This article was written by Michael Snyder and originally published at his End of the American Dream blog.
Editor’s Comment: In a world largely controlled by the Federal Reserve and other central banks who are manipulating the very notion of currency, cash is – and remains – a revolutionary act.
It is no surprise that the powers that be have set out to destroy cash. It is demonized and portrayed as a criminal instrument of the black market, assuming that few are paying attention to the actions in Washington and on Wall Street. Cash represents an economy outside of their control, which they can’t tax, add fees to, or multiply in the fractional reserve system. Outliers become enemies in system of government that is interested only in control. The digital control grid offers all the freedom and flexibility of smart devices and electronic transfers – a convenience that comes with strings attached, surveillance and the power to destroy anyone dependent upon the system who might become “unauthorized.”
The Beast System Arises: The Largest Bank In Norway Calls For The Elimination Of Cash
by Michael Snyder
The biggest bank in Norway is calling for the complete and total elimination of cash. Many local bank branches in Norway already don’t deal in cash, but that is not good enough for DNB. They want a blanket ban on the use of cash, and they are selling this as a way to crack down on criminals and money launderers. But in the end, the truth is that they want to be able to force everyone in society to use the banks and it would enable them to collect fees on almost every transaction. It is an agenda that is being driven by greed, but it could also open the door for great tyranny. Unfortunately, we are not just seeing aggressive movement toward a cashless society in Norway. It is also happening in Sweden, in Denmark and in many other nations all around the globe. The Beast system is rising, and yet very few people out there even seem alarmed by this.
When I first learned about what was happening in Norway, I was absolutely stunned. I have ancestors that came over to America from over there, and I had no idea that this was happening. The following comes from the International Business Times…
The largest bank in Norway has called for the country to stop using cash, the Local reported Friday. This comes as the latest move in a country that has been leading the global charge toward electronic money in recent years, with several banks already not offering cash in their branch offices and some industries seeking to cut back on paper currency.
Of course this idea is being sold as something that will be really good for Norwegian society. DNB promises that eliminating cash will help authorities crack down on criminal activity and money laundering. Here is more from the International Business Times…
“Today, there is approximately 50 billion kroner in circulation and [the country’s central bank] Norges Bank can only account for 40 percent of its use. That means that 60 percent of money usage is outside of any control. We believe that is due to under-the-table money and laundering,” Trond Bentestuen, a DNB executive, told Norwegian website VG, the Local reported.
“There are so many dangers and disadvantages associated with cash, we have concluded that it should be phased out,” he added.
But in addition to catching more criminals, there are many other reasons why governments really like the idea of a cashless society. It would also mean that no financial transaction would escape taxation, and it would also enable them to watch, track and monitor everything that we do much more closely.
And banks would be absolutely thrilled with a cashless society. Every member of society would be forced to use the system, bank runs would be eliminated, and every time we swipe our cards they would collect a fee.
In addition, there would be absolutely no escaping the bank bail-ins that are coming in Europe. If there was no way to pull your money out of the system, there would be no way to avoid the kind of theft that has now been institutionalized by European authorities. I covered the brand new bail-in rules that went into effect in Europe on January 1st, 2016 in a previous article…
If you have a bank account anywhere in Europe, you need to read this article. On January 1st, 2016, a new bail-in system will go into effect for all European banks. This new system is based on the Cyprus bank bail-ins that we witnessed a few years ago. If you will remember, money was grabbed from anyone that had more than 100,000 euros in their bank accounts in order to bail out the banks. Now the exact same principles that were used in Cyprus are going to apply to all of Europe.
Sadly, we are now witnessing a major push toward a cashless society all over the planet.
It is happening in China, in India, and all over Europe. In fact, some nations in Europe have already banned cash transactions over a certain level. Here are just a couple of examples…
As I have written about previously, cash transactions of more than 2,500 euros have already been banned in Spain, and France and Italy have both banned all cash transactions of more than 1,000 euros.
Little by little, cash is being eradicated, and what we have seen so far is just the beginning. 417 billion cashless transactions were conducted in 2014, and the final number for 2015 is projected to be much higher.
Of course the epicenter for the transition to a cashless society continues to be northern Europe.
Denmark intends to entirely eradicate cash by the year 2030, and the transition to a cashless society in Sweden is now almost complete…
Did you know that 95 percent of all retail sales in Sweden are cashless? And did you know that the government of Denmark has a stated goal of “eradicating cash” by the year 2030? All over the world, we are seeing a relentless march toward a cashless society, and nowhere is this more true than in northern Europe. In Sweden, hundreds of bank branches no longer accept or dispense cash, and thousands of ATM machines have been permanently removed. At this point, bills and coins only account for just 2 percent of the Swedish economy, and many stores no longer take cash at all. The notion of a truly “cashless society” was once considered to be science fiction, but now we are being told that it is “inevitable”, and authorities insist that it will enable them to thwart criminals, terrorists, drug runners, money launderers and tax evaders. But what will we give up in the process?
The potential for tyranny is what has me concerned more than anything.
Just imagine a world where you could not buy, sell, get a job or open a bank account without participating in “the system”.
If you chose to opt out, how would you and your family survive?
And it would be way too easy for the government to set requirements for participation in the system. For example, they could make it illegal to sell to anyone without the proper government-issued form of identification, or they could require some form of loyalty oath as a pre-condition for enrollment.
The war on cash is a direct assault on the fundamental liberties and freedoms that we enjoy today. They may promise us that a cashless society will make our lives better right now, but tomorrow I am afraid that it could open the door to tyranny on a level that most of us would have never even imagined.
