Grounbreaking Research: Scientist Terminated for Proving Dinosaurs and Humans Walked the Earth Together

by | Jul 25, 2014 | Headline News | 458 comments


dinosaur-human-2Traditional history suggests that dinosaurs and humans never crossed paths because their existence on earth was separated by tens of millions of years.

But a new discovery by scientist Mark Armitage of the California State University may well turn the history of human civilization upside down.

Armitage was recently on a dig in Montana when he came across the largest triceratops horn ever unearthed. Upon further examination of the unique specimen with a high-powered microscope Armitage discovered something that no scientist had ever seen on a dinosaur sample before – soft tissue.

When he published his findings his colleagues were stunned, because the existence of soft tissue, which should degrade and disappear over millions of years, suggests that dinosaurs didn’t go extinct 60 million years ago, but rather, were alive and well in North America just several thousand years ago.

One would think that such a notable discovery would lead to more research into the possibility that humans and dinosaurs may have co-existed at one point in time. But that’s far from what happened.

Armitrage’s funding was pulled, his research was silenced and his job at CSU was terminated.

Apparently, the researcher’s findings were so significant that the board of trustees at the university feared it would too closely mesh science with religion.

One university official even made it a point to let Armitrage know why he was let go. “We are not going to tolerate your religion in this department,” he was quoted as saying.

The official’s statement stems from the notion that the history of the Christian Bible is roughly 6,000 to 10,000 years old, a point that some scientists often use to laugh off any possibility that there is truth to it. Scientists argue that since the bones of dinosaurs are over 60 million years old, the Bible couldn’t possibly hold a shred of truth because the creation story told in the first book of Genesis is, at most, just ten thousand years.

But the new discovery may shed light on the mysterious creatures mentioned in the Bible’s Old Testament. The earlier books of the bible may not have mentioned Triceratops or other dinosaurs by name, but they do make reference to tanniyn and behemoth, interpreted by some scholars as a large serpent, reptile, dragon, or even sea-monster.

These creatures did, indeed, cross paths with humans accordingly to the historical record detailed in the Christian Bible.

Behold, Behemoth, which I made as I made you; he eats grass like an ox. Behold, his strength in his loins, and his power in the muscles of his belly. He makes his tail stiff like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are knit together. His bones are tubes of bronze, his limbs like bars of iron.

Job 40:15-18

Yet, up until now, no hard scientific research confirmed that such large animals with reptile-like skin existed.

Armitrage’s discovery of soft tissue adds physical evidence to biblical record. And apparently, that threatened an upheaval in the scientific community, subsequently leading to Armitrage’s termination.

A press release from the Pacific Justice Institute argues that Armitrage was terminated on the basis of religion for sharing a controversial theory and providing evidence for such:

“Terminating an employee because of their religious views is completely inappropriate and illegal,” commented Brad Dacus, President of PJI. “But doing so in an attempt to silence scientific speech at a public university is even more alarming. This should be a wakeup call and warning to the entire world of academia,” he continued.

While at a dig at Hell Creek formation in Montana, the scientist, Mark Armitage, came upon the largest triceratops horn ever unearthed at the site. When examining the horn under a high-powered microscope back at CSUN, Armitage was fascinated to see the soft tissue. The discovery stunned members of the scientific community because it indicates that dinosaurs roamed the earth only thousands of years in the past rather than going extinct 60 million years ago.

According to court documents, shortly after the original soft tissue discovery, a university official challenged the motives of Armitage, by shouting at him, “We are not going to tolerate your religion in this department!”

Armitage, a published scientist of over 30 years, was subsequently let go after CSUN abruptly claimed his appointment at the university of 38 months had been temporary, and claimed a lack of funding for his position. This was news to him, and contradicted prior statements and documents from the university.

Michael Peffer, staff attorney with PJI’s southern California office said, “It has become apparent that ‘diversity’ and ‘intellectual curiosity,’ so often touted as hallmarks of a university education, do not apply to those with a religious point of view. This suit was filed, in part, to vindicate those ideals.”

PJI / Daily Paul via Steve Quayle

Scientists often claim that no evidence or data prove the stories in the bible ever actually happened. Now, a veteran researcher with over three decades of experience has confirmed that dinosaurs were likely alive during the age of humans. Yet, because it doesn’t follow the traditional narrative and threatens scores of other theories, the physical evidence is shunned, thrown aside, and dismissed as religious extremism.

Apparently, a scientist can no longer be a scientists if he subscribes to the stories shared in the bible or if he believes in God.

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    1. Ze Bug

      Absolutely crazy! This is fucking awesome, IMHO.

      • admin

        Agreed — this is an amazing discovery. If it were verified by an independent team that would add even more validity to it.

        Slowly but surely, if allowed to do so, scientists who are truly open minded and inquisitive will show proof that the history we’ve been taught since grade school is merely conjecture.

        Michael Snyder recently wrote a piece about DNA research into skulls found in Peru… It may sound crazy, but facts are facts, and these skulls they found do not have human DNA —

        There are many mysteries out there that could be solved if only they’d let people do the research.

        But change is a hard thing for people to handle… especially scientists who have staked their entire life’s work on theories that could be shown to be flawed or completely wrong.

        Climate change…
        Big Bang theory…

        All of these are supposedly correct with overwhelming data to support their validity and anyone who disagrees is shunned by the scientific community and labeled a nut.

        It’s research discoveries like this soft tissue that could throw a wrench into decades’ worth of research…

        At least with information being made available on the internet we know that not everyone doing the research is a scientific myrmidon.

        • Indy Colts

          @ Mac

          A simple THANK YOU for sharing this story.

          PS: No one can prove carbon dating and most scientists compose theories which are just that THEORY!

          Anyone who thinks a bone can survive 60 million years is the craziest people I’ve ever seen. The burden of proof lies on their teaching cause I we know who created man…. and it wasn’t evolution of a monkey!!!

          • Rodster

            I guess the scientist got fired as he was on to prove that Michelle Obama, is in fact a Wookie. 🙂

            • WhoWuddaThunkIt

              Or go checkout the Video if Buckwheat’s wifey Mooshell is really a man? Hot debate at the moment. Her index finger is longer than her pointing finger. Just like a man.

              • wrong

                Her dick is longer than buckwheats too.

                I always thought that carbon dating was a crock.

                • BJ

                  Of course they did, the bible says as much. God created the plant eating ones and the nephilim created the nasty meat eaters

                • Chainsaw

                  This article is absolute garbage. I don’t even know where to begin. Thousands of cases of accurate dating should be thrown away because of one incomplete finding? I’m all for new findings but if you believe this then you are better at fooling yourself than I am.

              • OutWest

                Wookie’s index finger is only longer because
                of where it has been. Well fertilized

                • Lisa

                  Carbon dating has been proven wrong again and again.

                  There have also been discovered human footprints alongside dinosaurs, showing they lived in the same time period.

                  Science proves the Bible right all the time. Some people just don’t want to see it.

                • guero

                  As new findings emerge, old conclusions are overturned or become obsolete at a predictable rate. As each year goes by, a slightly greater number of the remaining facts are shown to be false or obsolete. After 50 years, only 25% of scientific articles from 50 years prior are still considered factual.
                  Similar patterns in the decay of facts are in all major scientific disciplines. The implication is clear: much of what scientists say, will be replaced in the future.

                  We all need to be careful when accepting scientific conclusions as facts. Most facts should not be extrapolated very far. Not all facts are equal. Some are large and important, controlling the way we see the world. These facts require a lot of data, and often more, to dislodge them. When they do give way, they reveal a vast horizon of new possibilities. These are the scientific breakthroughs. A flow of rapid discoveries is the usual result.

                • wrong


                  People don’t want to believe it cause it scares them.

                • PWYPreach

                  Here is the crux of the whole denial that dinosaurs roamed with earlier-era humans:

                  IF THEY DID COEXIST TOGETHER, then validity is given to the Bible, which gives validity to the fact the Christ is the Son of God, so therefore God exists and there WILL BE CONSEQUENCES for humans’ breaking God’s rules during their lifetimes….which has them quaking. Denial of God’s existence is the ONLY thing the allows them to continue in their evil pursuits without a second thought.

                • Scout

                  I wonder if their “bones” will last for 60 million years.

                  Just had to say it. 😉

                • Cara

                  Wrong: “People don’t want to believe it because it scares them.”
                  I thing people don’t want to believe it because then they have no excuse for behaviors that the bible and society had previously said were not to be tolerated. If science can prove the bibles authenticity, then they have to stand in open and very clear defiance of God. And will most people follow them then? Or will many step back away from our “anything goes” liberal society mindset?
                  There have always been gaps in the scientific evidence they use to prove their theories. That makes them only theories rather than fact as they portray them. The emperor has not clothes. But they insist that he does and if you don’t agree then you are the only one who does not see it so there must be something wrong with you. So most stay quiet and do not say that the emperor is naked.

            • WhyDieLost

              Rodster, why insult the Wookies?

          • Anonymous

            Off the subject, but Anonymous attacking Israel!! 🙂 I am so glad… IMO, the US govt and Israel are about one and the same… they both are Maffia ELites. and I guess you know they are declaring war on Palaestenians, as US declares war on Russia… maybe the Light is finally coming our way! 🙂

            At RT news.

            • Anonymous

              What’s funny is the banker tribe that destroyd the dollar will also be the end of Israel. When The Soviet Union collapsed they too abandoned Cuba and was left them in a pile of rubble to fend for themselves. So too will the US abandon Israel, a slice of sand glass obsolete and useless.

            • Feisty Old Broad

              @ano…What you “wish” for may well come back to haunt “you”….sadly, many of US will suffer for your misguided opinions….

              • Joe Glennon

                Only if the criminals in Israel resort to their “Sampson Option”.

          • the obvious

            Any physicist can prove carbon dating. Just because you haven’t spent 5 years studying physics doesn’t mean it is junk. it just means that you don’t understand it.
            Bones DO NOT survive millions of years – fossils are not bones. This is the Internet – look it up already 🙂

            • no justice

              People in the “know” thought the world flat at one time.

              • nosuchuser

                An Egyptian man not only proved the Earth was round, but also calculated a very good approximation of its diameter, using nothing but two sticks and geometry several thousand years ago.

                • Miss DeeDee

                  I am not as concerned about the honorable scientist Mark Armitage loosing his job and research grant as I am about the rumors that network television is conteplating canceling all the reruns of ” The Flintstones ”
                  — Miss Dee Dee

                • Tim

                  A Greek man, actually.
                  He also showed that the sun is only 5 million miles away from earth, not the 93 million miles currebntly touted.

                • rrrr

                  He was a Greek actually.

            • javelin

              Actually your name is quite inappropriate since nothing of what you stated is accurate.

              First, carbon dating is a combination of chemistry and high level mathematics. I performed these function of equations when going through school for my applied science masters…it is a rather simple issue…you plot the x/y axis and X cannot be equal to or less than zero and Y cannot be infinite…then you solve for varying “points” which represent age and the orbital decay of the radioactive isotopes in the carbon…after several points are plotted in the I quadrant you can then delineate a logarhythmic arc to show the age/decay of the carbon ( it’s actually easier than it sounds)

              BUT___ there are 2 humongous presumptions ALWAYS by scientists when they do this. The age or “years ago” of the y axis is always presumed–yes presumed. They simply start with the presumption that the first plotted point or event in the logarhythm is an age of ( fill in the blank) 60 million years ago…then they proceed from there to the present age..usually catastrophic events and climactic events are not factored at all.

              The second huge mistake is that they have some active isotopes of the carbon to some level…carbon would be completely decayed or at best inert after just thousands of years let alone tens of millions.

              There were many others of us in college who understood that what they taught with their backhanded evolutionary theory was ridiculous and put simply–not scientifically plausible or even possible–however if one wanted to just graduate and get one’s medical license, you just did the homework, math problems and filled in the answers they wanted.
              Acadaemia has been bullying the true study and practice of science for 100 years.

              • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                The Bible is an excuse book for Dummies that can’t comprehend science, history, anthropology, archeology, physics, carbon dating, astrology, math, physiology , chemistry or just plain common sense.

                • sixpack

                  I don’t believe that. I believe Evolution and the Bible actually accentuate each other.

                  Religious people believe that God created every living thing on the planet, including the planet. I agree. I just don’t agree that Man and the rest of God’s creatures all just “appeared” in the form we recognize them in.

                  My belief is that God created the beginnings of life, and from there, we have evolved into what we are today. All part of God’s plan.

                  I believe EVOLUTION is also part of God’s plan.

                  So now what?

                • The Moon is a Harsh Mistress

                  I believe that Mac Slavo is a brilliant businessman. For those of you who do not know what just took place, here is the explanation.

                  This site, while containing interesting information and catering to those with a survivalist and prepping lifestyle, exists primarily as a business, and as such must generate revenue to stay in business. Revenue is generated through advertising, and advertisers pay based upon how much traffic this site generates. Hence the trackers that track how many times the site has been accessed and trackers that track numbers of hits on stories within the site. What Mac has done with this story is extremely brilliant; it is controversial with strong opinions on both sides, and guaranteed to generate lots of views and large numbers of comments which generate even more views. The timing is excellent too; going into a weekend guarantees it will be in the forefront of views for the next several days. I would not be surprised if the controversial nature of this story, which really has very little to do with prepping, generates 1000+ comments by Monday.

                  My hats off to you, Mac!

                • Ugly

                  Well then you should believe–dummy….

                • eppe

                  Moon, then Mac should be rich from me alone…

                • WhoWuddaThunkIt

                  To Bible Thumpers: This is how phony religion is. You may be so brain washed that Christianity is the best most believable religion out there, because this happens to be the central religion here in America. Now consider this. If you were born in the Middle East say Iraq, You would be a huge believer in the Muslim faith and the Koran, and think Christianity is false and BS. And if you were born in China or say in Viet Nam you would be a Huge Believer in Budda. If you were born in Israel You would be a Huge believer in Judaism. When in Fact is is all False, all a big hoax, all duping you stupid sheep. You are a dumbed down product of your ignorant environment you were raised in. That is what religions brain washing does. Its powerful, it is reinforced by family and church. It is all a Big Hoax. This is just more proof, how extreme brain washing makes stupid people fly airplanes into tall building for 70 Virgins, or makes stupid people do dumb things like give money to a church, to promise you ever lasting life if you believe. What a bunch of suckers. And do this, while the church asks you to donate your wealth to the church upon your death. Wait, You were promised everlasting life, so maybe you may need you wealth in your ever lasting life. Show me someone show is 200 yrs old, how about 400 yrs old. how about 1000 yrs old? Show me. Wake up stupid sheep!!! You are being fleeced!!

                • Guns N Rosaries

                  Atheists, agnostics and pagans hate the truth so much, that they will lie and lie again in order to promote their agenda to try to push God, Jesus true religion, and the Bible off the face of the planet.

                  They will not now, nor will they ever succeed.

              • Snapdragon

                An advertisement popped up to the side of this comment and extended towards the middle making it impossible for me to read. This is the second time it has happened. Once in a former posting. Very annoying. How do you get rid of it?

                • admin

                  This is an issue on our end Snapdragon and we should have it resolved shortly.

                  Thanks for the feedback.


                • Anonymous

                  If you don’t know there is a God, or believe there is a God, or at least have an open mind and realize that you don’t know everything, then you are ego-saturated.

                  I have never seen an ET; does that mean ETs do not exist because I have never witnessed them? No, it simply means I have never seen one.

                  Just because you have never had a spiritual experience, never had a flash of intuition of your own immortality, it does not mean that God or your immortality do not exist. It simply means you have never had a spiritual experience.

                  Stop being so close minded! It is the height of egotism (false identity) to believe that just because you have never seen or experienced something it doesn’t exist!

                  Some people have never seen an apple. Does that mean apples don’t exist?! Ignorance is the only sin. It takes you away from God (the Source from which you came), and apparently (you!) have forgotten!

                • Anonymous

                  Snapdragon– buy a macbook or comparable system… I do not and have never had pop-ups with mine. If you want a good product, don’t get cheap microsoft crap.

            • Egg

              As I understand it carbon dating works off the assumption that levels of carbon have been constant. We are seeing a rise in carbon in the atmospher. Thus there is reason to be sceptic all. Taking into account helium off gassing of zircons (amount per time) there is a very scientifically valid reason to be extremely sceptical. Sorry bout spelling…;)

              • nosuchuser

                CO2, which is increasing in concentration is not 14^C. Its the ratio of 14^c (Carbon-14) to 12^c (Carbon-12) found in an organic sample which is used to determine the approximate age of the sample. This method works because the half-life of 14^c is well known and thus decays into 12^c at a very predicable rate.

                Please note that radiocarbon dating is one of (at least) 21 methods in use to determine an approximate date for a specific specimen. The specific method(s) used are determined by the type of sample and where it was found.

                • Night Breaker

                  If soft tissue exists wouldn’t it be possible to extract DNA?
                  Many things exist in this world that seem like contradictions , in 1938 a man in south Africa brought aboard his boat a misterious fish that no had ever seen before . It turned out to be a Coelacanth thought to have gone extinct in the late cretaceous period.

                  Many things are mysterious like the missing mass of the universe , so called dark matter that leaves holes in Einstein’s theories , in traditional physics the two competing theories , quantum mechanics and Einsteinian physics do not mesh easily to a singular theory . Some day both theories may go the way of Aristolian Cosmology and be replaced with something different.
                  We Even have an individual on this site a Retired USGS scientist that predicts earthquakes by using empirical data and matching the patterns. We had a retired NASA physicist that studied the relationship of solar dynamics to Geophysical activity ( cutting edge electromegnetohydodynamics ) . Both these individuals challenge the current academicians assumptions but prove that patterns curiously exist .The world is a mysterious and unique place all this only confirms we are here not by accident or chance .

                  By Gods grace we have been given minds to study and understand the miracle of life and our place in the universe , we are the only sentient beings that we are aware of , that frightens me more than any of the difficulties we all may face , because some day our blame of others and distructiveness will erase the very gift that is entrusted to us , LIFE.

                  Open moral minds are the gateway to enlightenment , there is more to this existence then we can see .We as a group with our finite minds are incapable of grasping the infinite but that should not stop us from contemplation of the wonder of it all.

                  Look at the night sky some clear night in a dark area away from lights ,billions and billions of stars and possibly worlds above your head , wonder, the possibilities, there could only be one creator of this .

                  All these stories like the one Mack has published remind one of the book Jurassic Park by Michael Crichton , Dr Ian Malcom “Life breaks free , life expands to new territories, painfully, perhaps even dangerously , but life finds a way”

                  A paradigm shift is coming of biblical proportions , Everthing looks different on the other side.


                  Semper Fi 8541

              • Daddyotis

                The isotope of carbon which is tracked in carbon dating is Carbon-14. Carbon-14 comprises ~0.01% of a naturally-occurring sample of carbon (1 in 10,000 – 100,000 atoms in the sample). Further, Carbon-14 is the only radioactive isotope. Carbon-14 is constantly being depleted in any non-organic (ie: living) sample as measured by its ~5,700 year half life. This decrease in Carbon-14 amount is what is tracked in carbon dating. Organic carbon (ie: living things) are constantly infused with Carbon-14 in our diets, as it is consistently being produced in the upper atmosphere from neutron bombardment of nitrogen-14 atoms. This newly formed (and unstable) carbon isotope is eventually incorporated into a CO2 molecule, which is then taken up by plants via photosynthesis, becoming the plant structure. These plants are then eaten by animals and the Carbon-14 is then incorporated into them (ie: us). As long as we continue to eat, we maintain a contact level of Carbon-14 in our system. However, once we stop eating (ie: die), the Carbon-14 levels in our remains fall off according to the 5,700 year 1/2 life. Again, this amount is what is measured.

              • Wolfbay

                Carbon14 isn’t used to date dinosaurs because the half life is to short. Isotopes of other elements are used.

          • stopplayin

            Or god either!

          • Sideshow

            What most fail to realize.. the isotope ( sp ) that they measure in carbon dating has a 12000yr halflife.. so by their own “rules” anything older then 24000yrs COULDNT be carbon dated.

            • Sideshow

              sorry 6000yr halflife.. 12000 is total age…

              The half-life of 14C (the time it takes for half of a given amount of 14C to decay) is about 5,730 years

              So how can they measure things 1000000yrs old if after 12000yrs there is NO isotope left to measure…

              thats why Science is called a practice like medicine.. the only two professions that try to disprove God

              • sixpack

                I don’t think “science” tries to disprove God, as much as the scientists who bend it to fit their views.

