about 0 going to WAR with Syria because he is a BULLY or he needs to save face; I have to scratch my head.

            Can anyone of you actually believe that could POSSIBLY BE THE REASON?

            Please, dig a little deeper. The information for why this is happening to us is right at your fingertips. I owe a shout out of thanks to Pissed Off White Guy (must be a relative I haven’t met yet) for a link he posted a few subjects back. I regret not thanking him for it then. In case you want the real historic background of what has happened go to iamthewitness dot com daryl bradford smith rothchild dot htm.

            This trail of history will soon convince you that the present president (I can’t hardly stand to even type his name; Barry Sotero, BHB, what is it?, who knows?) is not considering war with Syria because he is a bully or wants to save face, then nothing will.

            Thanks Sixpak for your post.

            • Pissed Off Granny: Yep that Link you mentioned, I did go to it and I did Read the Entire article. Actually it is more of a entire Rothschilds Timeline that starts at the very begining with the first “rothschild” Amsel Mayer.

              It began in around early 1700’s era if I recall right. That timeline goes on to List every major event and war etc and exactly how and what relates to rothschild banksters family of pure evil zionist jews. Names Names, Dates, places, events, etc.

              Once read and digested fully that timeline info unmistakably shows a person all the Hidden details of who and what and whys. Even state of israel’s Flag six point star is based on rothschilds RED star first used on his “loan co.” HQ first based in germany.

              Thats reason Amsel Mayer switched his name to rothschild. In german it means roth=RED and schild=Sheild. hence RED Shield with Red six point Star on company name at HQ above main enterance door.

              That, I am the witness website also has alot more great expose info on russian red revolt WWI, WWII etc etc. Right up to info on Todays troubles and how its all related to that Sinagogoue of Satan bunch of Khazars!

              They are going to really Pay the Price when it is They who are in that huge wine Vat the Lord is going to Stomp into death and Hell as spoken of in Revelation book!

              But whats to become of all those Enablers of those evil grapes of the Lords Wrath? Will they too be tossed into his wine vat and be delt with in same manner? Time will tell eh…Tic Toc

              • Them guys…I believe that God has woken enough of us up to stand with him during “the stomping”.

                I’ll be as ready as I’m supposed to be.

                God bless those of you who stand with the Lord and the beautiful earth that he created.

                Tic toc…

        • Can’t you just see the shock and fustration on O’s face? “How DARE the world defy ME ?! Who does this ‘Putin’ clown think he IS ???”

          • Bob, I wonder where are are NAACP, AS and JJ to defend their leader. We heard more from them during Martin Vs Zimmermann.

      18. The Lone Ranger’s

        W O R L D W A R III Q U I C K – L I S T:

        [Not to be taken as all-inclusive but PLEASE think outside the militarist politicians’ boxes!]

        1- Buy several 5-gallon containers of gas, the stuff to extend the life of the gas, fill your containers, then hide them, before they sell out once gas prices rise to the roof.

        Once World War III starts or soon thereafter, gas won’t reach $25./gallon, it just will not be available. Those with no gas will envy the states that are rationed to 2 gallons every other day, if that.

        Use the Emergency Gas only to bug out or to get yourself to a hospital if need be or if someone has to deliver a baby.

        2- Buy warm winter clothing including gloves, scarves, hats, and boots NOW.

        3- Got your water and nonperishable food stocked up? Soups? What about winter heating “devices”?

        4- Buy batteries: AA, AAA, C, D, whatever you are gonna need for the LONG haul. Yes, rechargeable batteries are good.

        5- Got any windup flashlights? What about candles, and a fire extinguisher?

        6- How about devices that will charge your devices from the sun?

        7- Got all your hygiene products stored up?

        8- What about your Prescription meds and over-the-counter ones?

        9- Got any spare cash hidden in the event of a bank holiday or currency collapse?

        10- Got a bike purchased with spare tires and parts to help you conserve gas if feasible?

        11- What have you decided on to entertain yourselves once the crap hits the fan, especially if the grid goes down? Cards, books, board games– the stuff we used to do as kids before the i-device revolution struck everyone? We’re ALL gonna need a break from the satanic evil going on around the globe and in our own country.

        12- As important if not more important as the barest essentials: Consider Downloading the SEAL OF THE LIVING GOD at:
        a- http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/downloads.seals/GB/Seal_English.pdf
        b- Print it out– (other languages are available at that site);
        c- Photocopy enough copies for you, your loved ones, and all your respective homes;
        d- Have a Priest bless all the Copies of the Seal
        e- The other instructions for the Seal of the Living God are to say the Seal P\rayer once a day, ALWAYS keep it on your person, and hang it in your homes so when evildoers come you, your friends, and your loved ones will be rendered nonvisible.

        Of course the Evil One would want you to think otherwise and make you deem it poppycock!

        Just do it and have Faith.

        Yes God helps those who help themselves!

        But through the SEAL, God the Father has set forth this Seal as His most powerful protection against any and ALL evildoers (especially the Antichrist who, we are told, will soon come to prominence– he will be the person who arranges the peace among 7 warring middle eastern countries, Maria was told. We can pray for anyone, Jesus told Maria, but not for the Antichrist “because he is not of the Father.” Scary stuff!)

        Stock up on nonperishable food because once WWIII starts, the War will make deliveries of oil and gasoline impossible and thus trucks that deliver our food will come no more.

        So PREP, PRAY THE SEAL, PREP SOME MORE, and TRUST the LIVING God, because we ARE living in the End Time, my dear friends!

        Look, the devil’s greatest accomplishment was convincing most folk that it don’t exist. Bullcrap– that’s why this site exists!

        Its second greatest accomplishment was convincing some folk that they were strong enough to defeat it and its minions (foreign troops on our land, nukes, etc.) WITHOUT Faith, and in this case of our being at the END Time, WITHOUT THE SEAL OF THE LIVING GOD!

        My dear friends, we’re in for a heck of a bumpy ride but we will ride it out.

        So… Don’t get mad, get Smarter!

        With much respect,

        The Lone Ranger


        • You were doing good until you got to 12. Invisible, really? And I suppose you believe a copy of the Abgar letter will keep your house from burning down. These people are high tech now. They used to send my grandmother crap like prayer rugs, which were really handkerchiefs, and then had the nerve to ask her to send them back when she was finished with them. If “Maria” was serious, she wouldn’t have the whole site covered in advertising. And don’t tell me she needs money to keep the site up. I have several sites, and they don’t even cost $10 per month. Even Billy Graham was a money grubber. I ordered a free paperback book from him when I was in high school. They bugged me for money for years. They even sent me blank checks so I wouldn’t have to use one of my own.

          Sorry about the rant, but religious charlatans burn me up.

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          • That’s why, Archivist, sadly, you will probably be among the first deaths caused by the men in dark uniforms when they come for those who will not accept the mark of the beast, once all currency collapses. Foreign troops have been training here for some time in mulititudes.

            Yes, you have the right to your opinion, but it might cost you your life, which I do not want to see! So don’t be a victim: Lose your ego, drop your judgments, read the Messages, print out the Seal, etc. etc. It’s all in black and white. Don’t be a casualty of the great evil coming our way! Peace to you, brother!

            – The Lone Ranger

            p.s. Only one thing is for “sale” at that site, and it’s Volume One and Volume Two of the Messages, also known as “the Book of Truth”, referenced both in the Book of Daniel and in John. But you can read ALL the Messages for FREE, and print them out for free, if you want, unless you want them in book form. Yup, the Seal of the Living God costs nothing but a Prayer. Don’t be casualty bec we NEED YOU!

            • I am sort of low tech… I just have several bibles, a couple of commentaries, and some basic Roman and Hebrew and old world history books. Oh and I Pray… seems to work…. PRAY, PREP, PLAN, FORM TEAMS.

              p.s. There is always that “Rapture “ thingeee…

              (Oh boy… now I realy started something… )

              • Man on the Inside:

                I have a question for the people on this site who TRULY believe in the rapture.

                If you TRULY believe the rapture why would you need to prepare at all?

                I would appreciate it if someone would answer my question.


                • There is no answer because the rapture is not biblical.

                  • I know Archivist; but I would like to hear just one person that believes in the rapture tell me why they are prepping if they believe they will be spirited away before the shtf. If I truly believed the rapture, I sure wouldn’t be spending my time and effort prepping. Or maybe they aren’t just aren’t quite sure?

                • I’m not Christian, but I think part of the reason for prepping may be because they don’t believe they have been good enough to be worthy of rapture. (I think I remember reading that only a certain specific number will be raptured, and the rest will be left to cope.) And part of it may be because the ones left behind will need to survive somehow while helping others who wish to improve their souls to be better and worthy of a heavenly afterlife.

                  Granted, my knowledge only comes from reading the Left Behind series, but it sounds plausible enough.

                  • Jenn:

                    Thank you for your response; but I would really like to see a post from a Christian that preps and believes in the rapture. I believe they would be the only ones able to give a true response to my question.

                • @ PO’d Grandma..

                  I am a Christian, I prep and also believe in the rapture.

                  I DO NOT believe in the PRE TRIB rapture of the “Left Behind” series…

                  I believe in a POST TRIB rapture. Which means Christians will have to go thru the tribulation. The tribulation is NOT the wrath of GOD, it is of satan.

                  I believe the Resurrection and the Rapture happen at the same point in time.. The dead in Christ will rise first and those who are alive and remain shall be “Caught Up” together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air…

                  “caught up” is “harpodzo” in greek and from that the Latin word “Rapture”

                  So this is one view on the Rapture.

                  There is also those who believe in a “Mid Trib” rapture as well. Which has more scriptural truth than “Pre Trib”.

                  Its not my intention to debate it, nor will I.

                  Just FYI.


                  • No worries, Granny. 🙂 You’re quite right.

                    And BackSpace, and those books were very badly written anyway. Even the Antichrist wasn’t an interesting character. (Yes, I realize they were supposed to be instructive, not entertaining.)

                    As far as bad guys go, you’d think that the Baddest of Bad Guys would be a rather interesting character. Not so, in these books. Boring, flat, and painfully predictable.

                    The dude HAD the other team’s playbook, for crying out loud. Why would he not do the unexpected? Not that I want the Ultimate Baddie to win, mind you.

                    *I* would make a better bad guy (and I’m the kind who hits a bluebird by accident and then tries to do CPR on it), that’s all I’m sayin’.

                  • Crap. Forgot that I started to reply to BackSpace, and then changed my mind midstream when I realized my comment didn’t actually have much to do with what was written. Sorry about that.

                • 4 year prepper says:

                  Pissed off Granny
                  The Bible states from the beginning of the Bible with Joseph in Egypt to gather into the storerooms during the years of plenty for the lean years. Drought. Now it is tornadoes, hurricane, flood, war earthquake or any reason that can stop supply to the grocery stores.
                  Why do people have homeowners ins. if they hope their house is not going to burn down. Car ins. if they or someone is not going to total their vehicle. Health ins. if they hope not to get sick. Prepping is insurance against the unknown. It is also Gods instructions to his people.
                  Thus sayeth the Lord: “The prudent man forsees difficulties ahead and prepares for them while the simple go blindly on and suffer the consequences”.

                  “Go to the ant you sluggard and learn from them.”

                  ” A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest and poverty will come on you like a bandit and scarcity like an armed man.”

                  These are just a few examples of Gods wisdom to those who have ears, let them hear what the spirit is saying.

                  I am sure there are pastors on this site and many others with a lot more knowledge than me. Maybe someone will answer your question better.

                  We have to eat anyhow so Mother Hubbards cupboard won’t be bare.
                  “For everything there is a season.”

                  4 year prepper

            • Lone Ranger:

              I look at most everything on the internet and somehow got to this site.

              The one thing I saw there was that your pope now has been taken over by the folks who are running the One World Order.

              I think that statement is true, however, I believe it happened a long time before this pope.

              Would like to hear your opinion on that. Thanks.

              • Hi Pissed Off Granny,

                According to what Christ has told Maria, the current Pope is the False Prophet, who in the Book of Revelation, will work to actually destroy the Church and who will align himself with the Antichrist once he poses as a charismatic person of peace after a terrible war in the Middle East..

                The False Prophet will attempt destroy the Church, Maria was told, by changing the Sacraments under the guise of uniting all religions as one. He already changed the Rite of Baptism and Christ told Maria he soon will issue a directive that will eliminate the Consecration of the Mass, that is, there will be no more Transubstantiation, which is when the bread and wine become the Body and Blood of Christ.

                Many will deceptively agree to these changes which either covertly or overtly will eliminate any reference to Jesus Christ and His role. Soon, through other deceptive changes, the False Prophet will eliminate the Eucharist.

                As for the new world order that I prefer to call the old world DISorder, Christ, in His Messages to Maria, warns her of “the new world organization” and its agenda of unilateral control over food, energy, currency, and much more and it is clear from what Jesus says in the Messages that for now the Antichrist is operating behind closed doors but will soon emerge as a peacemaker in a war that will involve 7 Middle Eastern countries.

                The Antichrist, Jesus told Maria, is out to destroy two groups of people: the Jewish people and all Christians.

                Finally, since 1967, Masons have infiltrated the Church, specifically the Vatican, and there has been evidence, I am shocked to say, that some priests, bishops, and cardinals, have engaged in occult practices because they permitted themselves to be swayed to the dark side, if you will.

                Everything I have said here is all connected to the old world disorder.


                Because evil is that which destroys. Satan wants nothing more than to destroy you, me, and all others who come to this site, and “turn” people, no matter who they are, no matter what their station in life is, no different than the fictional character Darth Vader was “turned” from the good side of the Force..

                Keep your eyes on the False Prophet and watch what happens when after posing as a person of compassion he makes even more changes in the Sacraments so that the Real Presence of Jesus Christ becomes eliminated!

                By the way, St. Francis, before he died, was given a vision of an imposter pope who takes his name who will lead the church to apostasy and he told his followers he was horrified.

                The Third Secret of Fatima that was NEVER revealed, that was supposed to have been revealed in 1960, was revealed to Maria about a month or so ago and it is this: that in the End Time, there would be two popes at the end, and that the reigning pope would be the false prophet who would set out to destroy the Church by leading many into apostasy.

