Love Affair Fades? Russia’s “Growing Concern That Trump Less Friendly Than First Thought”

by | Feb 21, 2017 | Aftermath, Conspiracy Fact and Theory | 60 comments

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    Image: Putin, via / Trump, via Gage Skidmore, Flickr CC2.0

    This article was written by Michael Snyder and originally published at the Economic Collapse blog.

    Editor’s Comment: Just when it seemed that cooler heads would prevail, and that death and destruction were less certain with new leadership, it seems that larger events are driving the new administration, and the reaction from Russia, back to a difficult and tense place. The world remains on the brink, and the powers that be have a larger agenda in the works – no one leader, cowboy or KGB boss alone can stop it. The “deep state” took out Gen. Flynn for his talk of repealing sanctions and establishment (more) friendly relations, and for fear of Trump’s boasts and attempts to do the same. And they will not stop there. Subterfuge, embedded deep government puppets, tools and operatives are all deep at work.

    The larger war, the larger society build on fear and conflict, means big money, huge blocks of power, and a control over matters that elections alone could never undo, and no leader has yet unraveled or disintegrated.

    It remains to be seen what will happen, and whether or not the petrodollar, oil prices or personal politics will spill over into violence, stalemate, or further escalation. But one thing is clear, there will be no straight shot deal – President Trump, his administration, and the rest of everyone in the game on both the American and Russian sides will have to very carefully weigh all options, and strive for the most beneficial and least destructive outcome. Meanwhile, a serious routing of moles, leakers and establishment lackeys needs to take place. If Trump doesn’t get them, they may get him, and Putin, all riled up.

    If there is enough confusion, no one will later remember what non-sense stirred things up, but only that things reach a point of no return.

    The Russian Love Affair With Donald Trump Sours As The U.S. And Russia Move Toward War

    by Michael Snyder

    In recent months Donald Trump has been severely criticized by both Democrats and Republicans for not being sufficiently “anti-Russia”, but the truth is that the Trump administration has not been working hard enough to repair a relationship that is now souring very rapidly.  When Donald Trump won the election in November, the Russians celebrated tremendously, because they greatly preferred Trump over Hillary Clinton.  But just because Trump was victorious does not mean that our relationship with Russia will automatically improve.  Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin both have huge egos, and it is quite easy to imagine a scenario in which things between them go very, very badly.

    In fact, we may already be starting to see such a scenario play out.  As you will see below, under President Trump U.S. troops are being deployed to a very sensitive area of Poland, and they are also being sent to key areas of Bulgaria and Romania.  That is not sitting well with the Russian government, but they were much more upset when Trump insisted that Russia must give the Crimea back to Ukraine.  This is something that the Russians would never do, and they were quite stunned that Trump would even suggest such a thing.

    On the flip side, the Pentagon was quite annoyed when Russian fighter jets buzzed a U.S. warship in the Black Sea just a few days ago, and when a Russian spy ship set up shop just off the coast of Connecticut recently, President Trump told Secretary of State Rex Tillerson that “the greatest thing I could do is shoot that ship that’s 30 miles off shore right out of the water”.

    When I first heard about that quote I thought it might be “fake news”, but it was actually reported by ABC News and a whole host of other prominent news outlets.

    I know that Trump doesn’t have much of a filter, and that is a good thing when he is dealing with the mainstream media, but it can be a very, very bad thing for foreign policy.

    Look, you may think that it is a good idea to blow a Russian spy ship out of the water, but you never, ever say such a thing out loud.

    The Russians think like mobsters.  That means that they are quite paranoid, and it also means that they take whatever you say very, very seriously.

    In a few days, most of us living in the United States will completely forget what Trump said about that Russian spy ship, but over in Russia they will remember this quote forever.

    This is just how the Russians operate – they never forget, and they never, ever forgive.

    When you are dealing with Russia, you have got to be very, very careful.  Unfortunately, being cautious is not one of Trump’s strengths, and the wild optimism about Trump in Russia is now being replaced by disappointment and anger

    The new U.S. president has been in his role for just under a month, taking office in a transition that has been marked by chaos and missteps. And already, from the right of the political spectrum to the marginalized Russian left, a mixture of disappointment with the new U.S. president — who came into office promising to remake relations between the two countries — and a sense of vindication that Trump couldn’t be trusted after all has crept into Russian political chatter.

