Former Senator Blasts Congress: “America Doesn’t Trust You Anymore… Not One Party, Both”

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This article was written by Tyler Durden and originally published at Zero Hedge.

Editor’s Comment: As many recent polls have shown, most Americans have less confidence in their representatives and misleaders in government than they do in almost anything else, though distrust is nearly universal for the media, too. Regardless of their position in the political spectrum, nearly every American paying attention is fed up.

The empire is over-stretched, has buried the population in debt, and has steered them into being controlled, tracked and packaged as a commodity. Only, this time, they’ve had enough of being lied to and used.

“You’ve Lost Their Confidence” Tom Coburn Exhorts Congress “America Doesn’t Trust You Anymore”

by Tyler Durden

“America doesn’t trust you anymore. That’s the truth… and that’s not one party, that’s both” raged former Senator Tom Coburn during a hearing before the Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs this week. As FreeBeacon reports, Coburn, making his first appearance before the Senate since his farewell speech when he retired in late 2014, pleaded with Congress to take action to reform government, quoting de Tocqueville, that an ever more centralized control reduces its citizenry “to nothing better than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd.”

As FreeBeacon.com’s Elizabeth Harrington reports, Coburn is leading a movement of more than 1 million activists working to hold a Convention of the States, allowed by Article V of the Constitution, to force Congress to balance the budget. He said 10 of 34 states needed have passed resolutions so far.

 “I would just tell you a little of my background this last year in 2015 I spent my time in 21 different states,” Coburn told the committee. “And America doesn’t trust you anymore. That’s the truth. Because they don’t see the actions coming out of Congress that should be coming out.”

“And that doesn’t mean that they’re right all the time, but you’ve lost their confidence,” he said. “And that’s not one party, that’s both. And so when you have hundreds of billions of dollars that could be saved and aren’t, and they know it. You know, they actually read your reports. People online, and then they use social media, pass it around.”

“The important thing is to restore the confidence in the country what you’re doing, and why you’re doing it and how you’re doing it,” Coburn said.

“The unfunded liabilities of this country, with its debt, is $142 trillion,” he said. “That’s $1 million per family, or that’s $1 million per taxpayer. Nobody knows what a trillion is but when you’re telling a young family with small kids, ‘Oh, by the way, here’s the debt burden that’s coming to you over the next 25 years, you better be prepared for it.’”

 “I would just tell you a little of my background this last year in 2015 I spent my time in 21 different states,” Coburn told the committee. “And America doesn’t trust you anymore. That’s the truth. Because they don’t see the actions coming out of Congress that should be coming out.”

“And that doesn’t mean that they’re right all the time, but you’ve lost their confidence,” he said. “And that’s not one party, that’s both. And so when you have hundreds of billions of dollars that could be saved and aren’t, and they know it. You know, they actually read your reports. People online, and then they use social media, pass it around.”

“The important thing is to restore the confidence in the country what you’re doing, and why you’re doing it and how you’re doing it,” Coburn said.

“The unfunded liabilities of this country, with its debt, is $142 trillion,” he said. “That’s $1 million per family, or that’s $1 million per taxpayer. Nobody knows what a trillion is but when you’re telling a young family with small kids, ‘Oh, by the way, here’s the debt burden that’s coming to you over the next 25 years, you better be prepared for it.’”

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Coburn said “too much government” and “too intrusive a government” is to blame for median family incomes being the same size as in 1988. Throughout Coburn said Congress needs to stop focusing on fixing the symptoms but focus on fixing the disease. He called for a more simple and fairer tax code, which he said could eliminate 90,000 IRS agents, who make 77 percent more than the average American.

He pointed to Alexis de Tocqueville, quoting at length the French political philosopher’s Democracy in America, to explain the current upheaval in American politics and the presidential race.

“Some of you may have read it, some of you may not have, but it tells me where we are today in our country,” Coburn said. “And having been in 21 states the last year, and 15 already this year, and what I’m hearing, I’m hearing what Tocqueville described back in the late 1700s.”

Coburn cited Tocqueville observations that centralized power of “small, complicated rules, minute and uniform” leads to the “will of man … not shattered, but softened, bent, and guided.”

