Earlier this week we noted that an invasion of the Ukraine by Vladimir Putin would likely lead to a complete destruction of U.S. stock markets. It’s not so much the invasion force itself, but rather, the economic maneuvers that would come with it should Russia take this course of action.
Well known economist and founder of the Shadow Stats web site John Williams seems to agree. If Russia were to begin unloading US Dollars it would almost instantly lead to a collapse of not only our financial markets, but our entire way of life. And while Russia alone may not have the economic power to single-handedly crush the U.S. economy, if their trading partners and allies like China got into the mix, coupled with front-running investors who may suspect the move is about to happen, it could well be a blood bath on a global scale.
This wouldn’t even be an issue if the U.S. economy were operating at healthy levels, but as Williams notes in the following interview with Greg Hunter’s USA Watchdog, it’s anything but:
What you have to keep in mind is that back in 2008 we had one of the greatest financial crises the United States ever faced. The system was on the brink of collapse at that point in time.
What the Fed and the federal government did was spend every penny they could, anything they could create or anything they could guarantee. They did everything they could possibly do to keep the system from crashing. They guaranteed all bank accounts. So, they saved the system, but now what they did has not borne fruit. We have not seen an economic recovery. We have not seen a return of health to the banking system.
So, the system is very vulnerable; and if the Russians carry through with their threat, you have, indeed, the risk of it collapsing the system.
(Video via Alt Market)
It does have the effect of creating a hyperinflation, which I think it would. It’s the type of circumstance that will not allow life to continue as we know it because the U.S. is not able to handle hyperinflation.
We’re not structured for it. Zimbabwe had one of the worst hyperinflations that anyone has ever seen. They were still able to function for a while because they get paid in a rapidly depreciating currency.
It was so rapid it became like toilet paper overnight… they would go to a black market and exchange it for dollars. We (the U.S.) don’t have a black market to escape from our dollars. Gold is probably the closest thing to that. Gold will tend to rally here as the dollar sells off, barring very heavy intervention by the central banks which you may see.
The fundamentals will eventually dominate, and you will see a very weak dollar and very strong gold coming out of this.
As it stands now, even without Russia and China, our economic system is, once again, on the cusp of a serious deleveraging. John Williams highlights that January retail sales, a leading indicator of economic health, gave the strongest signal since September 2007 that a recession is looming, if not already here.
One huge indicator of this is that Staples, a leading supplier of office supplies nationwide, is shutting the doors on 225 stores. And, they aren’t the only ones getting hammered by a pullback in consumer spending. The world’s largest retailer, Walmart, saw sales drop over 20% year-over-year in the fourth quarter of 2013.
And as trend forecaster Gerald Celente once noted, “as goes Walmart, so goes America.”
So, in reality, Russia can probably sit back and watch the U.S. economy slip into a coma over the next couple of years. Of course, if their intention is to return their nation to super power status, an attack on the US economy by dumping the dollar would speed up the process and amplify the fall-out, causing a multi-generational depression.
Last year Barack Obama faced off with Russia over Syria, a situation that could easily have led to a much wider conflict.
Now, the same players have taken the game to Ukraine.
In both instances we’ve heard warnings of a potential collapse of our economic system in the event of an escalation.
The point is that it really doesn’t matter if it’s Syria, Ukraine, Iran or some other periphery conflict.
It should be clear that eventually this is exactly how it’s going to play out with respect to the US dollar.
China and Russia will make their move when they are good and ready.
When that day comes the implosion will be so fast that most Americans won’t even realize what has happened or know how to cope.
The hardest thing is nailing down the timing but rest assured it’s coming sooner rather than later.
Make sure you keep very little in financial institutions. Cash on hand in small denominations and plenty of barter items.
I always wanted to wallpaper my den
with hundred dollars bills.
Now I feel it would be more like
getting toilet-papered on Halloween.
Save your hundies for buttwhipes OutWest. You may need em.
You can bet your “bottom dollar” you will need them for…that!
Anyone remember a comment about; What if they started a war and no one came? Well, in the event of financial FUBAR I have decided not to participate.
ISRAEL CUTS OFF WATER SUPPLY TO 45,000 PALESTINIANS
And the synagogue of Satan pretends to wonder what causes “antisemitism.”
Satan’s mobsters at work:
Here is my theory. Vladimir dumps 200M worth of bonds into the market, the Fed will bail the US Government out. Other countries will see this happening and start to cash in on their bonds as well, then we’ll see this house of cards fall apart, the dollar will be printed out of value.
This would enable the Russians to destroy our government without firing a single shot or looking like the bad guys in the international community. China will come to the rescue with a gold backed yuan. Then its welcome to a de-americanized world.
Could this be what Putin and his people had in mind all long? Only time will tell.
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“Now, the same players have taken the game to Ukraine. In both instances we’ve heard warnings of a potential collapse of our economic system in the event of an escalation.
The point is that it really doesn’t matter if it’s Syria, Ukraine, Iran or some other periphery conflict.”
The perhaps we should stop butting into every conflict on earth and mind our own business. We can’t even seem to get our own shit straight here at home.
…BRACE FOR A SHORT RANT…
You know, I think that, if I have to see yet another politician, athlete or movie star “come out” as being openly gay in the national media, I think I’m gonna puke. Who they choose to fuck is none of my business and, I JUST DON’T CARE TO KNOW, whether they are straight or gay, it doesn’t matter—keep that shit to yourself, and stop trying to advance yourself, using your crotch as leverage.
Also, WHAT THE HELL ARE WE DOING AS A COUNTRY? We put people in office for ALL THE WRONG REASONS…We voted for a president on the basis of the color of his skin, not on the merits of his character and works.
We’ll probably put Clinton in office too, for no other reason than she has tits, and we’ve never had a woman screw up our country, yet. If we voted on their merits and work history, Clinton wouldn’t even make it on a ballot.
We hire people for the most important jobs in this country, not because they are well qualified, but because they are Hispanic, Jew, Black or Gay, because “their ancestors may have been traded as slaves” or just outright cronyism…how’s that “affirmative action” working for us? Just look around and see for yourself.
Now, about that Russian “invasion” of Crimea. Amazing how easy it is to ignore the facts: 1. Russian has an enforceable contract with Ukraine, and 2. that OUR GOVT spent 5 billion tax dollars, from a country on the verge of collapse, to pay “rebels” to overthrow an elected govt, so we could install another puppet, favorable to OUR interests. The Russians didn’t initiate this mess—OUR GOVERNMENT DID, with the assistance of the EU banksters, who stand to gain from the overthrow as well.
Has anyone stopped to read “THE CONSTITUTION of THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION”? Here’s a link to the English version—I recommend you look it over.
To the Russian haters who will say “yeah, but they don’t honor their constitution or adhere to it”, allow me to point out that, WE AMERICAN’S DON’T ADHERE TO AND HONOR OUR CONSTITUTION EITHER.
So, which is black, the pot or the kettle? THEY ARE BOTH BLACK. We have no business pointing fingers at anybody else, but we do, with great relish and zeal.
We have become a nation of self-serving Hypocrites, and I for one, refuse to participate in the “New PATRIOTISM”.
I’ll stick to the old patriotism, thank you very much. At least we could hold our heads high, as we crossed our hearts and pledged allegiance…
RANT OFF. Sorry.
Hilarious Sattire — Putin memo to Bathhouse Erkle:
US KNESSET PASSES BILL TO EXPAND MILITARY TIES WITH THE MASTER RACE
Lmfao. Good one!!!
Sixpack: The Very First sentence of This new article is BOGUS and DISINFO, and Why has ZERO, NONE, MSM’s in Any western nations TV news or newspapers Reported THIS tidbit of factual Info from, MARCH 3rd, 2014??!!!
Putin NEVER “invaded” or “besieged” Ukraine.
It has been Proven by,ironically by the same Jew York Times, that Crimean “provisional armed forces” of the ARC and NOT Russian soldiers are the ones guarding sensitive infrastructure entities in the peninsula.
Indeed, the provisional army is made up of Crimea’s own home boys…in their apparently brand new uniforms bought from Russia.
As for Russian soldiers patrolling sensitive areas in Sevastopol and Crimea, CIA Director John Brennan briefed lawmakers today that Russia’s military movements in Ukraine is “permitted” under a 1997 treaty between the two neighbors that allows as many as 25,000 Russian troops in the Crimean region.
“The number of Russian troops that have surged onto the Ukrainian peninsula in recent days remains well below the 25,000 threshold,” Brennan Affirmed. (This was on March, 3rd, 2014).
National Summit to Reassess the U.S.-Israel “Special Relationship” today, March 7,
on C-SPAN 3 via cable or satellite TV
9 am to 5 pm Eastern Standard Time
or view it online at http://www.c-span.org/live/?channel=c-span-3
Schedule (all times are Eastern)
1. How does the Israel lobby influence Congress? 9:00 AM
Paul Findley – Should the executive outmaneuver Congress to save Palestine and Israel?
Janet McMahon – The Israel lobby network and coordinated PACs that finance U.S. elections.
Cynthia McKinney – In the Israel lobby’s cross-hairs.
Delinda Hanley – U.S. aid to Israel in numbers.
2. Does Israel and its lobby exercise too much influence on U.S. decisions to wage war in the Middle East? 10:15 AM
Stephen Sniegoski – Neoconservatives and the Iraq War.
Karen Kwiatkowski – Inside the Pentagon’s “Office of Special Plans.”
Gareth Porter – The “manufactured crisis” and drive for U.S. / Israel military actions against Iran.
Brigadier General (ret) James J. David – How does U.S. military aid to Israel impact relations with other U.S. allies?
3. Does the “special relationship” transcend rule of law? 11:15 AM
Grant F. Smith – A brief history of unprosecuted Israeli foreign agent, smuggling and espionage cases.
Ernie Gallo – The U.S.S Liberty: what really happened? What did not?
Mark Perry – Mossad poses as CIA? No-holds-barred national security reporting in the current environment.
M.E. “Spike” Bowman – The Jonathan Pollard Affair: what does it mean and what does it not mean?
4. History: How did the “special relationship” come to be? 12:45 PM
Stephen Walt – The “special relationship” and what has changed since publication of “The Israel Lobby” book
Geoffrey Wawro- Key findings from the book “Quicksand” and what happens to historians who revise history.
John Quigley – 1967, international law and cost of U.S. support for the occupation.
Alison Weir – Findings from the new book “Against Our Better Judgment”
5. Has the lobby captured political parties and news media? 2:15 PM
Jeff Blankfort – Are there Israel lobby gatekeepers and damage control squads on the Left?
Allen Brownfeld – The ACJ and battles over Zionism inside Jewish social welfare organizations.
Justin Raimondo – Has the Israel lobby captured the Right?
Scott McConnell – Did Neoconservatives take over GOP foreign policy?
Philip Weiss – What is changing in “permissible” mainstream public debate—and what is not?
6. Is Israel really a U.S. ally? 3:45 PM
Michael Scheuer – Does U.S. support for Israel expose America to blowback?
Paul Pillar – Are threats to Israel’s security inflated to justify occupation and U.S. support?
Ray McGovern – Does Israel act like a U.S. ally?
Philip Giraldi – Is Israel a U.S. ally?
C-SPAN 3 on cable or satellite television
9 am to 5 pm Eastern Standard Time
or view it online at http://www.c-span.org/live/?channel=c-span-3
Can’t argue any one of your points. They are facts, not opinion. I would expound on all of it but have “the hangover” of the century.
Well, I guess that’s better than having “the hang-over of the millennium”…LOL, hope you feel better soon.
I was just wondering for my on sake, not being smart azz, what good will cash be if it has collapsed?
A couple of things. 1. Banks may close. 2. Gov. may seize your account. 3. Natural or man made EMP could eliminate cashless transactions. 4. Your neighborhood farmer may not accept a SNAP card.
I agree. Cash will be accepted at least for a while. After that, be prepared to use PMs or other barter goods.
Until o and his ” White Shoe Boys ” come after American’s PM ! Followed by Savings and Checking accounts , retirement funds ( IRA’s , 401k’s , Pensions !) Europe was just a dry run for the BIG ENCHALADA , America’s Middle Class Wealth !
I’ve always had a slight disagreement with the precious metals argument. If the SHTF so badly that we are bartering with each other, a can of beans will be worth more than a lump of gold as big as that can.
Cash will be important if the online banking system is crashed or if bail-ins occur. It’s rumored that the online banking system will be taken down and hackers will be blamed. There will be a time when cash is still good but your bank account might be empty or frozen and your credit cards won’t work.
If you have that much “TP” you should convert it to tangibles…
i got lots of barterable items, shootit, but the problem is you won’t want to be caught DEAD talking with ANYBODY, because it will most likely GET you dead! you won’t know who to trust….300lb gorilla got it right when he said “nailing down the timing”. early on they won’t realize “IT” just happened, so i’m hoping there will be ONE DAY for us to get the rest of our preps together AFTER the “bell rings”. i’m about as prepared as a guy can BE, not knowing the timing. i will go all-in, spending every dime, AND credit available too, when the flag goes up. but you better be PAYING ATTENTION for those signs. i got this stuff already, but last day will be spent getting all cash available FIRST. your atm card won’t work, so i hope you got that covered. you SHOULD have been working on this list for YEARS now. top all tanks with fuel, including gas cans. top off all water containers, probly even fill bathtubs. get to vet store and get antibiotics. powdered milk will be PRICELESS too. get the protection lined up for the DEBT men walkin'(zombies) that will show up at yer place for the freebies..vitamins..DOG FOOD…VEG OIL, all the perishables you didn’t want to buy and throw away. fill the freezer, if time and the zombies permit. bleach, fill prescriptions. get water hoses to where you can fight fire if yer house is firebombed…hope you got the body armor lined up ALREADY!
Discovery Announcement ~ The densest element in the known Universe has been found!
A major research institution has just announced the discovery of the densest element yet known to science. The new element has been named Pelosium. Pelosium has one neutron, 12 assistant neutrons, 75 deputy neutrons, and 223 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 311.
These particles are held together by dark forces called morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons.
The symbol of Pelosium is PU.
Pelosium’s mass actually increases over time, as morons randomly interact with various elements in the atmosphere and become assistant deputy neutrons within the Pelosium molecule, leading to the formation of isodopes.
This characteristic of moron-promotion leads some scientist to believe that Pelosium is formed whenever morons reach a certain quantity in concentration.
Dude this is awesome and I’m stealing it
Be my guest, that is the reason I post such things, for all you to use at your disgression….
i laughed my fricken ASS OFF! but i just had an OH, SHIT moment when i made my wife read it….dead silence! yikes, what have i got myself into.
Butt, sorry to have gotten you in trouble, I never tell my wife to read what I post, EVER….
But my oldest daughter gets reading, and she thinks I am as funny on line as I try to be in real life…
Life is like eating a bunch of habanoro peppers, you may like them going down, but you know that you will pay for it later…..
If that makes sense????
people laugh at ME when they’re LOOKING at me. as far as trouble with my wife…she was clueless….didn’t realize the gravity of the situation…hee hee heeee!
It is closely related to Obamium, but Obamium has more morons and not as many peons.
Eppe, keep it coming. I fell out of my chair with your latest.
Why many preppers will DIE…
Cinnamon and Honey
Drug companies won’t like this one getting around. Facts on Honey and Cinnamon:
It is found that a mix of honey and Cinnamon cures most diseases. Honey is produced in most of the countries of the world. Scientists of today also note honey as very effective medicine for all kinds of diseases. Honey can be used without side effects which is also a plus.Today’s science says that even though honey is sweet, when it is taken in the right dosage as a medicine, it does not harm even diabetic patients. Researched by western scientists:
HEART DISEASES: Make a paste of honey and cinnamon powder, put it on toast instead of jelly and jam and eat it regularly for breakfast. It reduces the cholesterol and could potentially save one from heart attack. Also, even if you have already had an attack studies show you could be kept miles away from the next attack. Regular use of cinnamon honey strengthens the heart beat. In America and Canada, various nursing homes have treated patients successfully and have found that as one ages the arteries and veins lose their flexibility and get clogged; honey and cinnamon revitalize the arteries and the veins.