                As I have stated before, the Messages to Maria are meant for the entire planet, whether you are Lutheran, Methodist, atheist, agnostic, Muslim, Episcopalian, etc.

                When Jesus returns which WILL be in OUR lifetime, He will throw into the Lake of Fire the Antichrist and the False Prophet and all those who forsake His mercy after which Heaven and Earth will MERGE!

                Thank you for your question! I was honored to have been asked it.


                – The Lone Ranger

                • Lone Ranger:

                  I thank you for answering my question. However, your answer just brings up more questions in me.

                  If your church has been hijacked(and it has) what are you personally doing about it? Do you have discussions with your local priest and congregation about what your membership could and should be doing to change things, or are these subjects persona non grata?

                  You say Maria says the anti-Christ (Satan) is out to destroy two groups: Christians and jewish people. It is my understanding that jews do not believe in Jesus Christ; making them anti-Christians. Have you read the jewish bible, the talmud? The things they say about Jesus Christ in that book makes satan rub his hands in anticipation of having a huge following once he re-appears on earth at the tribulation. So, why would the anti-Christ be out to as Maria says destroy “all jewish people”? You cant have it both ways, Lone Ranger, you are either for Christ or anti-Christ. If your religion does not believe in Christ you are anti-Christ. Satan is anti-Christ so the people who are anti-Christ is aligned with the devil. So half of Maria’s statement about the devil coming back to destroy two groups is not true. So, I cannot believe the message that she received concerning this topic came from the Lord that I know.

                  Hope you see this post and am looking forward to your comments.

                  • Pissed off Granny: Every item just about that he posted as Marias messages from Jesus etc, are simply a vast compilation of most everything I have ever read related to or concerning those Very issues. Satan-antichrist-nwo-false popes-etc etc. Masons entered vatican etc etc.

                    It is ALL info that has already been written of by Many, Many writers at Many websites I have seen and Read in the last aprox 20 yrs since I first went Online with the internet and a computer.

                    It sounds to me like this “Maria” is One slick operator, thats takeing such vast amount of already availabe online info like I have read, and she Re packages it into her own Version of “The Lord spoke to ME! and He told ME to tell YOU, blah blah blah”

                    The more posts I read by “lone ranger” the More I wonder has He ever actually READ any of the Bible? Because surely any normal sane adult or even a Teenager who Has read even a few psrts of a bible will quickly recognize that Maria is no more than a Scam Artist, Swindler, earning Big Money probobly from her “Prophetic” Visionairy website. How anybody can compare her Rantings to the actual Biblical verses and not see how true that is is somebody I cannot comprehend.

                    I Hope Lone Ranger guy Reads at least the new testement verses related to BEWARE of False Prophets! as there are numerous such verses salted throughout the bible books.

                    ps, Granny I agree you are 100% correct that what Maria says on Jews And christians are the main targets of antichrist?…What You said granny is the factual truth.

                    Jews do NOT believe in Jesus period. Talmud is rampant with Vile spew and terrible words about Jesus Christ as well as All Christians who talmudic jews Hate more than All Others bar None.

                    Not certain which group is worse? Maria type delusional followers? Or all them bless the jews jewdeochristian fools?….Maybe they are Equally deluded eh.

                    PSS I posted a Two Part posting closer to the Top on This article, about that 27 page PDF article on True israel and timeline of ancient israels 10 tribes travels to end up in New Israel aka America! You may like reading it perhaps.

                  • 1- What I am personally doing about it is publicizing about it and informing others, both online, offline, in print, and verbally.

                    2- Most local priests follow the Vatican but I know of several who WILL hold Mass underground once the False Prophet makes those changes, despite the persecution all priests will undergo. This persecution has already began in Egypt and other Middle Eastern countries.

                    3- Maria does not say the Antichrist is against Jews and Christians, Christ Himself has told her that. All she is is like being a stenographer.

                    4- The REASON the Antichrist is out to destroy the Jewish people is because Satan knows the Jewish people were God’s chosen people AND that God still very much loves the Jewish people, so Satan will do ANYTHING to HURT God and ONE way of a MILLION ways to do that IS to do everything it can to DESTROY the Jewish people.

                    5- Jewish people do not believe Christ was the Messiah; they believe He was only a prophet and they still await their Messiah. That does not make them “anti-christ”. Because God loves everyone, and this is explicit in the Messages to Maria, He excludes nobody BUT He makes it VERY clear that those who align themselves with evildoers and the Antichrist will be cast into the Lake of Fire which is Hell.

                    6- As for Jews not believing Christ IS the Messiah, Jesus told Maria that during THE WARNING the Jewish people and everyone else will know that God exists, that CHRIST ALSO exists, and They desire EVERYONE to be in their Kingdom.

                    BUT because each of us has free will, each of us will have the following option: to take ownership of one’s sins and ask for forgiveness, OR, to NOT ask for forgiveness and thus align one’s self with the Antichrist which will mean or result in spending eternity separated from God who is Love and separated from all your Loved Ones in Hell since Hell is fire and eternal tortures and the absence of both Light AND Love.

                    Just so you know, because there are individuals here who malign me here without having any basis in fact, I have an undergraduate degree in Theology and one of my Masters degrees is in Pastoral Studies. So I am well versed and studied in both the Old Testament and the New Testament. I was VERY reluctant share that because I do not want you or anyone else for that matter to think I am bragging because that is now how I was raised.

                    I ONLY mention that because 1-2 people here have been quite slanderous and defamatory toward me without having any basis in fact. I can only conclude from that they feel very threatened by the Messages and I don’t know why, since we all are sinners and the only Perfect Person got crucified!

                    The Message that was published TODAY, Monday, 9/9/12, was EXACTLY on point about what has been happening both in Syria, in D.C., and elsewhere in our country. If you have any time help yourself to reading the past 10-20 Messages; I think you will find them fascinating. Keep in mind that no matter if a person is an atheist, agnostic, Christian, Jew, Muslim, etc. etc. the Messages are intended for ALL.

                    Thank you again!

                    – The Lone Ranger

            • Lone Ranger, hiding behind your magic piece of paper won’t stop bullets or boots.

              I don’t need an internet fortune-teller shyster website to tell me what to do. I read the Bible for myself. You need to get away from that website immediately and start reading the Bible.

              If “Maria” was so interested in getting her message out for free, why is she charging $12.99 for her e-books? That’s more than I’d pay for a hard copy at the bookstore. She should be giving away the e-books. And she’s charging over $20.00 for hard copies.

              I don’t plan on being a casualty either. I don’t think any of those “multitudes” of foreign troops will make it as far as my neighborhood.

              • Pissed Off GRanny: I’d like even just One of those Pre-Trib Rapture folks to explain Why have Hundreds of Millions of Christians from russia 1918 to Mao’s Kommie China 1940, right Up to Todays vast array of christian folks from china to Africa and in Mid east syria and Palestine regions who were Killed, or are in the process of being harmed or killed Today even.

                Were NOT Raptured Before it got so Bad?

                Does Any sane folks really think if those several Hundred Million Dead christians, just during the Last 100 yrs! Were still alive or could come back to speak to us today, would Not tell us how Badly they fell for porpaganda like “You got zero to worry of as the Lords going to Rapture You all out Before its gets that bad!”

                And how if possible they would speak from their Graves today to WARN christians “Do NOT fall for Lies as we all did! Make preps and remain ever Vigilant so you can Fight against Evils and wrongs!”

                Pre trib folks claim always, rapture is Immanant as it can occure at Any time without advance warning etc.

                So then Why did Jesus Himself say that a couple things Must First happen prior to His return? #1 great apostacy and #2 man of sin aka antichrist will be Revealed to entire world. THEN Afterwards can the Lord return. And he returns ONCE only. Not in “secret” as His return comes with the SHOUT like voice of an archangel, and Blinding Light of Tuth! so that the entire worlds peoples Shall SEE Him at His return!

                Does That sound like a “secret” return?

                I don’t know which delusion is worse? the Pre Trib rapture nonsense? or that Falshood taught of “Bless all jews” misinterpretation of a few Genesis Verses to abraham?

                I Rekon Both are equally a farcical spin of falsehoods eh.

                Indeed…Why Prep at All if they will be Raptured away before it gets that bad?

                Tell that to all them Other nations christians so brutally exterminated. Murdered in Masses, by those Very same Bolshevik Zionist Jewish Kommies some here so Love to “Bless”!

                And the Lord spoke! and said “Go Forth! and Bless every evil Communist jewish bolshevik Murderous Sinagogue of Satan Tribal member You can find to Bless”!

                And 50 Million usa idiot falsehood believers said, Amen!

              • You know, Archivist, that’s exactly what George Bush, Jr. said of our Constitution, “It’s just a gosh-damned piece of paper!”

                And then he set forth to destroy it through the UN-Patriot Act the effects of which we continue to feel or experience through the NSA tracking our I.P. addresses, bugging our phones, photographing us at red lights, and much more.

                I also don’t recall you posting anything about the piece of paper the president said was his Birth Certificate.

                You have free will!

                So you can believe whatever you choose to, as I am sure others who have read the Seal believe different than you. I support you right to disagree and have your own view.

                But when Almighty God, the Author of the Universe, the Giver of your life and mine, because both of us are still breathing, issues a Protective Seal or Prayer the likes of which we have never before seen and for which there is a Scriptural reference, because He WILL decisively defeat the Antichrist, it is no longer a piece of paper, sir, it is as much a Promise and His Word as are His Old and New Testaments. That’s not my opinion, sir, it is what I have read in the Messages.

                I’m glad you don’t plan on being a casualty! If I were King of the World, I’d stop any and all casualties! But I’m no such King, I’m just a fellow traveler on this journey we call life, struggling to out think and survive all the evils and sufferings that this site talks about as a service to protect and defend human life, not destroy it.

                In short, the Prayer known as the Seal of the Living God has something attached to it that is not tangible: a Blessing with a Power that will be seen once Martial Law becomes declared after The Warning, which many believe will be soon after the Ison Comet comes to our galaxy in either November or December of this year.


                – The Lone Ranger

        • 4 year prepper says:
          @Lone Ranger

          I did not download your website you mentioned. Don’t need it. I follow Gods instructions in Ephesians 6:12 and put on the full armour of God. He is my present help in trouble. He will not suffer my foot to be moved. He that keeps us will not slumber.
          IN all things give God the praise, honor and glory.

          4 year prepper

      19. Guess we’ll just have to deal with it,
        and to hell with the verminous scum that got us here.

      20. If I were to wake up in the hospital today after the last 20 years in a coma and turned on the news to see what I had missed, I think, I would tell the Doctor to put me back into a coma.

        • LOL.

        • Yeah, I might tell him to just gimme the air hammer right between the eyes.

      21. General Orders of a Sentry.

        1. To take charge of this post and all government property in view.

        2. To walk my post in a military manner, keeping always on the alert, and observing everything that takes place within sight or hearing.

        3. To report all violations of orders I am instructed to enforce.

        4. To repeat all calls from posts more distant from the guard house than my own.

        5. To quit my post only when properly relieved.

        6. To receive, obey and pass on to the sentry who relieves me, all orders from the Commanding Officer, Command Duty Officer, Officer of the Deck, and Officers and Petty Officers of the Watch only.

        7. To talk to no one except in the line of duty.

        8. To give the alarm in case of fire or disorder.

        9. To call the Officer of the Deck in any case not covered by instructions.

        10. To salute all officers and all colors and standards not cased.

        11. To be especially watchful at night, and, during the time for challenging, to challenge all persons on or near my post and to allow no one to pass without proper authority.

        • Straight out of the handbook.

        • 12. To protect government assets with my life.
          13. To defend the oil and financial assets of private companies.
          14. To kill old ladies and children for disobeying my irrational orders.

      22. Stay alert,stay alive and keep buying…

      23. now I think I understand….MAC IS A FONDA SYMPATHIZER…a regime has to be stopped, through men women and childen,, or they will be taught to kill MORE again……kill all of syria,,,god will take his keep and satan will collect his……just like what is coming in the US……….SORRY MAC, but that is what i see….

        • think about it — I hope MAC has more clairvoyance
          than myself, because I did think about it, and what
          I think is that you are shooting from the hip and
          you don’t understand shit.

        • think about it, Mac is not a fonda sympathizer and no you don’t understand anything. You don’t know how to “THINK”!

        • Problem is, Think About It, is you would be trading one tyrant (Assad) for an even worse tyrant (al-Qaeda). And while you are doing your “liberating,” you just killed another 100,000 souls. As a further result of your “liberating,” China and Russian are added into the mix and your resulting world war just killed 60,000,000 people. So who is the tyrant now?

          You can’t meddle in war…you either go to win or you don’t play the game…America has been a meddler since Vietnam.

        • think about it ……Too bad Mac doesn’t have a “Middle Finger” smile since you are nor worse any response.

          Mac…please add a Middle Finger option for such idiots.

      24. How do YOU plan to fight in an urban warfare setting. The battlefield is very fluid. Avoid being flanked or split. Single or multiple attacks on stationary positions. Then yourself. How much ammo do you carry. A sidearm. Fighting knife. Canteens or Camel Back for water. Tack Vest, MOLLE A.L.I.C.E. What level Body Armor. Kevlar or Steel Pot for a Brain Bucket. Add the weight of you main battle weapon.
        Think what is best for you. How your gear fits and if it fits the mission of staying alive. All the stuff that you think you need will be dropped the first mile of your walk.

