Are They Arming for Riots Across America? Homeland Stockpiling “Less Lethal Specialty Munitions”

by | Apr 3, 2015 | Conspiracy Fact and Theory, Emergency Preparedness, Headline News | 160 comments

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    One of the biggest stories for years in the alternative media was the mysterious and foreboding purchase by Homeland Security of more than 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition.

    Thanks to coverage on prominent sites like DrudgeReport, the story reached into mainstream media, prompting official spin and downplaying of the purchase.

    Now, a new Homeland Security purchase order listed on FedBizOpps  also raises an eyebrow or two, given the heated and divided political and social climate at hand. Just look at what happened in Ferguson…

    A request for “less lethal specialty munitions” for use by Homeland Security dated March 23, 2015 reads:

    U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) intends to solicit responses to Request for Information (RFI) 20082225-JTC for Less Lethal Specialty Munitions (LLSM) for use by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). CBP is interested in incorporating commercial and industry practices that support this type of procurement. To accomplish this, CBP intends to make industry a partner in all facets of the acquisition process, specifically by considering existing market capabilities, strengths and weaknesses for the acquisition of this commodity.


    Over the course of 9 pages (PDF), the technical requirements call for an arsenal of specialized weaponry for training and deployment against crowds.

    On top of a wide range of gas and chemical grenades, rubber bullets and other riot rounds, the purchase calls for “controlled noise and light distraction devices,” including flash bangs which set off a 175 dB sound with 6 – 8 million candelas light bursts in 10 milliseconds.

    So why are the Feds prepping to take on crowds?

    Officially, the request is put through Customs and Border Patrol, a subset of the Department of Homeland Security, but it is unlikely that the equipment will be used to protect the border and keep out illegal aliens. But the riot gear and crowd control devices have many potential uses.

    Perhaps, the equipment for use in instances like last year, when protesters in Murrieta confronted Customs and Border Patrol agents and blocked buses carrying a wave of illegal immigrants from Central America?

    The requested equipment includes:

    Hand Delivered Pyrotechnic Canisters, including

    • Smoke Canister for Training (Reduced Toxicity)
    • Continuous Discharge Large Smoke Canister (Operations)
    • Continuous Discharge CS Canister
    • Orange Colored Smoke Canister
    • Green Colored Smoke Canister
    • Pocket Tactical Smoke Canister
    • Pocket Tactical CS Canister
    • Three Part Sub-Munitions CS Canister
    • Non-Burning Internal Canister OC Grenade

    Non-Pyrotechnic Indoor/Outdoor Use

    • Flameless Expulsion Grenade (OC)
    • Flameless Expulsion Grenade (CS)
    • Flameless Expulsion Grenade (Inert)

    Hand Delivered Rubber Ball Grenades

    • Rubber Ball Grenade
    • Rubber Ball Grenade (CS)

    40mm Launched Specialty Impact Munitions

    • 40mm Direct Impact Sponge Cartridge
      40mm Direct Impact Sponge Cartridge (OC)
    • 40mm Direct Impact Sponge Cartridge (Marking)
    • 40mm Direct Impact Sponge Cartridge (Inert)
    • 40mm Sponge Training Rounds

    Crowd Management Projectile Cartridges

    • 40mm Smokeless Powder Blast (OC)
    • 40mm Smokeless Powder Blast (CS)
    • 40mm Long Range Canister (CS)
    • 40mm Long Range Canister (Smoke)
    • 40mm Cartridge Four Part Sub-Munitions (CS)
    • 40mm Cartridge Four Part Sub-Munitions (Smoke)
    • 40mm Aerial Warning Munitions (100 Meters)
    • 40mm Aerial Warning Munitions (200 Meters)
    • 40mm Aerial Warning Munitions (300 Meters)
    • 40mm Aerial Warning Munitions OC (100 Meters)
    • 40mm Aerial Warning Munitions OC (200 Meters)
    • 40mm Aerial Warning Munitions OC (300 Meters)

    Controlled Noise And Light Distraction Devices

    • Distraction Device Compact
    • Distraction Device
    • Distraction Device Reloadable Steel Body
    • Distraction Device Reload
    • Command Initiated Distraction Device Reload
    • Distraction Device Training Fuse
    • Distraction Device Training Body
    • Multiple Detonation Distraction Device
    • Low Profile Distraction Device
    • Command Initiator

    Ferret Rounds

    • 40mm Ferret Round (OC Powder)
    • 40mm Ferret Round (OC Liquid)
    • 40mm Ferret Round (CS Powder)
    • 40mm Ferret Round (CS Liquid)
    • 40mm Ferret Round (Inert Powder)

    The ferret rounds are designed to penetrate barriers and deliver debilitating or disrupting chemicals:

    “The projectile shall be designed to penetrate barriers of glass, particle board, and interior walls. Upon impact of the barrier, the nose cone will rupture and instantaneously deliver the OC liquid on the other side of the barrier. “

    The collection of equipment provides a diverse range of toys with which authorities could push back crowds and potentially intimidate free speech as well.

    Are there more riots coming? Is widespread civil unrest only a matter of time? Is it related to martial law exercises like Jade Helm 15?

    What do the Feds know that we don’t?

    They are getting ready… are you?


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      1. For the awareness of our serious situation to reach critical mass, we need to get the masses to start thinking critically.

        • Sure would like to have some of those ‘toys’ listed above…
          I know, critical thinking…

          • ahh, that reminded me of the joker, asking of batman, “where does he get all those WONDERFUL toys?”

            • “Ferret Rounds” sound like they’ll be better used to drive people OUT of their homes/hiding places, not disperse crowds. I’d say those rounds are for preppers trying to stay away from the mess, not rioters.

          • Eppe,
            go get a book called “The ultimate guide to U.S. special forces, skills, tactics, and techniques” by Jay McCullough, although some of the info is not very good for us, there a a couple of sections on there you will like ( IF you know what I mean) you can have some of those goodies you wanted !

          • Eppe,
            i sent this twice been blocked out twice, so lets try a third time, go get the special forces guide, b y Jay McCullough, you will find how to make your own toys from home, just saying!!!!

