Mayor Searched, Stripped of Electronics: “Being US Citizen Did Not Entitle Me to Rights That I Probably Thought”

by | Oct 7, 2015 | Conspiracy Fact and Theory | 87 comments

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    This article was written by Michael Krieger and originally published at his Liberty Blitzkrieg website.

    Editor’s Note: The attitude of federal authorities has continually been one of arrogance and dominance over the American people. The fact that it is now happening to a high profile mayor is all the more unsettling – particularly as they refused the man the ability to have his lawyer present, and declared flippantly that he ‘didn’t have the rights that he thought he did.’

    Wow! This kind of behavior will get only worse and worse unless it is stopped or challenged. Our sad future is to witness a sharp erosion of our rights, and find ourselves virtually without a country and under the control of a technology-driven fascist bureaucracy that is build for the privilege and enrichment of a very few.

    California Mayor Forced to Hand Over Electronics and Passwords at Airport – Compares U.S. to Nazi Germany

    by Michael Krieger

    “I think the American people should be extremely concerned about their personal rights and privacy. As I was being searched at the airport, there was a Latino couple to my left, and an Asian couple to my right also being aggressively searched. I briefly had to remind myself that this was not North Korea or Nazi Germany. This is the land of the Free.

    – Anthony Silva, Mayor of Stockton, California

    Just in case you’re still under the infantile illusion that you reside in a free country.

    From ArsTechnica:

    Stockton, California Mayor Anthony R. Silva attended a recent mayor’s conference in China, but his return trip took a bit longer than usual. At the San Francisco International Airport (SFO) this week, agents with the Department of Homeland Security detained Silva and confiscated his personal cell phone among other electronics. According to comments from the mayor, that may not even be the most alarming part.

    “Unfortunately, they were not willing or able to produce a search warrant or any court documents suggesting they had a legal right to take my property,” Silva told SFGate. “In addition, they were persistent about requiring my passwords for all devices.”

    The mayor’s attorney, Mark Reichel, told SFGate that Silva was not allowed to leave the airport without forfeiting his passwords. Reichel was not present for Silva’s interaction with the DHS agents, either. The mayor was told he had “no right for a lawyer to be present” and that being a US citizen did not “entitle me to rights that I probably thought,” according to the paper.

    Evidently, Silva was well aware of the situation and only had his concerns heightened by first-hand experience. Talking to SFGate, he briefly compared the government battle on privacy to notorious dictatorships worldwide.

    “I think the American people should be extremely concerned about their personal rights and privacy,” Silva told the paper. “As I was being searched at the airport, there was a Latino couple to my left, and an Asian couple to my right also being aggressively searched. I briefly had to remind myself that this was not North Korea or Nazi Germany. This is the land of the Free.”

    This is not what freedom looks like.

    Of course, I’ve written a lot on the dangers of the Department of Homeland Security over the years. Fears which are coming home to roost in spades. See:

    The “War on Terror” Turns Inward – DHS Report Warns of Right Wing Terror Threat

    “War on Terror” Targets Underwear – Department of Homeland Security Raids Maker of Unlicensed World Series Panties

    Former DHS Chief Privacy Officer Was Regularly Called a “Terrorist” by the Intelligence Community

    In Liberty,
    Michael Krieger

    This article was written by Michael Krieger and originally published at his Liberty Blitzkrieg website.

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      1. China Looks To Quell Dissent With ‘Citizen Scores,’ A Number That Tracks Purchases, Opinions And Social Circles

        ht tp://www.blacklistednews.com/China_Looks_To_Quell_Dissent_With_’Citizen_Scores%2C’_A_Number_That_Tracks_Purchases%2C_Opinions_And_Social_Circles/46548/0/38/38/Y/M.html

        no doubt the US government is already doing something very similar

        post on TSHTF Plan?
        2 points for every post

        own a gun ?
        thats 100 points

        support third party candidates ?
        that’ll earn you another 100 points

        • Always wanted to be a millionaire.

          • The spin the FEDS are saying is that this mayor was suspect in illegal dealing with the Chinese.