“Such a power does not destroy, but it prevents existence; it does not tyrannize, but it compresses, enervates, extinguishes, and stupefies a people, till each nation is reduced to nothing better than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd,” Coburn said, quoting Tocqueville.

“That to me in my experience, my opinion, is where we are today in our country,” Coburn concluded. “I think that’s why you see the presidential race that we’re seeing.”

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This article was written by Tyler Durden and originally published at Zero Hedge.

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    83 Comments

    1. Genius

      Write them some letters, that always works lol.

      • FTW

        Genius – [sarcasm ON]

        Yes – write those letters of concern folks – don’t forget to call their Hotlines to view your concerns as well – and most of all – don’t neglect your patriotic duty to vote for more of the same – after all, it’s what America deserves – more Political Theatrics to keep us fully Entertained for decades to come!

        [sarcasm fucking OFF]

        • durangokidd

          A Convention of States under Article V is a Constitutional Convention and anything can happen in that process, including the elimination of the Second Amendment, among others.

          ITS A VERY BAD IDEA AND SHOULD BE RESISTED BY PATRIOTS !!! 🙁

          • Its show time.

            Absolute correct. Constitution needs only to be followed and applied. This is a decoy to REMOVE the constitution from every be used again.

          • Mountain Trekker

            DK you got that right, any Patriot with any knowledge at all knows that a Con-Con is bad news. And as many others on here state, don’t be so stupid as to vote or write or email or call your elected Representatives, just get on SHTFplan and voice your complaints, that’ll get the job done. Trekker Out. Are You Kidding Me!

          • Winston Smith

            That’s the first thing that came to my mind as well. What we would get is a nightmare with constitutional guarantees of things like housing, health care, food, higher education, etc. but lacking in basic human rights of religion, free speech, assembly, private property and firearms ownership. The nation’s garbage would rule the day and the rest of us would be left scratching our collective head as to what the hell just happened.

          • B from CA

            Durango Kid:

            So how we gonna stop Em.?

            • durangokidd

              Create a FREEDOM CELL where you live with like minded family, friends, and neighbors. Connect with local gun clubs and/hunters and VETERANS. Educate the local population about the dangers of a CON-CON and the real end game. Enlist their support.

              ORGANIZE !!!

              Get a little bit of publicity and people will come to YOU !!! Check with a Tea Party in your area. They will likely have a website where everyone can connect. Pass out flyers. Identify the local POLITICAL PTB that promote this kind of thing. Target the POLITICAL PTB in your neck of the woods. Keep it legal. Keep it political.

              Devise a plan to have political rallies against it. Demonstrate on the STREET where these bastards live. Be vocal. Be loud. Be angry !!! Find like minded LEO’s to advise you in the various fraternal orders and organizations.

              ENGAGE !!! 🙂

              • Genius

                Once upon a time the people were the military, now the people fear the military. Can you explain this?

                • durangokidd

                  Yes. Those who fear the military are not veterans and usually have no military experience themselves. Veterans by and large are a BROTHERHOOD of Patriots who have risked their life for their Constitutional Rights.

                  I do not know any ex-Marines for example who would not engage ANYONE threatening their right to keep and bear arms under the Second Amendment.

                  If push comes to shove, Veterans will defend the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic. This is NOT idle chatter. You may be a genius, but you obviously have no military experience and fear what you do not know and understand.

                  Semper Fi. 🙂

      • Apache54

        Genius,
        I had to start laughing when i saw your sarcasm, several years ago i tried to send some letters to some of my states politicians with some VERY direct questions and all i ever got back was some stupid pre-made form letters with some verbage that had NOTHING to do with what i asked. so i dropped that like a hot potato!
        hope this adds to your smile as well!

        • Mountain Trekker

          Apache I have to agree with you up to a point, I sent an email to a U.S. Congressman In Missourah on one subject and a friend of mine sent an email on a totally different subject, and we both got the exact same response the only different was our names. The problem is that population wise they get so few complaints that they know it makes no difference. Trekker Out. Numbers Count!!!