            • Apache54, what I have stockpiled are definitely lethal and not toys. They are intended for scum such as DHS and whatever allies they get lined up to help them. Even with foreign troops, there’s no way they can lockdown this entire nation.

              • Seems you brag about your “stockpile” too much. You might want to rethink that.

                Just sayin.

                • Braveheart is always bitching about something or bragging about something. This is nothing new.

              • I will fight the kind of war, that Uncle Sam taught me to fight! A gorilla war, a “War of Attrition!” And I’ll take them on my own terms (one at a time!) and at my own pleasure! If I want or need equipment or munitions, I’ll just take their’s, after I dispose of them, FIRST! What excess equipment, weapons, and munitions that I aquire in the process, I will arm and train other’s with it! It will be mighty costly for them, and that I can surely guarantee! Sniper’s Creed: “One shot, One kill!”

                • Big Friggin Deal: The entire DHS has only 240,000 personnel, of which more than half are not armed (only support). The biggest chunk of armed personnel are CBP which man all the ports of entry into and out of the U.S. To use them as an internal security force would mean closing every airport, seaport, and land boarder crossing (300+) in the 3/4th largest nation in the world. That’s not going to happen because big business who really runs this country won’t let it. And please, don’t anyone mention U.N. troops, that band of pussies couldn’t stop den of angry Cub Scouts.

          • I was thinking the same thing. Where is the store that sells that stuff? I want some. Not fair they get that stuff and we don’t. Going to have to hit up some firework places on the Injun Reservations in Nevada. Maybe not as safe and same as the above stuff but should get the job done.


            • No, it is not just unfair that they can have the things that they prohibit you from having. Rather it is fucking tyranny. They are the government, which was intended to be of the people, by the people, for the people. Anything they can own, it’s because WE let them own it. Not the other way around. Their ownership of something they ban from us is purely unconstitutional.

          • Anyone watching ‘Killing Jesus’ on Fox channel? 2nd showing now. Different way of looking at the death.
            Any comments???

            • Enjoy the fiction.

              • No, this one is up your alley, it makes Jesus out to be not what religion makes him out to be. It is a kind of negative outlook on Jesus being adgrandisized because he did a few miracles. A totally different way of looking at history as it is written…
                Just saying…

                • Eppe, thanks for the synopsis, now it’s got my attention. I see it is still on and will watch for awhile.

                  • Nobama, thanks for watching, I question everything, so do not feel alone…
                    Be well…

                • I heard O’Riley make a statement about the book saying that there a places where the Biblical account is “inaccurate”. So, I guess O’Riley is the ultimate authority here.

                  The truth is…O’Riley is an arrogant jerk. I think I’ll take the Bible’s account as accurate.

                  “Let God be true and every man a liar” Rom.3:4

                  Once I heard O’Riley make that statement, his book lost all credibility.

                  (kind of throws some doubt on his other works as well….”Killing Kennedy” in particular, where he just toes the Warren Report line the Oswald was the lone assassin and there was no conspiracy)

                  The more I hear O’Riley, the more I believe him to be a moron.

                  • By the way….O’Reilly even suggesting that the facts of the death of Christ differ with the Biblical account is ludicrous on it’s face, since O’Reilly’s knowledge and understanding of the Bible is abysmal. I base this on other comments I’ve heard him make over the years regarding the Bible.

                    To quote one of O’Reilly’s own expressions. “He’s a pinhead.”

            • Eppe,
              I watched it and it was a gross distortion of what the Bible says. The actor for Jesus in the film was a tad cross-eyed. The facts in the Bible were not given in the movie. O’Reilly made Jesus look like He didn’t know who He was and needed John to tell him. Personally, I was heartsick watching it all. O’Reilly is being hailed as fantastic with his version of Jesus. For me, he got it from Satan rather than God. It was truly disgusting. This was something an atheist would have written. So many things in the movie were wrong. He said Jesus could not have spoken while on the Cross because his lungs could not have gotten air. Stupid.
              I emailed O’Reilly of my sentiments and I don’t believe he will ever see it. If he does, he will ignore the criticism. This is all too bad, he could have been a real witness for God…instead, he was a witness for satan, in my opinion.

              • WhyDieLost, You lost me at “facts in the bible”. The Bible is purely fictional. Made up by man for the sole purpose of fear-mongering power and control of man. I can’t believe how many gullible sheeple like you still fall for the BS.

                • Nobama,as you will. Any attempt at refuting, on my part, with you would be wasted since your mind is closed and locked. Live your life as you will. Blessings to you.

                  • WDL. Well said brother. A blessed Easter to you.

                • Gosh, How original! YAAAAAAAAWN.

                • Any time I hear someone use the word fear mongering is ridiculous. If u think the bible is fear mongering then Im sure u will be petrified if u get to witness first hand what the muslims have in store for u

                • And now its just a big money making scheme..where are all-ANY of those “miracles”now-??? Lol.

                • Who the hell are you to say The Bible is fiction? How would you even prove this claim? Hell, how would you even know? I’m sorry that you’re angry at God because your “sexual preference” is an abomination in His eyes, but don’t start making claims you can’t back up. Zeitgeist was only a movie…

              • Just because someone doesnt agree with your jesus story doesnt necessary mean they are athiest. There are many paths.

                • An atheist I can deal with.

                  I have bigger problems with those who claim they are Christians, yet do nothing but doubt the very faith they claim that they have.

                • Sorry Charlie…

                  That is a lie perpetrated on all of humanity by the great deceiver…All “paths” should read “the only” path.

                  John 14:6
                  “I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

                  Just spreading truth my brother.

              • O’Reilley is just another NWO shill.

                Watch his program. Watch how he carries Obama’s water. Watch how when he has guests on his show, he talks over them continually (because he is the final authority on everything don’t you know?).

                Don’t expect any kind of response from O’Reilly. His arrogance won’t allow him to answer a reasoned criticism. He is the Biblical definition of a fool.

            • ya…..FUCKK FOX

            • “Bones” of Jesus, “Gospel” of Judas… the synagogue of Satan is especially active during Holy Week (and Christmastide) to spew ritual degradation of Jesus Christ through their talmudvision networks.

