SHTFPlan and Other Alt Media Are Now Being Targeted As “Sophisticated Russian Propaganda Tools”

by | Nov 25, 2016 | Aftermath, Conspiracy Fact and Theory | 277 comments

Do you LOVE America?



    This article was written by Tyler Durden and originally published at Zero Hedge.

    Editor’s Comment: As creepy as it is that the official mouthpieces of the state are attempting to clamp down on the alternative media and doing their damndest to silence dissent, especially online, it is nice that SHTF Plan wasn’t overlooked – as in earlier, more clumsy and incomplete lists.

    On a more serious note, the establishment is running wild with accusations – with nothing substantial to back them up and ridiculously out-of-touch points of view – seemingly because Hillary lost the election, and the powers that be have been put en garde. Prepare for dark times ahead, and watch carefully for the repression… it has already begun. Many sites have been taken down, removed or have been hit with copyright claims in connection with reporting on “pizzagate” allegations related to the leaked Podesta emails. Wikileaks itself has gone dark, rumors abound about Julian Assange’s death, and its contributors are warning NOT to send in whistleblower information, as their chain of custody has been compromised…

    Washington Post Names Drudge, Zero Hedge, & Ron Paul As Anti-Clinton “Sophisticated Russian Propaganda Tools”

    by Tyler Durden

    The desperate flailing of a mainstream-media struggling through the five stages of grief continues as no lesser unbiased foundation of the fourth estate than The Washington Post pushes ahead with its “fake news, blame the Russians” narrative for why their candidate failed so miserably.

    Citing “two teams of independent researchers” (who surely have a substantial libel litigation provision)  who found “Russia’s increasingly sophisticated propaganda machinery… echoed and amplified right-wing sites across the Internet as they portrayed Clinton as a criminal,” the Jeff Bezos-owned website names Drudge, Zero Hedge, and The Ron Paul Institute and countless other outlets among the “useful idiots” that true American patriots should be wary of.

    “The way that this propaganda apparatus supported Trump was equivalent to some massive amount of a media buy,” said the executive director of PropOrNot, who spoke on the condition of anonymity with the Post.

    “It was like Russia was running a super PAC for Trump’s campaign.”

    In the wake of the election, fake news and its spread on social media has come into the spotlight – for our latest thoughts on this topic please see our “thank you” note from last night.

    President Obama denounced the attention garnered by false information last week, saying: “If we are not serious about facts and what’s true and what’s not … if we can’t discriminate between serious arguments and propaganda, then we have problems.” And as The Hill reports, a sophisticated Russian propaganda effort helped fuel the spread of fake news during the election cycle, the Washington Post reported Thursday.

    Two groups of independent researchers found that Russia employed thousands of botnets, human internet “trolls” and networks of Web sites and social media accounts to inject false content into online political talk and amplify posts from right-wing sites. 

    “They want to essentially erode faith in the U.S. government or U.S. government interests,” said Clint Watts, a fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute who co-authored a report about Russian propaganda.

    “This was their standard mode during the Cold War. The problem is that this was hard to do before social media.”

    The Washington Post states – without irony – that there are now scientific studies that show how the Russians influenced the 2016 election

    The flood of “fake news” this election season got support from a sophisticated Russian propaganda campaign that created and spread misleading articles online with the goal of punishing Democrat Hillary Clinton, helping Republican Donald Trump and undermining faith in American democracy, say independent researchers who tracked the operation.

    Russia’s increasingly sophisticated propaganda machinery — including thousands of botnets, teams of paid human “trolls,” and networks of Web sites and social-media accounts — echoed and amplified right-wing sites across the Internet as they portrayed Clinton as a criminal hiding potentially fatal health problems and preparing to hand control of the nation to a shadowy cabal of global financiers. The effort also sought to heighten the appearance of international tensions and promote fear of looming hostilities with nuclear-armed Russia.

    Two teams of independent researchers found that the Russians exploited American-made technology platforms to attack U.S. democracy at a particularly vulnerable moment, as an insurgent candidate harnessed a wide range of grievances to claim the White House. The sophistication of the Russian tactics may complicate efforts by Facebook and Google to crack down on “fake news,” as they have vowed to do after widespread complaints about the problem.

    The report from PropOrNot, provided to the Post, identifies more than 200 websites that routinely pushed Russian propaganda to at least 15 million Americans, and found that false stories pushed on Facebook were viewed more than 213 million times. You may be surprised by some of the sites on the list (it seems even satirical fakes news sites are propagandists too)…

    So in other words, any and every one who is anything but a liberal drone is now a Russian plant? McCarthy would be proud.

    As the “scientists” explain, reporting facts is tantamount to being a “useful idiot.”

    Please note that our criteria are behavioral. That means the characteristics of the propaganda outlets we identify are motivation-agnostic.

    For purposes of this definition it does not matter whether the sites listed here are being knowingly directed and paid by Russian intelligence officers, or whether they even knew they were echoing Russian propaganda at any particular point: If they meet these criteria, they are at the very least acting as bona-fide “useful idiots” of the Russian intelligence services, and are worthy of further scrutiny.

    Which reminded us of @SarcasmRobot’s artist’s impression of what desperation by the establishment, and its pet media, looks like.

    For further color on “Useful Idiots”, Jim Quinn uncovered the following video by a former KGB member Yuri Bezmenov who defected to Canuckistan in 1970. In it he details how the Marxist/Leninist’s planned to conquer the west from within without ever firing a shot. How well do you think their plan is working? At about 7:20 the host, G. Edward Griffin, asks Yuri “What do we do?” (to counter the takeover) and we were more than a little surprised by his response:

    Since the election and even a little before, many have pushed the idea that Trump needs to concentrate on aggressively educating people to the evils that surround us… it appears that is the only way to right back against the tyranny of the fourth estate.

    Finally (and no this is not Friday Humor), this is how the scientists described Zero Hedge.

    ZH is an important transmission belt moving the story from Russian propagandists/information warriors to western news consumers. It happens a lot. This is a particularly egregious example, but the transmission belt runs almost daily. ZH is as much a part of Putin’s information warfare as RT. If you follow closely enough, it’s as plain as the nose on your face.’

    Plain enough, indeed. This amusingly, must read (we urge readers to read it on their own to see what a disinformation attempt looks like) “analysis” – by a website that is itself anonymous mind you – then concludes with the following:

    ZeroHedge qualifies as “dark gray” propaganda, systematically deceiving its civilian audiences for foreign political gain.

    Articles from ZeroHedge are frequently reposted by other sites, but appear on ZeroHedge first — the site’s authors are driving and shaping the stories, not merely reacting to them. An analysis of web traffic patterns and linking backs this up: ZeroHedge has a prominent place within the network of pro-Russia news and propaganda outlets.

    We at PropOrNot rate it: Five Shadies.

    Whether intended or not, this libel-worthy drivel – we can say that comfortably because, well, there is no Russian propaganda “masterminding” this site, unless criticizing the US government now equates with that – has already attacted the attention of the likes of Glenn Greenwald and many others.

    While this latest spin on the so-called “narrative” will certainly backfire, and accelerate the demise of the mainstream media’s efforts to maintain credibility and control of the American mindset – which it painfully lost with their lies during the presidential campaign – not to mention “eyeballs” and ad revenue, we remain fascinated by the so called “liberal left’s” relentless charges that Trump will unleash a massive censorship assault on the “free press” when the “free press” itself is doing everything in its power to squash dissenting voices. To which all we can add is that it is a good thing that said “power” is declining with every passing day.

    This article was written by Tyler Durden and originally published at Zero Hedge.


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      1. Hey all:

        Transition 2017; The Donald’s youtube channel name. Good bye MSM and all their presstitutes.

        Thanks Mac for this forum of learning.

        Thanks to all posters. Mac brings the meat, we bring the teeth.

        …diligent and determined…..BA.

        • Well I do have a few Russian made weapons and a shitload of Russian made ammo.

          • Menzo, my weapons and ammo are American but will still get the job done. One more step closer to a shooting war.

            • I did not say all my shit was Russian.

              • Menzo, I don’t have anything against Russian weapons. Whenever the UN boys appear on the streets, I’ll be grabbing all the AKs, extra mags, and other gear I can get. When the lead starts flying, there’s gonna be shit everywhere on the ground waiting to be picked up by someone. It won’t hurt to get the other guy’s stuff to supplement your own

                • I have a AK47 picked up in the forests of VietNam. Russian model. Still have it and it is still in primo working condition. Amazing
                  Can stop a rampaging Rhino. (well – or so I have been told. Never had a Rhino charge me but I know that it does stop a man and make him walk backward a few steps before dropping.

                  • Bill,
                    Did you mean rampaging RINO by any chance? With the GOP establishment raging against Trump I thought you might have a typo there.

                    • Mac,
                      Congrats to both you and Tess for making “the list”. That says much about how effective you are.

                      On the other hand, the “not so great” James Rawles at survivalblog didn’t make the list. All of his use of offshore servers, publishing his IP address in case his site is taken down seems to be nothing more than an image of self importance.

                    • CONGRATULATIONS SHTFplan – YOU MADE THE LIST!

                  • Bill you are going to have RAMPAGING RHINOS called the ATFE if you do not have the proper paperwork.

                    With all do respects I can not understand for the life of me why people like you advertise what you have on a open net unless you are a FED yourself trying to snag someone.

                    • I was thinking the same thing ESE on advertising. What ever happened to OPSEC? Peace

                  • That Rhino might get you before he dies, but the poachers in Africa just dump a magazine or two from their AK-74s into the Rhino or Elephant and take the horns and ivory.

                    They don’t care if the animal dies right away or not.

                  • All these BUTTHURT Hillary kids need to quit crying and get their life together. Nothing is going to change for them. They just wanted more of that socialist puke Obama was pushing. The Arsenal AK in 5.56×45 is a wicked little honey. Stay Sharp. Watch your sixx. Train Hard Fight Easy.

                • UpDate – India’s War on Cash. 60% tax now gonna be placed on bank deposits of unexplainable cash. Bills larger than a comparable US $20 Bill are now banned in India.

                  Cash Crackdown Escalates: India May Impose 60% Tax On “Unaccounted” Deposits, Curbs On Gold Holdings
                  11-26-2016 • by Tyler Durden
                  As reported yesterday, India’s unexpected crackdown on “black money” which saw the elimination of the old high denomination bills, is not going well, not only because former PM Manmohan Singh slammed the idea warning it would cut as much as 2% from the GDP of the world’s fastest growing economy, but because so far the voluntary participation in the “exchange” of old for new notes ahead of today’s exchange suspension (deposits of old cash may still take place until December 31) has been far below expectations.

                  As a result, the government is taking even more aggressive steps to part savers with their allegedly “laundered” cash, and as the Indian Express reports, Mody’s cabinet discussed amending laws to levy close to 60% income tax on unaccounted deposits in banks above a threshold post demonetisation of high-denomination currency notes. “The move comes amid banks reporting over Rs 21,000 crore being deposited in zero-balance Jan Dhan accounts in two weeks after the 500 and 1,000 rupee notes were banned, which authorities apprehend may be the laundered black money.”

                  ht tp://

                  **Those people here in the States that live on all cash, you are going to be screwed. Cause this is coming here also.

                • Braveheart, I had some free time this morning, so I thought I’d followup on Mises.

                  “…[T]he Protestant Church still tries to delude itself [that the Bible is relevant to theology].… [The Gospels] offer no rules of life except practical ones.… Jesus offers no rules of earthly action and struggle; his [sic] Kingdom is not of this world…” and then in the same breath Mises contradicts himself, “Such rules of conduct as he [sic] gives are valid for only the short interval of time which has still to be lived while waiting for the great things to come.” Ignoring the fishermen and The Carpenter Himself, Mises opines, “The primitive Christians do not produce, labour, or gather anything at all.” Ignoring the Beatitudes, the Two Greatest Commandments, and Luke 6:32-36, Mises pronounces, “The historical Christ and his [sic] teachings are quite indifferent to all social considerations.… The expectation of God’s own reorganization when the time came and the exclusive transfer of all action and thought to the future Kingdom of God, made Jesus’s teaching utterly negative. He rejects everything that exists without offering anything to replace it. He arrives at dissolving all existing social ties.… Hence his [sic] passionate attack upon everything that exists.… [T]he new order [of Christianity] demands therefore from its adherents no system of ethics, no particular conduct in any positive direction.… The clearest modern parallel to the attitude of complete negation of primitive Christianity is Bolshevism.… Jesus’s teaching in this respect…is merely negation…His teachings had no moral application to life on earth.…”

                  A dozen papal encyclicals have damned Communism in all its manifestations. One salient and succinct example: Pope Pius XI taught that socialism is “irreconcilable with true Christianity.…no one can be at the same time a good Catholic and a true socialist.” Pope Pius XI, Quadragesimo Anno, §120

                  Mises’ penchant for turning white into black and black into white is, like Mises himself, quintessentially Jewish. There is plenty more such upside down rubbish, but I will leave the anti-Christian Mises to your own reading and analysis.

                  Ludwig von Mises and J. Kahane (translator), Socialism: An Economic and Sociological Analysis, Part IV, Chapter III, “Christianity and Socialism.” New Haven: Yale University Press, 1951. pp 413-416

                • If I’m working for the Russians: I want my money!

            • First of all America is not at war with Russia, Just the Neocons and the Zionist Democraps who love war, conflict and their puppet dictator puppets in place, all to make big profits off the backs of little people. So we ain’t buying this Soros funded Propaganda crap.

              When we look for facts and all that pops up is RT or Sputnik news which usually unravels the West War mongers plot. Like false flag shooting down the MH-17 plane that was actually shot down by Israeli air to air Python missiles all to blame Russia, then after, Russia pulls out the Satellite imaging reflecting the wests and NATO, and Israelis nasty plot actually doing the shooting. Oh the embarrassment of the west. So where is the accountability of that.

              Yep it was Russia’s satellites that uncovered the Israeli’s buying stolen oil from Syria by the (CIA’s ISIS) out of Turkey. Yep just plain propaganda, and those oil trucks in route just plain imaginary, as well as the ships going from port to port Turkey to Israel eh. Theft!!!

              Well the swamp is draining and just watch those who squirm and complain the most, That’s the enemy folks. The Anti-Truther’s. Oh and Chancelor Merkle comes out and blames Russia Propaganda as she lets her entire nation be infiltrated by the Filthy Muslim Refugees aka ISIL. That was Russia’s fault too.

              Get your rope ready and a good hanging tree. These scoundrels days are numbered. Do not let them procreate.

              Zeus- The Real God in the sky who sees all and here to report.