          • Genius

            Same here, makes ya feel all warm and fuzzy doesn’t it….

          • B from CA

            Mountain Trekker:

            May be millions of letters work. That requires someone(s) taking it upon themself to work day and night to organize a letter writing campaign. You could use Facebook I guess. Got any ideas. This seems like a worthy project for someone with computer skills. of course face to face with our reps in DC would be better. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. What we don’t want is to let them sneak it thru in the middle of the night or when everyone leaves like in 1913 when Congress was out on holiday and we got the Federal Reserve. (Should have put them in prison then and there. But it is never too late.). Also made cannabis illegal by calling it maryjuana, Mexican slang unfamiliar to the 1930’s farmers so they didn’t fight it. They got tricked.

            • Mountain Trekker

              B from CA I understand that all people don’t have the time to continuously Contact TPTB, but many people are retired or semi-retired and as you may know, once you email your elected Reps it takes very little effort to contact them again and voice your concern. We The People are being squeezed because we have either been to lazy or apathetic to stand up for what we believe. As someone of renown once said, if you don’t resist while free, how much harder it will be once enslaved, or something like that. Anywho, people that say don’t bother to do anything, sure ain’t gonna rise up after some kind of so-called reset and give us a Utopia. Trekker Out. We Have Met The Enemy, And It Is Us!

              • durangokidd

                As a single voice you have no power, no influence. You must represent a group. The larger the better. The louder and more active the better. Magnify your voice in a group. Multiply your power in an organization.

                Constitutional Life Matters !!! 🙂

                • Genius

                  You never answered my question DK, how big is your freedom cell?

                  • durangokidd

                    “You never answered my question DK, how big is your freedom cell?”

                    I didn’t see this question asked anywhere else. This is the first time. First of all, its not the size of the dog in the fight; but the size of the fight in the dog.

                    I started with a few, then a dozen family, friends, neighbors, and veterans from various social groups, and professional organizations: a small squad. The friends are lifelong buddies who I grew up with and have known since little league.

                    This nucleus are Combat Vets are of every nationality. ALL are committed Christians.

                    Each of those individuals, formed their own, separate Freedom Cell. The goal for each is a dozen from their family, friends, neighbors, and differing social or professional groups; even political groups.

                    Then those dozen created a Freedom Cell of their own, some in other communities within Arizona, others in the greater Southwest. Each member who feels capable of leadership and/or inspired, creates his/her own discrete CELL.

                    We limit each cell to a dozen max for security purposes. We don’t do “maneuvers” like typical militia. As long as hostilities do not break out in a Civil War between a Rogue Administration and WE THE PEOPLE, there is no need for US to come out of the shadows. And then WE would come out for targets of opportunity to “protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic”.

                    My CELL and others like it pose no physical threat to the Status Quo at this time and confine our activities to political activism and education. However, we are prepared if the situation turns hot. Think of US as G-2 collecting intelligence on the NWO OPPOSITION. “Make a list. Check it twice. Know who has been naughty and who has been nice in your neck of the woods.”

                    Like Patriots of old, some are businessmen with various backgrounds, abilities, and talents. Each 12 person Cell has at least two Vietnam Vets, or Iraq vets, or both. All members are card carrying firearm owners. No one is added to a Cell except by invitation of ALL members of the Cell and then only over a lengthy period of time in association in a number of environments.

                    Some of the other CELLS, I am told, have only a half a dozen members at this time, but are growing (slowly). Some of the older Cell Members seed and mentor several CELLS. The common thread for membership is American Nationalism, based upon Constitutional Principles, intelligence, and self discipline with little to no substance use or abuse among members. We monitor member behavior in this regard, over time, prior to any invitation to join US.

                    Most are athletically inclined toward the outdoors or other sports. Candidates are monitored over time and if not “selected” for immediate inclusion, are placed on a secondary list for recruitment in a national or local emergency: and for more observation. With such independent FREEDOM CELLS all over the nation, the NWO can be eliminated overnight and at 500 yards.