                • wrong

                  good point!!!

              • SlowCreek

                Half-life indicates the time for half of the isotope, in this case Carbon-14, to have decayed. After twice this time, there is 1/4 left of the original amount; after three half-life times, there is 1/8 left, and so on. Eventually, enough of the isotope will have decayed enough for it to be practically absent.

                Now there may be suspicions that these the half-life times aren’t constant, so for long-term isotopes like Carbon-14 the approximate 6000 years might speed up to 5000 or slow down to 7000 years as the millenia pass.

                • Sideshow

                  that is a flase measurement, half life means it is HALF way through its life, not 1/8 then 6000yrs later 1/4 thats science again trying to make stuff up to explain themselves out of a hole they dug.. a c14 isotooe is undetectable after 12000 years give or take not 6000yrs 1/2 6000 yrs 1/4 etc.

                • Nopittypartyhere

                  Sideshow you are unfortunately WRONG. A half-life by definition is the amount of time it takes for 1/2 of an amount of substance to decay/disappear/be metabolized. So if you had 10 grams of C14, in 6000 years only 5 grams would be left. Of that 5 grams is takes another 6000 years for 1/2 to disappear, etc.

                  This is well documented in science and medicine. It is how physicians determine when a medication is out of a patients system, and this time can be influenced by liver and kidney function. For example, propofol has a half life of minutes, while pentathol has a half life of approximately 11 hours. Hence, the discovery of propofol revolutionized anesthesia recovery times leading to same day surgeries, and a deep sedation that allows procedures that previously required general anesthesia to be done on a spontaneously breathing patient. It takes 5 elimination half times to consider a medication ‘eliminated’ from the body. The difference of C14 is that carbon is present in organic matter. For the organic matter to exist, carbon must be present, no? I don’t know more about C14 isotope itself and its relationship to C12, but assuming you are dealing with actual bones, teeth, etc. there should be some amount left.

                  While I’m sure no one knows the EXACT half life of C14 to the year, the principle of half lives and half-time are sound scientific calculations.

              • wiktionarydotorg

                Are you serious or just trolling? I assume you’re trolling.

                If you’re serious, and really don’t understand a concept like half-life, you really must learn more before joining a conversation like this. Skeptic-types use the very presence of comments like these to discredit anything that goes against the current mainstream.

              • Anonymous

                I don’t think they use Carbon dating for dinosaurs. They use other isotopes with longer half lives.

            • Daddyotis

              It’s 5,700 years, Sideshow, not 12,000 years. Additionally, you are incorrect about the potential for dating past 2 x its half life. Half life is the amount of time required for there to be 1/2 of the sample left. Thus, after 5700 years, there would be 1/2 of the carbon-14 left. After another 5700 years, there would be 1/2 of that 1/2 left (ie: 1/4). And so it goes: every 5700 years, 1/2 of that amount remains (1/8, 1/16, 1/32, 1/64, etc). Thus, there is always a certain amount left. However, carbon dating only works out to ~40,000 years (when the amount of remaining C-14 gets too low to measure accurately).

          • Mountain Trekker

            Just wondering. If modern day Elephants, Rino’s, Hippo’s and Giraffe had gone extinct 6,000years ago and their skeletons were foud by scientist, would they be thought to have been dinosaurs? Mastodon’s are not considered dinosaurs only because they have modern day elephants to compare them to. Trekker Out. Magna est veritas et praevalet!

          • Anonymous

            First off fossils are NOT bone, they are stone formed when minerals leeched into the organic remains and forms a copy of the structure and then hardens over time. As for the claim that soft tissue was discovered with a fossil remains makes no sense, if the horn is a fossil and not a misidentified horn of something more recent, the it would have to have been buried for a very long time for fossilization to have occurred (10’s of thousands of years) and that process would have allowed the soft tissue to decay. The best solution is to have an independent group of scientists examine and if possible verify the sample, then a DNA test should be preformed to see if that tissue matches any know species. It is possible for a ancient human could have discovered this fossil years ago and used it as a hunting tool which could also explain the soft tissue, don’t make logical jumps about the source of the tissue.

          • SatansHog

            Pssst … carbon dating doesn’t apply to 60 million year old artifacts. Maybe you should at least try to know something about the evidence you’re rejecting.

        • Off Grid Survival

          Good stuff… Kent Hovind has a number of great videos on this topic with example after example of this kind of stuff. Unfortunately, he’s now in Prison because the Feds decided to go after him and his ministry, but his videos and research can still be found online.

          Amazing how much of this has been covered up by the colleges, the Smithsonian and the Feds.

        • Guns N Rosaries


          An excellent video that explains even more than what the story you posted explains is called “Creation and Miracles” by Bro. Michael Dimond. It’s on youtube, and it does provide a healthy dose of religion, too, but just the information on the age of the earth, evolution, the hydro-plate theory, etc. is most educational.

        • watching and waiting

          Also in Texas and in other places in the USA, on cave walls, man and dinosaur walked on the earth at the same tim. Google Dr. Carl Baugh at in Glen Rose Texas.

          When I used to watch Kenneth Copeland, he did several programs on there and from the Bible proved that Dinosaurs and humans walked the earth together and provided evidence of dinosaur prints and a mans print in rock here in the usa. He use to have his own program on INSP. It was along time ago.

          I will say this, I am convinced that our history is not what we think it is…….or as we have been taught.

          Off-post comment, but there was an article on the internet, maybe steve quayle, that CNN gets paid by the government to hold certain stories and not tell them.

        • omegaman

          Sorry guys, god does not exist. Stop hoping a man in the sky can save you.

          • sixpack

            God never said he’d “save us.”

            What he really said, is that he’s saving a place in His home for the faithful. Getting there is OUR choice.

          • Guns N Rosaries

            Well, you’ll be the one of the first to take the mark of the beast and say, “thank you sir, may I have another!”

            • Pissed Off Granny

              Guns N Rosaries:

              Because your comment about the Bible has been blocked for replies I would like to add this:

              Why does anyone seek to tear down the Bible and Christ believing Christians?

              Why do people seek to tear it down, remove it from schools, discredit it, make altered translations of it, misquote and inaccurately interpet it? No other book in the annals of time has ever been so laboriously attacked as they have attacked the Bible. Why?

              Most people dont attack the Koran, or the Talmud, the Vedas, or the Egyptian Book of the Dead–no where to any degree that they attack the Bible. Why?

              If the Bible is just a novel full of advice on how to live a decent moral life, written by some old sheepherders, fisherman, and various other eccentric religious quacks, impersonators, and self appointed Prophets and Apostles, then why do people so vehemently seek to discredit it?


              The Bible is REAL alright, very real, if it wasn’t people wouldn’t hate it so, Satan wouldn’t hate it so, nor would people feel so threatened by its words.

              Jesus Christ speaks….

              Revelations 3: 20-21

              20- Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice and open the door, I will come to him, and sup with him, and he with me.

              21- To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

              • sixpack

                I had to do a green thumb for that granny. You seem to have seen through the same exactly-backwards rhetoric they use for everything else. Up is down, left is right, and we hate it so much, because it doesn’t matter…

                • Bastet

                  Sorry, I’d have to disagree. Some of us are just stumped that rational beings could believe in an old fairytale (one among many). I certainly don’t “hate” the bible, anymore than I hate the Egyption Book of the Dead or Alice in Wonderland. By all means, believe it if it makes you happy, but don’t put people down if they don’t believe it. I do like the bit about “do unto others”. It’s a shame many christians don’t seem to follow that bit. There’s another one I like too, from the Wiccan Creed “an’ it harm none, do as ye will”.

        • Nobama

          Why should this surprise anyone?!? We walk amongst dinosaurs TODAY. Look at Pelosi, Mitch McConnell, many of our Senators are all friggen dinosaurs!

          • sixpack

            Does that mean we can freeze-dry them and thin-slice them to figure out how old they are? 🙂

          • nosuchuser

            Or more accurately: Sharks, Birds, Alligators and many other species are the modern descendants of the survivors of the great extinction that wiped out the dinosaurs.

          • The Moon is a Harsh Mistress

            Yet the ones sitting on the bench of the Supreme Court have passed beyond the dinosaur stage and are now living fossils… Maybe the researcher was onto something but he came to the wrong conclusions. The correct conclusion should have been that Man and Ruth Bader-Ginsberg walked the Earth at the same time, millions of years after the latter should have been extinct.

        • m. Kennedy

          The more things change, the more they stay the same. New Scientific theories and discoveries have always been shunned… first.

        • durango kidd

          Mac: You forgot the “political scientists” who believe that Hope & Change are “progressive” theories that hold the blessings of liberty in their wake while the PTB ratchet down the freedoms of the American People one Rule, Regulation, & Executive Order at a time, while 60,000 factories are off shored, and 70 million jobs are lost.

          Then of course there are their theories about “Gun Control” while murders multiply like maggots in Chicago and NYC where guns are regulated and outlawed.

          Engage your employees or be enslaved by them. 🙁

          • nosuchuser

            The violent crime rate in Chicago today is the lowest since the mid-seventies.

            • Hugh Janus

              That means Shitago is now a great place to live.

        • the renegade braveheart

          Mac, just got home a few minutes ago and read this article. Kudos for bringing one of the best articles I’ve ever seen here. the people who promote political correctness can go make love to themselves. I always knew what were taught in public school was garbage.

        • doug

          If you go to Canyon lake in Tx , around where the bend where you go tubing, turn right down the rd ,sorry not sure of the rds name,there was a place that was named Dinosaur world I believe. It was closed due to lack of business.It was around 1989 they were open.
          What I saw there was a small bolder & in that bolder was a foot print of a plant eating dinosaur,maybe a baby with 3 toes.The foot print was about the size of a mans waist but next to it in the SAME bolder was a mans foot print just a little off center & a little behind to the right of the dinosaurs foot print. They were very proud of it. I ask why I have never even heard of this before? The answer…We have called the news people,scientist, every 1 we can think of but no 1 has ever called us back or even came by to see it so we just quit. I bet it is still there today. Would be great to see it again.

          • passinwiththewind

            Did flesh man co-exist with dinos?

            Does crude oil come from the decomposition of the dinos millions of years ago?

            First of all, i don’t believe any dinos made it past the last Ice Age period (a time when the entire earth land mass is frozen), which was approximately 2.5 million years ago.

            There have been “glacial periods” since then, whereby a “portion” of the earth’s landmass has been frozen and covered. The last major one was approximately 10,000 years ago, which lines up with biblical teachings of flesh man creation and this 2nd Heaven and Earth Age, whereby “flesh” man was created from the earth/dust (organic), approximately 7500 to 8000 years ago.

            Speaking of this Age, there was a prehistoric “type” creature that walked and flew on the Earth about 6000+ years ago in the lands we call the middle east, in the garden of Eden. Shortly after the creation of Adam and Eve, about 6000 to 7000 years ago. We are told about a creature in those days that was a serpent/dragon with shiney snake-like skin.

            Some say God was speaking figuratively about this creature and His “removing of it’s wings (and consequently it’s legs) so that it was left to crawl in the dust of the Earth. I leave room for the possibility, that the creature and event to be a literal explanation by God.

            Satan, a spirit bodied entity, walked the earth with man, and more specifically, with Adam and Eve. He transformed/morphed himself into “the shining one”, the dragon; a serpent that flew around and evidently had legs and feet. He talked Eve into disobeying God’s direct orders and “beguiled” (wholly seduced= consumated that seduction with a sexual act), her and therefore brought about the “troubles with the flesh” we have today, and the Kenite/sons of Cain/races. More importantly, Satan tried to pollute the bloodline/DNA thru which Christ would be born out of; The caucasian/light skinned/adamic( ruddy complected/to show blood in the face) peoples. Later to be known as the Israelites and consequently the caucasians because of crossing over the Cacus Mtns. to settle western Europe, and later North America. ding,ding,ding…light bulbs over heads turning on?

            Time will tell just how close to the truth these ideas and interpretations are, but this is how i see it.

            Now, secondly: Dinosaurs death and decomposition supposedly brought about the crude oil. It has been proven that much of that was a myth created by Sinclair Oil Co. (remember the sign with the picture of the Brontosaurus).

            You may be surprised to learn that–according to the best theories currently available– microscopic bacteria, and not house-sized dinosaurs, produced today’s oil reserves. Single-celled bacteria evolved in the earth’s oceans about three billion years ago, and were pretty much the only life form on the planet until about 600 million years ago. As tiny as the individual bacteria were, bacterial colonies, or “mats,” grew to truly massive proportions (we’re talking thousands, or even millions, of tons for an extended bacterial colony, compared to 100 tons or so for the biggest dinosaurs, the sauropods.

            No flesh man was walking the earth 600 million years ago, or at least there have been no scientific or archeological evidence that there were.

          • Truth avenger

            It is still here. I live less than 2 miles from the site which is located on FM 2673, that runs between Sattler and Startzville, TX.

            They have expanded and greatly upgraded “the place” within the past 5 years.

        • sixpack

          It sounds to me like someone wants this hushed up, and the second best way to make it go away is to claim “religious fanaticism.” The first method, of course, would be to claim “conspiracy theory.” Since they have hard, indisputable evidence, they had to go with religious fanaticism.

        • tayronachan

          ooparts, or Out Of Place Artifacts. Some of the stranger ones, a small iron pot found in a lump of coal. How old is coal? A small piece of metal gearing found in another lump of coal. Fossilized human foot prints alongside dinosaur foot prints. Things like that just tickle the mind, I love it.

        • Winston Smith

          Be careful where you go with the nephalim. You can open up a doctrinal can of worms that disproves the immaculate conception and also takes away epistemic warrant for the resurrection. How? Simple: If the Nephalim were indeed angels come to Earth in a physical incarnation, then they have the ability to create Ex Nihilo (out of nothing), an ability Scripture only gives to God Himself. As these spirit beings would need to be able to create semen to inseminate human women, this gives them the power to create life. As Satan is an angel (albeit fallen) it also gives him these same powers and thus puts him on equal footing with God. If this is the case, then who was Jesus? See what I mean about it being a dangerous road to go down? This is why I do not see them as angels because to do so tears apart so many other crucial things in the Bible.

          • passinwiththewind

            @ Winston Smith,

            You are missing something very important here Winston.
            Angels can’t “create” anything. Humans can’t “create” anything. They can take what has already been created and use that in combinations and processes to “deveop” and “discover” new things. It’s called “inventing”, which is way different than creating.

            The children of God, all of his creation, in spirit/angelic form had DNA from the start. Everyone is unique and somehow different because of DNA; even identical twins have something different.

            There was no wombs in the first Heaven and Earth Age, therefore no need for live births. But, for whatever reason, God wanted His children to have “readily available DNA, in the form of “sperma”. That is why we are not told of any angelic beings having female parts and all were called “sons of God”. As there are now, in the 2nd Age/the flesh age, female was created with a womb for birthing. Adam, gave life to Eve, by the hand of God, from his feminine genes that God removed from his body via the “curve” of his body, his “helix curve”.

            The english translators for the KJV, didn’t know anything about the helix curve so they used “curved rib” as an explanation. Just like man’s explanation for the sin in the Garden of Eden, “Eve ate a forbidden apple”.
            EeeeccccchhhhXXXXXX….wrong! No apple mentioned in Eve’s sinning and disobedience to God, in the Bible. Read it an weep, disbelievers.

            So the angels, including Lucifer/Satan had DNA in the form of “sperma”, in their body/genitalia from the start.
            How do you think the giants/geber were born from flesh woman and Satan’s fallen amgels (Nephillim)? I don’t know why God formed them/us with geitalia in our angelic form/body, but He did for His resaons and purpose.

            Most folks have an illusional picture of Angels because of two things. A wrong translation of Holy Spirit to Holy Ghost, by the KJV translators.
            I call it “Casper the friendly Ghost” syndrome. They believe angelic beings have wings and are all smoke and mist. Wrong again.

            They, angelic beings have mass and a body just like ours, except it is not organic and doesn’t age. The size and look of a fully mature adult about the age of 30.

            Also, it requires manna/angels food to sustain it. What sustained the flesh bodies of the Israelites for forty years in the wilderness? Mostly manna. Until they complained and God provided quail for them.

            Angels food will sustain a fleah body as well as a spirit/angelic body.

            Hope this helps.


            • Winston Smith

              Yes, but you are assuming that flesh in one plane of existence is equal to another and that DNA between one species of created being can co-mingle with that of another successfully (something that does not happen across similar species lines with humans and simians due to a different DNA structure.). The point being though that if angels or demons (being created the same as both are angels in an ontological sense with one making one choice and one another) can inseminate a human female then how can you conclusively say that Mary was made pregnant by God and not another being from that plane of existence? Also, you have to remember that angels are different from humans in that, while both have a choice, only humans can be redeemed through Christ’s shed blood on the Cross. Therefore we can assume that the two are very different types of beings. As far as manna goes, I tend to think it was an instantaneous act of creation by God and not something meant to originally only exist in Heaven.

              I also tend to wonder about the translation of “Sons of God” for the nephtalim. Usually the term “Son of God” refers to Jesus. Using it the plural could tend to indicate that there are others ontologically identical to Jesus, a leap I don’t want to take. The only other reference to “sons of God” I can think of is the position believers are given at the point of salvation. This would indicate that there were others who shared the same position as believers. Plus, I tend to question the need of angels to have corporeal relations with anyone, let alone men and women.

              Please don’t misunderstand me. I in no way intend this as a criticism of the Christian faith as it is a faith and a hope that I share. However, God has also given me an extremely analytical mind that lets me see most things as a complex matrix rather than a simpler way.

              • Sons of God

                If only you knew how close you came to the truth. God gave birth to Himself; The Theophany; the Word; the eternal God’s Thoughts who is a Spirit, expressed as the Word. The Word, which is the “Body” that is indwelt by the eternal Spirit; the Father is the Son. That Eternal Spirit can and did split itself into many parts housed in Theophanies; Sons of God. So yes, they are ontologically identical to Jesus Christ; who is the Captain of the Host of the Lord; the ArchAngel or ArchTheophany. Then The Word; the Theophany took flesh and was Virgin born. Why?

                Let us make man in our likeness and image; Create mankind in God’s image; body enclosing a spirit-man hence Gen 1:26-27 – the spirit man and Gen 2:7 the flesh-man. Man being an image of God created on the 6th day whereas, the “Sons of God” were before creation (Job 38:1-8). God is fully manifested as Spirit, Theophany and Flesh. Where will the other Sons of God get their flesh body from? Bingo. From all the man that was created in God’s image. Hence after salvation, you now became a “son of God” because a portion of one of the Theophany’s Spirit is given to you in a spiritual union. Other mysteries as to why it had to be the way it is are to complex to fit in here.

                My first and probably last post. Regards.

              • passinwiththewind

                “Please don’t misunderstand me. I in no way intend this as a criticism of the Christian faith as it is a faith and a hope that I share. However, God has also given me an extremely analytical mind that lets me see most things as a complex matrix rather than a simpler way.” (Winston)

                Please be assured, W.S., I am in no way offended or “misunderstood”, about anything or anyone. You have your ideaology and your “analytical” mind that keeps you popping.

                I have God’s Word and common sense approach. He has told us, by His Word, that; “He is not the author of confusion”.

                In my book, the “complex matrix” way of looking and analyizing of everything that is “faith” based, is nothing but confusion and a waste of time. Before you get something settled in your mind and accepting it as a strong possibility of truth, you are turning it upside down and making a new analyzation of it. Therefore; it is a neverending process whereby you become seen as argumentative, for the sake of wearing down/out another person without ever really making a valid point.

                No offense, but that is the liberals process of “trying” to make a point.

                • Indy Colts

                  @ Winston

                  satan was created by ALMIGHTY GOD thus they are not equal. GOD can destroy any of his creations when he see’s fit. He’s a gracious GOD giving everyone an opportunity to change. Wrath is left as a final option so my being can say they weren’t given a chance to change.

        • jerrytbg

          “…history we’ve been taught since grade school is merely conjecture”

          I’ll take that one step further…it’s ALL been a lie!
          And they’ve been doing it for quite some time…
          All to fit a narrative that we are only now beginning to see, after centuries of manipulation.

