Holder’s Latest Scandal: DOJ Now Pressuring Banks to Refuse Service to Gun Stores

by | Apr 30, 2014 | Headline News | 243 comments

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    This article and research was originally published by Kit Daniels at Infowars.com

    Comment from Alex Jones: This is a classic example of criminal racketeering. Holder is shutting down businesses just like the Nazis targeted the assets and later the companies of Jews in the 1930′s. The DoJ has been caught shipping guns to drug dealers, terrorists and gang members in Mexico under Fast and Furious, yet Holder is targeting legitimate, lawful gun shops. This is completely outside of the law and resembles the behavior of a dictatorship. Impeachment proceedings must begin immediately.

    eric holderFor the past several months, the U.S. Department of Justice has been pressuring banks to refuse service to businesses the DOJ is targeting politically, such as gun stores, in a program entitled Operation Choke Point.

    Under the program, the DOJ, headed by Attorney General Eric Holder, is attempting to shut down various legal businesses, including firearm dealers, dating services, purveyors of drug paraphernalia and pornography distributors, by coercing financial institutions to close the bank and merchant accounts associated with these businesses.

    The businesses targeted follow a 2011 Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation bulletin which lists all of the above legal activities and others as “merchant categories that have been associated with high-risk activity” involving “disreputable merchants.”

    “Although many clients of payment processors are reputable merchants, an increasing number are not and should be considered ‘high risk,’” the bulletin reads. “These disreputable merchants use payment processors to charge consumers for questionable or fraudulent goods and services.”

    In other words, the FDIC, and now the DOJ, are trying to demonize gun shops by causing banks to view legal firearm dealers as no different than pushers of “ponzi schemes” and “get rich products,” two “high-risk” activities that are also listed in the bulletin.

    In 2012, Bank of America told a gun company, McMillan Group International, that because the company was expanding into firearms manufacturing, the bank no longer wanted McMillan’s business.

    “We have to assess the risk of doing business with a firearms-related industry,” the bank’s representative told operations director Kelly McMillan.

    Last month, BitPay, a U.S.-based bitcoin processor, likewise refused to do business with gun dealer Michael Cargill of Central Texas Gunworks due to a similar policy.

    And also in March, a Florida couple who own a gun store received a letter from BankUnited informing them that the bank was closing their business account, which they opened seven years prior, and gave them three days to transfer their money elsewhere.

    “I was very angry,” Elizabeth Liberti told the Miami New Times. “They were very inconsiderate. We had all our credit cards going through that bank.”

    “All of a sudden, we had to run and find another bank to keep our business going. We shut down for two weeks, and they wouldn’t even tell us why.”

    BankUnited finally gave them a reason some time later.

    “This letter in no way reflects any derogatory reasons for such action on your behalf, but rather one of industry,” wrote branch manager Ricardo Garcia. “Unfortunately your company’s line of business is not commensurate with the industries we work with.”

    And it isn’t just gun stores that the Justice Dept. is targeting.

    Last week, Xbiz, a news outlet pertaining to adult entertainment, reported that Chase Bank was sending out letters to hundreds of porn stars notifying them that their accounts would be terminated.

    “I got a letter and it was like please cancel all transactions, please fix your automatic pay account and make sure everything’s taken care of by May 11,” actress Teagan Presley told Xbiz. “I called them and they told me that because I am, I guess, public and am recognizable in the adult business, they’re closing my account.”

    “Even though I don’t use my account, it’s my personal account that I’ve had since I was 18, when it was Washington Mutual before Chase bought them out.”

    And when Presley went to Bank of America to open a new account, the bank also turned her away.

    An adult industry attorney, Michael Fattorosi, told Xbiz that banks in the past have “notoriously closed adult accounts or people in the industry’s accounts, but nothing like this.”

    That’s because this discrimination is coming straight from the Justice Dept.

    Jason Oxman, the CEO of the Electronic Transactions Association, recently revealed the massive scope of Operation Choke Point, which he indicated was also targeting ammunition sales.

    The DOJ is ensuring the banks’ cooperation by threatening them “with subpoenas, civil investigative demands, and other burdensome and costly legal demands,” he wrote on The Hill. “And it’s working – payments companies across the country are cutting off service to categories of merchants that – although providing a legal service – are creating the potential for significant financial and reputational harm as law enforcement publicizes its activities.”

    The Justice Dept.’s ultimate goal is to shut down these businesses completely.

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      1. How much treason has to go on before someone hangs?

        • Too much.

          • It is too bad that someone couldn’t force banks to stop taking money from and giving it to certain government agencies that violate the Constitution.

            Hmmmmmm…………

            • Yeah, and apparently it’s cool to launder billions in drug money too.

              But sell a shotgun legally and you’re a target.

              • Mac Slavo

                Wachovia was accused of laundering $380 Billion (with a B) and fined $160 million (your income tax rate should be so low) back in 2011 thanks to an official government policy which protects banks from criminal charges. Lets not mince words, its an OFFICIAL POLICY not to enforce the law according to the MSM. Ya can’t beat that good old, “Get Out Of Jail Free Card”.

                No one was prosecuted but some kid caught with 29 grams of marijuana goes off to prison somewhere in the US.

                “War On Drugs”? No but certainly a war on the Bill of Rights.

                • I grew up in a time when seldom did treason or just good old fashioned criminal activity in the government did not go unpunished. At least it wasn’t approved of. Now the people of the country accept lying and have such a short attention span that events like Bengazi, the IRS scandal, Fast and Furious, and too many others are easily forgotten with time. Not that much time.

                  While Russia and China are positioning themselves for WW3, we get to hear about LA clippers owner getting banned from the NBA forever and forced to sell the team in all likelihood. This was a private conversation and he gets nailed for it. Not to say he is not acting like a slave owner, but what about OUR private conversations and how the government or anyone else can use them against us.

                  As for me I don’t care about the color of someone’s skin. I only see if they respect freedom and are not part of any beast government or don’t support it. There are black people that don’t support BO or the rest of these characters in government. I respect them. I don’t respect black people that go along with BO and the other numbskulls in the government. I think of black people that go along with BO and the anti-gunners that want to take away our rights of self defense as floating turds in the toilet. Of course I think of ANY race that wants to take away our 2nd Amendment rights as white, yellow, brown, turds floating in the toilet.

                  You see I and others are automatically labeled racists because we considered any minority as garbage that go along with the beast government. Any white person that goes along with the beast government is an equal opportunity POS. I would call a black, brown, white, yellow, blue, green, or chartreuse skin colored person a friend that respects freedom and liberty as much as I and others do.

                  What is so frightening is to see all these black people oh so happy about nailing the Clippers owner no matter the future costs to EVERYONE’s freedom of privacy. Another guarantee of the Consitution that is being shredded. You should have seen that hypocrite sonny hopkins on cnn justifying this breach of privacy, she in my opinion is one of the worst half black racist on TV. You should have seen her with the Treyvon Martin case.

                  What black people don’t realize is that they will be the first ones thrown under the bus WHEN BO declares martial law. That is IF the Russians and Chinese don’t first blow up the U.S. and every NATO country first. Black people will dearly wish they had not been so quick to trash the Constitution for a quick sensation of some hollow victory, the ONLY protection that keeps them and every other race from a fate worse than slavery.

                  People of any race cannot choose to shred the Constitution because it protects everyone. Yet each day, you see these fools appaulding when the Bill of Rights, again all our rights, are trampled over by the government and the system. Our liberty and freedoms are being buried and too many people are gleeful over this. Too stupid and narrowed minded to see beyond the reach of their shallow little minds to see they are helping to nail their own coffins shut close. Sad and pathetic, while the true enemies are laughing their heads off. 🙁

                  • It’s all a big club, and we ain’t in it ….

                  • Thumbs up for your post BI.

                    Our country is in such shambles that being politically correct is no longer a viable excuse for patriots to not tell the truth.

                    Worse than politically correct is the term “racist”. When all else fails to discredit patriots that term will be used more and more.

                    I thank God for the patriots who stood up in Nevada. Don’t care which side of the issue anyone was on; the most important thing that took place there was for the errant government to see that there will be lines drawn in the sand and American patriots willing to give their lives to begin to right the wrongs that are being imposed on us.

                    You are correct about the government not giving a damn about the useful idiot takers in America. When they are no longer needed to fit the governments agenda they will meet a terrible end.

                  • Central Banking, with it’s “fractional reserve” model, is the problem!

                    The elimination of Central Banking would be the single greatest blow against those who would force you to live under their boot!!

                    “Give me control over a nations currency, and I care not who makes its laws.” ~ Baron M.A. Rothschild.

                    “The Central Bank is an institution of the most deadly hostility existing against the principles and form of our constitution… if the American people allow private banks to control the issuance of their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.” ~ Thomas Jefferson

                    Central Banking is the lifeblood of the NWO. Eliminate it, and the NWO dies.

                    In other words… End the Fed!

                  • POG, the world is in economic shambles and balancing on a nuclear pinhead. Oh, and I have been working away from the comp but now I am finished with this job and will be going fishing for money until October is the reason I haven’t posted for awhile, but thanks for asking. Going Galt as I can write off everything involved when fishing for cash. It is going to be a fun summer and I really hope I don’t feed the Beast with a cent from my efforts.

                  • Off Topic.

                    Europe Shuts Down-Joins Communists – Celebrates May Day!

                    From ZeroHedge:

                    “It is May Day, which means half the world – the half where welfare contributions to one’s standard of living are off the charts – celebrates labor, or rather the lack thereof, by taking the day off. Which means virtually all of Europe is closed, as are Eurex and Euronext futures, and most European markets expect the UK.”

                    zerohedgeDOTcom/news/2014-05-01/futures-lethargic-overnight-ramp-half-world-takes-day

                  • BI,

                    As you reiterate time and time again that you are not a racist, for some reason you keep going back to blacks this and black that. I think this speaks for itself, and contradicts your denial of not being one, or being accused of being one. I agreed with most of what you say about people blindly supporting BO, or those who are happy that the Clippers owner was banned for life, however, you keep going back to blacks this, blacks that. Doc Rivers (coach of the clippers) said that JJ Redick (who is white) was just as upset about the comments as the blacks on the team were. From everyone i heard speak about the Clippers owner who was black, white, yellow, brown, all had the same outrage over the comments, and not all blacks thought the invasion of privacy was wrong.

                    For once, if you really want to convince others and yourself that you are not a bigot, try using “SOME” blacks instead of the broad brush you paint with your obvious finger pointing and target audience of your rant.

                    Your passive aggressive approach to explaining that some black people don’t support BO, and some black people are pro gun, but go on to bash black people only for the rest of your post.

                    I guess if you would have substituted “blacks” with “people who” for the rest of your comments, you may have slid by and not looked so transparent in your attempt to play the middle ground.

                    As per your lengthy and thought out rant, you appear to feel that all blacks trash the constitution, all blacks receive hand outs, all blacks are lazy and don”t work.

                    Strangely enough, i enjoy reading your posts, until your racist views spill out your mouth.

                  • We are in deep s–t. First off, What that guy said was (fill in the blank) and (fill in the blank). But what he said as vile as it was (and is) was said in private. If the concept of Free Speech means any thing at all, it does mean you CAN say things like that IN PRIVACY OF YOUR OWN HOME. However, that does NOT mean he can act upon those beliefs, in public to harm others. This more proof that this country has gone insane.
                    This guy is going to lose his job, finded over million dollars, have his property taken away (stolen) from him. Even though NO crime was commited, nobody was murder, assaulted or phyically harmed. But merely because of what he said, as repugnant as it was.
                    AND YET, The former Sec of State, can lie to Congress under oath, and casually say “at this point, what difference does it make?” when 4 Americans are dead in part due to her actions, and on her watch.
                    And nothing has yet to be done about that.
                    The head of MF Gobal, steals 1.6 BILLION dollars of customer monies, lies to Congress, by saying he does not know how that happened or where the money went to, and he still is walking the streets a free man.
                    But say something offense in private, you will get nailed and never forgiven for that thoughtcrime. WTF?
                    I guess you have to have the correct connects and the correct letter of the alphabet after your name, to get away with saying that you would like to cut his cock and balls off (Jessie Jackson about Antichrist Obama).

                  • I say I am a racist! I don’t go where that because of the color of my skin puts me in danger! Because there are truly racist out there that will kill you because of the color of your skin!

                    So do I profile, HELL Yes I do! Until I know a persons’ intentions, HECK Yes!

                    I think it’s the FLOCK mentality, ‘birds of a feather, flock together.’ Genocide in Africa has proven this, many other examples from history prove this.

                    Oh, I’ve also caught myself saying “damn women drivers!” Or driving through a certain part of town saying “damn Chink drivers!” I admit I do it!

                    Not right I know, but its my instinctual reaction which I try to work on.

                    So, are we naturally racist?

                  • @ Libprep. I don’t respect most people because they don’t respect freedom and liberty and want to tell me and others what to do with our own private lives. Yes most blacks, 90-95% of them back BO, mainly because he is part black. This is reverse racism. Those blacks that make up the percentage that don’t back the beast government are all right in my book. Yet they are unfairly classified as uncle toms.

