At The Threshold Of War: “The Choice Is Not Up To Us Anymore… It Is Being Decided Upon At This Very Moment”

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    As reported Monday, April 25 on almost all mainstream and alternate news sites, Britain’s Defense Minister Michael Fallon has openly declared that his country will carry out a preemptive nuclear strike even if not attacked, as such:

    “In the most extreme circumstances we have made it very clear that you can’t rule out the use of nuclear weapons as a first strike.”

    Michael Fallon, BBC Today, 4-25-17

    This is very serious and no longer simply rhetorical, as the Russians responded to the effect that the UK could be wiped off the face of the globe if they were to provoke the wrong party.  The U.S. now has a submarine in position in South Korea that is carrying Tomahawks armed with nuclear warheads and the American Naval armada continues to sail toward the region.  The North Koreans have been conducting artillery drills, as South Korea and Japan are preparing their citizens for war to break out.  The United States just test-launched an ICBM from California that splashed into the South Pacific.

    In the U.S., President Trump has convened a meeting in the White House for all 100 U.S. senators as reported yesterday throughout the alternative media.  The mainstream media (MSM) is being notoriously silent about the whole matter, although it is plain to see the focal point of the meeting is North Korea, as announced by the White House.

    Deflection has been rendered partially by the MSM by the endless barrage regarding the 9th Circuit Court trying to sabotage the Executive Order signed by the President to withhold federal funding from “sanctuary” cities trying to circumvent federal law and procedure with the illegal aliens.  The “First 100 Days” of the Trump Administration is the new catch-phrase the MSM is focusing upon, much as they did with the “47 million on food stamps” phrase that virtually stayed the same for more than 3 years.  Underreporting and obfuscation (if not outright lies) are the MSM’s way of keeping the public in the dark nationally and globally.

    In the meantime, the Russians are beginning to redeploy ground troops to Syria.  It appears that the U.S. is going to be pushed into a war in one theater or another by the progressives masquerading as conservatives.  This brings to mind the ratiocination for the initiation of hostilities in either theater.  For North Korea, it is simple: The North Koreans are one of the three nations not involved in the global banking cartel.  In addition, a war will increase U.S. hegemony in the area regardless of what happens to South Korea or Japan in the aftermath.

    Regarding Syria, the Obama administration started a proxy/indirect war with Russia over Syria, with Russia backing Bashar al-Assad and the United States its own “created boogeyman” of ISIS/ISIL.  Obama did not take Russia on directly, and Russia out-maneuvered him by suggesting he fight against his own creation…which he did…and then the Russians bombed the daylights out of them.  Russia then declared the bombing campaign to be over and did a “drawdown,” while still leaving enough of a force to deter Obama, who fizzled out in pusillanimous splendor.

    Syria is still on the table, though, because we don’t have that pipeline running out of Qatar through Northwestern Syria to cut off Gazprom and the Russians from supplying Europe with natural gas.  In addition, the House of Saud wants Assad out of Syria, and in addition to this, the U.S. needs to take Syria if it wants (and it does want) to invade Iran.  The Russians bombing ISIS/ISIL prevented any more oil from being stolen from Northwest Syria and trucked across the border, where it was sold to Erdogan and his brother.

    The Military Industrial Complex (MIC) and their paid-for congressmen and senators (such as McCain, Graham, Ryan, ad infinitum) are the ones who stand to benefit, either in stocks held or in kickbacks to either advance or snafu legislation or policy (depending on which benefits the firms).  They did it with Ukraine, as well, but the threat of directly confronting Russia was as good as an orchiotomy for Obama, and we have a stalemate between the U.S.-created Kiev government of Poroshenko and the separatists of the Eastern Ukrainian provinces.

    The powers that be are intent on having a war, regardless of the consequences and effects on noncombatants.  A war would also be a way to prop up the administration’s flagging ratings.  Domestically we have not emerged from the “soft” police state and liberal “legislative” powers of the Courts to remake Constitutional law and circumvent Congress and the President through selective interpretation of anything and everything: These things are the true “legacy” of Obama.

