Does the US Government Want to Prevent You From Leaving?

by | Jul 19, 2011 | Headline News | 49 comments

Do you LOVE America?


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    Editor’s Note: On numerous occasions we’ve opined that a free society is one in which its citizens are allowed to enter and exit its borders at will, without the intervention of government bureaucracy. As we examine the many changes that have taken place in the US since September 11, 2001, we can’t help but notice a progressively tighter grip on the throats of Americans. Millions have been added to no-fly lists that restrict air travel to any destination, be it domestic or international. Most, like seven year old John Anderson, were added to the list for reasons unknown. And once added, it is nearly impossible to be removed. Today, Americans will dismiss no-fly lists as an inconvenience (unless, of course, they are added), but what happens when this “anti-terror” agenda spreads to no-bus and no-train lists, and worse yet, a list that will restrict your ability to rent a car or even purchase gas? Think it can’t happen? Your papers please wasn’t just a Nazi phenomenon. In the former communist East Block travel was not only restricted across borders, but even from town to town, requiring written permission and a good reason. We may be more technologically advanced than Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union when they sat behind the iron curtain, but looking at these as a model for how to restrict movement of your people is a perfect example of what can be done right here in the USA. Our paper’s, however, are digitally stored and attached to biometrics like our thumbprint or DNA. While they purport to be taking action in the name of preventing terrorism, our government seems to be moving towards restricting travel of American citizens. The borders are wide open for those trying to enter the US, but attempt to leave without proper documentation and you’d be in serious trouble.

    Does the US Government Want to Prevent You From Leaving?

    (Excerpted from Original Article)

    …This weekend’s affair was a clear example of what happens when a government imposes mind-numbing bureaucracy to prevent freedom of movement. And if you think it can’t happen where you live, think again.

    In the US, the government now requires all citizens to have a passport in order to pass the border, even when driving into Mexico or Canada. Obtaining a passport, however, is neither free nor guaranteed.  You must apply, pay an ever-increasing fee, and wait for weeks to be approved and receive it.

    Recently, the State Department quietly proposed a new ‘biographical questionnaire’ in lieu of the traditional passport application. The new form requires you to provide things like:

    • names, birth places, and birth dates of your extended family members
    • your mother’s place of employment at the time of your birth
    • whether or not your mother received pre-natal or post natal care
    • the address of your mother’s physician and dates of appointments
    • the address of every place you have ever lived in your entire life
    • the name and address of every school you have ever attended

    Most people would find it impossible to provide such information, yet the form requires that the responses ‘are true and correct’ under penalty of imprisonment.

    Naturally, the privacy statement on the application also acknowledges that the responses can be shared with other departments in the government, including Homeland Security.

    If this proposal passes, then US citizens will have a nearly insurmountable hurdle to obtain a passport and be able to leave the country at will. Even if it doesn’t pass, it’s a clear demonstration of what the people who run the country are thinking.

    Have you reached your breaking point yet, comrades? Let me know what you think.

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      1. I just got my passport renewed….wahoo 10 more years of freedom 🙂

        • Taking my kids to get theirs renewed today. Stupid govt only gives them 5 years & they are about to expire.

        • Did you feel for the chip in it.

          • You don’t have to “feel” for the chip. The back cover page is solid. long gone are the days of sticking you passport in the back pocket, I’ll break if you do

        • So would those questions be on new applications or renewals also?

      2. The first thing that came to mind was the Berlin wall, and a visual of someone being shot for attempting to climb it.

        Land of the fee, and home of the slave.

        • If this NWO crap goes full swing they won’t have to wait till you climb a wall.

          • What wall? If the NWO goes into full swing there will be no place left to run to find freedom. People risked their lives to get out to freedom. No place will be free.

            • Many countries are more free than USA in 2011.

      3. Does that mean that Barak Obama will have to include his 80 aliases with his SSN obtained in Conneticut?

        • What about the other 25+ SSN he has used? Wow, that would take a while.

        • What would be the penalty for trying to obtain a passport with a forged document? Would it be a felony or a misdemeanor?