          Remember that the “church” controlled most every aspect of daily life, much like islamo fascism does now for those poor souls, even scientific inquiry…

          Our written history, what they let us know about, is a purposeful and convoluted misinterpretation of reality.

          That reality is a physical cycle that keeps repeating on a fairly well defined timetable. One that probably has no more than a 1 or 2% variation…and they know it.

          That cycle is our solar system oscillating through the ecliptic of the galaxy… too bad Cornell University took down their animation of this… which by the way was stunning. For one, it looked like pure sine wave on an oscilloscope… AC electric… Tesla comes to mind…what did that man fully understand…that we do live in an electric universe and all of what THAT implies? I believe so.

          The point is they have lied for CENTURIES about EVERYTHING!
          And it really went into high gear when Gutenberg came along.
          Can’t have the peasants thinking for themselves, God forbid they learn how to read… this disinformation campaign has been around for a long time.

          • eppe

            Jerry, Tesla was far ahead in using the earth magnetism for free electricity, which would put many out of business, oil, AC, LNG,etc…. Agree with you, he was brilliant, and have changed our world, but TPTB would not let it happen… Been researching hois patents, cool stuff….

            • jerrytbg

              Hey Eppe,

              First off…love your jokes…look for them frequently…

              I believe the knowledge we’re being denied goes way beyond Tesla…

              No one has ever successfully explained how a Woolley Mammoth, a temperate climate animal, was found frozen in the Siberian tundra…with temperate climate flora in its mouth that had seeds that germinated…the meat was still edible and fed to the dogs…the animal was flash frozen and stayed that way for over 10,000 years!

              Temperate climate, would be like Colorado or Wyoming latitude in springtime…well below the artic circle with well defined seasons…How did that happen…

              The cycle I referred to above by many accounts is 26,000 years…plus or minus 1 or 2%…

              13,000 years above the ecliptic and 13,000 years below…
              In a relatively smooth arc, much like pure sine wave…
              That was the Cornell animation…and that’s now gone…
              Too many discerning minds saw it…I just stumbled upon it.

              The greater mass of our galaxy and our solar system are on their respective ecliptics…as our solar system traverses we will be passing thru all kinds of debris…
              Have you noticed that most of the sun diving comets seem to be coming from the south?

              That begs the question…Why does the Vatican operate, I believe more than one, big telescopes looking south?
              What are they looking for…Wormwood? No, they’re just part of the sky watch… just looking for the debris field…looking for what they know are going to be some very big rocks!

              And finally, something to ponder, our star flips it’s polarity on a regular and relatively short cycle…
              I propose our planet does the same every 13,000 years…and with it a crustal shift of 20 to 40 degrees.

              That would explain so much… Do you think they’d tell us?

          • Anonymous

            “Science without religion is — and religion without science is lame”… how does that go? (by Einstein).

            • Anonymous

              Basically, what Einstein was trying to say was that religion that is not scientific is bs and science without religion is worthless. We need both science and God (spiritual path)… but not bologna.

        • Hoagy

          Soft tissue has been found for quite a few years now. Here’s more info on what one of the original scientists who found soft tissue did to discover how it might be possible. It doesn’t say how much DNA, if any, was found – bring on Jurassic Park [or Cretaceous Park to be more accurate!]

        • Viper


          1: In the beginning God created the heavens and the Earth.

          2: And the earth was “was” should actually be “became” if you correctly translate it from “hayah” without form and void.

          Since God doesn’t create anything in vain, we can conclude that the earth was created perfectly, then layed to ruin “became without form and void” by Lucifer when he was cast out of heaven. In Genesis, God fixed and replenished the earth and made things right again, and created man. So the earth actually existed perfectly for a time prior to Genesis 1:2 along with whatever creatures that occupied it, until it was ruined. Dinasours could very well have existed along side Neanderthals. The gap between genesis 1:1 and 1:2 could very well be millions of years.

          • Tim

            We have been taught that a creative act requires millions of years to accomplish, because it requires the chance arrangements of proteins, etc. But the Creator of all things, the Great Being known as YHVH, does not require chance events to perform His acts of Creation.
            So although your comment about the verb “hayah” is correct, this does not mean that there had to be a lapse of millions of years at any point during the creative work.
            But I agree that, as Jeremiah ch 4 states, there was a period of chaos upon the earth and in the universe, before the creation of Adam, and the recreation of an earth which had been rendered without form and void by the angelic rebellion.

        • ScoutMotto

          Hm. Imagine a discovery that would give validity to the Bible. Imagine discovering that there is indeed accountability to a being greater than oneself.

        • Anonymous

          I don’t know of any scientists let go because his findings “prooved” something, but rather because his findings were inadequate and not up to par in peer reviewed literature. Some scientists are simply below standard.

          The fossil fuel industry is the most profitable industry ever to have existed and they often influence policy, spend millions to spread mis-information, pay off congressmen, etc. Still, regardless of how wealty this industry is, scientists have not stopped their work in the field of climate change. So scientists are not beholden to large corporations, powerful interest groups and super wealthy industries.

          Still, having said all that, they do not publish “garbage” in their peer reviewed papers. And who determines what is quality work? Well, of course, the thousands of top scientists.

        • schlomo

          I remember being a student in elementary school in the 1970s and seeing a textbook illustration of South American tribes as they may have existed. It explained that the children had boards fastened to their heads over time to elongate their skulls as a sign of prestige. Some African tribes do things like this, such as elongate necks. Now more and more we are seeing very elongated skulls show up in different archeological digs. We were taught that the tribal parents went out of their way to elongate their childrens’ skulls as some sign of prestige, but did the Powers that Be know they are alien skeletons and wanted to implant the wrong idea of why the skulls are elongated. I don’t know.

          • Tim

            The skulls are not merely artificially elongated human skulls. These skulls have different arrangements of their constituent plates from the standard human configuration; their suture lines are in different places.
            It would seem that humans then attempted to raise their own status by mirroring these head shapes.

        • Tim

          This is not the first time soft tissue has been found associated with dinosaur bones. Dr Mary Schweizer found exactly the same thing in 2013.
          It is fascinating that most of these sites are characterized by large numbers of these creatures all jumbled together in heaps; exactly as would occur if they were thrown down by some mighty cataclysm such as a global Flood.
          The Legend of Beowulf from the fifth century speaks about Grendel, whose description tallies precisely with a juvenile T Rex, and which was killed by the eponymous hero; he killed it by getting in close and wrenching off one of its puny front legs.
          Bishop Bell is buried in Carlisle Cathedral in England; above his vault there is inscribed a creature which can only be described as a dinosaur.
          Identical creatures are carved into the statuary at Angkor Wat in Cambodia.
          Roman artwork depicts men fighting swamp creatures of massive dimensions; again, clearly dinosaurs.
          The written history of England is replete with accounts of dinosaurs; these accounts being framed in very factual terms.
          Dragons are recorded by every known civilization; a fire-breathing creature is recorded in Job ch 40; it is called leviathan.
          “Yea, let God be true, and every man a liar”.
          Incidentally, there is no objective evidence whatsoever that earth orbits the sun, and spins on an axis at 1000 mph. Were it to do so, the oceans would rise up under the retarding force of inertia to produce the mother of all tsunamis.
          “The world also is firmly stablished; it cannot be moved”.
          Furthermore, individuals such as Felix Baumgartner would not land 12 miles from their take-off points after ascending over the course of 3 hours to the edge of space in balloons.

        • Mike L

          According to my friend who is just finishing up his PhD in physics (unrelated but has access to university papers) the soft tissue looks like it’s contamination. It’s at two other labs for testing. We are believing him that he was let go for his religious beliefs. The other side has said nothing, because legally they cannot and he knows that. So he can say nearly anything. If it were for religious beliefs he can sue. So I doubt it. Open minds work great!

        • Frank

          I have read of another discovery in which soft tissues were supposedly found within a dinosaur’s skull. I’m pretty skeptical about all of this. Why? Because after all of these decades no such thing has ever been discovered much less backed with any real credible science. For creationist. Does this mean that Ice Ages were made up by Marxist? May be the Illuminati is behind all of this…..It is true that there is much to be studied. There are many discoveries yet to be made. None the less after all of these years and studies made by thousands of scientist across the branches of science, I seriously doubt that thousands of scientist are in secretive agreement to suppress any major find. And no if some of you have concluded that I am an atheist. Sometimes it seems that people of faith are seeking any means possible to cubby hole reality to fit their understanding of the cosmos. On the other hand there scientist and atheist alike who find religion the greatest hindrance to understanding the universe……

      • Swinging on a star

        Genesis 1:24-31

        And God said, “Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds—livestock and creeping things and beasts of the earth according to their kinds.” And it was so. And God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds and the livestock according to their kinds, and everything that creeps on the ground according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. And God blessed them. And God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”

        In my opinion, any question one may have has an answer and a solution in the Holy Bible. How dare mere mortals act superior to the Lord, yet they do all the time, one day they will be judged and they will know the truth.

        • Jay in UK

          Science keeps changing its mind about so many things, one wonders how the atheists can put their trust in it at all.

          We have to let the Bible interpret experience in this world, not the other way round. If the powers that be one day tell us we are not alone in the universe and can appear to produce very plausible evidence, including specimens of alleged alien beings, we still know that it’s a lie. How would we know this? Because the earth and the universe beyond have been cursed for man’s sake, thus making man alone the only sentient being in the universe.

          • WhoWuddaThunkIt

            Wow Jay, your mind is trapped centuries back ago. Its religion that keeps changing. It started out as one version story then evolved into about 105 recognized religions, which many contradict each other, including fighting wars for such discrepancy. Then the Bible keeps changing and being rewritten too, to fit their human needs of the church. King James version, or was it the Old Testament, Or maybe the New Testament? I guess it was getting harder to get women to donate money to the church when the bible found it to be perfectly acceptable to stone them for infidelity. Science is like a puzzle, and will adapt to new discovered factual data. Religion and Faith is nothing more than a set of brain washed beliefs with out any facts or proof. Why hasn’t religion ever opened up any museums, to show proof of any factual found data to back up the Bible fable stories? So why be trapped into a 20 century year old thought process? Adapt like evolution and get up to speed with reality. Have you ever found Religion to disprove any science or history, astronomy, archaeology, physics, etc… with any actual proof? If so show me. Peace man.

            • eppe

              WWTI, always wondered why GOD would tell the Israelites to kill off totally 35 tribes, of a million or more each tribe, in the old testament, like a mean spirit, then in the new testament, turn into a ‘nice guy’??? I know I will get redded to the max, but it does make one think???

              I always say “Everything we know is wrong”, this article sorta proves it to a degree….

              Let the red paint flow….

              • eppe

                cool tool…


                Been collecting small river smooth rocks for my Shoot-a-palooza for the kids to target practice shoot at between shooting real guns….
                Got 2 older Wrist Rockets myself, but these are righteous…

              • the renegade braveheart

                Eppe. everything the commies know is wrong.

              • talon1776

                The predisposition doctrine has always been a unresolved issue in me. An all knowing …from before the foundation of the world God…knew all of us doctrine has always puzzled me..if God knew all this was going to happen why did He just end it all right after Adam and Eve. Seems God would have known Satan was going to rebel also. Even more intriguing..Satan is a creation of God …is both good and evil of God?
                I wish I could ask God this one question and get a answer:

                Why did you put that fucking snake in the garden?

                Live Free or Die

                • passinwiththewind

                  @ talon,

                  The short answer to your question is….freewill.

                  Without it applying to all God’s children and to them while they/we, were also in spirit/angelic form, then there can’t be “true” love/compassion, for God or anyone else.

                  God didn’t create evil. Evil came out of Satan through his jealously and pride. He replaced love and compassion with hate and greed, that’s the evilness of man. Man isn’t born with it. He learns it.

                  As guardian of the throne of God, satan/Lucifer, imagined himself as God and disobeyed God. Did he actually sit in the seat/throne and gain more supernatural powers from sitting there?….
                  We aren’t told for sure; but, we do know that Satan was given more knowledge and beauty than most, and with that knowledge comes power. With too much pride and power comes rebellion and destruction.

                  Don’t believe it? Just look at the politicians and leaders in the world today. They look at themselves as mini-gods. Hence the world of shit we are neck deep in.

                  Just as those leaders, when they are exposed for what they truly are, they loose trust of the people and are either ousted or have to threaten, kill, and destroy to keep their position;……

                  Satan is in the same boat; he lost God’s trust and some of the third of God’s children that followed him, in the first Heaven and Earth Age, have turned back to God.

                  That “whole turning back to God thing” is the very reason God destroyed the “first” Age and brought in this one. That is the reason we were all re-created into flesh bodies, so we could decide who we were going to follow, once and for all. No memories of that “first” earth age; it’s supernaturally blocked from our minds.
                  When we are told we only use 10% of our brain capacity, we are only recalling what God wants us to recall/remember. Most people just don’t get it.

                  God said it best when he said His people were a little “sottish”= Jeremiah 4:22. Sottish means stupid from the Hebrew translation. Oh, btw, God created the Hebrew tongue/language as the original language, so don’t try to give jews credit for that.

                • .02

                  Isaiah 45:7

                  I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

                • Jay in UK

                  @ Talon, I’m from the UK so that makes me “a Limey”? So, you’re all Yanks then? Even the boys from deepest Dixie?

                  For the record, I’m from Northern Ireland, a small region of the UK where guns are allowed, even semi autos – unlike all the Welsh, Scots and “Limeys” on the mainland – and we can open carry as well.

                  I was harsh in my initial reply to you because you dropped an f-bomb into a post about the Lord. It was very disrespectful towards the Creator.

                  Moving on… Predestination is explicitly stated in Scripture; “free will” is an Arminian doctrine of the Counter Reformation designed to undo the effects of Luther, Calvin, et al.

                  The Bible says nothing of the origins of sin; sure, Adam and Eve sinned, but the actual root of it is not disclosed. The forbidden fruit was designed to show them they were sinners, so at some stage between their creation and the act of eating the forbidden fruit, they had already sinned in their hearts by coveting that which was not permitted, and by disbelieving God.

                  The devil was instrumental in this, but then again, both salvation and damnation bring glory to God, demonstrating different aspects of His nature: mercy in forgiving, wrath at the unforgiven. Predestination and reprobacy also demonstrate another aspect of His being: the sovereignty of God to choose on whom he will have mercy and whom He will harden.

                  God does not conform to what popular Arminian evangelists say about Him. Theirs is an almost impotent entity who cannot save unless allowed by the “free will” of man. Their caricature of God loves and tries to save, but in vain. And they bafflingly conflate divine love with the existence of man’s imagined “free will”. But here’s what God’s Word says about it all:

                  “The king’s heart is in the hands of the Lord, as the rivers of water: he turneth it whithersoever he will” – Prov 21:1

              • tom

                God wanted these tribes destroyed because they were hybrid. Nephalim and human. Had nothing to do with God having a mean spirit. If you want further info check out Chuck Missler on youtube. Also checkout DR. Stephen Meyer on Youtube. Meyer has scientifically been showing why evolution is flawed.

                • Jay in UK

                  Those tribes were a danger to the plan of salvation for redeemed humanity, that’s why they had to be annihilated.

                  “Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?” – Gen 18:25.

                  @ Talon: You’re on the same side as the enemies of liberty, despite your nice 1776 reference. “The Lord hath created all things for himself; yea, even the wicked for the day of evil”. – Prov 16:4

                  When it all boils down, there are only two kinds of people in this world: the Lord’s and everyone else.

                • talon1776

                  I find infantile to acquaint my position on Liberty and Freedom to a doctrinal dogma on supposed “free will vs. Predestination”.That was a pretty pompous statement to use scripture as your basis for calling me an enemy of Liberty. My guess is you shy away from critical thinking and a perfect fit for your Limey Lame Zombie Nation…the UK is it, mate?..or…I got it!…goobament, UN distractor. The Zombie motto: God save the Queens. When the jack booted thugs come rapping on your door..put a dress on.

                  Live Free or Die

              • Anonymous

                Ha, ha! I agree, eppe! 100%!!! However, God is not a book! Your relationship with the Source from which you came is the most important thing in the world. God is Love; God is Truth.

                Please read, “Heading Toward Omega”. (near death experiences)

            • guero

              The most famous paleontologist in the world, Harvard’s Stephen Jay Gould, said, “The extreme rarity of transitional forms in the fossil record persists as the trade secret of paleontology.” (Note” “extreme rarity” is Harvard-speak for “nada, zilch, zippo.”)
              James Shapiro of the University of Chicago… “There are no detailed Darwinian accounts for the evolution of any fundamental biochemical or cellular systems, only a variety of wishful speculations.”

              From University of Bristol scientist Alan Linton… “Throughout 150 years of the science of bacteriology, there is no evidence that one species of bacteria has changed into another. None exists in the literature claiming that one species has been shown to evolve into another.”
              Bryan Fischer… What the fossil record teaches us, in contrast to the theory of evolution, is that increasingly complex life forms appear fully formed in the record.

              • Dr.M.

                Some comments out of context, and others wrong. Bacteria evolve resistance to antibiotics commonly. We see it all the time, accelerated evolution in response to changing pressures in natural selection (overuse of antibiotics). It’s an arms race of medication development vs. bacterial evolution.

                I respect people’s religions. But this article is BS – the guy got dumped because he was managing and presenting data in an effort to prove his religion. That’s not science.

                Read a little more and find the truth.

                • Tonto

                  In the mid-1980s, biologist Carl Woese stunned his colleagues with a shattering discovery. There wasn’t just the predicted (and essential) single source for all forms of life; there were two: two types of prokaryotic bacteria as distinct as apples and oranges, dogs and cats, horses and cows: two distinct forms of life, alive and well on the planet at 4.0 billion years ago. How to explain separate forms of life in an environment that would make hell seem like a summer resort?

                  Most objective scholars now accept that the first forms of life had to have been delivered to earth because: (1) they appear as two groups of prokaryotes (archaea and true bacteria); (2) they appear whole and complete; (3) the hellish primordial Earth is unimaginable as an incubator for life; and (4) a half-billion years seems far too brief to permit a gradual, step-by-step assembly of the incredible complexity of prokaryotic biology and biochemistry.

                • Tim

                  This guy got dumped because he presented hard data which showed that soft tissues were still connected to dinosaur bones. This implies strongly that dinosaurs did not die out 65 million years ago; this is what the Bible states categorically; this cannot be tolerated; science, and indeed all forms of human “wisdom” have the underlying driving ideology that they need to supplant YHVH as the Creator. Any scientist not adhering to this dogma will be terminated.
                  The phenomenon is known as closing ranks against a perceived threat.
                  This man did not have to make an effort to prove his religion; the facts do this for him.
                  Terminating the services of such a man is as childish an attitude as thinking that pulling the blankets over your head will prevent an intruder into your bedroom from seeing you.
                  “Thou, God, seest me”.
                  Btw; resistance to antibiotics is not evolution, it is merely an adjustment to the local circumstances; given a removal of the antibiotic, the organism will revert to its former state.
                  Dr M will have heard of the emerging science of epigenetics; it is time that he began to study it.

            • Anonymous

              Religion and faith are not synonymous, whdunnit, thunkit, or whatever. I agree that religion kinda sucks– and yes, most wars ever fought were over religion. and the part about dominion over the earth? as MCR said, that is why the earth is being destroyed– because of stuff people picked up from the Bible.

              However, like I said, religion is not faith. A person can beieve or even know that God exists and still not be “religious” (that is hooked on man-made dogma, which changes from group to group). God is not religion. God is Love. Please don’t give up your thirst for Truth because of bs found amongst some religions. God is Truth. God is Love. Period!

              • Tim

                “Most wars ever fought were over religion”.
                This is drivel of the purest kind.
                Genghis Khan? The Romans and their wars of conquest? The Greek invasion of Asia Minor? The British and their wars of aggression against China, which were designed to perpetuate their drug trade? Their Zulu Wars? The American Civil War? World Wars One and Two? The Russian Revolution?
                You really need to get a grip on reality, Anon.

            • Anonymous

              Show you? Ok, you can start with the book, “Heading Toward Omega”. When you finish, I will tell you more.

          • omegaman

            Should I put my faith in a made believe man in the sky above?

            • Jay in UK

              As opposed to putting your faith in the flawed opinions of fallible men who continually change their mind? Three very quick examples:

              Big Bang is now Big Crunch.

              Dinosaurs were said to be like reptiles, now they tell us they were more like birds.