    Now, where from there?  We are at the threshold of another major war that could erupt in any of these areas.  The choice is not up to us anymore, and it is surely being decided upon at this very moment.


    Jeremiah Johnson is the Nom de plume of a retired Green Beret of the United States Army Special Forces (Airborne).  Mr. Johnson is also a Gunsmith, a Certified Master Herbalist, a Montana Master Food Preserver, and a graduate of the U.S. Army’s SERE school (Survival Evasion Resistance Escape).  He lives in a cabin in the mountains of Western Montana with his wife and three cats. You can follow Jeremiah’s regular writings at SHTFplan.com or contact him here.

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      1. At this point, you either have what you need to survive with the best odds possible, or you’re just gunna be a piece of driftwood bouncing around in the current with the masses.

        • we’re still safe in the usa despite what they may say as north korea still can’t get a reliable missile; but it will be a depression 6 months after that first missile is fired.

          • Who is to say it wouldn’t be China, Russia, or rouge elements in our government that fires on the U. S.?

          • Are you forgetting that N. Korea has 70 submarines that could lay just outside our USA territorial waters and launch a few dirty missiles at our major Ports of entry, etc, ??

            • That’s what has me on edge because there has been a sub and a couple of ships spotted in international waters right off the coast of the USA. We don’t own the water but so far out and then it’s international waters. The thing that bothers me the most is we are basically in two wars now , one with Syria and Russia by proxy and also Afghanistan, can we really fight another war against North Korea without it destroying us financially. Obama down graded our military so much that we are spread a little thin as it is. Russia is already buzzing Alaska and China has made threats to our ships in the north China sea if I’m not mistaken so what is to stop them from turning on us once this whole mess with North Korea gets kicked off , i don’t like the way this is headed already.

        • “The Choice Is Not Up To Us Anymore… It Is Being Decided Upon At This Very Moment”

          It was NEVER up to US with respect to N Korea. Kim refuses to abide by international Agreements he made with US. His destruction will be HIS CHOICE, because we have no choice.

          In Syria there will be no conflict between the USA and Russia. After discussions with Secretary Tillerson, where promises were likely made not to attack ASSAD or introduce large numbers of ground troops against ASSAD forces, and allow Russia to keep its PORT, Russia withdrew 35 combat jets from Syria, or half of its deployed contingent.

          Ukraine will not confront Russia with the EU or the USA backing it for war: not gonna happen. Expect the status quo to remain there for awhile.

          All of that didn’t happen in a vacuum. Peace is breaking out with a resurgent USA and Patriot in the Oval Office. 🙂

          • DK, I would LOVE to believe that peace is breaking out, but I’m not holding my breath on it. We still have the threat of libturds starting up their BS again this summer.

            • Peace will break out because the USA is too strong at this time compared to our adversaries; combined, our leadership too capable, and TRUMP has no desire to expand the Empire, treading on the spheres of influence of our competitors.

              This will not always be the case as TRUMP will only be in power for so long. Enjoy the pause that refreshes, and keep Prepping. 🙂

              • too strong? ffs that is delusional

                America couldn’t beat Korea before, their chinese help was in what state in the 50s?

                we can beat them now? can i smoke some of that?

                what condition, tech, weapons, etc did Korea have compared to the mighty USA then?

                • The USA IS the most powerful global military without nuclear weapons. Without nuclear weapons both China and Russia are limited to their specific spheres of influence.

                  “what condition, tech, weapons, etc did Korea have compared to the mighty USA then?”

                  Russian Migs were superior to American jets during the Korean war and they were flown by very capable Russian and Chinese pilots.

                  The Chinese introduced a million fresh troops into Korea after MacArthur pushed the commies back to the Yalu River. MacArthur wanted to use nukes to win and end the war that now included Red China.