        • Sling shot ,
          Good choice in gear ! Typical light infantry load out I would add the additional
          1. Canteen cup and stove for last ditch water purifying
          2. Katadyne pocket filter in but pack attached to LBV
          3. Load out .223 (9)- 30 rd magazines US GI with green anti tip follower loaded with 28 rounds on LBV when loaded full you can run into seating problems.
          4. Load out if .308 180 rounds in 10 round stripper clips half on LBV half in ruck
          5. body armor good source INFIDEL BODY ARMOR better than what I was issued !
          7.internal frame ruck for your gear KIFARU point man, ELBERSTOCK terminator my choice,
          Make sure they have quick release straps!
          8 poncho that can be used as a temporary shelter US GI USSUE are the only ones that will hold up do not skimp on quality.
          9. Space blanket heavy type with grommets and green surface to be used to conceal hootch from FLIR detection , suspend above position as cover do not allow to contact your body this will lower your IR signature from above dig a ” Ranger Grave” to further reduce signature.
          10. All of the items listed by slingshot above only purchase high quality items they tend to be more durable.
          11. Good footgear I am partial to DANNER products .
          12. all of your other items to match conditions of your AO , sleeping system , outer ware etc.
          13. I you can afford it NOD’s PVS 14’s GEN 3 with ITT pinnacle tubes are going down in price consider them a force multiplier they are essential for night time movement.
          14. FAST ( future assault shell technology) level III helmet by OPSCORE this already has the bracket base for your NOD’s attached they also allow hearing protection to be worn PELTER TACTICAL HEADSET are designed to integrate with this helmet they are the cats ass! And can be accessorized with lights , covers etc for mission configuration.
          15. Mission orientated equipment ie GHILLE SUIT , optics etc. HINT provide KILLFLASH system on all optical systems you will thank me later ! nothing like have a mortar division lobbing rounds your way because of a glint off your tactical optics or gear , ASK ME HOW I KNOW. When patrolling keep your glasses in your pocket.


          All of the above items have saved my bacon in the past there are many items that can help in the field I encourage you to study , ask questions and evaluate your need on an individual basis .
          Use only what’s necessary to accomplish your objective ,weight is a common enemy remember ounces=pounds=pain try to keep your tactical pack below 45 pounds maximum. Try to distribute your Fighting load evenly on your LBV , remember you are going to have to run , drop and sprint with this.
          Only take the MINIMUM Items required for the field.

          It may all come down to you as an individual to survive long enough to gather with like minded individuals to form teams to benefit future generations not born yet , the gift of LIBERTY.
          No greater reward exists than this.

          A Failure of Civility , Mike Garand and Jack Lawson ( highly recommended)
          Resistance to Tyranny Joseph P, Martino
          Boston’s Gun BIble , Boston T. Party
          Holding Your Own Joe Nobody ( highly recommended)
          More advanced, books by MAX VELOCITY

          Get all the professional tactical school training you can afford while it is still possible .

          As I write this FOX news is announcing China and additional Russian ships have arrived in the MED opposite US naval forces off the coast of Syria. The next few days may become interesting to say the least.


          Semper Fi 8541

          • Thanks, Night Breaker! And slingshot. I saved your posts to a text file. I’m fortunate to have a preserve within walking distance from the house, so I do 4 hour hikes with a full pack. It weighs from 42 to 45 pounds. Trying to get ready for whatever…

            • Mark.

              I had to scale down on weight and came up with this arrangement. I modified a Chinese 4mag chest rig to accommodate further attachments. Bayonet and First Aid unit. Carry three mags and the forth mag pouch is for a signal flare, two chemical lights, Magnesium fire starter, water purification tablets, 6in. hemostat, Medical scissors and a small can of bug spray. Two liter camel back which I can attach a small pack for rations.
              Good set of boots and socks. Use Jogging shorts and cotton T shirt. Camo billed hat. Netted mosquito gloves.
              Cover over with Leaf Cammo Guillie suit which is like netting.. Then paint up my face to walk the hunt camp roads for hogs. Use single point sling to carry rifle. Since it is hot here,the suit is very breathable and use evaporation to cool off. I can use shaved ice, 50% in the camel Back on real hot days.

        • I don’t plan to fight in an urban setting as I don’t live in the city. I tried living in a big city once. I lasted 4 weeks and had to leave.

      25. Know yourself. Know your friends. Know your weapon. Know your environment. 😉

      26. Hi all! I feel so behind reading and trying to absorb as much as my brain can since I stumbled (or led by God) to your website yesterday. I’ve been hemming and hawing for a while now if I should start prepping and I finally started today. I still have a looong way to go and I very much appreciate what everyone has shared here – no words can express my gratitude.

        Lone Ranger, I have not heard of Maria Divine Mercy. Any recommendations where I can get more info? Or I can just google her. Not to sound rude or anything like that but is she legit? I don’t want to be praying a prayer from a false messenger.

        Also, I think I’m misunderstanding something here – prep and prep as much as I can but suggestion is also to head out somewhere rural to avoid city meltdown? What about the stuff I’m stockpiling? Sorry to be confused… Much thanks for any help/advice given my way.

        • Eclipse, welcome aboard, and yes you have really arrived late to the game but glad to see you decided to do it. do your due diligence. Focus on storable foods, water, water purification items, medical supplies, a high-quality fixed blade knife, camping supplies, heavy-duty clothing, boots, especially boots with Thinsulate insulation and waterproof for the winter coming up, extra socks, underwear, especially the long handles, a good parka with water-resistant material, guns, ammo, etc. if you already have guns and a sufficient supply of ammo, you’ve already won half of the battle. on leaving an urban area, if you have relatives in a small town or rural area, that would be highly advisable. your chances of survival will go through the roof. any other questions you have on survival-related topics we’ll be glad to help you with. best wishes and get cracking. braveheart

          • Thank you! I got some more stuff today and will plan on adding to it each day. Not to mention praying to God for protection and courage and for leading me to useful sites such as this.

        • Hi Eclipse,

          1- If you go to http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com and just click on the button that says MESSAGES, you can read the Messages given to Maria by Christ and the Blessed Mother. The best way I can describe it is she like a stenographer who takes everything down and then someone publishes the Messages at the website.

          2- Eclipse, since February of 2013 when I learned of Maria, I’ve read and studied all the Messages, more than 700 in total.

          3- Just read them. More than once. More than three times. Read them randomly if you want. I’ve done that a few times myself. They will speak to you and your own faith life– whatever your faith or religion is. Over and over again we are told the Messages are meant for every single person on our planet.

          4- As far as prepping goes, I really don’t have “a lot” of those things I listed. I just have some of the basic stuff. I started with a can here, a box there, etc. It’s good to find people to stick together with because I don’t think any one person can “have it all” as in an endless supply of whatever!

          5- If you are in a city, be ready to bug out or leave if the banks fail, or if martial law is declared, or if gas starts to become scarce. The reason many here at this site favor leaving the cities is because you will have a lot more options and freedom once you are out of the city once any of that crap (or all of it) hits the fan. You will also be a lot safer.

          Can any one else here offer some helpful words to Eclipse?

          • Thanks, Lone Ranger. I have been to her site and I am praying for guidance from the Holy Spirit. The Bible usually comes to mind when I’m reading about visionaries and seers and will remain as my source for the true Word of God.

        • Eclipse: Good thing you found us here yesterday! Because once we all become Invisible by The CULT of Marias Seal of god….You wont be able see us let alone Find us!

          Gee one would think so powerfull of a cult leader as Maria and her seal is, would also be able to Provide free food and ammo etc if she can make us Invisible right.

          I bet marias HQ address is Directly across the street from that Cult of Fatima bunch.

          One selling fake seals, and across the street, another selling various sized Mary statues with more promiced miricles attached to each then you can count.

          • Silly Them Guys–when one is invisible, one gets all the food and ammo one wants.

            • JayJay: Good point! This Cult leader maria reminds me of when I saw Preacherman Pat Robertson on some Fox TV show a few yrs ago.

              Fox news guy was asking Robertson about his vast claims that God “Spoke” to robertson etc. Pat R. hemmed and hawwed a little and the fox guy reporter keep pressing for an answer.

              Then Pat R. says “Well God speaks to me and tells me things and then I tell others” etc etc.

              That fox tv guy kept pressing and finally came out and asked Pat R. “Are You saying to me and millions watching this news show that You actually hear Gods Voice? What does God sound like Pat? Is a deep mans voice or what?”

              Then I swear…Pat robertson after a short hesitation, told that fox tv guy “Oh Yes! God speaks to me in an adubile normal type voice same as we two are speaking back and forth!”

              The fox tv guy asks “And just how Often do you hear this voice from God Pat”?

              Robertson then says “Well its only while I am awake of course! So I’d say during my awake time every day, God speaks to me about once Every Hour! Every Hour I am awake daily!”

              Sounds alot like Marias 700+ Messages eh! And some are from Mary too!

              Like God sits around all day every day and alternates between speaking to maria and Pat Robertson every hour On the Hour! Gee we can set our wrist watches by that eh!

              How can anybody possibly believe such crap? Yet many must do so as just look how vast Robertsons net worht is, last I saw/read hes a Billionaire!

              I realize many folks are Gullible…But Come On.

              I bet, I just Bet that Maria woman has at least a few messages that advise folks that Mother Mary Is the ONLY way they can be saved…Same as fatima cultists promote non stop. You’d think they can see their bibles say

              There IS but ONE name alone which one can be saved by…And its Not Mary nor maria nor pat robertson.

              That single one name Is Jesus Christ…Period. Your bibles Says so. So who ya gonna believe?

              Man I wish I had something to SELL so many deluded fools!

              Gotta go as I think I just seen my Neighbor pass by Invisably!

              Oh Wait! Incomming! its a Voice! getting Louder! The Voice says “hey Them Guys post a reply and tell Maria and all cultists that if she don’t stop useing the Lords Name in Vain promoting Falshoods shes going straight into that Lake of FIRE! as Soon as I arrive!”

              • I’m confused. Where were your comments when George Bush claimed that God was directing him?

                We all know where THAT went! He LIED about weapons of mass distraction, TANKED our economy, sent MANY of our young men and women to their deaths in needless wars, and more!

                Where was your bravado back then?

                Where was your self-righteousness back then?

                But you won’t talk about that because YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

                If you COULD handle the truth, you would have taken on Bush, his stinking war, his lies, and much more.

                If you could handle the truth you would take on the president’s shabby, unfounded arguments to further weaken our country, our economy, and our military.

                You sir, are a bully.

                Instead, all you do is make fun of someone’s faith and it’s not just mine.

                The more you make fun, the more that fear fills you. Fear is from the Evil One.

                My trust is in our God and I am not ashamed to say that, nor will I make any apology for it.

                “I might be despicable, but when Truth speaks through me, I am invincible.” – Gandhi

                – The Lone Ranger

                • Lone Ranger: You ARE Delusional!!! YOU have Fallen Under the Spell of a Jezebel!…Now you are Mixing apples vs oranges with that gw bush craopla. Has zero to do with that Fake maria nonsense.

                  You do not know what I have said about Bush and his fake gods speaks to gw etc.

                  Have you ever even Read a bible at all? Perhaps you Should! Pay close atten to parts that WARN of False Prophets and “See-ers” like that maria chick!

                  I wont bother with such rediculous spew any longer. Later fool.

          • Them Guys, I actually laughed out loud when I read your first paragraph, then I thought I cannot judge this lady because I am not perfect either. I hope and pray that people will not rely heavily on these modern day prophets regarding the end times but just to go straight to the source – the Bible.

            • Eclipse: yes I agree we cannot “judge” others. However…Christians Are supposed to Learn how to Discern truth from falshoods, And once able to discern we are Mandated by the Lord to Reprove(out them) and Rebuke(scold falshood tellers etc).

              So there is quite a difference between Judgement, and Discernment and followup with reproveing and Rebuking.

              I am discerning and rebuking falshoods so far from biblical truth it is not even funny.

              Glad you got a good laugh! Glad to see you awoke to current situations etc too!…You will do swell after reading what you wrote in last post to me says. Hope you remain here and keep adding posts.

        • Pray to God directly in the name of Jesus. Nobody else matters. Prepare as much as you can but be prepared to hit the road if you need to. Hide some supplies in different places so you will not taken by surprise. Have a Bug out Bag in case you need to run. Read some older articles in the archives and you will begin to gain some confidence.

          Good Luck!

          • I agree on both counts. People seem to be deeply entrenched on whether or not they will leave immediately or stay and fight until the very end. We have a fairly good setup here in this small city on a rise between a river and a lake. The house doesn’t get cold when the power goes out and there is plenty of food and fuel in the public woodland behind the house.

            Nevertheless, if we had to walk out of here with only the baby stroller the first cache along the rail trail between here and the solar powered, wood heated retreat is less than a day’s walk and near an abandoned building on state property. The next one is near a church where we can spend the night.

        • 4 year prepper says:

          Pray to God only and to His only son Jesus Christ. No one else is needed. As a matter of fact, there is no one else. Thou shalt not have graven images. Or false Gods.

          4 year prepper

        • Eclipse,
          Someone else here posted this URL. It’s a good list you can get ideas from:

          Mr. James Wesley Rawles has a “list of lists” available which is an Excel spreadsheet. You have to have Microsoft Excel to read it:

          Mountain House foods just happens to have a really good sale on long-term storage food right now. You can buy it from safecastle.com, campingsurvival.com, beprepared.com, and other vendors.

          Good luck. You’ve found a good resource here to help you along!

      27. This might be a little off topic, but it chimes in to the general discussion here.

        Local Schools will be busing “our” children to an undisclosed location during any Event like a “Terrorist Event” for there safety.

        So they will take our children, somewhere???
        then let us know where they are…???
        then we will have to turn in our guns and preps if we want our children back????

        this is BS….they have already asked for fingerprints and rental scans for are kids at the local school, I refused!!!! and did not sign up for it…

        So they took his thumb prints and palm prints anyway…thumb scans are now mandatory to get your lunch, even when you pay for it…

        time for home schooling only!!!
        God help us all!!!!

        • I haven’t heard of the scenario in which children would be bused anywhere. I have been in education for 10 years and during an emergency I am required to stay at my station and help out until released…just like police and fire. All teachers are required to stay to ensure the safety of the children. I can guarantee you this, though, if I even caught wind that kids would be bused somewhere “safe”…I would take as many kids as possible and get them the hell out of dodge until their parents can get them. There is no way, on my watch, that any child will fall prey to the system.

          But, I highly doubt this would happen…there aren’t nearly enough buses to haul all the kids. I’d comfortably all BS on relocating kids, but that’s just my opinion.

          • I don’t believe this will happen either. But I do believe you will do whatever they tell you at gunpoint.

