Elite Prepare to Hole Up in Luxury Underground Bunkers: “They Know Something The Rest of Us Do Not”

by | Nov 29, 2016 | Aftermath, Conspiracy Fact and Theory, Emergency Preparedness | 90 comments

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    This article was written by Michael Snyder and originally published at his Economic Collapse Blog.

    Editor’s Comment: It seems very apparent that those in positions of power, and with their ears close to the events in politics, economics and the condition of society are very concerned, and paranoid enough to invest millions into self-sustaining underground communities that are resistant to nearly any disaster.

    Truly, it would be a great asset for any of us to have a place in, or develop for ourselves and our family. But what is it, exactly, they the very rich seem to know about what is coming that is driving a huge boom in the upscale bunker industry? It would seem that there is more uncertainty and more reason than ever before to prepare for a major collapse of society, and a plan to survive a wide range of potentially-devastating scenarios.

    Why Are So Many Among The Elite Building Luxury Bunkers In Preparation For An Imminent ‘Apocalypse’?

    by Michael Snyder

    Do they know something that the rest of us do not?  There are tens of millions of ordinary Americans that are feeling really good about the future now that Donald Trump has won the election, but meanwhile the elite are feverishly constructing luxury bunkers at a pace unlike anything we have ever seen before.  So why are so many among the elite preparing for an imminent “apocalypse” when tens of millions of other Americans are anticipating a new era of peace and prosperity?  Are they smarter than most of the rest of us, or are they simply being paranoid?

    Without a doubt, something is going on among the elite.  Earlier today, WND published an article that discussed the fact that wealthy people “are quietly moving away from major cities” all over the globe because of concerns about security…

    Widespread media reports as well as independent investigations from groups such as New World Wealth suggest wealthy people around the globe are quietly moving away from major cities because of fears of social instability. Increasing crime, terrorism and rising racial tensions have all been identified as factors driving the exodus. Even the Daily Beast reported the introduction of large numbers of Muslim refugees into Europe has made once prosperous areas fraught with danger, in the opinion of some security experts.

    And just a few weeks ago a Hollywood Reporter article entitled “Panic, Anxiety Spark Rush to Build Luxury Bunkers for L.A.’s Superrich” talked about how “Oscar winners, sports stars and Bill Gates are building lavish bunkers” because of their anxiety about what is coming next.  The following is a short excerpt from that article…

    Given the increased frequency of terrorist bombings and mass shootings and an under-lying sense of havoc fed by divisive election politics, it’s no surprise that home security is going over the top and hitting luxurious new heights. Or, rather, new lows, as the average depth of a new breed of safe haven that occupies thousands of square feet is 10 feet under or more. Those who can afford to pull out all the stops for so-called self-preservation are doing so — in a fashion that goes way beyond the submerged corrugated metal units adopted by reality show “preppers” — to prepare for anything from nuclear bombings to drastic climate-change events. Gary Lynch, GM at Rising S Bunkers, a Texas-based company that specializes in underground bunkers and services scores of Los Angeles residences, says that sales at the most upscale end of the market — mainly to actors, pro athletes and politicians (who require signed NDAs) — have increased 700 percent this year compared with 2015, and overall sales have risen 150 percent. “Any time there is a turbulent political landscape, we see a spike in our sales. Given this election is as turbulent as it is, we are gearing up for an even bigger spike,” says marketing director Brad Roberson of sales of bunkers that start at $39,000 and can run $8.35 million or more (FYI, a 12-stall horse shelter is $98,500).

    This is all very odd, because among the general population interest in “prepping” has hit a multi-year low.  In fact, sales of emergency food and supplies are way down at the moment across the entire industry.

    So once again the question must be asked – do the elite know something that the rest of us do not?

    If they don’t, why are they spending so much time, effort and money on such extraordinary preparations?

    For instance, down in Texas one group of investors is constructing “a $300 million luxury community replete with underground homes”

    An investor group is planning for a doomsday scenario by building a $300 million luxury community replete with underground homes. There will also be air-lock blast doors designed for people worried about a dirty bomb or other disaster and off-grid energy and water production.

    The development, called Trident Lakes, is northeast of Dallas.

    Residents will enjoy an equestrian center, 18-hole golf course, polo fields, zip lines and gun ranges. Retail shops, restaurants and a row of helipads are also in the works. For those looking to “get away,” they’ll also be able to enjoy three white sand beaches and a neighborhood spa.

    Most of us could hardly even imagine such luxury, and this is yet another example of the growing gap between the ultra-wealthy and the rest of us in this country.

    If you do happen to be one of the ultra-wealthy, perhaps you may be interested in purchasing one of the extremely expensive U-shaped “Earthships” that one company has been constructing for the elite…

    Billionaires are buying up “indestructible” alien boltholes to seek sanctuary in during alien Armageddon or more-likely nuclear war and disaster.

    The US company creating the $1.5million “Earthship” eco-structures says humans “must evolve” and insists they “will soon be a necessity” for our species “to survive on this planet.”

    The bizarre U-shaped hideaways, which can reportedly survive in any climate, can be deployed to any part of the world and are self-sufficient enough to survive in isolation – during a killer virus outbreak or a radiation catastrophe.