                  Truman said “No” and settled for an armistice at the DMZ. 🙂

                  • You leave out the Soviets in the Korean War? they were ALSO about to attack the US in Korea, a war in which the USA committed war crimes. the USA turned NK into what it is today thru its killing of 1/3 of the population. only cowards kill women and children on purpose and indiscriminately.

              • I disagree DK, Trump has fallen to puppet status, the unfounded strike on Syria shows it as will our upcoming strike on NK. There is just too much profit to be made with war, not with peace. That’s why we’ve been in constant conflicts and will continue for decades to come.

                • ” I disagree DK, Trump has fallen to puppet status, the unfounded strike on Syria shows it as will our upcoming strike on NK. ”

                  TRUMP is not a puppet and is still calling the shots. The strike in Syria was a BRILLIANT move, putting ASSAD on notice and a short leash.

                  The debate as to whether there was a false flag gas attack or not is debateable; but the attack by ASSAD’s air force on the HOSPITAL where victims were being treated is FACT, and justifies TRUMP’S attack. 🙂

            • I guess you have short term memory problems ….in case you forgot , they have Been trying to get a war going in Syria for YEARS so you assessment is ludicrous

              • Yes Rich, “THEY” have been trying to start a war in Syria for YEARS. They being the NWO.

                TRUMP is not part of that crowd, which is why the PTB, Status Quo, Liberals, Neocons, and the Media were ALL opposed to his presidency. THEY all wanted war in Syria.

                TRUMP even said during the campaign that he was opposed to a war in Syria, even against replacing ASSAD, so, uhh, WHO is having “memory problems” ???

                Russia just sent 35 combat jets home. Putin wouldn’t do that if there was any question that the Russian PORT was in jeopardy. The war in Syria will be limited going forward, without a clash between the USA and Russia.

                You heard it hear first. 🙂

                • Trump has a lot of NWO people around him, pulling the strings.

                  • Yes, especially from the “Vampire Squid”. You can’t run the government, marshal the military, or manage the economy without them. They will have influence. And those in Congress will hamper his efforts.

                    But when push comes to shove, TRUMP makes the decision. That’s the bottom line. 🙂

          • …you are an uninformed, brainwashed idiot. Read up on what The US did to North Korea during The Korean War, and you will see why NK want their nukes and other weaponry. The US fire-bombed and napalmed the north so badly, they ended up killing off almost 30 % of the innocent, civilian population…and destroyed every city in The North. The atrocities and war crimes The US committed are documented facts. The only thing that stopped The Empire-Building US was the Chinese troops pouring over the Yalu River. I don’t like Mr. Kim and I would hope that the country can be brought together peacefully…but NK has a right to defend itself.
            RJ O’Guillory

            • RJO’Guillory, uh, are you NOT aware that North Korea INVADED South Korea on June 25, 1950? THAT’S the reason NK suffered as much as they did. The crimes the North Koreans AND Chinese committed against civilians are also documented and well-known. I had 3 uncles who served in Korea, 2 of them wounded. Plus, NOBODY has been threatening North Korea; it’s the other way around. The fat dildo who runs that country needs to get off his high horse before he gets knocked off.

            • RJO: Yes, N Korea (and Iran) have a right to defend themselves by developing nuclear weapons. I agree.

              But, under the RULES of the Great Game, the USA has a right to contest their possession of nuclear weapons and prevent that development by “pulling the ladder up” while they are still limited powers.

              All is fair in love and war (except as prescribed by the Geneva Convention). This is war. If you are going get up every morning and threaten to jump the shark, or ride the tiger, don’t slide off. 🙂

        • I keep remembering what you wrote awhile back about how war on the US would begin– with North Korea bombing us. Well, considering how we are provoking the daylights out of the poor fellow, it seems it won’t be long before Kim Jong Un loses his cool (not that he ever had “cool” in the first place!) and sends an EMP over the US… I’m just waiting nervously. Death and destruction. (Hoping to get my sh– together beforehand!!~) 🙁

        • Death destruction is coming… Star wars– world war with ET’S involved… or so the US will claim.