              Butter was bad for you, now they tell us it’s good for you.

              And that’s before we even consider the absence of vast tracts of transitional fossil forms in the rock strata. But people would rather believe in anything than in a moral Creator with Whom they will one day have to deal.

              • Anonymous

                God and science are not antithecal, Jay!

              • talon1776

                NEWS FLASH: Your dogmatic protestations are a revelation of your falliableness

            • Anonymous

              No, but it would be wise to start trying to get to know your Maker NOW before the Apocalypse comes, because you’re going to need His help when all hell breaks lose. (Hint, “the kingdom of God is within… they will look here and there (and in the sky, too) but behold, the Kingdom of God is within you.).

          • Anonymous

            How simple minded: atheists = believe in science. God-loving people = don’t believe in science. WRONG!

          • Tim

            Almost correct, Jay.
            Obviously, the angels are also sentient beings, as is the Lord God Who created us so very recently to have dominion over the earth.
            The fallen angels are the ones who constantly orbit our earth as the phenomena known as UFOs; or greys, when they intrude more intimately into the world.
            The angels of God do not come into our realm unless ordered to do so by the Most High.
            Of such are Gabriel and Michael, and the heavenly host which appeared to men at the time of the incarnation of the Lord Jesus Christ.

        • Swinging on a star

          Seem like there are more than a few on this site who don’t tolerate religion. WHY?

          • Feisty Old Broad

            My Understanding and MY Belief in GOD is evident in everyday life, in Nature, AND within the Universe….physics within the Bible, check it out

          • no justice

            Religion has fostered more pedophiles, killed more people and enslaved more people than any other movement.

            • Walt Kowalski

              “Religion has fostered more pedophiles, killed more people and enslaved more people than any other movement.” –no justice–

              That’s simply a lie. But if you repeat it enough, a lot of people (who are too lazy to check the facts) will believe it. Most will believe the lie because they WANT to believe the lie.

              Daniel Patrick Moynihan said, “You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts.”

              That would certainly apply here.

              More people have been killed by secular forms of government than by religion throughout human history. And that is fact.

              Check the link and look at the numbers:


            • 9 3/4

              That is an example of a faith-based statement unless there is some data to support it. At best it could be an hypothesis, but only if you state its limits. It is not even a theory until a way of testing it is proposed. It may be true but simply stating it does not make it so, no matter what kind of “consensus” exists for its acceptance.

            • nosuchuser

              I always liked: ‘Good men will do good and evil men will do evil as a matter of course. Getting a good man to do evil requires religion’.

              • Ugly

                And that religion could be atheism….

                • Walt Kowalski


                  “….on March 4, 1987, U.S. District Judge W. Brevard Hand, in Smith v. Board of School Commissioners of Mobile County, Ala., ruled that secular humanism is a religion. The 172-page ruling defines religion and concludes, after reviewing the relevant aspects of humanism, that “For purposes of the First Amendment, secular humanism is a religious belief system, entitled to the protections of, and subject to the prohibitions of, the religious clauses.”” –quote from the article in link above–

                  And yet….the core beliefs of humanism are taught as fact in our public schools to the exclusion of other religious beliefs.

                  Make no mistake….atheism and secular humanism are a religion. And its followers are as intolerant as any other “religious fanatic”…..if not more so.

                  One has only to read some of the comments in this thread to see that.

                • Feisty Old Broad

                  Excellent Ugly! Atheism IS indeed a religion of and for itself….

              • Walt Kowalski

                I’ve always liked the quote:

                “When people stop believing in God, they don’t believe in nothing — they believe in anything.” –G.K. Chesterton–

            • Jay in UK

              Tell me again, what religion was Josef Stalin? Chairman Mao? Adolf Hitler? Pol Pot? All mass genocidalists, all ATHEISTS.

              • Tim

                Hitler was an avowed Christian.
                In his own words;
                “Christianity…the unshakeable foundation of the moral and ethical life of our people”
                “Faith is absolutely the only basis of a moral outlook on life”
                Photographs show him emerging from churches. He massively expanded the Deutsch Christian movement.
                Hitler was not a genocidalist; this is a jewish fable, promulgated by the victors in that conflict.
                Himmler however was a pagan, and despised Christianity, which he described as a perverse ideology, alien to life. He it was who, unbeknownst to Hitler, organized the Operation Reinhardt extermination of jews, not by gassing, but by shooting, in four eastern European camps including Sobibor and Treblinka. For this he was bludgeoned to death by the British in a “special house” shortly after his surrender to them. His death by cyanide is a lie.
                Once you realise that the Second World War was a fight to the death between the International Money Power, ie the jews, and Germany, which had escaped from their usurious and lethal embrace, then you begin to understand why what is said today is said. It has nothing at all to do with truth or justice or morality.
                As an initial entrance into this truth, be aware that the celebrated Winston Churchill began to call for the holocaust of Germany in 1936, shortly after he accepted £40,000 from the jewish chairman of the Shell Oil Company.
                Now read on.

          • The Moon is a Harsh Mistress

            As a born-again Pastafarian I sometimes wonder the same thing. I have no trouble accepting that the Earth is far younger than the widely accepted scientific establishment theories of a planet that is billions of years old. The Occam’s Razor argument is often used by the scientific establishment to justify why one theory is more likely to be correct than a competing theory.

            According to the Occam’s Razor argument, if two theories appear to be equally valid, then the simpler explanation is more likely to be the correct one. For example, current scientific theory regarding the age of the Earth rely upon explanations based upon plate tectonics and continental drift, and use the carbon dating method by which the radioactive decay rate of carbon-14 into nitrogen-14 is used to estimate how old an object is based upon the relative amounts of carbon 14 and nitrogen 14. To me, this is unnecessarily complex. My theory, which is widely accepted by my fellow Pastafarians, and based upon unmeasurable evidence but highly probable conjecture, is that the Earth was created by an invisible Flying Spaghetti Monster approx. eight thousand years ago. When a scientist performs an experiment measuring the relative percentages of carbon and nitrogen-14 in a fossil of a dinosaur, the invisible Flying Spaghetti Monster is there, reaching over the scientist’s shoulder with his invisible noodly appendage, changing the results of the experiment to make it seem that the fossil is far, far older than it really is. As to why He does this is unknown; to me it is irrelevant. What is important is that this is a much simpler explanation than the continents constantly move around the surface of the planet over billions of years and rocks containing some mysterious elements that decay at predictable rates.

            His Noodly Goodness realizes that not all who seek knowledge will accept the touch of His Beneficent Noodly Appendage, but allows for that weakness in His creations. Followers of the Holy Noodle are urged to be tolerant of other, competing faiths because after all, ours is the One True Faith, and eventually others who have been blinded by disbelief will become believers through our example.

            Go forth and judge not that ye too be judged.

            In the name of the Holy Noodle,


            • nosuchuser


            • Anonymous

              moon…you are an asshole.

              • The Moon is a Harsh Mistress

                Nothing like skewering a few sacred cows to bring out the tolerance in the faithful. The more sacred the cow, the better the kebab!

                • wrong

                  Love the kebab’s!!!!! In India they would rather eat dirt pies than a good steak. Idiots

            • Anonymous

              moon…you are a hemmroid.

            • Anonymous

              Obviously, you don’t know God– what a shame… oh, well, yoou will change in the coming apocalypse.

            • Tim

              Your foolishness beggars belief. You are captured by your own wickedness, and the science you quote will be your judge.
              Firstly, carbon dating can only be used on specimens of around 5000 years of age.
              Uranium-Lead decay ratios are used for older specimens, such as are found in rocks alleged to be ancient, and/or variations of these elements.
              The science which entraps you is based upon the recent discovery that elements bombarded by bremstrahlung radiation are stripped of their outer electron shells. Once these protective layers are removed, the nucleus decays orders of magnitude faster than expected.
              Thus, rocks claimed to be ancient can be infinitely younger than it appears.
              The BR mentioned arose when the earth’s crust flexed catastrophically during the Flood of Noah’s time. This occurred in 2348 BC. Even a fool such as you will be aware that quartz emits high-energy electrons on compression; this electron flux caused the radioactive elements in the crust to decay to simpler forms such as lead.
              Dr Walt Brown has the scientific knowledge which you so patently lack. His Center for Creation Science website will drag your grade-school science up to a more adult level, assunming of course that you do not wish to continue to wallow in the ignorance which presently characterizes your comments.

          • the renegade braveheart

            Swinging, we just don’t tolerate FALSE religions, but TRUE religion we’ll always accept.

        • John W.

          You would make a good Muslim. Fools like you make me glad that we have as of yet no state religion. The bible was written or passed on by word of mouth by semi literate people who never traveled more than twenty miles from where they were born. Humans really do enjoy living in the muck and ignorance that comes so easy to them.

          • Walt Kowalski

            @John W…..

            What you fail to understand, is that Christians don’t want a state religion either.

            Whether you want to admit it or not, our country was founded for the most part, by religious men who knew full well the evils of a state religion.

          • Tim

            I should remind you that the Children of Israel travelled from Egypt to Canaan, a distance of rather more than 20 miles, and similarly so with Abram, who journeyed from Ur to Canaan.

        • sixpack

          “And God said, “Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds—”

          Crawling out of the sea and evolving into what we are today, surely validates that passage. It never says how the creatures started out. It only appears, IMHO, to validate the evolution of God’s creatures.

      • Feisty Old Broad

        I believe that Faith and Science go hand in hand…..

        • passinwiththewind

          I believe that Faith and “some” science go hand in hand.

          When God’s word backs up science and vice versa.

          For example:

          God says a thousand of man’s days are equal to one of his. That being true, then start with creation….Six days to create “almost” everything for this particular Heaven and Earth Age. Resting on the seventh would have made this age 7000 years old before Adam and Eve were created.

          Now here comes the eighth day creation…. Adam and Eve and domestic animals, which God let Adam name.

          Total of 7000 years plus ever how many it took God to finish his “eighth” day creations.

          Time is measured from then on, in increments that man goes by, the solar days….approximately 365 each year.

          Almost all science agrees on about 4000 to 4004 years, since the time of Adam and Eve, and before Christ came and went. We know there has been about 2014 years since Christ did that.

          7000 years (before Adam and Eve) plus the approximate 6018 years since Adam and Eve; and this “Heaven and Earth Age” is about 13,018 years old.

          The Heaven and Earth Age, before this Age, is millions, if not billions of years old. Science confirms it.

          Difference is, the flesh man and woman, the majority of the population then, known as the ethnos/ethnic peoples, were created as “the man Adam” on God’s sixth day of this creation period. Adam “the man”, whence Eve came from, has a different name in the Hebrew tongue to confirm the difference. Making man’s first presence on earth, “in the flesh”, between 7018 to 8000 years ago.

          All prehistoric creatures known as dinosaurs, were killed during the “first flood (NOT Noah’s) and Ice Age” a long time before that 13 to 14 thousand years time period. Scientist say that crocodiles and alligators are prehistoric. Maybe so, maybe God brought forth some creatures forward from that age; we can’t be 100% sure they are exactly the same today as they were then. But maybe so.

          I believe man did walk the earth during the time of dinosaurs; but in his spirit/angelic bodies only. Man was created in the flesh for the first time on God’s sixth day of creation during this Age.

          That brings forth a question I was perplexed with for many years, until recently; about the existence of the Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon beings,and how science has always taught that we were descendants of them.

          New scientific DNA extraction and processing techniques, shown on special programming on PBS recently, has proven with almost 100% certainity that all the skulls and bones collected and tested of these creatures are not of human origin. Some tested to be the most like primate DNA and there was a slight possibility of DNA that “closely” resembled human DNA present.

          In effect, they were not fully human, but “could” have been crossed with human DNA somehow. I have a theory, but I am in enough trouble with folks already with my beliefs and explanations.

          The dating of those specimens of Neanderthal and Cro-magnons, all dated from as early as 20 to 30 thousand years ago until as far back as 300,000 years.

          No human bones dating from 8000 years ago until that earliest time. Wonder why?

          I can go along with that dating, and the possibility that they (Neandertals and Cro-Magnons) were created by manipulations of DNA by God’s children on earth then, not in the flesh, but in spirit bodies as angelic beings, male, and quite capable of crossing dna with large primates like the docile orangutans.

          Does it matter in the BIG scheme of things? Not really, but I find it interesting, and can’t wait to find out what the actual truth is.


          ps. the red thumbs don’t bother me, so let her rip.

          • omegaman

            God doesn’t exist, fucktard.

            • FuckingPissed

              Omega man. How gay of you.

            • Jay in UK

              Yeah, you wish. And you’ll be wishing it for a long time bar God’s intervention in your life.

              • talon1776

                You need to get a gun..I doubt you have one in the gay UK…but yet you think your religious psyops have any effect…just walk in the view of my crosshairs…

          • FuckingPissed

            Wrong. A day for the Lord is one thousand years for us.

            • passinwiththewind

              You are right.

              I misspoke. Should have said, “a thousand “years” with man is like unto a day with the Lord/God”.
              But I did get the calculations correct, as i wanted them.

              I stand corrected.
              Thank you, F.P.

              • FuckingPissed

                Cool. You are better at math than I!

              • Walt Kowalski

                All that passage really means is that God exists outside of time….i.e….he is not bound by it.

                I am always amazed by folks who claim to believe in God, and that he created the universe, yet can’t seem to believe that he could speak the earth into existence in six days. For those folks…I’d suggest that your god is too small.

                Frankly, for me, time is a subject that’s hard to wrap my mind around anyway. Quantum mechanics makes my head hurt.

                • Indy Colts

                  +1 my brother Walt.

                  The word says he SPOKE the world into existance. It didn’t say he used evolution over millions of years. I’m really suprised at the number of atheists on SHTF. I guess it’s another reflection of our unbelieving society.

                  Ask men who have been to war if they have spoken with GOD. Ever heard the saying “there’s no atheists in fox holes?”

                  I just watched a video from a guy in Iraq that said when he was being shot at, he felt GOD push his head away from the bullet. He never believed in GOD but said when your life is on the line, you start talking to a being greater than yourself. We are born with this instinct no matter how much we fight it.

          • Egg

            A T Rex bone was also found to have soft tissue (the observer put the goo/different tissue from marrow area in oil & could see collagen elastin). Good comments & discussion …

          • PWYPreach

            Here’s the best part about conjecture: I may not agree, but it opens my mind up to possibilities such as:

            1. Are there “layers” of human existence, i.e., is Earth a proving ground for more than 1 ‘wave’ of humans? “In my father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you”…John 14:2.

            2. What if we were the fence-sitters in the biblical war that occurred between the hosts of heaven and we still need to pick a side?

            3. Why is there so much evil on the earth and why do humans corrupt so easily? “9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.” (Notice where Satan and his minions were sent after the war in heaven -> EARTH)

            3. Intermixed DNA? Humans definitely get “too big for their britches” and cocky. What if earlier humans did things that are contrary to creation such as what they are doing now with their Frankenstein experiments?

            So many questions…so many amazing answers lie ahead!

          • Night Breaker

            Passin in the wind ,
            If that the case , some facts know about human existence is the reliance of our bodies of the element selenium WHICH IS RARE IN EARTHS CRUST. If an organism was to arise chemically bound to its environment would it NOT be dependent upon a substance of extrterestial origion ?
            If the DNA is so different from the dead ended prehumans could this not frighteningly indicate that modern human beings were not originally indigenous to this planet and may have developed elsewhere?

            Considering our written history excluding the bible only goes back 5000 years , many possibilities exist in the time frame of 8000 years , how many civilizations have risen and fallen in that time period and have vanished without a trace . ( how much knowledge was lost in the library of Alexandria , many feats were accomplished in the ancient world without advanced analytical machines ( computers) look at some of the ancient architectural engineering in some of the surviving structures all built without benefit of modern machinery.

            Two things observed in the human condition , the need to explore and the will to destroy , not a good combination for longevity of a species .

            Maybe all we know is not what we perceive it is.

            Semper Fi 8541

            • passinwiththewind

              Semper Fi, back to ya, Night Breaker.

              I wanted to be a Marine, like my uncle, that served in Vietnam, but was a little too young before it all ended, and marriage and a kid took precedence after that.
              My hat is off to you and all military folks.

              You hit the nail on the head, with the statement; “If the DNA is so different from the dead ended prehumans could this not frighteningly indicate that modern human beings were not originally indigenous to this planet and may have developed elsewhere?”

              Flesh humans, were not indigenous to this planet prior to the beginning of this Earth Age, which began about 13 to 14 thousand years ago. God created all souls during the first Heaven and Earth Age and placed them into spirit bodies. Those bodies had no organic materials and didn’t need blood as a lifeline of support as a flesh body does. But it did have sperma/DNA.

              We were alive then and still alive today. No one has been destroyed or better said; had a death of the soul.

              We are in a different dimension from that previous existence. In that dimension, God says, “flesh and blood can not enter”. However; a spirit body can enter this dimension.

              Our DNA was created before ( in the first Age) before this flesh/organic body was created ( in this 2nd Age).
              Yea, we got some DNA from our “Earthly parents”, but our spirit/the intellect of our soul, was created previously.
              God walked with flesh man for a while.

              Now i am really gonna blow the minds of folks.

              Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God, walked with earthly man also, way before He was born into the flesh body. Just as we were “born from above”, meaning our soul was placed into flesh bodies at the moment of conception; so was Jesus Christ’s soul placed there by the Holy Spirit/God/ breath of life/, when he was conceived in the womb of the virgin Mary.

              Read in Hebrews, Chapters 5 thru 7, and there you will find the Word of God telling us that Jesus Christ was King Melchisedec, before, He came to this world known as Jesus Christ, He walked with man, especially Abraham, as the King of the just.

              Spelled Melchisedec in the Greek, and Melchizedek (see Genesis 14) in the Hebrew.
              Son of God, that kept the order.
              King of Kings, and Lord of Lords, when he returns.

              All confusion will be dissolved when that day comes, and the teachings of truth begins.

              All those that don’t believe, will see and bow down before the One.

              No one gets a free pass. No atheists after the return of Christ and the dissolving away of the flesh body/rapture. The pre-trib rapture/change is a hoax that began with a lie from Satan and has been perpetuated by ignorant preachers/teachers/seminaries.

          • 9 3/4

            Adam and Eve are recorded as being made on the 6th day, and then He rested.

        • WhoWuddaThunkIt

          Religion chose you, you did not choose religion, since you were an infant the brain washing began. Religion and faith is a set of beliefs without any proof. Science spells it out in black in white. Religion is for lazy people who can’t comprehend science. And any parent that that teaches your kids that religion is true is duping them into the same false hoods, thus another generation of ignoramuses.

          • Tim

            “… Religion and faith is a set of beliefs without any proof….”
            Beneath the Gulf of Aqaba, and halfway along its length, is a compacted sandy causeway seven miles wide. It stretches from a huge beach still called Nuweiba al-Mousa in Sinai, over to Saudi Arabia, ie the Land of Midian of ancient times. Upon it are golden chariot wheels and human and equine ribcages dated to and originating from 15th century BC Egypt.
            Beyond this site is found a giant mountain of rock split cleanly down the middle, from whose base there self-evidently emerged vast volumes of water at some time in the past; and this in a land which is arid in the extreme.
            6000′ up the side of the mountains of Ararat in Turkey is a mostly-buried structure of precisely the dimensions mentioned in Genesis as pertaining to the Ark. It is surrounded with giant pierced stone anchors. Its lines of rivets are found to be composed of an iron-aluminium-titanium alloy.Its laminated wooden planks are covered with pitch, or “kopher” in the Hebrew. ( not “gopher” as rendered by the KJV. )
            From within the mound have been extracted cat hairs, fossilized antlers, and dung.
            I invite our worthy correspondent to explain these findings in any other way than that outlined for us in the Books of Genesis and Exodus.
            I also invite him to explain to us how it is that the very first word of Genesis, ie “Barasheet” in the Hebrew and “In the beginning” in English, could be proved to state, by reference to the individual letters comprising the word, the immortal Truth
            “The Son of God will die by His own hand upon a cross”; and furthermore to explain to us how the names of the first ten patriarchs from Adam to Noah might spell out the sentence “Man created mortal sorrow, the Blessed God shall come down teaching; His death shall bring the despairing rest and comfort”.
            And this in the holy book of a religion which has always rejected and despised a suffering Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God.

