Wyden: “Every American Has The Right To Know When Their Govt. Believes It Is Allowed To Kill Them”

by | May 23, 2014 | Headline News | 181 comments

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    This article first appeared at Washington’s Blog and was sourced via Infowars.

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    SHTFplan Editor’s Note: We may not have drones dropping bombs on American citizens within the borders of the United States today, but the laws, regulations, and strategies currently being employed by the U.S. government could one day lead to the overt assassination of those deemed to be enemies of the state. It’s gotten to the point that intelligence agencies are now using “meta data” and automated computer analysis to determine when someone should be targeted, often without human intervention. While this is happening on the international front, who’s to say it won’t become policy within the United States in the future? 

    It’s hard to believe that we’re even having this discussion in America today, but ignoring the warning signs may well take us down the same road we’ve seen authoritarian governments take throughout history. Americans don’t believe it’s possible. Neither did the citizens of Russia, China, and Germany in the 20th century, but that didn’t stop their governments from committing wholesale exterminations of those who were identified as threats. Secret charges, secret evidence, secret judiciary panels, and secret kills lists – that’s where we’re at in America right now.


    (Washington’s Blog)

    Senator Ron Wyden said yesterday:

    Every American has the RIGHT to know when their government believes it is allowed to KILL them!

    That’s a good point, given that:

    The fact that a senator even needs to say that shows how far we’ve fallen.

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      181 Comments

      1. It’s getting to the point where we cannot even breath without being condemned…

        • They (the government) claim immunity from the morality that binds all other human beings, and that is pure BS!

          If an ordinary individual may not morally commit murder or steal, neither may the individuals who compose the government; and, of course, private individuals may not delegate their rights to rob or murder to the government because they have no such rights in the first place.

          BTW… there is no way to vote your way out of this, outside of not voting. Voting gives them (the government) a mandate, whether you like it or not.

          Don’t vote!

          Withdraw your consent.

          • The Census has the GPS coordinates of every home – all the easier for a Hellfire missile through your front door when they start going down the lists. You know, Red List, Blue List, etc.

            Hey, I wonder if I made the Red List yet?

            • Over 32 advanced civilizations have collapsed before us, and we’re next in line.

              “Collapses of even advanced civilizations have occurred many times in the past five thousand years, and they were frequently followed by centuries of population and cultural decline and economic regression.”

              “Empires rise and fall. The global monetary system is always changing. The prevailing social contract is always changing.”

              “But there is one FAR greater trend across history that supercedes all of the rest… and that trend is the RISE of humanity.

              Human beings are fundamentally tool creators. We take problems and turn them into opportunities. We find solutions. We adapt and overcome.”

              “Today’s system is just a 19th century model applied to a 21st century society. I mean – a room full of men making decisions about how much money to print? It’s so antiquated it’s almost comical.

              But given that the majority of Western governments borrow money just to pay interest on money they’ve already borrowed, it’s obvious the current game is almost finished.

              When it ends, there will be a reset … potentially a tumultuous one.”

              http://www.sovereignman.com/trends/nasa-study-collapse-is-very-difficult-to-avoid-13889/

              • As always, I agree with you…A sad situation indeed.

                • Government exists only by privilege. It has no rights.

                  A better question is when does a Citizen have the right to shoot a privileged official when violates it’s lawful authority.

                  Might I suggest that any time such an officer threatens the Citizens life, or the Law of the Land, they are no loner privileged but take on the character of a criminal which you have a RIGHT to protect yourself from.

                  • Ever see a movie called, “V for Vendetta”? A very classic comment is made by the lead character. He says, “The people should not be afraid of its government; the government should be afraid of its people.”

            • FOR THE GARDEN OF YOUR DAILY LIVING…

              PLANT THREE ROWS OF PEAS:

              1. Peace of mind
              2. Peace of heart
              3. Peace of soul

              PLANT FOUR ROWS OF SQUASH:

              1. Squash gossip
              2. Squash indifference
              3. Squash grumbling
              4. Squash selfishness

              PLANT FOUR ROWS OF LETTUCE:

              1. Lettuce be faithful
              2. Lettuce be kind
              3. Lettuce be patient
              4. Lettuce really love one another

              NO GARDEN IS WITHOUT TURNIPS:

              1. Turnip for meetings
              2. Turnip for service
              3. Turnip to help one another

              TO CONCLUDE OUR GARDEN WE MUST HAVE THYME:

              1. Thyme for each other
              2. Thyme for family
              3. Thyme for friends

              WATER FREELY WITH PATIENCE AND CULTIVATE WITH LOVE. THERE IS MUCH FRUIT IN YOUR GARDEN BECAUSE YOU REAP WHAT YOU SOW.

              Hope everyone has a good weekend!

              • When they pass the ammo take an extra helping

              • and plant some Fascists, just because…

              • Plant 1) Ak 47 Peace of Mind
                Plant 2) 2K Rds of Ammo for Being Frugal
                Plant 3) Other supplies to weather the Storm

                Water With Sweat and Tears of Anger when the SHTF!~!!!

                Hope you have a Good Crop!!!

                Semper Fi

            • Hey New Ordanance:

              You are on both lists, just in case!!!

              • Plan C is the “Cloak of Invisibility”.

              • OK. Lets VOTE Here. Unscientific survey.
                VOTE Thumbs UP for a Total Reset Revolution
                VOTE Thumbs DOWN if you look forward to FEMA Camps and a daily work slave program.

          • Howdy, YMWW, and I agree forget about “working within the system”. the system is broke and beyond salvaging. We have to start over from scratch. Bring on the ‘reset’.

          • YMWW: While not voting may withdraw your personal consent to a corrupt system it does not invalidate their legitimacy if they are elected by a small group of their cronies; and it is not an effective behavior to change the system.

            Their cronies and party faithful who feed at the public trough will continue their charade without you and without your opposition.

            Only mass opposition at the polls and within the confines of a political party can make the system change. All politics are local. Start there. How did that armed march on Washington DC work? Did they even have enough participants for a circle jerk? 🙁

            Politics is the responsibility of FREE men and women. 🙂

            • Democracy is a sham. Choosing the crooks that will subjugate you (without the choice of not being subjugated) is a dream come true for authoritarians.

              Once again… there is no way to vote against the oligarchy outside of not voting. Voting gives them a mandate, whether you like it or not.

              Take your “vote” DK, and shove it!

              I’m off the Rez!!!

              • When the game is so obviously rigged, the only way to “win” is not to play.

                • Whatever happened to physical protest? It’s how we got things done in the 60’s and 70’s.

              • YMWW: No, you are off your rocker!!! LMAO!!! 🙂

            • DK: I agree except that with the computer voting machines the “votes” will come out how they decide no matter what we vote. We must have hand written and counted votes to know that our votes count.

