Don’t envy the rich.
Apparently, the ultra-wealthy feel corned, isolated and the need hide from the rest of us. Perhaps that is why many of them are investing in luxury hideouts and even elaborate superyachts with submarine escape pods – just in case.
The Occupy movement may have faded into obscurity, but the elite power brokers who manage the planet have apparently not forgotten the anger against those in charge that it represented.
With millions struggling to find a decent job, facing foreclosure and up to their necks in debt, there are plenty of reasons that ordinary Americans feel resentment towards the few who are (perhaps deliberately) multiplying their wealth off the suffering of the many.
Hence, an emerging niche for “wealth therapy” – where psychologists and life coaches listen to the concerns of those who feel the need to hide their wealth in public and can only trust those they think don’t want their money:
The London Guardian reports:
What issues are America’s 1% struggling with? There is guilt over being rich in the first place, he said. There is the feeling that they have to hide the fact that they are rich. And then there is the isolation – being in the 1%, it turns out, can be lonely.
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“Wealth can be a barrier to connecting with other people,” confessed a spouse of a tech entrepreneur who made about $80m.
“We talk about it as stealth wealth. There are a lot of people that are hiding their wealth because they are concerned about negative judgment,” said Traeger-Muney.
“We are trained to have empathy, no judgment and so many of the uber wealthy – the 1% of the 1% – they feel that their problems are really not problems. But they are. A lot of therapists do not give enough weight to their issues.”
It sounds ridiculous, yet it is apparently a common concern among those in the upper crust.
When times turn tough for the general population, those at the top feel that it is “easy to scapegoat the rich,” and many of those with fortunes carry the additional burden of the problems that come with the way people perceive them.
Think you’d like to have those kind of problems? Maybe so, but many of the rich experience isolation, difficulties relating to regular people, and feel guilt and anxiety about their bank accounts, how they got their money, and how it will be passed on to the next generation:
“Wealth can be a barrier to connecting with other people,” confessed a spouse of a tech entrepreneur who made about $80m.
“We talk about it as stealth wealth. There are a lot of people that are hiding their wealth because they are concerned about negative judgment,” said Traeger-Muney.
“It’s really isolating to have a lot of money. It can be scary – people’s reaction to you,” said Barbara Nusbaum, an expert in money psychology.
“Ironically, it’s harder to talk about having money than it is to talk about not having money. It’s much more socially acceptable to say: ‘I am broke. Things are hard.’ You can’t say: ‘I have a ton of money.’”
This mentality makes many wealthy people somewhat “miserable” – there was even a study done on it – fittingly – by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation:
According to an article in The Atlantic, “the respondents turn out to be a generally dissatisfied lot, whose money has contributed to deep anxieties involving love, work, and family. Indeed, they are frequently dissatisfied even with their sizable fortunes. Most of them still do not consider themselves financially secure; for that, they say, they would require on average one-quarter more wealth than they currently possess.”
The rich have even gone so far as to compare their suffering to that of other minorities in society.
And using politically-correct doublespeak, they can even become persecuted victims:
“Sometimes I am shocked by things that people say. If you substitute in the word Jewish or black, you would never say something like that. You’d never say – spoiled rotten or you would never refer to another group of people in the way that it seems perfectly normal to refer to wealth holders.”
As one psychological counsellor to the 1% says: ‘I am not necessarily comparing it to what people of color have to go through, but …’
“Coming out to people about their wealth is similar to coming out of the closet as gay. There’s a feeling of being exposed and dealing with judgment.”
“You can come up with lot of words and sayings about inheritors, not one of them is positive: spoiled brat, born with a silver spoon in their mouth, trust fund babies, all these things,” she said, adding that it’s “easy to scapegoat the rich”.
Talk about first world problems. Therapists, though, insist that rich clients have valid problems with the way their money is treated… you must respect them, regardless of how they got it.
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Can’t blame ’em for feeling a little persecuted, half the posters here want to hunt them down and kill them just because they think someone else’s money made them poor.
I guess ‘white’ ain’t a color anymore…
What you do with your life dictates where you are in life. Yes, I know things happen to all of us, I’ve had my share of shit to eat, but I have overcame them, and always trying to do better, for my family.
And I try to bless all, good and bad…
Life is like deer hunting.
Right place, right time, right shot…
But if you are good, more good things happen to promote you to a better situation…
Karma???
Be well all…
Life is like a shit sandwich.
The more bread you have, the less shit you gotta eat…
Bless all here…
Huh? It doesn’t matter how much bread you have if the amount of sh*t you have to eat is the same quantity. And that is what the rich and the poor need to understand. We all have different amounts of ‘bread’; but, life hands us all pretty much the same amount of the sh*t regardless of that.
Heartless, agreed to a certain point.
I was born with a bad kidney, life was hell from 17 – 35 when it finally was removed.
But it was just a bad joke\saying….
Eppe, I understand where you’re coming from. However, when I first started posting here and had my first encounters with trolls, I tried being civil with them but I found out quick that just wasn’t going to work. so I’ve been at war with them ever since. Life still goes on and I know how to deal with the trolls.
Bless the people of Sodom and Gomorah. Extermination is sometimes the only way.
OH, SO NOW THE 1% ARE TAKING THE “VICTIM STANCE”?
Here’s how I see it:
There’s no reason to be ashamed of being wealthy if you earned it or inherited it, but if your greed hurt or deprived others, then you should be ashamed of what you did to get wealthy.
Did you cover up a report on a new drug that kills people with side effects, just to get the approval? Feel free to feel guilty. Make your plea in court and do your time.
Did you order an entire village razed and everyone in it killed, because you intended to exploit the land they inhabited? Feel free to feel guilty.
If you had to buy off any politicians or officials to get what you wanted, then feel free to feel guilty.
Basically, IMO, if you had to lie, cheat, steal or kill to get rich, then the guilt is all yours.
The people who worked hard and did it honestly and legally, have no reason for shame. Even opportunists who were honest and didn’t deprive anyone else should feel no shame for getting “lucky.”
Sixpack, agreed. BTW, been having trouble with the deal on posting a smiley or heart. I may be missing something here.
Do it in this order: space:)space
Try it all by itself 🙂
Sixpack, you are absolutely 100% correct!
Sixpack
There you go. That is the truth. I agree.
Even if you earn your wealth honestly, the simple fact is that leaches show up from every angle. Every smart person I know who comes into money basically keeps it a secret from everyone. Best way to not have to deal with the leaches.
It isolates because other people can’t just be happy for your good fortune…they want you to share it with them…just because you have it. You don’t who is your friend and who wants a handout.
Yep!
Right smokey, I agree… there’s no ‘pot of gold’ out there and the first ones to grab it are the winners. The reason some are wealthy isn’t the reason some are poor.
The wealthy who weren’t born into wealth, and didn’t inherit the wealth, worked hard for it. Wealth = evil is not always true because there’s no correlation with wealth and one’s morals and compassion. Evil people come from all walks of life and socioeconomic backgrounds — evil people are equally poor, middle-class and wealthy.
When a poor man is evil, he kills somebody in an alley for the man’s coat he wants.
When a rich man is evil, he kills almost everyone in an entire country to get to the natural resources he wants.
When an uber-wealthy man(read globalist elite)is evil, he will kill the majority of everyone on the entire planet to get what he wants, just because ‘he can’.
The rich don’t bother me. More power to them as many have worked hard or by chance just inherited it. However, it’s the super rich that play both sides against the middle, profit from war and slavery and misery that do need in fact to be hunted down and ultimately killed, after an appropriate amount of torture.
Yes,well said.
This is one of those topics where things really are “relative.’
I have been a coin collector since I was a kid shoveling snow and/or cutting grass for a few bucks in the neighborhood. I buy and sell a little on ebay and occasionally a relative or friend will ask me to buy or sell from them an inheritance or an old shoebox of silver dollars since I have a lot of knowledge ( more knowledge than money about coins.)
Anyhow, I’ve progressed in life to where I might splurge and buy a tougher date coin for a few hundred dollars. Yet when I look at the BIG auctions, there are coins routinely selling for 5 or 6 figures and the buyers probably don’t blink an eye at spending it.
Conversely, as an experienced ( if not “advanced”) collector, I have to remind myself to not get uppity when someone on the hobby blogs talks about his $20 purchase.