    I have to admit that I felt a twinge of jealousy when I first learned about these “Earthships”.  They are completely self-sufficient, they are environmentally-friendly, and they sound like they are quite comfortable.  The following is what one reporter discovered when she visited a community of these “Earthships”…

    In addition to the cord-cutting power and self-sustaining water supply, each abode contains its own greenhouse. I could forage for figs, bananas, pineapple, broccoli, rosemary and chives in my fluffy socks. Or if the zombies weren’t looking, I could dash over to my neighbor’s place for supper. The Phoenix, a three-bedroom that sleeps six, dedicates one-third of its space to food production. Its tropical jungle supports parakeets and cockatiels (not for consumption) and a garden bursting with fruits and vegetables, including grapes, artichokes, lemons, melons, kale, squash, hot peppers and mushrooms that cling to a log. Chickens cluck around the back yard, which features a sunken den with a grill for coop-to-kebob meals. An indoor fishpond once contained a robust stock of tilapia before a group of guests threw a fish fry. Now, the littlest survivors swim laps with koi. For the dairy course, the staff is considering resident goats.

    It sounds wonderful.

    But once again, why go to all of this effort if a new era of peace and prosperity for humanity is right around the corner?

    I really like what Carl Gallups had to say about this.  Carl is the author of Be Thou Prepared, and this is what he told WND about the preparations that the elite are making…

    “I think that the rich and elite are becoming increasingly aware of the dangerous and potentially unstable world in which we now reside,” he warned. “Massive instances of civil unrest, even in America, are becoming a very real possibility. Internal terror attacks, swelling illegal alien populations, an influx of Islamic refugees, increasing racial discord, ambushing police officers, the rule of law continually being trampled by the political elite and an almost complete collapse of trust in the mainstream media – all of this has led to widespread cynicism and distrust among the population as a whole.”

    Gallups noted “the rich usually have deeper connections to reliable information and prediction sources, and most of them have the means to take immediate action.”

    I believe that Carl Gallups is right on the money.

    Normally I am extremely hard on the elite, but in this case I believe that they are showing much more wisdom than the general population.

    So many people are crying “peace and safety” right now, and yet we are right in the middle of what I have labeled “the danger zone“.

    Our world is becoming more unstable with each passing day, but there is so much apathy among the American people at the moment.

    I just don’t understand it.

    The self-destructive behavior that we are engaging in as a nation is a recipe for national suicide, and the warning signs are all around us, but because disaster has not struck yet most people seem to believe that the warnings that they have been hearing are not true.

    Meanwhile, the elite are preparing extremely hard for an imminent “apocalypse”, and I have a feeling that they are going to end up looking like the smart ones once it is all said and done.

    This article was written by Michael Snyder and originally published at his Economic Collapse Blog.

    GetPreparedNow-MichaelSnyderBarbaraFixMichael T. Snyder is a graduate of the University of Florida law school and he worked as an attorney in the heart of Washington D.C. for a number of years.

    Today, Michael is best known for his work as the publisher of The Economic Collapse Blog and The American Dream

    If you want to know what is coming and what you can do to prepare, read his latest book [amazon text=Get Prepared Now!: Why A Great Crisis Is Coming & How You Can Survive It&asin=150522599X].


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      1. I watch the price of gold and silver daily. At close today gold was down $150.69 per ounce. The largest drop I have seen since I have been watching. Any ideas what is going on here?

        • I don’t know much about investing, but my wild guess would be that gold is down because the dollar has been artificially inflated in value.

          Just my two cents…

        • I do not know what you are using for your gold price. The New York spot gold price is currently down $5.40 from yesterday’s NY close. This is from Kitco

        • Lock them in their holes.

        • Clean your glasses…..gold has been in the 1180-1190 range for the last week or so.

          • He said down liberal, clear your head from the Hillary chants.

        • My personal thoughts- invest in lead. Fuck these asshats telling everyone to buy gold and silver! Dumbass neo-hawks!

          • DMONIC, I’m still stacking ‘brass and lead’, my ‘precious metals’. LOL. Without those you can’t protect anything else you have.

            • They will throw their silver and gold in the streets?

            • At some point in the no so distant future we will start finding bullet projectiles made of solid gold or silver or both. (And most likely many OTHER semi-precious metals as well …whatever works will be MORE than “good ‘enuff’!


          • what am i to do with all my federal reserve notes after i have all that other stuff we will need to survive the apocalypse?

        • The site I got this bad info from was either hacked or somebody made an error. Made me wonder…

        • Wrong Tex,…Gold did NOT go down $150. It is just down $11 to $1175 today. It actually has been recovering somewhat over the last few weeks building a base. Silver just tags along for the ride at 72:1 Silver to Gold Price Ratio.

          There are 3 major events going to take place at the end of the year that some predict $2000 per OZ.

          1. The Islamic States are reclassifying Gold as a Purchase or trading commodity, which until Dec 31st 2016 it is against Islamic Law. There are Trillions of Mid-east dollars waiting in the wings to invest in these New Gold Trading stocks and including physical.

          2. China the Worlds largest Physical Gold holder is putting in place, an new Physical Metals Market with Price reflecting 100% Physical Gold backing to any paper Gold stock. They want to shake out this manipulative fraud produced by Wall Street and the Globalist banking cartel. That will create the real priced bases on real supply and demand. They are going to set the price of Physical Gold based on this factor. Paper ETF, IOU, Promise, Maybe, Gold Stocks are basically worthless and currently only have 1 ounce of Physical Gold in their possession, for every 252 Ounces of Paper Fake Gold they sling out there for the sheep to buy, and called ETF’s. That’s musical chairs game.