Michael T. Snyder is a graduate of the University of Florida law school and he worked as an attorney in the heart of Washington D.C. for a number of years.
Today, Michael is best known for his work as the publisher of The Economic Collapse Blog and The American Dream.
If you want to know what is coming and what you can do to prepare, read his latest book [amazon text=Get Prepared Now!: Why A Great Crisis Is Coming & How You Can Survive It&asin=150522599X].
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….no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.
Like going down to the Motor Vehicle Agency to get new tags for your car.
or renew your ID or “drivers” license, or apply for an FFL, or renew your CCW/Carry permit, or have internet access, or a cell phone, own property, pay your taxes, tithe… in other words, without the mark your an Orwellian “nonperson”.
KEEP USING YOUR CREDIT/DEBIT CARDS YOU FUKKIN IDIOTS! God I hate going to the store and watching all the morons using cards to buy shit. A 2 dollar purchase and they whip out the card. Good riddance to those who are so stupid they conform to every convienience they can find.
Genius, I still use my cash for all my prep shopping. In my area you would think cash is already banned. I get all kinds of dirty looks from people when I pay for my merchandise with cash and they think it’s the end of the world when they have to wait just a little bit while the cashier makes change for me. That “plastic convenience” carries a price tag I’m not willing to pay.
RE: “they think it’s the end of the world when they have to wait just a little bit while the cashier makes change for me.”
WTH are you talking about?! Every time I’m waiting in line the credit card transactions take forever! A cash transaction is Always faster. Always.
Every. Single. Stinkin’. Time.
“plastic convenience” my ass.
Dead broke and up to their neck in debt convenience, is more like it.
half these cashiers rely on the automatic change dispensers and for the register to do the math. when they break down the cant manage to perform even a simple function like making change. Its frighening in a way.
The chip is “wonderful”, just listen to this article about a company ALREADY using the chip on their employees in Sweden.
Jan. 2015 – Office puts chips under staff’s skin
“The chip allows employees to open doors and use the photocopier without a traditional pass card.”
“Epicenter, a new hi-tech office block in Sweden, they are trying a different approach – a chip under the skin.
Felicio de Costa, whose company is one of the tenants, arrives at the front door and holds his hand against it to gain entry. Inside he does the same thing to get into the office space he rents, and he can also wave his hand to operate the photocopier.
That’s all because he has a tiny RFID (radio-frequency identification) chip, about the size of a grain of rice, implanted in his hand.
Soon, others among the 700 people expected to occupy the complex will also be offered the chance to be chipped. Along with access to doors and photocopiers, they’re promised further services in the longer run, including the ability to pay in the cafe with a touch of a hand.”
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-31042477
And like in the movie “Nemesis”, when your time is up, you have an accident.
Ron,
I believe it will be VOLUNTARY at first, then later mandatory. At first, the government will come up with incentives to “encourage” folks to get their chip and then later fines.
I believe anyone who is receiving government money (EBT, welfare, social security, etc.) will be pushed FIRST into getting the chip.
This “plan” has been in the works for a while now. I read articles about chip reader machines that were in many Walmart stores around the country.
At one time, an article even posted a map showing what stores had these machines.
Obamacare is a big part of establishing and maintaining CONTROL over the population.
Walmart (and Sam’s Club) Install Obamacare RFID Chip Scanning Health Machines
“The SoloHealth Station can test vision, measure weight and read blood pressure.”
The devices and Walmart SoloHealth Stations are just some of the commercial and infrastructure changes which will be utilized in conjunction with the Affordable Healthcare Act.
A possible connection between RFID use and the new healthcare legislation can be found in HR 3962 Section 2571 subsection (B), which discusses use of Class II & III devices alongside a “Medical Device Registry.”
http://guardianlv.com/2013/12/walmart-installs-obamacare-rfid-chip-scanning-health-machines/
Note: The link (below) no longer works without an employee ID and password.
SoloHealth Station Locator
https://solohealth.com/
Excellent post, KY.
666 anyone?
Two quotes from Churchill:
Science burrows its insulted head in the filth of slaughterous inventions.
he Dark Ages may return—the Stone Age may return on the gleaming wings of Science; and what might now shower immeasureable material blessings upon mankind may even bring about its total destruction. Beware! I say. Time may be short.
Referring to the discovery of atomic energy, but certainly applicable here
“And without the mark, no man can buy or sell.” More or less. I guess in one respect it doesn’t much matter whether this is scriptural prophesy coming true, or the so-called “elites” chose to engineer events using the New Testament, especially Revelations, as a script. It happens the same way – up to nearly the last. Of all the times to be old.
Exactly my thoughts, Ian MacLeod. Exactly.
I posted this elsewhere and felt kind of optimistic, after reading this article and the comments, not so much. This is from a person who survived being ruled by the Nazis, strafed by the Americans, and ruled again by the Communists:
“To this day, I am appalled when I hear sentences like:” to be politically correct!” It starts right here. Let everyone give this some thought and think about how many things there are that one disagrees with.. but ‘goes along’ with for the sake of fitting in.. or sparing oneself trouble. I could name a lot of things, but everyone of us have our own examples. […]
What I learned was this: “Any type of control.. will rob you of everything that makes life worth living”, not even food is as important as freedom. Here I want to say something to America: “Beware.. Wake up! Do not give one inch of your freedoms away, not even one! If you only give a finger.. the whole body will be taken!”” …
I’m afraid I’d refuse that particular blackmail. If there’s a physical way to avoid being “chipped”, I’ll grow a garden, learn more wild-crafting and hunting skills, whatever it takes. For that matter, I’d likely remove a chip myself if I had to. I have a personal detestation for the whole concept; I wouldn’t get my CATS CHIPPED, and I love them dearly… I get a feeling about the concept like I do in the presence, or anticipating being in the presence, of someone I feel is evil. This is something I’d not do to an animal. To a human being? NO!