          • ht tp://

            Fun stuff

          • They are preparing for a big party for the peasants all this fireworks WOW it’s going to be exciting !!!!

        • A trained skunk is more effective 😉

          • It is best not to take indian advice on how to stay free. But they do make good cigaretts and mushrooms i hear. And they can show you how to fill out the gov welfare papers.

        • Just before the 4th of July, go to a “serious” fireworks stand on the “Rez”. They carry some pretty hard core ordnances capable of creating a distraction for the “opposition”.

          • You can also roll several into one and make a bigger booom.

        • I know they are prepping, but so are some of us.
          Get a army technical manual, it is on unconventional warfare devices and techniques
          It will tesch you how to make lots of neat stuff to fight bach when time comes

        • then we’re fu#$@%ed.

      2. RE: ‘Jade Helm 15’

        Megyn Kelly said it is just training:

        I agree it is training.

        Where I diverge is the military does not train unless it is to prepare to actually use that training live.

        My take a ways are:

        The Bundy ranch proved that social media can be used to stop gov’t in it’s tracks

        Obama not only created an executive order to “unplug” the internet, but his latest this week allows him to control all servers, etc… effectively controlling information and leaving the internet up and functioning. If his is the only story, more will believe it.

        There have been similar training exercises all over
        the united states. This is the first multi-state coordinated training. It also serves to condition the public not to take note of this sort of activity when it happens for real.

        The central banks (fed included) have been caught directly intervening in securities markets (buying securities) to prop up the appearance of prosperity

        Every matrix shows the US, and World economy at large, are slowing/deteriorating

        How I think this will play out:

        Stock market crashes, grid failure, or something similar

        Gov’t blames cyber terrorism

        Gov’t locks down internet (complete shut down under the guise of protecting vital infrastructure). This will stop the grass roots from mobilizing and stopping what will follow, like happened at the Bundy Ranch.

        Gov’t re-activates internet but shuts down alternative news sources and social media.

        Gov’t utilizes the previous training to round up conservative leaders (talk show hosts, writers, bloggers, local leaders, libertarians or anyone deemed likely to be a problem).

        Gov’t controls message that they are either doing more training, or just blacks out what they are doing entirely.

        Gov’t utilizes agreement with Russia to have foreign troops on American soil “in the event of crisis”. The foreign troops are utilized to do the dirty work, since you would be hard pressed to find Americans willing to run mass detention centers or kill… if the “take over” fails they can blame any crimes on the foreign troops.

        Why do I think this?

        Short answer History.

        History has a tendency to repeat. Normalcy bias is thinking because it has never happened here (to a person personally, or in one’s personal experience) it will never happen, and yet all the pieces are in place…

        • 300 lb.
          remember OBUTTHEAD, just took over the internet and with that a BUNDY style happening could be media controlled and lots of people might not know what is happening! they are getting there ducks in a row and it will not be pretty! gonna be one HELL of a ride!

          • Apache54 and 300lb. gorilla, we need to get our ducks in a row also. whoever comes to act against me does so at their own peril and I don’t care who they are.

          • There’s this thing called ham radio……… the word will get around. Maybe not as quickly, but with a little help from some friends…..

        • Don’t expect a total shut down of the Internet. They have an enemies list, only those will be effected, it will look glitchy and intermittent. Mention a keyword in a post or email and it will just disappear.

          The rest of America will see nothing wrong. They will keep watching their movies, texting and tweeting in total ignorance.

          In a move against the Bundy ranch any mention of Bundy or the place he lives will just go to data dust everywhere on the Internet.

        • Megyn Kelly also said “Sometimes we need big brother”. Megyn Kelly is a sell out.

          • She just another bubblehead blond Fox tool ala Ann Coulter….

            • Foxglove, agreed. She’s also supposedly a feminist; only recently found that out. No surprise there. All of the talking heads in MSM are shitheads anyway.

        • Do you really think Russia would send troops to defend the govt that is antagonizing their country and trying to get Russia into a nuclear exchange? REALLY?

          I think if Russia kicks anything over here, it will be military targets, or if we’re really lucky, the Washington DC headquarters of the NWO, including the white house, congress/senate, UN and NATO.

          But we couldn’t be so lucky…

          • We should have kicked out the UN years ago, bunch of socialist countries trying to get the US to follow their ways like the SHEEP that they are. They for the most part have all given up their rights to own guns. It would be a sad state of affairs if they found a way to convince us to turn in our guns would it not?

            • We were instrumental in creating the UN for this very thing. Research “Freedom from War”. It is the plan written in 1961 by our state department to disarm the world’s peoples, transition to international law that is determined, dictated and enforced by the UN. A police state in every nation state to enforce said international law.

              It’s tyranny, it’s in print. For a full run down on the tyranny, or at least enough to hang em by… check out , tyranny 101, January 18th archive. It’s beyond questioning people. It’s intentional, as if you don’t know….

              They have sold the people out, there is no political solution.

              As to the Russians…… obama told medved to tell putin, hold on, after the election I can get things done…… does anyone need more proof the soviets run our government…. Joe McCarthy was dead on, they did infiltrate our entire society. Plan for a nuclear event of magnitude. They can’t fight the American people, we are way to capable…. When things are crazy, they will strike hard.

              • mark,
                If you haven’t read it, get M. Stanton Evans’ book “Blacklisted by History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and His Fight Against America’s Enemies”. It was published in 2007.

        • Funny, I’m reading the Declaration of Independence this evening and I cannot help but see the similarities between then and now allowing for the change of times.

          The Declaration of Independence: A Transcription

          IN CONGRESS, July 4, 1776.

          The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America,

          When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

          We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.–Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

          He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
          He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
          He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
          He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
          He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
          He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
          He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
          He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.
          He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
          He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.
          He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
          He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.
          He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
          For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
          For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
          For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
          For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
          For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:
          For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences
          For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:
          For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
          For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
          He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
          He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
          He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
          He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
          He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

          In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

          Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

          We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

      3. ah… unless I read it wrong..this is for border patrol?

