“Everything Else Is Almost Irrelevant”: Era Of Cheap Money Ending, Financial Hell Unleashed

by | Jan 3, 2017 | Conspiracy Fact and Theory, Emergency Preparedness, Headline News | 97 comments

Do you LOVE America?



    We’re living in the calm before the storm.

    That much everyone can sense.  The stock market highs and holiday spending spree will soon be over, the inauguration will presumably go as planned, but that’s when everything could start to go off course.

    The only question is how the storm is going to stir into a frenzy – there will be a pretext of some kind. What seems certain is that it is past time to get ready for a difficult period. This could be the big, slow squeeze and the long winter.

    The economy became immune to stimulus and quantitative easing; the market can only be propped up so long, and the realities of raised interest rates a matter of timing for the Fed to decide. Now, President-elect Trump provides the catalyst necessary for a dramatic rise and fall in the economy.

    With the force of the economic avalanche that is poised to fall upon us all, the policies and actions of President Trump will do little to stem the tide of what is already coming; for better or worse, there is little that Trump himself can do even though it may fall squarely on his administration.

    There are many putting out the talking points now; the warnings are reaching a crescendo.

    Jay L. Zagorsky, Economist and Research Scientist at Ohio State University, is predicting a recession for 2017, in spite of glowing outlooks, that could dominate headlines:

    My outlook for 2017 and beyond is that the U.S. economy will likely see another recession.


    It could be a sudden trigger like the collapse of Lehman Brothers in late 2008 or just a general loss of confidence.

    […] At the end of very long expansions, banks and finance companies are willing to lend to almost anyone because they become overly optimistic. Some of this willingness to lend carelessly is currently seen in U.S. car loans.

    […] like a game of musical chairs [….] suddenly “the euphoria becomes a panic, the boom becomes a slump.”

    Recession, of course, is a euphemism for something much more far reaching… yet the sense of true panic is there. This could be bad.

    Regardless, people across the spectrum are warning about the financial blowback that is likely headed our way. Many prominent economists are currently signalling either slow growth, or the onset of a crisis that no Trump could contend with, as RT notes:

    Many of the experts said the global trade slowdown, seen during the slight recovery from the financial crisis that started nearly a decade ago, could worsen.

    Emerging economies are expected to remain vulnerable… accelerating inflation and a soaring US dollar among the risks to the economic balance.

    Dollar strength, weakening other currencies, will influence how emerging markets manage relatively higher inflation, as well as falling business confidence, they said.


    “Mr. Trump and his team have promised growth of 3.5 to 4 percent or more, which we see as ‘magical thinking’ unless accompanied by accelerated productivity growth,” said Michael Carey, US economist at CA-CIB.

    If these guys are right, the Trump Administration promises of boosting the economy could end up a no go, nothing more than “magical thinking” and an overly-optimistic sales pitch.

    Hopefully they are wrong.

    Mike Adams emphasized the gravity of this massive monetary shift – it will rock global events, and likely overshadow almost anything else taking place during 2017 and the years that follow it:

    The only prediction that really matters for 2017: The global debt collapse begins, followed by the rise of fascist, totalitarian government

    At first, I thought about putting together a list of 25 bold predictions for 2017, but in the end I realized only one prediction really matters. It makes everything else almost irrelevant.

    The era of cheap money and free debt is going to come to a catastrophic end

    To understand the implications of this one prediction, you need to grasp the reality that we are approaching the end of the era of cheap money, endless debt and fiat currency money creation.

    […] For decades, presidents and central bankers kicked the can down the road, printed new fiat currency and spent the nation into financial oblivion. President Obama, America’s first Muslim President, doubled the federal debt in just eight years…

    Now, with Trump getting sworn into office on January 20, 2017, the globalists no longer want to prevent the debt collapse from taking place.

    The timing of all this is during Trump’s first four years. The plans will be set into motion in early 2017, and the mechanisms for engineering a crash will be initiated almost immediately after Trump’s inauguration. The effects of those actions, however, will take time […] no one can accurately predict the timing of when those actions will release the avalanche of global debt collapse. […] but what we do know is that once the avalanche begins, it will be unstoppable until it hits bottom.

    As the debt collapse unfolds, we’re going to see the freezing of banking transactions, government payments and food stamp debit cards. The stock market will collapse (or be frozen), pensions will collapse, many banks will implode, the FDIC will go bankrupt, real estate will collapse, international banks will save themselves with “bail ins” and so on. It’s going to be financial Armageddon on a scale no living person has ever witnessed before.

    Once that happens, there will be a backlash from the federal government and the emergency infrastructure that could swiftly implement a police state, tight cash and monetary controls, violence, looting and unrest in the streets and short supplies everywhere.

    If the crisis is widespread enough, almost any level of draconian measures could be justified.

    With nearly 50 million people dependent on food stamps in this country, no job growth, stagnant wages and a hungry, desperate and idle population drowning in debt, there will indeed by unrest as no one in this country has ever seen it.