        • Did I hear someone mention Small Pox,

      2. “Who controls the issuance of money controls the government!” Nathan Meyer Rothschild

        June 13, 2016 Which Corporations Control The World?

        A surprisingly small number of corporations control massive global market shares. How many of the brands below do you use?

        http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article44864.htm

        *ALL WARS ARE BANKERS’ WARS*

        I know many people have a great deal of difficulty comprehending just how many wars are started for no other purpose than to force private central banks onto nations, so let me share a few examples, so that you understand why the US Government is mired in so many wars against so many foreign nations. There is ample precedent for this.

        http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/allwarsarebankerwars.php#ixzz3geZmTUcx

        • There would not be as many wars if bankers had to lead the charge.

      3. Yes I agree that we have no say so in what this corrupt false government in D.C. does including starting a terrible war. What can we do about it? I believe that there is an answer. It would take millions of Americans to force their hand. Take back the government and make it responsible to the people of America. This government is not the lawful government of the land jurisdiction and has not been since 1868. The Republic still exists but is currently dormant. Each individual American can take back the land of America and put it back under the Republic and the law of the land, The Constitution for the United States of America. We as a people can put the corporate entity, UNITED STATES, in it’s place and take back control and thus prevent damage and pain to our people through these wars that we do not want.

        • Two thumbs up !!! 🙂

          • That was intended for Sam.

        • the avg IQ of us enlisted and officers has plummeted in last 20 years. Drug use has exploded, troops can be on SSRIs ans serve their mission?, Generals with child porn, navy seals with child porn and raping women.

          served twice, 2 branches. I saw it.

          The avg IQ of the leaders in barely above moron.

          • Ha ! Bro., We ought to compare notes on the I.Q. of officers in combat….LOL. I did 2– tours of duty in Vietnam: 68-70, Army, Helicopter, “Door gunner.” My email: [email protected] —My Blog: TOM’S JOURNAL. My humble Blog is geared to try and help other combat Vet’s deal with the corrupt VA system,[and I hope that Pres. Trump really cleans up the nasty, VA hospital system, etc.] — also to help them find Jesus Christ, thru the KJV Bible, etc.
            Welcome Home, Bro !! —Tommy Schuckman

      4. ” For it’s one-two-three, what are we fighting for?
        Don’t ask me I don’t give a dam, next stop is Vietnam.

        Because it’s five six seven open up those pearly gates,

        ain’t no time to wonder why, whoopee we’re all going to die! ”

        Words from: Feel like I’m fixing to die rag, 1968

        • what’s that spell ? lol

      5. It’s all fake. China will get a more favorable trade agreement from us for pretending to stop the fake NoKo threat. They stick it to us every chance they get, because they can.

      6. The only real threat we face is from the government in D.C. Who’s always trying to end the Bill of Rights? Who’s flooding the country with cheap labor so they can displace you? Who’s encouraging the Antifa mobs to attack Americans? Who allows Universities to prevent conservative speakers from speaking? Who made it legal to discriminate against White males? The answer is your real enemy in D.C.

        • second.

          north korea made no advancements in technology or positions of its military to make what is happening now necessary.

          trump had all of 2017 to build alliances in the far and middle east to sanction the hell out of the bad guys with cooperation for allies. china would easily drop kick its support to north korea if it was in threat of losing the easy access it has to the usa consumer.

        • I am white and damn proud and happy to be a white man but we need to stop sitting around and allowing the clown Gov’t and all of the muslims, the coons, the damn Lettuce pickers and all of the rest of the shit-birds to piss on us, take our jobs, etc, etc. Enough is enough and I am God damned sick and tired of it all.