            • Maybe you are correct…but having thrown myself willingly in the “line of fire” to protect the well being and safety of others before, I’ve got to hope that God would grant me the strength to do it again.

          • I agree, even though my kid isn’t doing public branwashing school, I do know that they use the same group of busses for the kindergarten thru 5th grade kids, than the same busses for the 6 thru 8 th grade kids and than finally same busses for the 9th thru 12 grade kids,, theres no way they’d have enough busses for them all..and I know some of the older kids would run

          • I know that it might not be happening in your area!

            But hear in the pacific northwest of the CONUS, it is a fact.
            ever since the school shooting back east!
            they have had dozens of meeting and a flyer/ email was sent to all parents regarding “busing the kids to an undisclosed location for there safety”

            when anything happens to the schools or kids up here, they send out texts to all the children’s parents, this is part of the schools new system.

        • This is my take on those thumb prints for getting food.
          Some guy(s) in administration of that district/county got a kickback on that project. Somehow, somewhere, money changed hands.
          The school system may have even been paid to use this system.

      28. It’s a pity we even have to consider this all a possibility. Now and then I look around me at folks I know, gaging their knowledge of what is going on, and I can’t help sizing them up as either a potential survivor or a casualty of the coming mass die-off.

      29. Who Is Going To Buy The US Debt If This War Causes China, Russia And The Rest Of The World To Turn On Us?

        Submitted by Tyler Durden on 09/07/2013 – 15:51
        Yesterday we implied a difficult question when we illustrated the huge size of US Treasury bond holdings that China and Russia have between them – accounting for 25% of all foreign held debt – implicitly funding US standards of living (along with the Federal Reserve). The difficult question is “Can the U.S. really afford to greatly anger the rest of the world when they are the ones that are paying our bills?” What is going to happen if China, Russia and many other large nations stop buying our debt and start rapidly dumping U.S. debt that they already own? If the United States is not very careful, it is going to pay a tremendous economic price for taking military action in Syria.


        • The shell game is almost up. Americans are maxed on credit. They cannot afford anymore shit from China.

          The elite are prepping us to live in a lower standard of living.
          Just look at todays fashion…everyone wears ripped jeans…so we cannot tell who is poor and who has a job.

          Things will continue to get worse. The US will get like south America…

          Too many people.

          I’ll just says this… one day the elite will wake up one day and live in fear as they will see they’ve gone too far.

          You cannot continue to turn a population into debt slaves.
          One day….something will snap.

          All the factories have left the US never to return.

          We bought a double and use the rent to buy food.
          Our friends who used to laugh at us in their McMansions….now are living with their parents…..they lost their home. IT will continue to get very very bad.

          Ron Paul… over 60% of his savings are in silver and gold….WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU. The dollar is fucked. Prepare well.

          I predict you’ll see some bad shit go down in LA or Oakland, CA
          The place is getting like a third world country.

          Funny Obama keeps blaming everyone else….

          We all are to blame.
          If you drive a foreign car….fuck you.
          If you buy foreign foods…fuck you.

          Get the point… we continue to ship our wealth overseas.

          Further a jaded media brain washes us too.

          it’s a big shit sandwich and I just hope ww3 does not come in my lifetime.

        • “””Who Is Going To Buy The US Debt”””

          Anyone see a problem with this phrase? See, right there.
          The one that says buy our debt??
          What kind of sociopath would buy things on credit and then sell the debt to a loan shark??

          • The best reason to start ww3 with China and Russia is so we can write off the debt we owe them. (If there is a good reason.)

      30. Oil of Oregano. Look it up, excellent addition to fight off disease. Just as good as any antibiotic & your body doesn’t become immune to it. You can get it at GNC. Read up on it. Excellent addition for any prepper.


        #HghschoolUSA onFOX playing right now in the Cedar Rapids…Mac…

        • FOXADHD.COM

          • TV14! WTF! I don’t even have cable!

      32. #axecopFOX

      33. Hey Mac, We the People need another one of these promoted after college for President!


        With my States Pride I send this…


      34. Here’s our threats I feel.

        1. Bee die off…..better take this one serious. I plan on planting collard greens….at least I’ll have something to eat.

        2. Currency devaluation…the USD has fallen 44% since 2000. I’m almost 50. So my adult working years have seen the currency cut in half.

        3. Crazy weather from geo-engineering. chemtrails as some call them. The sky is now white and we live under a heavy metal oxide haze….and thank God. If it were not for all this shit overhead…all the plants would burn from the UV. THE OZONE IS GONE. I’ve ready many articles on this… My generation was the last to see true blue skies. My 90 year old grandmother used to comment on how blue the sky was. So my eye are not that bad.

        4. The elite are engineering a pandemic. The codex Alementarious sp? is designed to weaken the body and then the shit they will release will have a more effective herd kill rate.

        Bad times are coming…things will not get any better.

        • The honeybee is not native to the new world. If they all died, the plants wouldn’t notice. There are plenty of native insects to pollinate plants. Plus most of the native vegetables are pollinated by the wind. That’s why you can’t plant popcorn near your sweet corn. I would miss the honey, though.

          You can plant anything you want. If insects are scarce and the wind doesn’t seem to blow enough, you can hand pollinate your vegetables.

          I don’t know where you live, but I just went outside and checked and the sky here is as clear blue as it ever has been. I don’t know that I’ve ever seen a “chem-trail.” We have military jets and commercial jets, but their contrails disappear the same as they always have. Do you live in a big city?

          The main problem I see with the Codex is that it will ban nonprescription sales of medicinal herbs, vitamins, and other over-the-counter medications. So I’m growing my own as much as possible.

          And like I’ve said before, you haven’t seen inflation like the older of us have seen. Bread was 10 cents a loaf in the mid-1960s. Cigarettes were 25 cents a pack in the early 1970s. And a haircut in the big city was 75 cents in the early 1970s. So I’ve seen the dollar go to a twentieth of its value 40 years ago.

          Here’s a joke:

          When I was a kid, my mother would send me down to the corner store with a dollar, and I’d come back with five pounds of potatoes, two loaves of bread, three pints of milk, a pound of cheese, a packet of tea, and half a dozen eggs.

          You can’t do that now.

          Too damn many security cameras.

          Don’t you feel better now?

          • Archivist:

            Plenty of chemtrails in Oregon.

            Read an article on the internet a year or so ago about a group from Mt. Shasta, California that did a study on the affect of the chemtrails on their plants, wildlife, etc. in that area. They took their findings to DC. They took a video of their time there. Showed them interviewing Feinstein who told them she would have her staff look into it. Video showed my wonderful senator, Ron Wyden, running up a staircase to avoid them.

            Wonder how TPTB is avoiding breathing the same air we do that is being sprayed. I sent a letter to Wyden and the rest of my? reps asking them the same question. Got another “thanks for your interest” reply.

          • That’s how much your lunch cost? Pretty good.

        • Collards, cabbage, kale, and beets are all good cool-weather crops that are easy to grow and they have many phyto-chemicals in them that promote good health.
          Good luck.

        • Attract mason bees and other native bees. They won’t give you honey, but they will help with pollination, because they’re more resistant to Colony Collapse Disorder.

          Pollination by hand is possible. There’s a place in China where all of the plants have to be pollinated by hand, with the aid of a chicken feather duster. It makes their food VERY expensive.

          Also, you’ll help the bees immensely if you give them a diverse diet. They’re being weakened by malnourishment from monoculture. If all you had to eat was only one single food for weeks on end, you would be very sick, too. If we plant LOTS of tasty flowering plants for them to pollinate in a smaller area (instead of acres and acres of just one single kind of plant), they stand a better chance of having the best assortment to eat, and the best chance of keeping themselves healthy and helping ward off those horrible Varroa mites (which prey on weakened bees), too.

      35. In bad times….if the power goes out….war, sickness and so on…
        You’d beter have something to keep you warm.

        I put one of these over our child when the power was out for a few days and kissed her on the head and she dropped off to sleep in peace. Save, warm and loved.

        Time to invest in some practical prepper items that will last for decades.


      36. Assad is not a “mad dictator” and the “rebels” are foreign-sponsored Al-Qaeda militants, the same ones we’re getting told did 9/11!

        It’s all a zionist scam at this point.

        Watch this video of islamist US- and israeli-backed rebels besieging an ancient christian city in syria:


        The FSA “rebels” are the ones doing war crimes in front of cameras on a constant scale, such as eating the hearts (!!!) of enemy combattants.

        Anyone calling Assad a “dictator” is a goddamn fool and disinfo shill.

      37. One thing that strikes me about this site is many of the people who leave comments are incapable of objective and rational thought. There is an extreme bias against anything any government official says. If Obama came out and said the sky is blue, many of you would immediately label it as a lie. Your “false flag” mentality is not only ridiculous, but dangerous since it makes you incapable of discerning fact from fiction. As I read the crap put forth here and the wild, idiotic and pathological conspiracy theories propagated, three things come to mind. One, I was came across a saying attributed to Mark Twain. The saying goes; “People tend to believe anything I tell them, except when I tell the truth.” You people believe all kinds of crap that is not anywhere near the truth. Two, I am reminded of Goebells’ “Big Lie”. The crap you people believe are big lies. For whatever reason, the human psyche seems to be wired to believe the outlandish not supported by facts and evidence rather than simple truth. Hence, the success of the big lie. The third thing you idiots remind me of is a statement made by Tommy Lee Jones’ character in the movie “Men In Black.” The character said “A person is smart, people are stupid”. The meaning being that an individual examining the facts will think more rationally and intelligently than a crowd. That is what is going on here, mob psychology and the end result will be similar to the mindlessness of the post Rodney King verdict but on a much larger scale and many innocents will be caught in your idiocy. I can, however, take small comfort in the knowledge that many, if not most of you will fall victim to your own stupidity if SHTF. Your tribalism will result in your tribes turning on each other and attempting to destroy each other. Unfortunately, again, many innocents will suffer because of your delusions. If you people really cared about the country and your families, you would spend more energy trying to prevent a SHTF scenario because a post SHTF scenario will not be pleasant at all for your families. Unfortunately, you would rather live in your deluded, Rambo wannabee world.
        Now, having said that, this article is one of the few that are actually accurate, There will be large numbers that will die in a true SHTF scenario. And a whole lot of preppers will be among them because of the inability to accurately assess problems. Also, many preppers will die because they cannot keep their mouth shut and are telling everybody they are preppers and have guns and ammo and other supplies stockpiled and have as their stated objective to eliminate undesirables. By loudly and proudly stating their objective to eliminate perceived undesirables, they have made themselves targets of preemptive actions by more discrete preppers in the event of SHTF.

        • NC joe

          And I assume General Wesley Clark was making up everything he said about the plan to take over seven Middle East countries shortly after 911?

          There is far too much at stake for the US and the powers to be to react to events. These moves are pre planned and then incidents are created to justify the actions. Anyone find those missing WMDs in Iraq yet? Franklin Roosevelt said, “Nothing in politics just happens”, “If it happens it was meant to happen that way”. His statement, “Presidents aren’t elected they’re selected” holds true too.

        • Spoken by the GOD OF THE UNIVERSE.

          Go away, you atheist babbling troll.

          • NC JOE:

            Your BS might have worked on some of us a couple of elections ago. Gonna be a hard sell now.

        • NC Joe

          You think General Wesley Clark fabricated the story about the US plans to overthrow seven Middle East nations shortly after 911?

          How many times do you get lied to before you become suspect of the source? Seen those WMDs in Iraq yet?

        • NC Joe

          Do you think General Wesley Clark fabricated the story about the plans to overthrow seven Middle East countries shortly after 911?

          How many lies do you need to hear from a source before you doubt the validity of their statements? You found the WMDs in Iraq yet?

        • @NC joe…… You need some professional help. Please seek help or just STFU.

        • As a non-native spokesman for the group- On behalf of the 8 1/2 million other people of the good state of North Carolina (many of whom are admittedly quite insane) let me say-

          Admin Note: Genetic science is working feverishly to see that this does not happen again.

          • I know some of those insane ones. I hope NC Joe doesn’t live anywhere near me, as I can foresee an ass-whoopin from somebody eventually. He sounds like he lives in Chapel Hill though. You wouldn’t believe how many loonies live there. Back when I was in college, I was walking through campus to Franklin Street. I saw someone running towards me. He stopped, out of breath, and asked me if I had any weed for sale. I told him no, and he continued running through campus. He didn’t know me, whether I was police, a narc, or what. He was desperate for some weed.

            • You should have told him Yes I know who has weed, just gimmie Your cash and Wait here cause I cant take strangers to the guys crib!

          • Once again, “my edumaction” is enhanced by “SmokinOkie”. All this time I was under the impression that NC Joe was “short hand” for NO CLUE JOE!

            Thanks for clarifying that it actually represents a “genetic” malformation/aberration/representation from a particular state.

            No harm, no foul North Carolina…every state has “their quota” of fools.

        • Ncjoe, f#$% you! If you hate our site so much, why do you keep coming back? Since you have blind, unquestioning faith in government, go to the MSM sites and go f#$% yourself! It’s your heroes in government that are ruining this country and are going to get people killed, NOT US!

        • I agree with your last paragraph, NC joe…

        • Roberts has been blasting corrupt Administrations before Obama too.

        • Impeachment would be nice, but he’s doing exactly as hes told..thats why not a dam thing will be done about him unless the people get up and do it

      38. Has anyone tried any of these? Does anyone have a list or recommendations of home remedies for ear infections?

        21 Home Remedies for a Toothache

        It is important to note: If you have a toothache, there is a reason for it and it’s best to have it taken care of by a professional as soon as possible, rather than having it treated at home in hopes that the underlying issue will go away on its own. If it’s infected (if your gum area is swollen), don’t delay in getting professional medical care.

        Directions: Apply the below remedies directly to both the problem tooth and surrounding gums unless otherwise directed.

        For items that direct you to chew, or for liquids that are to be swished around inside mouth, direct the liquid on and around the sore tooth as much as possible.
        Do not swallow liquids. Rinse your mouth and spit them out when done.