          3. Peak Gold – Yep just like oil there is only a certain amount of Gold mined and produced out of the crevases, and it is getting harder and harder to locate new Gold Reserves, and every year, I believe for the last few decades the Gold Mined and produces continues to shrink.

          Just these 3 issues Doug Casey says will drive Gold up at the end of the year to $2000 going forward, due to the large demand, lower supplies and new trading bases 1:1 Physical to Paper. So will shaking out the Paper Gold Hacks, and back to true market pricing.

          *And if you pay attention to the Recent moved in Physical Gold Purchases, master players who buy gold in Tonnes, like Russia, China, India, and the US, as well all the main global banks, which are stockpiling these PM’s Gold and Silver, I would do what they are doing, and not freak out over lows. You should use this as a buying opportunity to back up your truck and load up as much as you can on the cheap. Trade all your soon to be worthless Paper Fed IOU Fiat toilet paper into real Assets like Gold and Silver. Get rid of your $100’s, $50’s for starters for the PM’s. When this all crashes, the one true proven safe haven will be Gold and Silver.

          I would also say the safer play, and the more upside opportunity is in Physical Silver as the current price ratio is 1:72 right near the high point of 80 for the usual price ratio. The low point is about 47:1 ratio. Which means if todays Gold is at $1175 Silver could be trading at $25 today and it is just a matter of time when the price ratio drops down to 47. Historical charts say this 3 other times in the last 20 years like clockwork. So if Gold hits $2000 an Ounce Silver could be at $42.50 in no time at that 47:1 ratio.

          India gave their people just 4 hours notice when they started the ban on all currency bills above the $15 to $20 mark comparable to US Dollars. As we see the panic in the streets and entire economic sectors grind to a halt. So when SHTF being prepared, you can sit back and watch the sheep squirm, and you still are sitting on all your Gold and Silver and watch the price skyrocket, you preserved your wealth and will actually create more wealth as the value increases.

          Good Luck. It is true, the US Dollar was inflated via the election results, which in dollars sense, yes it brought Gold prices down some. But this is a blip on the screen. We will be all over the map in prices for weeks, as uncertainty set in, and watch and see what happens after Dec 31st 2016.

          • Correction: I’ll requote this again: I would also say the safer play, and the more upside opportunity is in Physical Silver as the current price ratio is 72:1 Silver to Gold, right near the high point of 80 for the usual price ratio. The low point is about 47:1 ratio.

      2. I believe we are experiencing a end of an age magnetic pole shift. earthquakes, volcano eruptions , floods ect are increasing in both occurance and Magnitude. Likely not a complete reversal. But a shifting on the magnetic poles and dramatic crustal plate movements. Of course the goverments don’t want you to know. They want you to blindly keep enabling them. So they make up and promote absurd things like man caused and man mitigated Glowbull warming.

        • Old Guy, didn’t Hollandaise ( from France ) say we “are X many days from climate catastrophe”?

          • Hollandaise Sauce is fantastic on my eggs Benedict!

          • There are all sorts of folks predicting things. I want ironclad proof? Where is the proof? time will tell.

        • This is not the first time I’ve heard of this theory. I can understand the pole shift. The USA would turn up – as in, the East coast would point north. The west coast would be pointing somewhat south. – If this were the case… There would barely be any survivors world wide. Not just in the US. Maybe that is why all the seed saving banks being stored. Seeds man, ya gotta have seeds. If we can’t eat, or drink, what good are we? – Toast – that is what we would be.

          We3 over n out – good night…
          Oh, Blow smoke down the air pipe and watch them surface really fast. haha

        • I actually agree with this, I think environmentally a pole shift is best explanation. The list of things you suggested, the excess bulging in yellowstone, mass die offs of migratory species, and most importantly let us not forget that a few years ago, airports across the world had to adjust their runways because magnetic north had shifted 15 degrees (FC).

          Cheers and Goodluck

        • Old Guy, Mother Earth is a continuous living creature growing and stretching daily like the movement of the tides. Been doing that for 5 Million years plus. Maybe you are trying to be the new fear peddler author here, slinging slop?

          If the Government wants to create a hoax to promote Global Warming, they will also use real data first every chance they can as proof to justify their control. Why would Governments not want us to know that? Your statement makes no sense.

      3. The funny part about the rich having a place to hide. They first have to be able to get to their safe place. I know many of them are planning on having the time to drive, or fly to their BOL when things go bad. I hate to pop their bubble,when things go bad they’ll never even make it out of town, before the “golden hord” sets upon them, tearing them to pieces.

        • Colt M4,
          I agree depends on what happens, but probably they will never make it to there under ground bunkers! unless they are VERY close to them, hope we never find out, but the world has so many issues and so many possibles for destruction at this moment, something will probably happen, choose your scenario could be anyone of many!!

        • Those better off in my AO live in their compounds. No travel required. Former owner of Iams (dog food) has a nice, multimillion dollar farm covered in ponds, fruit trees, animals… And surrounded by a very substantial fence and a very oblivious vehicle trap moat. His entire family seems to have been moved on site a couple years ago. It’s Not terribly subtle, LOL.