Here’s to hoping the pre-tribulational model of eschatology turns out to be correct, because I really don’t want to be here for what’s to come!
It’s not. …..keep preppin and praying.
If it doesn’t, then the best preps one can do are ones that increase one’s ability to be mobile and live off the land and under the radar. It would be more about knowledge and less about equipment. Your property will be confiscated, so you will only be able to have that which you can carry on your person. Your best bet would be to live near a vast wilderness area with very little human activity (think Alaska or Siberia)and await the inevitable. When it finally starts in earnest you will be positioned to easily disappear. Being anywhere near a city is certain death since the surveillance net is already in place to make movement very difficult. Eventually you would be caught or killed.
Amen 123456, your are (unfortunately for many) right on target!
Blessings,
I thought that pre-tribulation gig was great and believed that nonsense for years. I wasn’t real happy when I realized it wasn’t true. The name it and claim it, best life now and rapture ready crowd are literally in for one hell of a surprise.
http://www.newstarget.com/2016-01-25-disturbingly-high-number-of-u-s-voters-support-bombing-the-fictional-city-agrabah-because-it-sounds-muslim-poll-claims.html
1400 years is long enough to forge a judgment about a race.
Islam should not be permitted t survive. Or at least it should be quarantined.
Islam isnt a race. It is a Religion.
Oh, well that makes it Okey-Odkey!
islam is a totalitarian political system masquerading as a religion. In prisons it is just another gang, but gets special privileges because it is called a religion (Prislam).
Lke Africans and Arabs in general, completely incompatible with a civilized society.
http://www.newstarget.com/2016-01-25-the-top-problems-that-drive-civilizations-to-extinction.html
The worse scenarios for us IMHO would be pandemic or grid down.
Economic collapse is easily survivable if you are off grid and sustainable.
Maybe so but it’s hard to do while on SSDI and disabled. *sigh* Especially in a pissant little town in which only the junkie population seems to be increasing! Can’t shoot ’em, can’t get ’em arrested either. It might interrupt PD’s coffee break. Or something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQtMaJJUvZY
http://www.newstarget.com/2016-01-25-how-to-bugout-and-not-leave-a-trail.html
Exactly, Ron. As with the rest of you, under NO circumstances will I be getting the 666 stamped on my forehead… or anywhere else. Period.
Best case is that this is just the return of Vidkun Quisling.
Worst case, it is the beginning of the tribulation.
And the people implementing this will, sooner or later, end up in the same *literal* Hell that Hitler, Eichmann and others are in if they do not change their ways. This is not a threat, it is a fact.
Well it’s gotta start somewhere. When all the fiat cash is piled high and set ablaze then the new system will be ushered in. I’m sure that it is probably close to being put in place when our better’s see fit. I sense there are many who will line up and sleep on sidewalks just to be the first to receive the chip or tattoo/mark. I’ll still be filling more mags and waiting for those who will come collect the non compliant.
Adaptation, there definitely is no point in just going along to get along anymore, ill be bartering, theres lots of people here who live on the fringe and will not participate
An alternative currency will find it’s way into Norway.
Just look at this lesson from the American Civil War where encased postage stamps were used as a means to solve a coin shortage.
Ironic that the inventor was named John Gault.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gault
Quite interesting,
I wonder if this is where Ayan Rand got the name from?
There already are alternative currencies available like Bitcoin, as well as silver and gold “junk” coins.
Money? I recommend hard cast lead bullets.
Denominations in grains. 55 grains for the poodle poppers; 148 grains for the .38, .357; 170 grains for the 30-30, 3006 and .308; 200 to 230 grains for the .45 ACP and rifles of 30 caliber, .303 British and bigger; 250 grains for the 35 Whelen, .44 Special and .44 Magnum; 270 grains for the .375 H&H, 410 grains for the 416 Rigby; 500 grains for the 45-70, and the British double rifles.
Then there are the gas checks, where needed, for the above. Gas checks made of PM – brass, copper and aluminum.
Now you are talking money, real money.
Even though one might not own those calibers mentioned above one should collect the molds to cast those common popular bullets.
Totally agree. It sounds like people will start bartering….I know that’s what I’ll be doing if this gets kicked into action.
I lived in Peru for a while and they instituted a national ID card and linked it to everything. When you buy something at the store it is entered into your file. It was of course to fight terrorism but today it is used to go after individuals and small businesses for taxes. Rich people just pay off the government but the middle class are completely shafted. The gov just shows up at your door and seizes everything you own.
Ed, it is always to fight terrorism. Somehow they can’t fight banksters already in this system! They never quit.
Rebecca: Or for the children.
We The Few!!
Rebecca, that’s the excuse that’s been given ever since 9/11 when it’s really a war against we the people. I won’t take any damn mark of the beast. That’s when I’ll be at war with the NWO.
Braveheart,
I don’t know what to do but say no and face the punishment. The Bible is clear that we cannot accept the mark of the beast. So the Bible tells us where the line is drawn, we don’t have to figure it out.