        1. Salt Water: Mix a heaping tablespoon full of salt in a small glass of warm water; swirl around inside your mouth for as long as you can, spit out. Repeat as needed.

        2. Hydrogen Peroxide: Swoosh a bit of hydrogen peroxide. If the taste is too horrid for you, try diluting with a bit of water.

        3. Alcohol: Swoosh a bit of whiskey, scotch, brandy or vodka. A strong mouthwash that contains alcohol will do the trick too.

        4. Vanilla Extract: Saturate a cotton ball with vanilla and hold in place. Can also use a cotton swab dipped in extract. Other extracts that have the same effect are:
        Almond Extract, Peppermint Extract & Lemon Extract

        5. Tea Tree Oil: Just a drop or two will do the trick. You can also add some to a cotton swab and hold in place or add a few drops of tea tree oil to a small glass of lukewarm to warm water and rinse your mouth with it.

        6. Oil of Oregano: Mix a few drops with a bit of olive oil, then saturate a cotton ball with mixture. Can replace the olive oil with lukewarm water if preferred.

        7. Apple Cider Vinegar: Soak a cotton ball with apple cider vinegar (ACV) and hold it in place. Can also try regular household vinegar.

        8. Ginger Root: Take a fresh piece of ginger and chew it a bit.

        9. Garlic: Take a clove of garlic, smash it and apply (settle it inside cheek). You can also mash some garlic with salt.

        10. Peppermint Leaves: Chew on fresh peppermint leaves. You can also use dried leaves, just hold them in place.

        11. Potato: Cut a fresh piece of potato (raw, skin off) and hold in place. Can also pound a piece of raw potato, mix in a bit of salt and use the mash.

        12. Lime: Cut a slice or wedge of lime and apply, bite into it if you can to release some of the juice.

        13. Onion: Slice a piece of fresh onion and hold it inside your mouth. The onion needs to be freshly cut (so it provides a bit of onion juice).

        14. Plantain: Chew up a fresh plantain leaf. If you’re too sore to chew, use the other side of your mouth. Once the leaf is macerated a bit apply it to the problem area and hold in place.

        15. Cucumber: Slice a fresh piece of cucumber and hold it over the sore area. If refrigerated, you might want to bring the cucumber to room temperature before using (if sensitive to cold) otherwise a cool piece can be soothing.You can also mash a piece with a bit of salt and pack it around the sore tooth.

        16. Cayenne Pepper: Make a paste with cayenne pepper and water.

        17. Black Pepper: You can use this full strength or make a mix of pepper and salt.

        18. Baking Soda: Take a cotton swab and moisten it with a bit of water, dip it in baking soda (coat the swab really well with baking soda) then apply. You can also make a mouth rinse by mixing a heaping spoonful of baking soda in a small glass of lukewarm to warm water, dissolve the soda then swish the mixture in your mouth.

        19. Cloves: This is remedy from the old timers (my great grandparents), rest a clove against the sore area until pain goes away. You can also use a drop or two of clove oil (BE CAREFUL: too much can be toxic) or make a thick paste of ground cloves and water or ground cloves and olive oil.

        20. Tea: Make a fresh cup of tea then take the used tea bag (still warm) and stick it in your mouth. Careful not to tear the bag. The tannins that are naturally in tea leaves can help numb things.

        21. Ice Pack: Cover an ice pack with a face cloth or towel then hold over your cheek where the problem is. This will help numb things. Make sure that you have some type of cloth between your skin and the ice, otherwise you can severely damage your skin. If that doesn’t work, try the opposite–a hot compress (making sure that it is not so hot as to scald your skin).

        One old time remedy that you should NOT follow is to place an aspirin against the sore tooth. You will have just as much if not more of an effect by swallowing the aspirin. Aspirin is actually an acid (acetylsalicylic acid to be exact) and placing it directly against your gums or teeth will cause corrosion of your teeth and acid burns on your gums.

        Survival Life dot com

          • I can’t remember the brand, but there are little packets of strips that melt in your mouth to relieve sore throat. I put one of those next to the place that hurt and it helped.

            Chloraseptic mouthwash used to numb anything. My brother had a splinter in his toe that my mother couldn’t remove with the tweezers. She soaked his toe in Chloraseptic and operated on his toe with a sterilized razor blade. He slept right though it.

        • tea tree oil,

          haven’t used it for toothache, but am using it diluted with water in a spray bottle for fleas.

          frontline and common insecticides don’t seem to work anymore on the buggers.

          of course our eyes are all watering because tea tree oil is VERY potent.

        • 4 year prepper says:
          @KY mom

          My husband went to his doctor with a bad ear infection and of all things he told him to use the medicine for athlete’s foot. It is a small bottle—1/3 fl.oz and works like a charm. It is available OTC.
          The drug store in our tiny town does not stock it, but they call the larger store in town and it is delivered for pick up the next day.
          (The word prepper is underlined in red again)
          Needless to say I keep it on hand all the time now. That ear that gets the infections is the one a fireball went into and burned a hole in his eardrum when he was in the Navy and they had an explosion aboard ship.

          4 year prepper

          • 4 Year Prepper,

            What is the name of this medicine?

            Thank you!
            KY Mom

            • 4 year prepper says:
              @KY mom @ Mac

              On the bottle I have it says:
              Athletes Foot Solution
              Choltrimazole Topical Solution 1%
              10m (1/3 fl.oz.)

              The doctor that recommended this is a ENT specialist. I can personally say it worked wonders for my husband in a very short time. You only use 2 drops a couple times a day in each ear. (don’t actually remember what the Dr. said)

              The drug store I purchased it from charges $12 + tax. Amazon charged $9.25 + S&H. The picture is the exact one I have in my preps. It will say it is for ear infection. If you google it you’ll find out it is available anywhere almost. I checked in Wal Mart but could not find it.
              Hope it helps. I love helping my fellow preppers as they have helped me in more ways than I can count.

              @ Mac
              I love Tess’s prepper cookbook. It is in my hand constantly. I have several others, but this is the best there is. Tell her to print more ways to add “this and that” to stre-e-e-e-e-etch food further. I will mention it also when I am on her Ready Nutrition site.

              4 year prepper.

              • 4 Year Prepper,

                Thank you!

                I am trying to learn about and stock different items that will treat common infections like these.

                Take care!
                KY Mom

        • @ KY mom – for ear infection mix olive oil with crushed garlic and mullein flowers (if you have them) to make ear drops. can also put a cut potato behind the ear to help speed healing. oregon grape tincture by mouth as a great natural anti-biotic that is safe for kids, but can cause yeast infection if too strong or too often.

          mullein grows wild most everywhere around your area; our flowers have stopped already. but, you can order dried ones from most any herbal site.

          • kimintn,

            Thank you for this information! I have never heard of mullein flowers. I will find out about them.

            Take care!

            KY Mom

        • Dont’ hijack the thread please

        • #22 tooth ache remedy…Just ask Louie Da Thumper to smack that tooth Hard and knock the sucker out!

      39. I went over twenty years without going to the dentist and relied entirely on salt water, hydrogen peroxide, ice, and Orajel. There were some sleepless nights when my wisdom teeth came in and a couple teeth broke off during that time.

        Then I got married and my wife sent me to have the broken teeth removed (all in the back) and a few cavities filled now they get cleaned and inspected every six months.

      40. Really WW3 is a lot about Russia and losing huge amounts of revenue and the U.S. losing the petro dollar. The two collide with each other like two immovable forces that will not and cannot budge on either side. BO doesn’t care and actually wants the welfare state of the U.S., so maybe BO and the U.S. are the ones to back down. Putin actually wants Russia to continue to bring in revenue and cannot allow this pipeline to go through Syria.

        Michall Snyder has a good article decribing this:


        • Thanks BI. Knowledge is power.

          • @Tactical,

            Knowledge is power, but DIS-INFO IS NOT. 🙁

            Dis-info is a tactic used to misdirect your enemies.
            Get it Tactical? 🙂

            None of the ” Be informed ” is useful for me, I don’t read his postings, just happened to read a short one.

            • Folks, one million trolls on the internet are doing the DIS-INFO WARS.

              Who could correct them all ????
              Or when they are out to attack conservatives in force. 🙁

              Tactical, you intentionally left the tactic of the DIS-INFO out, did’nt you?

              Whenever people complained about the ADL or others,you DID NOT do so against these plutocrats, and you FAILED to mention that “knowledge is power.”

              It sounds to me like it’s a DOUBLE STANDARD that you guys have been using for several centuries.

        • @ Be informed,

          WW3 will NOT be about the pipeline, but it will be THE LAST WAR OF ALL WARS.

          That’s true “The two collide with each other like two immovable forces that will not and cannot budge on either side.” as you said, and it takes one to know one. This is how they create GOD and MAGOG game/prophecy. 🙁

          You sound like Hillary’s cheerleader. It’s a much bigger picture.

          It’s not only Obama’s project, people’ve said he just follows the blue print.

          And it’s not Bush’s fault either, okay?

          • The American people clearly stated NO PROXY WAR, period.

            Today the Associated Press said, “U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry, talked with members of the Arab League Peace Initiative following their meeting at the United States Embassy in Paris, Sunday, Sept. 8, 2013. ”

            These politicians are not truly Arabs; they are Sunnis Muslim Brotherhood who were well selected by the NWO.

            This is not the U.S.’s war, but it’s John Kerry’s, Chuck Hagel’s (former Aipac’s lobbyist), politicians’, the main(ex)stream media, and AIPAC’s WAR. 🙁

            AIPAC is convincing the American ppl to support its war. 🙁
            Kerry has been very actively trying to convince the world and the Republicans to go for this. Based on Fear and Kerry’s intel reports, Republican politicians might just do so.

            With The U.S.’s military, Israel will take over Syria, and will replace Assad with the Muslim Brotherhood.

            Currently, the COSTS of operating the destroyers & carriers are extremely high, not to mention the costs of loosing our defense force as our General MARTIN DEMPSEY 🙂 as he has warned his bosses (Mr. Chuck Hagel, Obama, senators) and Israel !!!!!!

            • I bet the Real reason israel is so gung ho on syria war is alot more about Water israel desperatly lacks sources of. Don’t syria already supply like 40% of israel fresh water supplies? Think I read that somewheres?

              • @ Them Guys,

                That must be the reason why they want to confiscate the chemical weapons, hmmmm.. Your info. is very helpful, I’m sure KERRY and AIPAC will take it into account. Kerry will always be grateful for your analysis. 🙂

                However, the rebels already said they used chemical weapons in some of the videos.

                People are saying there is no benefit for president Assad to attack his people or make his people turn against him.

                Who would benefit the most if ASSAD is replaced???
                The majority agrees that it’s the NWO !!!!

                Since they are afraid of Assad’s loyal people will release chemicals in the water supplies when their leader (Assad) is gone.

                Their fear is that socialist France Holland, Kerry, Obama, the U.S. military chief Chuck Hagel will “ENGAGE, LOCK and LOAD” like the ex-president SARKOZY (France) DID IN LIBYA. 🙁

                Right now they are working on the big picture, and only a few pieces need to be replaced.

                If you and the masses are concentrating on one piece of the puzzle, then we’re all screwed.

                🙂 Link to follow:

      41. I think people will die more quickly than the author does. I expect mass suicides of men killing their families and then themselves. I expect a lot of people to die from thirst or from drinking bad water. Sure, you can boil water but people who are thirsty or don’t have materials to boil it will just take their chances. It happened a lot during the Civil War. It will happen again here.

      42. The world was tribal since the beginning of mankind. For a good reason. It was what kept the people alive. You know not what is in the hearts of strangers. You must stand in the breech, shoulder to shoulder, lest the invader enters and takes all that is yours, including your family. Black flag time. Run it up the pole.

      43. Well, at least ammo is more available lately, meaning more range time, meaning, at the very least, some comfort in knowing that a few well placed shots might buy a few more minutes time on the planet when all hell breaks loose!

        That said, the best strategy in my mind is complete avoidance of conflict, getting out while the getting is good. Having lived in hurricane country for many years, I always find it interesting how so many ” brave” people choose to ride it out. Most of the brave people are first timers and have not a clue what to expect, hence ” hurricane parties”.

        So does this mean when SHTF, we’ll have “bank holiday parties” or, ” martial law parties”?

        I won’t know, because by the time that happens, I’ll be at the ” retreat”. Here is hoping most of you do have some relatively safe place to go.

      44. I just shake my head at all the people who think they’re going to “live in the wilderness” and “live off the land” in a SHTF scenario. Yeah, you and anyone who’s ever watched Survivoam or Bear Gryliss. Ever been in the woods (or mountains)during hunting season? Now magnify the number of people by a factor of about 100x. Everything you think you’re going to “live off of” will be decimated in the first few weeks.

        • Also note that BG, Survivor man and alike while very educating and entertaining but they also have medical care and help only a few yards from them and in worse case can be air lifted. Longer term in wilderness without typical healthcare = death.

        • “CRITTERS” will adapt more quickly than homo sapiens. Only true “hunters” and “trappers” will ultimately reap “nature’s meat”!

          Remember, “the critters” don’t watch the idiot box. THEY don’t follow a man made script and will “apparently vanish” very quickly.

          Those with the proper knowledge and experience will KNOW where to find them. And “those” will not be sharing that experience/knowledge with the “golden horde”.

          Once the “horde” has long since given up, or as the article implies…DIED, nature’s bounty will still remain. As a supplement, hopefully not a mainstay.

          • I’ve read several accounts of scientists studying prey animals tagged with tracking devices. They have noticed hunters (also being tracked) pass within a few feet of the animal and not seeing it. The smart animals learn quickly and the dumb ones don’t make it. Likewise, the dumb humans aren’t going to make by living off the land. They won’t be able to find the game and they’ll eat plants that are toxic. There are already plenty of folks doing both things on a regular basis but we have back up support to save them.

          • Suburban lawn rabbits are in for a real wake up call.

            • Back in the 1960s when our area went from Farm to Suburb the rabbits kept away from people. Now they let you get within 10 ft before hopping just a few more feet away. The kid with the crossman air gun will be taking their toll on them.