                    I truly mean what I say. I don’t care about skin color as long as they share what I value. I could get along with an extraterrestrail as long as they thought the way I did. I don’t see the color of someone’s skin when it comes to common interest and beliefs. I see many black people, and white people trashing our rights for political correctness and control of everyone, including their private lives. I am a bigot against stupid people regardless of skin color. I am a bigot against anti-gunners and those that would try to destroy my freedoms and others.

                  • So what’s wrong with being a “racist” or a “bigot?”

                    Absolutely nothing.

                    As long as one adheres to the non-aggression principle (NAP), one can think what they want.

                    It’s called Freedom. /ˈfrēdəm/ – the power or right to act, speak, or think as one wants without hindrance or restraint.

                    Cultural Marxists (the PC crowd) hate “freedom.”

                    Cultural Marxists would imprison you for “thought crimes.”

                  • I am African American and agree with you 100%. Thanks for making things very plain and I appreciate people who explain themselves so that we may understand what lies underneath.

                    Never stop explaining what life is truly all about.

                    Peace

                  • @BI,

                    That’s more like it, now i can appreciate the second post a little more than the first. The 90-95% may be a little high, but i will agree that the majority of blacks voted for BO solely for the novelty of him being the first black prez. I too can relate to anyone whom shares the same mindset of freedom. Now the little racist cowardly followers who couldnt wait to chime in and express their bigoted views can’t be helped.

                    My suggestion would be a little less on the “all” blacks theme and focus the rants on the people who haven’t awaken yet.

                    By the way, it’s funny my post got so many thumbs down, when i was only referring to the bigots and racist individuals. I was under the impression that there were more rational people rather than racists that frequented this forum.

                    Hmmmm, i guess you learn something new everyday.

                    I’m starting to see why the “Prepper” movement gets a bad rep, and are categorized as terrorists and all other kinds of unsavory names. When i got into prepping i was like cool, there are like minded “people” just like me. However, shortly after, i realized it’s a slightly different crowd who don’t necessarily like blacks and non whites.

                    I guess i’ll keep prepping and keep an eye out for those who don’t like blacks. It’s a shame we have to live this way, but for my own protection i’ll have to reevaluate who i can really trust, even if they say they’re a prepper.

                    That sucks because i like to start every new person i meet on a clean slate without prejudice. Hopefully the racists and closet racists die out and we can get back to good versus evil.

                  • @Libprep

                    May I venture a guess?

                    You’re “black.”

                    Is that accurate??

                    There are no “bigots and racist individuals.”

                    There are only individuals.

                    I happen to be “white,” and I can tell you, there are plenty of “white folks” that I despise!!!

                    Does that make me a racist and a bigot???

                    Racism is a canard. It’s a divide a conquer technique.

                    Move beyond the programming… get over it.

              • I wonder how many BLACK gun shops this is happening tooooooo ?

                Yea I thought so

                • Off Topic…new jobs data

                  “The last 2 weeks have seen initial (unemployment) claims SURGE by almost 40k, back (the most in 5 months) above 2013’s closing levels.

                  This post-weather-recovery “ignore Q1 GDP” pent-up demand is absolutely not evident in the jobs data…”

                  Zerohedge

                  • Its always that 98% of Bad blacks that make the other 2% good blacks look bad also eh. Its even worse for good jews! They have to put up with over 99% bad jews always makeing that good jew group 1% look bad also.

                    Which goes to show there are Always exceptions to the “rules” in these issues eh…Although one would think at This point in the game one not always need make any such discalimers of “Not all are bad” when discussing such groups or issues..Most folks today are smart enough to Know of these small few ‘exceptions” already I’d say.

                • Libprep, welcome. i’ll try to be fair and civil to you. Be Informed is one of the most intelligent people here in our community. He’s not a racist. As far as the Clippers’ owner remarks go, I don’t agree with the remarks either since I work in a company with 80% African-Americans in it. On the privacy part, I think everyone is going overboard. If the remarks had been made anywhere in public, that’s one thing. in the privacy of your own home, that is something different. We do encourage lively debate here on whatever articles Mac brings to us and share information o n survival-related topics to help each other have the best chance of surviving adverse situations. If you have any questions about such topics, feel free to ask and we’ll try to help you. If you have any information on such topics to share with us, feel free to post it and we’ll be glad to read it. But you’re crossing a line calling any of our people racist when you don’t have a good reason to do so. BTW, I am an “uppity cracker” just in case you were wondering. I always prefer to be on good terms with black people but won’t let any of them hurt me. Just don’t mistake my friendship for weakness.

                  • @renegade braveheart

                    I appreciate the semi kind words you offered. I’ve frequented this site for a long time and in my reply to BI and my second reply to his response, i noted both times that i do value his input and i agree with alot of what he says.

                    However, if you seemed to miss the point that i was making in regards to painting “all” blacks with a broad brush suggesting that all blacks are lazy, anti gunners, all vote and warship BO, then my comments may very well apply to you as well. Midway through and on, BI’s post started to lean heavy in one way towards one race, and if you don’t see that, well……

                    I called him out for being racist due to him labeling a whole race as being a certain way or having a certain mindset. I clarified that as well by saying let’s try using “some” in front of “blacks” to clarify what he meant. As you said, BI is one of the more intelligent people in our community, so i find it odd he would use those choice of words. I find it appalling that anytime that “blacks” are mentioned people like to immediately go to the poverty stricken blacks who are a product of their environment. ALL BLACKS ARE NOT THUGS PEOPLE, JUST LIKE NOT ALL WHITES ARE PEDOPHILES!!!! I can’t make this anymore clearer.

                    Again, if speaking about those who have their eyes closed and are nothing more than sheep looking for handouts, I’m 100% in your corner. If you’re suggesting that it’s only the blacks and not any other poverty stricken race including whites, then this is when i have a problem with you whether or not your friendship is genuine or if it is the weakness that effects all bigots.

              • Just a silly question:

                If the banksters own the government then who is really pressuring who?

                Guess who really owns those banks;
                most of the owners are members of the tribe and gun control has to be high priority if they are ever going to control/own the world.

                • ON TARGET, Granny!

                • POG. TG: Why is the Jews persecuting the jews? Is this just Theater? Is this just a diversion from the heat on Adelson or are they turning and eating each other??
                  Oh have you seen the latest on Jon Rappaport endorsed movie “Water Time” ?? Check it out!

                  • Thinker:

                    I haven’t seen the free movie Rappaport is talking about. If I understand it correctly, a man has produced an expose of the JFK killing cover up and the lies our government is feeding us. SHTF posters are really missing out if they are not getting free Rappaport emails. Just need to go to nomorefakenews dot com. Info on the free movie is there.

                    This movie must be really important to get Rappaport so stirred up. I have ask Mac to feature some of Rappaports articles but havent seen any yet; sounds like this movie article would attract Macs attention.

                    As far as jews turning on jews. Have you ever wondered about that commercial on tv begging Americans to send care packages to jews living in poverty in israelie? Why, when the richest jews in the world set up israelie and forced thousands upon thousands of jews from Europe to relocate there (many against their will) do they now have to beg for care packages? Apparently the zionist jews had a different plan in mind for israselie than just making a comfortable home for the lower class jews. I understand for the most part that israelie is nothing but a ghetto.

                    I need to know more about your question about Adelson before I can give you an answer to that.

                    Great to know you are thinking past all the rhetoric. It is quite a journey when you discover the truth isn’t it?

                  • Thinker:

                    Adelson has so much money that he is backing (buying) the republican candidates for president. They were all in Vegas kissing his ass and begging for his money. We know that the democrats are also lined up kissing their favorite uber rich jews asses; so either way we get an israelie first president the next election.

                  • Hagee being interviewed by americas Other False Prophet, Phony Preacher, Judiazer scam swindler, Benny Hinn!

                    I doubt hagges telling us who runs world as the person that posted that Link claims…

                    More like they posted the link to Judiaze Us folks too, or convince us that Hagee is correct etc.

                    Hagee and Hinn both could Pose for the Posterboy awards for usa’s Top Phonyes that not only promote judiazering and false prophetic “utterances”…

                    But whom, Both, Are Perfect representatives of EVERY Biblical Verse that so WARNS Christians what to look Out for when dealing with shyster’s such as these two massive zionist jew ass lickers and swindler Falsehood teachers.

                    And each has a massive number of followers which goes to Prove just how stupid and ignorant and easy it is to Dupe 50-60 Million foolish american “christians”.

                    Anybody who really believes when its all done and ended that somehow Christ will say to these two twisted judiazering fraud pastors, hagee & hinn the words of “Well Done My Good & Faithfull Servents”?!!

                    Must have their head so deeply imbedded up either their own ass or one of said pastors fat ass. WAKE UP Already!

              • To Mac and everybody: I’ll say it again. Nothing this government does has any legitimate basis to it whatsoever. I hope the banks tell Holder to go f#$% off and refuse to do what he wants regarding gun dealers’ accounts. It’s high time Holder was targeted. Next to Janet Reno and certain others, he is one of the most corrupt AGs this country has ever had. He doesn’t have a leg to stand on. I’m not giving up shit. MOLON LABE SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS ASMS braveheart

              • Didn’t “We, the People” bail out these very same banks? With OUR friggin’ money? And now they’re going to decide who gets a service and who does not??

                Not for nothing, but try this shit with a black man or a gay couple, and wait for the hoots and hollering from the Holders and the Obamas of the world… how is this ANY GODDAMMED DIFFERENT?????

                • SonOfSam says:

                  “We, the People”

                  There is no “We the people.”

                  “We the people” is a fake construct designed to dupe the “people” into giving consent to be ruled (abused).

                  “The People” have no more say in what the “Government” does than does the family dog in deciding where it will spend spring break.

                  The sooner the “people” realize this, the better.

            • The next thing — They will forbid the banks to do business with conservative websites and freeze dried food companies.

              • 1938 or 2014 ?
                We are experiencing our own version of Krystal Noct , next will be the burning of those businesses, make no mistake OSH*THOLE is following a play book called Mein Kampf.
                The boxcars are soon to follow .

                prepare this is going to be an interesting summer TPTB are pulling all of the stops .
                What will happen next is anyones guess. American is not becoming a communist state it is becoming the worst NATIONAL SOCIALIST STATE , welcome to the Fourth Reich.

                There is going to be a fight , oh yeh.

                To all those III% SOF

                PRAIRIE FIRE

                RESIST NO MATER WHAT ANYWAY YOU CAN
                YOU ARE THE RESISTANCE

                Semper Fi 8541

              • Major retailer urged to blacklist all these groups

                Amazon now urged to blacklist ‘haters’
                ‘Far left group uses its hate listings to demonize conservatives’

                “Headlined “Financing Hate” in the group’s Intelligence Report publication, the Southern Poverty Law Center, or SPLC, listed 91 “hate groups” ranging from those clearly on the fringe to mainstream bloggers and websites such as Catholic Family News, Atlas Shrugs, Jihad Watch, WND and the Americans for Legal Immigration PAC.

                Clearly stating its opposition, it describes how some of those organizations utilize Amazon, PayPal and other online services to sell products.”

                WND dot com

                • I finally got rid of PayPal and also have a “below the radar” pay by mail option.
                  RockymountainCornDOTcom

                  • Am looking at ordering some corn from you to try out,,,
                    how many days to mature?
                    how does it taste if you eat it as fresh corn??
                    Obviously it wont be a synergistic but is it ok as a fresh eating corn or only for grinding,,,
                    if ou separate the different color kernals will the resulting ears be solid color?

                  • Kulafarmer,

                    Painted Mountain Corn is 90 days to maturity.
                    Open pollinated – heirloom – GMO-Free.

                    It is a field corn with more protein than sweet corn.
                    You can eat it in the soft, milk stage but it is not as sweet as “sweet corn”. It has more of a substantial hearty taste.

                    When dry, it is soft, flour-type corn that is easy to grind into meal or flour.

                    Painted Mountain Corn was developed from over 60 different strains of almost extinct Indian and pioneer corns.

                    Its strength lies in its ability to adapt to local conditions. If you save the best ears for seed year after year, yields continue to improve.

                    It has a high germination rate and germinates at soil temperatures 10 degrees F. lower than other corns.

                    Its genetic pool is so diverse that you cannot predict
                    what color will result from planting a seed of a particular color.

                    So to answer your last question, even if you separate the different colored kernels, the resulting ears could be any color in the 1st generation. If you were persistent in selecting for one color in succeeding generations, it might be possible to select out a mono-color.

                    However, the diverse, multi-colored genetics give it incredible survivability in harsh growing conditions.

                    OBTW, I check all our seed with very sensitive equipment for “Fukashima Fallout” so it doesn’t glow in the dark LOL.

                    RockyMountainCornDOTcom

          • Southron-

            Written/spoken references for correct/justifiable rope usage…will not garner attention among the political-elite, nor the MS media nowadays.

            …however, physical vengeance per 30cal @ 500-1500yds…will!!!!!!!!!!

            ——————————————————-

            Unless they “straighten-up”.

            …there is no other way out!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            • Hunter, do you mean .30 cal. as in M1 Carbine? I have one and love it.

              • At 1500 yds he’s probably talking 30-06, RB. Maybe .308 or even 300 win mag, but definitely not 30 carbine.

                • Thank you U-Southron.

                  ..you are correct, had all three in mind.

                  The .308 for +500yds, 30-06 for +1000yds & the 300WinMag for +1500yds.

                  Thumbs up to you!