Rebecca, AMEN to that. Even without the Bible, I will still reject the mark.
They have already eliminated toll booths in my state so that now you cannot just pay your toll and use the road. Instead, you are required to have an RFID tag on your car which is read by a machine and automatically debits your account. Alternatively, they also have license plate readers and will bill you through the mail. The interesting thing is that they now have what appear to be RFID transceivers posted along all the major non-toll roads and cameras are popping up at every major intersection. SO yeah, the infrastructure of control is being put in place as we speak.
A friend of mine went out and bought a new car because the tlol booths were using the license plate readers. His plan was to not put the plate on for 6 months.
He got bills almost immediately for using the toll roads. Obviously new cars already have a built in RFID of some type.
How exactly did he intend to not get in trouble for driving an unregistered car for 6 months? Sounds a little half baked to me.
Winston Smith,
What is your Myers Briggs result?
I looked up the autism reference, it was pretty funny and reminded me of horoscopes I am a Pisces, too. And a Chinese sign of the Wood Horse. Every time I read about any of them, there is a dramatic difference based on the viewpoint of the author. They all 3 say I am not materialistic, which is about right.
“Well it’s gotta start somewhere. When all the fiat cash is piled high and set ablaze then the new system will be ushered in.”
That’s how I see it as well. But it’s also pretty obvious that TPTB are tightening the screws on the serfs to entangle them more in the system with their updated bag of tricks. They better do it now before the serfs catch on to the game.
Cash eventually will be banned worldwide and the only use for it will be Black Markets.
The serfs will mostly just play along. You have to realize what the nature of a person of average intelligence is to understand why. Most people don’t think, they emote. This makes them easy to manipulate. They lack the critical thinking skills to not only see what’s going on, but what they can do to change it. Instead they look for someone else to make their decisions for them. A cashless society will be a solution to a set of problems that either exist currently or will be invented as a pretext to pull the serfs into thinking it is in their best interest.
Winston, you right, most people emote. They also “get” it when others emote and facts make no difference. We took the Myers Briggs test at work and it pegged every emote person in our department.
I’ll take a wild guess and say you scored INTJ?
Winston Smith,
Accurate guess. I am pretty obvious as are all INTJs. There were 2 of us in our group, 25% instead of 1% national. 2 more next step over. The emotes are the mean ones. My cohort and I were quiet workaholics… and the softest spoken. Don’t push easy, though.
Intellectual property law has more than its share and the bosses always wished for more.
I worked in sales and was top from my first month out. How does that fit in?
The interesting thing too is that INTJ and INTP are the types that most closely correlate to the autistic spectrum. Now this is not to say everyone who has those traits is diagnosable as autistic, but many do fit into the “broader autistic phenotype”. I researched the topic a few years back and it actually taught me a lot about human psychology from a variety of different perspectives. It also let me help a close friend of mine understand his child who has unofficially been diagnosed with Asperger’s.
Winston Smith,
That is amazing, I will look it up. My son is on my end of the spectrum, as were my parents as is his son. It always seemed pretty peaceful and loving to me… a bunch of quiet ones. We lived out of town, too. I don’t know a thing in the world about autism, I don’t know anyone in the family with that. I looked up some things aboutmy type, but none of it explains why I was successful at sales. My boss said I was great with the customers and I thought it was fun even though not mentally challenging. He always said they have to like you. I liked them mos t of the time… halfway there. Still, sales isn’t what you’d think of first.
Barter hard cast lead bullets, like Semper Fi, y’all said. That way you are your own Mint.
Barter King, stock pile large amounts of lead, wheel weights and tin. Antimony also.
The .45 ACP is King. And don’t forget the 30-06.
just because its digital doesn’t mean it wont be another fiat money………
“new” does not equate “better”
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Power hungry people have an addiction … they are addicted to power. They are control freaks who have to control EVERYTHING!
Most government employees fall into this category of control freaks, in their minds it makes perfect sense so why would anyone not comply.
Kula, control freaks are on my list and should be on everyone else’s.
If i’m not mistaken, there is already a reporting system in the United States that requires documentation of any deposit or withdrawal of 10,000 or more. Governments thirst for more control over what people do with their money. Scary stuff! If we move to a digitized system, i think the noose will get tighter over the common working man.
I am told the new magic number is $7000.00. It takes two trips to get ready for my trip to Cherokee, N.C. (wsop)
Most banks around me you have to put in a request for cash a couple days ahead if you want more than a.few grand. And it’s 10 grand for federal reporting but if they think you’re suspicious they will report any amount.
Molon labe
Think its 3,000
you are much closer.Can’t tell you, legally. no limit if they suspect you. All banking employees are trained to suspect you. Report first. Also, illegal for them to notify you they are reporting on you. Etc. I think they are not even allowed to tell you the amount. You guys are lambs in the slaughterhouse. Every single electronic action you take is tracked and analyzed. has been for years. In addition to Totaliterrorism also to track money laundering. Money laundering is an odd thing. Seems its OK for big.gov to deal drugs and commit very illegal acts; but, no competition allowed. Not that I support the criminals. If I were made supreme ruler, I’d punish all crime – even state-sponsored crime.
Kula
Yep. Not sure if you buy gold or silver bullion too.
Unfortunately thats way beyond my means at the moment, just lucky my sweetheart is helping me out, would be screwed otherwise
yes, its down to 3k now, and god help you if you take out four $1000 withdrawals in a month, or you’ll get a visit from someone asking why you’re circumventing the letter of the law. ask me how I know.
did you tell them to go fuck themselves, its your dam money?