      45. “There is a season for everything under heaven” It feels like the time to “live” is almost up. I am not a fatalist just a realist. I am going to keep trying, today I am fasting for peace and understanding and a bloody miracle, and I am going to hope one more time that we as humans can learn to live without judgment or “eye for an eye” mentality. Look deep inside and know we can change all that is happening if only we work together. Instead of giving the Syrian people a l million dollar bomb, can we give then our hearts and love instead, how much would that cost?

      46. @ Shootit and lastmanstanding. Here are some records of cattle/cows acting bizarre before earthquakes:

        1755 Lisbon superquake- Cattle very exicted, also ground covered with billions of worms, several days before

        1805 Naples, Italy- Cows mooing like crazy, swarms of locust and ants in total confusion

        1906 San Francisco- Cattle come down from the hills, dogs howl in large numbers

        1907 Pakistan- Cattle, horses, dogs very exicited

        1920 China- Strange behavior by cows, dogs, wolves, and chickens

        1964 Alaskan superquake- Cattle leave all low pastures and head for higher ground, obviously aware of the coming tsunamis

        1975 China- Cows ramming each other

        1979 Italy- Cows moo and dogs bark excitedly

        This is a small number of examples of cows going nuts hours, days or weeks before a major earthquake strikes. There are many accounts of cattle, oxen, goats, and other livestock going nuts before earthquakes throughout European history from Greece to Rome to modern examples. Watch the animals, they know and feel the micro-movements and other precursors leading up to a major quake. The USGS knows and why they are setting up monitoring devices up and down the New Madrid.

        • …and it’s not just livestock that change behaviors before a natural disaster. Pets and wild animals go nuts during the same period as well.

          In the Mt. St. Helens 1980 eruption, wildlife was fleeing the area in the days before the blast. I was up in Puget Sound at the time, and I traveled back and forth from NAS Whidbey and Portland almost every weekend. Deer don’t usually try to cross I-5 near Battleground, but there were plenty trying at that time. Even birds leave the area.

          From what I learned, if you have a pet that starts making more noise than they usually do or tries extra hard to hide under stuff or get outside, you might have a problem.

        • BI, you can add cats to that list also. I lived in Adak, AK twice. Dad was stationed there when I was a kid, and then later when I was in the Navy myself. Our cats would always go nuts wanting to go outside anywhere from 30 seconds to a couple of minutes before the quake hit. That’s not much warning time, but it is enough for someone to get outside before the shaking starts.

          On a personal level, please keep up the warnings you give on areas under threat from quakes. Every little bit helps.

          • You must have been on the military base there—did ya get the chance to see one of those “white-outs” coming over the water? Eery sight isn’t it?

        • 1967-White folks acting Very Nervous, 2hrs later one Million Negroe African Black hoards begin to Loot-Riot-Burn Dwon 1/2 of city called, Detroit.

          1968-Chicago-DNC convention..White folks actibg Very Nervous, 2 hrs later, Hoards of Savage African Blacks begin to Riot-Loot-Burn Dwon Chicago City.

          1992-3-L.A.Kalif..Cops get set Free after Rodney King civil rights abuse by cops trail ends. 20-Minits later, over one million African Savage Black Hoards begin to Riot-Attack All Whiteys-Kill several Whiteys-Loot-and Set enough Fies that the Space Shuttle Astronauts are able to see it from 23,000 miles Up in Outer space regions!

          2013-N. Dakota..Fed Up 61 yr old White man, Paul Craig Cobb buys a home and 12-lots sight unseen! Pays Cash, $8600.00 total for home and 12 lots, plans are to set up a Nationalistic White home Base city. Currently city has 19 reidents, plus Mr. Cobb who also plane to change city name to “Cobb City”.

          SPLC-Jewish Racist Seperatist Hate group Organisation, interviews one mixed race couple that reside in the city. Mixed race couple do not like Mr. Cobb or his plans for White Unity. Stay tuned more to follow….

          AUG.28th, 2013
          61-year-old White Nationalist is trying to turn his small town in North Dakota into a stronghold for white nationalist.

          Paul Craig Cobb, a White Nationalist who lives in Leith, N.D., is quickly buying properties in the small town, which has a population of 19 people. Abandoned houses are scattered throughout the desolate town and there is only one storefront business for miles.

          “I didn’t have a clue who the guy was until he showed up. All I know is he bought that house sight unseen, $5,000 cash, and had no idea what it looked like, where it was, other than he knew the directions to get to Leith,” Mayor Ryan Schock told the Hatewatch blog, which is a media project by a civil rights group called the Extremist Hate-Group Southern Poverty Law Center.

          Cobb hopes to turn Leith into a haven for whites.

          Ultimately, he wants White Nationalists to take over the country and control the government. He also hopes to rename the town “Cobbsville”.

          Tenants of Cobb’s properties will be required to fly a “racialist banner”, such as the White Nationalist flag, on a daily basis. They would also be required to become legal residents of the state for voting purposes, as well as join his recruiting effort to attract “radical, hard-core” white nationalists.

          North Dakota is already 90 percent white, and Grant County – where Cobb currently lives – is 97 percent white, according to the US Census. But for Cobb, the racial diversity in his state is still too high for him to be satisfied.

          “Imagine strolling over to your neighbors to discuss world politics with nearly all like-minded folk,” Cobb wrote last year in the VNN. “Imagine the international publicity and usefulness to our cause! For starters, we could declare a Mexican illegal invaders and Israeli Mossad/IDF spies no-go zone. If leftist journalists or antis come and try to make trouble, they just might break one of our local ordinances and would have to be arrested by our town constable.”

          SPLC’S, Mark Potok, editor of the Intelligence Report and Hatewatch blog, said people should be concerned about Cobb, since “he’s one of the most vicious White Nationalist activists around.”

          • Sorry for a few spelling errors in above post, I broke my eye glasses, had to duct tape glasses to fix!

            Just WHAT & WHO is that, SPLC-Hatemonger Racist Kommie Org anyways? I will Tell you!

            The Southern Poverty Law Center (abbreviated as the SPLC) is an extortion racket and Europhobic hate group, promoting cultural Marxism and Jewish supremacism located in Montgomery, Alabama, United States. The SPLC has two primary purposes; it serves as a business orientated, money-making scheme for millioner Morris Dees. Secondly, it acts as a propaganda vehicle to attack opponents of cultural Marxism and Jewish supremacism in the United States and is particularly engaged in a racial campaign against European Americans, their social, cultural, religious and economic interests, as well as their represented leaders. The means in which it propagates this is through the mobilisation of Freudo-Marxian newspeak, developed primarily by the Frankfurt School– known as political correctness.(FYI=European Americans, means, White Folk!)splc is Rabidly anti whiteys.splc is pure jewish bolshevik communisim same as Trotsky, Lennin, and Stahlin were).

            It is almost identical to other cultural Marxist and Jewish supremacist milieu groups, such as the ADL of B’nai B’rith and American Civil Liberties Union. The SPLC has tried to put across an ambiguous image to its de facto Jewish group interest nature. It was founded by Morris Dees and Joseph J Levin–the former a cosmopolitan mercenary accused in court of child molestation,[1] the latter a confirmed Jew. The current SPLC president J Richard Cohen is also Jewish, as is its main media representative Mark Potok. The SPLC have positioned themselves as enemies of freedom of thought, speech, association and empirical inquiry in the United States.

            Money-making scheme

            The group has been criticized as a moneymaking scheme to enrich its founders. Some criticisms have focused on its fundraising methods. For example, a 1996 USA Today article claimed that the Southern Poverty Law Center is “the nation’s richest civil rights organization”, with $68 million in assets at the time (in the fiscal year ending in 2003, its assets totalled $156 million). A 2003 article in the Fairfax Journal (of Fairfax, Virginia) claimed that 89% of income was spent on fundraising and administration. (Raise funds and admin, means kommie jews pay selves massive paychecks by Swindleing unsuspecting donater folks, addicted to typical msm spew praising this subversive kommie bunch of modern day Bolshevik Zios)

            The SLPC was set up in Montgomery, Alabama in 1971 by Morris Dees and Joseph J. Levin Jr.

            Some organizations described by the SPLC as hate groups object strenuously to this characterization of them. One nationalist group VDARE for example, insisted that the SPLC’s actions were doing more harm to anti-racism than to genuine racism.

            They published an article attacking Metapedia called “White Nationalism Aryan Encyclopedia Takes Off” in late 2007.(Yet splc never complains that wikki pedia is censored and controled by jewish folks similar to those at splc. They are against a white folk run info center webiste that tell’s Truth!)

            The CRUX of SPLC-Inner Working’s & Operative Kommies…

            Summary: 2010
            Of the twenty-two(22) Southern Poverty Law Center senior program staff members, fifteen(15) are Jews. This is a numerical representation of 68%. Of the thirteen(13) Southern Poverty Law Center directors, eight(8) are Jews or have Jewish spouses. This is a numerical representation of 62%. Jews are approximately 2% of the U.S. population.* Therefore Jews are over-represented among the Southern Poverty Law Center senior program staff members by a factor of 34 times(3,400 percent), and over-represented on the Southern Poverty Law Center board of directors by a factor of 31 times(3,100 percent).

            www dot unityofnobility dot com /2013/08/28/61-year-old-white-nationalist-buys-up-town

        • Thanks BI…as one who has worked, played and lived outdoors most of my life, I watch the flora, fauna and watershed daily…an plan accordingly.

          Things are a bit out of wack…all plants, animals, etc. always adjust to survive. I just can’t put my finger on it…but it seems like there has been a shift in the seasons of about 3-4 weeks.

          Frankly, I think that has been done by evil bastards with rotten plans for those of us that want to be left alone…but then again, I am only a simple man.

          If I have any revelations, I’ll be sure to share it with everyone here.

          • Lastmanstanding.

            I have noticed the shift in seasons also. Very weird.
            We use to have the usual migration of Canadian geese. Now they stay here year round and congregate around the water retaining ponds. Hundreds of them.

            • Same thing here…geese all over the place. Our cut grain fields are full of them now…thousands.

          • LMS,
            Haven’t noticed anything just lately that might be an earthquake indicator, however, over time, I’ve seen lots of changes. I used to see lots of salamanders, especially after a good rain. Now I never see any at all. I used to see quite a few horned lizards (“horny toads”), and now I never see any. Small toads used to be so numerous that many would be run over every night on any given suburban street. Now there is hardly ever a squished toad in the street. I used to see velvet ants only in far-west Texas (Big Bend), and lately I’ve seen quite a few as far east as Louisiana.
            There are few hickory trees in East Texas now, and they used to be quite numerous there. There used to be so many Chanterelle mushrooms (Cantharellus cibarius) that I could pick a grocery sack full in the Fall. Now they are rare. The blackberry and dewberry (Rubus spp.) vines used to be just full of plump berries. The vines and bramble-canes still grow, but I don’t see so much fruit. I used to see quite a few persimmon seeds in deer shit, and now I seldom spot them in the poop.
            Things that are growing now more than ever: Chinese Tallow Trees, kudzu, Mustang grapes (useless) and Muscadines, and water hyacinth.
            I could probably think of many more changes in flora and fauna, but those above I think of immediately.

      47. @ Be informed-we live 60 miles nw of New Madrid, appreciate any and all intel that you provide. Sitting back and trying to learn,and follow your advice. Monitoring horses, dogs, cattle. No strange activity at this time. Everything seems to be on their normal feeding patterns. Thanks again.

      48. @ JOKER in NC that made terrible insults to everyone on an asinine commment above.

        The Syrian debacle is a LIE. It is a false flag. BO and Kerry are lying whom is responsible for this. You would support BO whom supports rebels that EAT people, and kill and maim innocent Christians that have done NOTHING. You support BO for this?

        It is ALL about the two oil pipelines, AND the petro dollar. One from Qatar through Saudi Arabia through Jordan, then through Syria IF in western hands to Turkey. The other pipeline is through Israel to Syria again IF in western hands to Turkey. This KILLS the Russian economy IF it goes through. The U.S. is losing their influence for other countries to sell their oil using the U.S. dollar. Iran started this and it is rapidly gaining steam with other OPEC nations. Without something to back the U.S. dollar, the U.S. economy dies as there is nothing to hold the U.S. loans up anyway.

        I don’t see BO over in North Korea threatening air strikes there, and the North Koreans commit MUCH worse torture and death over there. NO energy influences. I don’t see BO over in other countries like central Africa, or the sub Sahara region trying to save anyone there from massacres.

        I get so sick and tired of trolls bad mouthing the good people here that have opened eyes to what is actually happening in the world. You worship BO like he is the next God, and he is just the typical politician that would sell his morality and decency per ounce quicker than you could say the word CROOK. Telling all of us that we would dismiss it if BO told everyone the sky was blue. Accuse us of being naive. IF BO told the public that Canada was arming themselves and ready to march over into NC, people could sure see you take your rifles out and try to shoot anyone with a Canadian license plate.

        I suggest you wake up and see the truth of what is actually going on over in Syria rather than listen to the propaganda driven filter main stream media that it is all about those people that have been gassed why the U.S. is ready to start war. Anyone with a little bit of common sense must say to themselves this is pure horsesh&%. Ask all those in areas that don’t have energy resources or some geopolitical strategic importance to the U.S. where BO and the U.S., total hypocrites, rushing to their aid like the cavalry to save them from genocide.

        • Be Informed:

          Couldn’t have said it better myself but didn’t want to waste my time on this commie, aethist, babbling troll.


        • BI as always Thank You for taking time to spread the truth.

        • Amen to that, BI. No resources…no political importance for the world rulers. Therefore, no real concern for human suffering.

      49. everyone really does need to read Paul Craig Roberts latest column

        “In the 21st century Washington has treated its own citizens the way it treats citizens of third world countries. Untold trillions of dollars have been lavished on a handful of banks, while the banks threw millions of Americans out of their homes and seized any remaining assets of the broken families.

        US corporations had their taxes cut to practically nothing, with few paying any taxes at all, while the corporations gave the jobs and careers of millions of Americans to the Chinese and Indians. With those jobs went US GDP, tax base, and economic power, leaving Americans with massive budget deficits, a debased currency, and bankrupt cities, such as Detroit, which once was the manufacturing powerhouse of the world.”

        and ESPECIALLY this line

        “How long before Washington shoots down its own homeless, hungry, and protesting citizens in the streets?”


        how long ???

        because God knows
        they certainly have been preparing for exactly that scenario
        haven’t they???