          The Kenyan offered a forged LFBC as proof of his eligibility to serve as POTUS.

          • Amazing how despite all the audio/video evidence to the contrary, people who raise the question are called crackpot birthers.

      4. Even a simple drivers license has become a major hassle, 6 piont id really necessary for a renewal?
        These harrassments are for one of two reasons.
        Either wear the average person down.
        Or create jobs where no jobs exists.
        What do you think?

        • I have to admit a silver lining on this one. When I first moved to the People’s Republic of Orygun it was amazing to go to the DMV. Never took more than a couple of minutes and compared to California the registration fees were a real bargain.

          Well over the years, even though you never saw a Mexican in the local grocery store or at any the the local restaurants, the DMV was jammed. I would go down there on Saturday morning a half hour before they opened and there’d be a line of Mexicans clear out into the parking lot waiting for it to open. It was upsetting because at least 4 out of 5 people were obviously illegal aliens. After the new requirements took effect it was like going back in time two decades. Half a dozen customers on average and all speaking English.

          • It’s ALWAYS like that here in CA – you see nothing BUT mexicans and the whole family there with a bun in the oven, and three or four anchors in tow fighting over the stroller. I avoid the DMV at all costs. Even without the usual crowds there, the employees are grade-A jerks.

            • Consider yourself lucky!

          • If I went to Europe (or anywhere else) without a passport, work visa/job waiting, and sufficient funds and attempted to acquire any form of state/national ID, I would be immediately arrested and, if I was lucky, deported. We wouldn’t need the BS if existing laws were simply enforced here. They exist, but that is all. When we just keep rewarding bad behavior, it only increases.

      5. Many people with money are leaving this country..This I know to be fact.
        this government wants to control that, but its too late.
        The ones with enough money time and abilities have been taking thier money out of this country in an effort to hopefully survive the crash thats coming, if they time it right.

        A good friend of mine is constantly harassed when he leaves for his place in South America..because he usually takes the limit in Funds when he goes.
        He has established a place to live, and money in the bank over the past 6 or 8 years,..He knows they are watching him..they know he knows.

        Those with the ability and knowledge are planing to leave, or already have left, and they will take what is rightfully theirs or rightfully earned
        these types are not the problem , but but are showing the government holes in their plan..they will stop it
        and soon.or stop the individual by harassment or false imprisonment

        • 25 years ago the idea of renouncing your UScitizenship was considered insane.

          • Now it might be insane to NOT renounce your USA citizenship ;-(

        • I left the US two and a half years ago. It was a relief to get away from all that misery. My sister-in-laws parting words to me were “it’s not like this place is Zimbabwe, you’ll never get back in when you change your mind”
          Oh how ironic those words sound now.
          Life is what you make it. If you choose to stay in a country that impoverishes you and takes away your Freedoms and Liberty than that’s a choice you make. If you’re happy being steamrolled by the system everyday, then don’t change. Suck it up and be happy with your choice.
          However, if you want better for your children or yourself, then do something about it. Where there’s a will, you’ll find a way. If you want out, you’ll find it.
          Seriously, all you have to do is be out of the US. Why be homeless in say ….Portland or San Francisco ….. Go be homeless in Baha Peninsular Mexico! Go fishing and collect shellfish every day, beats going thru Garbage cans, right?Go on a 12 month working holiday in Australia or New Zealand and pick fruit. Do the same in Europe! Just get on a plane and go!!!!

      6. I’m all for putting my thumb in the eye atop the pyramid, how bout you?

      7. On this new “proposal” you also have to provide a list of every business you have worked for, their current address, the name of your boss and current contact information for him/her.

        Who has that!?!?!?

        • For pity’s sake, I have former employers who are dead ! (Natural causes!)

          what am i supposed to do?

          Mr. JOHN DOE
          1 Heaven’s Place, Apt. 1566284
          Heaven, HV 10000
          (pra) pra-pray (only known phone no.)

          I mean, really, folks! It’s getting ridikerous!

      8. This is crazy. I recently moved and need to obtain a driver’s license in my new state. It used to be that presenting a valid driver’s license from my previous state was good enough to get a new one issued. Instead, I have to go unpack all of my old papers to see if I can find a certified copy of my birth certificate.