If not what kind of groveling did you have to do?
Happened to me for depositing money. They said I was structuring it.
Then my bank got all surprised when I shut down all my accounts and closed all my loans and credit cards with them.
Took me 3 years and another visit before I got all my money out.
Guess im lucky i havent got two nickels to rub together at the moment, think my free checking account has 32$ in it
I’m with you Kula, and how I know it’s gonna get bad is because I can’t afford it right now. Just paid my slave property/school taxes, it cleaned me out. Crops didn’t do well and ever year my herd gets smaller, that’s my money. Now I see my preps are below where I like to see them.
Its funny, but not really what took me what seem like a life time to build has only took seven years to diminish to all most nothing . A rentel property I sold and took a beaten, a small business I’ve closed all do to the Financial end of keeping everything going in these times. I’m seeing almost hole towns for sale around here, its sad. Taxes are killing most around here and I’m sure some are over their head with bills. businesses are closing left and right places that been open sense I was a kid closed.another mine just closed, I’m sure they will all lose their houses/ trucks/toys same with the construction/ Union guys it’s bad around here. But don’t worry everything is fine with the economy.
PA Farmer,
I hear ya. I’ve taken so many smacks upside the head I am afraid for the last one. Hang in there, it’s all there is to do. I can only hope and believe we’ll come out the other side. Take care.
Marcus,
Somehow I missed the 3 grand rule. Are you sure?
I believe the notification is for (only)withdrawals of $10,000 or more. As well as paying cash for something over $10k.
nope. But Wikipopulia thinks the same as you. hilarious.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspicious_activity_report
Like I said, it may be illegal for someone at your bank branch to tell you; and, if you ask, they may be required to file a report on you. Get with the program. Stop living in the 1900’s.
Digital cash means the banks can print up money. Not the Federal reserve or the Governments of the world.
Having been in IT for a while. Do they think every transaction and digital penny will be confirmed instantaneously. Imagine waiting in line during peak times to buy something.
And no, I have ZERO confidence that they will be able to control how much money the banks issue. I expect fraudulent digital cash beyond imagination.
The “federal” reserve is just a bank, and its story is very interesting.
You mean the Feral reserve.
You go as far as you can go without the system and then you either fight against it or die starving. I thought I would not live to see this all come down but now I feel I will catch the beginning of the end. So mode it be.
interesting, you used it here since “so mote it be” is actually a Pagan/masonic phrase…
Thank you for the correction. I’m getting sloppy in my wording.
It is on it’s way here as well. Many banks are closing their brick and mortar offices, getting rid of tellers and making it as hard as possible for people to use cash. Bank of America has been closing banks like crazy and installing electronic tellers in the ones still open. If you want to talk to a live teller, get in line and wait an hour. They have been pushing for a ban on all cash transactions for awhile now. Once they make it mandatory to use electronic transactions, they can charge what they want and restrict what you buy. Some cards already refuse to accept gun store transactions and refuse to let marijuana dealers in Colorado use bank accounts. Businesses are doing away with cash transactions as well. Most, if not all Apple stores only accept cards, no cash. I went to buy a fridge recently and they only had one cash register that accepted cash transactions. They rang up my purchase and when I pulled out cash they had to void out the sale and go to a special register that took cash. They were shocked that anyone would pay $1300 in cash for anything.
Had a similar problem recently in a Walmart store of all places. I paid in cash for groceries and the clerk wasn’t completely set up for a cash transaction. He had to ask the manager to get the needed cash to complete the transaction. OMG, the folks behind me were not very happy that they had to undergo the slightest inconvenience. Grumbling and complaining. I said “Hey,I’m not the one who is unprepared for this”. My question to these folks is” what they will do when their convenient cards don’t work? Peace
Recently went into wallmart for God knows what i cant remember, but the three transactions in front of me were all government assistance cards and a voucher, the lady running the stand couldnt make change for a 50, same thing, had to get a manager, they examined the 50 like it came from Mars,,,
Dont think ill be going back to wallmart.
Old man in WI, welcome and LOL. I still use cash for most of my transactions also. I get dirty looks from people with cards all the time, but I don’t care.
My husband used At&T for years and when I discovered they charged $5 for a cash pmt. I changed service to Bluegrass.
This fee for cash pmt. was stopped a few months later.
It’s odd that Apple is allowed to get away with it due to legal tender laws. It even states on US dollar bills that it is “legal tender for all laws public or private”. As for gun stores and marijuana dispenseries, I would hope people would have enough common sense to realize that these are places to use cash at. Do you really want to leave a trail of digital breadcrumbs when making a purchase that could come back to bite you in the future?
They need a lawsuit.
The problem is it says “This note is legal tender for all debts public and private”. Purchases are not considered debt, but transactions. That is how they get away with it. There is no requirement for anyone to accept cash for purchases.
Thanks JAS I know they pretty much have all the bases covered they are quite a slippery and sometimes vague bunch.
Bet the leaderships in the WDC ….CORPORATION are frothing at their collective pie holes.
What will the Crime Rate be like?
This isn’t new they have been trying to do this for years. Hells Bells they have C.C. now check cashing cards, and I’ll bet a lot of folks here have them. Cashless System. My P.D. makes you do direct deposit for your check, add that to check cashing card, and BAM you have cashless system.