    “Is Trump already out of fashion?” the independent Russian journal Russkaya Fabula asked on Wednesday — the same day that the Trump administration was dealing with the fallout stemming from revelations about National Security Advisor Mike Flynn’s conversations with the Russian ambassador. The site pointed to a small demonstration by hard-line nationalists this week, which picketed a major state-run news outlet and demanded the end of the “cult of Trump” in Russian media.

    And in a sign of how far things have already deteriorated, Putin has ordered state media over in Russia to cut back on their coverage of Trump

    The Kremlin ordered state media to cut back on their fawning coverage of President Donald Trump, reflecting a growing concern among senior Russian officials that the new US administration will be less friendly than first thought, three people familiar with the matter said.

    Just before Trump took office, Barack Obama aggressively moved U.S. troops toward the Russian border, and I highly criticized him for that.

    So now that Trump is doing the exact same thing, I have to be critical of him as well.  Somebody needs to tell Trump that stationing 1,000 U.S. troops in northeastern Poland is not going to help our relationship with Putin…

    The US Army’s Europe headquarters located in Wiesbaden, Germany announced late Saturday that 1,000 US troops and their vehicles would be sent to northeastern Poland at the end of March.

    The unit – part of 4,000 US troops being deployed in rotation along NATO’s eastern flank  under its “Atlantic Resolve” mission – will be located at Orzysz.

    That particular Polish city is less than 90 miles from the extremely sensitive Russian city of Kaliningrad.

    If I was Trump, this is something that I would not have done.

    At this point, the Russians are not quite sure what to make of Trump.  In fact, they have even gone so far as to prepare a “psychological dossier” on him to help Putin prepare for his first meeting with Trump…

    A dossier on Donald Trump’s psychological makeup is being prepared for Russian President Vladimir Putin.

    Among its preliminary conclusions is that the new American leader is a risk-taker who can be naïve, according to a senior Kremlin adviser.

    Unfortunately, Trump tends to listen to those in his immediate vicinity, and in Washington he is surrounded by war hawks that absolutely hate Russia.  The following comes from Pat Buchanan

    The anti-Putin paranoia here is astonishing.

    That he is a killer, a KGB thug, a murderer, is part of the daily rant of John McCain. At the Munich Security Conference this last weekend, Sen. Lindsey Graham promised, “2017 is going to be a year of kicking Russia in the a– in Congress.”

    Members of Congress such as John McCain and Lindsey Graham are playing a very dangerous game.

    It is okay to be critical of Russia, but if you are constantly making inflammatory statements all the time that is just going to push us toward war.

    And as I explained in my latest book, we do not want a war with Russia.

    For years, the Russian military has been laser-focused on preparing for a war with the United States, while at the same time the U.S. military has been primarily focused on fighting wars in the Middle East.

    So the Russians have been working very hard to upgrade their strategic nuclear arsenal, and at this point their arsenal is far superior to ours.  The following comes from an article that I came across earlier today

    Russia is constantly improving its nuclear deterrence and is very close to deploying new technologically-advanced intercontinental ballistic missiles which can defeat any US missile defense systems, a Russian deputy prime minister said in an interview.

    “These weapons will soon appear in our armed forces,” Dmitry Rogozin told Rossiya-1 TV on Sunday. While not naming the new ICBM, the deputy PM in charge of the defense industry said the missile will have the capacity to penetrate any American air defenses.

    “These weapons are able to clear the United States’ missile defense both of today and of tomorrow – and even of the day after tomorrow,” Rogozin said.

    Meanwhile, the U.S. continues to rely on weapons systems that were developed in the 1960s and 1970s.

    The Russians are a very dangerous foe, and it is in our national interest to try to have a positive relationship with them.

    There are going to be times when we strongly disagree with what the Russians are doing, but our interactions with them should always be focused on trying to avoid a nuclear conflict.

    So yes, we should let the Russians know when we are upset about something, but constantly making provocative and incendiary statements is a recipe for disaster.

    Hopefully our leaders will start to realize this very soon, because right now our relationship with Russia is deteriorating very rapidly.

    This article was written by Michael Snyder and originally published at the Economic Collapse blog.

    GetPreparedNow-MichaelSnyderBarbaraFixMichael T. Snyder is a graduate of the University of Florida law school and he worked as an attorney in the heart of Washington D.C. for a number of years.

    Today, Michael is best known for his work as the publisher of The Economic Collapse Blog and The American Dream

    If you want to know what is coming and what you can do to prepare, read his latest book [amazon text=Get Prepared Now!: Why A Great Crisis Is Coming & How You Can Survive It&asin=150522599X].