              • As there is no God in Heaven, you literally have no basis for truth over lies, or good over evil, other than personal preference. There IS no good or bad in your atheist world, for the *fact* is, that whatever is, is right – ***by definition***

                Squirm all you want trying to avoid the logical conclusions of your presuppositions, but you cannot escape the logical box your own worldview has placed you in. If there are no absolutes, you are only in constructs of your own making. You might as well spill a carton of milk and expect it to create a map of London. Worse, if the world is absurd, *we could never have found OUT that it was absurd.

                All you have is existentialism, which is that the world is absurd, but let’s impose meaning on it anyway. No answer to why people like Camus felt we NEED to do that (which is big hint, BTW), but whatever.

                I repeat: an advanced course in logic will prove to you that you have ZERO basis for making any moral judgment about swamps, who should be hung or not in the world, or anything else.

                The truth is that while I laud your concern over right and wrong above, **your comments about ethics are only DERIVATIVE.*** I am truly staggered that you cannot understand that in your world, there CAN be no right or wrong. Worse, even there were, it would have no meaning.

                Truth is, your atheism is just another religion, which is defined as *anything* that tells us where we came from (for you, hydrogen?; the Big Band… however that started), why we are here (if there is no God, I assume just to grab pleasure? Recall that ethics is just your *personal preference*), and where we are going (in your case, to oblivion, meaning everything – a baby’s smile, your wedding day, a magnificent sunset – mean nothing).

                My comment, put respectfully, is that you question your questions. But be careful, as former atheist CS Lewis said, of what you read!! An atheist must be VERY careful in his reading, lest he come across something that contradicts him (in contrast, my whole eight years at university was an almost daily review of the atheists’ arguments).

                • And you did not provide an inch of facts to back your counter claim. Just babble. And name calling Atheist which I am not. Wrong again “No Proof Test.” So you fail college.

                  • I understand your insult, Zeus, but I do not understand your point. This is precisely the problem. There are no “facts” available (e.g., water freezes at 32F) to be cited; rather, it is syllogistic logic. I trust you know what that is?

                    Atheist is not used as a derogatory term. But perhaps you, then, care to tell us precisely what you are, as you certainly made no bones about insulting others here about belief: To wit (and to cite a fact)

                    **Religion will preach and tell you how to think. Its a dismal trap and hard to get out of, because its mostly a set of traditions over generations. Demand from your church accountability and proof of all the BS they preach. Like Everlasting Life. The proof is, you will all die. Nobody is ever saved for endless life. So don’t spend your life filling your brain with useless nonsense.**

                    So clarify for us: is faith “useless nonsense,” or is it just human religion? Is their true faith? Is there indeed a God, or is it that “nobody is ever saved for endless life,” which would read by most readers as “we die and are eaten by worms.” Perhaps there is a deistic God? Brahma? Your writing is utterly unclear.

                    And how did you, yourself, “learn to think?: Were you a feral child? Even then, there, you or I would pick up wolf traditions. What language do you speak? Or did you make up your own, on your own, outside of the traditions embodied in your language (I would bring up the Inuit (don’t call them Eskimos!) myth about different categories for snow, but that is actually not true.

                    So, I await your answer. But might I politely ask that you dispense with the insults (e.g., “you fail”) and post some fact. As I say, I understand your insults; I also understand you appear angry at something for some reason. But your actual points certainly don’t seem sequitur to me.

                    Thank you.

                    • Thx for the heads up six pack

                    • Excellent, 6Pak!!

                      Time to go on the offensive with these guys!!

              • Fidel Castro Dead t 90 years Old. In reading, Castro was not all that Bad. Get this:

                Former Cuban leader Fidel Castro, whose 49-year rule was marked by an anti-Israel stance to match his deep antagonism to the United States and the west, is dead at age 90.

                His brother and successor since he stepped back from power in 2008, President Raul Castro, announced his death late Friday evening.

                Under the Castros Jews in Cuba were extended religious freedoms and receive special rations from the government for kosher meat, although the community, like much of the island nation, remains fairly impoverished.

                Castro, who seized power in 1959, set his country firmly against the Jewish state.

                In 1966, he opened guerrilla training camps for Palestinians, beginning a lifelong relationship with the Palestinians and their late leader, Yasser Arafat. Speaking to the First Party Congress of the Cuban Communist Party in 1975, two years after breaking off diplomatic relations with Israel and assisting the Syrians in the 1973 Yom Kippur War against Israel, Castro declared that “Yasser Arafat is a man we deeply love and admire and to whom we have always shown our solidarity.”

                Cuba co-sponsored a 1975 United Nations resolution equating Zionism with racism. In 1991, Cuba voted against a U.N. resolution revoking the Zionism-equals-racism resolution. At the first U.N. World Conference Against Racism in Durban, South Africa, in 2001, Castro called on delegates to “put an end to the ongoing genocide against the Palestinian people” by Israel.

                The Cuban government’s official newspaper, the Communist Party’s Granma, consistently has maintained an anti-Israel editorial stance.

                There are currently fewer than 1,000 Jews living in Cuba, down from about 30,000 in the 1950s.
                ht tp://

                **Looks like Ol’ Fidel understood the Parasite that invades and destroys Nations, its people and cultures. Oh how right he was.

                And probably why Castro was the other Boogie Man invented by the Zionist Western Government to Hate.

                • Zeus, I’m busting your bubble on Castro. My wife was from Cuba and lost half of her family to Castro’s butchers. Castro aligned himself with the USSR after the trade embargo was imposed and they subsidized Cuba’s economy for 3 decades until they collapsed in 1991. After the subsidies ended, Castro had to reopen the economy to foreign investment. That was the only way his SOVIET-STYLE ECONOMY could be kept afloat and he could stay in power. An estimated 200000 Cubans have died at the regime’s hands over 50+ years of tyrannical rule and millions gone into exile. The Cuban people still suffer horribly while the ‘top dogs’ live like kings. Castro is one less commie POS living and breathing. He’s already in hell right now which is what he deserves. The Castro regime’s days are numbered. I predict Raul will be next. changes are coming to Cuba. You need to get away from commie propaganda.

                  • Cuba does have a 93% literacy rate which is above that of the US. As far a poverty its rampant in Central and South America. Castor is no saint, neither was his predecessor Batastia. If Batesta was, Castro wouldn’t have got a foot hold.

                    The greatest recruiter the communists have ever had is the exploitive capitalist. If they all took a lesson from Henry Ford “If my workers can’t buy my cars then who can” communists would have been out of work.

                    • Kevin2, the one thing you’re missing is that when Castro took over he had the entire curriculum changed in all of the Cuban schools and brought them under centralized control. He seized all of the Catholic Church’s property, including their schools, and shut them down. I’ve always found it ironic that the Castro brothers came from a wealthy Catholic family and had every advantage when they were young, including attending PRIVATE CATHOLIC SCHOOLS. Cuba has the highest literacy rate of any COMMUNIST nation in the world.

                    • Source CIA World Fact Book:

                      Correction Cuba has a literacy rate of 99.8%. The infant mortality rate is 4.5 per 1000. The infant mortality rate in in the US is 5.3 per 1000. I’ll go out on a limb and say that the literacy rate in Cuba is as high as the US; maybe higher. To compare with a similar country the literacy rate in Honduras 81% and the infant mortality is 22 per 1000. Haiti is 60% and 48 per 1000.

                      They might not have freedom but compared to their peers Cuba is way ahead.

                • Staggering. If Castro was anything like Che, here are some quotes from the latter:

                  Re. blacks, Che declared, “the Negro is indolent and spends his money on frivolities and drink, whereas the European is forward-looking, organized and intelligent.” Gee, how nice of your Cubans (Che was actually from Argentina, of course).

                  “ My nostrils dilate while savoring the acrid odor of gunpowder and blood. Crazy with fury I will stain my rifle red while slaughtering and that fall into my hands! With the deaths of my enemies I prepare my being for the sacred fight and join the triumphant proletariat with a bestial how!” (Gee, where were the gun control freaks when you needed them!)

                  One quote from Che that I can’t find, but remember well, was Che talking about the campesinos who supported him in the revolution in South America. But of course he said, once we win, “they will have to be liquidated.” Unfortunately, they weren’t politically correct enough, and of course this lesson is lost on the Mikey Moores, Babs Streisands, Sean Penns, etc. They needn’t wonder what would happen to them if the communists – or their beloved Islamofascists – took over. (BTW, Castro and his crew hated homosexuals, too).

                  An example of one 17 year old boy whom Che murdered: Rigoberto Hernandez. He was a janitor in a high school in Havana, retarded, and the only son of a single mother, who was accused of planting bombs by the CIA. Fontova writes how “Che’s soldiers dragged him from his cell in La Cabana, jerked his head back to gag him, and started dragging him to the stake.” He pled his innocence all the way, muffled as it was through the gag. “His struggles whiel being gagged and bound to the stake were also awkward… “Fuego” and the firing squad volley shattered Rigo’s little bent body as he moaned and struggled awkwardly against his bonds, blindfolded and gagged.” Of course, as Che told his courts “judiciary evidence is an archaic bourgeois detail.” Women were also his victims, tho in this case, I’m sure the feminists would heartily approve. Juana Diaz was executed Christmas Eve, 1961, for not adhering to Castro’s Stalinist ways. She was six months pregnant at the time.

                  Hatred was constant in Che’s writings. Che wrote of “Hatred as an element of struggle”; hatred that is intransigent”; hatred so violent that it propels a human being beyond his natural limitations, making him a violent and cold blooded killing machine.” In fact, in 1961, he wrote that he craved “millions of atomic victims” in America (possibly to include a bunch of young Robert Redford types, but they don’t get it). Here are Che’s own words from 1961: “Against those hyenas there is no option but extermination. We will bring the war to the imperialist enemies’ very home to his places of work and recreation. The imperialist enemy must feel like a hunted animal (BTW, where’s the outrage from PETA and Greenpeace over this statement?? Thus, we’ll destroy him! We must keep our hatred against them (the US) alive and fan it to paroxysms!” Wow…. The one time just maybe those stupid leftist hate crime laws might have been of use!!

                  Finally, “brave Che,” when faced with armed soldiers tracking him in Bolivia on Oct. 8, 1967 dropped a fully loaded weapon and reportedly whimpered “Don’t shoot! I’m Che! I’m worth more to you alive than dead!”

                  Che was an evil man, and was the man who was his mentor and political supporter, Fidel. And your approval of him is truly staggering.

                  • TEST, thanks for those quotes from Che. Fidel is having a reunion in hell with Che, Hugo Chavez, and other commies as we speak. I don’t want to have disputes with anyone here, but I’m not capable of saying anything good or positive about Castro. My wife lost half of her family to Castro’s butchers and was the last of the survivors of her family to leave the island in 1967. She only opened up to me about the horrors she and the family went though on the second day of our honeymoon in 1976. When she finished her story, she totally broke down and I just held onto her for what seemed like eternity. I also broke down in solidarity with her. I lived in the Miami exile community for 7 years under the shadow of all that. I got to know a lot of exiles who shared similar stories with me about what they went through under Castro. I even got to know some of the Bay Of Pigs veterans. They are better Americans than the people I work with. TEST, the people here who are making positive statements about Castro just have no clue. I won’t insult them but I will say they have been seriously misled about Castro and I’ll stand by my statements regardless.

              • Just got my tree trimmed , so that the lowest branches are high enough to keep their toes off the ground

            • All these BUTTHURT Hillry kids need to get on with there life. Nothing is going to change for them. All they wanted was alot more of the same puke that Obama was pushing, once you become a’dick’ted to radical lib/comm ideals its hard to dump. And the Arsenal AK in 5.56×45 is one wicked little honey. Stay sharp. Watch your sixx. Train hard fight easy.

          • Question for all the AR-15 owners.

            I have had a problem with the russian steel cased ammo. After the AR-15 gets hot from firing multiple round the steel cased ammo gets jammed in the chamber.

            Happens on all my ar-15s. Does not happen with brass ammo.

            Anybody else have this problem?

            • JS

              Bullets have lacquer sealant. Also the is a powder coat. Fouls the chamber.

            • Get yourself a piston ar10 and you won’t have that problem.
              Molon labe

              • +1

            • As was stated, its the laquer, best use US manufactured ammo, LC stamp

              • Chinese copperwash steelcore No problems.

                • There are so many different theories.Some say the copper coating gets rubbed off before it exits the barrel. Some say steel expands different and carbons. The chamber. . I tell people to watch a war movie and decide what you would want in that situation. I bet 99 % of the time you would want a shotgun.? You will be too sick and tired to aim. They will be so close you will need max stoping power.. The disadvantages will be recoil . You might be too sick from bad water or lack of food to handle it.. Maybe low recoil buckshot or 20 gauge. You won’t be on the range with a bench rest. You won’t be all perky and fine . You will be sick and tired and suffering from starvation. Try to aim under those conditions?Bad water cold lack of sleep. And no bench rest . And candy coated corn. We have been so spoiled . We have lost track with what we will face..we don’t train under true conditions.we will get a big wake up call. Can you pump a shotgun after 3 days without food ? Get an auto shotgun. So you can be sloppy. Precision is only for those with a full stomach. And that will probably not happen much..

                  • So true, concerning a Shotgun. Nothing better for close Combat. I was always glad to have mine in ‘Nam’ !
                    You will be too stressed to take precious time to aim.
                    I still prefer a Pump Action. Lock & Load !

                    • Kevlar.

                  • Foreign steel case ammo is not the best for AR-15’s. Laquer builds up and can cause over pressure in the chamber. Over pressure can cause a dangerous situation. Possible to even explode.

                  • Good post, LW

                • Anon,
                  I have a stash of copper washed ChiCom 7.62X39 in Sardine cans.
                  Date coded 1967. Works good but a little smokey. Keep
                  in mind that stuff is corrosive. My 7.62X39 guns have
                  Chrome bores, but plays hell on the piston tubes,
                  if you don’t get right on it, so spend some
                  time with Hoppes #9.

                  • can’t get more than a few sentences out before the site locks up.

            • John,

              Get a POF415 upper and you will no longer have this issue.

            • The AR-15 chamber is of tighter tolerances than the ComBloc weapons, and the ammo is dirty, fouls up your AR gas system. Just stop using the lacquer-cased ammo, you’ll have no problem.

              Buy a few thousand .223 cases and reload. You’ll get good quality ammo for the price of a box of the ComBloc stuff.

            • Steel case ammo in a AR-15? Do you feed your dog cheap dog food?

              • Thats the way i think,,,,
                One reason i prefer to load my own,
                Not exactly a gunfighter though if ya know what i mean

            • If you’ve been using the older laquer coated Wolf Ammo along with a few others who coated with laquer, your shells could be sticking or slowing up ejection after heating up and the laquer becoming sticky. Most of the Russian brands are still coating but using a different sealant now.