One thing I do every 2 weeks is go to the bank and take out everything but for what I need to pay my bills, and then I write a check because you can’t your utility bills locally any more you have to send them to B.F.E
BAM cashless system.
Sure you can still get gas, food, and other things with cash, but you can use your card just as easy.
You know it would be easier to crash a cashless system or change the value of the system by going this way.
SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One thing they can’t do is take away the price of P.M. So get as much as you can. Silver, Gold, Lead, ECT.ECT.
Sgt.
So what will the tourists do if they cannot spend cash?
Does this mean that Norway no longer wants tourists?
Visa!
Whats in your wallet!
Moths and an old condom.
Mine looks like George Kantstandyas walket on Seinfeld…
Plus moths
I have only been in two businesses in my town that refused cash, and both of them are out of business now.
The first was J.C. Penney. They couldn’t take cash for a catalog order. So I bought a gift card for the exact amount using cash and then used the gift card for the catalog order.
The other place was Arby’s. They had a problem with the cash register and couldn’t figure out how to make change on their own. But they would take a credit card. I told them that was stupid as hell and walked out.
If a business won’t take my cash, they won’t see me again.
They have declared war on all fronts.
And backs,,,,,
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DowntoEarthThinking.com says:
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January 24, 2016 at 4:36 pm
Oath Keepers are not only veterans. They are also current and prior law enforcement and current military as well. But ANYBODY can join OKs as a support member. There is also the 3%ers as well and other liberty movement groups that deserve your support also.
Ron Ahrens says:
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January 4, 2016 at 7:50 am
All members of the Oathkeepers organization of cowardly fascist boot licking fat ass chemically altered treasonous shit stains should NOT BE TRUSTED ANY LONGER. The Oathkeeperrs are nothing but a group of cowardly fat ass old drunken bums who love their fascist government and award ceremonies. After the collapse and civil war, the treasonous shit stains in the government run Oathkeepers organization will all be rounded for TREASON trials, right along with their fascist allies in the US Government of pure evil filthy vile scum like the world has never seen.
Thank you, yes I do not want any cowardly Oathkeepers, they are done as an organization anyway, they proved it in Burns keyboard coward and my little snowflake. Look at the comments on their own page, and you see the cowardice of the admitted fat old drunks, and no we do not want those or deranged loons like you snowflake.
R.A.
Wish you luck. You are going to need it.
Elimination of cash?
Won’t happen.. How would the politicians collect their bribes?
They dont get cash these days. They get stock options and Speaking engagements that net them 125 million over 10 years.
Ed
It don’t end there. Their kids get very high paying jobs like Biden’s son in the gas industry in the Ukraine. The possibilities are virtually endless.
Crime utilizing cash is for stick up men and street level dope dealers.
I know personally two from NY that wanted cash under the table bribe for supporting a grant for my old business. They were famous senators then. I refused and didn’t get it. What you say is true, for I witnessed it.
Note from Idaho.
Payment will be in one form or another but they will get paid/Bribed.
We can Barter… yes, it means weeding out people who’ll only take and not give, but then we’ll find people we trust, like in the old days, and we’ll work with them. There is always a way, don’t let ’em shackle the mind and make us think that there isn’t…
Where to go when that time comes SAmerica on a rual beach with jungle wont freeze but what to contend with bugs filthy monkeys flicking poo at you. Could grow crops.and fish. Or dissapear into canadian mountains and freeze or starve but would have meat but no crops. Or stay and live by the sword and die by the sword
. Im sure there are some really rual areas along S American coast gulf side but dieing from malaria or bot fly maggots would suck
I think all you folks should leave the country. Leave the prairies and mountains to me. You do that I’ll go back to making my own black powder. It’s not hard to save seeds.
I’m already stocked up with penicillin and such.
And the fishing, my it will be fat doins’.
I don’t think many will leave, however, freebes endless, and commies on every corner.
I’m locked and loaded, and ain’t it grand.
I meant, ain’t it Garand.
My daughter goes to OSU and doesn’t need any cash. It’s a cashless society on campus and off. The businesses around campus are set up to take their college I.D. She was home this weekend and I asked if she needed any cash and she didn’t need a dollar. She said she has her card! The grooming has begun. Just a matter of time before we are a cashless society. Think it will take some time though.
Tried to get a membership to the YMCA and they wouldn’t take cash but would with draw it from my bank account all I had to do was give them my account number. Yea right! Told them that was stupid and they aren’t getting my business. But judging by the amount of people in there most don’t mind.
Its all around us, just look at all the smart phones nodding into a receiver next time your buying a cup of java
DOW down 111 pts. 15.982 Bloomberg
The applications are limitless. You are a dissident, so your digital money gets restricted or shut off. You can’t move out of state because they won’t let your card be used out of state. Or, they want to move you out of state, so your card only works where they want you to move. Etc.
Or if you owe taxes, any transactions can be blocked; exactly what is being proposed.
Not only blocked, but confiscated directly from your account.
it someone advocates a cashless society a small group of people should rough them up a bit as a form of communication
“Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands
around reloading”.
– Thomas Jefferson
We The Few!!
Yep, too easy to use the card. There will be a lot of black market trading going on. Can you imagine what EMP would do to a system like this ?
The youth today would graft a chip into their head and wear antenna like the 60s series My Favorite Martian if it facilitated increased social media communication and ease. They can’t add, subtract, multiply or divide without some calculating device. Have them try to make change without the above; its so sad that its laughable. They read predominately internet shorthand and text messages to people 10 ft away.
They’re rapidly just becoming part of The Machine rather than controlling it.