          • well, bigoted comment not withstanding; the only way to turn the usa back to where the actual majority white citizens that go out and work is en mass voting in the 2018 primaries for every trump candidate.

            having tried to turn out the vote thru the Obama years with almost no success, I’m not optimistic.

            my advice, stay out of debt, live on only what you need and move to a deep red state like Idaho.

            • I’m thinking of moving out of Cali to possibly Idaho. But heck I’m of Mexican descent, maybe they wont want me there!

      7. ht tp://asheepnomore.net/2017/04/25/breaking-trey-gowdys-two-investigators-who-vanished-amid-clinton-related-pedophilia-investigation-have-been-found/

      8. ht tp://thelastlineofdefense.org/breaking-trey-gowdy-and-family-forced-into-protective-custody/

        MAC , story?

        • sorry all, did some digging, and another source also showed me that these both were “determined” to be false or fake news

          back to your regularly scheduled take over of your government

      9. ““The Choice Is Not Up To Us Anymore… It Is Being Decided Upon At This Very Moment””

        You’re incorrect, well mostly.

        EVERY person who serves within the US military is constitutionally required to take and KEEP an Oath to “SUPPORT AND DEFEND” the US Constitution, and that is BEFORE orders of superiors (if any), and before the duties of the position that they occupy. When that Oath is taken, it makes them PERSONALLY responsible for every order they follow, for every action they take.

        Oath of Enlistment: “I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.”

        Officers Oath: “I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.”

        The most part of the Oath concerning the US Constitution is placed first; and it also contains the most words regarding what is supposed to be done.

        So when a US President, a general, etc sends out Americans to fight on foreign shores, or even here, they that are sent out are REQUIRED in writing within the supreme CONTRACT that they agree to and take an Oath to, to ONLY FOLLOW LAWFUL orders. If the Congress has not declared war, then they must refuse to go.

        Since it is ONLY the Congress that can declare war, call out our military; anytime that they have been sent over the last 5 or more decades it has been *terrorism and treason on the part of the person sending them; and ignorance, *terrorism, and treason on the part of those following theose orders.

        In our country, under our legitimate government – and without there is NO ONE who “is in government” that has any authority at all – each individual is responsible for what they do and what orders they follow. When given an UNLAWFUL order they are REQUIRED to refuse it. Then they are to remind the person giving that order that it is unLawful, and why it is unLawful. Then if the person insists, that person is to be charged, arrested, prosecuted for all the crimes committed.

        The Nuremberg Trial backs this up with the arrests, prosecution and deaths of those found guilty, and they did NOT have our Oath. They were still personally responsible because those terrible actions could not have happened it they had not been willing to carryout those orders.

        Treason – Article III, Section 3 of the Constitution of the United States provides: “Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.”

        There are three key elements are necessary for an offense to constitute treason: an obligation of allegiance to the legal order, they intent to go against that legal order, and action to violate that obligation.

        *28 C.F.R. Section 0.85 Terrorism is defined as “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives”.

        James Madison: “The power to declare war, including the power of judging the causes of war, is fully and exclusively vested in the legislature … the executive has no right, in any case, to decide the question, whether there is or is not cause for declaring war.”

        George Washington: “The constitution vests the power of declaring war in Congress; therefore no offensive expedition of importance can be undertaken until after they shall have deliberated upon the subject and authorized such a measure.”

        James Madison: “In time of actual war, great discretionary powers are constantly given to the Executive Magistrate. Constant apprehension of War, has the same tendency to render the head too large for the body. A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defence against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people.”

        James Madison: “Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied: and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force, of the people… No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.”

        George Washington: “It is our true policy to steer clear of entangling alliances with any portion of the foreign world. The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is, in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible.”

        Thomas Jefferson: “I have ever deemed it fundamental for the United States never to take active part in the quarrels of Europe. Their political interests are entirely distinct from ours. Their mutual jealousies, their balance of power, their complicated alliances, their forms and principles of government, are all foreign to us. They are nations of eternal war.“

        John Quincy Adams: “America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She well knows that by enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standards of freedom.”