    If they are fueling the fire so that it burns with spectacular destruction, it may be wise to get as far back and away as possible.

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      1. …all it will take is for someone to do something stupid. And, then all he has to do is…..

        • “The era of cheap money and free debt is going to come to a catastrophic end.”

          Yes, of course, cheap money and free debt will end. Catastrophic ??? LMFAO !!! 🙂

          Did you get YOUR FREE MONEY as I suggested here a few months ago ??? ZIRP will be replaced by “2% money” by the end of the year, according to the experts who say the FED will tighten 3 times. (Personally, I think rates will move higher, faster.)

          TWO Percent money for the 1% is STILL very cheap money !!! It may as well be free because the cost is STILL peanuts, historically. Two percent money, three percent money, or even four percent money is not going to trigger a “catastrophe”.

          How ??? A complete economic collapse as envisioned here must be generated by an unforeseen black swan: like an emp, pole shift, massive earth change, Yellowstone blowing, etc.

          “As the debt collapse unfolds, we’re going to see the freezing of banking transactions, government payments and food stamp debit cards.”

          As debt defaults mount, the debt will be marked to market and resold for pennies on the dollar to other investors,like ALWAYS !!!

          Bad derivatives ??? Hedge Funds and speculators will go bankrupt. Banks will sell their bad debt to the FED or to a “Derivative Resolution Trust Corporation” where the debt will be marked to market, clearing these liabilities from the balance sheets of the major banks.

          I assume the author meant that a “freezing of banking transactions” means a credit crunch for those without cash or credit; like those businesses and individuals who are over leveraged and haven’t moved fast enough to pay debt down with existing cash flow. Yeah, they will be hurt as inventories mount and business declines. The over leveraged are ALWAYS crushed at the end of the business cycle.

          This doesn’t mean a banking holiday where you cannot access your accounts. Not gonna happen.

          Under a Clinton Presidency a massive general economic collapse may very well have occurred to usher in OWG. TRUMP has changed the equation. In TRUMP’S world bankers are businesses and if / when they fail and go bankrupt, they disappear.

          In TRUMPS world, bankers will go to jail, banks will be NATIONALIZED meaning the STOCK EQUITY will be forfeited and the assets resold to investors after the bad debt is transferred to the FED.

          Don’t think the TOP BANKERS don’t understand the NEW REALITY. They will not trigger another massive default
          because they understand the consequences.

          They are not too big to jail and they will not walk away unscathed, with salaries and benefits intact. There’s a new Sheriff in town. 🙂

          • BTW, Government payments and food stamps WILL NOT END and in fact, in REAL SHTF as envisioned here, payments will be extended and even increased.

            Who really benefits from government payments ??? The useless eaters who receive them ??? Wrong !!! Big Business who distributes goods and services from useless consumers.

            Otherwise Revolution occurs and heads would roll. Payments are not gonna stop !!! That’s what the printing press is for: self preservation.

            Continuing payments does not mean HYPERINFLATION either !!! 🙂

            • Big Business who distributes goods and services from useless consumers……………

              OR…distributes goods and services ‘FOR’ useless consumers???

              • Thanks JayJay. Fat Finger Syndrome. I meant to say “to” 🙂

          • 2% interest isn’t cheap when they are borrowing trillions at a time to fill the void left by derivatives and the depression that is still going on. It’s very expensive. Unaffordable, actually. It either has to be near zero rates, or no borrowing at all. You have no idea what you’re talking about. Just more garbage from local wannabe prophet, durango.

            • The debt is MANAGEABLE. It always has been. Even when the Prime Rate sky-rocketed to 18% years ago and 30 year fixed rate mortgages were 13%. Why no “collapse” then, or are you too young to remember those rates ???

              Contrary to the opinion of fools who do not understand the creative aspect of finance, there are a number of tools left by which the FED can manage and unwind bad debt.

              Yes the sums are staggering, but ratios are the key.

              This is not to defend the FED, but only to educate the community here as to the other possibilities. “Economic Collapse” does not happen without emp, pole shift, the BIG ONE, or Yellowstone blowing.:-)

          • Interesting point of view. The only thing I disagree with is that Trump will not jail his cronies, at least not the ones at the top. There may be some lower level bankers they will use as scapegoats, similar to Bernie Madhoff, but for the most part I believe the real devils will go unscathed, as usual. Trump may be somewhat of a rebel, but we still have Goldman Sachs, J.P. Morgan running the show, just with a different ideological view, which ultimately is really the same, just a different way of getting to their ultimate goal by using the flip-flopping sentiment of the “sheep” at the time.

          • I sure hope you are correct.

      2. It has already started for me.
        one of my annuities just sent me
        a yearly update. No raise this year.
        That annuity is based upon mostly
        corporate and Federal government
        This annuity has a track record that
        is hard to beat(over 90 years and prospered
        during the 1930’s depression), so
        if they are being penurious, the
        clouds are on the horizon.