        U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP

        just saying


        • Yep, like the Social Security Agency (etc.) all of those rounds of ammo…

          Just say’n 🙂

        • Since they no longer do any border protecting or even pretending to resist the unending Obama sponsored invasion why do they need any weapons at all? Should not MREs and nose wipes be more their style? After all these new residents of our formerly great nation will be hungry and dirty.

          • Perhaps Nancy Pelosi will wash everyone’s feet…

      4. Ok, they can use the toys, we’ll use the real stuff.

        • they may start with this stuff, but the real question is when will they switch and will we see it coming?

        • Confederate, I have the real deal myself and will use it if/when I’m forced into such a situation. They are the primary reason I stockpile it in the first place.

          • Have you EVER heard the term OPSEC?

      5. I’m still wondering what those 349 AK47 silencers the Navy was trying to acquire off the books through a clandestine manufacturing scheme were for.

        I’m much more concerned with what they were intended for than any rubber bullets and such. I’m really not buying into the suggestion they were for overseas operations, or at least not restricted to them.

        • Absolutely. You remember obungler has his own kill list”…

        • Those might be for SEALS. In Vietnam, they dressed like the VC, and carried AK’s so that from a distance, they would blend in while infiltrating/exfiltrating…

      6. the high side? at least their not lookin for “beehive” munitions.

      7. Last I looked my Port surplus was FMJ

      8. WHAT……….are THEY….planning for? I showed this article to my wife…..she is wondering the same thing… Just gave me a sorry hon…….God have mercy on this country

        • Since a lot of this stuff is meant to shoot through walls both exterior and interior one must conclude that they will be the ones doing the attacking. I would expect that somewhere in the future they will start moving current occupants out of their homes in order to move in our newly minted millions of formerly illegal alien citizens. This will probably cause some resistance. Especially if the big screen TV goes with the deal. What no football or DWTS? Time to face facts that the govt. now considers us the enemy. Only question is what can we do to prevent it.

          • John W., there’s no question they will attack and I, for one, will stand up and fight. They better be ready for my 00buckshot and no. 4 birdshot, plus some sabot I picked up in GA last week. They won’t like the way I play.

      9. I have had a chance to play with all of these little toys. If they start launching OC and CS together you had better have a good gas mask. Remember the filter is only good for about 4 hours. Don’t depend on surgical mask and goggles.

        Never wash with hot water, the colder it is the better, and the soon the better. (Little advise get the hell out of the area!) Cold water keeps your pours closed because the OC and CS likes open pours. Never rub the effected area. Milk will help but the more water you have the better.

        I see that they are looking at using powder agents. That stuff is nasty. You spray it in an area or air drop it and then heard the people into the area and they spread it on each other by running through it. Cool “A”.

        Take you close off out side I mean everything. The last thing you want is to get it into your house where the heating or Air conditioner can spread it.

        Oh by the way make sure you don’t get hit by one of those rounds getting launched at you from a tear gas gun. They hurt like an Son-Of-A-Bitch! 20 yards in the back of my leg in a training exercise. Put me right on my face.

        When the time is Right and the Guberment is over stepping the Constitution I will give you advise to help you. I’m not giving it know because there are places like Ferguson that would us it.


        • @ Sgt Dale, the time has already passed and been overstepped, friend

        • Sgt,
          thanks for the info. stay safe!

          • :M”
            The person was lucky they had on a heavy coat. All I had was my BDUs on.
            I bet there was a large hicky on their back.
            What I can’t understand if you are going to riot why they never dress for it.
            I is like going to play baseball with out a bat and glove.
            You know that they are going to use the stuff. I guess you can’t fix stupid!

            • …or like catching rubber bullets without a catcher’s mask and mitt? 🙂

            • Riots and demonstrations are not for seriously confronting the cops or they would bring weapons. What is the point of protecting yourself against gas and such. That would just prolong the event which they are going to lose anyway as far as holding ground is concerned.

        • Sarge, let them come at me with that stuff. I’ll be ready with the real deal for them.

      10. beware of zog gestapo sniper teams
        and under cover gestapo agent provocateurs.

        just keep in mind when they deploy for the riots they will also be deploying high angle over watch sniper teams, exterior cordon sweep teams and fast response teams.

        and will have a few flying uav’s as well monitoring you from the sky.

        if you choose to engage them do it from 500 meters or more with a one shoot from snipers nest cover and scoot engagement plan.

        • And don’t forget they now use gunfire directional sensors. which is why you only ‘shoot once and scoot’. so make it count by shooting into a large body of clustered together gestapo agents.

      11. We are arming up as well.

      12. Holy crap, I think I just lost a tooth, I need to start taking better of my teeth and gum. Needs. Just checked the shelves at academy, noting much left just a lot shot gun ammo and not much. 223 or M855. Maybe I need to cut back on toothpaste and dental floss. Most of the knives and spears and assortment daggers sold out..this must be one hell of a hunting season or the citizenry is getting ready to do something I don’t know about..shtf, don’t you luv it.

        • NO. Only a crazy person would.

        • Drive down the road to Brenham. has 1000 rounds of green tip for $450. It’s PMC (Poongsan; Korean-made), but close to your place and cheap.

        • 6354 FM 50
          Brenham, TX 77833

          The ammo store is a bit off FM 50. The sign is highly visible.

      13. J H 15 just maybe a two prong test. First, to test the public reaction on a large scale. Second, to test the military on how they handle facing their fellow Americans. Anyway we are in for some interesting times ahead. Like I said earlier they have not faced any meaningful ARMED RESISTANCE from the American people YET.

        • Thats just what I have been thinking .Only at the Bundy ranch and they shagged ass out of there . If our information and communication is shut down by them before we have our shit together we may be a day late and a dollar short in our defense of the targeted area . I think it may be time to throw caution to the wind and get out there and talk with your community and get the low down on who is with the people and who is not .

          • The saddest part is, “The Sheeple” have no frigging idea who is with them, and who is not. They’ve been taught to hate veterans, patriots and preppers, and love the govt. They don’t have enough sense to see the manipulation for what it is. They’ve been taught to lay themselves prone and wait for judgment.

            “Lay prone and wait for judgment”? I don’t think so, Tim…

          • If communications are shut down, the organized mass destruction of traffic signals may slow them down in their assault on the American people. Traffic snarls will create chaos–MRAPS need to use the roads for the most part, and will be trapped in the same traffic snarls.

