Gun-hating democrats who demanded a study into the sale of guns online were smacked with a dose of reality. They wasted two years attempting to buy guns illegally on the “dark web,” and the group of Democrats failed every single time.
Senator Elizabeth Warren joined with Senator Brian Schultz, D-Hawaii, and Representative Elijah Cummings, D-Md., to commission the GAO report.
An embarrassing attempt to try to regulate guns further went horribly wrong when Democrats took it upon themselves to try to skirt the law to prove it can be done. Over the course of the two-and-a-half year investigation, agents tried to buy firearms illegally on the “Surface Web” and the “Dark Web,” generally by sharing their status as “prohibited individuals” or trying to buy across state lines.
The NRA described the study as an attempt to replicate the findings of former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s 2015 report, titled “Point, Click, Fire: An investigation of illegal online gun sales,” which found that 62 percent of private sellers were willing to proceed with a sale, even if the prospective purchaser could not pass a background check.
But the GAO revealed that every single one of their 72 attempts outside of the “dark web” were “unsuccessful.” It kind of makes one wonder where Bloomberg got his information and statistics. As if that isn’t bad enough, to humiliate those in power who think of us as less equal than them, the bulk of this rather embarrassing study is being ignored by the mainstream media.
“Private sellers on Surface Web gun forums and in classified ads were unwilling to sell a firearm to our agents that self-identified as being prohibited from possessing a firearm,” the GAO reported, noting that in their “72 attempts … 56 sellers refused to complete a transaction once we revealed that either the shipping address was across state lines or that we were prohibited by law from owning firearms.” In the other cases, the investigators’ website was frozen or they encountered suspected scammers.
On the dark web, GAO agents successfully purchased two guns illegally, as the serial numbers on the weapons were “obliterated” and “shipped across state lines.” But in the attempt to purchase, the GAO agents “did not disclose any information indicating they were prohibited from possessing a firearm.” –Fox News
Based on the findings of this study, the Democrats have no recommendations to report. “GAO’s findings showed nothing so much as that private sellers advertising online are knowledgeable about the law, conscientious, and self-policing,” The National Rifle Association said, adding that online gun sales are “subject to the same federal laws that apply to any other commercial or private gun sales.”
Thank you to the gun sellers on Surface Web gun forums for refuting the inane claims of the gun haters. Those haters are the same people that make many idiotic claims with no proof. Those haters will not destroy our BILL OF RIGHTS.
Cranerigger, I’ve got something for those gun haters.
I took one of the AR’s and blew apart big chunks of ice a little while ago. Very satisfying. I imagined it was certain someone’s heads.
fun yes, NRA = Nazi Republican Agenda
No NRA = No guns
It just so happens that the Democrats have an official agenda against the second Amendment.. There are pro Second Amendment democrats in the rural areas that will never climb the ranks in the “progressive” controlled democrat party.
Your ilk are AGAIN proven to be liars and cheats in the twisted vision they puke out and all you can say is NRA= NAZI.
I love it! You have lost the discussion.
Here’s a research proposal. . .
How many mass shooters in US history have been registered Democrats?
How many mass shooters in US history have been NRA members?
I think you’ll find that the nazis are still on the left.
Menzo, when I was at the BOL during the holidays, I had pictures of certain antigun activists attached to paper targets. I shredded every one of those targets with a Ruger 10/22 with 25-round mags. I shot up a lot of .22LR and it was real cold out but I enjoyed it anyway. One day we may have to do ‘the real deal’.
Nobody caught it : ” As if that isn’t bad enough, to humiliate those in power who think of us as less equal than them, the bulk of this rather embarrassing study is being ignored by the mainstream media “.
It is being ignored because it did not fit there agenda.
There was a conversation going on yesterday, I think, about the war of words vs arms. This is one that should be replayed/passed on/repeated as much as we can. The war of words. The pen is mightier than the sword. I think Rrrr started it.