We all have a tendency as humans to gauge how well we are doing by looking at others around us–human nature and perfectly reasonable. The difference is when we fail to be grateful and humble ( and in my case-giving all praise to God for the blessings He allows me.)
Wealth is relative–someone rides the bus or drives a smoke-billowing clunker because that is what they can afford. Someone else drives the 2016 Mercedes 780SL convertible because-that is also what they can afford. ( the ones who get me are the ones driving $900 a month vehicles and making only $3000 a month-plus receiving various government aid/entitlements.)
I do not begrudge a man the fruit of his labors–just as long as he maintains a proper attitude about it and respects others…..
Any man who takes another man’s money, whether an entitlement society EBT/welfare recipient scumbag, lawyer scumbag, IRS scumbag, or an elite scumbag, deserves to hang from a tree in the middle of town square.
nobama, AMEN to that!
Ban the expatriation of large sums of money. Fair trade. Tax the fucking imports to protect our jobs. Seize the banker’s fucking money. They didn’t earn that shit fairly.
TAX COMPANIES WHO OFFSHORE JOBS
Can’t do that.
“Free Trade” agreements both caused it and ban correcting it.
Stated with Clinton and the Republicans who couldn’t get it through under a Republican President so they jumped at Clinton’s support for it and got it through with the original NAFTA. Deocrats and Republicans are equally responsible for it and there is no political will to change it.
(or course, Reagan did move Communist China into a permanent status of preferred trading partner prior to that and it could be argued he started it even if unwittingly).
Smokey,
What an utterly asinine statement completely lacking in insight, morality, or factual basis!
Usury, fraud, unjust wages, unjust prices, monopolism, cronyism, colonialism, buying governments, tax farming, media agitprop, highjacking children’s minds, instigating wars, democide, and genocide, etc.—none of that is “someone else’s money made them poor.”
The “command and control” perpetrators of crimes against humanity AND their enforcers, mouthpieces, puppets, talking heads, and middle management should be hunted down, prosecuted, and punished—every last one of them. Their centuries of ill-gotten loot must be repatriated.
Honest trials and justice. Leave the innocent alone.
I agree John Q… extremely wealthy/elitists are much better positioned than a middle-class or poor person to wreak havoc and control the masses and commit horrendous crimes against humanity, which they’ve successfully accomplished and continue to do so… and get away with.
I am in agreement with those who know that not all wealthy/elitists are evil and that there’s no correlation with wealth and evilness. The only reason some middle-class/poor don’t commit these crimes against humanity is because they don’t have the wealth to back them up… not because they have morals and a conscience, which is what determines if one will commit crimes against humanity — if they lack OR if they have morals and a conscience.
Their wealth and influence just helps the morally bankrupt pull it off and without being held accountable.
For example, poor and middle-class people with morals and a conscience who suddenly become very wealthy wouldn’t think of causing harm and destruction and have no desire to abuse their power just because they can. But if they have no morals/no conscience or remorse they’ll do whatever they feel like doing and expect to get away with it.
Although I agree most widespread crimes against humanity, especially where they aren’t stopped and no one is held accountable, have been committed by a group of horrid, power-hungry, corrupt elitists, but I really think it comes down to how one is hard-wired, not what is in their bank accounts/portfolios.
JQP…..Million plus thumbs up. I always enjoy the part stating Honest trials and justice. Leave the innocent alone.
Sadly Smokey is a typical creation of the brain washing propaganda machine. I just hope he doesn’t side with the evil guilty ones since in my court such puppets also will be exterminated along with the guilty elites who are responsible for the crime against humanity.
The “confessions,” “eyewitnesses,” and faked photos at Nuremberg were among the many frauds in that kangaroo court.
Torture and Testicle Crushing at Nuremberg
https://www.darkmoon.me/2015/torture-and-testicle-crushing-at-nuremberg/
You should talk about factual basis, as if all rich folks engaged in “Usury, fraud, unjust wages, unjust prices, monopolism, cronyism, colonialism, buying governments, tax farming, media agitprop, highjacking children’s minds, instigating wars, democide, and genocide, etc.”
You need to get a handle on your hatred, it’s made you stupid.
If their “centuries of ill-gotten loot must be repatriated.”, then guess what, your centuries of ill-gotten loot stolen from Native Americans and blacks also must be returned to the rightful owners. Bend over and pay up. Be sure and smile when you lose your livelihood and home, though, after all, you’re really socking it to those evil rich folks.
Give us a break, you moronic bag of hatred, you’ve spouted off about Jews, blacks, rich folks, and anyone and everyone and how they’ve stolen your life and country from you and you’re going to get your little bit of revenge one day. Shut the hell up and go get a job teaching in a school and maybe save some of those kids you’re squawking about, or go run for office and make some changes in the laws.
Bag of idiotic wind, hot air, seems like you’re not responsible for a single thing wrong in this country, which is pretty amazing seeing as you don’t vote, don’t hold any authority, and certainly don’t bother to respect the rights of others to live their lives without you threatening revenge and violence to them and their families.
Smokey, We are way passed the level of factual reasoning with those elites who you support. The real times dictates total extermination. Be careful which side you’ll be on.
Smokey,
If you had facts, you wouldn’t have to deal in emotional name-calling. If you weren’t dyslexic or dishonest, you would not have to resort to your phony “all” the wealthy straw man argument. You would not have to pretend that globalist criminals have a “right” to not be prosecuted for their capital crimes.
I have carefully distinguished between the guilty and the innocent.
Further, what evidence do you have that I have not run for office? …that I have not held office? …that I have not worked the legislative process? You don’t have my CV. You know almost nothing about me, yet you have constructed a vivid delusion about who I am and what I have and have not done.
To put it in simple language you can understand—You are full of…….. beans.
Well said Smokey !
WELL SAID JOHN Q
JQP, DING DING DING DING DING! Well said.
Who’s responsible for this mess? The rich control everything. How could we blame it on anyone else?
Well, if they have all the money they also support everything.
Don’t blame the “rich”, most problems can be traced to the worthless parisites.
It is the rich who created the worthless.
The worthless were here before the rich were.
I blame the SNAKES in suits.
Your point is clueless under several aspects.
First of all their ‘calvinistic’ way of thinking doesn’t excuse them for the repeated theft they have committed in their useless life.
Second: money is a limited resource. In no way you can pile up millions without depauperating the rest of the unguilty populace, including those successful persons who have earned their moderate wealth thru an entire life of work.
I’ll stop here, now.
This infamous 1% made their illegal wealth not on their job, but on mere paper speculation of financial derivatives and other technocratic crap. That is, on your shoulders.
They deserve a first row on the public road, chained, warmly invited to fill up pot holes by the man with the hat and the gun.
WHAT “RICH” ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? ENTREPREEURS? CENTRAL BANKERS?
THE CRUX OF THE ISSUE IS WHETHER A MAN MADE HIS SHIT HONESTLY OR NOT.
Not to the dedicated losers here, all that matters is the rich are rich and they aren’t.
A shame they didn’t put as much effort into improving their own lives as they have into envying those that did.
It doesn’t end at “how he made it.” It also matters what he or she has done with it.
Consider Bill Gates the entrepreneur who made billions from his kludgey products (and their surveillance back doors). Once he made that money, look at what he has done.
While it may not be a crime against humanity that Gates has heavily funded gun control, his advocacy of depopulation and acting out on it by funding vaccines that STERILIZE POOR AFRICAN WOMEN is a subset of genocide, certainly prosecutable.
Acid, DING DING DING DING DING! We have a winner. You’ve been making some good posts lately. Keep it up.
Kudos
I’ll take a couple million of that “misery and suffering” off of their hands if they have a sincere bone in their soft, pampered bodies…….
damn right when the time is right will murder them cocksuckers.
No, they should be hunted down and killed for fraud, theft, lying, conspiracy, crashing the economic system, rigging the stock market, and the kind of manipulation that actually results in people dying and committing suicide.
… feel corned, isolated and …
Is that like corned beef?
It appears that most of the sites now have a greater need for proof-readers than they did just a year or two ago… Must be due to the prolific use of auto-spell-checkers.
To err is human but to really screw-up, requires the use of a computer.
LOL, I saw that and got a chuckle. “Corned” I think it should have been “cornered”.
corn holed?
To really screw up all you need is a government employee. They screw up everything they touch.
The rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
How many of you know rich people. I would be lucky if the people I know make 50 grand a year and these fuckers are making millions.