            Apparently they did not have probable cause for a warrant so the just waited until he re entered the country and searched it that way.

            • Well then just get a warrant.

              I suspect your wife has contraband in her bra and I’m a TSA agent. No warrant needed.

        • Is this kind of like Green Stamps, send in the booklet and get a toaster?

          • Probably more like “Camel Bucks”. You can save them and trade them in for cheap, useless shit you’re never going to use, but at least it has a pretty Camel logo on it…

        • I would have given them only three words…. GO FUCK YOURSELVES.

          • My life isn’t that hectic, so I’d say “I hope you packed a lunch, because you’re not getting my passwords no matter how long you stand there and glare at me.”

        • 100 points for a gun? Lordy, I’m a WINNER!

        • I have the high score. do I win?

      2. papers please

        • This is the land of scum banksters, scum politicians, scum illegals, islamic savages, pigs, and sexual deviants. Need em all together in a big group somewhere and kill every damn one of them. Then we could have a party.

          • Islamic savages? Lol, where are these savages in the USA? Youtube 9/11 missing links andlearn about the israeli cover up of 9/11. The same guy(chertoff, dual israeli citizen) who handled the 9/11 commie-omissions was promoted to the head of the department of homeland security, which is fema, HS, and 10 other over powered unchecked govt agencies. He also was the writer for the patriot act.

            The same israeli mossad agents that video taped and celebrated 9/11 as it happened… also had a BOMB! And where sent back to israel with no charges.

            Also, in the patriot act, WHY was an exemption to any 9/11 lawsuits for israel added?

            You aren’t nearly as awake as you think you are.

            • Yes, Islamic Savages. Looks like WWTI is masquerading through other Avatar names. Throw as much jew-hating BS into the fray as you want, WWTI-clone. Menzoberranzan is on=point with the term Islamic Savages.

            • Some person, you are just another Jew hater for whatever reason. Go embrace the islamic savages and see if they don’t have your little ass for dinner.

        • Silva, welcome to the REAL world…

          Your papers are not in order…

          • Not a pleasant situation to be in! I can feel for the guy.

            • Laeagle, any other time I would’ve said what’s good for the goose is good for the gander, but this time and with conditions getting worse, I find myself sympathizing with a politician. I never thought that would happen, but……

              • I’ll bet people were trying to tell him what was happening, and he probably refused to believe it — UNTIL IT FINALLY HAPPENED TO HIM.

                The politician class is going to find out that THEY are not going to be part of the “protected class” after all, but be down at the bottom with the rest of us, being used and abused.

                Wake-up Call!

          • Could this set off the Madrid???

            ht tp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-07/catastrophic-event-looms-stlouis-underground-fire-burning-2010-nears-nuclear-waste

            • No. Do you not have any understanding of elementary geology?

              • Right…. and Fracking doesn’t cause earthquakes.

                • Are we talking about fracking or are we talking about a nuclear contaminated dump site that won’t have material below 100 ft subsurface?

                  How about this one then. Could the fire and molten metal in the sub basement levels of the World Trade Center have caused an earthquake to occur if that building structure had a fault line near it?

                  –Of course it wouldn’t have, so why would anyone think a fire involving nuclear waste materials would potentially do that?
                  This isn’t fissionable reactor core materials. They are not going to start a chain reaction and go china syndrome because buried trash is burning nearby. The materials might catch fire themselves and then the result would be nuclear contamination going airborne. Last I checked, airborne gases don’t cause earthquakes on fault lines.

                  If the Nuclear materials had any chance of chain reacting and creating an uncontained nuclear reaction, then they would have done that in the last 40 years that that stuff has sat in the ground already. And frankly had that happened, the fire wouldn’t be moving toward the nuclear materials, but away from them as they would catch alight anything around them that could burn with the high heat of a nuclear reaction event.

                  In case anyone is wondering, the New Madrid fault line is between 3 and 15 miles deep. So things on or near the surface won’t come anywhere near that fault line.

                  Please use your brain when posting in the future RealityCheck.