          Google 6621 diamond mill road, brookville ohio if you want to see the moat/hedges/fence layering……

          • Iams owner shitting rubber cookies in 4…3…2…

        • … kinda like King Louis the XVIth, eh! And even if they get to their BOLs, you have to wonder if they still won’t be found by the golden horde.

          How much better to prevent society from even getting to that point. But, of course, we have to fight George S. every step of the way for that…

      4. I try to look at all things militarily and while hiding underground might be logical for some events it’s dangerous for others. Underground bunkers might be great for nuclear or natural disasters but I wouldn’t want trapped underground defenseless for anything else. Just my thoughts of course…

        • SC, welcome and I agree. My BOL is above ground and that’s where I take my chances, period. I won’t go underground for any reason.

          • Never say never. Ive got a cave. stays 58 degrees year round. if necessary we can stay there with no heat just warm clothes. no need for electricity other than the 12 volt lights I rigged up. hooked a alternator to a exercise bike to charge the battery. hidden there we will nor leave any heat signal or telltale sign. I have very young grandchildren. Their survival and them passing on my DNA is very importiant to me because of my preferred religious superstition.

            • Smarter than a Cave Man eh? Try using capital letters at the beginning of sentences.. lol It will lend to your credibility. No, please do NOT pass on your DNA.

              • Get a life!

              • Zeus, you’re a fine one to talk. You an English teacher? And make sure you don’t pass on YOUR DNA!

        • I see things in a similar manner; coupled with basic engineering, that is. The real problem with any underground survival concept is that the basics of power, food, water, temperature range and air must be met by such a choice or construction. Food… can be stored and/or augmented by some method of agriculture within the structure. Power – can range from geo-thermal to any other likely and inherent self-production by those so sheltered (manual generation, methane production and so on). Water, if the location has well-water available the system could work on that front. Temperature is always a matter of insulation efficiency and power available. But…. air. That is the Achilles heel. Some vent, some intake is required. And that single point of entry – no matter how small or diverse can spell the failure of any underground shelter. From plugging to being compromised in many ways – air is the one point no underground shelter has yet been adequately addressed. Filters? Don’t make me laugh. Any filter can be overwhelmed.

      5. The real elite know plenty about bible prophecy and the book of revelation.

        • do they know anything about the book of Revolution?

        • If they knew, they’d realize it’s an exercise in futility. 15 And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders,[g] the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, 16 and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?” ~ Revelation 6:15-17

          • Spook that’s only revelant if you believe in your kind of bybull religious superstition. Religion is a Core Concept most are brainwashed into believing in their preferred kind of cult. Prepping isn’t a exercise in futility. That’s why I grow winter feed for my animals built barns for them. grow -purchase and store extra food and supplies. We prep for a worst case hard winter and if excessive bad weather happens we and our stuff can still thrive. We prep for events we hope never happens. If they have the extra money why not? At worst they fail but their money spent provided jobs and income for others. I stocked a well hidden remote cave with useful things. I hope It is all for nothing and we never have to resort to using it.

            • I have to admire the faith atheists put in science, since science cannot explain everything absolutely. Nobody understands what gravity really is, for example. Or the true size of the universe, much less its nature.

              But the real reason people like you don’t believe in God has nothing to do with science, so-called. It’s because you hate the idea of a moral Creator with Whom you will one day have to deal. So “do what thou wilt” becomes the “whole of the law”, as Satanist Anton LaVey used to teach before he literally went to Hell.

              Atheism is therefore every bit as Satanic as every other false religion – and yes, it too is a religion. The only thing is, it has more blood on its hands than even Islam or Roman Catholicism (during its Inquisition). How many tens of millions did the atheistic regimes of Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot send to their early graves? And yet, laughably, atheists try to tell us that religion per se causes all the world’s woes, (ignoring the fact that atheism, as a faith-based system, is itself a religion).

              • Nice work, Jay. You have it spot on. Religion, per se, is anything that tells us where we came from, where we are going, and why we are here. By that measure, atheism, evolution, even I suppose radical homosexuality is a “religion” (we came from pond scum, we’re here for personal pleasure and self-actualization, and are going to oblivion)

                Atheism, per the Black Book of Communism, Oxford Univ. Press, murdered around 100 million last century. How dandy. And, as noted elsewhere, if there is no God, while atheists may or may not be immoral by cultural standards, they would be amoral, and their morality is finally only **preference** – they have no final basis for saying anything is ultimately right or wrong. Philosopher Francis Schaeffer put it “whatever is, is right” as what MUST necessarily follow the logic of the atheist. Dostoyevski put it (and yes, he DID write this) “If there is no God… *everything** is permissible.” Exactly as we see in the Circus Maximus/post-Christian America today.

              • Im not a atheist. Just not a bible thumping Christian. For the last 2000 years every generation of Christians there are some that really believe that they are living in the end times and so far all have been wrong. I never asked any one to die for my sins. I want full credit for all my deeds bad and good. I do believe in divine intervention and the Everywhere Spirit. I havent got a bit of use for religious dogma or organized religion.