            • John
              If you HAVE to run that steel ammo
              Than keep the AR running wet with rem oil
              If it gets dry ( no lube)
              It will bite and jam
              Just my experience

            • Is the weapon is chambered in .223 or NATO 5.56. If both, .223 may perform better.

              You usually can’t go wrong with green tip 5.56.

              I prefer brass, it can be reloaded, you never know when the next ammo shortage will appear.

            • Never shoot steel cased ammo through an AR-15. For many reasons, stay with brass. For one, steel rims wear down extractors quickly. AKs are designed for steel, ARs are not.

          • Now we know why they want to control the Internet kill switch so bad. Or give it away.

            They lost their grip on the narrative which is usually a big lie. Way too many eyes and ears out there.

            The MSM will die, and News will be more generated by independent reporters on the ground giving objective filming footage and description as events unfold across the Globe in real time. The News stations will either embrace the change or go out of business as these reporters like Dahboo77 on Youtube give their take with loads of more real investigation facts unraveling the truth than the MSM sack of daily lies. This explains why the MSM is loosing viewership. Americans and the world crave facts and truth. Why pay for Cable LIE TV.

            Check out TruthTV on Youtube also.

            The most honest 3 minutes of television, EVER…

            • Good riddance to the leftist lamestream media.

              One caveat: To replace it, we MUST be extremely strict verifying the data we post. People may disagree with it, but if we at least put **source** information, that is a start. Otherwise we can and will be dismissed, perhaps rightfully so.

              And relative to these idiot elite, I was speaking to someone who went to Harvard, who explicitly told me he did not go there for the education – which was no better than elsewhere – but rather for the ***contacts*** he made there.

              I have an IQ (for what that is worth) of 140. That puts me in the 99th percentile. I have two graduate degrees, Univ. of Illinois and Univ. of British Columbia. I have a gaggle of technical certs. I don’t say this to boast (you folks don’t know me, and will never know my real name, so who cares); rather, I say this to note that the so called “elite” are not the elite by intellectual acumen, or even education. Rather, they are the elite the same reason the royalty of Europe was “elite” in the past: history, tradition, contacts, etc. Well, WHO CARES. And more to the point, all that tradition, contacts, history etc. meant ZILCH when they – as Victor Hugo pointed out – met a time where “there is nothing so strong as an idea whose time has come” (might not be an exact quote, but you get the idea).

              The point is, the self-proclaimed elite are no more elite than King Louis XVI. And no, I am NOT advocating violence – that is the purview of the left (the British royal lines are another example). I’m only stating that the elite do not remain elite if their abilities don’t merit that. And to be honest, with total US unfunded liabilities now $222 T, according to Dr. Lawrence Kotlikoff of Boston Univ. (google name for verification), or perhaps we can use the world debt from the IMF of $152 T (see ) I submit to you that these people are simply **not that bright***.

              Keynesianism has failed. But like Louis the XVIth, as Talleyrand said, the ignorant elite “have learned nothing, and they have forgotten nothing.”

              The lying NY Slimes – paper of Walter “I don’t see no stinking, starving kulaks in Stalin’s Urkraine” Duranty, paper of fiction writer Jayson Blair, paper of record citing Lincoln Steffens’ “I have seen the future (Stalin’s USSR) and it works” horse manure, or the idiot Washington Post, with that doofus Mooney (sp?) daily regurgitating all the faux global warming BIG GREEN MONEY propaganda, or similar news organs are irrelevant to me, other than to check the sports scores.

              Just a note for the ether. Maybe no one will ever read this, but at least it has been said, even if it is a tree falling in the forest with no one to hear.

              • In a letter to John Adams, Thomas Jefferson wrote “I agree with you that there is a natural aristocracy among men. The grounds of this are virtue and talents….The natural aristocracy I consider as the most precious gift of nature for the instruction, the trusts and government of society….May we not even say that the government is the best which provides most effectually for a pure selection of these natural aristoi into the offices of government? The artificial aristocracy is a mischievous ingredient in government and provision should be made to prevent its ascendency.”

              • Test, we read you loud and clear and thanks for all your posts.

              • Test/Roberts, Your pretentious puffery makes necessary those constant reminders of how thankful we should be for your patrolling the content here. You are, as the saying goes, a legend in your own mind.

            • This truly is the best three minutes of television ever, and of course the cowards of collapsing America cannot accept it.

          • Say Menzo; back in my day we’d see a lot of RU ammo go by from time to time, and most all of them always had ‘steel’ bullets (hard on the barrel but penetration is incredible).

            Now you need a Kalashnikov of the same ‘mm’ to go with? heheh…

            • The more incredible the penetration the better with what we will soon face, heheh.

          • Parting gift of Obama.
            WW III
            Obama determined to INTENTIONALLY destroy America.

            Here we go:
            w w w—_Provoking_War_with_Russia/55461/0/38/38/Y/M.html

            Hillary-Obama-Soros crime family are Absolutely obsessed with starting war with Russia. ARREST them ALL.
            Hillary-Obama are Treasonous Criminals. They are INSANE.

            Have these Treasonous Fools just started Nuclear WW III.

            • OWWR

              Just have to go with the flow. Maybe Hillary will be back soon after the vote count.

              • War with Russia. Nuclear WW III because of NWO-UN-Banker Hillary-Obama psychopaths if Hillary scams into office. Traitor Castro-Mao comrad Obama still trying to start a Nuclear war before he leaves.

                Russia plays chess.
                While TRAITOR Obama plays checkers.
                Russia will wait out Obama.

                Obama will go down in history as the absolute worse president Amerikka has ever had. All of his “change” will be negated and undone. Obama is nothing. Will be remembered as nothing. Clinton criminals will soon be forgotten. Into obscurity.

                If Hillary tries to scam the election.
                If electoral college does not do their duty to vote as the American people have willed.

                Result: Street to street. House to house urban warfare in the streets of America.
                Snipers around every corner.

                UN-China? called in at call of Hillary. Then all out war because many of American military personnel will defend Donald J. trump as President against Hillary UN. President Trump was elected by Americans. Not by fraud, not by stuffed ballot boxes, not by illegal aliens, not by bussed in state to state illegal illegible “voters”, not by dead people voting such as in Chicago and other places.

                Americans will stand by Trump. Hillary Fraud will not be allowed.
                Many US military will stand by-with-fight for, Trump.
                There will be TRAITORS blood flowing rivers if Hillary commits fraud.

                Donald J Trump is elected President of United States of America.
                Accept that and live in peace. Also NO nuclear war with Russia.
                President Trump is Not war monger psycho like Hillary-Obama.

                Try Hillary electoral-vote fraud and death will be end result.
                Obvious to anyone watching situation.

        • “They want to essentially erode faith in the U.S. government or U.S. government interests … ”

          The US Government in COLLUSION with the Lame Stream Media has done more to erode the faith of the American People in their LAWLESS government than any number of Alt Media websites.

          Americans wouldn’t flock to Alt Media if they were getting truthful, genuine, news coverage from Mainstream Media. “You can foll some of the people some of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all over the time”.

          There propaganda ins’t working and they are looking for someone, anyone, to blame for their Anti-American Agenda failures, so its gotta be Putin’s fault !!! LMFAO !!! 🙂

          • Spelling errors MUST reflect Mac tampering with my posts. 🙂

            • Well I hope Mac at least got paid off with some good Russian vodka for his efforts, on your post, and for all the work he’s done keeping us “uninformed “…..

              • Still waiting for the case of canned borscht Vlad promised me !

                • Im sure its on the same boat as the one all of the pretty Russian girls they promised the rest of us if we help spread the fake news

                • Being in the list is a Badge of Honor. If you did not make the list. You aint trying hard enough, to tell the truth.

                  • A common theme on all those sites that made the black list. They virtually all allow open discussion by nearly anyone on the web.

                    Liberal sites that allow public posts, one by one have blacklisted me, and I gotta say I rarely attack anyone personally nor use foul language. I can only assume my political positions are what got me banned.

                    Either that or it’s all the talking in code we do……
                    The dog has come home, repeate the dog has come home. Granny burned the cookies, repeat granny burned the cookies! Ok Vladimir that will be $7.95, repeat Vladimir that will be $7.95……

                    • The chair is against the wall.
                      John has a long mustache.

                  • I wanted to add, I looked through the entire list of deplorable news and information web sites and damn if none are Islamic, not one. With the hundreds of sites that spread Jihad and mix it with lies propaganda and disinformation, you’d think the studious creator of the sites the left wants censored, could have found one, but not one is a radical jihadist site.

            • TOO FUNNY Durango…lol. (Mac owes ya one ya know). 🙂

              This is all sooooo f*cked up! We have a non-American government fighting to destroy America in the final days remaining, and so it is safe to assume The Mainstream Media is in ‘cahoots’ with the media, (brain-washing at all levels of the sciences used to do it successfully …mostly).

              So, when we reach this point of understanding, with MORE than enough clarity to see all that these “powers that be” consist of. Money, egos, better-than-you attitudes. NOW we are also learning the sons-a-bitches are truly at the fucking forefront of the earth’s largest pedophile “ring” on the planet! WTF? Just HOW MANY NATIONS are involved in this (more than outrageous) act of truly “deplorable” people. (10’s of thousands of them, all running government, educational facilities), and selling YOUR little girl into prostitution while young then converted to “body organs for sale” prisoner …until someone places an order that matches her bloodtype).

              Should the bastards even TRY to ‘cut’ Alt-Media then it would only mean we have all the more reason to take them down hard – – or is this Pizz@Gate bullshit still not enough to get you to make Obama happy so that he can invoke, or try to invoke, Martial Law?

              First they remove God from America. Then the flag. Then all monuments. Burn several churches while starting Mosques (quietly) everywhere you can’t see.

              We The People are under the duress of a government that is not in the least bit patriotic to The United States of America. NOTHING “within the law” or outside of the law is now impossible, because none of The Rules of Law are being adhered to. (Ask the lady who just had her arm blown off about not being armed with LEOs with a bad attitude being around, defending BIG OIL and defending “The Government …NOT “We The People.”

              I believe before all such sites are torn down everyone should start waking the fuck up and realize we are being attacked from both within and without, and the time to start fighting back actually began quite some time ago …but NOW we are getting into some very serious, life-altering bullshit that isn’t meant to be in our favor.

              Since they didn’t hesitate on 911 to kill a great many, what do you suppose a non-American president might allow to happen to “his” country given their obvious desperation of Hillary losing?

              I feel somewhat like the ‘water-defenders’ must have trapped on a bridge with a water-cannon at both ends. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

              Who was it that just said; “You don’t have enough ammo” may have a point…

              • Oh theres enough ammo, its more a matter of will everybody get rolling before its too late, have a feeling it will just be a clusterfook, its a shame, rather die fighting than just go along because thats what i was told to do,,, perhaps stupid on my part but im tired of this

                • Nailbanger, I’ve got a lot of ammo but still not enough, LOL. I’m still stacking and keeping all my options open. I’ve NEVER benefited from ‘going along to get along’ but other people with bad intentions toward damn sure have. I’ll also end up fighting and possibly dying in the process. I’m also tired of all this.

        • People here are Russian propagandists? Not nyet but hell nyet!

          • Yea Oakie,
            How long we all been coming around here?
            Yall longer than me, but for at least a few years,,,,
            Propagandist my ass, more like good ole boys bein good ole boys,

        • Breaking News! Fidel is Dead!! US Democrat Party Mourns. Obama Orders Flags At Half Staff. Dems Say They Have No American Flags To Lower. CNN Anchors To Dress In Black For Week. NFL’s Keapernick Too Shocked To Play, Will Sit On Sidelines….

        • Yes, BA, that is the key to stopping the darkness: not violence, but via education and communication. The elite know that, which is why they are focused on stopping this venue. If they can capture the vehicle of information dissemination, we will have a whole nation of what you see at universities today – gullible, rhinestone Marxist sheeple who are like those people in the Orwell movies.

          The bad guys have the head start. They have all the big “guns” of this battle (news channels, co-opted Hollwierd, big money/vile George S, etc.) “All” we have is truth, justice and reason on our side. Oh, and did I mention God? (As in That Hideous Strength, by CS Lewis, these “elite” know not what they are toying with… if there is a God – and there is – they are in deep do-do). Churchill talked about a lie being able to go around the world before the truth can get her shoes on (her? Oooops, meant “ze!” Don’t want the NYC speech fascists to come down on me if this is read there).

          We WILL win. What we face today is literally the revival of fascism (the merger of the socialist state + co-opted big business). And why will we win? BECAUSE FASCISM IN ALL ITS FORMS IS ANTI-HUMAN, OR MIGHT I SAY “A-HUMAN.” IT ALSO DOES NOT UNDERSTAND HUMAN ACTION (cf. Ludwig von Mises book on the topic, or see website dedicated to his work, Same reason the USSR – the socialist cousin to the Nazis – fell.

        • Just to get ‘a thought I had’ out into the open, consider the possibility that TPTB are “heavily” pushing America into “such heated conflict” (it seems every day the ante is being raised by Democrats), and now that HITLERY herself has joined the “Recount Tea Party” – it’s rather obvious they are working on a whole new “Plan B”, and perhaps we are part of it?

          Look at what would NOT happen if all of us were suddenly, within 30 days or before Jan 20th, were to lose all ways of communicating (via these sites). *This is assuming there isn’t another that we could all join as a backup then “speak in code” (if even needed).

          Anyway, if preppers are prevented from sharing data or given a very bad name and dispensed with (online that is), then would there be any question as to why it was being done? If I were Hillary, I would go after all the “bad-mouthing” sites and “street-clean” of my name, and then in her usual manner face The United States and lie her ass off until it’s seated in The WH, and THEN she’ll start in on us “preppers.” (Read: Big War that ONLY THE PREPPERS COULD END – – when we damn well feel like it).

          Moving the Internet ICAAN was just Obama’s 1st move. Now, in order to get things done, they THINK they can just “cut us off” and like Minions (mindless) we’ll run in circles until 2030 screaming omg, omg, omg before we take any counter-steps! (It would not surprise me “what they think” being the lot of them are ‘screwed in the head child molesters’ (presently running scared as the entire fucking world is now on their ass, and God help them when the parents of these kids are brought back to their families.

          Seems to be appearing that the governments of the world have their hands deeply into the most shameful thing I can think of, CP. Do these government employees feel they are so ‘above the law’, just as Hillary is, that they can go ahead and break it, raping THEN FUCKING KILLING (snuff films) little kids to get their sexual jollies?

          Just WAIT a short time until OTHER names start appearing “on the list” (Clintons, Owner of the Virgin Island, EVERYONE EMAILED ABOUT PIZZA! WOW our government sure is heavy into eating pizza and hotdogs huh?