                    Think of it as a Rotary Club for Patriots !!! 🙂

        • Tucker

          I can top Apache54’s story. Several years ago, I sat down and spent over 6 hours online collecting my data and doing research into the unbelievable amount of American tax dollars that have been sucked out of our pockets and paychecks and devoured by the criminal, 9-11 false flag engineering State of Israel in the form of foreign aid, military aid, loan guarantees which are quietly ‘forgiven’ by our treasonous scumbags in Congress where they insert a line or two into some must-pass legislation that cancels the loan obligation for Israel to repay their loans and a whole host of other grants and handouts that the jews in America have connived to extract from our wallets. And, armed with these statistics – I wrote a letter to the greasy slabs of treasonous hyena excrement who call themselves my Senators and Representatives and demanded that the vampire fangs of Israel be permanently removed from the necks of the American taxpayers.

          Care to guess how they responded?

          I got letters from them where they were proudly boasting of how they had voted to increase the foreign and military aid to Israel.

          In essence, they all gave me the Big Middle Finger and a chorus of ‘F.U.’

          • B from CA

            Tucker:
            The letters you received were most likely sent because the elected don’t know if you are a concerned citizen or a spy for Isreal. You can’t underestimate just how tamed someone gets under the current state of “take the gold or take the lead”. Everybody is a hero until things get nasty and things got nasty a long time ago. The Lindbergh kidnapping, Kennedy(s), etc.

    2. FTW

      When the “Dem/Rep Theatrical Show” ends – this guy does not want to be included in the spotlight of the future “Public American Lynching Show!”

    3. buttcrackofdoom

      talking TO THE CRIMINALS THAT RUN THE ASYLUM? why won’t THAT work out for U.S.!

    4. B from CA

      I hope their feelings weren’t hurt when the Government workers were told that Americans don’t trust them. He could have put it another way. He might have said. Americans think you are scum. They despise you. They call you fucking traitors who are stooges for a foreign country. Some would like to see you hang. Others just want you behind bars along with the Banksters and the billionaire scum who put you in office. Trust you, ha. Like Americans trust Bernie Madoff. Fucken traitorous scum of the earth, there aren’t words to describe just how fed up Americans are with your lying asses.

      • FTW

        B from CA –

        Something tells me in the near future in the News, that Tom Coburn is going to make the Headline.

        Like Scalia – Coburn dead from unknown circumstances

        • Vet1

          …with no autopsy required!!!

        • Braveheart1776

          FTW, you may be right. Coburn had better be watching his six.

          • NorthGeorgiaIdiotsCousin

            Six what Cuz?

    5. buttcrackofdoom

      Things we trust more than CONgress…

      · Mexican tap water
      · A rattlesnake with a “pet me” sign
      · OJ Simpson showing me his knife collection
      · An elevator ride with Ray Rice
      · Taking pills offered by Bill Cosby
      · Michael Jackson’s Doctor
      · An Obama Nuclear deal with Iran
      · A Palestinian on a motorcycle
      · Gas station Sushi
      · A Jimmy Carter economic plan
      · Brian Williams’ news reports
      · Loch Ness monster sightings
      · Prayers for peace from Al Sharpton
      · Playing Russian Roulette with a semi-auto pistol
      · Emails from Nigerian princes
      · The Heimlich Maneuver from Barney Frank
      · A condom made in China
      · A prostate exam from Captain Hook
      · Bill Clinton at a Girl Scout convention

      Larry Houghton

      • OasisDenied

        “Gas station sushi”
        lmao.

        I would eat that before I’d vote.

        Hopefully this year’s election sham will show people that voting is rigged.

        My vote is to not vote.
        I’m an anarchist by heart and as such I cannot vote on a system that is completely anti freedom.

        • buttcrackofdoom

          i would rather remove my spleen with an oyster-knife, than eat gas station sushi!

      • Stuart

        Now THAT is funny….. I don’t care who you are
        ….. and accurate too!

      • Genius

        It has occured to me that if Trump gets elected and Hillary gets disqualified that would help create the chaos and rioting they are looking for. Try and imagine those 2 things happening and the social outcome of it. It would get the right wing on the side of the cops, install a bigger police state, get a nationwide riot from the darkies and messkins, it would be a dream come true for the zionist pukes! I’m startin to think this will be the outcome because of the outcome. Any thoughts?