              • BH,
                You ought to get a ruger blackhawk chambered in the same caliber that would make an awesome bug out gun kit , if you have the GI version all the better. Had one before governer florio banned them in jersey in 1993 could not bring it home when I left the service sold it at that time ( back then service members owning personal firearms was not frowned upon.) . Good reliable rugged carbine when used within its liimitations .
                .30 Carbine round is very easy to hand load also.
                Still have the blackhawk.

                Semper Fi 8541

                • Anon:
                  You are right I have a M1 Carbine and a Black Hawk. The pistol is loud but it is hard hitting 110 Grain soft point will take a deer at less than 50 yard.
                  Carbine range is around 300 yards max.
                  Good little round. 30 Carbine is a 30 caliber mag round in a pistol. They are very close to the 357 mag.125 Grain. (1400 FPS) I just got done loading 1000 rounds 600 FMJ’s and 400 Sp. I will add them to my Preps.

                  • Sgt.
                    Do not know what happened my post came up as anonymous.
                    Kevin 2 stuck in South Jersey for now due to job . The dems are still up to no good they are voting in the state senate on Monday May 5 Banning standard capacity magazines only permitting 10 rounds ,
                    But there is some stuff pending before the supreme court that could have the potential of invalidating vast segments of NJ gun law.

                    Time will tell .

                    Behind enemy lines in the former united states of America.

                    Semper Fi 8541

                • Your a victim of S-166.

                  i voted with my feet and moved across the Delaware to America in 1991. I don’t know how you can live there but I do understand you do what you have to do. Florio was being groomed for bigger things but his loss in NJ thanks to a team effort of the NRA-ILA, Coalition of NJ Sportsmen, NJARPC, Hands Across NJ (interesting roots there) sunk him.

                  I political line was drawn in the sand in NJ. The Democrats that with two exceptions voted for the ban took a shellacking in the following election as did Mr “Florio Free In 93”.

                  Keep up the political fight but NJ is a suburb of NYC with the same damn mentality.

        • It’s only a matter of time before they expand Choke Point to other legal businesses…

          Oh, you sell preparedness supplies? Those are on the terror watch list…

          GMO-free foods, natural medicines, alternative energy technologies, dissemination of anti-government propaganda… where will it stop?

          If it goes against the agenda or threatens big [NWO] business then it’s going to be deemed criminal activity.

          This kind of government overreach would never have been accepted even a decade or two ago… we’ve come a long way.

          • Time to just start another entire currency trading platform and do this on our own. Moving away from the fed’s paper can only be a good thing. However, I’m sure they’ll accuse us of being terrorists for doing such, but when they discriminate, they can hardly hold the ability to trade in the marketplace hostage and relegate it solely to their paper.

            • They tried to say Bitcoin was a form of terrorism. Way too late for that in any case…

              They now want to tax people with solar panels. Ever think that would happen?

              It will not stop, it is only beginning. Read the 45 points of communist takeover…search for:

              The Communist Takeover Of
              America – 45 Declared Goals

              Read the Communist Manefesto, Saul Alinsky’s goals, then consider how many of the planks are now in place. Study the stated goals of the “Franfurt School”. Then, you will see why America is done.

              • JustMe,

                Taxing the sun is something they have been “licking their chops” over for a long time. It’s part of “THE PLAN.”

                That’s why I stopped doing Grid-tied PV systems some time ago. If anyone is contemplating an alternative power system, don’t be tempted by the lure of the grid or rebates. Best to stay invisible. Just my opinion, having been off-grid for 30+ years.

                • I was offered the grid tie and said no. I then waited one year and then quietly put in my own system and hid it behind a blackberry covered eight foot fence. just move circits for primary stuff and pay a little to the power company for secondary stuff so they just think I am more efficiant. What a bunch of dumb asses…. OPSEC … PRAY, PLAN, PREP, FORM TEAMS.

                  • MOTI, watch out for those drones, proliferating eyes in the skies these days. There is no free lunch!

                    BI, another excellent post above. You are amazing! Why isn’t the US preparing for WWIII if China and Russia are preparing for it? Am I missing something here?

                  • “OPSEC … PRAY, PLAN, PREP, FORM TEAMS.”

                    That’s the essence of it now – practical and tactical.

                    I was educated and trained to serve the beast which I did for a time and a season decades ago. My real education was in the heart of the beast. At the time I thought I was with the good guys but my gut told me something was wrong but I could not identify or articulate it. Eventually, I dropped out and lived in the cracks and margins of society.

                    I am emerging into the “Eye of Sauron” with the time I have left to do what I came here to do and pass the torch to the next generation. I have tons of alternative energy stuff in my library dating back to the time when solar cells were invented for the space program in the 1960’s. I am trying to scan and post the most important documents so they will not be lost.

                  • Hey there Man on the Inside

                    I’m not ready just yet, but I am VERY interested in going off grid, and I have no intention of telling the power company or local politicians anything about it. Like you, I plan on showing them the happy face mask so they will assume that I, too, have wooly fur and go baaaaaa! When the time comes, will you be able to provide any assistance in that regard? I know lots about gardening and computers, but not much about solar PV

                  • Son of Sam.. yes I can help… mabey MAC will let me post a good primer article on this subject.

                • New Ordnance, good for you.
                  No one is off the grid if they are tied to it.

                  What alt systems are you using? We want completely off but retrofitting solar aint feasible.

                • New Ordinance; You sound like your journey is much in line with mine.But for me its harder staying off the Radar so to speak? Any way I am going to post a link of a current project i am currently working based on Teslas Quantum energy generator and for those seeking energy independence. “Off Grid” get the information before its scrubbed?

                  • Thinker,

                    One of the great unsung stories is the suppression of the new energy technologies of the 20th century that were supposed to have been our legacy in the 21st.

                    There is a long string of inventors that have been suppressed and/or murdered. I knew a few of them.

                    They usually got taken out when they tried to use the patent system and/or went out to raise money and trusted the wrong people to get their inventions off the lab bench.

                    The arena has always been filled with scammers and it is difficult to separate the wheat from the chaff.

                    I don’t use the term “free energy” anymore because of all the pejorative connotations.

                    That said, energy form the vacuum is real and
                    engineerable IMO.

                    Bedini is an example of someone who has found a way to bootstrap his inventions into production outside the tentacles of the beast.

                    The beast will not allow threats to the “petroleum paradigm”.

                    All the best and watch your 6.

                  • Thinker,

                    Check Bedini’s company, “Renaissance Charge”.
                    Note that nowhere do they mention “Free Energy”. Yet, the technology is there – below the radar.

                    r-chargeDOTnet/Unique-Process_ep_53

                    You may be familiar with Bearden’s Comprehensive work “Energy from the Vacuum” that covers this territory.

                    The book and much of the collaborative Bedini/Bearden work is here:

                    johnbedini.net/john34/bedinibearden

                    All the old guys are dying off and the the torch must be passed to the next generation as a legacy for the next civilization.

                    We stand on the shoulders of those who have gone before us.

                    All the best in your endeavors.

                    Stay Safe

                  • Thinker / New Ord-

                    Have either of you come across any schematics/construction blueprints per the QEG?

                    Any link would be greatly appreciated.

                • @New Ordnance,
                  Its amazing all the people who think their grid tie system will work in a SHTF scenario,
                  As soon as the grid goes down the system shuts itself off, these people dont realize that and unless they are an electrician and can figure out how to disable that they will get 0 electricity from their system,, one of my moms snooty friends was trying to say that isnt so, then a week later a tree fell over the feeders to their house and the MECO power cut out, they had no electric for 13 hours, how useful is that 50k worth of hardware if it does nothing?

                  • Kulafarmer,

                    “…how useful is that 50k worth of hardware if it does nothing?”

                    True and tragic.

              • JustMe:

                You certainly have done your homework. Another wide awake person.

              • JustMe,

                I agree. Look how many of these “goals” they have accomplished!

                “Socialism is the prelude or ‘intermediate step’ towards communism… according to the Communist Manifesto written in 1848 by Karl Marx (age 30) and Friedrich Engels (age 28).”

                “Communist Plans For America” – 45 Declared Goals, 1963
                The Communists Goals for America as discovered by, and published by the United States Congress.
                Congressional Record, Vol. 109, 88th Congress, 1st Session Appendix Pages A1-A2842 Jan. 9-May 7, 1963 Reel 12

                The Communist Takeover Of America – 45 Declared Goals

                1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.

                2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.

                3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.

                4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

                5. Extension of long-term loans to Russia and Soviet satellites.

                6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination.

                7. Grant recognition of Red China. Admission of Red China to the U.N.

                8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev’s promise in 1955 to settle the German question by free elections under supervision of the U.N.

                9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the United States has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress.

                10. Allow all Soviet satellites individual representation in the U.N.

                11. Promote the U.N. as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one-world government with its own independent armed forces.
                (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the U.N. as by Moscow.)

                12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party.

                13. Do away with all loyalty oaths.

                14. Continue giving Russia access to the U.S. Patent Office.

                15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

                16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

                17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

                18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

                19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

                20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

                21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

                22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”

                23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”

                24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them “censorship” and a violation of free speech and free press.

                25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

                26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as “normal, natural, healthy.”

                27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with “social” religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a “religious crutch.”

                28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of “separation of church and state.”

                29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

                30. Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the “common man.”

                31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of the “big picture.” Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

                32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture–education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

                33. Eliminate all laws or procedures which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

                34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

                35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI.

                36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

                37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business.

                38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand [or treat].

                39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

                40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

                41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

                42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special-interest groups should rise up and use [“]united force[“] to solve economic, political or social problems.

                43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

                44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.

                45. Repeal the Connally reservation so the United States cannot prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction [over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction] over nations and individuals alike.

                glennbeck dot com

                  • Wow KY Mom, good thing they haven’t done any of that or we’d all be commies by now.

                • The glenn beck link probably destroys any credibility…I went and looked it up somewhere else, just because.

                  • Sixpack:

                    Couldn’t have said it any better myself. Relying on Beck for the real down and dirty truth aint going to happen.

                    As long as he remains an israelie firster and touts MLK AS A HERO he is just TPTB shill. He is allowed to touch a lot of subjects but NEVER will he get to the real truth. He KNOWS the truth and knows if he touches it he will be toast.

                    So, by not telling the whole truth, what does that brand him. A half liar? So send your hard earned money to keep that scum rolling in your dough. Someone upstairs is keeping score. BECK WILL NOT OUTRUN JUDGEMENT DAY.

                  • Glenn Beck is an establishment stooge!

                • Many, many of these have come true…having grown up in the Canal Zone, during turbulent times, I am cringing. I had kids with educational and adhd issues, many years ago…the references to mental health were in play in the the peoples republic of Illinois, back in the 80’s….having lived that nightmare…my fear level just intensified….one thousand fold….

                • Hey NY Hypocrite, you just made sure your kids will be gay.
                  I doubt you’ve noticed, but we’ve been under siege in a protracted, (look it up)covert nuclear war since March 11, 2011. Females like you breeding out of the control and the biggest reason this kind of garbage happens anyway. Maybe you can use your bible to stop the bullets.

            • SterlingSilver,

              …start another entire currency trading platform…

              I have been ruminating about how to start alternative commodity exchanges and peer to peer trading networks, free of “the beast” –

              kind of a distributed system Bitcoin-like concept.

              just winging it here.

              Ideas?

              • Wisdom From Steve Jobs On The Coming System Reset

                “Our century-old monetary system is unraveling before our very eyes.”

                “Moreover, politicians in some of the most ‘advanced’ economies in the world (Japan, the US, France, the UK, etc.) have accumulated so much debt that they have to borrow money just to pay interest on the money they have already borrowed.

                They have indebted generations who will not even be born for decades.”

                “This system is on the way out. It will reset.”

                “This reset is nothing to fear. Human beings are incredible creatures who have a long-term track record of growth. We rise. We progress.”

                http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-04-30/wisdom-steve-jobs-coming-system-reset

              • New Ordnance,

                We researched a couple of years ago about starting a community wide bartering system while using “hours” based on $20/hr to lend some type of value to an hour. Everything would then be bought or sold based on how many “hours” it was worth, determined by the two individuals negotiating the deal. We were going to print the hours on paper much like currency (like the concept of the Ithica hours) and had a lot of community support to start this endeavor.

                At the end of the day, a group of hippie liberals that had moved in to our valley declared that we would be robbing from their “retirement” funds by not paying taxes on our trades and kicked up a shitload of controversy. It was even covered here in our small local newspaper. We finally determined that until people experienced the further stages of collapse that we’d need to hold off on this idea until the time was right.

          • It won`t stop unless one of the following happens:
            People grow a back bone.
            The people that push these kinds of operations/policies are jailed promptly.
            Or, they are simply removed from life and buried.
            Course, the last option would never be viable as we have such a fine *justice* system that would never dream of anything questionable..

          • Barter, buy all you can now of items that you know will be difficult to buy, grow your own food, detach from the 9-5 suburbia lifestyle, IF you value freedom that is,
            Learn to make do with much less NOW before its too late and you are forced into it.
            Downsize everything and shelter whatever assets you own.
            We are watching the beginning stages of a similar situation to Germany right about the fall of the Weimar republic, if you think it cant happen here, good luck with that, just look around at what is going on.