Not my business how much others make until they think there are better than me or want to change things because that is the way they want it. How they made their money is on them and if they have to worry about others and what they think of them. Then they might have done things wrong. Being force fed would definitely give me a case of the ass. Bloomberg comes to mind.
Actually you don’t have to be rich to get on my shit list.
I know several millionaires. And they are pretty amiable folks. Ive never had a wealthy man steal from me. And plenty of the so called poor do seal from me.One millionaire had a semi truck he no longer needed. It didn’t run. He came by and stated ive got a deal for you. I need $4000.for the truck. Heres the title. Go get it and get it running sell it and everything over $4,000 is yours. I sold it for ten grand. Another millionaire bought a 100acres near me. There was a pretty nice mobile home on it. He gave the house trailer to me for moving it away. I sold it for a $1000. Every seems that poor person I deal with tries to cheat me. Being poor doesn’t make a person good and being rich don’t make you evil. Folks are not all bad or all good. The best you can hope for is for the lions share of them to be decient. Of course I am moderately wealthy. I didn’t succeed by hook & crook. I worked hard saved 10% and am very frugal. Invested my money in things that grew and made me money when I Was sleeping.
I feel the same towards the rich as sling does, i think. Definitely, about getting on my shit list. For some reason, i guess i got on his shit list, because he said I had become his enemy. Oh well, can’t please everyone. so be it.
Very few have the right mindset and ideology of living, when they have been born wealthy, or better said, born into wealth. It is hard for them to get past being brain washed by ‘better than thou, cause i got money”, mindset of their parents and/or relatives.
There are few exceptions. i know of a billionaire in FL that was born into that wealth. He is smart and probably made some mistakes, but loves Jesus and does a lot of good for people. he has kept his family grounded and his young son was more into the bible and wanting to learn how to teach others about Christ. That is rare as hen’s teeth.
Wealthy friends can also influence younger people to act like that also. i don’t begrudge them or even dislike them, until i get to know them, usually.
It is rare to be rich and not act spoiled or better than others. hell, many that i know that were poor growing up, and have been lucky and /or successful with getting money through hard work or just landing the right job, or marrying into money, have now in middle age, become real assholes because they have big houses and all the toys and tools anyone could ever need, but think they are better.
they become so pompous and high headed, they treat common people like, common dirt.
When the real crash comes and their wealth becomes a burden to them, i won’t jump for joy over it, but i won’t shed one damn tear for them either.
Just my point of view.
Are you sure the poor get poorer?
Seems to me that the poor today are far better than the poor in my youth during the Dust Bowl or the poor from my parents time at the turn of the 20th century.
FWIW, I was poor in my youth and would have thought of today’s poor as being well to do if I had seen them through the silent barrier of time and not been told they were poor.
I actually do work for quite a few Millionaires. Most of them are just like you and I. One of them you wouldn’t even realize is a millionaire as he’ll wear kacki pants and an old shirt and roam the isles of Wal-Mart. You would never give him a second glance until he got into his V-12 Jaguar. Ever hear of Stove-Top Stuffing? Well he came up with it. Great guy.
You must respect them? NOT! In my book respect is earned through hard work and/or courage. It what makes the Marine corps who they are.
BTW I got to meet one of these trust fund babies and had a couple of conversations with him, basically his opinions would almost instantly change to yours if you disagreed with him. He was the most complete spineless ball of babbling fat that I have met to date.
The Marines are a second army. They only compete for fucking funds anyway. The military is a waste of fucking money.
My sister-in-law is a “trust fund baby”. Her parents were both CPAs. She’s worth millions, BUT, they left her to only get the interest. She can’t ever touch the principal. She gets about 6 grand quarterly and one yearly stipend. They live in a rented house, drive used cars and are just like everyone else…they want more than they can afford.
Any grand kids will inherit only the principal, and the will donated the balance to some charity one all of the legal heirs are gone.
Point is, she’s technically a “trust fund baby” but she’s not a rich snob. Sometimes it’s hard to label people…
I apologize but I can hardly bash some sense in your words..
Wtf has a crook’s relative to do with white collars’ criminals…??
We are talking of billionaires here. People who made their ludicrous living on all people’s shoulders (the ones abroad included). People who are braiwashing the sheeple via owned media of deception, who control the economy via their filthy derivativas, who practice Usury and Theft and debt as a weapon. Individuals who are basically mass murderers. Do u know who the politicians are, any side? The puppets of these low-life criminals
Pls tell something that has clue. Don’t make me guess you are trolling around as many others here in shtf….
No Rudolf, you’re probably right about the zillionaires, and banksters to be sure. But what you have to remember is, who you’re dealing with, with your message.
There are idiots who can’t separate someone like my in-law from a hedge fund manager. Many half illiterate people don’t even know what a trust fund is, or a hedge fund either, for that matter.
Painting everyone with a broad brush is not only inaccurate, but sometimes dangerous – just like painting all gun owners as “gun nuts.”
I guess I just tend to be a little more cautious, when there’s a good chance that my words might be used unjustly against the wrong people.
Who I think you’re targeting, and justifiably so IMO, is THE GLOBALIST ELITES. The people who can buy countries and leaders and fund armies of their own. The people who buy politicians to write laws to make them more money, at the expense of the rest of us, right? And you’re indisputably correct.
That’s correct, sixpack.
In any case, let me add, I have been typing on unaccountable ‘info sites’ and I can tell you the latest fashion in trolling is the ‘fake naive’.
In order to check out whether the guy’s deception is intended or his own mental fault, you generally have to interchange a few mexs with him, in order to establish ‘the truth’….Definitely too much for my patience, at this time.
Let me also say that the ‘i$rae£i internet defence’ and the self alleged ‘elite’ have been dubbing their sick efforts to loiter and pollute the posts they find uncomfortable.
We can make an interesting discussion about the manipulation of the language here.
But I see many posts of mine have been banned or deleted and I doubt this very one shall ever appear….
Just thinking how miserable and isolated these rich folks feel brings a tear to my eye.
I know several multi-millionaire’s and I can truthfully say only one made his wealth with out stepping on the little guy to get it; only one.
Most inherited their money. And carry on their evil ways to get more .Yea I know . Their not all evil.And the poor might be worse . But the poor like animals do evil to survive . The rich do evil to have more.
People, rich or poor or anywhere in between, do evil because they’re evil.
No other reason.
Sorry wolve. In my early 30s I lost EVERYTHING. I mean EVERYTHING. However, I did not stoop to evil to support myself or survive. Yours is merely an argument of moral equivalence and doesn’t wash.
Does anyone ever stop and thank a rich person for how much in $$$ taxes they pay. Hug a rich person today, because they are the ones paying the bills. That 1% everyone hates, pays 51% of the total tax revenue in this cesspool we call America. Bill Gates profited about 1.1 billion this Thrusday/Friday when Microsoft stock went up $7.00 a share. About $600,000,000.00 of that will go to various taxes. God bless the rich, so again, hug a rich person today and say a heartfelt thanks instead of whining about not being so privileged. No one should have to apologize for their money, their pedigree, or any other successful station in life they have achieved, even if they were born into it. Thanks for your time.
taxdn2poverty
Fuck the rich.
I have had conversations with them on a business transaction and I will tell you the little guys money do mean shit to them. My hard earned money was pocket change. I did not hear him say it, but it got back to me. $25,000 sound like pocket change to any of you?
Every dog has his day. I just might get mine.
Yes, that fucker is on my shit list.
Slingshot sounds like a person who is always trying to steal someone’s money. And yes, $25,000 doesn’t amount to diddly, if you consider that real money, you are not working hard enough. Stop spending your time crying here, and get busy.
Daisy.
Retired 10 years ago. Worked enough and done good investing with the help of my wife who is also retired.
I’m mostly out of the rat race. No Debt. We didn’t but all those fancy toys and 3000 square foot homes with crown molding and granite table tops.
Now I am not going to fly off to Europe every month but WE are doing fine.
All I know now is that the Fat Paper comes on Sunday.
Slingshot, $25,000 can get a lot of preps.
@slingshot: Well sir, how did you let the rich guy get the best of you? What did he do wrong, just ask’n.
taxdn2poverty.
You want a business partner which has that attitude?
He did nothing wrong in the legal side but my money is just as good as his no matter how much.
Did better elsewhere.