        • Genius

          Really! NO replies? I guess I hit the nail…..

          • B from CA

            Genius:

            Marshall law isn’t always going to lead to a Zionist dream come true. If I were Trump and riots broke out I wouldn’t hesitate to put in Marshall Law, make mass arrests of rioters, put them in FEMA camps. Why? Because deporting illegals isn’t going to happen unless they break the law. So, no problem. Yes problem. Obama will still be President and he has no desire to send gang bangers back to their own Country. He would arrest white people beat up by black and Latino rioters just because by definition only whites can be guilty of hate crimes. However, once Trump is sworn in, if he is half the man he claims to be, things could be set back on the right track. But between Election Day in November and passing of the torch in January, we could see some very bad occurrences. You do make a logical argument. But I will still vote for Trump. Fingers crossed.

      • Seen2013

        Flint’s water supply
        The bears in National Parks (some people actually do think that they are domesticated…)
        A cornered wolverine
        The rabid dog
        Bill Clinton supervising a Girl’s summer camp.
        Skydiving without a parachute
        Discovering a lost continent with prehistoric and mythical creatures.
        And the Ghostbuster’s reboot being any good.

        I hope that helps the list some…

    6. charlie2dogs

      i have never been so disgusted and sick to my guts at the dirty filthy mess we have running this country and running for office in this country, its no fing wonder the country is going to hell in a handbasket, but dumbass americans keep voting for the crap, so keep eating it, no sympathy here.

      • Kulafarmer

        Keep voting for these turds and keep paying their pound of flesh, i would rather starve to death.

    7. Woogie

      The presidential race I am observing has only ONE candidate that sees it the way Colburn does for all problems we have: to cut spending, balance the budget, de-regulate, stop borrowing money, repeal Obamacare mandates and replace it, lower taxes to increase growth, secure our borders and obey immigration laws, and protect the constitution that limits government over-reach….and it’s NOT Trump, Clinton or Sanders.

      But, this country is too divided among themselves— too indoctrinated into socialism and cronyism to put the right person in office to fix them. They deserve what they get.

      • Snelloc

        The other guy I think you are referring to won’t fix it either. Especially the immigration part.

    8. Houston/Cypress/Katy/Shtf

      http://z3news.com/w/trump-chosen-two-years-ago/

      ECONOMIC CALLAPSE/CATATROPHE IS ON THE HORIZON.

      TRUMP BRINGS IN THE NEW WORLD ORDER.?

      Could this be why i was told that Ted Cruz and Donald Trump will be on the smame ticket. Or is Trump’s Loalty with Russia’s Putin. Could this be why russians have been into my face, or it is something more going on. You see i believe this article. Then again, did former Governor Rick Perry of Texas publically promote Ted Cruz for the President because Ted Cruz may be the good guy that needs to be in the white house of did Foriana tell the truth about Trump being establishment controlled? I just don’t know what to belive anymore, and all its coming down to is prepping to prepare for the worst hell on earth. And every time i look into this, i keep hearing the voice of my scientist friend who keeps promising me and others that we have a horrifc supprise that which hit us of guard. Something i bad is going to happen, really bad. How does one deal with that calamity. First thing i have learned from experince is the usual. Water, food, this first then its guns and ammo next. I saw the Jade Helm equipment in my city and my office complex kept getting rattled daily. Lots of complaints everywhere just all over the place. Trump appears to be someone trust worthy, i dont cant listen or accept anything more, it appears that we are in alot deeper sh….t than we can ever imagine. Read the link, Bullshit.? or just a disgruntled liar? trying to attack Trump.
      HCKS.

      • Copper

        HCK. I commend you on a well written, spell checked, coherent comment. You have good points and support your argument with facts. Perhaps someday, we can have your scientist friend share his ideas on this site. Please ask him. Although you relaying information bestowed to you from said scientist, sadly you are not a scientist. Realize third party passing of information isn’t an invalid mode of relaying information, it is helpful to hear from the person with the original basis of knowledge.
        You have great and multiple ideas. You also appear to be excited and introduce new topics sentence by sentence and at times mid sentence. I can keep up but an untrained reader will quickly become overwhelmed.
        Please…generate more writings. Just dumb it down so an average reader can comprehend your teachings.