Cards only, means total control. Barter has serious restrictions. How many people can barter well enough to get across the country? Out of the country? Very small percentage. Barter for surgery? At a hospital? Good luck with that. Think big. Bartering around your town might work for you, if that’s all you need, well then, the Feds have you restricted to your town. They win. The system has to break or we’re done for.
Observer
Your 100% correct. Those outside of the system will be a cave man with about the same life expectancy once medical care and medicine are removed.
I have no doubt that Madison Avenue has already worked on how to sell it to the masses; “Its the best weapon in the war on drugs, war on terrorism, war on poverty”. What is conveniently left out is the war on individuality and freedom.
China Warns “Social Stability Threatened” As 400,000 Steel Workers Are About To Lose Their Jobs
“For us this was the sign that China’s long awaited “hard landing” had finally arrived, because as China’s paper of record, China Daily, added then: “now, many migrant workers struggle to find their footing in a downshifting economy. As factories run out of money and construction projects turn idle across China, there has been a rise in the last thing Beijing wants to see: unrest.”
“Xinhua reports that as part of China’s proposed excess capacity production curtailments the country’s steel production slash will translate into the loss of jobs for up to 400,000 workers, estimated Li Xinchuang, head of China Metallurgical Industry Planning and Research Institute. Li said more people will be affected in the upstream and downstream industries.
According to some estimates just like every banker job in New York “feeds” up to three downstream jobs, so in China every worker in the steel industry helps support between 2 to 3 additional job.s Which means, 400,000 primary layoffs would mean a total job loss number anywhere between 1.2 and 1.6 million jobs!”
Zerohedge
Direct link…
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-25/china-warns-social-stability-threatened-400000-steel-workers-are-about-lose-their-jo
KY Mom,
Thanks. Wow, over a million jobs. I know they have more people than we do but this is still a big hit. More to come. Self-sufficiency.
Sadly, the complacency our kids will show to these changes and the rights they will forfeit will be because it’s such a slow transition sold as “improvements”. When I was a kid, there was no way I could have forseen what is actually in the works today. Talking in church about a cashless society, one world government and all these things that are ACTUALLY HAPPENING in front of my eyes I though to be off in some distant future, not within my lifetime. I fear for the decisions my children will be forced to make.
Drug shortages in American ERs — mostly of lifesaving medicines to treat infectious diseases or poisonings — have increased more than 400 percent
“Of the nearly 1,800 drug shortages reported between 2001 and 2014, nearly 34 percent were used in emergency rooms. More than half (52.6 percent) of all reported shortages were of lifesaving drugs, and 10 percent of shortages affected drugs with no substitute.
The most common drugs on shortage are used to treat infectious diseases, relieve pain, and treat patients who have been poisoned. Though the number of shortages fell between 2002 and 2007, they’ve risen by 435 percent between 2008 and 2014.”
Washington Post
Direct link…
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/to-your-health/wp/2016/01/22/drug-shortages-in-american-ers-mostly-of-lifesaving-medicines-to-treat-infectious-diseases-or-poisonings-have-increased-more-than-400-percent/
KY, I’ve been saying for many years that a first aid or medical kit without large amounts of different antibiotics is a toy.
Semper Fi, y’all
Good point.
I wish our medical kit had very large amounts of different antibiotics.
I was going to buy 0.67% of the Central Business District in downtown Oslo. Was about to rent a forklift to drive my 39,000 rolls of zinc nickels to their embassy. But now I won’t, since they don’t like cash. I would have been a gentle despot as a landlord, norwegians. It would have been win-win. But then I read this article. My cash and I will go where we are wanted.
Go suck a diseased weasel, norwegian central bankers.
I would get all the bullion and precious gems, food and supplies I could buy as a savings investment so the banks going under won’t take it all. I would keep enough money to pay bills in banks.
If the banks crash and take everyone’s account money to make up for their own losses, the country will go under as well. You would lose some money, but not all. Since gold and silver bullion and precious gems are not “cash”, they can be used as a trade item as it has been used over 4 thousand years and after economies crash, including the fall of the Roman Empire.
If there is no crash of the banks, one could sell off an amount of it to cover digital credit to cover other purchases or make trades without the banks involved.
But if PM’s and precious gems are going to be outlawed, time to leave that country and go to a 3rd world country with your stash where actual gold, silver, diamonds, etc., still means something and is used.
Leave hell, Woogie, it’s time to fight.
I wouldn’t invest in diamonds. The market is currently restricted by the biggest suppliers, even though there is an abundance of diamonds already out of the ground. Also, there has been a huge deposit of diamonds found in Russia. If Russia were to start putting a lot of those on the market, the price would go down to semi-precious prices or even lower. Also, most people would have no idea how to value diamonds after SHTF.
Silver for low value items and gold for high value items seems best for me.
Hi Archivist;
I do invest in gem stones including diamonds and nice colored stones. You’re right in that a bunch of shit is pedaled around but I had technical training many years ago and if you buy right you are fine. The problem is that without the tech background and equipment somebody else will make the money. Don’t rule it out, just know the product.
Cashless society = Bankster’s ultimate erotic fantasy.
It is an orgy of criminality that is guaranteed to happen sooner, not later.
Banksters AND politicians, what better way to eliminate all those stupid people trying to avoid their sticky grubby gov fingers,,,,
100% correct Kulafarmer.
Banksters would be powerless to act without the help of their paid political operatives. Any direction you look, government and the banks are tightening the noose around the necks of honest people; and the predictable bastards will claim it is to make society “safer” from terrorists.