        I’ve been practicing making bread from
        red wheat berries. WOW! It is great.
        Keep on preparing.

        • The only annuities getting big raises this year or the last have been unionized pensions in states and cities run by the left. You’ve seen some of them going under, too. More to come.

          The rest of them have been getting realistic COLAs, like yours. Even the feds and SSA pensioners got only 0.3%.

          • The people making big money on annuities are the Sales Guy and Ladies selling them to you. Unbelievable commissions. And then you have no access to all your money.

            With- 50 million people dependent on food stamps in this country – How many are plenty able to work if they had a job in front of them?? There will be a works program to get people off the Free Food Stamps, like you have to show up for work and this job to get the food stamps. If you fail to show up you don’t get the food stamps period. Many on food stamps, sell off their EBT benefits for drugs.

            • Hey “Z”
              Most company pensions
              are paid out as an annuity.
              You don’t have a choice as they
              own your pension and are usually
              legally obligated to “pay in full”
              unlike union or government pensions.
              I get a report every year and I know
              where my money comes from, how well funded
              the annuity is, and the costs
              of the people managing the money.
              The only people getting rich are the
              Democrats stealing money from me
              in the form of taxes.

              • Trump Tells DHS To Prepare For Border Wall Construction

                By Tyler Durden Jan 4 2017

                A memo from the Department of Homeland Security, which was recently reviewed by Reuters, suggest that the Trump administration plans to hit the ground running on the construction of that U.S.-Mexico border wall when they move into the White House later this month. The memo apparently summarized a meeting held between DHS officials and Trump’s transition team on December 5th in which requests were made for an assessment of “all assets available for border wall and barrier construction.”

                In a wide-ranging request for documents and analysis, President-elect Donald Trump’s transition team asked the Department of Homeland Security last month to assess all assets available for border wall and barrier construction.

                The requests were made in a Dec. 5 meeting between Trump’s transition team and Department of Homeland Security officials, according to an internal agency memo reviewed by Reuters. The document offers a glimpse into the president-elect’s strategy for securing the U.S. borders and reversing polices put in place by the Obama administration.

                The Trump transition team also allegedly took aim at Obama’s executive actions, requesting “copies of every executive order and directive sent to immigration agents since Obama took office in 2009.”

                The transition team also asked for copies of every executive order and directive sent to immigration agents since Obama took office in 2009, according to the memo summarizing the meeting.

                Trump has said he intends to undo Obama’s executive actions on immigration, including a 2012 order to allow children brought to the U.S. illegally by their parents to remain in the country on temporary authorizations that allow them to attend college and work.

                The program, known as DACA, collected information including participants’ addresses that could theoretically be used to locate and deport them if the policy is reversed. Another request of the transition team was for information about whether any migrant records have been changed for any reason, including for civil rights or civil liberties concerns, according to the internal memo seen by Reuters.

                Among other immigration-related questions, the Trump transition team also hinted at expanding an aerial surveillance program and growing detention capacity for captured illegal immigrants.

                Click the link for the rest of the story.

              • rellik, if you ever inherit a pension, say from a parent, you can also request for a one time payout distribution without tax penalties, since it is inheritance. Instead of taking monthly payments. Consult a tax atty for details. In this crappy economy, it may be wise to take the lump sum, instead of the future IOU promise Mo. payouts, in case the pension program goes bankrupt or if benefits are reduced. Your payout will be larger in a bull market, since it is based on future earnings projections.

          • Which somehow left me with a $1 decrease??
            Go figure.

        • keepin’ on !

          have fresh picked turnip greens on the stove.

          TN mild this winter 🙂

          • What are your priorities for 2017 ??? Are you still trapped in the City living in the rat race, or living in a pricey apartment, but wishing for that BOL that you own in the country that is all yours? But just can’t seem to put your plan together, then consider these factors.

            First you need to make some hard decisions. Thinking like I just can’t seem to save $20K to buy some property. But you are driving a $30K vehicle that depreciates daily, then sell it, and buy a $5K vehicle, like a Utility Pick-up truck, and use the other $25K for your down payment. You will also save money on your auto insurance with a cheaper vehicle, and put that savings into a fund to buy your BOL property. Just me moving out into the country from the city, cut my vehicle insurance by 30%.

            Looking for Raw Land you want to carve out for your own; (Check out this website- http://www.landwatch.com) you will not be able to get a loan on Raw Land, unless it is owner financed, and you will still have to make payments on it. You want to pay cash for your land, and have extra money to work your property and put a few buildings on it or a cheap trailer to live in until you can get some buildings. A water well, plan on about $4K to dig a 100 Ft Well and run it off a 12v pump and solar panel. You can also dig your own septic and spend a thousand dollars to plumb it. Sell all your useless city crap in yard sales to raise more money.