            • Kulafarmer,

              Thank you. You are right on target. Detaching from that 9-5 lifestyle is what the Rocky Mountain Corn Project is all about.

              “The revolution occurred in the hearts and minds of the people and in pulpits throughout the colonies long before a shot was fired.

              “All across the American Redoubt and in other strongholds across the land, the Rocky Mountain Corn Project is catching fire. Painted Mountain Corn is spreading through the valleys, folds and creases of the mountains, and in improbable places where corn has never grown before. Farmers, gardeners, ranchers and liberty-minded folk from all walks of life are sowing and harvesting these seeds of freedom.”

              Introduction to Part 1 of “The Dangerous Summer.”
              RockymountainCornDOTcom

            • I have been living off my preps for a couple of weeks now. (Expensive roof repair is taking part of my income.)

              I have discovered that a trial run is necessary. For one thing, making bread, biscuits, cornbread, etc. from scratch is not as easy as you think. First you need internet access to get a recipe. Then you need baking powder! It’s not included in baking mixes stored in #10 cans. Then, your baked goods will get moldy much sooner than the food you buy, and you will have to throw it away if you don’t eat it by the second day. I wasted a bunch of ingredients.

              Another thing, you can only eat so many beans. I had stored twice as many starches as beans. When I restock after a accumulate a couple more Social Security checks, I will not be buying any more beans, but buying instead, more rice, crackers, flour, and instant potatoes.

              I will also need more cat food. I now realize that opened cans of pet food will not keep without refrigeration. My cat can’t eat more than 1/4 to 1/3 can of cat food without getting sick. Usually, one 6 oz. can will last 2 days. But if there is no electricity and the weather is warm, I will have to give my cat a part of a can and the rest to the dog. Even if I only feed her once per day and rely on dry food to keep her happy at night, I will use twice as much cat food as I thought.

              • What I have done with recipes, is gotten a basic, for beginners cookbook or two, and when I found an internet recipe I wanted, I wrote it down long-hand and saved it to my computer in a text file.

                If the lights go out, all I need to worry about is reading my own handwriting…

              • Honey …..put honey in your baked goods!! I’ve had bread last 10 days without mold.

                Keep preppin’

                • Thanks, Mom!

                  I have lots of honey. I will try that

            • Kula, couldnt agree more. Come June, no more humping just to give more than 30% to the very system I despise. My own personal revolution. Step by step were getting unplugged and out.
              Over the past couple years, me and the wife have returned back to simple machines and unplugged appliances. Coffee is made from hot water in a drip pot. Taters are mashed by hand. Most batters and doughs are mixed by hand. Can opener is manual, like all other kitchen equipment. We cook w/ propane and shes looking for an old wood cookstove. Switched out light bulbs. Dont use the dryer at all but still use electric washing machine and wash in cold water. Looking for the old wringer washer but theyre rare. Still looking and we figure if our grannies could use them so can we.
              We heat w/ wood and keep the electric heat pump off most of the year. Ceiling fans in every room keep the air circulating in winter and summer. We do our canning outside. Cook some meals outside in hot weather w/ a fire ring and cast iron. Even rigged up a rocket stove setup. Thats all free cooking heat just by gathering dropped sticks and small wood.
              Everyone, The time for simplifying is here and its not too late. Get as far off the grid as you can. Do it before the system goes down and get your lifestyle readjusted to the big changes that will happen. If you cant afford or dont want alt energy systems, fine. Cut way back on the electric appliances and go back to the lifestyle in the 1940s-1950s when folks called the monthly utility bill The Light Bill.

              • coffee in a French press is the only way to go. Coffee, YES!!! have I ever mentioned that I do coffee? Fresh ground to the French press is simply the best. I have been stocking coffee beans for evah! Without coffee, ole .02 goes on a rampage that wouldn’t be pretty.

                • I have an old hand-grinder. I can grind my coffee, or wheat, or crack oats or herbs, whatever I want to. All I have to do is stuff it in there and turn the handle. I love it.

              • Calgagus;
                Check out Lehmans. They have a pretty good wringer.

                GR

          • Mac

            You could not be more right on where we are headed.

            Phone and internet snoop bots.

            Cameras everywhere, at businesses, traffic intersections,
            every public and private place.

            Drones will soon be common as sparrows.

            Every vehicle equipped with monitoring devices.

            And of course implanted micro chips in all our babies at birth.

            Taking more and more of our money and making more and more decisions for us.

            All of these things will so polarize us. To be sure, a big fight is coming!

            • And it was so easy! Just one stinking attack on the WTC by some Muslim terrorists and Americans were only too happy to be labeled the problem and surrender their rights.

              • Gives ya a headache to go along with the sick feeling in the pit of the stomach, doesn’t it?

          • Guess I should get serious and think about taking my little corn seed business underground.

            After this essay, I may have to:

            “The Dangerous Summer” RockyMountainCornDOTcom

            Topics Covered include:
            Part 1 “The Invisible Republic”
            Part 2 “Loaves and Fishes”
            Part 3 “The Seed-Corn Auxiliary” (coming soon)

          • Yes, Mac. The early birds get the WASR10’s.

          • Mac your comment makes a lot of sense. Guns today non-gmo and freeze dried foods tomorrow.

            My God this country has fallen!

            • How about creating a choke point for businesses that accept EBT? How about a choke point for property owners who bring the ghetto into nice neighborhoods with section 8 housing? How about a choke point for females who have 6 children by as many different men and collect WIC,Welfare……for each bastard ghetto child?

          • Sorry, Mac. I posted before I got to your post.

            Good comment.

          • Mac. monsatan has to do something. 26 countries, including China and more recently, Russia, has banned GMOs, especially imports, in their countries. This is pretty much THEIR LAST FRONTIER, besides some little poverty-ridden states, to push their poison.

            THE REST OF THE WORLD HAS HAD ENOUGH.

          • Mac, let them bring any of that ‘choke point’ crap to me and I’ll be going for someone’s ‘choke point’.

        • When you guys elect me to be president in 2016, there are several things that will happen in my first week in the office.

          1. Obamacare – gone. No longer the law of the land. People will have the choice of what they want to pay for as far as insurance goes, if they want any at qll. You will no longer be able to run up hundreds of thousands dollars in bills just because they have to treat you. Priority goes to citizens first.

          2. Immediate creation of state militias that are under the control of the state government and NOT the federal govt. What is currently the National Guard and Coast Guard, will be immediately mobilized to our southern border to stop the inflow of illegal immigrants i to this country. Those that are caught crossing the border illegally will be given food and water and first aid as needed, then returned to Mexico and they can deal with them. Implementation of a secure border fence will follow.

          3. Require the passage of laws stating that:
          A) those who are in appointed positions within the government give up their Fifth Ammendment rights and must testify on their whole knowledge of any given incident.
          B) This retroactively applies to previous administrations as well.
          C) Refusal to testify will be considered an act of treason punishable by death.

          4. “Lawful” Detention of members of current and previous administrations under the NDAA. Those detained will be held in lighted solitary confinement until they can appear before what is left of the House and Senate. See #3 for details of refusal to testify. The NDAA works both ways.

          5. Destruction of the NSA’s domestic spying apparatus overseen by a citizen committee. If this doesnt happen quickly, deployment of heavy weaponry will be used to outright destroy the massive data centers used against us.

          6. Any member of the armed forces or government that refers to citizens as civilians will be immediately stripped of citizenship and any rights granted by our creator.

          7. If found guilty of #3 will have all assets of their immediate family siezed and those assets that can be tied to their time in power.

          Here is the big one:

          8. Canned goods manufacturers will be required to change their products so they are stackable. Rounded bottom edge and lip on the top edge or vice versa. No more lips on both the top and bottom. This bugs the shiat out of me.

          Make sure you elect a real American next time.
          Vote CrackerJack 2016

          This message brought to you by a Real American for a Real America.

          Thank you and god bless.

          • CrackerJack:

            You have my vote, but I need to know what kind of flowers you like.

            I know your obituary will be written similar to JFK’s.

          • Indeed. You’ll be “grassy knolled” your first week.

          • CrackerJack.

            Open up that can of Whoop-Ass.
            Got my vote.

        • were not even finding half of it

          MSM is complicit too

        • Off topic: Mac, more reports of vets being followed by trucks and report of one killed. I haven’t seen Old Vet here in a while….remember he reported that he had them in his driveway? Can you e-mail him directly and see if he is okay?

          PKLL

        • Until the traitors in office are removed one way or the other.

        • Apparently there is no limit, we will continue to take it. This entire administration needs to hang for their crimes. More people on the govt dole than working, a president who acts like a king, his wife like a queen, constantly lying openly and not even trying to hide it. No proof he’s even american! When people fear the govt it’s tyranny, and that’s exactly what we have. Sorry for the rant my fellow patriots.

      2. Backdoor regulation = tyranny

        • “There’s no way to rule innocent men.
          I could not address this better in my own words, but this quote is perfect.

          The only power government has is the power to crack down on criminals.
          Well, when there aren’t enough criminals, one makes them.
          One declares so many things to be a crime
          that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws.”

          —-Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged—

          • …and that is exactly what is happening, right before our eyes.

      3. Buy even more guns.

        • And all the ammo you can find

          ASAP

      4. the time to pick up the pitchforks and torches is NOW!

      5. If my grandfathers generation was alive this would not be going on , government had too much fear of the people. When will we ever grow some gonads and take this damn country back!!

        • Action has been successfully replaced by the fear of being called a racist…

          Sometime in the future… A man and his family are huddled around the small cook fire near what used to be their property. The mom and daughter spent the better part of the day collecting wild edibles (Poke Salad) While the dad and son scavenged for anything they could barter for their next meal or use int eh camp, the son asked his dad, “Dad, why did all the good people let the government steal everything they had from people like us who just wanted to be left alone?” the Dad answered, “Son, there was nothing anyone could do. The injustices of 200 years ago made everyone feel so guilty that they just stood by while everything was taken from them…

          • Start preaching to all blacks of which group/Tribe Really did at least 75% or more of the slavery trades etc!

            Wake up enough blacks to whom real culprits are, and the very Next mass nationwide Riot-Loot-Burn Campaign by savage african hoards WILL be directed precicely At the true slavery masters and traders!

            Then observe just how Fast all them Dual citizens grab a fast jet plane ride to their main nation of concern, israel.

            Far as I am concerned the two biggest sniveling, whinners of being such constant “Victims” always, Blacks and Jews.

            Never Had it so swell as they have had it in America and All the Whitey folks in contains.

            NO other nation, at NO other era or time thru all recorded history has so afforded jews & blacks such a wonderfull nation, such vast opertunities, such massive wealth, such swell Treatment, etc. And for One of the two, jews who Crave protection, that too has never been done so swell for them when compared to all locations that “Hosted” their burdensome tribe, as has occured here in America with such safty for jews provided mostly By Whitey folk.

            And at NO other time in all history has ANY folks Ever so bent over backwards to NOT offend, Coddle, Pasify,Pay for, maintain, assist, jews or blacks as have american Whitey folks been doing for the Past 50+ years now.

            And just Look at How they “Thank” Us white folks and Our Nation that was Originally founded BY and For whites and christians to live Free in and possess such vast God granted Rights….Rights that NO others besides those two groups, blacks and kommie jews so Rail against daily with constant demands to stiffle Our rights in Every possible way, shape, method they can conjur up!

            Somebody best warn them of those two groups who are acting in that manor, that also in all recorded history, Nobody can keep getting away with such conduct forever.

            Call it Karma, the revenge of God, or just every day Pay Backs a royal Bitch assholes!….But once that final straw’s laid upon the Backs of whiteys, which causes their already overburdend backs to buckle, it is all going to come due day time…And like it or not whiteys still represent at least 2/3rds of the nation, and probobly possess a much larger percentile of the firearms and ammos nationwide than those two or any others groups.

            So if they need good directions to that concord bridge?

            KEEP PUSHING Fools! and You Shall locate it fast.

            • Them guys;Thanks for the truth telling! slow but sure most people are starting to “get it”As I have long ago decided to save my breath. “Its easy to fool the people,its even harder to convince them that have been fooled”! On a previous post yesterday i was asking you and pog your opinions about the jews turning on each other and was referring to this racist comment( that has the MSN attention) against Sterling the Clippers Jew owner why do you think they are going after him? To take the heat off Adelson the richer Jew?They tried the “Racist” card at the Bundy Ranch but it didn’t work to well. I would hope eventually they will turn on each other, and become cannabal as most parasites seem to do.

              • Thinker: Thanks Much! as to your question to me and pog, yes I did see it. But since I only know of this issue from reading of it Here the other day, and I hate sports since its become a religion to so many ignorant white men fools etc…I still have barley a clue of this latest racist scam issue…

                But now that you informed me that owner guys also jewish…Hmmmm…That presents a definate problem in figureing out what the swindle or scam is really about.

                the Talmudic jewish Number one main Rule is usually that while its A-Ok and even considered a huge Virtue for all jews to swindle, lie to, cheat, even Kill off, all non jew goyims as their Talmud Instructs to do…

                Rule number One is “Never do that to fellow jews”!, Thats the Only time all these things are considered a sin or crime etc…If a jew does it to another jew. So the fact that the latest racist claims and attempts at fully destroying this guys life and carear is a bit baffeling yes.