Fishandmud, agreed on your comments but Rrrr didn’t know what he was talking about.
In other “Blue State News” the Police State has hit a new low at the HOA level. http://www.azfamily.com/story/37221923/hoa-threatens-to-fine-homeowners-200-for-closing-their-garage-doors?autostart=true
You’re welcome. I buy them. Sell them. Trade them. I know the law and I follow it whether buying or selling. Its not just The Law, its actually good, common sense.
Last thing I bought was a Savage 110 in .223. Last think I sold was a Winchester Mod. 70 in .270 (Well, actually, I traded it for a Glock 31).
The Dumbocrats don’t have any idea what can or cannot be done. They’ve been sucking tax money for so long they have no idea how an honest living is made because all their “living” has been made dishonestly by screwing the people.
NetRanger, welcome back and AMEN to your comments. I didn’t know you’re a gun dealer.
You don’t need to be a dealer to buy and sell guns in most states.
If you buy a firearm you don’t like, you have every right to resell it or trade it for another.
I bought a brand new seemingly never fired pistol, the guy who bought it originally just didn’t like it. It’s exactly what I wanted, I got a $200 break for taking it off his hands. Years later with over a thousand rounds through it, I’m still super happy.
no such thing as illegal gun sales
It won’t be easy to find somebody who will ship a gun straight to you, whether or not you “self identify” as a prohibited person. Pretty much everybody knows it will get you a long vacation courtesy of .gov
Only an idiot would meet up and complete a sale in person.
So these libtards admit to attempting to make illegal purchases? Why aren’t they charged with felonies for their criminal attempts?
And if they really are concerned about illegal gun sales, why aren’t they furious about Holder’s illegal gun sales to criminal mexican cartels? Why are they silent on that?
Right in the face!
Liberalism is a disease. It’s a virus that infects the host and causes mental instability. It currently infects half the population. Keep your powder dry fellow patriots, we must be vigilant and pass the baton of freedom to the next generation or all will suffer.
you took the words right out of my mouth. thank you
Leave it to the libturds. They’ll do anything to undermine the 2A. I don’t give up anything to anyone. And that disgusting member of the tribe Bloomberg had nothing but false information for his “study”. Just more antigun propaganda.
looks like the NRA was successful in making it hard to get guns. thanks NRA?
Without the NRA you would have no guns; and thats a fact.
yes i would coward. and that’s a fact.
Use it to defend yourself and you won’t under that environment. You’ll be dead or in prison. Ask the British and Australians.
idiots, dont they know about the NRAs gun control and the 1968 laws the NRA lobbied for? oh well at least dems are too stupid to go to home depot and make their own shotguns.
The words “liberal” and “progressive” are merely cover for those “Marxist”, “Bolshevik”, “Communist”.
Communism has murdered tens of millions of people in the last century. Yet, people continue to embrace communistic platforms.
Disarming citizens makes it easier to kill them. When will common people wake up and realize that private gun ownership protects them from violence without firing a shot.
B from Ca, well said. They are not liberals. They are genocidal communists trying to get our rights so that they can proceed with this century’s genocide.
The words “Marxist”, “Bolshevik”, “Communist”. are merely cover for those Chews and K*kes.
“. . .Communism has murdered tens of millions of people in the last century. Yet, people continue to embrace communistic platforms. . .”
Isms don’t kill- God’s “chosen” did the killing.
Yep, the left are a bunch of friggin dumb-asses. It has been proven many times before.
Last thing on earth we need is Faux-caw-haunt-us Warren with a gun. Thank God the system worked and prohibited an insane woman from becoming armed. Now, if only we could have legislated that ALL Democrats are sick, twisted, perverted individuals……
The self title of “Progressive” assumes progress. The focal point of their movement is that the rich and powerful control and abuse the poor and powerless. Their solution is to disarm the poor and powerless. For the sake of effort I’m not going to type that again. Please just reread it because its absolutely senseless the first time around and I assume also thereafter. One would think that the peasants storming the Bastille would desire to retain weaponry to save them the future effort. Because historically the powerful have often abused the powerless the latter need weapons. The “Progressive” logic on this matter is devoid of logic.