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      1. Calling all stock market bashers! Just kidding, it’s been a hell of a good ride over recent times. Not sure about you all but our other investments have been sucking wind.
        If you have been in the market a while with dividend paying stocks you are maintaining your base while making good income. Left to my own devices I would have probably bought more 25 dollar silver. A balance is still a good thing.

        • MP Butler;
          Yes that is a very to the point presentation. I like metal an have some.

      2. Don’t know if it’s against protocol, but I wish POTUS would consider discussions and advice from Senator Rand Paul. I really admire Senator Paul, he speaks very calmly, appears to keep his head on straight, and is very knowledgeable and makes a lot of sense. He’s also very adept at handling the media. I thought we were not going to have to worry about a showdown with Russia once HRC lost the election. Hope POTUS isn’t bending down to the warmongers.

        • Dr Rand Paul was my first choice for POTUS.

          • It is a Fact the MSM, NeoCommies, NeoCons, NATO, John McCain, CIA, MICM, Military Industrial Complex Mafia, Lindsey Graham, Israel and Elite Globalists would love for the US to be in WW3 with Russia and will do everything to invoke a conflict including, killing all Russian Ambassadors, daily hate propaganda, stirring up conflicts, etc.

            If Trump says one thing nice about Russia, all these ASSHATS listed above, will claim Trump is having sex with Putin on a daily basis. The Lies are getting that bad. So Trump is putting on his poker face and doing what he needs to do. He has a lot on his plate and does not need WW3 right now. Trump flat out tweeted “the MSM, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN & NY Times are the all enemies of Americans. They have no interest for America or Americans to succeed or for peace and prosperity. Its all Hate and War, Conflict and Chaos. Those distractions, allows these ASSHATS to keep their positions and monopolies. Trump is not letting that happen, thus Russia is the new boogie man.

            • Off Topic. DO NOT CALL LIST: Getting tired of Solicitation Cold calls to your house or Cell phone??? Go to this Gov site and register all your phone numbers to be put on the DO NOT CALL LIST:>

              If after 31 days, if you keep getting solicitation calls you can sue the caller.

        • Waiting, I agree. Those troops need to be pulled out of Eastern Europe, at least back to Germany. Some neocon POS is obviously feeding Trump some BS. I fell out of my chair when I heard Trump call for the return of Crimea to Ukraine. Not necessarily standing up for the Russians, but I think they can make more of a claim to Crimea since they’ve had a community there going back to the 18th century. There are more Russians in Crimea than anyone else, especially in Sevastopol, which is home to their Black Sea fleet. No way they’ll give up Crimea. Putin is even having a combined car and railway bridge being built across the Kerch Strait from mainland Russia to Crimea. He’s already had electrical power gully restored to Crimea after Ukraine cut them off and even having a couple of natural gas pipelines put into Crimea. Putin has also increased the Russian military presence there since last summer. He’s playing for keeps. His biggest reason for keeping Crimea is that it has strategic value. With his sea and air bases he can dominate the entire Black Sea.

      3. As long as they stay on their playground, what do we care what any other Country does.

        I’m starting my own party with me as dictator. No more wars anywhere with anybody. No more invasion tolerated. If you mess with us, we wipe you off the map. Otherwise, it’s all good.



      4. always gotta have a boogyman

        such an old and tired mantra

      5. With all these people dropping dead, POTUS might want to consider getting a food taster. Never really know why that Russian spy ship was off the US coast. Like the article said… a dangerous foe……never forget….and they never ever forgive.

        • Screaming about a Russian “spy ship” as though USA never does anything like that.

          These people are all butthurt because, for years, only USA could trespass on and invade other countries at will. Seems that some countries are willing to challenge that notion, and dare USA to do something about it.

          Bullies really hate it when a tougher bully comes along.

      6. Oh no, the bromance is over? Poor Pootie Poot.

      7. NATO 90 miles from Kalingrad. Baltic patrols within sight of Russian coastline. Carl Vinson carrier group to the South China sea. Syria, Iran, Afganistan, Ukraine, N Korea…it is time to stop the first strike push.

        • Reminds me of ” War Pigs ” . Old Black Sabbath song.

          • Yeah but, in that song “no more war pigs have the power”, here in the real world they still have the power.