      50. When I read the posts on this site sometimes I wonder why y’all have’t learned to agree to disagree which is how it looks to me, only a few hold steady and at least try to keep a good thought and give others who read this site a helping hand. Calling names and using 4 letter words isn’t going to help anyone. I come to this site to read what people who are far wiser then I have figured out to keep as many of us alive when the time comes, and find those posts to be invaluable, the rest of the fighting and BS not only is a waste of time and space but useless to anyone except the poster to try to assume a leadership role and take up space.

        Wish there were some way to filter out the trolls and idiots then I could read this site in far less time then it has been taking. I read less and less as I need to put my time into preppin and most of you do too. I’ve learned a lot from this site but will visit less often from here on in as the craziness is unreal; to the normal human. I can’t take anymore sleepless night thinking about all the grim things some of you post.

        I pray, prep, and hope for the best I can’t do any more that that.

        • mallardhen,

          Perhaps you should pick up the bible and let that be your guide. In the bible you will find all of the answers to your worries and questions.

          The people who post here, myself included, are mere mortals who have their own personal opinions about many matters that plague our country and the world. Just because someone writes something, does not necessarily make it true. Not one of us can predict what exactly will take place on this earth and when. Some who post are more emotional than others and unfortunately some post with the intention of scaring or insulting the readers. Most who post here are honest and simply want to share their concerns, seek others opinions and advice.

          Know that God will guide you in the right direction if you just relax and read his messages.

          Philippians 4:6-7

          Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

      51. Selco’s messages are always quite sobering. And he sure seems to know what he’s talking about, having been through a real life-or-death shtf.
        Still, most of us have done about all we can. We’re now in ‘continuation’ mode. Replace what gets used up. Pick up a reminder or two (like slingshot’s comment on first aid/med supplies) and, when possible, wake up a last minute sheep. But that’s about it.
        JRS mentioned this(way back up there) to quit worrying, pull a cork and relax. Best danged advice I’ve seen on the internet…anywhere….EVER! (even better than the instructions on how to re-time a ’39 Desoto, and that was pure gold)

        With that in mind (relaxing, not fixing a Desoto) I humbly beg your indulgence of the following *True* story…

        {*True* being a disingenuous term used to define the veracity of said fictional account below}

        The time- 9:45pm MDT, Sept 7, 2013
        The place- Tucson, AZ and points west
        The players-
        #Lefty- a grizzled 67 yr old veteran of the Trucking Wars (otherwise known as assorted Teamster strikes during the 1960’s & ’70’s)
        #Dammit Boy- middle aged driver of unique talents, Nobody knew his real name (not even his Mama, she forgot) but he could blind-side back a set of triples into half a parking space in the dark, blow past every scale from Chattanooga to Tucumcari and never get caught, and was capable of 1400 miles without a pee break (winner of the ‘Bladder Of The Year Award’ in 1994) in other words- one hell of a driver.
        #Stella- Former truck stop waitress, age- 23 (going on 49) she’d had a rough life to say the least. Her abilities included speaking French (say la vee, Honey, you want fries with that?), suturing flesh wounds with fishing line (she preferred Zebco 4lb test), black belt in karate, and a heart of gold. Plus, she could shift a 13 speed Eaton-Fuller better than the guys who built them.
        #Other assorted minor characters who will appear when imagination requires….

        Our story opens as Lefty emerges from the bar next door to the Triple T (Tucson Truck Terminal or Truly Trashy Truckstop, whichever). His nose is gushing blood and he’s holding a cloth over his left eyebrow, and swearing. Behind him comes Dammit Boy and Stella, both backing out the doorway while holding pool cues like shotguns, pointed at an angry mob…

        Lefty: Dammit Boy! I told you not to be hustling those bikers. They ain’t from around here. They got no sense of humor.

        Dammit Boy: Well, I didn’t ask you to step in for me. They weren’t but three of ’em on me. I coulda handled it.

        Stella: Stop arguing about it! Dammit Boy, pull Lefty’s truck around front and-


        The International Commission On Internet BS (ICOIBS) has deemed this post too ridiculous to continue. All future comments from this individual will be monitored and heavily filtered to reduce their BS content. Reminder- The ICOIBS has a strict limit of 99% BS content when posting. Please supervise your posts to keep them below this threshold. Thank You.

      52. Well, I see my story about the truckers didn’t make it through the filters. Damn Nazi’s, always trying to restrict my free speech and never letting me-


        Rated at 104% BS by the ICOIBS

        • And now they won’t even let me complain about the-


          Rated at 212% BS by the ICOIBS

          • Well, this is getting redic-


            645% BS
            We obviously don’t like this guy. The ICOIBS

            • Re-route your posts through a partially active, right handed encrypted router, through an offshore Khazachistan bisector tor server while enabling cloud formation over your login name typed into the not required mail entry space. Increase text size to “coke bottle” magnification and enable notification of third party chocolate chip cookies.

              The comments will then be redirected to a packet which you can put a forever stamp on and send by the snail.

              I need to know if that last shot was a straight two rail bank or high left English.

      53. How to survive in an urban environment? LEAVE THE CITY IF A FROG FARTS!

        • What if a frog farts underwater and there is nobody nearby to hear it?

      54. Look at a map. The Gulf Aden you have the Chinese’s navy there to seal up the southern approach to the Red Sea and the Suez Canal through the Straits of Babel El Mandeb. Now; Iran and the Straits of Hormuz. Now up in the Med. We have Turkey and the Straits of Bosporous that Russia has to keep open to the warm waters their only out let on the West. Now look at what is happening. A few mines here and a few mines there or what ever.

      55. T.C.P. checkin in,

        Word of the russian booksellers/ abduction rings finally hittin here. At least it’s news around these parts. Everything is well or so it seems.

        The world is on a razors edge and I fear for my brethren especially the elderly and the children.
        Everything is ready and the stage is set folks. God Bless.

        Standing by in the heartland,


      56. Aw come on okie I want to hear about the Bladder of the Year award
        LOL !

        Semper Fi 8541

      57. Common sense vs.proof and evidence.Obama needs to be relieved of command if he violates the War Powers Act a second time!!

      58. A couple of days ago he was telling congress to ignore the American people. Now he wants our support? #$%$@jk you.

      59. It will be brutal. Most will initially die from starvation or competition for resources. In 15 days people resort to canibalism, it’s an historical fact. After the deaths come disease…dead bodies all over the place, fetted water, etc.

        Best thing you can do is load up on food and water and also a way to protect your resources (guns/ammo). Don’t trust anybody!! Strength in numbers as well!

        Patton: Its not our objective to die for our cause. Our objective is to make the other poor dumb son of a bitch die for his!!

      60. Would anyone like to give some insight into taking care of horses. Just the main points.

        • slingshot,

          What is it that you would like to know about taking care of horses? I have had horses for most of my life, I have 5 now, I would be glad to give you my input if you want.

          In case the SHTF, I have a very reliable source for hay, the guy I purchase it from is like minded and I know I can count on him. As for grain, I like to store at least a couple months worth, summer is easier because of added pasture feeding but winter can be tough and horses do need a balanced diet, they do not do well with change. Horses are creatures of habit, anything different whether it be a change in diet or environment puts them at risk for health issues.

          My main concern is bedding, it is getting quite expensive now and probably would not be available at all if things go south, I use pine shavings. Any way you look at it, keeping horses is expensive, a lot of work and commitment but for us it is worth it.

          Horses also need to be wormed at least four times a year and they need their feet trimmed every 6 to 8 weeks and or shoes. Certain immunizations are a must once a year in late spring and they need their teeth floated once a year. Like I said, it is pricey to own a horse.

          • slingshot,

            I forgot to add the fact that you need a sturdy barn that you can lock up at night, at least 12′ by 12′ stalls and a place to dump your manure, I have mine taken out twice a year. One acre of land per horse is also advisable. Lot’s of people think they can just throw a horse in a dilapidated shed and give them no more than a back yard to live in but that is cruel. So, if one can’t provide these essential things then perhaps they should not own a horse.

            • My main reason is that somewhere down the road you may come across a horse abandoned. Unlikely but not impossible.

              One more thing. It is collick. Horses here eat the grass and pick up sand which accumulates in the stomach. Horses lay down when they have to much. Is Mineral Oil the treatment?

              • slingshot,

                Serious colic can be life threatening if not treated. I was at a farm once when I noticed a young colt laying down in the field, the woman who owned the horse was a novice and didn’t realize something was very wrong. She assumed the horse was resting but upon closer inspection, the horse was laying out flat and obviously in pain. I got the horse to his feet and he then did the classic colic stance, his back legs extended back as far as he could and glancing at his stomach. I then noticed a bunch of crab apples laying on the ground and figured he ate too many and his stomach stopped working. The first thing I did was get a full bottle of mineral oil down his throat. Then I listened for gut sounds with my ear against his stomach. No gut sounds so I was pretty concerned. I had her call the vet and meanwhile I walked the horse to keep things inside him moving and also to keep him from laying and rolling over, this could cause his stomach to twist, that is fatal.

                Before the vet arrived, the colt actually had a bowel movement which was the best outcome you could have. The vet checked him and gave him a relaxant. End of story, the colt was fine, the apple tree was removed and lesson learned.

                A horse can colic from many things, overeating grain, stress, moldy hay, crab apples, toxic weeds, worms, even the weather, I have seen horses colic when the barometric pressure changes. Colic can be mild and treated with mineral oil or it can be life threatening and need emergency surgery. Horses are tough yet internally they are quite complicated, again, you need to know what to look for and how to respond, when to call the vet and when to try things yourself.

          • Swinging on a Star.

            As times get worse I have notice that many people abandon their animals. Dogs and Cats and have come across some Vietnamese pot bellied pigs in the woods.
            What I would like to know is the following.

            How much water is needed. Per day
            How much Hay and feed is needed. Per day.
            Substitutions for food, regular feed. Treats.
            What not to feed them. People food. Fruit.
            Temperature range they can withstand.
            Common disorders. eyes, hooves, muscles.
            How does one improvise for worming if you do not have the meds.
            I have rode horses before. Understand the, Fright to Flight behavior. Been kicked and almost bitten.

            My friend had an Arabian show horse and I rode his work horse. Had to get use to him for moving my feet on his side and movement of the reigns made him do turns and movements I was not expecting. I watered them and feed them. Cleaned out stalls and put in new bedding. Even washed a few. But he never told me the full amount of upkeep of the animal.

            • slingshot,

              I will try to answer each question the best I can.

              An average horse need about 5 gallons of clean water per day.
              As for hay, I buy 2nd. cut which is much richer than first cut but it is more expensive, usually two or three large flakes a day as well as pasture in the summer. Most bales of hay are divided into flakes. Mine get grain, one gets triple crown senior for feed, she is over thirty now, as for substitutes for grain, you could buy and store bran mash, oats, you can mix in molasses, raisins, carrots, brown sugar, warm water. I would not recommend that as a permanent diet though, good on a cold winter morning.

              A mineralized salt block is essential if you are feeding just hay. Grain and hay is always the best combination.
              As for treats, carrots, apples, sugar cubes is about all I would give my horses. There really is no human food substitute to feed horses. They need hay, pasture if you have it and a complete diet grain or oats.

              A horses real comfort zone is from 15 degrees Fahrenheit to 55. If you live in a snowy climate then hopefully your horse will grow out a winter coat but if the horse is a warm blood then it may lack the proper coat, then you must blanket your horse when he goes out and even sometimes when he is in. If a horse shivers then he is cold. Most horses are sturdy enough to handle below 0 temps. however they must be well nourished and not allowed to get wet. Horses handle cold a lot better than they handle heat.

              As for worming, I have never improvised so I can not give advice on that but keeping your pasture mowed and free of manure as well as the stalls will certainly curtail the infestation of worms. I use an over the counter wormer which you can store for quite a while. I also remove all manure from my pastures at least once a week and mow monthly. This keeps the flies away as well as the weeds. I also reseed my pastures every spring. I simply rotate the horses from one pasture to another.

              Disorders can occur depending on what the horse is used for. If you work a horse regularly and ride frequently then you may have to deal with muscle aches, sore tendons, hoof problems etc. there is so much to absorb about taking care of horses. My best advice is to find a working farm that you can volunteer at and learn from the ground up what keeping a horse at home and healthy entails.

              When you can look at a horse and assess his physical condition and his mental condition within a few minutes then you are ready to own a horse.

              • Copied your post. Thank you for the info. Funny I do have a friend who is in 4H. Have to give him a call. Been awhile.

              • take a look at that mineralized salt blocks label. It contains only traces of minerals. and the livestock will chew on it and damage their teeth. Instead buy loose minerals in a 50 LB bag and mix then 50-50 with loose salt. You need ten acres per horse. Divide into 4 small pastures with electric fence and rotate the grazing. Horses can follow cattle and the cattle worms wont harm the horse and vice versa. Leave the manure in the pasture and after it is grazed down scatter it with a spike tooth harrow. My free range chickens scratch ad scatter manure very well .Grain contains enzimes that are similar to drugs and effect a horses temperament. They feed race horses hot grains tham makes them like a druggie on speed. They require a lead horse to take them to the starting gate. That jockey isn’t really in control He is really just hanging on for dear life praying there isn’t a horse wreck. A horse only need,s as much grain as it takes to catch him. High Bred Grain fed horses tend to be mean tempermental and unpredictable.