The rich pay taxes. They raise their prices and we pay . Tax a corporation they raise their prices. And we pay more. You think they take a hit. Only we get hit up.
My husband and I are retired and far from rich. We bring in under %50,000 a year.
The past 20 years we have lived in a 1973 singlewide moble home. We have paid off our property and have saved up money to purchase a new double wide modular home.
Many of our friends now think that we are one of the rich just because we have purchased this new modular. I tried to explain to them that we have saved and deprived ourselves of many material items and trips over the past 20 years just to purchase this home.
Many of our friends are in debt up to their eyeballs through miss managed money and credit card debt. Believe me we know how easy it is to go into debt. In the past 45 years hubby and I have worked our way out of credit card debt that reached over $60,000. It was know fun. The last time,was the last time for us and we are very careful with our money.
You don’t have to be rich to be envied and have people look at you like you have something that *YOU DID’NT WORK FOR*
Many of our friends have tried to borrow money from us since we have purchased our home. We have lost a few friends after telling them that we didn’t have the money to loan to them. That we are in the process of building back up our savings.
We even have a grandson who wants us to leave him our home and not to give it to our children.
How long will it take before anyone who has more then you will be considered the evil rich?
I guess if you have two cans of beans and they only have one its war.
And none of the one canners would think to just go out and just plant some beans for themselves.
It only takes someone who had less than you to be envious, no matter how little you make.
I knew a woman in Guatemala named Goya who worked hard for a friend of mine. The village was envious of her when she replaced her dirt floor with concrete and replaced the grass for tin on her roof.
i know exactly where you are coming from. i grew up poor and run with poor friends in the neighborhood/community. Most of them quit high school and took mediocre jobs and lived the ‘high’ life, drugs and partying.
i started a full time second shift job before ever starting junior high. i continued working and going to school and college for all those years. I managed to buy my own single wide before i was 18 when i got nudged/thrown, out of home because there was several younger kids, and not enough room.
I made payments and even bought a cheap new car in 1977. Paid $3500.00 plus tax, on the lot. The old 64 VW was not dependable anymore, but only costing me $500 used, I kept her going.
My old friends turned on me like a rabid dog and called me highfalutin. it was them that changed and regressed. i didn’t waste my hard earned money on dope and partying, but that didn’t matter to them. They were so jealous, because i didn’t run with them and spend my hard earned $$ on them, that they spread rumors and hate about me.
Even people that were older in the community and grew up poor as farmers and stayed relatively poor, and just getting by, turned on me by their jealously, and false rumors.
people can be really cruel and try to take advantage of you in a heart beat. If you don’t let them, but many times i did, they will then hate you and wish you harm, because you are a constant reminder of what they could have been and had, but didn’t.
trolls are like that in a way, but to a lesser degree, because they can’t reach out and cause you bodily harm or property damage. But they would like to.
You started a second shift full time job before you got into junior high. Let’s see for a moment, junior high is 6th grade through 8th grade, which makes you about 12 years old in the 6th grade. So, you worked full time at a second shift job at the age of 12 when the labor laws required workers be a minimum age of 16, unless it’s kid work like a paper route or lawn mowing, neither of which can be considered full time and for sure not second shift. Do you REALLY think the readers here are stupid enough to believe such an obvious smokescreen of nonsense? You’ve conjured up some real whoppers but this one takes the cake, is there ANYTHING that you won’t lie about? You need professional mental health counseling, you’re losing it more quickly by the day now.
You are the retard that preys on words you can’t understand.
No one is buying your crap.
Anyone with half a brain can figure out i mis-spoke and the junior high you so quickly grabbed hold of was meant to be high school junior…you know, the grade that precedes senior.
Go get a life asswipe and quit following me like an adolescent teen that has a homosexual perversion and salivating to be in my junk…you sick puke.
you are like dung on the bottom of our shoes here.
PWTW, way to go! Get him, get him!
Well now granpa, you’re really soiling your britches on this one aren’t you? You can always tell the level of education one has by the use of profanity. Can’t think up a good excuse to cover your latest lies? No problem, just start calling names, and I see you’ve reverted back to your fixation on homosexuality , you were doing well there for a while but you’ve just let yourself slip out of the closet again. Why don’t you just admit to yourself that you’re gay and be done with it? Then you won’t have to pretend and try so hard to convince everyone here that you’re not, because you’re enamored with the subject certainly, and it has nothing to do with sin or helping acid, it’s a subject that YOU dwell on, not me. Nice try on the mis-spoke excuse, too bad it’s so easy a little kid like you could see through it, but I did mention you’re getting worse by the day so you had better go see a shrink soon, you’re getting worse at storytelling because you can no longer distinguish facts from fantasy, in short, outside of braveheart, nobody here believes you any longer.
Troll, why don’t you just move on?
Mona, every one of those folks asking you for your money is thinking you are the evil rich, right now.
Those folks asking to borrow money, they are not your friends. They can borrow money at the bank, from some other evil rich people paying usurious interest rates and putting their collateral at risk. Of course, they are the virtuous poor and the bankers are evil, but that’s no reason for you to give them your money. I guarantee you they have no intention of repaying the loan, ever. Not a dime.
It’s hard to here the flatulence of your ravings without replying. I’ll try in the future to, considering it seems useless.
The topic here is on the abusive thieves. It means great criminal corp’s management, media owners, holly-crap producers and all the connected Mme Toussaud was museum’s kindred. You won’t go off topic, will you?
Then, a single inquiry: why do you worry for the banksters?
They don’t lend their own hard earned money, but pieces of useless paper printed by Mr. Jekyll’s gang.
They even don’t pay taxes in the US. About the good use they make of other people’s money, just ask your lehmann bros….
P.S.
the derivatives..? Yuk, just hang those who dare to use them. Usury and Robbery…where is your ‘old testament’ lying?
Smokey, spot on. Mona doesn’t owe a damn thing to anyone.
Mona, I believe its called-“ENVY”(On your neighbors part). Way to go!
So very sad! Stay the course. Stay healthy.
Your not rich in the South until you gots ‘two’ cars jacked up in your front yard!
My neighbor has four. He must be really rich. ;0)
I never could understand why the wealthy amongst us have to show off by driving a Benz and wearing $500 dollar suits along with flashy titles. I would not go around looking like a million bucks if I was rich. These people are under attack. I don’t envy them and look at their lives as a big headache they always gotta watch their backs even if they got rich fair and square. Living a life of luxury is nice but I’m fine driving the ford truck and wearing jeans I don’t have a target on my back this way. Wealth is a measure of how much material shit such as houses and cars and fat pockets. But if you have no one in your life that loves you your gonna be miserable. I work with a guy same age as me he has a nice house new truck and another one for daily driving motorcycles the whole shebang but no wife or kids because he’s afraid she will take his stuff if it don’t work out. Any woman he’s gonna date will most likely have kids and be on her second marriage so he don’t bother. How’s all that $ gonna have holiday meals with him. IMO a good woman in your corner makes you a stronger man even if they can be a pain in the ass sometimes.
“Wealth therapist” sounds like a job for me to get into.
I know someone who’s not too far from being a billionaire. He is as happy as anyone can be. He doesn’t hide his wealth. He shows it off. He posts pictures on Facebook of things he has bought. He also gives to various organizations and causes.
I have done some research and writing for him off and on for a number of years and have tried my best to help him spend his money. The only thing I envy about him is that he has people to do all the mundane things the rest of us have to worry about, such as mowing grass, buying groceries, etc.
Every psychopathic criminal monster like these NWO money pig fascists truly are will always need therapy and a cell to think long and hard about their treason, genocide, and crimes against humanity.
Psychopaths by definition feel no remorse for their crimes, dumbass.
Hard as I try, I can’t feel bad for them.
Unbelievable!Being sick, old, homeless, penniless, living on the street, going hungry, like millions do, is not a big deal! Having vast fortune of money and assets is a problem! As bad as that is I can’t stand to scumbags who actually sympathize with such absurd nonsense!
The rich can pay the shrinks. The poor cant. Fuck the poor.
Mr. Cockrell you need to get your facts straight. You need to explore the psychological difference between guilt and shame. Only a former Wallstreeter could work with these people and keep a straight face.