        • Read earliest today, pentagon suspects an exotic nuke may have been tested in the arctic in DEC. Or Jan. Apparently low yield. Perhaps a neutron or salted bomb. Any body else heard of this?

          • @ Khemp..DO SOME HOMEWORK..
            The PENTAGRAM is full of shit..
            Do some homework!
            Russia uses low yield nuke generators in every LIGHTHOUSE in the arctic, and has about 60 OLD, NUKE powered ships and subs rotting in their slips throughout the Kara, Barents,and Laptev SEAS…
            Stop being brainwashed by thus FOUL/LYING/WARMONGERING “government”.
            Carry On,

      8. Same old stuff.

        just keep prepping!!!


        • Hardly..
          Yeah.. keep prepping for an all-out FIRST STRIKE NUKE ATTACK..
          Good Luck,

          • Guuny
            You and I both know that a first strike by either side mean TEOWASKI!
            Most of us won’t survive it and if we do are we going to be the lucky ones?????
            Can you say got iodine pills????

            • @Sarg…
              MY “TEOTWAWKI” already occurred when my beautiful 20 year old daughter Jessica DIED of GARDASIL INDUCED CERVICAL CANCER 10 days after her 20th birthday on Christmas Eve 2013. — Jessica D – 12/16/1993-12/24/2103. – RIP.

              So… I really don’t give a shit if this foul, diseased, sicko hologram of the great nation I grew up in and served gets GLASSED OVER and frankly, the SOONER the BETTER starting with Washington DC, New York, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Fransisco and Seattle (my home town)!

              BTW.. I SWEAR I will personally “school” every Board member of Merck Pharma before I go out..
              I have located them all…They all reside in Palo Alto California and 7 of 12 are WOMEN!

              Carry On,

      9. I used to like reading Michael Snyder articles but lately he has had an anti-trump slant to his articles. Im not a total trump stooge either but the quote about blowing the ship out of the water was not the way Snyder made it out to be. I watched that full news conference later that day and he said thats what the media would want him to do. He said if he did that he would be a hero. I think Snyder has run out of ideas and he is just writing articles for the sake of writing articles.

        • You Nailed it James, Michael Snyder is ALL ABOUT HIMSELF and Self-Promotion and selling his sensationalized books. Go to his website and see for yourself. I am not sure why Mac here, even promotes Snyder or his articles, as Snyder does NOT in ANYWAY reciprocate in kind, or provides Links to SHTFPlan on his EcBog site. Snyder is self indulged BS’s. Just stirring up the Pot for self promotion. I don’t know anybody on this SHTF Site that even likes M Snyder or his articles, so why does Mac promote his articles here which are mostly nonsense. I’d cut him off and get back to Prepping and more articles about Off Grid and Self sustainment. That kind of Prepping info is how to beat the American Haters and Globalists, and not by feeding into this Hate Mongering BS from Snyder. Stop giving Snyder a platform. Just like Trump cuts off the MSM. Same deal.

          • I will also add, that articles like this above do not make people want to click the add links on the side of the web page. That’s why only 25 people comment on articles like this which are mostly in disagreement with the article writer. People are sick of these kind of Hate Trump articles. If MAC would allow each advertiser write a prepping article on their products basically for the benefits of the advertiser, I am sure more people would click the links and buy something. Convince me why I would need to buy a gas mask, or gas stabilizer, or why to buy remote land, or long term food storage, etc. These hate articles do NOT provide any direct purpose to click any add, and in fact these articles like this drive people away, since it is all based on hate.

            Maybe Mac can take this advice and get back to what original drew people to this site. Prepping and self sustainment. Just my take, as I am a marketing guy. Identify your audience. No clicks = No revenue. Businesses need to maximize their dollar add effectiveness.

            • Zeus, I DO have a hard time staying awake when reading a Snyder article.

          • You should read the comments section of his articles. ROTGLMAO

        • Michael Snyder is Mr. doom and gloom, the boy who cried wolf. One day he might be right, but it won’t be today.

        • James – I understood Trump’s statement about the Russian ship exactly the same way: that is what the press wants him to say.

      10. Во-первых Америка!

        Is that really so hard for russians to understand?

      11. Do not f with Russia. The big reason is this: they have totally prepared for being hit with a first strike. That is their assumption and thus they have shelters and deadhand switches all over the place. All their military is EMP protected. They assume all modern wars are nuke wars and thus everything is around that.

        They also know America would turn into the biggest pussy nation ever to have existed if it just lost one city to a retaliatory strike. Now, imagine if it came in waves?