              • Hey Jay from UK, if you don’t believe in science, then get rid of your Car, your Cell phone, Your medical devices and including drugs to keep you well. Lets see how long you last destitute, not following all that big bas science cult stuff. Instead, How about come join modern humanity and informed society, and put your cave dweller fiction on the shelf, or use it for fireplace tinder. It serves no purpose but to invoke hate.

            • OldGuy, I will agree with you there. You see these Christians think that anybody that doesn’t believe in their twisted cult based on miracles, and a magic wand surrounded by superstitions, is an Atheist and try to call Atheism a religion. I would call us more Truth’ers calling out the Fraudsters.

              But what they are actually doing, is revolting against their own religion when they begin to Judge others. They preach and peddle their BS the Bible does not condone. Ahhh… and that’s where the word “Hypocrite” comes into play.

              And it is by far, much, much easier pushing a camel through the eye of a needle, then any so called believers, receiving “Ever Lasting Life” Bible Fraud.

              Still waiting for them to bring some 400 year old believer to testify that it is indeed fact over fiction. Until they do that, it is just fraud. Jay from UK is an example of a Hypocrite. Read what he said.

            • Religion is not of God, but is merely man’s way of attempting to reach God. Christianity is God’s way of reaching man.

              Ideally, Christians should be a shining example to the world of God’s Love, Redemption, and Restoration. But Christians are part of fallen mankind and do not always live up to the high standards of their Savior.

              Follow the Lord Jesus Christ ultimately, not man.

      6. “An indoor fishpond once contained a robust stock of tilapia before a group of guests threw a fish fry.”

        ahahaaaaa….yeah, that right there.

        Knowing how hard it is to come anywhere close to ‘self sustaining’ in our above ground homestead, I can’t imagine anyone digging a hole in the ground and coming even close. Best they are gonna do is delay the day they run out of food.

        A “garden bursting with fruits and vegetables, including grapes, artichokes, lemons, melons, kale, squash, hot peppers and mushrooms that cling to a log.” might sound hunky dory, but there ain’t enough calories in all that to keep an elf alive.

        Only guy coming out sweet on these deals is the salesman and contractor.

        • Good insight TnAndy. I would think any disease that affected plants, animals or people would spread fast in an enclosed underground place.

        • That list of vegetables isn’t for calories, it’s for nutritional support. You cannot live on carbohydrates and protein alone and still be strong enough to fight of the hordes of zombie leeches. The system is intended for the majority of you’re calories to be pulled from the fish, while supplementing it with the various vegetables to add in the various nutrients (Magnesium, B12, A, etc etc). This larger system was also said to be a three bedroom, and clearly not built for Fish Fries.

          Cheers and Good Luck.

        • problem is, the salesman and contractor…..and all the neighbors…..and anyone that bothered to check on building permits…..or concrete company…….knows where your “tomb” is…..and all they got to do is close the door on the way out……………………………..

      7. Further to Anonymous’ comment on vote fraud, this is really just a rabbit hole. No matter what details I come up with, he will stonewall it. I really don’t have the time or interest to debate with people like this, and it would take MUCH more space than Mac would allow just to start. Worse, this data are not really fully ready, nor do I have the time to focus on this with a full time job I have. However, for those who want further, article length reading, here is one to start with: More Than 800,000 Noncitizens May Have Voted in 2016 Election, Expert Says http://dailysignal.com/2016/11/28/more-than-800000-noncitizens-could-have-voted-in-2016-election-experts-say/

        As far as I’m concerned, it is obviously true there is voter fraud (just ONE case proves that.) And of course the Project Veritas videos, along with Wasserman-Shultz getting turfed is evidence enough it is significant. But obviously, Trump was still elected, so it wasn’t significant enough, and therefor I really don’t have any further interest in following the matter, at least for now. .

        Incidentally, we also know for a fact that JFK was elected due to Daley’s voter fraud in Chicago. And as noted before, I have *personally* experienced the VERY dirty politics of the left on more than one occasion (first time was a bit like what got Armando Valladeres in trouble in Castro’s evil Cuba). It is all very, very real to me.

        • I remember when I was a Kid folks having heated arguments over kennedys election. The phrase Shafty Kennedy stole the election from Nixon sticks in my mind.

      8. A conservative sweep of the government is a SHTF for the left. To listen to the communist elites in America reveals they are terrified.

        The lies that the leftist three letter media have been feeding their sheeple for years, make them think conservatives will use the FEMA death camps the leftists have been building.

        The divide America rhetoric of the left the last 8 years has been a total success.

        The big question remains, is it a psyop or is the threat real.

        Obama has clearly been complicit to the idea of the sanctioned murder of hundreds or even thousands of Americans for his agenda. The Fast and Furious program was absolutely real, and came from the highest levels of the Obama White House. The F&F scenario was to put thousands of illegal guns into the hands of criminals and after they murdered hundreds/thousands of Americans then Obama would use it as leverage to overthrow the second amendment.

        So we know what they are capable of, we must also assume they have hatched many more schemes, the only question is will they, or have they already pulled the trigger?