Additionally,
Most clients seeking professional help using words like isolation, guilt, feelings of anxiety and problems relating to others would be red flags in the helping profession. They would most likely be diagnosed with a disorder and put on meds. This article is trying to portray the uber wealthy as victims of fate. Not buying it. Anxiety and depression are two sides of the same coin Mr. Therapist. If your clients experience so much distress and trauma due to their wealth you better step up your game.
I believe there may be guilt associated with being filthy rich.
When someone finally wakes up a bit and starts realizing they are greedy and selfish, then they may start to have a conscience.
Realizing they have a conscience, then opens the door for conviction. Feeling conviction can cause someone to admit guilt and sin. Without conviction, there can be no admission of guilt or sin.
Therefore a liberal mind can only reach out with limited admission of guilt for sin. That would explain the need for a human interaction like a Psychologist/Therapist, and not a further reaching for a spiritual interaction with their Creator.
This mindset explains the guilt felt by many of the filthy rich movie stars, that are mostly liberals at heart.
To relieve that guilt of gaining so many riches and not actually making/creating, anything of real value, they jump on the Charity bandwagons and donate, time and money.
When one admits a total changed mindset, away from the liberal one, only then can the door be opened to spiritual interaction, and a true redemption of guilt.
having a lot of money and nice things is not in itself sin, but it is the never ending love for more money and more things, that makes one an Idolater.
If they feel so scared and guilty for being rich why not share some of that wealth? I don’t feel the least bit sorry for the rich. I hope they get what they deserve.
Everyone gets what they deserve.
Money or lack of it has nothing to do with it.
The only rich people I knew personally were criminals. They do have a lot to hide…. How bout that, Mr Abington, still giving those poor black people $5 and a ride to the polls to vote for a corrupt democrat politician?
What about me I feel pretty isolated sitting in this Deerstand
those with much have the responsibility to give much and help humanity. when they don’t do this, their souls are not at ease and therefore you see the problems many people have today. we are a morally bankrupt society and without a massive and rapid change of direction, we are gonna fall from grace in a big, bad way.
if you look at the ‘charity’ most wealthy and rich people engage in, its all nonsense. by having a silly cancer walk where you give money to offer poor women free mammograms, you aren’t helping anything. 50% of mammograms showing cancer are false positives. how many ‘cancer survivors’ never had cancer at all? how many killed or just ruined lives have resulted from this ‘charity’ coupled with corporate propaganda? if this is what you do to help people, you may want to re-calibrate how you are spending your time.
we all need a moral reset. we all need to help and love one another, starting with ourselves. we all need to wake up. get off the pills, get off the toxic food, get off the tv and fools games. find passion and make your life worth a shit thru the betterment of humanity. freedom fighters need to rise up and unite and right this sinking ship
god bless
Class envy is alive and well in the USA. We are not rich by any means, but have two lifetimes of hard work behind us with no debt now. We have some nice things- – don’t rub it in anyone’s face. We still get comments and the occasional stink-eye from somebody. Had a meeting over at my house a few weeks ago and I was jeered at because I told the group we were buying a bigger dining table. These same people won’t volunteer to have a meeting at their place because it’s too much trouble, so the expense of feeding the group has been carried by 3 people for over a year now. We rotate the meeting between our homes.
I told them last week that I am on strike till someone else ponies up:)
25 THINGS YOU CAN TRUST MORE THAN HILLARY
• Mexican tap water
• A wolverine with a ‘pet me’ sign
• A mixed drink made by Bill Cosby
• A straight edge shave from Jodi Arias
• An elevator ride with Ray Rice
• A night out with Aaron Hernandez
• Brian Williams memory
• Michelle Obama staying at a Motel 8
• Visiting the capitals of all 57 states Obama thinks exists
• Pinocchio
• The Boy that cried Wolf
• The Cleveland Browns going to the Super Bowl
• A Nigerian inheritance email
• An unconscious pilot alone in the cockpit
• Harry Reid’s exercise equipment
• An IM from Anthony Weiner
• Anything Nancy Pelosi has ever uttered
• A factory packed parachute
• A kiss from Judas
• An Afghan wearing a backpack
• Whatever Bill Clinton’s definition of “is” is
• If you like your healthcare plan, you can keep your healthcare plan
• A North Korean trial
• A BIC pen that doesn’t leak
• A tuna fish sandwich left on a city bus for three days
Test, that was funny…
I’ve been getting email since the mid-1980s, and I’ve never received one of those Nigerian messages. And the people sending out Viagra ads have evidently given up on me as I don’t get their messages any more.
TEST, damn good list, but all the politicians remind me of Pinnochio.
Wonder if Obama crony Jon Corzine ever found that $1.6 billion he “lost.”
And that slap on the wrist must have really hurt. For the rest of us, we would be Jean Valjean in Les Miserables.
As Orwell noted, “in the socialist workers’ paradise, we’ll all be equal… only some of us will be ‘more equal’ than the others.” Reminds me of the apocryphal, but still a fun story: In the late 1970s, Leonid Brezhnev’s elderly grandmother, who had lived in pre-communist Russia, comes to visit him at his communist headquarters. Leonid is beaming with pride as he introduces her to all his aides and servants, shows her his gold plated desk, his 15 Zil limousines waiting, all with engines running, pictures of all his well-appointed dachas in exclusive, VIP areas across the USSR, etc.
Finally, at the end of the day, all the assistants, aides and servants leave. The old granny very nervously and carefully looks around to make sure absolutely no one is anywhere near, then leans over and very, VERY quietly whispers in Leonid’s ear:
“This is all very well, Leonid…. BUT WHAT IF THE COMMUNISTS COME!?!?”
I was going send this email to Michelle-Marie Antoinette Obama, “Mr. Solyndra” George Kaiser, or any of Obama’s czars, cronies or corruptocrats, but I don’t think they’d get it.
…and then there is Rabbi Dov Zakheim who lost $8.5 TRILLION (1) while he was Pentagon Comptroller AND
•judged that the Torah supports rape of Gentile women prisoners (2)
•supported development of racially-selective bioweapons (3)
•and supported a “catastrophic and catalyzing event like a new Pearl Harbor.” (3)
(1)”9/11Trillions—Follow the Money” video by James Corbett
(2) Dov S. Zakheim, “Confronting Evil: Terrorists, Torture, The Military and Halakhah,” published by Yeshivat Chovevei Torah Rabbinical School
(3) Rebuilding America’s Defenses, Project for the New American Century, September 2000
Nobody ever got hired or worked for a poor man. I know some people that turned out wealthy and were fine people. They didn’t waste money,saved and invested wisely. just because you worked hard and accumulated wealth doesn’t mean you are bad and you HAVE to share it with someone. That’s the choice of the person who made his wealth. There are always people who line up at the rich person’s door demanding that he share his wealth with everyone else. I’ll pick those that deserve it,not the govt.
The key words are MADE, WISELY, and WORKED. Bankers did not earn their fucking wealth. They stole it from us. Damn tribe should have been exterminated long ago.
Wealth is more a state of mind than it is money.
You can’t buy health, love, and serenity of the soul.
Rich guys like Bloomberg, should be burned at the stake
because he wants to use his wealth to deprive you of your
Liberty. That kind of rich I hate and want to kill.
Not because they are rich, but because they are a threat.
There are people who have the business acumen to build very lucrative factories and company’s. Then you have those who have the skills to bring to fruition the dreams of the risk takers. When there is balance there is RESPECT for both sides.
One can make his fortune and should be paid for his investment but to openly take advantage by high pricing of an object and low balling wages, that cost little to manufacture is abominable and despicable. Research and development included.
The worker should be paid by his demonstrated skill level and produce a quality product.
Is it not crazy to pay $200.00 for a pair of Jordan’s that cost $12.00 in China to produce. Aided and abetted by commercial and advertisment hype.
@ smokey:
Your point is clueless under several aspects.
First of all their ‘calvinistic’ way of thinking doesn’t excuse them for the repeated theft they have committed in their useless life.
Second: money is a limited resource. In no way you can pile up millions without depauperating the rest of the unguilty populace, including those successful persons who have earned their moderate wealth thru an entire life of work.
This 1% built their illegal wealth not on their job or skill, but on mere paper speculation of financial derivatives and other technocratic crap. Or via collusion with the rotten system. They both mean: ‘on your shoulders’.
They deserve a first row on the public road, chained, warmly invited to fill up pot holes by the man with the hat and the gun.