        Copper

        • Mountain Trekker

          Oh Copper, you have tears running down my cheeks, I can hardlee see to type. Trekker Out

        • Mountain Trekker

          Copper, please tell me you have a background in Teaching. If I weren’t so old I’d swear you were my eight grade Teacher, only she, could tell me in such a manner how absolutely stupid I was, and yet make me swell with pride. Trekker Out.

          • Copper

            My mother was in fact an English teacher and had little patience in almost all aspects of life. I learned how to write out of self preservation. I appreciate varied ideas as long as I can understand them.

          • buttcrackofdoom

            reminds me of the conversation my teacher had with ME in the 5th grade ” you know, randy, education aint for EVERYbody”.

    9. Anonymous

      There will be more of them riding the Save Face bandwagon.

    10. eppe

      Been a while since a good joke….

      “Political Burial”

      A stretch limo full of politicians was taking a back route down a two-lane country road late at night. The limo ran into a bad storm, and slid off the wet pavement at high speed. It flipped over a few times, and finally crashed into a tractor in the middle of a field.

      The owner of the farm heard the noise and went out to see what happened. After checking out the scene, he used his tractor to bury the passengers.

      The next afternoon the county deputy was passing and saw the wrecked limo, which had been reported as missing. He asked the farmer what happened, and the farmer let him know he’d buried all the politicians.

      The deputy asked, “Were you certain they were all dead?”

      “Well,” said the farmer, “a few of them claimed they weren’t, but you know how you can’t believe a word they say.”

      • Sgt. Dale

        Thanks Eppe!
        Need that one.
        Sgt.

      • FTW

        Eppe –

        That is a dandy!

        Here’s one for ‘ya – fits nicely, right into yours.

        POLITICS

        Little Johnny goes to his dad and asks, “What is politics?” Dad says, “Well son, let me try to explain it this way. I’m the breadwinner of the family, so let’s call me Capitalism. Mommy is the administrator of the money, so we’ll call her the Government. We’re here to take care of your needs, so we’ll call you The People. The nanny, well, consider her The Working Class. Your baby brother, we’ll call him The Future. Now go think about this and see if it makes sense.”

        So the little boy goes off to bed thinking about what Dad has said. Later that night, he hears his baby brother crying and runs to his room only to find that his diapers are very soiled.

        So the little boy goes to his parents’ room. Mom is sound asleep. Not wanting to wake her, he goes to the nanny’s room. Finding the door locked, he looks through the peephole and sees his father in bed with the nanny. He gives up and goes back to bed.

        The next morning, the little boy says to his father, “Dad, I think I understand what politics is now.” “Good son, tell me in your own words then what politics are.” The little boy replies, “Well, while Capitalism is screwing the Working Class, the Government is sound asleep, the People are being ignored and the Future is in deep shit.”

        • Braveheart1776

          FTW, ROTFLMAO! I have to put you in the same category with Eppe. One of the best jokes I’ve ever heard anywhere and sad to say it’s true.

          • NorthGeorgiaIdiotsCousin

            Cuz quit blowing smoke up these guy’s azz, I have to agree with WWTI, all they do is tell some old canned jokes. What ever happened to Smokin Okie, now there was a guy that could tell an origional joke, then along comes these clowns repeating all these old jokes and replaces Okie. But Cuz when you git over here to the BOL I got some new ones for you.

      • eppe

        Another good read…

        h ttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-29/patrick-buchanan-last-america-first

    11. CommonCents

      It used to be that the government was there to protect the people. Now the people have to protect themselves from the government.

    12. Halli

      There’s alota Tree’s in America that are lonely

    13. Vet1

      …word must be getting out if there’s talk like that???

      …nahhh! sheeple still snoozing!!!

    14. Braveheart1776

      Eppe, ROTFLMAO! One of your best jokes ever. We could use more of that these days.