ARTHRITIS: Arthritis patients can benefit by taking one cup of hot water with two tablespoons of honey and one small teaspoon of cinnamon powder. When taken daily even chronic arthritis can be cured. In a recent research conducted at the Copenhagen University, it was found that when the doctors treated their patients with a mixture of one tablespoon Honey and half teaspoon Cinnamon powder before breakfast, they found that within a week (out of the 200 people so treated) practically 73 patients were totally relieved of pain — and within a month, most all the patients who could not walk or move around because of arthritis now started walking without pain.
BLADDER INFECTIONS: Take two tablespoons of cinnamon powder and one teaspoon of honey in a glass of lukewarm water and drink it. It destroys the germs in the bladder….who knew?
CHOLESTEROL: Two tablespoons of honey and three teaspoons of Cinnamon Powder mixed in 16 ounces of tea water given to a cholesterol patient was found to reduce the level of cholesterol in the blood by 10 percent within two hours. As mentioned for arthritic patients, when taken three times a day, any chronic cholesterol-could be cured. According to information received in the said Journal, pure honey taken with food daily relieves complaints of cholesterol.
COLDS: Those suffering from common or severe colds should take one tablespoon lukewarm honey with 1/4 spoon cinnamon powder daily for three days. This process will cure most chronic cough, cold, and, clear the sinuses, and it’s delicious too!
UPSET STOMACH: Honey taken with cinnamon powder cures stomach ache and also is said to clear stomach ulcers from its root.
GAS: According to the studies done in India and Japan, it is revealed that when Honey is taken with cinnamon powder the stomach is relieved of gas.
IMMUNE SYSTEM: Daily use of honey and cinnamon powder strengthens the immune system and protects the body from bacterial and viral attacks. Scientists have found that honey has various vitamins and iron in large amounts. Constant use of Honey strengthens the white blood corpuscles (where DNA is contained) to fight bacterial and viral diseases.
INDIGESTION: Cinnamon powder sprinkled on two tablespoons of honey taken before food is eaten relieves acidity and digests the heaviest of meals
INFLUENZA: A scientist in Spain has proved that honey contains a natural ‘Ingredient’ which kills the influenza germs and saves the patient from flu.
LONGEVITY: Tea made with honey and cinnamon powder, when taken regularly, arrests the ravages of old age. Use four teaspoons of honey, one teaspoon of cinnamon powder, and three cups of boiling water to make a tea. Drink 1/4 cup, three to four times a day. It keeps the skin fresh and soft and arrests old age. Life spans increase and even a 100 year old will start performing the chores of a 20-year-old.
RASPY OR SORE THROAT: When throat has a tickle or is raspy, take one tablespoon of honey and sip until gone. Repeat every three hours until throat is without symptoms.
PIMPLES: Three tablespoons of honey and one teaspoon of cinnamon powder paste. Apply this paste on the pimples before sleeping and wash it off the next morning with warm water. When done daily for two weeks, it removes all pimples from the root.
SKIN INFECTIONS:Applying honey and cinnamon powder in equal parts on the affected parts cures eczema, ringworm and all types of skin Infections.
WEIGHT LOSS:Daily in the morning one half hour beforebreakfast and on an empty stomach, and at night before sleeping, drink honey and cinnamon powder boiled in one cup of water. When taken regularly, it reduces the weight of even the most obese person. Also, drinking this mixture regularly does not allow the fat to accumulate in the body even though the person may eat a high calorie diet.
CANCER: Recent research in Japan and Australia has revealed that advanced cancer of the stomach and bones have been cured successfully. Patients suffering from these kinds of cancer should daily take one tablespoon of honey with one teaspoon of cinnamon powder three times a day for one month.
FATIGUE: Recent studies have shown that the sugar content of honey is more helpful rather than being detrimental to the strength of the body. Senior citizens who take honey and cinnamon powder in equal parts are more alert and flexible. Dr. Milton, who has done research, says that a half tablespoon of honey taken in a glass of water and sprinkled with cinnamon powder, even when the vitality of the body starts to decrease, when taken daily after brushing and in the afternoon at about 3:00 P.M., the vitality of the body increases within a week.
BAD BREATH: People of South America, gargle with one teaspoon of honey and cinnamon powder mixed in hot water first thing in the morning so their breath stays fresh throughout the day.
HEARING LOSS: Daily morning and night honey and cinnamon powder, taken in equal parts restores hearing.
Remember when we were kids? We had toast with real butter and cinnamon sprinkled on it!
No, a mixture of honey and cinnamon doesn’t cure most diseases. That’s ridiculous.
Cinnamon Hibiscus tea with lemon and honey, three cups a day can control blood pressure.
Thanks was awesome advice. Thanks for the tips and be well. Mark
I just saw a scientific article that studied vinegar as a disinfectant. They used a vinegar solution slightly more concentrated (at 6%) than the kind you buy at the store. It killed germs better then bleach, including drug resistant tuberculosis. They found the 25% solution was needed to get the toughest germs but commented that, even at that strength, it had fewer toxic problems than chlorine for the people using it.
I think many of us have probably been using vinegar in cleaning solutions for years but this was a nice confirmation of the practice.
I can’t speak to if cinnamon and honey work for all these cures but I can validate from personal experience that cinnamon helps. I was diagnosed with MS a couple years ago and the medicine I take reduces my white blood count (confirmed by bloodwork every 4 months). I am unable to get the flu shot because it interacts with the medicine. Everyday I have cinnamon in my oatmeal and while everyone at work is sick 2 to 3 times a year or more I am not(knock on wood). I started putting it in my husbands coffee to help with his diabetes 2 problem. There are studies out there that show cinnamon and honey help with all kinds of things. Modern day medicine isn’t always the answer, because of food allergies I don’t eat processed food which I believe causes more issues for the human body.
Dear Eppe (Comment I.D. #2959529): Regarding your list of great uses for honey & cinnamon, would you please be so kind as to send this info to me via my E-mail address? My only access to I-net is via the public library, so I “grab” something when I like it & send it to my E-Mail for review & study later. Being not-so-good with computers, I can’t quite figure out how to get your comment block from you to me. Thank you very much. P.S. There’s been talk of “counterfeiting” cinnamon in the past, as there has been with olive oil. I’ve got a reliable stock of good organic honey and olive oil, but no idea where to find A-1 organic cinnamon. Any suggestions or ideas as to a reputable supplier of such would also be greatly appreciated. Again, thank you very much. (Donald) [email protected]
Eppe, where do I buy REAL honey and cinnamon thes days.
Hi eppe….told this to my sis and she told me to make sure I used Ceylon cinnamon….the other can be quite toxic…Ceylon is from Ceylon..the other is from china, Vietnam…etc.
Good one, eppe.
We are preppers now. Survivalist later.
naw, not me i was a survivorilist 1st.
on a long enough timeline, all of them.
Pelosium–now that’s funny !! giggle giggle
Eppe I thought my Cuz’s head was the densest element in the Universe. And am I readin this right, you callin use morons, and are we really forming Pelosium? I thought she was from California!
Copy on that Vertical Smile. Cash is to grab last minute items and use for wall paper as OutWest suggested. The barter items are for later when things have settled down.
I don’t plan on bartering. I won’t trust anybody. I don’t want anyone to know that I have food. I don’t see the point in providing anyone with any food unless I plan to take them in for the duration of the collapse. Some people talk about providing hungry people with a meal and sending them on their way but to me that’s suicidal.
Exactly! We keep next to nothing in our accounts. I get the “Low balance” warning by the 2nd week of every month when my balance drops below $100. Also, buy silver. Gold if you can afford it. Remember the fiat money will be worthless once the implosion starts.
Band aids, Beans, Bullets….
Oh, and don’t keep anything in safe deposit boxes either! The feds have issued orders to all banks to lock down safe deposit boxes when the economy tanks.
Elections have consequences but hey at least he won a Nobel Peace Prize for…..oh wait! 😛
they gonna be rollin’ out a NEW nobel prize SOON…for EVIL, and you-know-who’s got a LOCK on it!
Yes, this is true…
Putin Nominated For Nobel Peace Prize
NY Daily News
Do you really still believe in “elections”?
I have some really cheap real estate for sale…
Nah, you just gotta make fun of the absurd sometimes.
Total BULLSHIT!!!! 🙂 And this is what I mean when I say that there is soooo much bullshit on Alt Media these days that it does a disservice to the Sheeple who do not know how the FED works, cannot think for themselves, and who may as well be listening to Hannity or Rachel Maddow if they want to be fed a bunch of BULLSHIT!!!
John Williams is NOT an analyst. At least he is not a very good one anyway. I respect his ability to adjust government statistical data, but a good Excel program will do that for you if you plug in the raw numbers.
Let’s remember that John Williams was screaming hyper-inflation a few years ago with the rest of the “Chicken Little’s” who did NOT understand what QE was all about: professionals in the Economics and Financial field who should have known better, but didn’t. Why not?
So why should WE believe these idiots now? 🙁
For months and months WE have been told that the financial world was going to end on March 4th 2014. It’s March 7th where I am at, where is the end of the world? I am sick of all of these ASSHOLES claiming that “collapse” is “just a round the corner”. Frankly, its time to arrest these ASSHOLES, I mean after all, its illegal to scream “FIRE!” in a theater isn’t it?
A recession, a second leg down, or even depression conditions, is NOT an economic collapse, ala a “Mad Max” scenario. Are WE likely to experience a continuing contraction of OUR economy? YES!!! Buckle up!!! But it is not the End of the World unless you jump from the 30th Floor.
The PTB have conspired with the Uber Rich and Gangster Banksters to transfer the wealth of the American Middle Class offshore under FREE TRADE. Under GWB 42,400 factories and 60 million jobs were lost. So YES, WE should blame George!!!
During O’bummer’s first term, another 15,000 factories and many tens of million of more jobs were lost to the theft of the American economy while 30 million illegals have been encouraged to invade the nation and be subsidized by the American worker, family, and taxpayer. So, YES, WE should blame the Half Breed, too.
At the very least these two imbeciles should be in jail for malfeasance in office, but frankly, I think they need to be indicted for TREASON!!! and then HUNG!!!
By rights DC should be burning with Congress in session. Any “collapse” would of necessity, have to be planned and deliberately caused. A “collapse” would mean that the banks have disappeared. In a “collapse” the Uber Rich would lose the most as they have the most to lose. THAT is NOT going to happen.
So buckle up, tighten your belt, suck it up, dig in, and toughen up. Organize, communicate, volunteer, donate, and vote. 2014 is an election year and your employees are listening. Give them an earful. Let your Barnhardt out, and make every ballot count.
Breathe. Relax. Aim. Slack. Squeeze. The answer to 1984 is 1776. 🙂
If the Russians “dumped” the 300 billion dollars in US Treasuries, and attempted to “flood the market” the FED would buy them back at a tremendous DISCOUNT!!! The Russians would lose money on the transaction that they cannot afford to loose.
$300 billion dollars in US Treasuries is CHUMP CHANGE for the FED, CHUMP CHANGE!!! The Russians couldn’t crash the US Dollar if the wanted too. 🙂
Another comparison to Zimbabwe. When are these FOOLS going to understand that the US is NOT Zimbabwe? LMAO!!! 🙂
…not yet, anyway, but they’re working on it…
The biggest difference between the US and Zimbabwe is that Zimbabwe had a black market in foreign currency. You could trade your Zim dollars for US dollars and you could still live. Once the US dollar is worthless in America everybody who isn’t prepared will starve.
After 5 years, John still does not understand that QE was not designed or intended to stimulate the economy, but to protect the banks while the economy is DE-LEVERAGED?
How dense IS he? 🙁
He knows a million times more than you do. Your economic knowledge is way below average.
QE is also used to fund the trillion dollar deficit. The Fed creates whatever money the treasury can’t borrow at artificially low interest rates.
BC: My economic and financial acuity has been demonstrated upon this comment section for 4 years. It speaks for itself. 🙂
You have said we already hat the collapse, it happened in 2008.
Louis: Yes I did and THAT collapse was planned. It was deliberate. Lehman could have been “saved”. Instead, for personal and financial reasons it was sacrificed.
Personal because the head of Lehman had previously refused to participate and follow orders from the FED. Financial because losses were mounting from the real estate bubble that was blowing and the handwriting was on the wall.
Lehman was sacrificed to scare the PTB into a bank bailout that continues unabated TO THIS DAY! The GB’s have staged a coup and with the 147 multinational corporations, now control government(s) in a way that they have never controlled it before.
Now they are too big to fail and QE is the plan to insure that they don’t. The theft of the American taxpayers dollar is complete. That is why deposits will never need a “haircut” in the USA to prop up the Banks and keep those tens of millions of dollars in salaries and bonuses coming.
Kill the FED. Death to the New World Order. 🙂
Poor DK… Trolling for the establishment can be a lonely business.
“16 trillion USD offshore”. These dollars are not going to be “dumped” all at once by everyone in the world. That is just asinine. China holds 1.2 trillion in reserve. Russia and China TOGETHER couldn’t crash the US economy, markets, or dollar. Its CHUMP CHANGE My peeps, CHUMP CHANGE in the scheme of things!!!
$16 trillion is the amount that the FED LOANED to other banks (including central banks) and major global corporations. These loans are supported by plant and equipment, real estate, and other corporate assets. Assets that would belong to the FED and thus the American people if these corporations defaulted.
I am starting to ask myself, why is there sooooo much BULLSHIT by Alt Media trying to convince everyone how “worthless” their dollars are, but want you to subscribe to their newsletter, or You Tube Channel to profit from the fear they serve you every day?
Put ten dollar bills in number ten cans! 🙂
DK . you are assuming rule of law .
What has been going on lately ?
Obama , Putin , NK or mid east following rule of law ?
hammerhead: Sadly, Putin has been following “Rule of Law” under signed agreements and treaties while the West has NOT, while using the LSM to spread pure propaganda to Americans to justify another “Color Revolution” sponsored by the NWO that has gone bad; because a Jewish ultra nationalist has obtained power in Ukraine and overthrown the rights of the MAJORITY.
What would you think as an English speaking American if Rubio or some other Hispanic American gained power through revolution and demonstration and then in one of his very first acts, “outlawed” English? 🙁
Putin Kills Kerry’s Plan For Ukraine
IF HUMILIATION DICTATES US foreign policy, it can only respond with spite.
Kerry’s jew Ridden State Department has done just that, letting resentment dictate the framework for diplomacy by imposing visa restrictions on unidentified ‘Russian officials’ for supposedly ‘threatening the sovereignty of Ukraine.’
(It’s hard to bite with false teeth…so find some way to get back at those so-and-so’s.)
It’s a you-spoiled-my-party retaliation against Putin for taking the spoils in the aftermath of Kerry’s coup de’etat in Kiev. …”It’s my party and I’ll throw a tantrum if I want to.”
In a stunning grassroots development, Putin’s garland shot forth new petals today with the near unanimous vote
of Crimea’s parliament to join the Russian Federation and pushing up the upcoming referendum
on Crimea’s status from March 30 to March 16.
With shouts of “Russia, Russia!” the residents of Simferopol, the capital of Crimea, cheered the vote with smiles of euphoria.
But with humiliation running high in the western part of Ukraine, a court in Kiev ruled that the Crimean parliament’s actions are ‘illegal.’
An arrest warrant was issued for the new prime minister of Crimea, Sergei Aksyonov, whose political party is aptly called Russian Unity. Good luck catching him with militias surrounding him!
Just today, the Ukrainian Central Election Commission
ordered that access to the voter database in the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, which is expected to hold a referendum on its status on March 16, be blocked.
That oughta crank up the Crimeans real good!
Let’s make Ukraine “safe for democracy!” Just what jew bi**h Nuland ordered!
If Kiev had adhered to the EU-brokered Feb.21st agreement the Autonomous Republic of Crimea (ARC) would have remained in Ukraine as a federated republic.
But now, the ARC will likely federate with Moscow upon referendum outcome, and like dominoes, East/South Ukraine will either press for full autonomy or seek to join the ARC.
Either way…Putin wins, Kerry loses.
FROM: March 6th, article at: www dot realjewnews dot com
Check out the Great Photos there of Kerry’s face at tail end of a Donkys ass! VS. Putin doing Karate High side kicks while sparing with an karate opponent!