        Guess I should dig out my passport and get that renewed as well, before these insane rules kick in.

        • A falsified birth certificate is easily obtained these days. Just ask POTUS.

      9. we’ll just end up doing what the illegals do only in reverse. Sad, very sad!

      10. the entire Obama admin. and the DHS are tools of the Rothschilds… are the British Parliament and the Windsors.

        What we are witnessing herer is the systemic Nazification of the entire world by a controlling elite.

      11. Answer to question.

        Yes, they do want to keep us here. Why? To pay taxes and buy things with our money. They are enslaving us.

        This is starting to look more & more like socialist Germany. In Germany, once you retire, you cannot collect your German retirement money (their social security) if you leave the country. Even though you personally funded it. They just keep your money if you move out of the country.

        That may not be here yet but I’ll bet its coming soon….

      12. IMHO the best solution is to get the passport BEFORE the proposal could possibly go through. This is really unbelievable, but given what else TPTB have been pulling since 9/11, it isn’t surprising.
        On a related note: I know a man who moved here from communist/fascist Germany during the cold war -he risked his life to cross the wall so he could come to “the land of the free”. Last week while we were chatting, he said that he is right back where he started living in a police-state, but now he is too old to get out.

      13. If this goes through trust me when I tell you having ‘that passport’ isn’t going to stop them from enforcing the new regs on you 🙂 They will simply send a letter telling you to report (at your convienence of course) to xyz so that your information can be updated. Until such time, your passport is restricted…Oh, they will give you time (say 1 year) but you will give it up.
        Control means power and the power elite want to stay cushy cushy in their seat and they will get what they want until such time they are ejected.

      14. It seems too many people are thinking about leaving rather than defending what is theirs.

        Make your self and your stuff invisible to the corp, fight it when you need to protect it.

        • The point is, Americans aren’t defending what’s theirs. They are allowing it to happen.
          Why not leave and build a new life? What’s happening now will still be happening in 10 years, No-one has yet stood up to defend and fight for YOUR rights. So you may as well go someplace decent to live and enjoy life.

      15. Smells like Treason

      16. I have looked at the form in question. It’s in the propsal stages. It’s also designed for those who were NOT born in a hospital or institute setting. It’s for those who were born at home, abroad, ect. The form is not in use. It’s still being debated and would not apply to anyone born in a hospital or medical setting. I do not know if it will be implimented. I hope not.

        • Yet

        • Not fast enough, too high profile..and out on the seas when they do catch up with witnesses..bang bang..they take your boat and stuff

          • You’re making a number of assumptions.

            The ocean is big, very big. You ever been out there?

            I already know of many locations where very few go (and not necessarily circumnavigating high traffic lanes in the process). And the few that do go, are neither the Coast Guard nor Pirates…”bang bang”.

            There’s always the possibility of being picked off in route, but out at sea vs land locked as most will be, I’d choose the odds at sea, any day.

            Besides, right now, at this moment, it’s a piece of cake. That’s what we are talking about, right?

            • I guess timing is everything..go now

              Oh have heard of radar right?

              and they catch cigarette boats all day long that do close to 70

              If they think your a value target..your done..

              if they dont, you have a chance.
              give us a shout when you end up someplace safe, that will take your money speak your language and feed you with out a question of where you came from

      17. With respect….I dont have one,dont want one…aint leaving,wont be driven out either,bred here,born/raised here will die and be buried here,this is my piece of ground…my heritage… these globalist bassturds aint getting rid of me that easy,its gonna cost em big time!

      18. No matter how dreary it becomes, home is home. I have the cash to leave but the adjustment would be quite rough. You will always be a foreigner in a foreign land.

      19. That’s the spirit REB.

      20. 5 pages of BS I can’t remember and couldn’t find even if I had to… I think I’d rather apply for a bank loan.


      22. I’m glad I have duel citzenship to Italy… in fact I travel on the Italian passport more that the American.

      23. You can walk across the border into Mexico without a passport.

        You just can’t get back in.

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