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The rich are pure evil, especially the corporate rich. To them and to most of America your wealth defines your worth as a human being. To deny that the acquisition of the wealth was immoral is pure BS. They became rich by gouging heavily on the backs of consumers. Slow, steady and reasonable profit has turned into grossly inflated pricing across the board, with all along the product delivery chain hiking their take before the product hits retail sale. It is audacious preposterous unbelievable GREED. The system supports the theft and there appears to be no end in sight. Anything goes capitalism with zero controls. Like the commercials from large corporation, such as insurance companies touting THEIR donations to some charity. Hey, you evil mofo’s, you have it to give to improve your image because you gouged the shit out of your captured customers. Say that bitches.
Another hate-filled moronic rant.
Go ahead, get rid of those evil rich folks. Then wonder why your car won’t run, your grocery store has empty shelves, your medical school closed, the hospital doesn’t have enough medicine, and your job suddenly goes away, then tell us about all those evil greedy rich folks.
But hey, you’ll manage to get four salads a week out of your prepper garden, and heat the house three hours a day, so you’ll get by, right? Yeah, this SHTF is really going to be an opportunity to make things right in this country, no doubt about it.
smokey…right back at you moron. More BS defending the status quo gouging reality of nearly all business under predatory capitalism.
Many jobs have gone away thanks to the evil greedy bastards.
Ya’ know,
That’s what the blacks, Farrakhan and such, say about white people.
Makes no difference what they are or do as individuals, they’re all evil devils that have one goal only, to oppress black people, and need to be exterminated.
So is there anything that makes you more right in what you claim about the rich than they are in what they claim about you?
Why the generic hatred of the rich here? Yes, there are parasites and banksters – I, too, have no respect for them. But there are also those that took risks and created wealth for themselves and others. There are those that lived below their means and saved. There are those that are simply more intelligent and parlayed that into wealth. And why all the implied violence here? Non-violence and non-aggression are key – leave the hate and violence to the leftists. Just honour your commitments and contacts, that is all. If we do this, there will more than enough wealth for the average joe, like me. Here is all that is needed:
1. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
2. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
3. You cannot help the poor man by destroying the rich.
4. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
5. You cannot build character and courage by taking away man’s initiative and independence.
6. You cannot help small men by tearing down big men.
7. You cannot lift the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.
8. You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than your income.
9. You cannot establish security on borrowed money.
10. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they will not do for themselves.
Over the years they have been incorrectly attributed to Abraham Lincoln. Actually they were written in 1916 by the Reverend William Boetcker, a Presbyterian clergyman and pamphlet writer. The confusion stemmed from a pamphlet published in 1942 entitled Lincoln on Limitations. The pamphlet had a Lincoln quote on one side and these statements by the Boetcker on the other side.
Good post.
My Bible tells me that it is a sin to covet what God have given to another.
I can’t help but wonder how someone can call themselves a “Conservative” yet hate those who have been blessed more than they?
Socialism is demonic/evil and is based on greed, envy, and denies the one true God. It usually leads to suffering, sexual perversion , and death on a large scale.
A free market among “honest’ people is what God’s design is, thus the key is not the system, but the morals of those within the system.
Watch out fur them hogs and don’t forget to worship tomorrow.
This is just cheap talmudic propaganda.
Your own god is an hyper-liberal-globalizator? It’s just the step father of your capitalistic communists. Close relatives.
Well, stick with him if you wish but take care of the horns. They are always eager to have your butt gored.
You are just making things up.
And I bet you’ve never read the Talmud. It really doesn’t say what a lot of people claim. I’ve searched it myself.
You might want to look up what Gary North has written about economics and what the Bible says about it. He is writing economic commentaries on all the books of the Bible, and you can download what he’s written so far.
Hmm… Uncultured comments are a blunt weapon to counterargue smartness.Experience didn’t teach you..?
You should make a free donation to me for what I’m presenting to you. But for this time, awakening a drop of awareness in you would be just an adequate reward..:
WHAT TALMUDICS THINK According to the Talmud….”…When the serpent came unto Eve, he infused filthy lust in her (but) when Israel stood on Sinai, that lust was eliminated” ~ Talmud, Abodah Zarah 22b It was hard for Satan alone to mislead the whole world, so he appointed prominent rabbis in different localities. ~ A Chasidic saying attributed to Nahman of Bratzlav, early 19th century It is our duty to force all mankind to accept the seven Noahide laws, and if not ~ they will be killed.” ~ Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg “The Jews are called human beings, but the non-Jews are not humans. They are beasts.” ~ Talmud: Baba mezia, 114b “The Akum (non-Jew) is like a dog. Yes, the scripture teaches to honor the the dog more than the non-Jew.” ~ Ereget Raschi Erod. 22 30 “Even though God created the non-Jew they are still animals in human form. It is not becoming for a Jew to be served by an animal. Therefore he will be served by animals in human form.” ~ Midrasch Talpioth, p. 255, Warsaw 1855 “A pregnant non-Jew is no better than a pregnant animal.” ~ Coschen hamischpat 405 “The souls of non-Jews come from impure sprits and are called pigs.” ~ Jalkut Rubeni gadol 12b “Although the non-Jew has the same body structure as the Jew, they compare with the Jew like a monkey to a human.” ~ Schene luchoth haberith, p. 250 b “If you eat with a Gentile, it is the same as eating with a dog.” ~ Tosapoth, Jebamoth 94b “If a Jew has a non-Jewish servant or maid who dies, one should not express sympathy to the Jew. You should tell the Jew: “God will replace ‘your loss’, just as if one of his oxen or asses had died.” ~ Jore dea 377, 1 “Sexual intercourse between Gentiles is like intercourse between animals.” ~ Talmud Sanhedrin 74b “It is permitted to take the body and the life of a Gentile.” ~ Sepher ikkarim III c 25 “It is the law to kill anyone who denies the Torah. The Christians belong to the denying ones of the Torah.” ~ Coschen hamischpat 425 Hagah 425. 5 “A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands.” ~ Talmud, Abodah Zara, 4b “Every Jew, who spills the blood of the godless (non-Jews), is doing the same as making a sacrifice to God.” ~ Talmud: Bammidber raba c 21 & Jalkut 772 If a goy (Gentile) hits a Jew he must be killed. (Sanhedrin 58b) If a Jew finds an object lost by a goy it does not have to be returned. (Baba Mezia 24a) If a Jew murders a goy there will be no death penalty. (Sanhedrin 57a) All children of the goyim (Gentiles) are animals. (Yebamoth 98a) The goyim are not humans. They are beasts. (Baba Mezia 114b) Even the best of the goyim should all be killed. (Soferim 15) Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there. Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell. Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed. A Jew may hit a gentile. Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile the wages owed him for work. Baba Kamma 37b. If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite…the payment is to be in full. Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile (“heathen”) it does not have to be returned. Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile, there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep. Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has “exposed their money to Israel.” Jews May Lie to Non-Jews Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies (“subterfuges”) to circumvent a Gentile. Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals. Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth. Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows. Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.
I don’t deny that this is written and still followed by some -ews, at least to some degree; but, you have to put it into the right context.
When was it originally written? That can change the perception a bit. Evidently is was around the change from BC, to AD. Key words pop out such as “Sanhedrin” whom did not believe in life after death.
Also “Canaanite”, which was originally an Adamic/Caucasian, race, that had mixes of other tribes including the lineage of Satan/Cain, through the Kenites, who had infiltrated the Synagogues and were known as scribes. See the trail of demonics, they were writing the texts, and changing them to include their doctrine. The evil Sanhedrin and Pharisees allowed it.
A real screwed up mess for sure, but to insist “all” -ews are somehow a part of, or connected to, and follow, these talmudic texts, is ludicrous.
another point: In those days, the “gentile”, was primarily referred to as the followers of Idol worship. However there are three different meanings to the word Gentile and the most prominently used, in those days, was “goy” which means Heathen.
Later on, Paul used the word to identify the ‘greeks’.
It can also mean, all those that were not of the Adamic/Caucasian, bloodlines, such as Arabians, Assyrians and Persians, Egyptians.
Even at that, the Ismaelites were half Caucasian through Abraham, and many believe that they became the Arabian peoples. There were so many of those early tribes of different color skin, that were so intermixed, only God knows where they were from originally. Even the Ethiopians, of the darker skin color, were mixed in with some.