            Stop buying flashy prepping trinkets with your every last dollar. What you need for tools at a BOL is a chain saw, shovels, wheel barrels, post hole diggers, wood splitter, metal blade weed wacker, water filtration system, generator, and finally a Solar system to produce your own Power. Start collecting these items now before you buy your property, and plan on $5K for your Solar system. Run the numbers and get your plan together. And start working your plan.

            You need to sacrifice all the things you do now that wastes money, like eating out and going to the movies, which is a total waste of your financial resources. Get rid of your cable Bill and get a part time job.

            What to consider when looking for a BOL Property. This video below and many others that this Guy puts out will help guide you in the direction to meeting your goals. And you better get your family and mate on board with this idea. If you run up against arguments, then you are with the wrong person in life. You need to get your priorities together now to accomplish this. This make take year or more, so stop procrastinating. Once you get on to your own property, it is a very fulfilling lifestyle as you are now much more in control of your life on your terms.

            5 Considerations for BOL/Retreat Property

          • Hope you got some pork floating in there with them greens. Just lift the window and holler when its ready and I’ll be along.

        • Rellik: No ss raises either for many, $2. a mo for military retirees, what a crock. Have to really watch sales and bogos now days (my “social lif”e only consists of checking for bogos online @ grocery stores and getting sales flyers and coupons. Banks paying zero interest, many retirees went back to work part time at big box stores.

          • Looks like you shoulndn’t depend on the govt. for a retirement. Now who woulda thunk? Welcome to reality 101!

            • Thats why i plan on never seeing a dime of the $ I paid into SS,

        • Rellik, would love to get your red berry bread recipe. I have been using hard berries for several years and love finding new recipes. Here is my Golden 86 hard white berry recipe….and I do substitute and mix in some red berries from time to time.

          6 cups of fresh ground Golden 86 berries
          2 cups and 1/4 cup warm water
          1/4 cup and 1 teaspoon honey
          3 tablespoons butter melted
          1 teaspoon salt
          2 1/4 teaspoon yeast

          Use whisk to mix fresh ground flour, then separate out 3 cups into a bowl, add 2 cups warm water and stir. Cover and let sit for 30 minutes while the next step completes.

          Place 1/4 cup warm water in bowl and stir in 1 teaspoon honey, then add yeast and stir gently. Let rise for 30 minutes.

          After 30 minutes, add the yeast mixture into the flour mixture with water and stir. Then add the melted butter, 1/4 cup honey, and 1 teaspoon salt and stir well. Then and the remaining flour one cup at a time, mixing well until all is used. Then knead mixture for 10-12 minutes by hand or use your bread mixer for 8 minutes (I use my Bosche mixer to knead bread). As you are kneading take note of whether you need to add a dab more flour or not because depending on the weather, you may get a stickier dough. You want it to feel soft and pliable but not overly sticky.

          Turn dough into an oiled bowl, cover with damp clothe and let raise for an hour and half or two. I generally wait two hours for a nice dough. Then turn it out on oiled surface and flatten. Cut in half and using rolling pin, roll and shape so you can roll it up into a bread roll me you would with a cinnamon bread. Then place in two oiled cast iron bread pan and cover. Let rise for 30 minutes. Then preheat oven to 425 degrees. Uncover the bread and let it rise for the final 30 minutes.

          Place two pans into hot oven and bake for 23 to 24 minutes. Take out of oven and then out of pans, place on cooling rack. Let cool before cutting if you can. Delicious! Will only be moist for sandwiches for about 3 days because no preservatives, but good for toast or French toast for another day or so.

          Hopefully I haven’t left anything out. It really is simple, just takes a bit to sit and let the dough work itself.

          I am also looking for a really good pumpernickel recipe if you know of one.

          • Ah! Whole wheat bakers! I mill my flour 75/25 % Hard wheat(red or white) and Spelt or Soft Wheat. Try this.
            4+ C flour
            1 1/8 C whey
            1/4 C milk kefir
            1/4 C honey
            1/4 C coconut oil
            3 tsp yeast
            1 1/2 tsp salt

            Warm the bowl & add kefir,honey, coconut oil. Warm the whey & add yeast. Add yeast mix to the warm bowl. Add salt to the flour then mix, knead, proof, pan/proof again then bake at 375 for 35 minutes.


            • Thanks! Nice to know about the ratio that is working well for you… and the new recipe to try. I hadnt thought about using my Spelt or soft wheat in this manner. Not sure what milk kefir is, but I can look that up. Thanks!

          • The honey is good, is a fine line between just right and too much though, makes bread dense if you put too much,

        • Most of the time when i make bread dough i add quick oats to it, i try all sorts of stuff though, usually just 3 cups warm water, 2tbs yeast, 1.5tbs salt 1/2 cup sugar, 3eggs, 6-7 cups flour, 2 cups oats,
          Mix, let rise once, make loaves, let rise an hour or so then bake, the flour i vary, what kind, sometimes home grind, sometimes wheat, sometimes white, keeps it interesting

          • Thanks for the idea about adding the quick oats. What temp and length of time do you usually use for baking bread?