                Its kinda like those two major wall street swindle scams prior were…In One a jew scamed many rich hollywood jews and ends up with 120 yrs prison!…But when that other jewish guy, former Govner new jersey was he?…I cant now recall eithers names???….But he got away scott free clean as a whistle after swindleing $1.5 billion of investors cash and testified to congress that he knows NOT where all that cash disappeared to!

                But most of His scamed folks were Goyims probobly so for him thats a huge Virtue to Steal from non jewish goyims..

                so if I were to Guess on this latest racist issue guy?….I’d say either he Now did another jew or several jews wrong?….Or did so in Past times and now they are out for his ass..

                Although you need keep in mind how jews operate usually…They Often, I mean Many times Often “act” wrongly against fellow jews, to Gin Up support and sympathy for international jewry in general.

                Like for example aprox a year ago when that Kalif jewish women bought spray paint cans, waited till after Dark nite, smashed her cars windshield, kicked in car doors, and spray Painted nazi Sawaztikas all over her Car, house, front door to crib and us mailbox!

                Then phones 911 cops to report an “Antisemitic hate crime against her!”!!….just Look how FAST every MSM TV news show especially Faux tv news, did constant non stop reporting of the poor little jewish woman VICTIM! The VICTIM of what seems to be never ending evil Nazis hate for little jews like her!

                But a week Later after FBI and cops located Camaras across street at an apt complex across from her crib…oh Oh!…Little miss jew VICTIM, was BUSTED Big!..She got Jail time too for false filed felony paperwork with fbi and cops I think it was…

                But Thats when ALL Msm TV Faux too kinda, sorta, forgot to keep re-running broadcasts news infos and daily Updates…Thats when like ADL and SPLC act, msm’s simply act as if never happened folks!

                Its definatly a true delema when a jew guys attacked as this racist attack seems to be eh…Stay tuned Thinker…I won’t be shocked if it ends similar to That Kalif jewish women swindle scam did…Self generated to create sympathy and support for the jew man or jews In general.

                And the More awake folks we get now, the More we will see reports of poor jew victims of evil nazis and great increases of antisemtism against jewish folks…

                RESEARCH: 1972(?) Skokkie Illinois events!

                IE: when Frank Collins first came out in Public dressed as a nazi officer in Uniform! with swaztika Arm bands and the whole ball of Wax! Frank also had 4-5 Top nazi dressed LT’s and began to, with city issued proper permits etc!, Advertize his march on Skokkie. Which just happens to be the nations largest number of HolyHoax survivors dwelling in!…Talk of a Riot!…Frank tried marching, skokkie jews counterd and phys violence ensued!

                Jewish ACLU lawyer guy represented Frank Collins and his band of Neo Nazis…Nazis Won in US Supremes ct! FREE Speech cant be stiffled even if nazis is who speaks it!

                BUT!!!!!…The entire fuckin ordeal episode was a jew run swindle, Thinker!…See, seems Previous Hollywood, Tons and Tons of WWII Movies made prior Never showed ANY Gas chambers! ZERO mentions of “Six Million Jews” etc etc..

                So to Gin up new support for the “Cause”(holohoax) and related New RE-made WWII movies that NOW would include way More references to gas chanbers, evilness of nazis etc etc…Frank collins as well as ALL 4-5 LT’s of his nazi men group were all JEWISH!!!…yep and franks entire story of his dad in camps where frank got Born into a camp etc was a total Fabrication LIE!

                Read that again…Frank Collins not real name! real name was Jewish as was Frankyboy a jewish guy!…The whole Skokkie Ill events was a Fuckin set up Scam to gin up a constantly talked of Holohoax, six million jews, gas chanbers etc etc….When jews claim “never forget” it really means “Never let the BS crap, lies, scams and CASH flows TO jews End”!…once you comprehend the Twisted Minds possesed by “Many” of their tribe, Thinker…It all begins to…Gel eh….Yes of course jews at times tell truth…BUT…Like boy cried wolf…After 3500 yrs of mosty Lies designed to subdue whiteys and all other goyims under the jews master race ideals and kommie controls….Well lets just say its very difficult to know When jews are telling facts or truths eh…

                Like I say Stay Tuned likly still developing situation on new racist claims…ps let me know if you find out the truth Thinker…Thanks! Them Guys

            • Them Guys, I’m with you all the way. There is one group I hate and that’s Haitians. they are totally useless as people. As soon as they get to these shores, they go right onto the public dole. They won’t work, period! nobody can get them to do shit for themselves. Their culture is evil. they practice all that voodoo crap, with the animal sacrifice and so forth. They’ll attack you faster than American blacks would. When I lived in Miami, I had trouble with them all the time. So did my wife and the rest of the Cuban community. There is no love lost between the 2 groups. My wife was run over by a Haitian drunk driver and killed instantly. He finally got his 6 months later. My hatred of Haitians is still the same to this day. they are some mean, cold-blooded people.

            • Themguys:

              GREAT POST!

            • @Them Guys…..You did it again and Thank You. God Bless.

            • Study history… This country was NOT created for christians. The forefathers were wary of any organized religion, and for good reason.

              • Got news for you Casual Observer:

                Long before “the forefathers” got to America there was another Father, Jesus Christ, that promised Christians a nation. That nation Mr. Observer, is America.

            • It’s them there jews I tell ya. White Power ! Seig Heil !

          • I’m one ole Mississippi Delta boy that ain’t guilty one iota!! By the way, what injustices? You mean buying a bunch of jew enslaved blacks who were living in grass huts and even cooking other tribe members and eating them and furnishing them with homes, food, clothes and work while teaching them to be civilized in the greatest country the world has known. I don’t call that an injustice…a serious mistake that has been used by the jewish communists to destroy this country by making weak minded people embarrassed for something they didn’t do maybe but not an injustice.

        • Katrina Survivor

          Not until the majority of the sheeple feel the Jack Boot on their throat, will anything come about.

          Government is their friend and when they are betrayed the backlash will be extreme.

          You will hear them cry out that “This is America, you can’t do this” Oh Yeah! Make sure you scream it so they can hear you in Washington, D.C.

        • This was going on with the approval of your grandfathers generation assuming your referring to 5 decades ago. The Greatest Generation was too trusting of government. The JFK assassination and Vietnam (I fought in WW2 so I send my son to Vietnam) are two examples. Abandoning the gold standard in 1971 was on their watch also. Being a product of the great depression they were happy as long as the standard of living was rising.

          The government didn’t behave like this back then because they (actually the power elite) needed US industry and people during the cold war. They didn’t transfer our industrial capacity because they feared communist nationalization in the developing world. Another reason is that advances in technology no longer require 10% of of your population to be in the military along with the associated industrial capacity to provide them with sufficient might for the power elite to use in global conquest.

          The fact is everyone is expendable in the eyes of the power elite and the loyalty of the civilian population is directly related to their standard of living. Ninety percent plus of people that immigrated to the US did so for economic reasons not political freedom. Things are getting rocky because the standard of living is declining.

          I have the highest respect for my fathers generation which lived through the depression and won WWII. The reality is they dropped the ball watching their government content with being content. They’re no different than any other people throughout history. Its food and circus.

          • Fortunately we now have real winners like Boner, Kerry, Holder, McLame, Obama and other wise guys too numerous to mention to now guide us to the reward we so deserve.

            • Presidents aren’t elected they’re selected. JFK either bypassed this procedure or he ,”went off the reservation”. Regardless the firm control of the power elite was rapidly reestablished. I think there will be a trend in the primaries for the people to regain some control in the House of Reps. This is being countered with expanded power given to the executive branch creating an imperial Presidency. The key will be the US Supreme Court which has a mixed record.

              I think the Power Elite would leave a scorched earth before they would relinquish control.

              The Chinese proverb, “May you live in interesting times” is certainly coming true.

              • A pity that our nation is now ruled by a few persons called the supreme court. It is not loaded with leftist extremists and lesbians for no reason at all.

                Hope to see John Roberts head in a noose when this all shakes out; turncoat that he is.

                • Post WWII the US public sent her young men to fight for “freedom” and capitalism for the internationalists to exploit. In the end those young men lost their arms, legs, eyes and life so that their success would in the end do away with their good jobs at good wages.

                  We were far better off with the Berlin Wall and the threat of USSRs communism. They kept US industry home and managed the Islamic crazies in their sphere of influence no doubt inhibiting them from acts which may drawl in a US response.

                  Communism more or less defeated internationally is rearing its head domestically. The “Goose Step” is replaced with an iron fist shrouded in a velvet glove. While the glove is soft that iron fist hurts like hell.

      6. You know, it would be a damn shame if “We the People” had to start conducting business via barter or direct exchange of gold and silver instead of those very precious and long lasting Fed Notes.

        • Who is John Galt.

          • Me, and thousands of others.

        • Just where are you going to get the gold and silver? Seventy percent of American households cannot even come up with two grand if their life depended on it. So just who is going to be buying and using gold and silver? How do you set a value on the item? Face value is a buck for a silver dollar no matter what it may be worth.

      7. My credit card processing company is 2nd amendment friendly. Contact me and I will get you set up with wholesale card processing rates. Yes BOA is the worst bank out there. Usually high risk merchants are those with large charge back histories. Most any retail store front is a great business. Mail order can get tricky as you need tracking of the package to verify delivery. I do internet accts to storefronts. Mobile to flea markets. Any questions just ask. Travel industry is high risk like limo services. Gun biz is A OK with me.

        • Payment Alliance is the preferred processor of the NRA.

      8. Holder, Reid, Clinton, they all have some skeletons in the closet….

        No matter what side of the AISLE you’re on, THIS is FUNNY.
        Judy Walkman, a professional genealogy researcher in southern California , was doing some personal work on her own family tree. She discovered that Senator Harry Reid’s great-great uncle, Remus Reid, was hanged for horse stealing and train robbery in Montana, in 1889. Both Judy and Harry Reid share this common ancestor.
        The only known photograph of Remus shows him standing on the gallows in Montana territory:

        On the back of the picture that Judy obtained during her research is this inscription: ‘Remus Reid, horse thief, sent to Montana Territorial Prison 1885; escaped 1887, robbed the Montana Flyer six times. Caught by Pinkerton detectives, convicted and hanged in 1889.’

        So Judy recently e-mailed Senator Harry Reid for information about their great-great uncle.

        Harry Reid:

        Believe it or not, Harry Reid’s staff sent back the following biographical sketch for her genealogy research:

        “Remus Reid was a famous cowboy in the Montana Territory . His business empire grew to include acquisition of valuable equestrian assets and intimate dealings with the Montana railroad. Beginning in 1883, he devoted several years of his life to government service, finally taking leave to resume his dealings with the railroad. In 1887, he was a key player in a vital investigation run by the renowned Pinkerton Detective Agency. In 1889,Remus passed away during an important civic function held in his honor when the platform upon which he was standing collapsed.”
        Now THAT’s how its done, folks! That’s real Political Spin!

        They are all in cahoots with each other, to run this country in the ground, with TPTB ruling us all…
        Yall have a great evening….

        • eppe…
          That`s pure gold…and just amazing the way it was returned !

      9. Lets see, it looks like there is a symbiotic relationship going on here. The banks are allowed dramatically increased power via the demise of Glass-Steagall. They take advantage and push the window well into the criminal zone. The US Justice Department doesn’t prosecute them for breaking what remains of the law. The banks return the “favor” and attack those the government decides to harass.

        Is it fascist, communist or some new hybrid of the two?

      10. Operation Choke Point???? Choke on this Holder. I just got a 15% discount paying cash for my new shotgun from a FFL holder. Two birds with one stone: 1- purchased the gun at discount. 2- The banksters won’t get jack from this transaction.

        I think it is time for Americans to close their bank accounts, cancel their credit cards and make the banksters to get destroyed financially. Every merchants loves cash.

        • Just stock up on 80% lowers and SBR uppers plus all the parts and pieces that go into them, along with 500rnd boxes of ammo they will be worth their weight in gold

        • our credit card gives us cash rebates back through the NRA.

          Operation Pay Back
          We upped our membership through the rebates.

          • Calgagus – While I understand your point, I would bet the tribe will benefit from each transaction through one of their whorehouses called BANKS. The spiders made their web for is a total control.

      11. “In Germany they came first for the Communists, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn’t speak up because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time no one was left to speak up.”

        — by Martin Niemöller, prominent German anti-Nazi theologian and Lutheran pastor, best known as the author of the poem First they came….

        • Good Point. We are very eazy past the point of speaking or even protesting. YOu NSA are just as guilty as you sit there and track and keep a list of what we write, you should not consider yourself to be a real American anymore for doing that. If you are delete everything we say and come out on it. When the guns start blazing don’t think nobody knows who you are. People are smart and are going to start groups strong with their real patriot brothers. I’m suprised this has not boiled over to a full out assult yet. How much more proof does there need to be, before anything is done? This will always be rememberd. Make sure people keep records of this stuff for future people.
          It’s beyong belief. Now in PA they just passed you can now go thru someones car without a search warrant. Probable cause is good enough and you know what that means. Next will be our homes and what we own. When can we start and you know what I’m saying. We have to get organized very soon. I thought we would have more time. But out of 3 stages we are in stage 2 of full corrupt government. Stage 3 is when it happens and its on attack of the American people. Someone is going to have to set examples in America or nothing will be done.