      • FuckingPissed

        I guess the T-Rex was like the scum swat teams of today. Monsters that come out of nowhere to kill you and your loved ones. I bet early man figured out a way to kill those monsters too. Traps……

        • eppe

          T Rex was always pissed, he had short arms and could not pleasure himself….;)

      • Jim

        Armitrage’s funding was pulled, his research was silenced and his job at CSU was terminated.

        That’s because he is an idiot.

        • Egg

          So you know him personally I presume. Or is that because you are afraid of the possible implications?

          • nosuchuser

            I his ‘research’ had the slightest hint of validity then it would be recognized. There is a literal army of graduate students, post-docs, and PHDs that work all day every day to overturn our current theories. If this story was even slightly valid they would be all over it.

            We who value the expansion of human understanding dream of days when all of the text books must be thrown out and new ones get written. It is literally what we work towards and dream about daily.

        • m. Kennedy

          If he is an idiot, then why did they hire him in the first place? Sorry bud, but he said ‘stuff” they didn’t want to hear. End of story, Beginning of questioning true Scientific discovery questioning the “accepted” view. Science and politics do often go together.

          • The Moon is a Harsh Mistress

            Being an idiot has never appeared to be a barrier to employment with the educational establishment. In fact, being an idiot is almost a prerequisite to employment in the halls of higher learning. His mistake was claiming that dinosaurs and man coexisted instead of claiming that they were wiped out by global warming/climate change or rabid Tea Party activists who shot them all with their scary assault rifles.

            • Miss DeeDee

              Instead of scary assault rifles, Don’t you mean scary assault caveman clubs ?
              — Miss Dee Dee

        • Ugly

          Education and freedom of thought ended when the Dems confiscated the education system….it is now, think as we think….

      • Smokey

        This professor is going to get a good settlement out of the college endowment for this crap. If any business had fired an employee in this manner, they would pay, and so should the school.

        • nosuchuser

          He wasn’t a Professor, he was a laboratory technician. If he had been a tenured Professor then he couldn’t have been fired for forwarding ‘unpopular’ hypothesis. That is the exact reason behind granting Professors tenure, it grants then the academic freedom to pursue unpopular areas of research without fearing for their livelihood or repercussions.

          • Ugly

            That is funny. The real reason for tenure is for a couch potato syndrome of regurgitating the same ol bullshit from years past, and still collect a check for doing so….basically tenure was invented by snake oil salesman….

        • VRF

          up go the tuition’s
          next kids will have to dig into their parents pockets for more education money to pay back what the school had to pay out ..they aint gonna take it on the sleeve ..the citizens that use that school will pay for his law suit

          thats how it seems to work in this country..others pay for the stupidity and choices of others

          and our bills just keep going higher and the only ones getting rich off it are lawyers

      • Anon-lite

        Wouldn’t trust any ‘science’ out of commie-forna.
        Their ‘education’ system turns out math teachers who teach that children are right even if they get the answer wrong, so long as they show how they arrived at the answer, and this before common core.

        I think it speaks volumes when highschoolers are coming out of california’s public system mentally unable to perform basic operations, such as long division, without the aide of a calculator.

        Hell, I met an *engineer* from california, who needed a calculator for basic operations!

        Trust nothing from california.

        Whats the say of scientists from the same state?

      • Hugh Janus

        I’ve seen pictures of 800 year old stone carvings depicting a Stegasourous and pottery painted with a picture of a Triceratops.
        Reagan said (paraphrase):”So much of what we know is not true”.

        • Walt Kowalski

          Gotta correct your Reagan quote…

          Reagan said, “Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so.”

          • wrong

            same diff

      • charlie2dogs

        science has held back humanity for the last 100 years, most of your scientist have a paid for mentality, an agenda being controlled by those who have the money and power to control the thinking of the masses but that is changing, their days are coming to an end and good riddance, all that I was ever taught was a lie, all history is a lie, written by the victor, ww2 is a prime example a complete fabricated wasteland of lies.

      • jane

        I always believed that dinosaurs became extinct because people ate them all up.

        • dolores

          No, people did not eat up the dinosaurs to extinction. Dinosaurs became extinct because they ate each other up.

      • Tom Aumeg

        The whole question is one of how he presented his findings. If he wrote a paper saying that therefore triceratops was around during Biblical times, one can understand how the s would h the f. But most of the time, you can sneak the discovery into the mainstream if you know how to be subtle. Publishing it, perhaps with dating techniques, and asking the scientific community to assist in explaining the anomaly is one way. If it stands up, the consensus can slowly change. But if you overstep, then the field of science is more fierce than religion in defending its orthodoxy.

      • Expat

        Love the accompanying picture. Not even a Cretaceous era dino but a Jurassic one. Now that’s brave.
        Got to tell you folks that finding dinosaur “soft” tissue isn’t rare it’s actually fossilized soft tissue – skin and such, even blood.
        We actually walk with dinosaurs or at least their ancestors every day. They’re called birds.
        As to eyewitness accounts written in the bible and other places (sorry I couldn’t the whole ridiculous article) I once observed a “sea monster” surfacing in the Missouri River. True story, my dad saw it too. Had to be 15-18′ long. Now is there, or was there a fish that long in that river in the last 50 years? Doubt it, but I did see it. Go figure.

      • dillon b

        The article you showed is about a T-REX. “In 2000, paleontologist Bob Harmon found a Tyrannosaurus rex specimen in the Hell Creek Formation, an area of eastern Montana full of Cretaceous fossils”

        So.. this is not information about a Triceratops.

        This is why I asked about MINERAL evidence. Knowing how old the rock formation is that the find was in is how you date the find. The T rex was found in a layer containing other cretaceous fossils. Therefore…from circa 145 ± 4 to 66 million years ago.

        ᎦᏗᏒᎧᎧᎤ ᏠᎥᏁᎴ… This is bait and switch argumentation. You present us with a triceratops horn… and provide a T-Rex link. Gonna have to do better than that…lies and deceit PROVEN. I like all the co,mments of the religitards who actually belive you…fooled them thats for sure.

    2. River Rat

      Standing on the river bank today and a bottle washed up right at my feet. It had a note in it which read, this is why Government is allowing this influx of illegal aliens to enter this country, is nothing more than to try and raise the IQ of the vast majority of voters here. They are finding that it is becoming too easy to fool what is here now. It’s just something to think about.

      River Rat at the ready!!! NOMI///MOLON LABE! TSORIITA!!

      • WhoWuddaThunkIt

        That’s weird, last weekend I was standing on the beach and a bottle washed up at my feet. I picked it up and saw it had a rolled up note in the bottle. I pulled the cork out and then pulled the paper out. It read:

        “Help, Please rescue me fast!! The Skipper is starting to look at me real funny…” Gilligan.

        • Anonymous

          he once remarked to a young physicist: “I want to know how God created this world, I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know His thoughts, the rest are details.” Einstein’s famous epithet on the “uncertainty principle” was “God does not play dice” – and to him this was a real statement about a God in whom he believed. A famous saying of his was “Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.”

          • WhoWuddaThunkIt

            Einstein another Jew.

            • John W.

              Whose turds had more smarts than you ever will. What is with you Jew haters. Christ was born and died a Jew. Guess you hate him too.

            • PWYPreach

              Genesis: 12:1-3

              ” 12 Now the Lord had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father’s house, unto a land that I will shew thee:

              2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:

              3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.”

              YOU MAY want to pay attention to the third verse as Abraham is considered the founding father of the Jewish nation and cursing him/them is a BIG no-no.

              And for those of you who try to condemn Jews now and use as your reason the death of Christ, remember:

              Christ’s time on the Earth was complete, and suicide was not an option. Rome would not have killed Christ (they actually would have freed him), so Christ “needed” the Jews to condemn him to death so that he could “move on.”

            • WhoWuddaThunkIt

              Just stating that Einstein was a Jew. sheesh. One thing Einstein said was “I am not sure how WW3 will be fought, but WW4 will be fought with stick and stones. Another words the mass populations will commit self annihilation. He knew people will destroy themselves. And how did he know this? He is Jewish and as we are witnessing this today they are doing this right now to the world. Jewish Jihadist!!

              • Anonymous

                Well macky boy, looks like you’re up to your old censorship crap again. Is whodoo now your favorite doom porn shill, or do you feel he can’t fight his own battles either? This site is really getting to be a hate speech anti Jewish love fest forum isn’t it?

          • Feisty Old Broad

            A favorite quote of Einstein’s which I have on my wall….”There are two ways to live your life….One is as if nothing is a miracle, the other is as if everything is a miracle”.

            • tom

              Another great quote from Einstein: “I don’t know what type of weapons will be used to fight WW III. But WW IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”

              • Pissed Off Granny

                Einstein a Christian. Hardly, he was a Humanist.

                Before we take a post as truth, try doing a little research.

                Einstein quote:

                “About God, I cannot accept any concept based on the authority of the Church…..As long as I can remember I have resented mass indoctrination, I cannot prove to you there is NO personal God, but if I were to speak of him, I WOULD BE A LIAR. I do not believe in the God of theology who rewards good and punishes evil.”

                Sound like a Christian to you????

        • Feisty Old Broad

          Rembember….GOD sees the Hearts of ALL….if I were you (all), I would start praying…..

    3. Doubter

      Next they will say santa isnt real…

    4. WhoWuddaThunkIt

      Flintstones meet the Flintstones!!! Yabba Dabba Doo!!

    5. oUCH

      Liberals are the most intolerant of all humans.. with the possible exception of Muslim Radicals.. and that would be a close race.

      • the renegade braveheart

        And the Muslims would still destroy the liberals.

    6. Confederate

      Tell it to Fred Flintstone.

      • hammerhead

        In the beginning , god had a pen and a phone…..OH WAIT………

        • jerrytbg

          “…in the beginning”…in “A” beginning…


      I wonder why Ancient Chinese culture shows dragons while ancient British culture did the same with knights slaying dragons.

      Did the Chinese get together with the Brits in order to make sure that both cultures did the same thing?

      Truth is that mankind has known of “dragons” as dinasaurs and it has been passed down through the eons in each culture independantly.

      • erv

        There are also cave paintings that depict dinasaurs

        • Barn Cat

          No, there aren’t.

      • RickInOregon

        Dragons didn’t enter the western culture until the little ice age. The wetter climate created a black mold on wheat that when eaten had the same effect as LSD.

        ” Grain, if stored in cool, damp conditions, may develop a fungus known as ergot blight and also may ferment just enough to produce a drug similar to LSD. (In fact, some historians claim that the Salem, Massachusetts witch hysteria was the result of ergot blight.)”

        • hammerhead

          Thanks rick , I have never heard of that .

          Do ya think they store wheat in the basement at the whitehouse ?
          I think so .

          • RickInOregon

            they probably store it along with some shrooms, and peyote. Michelle’s special white house garden.

          • WhoWuddaThunkIt

            Buckwheat cornbread Fridays..

            • slicker

              Also first born egypt retrieved grain, moldy at the time. .. I ha e heard one cannot prove a negative. Cant prove transitional forms as they do not exist, who has more faith?

        • eppe

          Arnold Murray had a stone with a dino’s and man’s footprint in a mud chunk, could not find the video, but he told it like it was… Look it up, if you can find it.

          Good one Rick, they called it Saint Vitus fire, in the middle ages food was scarce, so moldy rye bread would be eaten, then they would go tripping out, sometimes for days…
          It can also be made from morning glory seeds or rosewood seeds, if you know how to do the process…
          Now days they put a poision coating on the morning glory seeds….
          Sassafrass made MDMA or extacy(spelling wrong) the rave drug. Sassafrass tea saved my life, it makes your kidneys expell toxins, drink a gallon of it and you will strobe badly…
          Amphetamine is made from a middle eastern plant called ephedra sinesis, or in Chinese maung hung…
          Cocaine made from the coca leaves, you can buy tea bags of coca in Peru now, great for an upset stomach…
          Salvia divernium was found by Hoffman,(who synthesized LSD) as the Mexican shamens would smoke and chew to see visions of the future.. Peyote grows on the mescal plant that makes mescal or tequila, the worm lives inside the plant and eats on the peyote. I ate two of them one night and was talking to GOD… Pysilibe? mushroom grows wild in south Georgia in cow dung after a rain… And of course you have cannibis, a plant that was legal up until 1937, it and codiene were main components in most over the counter potions for the general public… Read the book ‘The Emperor wears no clothes’. If you can find it…
          All pharms came from a natural plant or mold to start with. Strawberry flavoring comes from a mold originally…
          Having a bad kidney made me research all these things years ago, since doctors could not figure me out…
          Sorry Dr. Merree,(who we have not heard from in a while) but GOD put all plants on Earth for our food and medicine, says so in Genesis, look it up…. And please excuse my spelling…
          I will be in moderation for hours, so be patient…

          • eppe

            Okay everyone your joke for the night…
            Broken Lawn Mower

            When our lawn mower broke and wouldn’t run, my
            wife kept hinting to me that I should get it fixed.
            But, somehow I always had something else to
            take care of first, the truck, the car, or golf cart
            -always something I thought more important to do. Finally she thought of a clever way to make her point.

            When I arrived home one day, I found her seated in
            the tall grass, busily snipping away with a tiny
            pair of sewing scissors.
            I watched silently for a short time and then went
            into the house. I was gone only a few minutes when I came out again and handed her a toothbrush.

            I said, “When you finish cutting the grass, you
            might as well sweep the driveway.”

            The doctors say I will walk again, but I will always
            have a limp.

            It is getting hard to find jokes to please everyone, so be patient, but I keep trying…

            • eppe

              I wear a red thumb like a badge of honor, the crazies are out in force tonight….

            • the renegade braveheart

              Eppe, I spit out some tea on my keyboard on that one. Don’t worry, you’re not losing your touch. I know you’ll keep them coming.

        • nosuchuser

          It is important to note that the ergot fungus affects rye grains. Many interesting recorded historical ‘anomalies’ have been traced back to our little hallucinogenic friend. Of course there are many more incidents that can be attributed to rye whiskey…

          • eppe

            royal Crown is rye whiskey, like it, but in the morning it does not like me:)

      • Feisty Old Broad

        I find it interesting that some “mythic creatures” transcend cultures….for example: the Phoenix exists in many different cultures throughout the world….fascinating.

        • Feisty Old Broad

          Addendum: Mythic creatures, in my opinion, are based upon fact …..perhaps overstated….but when many different cultures have the SAME creature within their beliefs, it makes one wonder if they are all one and the same….one must remember that there was very little sharing of information “way back then”…..

        • John W.

          Just like mermaids were beautiful women. Eye witnesses are not reliable and all cultures make up whoppers for their own reasons.

    8. Stan522

      These university professor’s are where you will find like minded pointy headed philosophical bag of egalitarian, neo-Marxist Neanderthals where they sit in a circle and jerk each other off as they conduct their peer review studies……

    9. COBeach

      They also didn’t believe that the great apes of Africa existed till like the 60’s, and the earth was flat, blah blah. I like Science and all, but it needs to be open to all possibilities for it to be true Science.

      • WhoWuddaThunkIt

        The real breakthrough connecting ape to man was the 5 million yr old LUCY female ape creature that walked upright.

        Btw/ Funny they never mention anything about that in the bible. So the real question is, did Adam and Eve have belly buttons?

        • Archivist


        • John W.

          The Muslims will kill you over the stuff in the Koran to. Religion is about belief and science should be about facts. Religion is a fairy tale but in the case of Christians at least it had the goal of making people act more civilized.

          • nosuchuser

            2000 years of evidence indicates it hasn’t worked.

          • Walt Kowalski

            And the fact is, so much of past “science” has proved to be fairy tale.

            And one day, it will be demonstrated that much of current science is fairy tale as well.

            One such fairy tale is the myth of man caused global warming.

        • passinwiththewind

          No. Since they were formed by God’s own hands, they didn’t need them.

          All their off-spring did though.

          • eppe

            Arnold Murray’s videos are word by word, chapter by chapter type of study of the Bible. I have watched him for years, and it does make one think about what you read in the Bible. I am NOT saying he is correct, but it does make you think. With that said, this is a long video, 60 minutes long, but if you watch it you WILL question what we are taught. I watched MANY preachers for years, and if you would have an open mind upon what he says, (outside the MSM preachers) you might have another way of looking at the same thing we are taught, in fact look at all his videos, you might have a different view of the Bible…
            ht tp://
            You know what to do, copy and paste, remove the spaces… and I am not advocating he is correct, but what he says makes more sense than Hagee, Olsteen, and many others….
            I have an open mind, since we are only being told what others tell us, sorta like the MSM only tells us half the truth with current events….
            Please do not judge me for having an open mind, but if you open your Bible, and go word for word, per the scriptures, it does make sense……
            If you believe what he says, or not, at least give it a look, and watch other videos, he makes more sense than others….

            • eppe

              As Ozzie says “I’ve listened to preachers, I listened to fools”….

            • Pissed Off Granny


              Arnold Murray is an awesome minister; glad to see you like him too.

              Nick Goggin at the Watchmen Bible Study Site was a student of Murrays.

              Because Goggin does not have to “be careful” about his words he has expanded on what he learned from Murray.

              Ever wonder who the Kenites are that Murray warns you about in his sermons? You will know absolutely who they are if you go to biblestudy site dot com.

              Someone on a blog suggested us to take a look at biblestudy site. Best GIFT other than the Bible I have ever been given.

              God bless you, Eppe…..

              • eppe

                Descendants of Cain, offspring of Satan.

          • WhoWuddaThunkIt

            All sheep need to be lead.

            • sixpack


              • eppe

                Did Jesus not say “I am the Shepard, and you are my sheep?” not to piss off anyone, yes it was a parable to relate to the people at the time for them to relate? I have read the Bible front to back 10 times at least, and other books of other religions. Anyone read Cayce, sitchin, renard???? Believe in reincarnation? Read as much as possible on everything. Ever watch A ncient Aliens on history channel? Paint me red, but think outside the box, we will never know the truth till we meet our maker….

                • sixpack

                  That’s not the kind of sheep I think he meant. I could be wrong of course, but that’s what happens with short little posts that leave a lot to be desired, detail-wise.

                  We have to GUESS what they meant.

        • guero

          Human bones are much lighter than comparable primate bones. For that matter, our bones are much lighter than the bones of every
          “prehuman” ancestor through Neanderthal. Human muscles are significantly weaker than comparable muscles in primates. Pound-for-pound we are five to ten times weaker than
          any other primate. Human skin is not well adapted to the amount of sunlight striking Earth. All but blacks must avoid sunlight, or sicken from radiation poisoning.

          Because primates are quadrupeds (move on all fours), the thickest hair is on their back, the thinnest on the chest and abdomen. Humans
          have less hair all-over, and have completely opposite areas, with thicker hair on the chest and belly and thinner hair on the back.
          Humans have ten times as many fat cells attached to the underside of their skin as primates. Only in
          water is its insulating capacity useful. It also slows wound healing as compared to primates.

        • Ugly

          Lucy was no break through, except for idiots wanting something from nothing. The real break through was the evidence for a mitochondrial Eve. Lucy was no more than a baboon, much like the scientist? That supposedly discovered it….

    10. Navy Vet

      I guess that puts the pear review process in crapper. Now if they just do the same with all of the scientist that lie about global warming or is it climate change.

      • Navy Vet

        That should be peer not pear. Fat fingered that one.

      • Anonymous

        “pear review”… hee, hee! (figures!)


      Lol, even Greek culture shows dragons.

      Yip all these cultures got together via Skype conferencing 5000 years ago and agreed on uniformity on culture.


      Or maybe early mankind knew of dinasuars and depicted them as dragons.

      • WhoWuddaThunkIt

        Shhhhhhh….. don’t let MacDonalds hear about this preserved soft tissue meat, they will be serving it up as an alternative to the Expired Chinese Beef they have been buying lately.

        • eppe

          As John Coffy in the ‘Green Mile’ said “You a bad man”…
          Kidding of course….
          Glad you put jokes out there like

      • John W.

        Dinosaurs were gone fifty million years before men walked the earth. There are and have some pretty big lizards that have and do exist into modern times. All things in their time. God is in no hurry. That is a human trait.

    12. hammerhead

      They just dont wanna rewrite all those common core schoolbooks .

    13. Indy Colts

      They HATE GOD and will do anything to disprove his existance.

      I was watching the science channel and the program had differnet scientists talking about the earth. They all came to the conclusion. The earth will one day run out of resources and will die.