With a rebel Yellen, she cried “moar, moar, moar…”
But will she run out of collateral to exchange for FRNs from the primary dealers? Or is that what the new sub prime auto loan securities are for?
What good collateral does Janet have? MBS junk? It’s all a paper shuffling scam anyway…there’s only worthless “mark to fantasy” junk in them thar Fed vaults.
Buncha accounting shenanigans to defraud the world…and I don’t need my aluminum colander on my head to see that.
“$16 trillion is the amount that the FED LOANED to other banks (including central banks) and major global corporations. These loans are supported by plant and equipment, real estate, and other corporate assets. Assets that would belong to the FED and thus the American people if these corporations defaulted.”
These assets would belong to the share holders of the PRIVATE Fed which are the TBTF Banks if they were to provide a “profit”… If they were to NOT cover the loan loses, then they would belong to the USSA tax payer because by Charter, the Fed CANNOT lose money on their “investments” and the USSA Treasury would have to eat the loses…
In other words.. Privatize the profits and Socialize the loses…
CC: When the FED makes a “profit” it returns that profit to the US Treasury. Last Fiscal Year, if my memory serves me correctly, that amount was $89 billion. Again CHUMP CHANGE.
Otherwise, I would agree with your statement. However, QE is all about replacing the losses of the Member Banks. That is its purpose and intent; so yes, the FED and its member banks never really lose money.
Any benefit to the national economy is purely co-incidental. 🙁
DK -” These loans are supported by plant and equipment, real estate, and other corporate assets. ”
My point was in a WROL situation , who’s gonna be able to collect these “assets”?
Not to mention , when money is loaned against these assets , there is an appraisal ,and that appraisal is really quite subjective and based on current value.
When the economy pops , who would buy those assets from the fed after a default? They would need to be auctioned.
Those assets would be near worthless.
All guarrantees are gone , do you see my point?
The federal reserve does not return profits to the U.S. The fed buys treasuries and when they redeem, we pay them back the value of the bonds plus a premium a.k.a interest). From our prospective, that is called debt service. You, know, that good ole national debt clock. By the way, a significant percentage of that amount on the debt clock is what we the people owe the federal reserve.
The Feds role is to control the money supply. I.e. Create and destroy money.
You are right in that the economy did collapse in 2008. Quantitative Easing (QE) is like a parachute in that it masks the collapse. The collapse is permanent as confirmed in September of 2012 with the announcement of QE Infinite.
QE Infinite (QE3) signifies a continuous creation of money with no destruction of money. That is why we create 75 – 85 billion dollars of new money every month.
Cell Spyder. I stand by my statement that the FED returns a profit to the US Government every year. Not much, and not nearly to compensate US enough for controlling OUR money and using it to their advantage.
Last Fiscal Year the FED returned $89 Billion in profit to the US Government. 🙂
You are incorrect when you state that dollars are not being destroyed. Dollars are being destroyed with every home that is now underwater, every business bankrupt, and every loan that has been defaulted upon. Deflation destroys dollars.
The wealth of the Middle Class has been destroyed or transferred to the GB’s. Bank losses are being replaced by QE. Losses to the Middle class are not being replaced by QE. Those losses to the Middle class represents destroyed dollars. 🙁
Hammerhead: WROL? Please define, I do not understand what it stands for. 🙁
Yes, an appraisal is conducted on real estate, plant and equipment for small businesses, but for Multinational Corporations and other banks who are the recipients of these loans, funds are loaned via a revolving credit facility, ie line of credit. “LTV” is not used.
This credit facility for major corporations is based upon stock pe ratio, historical earnings, current revenue, sales, balance and income statements, and credit rating.
These assets will have some value as they always do in a BK and the secured Banksters get first bite. That is one of the Rules. Losses will be deducted against other bank earnings and these assets eventually sold.
These assets have significant value that could and would eventually be recouped and would only be “worthless” in the event of a nuclear war. 🙁
EVERY FIAT CURRENCY IN HISTORY HAS ULTIMATELY BEEN REDUCED TO ITS INTRINSIC VALUE (which is the paper on which it’s printed)…..EVERY ONE.
Putting ten dollar bills into number 10 cans will ultimately simply be a waste of number 10 cans. But I guess you could use those ten dollar bills to start a fire to keep you warm. Use the ten dollar bills to start it…and then add your other paper assets like bonds and T-bills to keep it going.
Ultimately, the dollar is backed by “the full faith and credit of the United States”…..which is built upon……what?
By your own admission, we have exported our jobs and industry. We don’t make anything anymore. We consume. MOST of our economy is based on consumption. The closest thing we have to actual production, is service industries…which usually support stuff that’s made someplace else.
You can do that for a while….just like you can live off your credit cards for a while when you lose your job. But eventually it catches up with you.
At this point, the dollar is the best looking horse in the glue factory. But China, Russia, Iran…and others….are working on it.
Your whole economic theory is based on those nations (our enemies) failing to unseat the dollar as the world’s reserve currency…and that the Fed will be able to continue to create fiat dollars that will actually be worth something…….while our own government does everything it can to assist the collapse by its policies of spending our children’s future earnings and policing the world.
ANON: Yes every fiat currency in history has succumbed to the ravages of war and the movements of history. The USD will be no different in that respect, eventually.
But not now. Now it is still the world reserve currency used by the Uber Rich and the NWO. The only thing that will change that is nuclear war, massive solar flare, or Pole Shift.
And while it is still the “best looking horse in the glue factory” as you describe it, it is better than any other currency, except maybe the Swiss Franc. There are not enough SF in circulation to be a world reserve currency.
The Yuan has been the great hope of those with dollar envy but the Chinese have printed seven times the number of Yuan as compared to the number of dollars printed, within the same time frame.
80% of the dollars printed by the FED has gone to the Member Banks reserve account balance sheets to protect against future losses. It is not in circulation.
China has printed 7 times the number of dollars in the same time frame and its Central bank is not covering for losses (YET) so that currency has been injected into the Chinese Economy. That bubble is bursting as we type. How many Yuan will have to be printed to paper over the losses of Chinese banks when they create their own QE program to protect their banks?
I don’t think I want to own Yuan. It is not yet a world reserve currency and a lot has to happen before that occurs. 🙂
I see a slight problem with your reasoning on this. “Assets that would belong to the FED and thus the American people if these corporations defaulted.” The FED is a PRIVATE BANK!!
How exactly would these assets end up with the American people???
KH: Yes the FED is privately owned. The FED paid the US Government $89 billion dollars in profit last Fiscal Year. That is not my reasoning. That is a statement of fact. Check it.
I am not privy to the details but evidently the FED does pay for their use of OUR Money. Too little and too late but that is a fact and surprised me when I read it last year.
The assets would “end up with the American people” when they are foreclosed upon, disposed of, and the “profit” from FED operations are returned to the US Government at the end of the Fiscal Year. 🙁
What about “Special Drawing Rights”?
The Russians could start a dollar and treasury bond panic. The Fed doesn’t “buy” them back in the normal sense. All they can do is create more money out of thin air.
BC: Not true at all, which evidences how little you know about the topic: which is even less than John Williams. Russia would have to sell to some other nation directly who would want a major discount, or it would have to sell the Treasuries to a Prime Dealer (FED Member Bank or Wall Street) for a DISCOUNT!
The more they sell the BIGGER the discount!!! 🙂
Stick to knitting and prepping; you don’t know SHIT about global finance !!! 🙂
DK, can’t you make your point without insults?
NO. I refuse to suffer ignorance that repeatedly passes itself off as an expert witness. 🙂
well, he does rant a lot! Lord, tired of trying to read all of the rhetoric!
my reply was to you about durango kidd.
No, he can’t. And what’s sad is that he talks about being a Christian. Of course, anyone can talk about it.
It seems to me….
That discount would apply to anyone else trying to sell, also. So the entire world’s holdings of American debt would be degraded, encouraging some, maybe all, to dump before it became worthless. The rush to sell would be almost impossible to contain.
If the Fed were to monetize the debt by buying up the Treasuries, the dollar would flood the market and most likely would cause the value to tumble, perhaps catastrophically.
Hmmm. Am I missing a step?
They could decide to only redeem Treasuries that have matured. You would then be stuck selling them on the open market at market rates. This would keep dollars from flooding the market.
Ron J: Why would you assume that “everyone” would rush to sell? That is a really big assumption! Who is “everyone”? That is just another Internet Meme constantly repeated by those who are wanting you to buy their fear with your dollars! LMAO!! 🙂
Every seller must have a buyer for a transaction to occur. The FED is under NO obligation to redeem Treasuries before maturity, so why would it “monetize” these bonds by buying them back, and “flood the market with dollars”?
The point that you are missing and the point that so many here are missing, is that the Dollar is the currency of the NWO, BY CHOICE.
All of the western nations and member nations of every major trading organization is locked into the dollar, BY CHOICE. Its their currency. It is the lifeblood of the New World Order.
It is the currency of the top 25 banks in the world and 147 major corporations who control 60% of the world’s commerce, who make their profit using it.
There is simply NO alternative to it at this time and despite the protests of some with dollar envy in Asia and South America, it is the FUEL that runs the world’s economy.
If you want to worry about hyper-inflation and world economic collapse, worry about China and its Yuan. They have printed 7 times the number of Yuan as the FED has printed dollars in in the same amount of time!!!
If the China Bubble bursts ……. 🙁
You don’t know what you are talking about DK,if they buy them back at a tremendous discount then that means that there would be a flash crash in treasuries.They would have to buy a bunch more than just Russia’s
NSS: First, the FED is under NO OBLIGATION to buy them back and need not do so until MATURITY. So if Russia is holding 30 year bonds they are pissing in the wind. So much for your “flash crash” theory. Its toast !!!
If Russia holds euro Dollars (USD outside of the USA) then they need to purchase something with them to get rid of them; but whatever they purchased (say bananas from Central America) would do NOTHING to collapse the dollar. NOTHING!!! 🙂
If the Russians try to sell US Bonds in the “open market”, or directly to another nation or corporation or investor; the Russians would have to discount the bonds to move them.
The greater the amount they try to sell, the greater the loss. Only Apple or Exxon would have the cash to do so as a single buyer. Or, let’s suppose that Japan agreed to buy $100 million in Treasuries at a discount from Russia. What would Russia get in return? Japanese bonds? LMAO!!! 🙂
Let’s assume for a moment that EVERYONE tried to dump their bonds at once, as YOU believe could happen, I assume because Alt media pushes this meme as a prescription for fear. (You might want to ask yourself what THEIR agenda is in pushing “collapse”.)
To whom would those bonds be sold if EVERYONE were selling them and trying to dump them? To what would the sellers flee if the could dump them? Gold? Not enough gold or PMG’s to go around. Gold ETF’s? LMAO!!! Euros? LMAO!!!
The fact IS that while US bonds, like the dollar are not backed by gold anymore, they do facilitate global commerce and if it did not exist then another global currency would be required to be the world reserve currency of choice.
And the supply of that currency would have to be as liquid, fungible, convertible, and in as great a demand as the dollar. Be grateful that it is the dollar that is the WRC.
Imagine if there were a political and financial entity like the World Bank governed by a Global Authority other than the FED; say the UN for example. How much better would your life be then? 🙂
Can we all get along?
Don’t know where this response will show up but in reply to Russia ruining the USA stock market or the dollar just use a little math. All of USA agriculture production is valued in billions of dollars. If the Russians and Chinese spent a few hundred billions buying up just wheat we would have no bread on shelves or if they bought a hundred billion dollars of corn, milk and meat prices would be so high the average person would do without.
What I am getting at is if these trading partners turned trading enemies, and redeemed their dollars in preps of food and medicine instead of catipillar equipment then they could indeed have a devastating effect maybe not on our economy but for sure our very basic way of life. If they bought all our food to redeem their dollars and then sold our food to the rest of the world at a loss then our lack of tradable goods would make the rest of the world dependent on them instead of us. In the past we used cheap grain as a more effective weapon in world trade than bullets. With our poor free trade policy we have weakened our dollar to the point where our most effective weapon could be used against us in the form of poverty and unrest internally and lack of influence globally.
Kinda like Nixon said to the world?
“It’s our dollar…but your problem.”
Numbnuts, the article says Russia couldn’t collapse it by themselves. At the right moment, they may be able to start a stampede. If Chine joins in the panic, that would end up being a stressful day for USA.
Louis: They cannot start a stampede by “dumping dollars” on the currency exchanges, because those currency exchanges are run by Prime Dealers with a VESTED INTEREST in the NWO Global Financial System, who would suck them up like a hoover as the price dropped and make a profit from them.
The USD IS the currency of the New World Order. It facilitates the interlocking global trading system, that supports and defends Europe, Japan, and a host of smaller nations through NAFTA, GATT, and the WTO.
The Trans Pacific Partnership will seal the deal globally. If you are not part of it under Rules promulgated by the NWO, you will be on the outside looking in with your nose pressed to the glass and salivating while those that are members feast on the resources and labor of the world, using the Dollar.
Membership has its privileges. That is the ugly truth. 🙁
Louis: China has BIG enough financial problems of its own, particularly the excessive printing of its own money: about 7 times the number of dollars printed during the same time.
Those US Government bonds are going to look real good in the Chinese treasury when its currency collapses from hyper-inflation as the China Bubble is punctured and its economy tanks!!! LMAO!!!
That is happening now, in real time, so if you believe the FED is “printing” too many dollars, why don’t all of you USD naysayers rush out and exchange your dollars for Yuan NOW!!! RUN!!! DON”T WALK !!! RUN!!!
Then when China backs its currency with gold to give it value again, and the value of its currency rebounds, you can exchange that Yuan for gold, while the Gold Window is open. LMAO!!! 🙂
Despite your ,and everyone else s, proclaimed prowess in the world of geo economics,I must conclude that none of us, myself included, have not a clue as to what will pan out nor are any of us here (and elsewhere) privy to any of the machinations of the fed, world bank,imf,etc..
All is just conjecture on past performance and deeds, as well as current workings..
Everyone, including John Williams, to whom I have at least some respect,have an opinion…period.
Had any of us a clue to what’s occurring now, or about to, none of us would be here posting and commenting.
These world bankers have played the globe for centuries with their well orchestrated play book..caused the slaughter of tens of millions of innocents,collapsed economies ten fold, and continue their game as we speak.
They control the worlds players,politicians,corporations and armed forces…
They have aligned themselves with the dark side..luciferian bastards..all of them
Enjoy the day..
Meanwhile back in Ukraine!
A BRIDGE TOO FAR
WHILE THE SELF-IMPOSED Illegitimate regime in Kiev begs for money from Jews of the IMF, Putin is building a bridge between Russia and Crimea.
Pressing ahead with plans to build the “Kerch Bridge” across the Kerch Straits linking Russia with Crimea, the geopolitical prize goes to Putin while Kerry’s jew-ridden State Department knashes its teeth. (Map of bridge ukraine site is at article website)
While the region is legally leased from the Ukraine government, yet as the political spoils tilt toward Moscow, instead of a Ukraine-Russia set up, it will be a Crimea-Russia Bridge Authority arrangement, and Christian Putin takes all.
For with the prospect that Ukraine will lose
Odessa, (their other seaport), Kiev will be left completely landlocked.
What Kerry and Nato would ideally like to do with an intact Ukraine is take over the bases in Crimea, and the Black Sea would become a virtual NATO lake.
But with Crimea likely to become a federated republic of the RF….as a Russian platform it will check Nato in Romania, Bulgaria, and Turkey, as well as any possible Nato bases set up in Ukraine itself.
An anti-NATO missile base in Crimea would also check NATO’s missile base aspirations in Moldavia and Georgia.
Simply put, Putin is building a bridge too far for jew-ruled Nato to counter.
“God Protected” Putin wins again!
FROM: Final Part of March 6th, 2014 article at:
www dot realjewnews dot com
Brother Nathanial has a Way with words eh!
As a Former, Born, Bred, Lifelong NY jewish man, who has Converted to Orthodox Christianity, 20+ years ago, if Anybody should have the Inside track on jews, zionists, and How they operate, Lie, Scam, Swindle and of course always Whine of how they and Only They are the worlds only Victims that Matter…It is Bro Nate eh!