        • “They also know America would turn into the biggest pussy nation ever to have existed if it just lost one city to a retaliatory strike”
          If the city is a Democrat run city e.g. LA, DC, NYC Chicago, Honolulu, Denver, Boston, (you get the idea), I’ll ship a check off to Moscow, with a thank you card.

          • Rellik, I’d be satisfied if they only took out the UN, Wall St., Hollywood, CITY OF LONDON [ROTHSCHILDS]. Solve a lot of problems.

        • FT, I agree wholeheartedly. But I’m afraid your message is totally lost on the neocon scum. They’ve been on crackpipes for way too long. I just wish everyone would step back and stop and think before doing anything. Trump still needs to have a meeting with Putin at some point. Let’s all hope cooler heads prevail.

      12. Truth is, we never ended the war that started when Archduke Ferdinand was shot June 28, 1914 (or,really, for that matter, since Cain killed Abel). WWI led directly to WWII of course, and then to the Cold War. However, Europe, still smarting from the MILLIONS lost in the unnecessary first war, then create the Council of Europe in 1949, which led ultimately to today’s EU, which is pretty much exactly what Hitler wanted (fascism, as it is strictly defined as the merger of the socialist state with co-opted, crony big biz). Heck, instead of ubermenschen Aryans, we even have the new ubermenschen, the banksters and elite!

        And of course, Lenin and the USSR can be traced back to that sealed train that sent him back to Russia to take them out of the war.

        IMHO, the Cold War may have ended around 1990 or so, but not the European geopolitical stuff that still continued to simmer. Seems to me, a lot of this can all be traced back, at least in terms of an **immediate** cause (i.e., it was the occasion, not the ultimate cause) to that fateful day in June, 1914.

        Not too long after that other harbinger of the modern age, the Titanic, showed that man’s “brilliance” is not always so brilliant, but rather, as as Horace said (65 – 8 BC), “you can drive nature out with a pitchfork, she will nevertheless come back.” I’m no Luddite, but on the other hand, man who lives in the delusion that he is God (think “singularity” here!) is sadly mistaken.

        • A big part of Europe’s pusified non-response to the muslim hordes can be traced to having a large percentage of their Alpha males killed off in two world wars.

          Conditions in USSR/Russia tend to weed out Beta males.

          • And the pusified us-males allow blacks and mexicans to rape their women since the 60s.

            Meanwhile the russians keep sending their girls to work in the brothels of the world.

      13. Ah but the beer’s still ice cold! For that I am grateful.

      14. When do the H8TE-filled leftists’ campus firebombings start?


        Excellent article today from Maggie Gallagher at

        If you don’t have time to read the article, here’s one gem from the leftist brownshirts: “…afterwards the college newspaper published at least five commentaries from Berkeley students and alums condoning the violence on the grounds that letting Milo speak is an act of violence. “Violence helped ensure safety of students,” an essay by one Berkeley student was headlined (clearly, not a logic major! Thankfully, he will probably end up as one of Lenin’s useful idiots, graduating with $100k in debt to finance his degree in 18th C. Belgian Lesbian Musicology)

        Reminiscent of the old 1960s “We had to destroy the village to save it,” (which, BTW, it came out later was fake news from the left during Vietnam), or perhaps Hitler’s response after the Gleiwitz, claiming GERMANY was attacked by poor Poland. Or maybe like leftist Herbert Marcuse’s “repressive tolerance” theory of modern progressives. “Liberating tolerance would mean intolerance against movements from the right and toleration of movements from the left. Certain things cannot be said, certain ideas cannot be expressed, certain policies cannot be proposed.”

        H8TE and violence. The specialty of the left, and in business since Robespierre in 1793!!

      15. FYI…The USA has MURDERED 5 TOP LEVEL Russian Ambassadors in just 12 months.
        Putin already said:
        “Once is bad luck, twice is a coincidence, 3 TIMES IS AN ATTACK”.
        I would be prepping for all out FIRST STRIKE NUKE ATTACK or an EMP within the next 10 days.
        Russia will NOT be intimidated and has China on their side as well.
        When you are starving in the cold, or melting in your shoes.. BLAME EVERY TRAITOR in DC with your last breath!
        E-7 Ret.

        • Damn CIA!

        • Damn that CIA!