        • I think the answer the that question is yes, they have pulled the trigger. I wondered why everyone on the left who had such kind words for Trump just backed off completely and acknowledged the results (sans Stein). Is it possible that itself was a test? They told you that Donald Trump would be the apocolypse, and it always seems the way they play this game is they tell you the truth concealed, and you have to decide. Is it possible that, Hillary was not a vote of continuing Obama policy, but instead Elite policy? Is it possible that a vote for Hillary was a vote to maintain and prop up the failing status qou? and a Vote for Trump was a vote to actively pull the plug? I’ve also thought it probably that they basically criminalized the Federal Reserve and banking system in America to prop up the economy and have it chug along. Hillary may have been the vote to keep that chugging along, while Trump means they let it fall. Will be interesting to see what happens.

          Cheers and Good luck.

        • Yep the Elite Losers are flocking to their bunkers cause Rope and Pitchforks went on sale, and are flying off the shelves. Its pretty much game over for these Frauds. I bet Soros, aka: American Hating Zionist Jackass is arrested and tried within the next few months. I would just catch the slob, and extradite him to Russia. Putin would love to serve him up a little justice. Why tie up our US Courts and Tax Payer Money for a trial.

      9. The rich elite growing things in their hide away? That is completely outside of their skills, which is being a stock broker, CEO or movie star etc. In a short time they will jump ship and be demanding the peasants feed them.

        • Lots of rich folks grow things. I know rich folks who grow cattle and row crops. I know rich folks who own thousands of acres of timber that is managed like a crop. Winthrop Rockefeller. Came to Arkansas and Built Win-Rock Farms. He personally had hands on involvement with Santa Gertrutis cattle. Growing different hay and forest crops. Managed his place to grow food and have wildlife habitat . Not all wealthy people are helpless. And not all are evil greedy. Many do give back. Possibly Trump is attempting to give back? He don’t need the money. He isn’t taking a salary. He don’t need the hassell and constant attack,s he is being subjected too. I get tired of folks demonizing some one because they have money. Just as many poor people are bad evil also. Ive been watching Shameless. Its funny because there really are folks like those depected in that show. The fact is a good man is a good man and a bad man is a bad man. No matter the status of his wealth , color of his skin, or the type or kind of religious superstition he choses to believe or not believe. And personally im a white racist redneck asshole who is a nostic. I relocated to a place where the national headquarters of the KKK is located. The population is less than 1/2 of one percent a race other than white. Im not dirt poor. but not wealthy. im well supplied and self reliant. I can kill a snake or leave him be.

          • It’s easier for a camel to get through the eye of a neddle . Then a rich man to get in heaven?

          • Yes this. The powers of division are strong, and the most effecient one now is classism. In my experience, the wealthy people I have encountered are the ones most prepared. Doctor with a fortress of a modern home on the outskirts of town, and a 300 acre managed forest tucked ever further away. A lawyer with more ammo than many people have seen tucked in their basement. Prepping is kind of like voting for Trump, a lot of people keep it on the down low (Which includes posting on websites like this one. Which on that note, if you were ever concerned about that infamous government coming for you’re supplies, then you shouldn’t be posting here.) It’s all to convenient to pit people against each other, so they all do not focus on the small threat that exists spread out everywhere. Would be nice to convince all the racists and bigots that their true enemy isn’t someones race, sex, religion, or sexuality. After all, extremism is extremism regardless of what form it takes.

            Cheers and Good luck

          • Old Guy

            Good post.

      10. get your hand on a copy of 2012 movie and watch, that will kinda give you a warm and fuzzy on how it works of who survives

        • I see a resemblance. About half the Cubans hated Castro and the other half loved him. The same in the good old USA today half despise Trump or Hellery and Half love them? He was what he was? And we have what we have? It all depends on how you perceive it.

      11. That’s not a luxury bunker in the photograph above. I wouldn’t have those cheap plastic chairs. That’s Chinese Wal-Mart crap. They will get brittle and collapse in just a few years.

        Tip: If you have any supplies stored in plastic bottles, such as lamp oil or shampoo, you might want to transfer them to glass containers.

        Many years ago I was partial to a particular cheap brand of shampoo. They redesigned the bottle to a flip-top instead of a screw top. I preferred the old bottle, so I would transfer new bottles of shampoo to the old bottle. Then one day I dropped the old plastic bottle nearly full of shampoo on the bathroom floor. The plastic shattered and there was shampoo all over the place. Have you ever tried to clean up concentrated shampoo?

      12. So what? I thought this was a prepper site. These guys are prepping. That makes them members of the 3%.

        • Not surprised you’d say that.

      13. During the 1950’s and 60’s rich people and upper middle class people, understandably afraid of a very real threat of nuclear war, built underground bunkers. These unused bunkers have since become a kind of joke. Those weird 1950’s people. But now we find ourselves once again, being provoked by fear of nuclear war or other calamities, to build underground shelters.

        If you are rich, a couple of million might be chump change. So you build it just in case. Or, on a more profit driven level, maybe these people have investments in the businesses involved in making and supplying these bunkers. There must be plenty of already rich people who stand to make a fortune if enough people become motivated enough to sink money into building and furnishing underground bunkers.

        I don’t deny that a bunker might come in handy. If I was rich, I would build down three or ten stories below ground to have the world’s greatest wine, cheese, swimming pool, and nuclear safe space.

        But as it is, I will be lucky to have a basement of any kind. I guess I could crawl under the house. My dog seems to like it.