        We will not have war if those who must fight it say “no”, until we get those DOMESTIC ENEMIES of the USA, and those traitors out of our government, and replaced with those willing to keep the contract and Oath.

        Knowing what is our is not Lawful is all found within that VERY short document, the Constitution of the United States of America.

        There will only be war if those willing to follow orders and work to destroy our nation from within do just that, follow orders instead of saying “NO” to unLawful orders. All they have to do is read a short bit and know what those who SERVE WITHIN our government are allowed to do.

        Daniel Webster: “We may be tossed upon an ocean where we can see no land – nor, perhaps, the sun or stars. But there is a chart and a compass for us to study, to consult, and to obey. That chart is the Constitution.”

        • CAL:

          The Nuremburg trials were a sham. Confessions came about only as a result of torture and threats of harm to Family. This kangaroo court has been exposed in books written by those who carried out the torture. Therefore there is no doubt about the facts. So many people still believe the Holywood version. Ignorance is bliss.

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          • Just followink ooodas

        • I understand all that you say but there is a misunderstanding that you may not be aware of.
          The law of the land for the Republic of the States united is not the Constitution “of” the United States of America. It is the Constitution for the United States of America. What we who have taken an oath to defend, and I am one who was an enlisted man and an officer serving in the U.S. Navy, was the Constitution that looks like but is not the same as what it was before the War between the states in the 1860s.. This Constitution “of” is that of the corporation in D.C
          The President is not the president of our Republic but that of the UNITED STATES, INC. The offices of the Republic are not filled. All of those so called senators that met with Mr. Trump are not our senators either.
          We as a people must take back our country and evict all that are part of this corporate entity. And I believe that with this knowledge given to all the enlisted men and officers we could do just that.

      10. War and rumors of war!!!

        The powers that be will get what they want. As the lowly little person I am there is nothing I can do about it. The only thing I can do is prepare for it, and PRAY!

        We can keep our EYES open and watch what is going on to be ready.

        Sgt.

      11. Perilous times. Keep prepping and stacking.

      12. I suspect a draft is coming. All the legislation is in place to do it. They have changed the rules so that they can get as many people as possible, male/female, gay/straight/trans etc.

        The plan has always been as follows:

        1) Take down all of Russia’s regional allies. This meant Iran but that couldn’t happen without taking out Syria. So, the proxy war will be nuts in Syria until it is done. Also in Africa where China is close to dominating the whole place.

        2) Box in China. This is what North Korea is about. They need to walk those THAADS and the bases right up to China’s border.

        3) Take down Putin and regime change Russia. This can only happen once they have the regional allies out of the way. So expect things to really heat up on that.

        4) Take down China and regime change it. China is too economically powerful and its population too huge to do this without the right resources in place. So, it is Russia first then China.

        5) Screw with Europe to show them who is still boss.

        • FT, that’s a pipe dream for someone. Nothing short of the wrath of GOD can take out China and Russia. On the draft, hell, everyone will be dead from radiation before congress could even have a debate about it. Once the missiles fly, it’s all over.

      13. These wars are just another attempt to take the USA down to third world country status. Once they, TPTB, have killed off a bunch of our young warriors and depleted our countries assets even more, then TPTB will turn on its own in its weakened state. These wars happening now are for oil and gas and precious metals; but also to bring the American people to their knees. These wars are distractions in order to stop a real revolution in this the USA. TPTB are smart enough to realize there is a real and present danger of an American Revolution happening at any time given the right provoking action. TPTB really do not want a revolution because they know they would be the hunted, and also know they would be defeated. They have a better chance with a world war than a revolution, and they know it!

      14. Joel Skousen said the White House meeting was about more sanctions, not war. The prepper websites are beating the loudest drums for conflict to get their advertisers more sales.
        It’s all amusing.