Kevin2, truer words were never spoken. The left has always suffered from a lack of intelligence.
The Deplorable Braveheart
“The left has always suffered from a lack of intelligence.”
I agree with their cannon fodder who I believe are blinded by ideology that focuses upon taking what someone else has with equality being the foremost goal of society. How this is accomplished, if it can be accomplished are just unimportant details like having oars in the boat and figuring out who rows. Their leadership on the other hand is very intelligent. They don’t believe the crap they sell but they sell it very effectively. Its easy to sell a good product, they sell shit to quasi educated masses. As I said, “They’re very very good at being very very bad”.
Kevin2, once again you got me on something. I just can’t stop taking my hat off to you, sir.
The assassination of nearly all the Branch Dividians shows what the left is made of.
They may not be able to do it with their own liberal hands, but the left had no qualms about illegally ordering Delta Force soldiers, in direct action, to assassinate American citizens including woman and children.
Interesting side note on Wako, the FBI had an active sniper nest that contrary to testimony during congressional investigations, was actively firing on the Branch Dividians during the final siege. Spent shell casings photographed in the snipers nest couldn’t be explained. There were Banch Dividian survivors, not one was armed there is no plausible claim of self defense by government forces. Turns out FBI Lon Horiuchi, agent in charge of that sniper nest was one and the same FBI agent that assassinated Randy Weavers unarmed wife Vicki, wile she carried not a big gun but just an infant child, in her own home at Ruby Ridge.
Unfortunately small potatoes. The Neo-con right are economically closest to the financial power who prosecutes wars for the power elite who at one time operated as out of sight as possible for both expediency and necessity.
Using a 10x scope at ~200 meters, our man Lon couldn’t tell she was a woman? OOOOK
This was nothing short of a murder.
Thanks, its just an opinion. I don’t discount the progressive left. They’re wrong but they are not dumb.
The Hawaii democrat is Brian SCHATZ not Shultz…btw “Schatz” in this case is both a proper noun and a verb!
I often wonder if anyone who advocates any infringement on the right to keep and bear arms, is a traitor and the domestic enemy?
and if they were people just like you and me that tried this ,
I’m sure we would have been cuffed and stuffed
And now that they have been proven wrong
Are they going to anounce in public that they were wrong?
Nahhhh you know they are going to keep pushing the false narrative
Flat out lies and every other underhanded scheme to continue telling lies and making up more to feed the simpletons of this country
They need to be publicly shamed for this
Maybe even outright shunned
But too many weak and ass kissing types will continue to let it slide
Or not call these people out when they continue to spew their hate and jealousy of my right
Holy shit, that Warren mutt is damn near uglier than the Hildabeast.
PO’d Patriot, I wouldn’t have her either. I’d end up catching something.
And it would be a terrible something for sure. Its something we call the “VYDOKIE”. It a terrible something that you can’t really name so that’s what we call it.
OT but important. At SGT Report, Peter Sutherland, the ‘father of globalisation’ and advocate for mass migration and multiculturalism has died at age 71. Another NWO flunkie burning in hell with his ‘comrades’.
This report doesn’t fit the narrative so it will be quickly and quietly swept under the rug. Move along, please.
This article has a great headline. Democrats humiliate themselves with…. Now you can fill in the blank:
1) Their own study on illegal gun sales online
2). A corrupt criminal candidate for president who:
A) Led a corrupt charity fraud called the Clinton Foundation
B) Cheated Bernie Sanders out of the nomination
C) Colluded with the Russians to sell Uranium One
D) Cheered on voter fraud and denied voter fraud
3) The exposure by Donna Brazile that she feared for her life after Seth Rich was killed
4). Actively worked to discredit the women who accused her husband of being a philanderer.