        • Copperhead, Ferguson was only a dress rehearsal for what I think is coming in summer. I’ll be ready, locked and loaded. i better make another ammo run this weekend.

      14. if a few hundred whites got knocked of in some cities, it would be just another day as they don’t stick together, but if a few blacks get killed in the wrong cities when the warm weather gets here,
        there’ll be riots, protests, looting ect.

        • And it was a LONG winter too. The riots we’ve seen before will be nothing compared to the riots to come.

      15. Let the games begin.

      16. They can play with there toys. I’ll play with my AP-20s.

      17. In a simple word YES
        The question that should be ask is simply– Are you preparing for whats coming?

      18. What does all this mean? Various types of ammunition fired from a M203 grenade launcher. 40mm. First off, I would not want to be hit with the projectile. Need head and body protection. OS and CS gas would need a gas mask. Good filters and means to decontaminate. Reading that earplugs and closing your eyes can help against flash bangs. Must included pepper spray/paint balls plus rubber bullets and ballistic bean bags. Oh, my.

        Thermal and sound disruption units to be used later.

        There will be a Hot Time in the Old Town Tonight.

      19. Warm weather is here. A couple of police incidents(Fergusens) and the rioting will start in the cities. Perfect Storm country what with things here and abroad happening.

      20. About time for the Air Conditioned Rambo’s to show up.

        Might be good to look up information on how the long range patrols did to combat heat and high humidity. The clothing they wore and the ways living in the bush. I remember truncated gloves, bloused pants, swamp boots, wet towel and not wearing skivvies. Think about what type of gear, hydration, weight of your load out and duration.
        Not many want to talk about this portion but you can keep this info in the backup file.

      21. Man I want an m14 not no ruger shit the real deal. So much fuckin $ for them. My old man had one Back in Vietnam he said they wanted to take it away and give him a m16 and at the time they were jamomatics. He told them no way I’m keeping the m14 and they let him too. He told me it was a great rifle and it went everywhere with him. Anyway rioters can burn the city down there aren’t enough firemen to put a city on fire out. Plus if there are dangerous people running around why would they be out there trying to put fires out. Look at ferguson an angry public is way more powerful than every cop in town trying to combat it. The one thing I know is the cops will be sent to protect the rich peoples interests the wealthiest businesses banks town hall the local walmart. They are just using riot police to intimidate the community. Go on youtube look at ukraine the authority’s tried to control it but people were so fuckin pissed off it descended into war there was a lot of blood. Ferguson was a bunch of hooligans compared to Ukrainian riots. I’ve seen some exotic 12g rounds expensive though.

        • Asshat, I’ve got some of those 12-ga. goodies myself and will use them if/when necessary. I’ve also tested a few and am very impressed with them. Yes, expensive, but worth the extra $$$.

        • definitely get the 7.62-51 m14 with bayonet if you can afford one.

          both iraq and afghanistan have proven it is a more effective killing tool than the light weight m-16.

          plus it can be used as a anti-material rifle as the 5.56 m-16 can’t.

      22. Lest than lethal M2 AP?

      23. We ALL KNOW what is happening…our job now is educating our young ones ….give them the knowledge and the power to carry on after WE have defeated the abject evil among US…teach them HOW to Survive and they WILL go forward with This Republic

      24. I just took a stupid pill,

        I’ll be sure to be in a controlled group.

      25. FOB

        The question is whether they can outlive the learning curve.

        • Yep, they can….the influence of the family has sadly changed over the years……what was once common place and encouraged, is NOW looked upon as “wrong”….
          WE are facing a battle…and I have said before that it will be a battle of good vs evil…I have not changed my opinion on that..

      26. FOB

        Over the years I have become cynical and need to see a change of heart in this land. Until then.

        “It appears to be a long, time
        Such a long, long, long, long time, before the dawn.”

        Crosby, Stills, Nash

        • Slingshot, love is the key. It is all that one really has
          Please understand ..that it’s “more than a feeling”….hope to meet you sometime. and I will also say this…LOVE is the ONLY “thing” you can “take” with you….the only “thing” that matters…LOVE will “win” the battle of those who

      27. Here’s a question about those projectiles that are supposed to come through your drywall and pepper spray you. What happens if none of your walls have drywall? Does the spray ruin wiring or insulation inside your outer walls? I’d like to know because if they can only penetrate drywall, they won’t make it inside my house. And my walls aren’t plywood of any sort, inside or out.

        • Yea, dont think theyll go through the stacked cedar timber walls on my house, bullets will but not some alternative stuff

        • Your house have any windows?

          • I would think that bullet proof glass, metal grating, and wood shutters would stop something that can only penetrate drywall.

            • 3M makes a window film that will prevent glass breakage. I think it’s intended to protect from rocks, but have wondered how it would hold up against flashbangs, OC grenades, etc. Anybody out there work in a glass shop, and know anything about this stuff?

      28. Mean while at the Clever home.

        June, Wally Beaver lets go camping.

        June says I can not wait to skin a deer you kill with your .50 cal Barret Ward

        Ward says YUMM YUMM

        Wally says I can not wait to kill a Ground hog and make a pair of Boxer shorts out of it.

        Beaver says I am going to go fishing with a spear I can make from a young tree.

      29. I have no choice but I have to post and alert for the Katy Mason Rd area. If anyone is reading this. My martial arts instructor called me 4 hrs ago telling me that he was about to leave his house and noticed a black suv parked outside his house by his curve that he has never seen before.. he noticed that the car suddenly just started up, and just took off speedily. He says that be could not tell who was inside because the windows were tinted. Just letting your all know about the incident. I know that everyone is already watching everything but I have to post this, because be was shaken up by this.. we are being screwed with now.. This is real, not a prank..

        • Could have been a multlayered drug enforcement team that are everywhere in this country. Since they have done next to nothing to stop drugs I think their main job is to collect data on us for future use.

        • HCK,
          Before it happens again, be determined to run out there and brazenly take pictures of the vehicle, especially the license plate. You have every right to do that. If your teacher feels the need, have his wife cover him from indoors. Same goes for any unknown goofball who comes to your door. Take pictures. Then upload them to the cloud. Look up the plates on one of the sites that maintain public-domain data.

