Michael Flynn Charged With Lying To The FBI While Deep State Obama Operative James Clapper Is Allowed to Commit “Brazen Perjury” On National TV

by | Dec 1, 2017 | Conspiracy Fact and Theory | 50 comments

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    In what the entire mainstream media is reporting as a “bombshell”, former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn has been charged with lying to the FBI about a series of legal conversations he had with the Russian ambassador that included talk on how better to take out ISIS.

    “The charging document states that Flynn made a false statement to the FBI when he stated that in December 2016 he did not ask Kislyak “to refrain from escalating the situation in response to sanctions that the United States had imposed against Russia that same day; and Flynn did not recall the Russian ambassador subsequently telling him that Russia had chosen to moderate its response to those sanctions as a result of his request,” reported CNN.

    In comparison, Obama and deep state operative James Clapper has committed open perjury multiple times over the years and literally nothing has happened to him. I guess being a globalist operative has its perks.

    As Paul Joseph Watson reported:

    During testimony in 2013 in front of a congressional inquiry, Clapper was asked by Senator Ron Wyden if the NSA was collecting “any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans.”

    “No, sir,” responded Clapper.

    Senator Wyden asked “It does not?”

    Director Clapper responded “Not wittingly. There are cases where they could inadvertently perhaps collect, but not wittingly.”

    This was proven to be completely fraudulent three months later when whistleblower Edward Snowden revealed that the NSA was deliberately collecting tens of millions of Americans’ phone call records as well as browsing histories, chat logs, email usage, as well as their physical locations.

    Clapper would have had a level of security clearance to know that this was taking place. He committed clear perjury by lying under oath, yet faced no consequences at all.

    That’s right, there is clear and obvious evidence that Clapper broke the law and committed perjury yet he remains untouched by anyone within the FBI. This is clear bias on the part of the Federal Bureau of Investigations and should be immediately investigated.

    “In summary, it appears that lying under oath is perfectly acceptable if you’re a member of the deep state, and Clapper, unlike General Flynn, is enjoying the privilege of having that special distinction.”

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      50 Comments

      1. liar liar pants on fire, but hey the FBI is even more crooked?

        • The only things the parasites and their lackies do consistently, are lying and murdering.

          • When are the Clintons going to be investigated and charged for all their crimes? Until that happens, none of this matters at all to me.

        • Didn’t killary lie to the FBI about her email? Guess the FBI, Comey and the rest, were not worried about lying then.

      2. The citizenry of the USA exercises little if any more independent political control over their government than the citizens of the USSR did in 1970. Much of the political theatre of the masses seen on TV is in reality not grassroots coming from them but rather orchestrated from the very establishment that these protestors officially loathe.

        “All the world is a stage”
        William Shakespeare

        • “What luck for rulers that men do not think”

          Adolph Hitler.

          • “Mankind is too stupid to be free, it never has been nor will ever be”.

            Genius.

            • “You can lead a sheep to knowledge but you cannot make it think”

              Genius.

              • “Libturds are too retarded to be free, they never have been nor will ever be.” “You can lead a libturd to knowledge but you can’t make it think.” Braveheart

            • “Mankind is too stupid….”

              A true philosophy of obscurantism and nihilism. Sorry, don’t buy it, even if it IS true that many, many fit into that category. Exhibit A that mankind is not too stupid: The Founding Fathers of the USA. But when people dump God, as Chesterton said, men don’t believe in nothing, but *anything.* That, mon ami, is where man becomes “stupid.”

              • That refers to the whole of mankind, and yes, they ARE stupid! For instance… this is the greatest information age EVER and the vast majority of people choose to be as STUPID and IGNORANT as POSSIBLE! When has man EVER been free? Care to answer that?

                • in Christ 🙂

                • Sure. As Grandee noted, in Christ, both personally, as well as to greater or lesser extent, corporately. E.g., who was the seminal actor in ending slavery? Do you know? Let me help: It was William Wilberforce, aided and abetted by John Newton (of Amazing Grace fame). In the US, the abolitionists were virtually all Christian. The US War of Independence was also a bright spot.