    15. Plain Old American

      “Coburn is leading a movement of more than 1 million activists working to hold a Convention of the States, allowed by Article V of the Constitution, to force Congress to balance the budget.”

      A convention would be the end of the US Constitution. First, the BBA is not designed to limit government spending. It is designed to authorize all of those expenditures which are currently made even though they are totally unlawful. (things like The government spent $2.6 million to encourage Chinese prostitutes to drink more responsibly, The U.S. Department of Agriculture has spent $300,000 to encourage Americans to eat caviar produced in Idaho, The U.S. government spent $27 million to teach Moroccans how to design and make pottery in 2012)

      Unlike 1787 the proceedings would not be covert and we are short a few George Washingtons and Alexander Hamiltons. Instead we have “statesmen” like Denny Hastert, Mel Reynolds, Nancy Pelosi and Sarah Palin. Does anyone believe for 10 seconds that The Joyce Foundation, Michael Bloomberg and George Soros would not use everything possible to abolish the 2nd amendment or 9th and 10th amendments?

      We don’t want to open that Pandora’s box.

      • B from CA

        Plain Old American:

        Your post is really scary. It would be just like a politician to talk one way and act another. Talk about trust and then go out and trick the people. A Pandora’s box: that could be the nail in the coffin of the Constitution, and a back door to our Second Amendment. Sure it would be a farce. But with the appearance of legality. Then they would use force on anyone who resists.

        Keep us informed. Thank you.

    16. Sgt. Dale

      I don’t trust any of them as far as I can throw one. There is not two parties. There is two names and that is it!!!!

      Trump must know he is over the target because he is getting all the Flack. This time I’m voting for someone and not against someone. If Trump doesn’t get the nomination I’m voting for Hellory. Just to get the Civil war started. The soon the better. Let us get it going before I’m too frigging old to fight.

      Sgt.

      • Vet1

        I agree Sgt.!!!

        I can give a good account of myself now…

        If we’re gonna do it…Ding! Ding! Ding!!!

      • rellik

        Hey Sgt.
        Remember the saying “Never pick a fight with an old man, he will just shoot you”.
        I think that applies to most the men and women on this site. We will shoot, we can’t run away fast enough.

        • Sgt. Dale

          “R”
          YEP!!!!!
          From one old FART to another.
          Sgt.

          • Braveheart1776

            Sarge and Rellik, same here. I’m an old fart from the old school and proud of it!

            • anon

              Braveheart1776

              “Hey Joe, where you going with that gun in your hand”.

              J.H.

              • Braveheart1776

                Anon, oh yes, good ol’ Jimi Hendrix. Brings back some memories…..

            • Apache54

              i am in the same boat as you’all and will use all that i was taught to take care of business when it shows up, and i think it is on the way!

      • Ketchupondemand

        Sgt, if Trump doesn’t get the nomination don’t bother voting. Hitlery will win anyway. You don’t want her to win in a landslide, she might think she has a mandate to do whatever she wants.
        Oh, forgot. She’ll do that anyway.
        Man are we screwed.

        • Sgt. Dale

          “K”
          Pass the Preparation “H”!!!!
          Sgt.

    17. vote from the rooftops

      And now some wisdom from franklin graham

      The American Dream ended (on November 6th, 2012 ) in Ohio.

      The second term of Barack Obama will be the final nail in the coffin for the legacy of the white Christian males who discovered, explored, pioneered, settled and developed the greatest Republic in the history of mankind.

      A coalition of Blacks, Latinos, Feminists, Gays , Government Workers, Union Members, Environmental Extremists, The Media, Hollywood , uninformed young people, the “forever needy,” the chronically unemployed, illegal aliens and other “fellow travelers” have ended Norman Rockwell ‘s America.

      The Cocker Spaniel is off the front porch… The Pit Bull is in the back yard. The American Constitution has been replaced with Saul Alinsky ‘s “Rules for Radicals” and Chicago shyster, David Axelrod , along with international Socialist George Soros will be pulling the strings on their beige puppet to bring us Act 2 of the New World Order.