              As a kid I used to watch the news with my father. And I remember most nights we went to bed not knowing who won. Maybe the paper would have the results in the morning but usually it took several days. Then they went to machines that counted the votes and it took less than 48 hours, then less than 24 hours. And you would watch the TV or paper to see how the count was going.

              Then they started “predicting” the results and declaring the winner even before the polls had closed. The TV “news” shows now tell you who won before half Americans have even voted. They call it their projection and then go on to talk about the race and how it played out and they are doing the end game show when they have 2% of the votes “counted” according to the TV news reporter.

              We do not vote. We are not a part of the “election” process except for show. What do you think most Americans would do or say if they were TOLD on that TV news show that they did not need to go vote because it was all being handled for them and the news would let them know what was decided?

              When the news reporter stated that they had the final election results based on their projections after 2% of the votes had been counted, he was telling us all that we do not vote. It could not have been more clearly stated.

          • As has ben the norm for Jehovahs witnesses for over 100 years.. We do not vote for ANY government, in ANY country. We are free from blame in any respect as to the deeds of corrupt governments worldwide. We support only ONE Government that is very soon to destroy all of mans governments.. ” Thy kingdom come.. they will be don on Earth as in Heaven.

            There is no killing or war in Heaven… and soon all wars and killings will cease on Earth.
            Daniel 2:44 Rev 21:3-4

        • I will never believe in our government again.

          When someone says to me it can’t be that bad,

          my stock answer to them is, tell me one thing

          they have done for the citizens of this country

          in the last decade. Just one thing! Anything!

          I’m waiting……anyone?…..anyone?

          • Defiant
            YOUR SPOT ON!!! i tell people that everyday and most have no answer !!

          • crickets………………..chirp , chirp…..

            • chirp…………………..

          • You know defiant , that the US gov is trying to save us all from rising seas caused by global warming.
            With th UN’s help of course (agenda 21).
            I see that FEMA is “remapping” flood prone areas to include areas of the country that will be affected by the severe ravages of climate change in the future.
            And as you may have guessed , if you hold a fannie or freddie mortgage , well then you need to pay the gov for flood insurance.
            Aint that convienent? more fed money for climate change.

          • Bueller? Bueller?

          • The aquaduct.

            Oops, sorry, that was the Romans.

        • Fear NO man, for no MAN can take away your GOD-given rights – Constitution or no Constitution.

          They could burn, eviscerate, or otherwise suspend the US Constitution and you would still have the right to free speech, freedom of religion, and the right to keep and bear arms.

          A lot of people don’t understand that the Constitution doesn’t give anyone anything; it only acknowledges and purports to guarantee what is already unalienable through God.

          This is why the administration is trying its best to remove God from everything.

          Government Think = No God, no God given rights.

          • The only thing Gov/Corp can give you is a privilege. You must accept for them to control you.

        • I think we can still breath but you better not pass gas or the global warming communist dickheads will be all over you like stink on shit.

        • If this ain’t a police state, I don’t know what is… we see it, many see it. It just hasn’t gotten to the point where the majority sees it yet.

          And yes, during the reign of Hitler, most Jews refused to see it… even when taken to the gas chambers they still talked amiably to their captors– refusing to see. It was only after the door closed and the gas turned on did they finally face reality, ran to the locked door and collapsed.

          At what point do we wake up?

        • No shit!

        • if you’re a smoker you can’t!

        • THEY’VE NEVER USED DRONES and HELLFIRE MISSILES ON AMERICA,what about the home in INDIANA,or the farm in michigan,just to name a few,YES THEY HAVE BEEN using drones in america,the neighbors in INDIANA saw the drone as it flew away,AFTER IT HIT THE HOUSE of the people who were supposed to testifie at the LABOR money washing deal in DC..and the farm in MICHIGAN,where the milita were having a meeting IT “KILLED OVER 500,MEN WOMEN AND CHILDREN”,thats was your wonderful military who did that too………

          • Arizona:

            Do you have links? i WOULD LIKE MY FAMILY TO SEE THE TRUTH. THANKS

      2. Heil Obama! History is being repeated! America is no longer the land of the free. Welcome to our impending slavery! Sad!

        • Amazing we now live in a country that’s worse than most third world countries. Just read where people can’t even get out of their cars to fill up with gas in Detroit for fear of being carjacked. Black Gangs run rampant in most large cities and coldblooded murders only get sent to prison for 20 years and paroled after 7 and yet TPTB who are so lenient on your every day murderer wants to run around with their drones and execute who ever they desire. We need mass executions in this country, but where do we start! With all of the convicted killers or all of the treasonous politicians? Trekker Out. Si vis pacem, para bellum!

          • Id start with the treasonous politicians, Any that have ever voted FOR an infringement of our rights first, sitting or not,

            • Keep in mind the media personalities who are in bed with the shitbag politicians. Matter of fact they are worse when the pretend to be looking out for the sheeple.

              • Maddog, I see what you are saying, BUT, I think the real problem are the “sheeple” that do or do not watch said media personalities. The fact that the “sheeple” live their lives so blind to the world around them is only deserving of what they get. It is most unfortunate that “they” out number “us”. You know someone like that, we all do! “They just do not want to be bothered with thinking about their freedom. As long as they are not starving or watching people they know die, it will not change. I learned to do what I can for my family, let the “sheeple” suffer, after all that’s what they wanted. They prove that in their actions. Just my take, and it helps me stay calm. Release, release!

                • I have problems with sheeple who would say something like: “America is no longer the land of the free. Welcome to our impending slavery!”

                  …and all they have to say is “sad.”

                  It’s much more than just “sad. It’s
                  “Infuriating”
                  “Ridiculous”
                  “Unconscionable”
                  “Unpatriotic”
                  “Unacceptable”

                  …anything but just “sad”. “Sad” just sounds to me like acceptance and submission.

                  • Good evening, sixpack and everyone else. Sorry, but some projects kept me away for the last several articles, but I’m back in full force. Sixpack, I believe just as you do and I’m standing up and fighting. I’ve said this many times before and it bears repeating. NOTHING THIS GOVERNMENT HAS ANY LEGITIMATE BASIS TO IT WHATSOEVER. OTHER EVIL REGIMES ALL THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAVE CLAIMED THE SAME KIND OF POWERS THIS ONE NOW CLAIMS. Even in my late wife’s homeland of Cuba, the Castro brothers claimed such powers for themselves EVEN BEFORE THEY TOOK POWER. Within hours of all the guns being confiscated in Cuba, roundups and executions began. Some of the victims were brought before kangaroo courts on trumped-up charges, found guilty, and sentenced to death by firing squad. In a certain number of cases Che Guevara personally shot hundreds of Cubans. Raul Castro, the current President of Cuba, also personally shot hundreds of Cubans. Ramiro Valdes, another sinister figure of that regime, also personally shot hundreds of Cubans ALONG WITH MEMBERS OF MY WIFE’S FAMILY and I have that on good authority from someone who witnessed those atrocities. Guevara is long dead [good riddance] but Castro and Valdes are still alive. If I ever get to meet either one of them in person, I will personally take them out of this world. ANYONE WHO COMES TO MY HOME WITH EVIL INTENTIONS TOWARD ME HAS A CHOICE. THEY CAN EITHER STAY AWAY FROM MY HOME AND LIVE, OR THEY CAN COME TO MY PLACE AND DIE. I’LL PERSONALLY TAKE THEM OUT OF THIS WORLD BEFORE I LET THEM DO ANYTHING TO ME. Sorry about the rant. Everyone knows how I get worked up over these articles. MOLON LABE SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS braveheart

                  • Sixpack, really, is that your fault with my statement? You object to the word “sad?” You judge me for my brevity of comment and then condemn me without knowing one thing about what I feel or what actions I will take in this disaster, you wrongfully misjudge me. Too bad you didn’t really get my message. My logical emotions and reactions are no less than yours in this situation. Since I am not a follower of any majority, you know what you can do with your “sheeple” comment. Know of what you speak before you jump.