      Funny how many atheists change their tune after years of trying to discredit the bible. About time people put this dinosour thing to rest.

      My theory was that dinosaurs habitat was in a different area than early man. Early man was in the middle east and they only dinosaur fossils found their was a very few is Saudi Arabia.

      • WhoWuddaThunkIt

        Even though many people still debate how the “Beginning Was Created.” In the End, ALL People will quickly realize that “Darwin was right;” As the most “Fittest and Cunning” will survive far beyond the “Weak and Gullible.”

        • Sebastion T.

          “Since the dawn of history the Black Man has owned the continent of Africa – rich beyond the dream of poet’s fancy, crunching acres of diamonds beneath his bare black feet and yet he never picked one up from the dust until a white man showed to him its glittering light.
          His land swarmed with powerful and docile animals, yet he never dreamed a harness, cart, or sled. A hunter by necessity, he never made an axe, spear, or arrowhead worth preserving beyond the moment of its use.”

          “In a land of stone and timber he never sawed a foot of lumber, carved a block, or built a house save of broken sticks and mud.
          With league on league of ocean strand and miles of inland seas, for four thousand years he watched their surface ripple under the wind, heard the thunder of the surf, the howl of the storm over his head, gazed on the dim blue horizon calling him to worlds that lie beyond, and yet he never dreamed a sail.”
          — Charles Darwin

          • Nopittypartyhere

            There is a video on YouTube of a vy controls ill black preacher, preaching to his congregation that ‘the black man ain’t never created anything”. I know hardworking intelligent black people, but his description seems to describe the attitudes of most ill see if I can find the link and post.

            • Nopittypartyhere

              ► 6:26► 6:26
              Aug 20, 2012 – Uploaded by EuropeanWatchman2
              Pastor James David Manning on “Black Folk” … Black preacher explains why he hates …

            • Nopittypartyhere

              It’s in moderation. Google pastor James David manning on ‘black folk’

              • Pissed Off Granny

                Google Mannings’long Legged Mack Daddy’ what he thought of the current President. Took a black preacher to tell the truth back then…..

        • Egg

          Actually, the trait of altruism found in humans & other animals should have been bred out of us if the theory of “organic” (molecules to man aka macro) evolution was our origin. The amount of information passed on in DNA (based on information theory’s) alone is a good bit of evidence for an intelligent designer.

      • Anonymous

        No, “they” don’t all hate God (or disbelieve in God). Eisntein believed in God. You can’t just categorize people like that– saying all scientists do this or all blacks do that or all white men are greedy. Its ignorant.

        • Anonymous

          oops! I meant Einstein.

        • RickInOregon

          If you can not generalize how a group acts then explain “98% of blacks that voted, voted for obama”.

          Seeing things for what they really are and not what you would like them to be can be quite different. OJ Simpson’s attorney stacked the jury with blacks because he understood the difference between reality and unicorns.

          Pretending that reality is what you want it to be can get you killed, ask the bear man and his girlfriend (Timothy Treadwell and Amie Huguenard), oh you can’t, the bears killed them.

          • passinwiththewind

            Well put R-I-O!

      • WhoWuddaThunkIt

        Indy, we don’t hate anything, especially a myth.

      • John W.

        Some of you people are so ignorant that it is amusing.

    14. WhoWuddaThunkIt

      Wow sounds like the slice of toast shaped in the form of the Virgin Mary. And Suckers willing to bid thousands to acquire that Miracle.

    15. WhoWuddaThunkIt

      What is the scientific name for a Gay Dinosaur?
      A: Mega-Sore-ass.

      BTW/ Noah did not mention anything about putting dinosaurs on the ark? Maybe that is why they are now distinct. He would not let them on, and they could not swim. (sarcastic)

      • Bryan

        Just a note hear on what you said about Noah. In the book of Job we read that Job talks about the leviathan and then the Behemoth. The book of Job mentions snow 5 times so we know that Job was after the flood. So baby Behemonths and Leviathans could have gone onto the ARK as babies or very small youth ones.

        • John W.

          You actually believe that tale about Noah? How did a guy that lived in the Middle East get animals from Africa, The Americas, Asia and Australia plus all the other places he did not even know about and had no way to get to.

          • Archivist

            Photos at www (dot) arkdiscovery (dot) com/noah%27s_ark.htm

            Google Earth view is at 39 degrees 26′ 26″ N and 44 degrees 14′ 5″ E.

            Sure looks like a really big ship, and it’s at 6,470 feet altitude.

          • FOREIGNER

            continental drift

      • eppe

        Or a lesibian dino is a lickalotopus…
        Sorry just had to do it…
        good one WWTI…

        • RickInOregon

          Funny eppe,

          May I be political.

          The dinosaur lickalotopus = Hillary Clinton’s new name.

          DC = Dinosaur Clinton

        • eppe

          Tough crowd tonight….

          • the renegade braveheart

            Eppe and RickInOregon, I just gave both of you thumbs up. Keep them coming.

          • Nopittypartyhere

            Eppe I love your jokes, and I share them in the very politically incorrect OR.

        • WhoWuddaThunkIt

          Eppe, I cracked up. Forgot that sister joke, thanks for the addition.

          • eppe

            Wwti, we are on the same team, glad we can joke and be cool…

      • Egg

        Many large creatures start ou small & would have been manageable (in theory) for the time period elucidated in bible…just sayin’…

    16. Johnny

      Personally I would like to see some guy in knight armour ride a “dragon” into battle. Heck I would like to ride one myself, but the open minded, insert giggling, liberal who only like open minded when it benefits them, will stop at nothing to keep this hush hush.

      • hammerhead

        “I would like to see some guy in knight armour ride a “dragon” into battle”

        I saw it , in 2007 in chicago , and the knight had the most PERFECT pleat in his pants.
        It sent a thrill up my leg .

        • hammerhead

          HEY thumbs downer , dont ya remember he promised to slow the rising tides ?
          And Joe Biden said he was a “smooth and clean black man”.
          Is that not THRILL up yer leg worthy ? HAHAHAHA
          Chris Mathews thought so……….

    17. kynase

      Some of the greatest researchers with some of the most profound discoveries have been ignored/threatened/ostracized throughout history. Darwin, Einstein, Tesla, Galileo, etc….it wasn’t until years later and further research that people recognized the validity of their research. A great scientist will not deny the evidence…question the evidence, yes, but you can’t deny the evidence. I am a scientist and a Christian and can comfortably support the evidence of God.

      There are loads and loads of scientific evidence to support the existence of God. “There is a God” written by an atheist turned christian went out to find the evidence to discredit God, but could only find evidence to support.

      Unfortunately, most people don’t like it when it is pointed out to them something different than their belief structure or understanding of the world. God gave us a brain and the choice…we should all be grateful that we aren’t forced to follow God. The evidence is there…it is whether or not we choose to accept it…and that, my friends, is faith.

      • atheist

        Well then give me one solid fact proving your god scientificly then that has actual backing and proof

    18. IowaSparky

      Thank you for posting this Mac! I have never believed the carbon dating lies that have been forced on us since grade school.

      Remember that all 3 major religions all believe in the Old Testament. To say that so many people all believe in made up stories is crazy. It is the oldest record of our earliest history…

      Science has failed the people. And damned many souls…

      Be excellent to each other.

      • John W.

        So then you support the Muslims who also believe that every little thing in their Koran is Gods word. Even where it is in opposition to the Christian bible. You problem is that you cannot handle the fact that humans are just an insignificant speck with no real control over their fate either in this life or any other.

        • Smokey

          Speaking for yourself, of course…

    19. This Texan Has Had Enough

      I liked it better in the good old days when science was science and not politically correct!

      • hammerhead

        Yea tex , or completely made up to control and tax a populace .

        • This Texan Has Had Enough

          hammerhead-How true! Global warming is a money redistribution scam. More likely we are headed to a mini Ice Age. Don’t you get tired of the constant government lies?

          • hammerhead

            Its all about Agenda 21 , my friend.
            Just look around , shutting down coal plants and smart meters .
            Walkable communities , bike paths and land taxes on rural residents to pay for it all.
            Common core and gun “reeducation” in schools.
            Restictions and laws that cliam the GOV owns rainwater and any body of water no matter how small.
            Food and “nutrition” requirements that amount to starvation.
            Lets not forget “right to farm” laws being violated or eliminated right done to personal gardens.
            And since i’m preachin to the choir , i wont even get into the whole “have a pantry and become a terrorist” thing .
            The list goes on and on.

            I ALWAYS refer people to a book on the subject that i have with me and hand out to anybody that will take one.

            living with Agenda 21 by Dr. H lawrence Zillmer
            Got NO stake in it, its a cheap book , but real good read. 50 pages , to the point.
            All of this denial about dinos and humans and creation acually ties in with it .
            Scarry shit.

          • Ugly

            Evolution is a scam too. Monies to be made to get rid of God….

      • WhoWuddaThunkIt

        Tex. The old saying, Seeing is Believing!! Talk is cheap and BS walks. Some people believe everything they read, Somebody wrote it down, and then they read it and believed it.

        • John W.

          Are you talking about the Bible? Biggest book for the dim witted ever.

    20. Snake

      If humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time, there would be a lot more evidence of it. A lot more. What about all the evidence stating dinosaurs lived when they did? Its all a conspiracy. Nobody has been telling me truth since I was born. Everything I grew up believing is a lie. Now, you wanna take away my dinosaurs too? WTF? Who’s side are you on?

      • sixpack

        Nobody’s trying to take away your dinosaurs, they’re just saying the may have been more familiar to humans than old science suggests, because they lived here along with us.

      • nosuchuser

        If dinosaurs and humans lived at the same time why don’t we see their butchered bones in the midden heaps? If we can figure out how to kill Mammoths with pointy sticks we could have killed dinosaurs….

        • Ugly

          Well with maybe 30,000 people on earth at that time, along with millions of dinosaurs, I am sure people were on the diet by accident. But then some caveman may have scored a Dino or two just for survival and not a meal. But then after Noah’s Flood, Dino’s gone and man began to slowly flourish and populate the planet….

    21. Socrates

      Great article Mac, thanks for sharing this with us!

      If/ when man ever awakens from his slumber and comes to the conclusion he has been lied to since day one, he may come to realize his full potential.

      There is a lot more to humankind including our past, present and future. Those who control you simply do not want you to figure this out…ever.

      The rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than many know.
      For starters do a search on Bucegi Mountains Romania 2003

      From there (if you research it further) you will discover that everything you know (well, almost) is a lie. Of course governments are terrified of people waking up…it means the end of governments!

    22. Sinner

      I know of an animal that eats it weight in food 2-3 times a day, heart beats over 300 beats a minute, flies nonstop for 24-28 hours across the Gulf of Mexico, and can hover like a helicopter….a “design” so precise logic dictates that there must be a “Designer”….A Hummingbird!

      Jesus Christ…historical proof that there is a God.

      • WhoWuddaThunkIt

        Or a Military Drone.

    23. Tex

      God allows science to advance at His pace.

      • Nora

        You can believe in God without believing that every word of the Bible is true. The Bible says that the earth is flat, that Jonah was swallowed by a whale’s where there was no oxygen to breathe and then popped out undigested 3 days later, that the entire earth was completely covered by salt water and then Noah’s son immediately started growing grapes in the soil that had been soaked in brine for at least 150 days, and that God created the fish and plants on the 3rd day, but didn’t create the sun until the 4th.

        Our galaxy is 100,000 light years across. If the universe was only created 6,000 years ago (or even 10,000 years ago) we would not be able to see the stars across the Milky Way — much less be able to see other galaxies.

        The Bible is fact mixed with the impressions of people who did not understand science. If God had tried to explain things to them that we take for granted, it would have been too foreign for them to understand or believe.

        • Egg

          Check out Dr Brown & Hydroplate Theory, scientific evidence of a global flood & much more.

      • Tex

        Science tells us this and that. We can measure the universe and discover how some things work. They tell us the universe started with the Big Bang, but cannot answer what caused the Big Bang, because He hasn’t revealed it to us yet. Everything happens in His time, not ours. (BTW, I used to teach Physics and Astronomy)

    24. Joe Joe

      When my son told me about his imaginary friend, I told him there were no such things.

      When he asked about mine, I didn’t have an answer for him.

    25. Anonymous

      yeah, I know some of these scientists are quacks, like that old guy (whats his name?) that says God doesn’t exist. (He’s widely acclaimed as some great scientist and yet doesn’t even realize the existence of our Maker).

      However, that doesn’t mean they are all ignorant.

      2009 story from the LATimes: (2009 story!!)

      Chu warned of water shortages plaguing the West and Upper Midwest and particularly dire consequences for California, his home state, the nation’s leading agricultural producer.

      In a worst case, Chu said, up to 90% of the Sierra snowpack could disappear, all but eliminating a natural storage system for water vital to agriculture.

      “I don’t think the American public has gripped in its gut what could happen,” he said. “We’re looking at a scenario where there’s no more agriculture in California.” And, he added, “I don’t actually see how they can keep their cities going” either.

      A pair of recent studies raise similar warnings. One, published in January in the journal Science, raised the specter of worldwide crop shortages as temperatures rise. Another, penned by UC Berkeley researchers last year, estimated California has about $2.5 trillion in real estate assets — including agriculture — endangered by warming.

    26. Anonymous

      Off the World News Desk:

      Satellites Reveal Shocking Groundwater Loss

      “SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Groundwater losses from the Colorado River basin appear massive enough to challenge long-term water supplies for the seven states and parts of Mexico that it serves, according to a new study released Thursday that used NASA satellites.

      Researchers from NASA and the University of California, Irvine say their study is the first to quantify how much groundwater people in the West are using during the region’s current drought.

      Stephanie Castle, the study’s lead author and a water resource specialist at the University of California, Irvine, called the extent of the groundwater depletion “shocking.”

      “We didn’t realize the magnitude of how much water we actually depleted” in the West, Castle said.

      Since 2004, researchers said, the Colorado River basin — the largest in the Southwest — has lost 53 million acre feet, or 17 trillion gallons, of water. That’s enough to supply more than 50 million households for a year, or nearly fill Lake Mead — the nation’s largest water reservoir — twice…”

      We have been saying for years that the Southwestern U.S. will become nearly uninhabitable because of water depletion. It’s just happening a Hell of a lot faster than anyone could foresee. If you own a house in the affected region, you would be wise to sell and move while there are still enough suckers out there to buy it.

      Then plant a garden, and forget the lawn entirely.- Wes

      • John W.

        There is evidence of a four hundred year drought. If the high pressure ridge forms off Alaska again this year then by this time next year the situation will be grim in California and especially Las Vegas. They better start figuring where they will put all those that have to move if there is no water. Might have to compete with Obamas new friends the untold millions of new citizens from Central America. Maybe you clowns should worry more about that than the nonsense of dinosaurs and men walking together.

      • Egg

        Apparently the pacific basin (under the ocean) is increasing in temperature, as well as the other bodies in our solar system (per nasa, based on visual evidence). We may not understand as much has some think we do.

        • sixpack

          Apparently they understand enough to wring more money out of people…

    27. Rock Etman

      “…the history of the Christian Bible is roughly 6,000 to 10,000 years …”

      Not all Christians believe that necessarily.

      The GAP THEORY (that there is a “gap” of time between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2, based on the interpretation that “.. the earth BECAME void”) allows for an indeterminate amount of time prior to the recorded history of man as found in the bible.

      To suggest a 6,000 to 10,000 year history of creation is just as much a theory as anything else, and the gap theory is just as valid as any other.

      Observational data seems to indicate a much longer period of history.

      As far as this individual being terminated, this reveals the extreme bias found in “so-called” science. Modern “science” is propaganda, driven by money, and based on personal agendas. True science, assured of its facts, welcomes alternate points of view, because truth is sharpened by exposure. Follow the facts and see where they lead, and adjust the narrative accordingly. That is called TRUTH.

      • John W.

        Your ignorance is truly awesome. I bet in a prior life you burned witches.

        • sixpack

          …you didn’t understand a word he said, did you?

      • guero

        “Science Delusion” is the current popular confidence in certain fixed assumptions – the exaltation of today’s science, not as a constantly changing workshop, but as an infallible oracle preaching a crude materialism, which has gradually hardened into an anti-Christian faith, an ideology rather than a scientific principle. Research conventions smooth out data, hide variations by averaging many results, and accept only results that fit “eternal laws”.

        This is alien to modern physics.
        The government has disastrously compromised and redirected science research, and it continues under Obama.
        – Climatologists fed us lies, engaged in scientific & academic fraud, and committed criminal acts.
        – “It’d be nice to see the scientific establishment lose some of its prestige and power…Above all, it’d be nice to have a real spirit of self-criticism penetrate the sciences.”

    28. Bob from NC

      Several years ago, a thigh bone from a juvenile T-Rex was unearthed in Utah. The bone made its way to North Carolina State University. The white lab coat crowd said they KNEW the bone was 35 million years old. What they couldn’t explain was that the bone was not fully fossilized and that it contained red blood cells. It is impossible for a 35 million year old bone to contain red blood cells. But they KNOW that the bone is 35 million years old. Yeah, right (lol)!

      We live in a matrix with manufactured science and history to keep the sheep under control. If you have the time, research the giant humans of North America. Seems like the Smithsonian has a way of disappearing the evidence, but a search of local newspaper articles would confirm their existence.

      • Walt Kowalski

        Don’t confuse them with facts, their minds are made up.

        • WhoWuddaThunkIt

          If God is so great, why is the Planet so F-up’d? If God was real we would all be living in Utiopia Shangrila!!

          • Indy Colts


            The planet is “F-ed up” as you put it, because GOD gave us free will. He didn’t want robots that praise him. This life is a test to qualify those for the paradise he has prepared.

            I can see in you posts you are full of anger and I hope for your sake you seek the knowledge that frustrates your soul. Living alone with anger in your heart trying to validate your own sinful thoughts does nothing to help others and only creates more hatred.

            Confessing your sin is the first step because we are all sinners.

      • Anonymous

        The Religion museum of artifacts is the size of a phone booth. You walk in and God tells you its all true. Now drop your $5 Bucks in the slot and exit left.

        • WhoWuddaThunkIt

          Follow up to the $5. Its also tax deductible!!

          • Indy Colts

            Ever heard of the “Creation Museum” Not a phone booth and nationly noticed as AWESOME!

    29. hammerhead

      Off Topic comment ;
      I am officially sick of crop dusters .
      Over it , done .

      • WhoWuddaThunkIt

        Funny, there has never again been anybody to walk on water, Part the sea, make a staff into a snake. turn water into wine, feed thousands with a loaf of bread, put all the animals on one boat. Nope, No Proof, No you tube video showing any proof, nothing, not a single shred of any evidence what so ever. They can find thousands of fossils of million year old dinosaurs and hundreds of ancient cultures all over the globe, but not one bible story fact or any piece of evidence in the last 2 thousand years, not even one shred of factual matter to prove any of it. Nothing. So do you believers start to get the feeling you all have been duped?

        • John W.

          Like the Muslims they have and will kill to support their beliefs. Just like the global warming fanatics.

        • RickInOregon

          I’m not much of a Christian, I’ve never read the bible in it’s entirety, I don’t belong to any denomination, I don’t remember the last time I was in a church. I do respect those that do believe and I will not ridicule them. I myself find spirituality and divinity in nature.

          I find it intriguing that every culture on this planet, no matter how isolated has a belief system. There’s something engrained in the human spirit that has a need for a higher power and a willingness to yield to it. Those that deny that engrained aspect of humanity are at odds with one of the major aspect of humanity, one that separates us from lower animals. There’s not another creature on this planet that demonstrates a spiritual belief.

          To think that you are more evolved by denying your humanity, demonstrates that you are devolving into a lower species.

          • Anonymous

            The funny thing is, if you were born in the Middle East you would have full faith in the Koran, and would hate Christians. Just goes to show you how religion dupes the ignorant as they are a product of their ignorant upbringing and brain washing.

    30. Be informed

      I know I am going to get nailed on this but I have my own ideas on this. First the dinosaur was left over from millions of years ago and a few of these survived until several thousand years ago. There are many species of animals that lived tens of millions of years ago, the crocodile for one. If the DNA testing actually showed that this was a dinosaur and soft tissue, then there are other explanations. One is a type of perfect preserving of tissue such as bugs in amber. Of course it could be in error.