      Our side ran two candidates who couldn’t even win their own home states, and Chris Christie helped Obama over the top with a glowing “post Sandy ” tribute that elevated the “Commander-in-Chief” to Mother Teresa status. (Aside: with the way the polls were run, he didn’t need any help!) People like me are completely politically irrelevant, and I will never again comment on or concern myself with the aforementioned coalition which has surrendered our culture, our heritage and our traditions without a shot being fired.

      You will never again out-vote these people. It will take individual acts of defiance and massive displays of civil disobedience to get back the rights we have allowed them to take away. It will take Zealots, not moderates & shy not reach-across-the-aisle RINOs to right this ship and restore our beloved country to its former status.Those who come after us will have to risk their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor to bring back the Republic that this generation has timidly frittered away due to white guilt and political correctness.

    18. southside

      ok,now that the government has been put on notice that no one trusts them,now what. what usually follows is a gradual going away from anything connected to the entity. and then no one will follow them anymore. that is when the rubber hits the road.the government will become ever more insistent that it be paid attention to.that moment is the time to strike. let men and women of brave heart strike for freedom.i stand ready for that moment.

    19. Kevin2

      “America Doesn’t Trust You Anymore”

      I would have to say that the above is a two way street as its obvious that the United States Government doesn’t trust its own people.

      • Genius

        Rogue govt.= Rogue people…..

    20. Asshat

      Obummer has to use executive orders to get shit through because congress mostly republican don’t wanna work with him. I approve of the job they are doing sitting on their hands. I trust congress more than Obummer.

    21. Kevin2

      I think the Italians have a saying, “A fish rots from the head down”. The hooray for me the hell with you, he who dies with the most toys wins, the ends justify the means the crass selfishness and its mentor overindulgence are all not just accepted behavior but rather strived for.

      Moral guidance that should be the arbiter of decisions has left the building.

    22. watching and waiting

      Watch out for what you wish for.

      Remember, One concept of The New World order is the bashing and
      trashing of National Sovereignty.

      The system, it is the crooked, evil people in it who run it or direct its path by using subversive means.

      A third party would make it more interesting. Another choice.
      Would give the two other parties a run. A independent party, conservative. Most Americans consider themselves conservative.

      Just my opinion.

    23. anon

      With approval ratings of Congress or the President being the lowest ever, do we have any inclination that things will get better? I would say that they would not care if the numbers dropped to zero. So they continue on THEIR path with a few bones and scraps thrown our way to settle the masses. But things are changing and the miscalculation is that whoever wins will there be riots?
      Should there be riots it may disrupt a maintained order of installing the NWO and completely destroying our country. Both political party’s fear loosing control most of all. Is this the reason for Jade Helm?

    24. aljamo

      After the secret TPP and TTIP swindles become an enacted done deal present day concerns will pale in comparison. It only gets more oppressive. Free speech will be severly restricted. Otyrants legacy hangs in this treason being pushed forward while ignoring widespread global opposition.

    25. Old Guy

      My stating im going to vote for hellory just to bring it to a head. that logic is beginning to find support/

      • Mountain Trekker

        That logic is about the stupidest thing ever stated, because all those saying it, ain’t gonna do Shit!!! Trekker Out.

    26. Asshat

      Old guy right on vote for hitlery to bring it down. I hate Hillary but I’m sick of the back and forth so gonna vote for hill to finish us off. A vote for trump is a last ditch effort to save a failed system. I say let’s take this submarine to the bottom. It’s your vote do what you want come November. The media and candidates try’s to predict what way different people vote lets mess up their predictions. Trump is kicking the can another 10 feet and hitlery is put a fork in us we’re done.

    27. Unknown Suspect

      The vote of confidence is high. Those here put their money where their mouths are- our vote of NO confidence shows through our purchases and what we’re storing away along with using more common sense to what we’re purchasing.

      You’d probably called yourself crazy 10-15 years ago, in considering if 5 gallon buckets of rice and beans was a good investment. Like insurance, you’re buying something to protect and defend your way of life. It’s not crazy, it’s eyes wide open and yes, the king has no clothes.

    28. YEAR 0

      YOU ANIT SHITING SKIPPY

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