                  But, I DO agree with your broader point. The world is fallen, and will not be fully redeemed until the return of Christ. In 1 John 5:19. the Bible concurs with you, noting “We know that we are from God, and the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.” In a nutshell, the world is NOT free, as you note – which is EXACTLY why Christ came. Jesus directly addressed your concern, stating “The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free…” (Luke 4:18) or as St. Paul put it in Romans “We know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until the present time. Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies.…”

                  So, mon ami, that is my answer. You DO have the right diagnosis; there is also a remedy that needs to be taken on individually, and when enough individuals take that remedy, cultures are changed. Many historians state the US War of Independence was ONLY possible due to the First Great Awakening; similarly, a century or so later, a revival in Wales literally left the police with NOTHING to do, as people stopped their criminal activity, drunken-ness, etc. These are certainly intimations of the freedom that can be had

                • I did answer. Not yet posted. Hopefully it will be soon. But to add to that, I am no utopian. And the tree you are barking up basically corroborates what is articulated in the first chapters of Genesis, through to Revelation: viz., that man is fallen (used to be called original sin, but now no one understands what that means, or thinks it has something to do with sex, which it does not). So in that sense, you have an important germ of truth. But neither am I a cynic, a pessimist, or a nihilist. There is a continuum between absolute slavery and absolute freedom. The latter will never be achieved this side of God’s Heaven. However, I would submit to you that the people who lived during the time of the American Founding Fathers and just after that were a HECK of a lot more free than we are today. The goal for all of us here is to bring as much freedom as we can to this world, in the hope that, as the Apostle Paul wrote, “For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God. We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption to sonship, the redemption of our bodies.”

                  Again, there is a clear germ of truth you cite. However, if, e.g., the Founding Fathers were as cynical as you, we would still be serfs (granting that we are – in the post-Christian world – heading back that direction again).

                  For me I will continue to fight for freedom in this world, knowing it will be relative; then I will look for complete freedom – including from my OWN fallen nature – in the next world.

          • what luck for the NRA that members cant think?

            • I think and I’m a LIFE NRA MEMBER. You believe that I’m ignorant?

              The NRA operates in the realm of pragmatic reality. Without the NRA we would be at a minimum Australia / Canada. Marion Hammer championed “Shall Issue” in 1987, look where we are today. The Clinton Assault Gun Ban of 1994 had an NRA last minute 10 year expiration put in. A decade later, thanks to an altered political environment that law faded into history.

              • the NRA likes background checks and govt permission. rights dont require govt permission. that is why so many people with minor convictions or pissed off wives cant exercise their rights

              • ignorant does not equal cant think. you made my point thanks?. cant think means you have the facts but are incapable of a logical or useful conclusion that can be put into a winning action

              • Kevin2…BINGO!

              • Thank the NRA for 1986 NFA act.

                • The Firearms Ownership Protection Act was a necessity. The last minute NJ Congressman put in the Hughes Amendment which froze new full auto registrations. You take the good with the bad.

              • I, too, am a NRA member. The professors that passed me for my two graduate degrees, at Univ. of Illinois and Univ. of British Columbia, would probably beg to disagree with you Gandhi.

              • ignorant does not equal cant think. thanks for makng my point that you cant understand?

              • now my question is: what good is a fact if wrong conclusions are derived? and how would an idiot know if a wrong conclusion were derived?. and if a wrong conclusion was derived and an idiot did not know it then would he keep making the same mistake over and over? and if one makes the same mistake over and over but expects a different result would he not be considered insane? therefore NRA members are insane because their ideology is not working except to make them more money from the insane.

              • i think the NRAs basic premiss of obeying the laws of an immoral corrupt govt is insane.

              • I’m not so sure the NRA’s calculus on gun control has been completely accurate.

                Serious Mistakes have been made.

                We can do better.

                • Without the NRA we would be the UK at worst, at least Canada or Australia.

            • Did you, by chance, used to post under the name Philosopher

              • That post directed at Ghandi.

        • You know, considering the state of the FBI and its head of the Bureau at the time, I would dare say that lying to them was an act of patriotism.

        • May be true Kev… but look at where the USSR ended up. Von Mises wrote about this in Human Action, as did Hayek in Road to Serfdom, and they predicted the USSR would fall notwithstanding their current at the time near hegemony over the world.

          Why? It is, as Roman satirist Juvenal wrote 2,000 years ago (may or may not be ipsissima verba): “You can drive nature out with a pitchfork, but still she will return.” Of course the elite think they can control even nature, and human nature as well. Question: are they, themselves, not part of human nature? What *mechanism* do they have to stand outside of human nature to manipulate it? Can a person lift himself up by his own bootstraps?