      The problem I have always had with the planet not being billions of years old is geology and radioactive dating. Forget carbon dating, but certain isotopes decay at a very predictable rate. This is how they are able to make the atomic clock so accurate. Live tissue decay is another story with carbon, but radioactive decay is another story. Continental drift shows all too well that the plates were not moving at super rates of speed. IF they were there would be catastrophic evidence of this. It took hundreds of millions of years for the plates to get the way they are today.

      What has bothered me also is why with all the other fossils have there not been this discovery of soft tissue? We had to take paleontology in college and along with stratigraphy live forms are deposited along rock masses, sedimentry, in which they were not rapidly dumped there but took eons. This is just the way physical geology works.

      The process in which fossil fuels have become energy take much, much longer than a few thousand years. Plant and animal material requires heat and pressure to literally simmer for millions or years or longer. Landscapes also don’t change that rapidly from what you would see hundreds of millions of years ago to now. The type of plant life found in these fossils should still be around, as plants thrive much longer than anything. Find some seeds that still are alive enough to grow some of these plants hundreds of millions of years ago that are part of coal and other fossil makings, then there is a case.

      Fossils to be preserved also must have the right conditions and why there are not bones from animals, dinosaur including are not all over the place.

      I can’t stand liberals that shove their idealogy down people’s throats, but when you have science to back up geology this is where I have to say let’s look at the raw numbers behind all this. I have heard of human footprints in the same sandstone as a dinosaur indicating the two walked together. Someone would say this proves that Earth humans walked with dinosaurs. I say Earth humans, not someone visiting this planet. It could also indicate humans were around a lot longer than a few thousand years and had lived here long ago.

      All I am saying that everyone should keep an open mind, as I am not saying that it is impossible that God created this planet like people believe. Through actually being in the field throughout college there are magnitudes more evidence that the planet is billions of years old. As my GreatGrandmother said, that was an extrmely devout Christian, God’s days should be judged in eons and not literally as 24 hour days. That the planet is that old and so what? Does that destroy one’s faith in God based on the defintion of time and dating?

      Explanations to why a rare find like this comes along can be quoted from Shakespere that there are more things in heaven and Earth that man could ever dream of. The bizarre explanation may apply here.

      • hammerhead

        BI we know god created all , the how is not important.
        We are curious and try to understand.
        dont matter one bit.
        In these times it is most important to remember that you are a FREE MAN WALKIN and no silly government or dictator can change that.
        look at authoritarian regimes , they come and go , but a FREE MAN is always here .
        As long as nobody forgets what freedom is , the true of the universe will one day be reveiled to us.
        Governments seek to suppress the true to keep us all in chains .
        So if allowing us to believe that dinos walked with man is a problem for human suppression , then THAT will have to be a lie .
        Its always about control , aint it?

      • That Would Be Right

        Whenever we have a conundrum such as this I go for the obvious answer!
        We are both right. The earth can be millions of years old AND only 7-10 thousand years old in its current form.
        Or latest incarnation as we see it. Think of a heap of billion year old carbon dated sand spread out. If in one Hour I terra transform the sand into a mountain. How old is the Mountain?? Carbon dating says a Billion years but we know I just made it an 1 Hour ago.
        The earth at regular intervals of 7-15 thousand years undergoes a complete change due to ???? (insert your Theory) And in the twinkling of an eye behold a new earth is born……and on we go again.
        Talk of an ice age is the error of seeing evidence of ice presence throughout the world as just that, a worldwide coverage of ice…..not so. Just that the poles of this earth have at different times been all over the globe. 7-15 thousand years here then 7-15 thousand years there. We are overdue for the next exciting instalment

      • Ugly


        You can make biodiesel in a matter a minutes using mustard seed and heat. It literally flows through. Also, you can take succulent plants and put them in a plastic trash bag and in heat and in days you have hydro-oils at the bottom of the bag.

    31. WARFACE

      A good friend of mines grandfather was a dinosaur digger for the Museum of Natural History in Chicago and he took us for a behind the scenes tour of the museum and he told us they find soft tissue sometimes. He even went as far as to comment on how bad it smelled when it was found. I remember the hair on the back of my neck standing up when he told us. Absolutely true story but sadly the grandfather has passed away.

    32. thefulishbastid

      Mac, come on man. Stick to what you know. Bullshit like this will get you ripped outta my RSS feeds for real.


      So were ADAM and EVE here first or was the CAVEMAN ?

      • slicker

        Caveman, per reading Bible. Ae were ones who desired godhood.

    34. Grafique

      The earth is about 6000 years old. Evolution is a lie from Satan which he told through liberals.

      • John W.

        And man made global warming is real. Great minds think alike.

      • passinwiththewind

        Evolution is a lie, I agree 100%.

        The earth is millions of years old. Fact.

        • That Would Be Right

          Creationism first
          Evolution (selective breeding)

          Again both are right…..

          Stop trying to prove one over the other and you will be in agreement and have peace in your life.

      • Grafique

        ”We are not going to tolerate your religion in this department…”

        Apparently that’s true for this website also.

    35. Barn Cat

      That’s absolute nonsense. No scientist can prove something that isn’t true. Dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago. The earth is billions of years old.

      I’m a born again Christian. I know that God designed and created every living thing. I also know that the earth is very old.

      The young earth creationists keep trying to convince people that there’s a disagreement among scientists regarding the age of the earth but no such disagreement exists. There’s plenty of evidence of an old earth. Such as annual ice layers going back 100,000 years in Antarctica, carbon dating, continental drift, and so forth.

      Yes, I know what creation account in Genesis says. It wasn’t written to be a scientific document. Each creation day talks about opposites: heavens and the earth, night and day, water and dry ground, sun and moon, etc. If you take the creation account literally then you would have to conclude that the earth existed before the sun and that just isn’t possible.

      • Feisty Old Broad

        NOT POSSIBLE within YOUR thought processes, perhaps. FAITH is believing in that which cannot be Proven….like the air we all breathe….cannot see or taste it, but we know when it is NOT available….such is Faith…If GOD takes OUR protection away due to the “new” United States, then WE ALL will pay the price….

        • slicker

          Very interesting. Support for captured planet. Hmmm.

        • slicker

          Very interesting. Support for captured planet. Hmmm.

      • John W.

        Many will not admit it but their faith is not really strong otherwise why would they care that the earth is billions of years old. An all powerful God has all the time in the Universe.

    36. Barn Cat

      I also hate the young earth nonsense because it sounds so stupid. It would make it hard for anyone with critical thinking skills to become a Christian.

      • John W.

        The Creation Science Institute is located here in River City mainly Santee ca. They rally reach to come up with some of the things they try to push as fact. Just what dies it matter if humans arrived late to the game. That is in fact what the bible states. That mankind was created last. Oh ye of little faith.

      • Satori

        couple of great comments by the Cat

      • Sinner

        Yet you believe that non-believing Jews are some how God’s “Chosen People” and Poof!, we’re all going to “Fly Away” when the Rapture happens, talk about nonsense!

        Dispensational (Hillbilly) theology makes Christians look stupid.

      • Jimb

        There was a giant explosion from nothing and the universe was born. That is so much more believable.

    37. aljamo

      Interesting article for sure. One thing that is obvious to me is that most everything we grew up learning is all lies. I’m not attacking a belief in God because common sense tells me that likelihood is real. The rest of history is managed to benefit the few at the expense of the many.

    38. Feisty Old Broad

      Regardless of what you personally Believe….the Hard Facts are that Everyone needs to Know HOW to survive when and if the need arises….be simple, be aware, be able to take care of yourself (and others) Without ANY utilities….KNOW how to make drinkable water, how to dry that what you hunt, shoot or snare, know which wild vegetation that you can safely eat, know where you may bug out to if you cannot stay within the safety of your home….if/when I must leave, I will give all to those of my friends of a like mind, and will “alter” what I leave for the “others”……
      “Faith” can, indeed, move Mountains…..

      • John W.

        Obviously since they are no longer here the dinosaurs did not pay attention. They did however rule the earth for over seventy million years something that pipsqueak humans have little chance of matching.

    39. Satori

      soft tissue supposedly found here too
      but 67 million years old

      Molecular analysis supports controversial claim for dinosaur cells

      New evidence backs up claim of dinosaur soft tissue find

      Oldest Dinosaur Protein Found — Blood Vessels, More

      • Socrates

        Actually, they have found Wooly Mammoths in Siberia that still have ‘flowing’ blood. Not as in alive, but blood that can still flow through the animals veins.

        But that’s not the weird part. 😉

        Several of the Mammoths were found in the permafrost standing or upright, and some still had non-decayed grasses, buttercups and other things they ate in their mouths and stomachs. That means they were ‘flash frozen’
        (like with liquid nitrogen). Birds Eye Corp did a study on the mass of the animals and said it would take at least 150 degrees below zero to quick freeze animals of that size.

        Now everyone knows that live buttercups, grasses and other vegetation is not going to be alive at 150 degrees below zero…neither is anything else. This most likely means Siberia was a temperate climate at the time and a catastrophic temperature shift occurred, freezing them in place and time.

        Lot’s of smart people have tried to explain it, but none have solved the riddle yet.

        In summary: There are multitudes of questions to which we just don’t have answers.

        • Old Guy

          Yep and the logical explaniation for the flash frozen mammoth is a complete reversal pole shift. and at this very moment the magnetic poles are shifting. and the pole shift has increased from inches per year to miles per year.

          • That Would Be Right

            Pole reversal wouldn’t explain the lush grass and woolly mammoth with buttercup/daisies in its mouth. The area wasn’t a waste land of ice moments before.

            A relocation of the poles would do this and the sudden arrival of the North or South pole over….lets say Florida. Would result in some snap frozen surprises for future archaeologists.

            A new earth is created/born every 7-15 thousand years.

    40. Satori

      a VERY interesting post from Mac’s “competition”

      Ebola Biological Warfare – A Pandemic Nightmare…re/#more-36355

      imagine suicide bombers not carrying explosives
      but EBOLA instead

      Ebola outbreak in the U.S.=PANIC

    41. shithawk

      “Grounbreaking”? Nice spelling. Oh, and the sheeple are the bible followers. If this man had a legitimate scientific find he would have been heralded. The man is a quack and was thus dealt with a one does with quacks…they get fired.

    42. rednek101

      BS…..Sasquatch, Yeti, Griffin, Unicorns, Mermaids and now dinosaurs. BS. That they only fired his #&% without burning him at the stake is a travesty.

      • Archivist

        Unicorn means “one horn.” As in the one-horned rhinoceros.

        So unicorns still walk the earth.

      • rednek101

        😉 So much negativity….So lets add Santa Clause, the Tooth Fairy, vampires, werewolves. Oh yeah and the Chupacabra. People seem to hate reality. Ain’t no such thing as modern dinosaurs.

        • Jimb

          Uh, crocodiles anyone?

    43. KY Mom

      GOP Senator: Obama To ‘Effectively End Immigration Enforcement’

      “The Obama administration is preparing to effectively “nullify” the immigration laws of the United States through an executive action, says one Republican senator.

      As Time reported Thursday, President Obama appears prepared to provide millions of illegal immigrants living in the U.S. work authorization via executive orders.”

      • KY Mom

        The executive order being worked on is said to provide “unilateral grant of work authorization to millions of illegals.”

        Drudge Report

    44. Satori

      the “underwear bomber” failed
      because he shit on himself ???

      Underwear bomber plot failed because he ‘wore same pants for two weeks’…two-weeks.html

      personal hygiene is a MUST !

    45. eppe

      A second joke for everyone, please enjoy….

      There is a dangerous virus being passed around electronically, orally, and
      by hand. This virus is called Worm Overload Recreational Killer (WORK). If
      you receive WORK from any of your colleagues, your boss, or anyone else
      via any means DO NOT TOUCH IT. This virus will wipe out your private life

      If you should come into contact with WORK, put your jacket on and take two
      good friends to the nearest grocery store. Purchase the antidote known as
      Work Isolating Neutralizer Extract (WINE) or Bothersome Employer
      Elimination Rebooter (BEER). Take the antidote repeatedly until WORK has
      been completely eliminated from your system.

    46. JR

      Welcome, Dr. Armitage, to the anti-science Cult of the Global Warmers, who also refuse to accept any scientific fact (assuming this info is verified by peers).

    47. Burt Gummer

      Carbon Dating? Isn’t that the black dating site where Obama met Moochelle?

    48. eppe

      SINCE WE ARE ON THE SUBJECT OF RELIGION, here is one I may have posted before, but since we seem to have so many new posters here, they need to see this… And please do not judge me, GOD said “Judge not, and you will not be judged”

      Waking Up for Church
      One Sunday morning, a mother went in to wake her son and tell him it was
      time to get ready for church, to which he replied, “I’m not going.”
      “Why not?” she asked.
      I’ll give you two good reasons,” he said. “One, they don’t like me, and
      I don’t like them.”
      His mother replied, “I’ll give YOU two good reasons why YOU SHOULD go to
      church. (1) You’re 59 years old, and (2) you’re the pastor!”

      The Picnic
      A Jewish Rabbi and a Catholic Priest met at the town’s annual 4th of July picnic. Old friends, they began their usual banter.
      “This baked ham is really delicious,” the priest teased the rabbi.
      “You really ought to try it. I know it’s against your religion, but I can’t
      understand why such a wonderful food should be forbidden! You don’t know
      what you’re missing. You just haven’t lived until you’ve tried Mrs. Hall’s
      prized Virginia Baked Ham. Tell me, Rabbi, when are you going to break down and try it?”
      The rabbi looked at the priest with a big grin, and said, “At your wedding.”
      The USHER
      An elderly woman walked into the local country church. The friendly usher greeted her at the door and helped her up the flight of steps.
      “Where would you like to sit?” he asked politely.
      “The front row please,” she answered.
      “You really don’t want to do that,” the usher said. “The pastor is really boring.”
      “Do you happen to know who I am?” the woman inquired.
      “No.” he said.
      “I’m the pastor’s mother,” she replied indignantly.
      “Do you know who I am?” he asked.
      “No.” she said.
      “Good,” he answered.
      Show and Tell
      A kindergarten teacher gave her class a “show and tell” assignment.
      Each student was instructed to bring in an object to share with the class that
      represented their religion.
      The first student got up in front of the class and said, “My name is Benjamin and I am Jewish and this is a Star of David.”
      The second student got up in front of the class and said, “! My name is Mary. I’m a Catholic and this is a Rosary.”
      The third student got in up front of the class and said, “My name is Tommy. I am Methodist, and this is a casserole.”

      The Best Way To Pray
      A priest, a minister and a guru sat discussing the best positions for prayer, while a telephone repairman worked nearby.
      “Kneeling is definitely the best way to pray,” the priest said.
      “No,” said the minister. “I get the best results standing with my hands outstretched to Heaven.”
      “You’re both wrong,” the guru said. “The most effective prayer position is lying down on the floor.”
      The repairman could contain himself no longer. “Hey, fellas,” he interrupted. “The best prayin’ I ever did was when I was hangin’ upside down from a telephone pole.”
      Goat for Dinner
      The young couple invited their elderly pastor for Sunday dinner. While they were in the kitchen preparing the meal, the minister asked their son what they were having.
      “Goat,” the little boy replied.
      “Goat?” replied the startled man of the cloth, “Are you sure about that?”
      “Yep,” said the youngster. “I heard Dad say to Mom, Today is just as good as any to have the old goat for dinner.” Holy Humor

      Please God forgive me, and the pygimes in New Guinea….

      • passinwiththewind

        Ok eppe,

        Her you go. i can’t help myself.

        A very sweet, and attractive elderly woman was sitting in the pew in front of me one Sunday.

        When we were all asked to stand and sing the final hymn of the service, the nice lady stood up and had a massive wedgy in which her dress left nothing to the imagination as to the size and shape of her derriere.

        Fearful that she might walk out in that fashion and be embarrassed when someone pointed it out; I took it upon myself to relief her of potential embarrassment by gently tugging at the garment to release it’s grip by her protruding cheeks.

        To my surprise she immediately whirled and slapped the piss out of me, and then quickly returned to singing.
        As my face was on fire and quite aggitated, i quickly turned my hand sideways and shoved the whole thing right back into her butt cleavage where it was previously….

        and quickly ducked.

        • eppe

          Good one, and a smart move….

    49. Satori

      You’re Much More Likely to Be Killed By Brain-Eating Parasites, Texting While Driving, Toddlers, Lightning, Falling Out of Bed, Alcoholism, Food Poisoning, a Financial Crash, Obesity, Medical Errors or “Autoerotic Asphyxiation” than by Terrorists

      maybe all the Barney Fife wanna be’s from HoMElAnD SEkuRitEe
      would be better off spending their time and that 100 billion dollars running around to every McDonads’s and grabbing cheese burgers out of every fat person’s mouth ?

      just a suggestion

    50. The Old Coach

      What relevance does this story have to prepping, Mac?

      • Socrates

        Allow me to elaborate on that question.
        (if I may be so bold Mac)

        This site has a moniker or tagline that reads:
        “When it hits the fan, don’t say we didn’t warn you.”

        Along that line- When world populace finally wakes up from their nap, and figures out they have been categorically lied to about everything since the dawn of time…TS *will* def be hitting fan.

        I’d say this article is spot on in that respect. 😉

        • The Old Coach

          IF this story has even a grain of truth in it, (I can’t find any reference to Mark Armitage except on a couple of “creationist” web sites), this sure sounds to me like this guy tried the “Global Warmist” strategy of making his conclusions fit his religion. That’s not science, in any sense of the term. Many, many great scientists have been religious men; Newton, Galileo and Einstein are names a layman will recognize. But these religious men, and thousands upon thousands like them, for hundreds of years, have not subsumed their findings to some Papal bull published in ignorance of visible, provable fact.

          And this claim fails the smell test at a thousand yards. Like the “cold fusion” fraud and the Piltdown Man.

          • The Old Coach

            Sorry for the globall bold – I missed a character in the HTML.

        • NetRanger

          Will never happen! The establishment will cut the power to the fan and say the S is cotton candy an everyone will believe them!

          • VRF

            And, if you dont believe them
            they will come at night to kill you in your sleep , or discredit everything you ever said ..and everything you own you had for the purpose of being a terrorist to the establishment

            oh and exploit you as a racist, or a child molester or some other sick thing they can dream up to hang on your corpse

    51. The Lone Ranger

      “Your Honor, the Lone Ranger for the Plaintiff– whom as you all know is the fired University Professor.

      “Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, I will make three brief concise points.

      “One, people like Teilhard de Chardin and many others have demonstrated that, in fact, science and religion ARE compatible. I could give many examples, but I would digress from what would become a university lecture.

      “Two, THIS tenured professor was fired because he was the victim of scapegoating! The people who fired him could not HANDLE the TRUTH!

      “So instead of REVISING their map of reality, they projected ON to this man their OWN unwillingness and inability to integrate the findings of science– which as you know IS the search for TRUTH!

      “But, ladies and gentlemen, I call your attention to this THIRD, final, and yet MOST IMPORTANT point: this esteemed scientist was fired because THIS case is all about CONTROL!

      “The Warren Commission’s Report was all ABOUT control because the evidence shows that the so-called findings of the Warren Report CONTRADICT the Physics or Science of what REALLY happened that day in Dallas.

      “Yet our CHILDREN are taught a LIE in every one of their American history books in every school district in America. And all those witnesses to the Assassination, they suddenly lost their lives within 24-months of November 22, 1963.

      “Why, ladies and gentlemen?

      “Because it is all about CONTROL!

      “When a tenured of professor of Physics demonstrated that jet fuel cannot burn down steel and DARED to question what occurred on 9/11, guess what happened?

      “HE, too, was fired!

      Now WHY is that, my fellow people?

      Because it is ALL about CONTROL!

      “The current president of the United States HIMSELF boldly, brazenly, and REPEATEDLY said that under Obamacare you can KEEP your Doctor.

      “But guess what, ladies and gentlemen?

      “The OPPOSITE is true!

      “Now why is THAT, ladies and gentlemen?

      “Because it is all about CONTROL!

      “And CONTROL is just ONE weapon of SATAN, who is working so hard to bring DOWN this great country of ours, through LIES, through SCAPEGOATING, through FIRINGS!

      “Ladies and gentlemen of this jury, and of America, it’s TIME we took CONTROL of OUR country BACK!

      “BACK from the LIARS who just can’t HANDLE the truth so they fire tenured professors whose integrity is unimpeachable!