Apparently the Canaanites screwed everything coming and going. Even Judah himself, the Patriarch of the -ewish tribe, liked making the fur fly with the Canaanite girls. God killed two of his offspring from one of those relations with a Canaanite girl, because they were so evil. The Canaanites originated from the Patriarch Canaan, which was the result of the incestuous copulation between Noah’s wife and her son Ham. When he reached a certain age, Noah expelled him from the tribe and area.
All the Canaanites were supposed to be purged from the Promised land by Joshua, prior to the Israelites coming into it. Joshua, for whatever reason, disobeyed God and made a covenant with the idol worshipping, sex starved, and mixed races, of the Canaanite peoples. Most that were heavy into homosexuality, beastiality, and child rape, moved into the areas with the Sodomites, and a few other tribes that allowed such activity freely.
I have spent LOTS of time in the Judaica sections of university and theological libraries.
Here is the short version: When sincere converts from Judaism revealed the horrifying content of the Torah She beal peh (“Oral Torah,” Talmud & Kabbala), Christians were understandably enraged by the genocidal, larcenous, deceitful, perverse, and blasphemous Master Race exhortations. There were indeed public burnings of the wicked books. The response of the rabbis was to publish sanitized (falsified) vernacular versions that used code words (and sometimes blank spaces) for Jesus and Christians. Even the early 20th century Soncino English translation uses subterfuges and vague footnotes to conceal the problematic content. In the late 20th century, Rabbi Adin Steinsaltz began to publish verbatim translations of the genuine Talmud. Because Steinsaltz was so prominent (elected to be the first Nasi [Prince] of the reconstituted Sanhedrin), filling Caiaphas’ shoes, his Steinsaltz Talmud obtained wide readership—so wide that Christians once again had access to accurate translations. The outrage was again so great that Steinsaltz shut down publication before all the tractates has been published.
Contrary to Archivist’s defense of the Talmud, by any honest Christian standard, the content is objectively wicked. Click on my red screen name and read the threads on the Torah, including the scanned excerpts—then do what I did: verify the content for yourself in your local university or theological library.
typo: “…had been published.”
Thanks J.Q.P. for the head up.
It’s always nice to meet somebody who knows what he says on the argument.
..Bookmarking your link….
You are most welcome. Over the centuries many others have done the heavy lifting to bring light upon these dark teachings.
I follow what you are saying from the writings and don’t dispute the summation. The Kenites and their offspring have bred into many of the mixed races and are still the epitome of corruption because of their deep seated corrupt blood linage and belief.
“you shall know them by their fruits”
Many have intertwined into the liberal mindset that we see today.
They are still very much involved in biblical translations whereby they seek to change the true meaning of the original manuscripts of the Holy Word. Many have Kenite (offspring of Cain & satan), blood running through their veins and don’t even know it.
I know of many changes in the original KJV, that confuse the original intent. In saying that, there is a lot of mis-translation that was done even with the 1611 version, of which i have a copy. However the English translators did not set out to do such, and have made an effort to explain that to the serious reader. Through research and a desire to see this, it is easier to “rightly divide the word”, and feel out those misses. It isn’t 100% with the KJV original. but is close enough for the average reader and Christian to become closer to God.
Is there a place online to download an English copy of the “real” Talmud? All I can find online are very boring. For example, I found a long discussion on whether giving alms on the Sabbath was proper or not and the difference between sticking your hand out the window to hand money to a beggar or the beggar sticking his hand into your window to accept money.
No. There is NO accurate and complete English translation of the Talmud, not online, not anywhere. The Steinsaltz English translation is accurate, but incomplete since Steinsaltz halted publication after the outrage. He had overplayed his hand. He thought that Christianity was dead enough that he could publish openly in English what Judaism actually teaches, but he was wrong.
Princeton’s Director of Judaic studies Peter Schafer studied dozens of Talmud editions in the vernacular and in the ancient languages. In his scholarly book Jesus in the Talmud, Schafer documents the great lengths that the rabbis have taken to conceal their teaching. If you click my red screen name, you can find the thread that discusses all this—with verifiable references.
NO. There is NO accurate and complete English translation of the Talmud, not online, not anywhere. The Steinsaltz English translation is accurate, but incomplete since Steinsaltz halted publication after the outrage. He had overplayed his hand. He thought that Christianity was dead enough that he could publish openly in English what Judaism actually teaches, but he was wrong.
Princeton’s Director of Judaic studies Peter Schafer studied dozens of Talmud editions in the vernacular and in the ancient languages. In his scholarly book Jesus in the Talmud, Schafer documents the great lengths that the rabbis have taken to conceal their teaching. If you click my red screen name, you can find the thread that discusses all this—with verifiable references.
Here we go again with the kosher commissars of thought—languishing in censor-land.
Archivist asked a fair question. Why not let me answer it?
Good post, hogs. Thanks
Yea, I agree, except for one thing. Most people don’t realize that all riches don’t necessarily come from God. There are demonic spirits at work also, and those can produce wealth, or “ill gotten gains”. Such as the millionaires/billionaires that got that way from porno industry, or the gambling industry/Casinos.
Them Hogs, more will show up tomorrow at the football stadium then church. Some more dust to shake from your shoes.
And it’s easier for a camel to get through the eye of a neddle than a rich man to get in heaven.And the big reason for the coming tribulation is the inequity of man. I read that Mary magdelane .The rich woman was found dead living in a hut with nothing people thought she was a man. She saw what happened first hand gave away all her money because she believed so strongly in the next life. This world is just a testing ground. As that carpenter said.
A lot of people hate God.
Some overtly and some covertly.
But the way they live their lives, what they say and do, reveals them the same way a lighthouse reveals dangerous rocks in the water.
Not to mention your masonic ‘outing’ is not strictly requested to support the inane and filthy actions of a confined group of criminals.
If you wish to side with the thief, then you cannot skip justice On This Earth. No self-written book will ever save your ass.
Time’s clickin’…..
Notice: the current attempt to size weapons & trash your 2nd Amendment, is promoted by the 1% scum, the very source of the illegittimate demoNkratic regime ruling you.
HELP. HELP ME PLEASE. I’m so rich I’m having trouble coping with activities of daily living.
I know 1 very rich person, he treated me as an equal human being, I think he’ll live because he never lost his humanity/humility. Just a side note; he owned no cars – all leased.
No, there are enough moronic haters on this forum alone to hunt him down and kill him because he has more than they do. He’s guilty of being lumped in with others.
Remember when the Bolsheviks killed the landowners, the teachers, the minor officials, the priests, etc., etc.?
We have new Bolsheviks now, spewing the same poisonous filth, waiting for their personal revenge on a society that left them behind, they want to be in charge of something, even if it’s destruction. There is no difference between them and anyone else plotting their sick dystopias.
smokey.
Bah..! My mind is you cant be a ‘chosen’ “tout court”. Nor such as idiot as you sound in this very context. That very one (the self-chosen) would be very busy with his NWO agenda, at this time.
You just sound much as a crypto-zio. That’s what we call a ‘shabbath goy’ or shammasim’ at your own choice.
Out of hasbara, it means, ‘saturday’s servant’: it’s the beast of burden of the ludicrous and greedy zio-hyper-liberal, masonic gangsters. Btw, time to get in touch with your own masters and change location….You have already been pinned here, as a Troll.
smokey.
Bah..! My mind is you cant be a ‘chosen’ “tout court”. Nor such idiot as you sound in this very context. That very one (the self-chosen) would be very busy with his NWO agenda, at this time.
You just sound much as a crypto-zio. That’s what it is known as ‘shabbath goy’ or shammasim’ at your own choice.
Out of hasbara, it means ‘saturday’s servant’: it’s the beast of burden of the ludicrous and greedy zio-hyper-liberal, masonic gangsters. Btw, time to get in touch with your own masters and change location….You have already been pinned here, as a Troll.
Smokey is hardly a troll, he’s been posting here for years. He says what he means, and he’s right about the mindless hate a lot here have for anyone who has two dimes more than they do.
Let me get this straight. Thinking or talking negatively about the super rich is politically incorrect or racist? Yes this is where it’s headed.
Making hate filled false accusations and calling for murder of people because you don’t like them and envy their possessions is wrong, it has nothing to do with PC or not, it’s an evil thing to be doing.
REREAD THE ARTICLE SMARTASS. FUCK POLITICAL CORRECTNESS.