      14. By God’s grace And luck, we may survive.

      15. Prepping is futile. Go under or bust.

      16. I’m of the opinion that if you have an underground bunker, it needs to be way off the beaten path with any entrance or vents concealed so that they are totally undetectable. This also means not having a trail leading to it. Total complete concealment of your location is the only chance you will have.

        You are fine in a bunker until it is discovered. Once your bunker has been discovered, it will be no problem for determined people to get into it. Or if they can’t get into it, they can just plug up your vents and totally block your entrance. At that point, you will be buried alive. That’s a pleasant thought, is it not?

        Above ground bug-out locations are only marginally better once your location has been discovered by marauders. Unless you have the weaponry and sufficient numbers of people to protect it, you will eventually be overcome. They’ll either lay siege to you, or pick you off when you go outside. Even if you are successful in holding off the looters, it is almost certain that some of your group or family members will be wounded. In a SHTF situation where rule of law is totally eliminated, it will only be a matter of time before your wounded are dead due to lack of proper medical attention.

        No static location can be defended indefinitely. All you have to do is have a knowledge of history to understand this.

        George Patton said that static defensive positions were monuments to the stupidity of man. Your only real hope is that the looters will decide that you location is too difficult or costly to overcome and decide to move on to a softer target. But if they are starving to death anyway, they will likely decided that it’s worth the risk.

        Another issue (that has already been mentioned) is that if you are not within close driving distance of your bug-out location, there is an excellent chance that you won’t even be able to get to it. Potentially, there will be literally thousands…or hundreds of thousands of people attempting to get out of town the same time you are. Roads will quickly become so jammed with vehicles that they will be impassible. Or……governmental agencies will simply close down the roads and not let anyone through. Then you’ll have to go it on foot.

        Another thing that I see mentioned very little, is that there is also an excellent chance that someone else….an uninvited “guest” will already be occupying your location BEFORE you get there. Now YOU will be in the unenviable position of having to take possession of YOUR property from what will most certainly be a hostile squatter. Don’t bother trying to call the police at this point for assistance. They will have other fish to fry. So……if you are not already in your retreat or bug-out location BEFORE SHTF, you may be totally screwed anyway.

        Some may consider these thoughts to be overly negative. Perhaps they are, but I tend to think I’m simply being realistic.

      17. I suspect many of them believe the NIBIRU theory. So the want to be underground during the pass by. its supposed to hurl lots of high speed burning debris from its tail at the earth. cause a collapse of the magnosphere and let high speed solar winds into the earths atmosphere. and cause ocean slop huge waves hundreds of feet high. flood everything below 425 ft elevation. cause the great lakes to pour into the Mississippi valley and wash everything in the delta from the tip of southern ill to New Orleans into the gulf. I researched it Its highly unlikely but plausible. Im very skeptical so far ive seen nothing with my very own eyes that qualifies as irrefutable proof. I actually hope its true and comes soon. It would be something to experience . Quite the adventure! Preferable to the certainty that eventually we are going to have race war ethnic cleansing, economic collapse ect. Like I stated it could happen. But where is the proof? I require more proof than some U tube video and HICKS so called scientist friend. However with all the weird off the wall clatyclismic events we appear to be having you don’t need to be a tin foil hat wearing certified loonie to believe something is up with the planet. If some wealthy folks survive in their own personal bunker that they bought with their own money that’s Ok with me. They haven’t did anything to me. Being wealthy doesn’t make you evil. Now those UN-NWO-Agenda 21 countinuation of government parasites. Who will be holed up im places like Mt. Weather that where paid for by robbing the productive. We need to make certain those places become their toombs. If they think they can reemerge after NIBIRU or nuclear war or something and rule over those who survived on their own. They got another think coming.

      18. You should be aware that 3 or 4 days ago a rail car full of firearms was burglarized and the entire load of weapons was stolen in Illinois. In Tampa Florida a day or two ago someone rammed an suv into a gun store and removed lots of firearms. This is looking more and more like a concerted series of attacks,by the same people who use their cell phones for wilding.
        I expect that there will be some trouble with this many weapons being taken. As anyone else heard of similar firearm thefts in their locations? Something is being planned as these do not look like coincidences.

      19. Don’t we do all the work and the rich hand us there paper in return? And maybe that’s fine until they want more then we can survive on. And that time will come . As it has over and over.

        • If your tired of working for the so called rich. why don’t you take the gamble start a company and pay your employees big wages? Show them how it should be done. You cant build anything or anyone up by tearing someone else down. No poor person ever provided anyone a good paying job.

      20. It’s something all these politicians know is how do go down on someone or with someone.

        HINT HINT

      21. “Our world is becoming more unstable with each passing day, but there is so much apathy among the American people at the moment.

        I just don’t understand it.

        The self-destructive behavior that we are engaging in as a nation is a recipe for national suicide, and the warning signs are all around us, but because disaster has not struck yet most people seem to believe that the warnings that they have been hearing are not true.

        Meanwhile, the elite are preparing extremely hard for an imminent “apocalypse”, and I have a feeling that they are going to end up looking like the smart ones once it is all said and done.”