His life’s Journey has taken him from the NY jewish talmudic Synagouges of Satan since Birth, to a Vast conversion to christianity that very Few of the Tribe has done. At least done sinceraly and honestly so.
Nice to have one like him that is Unafraid to speak and write facts that lead to Truth, which unfortunatly we see too little of in Todays MSM medias, and fed govnt’s who cannot seem to shake off their massive Jew-Fears, and their group think Fears of touching what can only be called the 3rd Rail of PC-Correctness. That “jew” word!
All America needs Now is for its massive two hundred Million Christian folks to Do as Christ Commanded they do…SEEK & SPEAK the TRUTH! What Say You christians of USA?
Bad Zios! Bad Zios! Watcha gonna Do when they Comes for you! bad zios, Bad zios watcha gonna Do when They comes for YOU?!
ZOG on the Run! ZOG on the RUN! and the, Militia Men & sailor man searched for evermore, for those ZOG’s on the Run! Gots to love Paul McCartney and Wings eh!
1000+ thumbs up!
Posse: You have an “opinion” because you are a “chef”. I am a Finance professional with 40 years of experience, some of it near the top of the banking echelon, who possesses the education, experience, and special expertise that qualifies me as an “expert witness” in Court. Any Court.
That’s the difference between your opinion and mine with respect to global finance. John Williams should know better, but obviously he does not. You would think in five years time he would begin to grasp reality. sadly, he hasn’t.
If I need to know how high my fire should be to stir fry my vegetables, I’ll call you. 🙂
DK,some other number answers are:.223/.308/.45,hell the list of number answers is very long if one thinks about it!The answer then is to have some of these numbers along with many other items!
Thoughts on CT
The cops and politicians are freaking out at the thought that the serfs don’t have to go quietly. The cops are well aware of what happens when the serfs don’t sit home while they “stack up” outside. They have TV, and are well aware that Americans are much more heavily armed than the peasants in Ukraine. As they try to clamp down harder, more people see the peril in disarming. The day will come when the anti self defense gang will speak in whispers and cower at the thought of being found out.
Louis: With their Anti-Gun Leader aka Prune Faced Sarah Brady…How can the, Final Solution outcome be any different than as you stated eh! “they will speak in whispers and cower”!!
Sarah Bradys latest prune faced tv commercial: “Today the Pitts….Tomorrow…The…WRINKLES!” brought to tvland by the Sunshine Corp.!
But can’t we re-structure on a sound basis and bounce back? If the FED would be eradicated by the collapse, it wouldn’t be all bad. Isn’t there a positve lining somewhere?
Eventually. But it there will be hell to pay first. Now way around it.
No, there isn’t a silver lining. 90% of Americans will die in the year following the collapse. America will become a police state. TPTB want open borders because once the government regains control of the country they plan on instituting soviet-style collective farming. They want Mexicans here to do the work. I expect the American collapse to lead to a worldwide economic collapse. I expect that to be followed by the one-world government prophesied in Revelation.
OK, so how does the Ukraine situation collapse the US economy? It’s already failing due to our own debt loads and recession/depression. The stock market has been due for a crash anytime now.
The link between Ukraine and our problems isn’t making sense for me.
I’m blaming Obama, not the Russians. If this is all it takes, Russia would have done it 5 years ago. They have as much to lose as we do and are going downhill themselves, like every nation with a central bank.
It’s the idea that Russia and China could cause a run on treasuries and a run on the dollar. I would expect any action by Russia to include China.
Even if that doesn’t happen, our economy will still eventually collapse and the dollar will eventually be worthless.
we are all going to diiiieeeee!!!!
Checked the availability of 7.62×39 today? Trekker Out. Semper Paratus!
wondering-what would happen to the debt people owe such as mortgages, loans etc..if banks collapse, would the collectors/repossesors come calling or would this be lost in the mess ?
And I used to think Obama was smart… We are toast.
my my my- chicken little
Prepper tip of the day…
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Here’s another great tip of the day: KEEP YOU BLOWER SHUT ABOUT WHAT YOU HAVE!!!
Ky Mom….I have found that heirlooms seeds do not germinate well. One would need to double their stash of heirlooms. My germination rate was about 50 %. I had to replant 3 times until I finally got frustrated and went to Lowe’s for organic seeds (that grew like gangbusters.) Finally found on a gardening site that this was true and not just my imagination.
Just an FYI.
Dear ed: It’s not Chicken Little. Years ago people knew what would happen eventually, only all the details were not very clear but they knew the general direction that they were going. Now that things have happened and are continuing to happen, the scary details are become very evident. It’s like driving down a road and you can see a danger sign ahead but you don’t know exactly what the danger is until you are right there and ready to drive off a cliff. We are right there at the end of that road.
Your comment reminds me of a dream I had awhile back… I was driving to my brother’s place and there was collapsed buildings and refuse on both sides of the road– everywhere I looked, I saw things had collapsed. And in front of me, I saw more collapse and damage. Well, recently, I moved to my brother’s… and all anyone sees is collapse.
Sad isn’t it? I worked for US DoD for about 25 years… over two decades as a Federally Protected Whistle-Blower.
I have been trying to tell people for a long time how corrupt the whole debacle in D.C. is…now the corruption has migrated all across the nation..as has the garbage-up roads…collapsing bridges and roads,destroyed oil-drills, platforms…etc…
Webster Groves – The Life of an Insane family
I just checked out your book. Looks interesting! I noticed you have a few trolls on Amazon writing bad reviews of your book. Seems like trolls abound everywhere we go. I just bought a hard copy of your book. Looking forward to reading it!
why are you here, ed?
you guys that are calling us chicken littles are making yourselves look downright FOOLISH! an IDIOT, or possibly even a CONGRESSMAN could figger out what’s about to happen to US.
Buttcrack, ed might be another troll.
If ed is a troll….he is not a very good one…must be still in training…or, not a troll, just a kid….
FOB, I hate to say it, but Eisen was damned good as a troll.
Dang, sounds like you miss him………say it ain’t so. Just funnin’ with you BH! Carry on!
Eisen will be back. Bet on it. But he will not be a troll the second time around.
he’ll be the first one at your door begging you to spare a ‘little chicken’ for his starving kids. that is, if he makes it to your door with his head still on his neck. people like him are exactly why I will have a ‘no charity’ rule.
ed must be another troll.
Do you mean the Little Red Hen? A story that should be required reading in grade school!
Your little chicken what, Ed?
@Ed yes, keep thinking that, but pretty soon it’s all going to come down and you’ll be running around like a chicken with its head cut off.
Or running around like a head with it’s chicken cut off
Be Ready! Or in other words; “STAND TO”.
EDC, BOB, INCH. Look at it as your Survival Bag.
– Must be available at all times
– Must contain those essential items that you would need to sustain life indefinitely
– Must be portable. The individual must be able to carry these essential items for an indefinite period of time (Days, weeks, months, or even years)
– If you have to “WALK” away at a second’s notice with no guarantee of making it to your bug out site, home, cache, or any pre-planned location
– Your Gear should be the best you can afford. Not necessarily the most expensive. But the BEST you can afford. Your life WILL depend on it!
– Two Is One, One Is None
– “IF YOU CAN CARRY IT ALL!”
Stay tuned to this and other prep sites. Make sure ALL your COMMS are up and monitored 24/7.
Good advice , do not forget to include self defense items suitable for the evac scenario.
Concealment and stealth if not a total SHTF collapse scenario , suitable handgun kept out of site and the ability to move fast and quietly . If a full bore breakdown occurs grab your body armor , go bag and a battle rifle, it isn’t going to matter at this point once the festivities start.
Make sure your gear includes the essentials for Water , shelter, protection and food.
Keep it light not exceeding a 40 lb max load out to allow for high speed egress.
Replace your items with equivalent titanium ones for reduced weight . The ideal pack size for being fast and light is around 40 liters 2400 CI in capacity. You can augment the size with add ons.
At this point you should have most of your preps if not accelerate your Aquisition .
As you said get the best gear you can afford my choice for a high speed battle proven GOOD bag is a kifaru express molle with a detachable kifaru e and e bag . All my gear where possible , canteens , cups stoves etc are titanium for weight reduction. Invest in good gear I, ESEE makes very good survival gear that is moderately priced and is exceptionally rugged.
Invest in a good sleeping system you can not beat the us military sleep system. It contains a patrol bag good to down 32,degrees , an intermediate bag good down to 0 degrees when used with the goretext bivy , total system combined is good to -40 . These are not exactly light weight but are tough and dependable and will not fail under field use.
Shelter system in winter I use a kifaru paratarp with a para stove ( small wood stove for tent use)
Total shelter and stove weight is under 6 lbs. I have used this combo down to 10 degrees and it kept the paratarp at 70 degrees! A really good well thought out system. A lot of kifaru gear is being used by recon elements in Afghanistan by special operation groups. you can only go 3 hours in extreme conditions before seeking shelter.another shelter alternative is a Hennessy hammock I have an explorer extreme for when I do nut want to carry the paratarp.
Water try to include 3 methods of purifity water you can only go,for 3 days without access to water. I use a Katadyne pocket filter ( good for 13000) gallons ) its built like a tank. I also,use a steri pen with a solar charging case , third option purification tablet aqua pure. I also recommend a way to boil water for purification , I have a titanium canteen and canteen cup system produced by Heavy Cover.it has to be seen to be believed.
Provide 3 methods to,produce fire , NATO matches , EESE ferro fire starter with tinder, solar fire starter ( tinder hot solar fire starter by solo scientific ) comes in a metal tin. I also have a fire piston , you can also include an esbit or ember lite stove for field cooking when safe to do so .
Have 3 pair of socks minimum,( smart wool ) change and rotate when wet. and appropriate undergarments ( under armor makes very good poly blend underwater) pack lightweight rain gear columbia makes a very packable version. You do not want to be cold and wet.
Have appropriate durable clothing and good boots ( DANNER us made recommended)
Have a PFAK with trauma bandages , first aid supplies and a CAT turniquet .
Tactical Taylor makes a very good load bearing belt system I have their fight light line using a riggers belt,with suspenders , you can get molle pouches to suit your needs.
Resonable body armor can be obtained from Infidel Body Armor owned and operated by a veteran. I have their viper model with level III rifle plates.
The main thing is read and educate you self now and practise with your gear be you need to,deploy it in a hostile environment. Keep it up to date and ready to go you may only have minutes to evac from your present location , be adaptable.
In my previous posts I have out lined how to escape and evade to friendly lines.
Use the search function at shtf plan to locate these posts.
Survival is 15 % Gear , 15 % experience and 70% mindset.
Your mind is your most valuable prep.
Semper Fi 8541
NB, how long have you had that Katadyne? I’ve been thinking of getting one and have read the reviews. Some have complained of seal failure. Your thoughts?
8 years on this one ,
An older one took a bullet in Gulf War 1 had it stored in my assault pack that filter was of an unknown age it was issued to us, every once in a while non US produced gear is appropriated by private purchas for the troops that item has no domestic produced counter part upon approval of the local command authority.
You have to disassemble clean and dry before storage , lube all of the seals with the silicone grease do not use petroleum based grease it will degrade the seals . In winter place in a plastic bag keep in your sleeping bag at night to prevent freezing it will crack the filter if this occurs .
Once a year dissassemble and inspect all seals replace any that look dried out ot have nicks in he surface of the seal , you can get replacement sets from Katadyne or as an emergency alternative use an appropriate O ring .
The filter does come with a lifetime guarantee and Katadyne does recognize it.
This filter system has been around for about 40 years I used one in the military and bought my own being impressed with the durability it’s an all aluminum / stainless steel construction.
Expensive but worth it , 2 filters in reserve will provide a life time of service.
Semper Fi 8541
??? mine is plastic?
Thanks for the info NB!
+1 on the Tactical Taylor, got my vest and pouches from them. Eagle industries belt and Eberlestock gunsheaths to carry the long guns on my main frame pack.
12 years on mine. crossed the carson iceburg wilderness 3 times with it. Used it last month…same filter.
A good item for your survival bag is Great Value trail mix from Wal-Mart. It weighs a pound and has a total of 4,000 calories.
– Must contain those essential items that you would need to sustain life indefinitely
-My HOUSE isn’t that big. What it does contain is a bridge supply of resources to keep me going while I transition to the new reality. This includes the tools I will need to build more resources.
Any portable version will have to be VERY carefully chosen to provide the bridge as well as the tools, and you will need to be in shape if you expect it to sustain you indefinitely. To my mind, a bag is to get me to a place where I can develop (or un-cache)more resources and rebuild.
Ordo ab Chao is their play. They want to get the useless eaters begging for a microchip and a one child policy. As for the collapse, one thing or another will eventually bring it all down.
DK: Does make a Good point when he asks the Same thing I asked….”Why is it that the only group telling us all a collapse is immenant, are Also trying to relieve You of Your soon to be Worthless U.S.Dollars, by selling You Stuff in Exchange for Your soon worthless us dollars”?
Why if collapse is so close, and us dollars are the worst thing one can hold onto, are They so eager to seperate you from your us dollars? What good will us dollars do Them when worthless?
Everybody seems to just Ignore this question, and red thumbs it…I think its a great question.
And one Must admit in every article, every video, by every so called “expert” advisor or economic “expert” each is Selling stuff, and selling it all for US Dollars.
Red thumbs do not answer it, and won’t make it go away.
It is a very Valid question. They All cry us dollars will soon Crash to zero value…so SEND ME US Dollars!
Nobody else is saying it, and they who are have been totally wrong everytime. For a decade or longer!
Personally I do not see an entire Global crash and collapse shut down of entire world. Thats absurd.
Especially for the folks who Owns the Most to lose and it is also them who Controls the entire world or very close to all the world now.
It would be real swell if a few doomers who sell stuff for us dollars would visit SHTF and Answer this question eh…..And we Can basicaly Rule Out any notions of they worry for us folks well being! Since a vast majority are Libertarians and Ayn Randers with that ever present attitude of “As Long as I got MINE…Screw all Others!”
I’d wager that if I were to aproach anybody here on the street, and tell them “us dollars will soon have ZERO worth or value! so hurry Hurry and trade with me Your us dollars for my “stuff I sell”….Every person here would think I am some type hypocrite or just plain Loonybin.
Would anyone here like me or Trust what i said any better if I also told you i had my Own Website too?
A true wonderment of sorts no?
WHY SELL STUFF for USD? Cause life goes on right up until that day.
I worry alot about an EMP , for instance , forget the dollar , at least for awhile thereafter.
So we still need long term supplies so it really dont matter if some of this is fearmongering.
Remember that every bit of disinfo has at least a small bit of truth in it to be believable.
Anyway them dollars will be converted to something so the more ya got your still ahead.
no I do not buy that at all. They most all are selling Gold. All who sell Gold say gold is very Rare not enough to go around now and worse even later. Then they are trying to Part with their rare gold supplies in exchange for dollars they claim soon be worthless. That makes zero logic or sense at all.
If they really believ what they tell You to believe on a soon collapse of us dollars, the Last thing any will part with is Their Gold. yet Gold is what They hawk more than all else.
So do we really care about an ECONOMIC Collapse?
I have done all the preps and my stuff will outlive me. When the big department stores shut down, so what! The grocery stores will soon have inflated prices so get ready to plant and store goods. Flea market vegetables have jumped in price. Most baskets up a $1.00. Higher prices being past on to the consumer.
What we should think about if an economic collapse happens is number one, Who will have a job? Second what is the paper money going to be worth. The power plant worker and police will be around. The worth of the paper money will adjust to find its own value. Going to the flea markets for years the prices have been going up. Slowly. Now for certain items, tools for one item, they are twice the price you use to pay. Very little room to bargain. Could tool pricing become like ammo prices?
Get to know the true value of material and how to trade or barter. Another item to think about is the change in your pockets. Some may take even this composite junk instead of paper dollars. Pennies before 1981 and nickels before 2014. Hmmmmmmm.
People who sell gold are believers in precious metals and they know hyperinflation is coming. Steve Quayle is an example.
You wouldn’t go to some gun show filled with preppers and think they’re scamming you to buy guns, would you?