          And then they have the damned ‘gall’ to tell us to our faces that every last one of OUR communications to each other WILL BE READ BY AUTHORITIES (just to make sure we keep our fingernails clean and to hell out of doing what they are HEAVY into doing).

          Last, I think we are LONG PAST DUE for what Trump suggests, a “draining of the swamp.” There is nothing in The Constitution that says we can’t use Black Guns when we discover our Government has “gone tyrannous” and us and ONLY US have the complete and justified powers and rights to oust the bastards bringing their “false reign” to a close, forever. Remember, the people of most all other countries (including America) are MORE than “on the warpath” and are ‘drooling’ at the thought of finally catching ALL THE SOBs who have been dealing in “young body parts for sale”- “Children for Sale” (Pizza or Hotdogs?).

          How much further is everyone willing to watch America “go down the pipes” due to vile and disgusting acts such as these coming from The Largest and Most Powerful Government IN THE WORLD? Does it matter? Do you have kids “in the line of fire?”

          Oh, I figured it out. We’ve plenty of ammo, we are needful of about 1 or 2 miles of Hemp Hanging Rope by Acme, although ParaCord-550 DOES work quite well (and is reusable)! Does that mean it is “sustainable?”

        • Oh no…
          We’re all going to die.
          Chicken Little.

        • in this case they were not using news to manipulate Americans, they were using news to manipulate foreign governments. the stories were leaked to Americans and believed…the senator then said he wanted to insure that the CIA or other agency wouldn’t use that method to manipulate Americans…apparently he failed…

      2. Just lame stream media’s way of trying to push vote recounts/discredit/divert attention from pizzagate ect.Cut ties with these fucks as much as possible,thenwe need to work on advertiser lists to boycott them as much as possible.

        I would not advocate silencing them thru govt. but have no problem letting all know what they do and who is supporting them.

        • we don’t want to violate their “snivel rights”, now do we?

          • Id like to cram my strider right up their sniveler

          • They have screwed themselves out of having ANY ‘f’ing rights, don’t ya think?

            I’m all for blowing their heads off and using their bodies to burn for energy production. It would be the only useful thing they’d ever done with their bodies …be burnt for fuel.

            Or, (I don’t have any numbers this morn), what if we turned them all into Soylent Green to feed the starving masses in America? For the first time ever TPTB would be contributing something besides our tax dollars.

            And exactly how much longer is America going to allow non-Americans to run around this country causing ‘hate and dissent’? Shoot them enough and they’ll hush up.

            Who causes almost ALL of the “upsets and fights”? Usually, it’s the “FAKE AMERICAN GOVERNMENT” using Political Actors paid to deceive “all of America” into believing “their way.” (After all, seeing and hearing is hard to argue with, even though what you heard and saw was modified 800 times in a studio).

            I am ALL FOR “running their asses down” as often as I get a chance, and there is damned little TPTB can do to shut down our “circles.”

            Did anyone notice on Fox this morning that the FRONT LINE news was about “threats on Mosques” and how terrible this would be. (Not a word about Christian anything …just how bad this will be for Islam, Mosques and the sheer danger of it all).

            Gee whillikers, like about one month ago, maybe six weeks, there were (and still are) thousands who would love nothing more than to burn all the Mosques in America then ship all Islamics back to wherever they came from. Oh, they are also trying to “hide” their ID’s already by “pretending” to do away with their ‘classic’ mode of dressing women (burquas(sp?), just to dupe us a little further and a little longer, and then, in a few generation when we are outnumbered, we then are outvoted and America goes Islamic, followed by beheadings in the name of allah.

            Or, would they wish to wait that long and something is about to descend upon us? Doesn’t LOOK like it to me, yet it would be stupidity to think “nothing is going on anywhere that is anti-American.’ Hell, the DNC is still doing that job quite nicely judging from all the latest reports.

      3. This is a prepper site.
        But to Liberals, Democrats, and GOPe it
        is the wrong kind of information. We seek to
        survive disasters be it natural, war, or
        political, based on our personal, individual
        skills, and preparation.
        Free exchange of information
        allows us to find truths, facts, and data
        in the world regardless of what the American
        and world media says.
        Keep the Internet free and remember you
        are ultimately responsible for your opinions
        and how you arrive at your beliefs. It is
        called “critical thinking”.

        • Rellik, damn right. How DARE the libturds target this website, MY HOME. Well, targets DO work more than one way..

          • there ya go being deplorable-like again…

            • Equorial, I DEPLORE what you said, LOL!

              • hmmm ….Braveheart …is it possible (or permissable?) to have deplorable thoughts about one who is avidly deplorable themselves?

                For instance, am I deplorable for assuming that a reverse impression of Hitlery’s ass would make an excellent “footing” for all concrete bridge stantions that will be ‘set’ in a watery-environment. (After all, they are very large footings, making her backsides about perfect.

                Is that deplorable or permissible thinking?

                • Shaky at best, and crooked as hell!

                • Equorial, ROTFLMAO! Damn good one! Hell yes, that’s permissible thinking. From one deplorable to another, I thank you for that one.

        • Well i can tell ya what im doing if this site disappears

          • Nailbanger, you said you CAN tell us …then ‘clam up’? The suspense is killing us, so please stop being deplorable and out with it s’il vous plait. (or something like that).

            • Im going to cry and scream for a safe space,’op”””

        • So how about every 1 of 5 comments, we all post something useful about Prepping topics and tips. Still a lot of Newbees seeking Prepping help here. So if you are reading this and never comment, how about ask some questions about prepping, or post some useful prepping info. Thx, get involved and we all learn.

          Yeah a lot of these article topics here are somewhat a distraction to prepping, but they just reflect how rigged the system is and our slide in civil order and to know the difference by being awake to the real truth, and curious enough to seek it. Calling out the evil doers oppressing the truth is part of it. Keep them all accountable.

          • Zeus:

            Chia seeds need to be in every Prepper’s pantry.

            These little seeds are unique in that they are tasteless. Chia takes on the taste of whatever you put with it so it can be used in sweet or savory foods.

            The chia seed makes a gel that stays fresh for one week in the refrigerator and can be added to smoothies and many dishes. One to nine: this is the formula. Use one part chia seed to nine parts chia seeds. For example: 1tablespoon chia seed plus 9 tablespoons water. Leave in the refrigerator in a covered container. It takes only about fifteen minutes for the seeds to become infused with water and become a gel. This gelling ability can be used in many instances to hold foods together. For example fruit jello. Bread, eggs, muffins, cookies, cake, sauces, salad dressing, yogurt, pies, ect. The list is endless.

            You can buy a book with recipes. One such book is : The Chia Seed Cookbook -My Seeds Chia Test Kitchen, Skyhorse Publishing, ISBN 978-1-4351-5996-9.

            From the book: “Eat Well, Feel Great, Lose Weight”.

            1. Use filtered water. The taste of water additives is intensified by the seeds.

            Benefits Include:

            Balanced blood sugar

            Prevent Diverticulitis and other bowel problems

            Increased Energy

            Fights aging

            Chia seeds contain omega 3 oil. They can replace half the butter and oil in a recipe. Chia seeds make you feel full, cut cravings, and stretch your dollar.

            Put chia seeds into a hamburger or sausage patty. Make salmon loaf. Tuna patties stay together better in your sandwich. Whether it’s deviled eggs or a fancy hor d’oeurves, chia makes it better.

            tip of the day: Chia Seeds


            • Barnes and Noble


              • One more thing.

                Chia works like GMOs naturally contain a substance that repels insects. ( I wonder if that is what inspired scientists to create GMOs. Hmmm???)

                So farmers don’t need to spray insecticide. The plant grows in sandy drought poor soil. So it is naturally organic, pesticide free.

                Just thought you guys being such close friends and all, I ought to let you know.

                We have to stop meeting like this. Things are getting out of hand. People are starting to talk.

                If this love affair ends, I wish you all a good life, a Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year for many years.


      4. from the “washington post”?…PFFFFT!

        • Exactly… they have even the credibility of a used car salesman…..

          • TN Andy, they’re making the car salesman look GOOD with this move.

      5. If enough people thought this site was media that would have to be rectified, but I trust most people know this had become the Internet equivalent of a comic strip.

      6. Another good list. I’ll have to check these out for myself and make a hard copy.

        Putin looks great holding a pistol. Picture him riding a nuke. Sexy man, if I say so myself. That wasn’t me saying that. It was hacked by the Russians.

        There is a YouTube video that purportedly shows Assange as a child growing up in a dysfunctional family of white haired children. The NEW Assange’s face fits the face of one of these kids. But if one looks at the face of the original Assange, his nose is smaller, more aryan, if you will. J*ws, who lived in Germany for generations, intermarried with blond haired Germans. This is unfortunate for Europeans suffering under J*w ish tyrannical banking, academia, media, publishing, legal system, medical/pharmaceutical system; all controlled by J*ws.

        Remember, it is the idiology, the philosophical differences between J*ws and the rest of us that cause us to find fault. There are always good people in every group. Never blame ALL of a group for the sins of the leaders. There were J*ws fighting this insane supremist group think long ago. They still exist.

        I am afraid that the ultimate top movers, the Rothschilds and the other elite J*w families may use anti J*w sentiment as an excuse to expand the Middle East into oil rich land, and force J*w people to leave the U.S. and Europe. So be aware. Don’t give individual J*ws a hard time for no reason. Don’t be mean. Stick to issues. Stick to the facts. For goodness sake there are enough real problems created by specific j*ws. It should be a given at this point, that there is a J*w agenda for global control. If you don’t know that by now. You must have had your brain hacked by a reptilian Russian.


      7. B from CA, if Putin had shot some of our libturds with that pistol, I would be forever in a debt of gratitude to him. This article really got my dander up. I’m sure Mac is very, very concerned and rightly so. I wish I knew what I could do to help him besides taking up arms against the libturds. This site is my home. You attack my home you’re attacking me. there will be consequences for whatever they try to do.

        • Hey, if they ‘attack’ THE REAL NEWS, and fucking insist we swallow their damned eternal lies, then they’ll witness “out-and-out” fury from a mess of people.

          We CAN NOT allow the bastards to tear down the web (and we all knew it was coming when Obama let ICAAN be taken away) …now it is no longer “in our hands” (and no way to get a straight answer as to who is controlling what …anymore).

          To control the media would be to control the masses, since very few do NOT listen to TV. That means the democrats would be influencing the people against Trump, in a nutshell, and we all know exactly where THAT would end up.

          Sometimes I have to sit back and ponder what the “F” IS going on anyway…?

      8. Oh Hell, Yeah!

        We Made The BIG TIME!

        Question is. Have you been paying attention? Have you made copies? We knew this would be comings with that handover of the internet which will become a big socialist propaganda machine. Get your radios ready.

      9. Anon, funny you mention radios. I just checked both of my portable Grundigs the other day and they’re good to go. And don’t forget the BATTERIES! Lots and lots of em’.

        • Mentioned this a few times over the years, but no one really cares. . We need to come up with a way to communicate after tshtf. Any ideas? You guys are spread all over the u.s. & it’s gonna be hard to find like minded. Maybe a certain frequency or what have you!! Need to keep it inconspicuous at first. We have modded cb’s that work outside the normal, but except for skip, won’t go real far. Comms will be the only way we’ll know what’s going on outside of our circle.
          Molon labe

          • WIprepped

            Only way is to broadcast and see who you pick up.

            C.B. mid range channel’s 21 and 23.

            • I thought CH.-19 was the ‘hailing’ channel for CB’s?

              • Equorial

                CH 19 Trucker channel. Lots of people putting out some serious Watts and you get stepped on.(overpowered) The old timers dislike the newbies and depending on your location it could be had to communicate..

                You can broadcast on any channel you like but staying close to mid channels is better. I just put out two channels I will used.

                Many hunters use the lower 40 channels.

            • Good morning folks fair warning Ch 21 is trucker CB in Cali .I use CB for comms let me see if I can set it up try for tomorrow morning 9 am CB 23 let me know if you have ssb use upper.Eq I’ll holler at you little far your in Tn I’m in N La.
              Different phone hate this thing
              Maniac –out

              • Set it up try now if you have the time supposed to rain in morning Sorry skip the ssb that was my other radio haven’t used this thing in 14 years quit driving! We’ll try later
                Be well all
                Maniac –out

          • It could come down to two cans and a string at this rate

        • Braveheart, (bowing repeatedly), THANKS DUDE! *We recently ordered in a set of six radios (for a team of two – to make it “appear’ there are more people out there with radios than actually are ya know?). UNIDEN GMR5099’s (only because the higher priced model ‘vibrates’ vs ‘ringing’ and they both have ‘mouthpiece/earphones’ that just never can fall out.

          BUT I FORGOT TO ORDER SPARE BATTERY PACKS! (Now, thanks to you, they are on a UPS truck somewhere heading this-a-way).

      10. Hi guys!

        Hey, our 15 seconds of fame with the fascist left! Woo-hoo! You see, when fascists like this get caught, what better way to go than the tu quoque (you are one too) argument, or even better, accuse someone of what you are doing yourself.

        Speaking of fake news, let’s give a shout out to the NY Slimes, newspaper of:

        Walter “I don’t see no stinkin’ starving kulaks in Stalin’s Ukraine” Duranty

        Fiction writer Jayson Blair

        Big supporter of Lincoln “I have seen the future (in Stalin’s 1930s USSR) and it works” Steffens

        Big backer of fake Nobel Prize winner Rigoberta Menchu

        Honorary Mention: CBS, home of former CBS News president Richard Salant “Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we decide they ought to have.”

        Dishonorary Mention: CNN
        Everything they do is slime

        • To me it just resembles another lousy attempt at taking away our Rights. In this case:


          They can’t – so don’t worry about it. If they try, they die.

      11. Thanks for the list, arrogant leftists. Just found a few more I missed, such as

        A few more of the “credible” news sources of the fascist left…. in their OWN words, with source provided:

        “I hope his wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter and he dies early like many black men do, of heart disease.”
        Liberal USA Today columnist Julianne Malveaux on Clarence Thomas

        “Blacks and Hispanics were too busy eating watermelons and tacos to read the fine print on the phony insurance policies.”
        Mike Wallace, of 60 Minutes fame

        “If there is justice, he’ll get AIDS, or one of his grandchildren will get it.”
        NPR’s Nina Totenberg on Jesse Helms, wishing a disease on someone – or his innocent grandchildren – that I wouldn’t want my worst enemy to have.

        “Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we decide they ought to have.”
        Former CBS News president Richard Salant.