      3. Good reasons for having some gold or silver to pay your taxes for the next few years, to be out of debt, to have only a modest amount in banks, and to have a stash of food and ammo. Nothing new to readers here. You can expect the government to try to tax or confiscate anything it can reach.

      4. The police state will be broke,really not worried about em as they will be damned to risk their lives for a few bucks,perhaps they try and hold a couple of cities but good luck with even that!

        Thats it,am ordering more threads for me “speedy stitcher”,make a few bucks doing repairs for folks during trying times!

        • Not to worry, I have lots of freeze dried water and freeze dried beer. That speedy stitcher sounds cool, I shall have to look into it, thanks. The guy that said spider line (maybe spider wire fishing line) may be onto something. I have used that before and it is some tuff stuff! With that said I do need to add spider wire to my list. And for those interested beprepared . com is having a huge sale. Some good deals goin on. And WD, I still love ya even though you are on some whiskey war with me 🙂

          • War?Oh you mean your dual put down me Jack posts you assaulted me with while I was really trying to behave meself and be nice during the holidays?!

            You know,the posts after all the hager solo videos with nary a mention of the Montrose days?Hell,even Sam Halen days better then that solo garbage,proof of the damage your home made brew does to ones critical thinking!

            Excuse me now while I get back to scrapping off the luminous off of old watches/centrifuge arriving this week from ebay,boy,are those tannerite gnomes in for a surprise!

            War?Fuck that,that implies survivors!To quote a GOOD song:
            “This ain’t Rock “n”Roll
            This is Genocide!”

        • Warchild,

          Feds have stockpiled food, meds, etc.. Many jack boots will comply because they feel they are safer in their numbers. Being well fed, clothed, taken care of as well as their wife/kids will create compliance. Full bellies help create loyalty.

          Comfort will be traded for killing.


          • Boyo,as mentioned may work out short term in urban cities but not suburbs/rural areas.Even in controlled cities there will be a lot of casualties on the martial law goons.This long term will not even work for elites as their supposed gaurds decide fuck em and kill them for their stuff.Folks with nothing to lose and everything to gain only have to get it right once before they die and the goons dead pile adds up quick.

      5. So basically, spend what you’ve got (on preps, of course) before the bottom drops out on the financials.
        But it would still be prudent to hold some cash – just in case.

        • Back Room: stash the cash, banks pay little or zero. Tax free muni bonds pay more.

      6. Careless lending of car loans. The cars are junk or are money pits before the loan is paid. Or the car gets repossessed and resold if payments aren’t made. Somebody is winning here or these loans wouldn’t be handed out.

        • That was part of the TARP deal was bailing out subprime auto loans too, now the banks think they got it made, wait till they start failing and Trumps guys shut em down and tell everyone to keep the cars

      7. Hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

        We’re Screwed six ways to Sunday. And If that is the case, then we better get to talking on how we are going to get through this mess. Because nobody’s going to care who’s fault it is when it gets bad. Remember when a candy bar was a nickel? Could it be $2.00 real soon. You could be happy to pay $5.00 for the same candy bar.
        A good article would be, “How to Do Without”. Without money. A Bath. Without electricity or running water. Your favorite shopping mall or grocery store. Cell phone or X-box. How does one replace social additions and status standings in the group as they compete for food rations or comfort items.

        The only thing certain in life is change. I do believe we are gonna get some.

        • anon- Good Topics- A good article would be, “How to Do Without”. Without money. A Bath. Without electricity or running water.

          Prepper tip in SHTF.
          Go buy a case of bottled water, infact about 10 cases per person and keep that level up for your livable preps in a grid collapse. Take a cap off one bottle of water and with a small nail and a hammer punch about 6 holes in the cap from the inside out. Use a stock piece of wood as backing as you hammer the holes. Now put the cap back on and squeeze the bottle. You just invented your body shower and dishwasher. Use the same cap on the next bottles. This will help conserve water, and disperses the water just like a shower. You will also need some type of spicket water, which you can also purchase the 2.5 Gallon water containers at the store, to be able to wash both your hands, hands free. You can also just wet down a small hand towel with water and sponge bath your self clean. Not quite a real shower but you will need to adapt. What choice do you have?

          For dish washing, after you cook, wipe the pans and dishes as clean as you can with a paper towel. Then put in a 2 x 1 ft dish pan until you have enough to do dishes. Then boil some water in a tea kettle, and get up to a boil. Drip dish soap over your dishes, then lightly pour the hot boiled water over the dishes. Then start scrubbing one at time and rinse with your bottle water with the shower cap holes and place the clean dishes in another dish pan 2 x 1 foot and 6″ deep. After you are done you can wipe the dished dry or let them drip air dry. This also reduces your water usage.