      3. Should’ve told the DHS to go suck on eggs. You do have the right to a lawyer if you’re suspected of a crime and if they don’t then on what grounds can they hold you?

        • DHS border authorities have always been able to legally do the things this guy complained about without a warrant. The border search authority given to them by law allows it. This was the case before DHS was formed, the authority was always given to the U.S. Customs Service and for the INS Inspectors working at borders as well. That this mayor or the average American is now outraged or up in arms about this only shows how little people have paid attention. It has literally always been this way at the border. Is it right? That’s a whole other discussion. But let’s not pretend like this is a new thing that DHS is doing.

        • damn straight, he should have immediately called his lawyer on his cell… phone… oh, wait…

      4. “Stockton, California Mayor Anthony R. Silva”

        If anyone could cause them to conform to the law its someone in this mans position. Why he didn’t pull a Nancy Reagan, “Just Say No” is beyond me. Password? No you figure it out. Can’t leave? Realistically how long are you keeping me. After a few days people will be asking about me. I’m too well known to just disappear.

        Its upsetting that:

        A. He did not passively resist in the above.
        B. The DHS would push that hard on someone of his reasonably high profile.

        • kevin2, under other circumstances I would say it’s about time a politician got a dose of their own medicine, but this time I just can’t bring myself to say that with conditions getting worse and worse. If I’m ever in a similar situation I won’t submit, period. I’ll pull a Nancy Reagan and more if it’s necessary.

          • Braveheart

            I see a nice out of court law suit settlement out of this PROVIDING he had damages. He is a mayor of a decent sized city. Make them the bad guy. Pull a Ghandi of passive resistance. Hit me, please leave marks. Threaten me with unconstitutional and therefore illegal punishment, I’m traumatized for life.

            The mayor has no backbone, no principal.

            “Oh they made me”. Put you on a rack, beat you with whips, pull your arms out of socket as was done in the Hanoi Hilton. Thats making you. Telling you you can’t leave and holding you in a climate controlled cell without a homosexual cell mate? Hell homeless people would stay there for the hell of it.

        • It might be a false flag…

      5. Americans are special. Sure people were murdered by people in their own government in Countries like China, Russia, Vietnam, so on and so forth, but come on this is America. We have fought for freedom for two Centuries. Our people aren’t so gullible that they would allow a Communist/Fascist totalitarian movement to overtake them one law at a time.

        I read a definition of Communism as the end of Private Property. I guess that will come as a surprise to Real Estate Agents and Real Estate moguls.

        Donald Trump might have some issues but may be he’s the least of many evils.

        Don’t know. Just a thought. Anybody else want to chime in?

        • Guess you haven’t seen a Mark Dice video or have heard of someone named Ed Snowden.

        • The 10 PLANKS stated in the Communist Manifesto and some of their American counterparts are…

          1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rents of land to public purposes.
          Americans do these with actions such as the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868), and various zoning, school & property taxes. Also the Bureau of Land Management (Zoning laws are the first step to government property ownership)

          2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
          Americans know this as misapplication of the 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913, The Social Security Act of 1936.; Joint House Resolution 192 of 1933; and various State “income” taxes. We call it “paying your fair share”.

          3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
          Americans call it Federal & State estate Tax (1916); or reformed Probate Laws, and limited inheritance via arbitrary inheritance tax statutes.

          4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
          Americans call it government seizures, tax liens, Public “law” 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of “terrorists” and those who speak out or write against the “government” (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process. Asset forfeiture laws are used by DEA, IRS, ATF etc…).

          5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
          Americans call it the Federal Reserve which is a privately-owned credit/debt system allowed by the Federal Reserve act of 1913. All local banks are members of the Fed system, and are regulated by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) another privately-owned corporation. The Federal Reserve Banks issue Fiat Paper Money and practice economically destructive fractional reserve banking.

          6. Centralization of the means of communications and transportation in the hands of the State.
          Americans call it the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Department of Transportation (DOT) mandated through the ICC act of 1887, the Commissions Act of 1934, The Interstate Commerce Commission established in 1938, The Federal Aviation Administration, Federal Communications Commission, and Executive orders 11490, 10999, as well as State mandated driver’s licenses and Department of Transportation regulations.