                    If my home were burned to the ground, I’d be sad along with other descriptive adjectives. My country is being killed and it is saddening. Do I feel the other descriptive adjectives you mention, absolutely.

                  • WhyDieLost, I’m not judging you. That’s not my place…it is yours alone.

                    I’m telling you what I FEEL about the content of your comment. The information war is won or lost, by the ability of each of us to represent our thoughts to others in print. If you’d like to debate the Freudian theory of what the words we choose means about our deepest thoughts, okay, I can do that, but there’s no need for that.

                    As far as my “sheeple comment”, I’m sorry you took it personally. I’ve listened to many wishy-washy sheeple talking about current events. They always use diluted words to express their diluted feelings, their SSRIs won’t allow anything more than that. They have accepted their slavery and submitted, and it shows in how they speak about highly-charged events.

                    They are “comfortably numb” and it shows.

                    Again, I posted MY feelings, not yours.

                    Incidentally, I didn’t take your personally-directed attack, personally. At least you’ve shown that you are not “comfortably numb.”

                • Salvador, during Hitler’s time, MOST PEOPLE were sheeple– refused to face the Truth. We cannot afford to wait til everyone wakes up before we do whatever it is that needs to be done.. the masses will never wake up in time… didn’t happen then, or when they massacred the Chinese, etc.

                  • People in the US now genuinely fear the govt. One of the reasons so few speak up. Just look what happened to Joe The Plumber when he honestly answered a question that Obama asked. The media are in it up to their necks. We on the other hand have no one on our side except for a handful like Cruz, Gowdy and a few others while the majority seem to be doing everything they can to collapse the country. Just look at the lengths the media and support groups go to in order to cover up for Clintons, Obama and others while nailing a Republican for even the most innocent event. People are scared and have good reason to be.

              • “The spin stops here”…

            • Cruz says they will vote to take away the first amendment. He’s against this but it’s a clue that the politicians are out of control and think they know better than the sheep.

              • Shooter are you almost ready to go shootin’?

                • Yeah. I’m going to Alaska in June but I’ll be back in July!

                • Maddog and Shooter, Me and my Cuz Braveheart are ready to join you, we’ll be back in about three years, so feel free to go ahead and start without us. As Cuz said in one of his earlier comments, bang bang bang bang,BOOM the last one was Big Bertha right Cuz.

              • I was thinking the other day, how do you find out who your neighbors are, if they are awake or asleep– I was meditating on this and the answer came as clear as day. You can find out if people are on your side or not… think about it.. too easy! (No need to ask them).

                This is important because if something should occur here like in other totalitarian countries, its very, very important to find out who is with you…

                • I’m betting that the one neighbor with the privacy fence, garden and full basement, and a workshop in his garage, that patrols his perimeter every night by flashlight, isn’t looking for mating felines…

                  • But the biggest clue is the prominent “no trespassing” sign under the motion sensor light on the front of his house…

                  • You guys live near me??? I usually use NVGs when on perimeter though…

          • Instead of going back to Nuremberg for the approaching trials for Crimes Against Humanity and the executions that are sure to follow, I think we should move the venue to the United States.

            The floor is open for nominations for the best place for public trials and executions.

            • I vote for my back yard. I have the big tree and everything. Im sure there will be someone here to provide the rope.

              • Manila Hemp is the standard for a rope necklace.

            • The front lawn of the White House.

              • Couldn’t do better than Defiants idea.

            • Can we use tenerite enema’s instead of hanging?

            • Battery Park in lower Manhattan…

            • Any chances of putting the trials and executions on pay-per-view tv, (So we call all watch)? Or- would you rather think this over- while YOUR government destroys another country or two?

          • To be truthful Treck when I get gas, I just take two tums. I also use the modified Lord’s prayer. Yea tho I walk thru the valley I shall fear no evil because my conscience is clear, my Browning is with me. My Smith is close, my Colt is at hand, and I will never run out of ammo.

            • Para what a terrible thought, To have plenty of guns, but run out of ammo. Those bayonets on them AR’s seem awful short. Trekker Out. Free Men Own Guns, And Plenty Of Ammo!

          • Read that MT. Saw where the burden is on the station owner to have signs up warning would-be carjackers that the cameras would help identify them and that they better think twice before they commit the act. WTF? The story also went onto say that if they’re convicted their names and phone numbers would be put up on billboards. Again WTF? Who pays for that? How’bout the citizens of Detroit just put their names on a goddamn tombstone. These frikken liberal reporters and politicians need to be heel’d and hide from the barn door for this namby-pamby bullshit.

            • Be careful PO’d Patriot someone might say your a racist for not wanting to be nice to shitbag thieves.

          • Don’t you love it when a plan comes together? You don’t believe that this was not done on purpose do you?

          • Mountain Trekker,

            Worse yet, due to the policies of this administration…

            Murderers and other dangerous criminals who are illegal aliens may be arrested, but then many are RELEASED onto U.S. streets.

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        • Bob, I just finished that article. If I had been that lady, I would’ve been shooting in self-defense. All the cops involved in that raid should have their homes “SWATTED”. Plus, “accidents” do still happen also.

      3. If the govt. has a “right” to kill us, perhaps we better kill them first.

        • Was thinking the same thing Confederate.

          • Sounds like a marvelous idea.

            • Well folks lets face it, even with a 24 hour news cycle, if and when such executions take place not only will the public not be informed, they will out right lie about it if it is captured via phone cam. As it stands right now, ANY citizen can be detained, tortured, and summarialy executed without due process. The 4th Amendment has been destroyed. End of Story. We all can thank the Bush administration for authoring the “Patriot Act” for that atrocity. Now the real fun is beginning. The 2nd Amendment has always been a hot topic with the masses, and right now the war against the 2nd is being used as a smoke screen to divert attention from another real crisis. Precedent has been set to take ones wealth, fine, and or imprision someone for a conversations said in private or public. The Donald Stirling case is a prime example. Granted this man is a bigot, racist, and a downright elitest scumbag. HOWEVER, even if he is all of these, the fact remains he has been fined 2 MILLION for a private conversation that was recorded. This is just the beginning, now conversations are in the works to compel the owner of the Redskins to change the name or suffer the wrath of Congress. Now while these efforts might seem justworthy, they most certainly are not. And of course the war on practicing any type or religion well you are considered mentally unstable if you actively believe in GOD. Christians are taking the most flak right now, but it wont stop until all religion is dead. This is what is happening right now, and for those who stay silent even when they know that it is wrong. Then you are just as much to blame as those who are enacting such policies!