          I also keep a pair of binoculars by the door.

          Incidentally, this is not the place to share too much PII (Personally Identifiable Information). OPSEC aside, most people here can’t help you with local matters. Build tribe locally, get topo maps of your AO, and try to get at least one guy to serve as a combination collector and analyst. There are many sources on the Internet that can help you learn military-grade intelligence.

          Somebody in your group should read these books:

          Structured Analytic Techniques for Intelligence Analysis
          Spiral-bound – May 23, 2014
          by Richards J. Heuer (Editor), Randolph H. Pherson ISBN-13: 978-1452241517

          Open Source Intelligence Techniques: Resources for Searching and Analyzing Online Information
          Paperback – January 1, 2014
          by Michael Bazzell ISBN-13: 978-1494275358

        • Good video and my thoughts exactly. Thanks.

      30. You don’t need many guns when you are fighting a load of cowards and the only thing that can over come this fear for most americans is money and better guns than the sheep you are shooting.

        Sorry guys bit lets be honest most americans are full blow cowards and would never go toe to toe with someone their own size.

        Israel with its bankers owns you and you know it.

      31. I still do not see that we are any better off tactically than we were years ago. With the range of possible enemy combatants many have not figured out how we will fight them off.
        Your engagement of Police or Military will be different than a bunch of street hoods. No less dangerous but different. Probably not throw up the sandbags for the street hoods.
        When the going gets tough a few items to mention.

        Laced boots above the ankle.
        Wear a good leather belt. So it is a means to drag you from danger.
        Soft armor level 2 or 2a.
        Chest rig to carry extra ammo. 120 rounds.
        At least one battle bandage 4×7
        Helmet and goggles.
        Gloves and Knee protectors.
        Camel Back hydration.

        Sounds way out there? Look at what your adversary is wearing.

        • Slingshot.

          Look at a belt called the Wilderness Instructor Belt.

          These are actually meant to use as a regular belt, or one to use with a holster if you wish, but have a construction and buckle that allows you to use them as a rappelling harness (you need blue jean or uniform sized belt loops, a bit too wide and thick for most dress slacks).

          I’ve done many 80 to 100 foot mountain rappels using one and have absolutely no qualms in using them for anything from an emergency evacuation to a safety rope attachment on steep terrain to building or cliff rappelling.

          Around 45 bucks, not cheap but worth it. There are several competing brands, I cannot give testimony to their equal strength as I haven’t used them.

          • Sharon
            Thanks for the info. Should work for me. Do not have many dress pants. Practicing to look like the homeless. ;0)

        • No, you’re not “way out there”, slingshot. Those are all good suggestions. Readers of this blog should consider such things as those to be de rigueur. You might even add QuikClot, a battlefield litter, and one IFAK per person.

          It’s a good idea to try to work in at least one 3-hour ruck with a 40 pound pack every week. Practice in combatives, such as Krav Maga, is good, too.

      32. All of you should realize that you can be tracked by posting online and it is highly likely you will never get the chance to do anything to defend yourselves as you will be the ones woken up at 3 a.m. and disposed of. You’d better change your positions, hide your stuff. Maybe take to sleeping in a tree at night or some bushes.

        • Kate.

          Don’t you think we already know that. Are you saying we should cower and refuse to share information. Maybe we should run and hide. What exactly can you bring to the table? A defeatist attitude. The way things are today, many of us even without posting on the internet are the walking dead.

          • slingshot,
            Humans have been conducting psyops on blogs for a long time, and now they have adaptive software that reads blog posts and counter-posts disinformatsiya in order to confuse, discourage, mislead, or frighten victims.

            The post you just responded to doesn’t pass the smell test.
            Maybe “kate” is K.A.T.E (Kinetic Adaptive Terror Emulator).

        • I am 65 yrs old. People are needed and I will do what I can. I would not even think of trying to get someone too afraid to try.

        • Too late now especially for the more outspoken. They have all the advantages as regular people have to sleep and go to work etc. No contest if they really intend to lower the hammer.

          • You are either a bot or a sock-puppet.

      33. About 6 months ago, a serious shootout took place neat cypress on the outskirts of Katy Tx. The cop who told one of my friends that it involved over 30 people, black thugs and Mexicans gangsters, no one got killed. Asshat is right, most of these derelict can’t even shoot straight. Street thugs is not much of a threat. In this shooting incident they all used handguns. Soldiers are well equipped, this is a whole different ballgame..i have talked to soldiers, some of whom have been in serious gun battles, these guys told me that at some point the attacking soldiers will start to want to come to the subdivisions for women and girls, that they will have to step out of their tanks and mraps, that once the men who are armed “in Americans case” armed to the frikin teeth, that the men will know what is going to happen to the wife, sister, daughter, girlfriend that the response will be extremely horrific once they get pissed off..i asked them, what do you think the American people will do, they told me Americana are going to shoot back and go to war.. he said that the Apache gun ships, shootings, tanks blowing up homes and buildings, machine fun fire, etc will cause everyone, gangsters black thugs, veterans , patriots, police, that they will have no choice but to engage the enemy..the only way that a they can win against the people is off they bring in over 1,000,000 soldiers, don’t worry China has them covered coming in from Mexico, it will be a blood bath, literal hell on earth..this is what a veteran soldier told me..who ever is running jade helm thinking that them and Chinese can take Americans guns, and attack the women, have the Mexican army invade us, bring in Chinese soldiers, they have no idea what they are creating..when I say that the guns and armament is extremely bad, bad, bad, over the top, non the less horrific in Houston and it’s outskirt towns, invading armies need to know what they are getting into..muktiply that times 100,000,000 rounds just in Texas. I can see what Texas is a red zone on the jade helm map..with Americans being armed with the AR-15, Ar-10, AK 47, this is what the soldiers will getting a taste of..before we even heard the mention of Jade Helm 15 what happened first?
        They tried to band 223 and 5.56, since I run into people all the time, who tell me things publicly, since I like to gauge public opinion, I can honestly say, the government and those involved who plan to make jade helm go live, they are messing with fire..this will make 1776 look like a cake walk.