          • Clint,
            I can feel the anguish in your words, I am daily at a loss to the lack of leadership within this country, that more men/women in elected office do not stand up and scream from the capital…yet so much time has passed and so many crimes against our way of life have been committed. I’m of the mind that no George Washington will even be allowed to come forward, even if he/she exists. We are on our own, do not fall prey to the assault upon us, and find a warriors detachment, remember pawns and bishops for the most are lost and controlled, a time may come that we have little choice in the matter, but that time is not now.

            • What people don’t seem to realize is that influential leaders, congressmen etc… were being spied on FIRST. Long before we found out the had begun spying on all of us. Congress, probably the white house and any other person in a powerful position, has been spied on for decades.

              I believe that only someone who has plenty of dirt on them already, can successfully get into congress, the supreme court and the white house. They simply won’t allow anyone who can’t be bribed, blackmailed or threatened to hold a position of power in this country.

              • There are some that sneak through that are bribed ex post facto. The few remaining like Ron Paul are marginalized by both party’s.

          • It seems almost every day some other piece of garbage tied to the government finds the light of day,, we are way past voting this right and the country is bankrupt. These politicians and government employees expect they are going to be taken care of with their generous retirements and benefits and bonuses,,,
            I say fuckem!
            Stop participating in normal commerce, reduce your tax liability if not eliminate it, why work 1/3 of every working day for the government? What the hell are they doing for you now? These are NOT the days of JFK and others when we still had hope, we are in a death spiral

        • This is EXACTLY where we are at right now,,
          Everybody thinks we are all crazy talking about all this stuff that they say why worry, theres nothing you can do about it….
          Really???? WTF!!!!
          Ive about had it with that one,

          • When they start chopping heads in the guillotine’s they will start to worry then. Family starts to end up in a plastic box.

          • Kulafarmer, I’m of the same mind, but unless we can focus on the true threat our anger will always be miss guided. Detach from what you feel, more than likely the battle will come to us whether we’re ready or not.
            Pick your place well, deliberate defense in the end is not as good as surprise, speed and violence of action, but we can do neither without focus of purpose.

          • wait K-Farmer..their balls will be in the vise you’ve been warning them about, soon enough.

        • How true y99. Soon, the banks won’t give you back YOUR MONEY. Haircuts for all the sheeple.

      12. EPPE: What!!!! Are you pulling our legs or is this a joke. This country will not last much longer.
        What a line of B.S!!!!!!
        If this real there is nothing they wan’t spin.
        GOD HELP US!!!!!!!
        S.T.S.F.P. N.R. N.S. N.REB

        • Made me wonder too, it was in my bank of jokes and emails.
          But it seemed to fit the jest of the article at hand, I could not tell you if it was real or not, maybe it was a joke, maybe it was real, but it does make one think of ones ancestory…
          But it did sound like the truth, did it not???

          • Except for the name Uncle Remus.

                • You live in good country to “hold out.” Been through there several times.

                  • US; Yes, it is beautiful country, got all sorts of wildlife, mixture of woods, decent people….
                    God’s country, just wished it had less ticks, chiggers, snakes, but that is what makes the world go around….

              • EPPE
                You misspelled the name it is REAM US.
                Sgt.

          • eppe: No, I have heard this…from the locals in the area. This is common knowledge…

            PKLL

      13. sorry everybody…this one’s on ME…i posted this awhile back and it looks like someone took me SERIOUSLY! the pointy knives will be next!…..we still have a constitution, don’t we? it guarantees the right to keep and bear arms. did they mention anything about the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of lives SAVED every year in america because somebody had a gun to DEFEND themselves? what, they don’t want to remove all those pointed knives from our kitchens yet? now that i think about it….what the h*ll do we need knives with points on them for? thaaaaat’s riiiight…..pointy knives DO kill people! i gotta get on this! somebody’s gotta stop those pointed knife manufacturers! we gotta legislate them guys outa business!….and why NOT just make it mandatory for grocers and food manufacturers to get all that stuff cut up BEFORE they sell it to us…..then we won’t even need BLADES in our kitchens…..my GAWD! think of the lives it will save!…hope y’all recognize sarcasm when you see it….YEESH…..time to start marchin’ is NOW!

      14. Oxymoron= Department of Justice

        That says it all.

        • about as real as the “ministry of magic”

      15. They may propose to ban any FDIC backing for me–but I am considering the possibility of opening a small bank with my targeted customers being any and all of those that operation chokepoint discriminates against with their hate and intolerance.

        With the burgeoning gun, ammo and porn industries as depositors, I could be able to even offer some interest to the common man who wanted to put money in a savings account to offset the ever increasing inflationary trends of our economy.

        I’m sure that some phony charges would be drummed up against me and the IRS would come in commando style with govt SWAT teams and beat my wife and daughters, I’d disappear and everyone’s funds would be confiscated though…will have to consider this for a while…

      16. Off Topic: Silver…almost done…

        Methicillin Resistant Staph Aureus (MRSA)
        On any given day in America there are 30,000 new cases of MRSA. This is a bacterial staph infection that has become resistant to our antibiotics. It can affect the skin, eyes, or any other part of the body. It can be fatal. Silver sol gel and silver sol liquid have been tested and documented to destroy MRSA and staph infections. To prevent these infections, drink one teaspoon of liquid silver sol twice a day and apply silver gel to the hands at least twice a day.
        MRSA can enter any wound and all of us have some form of staph bacteria on our skin at any given time. By using public restrooms, shaking hands, hugging, kissing, or any other skin- to-skin contact, you may be at risk of getting or sharing staph MRSA infections.
        Dr. Gordon Pederson
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        Parasites
        The World Health Organization estimates that one in four people have a chronic parasitic infection of some kind. It may be in the intestines, under the skin, or in the lungs. Parasites can come from the food we eat, including pork and fish. Once they are inside our bodies, they lay eggs. The eggs hatch and take up residence in the body, and then the process is repeated. It is important to get rid of parasites permanently.
        Silver sol can help. It does not kill all parasites, but it does help in the intestines, in the blood, and with leichmaniasis. Silver sol will need to be used for three months, as the lifecycles of each generation of parasites is about 45 days. During this time, drink two teaspoons twice a day. Black walnut hulls, digestive cleansing, and milk thistle will also help the process.
        Pet Use
        You can use silver sol liquid or gel for your pet. If a pet weighs 20 pounds, it should receive one fourth of the human dosage. In most cases, pets take one fourth to one sixth of the normal human dose, but they can safely take up to quadruple doses when they have a problem.
        Pneumonia
        Pneumonia is an inflammatory illness of the lung and is caused by both viruses and bacteria. The lungs can become so filled with fluid that asphyxiation occurs. Silver sol can destroy the bacteria or the viral infection that causes pneumonia. The recommended dosage is two teaspoons, two to four times a day; 15 minutes of inhalation from a nebulizer; and intranasal spray twice a day to reduce congestion. You should expect to see benefits in the first 12 hours. In severe cases an IV protocol is an option (see also Cancer).
        Post Surgical
        Surgery opens the possibility of infection in wounds, stitches, and incisions. Hospital-acquired methicillin-resistant staph aureus infections (MRSA) are one of the most dangerous infections you can get. Silver sol gel should be applied to the wound, stitches, and the surrounding area immediately after surgery. This will prevent infection, help wound healing, and reduce scarring.
        Poultice
        Silver gel can be placed on a body part and then wrapped in place as a poultice. This allows the wound to remain uncontaminated and to improve quicker. Silver poultice has been used in horses for years to treat infections. It can be mixed with any other desired herbs.
        Prostate Disease
        A prostate is the gland that closes off the flow of urine from the bladder. When the prostate relaxes, urine will flow out of the bladder and into the toilet. The prostate gland then tightens back up on the ureter and stops the urine flow. Over time, the prostate muscle becomes bigger. If it becomes infected with bacteria, it will swell and become too large and shut off the flow of urine, making you unable to urinate.
        Silver sol can destroy the bacteria that cause the prostatitis. By drinking two teaspoons twice a day you will have enough circulating in your system to go through your urine and kill the bacteria in your bladder and prostate. Some people have felt a benefit by placing the gel between the rectum and scrotum. Using saw palmetto twice a day should also reduce inflammation in the prostate. For those who have access to a catheter, 2 oz. of liquid silver sol can be pumped directly into the catheter and into the bladder for ten minutes where it will kill pathogens.
        Psoriasis
        Psoriasis is a disorder that affects the skin and joints. It commonly causes red scaly patches to appear on the skin. This condition makes you very susceptible to secondary bacterial infection getting into the cracked areas of the skin.
        To fight the bacteria, apply silver sol gel two to four times a day, keeping skin, wounds, or rashes very moist. Drink one teaspoon of silver sol liquid twice daily. For very dry, scaly skin, silver sol liquid and gel can be mixed with Vaseline (one part gel, liquid, and Vaseline). This will keep the affected areas moisturized for a much longer period of time. Aloe vera can also be used and mixed with the gel. This will help with the most difficult situations, including Morgellon’s disease.

      17. But Eric does your choke point applies to drug cartels as well or they get pre paid AK’s.

      18. Isn’t bank discrimination a hate crime? What if the porn star is black?…a double discrimination.

      19. Speaking od scandals…here’s one you probably won’t see on lamestream media either-

        In Colorado: American HS Students Taught To Say Pledge In Arabic: ‘One Nation Under Allah’

        At Rocky Mountain High School in Fort Collins, Colorado, is facing a hailstorm of criticism from some very angry parents and residents.

        The school recites the Pledge of Allegiance weekly, on Mondays. Last Monday, a member of their “Cultural Arms Club” led the student body in an Arabic version of the pledge, replacing the words “under God” with “under Allah.”

        Principal Tom Lopez denies any attempt to push an Islamic agenda, saying, “These students love this country. They were not being un-American in trying to do this. They believed they were accentuating the meaning of the words as spoken regularly in English.”
        Given their youth, the high school students might understandably not recognize the problems with proclaiming America as “one nation under Allah.” The grownups should and they ought to be controlling the activity.

        The Muslim Brotherhood front group CAIR chimed in saying, “Obviously in Arabic, you would use the word Allah, but Christian Arabs would use the word Allah.” Their spokesperson, Ibrahim Hooper, claimed use of the word Allah is “not necessarily specific to Islam and Muslims.” From an American point of view, it is, whether he is technically correct or not, to Americans, in America, it’s a specific Muslim and Islamic reference.

        CAIR representative Hooper told Fox News he was dumbfounded by complaints about the Arabic version of the pledge.

        “How on earth is it un-American to recite the Pledge of Allegiance in another language,” Hooper asked. “It doesn’t make sense unless the people complaining are anti-Muslim or anti-middle eastern bigots.”

        It just might be that Americans recognize the Islamic agenda, Mr. Hooper, and are tired of having it forced upon them. Maybe we know what you are up to and people are pushing back.

        • Socrates:
          Well I guess I’m a biggot and anti-muslim.
          I my country the plege is recited in ENGLISH and it is ONE NATION UNDER GOD.
          If you don’t like it them don’t say it.
          And by the way you can all ways leave and go back to your country of origan and say that pledge.
          I can’t go back I’m 1/8 Cherokee and 1/8 White Water.
          I don’t care if I get all thumbs down. DEAL WITH IT!!!!
          S.T.S.F.P. N.R. NS. N.REB

          • Woah…hold on a minute there hoss. 😉

            I simply posted the article to bring it to everyone’s attention- doesn’t mean I condone or agree with it- far from it. In light of the soviet propaganda lines posted by River Rat the other day (Lenin playbook)and the materials I posted, it is beyond apparent that they are removing GOD from everything and anything they can.

            This is just another example of what they are doing and how they sneak it in. Didn’t mean to get ya all riled up. 🙂 Thumbs up from me my friend.

            • Socrates:
              I know N.R. and he wasn’t yelling at you. If I know him as well as I think I do he is agreeing with you 100%. He is just venting, any time he sees some one or some thing pissing on the Flag or our Country he gets really PISSED.

              As for me I think that the School board should fire the Principle, and Superintendent.
              Sgt.

          • Northern Reb, Socrates was only bringing that article to our attention. I feel the same as you about it. Socrates, thanks for the heads up.

        • Especially since Muslim countries (Brunei and Malaysia to name a few) ban non-Muslims from saying the word “Allah.”

        • @ Socrates. Here is more about just how evil the quran is and is nothing but the devil’s handbook to suffering, violence, and death to anyone that is not muslim:

          http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/023-violence.htm

          Don’t be mislead by the site name. Religion of peace is a direct sarcasism of what muslims will try to fool people into thinking. There are 109 verses in the quran that talk about war with non islamic believers. A really evil book for an evil religion that has brought so much ugly torture to billions over the centuries since 600 AD.

          • Once again BI, I ask you if you think mooslums are in charge of our government, the banksters, the plans for the one world order, and all the things you rail about.

            What the hell is your hang up on the mooslums when you dont have the courage to call out the real ptb; or to tell people there is another religion? that is truly behind the schemes of the PTB.

            I ask you if you had ever read any of the Talmud and I am still waiting your answer. It makes the Koran look like childs play BI.

            Quit the BI BS about the mooslums. Hell, you still dont know who our real enemies are. Ever read the Bible, BI. Apparently you dont believe who Jesus said is the real enemy. Is Jesus a liar, BI?