          7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
          Americans call it corporate capacity, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture… Thus read “controlled or subsidized” rather than “owned”… This is easily seen in these as well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Environmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.

          8. Equal liability of all to labor. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
          Americans call it Minimum Wage and slave labor like dealing with our Most Favored Nation trade partner; i.e. Communist China. We see it in practice via the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two “income” family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920’s, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000.

          9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries, gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equitable distribution of population over the country.
          Americans call it the Planning Reorganization act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public “law” 89-136. These provide for forced relocations and forced sterilization programs, like in China.

          10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production.
          Americans are being taxed to support what we call ‘public’ schools, but are actually “government force-tax-funded schools ” Even private schools are government regulated. The purpose is to train the young to work for the communal debt system. We also call it the Department of Education, the NEA and Outcome Based “Education” . These are used so that all children can be indoctrinated and inculcated with the government propaganda, like “majority rules”, and “pay your fair share”. WHERE are the words “fair share” in the Constitution, Bill of Rights or the Internal Revenue Code (Title 26)?? NO WHERE is “fair share” even suggested !! The philosophical concept of “fair share” comes from the Communist maxim, “From each according to their ability, to each according to their need! This concept is pure socialism. … America was made the greatest society by its private initiative WORK ETHIC … Teaching ourselves and others how to “fish” to be self sufficient and produce plenty of EXTRA commodities to if so desired could be shared with others who might be “needy”… Americans have always voluntarily been the MOST generous and charitable society on the planet.

        • You’re right.
          It can’t happen here.
          Don’t worry, be happy.
          We live in the land of the free, home of the brave.

        • I’m open to someone who won’t be bought because he has his own money, wants to close our damned borders and send them all back, believes gun control laws aren’t the answer, and has a strong negotiating gene to fix our economy and not get us nuked by pissing off or attacking another nuclear-armed nation.

          I can respect a loud-mouth, if it consistently tells the truth.

      6. You vill obey, Comrade Obama says dat you must!

        Now tell me, WHAT RELIGION ARE YOU…..huh?

        Never mind vhy I’m holding diss pistol, IT”S NONE OF YOUR DAM BUSINESS, SVINE!

        Now, watch out fur dem svines!

        • LOL, thanks TH for the chuckle.

      7. If he was so appalled, why did he give DHS the property and information? I will not comply with any illegal searches or seizures. If we do nothing to keep our rights, they will surely take them away.

        • Because if he didn’t, they would have seized his electronic devices and done it the hard way. When you cross the border, all bets are off. It’s always been this way in this country, long before DHS was formed and the U.S. Customs Service was doing it. They don’t need a warrant at the border, they don’t need probable cause, they don’t even need suspicion. You don’t have to like it, but understand that it’s always been that way and there are piles of case law to back it up. This guy can’t sue and won’t get a dime.

          Now is this morally right? That’s a whole other issue. But it’s completely legal and always has been.

      8. Watch out for them hogs and his sarcasm.

      9. I wonder how many times this California mayor has supported, voted for, enforced and otherwise administered laws in his city that violate other peoples rights without even thinking about it.

        • ^^^that.

        • yep.

      10. They want to make it a felony to own a pistol or certain rifles. That should get you put into a for pay prison (I guess business is down), or put into one of those FEMA concentration camps. I don’t have guns so I’m trying to get some more points so I can get a free trip to a fat farm, I mean FEMA farm, you know what I mean, one of those places where they starve you to death.

        • …Their declaration of war on gun owners, which constitutes the need for the people’s keeping and bearing (their own) arms for the security of their (personally) free states!

        • I intend to riddle the scum’s bodies with bullets from my ‘illegal’ guns. Fuck them.

      11. Wolverines Baby, Wolverines

        Off topic: Put the all new Magpul furniture on my Mossy 590A1. Now old “Black Jack” is the best look’n shotgun in town. For those who own a Mossy 500/590, it is worth the $100+ bucks to do it. I saw such a reduction in recoil that I got a second stock fur my Mossy 835 “duck” gun too.