              RTP

              • Don’t forget about Cliven Bundy. A 67 yr old man. I don’t care what they claim his offence was they sent 200 heavily armed gun nuts with snipers and mraps to teach us all a lesson. This kind of shit must not be tolerated in America. I agree Realtime Prep we better stand up a lot more than we are or this is going to continue until we are all slaves or dead.

                • Trouble is Maddog, this is happened several times before. The whiskey rebellion, the tent city in DC where WWI vets protested that they didn’t get their proper pay for their service and were fired upon, Kent State, etc. You can’t get anymore blatant then that. Tyranny has one purpose but many guises.

            • ONLY legitimate option left. WE NEED the majority of OUR military HOME, and with US!

            • Confederate, Maddog, and PO’d Patriot, I don’t care what the feds claim, let them bring it on and see what happens. MOLON LABE SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS braveheart

        • The golden rule “do unto others as they do unto you and if at all possible before they do it”.

        • Count me in.

        • Good thinking, Confederate! If the government has the right to kill us, then we have the right to kill them… like a damned snake! If something’s dangerous, you better kill it before it kills you!

          Find out who your neighbor is…

          • This is MY COUNTRY, damn it!

        • So when is all this talk gonna actually turn to real action? I’m so tired of the tough talk and no action.

      4. Gun Show, Riverton Wy. Sat. 24 Be there! Trekker Out. Freemen Own Guns, Slaves Don’t!

        • How many tables at the Riverton show?

      5. The complaint has been that the government reserves the right to kill terrorists even if they’re American citizens. During World War II the US government would’ve had no problem with killing US citizens if they were actively working with Germany or Japan.

        The real issue in my mind is when it decides to kill US citizens on US soil who aren’t engaged in treason.

        • How we have changed, we didn’t even hang Axis Sally or Tokyo Rose. Or for that matter Atty. General Holder who is murdering American Border Guards.

          • or hillary clinton for watching four Americans die at Benghazi.

            • Hey Six, somewhat off topic but concerning Hillary, Bill Clinton has been quoted as saying that “Hillary has eaten more pussy then he has”. I would believe it. Look at her face, kinda of “glazed” over don’t ya think?

              • Confederate, back in the 90s, I heard a few stories about Hillary being involved with former Atty. Gen. Janet Reno and Donna Shalayla, who was Secretary of HHS at that time. I never could verify them, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they were true.

                • Wow, three blind mice, all of them pretty ugly if you ask me.

                • There were several articles available about hillary and her lesbian leanings. The articles were from an MKUltra victim who had to eat hillary upon demand. Can’t remember her name, but with the help of a CIA or FBI agent, she regained her freedom. It detailed much about SEVERAL people in high places, both past and present.

                  • Killeree Has Cleaned More Rugs Than the “Rug Doctor”

                    Yeah! She a Winner!!!

                    Semper Fi

            • This is the only comment I could answer your last reply to me. It appears we both could use some thought before posting comments. So often, the printed word is insufficient to fully explain all intentions concerning a given topic. I do not sit idly by and wait for destruction. My voice is heard quite often in my State legislature and the Congress.

              Rest assured that I will be in the trenches beside other patriots when the SHTF. I am 90% prepared for what is coming and will have no qualms about protecting my family and property with all means available. I don’t believe God intended for us to do otherwise. As old as I am, I may not be here when it hits, but, at least I am prepared for what comes now or in my future life.

              Thank you for your input! For me, I’m moving on!

      6. We are the Government. Who in the HELL do these turds in D.C. think they are.
        You had better kill me first because, if they kill any of my family or my group. May god have pity on their souls because I will not. This goes for their families too. An eye for an eye!
        THIS IS NOT A THREAT! IT IS A PROMISE!!!!

        AIM SMALL MISS SMALL
        Sgt.

        • AMEN !!

        • Sgt. With you 100%; to quote Will Sonnett “ No brag just fact”.

          River Rat at the ready!!!

        • Let’s not forget the Judge, Barron, wasn’t it?

        • Good evening, Sgt. Dale, and braveheart is there with you all the way.

          • To all of the above.
            I would be very proud to have you by my side.
            And anyone else here that will stand against the TURDS in D.C.

            AIM SMALL MISS SMALL
            Sgt.

      7. I’m still trying to come to terms with the fact that the American way of life was long gone before I was even born. It took me decades to admit it and I’m trying to work through what to do now.

        The question that lingers in the back of my mind is, how deep does the rabbit hole go? How does one know what to believe has happened and why, let alone know what’s going to happen and why?

        I guess it’s best to take heed of what’s going on around us and try to prepare for it (whatever “it” is) but I refuse to let it consume me.

      8. So why haven’t they used their drones already on US Soil? Talk is cheap. Maybe they are afraid the drones will miss their target and Pennsylvania Ave is blown off the map?

      9. I would suggest making a list of those who voted FOR the right of the government to target Americans, and keep it at hand, but also publish it on any and all forums, even if its a repost, let these POS politicians know that we have their number and will hold them directly responsible.
        4GWF
        NOMI

      10. Here are a few quotes from one of our founding fathers…who KNEW what was to become of our nation.

        These words still ring true to this day. Enjoy.

        The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.

        What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?

        Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now.

        I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.

        “Laws that forbid the carrying of arms…disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes… Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.” (Quoting Cesare Beccaria)

        The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it.

        The policy of the American government is to leave their citizens free, neither restraining nor aiding them in their pursuits.

        No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him.

        To take from one because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father’s has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association—the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.

        I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious. (WOW. Even way back then!)

        When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

        I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive.

        The god who gave us life, gave us liberty at the same time: the hand of force may destroy, but cannot disjoin them.

        In matters of style, swim with the current;
        In matters of principle, stand like a rock.

        The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all.

        The majority, oppressing an individual, is guilty of a crime, abuses its strength, and by acting on the law of the strongest breaks up the foundations of society.

        When wrongs are pressed because it is believed they will be borne, resistance becomes morality.

        Were we directed from Washington when to sow and when to reap, we should soon want bread.

        The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.

        The price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

        God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty…. And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.

        Of liberty I would say that, in the whole plenitude of its extent, it is unobstructed action according to our will. But rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add “within the limits of the law,” because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual.

        It is strangely absurd to suppose that a million of human beings, collected together, are not under the same moral laws which bind each of them separately.