            Sometimes I think you have fooled a lot of people here at shtf. I think you claim to be a Christian; funny you dont know who Christians enemies are.

            I dont believe the mooslums religion either BI. But you know who Jesus said our enemies were…..

            ANY RELIGION THAT DOES NOT BELIEVE IN CHRIST IS THE ANTI CHRIST. Don’t have to believe me, it is written over and over in the Good Book. Jews and their Talmud do not believe in Christ and they are vicious in their account of him and are destroying everything Christian in this nation.

            What dont you get??? You pride yourself on being intelligent yet you still do not know your enemy or are you a jew?

      20. I look forward to seeing Holder prosecuted for criminal interference in interstate commerce by his successor.

      21. Well, good thing I acquired my ar15 then. Banksters and government in bed with each other. Who would’ve thought? We can sit here and huff all day on this site or we can prepare for what looks like will be a battle on our hands. I was holding my daughter earlier today, and the fact that she might grow up in a totalitarians fascist state was more than I could take. I don’t want my child to be a slave to the system.

      22. In this article it is talking about Georgia seeking a fast track to NATO membership. Something that Russia CANNOT allow and would mean a very highly likely immediate invasion of Georgia.

        http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-04-30/u-s-signals-putin-not-to-move-against-new-nato-members.html?cmpid=yhoo

        Also in this article under Article 5 in the NATO treaty that any attack on one means an attack on all. This is in reference to the three ex-Soviet Baltic States that are now Russian. Many Russians suffer in these countries, at least that is what Russia says and would give it an excuse to attack the governments there in a subtle way or an all out invasion. Would NATO end up getting the world blown up the world for three ex-USSR countries. ????????

        The big problem with the Baltic states is the 1997 Founding Act between Russia and NATO in which the U.S. is just beginning to violate by bringing heavy weapons into Estonia, Lithuania, or Latvia.

        http://www.departments.bucknell.edu/russian/const/founding.html

        The U.S. was recently calling foul because of medium range type nuclear ready missiles are being deployed by Ruusia. A treaty signed banning this in the Reagan days. Yet the U.S. has trashed the anti-missile treaty signed in the 1970’s.

        Just like the anti-missile treaties, and other nuclear arms treaties that are being trashed it is becoming a “no holds barred” death match each week between the U.S. and Russia. Just like Socrates said weeks ago, each side pushing a little harder each time until someone takes a swing and then GAME OVER.

      23. The best way to protect your guns rights,IS TO BUY MORE GUNS!!!!
        Heard that somewhere and it seems to make sense.

      24. Long ago there lived a brave seafarer named Captain Bravo. He was a courageous man who showed no fear in facing his enemies.

        One day, while sailing the seven seas, a lookout spotted a pirate ship, and the crew became frantic. Captain Bravo bellowed, “Bring me my red velvet jacket.”

        The First Mate quickly retrieved the captain’s red velvet jacket, and, after donning the jacket, the captain led his crew into battle and defeated the pirates.

        Later on, the lookout spotted not one, but two pirate ships. The captain again howled for his red velvet jacket and once again vanquished the pirates.

        That evening, all the men sat around on the deck recounting the day’s triumphs, and one of them asked the captain: “Sir, why did you call for your red velvet jacket before each battle?”

        The captain replied: “If I am wounded in the attack, my crew won’t notice my bleeding and will continue to fight, unafraid.”

        All of the men sat in silence and marveled at the courage of their captain.

        As dawn came the next morning, the lookout spotted not one, not two, but TEN pirate ships approaching. The rank and file all stared at the captain and awaited his usual request.

        Captain Bravo calmly shouted, “Bring me my brown corduroy pants!”

        • EPPE
          Dog gone it I was reading this early this morning and I just spit my Cherrio’s onto the computer screen. A great start to another rainy day.
          Sgt.

        • Eppe, DAMN, you know how to make jokes. keep them coming.

      25. This is a symptom of a diseased system. Like I said the other day insanity is doing the exact same thing but expecting different results. This is just another avenue, but the destination remains the same.

      26. Wait a minute!! This story was hatched by the crew over at Alex Jones’ outfit. Sorry to sound skeptic, but Alex is a nut case, in my opinion. He’s been proven to be somewhat disingenuous in the past. Believe if you want, but I’d look for other, more reliable sources of info than Alex Jones.

        • There’s an opinion peace about Operation Choke Point in the Wall Street Journal by Frank Keating.

          Prohibition brought about the first great depression. Now its being used to bring about a second one as well.

      27. This is a section of an article “Russia shows off its leaner, meaner military during Ukraine Crisis”, from GlobalPost website.

        In the Cold War era, much of Russia’s army was built around theoretically giant but effectively skeleton divisions of officers and equipment that would be fleshed out with conscripts or reservists to operate during war. Many have now been replaced with much smaller brigades staffed at full strength and drilled with snap exercises to test battle readiness.

        Preplanned exercises have also become larger, often held in border areas, which reminds neighbors what they could be up against if they get on the wrong side of Putin.

        August’s Zapad-13 exercise in Belarus involved up to 70,000 personnel plus bombers, fighters and about 30 warships. Training took place close to the Baltic state and Polish borders and, some Western officials say, appeared to conclude with a mock nuclear strike on a NATO member state.

        Notice that last sentence, (a mock nuclear strike on a NATO member state). This exercise was last year in August. A mock nuclear strike. Russia has been readying for a possible nuclear war BEFORE any of this started. AND the U.S. and NATO is f’ing with them like some ape pulling the pin out of a grenade.

        Like what was said on the Alex Jones show: “Russia doesn’t make stuff up. They didn’t with Napolean or Hitler and they are not going to make it up now. You come up against their borders and they will attack you”.

      28. So…doesn’t America have building societies or credit unions like the rest of the planet ?
        I haven’t used a bank for 20 years now !
        Building Societies and CU’s will do both personal AND business accounts !
        Plus the upside of screwing the banks when you close your account 😉

      29. So, the government charges people to acquire an FFL, issues them, then turns around and tells banks not to do business with them. Brilliant, just brilliant.

      30. There are two pivotal issues that define the banking industry, and not just in this country. First is the Banker’s Rule. The Banker’s Rule is actually an algorithm for lending money. It is NOT an algorithm for borrowing money, because the algorithm is stacked in favor of the Banker. For example, (I)nterest=(P)rincipal * (R)ate * (T)ime, is the Banker’s Rule for calculating a loan. The Fair Credit Reporting Act even requires the Bankers to provide the terms of the loan in writing AND to state the APR (annual percentage rate) so borrowers have a better idea of what they are getting into. But Time is calculated on a 360-day year, NOT a 365-day year. If you divide by 360 instead of 365, you get a larger number. Like this — take $10K (the loan) at 10% (the rate) times 6 months (180 days), divided by 360. Your sum should be $500. BUT, if you take the same formula and divide by 365, you will get 493.15, a calculation clearly favoring the Bank. Now multiply that $6.84931 times all the mortgages, car loans, home improvement loans, school loans — you get the idea, and that’s a clear revenue stream for the Bank. That’s one of the ways banks used to make money before they got so bold as to piddle away your deposits.

        The second issue we created ourselves — let’s imagine that you are elected POTUS. You ran on a platform of real honesty, values, morals and you have every intention of righting the wrongs, and saving our country from the clutches of facisim. Jamie Dimon, Bryan Moynihan and Michael Corbat (the CEOs of JP Morgan, Bank of America and Citi) all stroll into your oval office and pull up chairs. They say to you, Mr. President, we will make you and your family rich beyond your wildest dreams for the NEXT 100 YEARS if you’ll just show us favoritism over the next four years. Who among you would turn that down? Who among you COULD turn that down? Nobody could turn that down. And THAT is the inherent problem we face with the Banksters. Until we fix that, all the regulations and banking/finance rules don’t mean shit. And I dunno…does it seem to you like they’re interested in fixing it?

        • Great post, but you forgot one small but important detail. When the banksters offer these riches to the new president, they also put a gun to his head to make sure he takes the deal!!!

      31. NEWSFLASH! ….NEW WORLD ORDER CONSPIRACY THEORISTS WARN THAT THE FBI INTENDS TO ATTACK AMERICA AND COMMIT TERRORIST ACTS AGAINST AMERICA AND AMERICANS!

        • yeah, it was buried below the obits on the second to last page of the local rags.

      32. This is one strong arm tactic by the DOJ that everyone can participate in defeating. If everyone would just take their banking business elsewhere, the banks would soon be the ones closing. Stop letting the govt. control everything you do and say and start standing up to them.

      33. Jamie Dimon, Bryan Moynihan and Michael Corbat (the CEOs of JP Morgan, Bank of America and Citi) all stroll into your oval office and pull up chairs. They say to you, Mr. President, we will make you and your family rich beyond your wildest dreams for the NEXT 100 YEARS if you’ll just show us favoritism over the next four years. Who among you would turn that down? Who among you COULD turn that down?

        in the Godfather voice…”I will make them an offer they can’t refuse.” (Classic Brando, GRHS)

        And if they do refuse…they will just get nail-gunned.

        (much sarcasm but not really…blackdog’s post is correct)

      34. Screw all the banks too

      35. Look into who owns all the gold and silver mines in this country..it aint us

        are you getting royalty checks for OUR resources? you know the ones, the ones this government are screwing you and I out of.

        Just look at the state of Nevada alone, and all the foreign country companies and corps here mining OUR resources

        you can bet some politician is getting his cut….

        • ENN scored big when Clark County commissioners unanimously voted to sell the Chinese company the public land for just $4.5 million, despite the fact that it was appraised at $38.6 million. Sen. Reid has been one of ENN’s biggest supporters, having recruited the company during a 2011 trip to China. According to Reuters, last month Sen. Reid tried to “pressure Nevada’s largest power company, NV Energy, to sign up as ENN’s first customer.” Both Rory Reid and Harry Reid deny having ever discussed the $5 billion Chinese solar panel plant deal: “I have never discussed the project with my father or his staff,” said Rory Reid. Kristen Orthman, a spokeswoman for the senator, said he had not discussed the project with his son.

          • as if we are to believe Harry Reid or his treasonous son, yeah right they never discussed it..lol

            everything shows otherwise

            thanks for bringing this up Six, I was looking for that

      36. Wish I had a method for accurately forecasting Putin’s next move like earthquakes. Just had a 6.7 in the New Caledonia area. This is right on the area of the Australian plate that was predicted to have a major earthquake on Comment# 3042743, on April 28, 8:15 PM with the Is Beast amoung us? article. The planet predicts and sends warnings before a major earthquake on these precursor plate boundaries almost everytime. The other areas mentioned definitely remain hot and dangerous. I don’t like the tension signatures coming from Alaska to down to California. Mexico and Central America also are quite dangerous right now to anyone that lives down there. More precursor quakes should show where the next major quake is due.

        • No one can predict his next move. We can only look at what he has already done—less the propaganda and western spin.

      37. Insanity. We saw hints of this several years ago around the time the MIAC document came out.

      38. some gun store owner should open his own bank and fund ONLY gun shops..capitalism void in the making

        come on, someone piss off Holder. do the American thing and make his policy or action useless

        • I was thinking the exact same thing.

        • Does it have holes to shoot out through???

      39. All of this is to take our minds off of The Economy, WW3., Mr. Bundy, and all the rest of the BullShit that he and Obullshit has done to this country.

        ONE OF THESE DAYS VERY SOON THEY WILL DO SOMETHING, AND THAT STRAW WILL BREAK THE CAMELS BACK. For me yesterday wasn’t soon enough!

        This S.O.B. will try to close down legitimate stores by cutting off money, but will give money, medical, and education to illegal aliens. What a bunch of SH#*!!!!

        I want to why or Senators and Congressmen are so afraid of the P.O.S. This S.O.B. should have been in jail a long time ago. We thought the Clintons killed everything that came in front of them. They don’t hold a candle to Obullshit and Holder!

        I think I know why. Do you guys really think that if this was a White man with a white Pres. (REP.) would they still be in power. Hell no they wouldn’t. What Obullshit and Holder have done has cost many lives. Nixon was impeached of lying about a break in to the DNC. What Nixon did was wrong and should have been impeached. What these guys have done, these clowns should be in JAIL. Clinton for a B.J. was impeached, He lied to.

        Look, I have black friends, and they all tell me that Obullshit and Holder are a joke and an embarrassment to the black race.

        Sorry for the Rant, but I had to get it off of my chest. If I get a lot of red thumbs that is OK, because this how I fell.
        A.S.M.S.
        Sgt.

        • Sgt, being ur age & knowing what 2 do is all the mature folks are waiting for. It’s all bull & AMERICA IS TIRED. We are all ready. Thank U SIR.

      40. Is Holder doing this to any black gun shop owners..?

        • oh, i see its been said earlier by Da Yooper..so I gave him his 30th green thumb

      41. Holder and his policy of disparate impact is a must read. Nationwide he is forcing counties to downgrade crimes committed by black males. He is emptying prisons of thousands of black criminals. He claims they are non-violent. If you know anything about the system and plea bargaining, you know this is not true. He has ordered corporations to stop doing felony background checks on blacks if the corporation can’t fill the quotas. So your family members might be working next to a convicted rapist or murderer and not know it. Holders’ actions are an act of racial aggression against all Americans. Just like “Fast and Furious” this will cause a spike in violent crimes around America. Isn’t that what he really wants? That way he can pass more gun control. After all it’s the guns, right?