        Quoted from You Don’t Say, by Fred Gielow, Freedom Books, 1999

        Then these:

        – Garry Trudeau, possibly taking a cue from Sen. KKK Byrd, caricatured Condi Rice and put a label under her calling her “Brown Sugar”

        – Hilary referring to blacks as “super predators” in 1996: At least Bernie Sanders thought it was racist

        – Lib racist Pat Oliphant incredibly pictured Rice as a big-lipped parrot in one of his “cartoon” (yes, everyone finds racism “real” funny, Pat). .

        – But, as they say in the commercials: Wait, there’s more… Jeff Danziger has shown Rice as the servant in Gone with the Wind

        – Ted Rall referred to Condi as the president’s ‘House N-word’… however, Jesse Jackson has, insofar as I know, not had – for the first time ever that I can remember – any protest to lodge over this.

        – Finally, one upping the former DEMOCRAT Gov. of Alabama, George Wallace, John Sylvester, in P.C. Madison, called Condi an “Aunt Jemima.”

      12. My own update of fake news sources, from their former name to present day name:

        Izvestia 1966 = ABC (Always ‘Bout Clinton)

        Pravda 1970 = NBC (Nuttin’ But Clinton)

        Der Sturmer 1939 = CBS (Crowing ‘Bout Clinton)

        Komsomol 1969 = CNN (Commie News Network)

        Granma (even up today in Cuba) = PBS

      13. Mac

        Having problems posting.

      14. To all you political havks and MSM pricks, better be careful what you stick your fingers in,
        You may be lucky to pull back a bloody stump

      15. Nothing more than a rehash of the famed lefty fascist Herbert Marcuse, who popularized the “repressive tolerance” theory of modern progressives.

        “Liberating tolerance would mean intolerance against movements from the right and toleration of movements from the left,” Marcuse pontificated. “Certain things cannot be said, certain ideas cannot be expressed, certain policies cannot be proposed.”

      16. “..It was like Russia was running a super PAC for Trump’s campaign.”

        No word from this non-Einstein about Georgie Soros’ billion dollar contributions (who knows what the exact amount was!)

        The fascist left media reminds me of what Talleyrand said about the pinheads of the French nobility (probably borrowed from a 1796 letter to Mallet du Pan by French naval officer Charles Louis Etienne, Chevalier de Panat): Personne n’est corrigé; personne n’a su ni rien oublier ni rien appendre” – or roughly “The learned nothing, and they forgot nothing.”

        Buh-bye leftist press. Actually, it has NOT been nice knowing you. Don’t let the door hit you in the arze on the way out!

        • Religion is in the same Camp as Lie TV. Telling you to Obey or face Fires and Brimstone. Dumbing you down so you are too afraid to question Authority or stand up for your rights. Yep just go along and place all your faith in a magical hoax to fix it all for you, and if you keep their collection plate full of bribes, they will save you from all the evil in the end. Religion is like propaganda Lie TV. Shut it off, tune it out and you will be just fine, and go spend your church money on Tangible Preps, not a false promise. And don’t let anybody call you an atheist or heathen either, because you choose to be an independent thinker instead of a programmed drone to obey and to NOT Think or demand accountability from the liars. Why worship a Jealous God?

          Religion will preach and tell you how to think. Its a dismal trap and hard to get out of, because its mostly a set of traditions over generations. Demand from your church accountability and proof of all the BS they preach. Like Everlasting Life. The proof is, you will all die. Nobody is ever saved for endless life. So don’t spend your life filling your brain with useless nonsense.

          • Sorry Zeus. I only learned to think critically AFTER I became a Christian. As a matter of fact, the truth is that if there are no absolutes, you have no reason to value human dignity other than your own personal preference. To your evolutionary mind, you MUST, by definition, believe that whatever is, is right. Period, end of story. That is why, e.g., famed atheist philosopher Anthony Flew (you DO know who he is, don’t you???) became a believer in God at the very end of his life. Same with renowned philosopher C.E.M. Joad.

            It appears you have never studied the case for the resurrection, have you? (See Lee Strobel’s book on the subject; Strobel did his law degree at Yale. See also the scholarly works by doctors Craig Blomberg, Bruce Metzger, Edwin Yamauchi, D.A. Carson, Louis Lapides, William Lane Craig, Gary Habermas, J. P. Moreland et al.)

            Interestingly, the man considered the most critical to establishing what constitutes evidence in our courts of law in the US in the 1800s at Harvard was a Jewish man, Simon Greeleaf. Let me repeat: This man was perhaps the seminal force is setting what constitutes LEGAL EVIDENCE in this country. Someone put the same challenge before him about the evidence for the resurrection. Greenleaf took the challenge, and this Jewish man ended up becoming a Christian, penning the book “The Testimony of the Evangelists.”

            My question to you is, respectfully speaking, have you shown the same intellectual honesty and same due diligence on the subject?

            Incidentally, you appear to mistake category mistakes. The fire of Hell is a *metaphor*. But it will be separation from God. Heaven is where we say to God “Your will be done.” The fires of Hell will be a place where you say “MY will be done.” Since you seem so concerned with this, The Great Divorce by CS Lewis, VERY short, will tell you what Christians believe about the subject.

            Magical belief? As astrophysicist Robert Jastrow once noted “For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance, he is about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock, he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for centuries.”

            • Test, I do not think he has the mental capacity to read or understand what you’ve posted.
              To many people today, the ‘modern’ thinking is a “scientific” and “prove it” mentality:
              “if I can’t see it, touch it, taste it, IT DOESN’T EXIST.”

              Anyone who has had a religious experience (see William James) knows differently.
              Read “The Master Game” by Robert S. deRopp.
              (Humans need a game worth playing)

              • You 2 are so gullible. LMFAO!

                • The Lord of Glory, Jesus The Christ

                  will be having the last laugh as you face the wrath of the Lamb.

                  You still have time god Zeus.

                  Make good use of it while you have it.

              • Ketchup, I will respectfully simply decline reading Zeus’s posts going forward. Not out of animosity, but rather no communication is apparently taking place, and it has just turned into insults from him, or one other poster here accusing me of “intolerance and hatred” (apparently the campus speech and thought police are working on this site now!) for simply voicing an opinion. They are welcome to misread what I posted as they will, but better just for them to similarly decline reading my posts as well. There is no need to engage in (as they call it) “pissing match” (sorry, don’t mean to be crude) I simply respectfully and firmly stated my opinion, which was apparently misunderstood. I tried several times, but we still are not communicating, so it is best to – again, with respect – move on. This IS the internet, after all! Worse, when people aren’t writing clearly (and I do the same… we all do!), it only makes it worse. I miscommunicate with my lovely, brilliant and caring wife of 30 years all the time – how much more fraught with error is communication on the internet.

                Truth is, the real religion (where religion is defined as ANYTHING that tells us where we came from, why we are here, and where we are going) is communism and various flavours of leftism. By that measure, even nihilism, atheism, etc. coiuld be categorized as “religions,” and if I am not mistaken, I am pretty sure courts have ruled in this exact manner. With the left having murdered more people than any other movement or group in history (~100 mm, per the Black Book of Communism, Oxford Univ. Press), they get the award by far.

                So, to Zeus and that other who accused me of some kind of thought police crime, I wish you bonne chance (good luck) and well. And I sincerely apologize if I offended you. But I will continue to post thoughts and opinions on topics in a forum where free speech and thought in encouraged. I will try to be more sensitive to people who are easily offended as well. I think going forward I will decline reading his posts, and he are may do well to do the same. Merci.

                • Yes Religious people are so Hateful and spiteful, closed minding to even read facts. Religion is a cult, and one of the most evil sectors of populations on the planet. Get rid of Religion and the world returns back to peace. As long as you Idolize a Jealous God, you are doomed from within. Never be afraid of the truth. It will set you free. Unchain yourselves from the clutches of Jealousy and hate.

      17. Forget how much money satin’s advocate (hillary) spent on paid internet trolls…

        They’ve been hit in the weak spot, now they foam at the mouth. Gotta keep hitting them without letting up until the beast is dead.

      18. Yall do realize this is a typical leftist tactic, used throughout history, the Nazis were famous for this,
        Shut down the opposition,

        • True.

      19. Nailbanger I was a carpenter. Watch. Hellstorm. Or . The greatest story never told . Then have an opinion? Satans greatest weapon is the lie . And his children are experts. Don’t be fooled. Crusify him? That’s what they said. Maybe you shouldn’t repeat there words?Think about it?

      20. The word carpenter . Comes from the word carpendium. Witch was a two wheeled chariot. Called a car.. For short. So many things are the same. It’s getting harder to separate the truth from what they want to be the truth.. WW2 is 90% lies. It’s hard to except. But look at the outcome. That’s the bottom line . We helped the communists rape and enslave half of Europe. Can you deny that? The Bolshavic communists won WW2 . And we are suffering the aftermath. Can you deny that? Who can? Look at who controls our world. And tell me I’m wrong? Pick a side. And live with it.

        • You remember what they did to the last perfect carpenter dontcha

          • Supposedly the next perfect carpenter will be more successful?

      21. Im mostly scandanavian and german no Russian. I do own a Russian 762×54 and a whole lotta surplus ammo. The bolt acton never jams. If you lined up a number of blue helmets with body armor in a row I wonder how many it would pierce? the same question how many fat dindus or land wale wiggers would one round pierce? I bet It would pierce more body armor than fat? The fat likely would be like ballistics jell!

        • 7.62 x 54 is the rough equivalent of a 30-06.

        • That ‘fat’ is one reason why the “shok” bullets turns the meat into hamburg …the fat seems to amplify the ‘shock waves’ produced by the projectile and “hammers cells to hell”. They are good for both ‘self defense rounds’ or, in higher calibers, very large animal rounds (like dinosaurs).

      22. This is just McCarthyism except they call you “Russian propaganda tools” instead of communists. The American people are fully capable of sorting out who is telling the truth and who is controlled by wealthy and powerful people to put out any stream of lies that they want promoted. Leave it to the American people! we certainly don’t need the American government to decide!

      23. The govt. and mainstream media have no hold on me,gave up believing them about oh……8 years ago.

        • I woke up long before that!

          • Russia just happens to the be the Lefties convenient Boogie Man at this time. They always need a boogie man to justify their existence.

            Just like the Devil and Hell propaganda is, for Religion to Con the sheep into giving up all their wealth to the church to save them from the nasty’s and evil. Its an effective superstitious Con duping many, generation after generation mostly in the Bible belt. Its Mind slavery. Many are so weak and lack confidence they flock to anything that makes them feel good about themselves, like the feeling of community, then are used again and set up to be fleeced financially. Religion is a suckers play. Like betting on sports, Any given Sunday,…. Pass the Plate for another Sermon (serving)of BS. Some like extra helpings and go on Wednesday and Saturday too.

            Religion is the oldest written form of Propaganda to influence and control the masses. Martyrs to Miracles, like Harry Potter for adults.

            • For the most part I agree with you, but see my post above.
              You’re right about “organized religion.”

              • Pope has come out with some weird stuff lately.

            • Unfortunately, you appear to conflate “religion” with a God who, to quote philosopher Francis Schaeffer, “is there.”

              Strange the vitriol you have against something that doesn’t exist. I don’t get angry at the Easter Bunny or Santa Claus, yet your very nom de plume here is some back-handed slap at the God you claim does not exist. Very strange.

              And relative to organized religion, clearly don’t appear to have read Dostoyevski lately… particularly The Brothers Karamozov and the Grand Inquisitor chapter.

              You claim religion (which you conflate with faith – and which I do not) is “the oldest form of propaganda.” I get the cliche… been hearing it for years. And in fact, there can be a shred of truth to it, for as I read it, even Christ taught that *religion* can merely be an inoculation against real faith (cf the Pharisees).

              Just because there are knock-off Rolexes does not mean the real ones don’t exist.

              But I am curious if you have ever even read the primary literature – viz., the New Testament. If not, everything you write here is based on ignorance and hearsay, pure and simple.

              Just be careful!! As CS Lewis wrote about his own departure from atheism while at Oxford (The Most Reluctant Convert), you can never be too careful as an atheist about what you read!!!!

              • How about this?

                In the beginning, God created heaven and earth. (Not a quote but most know this is the opening verse of The KJV or The Holy Bible).

                Okay then, at the time God created EVERYTHING, there is no mention of any ‘raw materials’ being at hand that God created the Universe from is there? Nope.

                That verse is meant to state that God took himself and created everything within his mind to that of which we can see, feel, smell, touch, to include thoughts and emotion …to include absolutely everything. God even states He is ‘evil’ in The Old Testament. Since this is assumed correct, what need of a Satan would there be? (And what God could not “think” Satan into non-existence being that satan is nothing more than a fallen angel, the most beautiful angel at that)!

                In a nutshell, religion points you to the thought that “all that exists” is comprised of God (yet it is always taught “with a twist”, to include evil. Since there is nobody on earth that can prove nor disprove this – is it not worthy of more thought and consideration? After all, what I have just presented is a way of looking at God that FEW are ever introduced to or ‘catch wind of’.

                Feedback? Braveheart? Rellik?

                • God even states He is ‘evil’ in The Old Testament.

                  Chapter and verse plz. thanks.

                • Obviously you never studied astrology, history, science, biology, geology. Get some facts, then post your thoughts on how earth was created. These religions folks think some hocus pocus religious magic wand waved and all the sudden all of earth was in place over a few days. And everything on earth is just 5000 years old.

                  Ever do carbon dating on diamonds, or the age of the Grand Canyon or the age of Coal. Its a real eye opener for the non-curious religion folks clutching to their bible hoax. And things that they can’t explain it is deemed a Miracle. It would be a Miracle if religions folks did some research and became curious for the truth.

            • Why the negative attitude on choice?

              Religion is a choice. Everything is a choice. What you demonstrate by your words is intolerance bordering on hatred. If people want to pray to God, is it up to you to say no? Of course not.

              Although your point of view may be valid, it is no excuse for your language and ideology being pushed on people.

              • I am not “pushing: anything on anybody. People are adults here, and they can accept or refuse, what I am saying, or not read it at all. I am truly sorry you mis-read it that way, but let me say respectfully I’m afraid you completely mis-read my post.

                In fact, your call to “tolerance bordering on hatred” is the same refuge the campus speech and thought police are using, simply to try to shame and shut others up. On a site dedicated to people expressing ideas, I find your response very puzzling.

                People have free choice. If I wish to explain my position, why is that a problem?? I am utterly confused as to exactly how and why you could even begin to read hatred or compulsion into anything I wrote. What? Do I have the writer’s IP address, and I’m going to show up at his house with a baseball bat? Just don’t read my post then. I’m totally confused how you got from point a to point b. Isn’t everything here people’s take on matters? To be honest, what I read from your post is your own intolerance bordering on hatred – by accusing me of something I totally reject.