….”Why is it that the only group telling us all a collapse is immenant, are Also trying to relieve You of Your soon to be Worthless U.S.Dollars, by selling You Stuff in Exchange for Your soon worthless us dollars”?
Because for RIGHT NOW….dollars are still the medium of exchange.
How do you know but what they are taking the dollars you send them and converting them into hard assets? You infer that they are being hypocrites because they want you pay for the information and advice they provide.
Your argument is a red herring.
The point those of us who say that the dollar is worthless, is that its INTRINSIC value is worthless. It offers no store of value beyond the willingness of the general population to accept it for payment for goods and services.
Historically…..ALL fiat currencies have reverted to their intrinsic value….which is the paper on which they are printed.
HARD ASSETS are a store of value because they are of use to someone. Again….historically, gold, silver and other precious metals have maintained that value, because someone, somewhere HAS been willing to provide goods or services to obtain them. It’s as simple as that.
Of course, in a SHTF situation….or at least the initial stages of a SHTF situation, even PM’s may not have much value as compared to things that are necessary for survival at the moment. But EVENTUALLY….some medium of exchange is established that doesn’t require you to carry all of your possessions around with you in order to trade. THAT is why PM’s have always been recognized as REAL money. There is an objective way to determine the value of them relative to the things people want and need. There’s nothing magical about PM’s being what has historically been the fallback means of trade. It’s just logical. PM’s are portable and easily verified as being trustworthy.
The value of our fiat dollar is ultimately determined by the world’s acceptance of the “full faith and credit of the United States”. Anyone who is paying attention can see that the basis for that “full faith and credit” is eroding rapidly. We don’t make anything anymore….We consume. All we have to offer the world is our consumption. And we offer fiat dollars with no intrinsic value as payment for their goods and services.
This is not sustainable. And anyone who says it is…..is a fool.
@ Them Guys…Good post. And nothing about the Evil JOOOOZZE, but you still got red thumbs. By the way, this is the 500th article over the last 3 years that the economic collapse is right around the corner. give me your worthless dollars for my valuable gold. How many corners in a circle?
The economy never recovered from the recession.
There are multiple indicators – if one only wants to see.
The Top 12 signs that we are rapidly plunging into another major economic slowdown.
we’ve been in a recassion for at LEAST ten years now, probly MUCH longer. the reason the gub-mint can claim we are growing(not in recession) is the the way growth is figgered here in the US official figures. we print/borrow money, and it counts as POSITIVE growth…as if we didn’t have to pay it BACK! i know it sounds wacky, but that’s the way our goobermint figures GDP…..borrowing is a GOOD thing, according to THEM….truth really IS stranger than fiction sometimes! unfortunately, now the bill for this is on the table, and the waitress is tapping her foot IMPATIENTLY!
I have 2 indicators, and I just blinked them.
overall ky, I appreciate your posts, thanks for all the updates.
Consumer Alert: ‘One-ring’ cell phone call scam
“According to the Federal Trade Commission, the “one-ring” cell phone scam is growing nationwide, affecting up to one million Americans a day.
Here’s how it works: scammers auto-dial cell phones across the country at random. The calls are from area codes that include: 268, 284, 473, 664, 649, 767, 809, 829, 849 and 876.”
“It could look just like a U.S. number…
But it actually may be coming from the Dominican Republic, Jamaica, the British Virgin Islands or Grenada.
When you call back, a message says you have reached an operator — please hold.
In some cases, the calls go to adult entertainment or other expensive services.
The Washington state attorney general reported that victims were charged $19.95 for an international call and $9 a minute…
The bottom line is this: don’t call numbers you don’t recognize.”
Thx KY MOM….Yet Another reason to have a pre-paid cell phone….:)
Might want to look at this……..
Isint it wonderful how reputable our government is!
Watching how our so called representatives carry and conduct themselves and the ya read something like this piece,,,
So much for the lies of the greatness of our country,
The premise was good and many of her people are good but something needs to be done about these political elite,,,
I personally think that I and thousands, maybe millions will not be affected by what the Governments, the markets, the military or anyone else does. Life will just go on with an underground economy in silver, gold, and bartering. It might be a good idea if the whole started doing it.
There won’t be an underground economy in silver, gold and bartering unless there’s enough food being produced without tractors. You can’t trade with someone for food unless you have more than enough extra and how can you know that? You might have a farm but do you have enough food on hand to feed the workers working the farm with hand tools? Maybe if the collapse happens at the right time and all you need is people to bring in the harvest then maybe you’d be OK.
BC – you have just reinforced the argument for family farms.
We just cant lose them , and we need more.
The only bumper sticker I have says….
NO FARMERS NO FOOD!
Don’t tractors use diesel??
So, even if the community as a group effort wanted to donate the gas in their cars for a community garden, it wouldn’t help??
JJ you missed the point. If we don’t grow it with or without energy you and everyone else is screwed. How is your potted plant?
JJ, a gasoline engine tractor would have to be available. Few Americans have diesel cars. Existing supplies of diesel would go quickly if people tried to use the behemoth farm tractors common today.
I have IH 460 gasoline powered tractor. There are many older gas tractors like mine. Lots of 560’s, M’s and H’s.
plows can be powered by people….
This is true.
But, before you hitch the kids up to the old one furrow plow, remember a plow only turns the top six inches of sod.
Buy yourself extra spades, d-handle and straight for variety.
You can manually turn the ground. What we sometimes do is dig a slit trench however long your garden is, spread composted manure on the exposed earth and move over one space and start turning dirt again. If you want you can and maybe should take your garden fork and run it through first.
It only sucks while you are doing it.
After the first couple of days if you haven’t given up you will pick up the system and keep going till it is done.
I have watched many a mennonite work 40 acre fields and bigger by hand. Myself never more than 3 acres. Have harvested large fields of hay and corn by hand though.
Good hand tools will save your life.
“Good hand tools will save your life.”
Couldn’t agree more…
4 is 3 3 is 2 2 is 1 1 is none… if it breaks.
Tilling is an outdated way of attempting agriculture meant for farms using unsustainable, industrial scale methods. Permaculture is the only sustainable, long term method of agriculture.
Remember this phrase, 1940justme…
“The population will match the food supply.”
And the food supply is going to crater with no means of financial transactions.
My grandparents had a farm during the Great Depression and would fill people’s vehicles with produce when they came by. They had orchards and chickens and had more than enough for their family. So it really is best to be in this type of location when SHTF, even if you don’t have a place yourself– better chance of being given handouts to help you survive!
if you don’t know them now, they are not going to want to know you after. mandatory handouts (welfare) were a big portion of what lead us down this crappy road to begin with.
people who have been paying attention for the past fifteen plus yrs are prepared to make it without tractors,, we never got a tractor on our farm till 1591 and lived very nice.
should read 1951 sorry
I like your thinking,,,
Had been thinking along the same lines, but cant help but second guess ourselves now and then,,
Reminds me of that Bible story of the “Bad Samaritan” man.
That BAD samaritan man saw many Others pass right by a stranded and in deep depair man on side of road..
so he too obeyed Christs words to be a BAD samaritan man and he too passed that stranded man by and refused to assist him.
if only more will follow Christs example and pass by those in need, picture how better the whole world will fast be!
Remember that one from school?
I do, as ridiculous as it was.
Will Do you about as much good when Russia and China (long time foes of ours, that have long, LONG memories) will see it as their time to shine in the sun and CRUSH Amerika at the same time.
Get ready you got, days, weeks (maybe, maybe not)
Months? Only if you pray real hard…
I’m ready, I got my Aquaponics up and running thanks to:
Good luck with your aquaponics when the power gets cut.
That so called Cold war with Russia…it was the Second biggest Hoax of the 20th century. Guess what the first biggest 20th century Hoax was(and still is!).
I am confident, that with elections this year, the politicians will get involved and really screw things up even more. Sanctions against Russia. Russia and her allies, sanctions against us. Trade wars. Then real wars. China, N.Korea and Iran might see windows of opportunity during a conflict between Russia and the US. Unforseen consequences.
we have or make nothing the Russians want, China will sell them anything they need
“Doing the garden, digging the weeds, who could ask for more, Will you still need me, will you still feed me when I’m 64”.
Getting the first green tomatoes starting to set on the plants. Carrots, beets, radishes, broccoli, peppers, lemons, oranges etc. all doing well. No Winter this year except for three weeks.
Bottom line is do WHAT you can WHILE you can….money does not have to come into play here, really…..some will buy dried milk and eggs, but I will dry them myself…IF some company can do it, so can you…albeit on a much smaller scale….but, I think it would be far healthier to do it yourself. Also, dry your own fruit, vegies, and meat…I made racks for drying out of screen and old picture frames…IF YOU CAN THINK IT, YOU CAN DO IT
Rats… Just when I thought everything was gonna be okay. I’ve been coming to shthplan for around 4 years…? Probably a bit less maybe.. (Mac?) I’ve been reading this sort of thing the whole time. Here we are. Nothings changed. Or has it? Is the water getting warmer and I just don’t feel it? I know the price of groceries is getting higher. Look at a stinkin box of cereal. Maybe my hands are just getting bigger.. Gas is around 3.76 now. That hurts to fill up my truck. obama is still just as stupid. It’s as if no one has the fucking balls to stand up to him in congress.. Their all a waste of oxygen. If they want to cut the population I suggest they start in washington. Bam! The whole town… Gone. A fresh start. It sure doesn’t bode well for out children. I feel for them all. I’ll be a grandfather again in a week or two. What the hell will it be like for him in 10 years? 20 years? Scares the shit out of me. Makes me mad that I can’t do much about it. Type out my frustrations on here or other sites.. Big deal.
“It sure doesn’t bode well for out children. I feel for them all. I’ll be a grandfather again in a week or two. What the hell will it be like for him in 10 years? 20 years? Scares the shit out of me. Makes me mad that I can’t do much about it. Type out my frustrations on here or other sites.. Big deal.”
Two things (at least) you can do,
1. Lead by example
2. Teach those children
WHAT other sites??!
trust me Wrong- your misery has company. plenty of it.
The big, big problem is that after an economic collapse and the power grid goes down you can expect 80% or 90% of the US population to die from the violence and starvation that will follow. America will never be the same. We’ll become a third world country. Most likely, never to rise again.
~~looks around and whispers, are those guys still here?…seeing and hearing nothing slides 9mm back into holster~~
Don’t be so down BC…have faith in the resilience of the American Patriot…
God speed in all you do.
Do all you can as a grandparent to teach him or her how to survive. How to hunt, fish, garden, woodwork, whatever yor skills are, teach them to your grandchildren. They might not appreciate it at the time, but they will remember later….with fondness and grateful ness, I hope?…
America has been the international ‘bully’ for so long now, do not think for a moment that Russia and allies will stop at nothing to finish the kill. They have wounded the animal now all that’s left is the kill shot.
Thing is, this will not be just about the U.S. but the whole world in a larger sense. Many countries are using fiat currencies and they will all fall hard, not just the U.S. Many countries and millions of people are going to be in big, big trouble.
To paraphrase Yoda in a strange way- There is no ‘if’, there is only ‘when’.
@socrates….you said “America has been the international ‘bully’ for so long now, do not think for a moment that Russia and allies will stop at nothing to finish the kill. They have wounded the animal now all that’s left is the kill shot.”…we better hope the russians didn’t watch “zombieland”….i fear a “DOUBLETAP” is comin’!
I was thinking more like intersecting sectors of fire,,,
Russia from one side, China from the other.
What could go wrong for us, we gots kim kardashian and whatever that baboon she had a kid bys name and the safe act with obummer care,, what me worry?
you’ll like this one
Thats reserved only for certain individuals, Most i have more respect for so would never use that, but some people just defy all decency and for them, yes thats fitting.
You just insulted baboons all over the world.
SOC , Russia has been a bully for 800 years.
How long has the US been a “bully” ? 80?
Its about pride , Putin needs his love and Obams needs his . These two asshats dont care how many die , they just wanna save face.
its a fricken game to these people.
Our currencies are just the start i,m afraid .
Ummm, I guess you never heard of that whole Native Americans stuff that happened.
OK , LES , Make it 140 years .
Still the same senario.
American Indians were still living in the stone age when Europeans got here. Inferior cultures are always exterminated by superior cultures. We now own this continent, at least till somebody can take it from us. Tired of hearing the whole “noble savage” bit. They’d have done the same to Europe had they been able.
They would still have a pristine, healthy and nutritionally abundant landscape. While we have a polluted, crowded and fake culture that promotes technological materialism over sustainable survival, encouraging short term gains at the expense of future generations.
You might want to read about the Mississippian culture and its collapse from environmental imbalance and depletion. The cultures found here by the Europeans were on their way back up from the collapse, they just had not made it before we interrupted them at this stage of the cycle.
The Indian tribes all engaged in cannibalism. Especially children. It’s not politically correct to report it but it’s true. They were savage. They treated women with brutality. There’s really nothing admirable about the Indians and their culture.
The Russians had a lot of native peoples in the way, too. Advanced cultures win, inferior cultures lose.
That’s right, inferior cultures. American Indian culture, for one. No industry, medicine, poetry, the wheel, nothing except superstition, shamans, oral clan histories, continuous warfare for no purpose, bare subsistence life. Not much to emulate there.
mish provided a map of border changes in the last thousand years. it’s worth a look. http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2014/03/european-border-changes-over-last-1000.html
IMHO we never have recouped from ‘the recession.’ We are in a depression and have been for quite some time. All numbers from the Feds are manipulated. Gonna get real ugly, real fast when it happens.
Gotta call bull on a couple of fronts.
If our economy fails, all other economies fail. Kinda like the cold war MAD or AMD concept(Assured Mutual Destruction) we had back in the 60s through the 80s. Why would other countries destroy our economy when it would surely wreck their own?
As far as dumping US bonds, you gotta have a buyer in order to dump anything. Stock or bonds. When you “dump”, your bond/stock it is put in line with others stocks and bonds at the exchange and when an order to buy said stock or bond, if yours is next in line to be bought, you can dump it. If nobody is buying your stock or bond, your stuck with it. I’m pretty sure that’s how it works. So if a US T-bond is worth nothing the holder of this stock would be screwed. Once again, why would a holder of US bonds do this to themselves?
rednek- that’s NOT how it works. also- the first ones to sell get the best price (or lose the least), so the first to fire the shot is usually not the one who’s gonna be left holding the bag. If China gets a sense (or more likely a direct tip from Putin) that they’re about to dump their U.S debt, China would convince them to coordinate it with them. But once it starts, everyone will HAVE TO sell, for whatever they can get, knowing if they don’t get something FAST, their paper will have ZERO value.
Right now, they’re looking at us as a gangrenous limb- sure, you’re gonna lose the arm, and it’s gonna hurt, but at some point you have to decide when it’s too dangerous to the rest of the body and have to cut it off. You can learn to live without it just fine- but that doesn’t mean there won’t be alot of pain involved in the amputation.
Still gotta have a buyer. Your can put your house up for sale but if nobody buys it, your holding the bag. Same with bonds. They can gang up and “dump” as much as they want as long a somebody else buys. I don’t see it being the economic Armageddon everyone says it will be.
The REAL item that’s gonna sink the US is the value of the dollar. We’re printing as fast as we can with nothing to back it up. $85+B per month. Devaluing precipitously as I write. The devaluation of the dollar is the reason Putin and Li Keqiang (I believe)would sell to protect themselves much as you or i would if the value of a stock was supposed to tank. Get rid of the “gangrenous” stock to protect yourself.
Even if they buy it they have to get a loan which is damn hard now with most sales being cash paid by investors many of them in China. Most govt. economic data is at best suspect and at worst outright lies.
Merely offering bonds for sale will cause the desired price drop. Whoever’s first out of the gate has the best chance of finding a buyer. The idea is not so much to sell as to crush the price. The Ruskies and Chicoms both know they’ll lose on the deal. The goal would be to make the deal more painful for USA than for themselves. At the very least, the American economy would shrink drastically. The size of the American economy has allowed us to bully other nations for decades. The British did the same thing before we dethroned them. Does anybody think the Ruskies like the way the cold war ended? They would just love to have another shot at that one.