        Liberty is the great parent of science and of virtue; and a nation will be great in both in proportion as it is free.

        He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.

        I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.

        I have sworn on the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.

        I have never been able to conceive how any rational being could propose happiness to himself from the exercise of power over others.

        To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical.

        In a government bottomed on the will of all, the…liberty of every individual citizen becomes interesting to all.

        I’m a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it.

        Say nothing of my religion. It is known to God and myself alone. Its evidence before the world is to be sought in my life: if it has been honest and dutiful to society the religion which has regulated it cannot be a bad one.

        The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.

        Most bad government has grown out of too much government.

        Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty.

        The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the Constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first.

        A wise and frugal government, which shall restrain men from injuring one another, which shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government.

        I never will, by any word or act, bow to the shrine of intolerance or admit a right of inquiry into the religious opinions of others.

        Sometimes it is said that man cannot be trusted with the government of himself. Can he, then, be trusted with the government of others?

        A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws of nature, and not as the gift of their chief magistrate.

        The right of self-government does not comprehend the government of others.

        An elective despotism was not the government we fought for.

        History, in general, only informs us what bad government is.

        If there is one principle more deeply rooted in the mind of every American, it is that we should have nothing to do with conquest.

        It is better to tolerate that rare instance of a parent’s refusing to let his child be educated, than to shock the common feelings by a forcible transportation and education of the infant against the will of his father.

        The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.

        I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just.

        The man who reads nothing at all is better than educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers.

        • oops. Forgot to include the author-

          Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)

          • We would do well to take all these quotes to heart. The Founders knew of what they spoke.

            • I like how the current tyrants in charge make light of these writings, they say it is “out dated”
              The only thing out dated is them and in my mind we are way past due of reminding these POS tyrants who We The People are. Wake up America, i know Im preaching to the quior here but it would be nice if people started opening their eyes to what is going on,

            • Heres a couple Founding fathers Quotes, you Never hear on any MSM..Nor on “many” websites….

              THOMAS JEFFERSON 18th c. American statesman.

              Dispersed as the Jews are, they are still from one nation, foreign to the land they live in.(D. Boorstin, The Americans)

              GEORGE WASHINGTON, in Maxims of George Washington by A. A. Appleton & Co.:

              They (the Jews) work more effectively against us, than the enemy’s armies. They are a hundred times more dangerous to our liberties and the great cause we are engaged in … It is much to be lamented that each state, long ago, has not hunted them down as pests to society and the greatest enemies we have to the happiness of America.

              Benjamin Franklin. (This prediction was made in a Chit Chat Around the Table During Intermissions, at the Philadelphia Constitutional Convention of 1787. This statement was recorded in the diary of Charles Cotesworth Pinckney, a delegate from South Carolina.):

              I fully agree with General Washington, that we must protect this young nation from an insidious influence and impenetration. That menace, gentlemen, is the Jews. In whatever country Jews have settled in any great number, they have lowered its moral tone; depreciated its commercial integrity; have segregated themselves and have not been assimilated; have sneered at and tried to undermine the Christian religion upon which that nation is founded, by objecting to its restrictions; have built up a state within the state; and when opposed have tried to strangle that country to death financially, as in the case of Spain and Portugal. For over 1,700 years, the Jews have been bewailing their sad fate in that they have been exiled from their homeland, as they call Palestine. But, gentlemen, did the world give it to them in fee simple, they would at once find some reason for not returning. Why? Because they are vampires, and vampires do not live on vampires. They cannot live only among themselves. They must subsist on Christians and other peoples not of their race.

              If you do not exclude them from these United States, in this Constitution, in less than 200 years they will have swarmed here in such great numbers that they will dominate and devour the land and change our form of government, for which we Americans have shed our blood, given our lives, our substance and jeopardized our liberty.

              If you do not exclude them, in less than 200 years our descendants will be working in the fields to furnish them substance, while they will be in the counting houses rubbing their hands. I warn you, gentlemen, if you do not exclude Jews for all time, your children will curse you in your graves. Jews, gentlemen, are Asiatics, let them be born where they will or how many generations they are away from Asia, they will never be otherwise. Their ideas do not conform to an American’s, and will not even though they live among us ten generations. A leopard cannot change its spots. Jews are Asiatics, are a menace to this country if permitted entrance, and should be excluded by this Constitutional Convention.

              OTHERS Not Founders of america, but important persons in History also…

              WILHELM II. German Kaiser.

              A Jew cannot be a true patriot. He is something different, like a bad insect. He must be kept apart, out of a place where he can do mischief-even by pogroms, if necessary. The Jews are responsible for Bolshevism in Russia, and Germany too. I was far too indulgent with them during my reign, and I bitterly regret the favors I showed to prominent Jewish bankers. (Chicago Tribune, July 2, 1922)

              HENRY FORD(The Dearborn Independent, 12-19 February 1921):

              Jews have always controlled the business. . . The motion picture influence of the United States and Canada . . . is exclusively under the control, moral and financial, of the Jewish manipulators of the public mind.

              GEORGE BERNARD SHAW 20th c. British dramatist.

              This is the real enemy, the invader from the East, the Druze, the riffian, the oriental parasite; in a word the Jew. (London Morning Post, December 3, 1925)

              This craving for bouquets by Jews is a symptom of racial degeneration. The Jews are worse than my own people. Those Jews who still want to be the chosen race (chosen by the late Lord Balfour) can go to Palestine and stew in their own juice. The rest had better stop being Jews and start being human beings. (Literary Digest, October 12, 1932)

              GEN. WILLIAM SHERMAN 19th c. American soldier.In a letter from Union-occupied Memphis, July 30, 1862, he wrote:

              I found so many Jews and speculators here trading in cotton, and secessionists had become so open in refusing anything but gold, that I have felt myself bound to stop it. The gold can have but one use-the purchase of arms and ammunition… Of course, I have respected all permits by yourself or the Secretary of the Treasury, but in these new cases (swarms of Jews), I have stopped it. (The Sherman Letters)

              MARK TWAIN (S. L. Clemens). 19th c. American writer.

              In the U.S. Cotton states, after the war … the Jew came down in force, set up shop on the plantation, supplied all the negroes’ wants on credit, and at the end of the season was the proprietor of the negro’s share of the present crop and part of the next one. Before long, the whites detested the Jew.

              The Jew is being legislated out of Russia. The reason is not concealed. The movement was instituted because the Christian peasant stood no chance against his commercial abilities. The Jew was always ready to lend on a crop. When settlement day came, he owned the crop; the next year he owned the farm–like Joseph.

              In the England of John’s time everybody got into debt to the Jew. He gathered all lucrative enterprises into his hands. He was the King of Commerce. He had to be banished from the realm. For like reasons, Spain had to banish him 400 years ago, and Austria a couple of centuries later.

        • This one tells you America already gone.