ARE YOU BRAINDEAD? My comment never said anything like that. The whole fucking concept about the uber wealthy needing life coaching or psychological therapy to deal with the burden of being rich is fucking nuts. Yea I can call them nuts because I have the credentials to give that opinion. It was the dumbasses themselves that compared their plight to Jews, Blacks and Gays.
No, you’re the one that is brain dead.
That’s the theme of the posts in this commentary.
And you’re defending it, which makes you a part of it.
Executions following conviction in a fair trial for capital crimes against humanity are not murder, but societal self defense.
Look up who the Bolshaviks were. Of what religious group. The same group of rich people who own 96% of our media. Their already rich they just want more. And their controlled media said crucify him.
I like being rich and don’t even feel… whatever, get over it. No debt, don’t pay anyone interest, save half of what you make.
All you need to know about economics is in a 1920’s publication “The Richest Man in Babylon”
I read the richest man in Babylon when I was in my twenties. That’s when I began saving 10%. I also read the Book Know How To be Rich Today by Bud and Carmen Moshier. That’s when I changed a wrong negative core concept to a positive one.
Remember the gold investors in that book that took advantage of the goldsmiths lack of foresight to acquire what he would need in advance of needing it?
They did what the rich did to get rich, and that would make them evil and in need or being murdered to most posters in this forum.
George Clason is best known for writing a series of informational pamphlets about being thrifty and how to achieve financial success. He started writing the pamphlets in 1926, using parables that were set in ancient Babylon. Banks and insurance companies began to distribute the parables, and the most famous ones were compiled into the book The Richest Man in Babylon.
Mr Clason’s first sentence in his forward:
“Our prosperity as a nation depends upon the personal financial prosperity of each of us as individuals.”
The second cure for a lean purse, my favorite, “Control thy Expenditures”
When walking around the poorest people, most people will dress less ostentatiously. Leaving home the flashy diamond ring or Rolex. But if being rich is such a burden, I know plenty of people who would be glad to remove some of their burden. This is a joke. Rich victims of the money that forced itself on them. It is hard to get money. It is easy to give it away. I have had a little extra from time to time. I enjoy giving a sizable gift to someone who needs it. Generous people are happier than stingy bastards regardless of the size of their bank account. Besides I worked for what I had. I didn’t run a scam. Being poor is always temporary. So is being rich. Shit happens. That is the theme of this web site.
There is a responsibility that comes with having money. Simply giving it away is irresponsible. Using money as tool to create opportunity for others to progress is preferd
The problem with today’s rich is this: they will hold up the American Gothic painting and say ‘That’s me! That’s why I am rich: hard work and good values!’, when in fact they should show a painting of a bunch of guys blowing each other at a frat party and another one of some guys committing financial fraud in a swanky restaurant with some politicians. That’s how they got rich. No wonder, sometimes, they start to sweat and get nervous. There is no honest platform for them to stand on: most are just corrupt to the core.
Darn it Frank, you actually used sex, or shall i say “obscene sex” in the right context.
It’s the devils tool, when it is used with a liberal/homosexual, context. Sex between a man and a woman is a blessing and a good thing when it is done within the parameters of marriage.
Marriage doesn’t have to be made legal by worldly standards to make it right and wholesome.
Overstock Holds 3 Months Of Food, $10 Million In Gold For Employees In Preparation For The Next Collapse
“What do we do as a business so that we would be prepared when the next crash happens.
One thing that we do that is fairly unique: we have about $10 million in gold, mostly the small button-sized coins, that we keep outside of the banking system.
We expect that when there is a financial crisis there will be a banking holiday. I don’t know if it will be 2 days, or 2 weeks, or 2 months.
We also happen to have three months of food supply for every employee that we can live on.”
Zerohedge
Direct link…
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-24/overstock-holds-3-months-food-10-million-gold-employees-preparation-next-collapse
10 million in gold?
Big deal.
Try accumulating a worthwhile amount before you brag about it.
If you think rich is bad, you will never be rich.
Demonizing the rich will not elevate anyones status. Money if not received and earned properly will not stay with you. Most rick folks I know try to find ways of giving back. and they don’t give back by doleing their money away. The try and find ways of giving someone a leg up. I know a wealthy guy that starts a business and elevates employees to partners and then sells his share to them. If you can help someone get a good start that’s preferable to charity. I know millionaires who do give to charity . Too the Arkansas Childrens Hospital and St Judes. and parents of sick kids can stay at the Ronals Mc Donald House for free. and the food is free to. and poor parents children get medical care and there isn’t any charge. Demonize crooks and immoral folks no matter what their finiancial status. But just because their wealthy doesn’t make the evil.
Big deal they give to charity. So do I. I know people with very little that volunteer and give. Guess what. It’s easier to give when you have excess verses little. Remember the story about the poor widow that gave?
My folks where staunch democrats. brainwashed with the myth the democrat was the working mans friend. Orvill Fabus had been governor for forever. Along Came Winthrop Rockefeller. He adopted Arkansas As his home State. He ran as a republican For Governor in 1964. He met my parents when he was campaigning at the county fair. My mother mentioned how the parents had to buy the High School textbooks for their children. And the books where outdated and because there where more kids there weren’t enough book,s available. Mr Rockefeller told my mom I promise you If Im elected every child in every school in the state will have new textbooks. My parents for the first time voted Republican. And Rockefeller won. So Rockefeller proposed to the legislature to budget for textbooks. The poor loser skinflint democrat legislature refused. In fact they wouldn’t approve anything he wanted. So the Rockerfeller family out of their very own pockets bought textbooks for every school in the state. They also built state parks on their dime. They also started the industrial development commission. And they brought jobs to Arkansas. Many of their millionaire friends came here and built factory,s. Arkansas finally emerged from the depression. And it wasn’t a poor man who was responsible. And that Governor Job only paid $3000 per year in 1964. After his defeat Fabus Had to get a job. He went to work as a teller at the Bank in Huntsville Arkansas.
That sure put a stop to all that Robber Baron nonsense.
I read somewhere a decade or so ago, keep in mind I didn’t see evidence to back it up, but the power elite have some place to go to when they get the I assume rare pang of guilt for some horrible order. They get some party time with dope and freak sex, a pep talk with professionals, and they go on their way empathy free.
Anyone ever read it?
It’s hard to connect with people when you’re rich…awww, boohoo. Try “connecting” with people when you’re homekess, unemployed and can’t afford a therapist. What people are upset about is the system that creates and sustains such “divine right”, mega-rich, folks. If they feel distress it probably comes from an intuitive understanding that they (or their peers) have rigged the system. People usually experience distress when they are caught with their hand in the cookie jar. If they want to assuage their guilty conscience they should legitimately try living on minimum wage for three years (if possible…they wouldn’t have a sense of true despair).
Maybe drug-cartel overlords feel persecuted too? Or the human trafficking masters? It’s so easy to blame obvious criminals living a life of luxury while the world suffers around them. Maybe because they deserve some blame (yes even the daughter of the drug cartel king-pin deserves blame until she takes action to act with a thought of benefiting humanity).
I forget who said it but I remember a quote (to paraphrase), “the problem is that some people are born on 3rd base and they think they hit a triple.”
Lastly, my childhood hero was “Robin Hood” NOT the sheriff of Nottingham.
Robin Hood is a fairy tale. Its part of the fair share mentality redistribution mentality. And that’s exactly what happened to the USA production Jobs. It was viewed by the UN NWO agenda 21 folks that the USA middle class had more than their fair share. So pollution laws, Nafta and other measures where put into place to redistribute the Middle class production jobs to the third world impoverished folks. yes the Robin Hood & Jessie James myth when it actually happens to you isn’t so great of a idea. I don’t think very many wealthy folks have any mental problems related with having money. Their too busy doing things to worry about it. Quote from Forrest Gump . Im a gazillionare Money is just something I don’t have to worry about anymore. If your so durn smart? Why aint you Rich?
Obama’s class warfare is meant to divide class, race, religion etc.
Police are isolated and disenfranchised.
The rich are isolated and disenfranchised.
The poor are isolated and disenfranchised.
Patriots are isolated and disenfranchised.
Veterans are isolated and disenfranchised.
Blacks, whites, Latinos and every other group are isolated and disenfranchised.
On and on, the attack on the American people is right out of the communist manifesto. Without a unified citizenry, they can do anything they want since there is no voter pluck large enough to oppose them.
Voter block
Damn that autocorrect!