5) An Insane position on abortion – denying the obvious that they’re killing a small human
6). Telling us with a straight face that the identification of your biological sex is really a social construct so a guy can say he’s a girl and we have to go along with it.
7) Creating the great society programs that DESTROYED the black family and then the black community.
8). Telling us that we shouldn’t profile people from other nations who are entering our country even though terrorists fit a profile
9). Claiming that illegal immigrants have a RIGHT to be/stay here
10) Gloating over their coup that the individual mandate of Obamacare wasn’t the first time in history that the Federal government ORDERED us to buy a product from a private company but was rather a tax.
I’m going to stop my list because dinner is ready not because I ran out of examples. Stuffed peppers this evening. Best Wishes to everyone on SHTFPlan.com
Monday is MILF Day, again.
Does that mean if they got four more of them we would get a week of?
I wonder if Oprah owns a gun ?
Gabby Giffords (the professional politician shot in the head), and her stupid a** astro-nut husband Mark Kelly (it’s positively amazing how NASA will just let anybody into space), tried pulling the same kind of crap.
The Giffords, like most Dumbo-crats are convinced there is no gun control already. So convinced are they that you can just walk into any old gun store and buy just any old gun right off the shelf that they showed themselves for mal-informed fool idiots that they are — on their own video.
Boy, were they surprised when the gun store owner handed astro-boy the “usual forms” for a background check.
These libtards will stop at nothing.
I remember that. Mark Kelly should have been prosecuted for his repeated attempts to illegally buy firearms, a felony.
In one case where he was actually legal, the dealer refused the sale because he acted so weird.
Didn’t Kelly order an AR 15, and then back out when it came to light? Sounds like the purchase would have never been completed anyway.
Gabby Giffords is proof-positive that you can shoot a Democrat in the head and not hit anything vital. I recall pictures of her holding an AR in front of her target at a range before her being shot:
http://i.imgur.com/FtMc6Fe.jpg ;and again, practicing with a handgun coached by her husband after she was shot: http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1387732.1372737267!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/gabby2n-4-web.jpg proof of hypocrisy as well.
“it’s positively amazing how NASA will just let anybody into space”
They don’t. He graduated with honors from Kings Point and has a masters degree in aeronautical engineering. That ain’t “anybody”.
Kelly’s brother also an astronaut is a twin. Science loves twins when studying human physiology. NASA has already used the brothers in new tests where the brother on earth operated in a simulator while the twin in space operated in the space station, the could run comparative analysis to better understand how space affects people.
So yes the Kelly’s aren’t just qualified, they bring a unique scientific tool to the table.
None of which changes the fact that Mark Kelly is still an a$$ hole, who has used his position to war against the US Constitution.
I listen to NPR to stay informed on what the enemy is doing from time to time. Sometimes they will talk about guns. The woman hosting the show claimed that in some park in Boston where the druggies hang out there is this thing called community guns. She said that they are stashed around the park and if someone need a gun they can just get from behind a bush or something. What a crock of shit. Drug addicts don’t care about guns they want another dose. If there is any guns in the park the antigunners planted them there. Remember fast and furious. There is no limit to how far the demons will go to get gun control. Creating a problem and pushing for the solution. Think about how easy the demons could go get some guns file off the numbers then stash them around the park in hopes some kid finds one and uses it so they can say see we told you. Fucking pure evil demons. They can do this because they have no conscience who gets killed as long as it can’t be traced back to them and they get gun control. lies.
Plan twice,I remember that interview with the dealer who refused Kelly. He was/is the laughingstock of Tucson!
While it is true that it would be very hard to buy a working gun without going through a dealer and background check, it is a not true to say it isn’t easy to get a working gun of any kind, without any checks of any kind, anonymously online!