          Try doing this off the grid, and practice. If you are lucky you will have your own water well and a solar system to power the pump for limitless water. If not you will need to use bottled water, and use the steps I described above. 22 months off the grid here, and I can talk from experience of how to cope in a controlled situation. The more prepared in basic water usage you are, the less stress in SHTF. No more marathon double day showers. That was back in the good ol’ days. ha.

          • Without money no problem,,
            Without a bath i dont like so much, even if i gotta just use the solar shower and some rain catchings

        • I will remember whos fault is was just long enough to dispatch the bastards…just sayin’

        • anon, second that on the article “How to Do Without.”
          Gets my brain working, like “running water.”
          When I lived in a rustic cabin in my early twenties my only water source was a garden hose from a neighbor’s house. Turned off at night, I didn’t feel like walking over to turn it on, so I learned how to brush my teeth with just a coffee cup of water. Piece of cake.
          Those were the days of real carefree living. Except where the next dollar was coming from. Still carefree, tho.

          • Ketchupondemand.

            The time I enjoyed best was when hunting season came to an end and the camp closed up. It was the time before cell phones. C.B radios were the norm. I would stay a few more days than the others. Sitting on 7000 acres and not a soul but myself, a few bottles of beer. a bottle of Ancient Age with plenty of firewood. Played some music on tapes that I recorded. Had some food to cook when I wanted to eat. Most of all I didn’t want anything else. Just the sounds of the woods. There are lots of things I can do without. It’s the things you need to keep you alive that matters most. For entertainment I would sing, burn wood or walk the roads on the property.

            • Something to be said for solitude for sure, sorta why i like to work alone, nobody to bug you,

        • I just bought 1.5 years worth of Swagger body wash and deodorant for my hubby at more than 50% off by buying clearanced boxed gift sets. When SHTF at least my man will smell good 😛

          • Yeah and somebody will smell him too out in the brush. Dogs will smell it as well.

      8. OK, so again just how is the era of cheap money going to end as long as half of the country is on food stamps or welfare?

        They’re not going to stop the printing presses.

        Absolutely no one is going to be able to control anything.

        Can we stop with the globalist cabal birdseed? It’s a childish notion. There is no control. It’s out of control.

        • cloward and piven strategy…look it up…offer everything everyone ever wants until everyone is hooked, then withdraw it all…riots and revolution…overthrown and broken governance..then martial law…bam! instant coop right into tyranny!! YAY!!!

          • Its already starting, thats one theory i have heard with regards to the fed and Trump, the feds already raising rates, Trumpster is the bankruptcy king, sooner or later they will say they gotta cut their losses and write a budget that cuts the spending to the bone, cry now or cry later, might as well get it over with

      9. Time for a reset of sorts. Only the monied interests matter. The rest can all die in service to those monied interests. Capitalism at its finest. It’s a shame that the population is so non concerned and blind to the deceit that passes as government.

        • Our debauched system honors the principles of Capitalism the way genocidal crusaders honored the values of Jesus Christ. That is, not at all.

      10. My candy is tree bark and bugs. Yummers.

      11. Police State…??? I don’t think so, as tThe cops are not going to work for free…. They will stay home to protect their families.

        • Not all cops have families. There are many who will obey orders and stay with their pack when the time comes.

      12. Somegood news:
        GOP Rep introduces national CC permit.
        Senate introduces repeal of Ocare.

        • eagle1, we already have a national CC permit. See the 2ndA. That’s all we need.

          • Excellent point Moe,though the 2nd just reaffirms a birth right.I really need that decoder ring so many have in govt. when they pass so called gun control acts,I see nothing in bill of rights about permits/law abiding/hell,the list of things that disqualify seems endless and growing!

            Get scotus on hearing the 1934 gun act and get it repealed,till then,ignore ALL bullshit laws!

      13. As soon as the easy money dries up, all projects stop, such as building. We owned a engineering firm and the money dried up in 2007 in August and phones stop ringing. Everyone we talked with in the business said the same thing. Without future projects and no capital coming in you watch your dream just dry up. Then in 2008 the housing market failed. Milllions of hard working Americans lost their dream of home ownership and loss of work. If you think 2008 was bad we will witness a much bigger meltdown. Keep looking for the signs of new trouble on the horizon. Start stocking upon food and prepping.

      14. The only major purchase I have in mind in the next few months is an old truck to replace the Honda. The Honda is Ok mechanically but need a truck worse. In March I should have enough saved up to make the move. Other than that, just my usual preps. And of course I will go to another private owner for cash. No credit crap for me ever.

        • Funny the banks also tells you that. No credit for you ever. lol Like you even have a choice. lol

          • Zeus, I’m far better off NOT being in any kind of debt, ESPECIALLY in this crappy economy. I don’t care for the idea of getting a damn loan to buy a vehicle and then spending the next, oh say, 3 to 6 years to pay it off. I NEVER pay THAT kind of money for anything, period! Not my cup of tea. I never have to worry about the repo man.