It is becoming progressively more difficult to remain the “Grey Man”.
The sad truth is the majority of Americans will want and even demand eliminating cash after the next bubble pops selling themselves into total slavery…
So what are the plausable escape places yea canada you can drive to and S America or Islands you can get a boat and make it maby but driving down through mexico with supplies and guns would be a no
No. You don’t wanna be on the Pan American Highway with mucho moola, supplies, rifles, woman or ammo (and water and fuel and meds and smokes; ad infinitum).
Montana wyoming utah not rual enough need to be no people for 50 miles
If you didn’t know this was coming, you’re islam (ic). Christians have known, forewarned and maybe have prepared. Mormans prepare for at least a years worth of sustenance, why shouldn’t everyone?! Predicted was the mark of the beast, 666, did you know that bar codes have a preceding 6, middle 6 and ending 6? If you really don’t believe it, find out what the actual barcode for a six looks like (II) try tying that in without any backspaces! So in the beginning, middle and end of almost any barcode is 666.
I live in a place where there are two economies. One price for cards, checks, and credit, Another for cash. Cash won’t disappear.
If on the books, a guy that gets a 1099 loses upwards of 40 cents on the dollar to taxes. Off books they get the whole dollar. What would you do? Especially when you see the government as the biggest threat to your health, safety, welfare, and wealth.
Cash or something like it will stick around. If I was in Norway I’d switch to Swiss Francs or American Dollars wherever possible.
Keep on prepping.
It can and will disappear at the rate we are going. It would be just like when moneys have been devalued and swapped out. You had to go to the bank within a certain length of time and exchange your money for the new currency and if you didn’t, you were stuck holding useless paper. This time, you will have a certain amount of time to either deposit all of your money into your bank account or it will be useless. Currently people will accept cash under the table and give you a better deal, but if they can no longer use that cash they will not accept it.
sooo, if you read the sentence on the right half of every dollar bill, its says “this bill is legal tender for all debts public and private”, does this mean I get to SUE any business which refuses cash hahahaaaaaa or are all the printing plates in the mint going to be altered. On a minor note, if the federal Govt won’t allow banks to accept state legalized marijuana business cash, where does that leave them, I don’t see it happening here in my lifetime.
My grand daughter is currently in college and when she enrolled she was automatically set up with a bank account and debit card. No cash allowed. All grants and student loans are paid directly to the college and what ever is left after tuition and fees goes to her for living expenses. All overages due her from any of the grants and student loans must be electronically deposited into this account. Where she works they only pay electronic to your bank account or to a payday debit card that they will set up for you. She pays for everything electronically, buys her Starbucks with her phone and rarely carries any cash. Pretty soon, we will have an entire generation of people that do not know what cash is and that is exactly what the banks and governments want. At one time there was a proposal that no one got paid by their employer. All pay had to go directly to the government and they would take out taxes and send you the rest. It never went anywhere, but I suspect that it will come around again and be pushed even harder.
Won’t happen. We got guns…
What Churchill said about the misuse of technology. Some of this related to the A-bomb, but what is going on now is arguably even WORSE for the freedom of man as man. Churchill warned of Hitler. Might be good to review these similar warnings, and apply to the techno world
Science burrows its insulted head in the filth of slaughterous inventions.
— Winston Churchill
he Dark Ages may return—the Stone Age may return on the gleaming wings of Science; and what might now shower immeasureable material blessings upon mankind may even bring about its total destruction. Beware! I say. Time may be short.
Referring to the discovery of atomic energy.
This revelation of the secrets of nature, long mercifully withheld from man, should arouse the most solemn reflections in the mind and conscience of every human being capable of comprehension. We must indeed pray that these awful agencies will be made to conduce to peace among the nations, and that instead of wreaking measureless havoc upon the entire globe, may become a perennial fountain of world prosperity.
[Concerning use of the atomic bomb.]
— Winston Churchill
Statement drafted by Churchill following the use of an atomic bomb on Hiroshima. Due to the change in government, the statement was released by Clement Attlee (6 Aug 1945). In Sir Winston Churchill, Victory: War Speeches by the Right Hon. Winston Churchill (1946), 289.
We know enough to be sure that the scientific achievements of the next fifty years will be far greater, more rapid, and more surprising, than those we have already experienced. … Wireless telephones and television, following naturally upon the their present path of development, would enable their owner to connect up to any room similarly equipped and hear and take part in the conversation as well as if he put his head in through the window.
— Winston Churchill
From ‘Fifty Years Hence’, Strand Magazine (Dec 1931). Reprinted in Popular Mechanics (Mar 1932), 57, No. 3, 394-396
[Should Britain fail, then the entire world would] sink into the abyss of a new dark age made more sinister … by the lights of perverted science.
— Winston Churchill
“Finest Hour” speech after Dunkirk during WW II (18 Jun 1940). In Robert Rhodes James, ed. Winston Churchill: His Complete Speeches, 1897-1963
BTW, the solution to destroying this beast is simple: Just get the Bank of Norway to use the garbage Microsoft puts out.
Should destroy the whole gambit in a week.
So how is Richard on “Fast and Loud” gonna buy and sell those classic supercars without cash?
Have you seen him smell a pile of new cash 8 inches think?
$120,000. cash for a Mustang or classic Corvette?
Texas might be the last place to be cashless.
Bring on the EMP.
When tptb feel the time is right, it will be forced on us. The next step in total control.