Rednek: so then since the past couple Months now Canadas dollar that used to be worth More than us dollars, has dropped in value by aprox 9.5 maybe by now 10% so far and we do not see any persons or nations in any Mad rush to offload canadian dollars?
Last I checked a truck sales website every canadian truck for sale there showed asking price of say $50,000 Canada dollars..The webiste automatically Converts it into us dollars. And as of just 3 days ago last I checked there trucks, that $50,000 canadian dollare truck was listed for aprox $45,000 to $45,325 sale in us dollars.
This has NOT happened for decades. Like ever since the 1980’s and Early 90’s when a us dollar got you aprox $1.50 in canadadian cash values.
So far its only about 10% less but still we see zero mad dash to offload canada dollars eh.
That also shows us dolllars are NOT “Precipitiously Devaluing as we speak”…Us dollars have held steady around .80 levels. yes it varries day to day a “Bit” but that Bit is only from .80 down to .79.7 or so…Other days it goes UP from .80 to .82.
And its remained that way a long while now.
We all know the dead accuracy of the government reporting lately. I’m sure they have their hand in the exchange rates also. Because we’ve been printing up money without anything to back it, the overall value of the dollar is shrinking. One chart from the Fed showed that a current dollar buying power is $0.05 of the original dollar when the current system started up in 1913. So, maybe precipitously is a strong word given this shrinkage has occurred over a 100 years.
Pretty good read:
Inflation is also a dollar killer. How much did your truck cost 10 years ago?
Its all about the buying power of the dollar.
Rednek math, all caveats apply.
Actual Cash in the US Total Value of the Economy
QE Printed Monthly 85,000,000,000 85,000,000,000
Monthly % of QE Money 9.67% 0.09%
Annual % of QE Money 116.07% 1.11%
No, the other economies don’t fail if ours fails. In fact, they’re better off without the US. They can stop selling real goods for fiat dollars that will soon be worthless.
It’s like the contractor who builds a family a home and then lends them the money to buy it. Are they really making money on the deal?
Beg to differ. China’s net trade with the US last year was +$318B. That’s a big chunk. Their economy is already thrashed. Would they pull the plug on trade relations with the US and risk $318B worth of economic collapse? I’m thinking prolly not. Given we are exporting crude to China it would not be good policy to cut off relations with the US. IMHO of course.
yes , 7.0% over 15 years.
BC, if we go down, everybody is going down. Including, and especially, China.
Barn Cat so how does GM remain in buisnes when they use their GMAC to Loan cash to folks to Buy a GM car?
And what is the main if any difference between china sells usa stuff for us cash fiat, and also does same stuff sales to the EU for euro dollar Fiat cash?
And if every nation quits selling its stuff to other nations for fiat cash…Whos Left to sell to?
Nobody thats who. Why would nations desire to self collapse that way?
you need repackage that crackerbox economics course, and ask the cracker jacks maker co. to send a new Box with a Prize You can better make use of…Try for a set of HD door bolt Locks for when you Hide away for several centuries awaiting that Fabled Reset in those many Fiction collapse books you read.
OR BarnCat You can Join Me and Together we can practice Christs Command to be Bad samaritans and avoid or never assist Anyone in need eh!….After some practice at That method we can Graduate to Christ’s other Command to always Gouge Prices so its like Kicking a guy when hes already down….I am going to check what Christs command was for our Real Enemys! Its got to be much worse if those couple commands were basically for our Neighbors or friendly fellow citizens eh!
Well look at 2008 and that’s exactly what happened,people started dumping and the prices dropped.The other side is if I’m short a stock and it drops 50% I might then want to cover and to do that I need to buy that stock. I know a bank analyst and back in 2007 I told him I thought the economy was going to collapse and he laughed at me.About a year later in the fall saw him Sat morning at our daughters soccer game and he had the look of fear in his eye,he said T bills went no bid an the whole system almost collapsed until the Feds came out and said that they would cover everything.It’s happened before and it will happen again,it’s called fear.
You’re forgetting history Redneck,what was 1929 ?
Nope not forgetting history. One of the main items about 1929 was that so many stocks ended up with 0 value. Once people realized what was going on the tried to dump, some successfully I’m sure, but most were left holding the bag.
The bag being worthless stock.
BTW…I do believe we’re headed for a crash. I may be a rednek but I ain’t stupid.
i agree that things could go real wrong for the usa this year.
argriculturally, the droughts and harsh winter have taken the toll on usa food stocks.
almost everyone except the rich has no reserves of food, cash, etc.
the electrical grids are near limits already and obama has been cutting energy plants off or reduced faster than i woulve thought.
but hyperinflation isnt one of them, deflation is the economic problem for the usa.
we’ll see what happens, but if those like russia and china decide to gang up; they can bring in great depression 2 for the usa real quick.
a month of food, cash and extra gas should be the minimum as if that happens; shortages will come. i dont expect complete collapse; but shortages will become normal for maybe a year imo.
I expect a complete economic collapse with government at all levels going bankrupt. I expect the nationwide power grids to go down. I expect there to be no police, fire protection, or public water. I expect no goods to be transported across the country.
I suggest a minimum of 12 months of food and water if you have the money and the space.
We won’t see a true deflation because products will get more expensive and not cheaper.
Our economy is imploding. Full time jobs are disappearing due to obamacare. People have a lot less money because their insurance rates have gone sky high.
You bumped your head bad if you think we have deflation in the US
Supposedly we get deflation,the central banks panic and print a bunch of money which causes hyperinflation.It took 7 trillion in new debt and 3 trillion in QE to get to the poor state that we are in now.I don’t think the Feds will wait to see deflation,they will print until the dollar is destroyed or we have war.
A month of food??? Better rethink that. You should think of food storage in terms of years. And then how are you gonna resupply yourself such as seeds, chickens, rabbits etc. If the economy collapses, it will be a long time before the local groceryis reopened.
A month’s worth isn’t even a big pantry cabinet full. Economic activity won’t stop completely, but the days of stopping at the greasy arches on the way home would pretty much be over. In Ukraine, Micky D’s is already someplace you go for birthdays & such. Many Ukrainians can’t even afford it for that.
**a month of food, cash and extra gas should be the minimum as if that happens; shortages will come. i dont expect complete collapse; but shortages will become normal for maybe a year imo.**
If you sincerely believe a year of shortages, why would you advise a month of food? 🙁
Same shit, different day and more of it!
American society is like a ladder. Levels of society is like a rungs of the ladder. From bottom to top. If this happens, what will be left? What something like Tobacco Road or Grapes of Wrath or the dust bowl? So you have 20′ of ladder and they kick out 5 middle rungs, what’s left? A big disconnect! Nobody wins. It will take time to reconstruct but a lot will suffer in the mean time, top to bottom.
The poor will be to dependent and ignorant to figure it out. The rich will know about it and have to make a greater effort and expend a lot more money getting what they need to survive.
Which leaves those in the middle. The backbone of this mess. The people that grow the food, swing the hammers, dig the ditches among a host of other talents that the rich cant buy and the poor are uninterested in obtaining.
Fear not, if you posses a marketable talent, not skeetering your fat ass across a carpeted floor in an ergonomic office chair to answer you’re new Apple I wiggett, you’ll be ok!
Don’t fear this, we need a reset. The poor and the rich need to be pushed off of their asses and get back to work and taken down a station or two.
We in the middle will fin and defend for our families. Trade amongst ourselves and nature will clean up the gene pool and weed out the slackers, rich and poor.
We in the middle will thrive and survive…
Me thinks the Pesky Ruskies have over extended their reach and will not be able to carry out their bravadocious threats. The US still has a lot of strength left and cannot be toppled even if the Pesky Ruskie Bears and the Chinese Dragons unite. I agree that TPTB have brought this once great nation to the brink but our enemies (inside and outside) underestimate our strength, resilience and resolve to their own peril. When push comes to shove those in the way will be pushed aside and become irrelevant.
Keep On Truckin, Keep On Prepping, Keep on Praying!
What’s our economy based on ?
pixie dust, rainbow light, and unicorn hair, all blended under the extreme weight of that house that just fell… oh and sparkles.
I thought it was unicorn farts!
BINGO, hunter! …DEBT MAN WALKIN’! that’s what the US is now. didn’t lynyrd skynyrd write a song about DEBT
Whiskey bottles, and brand new cars
Oak tree you’re in my way
There’s too much coke and too much smoke
Look what’s going on inside you
Ooooh that smell
Can’t you smell that smell
Ooooh that smell
The smell of DEBT surrounds you
Angel of darkness is upon you
Stuck a needle in your arm
So take another toke, have a blow for your nose
And one more drink fool, will drown you
Ooooh that smell
Can’t you smell that smell
Ooooh that smell
The smell of DEBT surrounds you
Now they call you Prince Charming
Can’t speak a word when you’re full of ‘ludes
Say you’ll be all right come tomorrow
But tomorrow might not be here for you
Ooooh that smell
Can’t you smell that smell
Ooooh that smell
The smell of DEBT surrounds you
Hey, you’re a fool, you
Go on stick them needles in your arm
I know I been there before
One little problem that confronts you
Got a monkey on your back
Just one more fix, Lord might do the trick
One hell of a price for you to get your kicks
Ooooh that smell
Can’t you smell that smell
Ooooh that smell
The smell of DEBT surrounds you
Ooooh that smell
Can’t you smell that smell
Ooooh that smell
The smell of DEBT surrounds you
Hey, you’re a fool, you
Go on stick those needles in your arm
You’re just a fool, just a fool, just a fool
Good one Butt….
Does make one wonder of the outcome…
N, DB, H, the companies whose shares are sold on Wall Street still employ workers and produce goods throughout these United States. American farmers still produce grain, fruit, and produce to feed the world. America still leads the world in many industries and produces equipment, supplies, and many other products in demand around the world. People stillfock to come to this great country. We are not talking Pixie dust but even this is in demand when produced in Disneyland and by Dreamworks.
America is still the greatest country in the world and I personally would never trade it for Russia or China, nor would I exchange their leaders for ours. Putin is a desperate rat on a sinking stinking Russian ship. He actually looks like a rat. . I have come to the conclusion that there are a lot of Russian and pro Russian, godless communist trolls on this site. It doesn’t take much to tell who is who by reading their cleverly written comments in not so subtle support of Putin, the Russians, their strategy for world domination
This is planetarely devastating.
USA going down would hurt the rest of the world quite a bit in the short run, but they’d adapt, and after a while forget about us. To think USA is indespensible to te world economy is pure American arrogance.
With globalization and the US being the largest economy on the planet,if we go down then everyone goes down.
Have you ever heard of the Suidlanders? Our white brothers and sisters in South Africa have a nationwide prepper group 800,000 strong prepping for the impending white genocide. They have a mass bugout plan in every province in the country. THAT IS WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING. Strength is always in the numbers. A couple black cops tried to fuck with them one day and got shoved aside like flies. That is the power of a large group. But we have no rallying point. We have no unity at all in our prepper community. We have no band plan coordinator. We have no line of communications open. These Suidlanders have a mass SMS system in place to notify people of SHTF developments. They really have their shit together.
Could be natural/manmade disaster,no one knows till it happens,and even then,may not know WHY things happened.All you can do is prep the best you can/afford and enjoy the day you have today.Anyone of us could die in our sleep which is why,as always,I say live for today while prepping for tomorrow.
Problem is what do we consider a natural disaster these days, seeing how the weather is manipulated!
US has a long ways to go before she goes down, because a lot of countries depend on US. One country is China. They depend on us because if we go they want be far behind. It’s best for them right now. Not saying we want have a bump in the road with them. As long as we can print money , we will be fine. Not saying we want pay for it in the long run. No shooting war with Russia because no one will when in a nuke war. We will go back into a cold war with them maybe. Russia knows if they go into a NATO country they will get it .I know the basement commandos want agree with this , but I don’t think I’m to far off.
i think MATH will have sumthin’ to say about your thesis, grey dog! it’s like gravity…..it’s the LAW. better look at karl denninger’s chart on debt to GDP…..it’s an eye-opener! math IS law, and it won’t be dicked with for long without throwing a taper tantrum.
…for long without throwing a taper tantrum.
-I wish I had thought of that term. It contains the inevitability of math., the threat of reaction to economic support tapering, the fact of tapering of quality of life, and the infantile emotional responses of the the majority of the people in this country.
Congratulations. I envy you that phrase and warn you now that I WILL steal it.
I wish I had thought of it too, but I stole part of it….heeee hee hee heeeeee!
I put a lot of stock in what John Williams says. He’s a very sharp economist. His free reports are worth checking out and so are all his interviews. He first forecast hyperinflation for 2020 a few years ago but keeps revising his predictions for earlier and earlier. Last I saw, he predicts a collapse of the dollar by the end of the second quarter of 2014 (6-30-2014).
As other people have said, Russia could trigger a run on the dollar and an economic collapse but it could just collapse on its own at any time without any outside help. All that’s needed is individual foreign investors to lose confidence in the dollar and start dumping them. A Zero Hedge article from last year claimed that 1/15 of all the dollars in existence are held just in Argentina alone.
People like Jim Willie and Greg Hunter think 2014 is the year too. I’m preparing like it is.
All the intelligent and open minded alternative news outlets are saying the same thing. It’s absolutely, undeniable this; The USA started this clusterfuck and Russia is simply responding to America’s insane moves.
The mulatto, and all his chimps in the administration, are consciously shifting this country into overdrive, punching the pedal to the metal, as this once great Republic heads at break neck speeds towards the edge of the abyss.
The mulatto may be from the planet of the apes, but he knows, or at least those who write the scripts for his teleprompter, know how to methodically dismantle the Constitution, the military (filling fast with degenerate queers), our school system (common core), our food supply (gmo and junk), our skies (chemtrails), etc., etc., etc., ad nauseum, and now the potential for a global war. Putin is doing everything he can to first bring order to that region (by neutralizing the internal threat) and then to diffuse the psychopaths in DC.
America’s government is TOTALLY OUT OF CONTROL. They are insane. They have gone stark raving mad. That is what we Law Abiding Citizens now have to deal with. The plan of those who run America is to isolate it, then bring it to it’s knees, and then behead it. If we lose our guns, we’re dead fuckers.
Brought to you by a rogue government under the spell of Satan.
If half the country believes Obama and his direction of the country, then half the country is Stark Raving Mad.
Sleep Well Tonight.
And you guys know what my response to this piece will be ………OH PLEASE !!!
I just felt a breeze, it went in one ear and out the other.
A clear hollow tunnel right through
Pondering this…we live in a rural area, have been preparing for hard times since 2009, and have discerned from the Lord that our home will be a place of refuge. A few weeks ago during my Scripture and prayer time, what really jumped out of the pages was the phrase “The days are at hand” from Ezekiel 12:23. I was considering this prayerfully, and the fact that the third weekend of May all three of our grown children, and a fiancé, will be at our house…including the ones from California. That type of gathering hasn’t happened for years.
I recently started reading the writings of a Catholic man named Charlie Johnston who prophetically writes about the “coming storm” of hard times…with a 3 1/2 year period starting late 2013/early 2014. He can be found by searching “Abraham’s Journey” on Facebook (get a cup of coffee and read through older posts) and is starting a new blog to summarize his writings at:
I’m thinking the days are definitely at hand, and to get yourself spiritually ready with the Lord as well as mentally, emotionally, physically, etc in a timely manner…the clock feels as if it is speeding up.
I’m not buying it.
Even IF Russia redeemed its $200B in Treasury securities … so what? What percent is that of the $4 Trillion of bonds that the Federal Reserve Bank buys every year?
Don’t you think the Fed could issue another $200B in obligations as fast as a hound dog can howl?
More doom and gloom bullshit. Be afraid … be very afraid … because we’ve got a community of a few hundred regular doomers here, and advertisers pay to reach you.
Look, anyone who has been on this site for even six months … if you aren’t ready for reasonably foreseeable outcomes by now … piss or get off the pot.
And with all due respect to Mr. Williams, he is an economist. His prognostications about the physical or technical side of modern life has no more authority than I have when I share my medical conclusions with my physician.