        • I do not believe that China is going to use violence to conquer the USA, and I do not believe that USGOV has enough manpower to pacify the entire country, or even the major cities. I can do no better than to quote John Mosby on those two points.

          “It is a popular myth in the preparedness world that the PRC is going to invade us in order to “get their
          money back.” This is nonsense, neo-conservative bullshit. The PRC is not to going to attack the US. I
          will repeat that, for the sake of record. THE PRC IS NOT GOING TO ATTACK THE US. They’re not
          going to bomb us. They’re certainly not going to conduct some airborne assault with parachute infantry
          forces. They’re not even going to set off an EMP weapon.”

          “The US is the cash cow that allows the PRC to reach their aspirations. We buy shitty products with
          built-in obsolescence, so that six months later, we buy the exact same, “new and improved” version of
          the exact same product, in a different color, all with a cute like “Made in China” sticker on it. We repeat
          this, over and over.”

          “The People’s Republic of China has a population of 1.35 billion people, as of 2013. In an article on the
 website, dated 20JUN14, financial writer Kenneth Rapoza, the number of Chinese
          millionaires (in US dollars, of course…) rose by 18% in 2013. That was a greater growth in millionaires
          than the international average of 14%. According to Forbes, there are at least 157 BILLIONAIRES in
          China. Those people want to continue getting richer, and the millionaires among the Chinese want to become
          billionaires. The PRC government is not going to shoot its cash cow.”

          “Ignoring the fact that the US possesses the ability to send the Chinese back the Xia Dynasty, even using
          twisted, Asian logic, it doesn’t make sense for the PRC to use violence as a weapon against the US. In
          light of their goals, there is no benefit in it for them. The goal of the PRC is to return the Middle
          Kingdom to its “rightful” place as the world’s sole superpower. Letting us spend our way into oblivion,
          beyond our abilities, is a certain way for them to accomplish that. Buying up investments that allow
          them to control more and more of our economic power is an even better way of accomplishing that.
          Trying to attack us, and finding themselves bombed back to the Stone Age is not.”


          Somewhat more realistically, the US currently has around 2.25 million troops serving on active-duty
          and in the reserve components. According to one source, the US federal government has another 11,000
          or so “paramilitaries.” This includes armed and armored federal law enforcement agents of the FBI.

          ATF, and DEA special missions units, as well as the CIA’s “Special Activities Division” (SAD). That
          total equates to roughly seven personnel to every 1000 people in the general population, but not
          counting those considered in the census, such as illegal immigrants and those on temporary visas.
          Of those personnel, many in the military will not willingly do much against fellow Americans. Sure,
          they’ll go out, and under direct observation of their chain-of-command, they’ll do their bit. There’s not
          going to be any real effort put into their actions though—except in self-defense. I have it on good
          authority that, even among CIA SAD personnel, there are more than a few like-minded and supportive

          Categorically, there is no way the US government can even begin to successfully impose martial law
          across the entire country, even if they pulled their collective heads out of their asses and brought home
          every American service member overseas. It is not going to happen.

          On the other hand, the alternative course in this theory is that the government will use those troops and
          law enforcement agencies to establish control over the cities, creating “green zones,” just like they’ve
          done in Iraq and Afghanistan. This would allow them to place the cities under martial law, creating a
          safe haven. This would require crackdowns on riots, but it would also help facilitate the investigation of
          “murders” of “young people of color,” and criminals, with the use of violent, no-knock, no-warrant
          raids on “patriot malcontents.”

          This—while I suppose possible—is not much more likely to be effective. According to the US Census
          Bureau, 80% of Americans live in urban areas.
          The ten largest cities in the country: New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, Philadelphia, Phoenix, San Antonio, San Diego, Dallas, and San Jose, have a combined population of over 25 million people.
          In contrast, in 2011, the population of Baghdad was only 7.2 million, and we had a total of 176,000
          Coalition Forces troops on the ground at the peak of the war effort, and could not control the populace.
          How many cities in the US have a population of 50,000, to be defined as urban? How many troops
          would it take to pacify those cities and turn them into “green zones?”
          END EXCERPT

          I will answer the question “How many cities in the US have a population of 50,000, to be defined as urban?”
          The answer is “497”. 42 of those urban areas have over a million people in them.

      34. Wouldnt it be nice to able to be buried 6 feet deep in unrecoverable in debt, owing trillions of Dollars which can never be paid back and STILL BE ABLE TO BUY ALL OF THESE TOYS?

        WHO in charge of any of these dreams we can afford all of this stuff? WHAT IS THEIR NAME?


        I know who is paying for them, we the people are paying them and it is we the people who they plan on using these things on.

        BUT WHO???


      35. There was a standoff last night on the other side of the city not a dumpy area but not the best either. Well the police had the street closed around the area but you wanna talk about the gear they had. All military tactical gear od green armor black helmets battle rifles night vision goggle. The guy shot himself in the leg and after hours negotiating with him he came out and surrendered. The police were on the news and they said that he was a good guy he just had problems. See what they are trying to do. Paint the good guys as having problems so he shouldn’t have firearms. I’m thinking one of the cops knows this guy to be a decent citizen but the guy was cracking because the stresses of being unemployed and not collecting unemployment anymore with bills coming due or his woman left him too. But the cops look like soldiers on the street now. They don’t need a fighting squad to get one guy come on. If they come to get one guy like this what do you thing they are gonna do when rioting breaks out. They will come with a brigade. They are screaming they’re gonna use less lethal bullshit I don’t think so.

        • …anybody hear from Iowa lately?

      36. Small teams of patriots constantly on the move. The one thing about the tyrants they will always come in vehicles everybody needs some type of anti material gun to disable common types of vehicles like pickup trucks and SUVs . Look at typical urban warfare In Iraq they use pickup trucks these are not armored and can be defeated with a penetrator round through the engine. Then the team can ambush with inti personnel weapons. Forget using vehicles they are a big noisy smelly target. This type of fighting the most powerful man portable weapons are the ideal. 50 cal Barrett is sweet I know it’s damn expensive but look at what it can do for you. They got 50 bmg at my local walmart. Its available I think savage makes a 50 cal.