          “The constitution was created wholly for a God fearing moral society and is totally inadequate for any other.”

          John Adams

        • “The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground”

          And here lies the problem .
          “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing ”
          Edmund Burke

          And so it goes………….

          • “From time to time we must shed the blood of patriots to water the tree of liberty”.

            Thomas Jefferson

            • UHH……….
              I think the quote includes the blood of tyrants as well.
              Lets no forget the most important point here .

              • My apologies. Thanks for pointing it out hammer it is the most important part.

                • How Many Protestants and Baptists etc have Ever Read what the Founder of ALL of their brands of “Christian-Religion” has Stated?….Heres the Orig Founder of ALL forms of NON Catholic, Denominations.

                  MARTIN LUTHER, 16th c. German religious reformer.

                  They are the real liars and bloodhounds, who have not only perverted and falsified the entire Scriptures from beginning to end and without ceasing with their interpretations. And all of the anxious sighing, longing and hoping of their hearts is directed to the time when some day they would like to deal with us heathen as they dealt with the heathen in Persia at the time of Esther… On how they love that book Esther, which so nicely agrees with their blood- thirsty, revengeful and murderous desire and hope!

                  The sun never did shine on a more bloodthirsty and revengeful people as they, who imagine to be the people of God, and who desire to and think they must murder and crush the heathen. And the foremost undertaking which they expect of their Messiah is that he should slay and murder the whole world with the sword. As they at first demonstrated against us Christians and would like to do now, if they only could; have also tried it often and have been repeatedly struck on their snouts…

                  Their breath stinks for the gold and silver of the heathen; since no people under the sun always have been, still are, and always will remain more avaricious than they, as can be noticed in their cursed usury. They also find comfort with this: ‘When Messiah comes, He shall take all the gold and silver in the world and distribute it among the Jews.'(2) Thus, wherever they can direct Scripture to their insatiable avarice, they wickedly do so.

                  Therefore know, my dear Christians, that next to the Devil, you have no more bitter, more poisonous, more vehement an enemy than a real Jew who earnestly desires to be a Jew. There may be some among them who believe what the cow or the goose believes. But all of them are surrounded with their blood and circumcision. In history, therefore, they are often accused of poisoning wells, stealing children and mutilating them; as in Trent, Weiszensee and the like. Of course they deny this. Be it so or not, however, I know full well that the ready will is not lacking with them if they could only transform it into deeds, in secret or openly. A person who does not know the Devil, might wonder why they are so at enmity with the Christians above all others; for which they have no reason, since we only do good to them. They live among us in our homes, under our protection, use land and highways, market and streets. Princes and govern ment sit by, snore and have their maws open, let the Jews take from their purse and chest, steal and rob whatever they will. That is, they permit themselves and their subjects to be abused and sucked dry and reduced to beggars with their own money, through the usury of the Jews. For the Jews, as foreigners, certainly should have nothing from us; and what they have certainly must be ours. They do not work, do not earn anything from us, neither do we donate or give it to them. Yet they have our money and goods and are lords in our land where they are supposed to be in exile!

                  If a thief steals ten gulden he must hang; if he robs people on the highway, his head is gone. But a Jew, when he steals ten tons of gold through his usury is dearer than God himself!

                  Do not their Talmud and rabbis write that it is no sin to kill if a Jew kills a heathen, but it is a sin if he kills a brother in Israel? It is no sin if he does not keep his oath to a heathen. Therefore, to steal and rob (as they do with their moneylending) from a heathen, is a divine service. And they are the masters of the world and we are their servants-yea, their cattle!

                  I maintain that in three fables of Aesop there is more wisdom to be found than in all the books of the Talmudists and rabbis and more than ever could come into the hearts of the Jews…

                  Should someone think I am saying too much-I am saying much too little! For I see in writings how they curse us Goyim and wish us all evil in their schools and prayers. They rob us of our money through usury, and wherever they are able, they play us all manner of mean tricks… No heathen has done such things and none would do so except the Devil himself and those whom he possesses-as he possesses the Jews.

                  Burgensis, who was a very learned rabbi among them and by the grace of God became a Christian (which seldom occurs), is much moved that in their schools they so horribly curse us Christians (as Lyra also writes) and from that draws the conclusion that they must not be the people of God.

                  Now behold what a nice, thick, fat lie it is when they complain about being captives among us! Jerusalem was destroyed more than 1400 years ago and during that time we Christians have been tortured and persecuted by the Jews in all the world. On top of that, we do not know to this day what Devil brought them into our country. We did not fetch them from Jersualem! … Yes, we have and, hold them captive, as I would like to keep my rheumatism, and all other diseases and misfortunes, who must wait as a poor servant, with money and property and everything I have! I wish they were in Jersualem with the other Jews and whomsoever they would like to have with them.

                  Now what are we going to do with these rejected, condemned Jewish people? … Let us apply the ordinary wisdom of other nations like France, Spain, Bohemia, et al., who made them give an account of what they had stolen through usury, and divided it evenly; but expelled them from their country. For as heard before, God’s wrath is so great over them that through soft mercy they only become more wicked, through hard treatment, however, only a little better. Therefore, away with them!
                  SNIP….

                  Which BEG’S the Question of: How did we Today, 500 years After Luther’s foundings of Branches of Christianity Many Americans belong to….End up now with 50 Million Demon Possed “jewdeo-christians”?…What went So Wrong in just 500 yrs time?

                  Maybe a GREAT Place to Start for a True usa RE set is for all them projew zio christians in america to actually READ what Their Denominational Founder, Luther, wrote and compare it to Todays USA-Troubles!…Wake UP!

      11. The govt is setting the stage for more abuse of power.

      12. And every American has the right to defend himself/herself against any mother F&86%$%’s who wants to harm them. That also includes both domestic and international enemies.

        • Anonymous, AMEN to your comments.

      13. ” Americans don’t believe it’s possible. Neither did the citizens of Russia, China, and Germany in the 20th century, but that didn’t stop their governments from committing wholesale exterminations of those who were identified as threats. Secret charges, secret evidence, secret judiciary panels, and secret kills lists – that’s where we’re at in America right now.”

        The difference now is the American sheeple have been so dumbed down the government isn’t even hiding their intentions and some have openly admitted their plans.

        Its easy to see people, last night I told my wife the gov. would say the VA is all fucked up and vets should be put on Ocommie care. Today Polousy said the exact same thing. Total control is almost totally initiated. Having fun yet. Better start pushing back, resisting and going Gault if you love your freedom. I’m willing to die before I’ll except and conform to this shit, what about you?

        • maddog

          More people should know their history as you do.
          Maybe it’s too neeeeeegative for them to think about it.
          After all, 100 million executed here, 100 million starved there. It could never happen to us.

          “Neither did the citizens of Russia, China, and Germany in the 20th century, but that didn’t stop their governments from committing wholesale exterminations of those who were identified as threats.”