        • China is NOT on Russia’s side and the Russians know it. Same as USA/USSR in WWII. An uneasy alliance

          • @ NUFFINS..You need to do some homework Sir..
            Yes, they are… China and Russia share a 2000 mile border, share/trade currency, started the BRICS bank together, share/trade military tech, share/trade energy resources.. etc.
            I would say they are better “friends” than the USA is with either country.
            Carry On,


        Guys I am getting ready to go work out waiting on my honey to get home and you guys are still at it.. Then may I ask, what the fuck is Russian troops doing in the US. We are fighting Russians in Syria. Using bad jihadist, outright Lawless and cold blooded murder. Yet we are being told that something is coming down with Russia. We are being played and Russia and the US is working to reduce the population with war. The trick to keep the people believing. That we are enemies when in fact keeping wars going to end up with rb unit late war, ww3 will. Reduce the populations by 90%. You see you fucking cabalist bastards may not knowing that people like me are on to this bullshit..Russian answers to the Rothschild Banking family and so does the queen.. We are being set up with the same bullshit. Rebranded under Donald Trump. And could this be possible, he said to make America better again, but we must must have war with Russia and China and IRAN.. Am I missing something or am I being too paranoid thinking that Trump may be fooling us ? Could this be possible.. I must keep my mind open and will get more info from my scientific buddy who has promised me that nothing has changed. And they we are being laughed at by th cabal and that we will all be dead between now and 2019, if things don’t change. I support Trump. But I must keep my mind open to the fact that he may not be what we think he is and the cabal is laughing at us, and have bad plans and is working with Trump to make things looks good only to get the living Fuck EMP’ed our asses and plunge right into SHTF and without any warning, the BUTTCRACKOFDOOM right into our faces?.. Or is my mind playing tricks on me and i need to let the president turn the country around.
        Because of what I know. I will continue to prep. No one saved my sorry ass when I was homeless and I asked God to help me, I got help and then relief from stress came in the form a a woman… God is all we have to rely on there days and our preps. Damn my girlfriend is here, gotta run..


        Then again. ?. This may not be the case or is it?.

        • HCKS
          You Idea is just as good as anyone else.

          I’m giving Trump some time before I change my mind about him.

          For me If there is a war to reduce population what country has the most population? Answer China 1.4+ billion. then India 1.3+ billion. So if you wanted to reduce the population wouldn’t you start wit these two countries. The USA is third with 3.25 Million. Indonesia 2.6 Million and them Brazil 2.1 Million. So if there is a war to reduce population these top 5 countries could be the hardest hit.

          I’ll do everything I can to Keep the Population up here in the USA if we are invaded. No more fathering any but I will fight like hell to keep as many of our population alive as I can.


      17. Trump has never said he denied that Russia was no longer a major threat to the U.S and that he and Putin had a special relationship when he has never met the person.

        But Putin has said that it is his desire to rebuild The Former Soviet Union which would require a Russian invasion of all The Eastern European Countries once under The Soviet Control TO INCLUDE PRESENT DAY GERMANY which was divided by The Allies at the end of WWII with The Russians controlling nearly 1/2.

        Remember The Berlin wall?

        In regard to the Russian spy ship off our coast in international waters; more cold war type activity and probably in response to Nato activity near its borders.

        And will probably start hearing more reports of Russian Nato Code name “BEAR” long range reconnaissance Tu-95
        aircraft flying off the east coast of the U.S.

        When The Soviet Union fell apart in the 1980’s Russian never surrendered its nuclear capability but what it has done while we let the water back in the swamp has ungraded its ICBM’s, land and air forces so they have always been a super power regardless of what the media would want you to believe.

        Don’t be surprise if Russia was to reach out at one of our allies as we have towards one of theirs “Syria”.

        • WW, uh, Putin WON’T be able to rebuild the old USSR in its entirety. During the Soviet era, there were more Russians than there are now. There’s only 145,000,000 Russians total in Russia today. They don’t have the manpower to totally reoccupy all of Eastern Europe. Maybe the Baltic states and Ukraine, but that’s it, AND they’ll face guerrilla warfare if they do. Putin and all of the old fans of the USSR knew damn well that the old Soviet system never worked and never will so he’s supposedly trying to back as much the old system as is feasible. Internal security in today’s Russia is already back to what is used to be in Stalin’s time. There are limits to what Putin can accomplish.

          • BTW, I forgot to mention that Russia’s population is in DECLINE, not increasing at all.

          • I agree with you on your points.

            But he has a dream or is it just a passing fantasy.