          • Ah,WWTI,oooops,meant Zues,glad to see you still attacking posters,go play with your pet alligators.

      15. Stop wringing one’s hands over those things which are outside your sphere of influence.

        Recommit to your own personal goals, whatever they are.

        Shore up your relationships with family. Step beyond the holiday celebrations, to make an extra effort to reinforce the bonds between yourself, your spouse, children, parents, siblings, aunts, uncles, grandparents or grandchildren.

        Do whatever you can to strengthen the relationship with old friends. Make new friends.

        Find out what is happening in your community. Be there for your group.

        The government is an illusion. Reality is all around, and inside.

        Break bad habits. Whether it is an addiction to pornography, cigarettes, drugs, or alcoholism. Quit sabotaging yourself.

        Write down your goals for this year, for this decade, for your life. Then put the goals somewhere where you will see them. That can be inside your closet, or sock drawer. It is not every bodies business. You need your goals clarified and put into logical thought, committed to pen and paper. That makes it real. You can then bring your goals into manifest reality seemingly without effort, although you may wind up working very hard.

        __ peace and prosperity to all here in 2017 and beyond

        • Doooooh, Why would I purposely destroy my happiness by getting closer to what relatives I have left that I don’t like? I got rid of old friends because I outgrew them. I LIKE my drinky poo’s and they do not adversely affect me (except typing here lol). I have plenty of fun doing what I do and I don’t have to listen to the maniacal shit from relatives and old bygone friends. I have new and improved friends! Whats going on in my community is a bunch of mormon asswipe idiots are dragging their knuckles around co-signing eachothers bullshit. My resolution is to store at least 750 lbs. of sugar. Oh and to try and grow some tobacco. REMEMBER THIS! You can choose your friends, you CANNOT choose your relatives…..

          • Many of our founding fathers (rolling in their graves) drank like fishes and made booze and smoked. I could have been good bud’s with them 🙂

            • I mean who the hell wants to live to be 100 on this retard ranch anyway?

              • Genius.

                When do you reach that point where you have outlived your usefulness. Some of us are no spring chickens anymore. Like most of us are going to slip on a 70 pound pack and run off to the mountain top. Tote around a thousand rounds of .223 in a 50 cal. ammo can. Add on some joint and muscle pain and the 50 yard dash becomes the 26 mile marathon. I am not gong to move more than 100 feet from point A to point B and can grab stuff pre positioned in route. Trading mobility for structural protection and stand alone capability.
                Why do I stress stand alone capability? I want to be able under fire to be comfortable enough (if that is possible) to repetitively place kill shots. Shot placement in shorter terms.

                Used to be able to use iron sights. Then moved to 3x9x40mm scope and then again on to lasers.

                Hell getting old and still thinking you are 20.

                • Anon, damn good points. I’m pushing 60 and definitely feel it. Climbing mountains and making fast dashes are for young people.

            • Check out the whiskey making as George Washington’s Mount Vernon. Washington had one of the largest Weesky operations in Colonial America and they’re still making it and selling it there today.

              • at, not as.

                • Hmmmm…..,whiskey made at the home of the first POTUS who was going to send troops to enforce the whiskey tax,the guy who became the monster he had fought?!Nope,not a penny from me even if I was drinking at moment!

      16. B is the kind of guy I want in my neighborhood.

        • Over,agree,as long as he leaves me tobacco plants alone!

      17. I like to watch YouTube vids different preppers post. Ive heard some stupid shit said. One lady said she would use her last gallon of gasoline running her generator to watch little mermaid movie. She stated that running air conditioning is a luxury and running the fridge to keep beer cold is a waste. First that 1gallon of gas could be used in a vehicle to get a load of fire wood to heat the home or in the generator to power drills and saws for improvement projects to the homestead like building chicken coups or other nessasary things. Second if someone in your household has respiratory issues like a elderly person maybe then running an air conditioner is not a luxury it’s nessasary for survival. Thirdly running a fridge isn’t a waste of fuel to keep your food from spoiling while your consuming it all up and if there is a few cold beers in there so be it. Watching movies with your limited resources is fucking stupid. Now I don’t thing this lady is out to mislead people but her rationalizing process is fucked. We are talking shtf power is out and your hearing on your little radio that it may be months before it’s back on line. People never talk about managing their resources this is not same as rationing. You have water food firewood ammo propane gasoline. Vehicles and generators and gas power equipment use gasoline. Propane for cooking and generator if you have it set up to run on it like I do. Firewood for cooking and wood stoves. Water for you your garden and animals. Ammo for guns. If you burn all your gasoline in your generator watching movies while you run out of firewood you won’t have it to run your truck to haul in more firewood. If you use the propane in the generator you won’t have it for cooking when you need to keep a low key. If you shoot all your ammo at paper you won’t have it when your door gets kicked in at 1am. If you use all your water in the garden your animals will die. When looking at it all your not gonna piss away your little bit of gas when you need it to survive. A lot of people are gonna blow through their resources foolishly and then they gonna want and demand you share yours. I realize if you haven’t had tv for a month your gonna wanna watch anything. I’d rather get a load of firewood with the truck than with a wheelbarrel cus the wife wanted to watch a movie with the kids using our last gallon of gas.