        • Poon Tang:

          Onr thing about it, lawyers and judges have just guaranteed their income for the next umpteen years when most of those criminals are back in court for new offenses.

          But before that happens the criminals will have voted. Sorry assed situation when you have to court criminals and illegals to assure yourself a government position.

          Sometimes I wish I were Rip Van Winkle. Just let me sleep and wake me up when all this craziness is obliterated.

          • Holder=Just one More Uppity antiwhite Spooly Headed Monky.

            You go where he’s at and play 3 seconds of ANY Black Rap crap music sounds, then observe holders Imeadiate actions!

            100% guarenteed hes going to jump outa his seat, take that usual blackman crouch that resembles an Ape or Gorilla stance…Slight bend in Knees region, Butt sticks out alot, Right Arm Raised as High as possible with right hand balled into a Fist….Fist Pumping the air above raised arm…Butt rocking and rolling in and out back and forth…..While his voice resembles Gutteral ebonic type Jungle mania grunts and vastly sounds like a real Gorilla or Ape as n…”ugh Ugh Ugh Ou Ou Ou”

            And he will Remain in that state of mind and actions as long as that vile rap sound lasts.

            The ones worse even do the same “dance” even when NO rap sounds can be heard for miles!…Dance that way just to do it often.

            I have Never yet questioned as to why God desided to locate african blacks IN africa jungles when the tower of babble fell and the races and languages were seperated etc….Its always been quite obvious to me as to why they got seperated so far away from white folks.

            And its 100% proof that every lib kommie dem racial, multicultic, diversity plan or agenda Has and always WILL Fail abjectly so!

            How any libs can comprehend that even something as small and insignificant as a snowflake is created different than all other snowflakes, a scientific Fact and well Proven too…NO two flakes are “Equal” NOR “Same”.

            Yet the same libs can be at same time so idiotic to actually believe their nonsensical ideas that something as Complex as Humans are Can be the “same” and “Equal”?

            Theres ZERO Hope for such fools.

      42. you know what you do when a phony politico like Holder does shit like this?

        you go out and buy more guns and ammo, and you stand your ground

        this is about all of us..their plan is against us at all odds

      43. The head of the Defense Intelligence Agency is being pushed out of the job after a series of clashes over his leadership at an agency that is under pressure to shift focus following more than a decade of war, current and former U.S. officials said.
        More Upper Military pushed out..do we even have any leaders in the military any longer? or just a bunch of Obamas yes men?

        watch yer back folks,,were being set up

        Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn is expected to announce Wednesday that he is leaving his job as director of the Defense Intelligence Agency more than a year before he was scheduled to depart, according to officials who said that Flynn faced mounting pressure from Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr. and others in recent months.

      44. If you are a Freedom loving, 2nd Amendment supporting American. You should watch some liberal channel and select a product or service. Call them. And tell them you won’t buy their product or service due to them advertizing on an anti-American channel.

        One call a day by thouands or 10’s of thousands will have an impact. Starve the libtard channels until they go under financially.

      45. http: // stopthechoke . com/

        This is straight up Mussolini corporatism. They’re shutting down entire industries such as pornography, gambling, tobacco, payday loans, ammunition, guns, home based businesses, and dozens of industries in secret.

        This is capital control. This is destruction of the free market.

      46. I hope they find a work around this, and I hope to see cry baby Holder bitch about it

        Our Rights are unalienable and come from God;
        The purpose of civil government is to protect our God-given Rights;
        Civil government is legitimate only when it operates with our consent; &
        Since the US Constitution is the formal expression of the Will of the People, the federal government operates with our consent only when it obeys the Constitution

      47. Did the government buy all that ammo to prevent citizens from having it and to create shortages?

        This is another example of government waste. Our tax dollars at work.

        GAO Report: The Pentagon plans to destroy $1.2 billion in ammunition amid widespread ammo shortages for private citizens.

        “According to a Government Accountability Office (GAO) report acquired by USA Today, the ammunition is being destroyed because the Pentagon does not know what ammunition is new and viable and what is not.”

        Breitbart dot com

      48. Is this anyway to treat a DOJ, let alone a POTUS.

        I’m SHOCKED they’re shocked.

      49. http://www.8newsnow.com/story/25396688/i-team-police-say-bundy-ranch-protesters-not-off-the-hook

        seems they should have played their Opsec a little closer to the vest

        masks? Camo faces? covered their vehicles license plates even?

        you can bet when one or two disperse to go home or into town or what ever they will end up in a traffic stop from hell
        dont do this cops..show the country this isnt the police state we all know it is

        Hey cops if you dont like guns pointed at you, maybe you should’nt be doing the politicos or the governments dirty work for them, eh?

        as if they werent pointing their guns at innocent people too..

        lesson learned from this..Hide your identity ..even when your right
        They hide theirs ..time to take a lesson

        • theres more in Moderation
          and a link

          “At some point, you have to draw a line in the sand. I guess this is it,” one militia member said.

          “They’re armed, they have an agenda, and they’re committed to whatever they believe in, no backing down. One or two of them would never have done what they did–point weapons at us–but when you have 300-400 and they can be anonymous in a crowd, you get caught up in that,” Sgt. Jenkins said.

          Lombardo confirms that Metro developed a lot of intelligence about militia members who were present. Those who aimed their guns at officers will be dealt with.

          “Yes, there will be consequences, definitely. That is unacceptable behavior. If we let it go, it will continue into the future,” Lombardo said.

          Law enforcement sources told us that federal officials are preparing to move against Cliven Bundy, but they might wait months until things die down before making their move.

          Metro Police could take separate action in response to the provocations they experienced in Bunkerville and may be working to identify particular suspects.

          You can bet if they got their face on camera, they are coming for their gun rights..even if they didnt point a gun..they will say they did

          watch yer back..have camo paint will travel

          • And ,…the so called “feds” had sniper rifles 50 cal aimed at citizens for no apparent reasons
            whats fair is fair

            • VRF.

              Yes the snipers were used as intimidation and Fair Is Fair.

              No doubt there will be a fight with either the FED or Local Law Enforcement.

              Because they want to show you who is the boss, right or wrong!

          • VRF:

            They have got to keep the intimidation going. The feds and their bosses know the Bundy fiasco is only a small part of what is on their agenda for America.

            They want to do whatever it takes to discourage any Patriot from stepping up to the plate. Sure wonder who to contact to see if any of the Patriots involved have been harassed, or worse.

            This clip shows you exactly where most law enforcement will stand; and how all Patriots will be painted in the future.

        • VRF-

          Excellent advice!

      50. WOW, I thoroughly enjoy the opinions expressed here on SHTF. On the other hand, the fast slide into total tyranny makes me so damned depressed I can’t take it anymore. It is hard to remain stable and realize just what we are up against. It is truly mind numbing, IMO.

      51. aljamo.

        “Rock and Rolla, Cola Wars, I can’t take it anymore.”
        Billy Joel.

        It is all fun and games until the lead flies. All contained by Political Correctness. Race Relations classes, Social Awareness and other societal programs to control the masses.

        I believe this country is going to come apart. Too much Hate and many wanting Revenge. You can use race or religion, social status or political affiliation but it may only be, being perceived as a threat, that may get you killed.

        Let the Games Begin.

      52. Alex “no solution” Jones………..yawn. Alex just keeps piling on “info” in his “war” against your sanity……yawn. He’s a good actor though………..yawn

      53. @ Pissed of Granny. I am fulfilling your request for an answer. You don’t have to become TOO pissed off, I have been away from the computer much this week. First of all I can’t stand what muslims do to women, children, and animals. This cult is not organized like you talk about the NWO. I fully understand that. I understand that many Jewish people own like what seems like everything. Jewish people in general, NOT the ones at the top, are just regular folks. I have known many Jewish people and yes they are taught that money is everything, but they are not people that go around supporting other Jews strapping bombs on to their backs and blowing up a bunch of innocent people. Most muslims that call themselves moderates secretly do.

        In Israel they have stopped expermenting on animals for the reason of medical quackery, but also because it is torture. In this country millions of animals are tortured each month for cosmetic research. Jewish people are quite intelligent, muslims are the stupidest people alive on the planet. Jewish people never condone direct attacks on children. Muslims constantly murder a little kids, especially Coptic Christians. Jewish people again are good to their pets, at least from all those I have known. One Jewish person spent about $20,000 to save their dog. Muslims are terrible to their pets. I heard of one arab beating his pet monitor lizard with an electric cord. The animal was rescued inan almost petrified state of fear.

        I have known Christain, and people that have no religion at all that are very kind and good to their family and pets. I have personally not known one muslim that had a pet and was particularly good to them. This one muslim I knew had this Dindo dog and just fed them and the dog looked through the fence all the time wanting some attention. I know there are exceptions, but I have not personally seen them. The Middle Eastern people that I respected were all NOT muslim. They were either no religion, Christian, or some orthodox religion.

        Back to your Talmud question. OF COURSE there are devils in ALL religions. Religion as well as any power structure begs the question of how much power corrupts. Absolutely. This does not translate to regular people that simply have regular jobs and regular lives. There are these little Jewish temples all over the place and these people that go to them don’t subscribe to some grand plot of controlling the banking industry or anything else. They go and they prey, that is it. They prey to God. Their defintion of God is different than Christian, and of course different than Jehovah’s witnesses, but these Jewish people simply want answers like we all do to God and the universe.

        The pure evil you talk about are these fu$%$en inbreds that are part of secret socities, the Masons, devil cults, etc. They are part of all sorts of religions and ancient dangerous beliefs. These a$$holes have a section that are Jewish, but this is hardly but a small fraction of all the Jewish people. There might be one or two individuals associated with this pure evil within a very large Jewsih temple. As I said most Jewish people are just regular people that one day will be the same victims like everyone else of these evil elitists that think of themselves as demi Gods. I totally agree that these evil bastards and bitches at the top think of all of us less than serfs.

        Why I get on islam is because of what the regular muslim is like. You have millions of muslims that are savages. Again, you don’t see hundreds of thousands of Jewish people or Christians going out and hundreds dying because someone printed a cartoon. These regular muslims go out and riot and people die because they had the prophet muhammad screwing a pig. Do you realize how utterly stupid that is. Hundreds of people dying because of a cartoon?

        You bet I think islam and sharia law is the devil’s religion. I have linked video on this site of a bunch of barbaric muslims around someone sawing off the head of some other muslim with a kitchen knife. All these demons were cheering like some headhunters in some south Pacific Island. I don’t see any other religion practicing this other than islam. That is my hang up on islam, it is a religion of pure hate and murder. These elitist bankers are not all just Jewish, there are plenty of other weird cults mixed in there. When I see regular folks acting like chimpanzees and islam tied to, that shows what a terrible devil cult it really is.

        • BeInformed:

          Thanks for your reply.

          Have you ever read “The Sign of the Scorpion” by Juri Lina. I suggest you take a look to see what real butchers look like. You can call up the pdf free and read it for yourself.

          To date, I believe, no one has killed off more Christian people than the Bolsheviks did in Russia. Men, women, and children, BI, and they were not mooslums, the government hoodlums were jews.

          You tend to give a pass to the good jews. Where are those good jews at who are defending the American Constitution and defending free speech, the right to worship Jesus Christ, asking that God not be removed from everything in America. Where are they, BI?

          If you bother to look up who is behind all the organizations that are stomping on our freedoms and erasing Christianity out of the US , look deep, BI. You will not find it mooslum led, behind the scenes you will find a jew, leading the parade.

          You do not want to lump all jews in the same pile, yet you lump all mooslums together.

          I can tell you that the evil people who are at the top of the heap destroying our nation, destroying Christianity, controlling all the evil legislation coming from our congress, controlling our money system sure as hell aint mooslums, BI, they are jews.

          You seem to want to be a good upstanding Christian patriot on shtf but your “blame it on the mooslums bs” is just parroting what the MSM and their controllers want the citizens of America to believe. They do not want you to dig past the bs rhetoric to see who is pulling the strings at the top.

          How many mooslums own the msm, how many are aipac members, how many are controlling congress, how many own the federal reserve, how many control the money through The City of London, how many of them BI.

          There are people all over the world of all races and religions that are mistreating their children, their dogs, their cats, BI. But I am more interested in who is taking my God, Jesus Christ out of my beloved America, who is destroying the very foundation of America and who is bent on owning the world and every soul in it. It aint the mooslums, BI.

          Ever see the commercial of the poor people in israelie begging for a care box from us, BI. Those old people look mighty mistreated to me. Is that commercial a lie BI or is that the way jews treat their old people. That commercial is not about mooslims mistreating those old jews is it BI.

          You have bought into the the msm bs, BI. If there is anyway the zionist jews can ratchet up the anti- mooslum rhetoric and cause another false flag to blame on them; to get the American moms and dads to send their beloved kids to die in their scheme for world dominance I can assure you, BI, they are working out the logistics as I type.

          The zionist jews are proud of your posts, they are smiling knowing you are promoting their agenda. I am not smiling.

      54. Thank God most sensible people already have what they need.
        Unfortunately, I lost mine in a boating accident and all I have
        left is a machete !

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