      “BACK from the elected leaders of these great 50 States who LIE to us INCESSANTLY!

      “BACK from those who would DARE to push GUN CONFISCATION on America!


      “Because it is all about CONTROL!

      “Have we ALREADY forgotten that HITLER was all about control when HE confiscated guns?

      “Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, ONLY YOU can DENY the controllers in our world– some of whom are in academia– the POWER to control and DESTROY this great country, AND the outstanding reputation of this Tenured University professor.

      “Let’s put the CONTROLLERS on NOTICE, ladies and gentlemen:

      *When you fire good people who are doing honest work, YOU will be denied!

      *When YOU lie to the American people about health care, YOU will be IMPEACHED!

      *When you make ANY attempt to confiscate legally held firearms, you WILL be RESISTED, as will ALL Tyranny!

      “You see, ladies and gentlemen, today they FIRE the tenured professors and scientists, tomorrow they ARREST them.

      “And the next day they will come for your Rabbi, your Pastor, your MInister, your Priest. WHY? Because ANYONE who preaches the truth must be CONTROLLED!

      “The day after that they will come for your GUNS! Why? Because without them you cannot protect yourself and your families from the TYRANNY that is INFESTING our country.

      “But you can NOW!

      “Send a CLEAR and UNambiguous message by finding for the plaintiff in his suit against the Controllers.

      “Because when you stand up today and fire THAT shot, it WILL be heard around the world! So SEND these controllers BACK to the hell from which they came! STAND up for the truth because when you do you stand up for yourself and EVERY American! Show this fired professor that we Americans just are NOT going to TAKE IT ANYMORE! Ladies and gentlemen, the ONLY way to SHAME the devil is to TELL the truth LOUD AND CLEAR! And when you do, ladies and gentlemen, your voice will ROAR across this great country and like cockroaches exposed to the light, the controllers and evil doers will FLEE and SCATTER back UNDER the rocks from which they crawled! So STAND UP for yourselves, ladies and gentlemen, STAND UP for your neighbors such as this professor, and STAND UP FOR AMERICA!

      “Thank you. God bless you, and God bless America.

      – the Lone Ranger

      “Those that make peaceful revolution IMPOSSIBLE make VIOLENT revolution INEVITABLE!”
      – President Kennedy

      “The truth will set you free.” – Christ

      • The Old Coach

        If I were on that jury, I’d have a hard time keeping a straight face. And I’d wonder how many martinis he had for lunch, and why didn’t he bring back a few in a Thermos for us.

    52. Ray

      OMG you people are take stupid to a whole new level. The scientific community had been finding soft organic “tissue” for decades on dinosaur remains , Hell they have even extracted DNA-NO COVERUPS.NO “firings” The only thing hidden here is the agenda behind this made up mega church BS “story”. You have the right to believe that people “walked with dinosaurs ” , that the earth is flat and six thousand years old or that some guy in Judea 2020 years ago got tortured to death then turned into god. You just don’t have the right to force that superstition on me.

      • The Old Coach

        As I pointed out above, there is NO independent corroboration of this story. The ONLY references on the Web come from a “creationist” site. Like the ZOG advocates who spread their dirty litter SHTF, they make up a fable, post it on their own web site, then point to it as “truth” because it was on their web site.

      • NetRanger

        If you will just stop telling lies about your science and the facts maybe we can all just get along. Nobody will be forced to go to church if we find the earth is 5000 years old but it sure would put a cramp in ther style of insults you hurl.

      • Jimb

        Yet you have the right to force your superstitions on Christians, makes sense.

    53. NLT

      Sarah Palin thinks the world is 5000 years old. People use science to refute science to bolster their views. Comments on this article argue the fact this somehow shows the bible is true. The fact is this proves nothing other than people and Dinos lived at the same time. Doesn’t prove the origin of life one way or another.

      • The Old Coach

        Sarah Palin would ROTFLHAO at that statement.

    54. EastTenn

      Actually, this is not the first time soft tissue has been found. Trex bone with red blood cells have also been found. Even under perfect condtions, protein should not last over 1 million years before breaking down. If you would like to read more on some very intersting finds and research related to this subject, go to Personally, I do not know how old the earth is, I just know and trust the Creator, not His creation.

    55. Grounbreaking

      Come on! It’s the first word! Idiots.

    56. Kulafarmer

      Mac, how do i get rid of these irritating ads that follow me on my Iphone when im reading comments on this site, just freakin irritating, google adds, google sucks!

      • WhoWuddaThunkIt

        Kula, Yes Mac, No kidding, it covers up the comments. They are like floating adds, that follow you. I thought maybe my phone was hacked. Google adds for beds, etc.

      • CrabbeNebulae


        Turn off javascript.

      • admin

        We were trying something new 🙂

        Apparently it doesn’t work so well — we’ll remove it shortly.

        thanks for the feedback!


        • Kulafarmer

          Thank you much Mac,,,
          Like WWTI i thought i had a hitch hiker on my phone, i honestly rarely pay attention to adds, like EVERYONE i know view them as just a nuisance,
          If, i want to buy something Ill get it from somewhere i already know about or will search it myself.

    57. SmokinOkie

      ***No actual words were harmed in the production of this comment***
      **(No actual words were harmed in the production of this disclaimer either)**

      We were out at the farm the other day, digging a new well. Purely by chance, we unearthed the fossilized femur of a large cat. Next to the bone was the float valve to a one-barrel carburetor from a 1938 Hudson. And wrapped around the valve was a battered plastic straw with a bit of green fruit peeling in it.
      Proof positive that mountain lions once roamed the plains of Oklahoma. And, they died off while trying to get to California during the dust bowl. And, they stopped at the Sonic for a limeade on the way. See? Science and history go hand in hand.
      What still puzzles me though… I always thought felines drove Studebakers.

      • eppe

        Excellent Smokin….

    58. PO'd Patriot

      -“but those that seek my soul,to destroy it, shall go into the lower parts of the earth”.
      -“They shall fall by the sword: they shall be a portion for foxes”.
      -“But the king shall rejoice in God; every one that sweareth by him shall glory: but the mouth of them that speak lies shall be stopped.”
      Psalm 63,vs-9,10,& 11.

    59. Professor Alacard

      No, they didn’t!

    60. NetRanger

      Ive been a young earther for about ten years. …ever since i found a way to cut through the lies. The only truth you need to know is that government and pseudo government (orgs that pretend to be education, science and religion) have a vested interest in telling lies about EVERYTHING.

      This incident proves it. The establishment wants you ignorant of your origins and your potential.

    61. VRF

      what is stopping humans (Russian’s) from boring any deeper than 40,230 ft?

      no matter how they tried , no matter how many years of trying ..never any deeper

      also while this project was going on , many things we thought we knew about the earth , were proved out to be different than what the “scientists said it should be

      and im also sure there were healthy lies told while this was going on, and more than likely things covered up

      believe what you want about history , the written word , rumors and stories

      seeing is believing but feeling is the gods truth

      • VRF

        oh and BTW..the winners get to write history..any way they want to

    62. VRF

      I wonder if a cave man / human of that time , after he killed a dyno said it tasted like chicken ?

    63. csaaphill

      Several issues with this story, not that I disagree with it but there are.
      1. This has been found once before on a different type of Dinasaur bone. Some lady scientist found live tissue in I think a tyranasaurus or brontasaurus. At any rate a Dinasaur bone that supposedly went extinct 65 million years ago had live tissue so this is at least the second time.
      2. Mainstream christinity is wrong with the 6k year theory, and no I am not mixing evilution with Creationism just read the first lines of the bible and you will see.
      Taking it fundamentally and not saying they lied or manipulated the writing, or exagerated the ages the bible itself tells us a time span of at least 7k years had to pass from Adam down to Noah. Adam lived 900 years and add up the first 7 generations their ages at death it’s 7100 years or so. So much happened during those first years from Adam down to Noah there is not enough time for them to have lived and died and not gotten swept away in the flood. Even Noah live some 8-900 years so still several thousand years had to pass from the flood down to Abram/Abraham.
      3.Science always wants to explain how similarities between Egypt and the aztecs and Puruvians could of happened, but since they say we didn’t exist or didn’t have much life before the breaking apart the continents they never make that destinction.
      I do using my belief in the bible I do. We had Pangea and since we were created, and not evolved Trade and movement back and forth accrossed the Continent was the norm, and not having to be seafareres. Plus the bible talks about giants why could they not have been the ones to make the great pyrimids?
      I’ve read the bible all the way through, and wasn’t until hearing something about it did I realise that it did say Giants. I read over that part, and never really though much on it until then. So I think Mainstream christianity has done the same with how long we’ve been here.
      Also One day is but a thousand years with God and a thousand years is but one day here is not a wrong statement or wrong to use that in saying that Gods one day was or could of been a thousand years.
      For one I’ve seen on a site trying to explain how were wrong on using that passage to say why a day of creation cold of been 1000 years. For one the second part of that statement is only stating the same thing backwards. SO there you go proof that earth is older than what they say but still younger than what science says.
      So yes I fully believe we lived with dinasaurs at one time, and quite possibly the T rex was not as hostile as it’s made out to be.
      I beleive we lived during pangea time and that is why you have pyramids in egypt and in Mexico. I beleive Giant men roamed the earth before the Flood and some still do now just not as tall as then but still.
      This kind of thingneeds to be made completly public like on NBC nightly news. It needs to be pushed and pushed hard.
      One thing too looking for something to happen at the end of time is wrong were already living in it.
      Read the Last days series by Joseph Cortez and you will have your eyes opened!

    64. PA farmer

      SOS, kula I’m having the same problem with the Google ads I cant expand my screen or give thumbs..If you go to the right top of add double click it will take you too Google’s add site. They want you to open a Account to maybe stop it, I havent done it yet I’m not Computer savvy I dont like to do things I’m not sure about. I will be watching this reply to see if you or anybody know how to fix this nightmare!!!

      • Grafique

        I have the same issue when I use my iPad.

        Mac, your regulars need you to fix this problem!

    65. Be informed

      Another precursor earthquake east of the South Sandwich Islands. This one along with the past 3 point heavily to Japan and Taiwan. By August 10 there is a high probability of a major earthquake in one of both of these locations. Other areas that bear a good chance of a 6.5+ are:

      -Paupa New Guinea to Vanuatu and Santa Cruz Islands
      -Samoa and Tonga
      -Fiji arc to Kermadec Islands and North Island New Zealand
      -Mexico and all Central America
      Ecuador, Columbia, Peru, Argentina, Southern Bolivia to Northern Chile
      -Kuril Islands to northeastern Russia
      -Afghanistan to east Iran and north Pakistan
      -Alaska to Vancouver Island

      Moderate chance:
      -Northern California
      -Mid Atlantic Ridge
      -Hawaii, only because the late November 1975 seven point five followed 18 days later after the earthquake on the exact same spot on the Carlsberg Ridge that hit a couple of days ago.

      I tried to pinpoint areas more with this rather than just giving a large arc. Again, Japan and Taiwan have had many major earthquakes within 15 days after these past 4 precursor earthquakes have hit in the past. Anymore precursor earthquakes could change the locations slightly.

      • Socrates

        Thanks for the updates…always good to know. 🙂

        Speaking of updates, what did you think of these:

        2014 Update of the United States National Seismic Hazard Maps

        h t tp://

        • Be informed

          @ Socrates and VRF. I have always said whereever there are mountains or have been maountains there lies the potential for a substantial earthquake. This new hazard map kind of reflects this. While a 6.5 doesn’t seem like much, they can kill in high numbers to poorly contructed buildings. The Italy earthquake was only 6.3 and killed about 300 people a few years ago. A 6.5 on the New Madrid fault because of the very dense rock below would be like a 7.5 or maybe even a 7.6 on softer rock. The buildings around the New Madrid would be similar to Long Beach 1933, which was a 6.3 on the Newport Inglewood thrust fault that is a 90 degree thrust fault.

          There was just a 5.1 many miles to the west on the southern Mid Atlantic Ridge with no recorded earthquakes in this area 4.5+ or higher. This shows me the South American plate is on the move and like a few months ago, this probably indicates a good size earthquake on the Nazca, Cocos, and or Caribbean plate. I have looked at the angle of movement and I would say the Leeward Islands and Venezeula are now in the danger zone. That 8.2 in Chile a few months ago followed activity on the South American plate away from the plate boundaries. I think this is a possible danger and will be more sure of this if and when there are more precursor earthquakes.

      • VRF

        Thanks BI
        a 6.5 in Peru wouldnt be much , well according to my wife .. she has no fear of anything of that size ..she said, been there done that “no big deal” in her mind and her experience

        my reply to her was..Its all about location where it hits and who’s affected ..she agreed but said 7 and above is cause to worry, especially if it hit in a very populated area such as Lima

        • Old Guy

          yep after that first child a 6.5 is no big deal kinda like a pencil in a mine shaft.

    66. Trailer Park Investor

      Just the facts Mam.
      Apparently if you have info that does not fit their paradigm they fire you or shoot you, or you have an accident and fall off a 33 story building.

    67. VRF

      ht tp://

      Mass Extinction on the horizon?

      even without the help of our government handy

    68. Poon Tang

      Uh Oh. Big trouble. Ukrainian marked fighter jets bombing eastern Ukraine from bases in Moldova, Azerbaijan, etc. Possibly with Polish or Israeli pilots. Russians sending in more missiles and artillery, possibly staffed by Russians. If you don’t have your stuff in order already, it may be too late.

    69. David

      So what? If you are a Christian does this make a bit of difference in how you conduct your life or interact with other people? Whether the earth is 6,000 years old or 4.5 billion shouldn’t make any difference to how you live your life. Likewise if you aren’t a Christian. This kind of thing is a distraction. Personally, as a Christian I have no problem with science proving that earth is billions of years old. And I could care less when dinosaurs roamed the planet.

      • Joshua Ochoa

        It makes a difference on other people and that’s what christians are called to do. If people want evidence, Here they are. It wont change my believes because i already know who the creator is but it could change someone else’s.

    70. Poon Tang

      Do you know why there aren’t any more dinosaurs? Because they taste just like chicken.

      • jane

        No that’s not why, they ate each other up.

    71. Grafique

      I am about to prove the truth of the Bible and prophecy.

      The Eastern Gate of Jerusalem has been sealed and shut and no man can walk through it until Jesus himself returns and enters Jerusalem through it. About 600 B.C. God told Ezekiel that –

      “…This gate shall be shut; it shall not be opened, and no man shall enter by it, because the Lord God of Israel has entered by it; therefore it shall be shut.
      It is for the prince; the prince, he shall sit in it to eat bread before the LORD; he shall enter by the way of the porch of that gate, and shall go out by the way of the same.”
      – Ezekiel 44:2,3

      It is IMPOSSIBLE for any man to go through that gate. It cannot be bulldozed open, dynamited open, or burned open. An earthquake couldn’t open that gate. A nuclear bomb couldn’t open it.

      Efforts have been made to open it.
      In 1917 Muslim leaders in control of Jerusalem tried and failed to break the prophecy and open the gate. On the exact day the workmen were preparing to demolish the ancient stone, the hand of God intervened and the city of Jerusalem passed out of Muslim control into the hands of the British.

      In the Six Day War, some members of the Jewish military suggested catching the Jordanian defenders of the city off guard by blowing open the sealed Eastern Gate. But the leader of the group, an Orthodox Jew, vehemently protested the idea, stating that “the Eastern Gate can be opened only when the Messiah comes.”

      Jerusalem’s Eastern Gate has been closed since Jesus entered the city shortly before his crucifixion. It will remain closed until Jesus returns and opens it himself.

      • atheist

        You’re a special Kind of stupid aren’t you

        • Grafique

          May be. But in spite of your superior intellect, not even you can open Jerusalem’s Eastern Gate.

      • Bastet

        But how does that prove anything? You said yourself that people intervened: not “God”. So, no-one actually “tried” to blow it up or bulldoze it.

    72. atheist

      How retarted are you people that actually believe this bull shit go back to school and get an actual education

      • Grafique

        At least I can spell “retarded” and use punctuation correctly.

        Maybe you’d better go back to school and learn to spell and write.

        • PKLauLau

          Grafique: LOL!!!….God bless you for trying….


      • Ugly

        I did and I still believe….

      • Jimb

        I just love strawberry retarts.

        • PKLauLau


    73. Anonymous

      russia’s PUTIN must be getting mad

      14 Brigades, Helicopter Regiments to be Established in Russian Air Force in Coming Years

      thats 300,000 more troops being added to russia military

      amerika better stop messing with the russians

      or else it will get russia’s PUTIN’S BIG STICK!



      • PO'd Patriot

        My guesstimation will be some time sooner.

    74. Grafique

      Four truces have now been accepted by Israel but rejected by Hamas.

      “Hamas” was originally a Hebrew word. In the Bible, it’s translated as “violent”, “violence”, “cruel” and “false”.

      • Anonymous

        hamas was originally created by the jew mossad.

      • NLT

        The bible is a parable. Who gives a shit about the origin of a word. Did you know Na is Greek means yes. Who his a

        • Jimb

          You must live in Colorado.

    75. Angry Black Man

      Thanks for posting this, it’s sad that anything that gives credibility to the Bible is burned at the stake by the scientific community.

    76. BillBoYopYop

      My god, how idiotic can it really get? I think this must be an article from The Onion.

    77. Vic

      This is not a new discovery. The Institute for Creation Research ( has been reporting on this for years. This is common knowledge to the scientists, but mainstream science hides it. There are plenty of fossils that show soft tissue but it’s covered up because it goes against evolution theory and old-earth theory.

    78. Old Guy

      Man and dinosaurs do coexist/ We still have dinosaurs. alligators crocks turtles snakes all cold blooded creatures. The mammals ate the eggs and carried parasites that killed most of the big dinosaurs. crocks alligators snakes & turtles eat rodents and protect & bury their eggs. It was the event of rodents that led to the dinosaurs decline. The mammoth died off because of fleas carried to them by rodents. there wasn’t any specialized bird that could penetrate the mammoths wolly fur to eat the parasites. a few yet arrived. those where frozen when the poles suddenly shifted. the modern times elephants have birds that stay with them constantly feeding on the parasites. Rodents decimated the human population by spreading the plague. It was the event of rodents and the disease & parasites they hosted that was responsible. maby the ET,s brought them to the planet?

    79. Jeff

      OOPARTs….out of place artifacts….search it via start

      Human footprints along side dinosaur footprints discovered in Glen Rose, TX.

      The theory of evolution is complete bunk, just like global warming.

      UFO / ET does exist as well. 90% of UFO observations are viewing man made technology…..this includes saucers and triangles. The other 10% is ‘theirs’. Operation Solar Warden is a FACT. We have the technology to go outside of our solar system, but earth inhabitants are not allowed outside of it beacause we are too destructive. This is a FACT.

      People need to wake up!!

    80. elizabeth wesley

      Between verses 1 and 2 of Gen 1 a cataclysmic event occurred that destroyed all living at that time. This is recorded in Isaiah 14:12-17 and Ezekiel 2:12-19. Obviously these verses refer to Satan who because of pride, tried to take over the throne of God.
      The earth is probably millions of years old but creation to replenish the earth was an event more recent, about 6 or 7 thousand years ago.
      Man is full of pride; evolution is only a theory which is pushed forward as fact by the ignorant who think they know everything. The variety and complexity of what is life here on earth did not come from ancient slime; there is magnificent order in every species and the complexity of a human being is beyond comprehension, yet that satanic evil invades our midst where control and money rule man’s intellect.

    81. Steve Richards

      This gentleman was not the first person to find soft tissue in dinosaur remains. A woman researcher in 1997 found soft tissue and veins, and recently in China they found a huge number of dinosaur remains in one location, and lo and behold, they found SOFT TISSUE.

      Of course, it is impossible for soft tissue, dna, or blood vessels and veins to last a million years, much less 86 million years.

      Scientists are pretty stupid – or they have been threatened and too terrified to speak up.

    82. Tim

      One thing I know for sure. Theologians will never have to fear science because the author of life was the designer of the rules. So honest research will always lead back to truth. In God We Trust.

    83. dillon b

      It is not only “carbon dating” that is used to date an object. They also use the strata on which the evidence was found. There are a whole lot of other professional fields of study that go into determining the age of something. I see there are no real scientists commenting on here. Your ignorance of 21st century methodology and technological advancements astounds me.

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