        • The Liberals are now starting to Prep. They are searching for the right Bug Out Bag that will hold all their trophies.

          • Zeus

            The one’s for EVERYONE is a WINNER! or is that a whiner.

        • Electrolysis, wood gasification and other independence related technologies are suppressed. The greed factor at play. Must-protect-profit, call the EPA. The irony is that if wood smoke could hide the Fukushima catastrophe chainsaws would be given away.

        • Asshat, damn good points. Too many people don’t know how to get their priorities straight.

      18. Things I can do without.

        Megyn Kelly. FemiNazi.

        • Si’

        • Anon, AMEN to that post. Don’t need ANY feminazis, period!

      19. Don’t listen to these you tube people. There is nothing you can buy prep wise that will relieve you of sound decision making skills. All preps do is give you options. I don’t know about y’all but I want as many options as I can get for as long as I can get. Anyone with a brain will not use their bottled water to do the laundry and collected water from the roof to drink. Let’s get fucking real this is shtf your living off your finite resources and they will run out eventually. You just gonna eat all your beans or you gonna supplement it with small game meat to stretch your stash. Forget the zombie fantasies. This isn’t some fun little camping trip you can pack the shit in the car and leave when it rains. Snap the fuck out of it your life is on the line. If you think it’s some kind of joke just kill yourself. I’ve seen people get injuries screwing around and other people laughing while the person is hurt. These people who laugh think life is a joke and have no place in the preparedness community. For others it’s just a way to supplement income they don’t really believe shtf is gonna happen but they review gear for their buddies cus they get a cut. Then there is those who supposedly prep but don’t believe the worst case scenario is even possible they still believe the gov will come to the communities aid just before it get really ugly. This is delusional thinking. The gov doesn’t have the power to stop the truth from hitting you and yours and who’s to say they wanna anyway.

      20. Hmmm,
        I’m a bit more optimistic. Yes, I still prep, it is all about being ready for the unexpected.

        When you look at the finances for any public company there is a line item on their balance sheet called “good will”. This is the credit value of their good name.

        For say IBM you can check their balance sheet on Google Finance and find good will is listed at 32 billion for them. Literally this is their expected credit value based on their good name alone, without something held as security.

        In pessimistic times this number shrinks, in optimistic times it grows. Since Trump won, optimism is at an eight year high.

        If the powers that be want to crush the economy, they have to crush the Trump optimism. The press has been trying to do this since Trump won the primary. They haven’t done so good so far.

        I’m also pleased that a lot of the damage Obama has done, was done via executive memos and executive orders, because they can be undone by Trump simply with another executive order or executive memo.

        Time will tell, just keep on prepping.

      21. Manson is out just in time for Helter Skelter…lol

      22. Mac, most posters didn’t get it.
        The message is not clear enough.
        This will NOT be a financial Armageddon, it will be a physical Armageddon where everything is destroyed.
        They don’t understand that this is a planned financial abyss which will be triggered/caused by several natural catastrophic events.
        Deagel.com, 2025 population forecast, is not some kind of conspiracy website. It was created for a reason.
        The staggering number of casualties (80%) should send shivers to all of us.
        Unfortunately, your article is not perceived that way.

        • Is the will to live optimistic, pessimistic or instinctive? Preppers here know. Your message is the whip to our backs. The unspoken black cloud ahead of us we can see well. So yes, it can be all three. We get it. It is what a prepper does.

        • Well, that makes sense. “Let’s plan a financial abyss and we’ll wait for some natural catastrophic events to launch it.”
          Good one, Bob.

      23. Fukushima. End game. The Pacific is already dying. Whales, the top end of the food chain, are starving to death. The entire pacific will be saturated by 2020. Estimates are up to 40 years to clean it. Search “Fukushima 28 signs”

        It’s curious about Revelations 8:11 Mentioning that 1/3 of the water was made poison…

        Massive bird die offs and declining insect populations.

        Nations go to war to fight over the remaining resources.

        Bullets, bread and Bugging in will spare some of us for the last. Get your affairs in order. Enjoy what little peace time we have left. Maybe it’s time to fulfill the bucket list?

      24. With so many Americans having access to “medical marijuana”, an economic collapse many not be noticed so much. I’ve never been much of a fan but if things are really as bad as some predict, I may give a try. Hell, I might even try growing it!

      25. Im all for higher interest rates. The zero interest rates punished those who saved money. Inflation negated their thrift. Higher interest will slow inflation. I think interest should be 10%. Remember this for every action there is a equal and opposite reaction. So there must be a equal number of positives to higher interest rates.

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