          Those citizens from Russia, China and Germany had one thing in common before they were exterminated..

          Yep, that’s right. They were all disarmed first.

          Remember:
          REGISTRATION – CONFISCATION – EXTERMINATION.

          Get out of paper assets and keep stacking. Ammo prices are coming down.

          • Maddog,more killed by genocide in 20th century then all the wars of that time combined,let those that don’t believe it could happen in the US know that fact!

            • Warchild Dammit! I try to remind as many people as possible of this fact. Unfortunately most are to stupid to understand the meaning or the relevance of such a statistic.

          • The libtards/libturds like to say these days they will be happy to take my guns from my cold dead hands. I can promise it WILL BE the only way, they better be ready and not just running the sewer holes.

          • DEEP SOUTH: History of, 1862…

            ULYSSES S. GRANT 19th c. American general, president. While in command of the 13th Army Corps, headquartered at Oxford, Mississippi, he became so infuriated at Jewish camp followers attempting to penetrate the conquered territory that he finally attempted to expell the Jews:

            I have long since believed that in spite of all the vigilance that can be infused into post commanders, the specie regulations of the Treasury Department have been violated, and that mostly by Jews and other unprincipled traders. So well satisfied have I been of this that I instructed the commanding officer at Columbus to refuse all permits to Jews to come South, and I have frequently had them expelled from the department, but they come in with their carpet-sacks in spite of all that can be done to prevent it. The Jews seem to be a privileged class that can travel anywhere. They will land at any woodyard on the river and make their way through the country. If not permitted to buy cotton themselves, they will act as agents for someone else, who will be at a military post with a Treasury permit to receive cotton and pay for it in Treasury notes which the Jew will buy up at an agreed rate, paying gold.(Letter to C. P. Wolcott, assistant secretary of war, Washington, December 17, 1862)

            1. The Jews, as a class, violating every regulation of trade established by the Treasury Department, and also Depart ment orders, are hereby expelled from the Department.
            2. Within twenty-four hours from the receipt of this order by Post Commanders, they will see that all of this class of people are furnished with passes and required to leave, and anyone returning after such notification, will be arrested and held in confinement until an opportunity occurs of sending them out as prisoners, unless furnished with permits from these headquarters.
            3. No permits will be given these people to visit head- quarters for the purpose of making personal application for trade permits.
            By order of Major Gen. Grant. Jno. A. Rawlings, Assistant Adjutant General (General Order Number 11, December 17, 1862) The expulsion order was immediately countermanded by the general-in-chief, H. W. Halleck, in Washington. Apparently the expelled Jews had immediately contacted their kinsmen there and had pressure brought to bear

            CHARLES LINDBERGH 20th c. American aviator, writer.

            Wednesday, August 23, 1939:

            We are disturbed about the effect of the Jewish influence in our press, radio and motion pictures. It may become very serious. [Fulton] Lewis told us of one instance where the Jewish advertising firms threatened to remove all their advertising from the Mutual system if a certain feature were permitted to go on the air. The threat was powerful enough to have the feature removed.

            Thursday, May 1, 1941:

            The pressure for war is high and mounting. The people are opposed to it, but the Administration seems to have ‘the bit in its teeth’ and is hell-bent on its way to war. Most of the Jewish interests in the country are behind war, and they control a huge part of our press and radio and most of our motion pictures. There are also the ‘intellectuals’ and the ‘Anglophiles,’ and the British agents who are allowed free rein, the international financial interests, and many others. (The Wartime Journals)

            NAPOLEON BONAPARTE, French statesman, general.

            The Jews provided troops for my campaign in Poland, but they ought to reimburse me: I soon found that they are no good for anything but selling old clothes…

            Legislation must be put in effect everywhere that the general well-being is in danger. The government cannot look with indifference on the way a despicable nation takes possession of all the provinces of France. The Jews have to be treated as a special people. They are a state within the state. It is discouraging for the French nation to end up under the sway of the lowest of peoples. The Jews are the master robbers of the modern age; they are the carrion birds of humanity… They must be treated with political justice, not with civil justice. They are surely not real citizens.

            The Jews have practiced usury since the time of Moses, and oppressed the other peoples. Meanwhile, the Christians were only rarely usurers, falling into disgrace when they did so. We ought to ban the Jews from commerce because they abuse it… The evils of the Jews do not stem from individuals but from the fundamental nature of this people. (From Napoleon’s Reflexions, and from speeches before the Council of State on April 30 and May 7, 1806.)

            Nothing more contemptible could be done than the reception of the Jews by you. I decided to improve the Jews. But I do not want more of them in my kingdom. Indeed, I have done all to prove my scorn of the most vile nation in the world.(Letter to his brother Jerome, king of Westphalia, March 6, 1808.)

            (1). Every big and small Jew in the peddling trade must renew his license every year.
            (2) Checks and other obligations are only redeemable if the Jew can prove that he has obtained the money without cheating. (Ordinance of March 17, 1808. Code Napoleon.)

            H. H. BEAMISH In a New York address, October 30 – November 1, 1937

            In 1848 the word “anti-Semitic” was invented by the Jews to prevent the use of the word ‘ Jew’. That’s right word for them is ‘Jew’ …

            I implore all of you to be accurate– call them Jews. There is no need to be delicate on this Jewish question. You must face them in this country. The Jew should be satisfied here. I was here forty-seven years ago; your doors were thrown open to the Jews and they were free. Now he has got you absolutely by the throat — that is your reward.

            30-Yrs After the Civil War era….

            HENRY ADAMS (Descendant of President John Adams) in a letter to John Hay, October 4,1895:

            The Jew question is really the most serious of our problems.

            REAL TRUTH History, MSM TV News and School History Text Books will NEVER admit to Nor Inform You of!

        • Maddog, braveheart is right there with you. NONE of this secret CRAP has any legitimate basis to it whatsoever. The only thing we owe to the feds is “lead nutrients”.

      14. Everyone needs to realize, that these so called elected officials, do not know what is best for Americans.
        We all are deemed a threat…….!

        The status quo cannot be disrupted at any cost.

        So many are still asleep, but those awake can see the writing on the wall, it’s only a matter of time till you have to make the deciding factor of what side you will be on?

      15. “THOU SHALT NOT KILL.”

        Remember THAT Commandment?

        On our coins we read, “In God we trust” yet our government chooses INSTEAD to trust in the following: Weaponized Drones, GMO food, Chemtrails, fluoridated water, devaluing the dollar, the Anti-patriot Act, and so much more.

        That Commandment is one of the principles that ruled Gandhi’s life yet even HE preached that if a person or nation was not capable of noncooperation with evil, that violence was preferable to capitulating in cowardice!

        “If you cannot be truly nonviolent, best you be violent than cowardly, because there is no hope for the cowardly.” – Gandhi

        – the Lone Ranger

        “Violence is that which violates, force is that which protects.” – Rev. Edward J. Brady, S.J., active practioner of Gandhian non-violence

        “Truth needs to be repeated as long as there are men who disbelieve it.” – Gandhi

      16. Change of pace needed!
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      17. I believe every voter has the right to know when there elected politicians believe they have the right to kill
        them. Did I get that right?