      15. Top Secret:

        Korean President Kim Jung UN is planning an attack on America that is a for sure win for North Korea and the End of the Road for the USA. Starting tomorrow hundreds of thousands of so called Korean refugees will be coming through our open border every day. They are demanding all the benefits afforded Middle Eastern refugees. Kim says he will shoot any refugee attempting to return to North Korea. So, we have no other choice. We must take in all the people of North Korea. President Trump has kicked out all his celebrity paying customers out of Maralago and his other hotels and replaced paying customers with Koreans on Section 8. The riots in LA are starting to look like the good old days.

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        • Yes we do have a choice. There is no law that says we have to take in any refugees. Send them on their way to Canada, Mexico, S. America, where ever, not here. If this happens, then the revolution begins as far as I’m concerned. Like I said these wars are just to bring America to its knees, bring in all these refugees just to break us from the inside. Don’t be stupid people, take a stand.

          • Waiting:

            You are right to take a stand, but I was just kidding. As far as I know, there is no refugee exodus out of North Korea at this time. But where ever we have waged war in the last thirty years, we get refugees, in greater or lesser number. I just wanted to point out both that possibility and that of our real Achilles heel, our insane policy of open borders. Btw (not kidding) Mexico is going forward with plans for a wall on their Southern border with Guatemala. At least that is something I just read. I think I’ll google it to get corroboration. Sorry, if I caused unnecessary stress. I thought it was obvious sarcasm. But without voice or body language cues, I guess it is hard to tell when someone is serious. I’ld take most of what is written in respectable journals as mostly lies and distortions. Then it just gets worse from there. Take care.

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      16. FYI Folk’s- September 18, 2001 Wartime presidential powers supersede liberties

        In “cases of rebellion or invasion [when] the public safety may require it,” the Constitution permits a president to suspend the right to be freed from arrest by a writ of habeas corpus — as Lincoln did during the Civil War. That denies a person jailed even by illegal means recourse in the courts.

        http://web.archive.org/web/20010918184425/www.washtimes.com/national/20010918-1136.htm

      17. Wow!

        Except for Cal’s comments – the rest look like wack birds!

        Just tossed the hand grenade!

        Your turn.

      18. Heard the fishin is good in Canada this year.!!!!!

      19. “the U.S. is going to be pushed into a war” – “Pushed?” With respect, the US has done everything in its power to make sure all these flash points around the world FLASH. The clowns in DC won’t be happy until a few of our cities turn to green glass. Of the 248 armed conflicts that popped up since WW2 the US has started 201 of them. We are NOT “the good guys” and we don’t have the snappy tailors that the nazis did but I’m guessing that eventually, the end result will be the same as it was for the Germans in 1945 if we don’t turn this around.

        This attitude that we have a god given right to dictate to the world and (frankly) steal their shit without consequence will not end well. Eventually we’ll have to fight someone not living in a mud hut with no indoor plumbing and on that day we may just have our asses handed to us.

        • Yeah, it’s funny to see these jerkoffs claim the US is being drawn into war, when it’s nothing more than a rogue nation state doing everything in it’s power to start wars.

          If the Russian and Chinese military landed in Washington DC and announced “we’re just here to kill ever goddamned piece of shit in DC, then we’re going to leave”, only the most brainwashed fool would object. I’d be at my local bar buying rounds.

      20. I wonder if the 2010 food harvest was bought by people in the know because it was the last clean food harvest before fucashima. All that buying lead to a shortage and high prices that’s why the food riots of 2011 ? With the ongoing radiation release and its accumulative effects might as well have an all out nuke smack down ,try to grab as much as they can before they go underground? Or in special decontaminated area? While we slowly rot. But as written God shows up , with miracles as in the days of Moses. And burns the Tares, creates a new earth.( cleans up our mess ). And the smart virgins live happily ever after.

      21. “And Them That Dies, Will Be The Lucky Ones.”

        Long John Silver
        Treasure Island

      22. Well, I guess the entire military wants to see their friends and families incinerated. Oh well.

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