But if you’ve got nothing in your life going on, hanging out here for ten hours reading these threads with other doom pod folk is great fun.
this is what, the 645th “sky is falling” article in the last several years? “Expert” prediction after “expert” prediction has turned out to be bullshit. Sooner or later rational folk recognize when they’re adhering to something for non-rational reasons and change course.
Am I ready for anything survivable? Yes, mostly. Am I going to continue to wallow in doom and gloom? Not to the extent I have been.
You can if you want to. I’m no longer going to devote a dozen hours a week to fear porn.
You’re a dumbass,our economy is built on credit.They have to create more credit this year than last year or the whole thing collapses.The problem is paying back that credit.I hope you don’t believe anything bad is going to happen,stupid people need to learn the hard way.
John Allen isn’t too far off base. If you fret over this stuff for hours on end it can really drag you down. It will put you in a bad place. And hell, it may not even happen. Maybe.
However,history has shown that catastrophic events do occur. We know it’s gonna happen some time. Current economic situation would dictate a very high probability of an economic crash. Oscillating stock market and endless conflicting stock market predictions are a red flag telling everyone that somethings up. Pay attention.
In order to prepare for such a catastrophy, you have to have knowledge. If you use “fear porn” as a learning tool, it can serve to show you the mindset needed to survive should such an event happen. You can filter out the crazy stuff as you deem necessary.
Crawling off of soap box now…
that would be 5%
At the Hines VA hospital in Illinois, there has been construction for about 3 years now on the front entrance. Just the facade. Yes. 3 years! I worked construction in 1981. We put up a private industry 54 story building in downtown Chicago in a year. Your tax dollars at work.
maudy frickett-they probably negotiated a union contract for hourly pay instead of flat rate. Either that, or that is going to be one Taj Mahal of a facade!
Probably a cost plus job.
The strength of this country is not in our leaders but in the people. The people on this site that are working to become self sustaining. Our leaders may be following a script but we are not. We will outlast, and soon, we will be back. Maybe a strong leader will emerge soon.
This happens every time a Super Power crashes. (Rome Greece Ect.) Its going to happen just don’t know when.
Two reasons. #1 WE have turned away from God!
The folks her know its coming and they are ready (I hope).
I only keep just enough cash in the bank to cover bills, the rest I put into P.M., Food, Water treatment. When this comes I’m going to make lemon aid out of this on coming lemon.
This is a special break in programming for a message from Barack Psychobama for all Connecticutians…
‘IF YOU LIKE YOUR GUN, YOU CAN KEEP YOUR GUN’
🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
Come on down, on Air Force One. It’s on me.
Look, in facing reality, the Country is Imploding. I do not believe that this administration actually believed Obama Care would even work or any of its other programs.
We are seeing a take down in public of the world’s #1 superpower
from which it may never recover and the change in the world’s leadership. Russia and China may be eyeing for that top job, but they have competition.
Regardless what is written or said, no one will truly be prepared for the fall that is coming. We are not ready for what is really going to happen. Who cares about what Russian may do about the dollar! Prepare as when it dies, you don’t die with it!
There are a lot of good decent folks who come to this site and who most heartedly care about people and the nation.
Most of you read scriptures because I see them posted and you must know in order for the new world order to arise, nations, all nations, must sink into chaos and despair. Which means, rampant lawlessness, illness, hunger,earth changes, etc…
One thing the scriptures do say, everything that can be shaken, will be shaken……….
The situation will get so bad, mankind will cry for a savior, for someone to come and save us from our selves. This person will arise and people will sell their souls to him to be able to eat, buy and sell. Those who do not will die.
Some of you will scoff at my remarks: but regardless, it is coming, when, sooner than later.
Not only prepare you for your physical needs, but also your spiritual needs……time is running out…..time to stop playing……or putting off. Do not prepare for peace, prepare for war…….
One more thing………..UFO’s are really fallen angels from the rebellion……. don’t be deceived….
Everybody be safe. Perilous times ahead…….and that is my 2 cents tonight..
Yessir. The next Hitler is among us as we speak. Jus’ biding his time.
More like working overtime getting ready.
Why many preppers will die
whether you like or agree with Selco or not
he always has interesting insights
Guys seriously. You’ve got to use these sponsors to stock of for the end. A lot of great options in the margins.
I swear, the purpose of shtfplan.com is not to keep people informed and prepared, but rather to mainain a consitantly high level or paranoia in its viewers. No matter what is currently in the headlines, THAT is the big trigger that will end it all.
The, if you really believe what you just posted, then you really don’t know our community. Our website IS for keeping people informed and prepared, your opposing viewpoint notwithstanding. I wish you would at least look at some of our archives before passing final judgment on our site. I don’t think you’ve looked at it enough.
the purpose of shtfplan.com is not to keep people informed and prepared, but rather to mainain a consitantly high level or paranoia in its viewers
Oh, precious, there are many other sites that do that.
Smokin, these are for you….
Okay…say what you want about the South but did you ever hear of anybody retiring and moving North?
A Florida senior citizen drove his brand new Corvette convertible out
of the dealership. Taking off down the road, he pushed it to 80 mph,
enjoying the wind blowing through what little hair he had left.
“Amazing,” he thought as he flew down I-95, pushing the pedal even more.
Looking in his rear view mirror, he saw a Florida State Trooper, blue
lights flashing and siren blaring. He floored it to 100 mph, then 110,
then 120. Suddenly he thought, “What am I doing? I’m too old for this!”
and pulled over to await the trooper’s arrival.
Pulling in behind him, the trooper got out of his vehicle and walked
up to the Corvette. He looked at his watch, then said, “Sir, my shift
ends in 30 minutes. Today is Friday. If you can give me a new reason
for speeding–a reason I’ve never before heard — I’ll let you go.”
The old gentleman paused then said: “Three years ago, my wife ran off
with a Florida State Trooper. I thought you were bringing her back.”
“Have a good day, Sir,” replied the trooper.
The owner of a golf course in Georgia was confused about paying an invoice, so he decided to ask his secretary for some mathematical help.
He called her into his office and said, “Y’all graduated from the University of Georgia and I need some help. If I wuz to give yew $20,000, minus 14%, how much would you take off?”
The secretary thought a moment, and then replied, “Everthang but my earrings.”
A senior citizen in Louisiana was overheard saying … “When the end of the world comes, I hope to be in Louisiana.”
When asked why, he replied, “I’d rather be in Louisiana ’cause everythang happens in Louisiana 20 years later than in the rest of the world.”
The young man from Mississippi came running into the store and said to his buddy, “Bubba, somebody just stole your pickup truck from the parking lot!”
Bubba replied, “Did y’all see who it was?”
The young man answered, “I couldn’t tell, but I got the license number.”
A man in North Carolina had a flat tire, pulled off on the side of the road, and proceeded to put a bouquet of flowers in front of the car and one behind it. Then he got back in the car to wait.
A passerby studied the scene as he drove by, and was so curious he turned around and went back. He asked the fellow what the problem was.
The man replied, “I got a flat tahr.”
The passerby asked, “But what’s with the flowers?”
The man responded, “When you break down they tell you to put flares in the front and flares in the back. I never did understand it neither.”
A Tennessee State trooper pulled over a pickup on I-65. The trooper asked, “Got any ID?”
The driver replied, “Bout whut?”
The Sheriff pulled up next to the guy unloading garbage out of his pick-up into the ditch. The Sheriff asked, “Why are you dumping garbage in the ditch? Don’t you see that sign right over your head.”
“Yep,” he replied. “That’s why I’m dumpin’ it here, ’cause it says: ‘Fine For Dumping Garbage.’ “
Eppe, your type of humor is one of the pleasures of being Southern-born and Southern-bred.
A boy walked into the bathroom and saw his mom walking out of the shower. he asked her what that dark fuzzy thing between her legs was. She said was her sponge for bathing and yelled at him to get out .
The boy later returned and asked his mother where her sponge was. She said she lost it.
The boy said “I know where it is mommy! The woman next door has it, and she’s washing daddy’s face with it right now!”
Okay, where’s Kentucky? 😉
Puerto Rico owns a hole page of usgs small earthquakes. A swarm. Moderate depth.
@ maudy frickett. Puetro Rico to the Virgin Islands is one of the most active regions on the Earth for these light to moderate earthquake of 2.5 to 4.5. These swarms over the decades are very common. It is pretty breathtaking to see all these quakes still.
That would be pretty unnerving
Same thing at Bay Pines VA, constantly added on building. You know the troop conflicts will persist if the VA continues the expansion. The county continues with it’s makework also, grading beside the roads, illegals laying new sod when there is no need for any of this work.
somebody’s stock market is gonna collapse
but it may not be ours !
Ukraine crisis: In Moscow, panic sets in as rouble plummets and foreign exchanges run out of dollars
Kinda makes you wonder if ole Putin knew things were getting bad in the RU. Maybe decided to send some troops out and about to create a nice little distraction.
The Lord is my Shepherd,
I shall not be in want.
He provides me still waters,
Great Psalms. I’ll look it up….
Let God be true and every Man a liar !!!!
To much Ole tonight brother! lmao!
I’ll say it as a prayer for you on my walk tonight and again tomorrow as I am digging fresh carrots out of my garden.
“sometimes ya just gotta say…wtf.”
Thanks friend and aloha from eastern Idaho.
Yes, I had too much. Bought silver in Idaho Falls and nearby was a Pub. I think it was called ‘Celts’….
They had no Oly on tap so had some of their stuff….
“beer, proof that God loves us” Ben Franklin.
Sometimes a guy just needs to take a break from the madness…once it starts, there probably won’t be time for a couple brewski’s.
hahahaha, that was a good one one ‘Ugly’! I needed the laugh bad, lol!! ..don’t be sorry, your heart is what counts and you were understood! :-)) Hugs and kisses to you!
How to survive a nuclear war by TinHatRanch part 1:
This is part 2:
Of course part 3:
Part 4 is also important:
Let’s face it, the likelihood of the mega SHTF being nuclear war is increasing more and more each day. These are good videos, everyone might like to check them out. Mac, you might like it also.
A bucket full of fish
A redneck with a bucket full of live fish was approached recently by a game warden in Alabama as he started to drive his boat away from a lake.
The game warden asked the man, “May I see your fishing license please?”
“Naw, sir,” replied the redneck. “I don’t need none of them there papers. These here are my pet fish.”
“Yep. Once a week, I bring these here fish o’mine down to the lake and let ’em swim ’round for a while. Then when I whistle, they swim right back into my net and I take ’em home.”
“What a line of baloney….you’re under arrest.”
The redneck said, “It’s the truth, Mr. Gov’ment Man. I’ll show ya! We do this all the time!!”
“WE do, now, do WE?” smirked the warden. “PROVE it!”
The redneck released the fish into the lake and stood and waited.
After a few minutes, the warden said, “Well?”
“Well, WHUT?” said the redneck.
The warden asked, “When are you going to call them back?”
“Call who back?”
“The FISH,” replied the warden!
“Whut fish?” asked the redneck.
MORAL OF THE STORY:
We may not be as smart as some city slickers, but we ain’t as dumb as some government employees.
What is this, about the 25th “collapse” we’ve had or are gonna have so far this year?… You folks are weak minded nuts for following this guy who runs this fear-mongering self enriching bs site….
and yet you couldn’t help but post….
You don’t know shit about this site. You can move on down the road. Free country and all.
Hi Hi….please tell us all just WHO we are following? I follow no one….but Christ. BS site? Nah…this is a site where all are encouraged to express themselves in any manner they choose….freedom of thought/and expression of the same is a wonderful thing! You make it sound like the good people who come to this site are mere lemmings….LMAO at THAT thought……
FOB, I agree, we all come here for one reason or another, I like to think we WANT to know about all things, one way or another, and do get educated one way or another, but in the end, we must be the ones who make it to the other side, one way or another…
I post jokes to KEEP people coming here, even if it is to read things outside of the MSM, and place a smile on thier face, one way or another….
If that makes sense….
eppe…I have been reading articles here for quite some time and have commented from time to time for several years now…I personally come to this particular site because I want information from actual people….I can do the research myself…and do…but I have come to view some folks here as “kindred souls”….and hope/wish that if they were ever in need, I could be of some assistance….there are times when I feel quite helpless regarding the state of this Republic, and, while I may be rather aged, I am far from helpless…that said, I would wish to aid/help/assist any that I can….
Have Faith…and Keep the Faith..
I kinda like the little comunity we got going on here, plus its nice to vent, if we didnt do that we might just explode!
I’m a strong minded nut, who’s he kidding?
Lord, please help us all….
This is the story of the blonde flying in a two-seater airplane with just the pilot.
He has a heart attack and dies. She, frantic, calls out a May Day.
“May Day! May Day! Help me! Help me! My pilot had a heart attack and is dead. And I don’t know how to fly. Help me! Please help me!”
She hears a voice over the radio saying:
“This is Air Traffic Control and I have you loud and clear. I will talk you through this and get you back on the ground. I’ve had a lot of experience with this kind of problem. ‘Now, just take a deep breath. Everything will be fine! Now give me your height and position.”
She says, “I’m 5’4″ and I support Obama.”
“O.K.” says the voice on the radio…
“Repeat after me: Our Father. Who art in Heaven. . . .”
For all you computer GEEKS out there….
In ancient Israel , it came to pass that a trader by the name of Abraham Com did take unto himself a young wife by the name of Dorothy.
Dot Com was a comely woman, broad of shoulder and long of leg. Indeed, she was often called Amazon Dot Com.
And she said unto Abraham, her husband, “Why dost thou travel so far from town to town with thy goods when thou canst trade without ever leaving thy tent?”
And Abraham did look at her as though she were several saddle bags short of a camel load, but simply said, “How, dear?”
And Dot replied, “I will place drums in all the towns and drums in between to send messages saying what you have for sale, and they will reply telling you who hath the best price. The sale can be made on the drums and delivery made by Uriah’s Pony Stable (UPS).”
Abraham thought long and decided he would let Dot have her way with the drums. And the drums rang out and were an immediate success. Abraham sold all the goods he had at the top price, without ever having to move from his tent.
To prevent neighbouring countries from overhearing what the drums were saying, Dot devised a system that only she and the drummers knew. It was known as Must Send Drum Over Sound (MSDOS), and she also developed a language to transmit ideas and pictures – Hebrew To The People (HTTP).
And the young men did take to Dot Com’s trading as doth the greedy horsefly take to camel dung. They were called Nomadic Ecclesiastical Rich Dominican Sybarites, or NERDS.
And lo, the land was so feverish with joy at the new riches and the deafening sound of drums that no one noticed that the real riches were going to that enterprising drum dealer, Brother William of Gates, who bought off every drum maker in the land. Indeed he did insist on drums to be made that would work only with Brother Gates’ drumheads and drumsticks.
And Dot did say, “Oh, Abraham, what we have started is being taken over by others.” And Abraham looked out over the Bay of Ezekiel , or eBay as it came to be known.
He said, “We need a name that reflects what we are.”
And Dot replied, “Young Ambitious Hebrew Owner Operators.”
“YAHOO,” said Abraham.
And because it was Dot’s idea, they named it YAHOO Dot Com.
Abraham’s cousin, Joshua, being the young Gregarious Energetic Educated Kid (GEEK) that he was, soon started using Dot’s drums to locate things around the countryside.
It soon became known as God’s Own Official Guide to Locating Everything (GOOGLE).
That is how it all began. And that’s the truth….
I just had to do it SHTF people, it was in the cards….
Many times people have told me I don’t know jack shit, but I really do…..
For some time many of us have wondered just who is Jack Schitt? We find ourselves at a loss when someone says, “You don’t know Jack Schitt!” Well, thanks to my genealogy efforts, you can now respond in an intellectual way.
Jack Schitt is the only son of Awe Schitt.
Awe Schitt, the fertilizer magnate, married Miss O. Needeep They had one son, Jack.
In turn, Jack Schitt married Noe Schitt. The deeply religious couple produced six children: Holie Schitt, Giva Schitt, Fulla Schitt, Bull Schitt, and the twins Deap Schitt and Dip Schitt.
Against her parents’ objections, Deap Schitt married her cousin Dumb Schitt, a high school dropout. After being married 15 years, Jack and Noe Schitt divorced.