                • Test:

                  My apologies, I was referring to the comment/reply from Zeus.

                  I read and agreed with your post.

                  • Again, my apologies.

                    I had FIM disease at the time when I broke a rule:

                    1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

                    2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

                    3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

                    4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

                    5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

                    Matthew 7:1-5-

                    Thx TEST

                    • Thanks for the clarification, OM. This is the thing with the internet… how fraught it is with the possibility of miscommunication!! And I start with myself! As I say, if I still miscommunicate with my lovely, brilliant, thoughtful wife after 30 years, how much more so with strangers on the internet!

                      Appreciate your clarification.

                      And my apologies to those offended.

      24. During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

        George Orwell

        • KEVIN2 – Go back a few articles to the Standing Rock Article. Commenters on there were so programmed thinking any protestor is Soros Paid shill, and then tried to link the Native Souix Standing Rock people protecting their water, surely must be Soros paid protestors. Like WTF kind of programmed propaganda have they been listening to, with such shallow depth of knowledge t even make a comment?

          Way too many people read just the headlines. How many times you clicked on a Catchy headline Article and the article had nothing to do with the Headline?? Or get you to try and click on more links to adds and take you off on some other tangent. Its mind control.

          Many times when I read an article, I go do more research on the subject, to see if these are facts or not, or contradicting and conflicting info. Again some just read the headlines and draw conclusions. I will say Bad info is worse and more poisonous than No Info. Many of us already know who lies in the media. That’s a fact.

          • Zeus Peddle your line of crap someplace else. Those Indians are trying to get a monopoly on the water rights. Its about the dollars. Those Indians killed the folks who where there and took the land by force It then became theirs. The owned it for about 150 years. Then the white man,s government came and killed a lot of them and took that land by force. It has been the goverments land for about 136 years. And the pipeline isn’t on the reservation. Its ten miles away from the reservation. Those Indians are parasites never produced anything. They for the most part live on the govt dole. The girl who got her arm injured is a white woman from New York. The Indians are commies. Nope I side with the producing pipe line owners. blocking roads and slingshot burning logs and breaking the law should be stopped no matter who is doing it or how just they think their cause is. That pipeline will lower the cost of oil. lower oil cost equals a lower cost of production. Lower cost of production = more profit more jobs, more state local and federal taxes paid into the public coffers. Its one of the most importiant things that must happen to Make America Great Again! Protecting their Water my ass. Its not their water anymore its not their land anymore. It hasn’t been theirs for about 136 years. They use the sacred ground excuse the same as the DINDU use the race card and We wus slaves one. I read someplace that Hanoi Jane was on her way their. If that don’t tell you something your skull is 4 inches thick.

            • Old Guy

              Hanoi Jane? If that don’t take the cake.

            • Old Guy, it’s clear to me that zeus has overdosed on that commie koolaid. So Jane Fonda’s headed to that protest? No surprise there. she’s always been as red as a chinese flag.

              • Yea My wife saw it posted on face book that She was going there. and showed it to me.

      25. HEADS UP EVERYONE! I woke up to some good news this morning.. FIDEL CASTRO DIED LAST NIGHT IN HAVANA. I always said I would celebrate when the SOB dies. One less commie POS on the face of the earth. One step closer to liberation for the Cuban people. The exiles are already celebrating. I’ve been on the phone with my in-laws and friends in Miami this morning and they are ecstatic. It will be interesting to see what happens in Cuba now. DEATH TO COMMUNISM! LONG LIVE A FREE AND INDEPENDENT CUBA!

        • Great News Deplorable Brave. Now Trump has a fresh start renewing friendship and business relationships with the Cuban People. Time to write a new chapter. Two things I want out of Cuba. Great Cigars and Friendly Cuban Cuties.

          • Zeus, you might get some Cuban cigars but you’ll NEVER get a Cuban woman UNLESS she’s a Castro SUPPPORTER. I dare you go to any Cuban exile community in the US and start mouthing off good things about Castro like you did in that post earlier. They’d run you out on a rail. I KNOW how the Cuban exiles are since I was MARRIED to one. I hope Trump does some good things for the Cuban people but that remains to be seen.

            • Yo Deplorable. I already dated plenty of Cuban chicks, so I can do what ever the F*ck I want, including smoking Cuba Cigars if I please. Sure the same Old emotional Cubans who live in America can’t adjust to history. So now that Castro is dead, go back to Cuba and claim your stake. Half of Miami would empty out. Good, See ya!! Its over move on. Vamoose!!


                • I have responded to all of you but the site Host is blocking my posts that clearly state facts. I guess this site hates facts, and lets the ranters carry on as they please. That’s OK I can fight with both hands tied behind my back. Jagoff. Just reflects what a cartoon strip this is here.

                  • You know why your comments are being deleted and it has nothing to do with getting the facts in front of this community. A little civility goes a long way. If you cannot post your ‘facts’ without ridiculing the user(s) you are responding to, then you will continue to see your comments removed.

                    • Mac, I can’t prove it but Zeus sounds like WWTI posting under a different moniker. It’s funny he would choose the name of a Greek god for his new moniker since he always claimed there’s NO God..

            • One thing Castro did was when he threw Batastia out with the help of the USA. He also threw out all of the USA millionaires who where using the country for a Brothel and illicit things. And He did reward those who fought along side him. He also with Russian help made JFK back down and look like a fool after the failed bay of pigs invasion. Castro like Hitler wasn’t entirely bad. Now ole cankles is entirely evil. She likely doesn’t even have a soul. Her soul likely gave up and left her long ago or she sold it to the devil. As flawed as he is. I consider it divine intervention that Trump decided to run and he was successful. Think about it someone as brash and with the thick skin and finances to twart both the dem and repubs who where against him. that’s a rare human indeed.


        Exploit Amazon’s greatest fear. Use the Amazon site to look up products. Then, go directly to the seller’s website and purchase direct.

        Dollars = Power in todays world. Don’t give Bezos any more power.

        The true election is everyday when one votes with their wallet.

        • Yea, but its so easy to one click that doodad that you just cant find locally,,,,,

        • Cellar, I’m on it. Use amazon to check the reviews of products, then go elsewhere!

      27. Brave,,,,
        One down one to go
        Peace Brother

        • Nailbanger, even after Raul is gone there’s still the Castro supporters to deal with and there’s still too many of those. Fidel Castro burn in hell forever! Peace to you also, Nailbanger.

      28. Fidel Castro is Dead

        Let’s see how many praises Obama sings to the American Public about the Dictator who killed thousands.

        • Anon, Obama did offer condolences to the Castro family. No surprise there. Typical commie POS.

          • DBH

            Yep, read it too.

      29. Castro destroyed Cuba. He was an idiot. If he was such a nice guy then why did millions of Cubans flee for Miami? Remember, Obama wrote this in his book, his mentor was the communist Frank Davis. The writer of his “Dreams of my Father”, was the communist Bill Ayers. Obama said that while he was in college he would seek out communist students to associate with. He preferred communists. Expect Obama to praise the living Hell out of Castro. I bet he even mentions Che.

        • Well I am hoping that Trump will be such a nice guy that millions of rag heads illegals and parasite commie liberals culls will flee the USA. Castro emptied out his prisons and let them leave. I would venture to guess a lot of them where culls?

          • Old Guy;
            You got that right. One of those “refugees” murdered a family in my home town. Castro laughingly said,” I flushed the toilet of Cuba and it landed in the United States;. Rot in hell you shitbag.

        • Him

          “why did millions of Cubans flee for Miami”

          Cubans aren’t fleeing to Haiti or Jamaica and they’re close. Why are millions of Central Americans and Mexicans fleeing to the USA?

          Castor is no saint but if one looks at the literacy rate and medical care for the masses Cuba is ahead of it its Caribbean neighbors and thats with a US embargo. You do realize that the US Special Forces / CIA at “The School Of The Americas” trained Central American right wing death squads. Those death squads on occasion murdered Catholic Priests that spoke against the poverty and oppression in nations like Honduras.

      30. Then exactly what does the news media plan to do to “save face” after such an “about face” (they pulled) trying to get Hillary seated as our Queen …and failed miserably (which left their short skirts, panties and faces stuck out for all to see “in truth.”

        Now, pretty much as before, only Sheeple will even THINK about surfing to such sites, and will be programmed fully upon each visit, because that’s why TV exists now, “to train people” on every channel.

        I’m sure everyone can also see how this is also another “cleaving” of our “culture online” …hm? Get a whole mess of Sheeple pissed off at what WE prefer to read, instead of their lies, then we’ll have to deal with the idiots trying to force bs into all such sites (over-run with idiots until the server locks up).

        I suppose, IF you see all such sites as these disappear, you can be sure it is now “TIME” to hit the streets and let the bastards know we are here, in very large numbers they can’t handle (like millions)?

        • Equorial

          Question is who is going to make the call to arms. Then how many will show up. Are you going to pack your gear up and drive a thousand miles.

          All this has to be done local and everyone does it at the same time. I don’t see that happening.

          Who is going to lead the charge. Oh I Know. The NRA.

          • Don’t drive 1000 miles. Local. Stay in your area of operations. The area you know. Who’s going to do it? The guy in your mirror. Make history.

            • Him

              I don’t see nothing happening unless it directly concerns your welfare and is standing at your door.

              There will be some that are the first to go to jail but it may take some time for family and friends to organize resistance let alone an offensive posture and go after those who want to take away our rights.

              And there are lots of them embedded in our local, state and federal government and we let them stay there.

          • NRA? I don’t like them. They fail to realize the 2nd admendemt doesn’t belong to them. Its not theirs to bargain and negotiate away one compromise at a time. the 2nd preceded the bill of rights. Its a god given right. Its not the property of any orginazation or government. When the electric power is no more. That’s it. That’s the call to arms. Like it or not its game on. You will have to fight to protect everything. The Race war, ethnic cleansing, culling of the parasite folks who didn’t prep will begin. You will wish for the Good old Days back when Obama was in office. Very quickly it will be a stone age existence.

            • Old Guy

              If it wasn’t for the NRA we would be at a minimum Australia or Canada and at worst the UK. That god given right you stated was being eviscerated. The NRA uses the 1st Amendment to defend the 2nd. Please state the NRA compromises you disagree with.

              • The NRA actually wrote the legislation banning machine guns and full automatic weapons. That law forbid the re importing of American manufactured machine guns. Thus making the Machine guns already here skyrocket in value. And Guess who owned 90% of those? They allowed (encouraged) the bearu of alcohol & tobacco to wrongly use the commerce clause to become the BAT&F. John Dingle who was at the time a NRA board member voted for the Brady Bill. The NRA isn’t what keeps us from being Austrilia ,Canadia or the Uk. The conservative Supreme Court has in the past Twarted second admendment attacks. What will keep the 2nd is folks who will refuse to obey uncounstiional laws. The 2nd is protected by folks who will have to be killed to disarm them.

            • Old Guy, I totally agree about NRA. They’re NOT true 2A champions. ALL of our rights INCLUDING THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS comes from GOD, NOT THE POS NRA.

              • That’s why I never even considered getting a concealed permit. you don’t need any permit to exercise any rights. Why the 2nd where does it say there is aexception to the second admendment that a permit is required? And to add insult to injury a parasite agency has to be paid a annual bribe to keep said permit. And When you give some permission and deny others permission (to practice a God given Right) you create a division in society. You then have the permitted class and the not allowed class. Fuck Em. I simply carry concealed and anyone who tries to stop me that,s it! Its a call to ARM,s right then and there. I drove truck and carried my 44 concealed on my person. And I have been stopped and made to set in the front seat of the squad car. I bet some of those badged revenue parasites would shit if they had known I was heavily armed. You wouldn’t think a guy could carry a 44 ruger black hawk with a 10&1/2 BBl concealed on his person undetected? That wasn’t all truck driver pot belly under those bib overalls! My wife sews a special pocket and I place the 44 between a stiff quilted oven mitt on the outside and a layer of plastic book jacket on the flesh side. At a almost vertical position handle about 3 inches higher than the barrel. I can reach in from the right side and draw it out easily. setting in a squad car I could of shot the parasite without even removing it. And ive been stopped in Ill. Maby some LEO will read this and have nightmares!

          • Anon….lots of people with Anon huh? The Call To Arms has already been made by a number of Sheriff’s across the country, and none of their ‘calls’ have been revoked but still stand ‘hard’.

            There would be no reason for me to leave my AO. There are plenty in Maryland (which is THEIR ‘AO’).

            It appears “the movement” will be made by our biggest patriots. American ex-combat veterans followed by non-combat veterans followed by about a million and 1/2 of pissed off Americans.

            If it TAKES something like that to avert losing America, then of course there will be more than one person with an AR-15 or better seeking to make good use of it, since having our country destroyed IS NOT AN OPTION!

            The NRA? They’d be part of the “troops” and in reality we greatly outnumber those who would rather our heads be lopped off.

            Feel free to crawl in a hole and justify not risking your life for what you believe in, but as for myself I don’t believe I’ve made it this far just to be ‘wasted’ by some Islamic towelhead, or especially by a government that isn’t OUR government, but a government somewhat under Siege, with a whole lot of truths coming out into the open regarding The Powers That Be.

            You are looking at this through “civilian eyes” and not the same way that I ‘see it’. No worries, no problems here. Feel free to think anything you wish and that’s fine with me, and I don’t give a hoot what you might think about me. However, if you don’t like my attitude(s), you’d do well to stay out of my intended paths.

            You present yourself as if you are scared of being hurt, “as you don’t see it happening.”

            How the fuck can you NOT SEE IT HAPPENING? You have NOT SEEN the number of weapons Americans have and are still buying up? Have you not seen the amount of ammo that IS NOT ON THE SHELVES in areas of large concentrations of people? Have you not heard about how every Training Class in ANYTHING TO DO WITH WARFARE AND SELF-DEFENSE IS MAKING A MINT LATELY?

            So, when you say you don’t see it happening, it is only because you do not WISH to. It’s IN YOUR FACE (so live with it). You love America? You are gonna have to fight for her unless a great many changes happen DAMNED FAST. (There are those seeking to put us at war from within, without, above and below).

            I think you’ll see it happening soon enough. Um, ask LaVoy Finnicum’s wife about it. Ask the “water-defenders” about how the government SCREWED THEM ROYALLY regarding that frigging pipeline (which is all about money, as usual). They’ll tell you IT IS ALREADY HAPPENING – – just ain’t hit YOUR area yet? Look at what the Democrats are trying to pull to keep Trump OUT of The WH!
            But you say you don’t see it happening (and I DO realize you mean that you do not think the people will rise up to protect themselves). Well my friend, that’s crazy. Every soul has a natural, built-in “Self-Defense” mechanism that says KILL when your life is about to be extinguished. So on that much alone, you are ‘dead wrong’ (imho)

            Or do YOU feel I should sell my weapons and knifes and food stores and blindly go forth pretending all is well and good? THAT is most likely what you wish to see me concede to right?