        • A .338 WM, Lapua, or RUM is more than sufficient for your needs for the purpose you describe, why put up with the extra weight and expense of a 50?

          And all of the .338’s are a known standard hunting calibers so they don’t attract the extra attention a .50 would for just owning one.

          Of course, the 50 bmg round is also a viable hunting round for large and dangerous game as well (i.e. Rhinoceros, Elephant, APC’s, Cape Buffalo, Helicopters, Hippo’s, Tanks, Polar Bear, etc. All that other assorted stuff you’re likely to encounter on a hunting trip in dangerous game country.)

      37. No worries ! With the radiation level from Japan, we won’t
        live long anyway !

      38. Some of the posters here should show us how it is done.

        Run down to Mexico next week and take out one or two of the drug cartels.

        Listening to them talk, that is surely an easy task for them and they would acquire great acclaim for their very useful endeavor in the process,

        And if you can’t do that maybe you shouldn’t be talking like you can, it is much easier to take on a drug cartel than an organized and disciplined military trained police or paramilitary force.

        If the S really does HTF you’re going to be dealing with reality, not armchair commando fantasies.

        • I can see why you posted “anonymously”…are you lost? MSNBC is to your left.

      39. Something to think about: If somehow the country was to descend into an anarchic civil war scenario, or free for all,like the balkans, at this stage in history wouldnt it be likely that at least half of the citizenry would SO desire peace that they would quite willingly accept the presence of UN peacekeeers and absoloute martial law? I know if youre on this site you have no problem with targeting blue helmets,but think about someone bent on invading whats left of a fallen empire like the US….I could see some country like China taking the helm to restore peace on a humanitarian mission to assist war torn United States. The blue helmets add “legitimacy” in the minds of some. Pure speculation, but remember that the old virtues of patriotism are being replaced with a different worldview in the upcoming generations.

        • Definitely,
          Many many many folks just want everything to keep humming along with their blinders on and dont care what the government does to keep things as such, they would rather someone else be responsible for their safety, security and supply.
          Is interesting to hear the rationalization behind this crap. I know it really makes me not want to help anyone once the bubble pops.
          I know full well from my many conversations around here that the ones who scream the loudest for government control etc are the very ones who will be demanding that i help them out when their illustrious government fails them. There are a few real close to me who are in that camp and honestly is the one reason why i am considering bailing on my current situation rather than be stuck with people who have been unwilling to wake the hell up and pay attention.
          Tough calls for sure coming real soon.

          • Know what you are satin’. We have a couple of cocksuckers here who write for the local mullet wrapper and they are in Obummer’s camp. Just read a scathing story from one of them saying that if you want the real news, don’t watch Fox.
            And how wonderful everything is here in the USA. “We just need to be patient and let Big Brother take care of us. When law and order breaks down, they better not call on me.

          • But a tough call you must consider.

          • @kulafarmer: you are not alone! I am blown away by your post because I was thinking the same way yesterday. I went to the Mall and looked at the people working and thought “they have no clue what is going on in the real world.” It is SAD!

      40. The Feds are just planning for another typical summer in da city.

      41. Want to know why the murders and shootings are on the way up in the cities? Because of Eric Holders’ policy of “Disparate Impact”. He says that too many Black men are in jail. He says that creates “disparate impact” on the black community. What he doesn’t tell you is this: Black males are committing a disproportionate amount of violent crimes. That’s why so many are in jail. Eric Holder has set DOJ guidelines that require prosecutors to lower charges and punishment for black males. This returns more violent criminals back on the streets faster than normal. Thus we see an increase in violent crime in the cities, especially. Makes sense to a liberal mind.

      42. License to Kill

        htt p://

        “As the endgame approaches, those still nominally in charge of the collapsing empire resort to all sorts of desperate measures—all except one: they will refuse to ever consider the fact that their imperial superpower is at an end, and that they should change their ways accordingly. George Orwell once offered an excellent explanation for this phenomenon: as the imperial end-game approaches, it becomes a matter of imperial self-preservation to breed a special-purpose ruling class—one that is incapable of understanding that the end-game is approaching. Because, you see, if they had an inkling of what’s going on, they wouldn’t take their jobs seriously enough to keep the game going for as long as possible.”

        “As empires collapse, they turn inward, and subject their own populations to the same ill treatment to which they subjected others. Here, America is unexceptional: the number of Americans being murdered by their own police, with minimal repercussions for those doing the killing, is quite stunning. When Americans wonder who their enemy really is, they need look no further.

        But that is only the beginning: the precedent has already been set for deploying US troops on US soil. As law and order break down in more and more places, we will see more and more US troops on the streets of cities in the US, spreading death and destruction just like they did in Iraq or in Afghanistan. The last license to kill to be revoked will be the license to kill ourselves.”

        our empire is in a state of collapse
        I don’t think that it can be reversed
        hunker down and prepare the best you can
        circumstances are so much larger than individuals

        • continuity of government…. they’ve been aware for decades….pure evil, come hell or high water is their motto…… I’m sure it will be hell.

      43. Who should help who and where do we go.

        Me I am not going anywhere outside my state. If we have as many gun owners in every state, then they should take care of the business in their own state. I’m not going 2700 hundred miles across the country to fix what should be done by the people that live in that state.

        I have enough shit to contend with in my own state. There is nobody coming to save me. I’m on my own.

        • slingshot,
          You should try to ensure that you are not literally “on your own”. You don’t have to move to a fortified community in Idaho to be among like-minded people. Again, I quote Mosby and refer you to an essay of his.

          Ultimately, if we are to survive the continuing collapse of the nation-state system, and build resilient, self-reliant communities, we will—in alignment with human nature—revert to some form of neo-tribalism. The first people we should be looking at for our tribes are—of course—our kin. Does the phrase “my family is my religion” sound familiar to any readers of the MountainGuerrilla blog?

          Second only to our kin however, are those people—our friends and neighbors that we know and love—that make up our “kith.” Developing the level of trust of the blood oath nature of “kith” can be—has been—said to require three elements: suffering, discipline, and love. These cannot simply be shallow verbal tokens however. They have to be lived.

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