            We all wish sometimes for things to return to as they were, even leaders have that wish.

            But times change

      18. If you want a good read try; ” The Man Without A Face- The Unlikely Rise of Vladimir Putin”.
        It’s a good book. After I read it, I garage-saled it. Passed it on at a discount.

      19. Better off to believe there’s a bullet out there with your name on it and fear will flee. Easier than frettin’ about the guessing game that’s going on all round us.

        • Believe I’ll have another ice cold 12 oz. long neck “pork chop”.

      20. So now we have VP, McCain, Mattis over in EU hugging EU. The EU supports Failed Globalism and invaders killing of natural borne Europeans. This support came just in time to prop up EU in the coming Elections of March and April. Geert Wilders and LePenne who are against EU.

        In Russia, Putin says No to Globalism and he is sanctioned and vilified. Russia had a long history prior to Communism along with military strength. Communism is not the current government system there.

        Someone please explain why Russia is still the bad guy?

        Also I have to ask why there is a global movement to kill off whitey?

      21. President Trump has been choosing a cabinet that philosophically disagrees with him on both trade and foreign intervention. He needed Rand Paul as a VP to guard him, “You get to me and you inherit him”. Its like Theodore Roosevelt with McKinley. He is surrounded by the Establishment.

      22. Sarge. Your apology is accurate and only time will tell. Kevin2, what you just explained is what’s bothering me,. We see what he did. What was done and it makes no sense that his choices made sense. And a cluster phuck is pending with what outcome?’s givign me a fucking headache. And of course only time will tell.. Pence is problematic. And at the time when Jesse Ventura had mentioned when he said. Look who Trump picked for his VP..then Ventura told Alexis audience that see what he did shows what Trump is about? Just met coincidence and was Trump to pick Christie, this my friends is even more insane.. I think that individual survival is what this is coming fo to for the halfpasthumans. One minute we are here and the next we dissappear..things are just not looking good right now and now people who voted in Trump are singing a different time right now.. The people who are unemployed will. It be getting work anytime soon , a lot of them have lost everything and they will not be recovering to buy a car. A house etc ever again.this is common Sense.




      23. I have to ask again because after research I can not find a reason WHY. The TPTB want to continue to make Russia the Bad guy ultimately they will drag us into WW3.


        HCKS: I would suppose that Russians are here for a few reasons.
        1. US invites them for training.(?) But Why, if enemy worthy of Sanctions/WAR? Its just TWISTED!
        2. US pays Russia to launch our astronauts to U.S. Space Station. Obama arraigned this after he assigned NASA to help Muslim Countries. I suspect he used NASA for ISIS to keep out of certain Pentagon hands??
        3. The Russians you and I know about are here for more nefarious reasons.
        a) Waiting for upcoming programed civil unrest to enact a series of orders.
        1) Take down specific targets?
        2) Assist NWO Cops in taking down Patriot types.
        3) OR, Help Patriot types regain/maintain control????

        I would think the Russians would soften up a bit being over here. Russian life is a bit brutal (sustained periods of cold and isolation) Russians are shaped by the isolation and cold in a huge country with limited lifestyle comforts. I bet they love WIFI, food and shopping! In fact, I wonder if they are shipping items home to families etc…??? I would! Governments are different but people have same traits.

        To me the UKRAINE thing is BIG!
        To me it looks like the US is the Aggressor. I’ve even gone to out of US sources??
        John M-Cain is a Soros tool no doubt and with the Newly appointed Warmongers we very will see WW3.

        Other than Russia defends itself with military and nukes I can see that Russia has nothing else that would cause US to act so aggressively.
        So actually Russia is stopping the NWO??? To me that makes them an ally!

        Action for America is the home grown enemy they are subverting the U.S.! Our government is not serving the citizens best interests, at all!
        Maybe, its time for a Civilian/Russian outreach program??

        If anyone has anything to add or take away please fire away!

      24. ops meant analogy, my typo Sarge.


      25. Lesson from Ali

        I ain’t got no quarrel with them Russians. They never threatened to detain me indefinitely, confiscate my property through civil forfeiture without cause, or murder me at will. They never called me a terrorist. They never replaced my Officer Friendly with Darth SWAT. They never assassinated a standing US President (and might do it again).

      26. Hey, Mikey, Putin does not think like a mobster. I think that best describes our own paranoid leadership. Would it be a good idea if the Russians blow U.S. troops out of their boots trolling along the Russian border?

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