Noe Schitt later married Ted Sherlock, and, because her kids were living with them, she wanted to keep her previous name. She was then known as Noe Schitt Sherlock.
Meanwhile, Dip Schitt married Loda Schitt, and they produced a son with a rather nervous disposition named Chick N. Schitt.
Two of the other six children, Fulla Schitt and Giva Schitt, were inseparable throughout childhood and subsequently married the Happens brothers in a dual ceremony.
The wedding announcement in the newspaper announced the Schitt-Happens nuptials.
The Schitt-Happens children were Dawg, Byrd, and Hoarse. Bull Schitt, the prodigal son, left home to tour the world. He recently returned from Italy with his new Italian bride, Pisa Schitt.
Now when someone says, “You don’t know Jack Schitt,” you can correct them.
Real Kenndey tradegy—Three empty seats.
local zookeeper notices a young female gorilla is acting up lately, throwing feces, banging the bars, and so on… realizes she is in heat, and has really no way to ‘solve’ the problem.
the day passes, the zookeeper is walking back to his car, and notices one of the janitors is picking trash out of the can with his bare hands… he thinks about this for a moment then figures what the hell…
zookeeper asks janitor if he has a minute, janitor replies: what can I do ya fer?
zookeeper: I know this seems like a strange proposition but, for $500 would you like to have sex with our gorilla?
janitor: hold on der a dang minute… thinks about it, on 3 conditions… first you ain’t gonna tell nobody.
zookeeper: not a soul. next condition?
janitor: number two, I ain’t gonna be kissin no gorilla either.
zookeeper: understandable. and lastly?
janitor: you’ll have to give me a week to come up with the $500.
it’s now official
life is stranger than fiction
Florida Man Shoots Cop, Invokes Stand Your Ground!
Only thing left to do is get my war music together.
well someone’s economy is gonna crash ?
China Is Crashing … As Predicted
It is a sheer pleasure to see such an aware and sane bunch of caring folks gathered in a fine circle of American Wagons.
United We Stand…
Divided we fall…
Family and Community…will Save Us All!
**It is a sheer pleasure to see such an aware and sane bunch of caring folks gathered in a fine circle of American Wagons.**
Even better that those gathered are armed..
‘IF YOU LIKE YOUR GUN, YOU CAN KEEP YOUR GUN’ 🙂
Major cyber attack on Ukraine. Massive Russian military excercises in western Russia. 200 billion Russian/US debt dump would hurt, not kill us. But just another nail in our coffin. Keep in mind, Russia has allies. Try to avoid tunnel vision during these coming days. Russia stormed a Ukraiian base in Crimea today. Russia skuttled an old ship to block some of the Ukrainian navy in port. Step by step. Inch by inch. I initially thought this might blow over, but now I’m not so sure. With all those Ukrainians living in the western part of Ukraine, I find it unusual that the guy who is now in power in Kiev, is Jewish.
“I find it unusual that the guy who is now in power in Kiev, is Jewish.” —Why? He came to power by hook and by crook, what else could he be, but a bankster?
Well got some bad news today. Three weeks notice then being laid off.(sigh) Will slow down my storage a bit, but thanks to this site I get good deal on storable food from LDS. Forgot who mentioned it,but thanks to all you guys and gals for your tips.Hope TSHTF does not happen before I get another job…..
sorry about that news southside
hopefully something better will come along quick
I’m not facing a layoff yet
but have taken a BIG cut in pay to keep my job
Another warning? How many is this now? How many years have they been saying, the economic collapse in near. Wasn’t the latest collapse supposed to have happen in November-December 2013 time frame? Well, its four months later and no collapse.
This is has become fear mongering. There is only so many times you can cry wolf before no one believes it anymore.
No disrespect intended, I am just tired of the past years of hearing the collapse is coming soon and then nothing or it’s coming soon but they don’t know when exactly.
I am a patriot like many on this site aware and watching, but all these empty visions of collapse is getting out of hand.
For many the collapse is here. Those who are unemployed. Many companies are closing stores. I await Obama Care. The Dollar is looking sick and the world is tired of it being the Reserve Currency. Foreclosed homes and people with food stamps going the Food Pantry’s in our neighborhood. Crime on the upswing. Major cities bankrupt or have become ghetto’s.
Has taken a few years to get this way.
Thank you for your response and point of view; you make some excellent points. I agree fully that for many the collapse is already in progress and my heart goes out to them knowing the challenges they face, however, the currency fluctuation and manipulation has occurred many times in the past and people have lost their jobs and their homes and with this all of the other points you mention above have coincided as a result and yet, the U.S. has not collapsed.
This is nothing new only that more attention is being paid to it with the availability of the internet and social media that provide avenues of alternative news and point of views. Other administrations (Carter) also experienced faulty economies which also resulted in the above, but again, we as a Nation still prevailed.
Again, I thank you for your point of view and appreciate the debate.
What is Life? by Ugly….
What is life? Is it happiness? Is it popularity? Is it riches or poor? Nobody really knows….
Life is really knowing who you are and whom you are. If you know ‘You’ and are happy, then that is a part of ‘What is Life’….
Scientists make life at the atomic level. They say we are just atoms–protons, neutrons, and electrons. Does an alpha determine me? Is a beta my friend? Should I pay attention to a gamma passing by?
I’m Ugly and I’m somebody….
We are all somebody. Those dudes that are NWO are the clones.
Open thread for night owls: Time to forget the 1%
this article covers a couple of topics
what I found of interest was this
“Here’s an example: It turns out the United States—which has the largest and most complex electric power network in the world, and which is completely and utterly dependent upon electricity for its daily survival—does not have the capability of manufacturing the single most crucial component of its electrical grid: the TRANSFORMER. To be exact, we can make little transformers, but the really big ones that are necessary to push electric current across long distances (which our electric grid is totally dependent on) are somehow beyond our ken. Or, to be more accurate, the 1% have no interest in building the plants and hiring and training the workers to manufacture the very large-size transformers.
They (the 1%) apparently reason that they don’t need to go to that trouble because in our globalized economy there’s somebody else who can build the really big transformers. It turns out that somebody is South Korea. So when, recently, Pennsylvania badly needed a new very-large transformer they placed an order with the Koreans, who promptly began building it. Two years later, the 400,000 pound item was put on a ship and transported for 26 days at sea to the port of Newark, New Jersey, where it was loaded by crane onto a railcar bound for Pennsylvania.”
an EMP or solar storm WILL be devastating
two years to manufacture
and then a month at sea ???
and that is under optimal conditions !
Yep, our fearless leaders who got rid of our manufacturing and industrial capacity were and are a bunch of idiots…
Santori. I like some of your posts… But.. BEFORE YOU POST THIS SHIT ON TRANSFORMERS… spend some TIME RESEARCHING it. Memphis Tenn (bravehearts Jungle) Has Mitsubishi Co with one of the worlds Largest Transformer Manufacturing plants. Some Xformers they build weigh up to 400TONS. SNC out of Oshkosh WI builds large dry type transformers for manufacturing plants. I could go on.
generally speaking the american people have sold their birthright for a bowl of swill and it has turned sour.
HOT PREPPER SWINGER WOMEN! I’M JUST SAYING
Being totally semi-transparent I hereby bequeef ambassadors/Zars to:
M A C to the I R S
European American to Europe
PO’P to all eighteen years olds that sue their parents
Okie to Kenya because he’s probably driven there
Okie to all female cockpits because he ordered twice
As low as $150/month with approved credit
I’m going on vacation
Think about this; if a drop of water is added to a stadium and then one minute later it doubles in size to two drops, and then one minute after that it doubles again to 4 drops, and so on.. doubling in size every minute, how much time do you have to leave your seat and get out of the stadium before the water reaches your seat at the very top?
Think about it for a moment. Is it hours, days, weeks, months?
The first drop of water lands right in the middle of the field, at 1pm.
You have exactly until 1:49pm. It takes less than 50 minutes to fill a whole football stadium with water! This is impressive!
Now, think of that first drop of water as our failed economy of the first year; and that is why we are near a collapse.
It’s an interesting analogy but economics is much more complicated than that. We’re near economic collapse because of all the laws passed by Obama that are killing the economy. Obamacare is the biggest one but there are others too. The dollar is dying but one reason it’s still hanging on is worldwide investor confidence in the dollar.
The metaphor is nice but it all depends on the factor used. Here it is 2. Every step doubles the preceding amount.
It would be good if we could have a more exact idea of the actual factor involved in our real life economic situation. It is probably not 2.
OOps, replace minute with second. thanks.
One thing that’s starting to get me, that is how evil the Jewish Bankers are. I hate to break this to some out there but there are; Catholics, Protestants, Buddhist, Hindu, Wicca, Satanic, Atheists, etc. and yes Jews, so when you say Jewish Bankers is all that’s is mentioned, I think so others need recognition also, so let’s just lump them all (BANKERS) as EVIL. These are my personal thoughts. They are all CROOKS, no matter who they are.
Excerpt from our local paper on Maui
Officials from the Hawai’i Health Connector will conduct an enrollment drive from 9 a.m. to 2 p.m. today at the Micronesian Health & Wellness Resource Fair at the Queen Ka’ahumanu Center’s center stage.
The fair is for people from the Marshall Islands, the Republic of Palau, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, Guam and the Federated States of Micronesia.
there are literally tens of thousands of these immigrants,
not one of them will pay one thin dime for their health insurance and ALL of them will sign up.
Need I say more as to why I will not comply?
The writings are all over our Soviet-style border-walls. Read them before the prole-patrol drones scrub the walls clean again.
If X occurred and Y happened as the experts and semi-experts have been predicting for many years now.. There really isn’t much “One” can really do..
1- if you prepped .. The ones who didn’t prep are coming balls on to take your hoards!!
2- if the banks and stock markets collapse .. And you now have to rely on your hard PMs to barter .. The Ones who didn’t prep are coming balls on to
Take your hoards!!
3- if you plan to stay put.. And take a stand against the ”
Ones” – you will be out numbered and out gunned.. And perish a honorable BUT a horrible demise ..
So .. In reading most of your posts I feel that you want to experience the above??
Believe me bothers and sisters.. You Don’t… It would be Hell on Earth..
I feel change will occur .. The Natural / Selective Way.. And life will go
Just think .. The super Rich and the elite live high $$$ off the poor.. “Why would they allow this great business plan to Evaporate because the experts think a collapse is coming..
I say …live your lives.. Enjoy the spring and summer!!
And just say..
“Sell crazy somewhere else .. We are all stocked up here”
You really want positive change? VOTE all these sell
Out bastards out of public office and put all the morons who are living off those who “Do work” “back to work”..
NCD, spring is here on the wet side of Oregon and one of the signs is, “chicks for sale” and this year I’m replacing my current crop of layers and so today is NCD, new chick day, six each of barred rocks and rhode island reds, in a few more weeks we will be getting a couple of dozen shitkins AKA Cornish X and a couple more turkeys. Putting potatoes in the ground any day now and starting seeds in the green house this weekend. I need to pick up a couple more loads of composted horse manure from a local stable and the garden will be ready for planting. The rhubarbs are starting to pop out of the ground and while on my morning walk I noticed that the wild garlic mustard is growing.
This may be a little off topic, but I was just thinking about this as I was cleaning the bathroom… The US has missile defense systems, right? So if say Russia or China tried to fly a nuke at us, wouldn’t it most likely be exploded overhead somewhere before it even hit the US(stay with me)? But if it gets exploded overhead, that would still cause an EMP, right? So, what if all this posturing in the Ukraine is just to get someone to shoot a nuke, so we can blow it up, causing an EMP that brings down the grid, plunging the US into the chaos that TPTB obviously so desperately want? Because I keep wondering why the global elite would want to nuke the world when they have to live here too?? I mean, obviously they have a plan to destroy us, and we know a grid down situation would be very successful in that way. What do you guys think? This theory also gives me hope, because maybe the people who are prepared for grid down will survive, and hey… that’s us!! 🙂
Well, for starters if the U.S. shot down an incoming missile it would not detonate. The warhead may or may not be damaged in the attack on it and if it is damaged there would be radioactive material falling to Earth but nothing like a nuclear weapon’s detonation. It would be similar to that Russian satellite that crashed in…Canada? (IIRC) long ago. The onboard reactor was recovered with very little nuclear material being spread on the ground. Now if any country with nuclear weapon capability wanted to EMP any other country I don’t think there is a way to stop that from happening. As many have written before the best way to end the U.S.A. would be to launch two or three EMP missiles from the Gulf of Mexico from barges above the U.S. equidistant apart at an altitude of about 250 miles. This would saturate the entire U.S. including Mexico, Canada and Alaska. The only state not getting EMP’d would be Hawaii. As soon as they launched the missiles the barges would be sunk and no one would know what country did it. This scenario has been around the Internet for a long time and I think it is the most feasible. Whatever happens in the near future will be devastating to the U.S. of that I am sure. Hold onto your socks! It’s going to be a rough ride!
It would not cause an EPM, it takes actually detonating the nuke payload, blowing up the missile will not detonate the nuke. If Russia and or China were to send a missile it would be accompanied by hundreds or thousands more with multiple warheads. We would retaliate in the same way, it’s called MAD Mutual Assured Destruction, it’s a product of the 70’s area of the cold war.
The U.S. is now a designated military testing ground for real-time biological and entomological warfare applications using Americans as test subjects under public law 105-85
I just perused the law. What section has what you mentioned in it?
blahhh blahhh blahh, its all tied together…its all bs debt is bs , in the end the plan is to thin the herd.
The year 2014 is starting off with a bang!
Qantas Airlines cuts 5,000 jobs:
IBM Employees Fear Company Will Begin Up To 13,000 Layoffs Tomorrow:
JPMorgan to cut 8,000 jobs:
RadioShack To Close Up To 1,100 Stores:
Women’s clothing retailer Dots is going out of business. They have 359 stores and 3,500 employees:
Staples closing 225 stores:
Dell is laying off 2,000 employees:
Walmart Will Lay Off 2,300 Sam’s Club Workers:
HP to cut 5,000 more jobs in 2014, bringing total layoff count to 34,000
Novartis reorganization quietly claims 3,000 jobs in just 4 months
Macy’s laying off 2,500
Weatherford International to Cut 7,000 Jobs by Mid-Year
Pilgrim’s Pride plant in Boaz, AL closed; 1,200 lose jobs.
PLANT CLOSINGS in 2014
Kellogg closing Charlotte snack plant
Caterpillar closing Pulaski plant
New England Power Plant Closings Pinching Supply
Boehringer Ingelheim closing its Petersburg plant
Entergy to close Vermont Yankee nuclear plant in 2014
Bimbo Bakeries sees more plant closings in 2014
More beef processing plant closings in 2014
GM assembly and powertrain plants closing by the end of 2014
Navistar to Close Alabama Engine Plant
Curiously, the Bureau of Labor Statistics ended their “Mass Layoff Statistics” program last year. They blamed that on the sequestration:
If anything threatens the way Washington conducts its petro-dollar and debt extortion racket, Washington sends in the Army and Navy to kill the offending country civilian population.
Since Russia is too darn big to send the American army into, USA will have to find a proxy nation that is an ally to Russia to send our trained USA killing forces into.
Do we have missile defense systems in the US? I’ve never seen any land based. We have ship and air platforms for anti-missile. When people think of nukes being fired at us, they often only think of land based ICBMs. But enemy subs can slide up close and let some fly, with no reaction time for counter measures. As the Chinese sub commander said, “suplize”!
There is a real good piece over at survivalblog,,,
Eventually things are going to come unglued, doesnt matter what the catalyst is, there is no way that these mere men in washington can control all the aspects of financial or natural, or world events. People like to think they have total control but history is full of examples of a small event that spiraled out of control sometimes leading to a complete collapse of society, if you say cant happen here, good luck with that, would rather not be screwed if you are wrong
Something has to break at some point. This has been going on for years now. They continue to pump the system up. It will not last forever, but it has gone on for so long now no one can really say when it will collapse. The best thing you can do is stay focused on the Lord and do the best you can to prepare your family, spiritually, mentally and/or otherwise.
hyperinflation’s the ONLY way to pay off America’s debt. make it happ’n, capt’n.