80% lowers is how. Any felon, gangster, cartel member, and any terrorist from any terrorist country can land in the U.S. and by the parts along with an 80% lower, and have a complete working semi-auto pistol or rifle in a matter of an hour or two in any configuration! AR15, AR10, 9mm, 45 cal., etc.
This is what got ares armor in trouble with the ATF, as they saw gang bangers and cartel members from mexico going into the store (in san diego) and walking out with hundreds of these lowers
The 80% lower is the loop hole. They can buy them in the dozens! All they need is money, and an address, or walk in. And a drill.
And it doesn’t matter if your name starts or ends with MohamMad, and you got off the plane an hour ago.
All that work to make some stupid anti-gun hating thesis work? You must be a libtard troll.
“This is what got ares armor in trouble with the ATF, as they saw gang bangers and cartel members from mexico going into the store (in san diego) and walking out with hundreds of these lowers”
Gangbangers / cartel members are not machinists. Your story is bullshit.
Dave said, “Any felon, gangster, cartel member, and any terrorist from any terrorist country…And it doesn’t matter if your name starts or ends with MohamMad, and you got off the plane an hour ago.”
Do you have any solution for that, whatsoever, which does not involve hassling a normal person.
Would you rather be disarmed or armed against the naughty people.
So will we see a false flag event this year with an alleged shooter comitting a staged shooting with a firearm made using an 80% lower?
I don’t agree with you. Building an AR from an 80% lower is not a trivial project. The Internet has lots of videos on how not to build an AR, i.e. mistakes people make that result in firearm failure or dangerous to downright deadly results.
Yes, they can be slapped together, but I wouldn’t bet my life on a such a home made weapon. And the idea of mass production using a cheap drill press is laughable.
If I’m going to use a firearm to save the lives of my family, I’m thinking that firearm must go bang with 100% reliability when it’s loaded and the trigger is pulled. Additionally it must never go off if dropped or even abused, it must only fire when the trigger is intentionally pulled.
I have no experience with 80% AR receiver kits, but what I do know about AR’s tells me there are dozens of fatal flaw errors that could be made in selecting, fitting and assembling parts while building an AR that could be made even by experienced people who purchase factory complete lowers. Now your going to toss in a precision part, the receiver built with hand tools?
Have you ever built one? If so does it work with 100% reliability like a commercial made firearm?
Dave, and of course I already missed the obvious.
It’s already illegal to make guns to sell or distribute to others. You can make one or two for yourself. To manufacture firearms without the proper federal and state licenses is a “see you in another lifetime” kind of crime.
Buying 80% receivers by the dozen will certainly get you a dozen consecutive prison sentences.
You seem excessively worried about home made AR’s. Long guns are the least likely to be used in a crime, they just can’t be tucked into your belt and concealed. The concept that big bad AR’s are public enemy number one, is a long held liberal fantasy.
By the way, home made guns can’t be transferred, or inherited. If you want to leave one for a son or daughter, instruct them to take it apart and destroy the receiver. They can have all other parts to sell or make their own if they like, and have the ability.
Sprayed my steel cased ammo with Remington dry lube.
If someone scalped Pocahontas would it be a hate crime? I’m so confused
I heard Elizabeth Warren referred to as “Little Running Mouth”. Cracked me up.
I am not restricted. Lower lifeforms, plants, and germs are even afforded this right, as well as it being a human right.
These are infringements, on the natural right to self defense.
Did they not break the law by attempting to purchase firearms in an illegal manner? I think somebody needs to go to prison for this. Boxer and Feinstein come to mind….
Two,three years ago I got a case of ammo sealed by the manufacturer. Does anyone have any idea how I can open it?. Maybe this time Mac will let my post go through
I have two questions number one is how many of these demooooo-rats have a security person or persons guarding them and if so why. Second is who paid for this study and who authorized it. Oh. Ya has anyone sent all the fake media a copy of this article so we know they got it.