        • but you didn’t tell us what the furniture is

          • The answer to your question friend is… Wotch out fur them there howgs!

          • all new Magpul furniture perhaps?

      12. regime change on the way ???

        Saudi King Hospitalized for Dementia

        ht tp://peakoil.com/publicpolicy/saud…d-for-dementia

        Saudi is becoming increasingly unstable

        their turn for a little “Arab Spring” ???

        • Then, the West will overthrow the Saudi’s Arab Spring and interject their fellow authoritarian “Islamists” into the picture. If Saudi’s Arab Spring is really successful, or about to be so, they’ll send their other agency, “ISIS”, to be confused in the weak minds of Americans for the real “Free Saudis” and be the excuse for attacking the real Free Saudis and, if necessary, used as the “moderate rebels” to replace the Saudi Royals if they can’t be kept in power after all.

          • COULDN’T HAPPEN TO A NICER BUNCH OF PIGS!

      13. After reading the above 21 comments, I have concluded that nobody here knows a damn thing about the governments rules and regulations in Airports/Travel Centers.

        It is for this reason to this day I will not travel by flight or by rail. Once a person walks into one of these “trap zones” of travel. The person has already surrendered any “Rights” once they have entered these DHS Zones.

        That’s right folks, if you travel by flight or rail. You have voluntarily surrendered any Rights that you had before you entered those gates, and these people can pretty much do what they want with you.

        It’s your right to not like it, which is exactly why I choose to avoid these traps. Peoples monies have been stolen, people being molested, physically abused and good luck in proving your case – only chance is one may have is video surveillance and that is if they release it.

        Like the common “no free speech zones” that have been implemented and enforced. The DHS/NSA Travel Centers are “no human right zones”.

        If you are a person who does not want to comply with this authoritarian style treatment, avoid these centers at all cost. Make other arrangements for long distance travel.

        • It’s written right on your ticket or posted at the counter what your rights are, once you pay for the ticket you entered into a legal contract.

          You don’t like it, don’t fly.

          The only question I have, is just what the heck is the Mayor of Stockton doing attending a conference in China? Sounds like a big waste of tax money to me.

        • Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the DHS can/will/and has pulled this same crap on public roads in this country. Unless you have an impenetrable bunker that you are willing to stay in for the rest of your life, you are within reach of the DHS.

      14. I wonder if they shake down bus passengers who take that form of travel across country.

        • Aljamo – Yes they do!

          Airports seem to get the most attention, probably because it is what most people prefer to do for long distance travel.

          Then you have the subways of places like New York, and the El in Chicago. Same procedures can and do get performed on the public who use the Transit System.

      15. They want to make it illegal to write about your guns. There is an old saying about everything good either being immoral, illegal, or fattening; I guess they just don’t want any one to have fun besides themselves.

        Everything withheld is that much more desirable. Makes me want to go out and write a novel about gunslingers and to start a private firearms collection. I’m starting to feel all discumbulated.

        • B from CA-

          Fun to me would be shooting each and everyone of these traitorous fucks in the face and then some!

          • Golly gosh.

            Have you ever considered Anger Management?

            • I did, but they kicked me out, because they couldn’t deal with my temper… 🙂

      16. we don’t have a justice system in this country

        we do have a legal system

        there is a BIG difference

        Say what? Investigation proves four men are likely innocent, but they’ll serve life sentences anyway

        ht tp://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/07/1428795/-Say-what-Investigation-proves-these-4-men-are-innocent-but-must-serve-their-life-sentences-anyway

        yeah
        this is AMuRiKA

        • Sadly, misjustice is a world wide problem.

          It ain’t peculiar to the USA.

      17. The People are slowly awakening to this new order of things. They are finally realizing there in a boiling pot. Interesting times are here and a lot more of this is to come. I believe we are not going to make it out alive. Act accordingly.

      18. The pigeons came home to roost for liberal socialist sheep Mayor Silva. I don’t like the way he was treated, but it’s always joyful to watch a liberal socialist have to undergo the very treatment/laws THEY VOTED FOR!!