            • Keeping a horse can be very expensive or unbeliveably cheap its up to you. Horses don’t really need expensive grain & a barn. The feral horses on the BLM land don’t have anything but what grows naturally. And they have thrived and reproduced so successfully that the government has to round them up and put them up for adoption Ive owned horses for 50 plus years and all grain does is cause feet problems. Native grass pasture & hay is the best feed for horses . Ive owned BLM horses that where bay with black legs & hooves. Their feet where so hard you never had to shoe them. It took a good sharp pair of hoof nippers & rasp to trim them. They where never lame sick or required hot house feed & care. they where all day horses work or ride them all day and at the end of the day you still had a horse who wasn’t pooped out. Mine where easy keepers stayed in good condition on pasture and salt & minerals. I wormed them once per year. Adopt a BLM colt that is less than a year old and gentle train it. Those Wild horses are the result of a 100 years of survival of the fittest. The Best genetics survived and passed on their genes. Stay away from high bred fancy equine unless you have lots of money to waste. The world champion trail ride endurance horse is a mustang adopted from the BLM.

              • old guy,

                I have kept horses for more than twenty five years now. I do respect what you have to say but I can not replicate what the wild horses did on a daily basis. They would travel up to 20 miles a day, they would never stay in an area long enough to get worms from manure laying around. They became conditioned to the environment and terrain so therefore they were toughened up.

                I give my horses the whole day to be outside, I also make certain that they have hay always available when inside. My pastures are picturesque because I make the extra effort to keep them manure free and also keep the weeds at bay. The first horse I owned came from a run down farm that had every farm animal known to man in with the horses, the area was less than half an acre. I ended up rescuing a big, old style appaloosa. When I brought that big boy home, he was worm ridden, underweight, sad and placid. Within a couple of months, that horse was on the road to magnificent. He ended up being the best horse I ever owned. At the old farm he was considered an escape risk, always finding a way out and ending up walking down the road. There wasn’t a metal gate that he wouldn’t push down with his but and his stall was in shambles.

                I took this 13 year old guy and made him my best friend, I brushed him, turned him out for 10 hours a day, fed him the best hay, a little sweet feed, wormed him regularly, cleaned his pasture, kept him in a clean and comfortable stall at night. After a year, he would follow me like a puppy, he was 17 hands tall. All I had to use to keep him in his stall was a length of chain that he could have walked through if he wanted but he never once tried to escape from his stall or pasture here.

                My old boy lived to be 34, he succumbed to a stroke and the day he passed was the toughest day of my life. I gave him a good life, taking the extra step to ensure his happiness and well being. That is how I take care of all my horses, I do not now and hope I never have issues with colic, I keep my horses happy and healthy.

                I won’t let them be prey for predators, man or animal, I won’t let them stand out in wet snow without a turnout blanket on and I won’t put them in a small pasture where they can’t kick up their heels and gallop. Therefore in my opinion, a draft free barn that you can lock up at night is essential for their well being and mine.

                I now have 5 horses, one old mare and four under the age of 10, the old girl is a rescue horse, she is tough as a nut and set in her ways, she is the alpha mare and just looking at her, you can tell that she is fit as a fiddle and happy to be alive. This old girl bucks and runs like a little filly. She was rescued from a kill pen 4 years ago so spoiling her is a good thing.

                • that’s all well and good. However its simply not viable in a SHTF situation. I keep my horses until they are no longer useful and send them off to become dog food. My livestock are not pets. they are simply a means to get a job done or provide food or income. Im old school and believe that if you cant shoot your own dog or shoe your own horse you don’t need either one.

            • I raise & eat those Pot Bellied pigs. I skin them and discard the fat. I take all the lean meat from the bone and grind it up into sausage. I sometimes cure the hams& bacon. they yield about 25 to 35 pounds of meat. Those pot bellies are thrifty and don’t require much room or feed. Mine stay very healthy. I put rings in their noses to keep them from rooting and let them out to graze on occasion.

              • old guy…how many pounds of feed would you estimate it takes to raise one to butcher size?

                Where do you buy these pigs?

                • I feed about a half pound of corn per day plus table scraps grass clippings ect. if fed too much potbelly pigs get obese. Probably about 150 pounds of corn from piglet to butcher size. I used to get them free. Around here there are small caged animal sales and goat & sheep auctions. I reciently bought a mature potbelly boar for $17.50 They usually have a few pigs, horses donkeys lamas there. You could advertise on craigs list?

                  • Thanks old guy…

                    This is something I want to look into since I have limited space and the chickens can basically run free here but probably not the swine.

                    By the red thumbs I’m thinking most people believe these are “pets” of some sort. lol. I’m sure the far easterners kept them for pets too (sarc).

                    I think a lot of folks will starve.

        • horses are monogastric, they are big but will die from overfeeding, and don’t feed them corn.

          I see people feeding their horses corn stalks and while it might not kill them right away, it’s not good for them. they have an enlarged cecum that allows for digestion of plant proteins, but not corn.
          Don’t feed them corn based grain either. Oats are a good feedsource. I add some senior (14%protein, high fiber content). keeping weight or adding weight to underweight horses is possible with senior feed. most horse feeds have too much carbs for light duty horses.

          Activity level will depend upon feed requirements. Don’t forget the trace mineral salt -free choice, especially if you live in areas that are low in selenium.

          Keep their feet clean and trimmed regularly – 6-8 weeks. shoes are not necessary unless you do heavy riding, or road travel. flats or boreum shoes for road. (flats are more slippery but allow pivoting easier) Horses with darker – black-hooves have stronger hooves. poor diet will affect hooves and coat first. Teeth may need to be trimmed – floated. most farriers will also float teeth. when they get a sharp edge they need to be filed down, especially back teeth that sit behind the bit.

          Feed good quality hay, the basis of a horse’s diet is fiber. Don’t feed moldy, dusty hay, unless you have to, but you have to wet it first. Don’t feed freshly baled hay, let it sit for a month. (checking frequently for heat build-up, salt to prevent spontaneous combustion)

          Don’t let horses graze on freshly cut grass, will cause colic. Colic and founder prone horses can be fed extra fiber in the form of beet pulp – add some cinnamon (cause it’s basically unappealing) and wet enough to fluff it up. Cinnamon is supposed to be good for metabolism, although most vets will deny this.

          • oops

            I wrote:
            Activity level will depend upon feed requirements.

            reverse that. (blush)

            feed requirements depend upon activity level.

          • Copy.

          • If you have to salt hay you have baled it too green.

      61. Have you lost your password?
        You lost your backup?
        His girlfriend called and you did not see?

        Do not worry!

        Ask the White House, everything is there!

        Fifty years from now, of course! Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk


      62. Friends, Now keep in mind the internet was designed for nuclear war.
        If a router is taken out..the packets just reroute.

        I’m DONE with windows crap.
        In my 25 years of computing..the machine you need is a mac book pro.
        It runs like a top and is a tank of a machine.
        Further, it has aluminum skin…runs inside a faraday cage…so safe from emp pulse.
        This thing is blazing fast and I just bought one for the wife.

        In bad time… the internet is your best friend for fast information that is not
        all bull shit from the NWO news stations. They are all owned by the folks who brought you the federal reserve.

        Check it out… love it! Never fucks up. RIP Steve Jobs..you build one hell of a machine!


        • I’m “DONE with windows crap” too, but you have a 3rd choice. You clearly don’t know what “blazing fast” means. Macs are sick dogs compared to machines I use.

          The last thing a smart prepper would do is sink precious funds into an overpriced laptop that will be obsolete by design in 3 years, from a company in bed with NSA, profiting from NWO Communist Chinese slave plantations.

          I ran Macs for 15 years. They have severe vendor lock-in by design, both hardware and software. Not “open” or “commodity parts” like you want when SHTF. They’re like cars: you can only buy parts from the dealer. I’ve seen Macs conk out, even smoke. They are just Chinese-made electronics like everything else. Jobs just figured out, like a slick marketeer, to wrap the Chinese junk in stylish cases. You do realize, they are just selling Intel PCs running BSD Unix tweaked for max profits?

          The alternative: buy used PCs and/or laptops for cheap. This gear plummets in price every six months! Do not waste money on new.

          Then visit DistroWatch.com and put any distro on it, for free, with upgrades forever, for free, no $150/year “get the latest Mac OS X” and then in 3 years “sorry we don’t support your model now, buy a newer one from us.”

          Mac ALONE still has third-party industry nickel-and-diming you for every little utility app. By contrast, everything for Linux/BSD and even Windows in the utility s/w realm is FREE.

      63. Dammit — I can’t give anyone
        a thumbs up, again!?

      64. @ braveheart. You know NCJo(k)e(r) was referring to the people here as some mob mentality. Trying to quote some brillance of Mark Twain, and marring this in the process, trying to say that we all will believe a lie more than the truth. And that we think tribal rather than for ourselves. Almost everyone here is a free thinker and thankfully unique and a maverick. This is how we all can see the actual truth of what is going on here, and not the government lies that resemble some movie script.

        NCJoker believes this pure crap that the MSM is feeding the public like some infant monkey sucking on to its mother in some jungle. I mean, even some of the politicians in this country that are full of garbage are saying that this is wrong and they don’t believe it. Even England where 285 to 273 of their version of the congress of the U.S. said that this was crap. The false flaggers didn’t even do a good job of pulling this off and making it believable.

        I can see where people would be very upset over this comparison that NCJoker, the same character that months ago said that none of us deserve to live, would use these comparisons to put down everyone on this site as thinking as a cave clan of spear throwing primitives. I don’t usually give trolls a time of day, but this sucked enough that it deserved a response.

        That NCJoker NEVER mentions all the good that people do to help each with knowledge here. NCJoker did not see how just above people were trying to aid in solar panels and trying to give others the best places to purchase them and how to set up a back up source of electricity. I see this constantly where people spend their free time trying to help their fellow human being on this site. Like what mallardhen said above, nothing is gained by the trolls that cause everyone to become upset and get away from a constructive set of goals of surviving what is coming. The people here are more than worthwhile and so much above the common thought process of the masses.

        The problem with someone like NCJoker is that this troll wants to cause others disruption and confusion. Not once can I remember has NCJoker offered any type of solution to anything, only how rotten we all are and how we all deserve to die. Then NCJoker calls us delusional and insane. It is a wonder how one person could green thumb such talk and dribble that is nothing but trash.

      65. Hey ya’ll! I m headed over to Greece next week for two weeks on business, and if any of you can get Manos in touch with me, that would be great. Maybe you can simply reply with an e- mail address, and I will forward my contact details.

      66. I know that this may be off topic but may i say that we can all prepare but we all know that the only way to survive in these areas is to either leave or to bunker down with a group because you know the rats will come at you as a group to take what you have.So my question is this;barring starting your own group how can you find a viable trustworthy group now in your area and get in with them with what you have and knowledge you possess?
        we are told to not let people know who we are for fear that they will then possibly be the ones we have to defend against in the coming catastrophe. I do know that you should have a feeling about those you can trust but i think that the more you have that think and prepare like you the better to defend yourself and that group. I guess what i am getting at is this; is there a reliable network to tap into to find a group in your area?

        P.S i guess the nsa/dhs will send out some of their minions now to check me out

        • Snowman.
          Most of the contacts are word of mouth or who you know.

        • Snowman
          I trust my dog more than most of my family. Without hesitation he will put himself in harms way to protect me or my children. I consider him a valuable prep. At the end of the day he is a tool and not a pet.
          If you don’t have a mean ass dog, I would say that should be the first member of your network.
          But, I would also like to know more like minded people in my area. Statistically there have to be quite a few around my area. But opsec would be compromised by joining any group of preppers.
          The whole situation reminds me of the book 1984, where the main characters demise was brought about by trusting the government agent whom he thought was part of some resistance group… Just saying.

          • I gotta agree a dog will be trustworthy loyal and alert you of anything amiss. all he wants is to be fed petted and praised. Humans will commonly disappoint you. I say DTA don’t trust anyone. My livestock are not pampered pets. I don’t keep anything that doesent earn its keep.

      67. You know what? Those people are Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, and any number of other extremely anti-American assholes. You want me to have sympathy, empathy for them? I have two words for you, can you guess what they are?

      68. If the nukes are about too fly. Take a shower and put on your best clothes , you want too look good when you meet jesus , right ? )

      69. Politicians should be required to send their own close family members to the front lines of any military action we are involved in. This would help to ensure that we don’t get involved in anything that is not truly a good and necessary cause

        John Kerry..you first, than Obama..he can send his wife or one of his brats, I don’t care

      70. This is for The Lone Ranger:

        When you answered my post from yesterday (thanks for that) I had more questions for you. Please scan up to our “conversations” and I will anxiously be waiting your reply. Thanks

      71. FYI…totally off topic but just had a Chinook helicopter pass over my house….have NEVER seen a military plane or chopper in my neck of the woods here. Was headed South towards Alabama.

      72. Swinging on a Star and Old Guy.

        I copied it all. You just might have saved a horse in the future.

        Thanks again.

      73. NORMANDY was a major battlefield for WW2, which was crucial to defeating the socialist France and the Soviet Union’s main enemy, which was GERMANY.

        Syria is one of the few main battlefields for WW3. 🙁
        WW3 will demilitarize the entire world. 🙁

        The ethnic Russians will loose, but the Socialist Soviet REPUBLIC (Kommies) will rule again.

        The break up of the Soviet Union was intentional, so they could reform into the ONE NEW WORLD (GOVERNMENT).


      74. I would much rather die from chemical than have my body blown apart, it seems more humane. Everything seems ass-backwards.

        If the worst comes, please remember I will trade food for your gold and silver

      75. Food, water, ammo, guns, meds, and BOB. Wife and kid have already been sent over-seas. I am ready.

      76. Unfortunately, this is true in all wars. Civilian casualties are unavoidable. When elephants fight, the ants suffer. It takes two to fight. The ‘rebels’ are just as much to blame and violent as Assad. Why don’t they demonstrate and protest like Ghandi? Peaceably.

      77. has someone reminded these rebels that murdering Christians and beheading them based on their religion is just as worse as Assad, their is a hypocrisy here that is mind numbing. they burn the churches down and kill the Christians, this is what the rebels do.

      78. If Assad leaves they will have IMF loans and an “independent” Fed like central banks set up in days. Then they are screwed.

      79. All this prepping for what? To live like Mel Gibson in road Warrior?
        You guys are prepping for times like WWII. Even if you go underground for when the nukes start flashing you won’t be able to stick your noses out for years and even then the soil will be radio-active and sterile.
        Get right with God.

        • Well Billy, I am right with God, so what’s your point???

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