            Hey, either way, no hard feeling meant nor intended.

            BTW: There won’t be a “charge” at all. This, if it happens, would be akin to guerrilla warfare …or close to it. Prepare accordingly especially if you don’t know how to fight gorillas.

            • Equorial

              “do YOU feel I should sell my weapons and knifes and food stores and blindly go forth pretending all is well and good? THAT is most likely what you wish to see me concede to right?”
              Now why would you say that when I employ others to prepare for war. Also how many tips have I given to the newbies and exchange information with others at this site.

              Listen when this shit goes down I’ll be there in the capacity I can do the best to help.
              Lots of shit I keep to myself. I have been burnt before by supposed good people and if I am going to commit, it is all the way. More cautious than before.

              I believe we are on the same page. Just in different paragraphs. No offense taken.

            • Equorial & anon</em.

              You both are in the same situation as the rest of us. Should we stay and defend or should we go and fight?

              Initially, we must focus on our immediate AO first, make it a secure as possible, then we can possibly expand outward (city, county, state, etc.). This all depends on the 'current situation' in our AO.

              We will strive to help when needed, but not so blindly that we loose sight of our intentions and goals as well as our resources.

              We must never give up on each other. We must never lose sight of the good in others.

              But, we must realize that caution is needed and there will be those that will not care who we are, what our morals are, or how we live.

              • An Obsolete Man

                Appreciate the good comments. People here think I am new at this but I have been in the game for sometime.

                I tried to PICK Seven to get a few guys together and train. No Go.

                I also deal in military gear and I have enough to put two patrols in the field. That’s right. Sixteen men. All they have to have is their weapons, ammo and food. I can match up with plenty of weapons. AK, SKS, Mini 14. M1 carbine, Garand, FN FAL and shotgun.

                But you know what. I will burn it all first before I will let it go to bad hands.

                I don’t want to hear about would of, could of should of. Too bad if you did not prepare.

                • No Go. I can see the No Go point. I will not join any group. The chance of being back stabbed is to much risk. And I am a lone Wolf. I don’t take orders very well. I had a difficult time my entire life because I disliked authority. Parents , teachers , employers , co workers ect. I resented being told what I ought to do. I always assumed that they where dumber than me. And I likely was correct. In the 12 grade I had a IQ of 140 and made C,s! but I didnt attend school much and never did homework. Just took the test and made 100% most of the time. I simply read the textbooks. And I don’t want to be anyone elses boss or enabler. Its best I give others a wide berth and they should do likewise.

                  • You’re definitely not alone. We are all loners to a degree.
                    But if/when the balloon goes up, and given the particular senerio(s), we may have to eventually band together. Not just for the usual reasons, but also for the human connection.

      31. You will notice that dave hodges common sense show is not on the list.

        • Look under thecommonsenseshow Founder. Including the Ron Paul Institute tells a tale indeed.

          • I see it now thanks for the find

      32. Right on cellar spider screw Amazon. If I know the thing I’m ordering is Chinese made I order direct from china. Way cheaper just transit times are a month. I’m patient so I don’t care about waiting. I’ve saved half the $ or more in some cases. To me there is a place for cheap shit just not where it is complicated devices. Bought some cheap led head lamps the Cree kind that you wear on your head. Got two for like $4 they sell for $15 easily on Amazon. Got a tms tent stove coming to me paid $30 the same one people are paying up to $100 for. Mostly everything is made in China and a wood stove and headlamp is low tech enough to not be much trouble. If the stuff fails no big deal I’m not out $200. When you live paycheck to paycheck you have to get the best deals. This is what going to the lowest bidder is. It’s the way of the world and I will do it too. Amazon don’t pay my bills.

      33. You mean the Russians who are forward thinking and promoting NON-GMO SUSTAINABLE ORGANIC FARMING in their own country and across the world, so their people can be healthy real human beings again, enjoying chemical free REAL FOOD…Are those the same Russians the psychopaths are warning us about, the psychopaths who have us under chemical attack and are controlling genocidal Police State hell on earth collapsing America??????

        • Ron, you are correct. I love your posts because they are spot on.
          The GMO, Chemtrailed, Flourided people don’t know what’s wrong. They are utterly confused – and far too weak to do anything to help themselves…

          • Thank you freedom and liberty loving true Patriot for not being afraid of the absolute TRUTH.

      34. Has Obama ordered flags at half staff?

        • Remember when Obama (Osama) was first on the scene? He was Black therefor he needed to be our first Black President. He was a well known Communist (Forget that fact) – Remember ONLY this – He is BLACK.
          It was more important to the left that we have a BLACK president then what his stripes were. The left wanted to prove how GOOD they were – at any cost to our government and our country.
          Now the left admits that Osama was less then expected but at least he was BLACK and that is what was important to them. To feel good. NOT to do good.

        • nothing about the flag that i could find

          The White House
          Office of the Press Secretary
          For Immediate Release November 26, 2016
          Statement by the President on the Passing of Fidel Castro

          At this time of Fidel Castro’s passing, we extend a hand of friendship to the Cuban people. We know that this moment fills Cubans – in Cuba and in the United States – with powerful emotions, recalling the countless ways in which Fidel Castro altered the course of individual lives, families, and of the Cuban nation. History will record and judge the enormous impact of this singular figure on the people and world around him.

          For nearly six decades, the relationship between the United States and Cuba was marked by discord and profound political disagreements. During my presidency, we have worked hard to put the past behind us, pursuing a future in which the relationship between our two countries is defined not by our differences but by the many things that we share as neighbors and friends – bonds of family, culture, commerce, and common humanity. This engagement includes the contributions of Cuban Americans, who have done so much for our country and who care deeply about their loved ones in Cuba.

          Today, we offer condolences to Fidel Castro’s family, and our thoughts and prayers are with the Cuban people. In the days ahead, they will recall the past and also look to the future. As they do, the Cuban people must know that they have a friend and partner in the United States of America.

        • anon. Yes, due to Cuba’s lovely recent loss of a dictator.

          • Ever listen to Radio Havana Cuba on Ham Radio. They let is rip and expose the US lies about the Viet Nam War. Its an eye opener.

      35. Russia, Russia, Russia…same boogeyman the psychopaths have been using for decades. You can always tell the manipulation of Fallen Angel demon psychopaths, the playbook never changes, because the demons have no CREATIVITY. Fascinating and horrifying at the same time-to follow these Fallen Angel psychopath monsters through the millennia, as the entities never change who are involved: in all the chaos and division currently see, in all the manipulation and programming of the masses, in all the death from war and violence on one another, in all the destruction of the earth, and involved in the eventual planned collapses of Empires like America…..Only the Fallen Angel human forms change through the millennia…..Can anyone guess which current Fallen Angel in a position of power now is Azazel????

        • Having a Boogie Man helps these war profiteers to pump up their Annual Budgets and line their pockets with Big Cashola. We need to take the profit out of war, like taxing all the Military Industrial Complex companies double taxes and the CEO’s Triple taxes. They will find a new line of business besides war.

      36. I love how the anonymous pukes at this Propornot outfit were at least smart enough not to allow comments. The place would be on fire if they did.

      37. Interesting to note “theblaze” isnt on that list. Wonder how much the j-commie becky paid?

      38. I can believe that Russia would write articles about the evils of “Dogleg (Bill) and Pitch (Hillary) and extoll Trump as peaceful. What I can’t believe is that Russia would pay anyone to publish any criticism of the progressive left when there are so many willing to do it for free. As for Russians hacking computers to influence outcomes, the irony would be awesome. Imagine using warlike tactics to gain a peaceful outcome. Love it.

        From now on this is the acronym for F.A.K.E. Everybody got it? Someone please make up some F.A.K.E. ID’s please, so I can print them up and be a card carrying member and distribute them to all my Freemen friends.

        • I like it,,,,
          Good one


      40. Here is another :

        Freedom F

        Altruism A

        Kindness K

        Ethics E

        __ these qualities are essential
        __ whatever works for you, go with it
        __ these are attributes I resonate with


        • Yes, I like it.

      41. Bullshit, You idiots are not smart enough for any thinking person to give you even a passing thought. Stop living with the delusion that you morons actually have anything useful to say.

        • We made the list. It’s a badge of courage. Honor is bestowed upon us.

          Offended?? Go to your safespace. Pacifier is optional.

        • Can’t stand bs, I CAN’T STAND A COMMIE TROLL SO GO F#$% YOURSELF AND MOVE ALONG. Your hero hillary said we were ‘deplorable’ and ‘irredeemable’ in the eyes of the left. I wear those 2 badges with pride and honor. I admit I’ll never be redeemed to be turned into a commie POS like you. I wouldn’t have it any other way. [SARCASM IS NOW OFF]

          • Oh I see, its only OK if DeplorableBH calls someone a commie POS. Lol. You talk out of both sides of your mouth.

            Several here are bankrupt on facts
            OldGuy is one such character.

            If you want liars to stop lying ask them to back up their rants with facts. A link with proof & truth. Otherwise you are just another drooling idiot.

            • Another day, another insult from Zeus. Apparently everyone is stupid except him. Ugh.

              • Guess you like propaganda over Truth. Too bad for you.

            • Did you not Read my Post. Do not believe anything you read see or hear on the internet and mainstream media. And only half of what you see with your very own eyes. There are always two sides to every story. And on the pipeline question. I chose to side with the productive who are actually producing. Not parasite welfare drawing free shit army reservation injuns. The whole problem with our economy can be reduced down to one single fact. Too many Taking Parasites and too few Making Producers is not long term sustainable.

          • Motion is seconded.

        • can’t stand the BS

          Guess you are not a thinking person.

        • Didnt you hear,,,, we work for the Russians,

        • can’t stand bs,

          you’re talking to the mainstream media, right?
          Thought so. Good one.

        • Can’t stand bs:

          I can’t stand bs either, and You are full of it.


      42. Good Afternoon All
        Hope everyone had a great Turkey Day!

        “They want to essentially erode faith in the U.S. government or U.S. government interests,”
        ….yep, if the Russians wanted to pursue “eroding faith” of American gov, they would have supported the regime that has been in power for the past 8 years and supported the continuation, Hitlery.
        As expected, these libtards are not going anywhere. They are ramping up their activities. Throwing out more false narratives trying to confuse and inflame. It looks like the only way to shut these MFs down is going to be to drag them to behind the woodshed and have a little meeting of the minds. Bare knuckle, baseball bat, AK, AR might be required…depends on the type of fairy your confronting at that moment.

        “There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism — by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide.”
        – Ayn Rand

        “Peace, that glorious moment in time when everyone stops and reloads.”
        ― Thomas Jefferson?

        Found this on 0 the other day
        HATER (Heavily Armed Trump Enabled Republican)

      43. …Looks like a Nazi-esque anti-First Amendment censorship list. …Reminiscent of Hitler’s “banned book” burnings? What is “fake”???? Isn’t real fake really “fake”?

        • My thoughts exactly on the list

        • Hitler was a leftist just like these turds

          • Exactly right, Nailbanger! Fascism was originally developed by Mussolini, as merger of the socialist state with co-opted, crony business.

            Here are the some planks of the Nazis, adopted in Munich on February 24, 1920:

            “We ask that the government undertake the obligation above all of providing citizens with adequate opportunity for employment and earning a living… We demand profit sharing in big business… the government must provide an all-around enlargement of our system of public education. . . We demand the education at government expense of gifted children of poor parents. . . . The government must undertake the improvement of public health… permanent recovery of our people can only proceed from within on the foundation of The Common Good Before the Individual Good”

            Nazi stands for the Nazionale Sozialistische Deutsche Arbeiter Partei – the National SOCIALIST German Workers Party. Was it just a name, as some say? Then why did the Nazi’s introduce the “Reichsarbeitsdienst” – the National Labour Svc that had public work systems; why the “Kraft durch Freude,” where the STATE even took care of the leisure time of workers?

            No the Nazis did not advocate public ownership of production, only that the govt oversee and run the economy, as they knew that legal ownership wasn’t what counted, but rather CONTROL. So, private citizens could hold title – as long as the state had the unqualified right to use their property. I.e., de facto socialism, the STATE still controls. Or, as Carl Limbacher wrote in NewsMax, Dec. 5, 2005, “Benito Mussolini’s Fascist economic policy, which he called the “mixed economy,” tried to combine Marxism with capitalism. What resulted was a dictatorship which allowed limited economic freedom to those favored industries willing to operate under government patronage.” The observant among you will note well the phrase “operate under government patronage.”

            This is right out of the Obama/Pelosi playbook., and you can read more about the socialism of the Nazis with any Google search, though exposes a lot about the National Socialist Program which was big on Euthanasia, Eugenics and Social Darwinism , which are big hits with libs today, too.

          • The Germans burned there. Media lie books just like we should.Believe the children of satans news media if you want . Satan rules this world and you are believing his news reporters . Watch The greatest story never told. Or. Hellstorm. Or look up ww2 fake photographs. We helped the communists defeat the Germans you idiot. And now we believe the children of satans crusify him news. Crusify Hitler and help the Bolshavic communist Jews who killed the Romanov family. Rule the world. But the Jew news says Hitler was bad. So we must believe them. The lamp shades ,and soap and pencil boxes made of Jew shin bones . Are you really stupid enough to believe that? Tell the big lie is what Hitler was saying about Americas Jew run media . And they sure did tell the big lie. Maybe we have been brainwashed Beyond return. John 8:44. They know only lies like their father the devil. So help them deceive the world and perpetuate the big lie.

      44. One of the wisest things I have ever read. From the Fleet Street letter many years ago:

        There are two major traditions in Western political thought. The first is Aristotelian, logical, rational, centrist, mechanistic. You concentrate power and truth in the centre and apply it outward, shaping the world according to plan.

        This was the guiding principle of the Roman Empire. It evolved into the Holy Roman Empire and the Church of Rome. Except for Switzerland, it has dominated politics on the continent ever since. Most recently, it has morphed into the European Union.
        The principle is simple – smart people can figure out how to run things, and should be allowed to do so. This was the idea behind Hillary Clinton’s health care task force (and now ObamaCare), as well as Japan, Inc. and even Adolph Hitler’s National Socialist Germany. It has animated nearly every politician (each one of whom, as Garrison Keilor notes about Lake Woebegone children, are above average) in this century.
        But there is another tradition that is much less well understood. It is the tradition of the Roman Republic… of English common law… of Adam Smith and Emmanuel Kant… of Austrian School economists such as Ludwig von Mises and Friedrich Hayek and of pre-Rooseveltian American. It is organic, rather than mechanistic – the tradition of tradition, based on the recognition that people, no matter how smart, cannot replace thousands of years of accumulated experience (remember the “best and the brightest” who led the Vietnam war? Or, wonder where the radical homosexual power move is going to end?)