        I’m thinking that this is fairly easy to understand. Either they don’t know or they don’t care. Most likely, their lives have been unaffected, and for these people, the recession didn’t even materialize. There are a lot of people, whom I think feel like the warning signs are true but the people in power will kick that can down past their generation as well. Many people who likely feel that their life will be over by the time civilization is. There are a number of individuals like myself. Who will network with individuals, and moderately store supplies, as they are not fiscally capable of doing full scale bunkers of solar systems, but will otherwise maintain some sense of normalcy. Basically getting as much out of the status qou as they possibly can -now-. Often times I maintain the opinion that information, knowledge, and resourcefullness are the most important traits in a SHTF situation. What happens when your BOL locations in the direction impact zone, but the city you normally live isn’t? What do you do then? What happens when you run out the BOL and less honest individuals have already taken hold? I know many of you here have the “My fortress and plan are impenetrable”, I would strongly encourage those of you with that perspective to consider all variations and all outcomes, regardless of how improbable you believe it to be. After all, the human brain is incapable of thinking that something bad will happen to itself.

        I’ve read in some comments that many of you have invested in very expensive full scale solar systems. That’s great and i Hope that works out for you. I would encourage you to look into mobile solar systems. Foldable panels with a small 4-12amp battery. Just in case your fortress has been compromised. I would also read and study about the construction of electric generators/motors, AC/DC voltage theory, construction of photo voltaic cells. Solar cells are good but not effecient, you’re batteries aren’t that effecient either, I would study battery design and construction. These things are incredibly important for the long haul, and if you know how to do them, can make the short term much simpler.

        Cheer and Good luck.

        • A.

          Good Post.

        • The only prep you need is Self Reliance & Know How. that and a bit of luck and your golden. If your not healthy and mean and sneaky you are toast.

      22. I don’t believe the statement that prepping is at a low among the general population. Food sales at a low? Right after this election??? Soon you’ll say gun sales have dropped off.

      23. Good!
        than half the job of burying them is already done

      24. ‘luxury’ is not what that picture brings to mind…

      25. The Democrats are freaking out about Trump, just like the conservatives did when Obama was elected. Here’s the main difference I am seeing though; They just riot and complain. They don’t prep. Sure, the upper elite can afford to buy and build bunkers, but the mainstream lib’s are just big babies. Some of my liberal friends are acting like the sky is falling, that we are now doomed with Trump. I asked them if they will buy some preps and they looked at me like I was crazy. They still don’t get it. They will always useless and dependent on other’s for help. Even some of the casual preppers I know have stopped prepping. Just because we have a “changing of the guard” doesn’t mean all of our problems have gone away. I am relieved that Trump got elected, I am tired of being bullied by the left and that they got the smackdown they needed, but I am also realistic and know that we still have hard times ahead.

        • Texas Sweet Tea.

          The majority of us are fed up with all the protests and riots. We just prepare for what is coming our way. Those that build these bunkers should they emerge from them, thinking they will rule over us, have anther thing coming to them. Especially those that used their power to hurt others by greed. Still we will not know till we get there. The time in between then and now eats at us.

          Prep for War, TST.

          Prep Tip.

          Go on google and copy the military hand signals.

          • @Anon, Thanks for the tip about military hand signals:) I have not let up with my prepping, although I have seen others do just that. I do get a chuckle from some of these “elite” preppers though, who have never even spent one night camping. They might have the money to build a fancy bunker, but they have no experience or survival instincts outside their palaces.

      26. Being realistic prudent and fiscally responsible is something many folks simply will never be. And the status of their wealth makes no real difference. That’s why I think the estimate of a 90% die off is being optimistic.

      27. There is nothing that Mister’s Snyder, Johnson or Smith can envision to scare the hell out of us. The Oh Shit’s,
        What The Fuck’s and the Son of a Bit@h’s that will be spoken to describe our first encounters with adversity will be as grains of sand on the beach.
        I envision a Russian T-72 tank rolling up my driveway and leveling its main gun me as I look at it through the window. Is that an Ah Shit or Oh shit moment?

        All in all, if you have been here for awhile and read those authors plus what Mac has written, you have to be well rounded (Thick Skinned) provided the paranoia doesn’t get you.

        • It’s a Tov Shitski moment.

          • Smokey


      28. Remember with underground positions one can fill with water and drown the inhabitants. If the outsiders are desperate enough and belief the bunker is lucrative enough (food and ammo; after the assault will have enough water) they may be able to use a water truck.

        Anyway, that is what the Americans did to the German multi level cement bunkers in the second World War. On occasion I understand they used depth charges, later, so that the bunkers could not be reused…


        • Water destroys things, electronics, many foods, weapons ammo etc turn to rust, or just fail.

          Using water to take a bunker is like burning down a house you want to take shelter in.

      29. So the folks that built these bunkers signed NDAs. Okay, what are the odds, that these NDAs will be honored when the SHTF? I’ll give you a hint, not many!

      30. A hole in the ground is where you bury dead people! There is nothing that cannot be breached nothing!

        • A A,
          A bunker has limited use, they are great during bombings, nuclear war, tornados etc, they are not a long term solution to most other survival scenarios.

          In the real life situations where a bunker is the appropriate solution, your corpse will be found when they open the door and come out after the disaster. You won’t have the time or resources to mount an attack on one, and that is assuming you even know where it is to attack it.

          A key advantage of a bunker is when it is kept secret. Otherwise you are just another looter, avoiding getting shot, looking for scraps. If I had a bunker, I’d leave you some scraps, and you’d go away happy, never having found us.

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