          This is one reason I am a Christian. If it is true God has spoken, then I have the ONE thing that stands outside of the universe, and can *independently* critique me, and my presuppositions, from a vantage point outside of my, or humanity’s, necessarily almost solipsist worldview. Sure, I can misinterpret what God is saying will be one rebuttal. But again, if in fact, as philosopher Francis Schaeffer wrote (and whom everyone should read, IMHO), “he is there, and he is not silent,” then even that, too, can be addressed by Him.

          • TEST

            While the citizens in Russia have more personal freedom they still don’t control their government regarding the Foreign Affairs & Economy either.

            • Very true, Kev. But my main point is that the effort to control human natural is finally and ultimately fatally doomed in that, as Hayek and Mises said, even all the supercomputers in the world cannot account for human economic action. Further, humans seeking to control everything are, ipso facto, *part* of the human nature they are seeking to overcome. I don’t see how one can levitate oneself into the air by pulling on one’s own bootstraps. Finally, the fact of God, who does engage in time and space. As noted before, CS Lewis’ (“the smartest man at Cambridge”) looked at this from his work That Hideous Strength. The elite today are, IMHO, exactly the same as those toying with the “macrobes” in his work. I.e., they are engaged – just like Hitler found out, with all his brilliant Ph.D scientists – with something far, far beyond their ken, and will take them to a literal final perdition without any metanoia on their part.

              But yes, as you noted, the Russians still don’t control their govt, although the arc of freedom has gone upwards to a degree for them. The battle for freedom is one that will continue in this fallen world until the return of Christ.

              • I don’t think that there is a nation of size on the earth where its citizens actually control their government.

        • umm actually the corporations run your a$$

      3. Kevin2, agreed. Interesting that you mention Shakespeare. I have a leather-bound copy of all his works. The deep state needs to be destroyed.

      4. Clapper is a long time evil demon, another of his ilk is Bolton.

        • “Ilk” is a good word as it allows you to insult multiple people at the same time.

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      5. “Where there is no law, there is no liberty; and nothing deserves the name of law but that which is certain and universal in its operation upon all the members of the community.”
        —Benjamin Rush (1788)

        • “The more moral a society is, the freer it is”
          The less moral a society is, the less free it is.

          Anarchy is REAL freedom but mankind is too irresponsible, greedy, powerhungry, stupid, etc. to handle it. Manmade laws are slavery. The only law you need is NATURAL LAW.

      6. Look at the picture above of this man’s face. Or look at folks like Hilary, or Bill. Take a deep look. I think it was Lincoln who said any man over 40 is responsible for his own face. Do YOU want to have this haunted, empty look of a person who is now just a shell of what was once human?

        Quod erat demonstrandum.

        • No wonder lincoln looks like shit, he deserves it!

      7. Aljamo, Bolton would go to war with his own mother.

      8. Genius,
        Re; Freedom…

        Many years ago while raising a young family…my daughter then 12 yo…
        responded to my request to, “go clean your room” with….”I’ll be glad when I am
        18 yo and can be my own boss”. I said, “Honey, if you have less than
        20 bosses by that time..consider yourself lucky. And if you have kids….you will never
        be free! Freedom is not what you think it is.”

      9. Clapper was a yes man and an idiot along with the former head of CIA. Everything is now political.

        • Jim in Va

          “Everything is now political.”

          I think its been like that for quite a while but thanks to both their overreach like Iraq, Libya and bogus economic reports along with the Internet “We The People” (at least those interested) are waking up. Any large agglomeration of money is the fertile ground for corruption and with it unethical / illegal behavior.

      10. The lying media are going crazy of Flynn with lying and misleading statements. President Trump is the one that fired him for lying in the first place. If the president had any fear that Flynn may say something to incriminate the President he would not have fired him.

      11. Eight years of Bammy Obutthole breaking laws, breaking
        Constutional laws and protocol, acting as judge, jury, and
        “king extraordinaire” with nary a peep from demoncraps
        or GOP Hippocrates.
        Deep State controlled, Anti-American,
        Uni-Party, Nazi, basTurds ran everything until Pres. Trump
        came along and knocked them all off their game.

        There are a few true Republicans who care about us and
        our country whom are not taking the “Bribe” to destroy
        this country, but they are only a powerless few.

        Those same people now want to cozy up to Pres. Trump.
        They are nothing but “Judases” and “Trojan Horses”.

        We must expose them as best we can. But for the love
        of God, don’t trust or believe them!!!

      12. The Citizens realize what is going on …

        Shoppers hunting for Black Friday deals seemed to include a record number of those in the market for firearms; the FBI says it fielded 203,086 background check requests for gun purchases on the day after Thanksgiving — the highest daily total ever, reports USA Today.

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