        Experience is embodied in the evolved systems of values, customs, rules and traditions that people use to order and give meaning to their lives. A free market and a free society allow people to express these preferences, as well as allowing the process of social and civil evolution to continue. This tradition, in other words, is neither liberal nor conservative in the modern sense, but anti-political. Indeed, it is often seen as “anti-intellectual” because it denies the authority of intellectuals to tell the rest of us what to do (through the political process).

        Fleet Street Letter, page 6, date unknown!

      45. Hmmm… isn’t that funny?

        I don’t see any MSM news site on it. The ones with the BIGGEST fake news.

        I guess they can’t have competitors.

      46. So now we have a new list of websites that tell the truth. Thanks, Washington Post!

        They came out with this talking point around the same time Pizzagate and the satanic rituals were revealed. Pretty clever of them – now they can say all that is just “fake news.” It works too, with all but the most informed and insightful. The phrase “conspiracy theory” was no longer working so they had to come up with something else, and not a moment too soon for them.

        I met a man who was an intelligence officer during the Vietnam War, and he said even back then, he learned that when the government comes out with a statement, believe the exact opposite.

      47. Oh maaan… SHTFPlan & Infowars!!!
        Guess we all should be taking what Rachell Maddow & the other MSM talkingheads say as gospel and truth from now on huh.
        GMAFB… Rachel Maddow needs a good forking d!ck!ng… c’mon Yanks, sort her out for Pete’s sake!!! lol.
        You know she’ll light up the smokes for you come morning time!

      48. OUCH!!!
        The Truth always hurts… Pussies cain’t handle the TRUTH.
        Get right with God through Jesus… you’ll never be the same again.
        Thanks be to God in Jesus’ holy name… respect.

      49. COMET PING PONG is looking somewhat pedo!!!ALERT!!!

        You good folks here should play your part in exposing the rot.

        The quadrangle V for Vector FREEMASON NASA symbols complete with the Islamic crescent moon and star should be enough to alarm any right thinking person…

        Get them SHTFPlan… Expose the vile monsters for what they are… SPRIT COOKING CHILD KILLERS.

      50. You have to appreciate the irony of calling uncensored, spin-free media sources ‘sophisticated Russian propaganda tools’ when ABC, NBC, CNN, CBS,and MSNBC have been blatant Marxist propaganda tools for years.

      51. I can’t even get up of my ass without even getting on this all are right something is real wrong with me.. but damn, we are now fake news?. Wtf?.. the main stream media and the cabalist can kiss my ass since I am literally typing away as I sit on the toilet taking a 3 1/2 lbs crap from all the damn left over growth hormone infested turkey. They can kiss my ass before I ever reach to the left for the toilet paper, kiss my do those people think they are… this is why we must keep prepping just incase, something is going to happen guys, I am almost certain of it, I hear some much shit from the scientist that I basically quit posing all of it and now we are hearing that some 30,000 plus assholes plan on crashing the inauguration of Trump, ..and the fact that the Patriots plan on showing up in mass, all over and from what we are hearing from the fake news sites Like ours. And I guess the military will be deployed to make sure that they can contain and take out the patriots possibly?.. it what will really go down? I see a future gun battle coming to our cities in very near future and now we are hearing that 100,000 more Russians just got added.. as one military dude delivered the rat bastards some base up north, now what the fuck is this suppose to mean.


        Molon labe.

        • I’ve been calling these people The LieStream media for years. We all have. We’ve been telling them we’ve got their number. They have not been listening. They’re only on the offense now because they just got their butts handed to them. Now, we are talking the people, everywhere to pull the plug.

      52. I really don’t like it when someone makes unfounded claims. you know Stuff like 100,000 more Russians added at some base up north. Where,s the proof. Unfounded claims can help make the Fake News assertion plausible. If you don’t have all the facts of Who What Where When & How don’t post some rumor. What is the Military dudes name? Where Is the Base? Who Is the scientist friend? What are his credentials. The thing is you shouldn’t believe or take as face value anything you see hear or read on the internet or tv ect. And believe only half of what you see with your very own eyes. A example of seeing something with you very own eyes that’s untrue. You see this stunning babe. Hot body Blonde blue eyes she has got it all going on. You score and get her in the bedroom & get her stripped down. the blond hair is a wig. the teeth are false Take off the padded bra and the boobs sag to her waist. They look like a onion in a panty hose. The girdle was holding in a pot gut with stretch marks and fat ass. and the blue eyes are contacts. What you seen was a stacked blond haired blue eyed Swedish Calendar Girl in her twenties. When in reality it is a 40 year old divorcee in a worn out to 60 year old body.

      53. This isn’t nothing! I’ve been called worse before!

      54. Nobody trusts the msm lies. After all everything said or printed must pass CIA approval before cleared for public consumption. Truth is the push back, pour it on heavily. It is very concerning, the attempt to eliminate open free speech is the citizens ace in the hole to call out the obvious liars.

      55. Interestingly AOL posted the 10 worst cities to in the world to live in . Damascus Syria was #1 and Tripoli Libya was #2 beating out shit holes in Bangladesh and throughout Africa (you know that they’re damn bad). What does Damascus and Tripoli have in common? US intervention. Libya has the highest standard of living in Africa and now its worse than Somalia. The “White Hat” the US once proudly wore apparently fell off into a septic tank some decades ago and was put back on without cleaning it.

      56. I have listened to anti-US propaganda, from different countries, besides just Russia.

        Some of it (actually, much of it) just so happens to be true.

        Many fictions are well-researched. The best lies are 99% truth.

        But, objective morality is universal.

        The issues need not be in furtherance of foreign interests. It need not radicalize you, to hear from different viewpoints. They can be discussed, academically, as in a free marketplace of ideas.

        It might be Russian propaganda.

        If that is so, let it be noted, as such, and carry on with the discussion, when legitimate points are being made.

        If your source is Russian, or just agrees with the Russians, be honest and affable about that.

      57. Old guy it’s like your driving down the street and you see off in the distance this blond head in little shorts then just as you go by she turns around and she is missing teeth and her face is sunk in like a crack addict. Looks good from far but it’s far from good. ?

      58. HAHAHAHAHA! How desperate does one have to be to spew lies so transparent and ridiculous as this? Pretty darn desperate! Right, comrade? Of course one thing the media will never tell you is that Russia is more like the USA used to be when we were looking at Russia as the enemy during the cold war. That is why they are making Russia the enemy because they are the enemy of this crooked cabal of corruptocrats!

        (Secretly, Comrade Slovoski and I, agent Rangerski, are attempting to control your minds!)

        HAHAHAHAHA! I couldn’t type it with a straight face, right Slavoski, er, uh, I Mac.

        Sophisticated Russian Propaganda Tool? LMFAO!!! Forget about rolling your pants up, forget about hip waders, you need a full body male bovine excrement diving suit to swim across this river of BS!

      59. Whois
        It appears that google is directly behind this propaganda or not website.

        IP Address – 353,056 other sites hosted on this server
        IP Location United States – California – Mountain View – Google Inc.
        ASN United States AS15169 GOOGLE – Google Inc., US (registered Mar 30, 2000)

        Domain Status Registered And Active Website
        Whois History 4 records have been archived since 2016-08-21
        IP History 3 changes on 4 unique IP addresses over 0 years
        Registrar History 1 registrar
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        Website Title Russia is Manipulating US Public Opinion through Online Propaganda

        We live in dangerous times indeed!

        The funny thing is just how obvious the main stream media’s propaganda has been, and now they are doing their best to paint those who stand against them as the real propagandists. Truly google and the liberal establishment have gone beyond the pale!

      60. Castro Bodyguard’s Exposé: Luxury, Ladies, Secrecy in Starving Cuba

        Eric Mack  

        A longtime bodyguard of the late Fidel Castro chronicled the Cuban dictator’s life of luxury and ladies as the country starved, the N.Y. Post reported Sunday.

        “While his people suffered, Fidel Castro lived in comfort – keeping everything, including his eight children, his many mistresses, even his wife, a secret,” former bodyguard Juan Reinaldo Sanchez wrote, per the Post, in the book “The Double Life of Fidel Castro: My 17 Years as Personal Bodyguard to El Líder Maximo.”

        Castro, who had relinquished control of Cuba to his brother Raul in 2008, died Friday at age 90. Castro’s death brought renewed attention to his “brutal” regime and “unimaginable suffering,” as President-elect Donald Trump said Saturday….

        Sanchez’s exposé featured an inside look into Castro’s “personal fortune offering safe haven to drug traffickers,” and delving into salacious affairs with “a bevy of women” over decades and a one-time threat to execute Raul because of a bout with alcoholism in the ’90s, according to the Post

        • TEST

          “While his people suffered, Fidel Castro lived in comfort – keeping everything, including his eight children, his many mistresses, even his wife, a secret,”

          Sounds like the standard in Central America and the Caribbean.

      61. ICANN Whois for propornot has the register of the website as “Registration Private” which makes sense. Even if google was behind it, they wouldn’t be stupid enough to let their registration of the domain remain public, would they?

        It is interesting that the search for “whois” on google’s search engine turned up a site that appeared official and showed google to be the registrar.

        What interesting times we live in.

      62. Who’s funding the H8TE-filled anti-Trump rioting?

        Good, short article on the subject here: if you are interested.

        No surprises, just documenting the scam. Some people, like Fidel, are just e-v-i-l. Georgie is another one of those….


        “ placed an ad on Craigslist in New York hiring anti-Trump activists for $18 an hour. The ad said, “We only want protesters under the age of 30. … We prefer minorities.” … Another ad is from the Fund for the Public Interest, the largest fundraiser for progressive causes in the United States. Soros funds many of the umbrella organizations underneath it. The Progressive Unity Fund provides the financial backing for Act Now To Stop War & End Racism (ANSWER) Coalition, which started much of the rioting after the election…

        More on the scam at

        No word yet from Soros if you get paid extra to break windows, hold “rape Melania” signs, or assault people.”

      64. In response to gnat turds copy and pasted ignorant retort that he got from he black lives don’t matter color by numbers book
        Gnat Turd,
        Again your so ignorant and easy to refute. You get your information right from the soros black lives DONT and never will matter color by numbers book. There are more white people in welfare in terms of numbers but not by percentage. Whites outnumber groids. In terms of percentage of population your groids have the highest percentage by race on welfare ( jail too – lol).

      65. And then there’s this quote from Trump’s Aide/Celebrity Apprentice sidekick, Omarosa/Theresa Manigault:

        According to Omarosa: “It’s so great our enemies are making themselves clear so that when we get in to the White House we know where we stand. But let me just tell you, Mr. Trump has a long memory and we’re keeping a list”

        She goes on to say, with a smile: “Every critic, every detractor, will have to bow down to President Trump. It’s everyone who’s ever doubted Mr Trump, who ever disagreed, who ever challenged him. It is the ultimate revenge to become the most powerful man in the universe.” Her words.

        Yes, very positive message and becoming attitude for an incoming POTUS.

        Hope you didn’t say anything negative about him or “lose faith” when he reneged on his first promise, so far, to get Hillary locked up.

        • Jules:

          Just because Amarosa said that doesn’t make it fact. Even if true, is this something Trump told her to say, or is she a traitor, perhaps paid by one of the New York businessmen who want Trump out.

          If Trump said it himself, and I definitely think he never would, it would send chills down my spine. On the other hand, it’s easier to defend oneself against someone coming at you head on than someone pretending to be with you but, you know; with a dagger behind there back.

          Before giving up TV, I saw the show, “The Apprentice”. It is just a show, but Amarosa played her part as a snake. I would not want someone like that working for me. This could be part of a strategy beyond the obvious. Who knows. It’s not nice.

          Why didn’t she put it in a positive way? Like, “Mr. Trump has not failed to see that some people have been loyal to him from the beginning, and others ‘not so much’. Those who have proved their loyalty will be first in line.”

          Sounds like Trump needs a public relations replacement.

          Mike Pompeio, the GMO guy for CIA, concerns me more than Amorosa. Perhaps that’s the real story and Amarosa is a purposeful distraction.


      66. Son your a good example of the saying figures don’t lie but liars figure. The sad fact is that if all the non white folks disappeared from the planet whitey would have a whole lot less problems. If whitey disappeared the remaining would have even a whole lot more problems than before.

      67. Look up the Nashville murders of Chanon Cristianson and Michel Newman if you dare. Some times I wish I didn’t . The hatred for these people will make it easier during the endtimes. So maybe it’s best to know? What they are capable of? That will stop any hesitation?

      68. YouTube movie (documentary)

        “The Bloody History of Communism”

        This rather long movie is filled with important info as it scans through Communism from it’s philosophic beginning, the way Darwin’s theory was used to propell it, and it takes you through the main places where communism took hold.

        I can’t say I necessarily agree with the author, a Koran thumping Fella, in every aspect of his commentary, never the less, he has put it all together very well.

        I recommend this video to all, especially young people. Some of us older folks remember when this stuff was happening in real time.


      69. You need to take this Recount seriously. If the recount is not completed on time (which could be a possibility) then Trump loses the electoral votes for those states and neither he nor HC will have enough votes to win…..THIS WOULD FORCE CONGRESS TO DECIDE.

        The Propornot garbage, as well as all the Fake Non-concern about the recount by people like Obama, is all there to distract and keep people busy while the Recount doesn’t get done. By the time anyone figures it out, it will be too late.

        WHY DO YOU THINK THE HILLARY CAMP, via their useful idiot, Stein, waited so long to do the Recount?

        She is going to steal the Election and SHE IS KEEPING ALL OF YOU DISTRACTED.

        WHY DO YOU THINK this happened with the 200 WEBSITES NOW?

        PLEASE SPREAD THE NEWS….thanks!

        Zero Hedge:

        Is This The Democrats’ Real Strategy In Launching Recounts?

      70. I’m surprised Incogman didn’t make the list? If you want to see a regular movie about what the communists do watch . Eleni. With John Malcovich. Or Doctor Zivago.

      71. There are many reasons the Post is known as the Washington (com)Post in many circles.
        The MSM (mentally sick morons) will not go down without a fight.

      72. When Will The World Wake Up….

        And Realize…

        That These Sick Hideous Satanic Demon Beasts Called “Liberals”

        Are Pure EVIL…

        The Children Of Satan…

        The Only Good Liberal…

        Is an EXTERMINATED ONE !

        PERIOD (.)

        End Of Story…

        Can You Fell The Tensions Rising ?

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