      19. I can’t believe he caved, gave passwords, what a dink, lol… I am ashamed of us all as a whole, stupid ass SOBs still bow down and subject themselves to this crap,
        Stop flying jackasses and drive your lazy ass there.. Lmao evweryonwe wants to bitch and bitch and no one does a damn thing. I bet we will still be bitching while digging our own graves cause the work is to hard, lmao what a joke

        Secret

        • Its incredibly ironic and a bit humorous to watch to bitch about others bitching. Perhaps you should just do something about it?

          • I do. Every day… Btw do us a favor and look up ironic. Maybe next time you can use the word correctly.
            Secret

        • Hard to drive to China! I know about how “we can see Russia from ou back porch” but driving to China and back may be a little farfetched! LOL!

          • Conferance call.
            Webcam.
            Or dont go

            Secret

            • Relax you two.

              You’re both on the same side.

              Peace people… Nay… BROTHERS.

      20. What’s ironic is chances are this Mayor is a Demorat who’s party loves and supports totalitarian governance. Now he sees, feels, hears, and tastes the fruit of his big government utopia.

        • Ain’t that just sweet.

          Reap what you sow buster!

      21. live near St Louis ???
        may wanna have that bugout bag packed and ready to go

        St. Louis Prepares For “Catastrophic Event” As Underground Fire Nears Nuclear Waste Cache

        h ttp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-07/catastrophic-event-looms-stlouis-underground-fire-burning-2010-nears-nuclear-waste

        the official response ?
        the usual

        “the plan “is not an indication of any imminent danger.”

        don’t worry be happy

        • Rats ! We leave today for a week of camping and go right through there.

          • Awwwww, I’m sure you’ll be just fine grandee… Happy camping bud.

            Just don’t friggin’ breakdown in the zone. BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

            Fuckme!!!

      22. Anyone who takes their cell phone overseas isn’t the brightest bulb in the lamp. You buy a cheap phone when you get there, costs a lot less money to use. Send an email with your number to the folks you want to talk to back home, let the rest go pound sand for two weeks.

        Or swap your SIM card out and enjoy the low cost, too.

        Wonder what the taxpayer paid for his cell bill that week?

        • Or you could just have a decent carrier. When I went to China two years ago, I could text the U.S. for free and receive texts for .10 cents with TMobile. Calls were only .30 a minute to a U.S. Number. If I called the front desk at the hotel, it was $9.00 a minute, though.

      23. The WAL-STREETERS pull the plug on stocks for awhile to drop the price per-share Oh is this the collapse you say.
        Well no now they are feeding the market just enough to get poor old mom and pop back in and drive the price back up. All the while they bought thousands of shares low and when it gets as high as they want guess what they sell for a nice profit for them. What a f–king scam. Now watch the pea and guess which shell it’s under. The collapse will happen when they want it to happen and no sooner, barring a natural disaster or a World War and on the World War it will benefit them even more, because they made it happen. Please don’t fall for this market scam.

        RTNTDODD!!

      24. Fart in their face.

      25. and this is what you voted for ? fools, enjoy the tyranny now, you thought you had all the answers when people tried to tell you about the corruption in govt, legal system, monetary system, but you knew better and we were just nutters cause we didnt vote for political whores, now fuk you deal with it.

      26. anybody seen anything from Jonathan Cahn
        about the whole shemitah FAIL ?

        I would love to hear his explanation

        • Satori,

          I believe he was spotted last week out with mikey Snyder and Alex Jones at the international Nostradamus convention. They’re all learning how to right their blogs in the Nostradamus ” quatrain” style. The reason being it’s so vague that it can be used for almost any type of prediction and leaves no traces when it obviously all comes crashing down, the bullshit can be easily swept up, recycled, and returned to the doom porn grist mill for more fodder for the true believers.

      27. Wonder what’s happened to Asshat?
        Hope your OK friend.

      28. Hey green tip. I think its funny you obviously dont know what ironic actuall y means… Look it up

        Secret squirrel

      29. Soory bout the double post. 80 percent of my posts dont show up.
        Secret

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