      18. We not only have the right and hopefully common sense to know who wants to kill us but also the means and desire to protect ourselves and fight back!

        • All Political Powers are derived FROM, WE the People. Thats the TOP Law of America as wrote in US Const opening sentence.

          Therefore If the “People” do NOT have any so called Rights to simply commit Random, Rabid Murder on ANY humans be they an american or otherwise…

          Then there is zero posibility for the People to Pass on such “powers or rights” to ANY Polititions or anybody they appoint to whatever fed govnt or state govnt dept’s etc.

          So the entire issue is a total falsehood, fabricated from nonsense and whole cloth. NO rights to commit Murder Exist for ANY usa citizens period…Ergo. No citizen that comprises the Body of “WE the Peoples” are ever able to convey such false right or power to the Prez or anybody ELSE within the Fed and State and Local bodies of govnt’s here in america period.

          And any fed judges that say otherwise are LIARS, Scam Swindlers, On the Take(bribed) or simply Too damn ignorant of the us const and Moral laws etc to even sit in judgement in ANY courts nationwide!

          NO sane american citizen NOR politition can ever honestly refute this as Facts. ALL of Their Powers comes From the People as a whole…Thats what the us const states.

          Thats why it begins with “WE the People” “BY the People and FOR the People” how can powers to MURDER the “Peoples” be in any way shape or form “FOR” the peoples?

          The ONLY exceptions are convicted murderers etc…And enemys in War…BUT then ONLY when and If it is a JUST war. And Plenty has prior been written fron St. Augestine up to modern days times on what consists of or constitutes a “JUST WAR”….

          CLUE HINT: These phony Mid east wars since the GW era and continues today are NOT just war since all has been perpetrated upon False LIES to gain support of the Peoples….Such as WMD’s etc…PROVEN false! Based on a Mountain of LIES with which to Then later obtain “Patriot Acts and NDDA’s” laws enacted…ALL based on massive LIES!

          Thats NOT just war nor Justified laws.

          If they attempt to murder americans, after ALL that as explained above?….Then we the People too are 100% FREE to REACT in KIND!…Since ALL power derives FROM the Peoples…..Them fed govnt asshole fools better be very carefull on just what they insist opon doing before it all backfires on Them!

      19. Here is a contrarian point of view to think about…

        Do you like your quality of life?

        Do you enjoy being able to afford to gas up your truck and drive it around in circles until you need to gas up again?

        Do you expect that there are groceries on the store shelves when you need food?

        Do you like having an electronic gizmo to tap on daily?

        Well, all these systems require rare earth metals and fuel to work.

        When the mafia in charge claims that “the American way of life is not negotiable” (Cheney) this is what you get. Ultimate use of force on a worldwide basis to keep the spice flowing and the FRN on top.

        .gov from top to bottom is like the town bully…the only way he will be beat is by the use of stronger force and better tactics. So far no one has beat him and he believes himself tougher than anyone else.

        If you continue to want your current lifestyle of abundance (compared to most of the world) you may need to put up with his bullying.

        When the bully goes down, so does your way of life.

        • “When the bully goes down, so does your way of life.”

          THEN SO BE IT. Take the bully down.

          Then I’ll start a NEW life…one that doesn’t make me want to puke when I open my eyes.

          • Sixpack, I agree. The bully has to be taken down regardless. If it means having a new life, SO BE IT. I’ll take a new life over submitting to any damned bully.

          • Thats wrong headed thinking. There are NO, ZERO oil, Gasoline Natgas etc shortages period. the USA alone HAS enough to last from 300+ to 1000 yrs at Todays rate of consumptions….STOP believing Lies by Tree hugging New ager atheists and darwinians that simply Make it up as they go to scam everyone else.

            There is zero reasons for america to lack in any such fuels. Other than current Fraud NO drill policies based on Faked Global warming crap. EVERY such problem today is due to BY design laws based upon Phony Unconstutional EPA’s agencys that are makeing UP rules/laws as they go.

            Its all BY design to SCREW YOU!…THERE IS ZERO Lack of Oil or Natgas or Coal etc…Rare earth materials same.

            All that Peak Oil nonsense, Population Bomb by year 2000 makes earth Uninhabitable crapola spew is just That spew crapola….New ager tree huggers have been 100% WRONG on Everything they EVER said for at least 50 yrs now…EVERY single Claim was False or wrong or both.

            What do you not yet Get.

            And like typical loser lib kommies, everytime They get Proven wrong or fake, they “Change” the Tune played.

            When Peak Oil is debunked as fake…Its changed to “Too costly to retrive whats still there”

            Global warm crap is debunked gets changed to “Climate change”….Climate change is debuked as assinine stupid, That gets changed to latest whitehouse climate alerts that stated “New alert on Climate released Today!…Global Temps are getting Warmer…AND…COOLER”!

            Ok so when all they are about is fully debunked its changed to “BOTH are correct! UP & DOWN at same time folks!”

            Do Not be a loser by trust or belife in such fraud new ager whack jobs.

      20. New Technology Development Pushed by Feds Allows for DATA COLLECTION ON EVERY Child

        “A new study released by the Boston-based Pioneer Institute finds that new technology development that has been encouraged through the use of federal grants has served to threaten children’s privacy by allowing the collection of data on every child.”

        The U.S. Department of Education (USED), however, in its report published last year and titled “Promoting Grit, Tenacity and Perseverance,” expressed a strong interest in MONITORING STUDENTS’ “BELIEFS, ATTITUDES, DISPOSITIONS, VALUES AND WAYS OF PERCEIVING ONESELF” and to measure non-cognitive attributes such as their “psychological resources.”

        “…the Grit report CLEARLY IMPLIES THAT FAMILIES CAN’T BE TRUSTED TO INCULATE VALUES AND ATTITUDES.”

        http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/05/22/Study-New-Technology-Development-Pushed-By-Feds-Allows-For-Data-Collection-on-Every-Child

      21. Keeping a little list, checking it twice.
        Everyone is thinking it, I’m just saying it.

      22. Those that enjoy working, just to buy groceries, fuel and housing with no way of saving may not care if a drone takes them out. Me I have seen both sides of the fence, traveled the world working. I do not recognize my own country anymore. This lifestyle we call life is nothing more than a scharade. Very soon reLiy will set in…

      23. There is a great old Confederate song titled “I hates the Yankee Nation”. It’s posted on utube and pretty much expresses how I feel towards D.C. (District of Communists)

        • The song is actually called “I’m a good old rebel” but there is a modern version called “I’m a good old American” which is superb!

          This Memorial Day, let us search our souls as to what those who died defending this country would do today, if they were still alive.

          • I think they would turn their guns around.

        • Educated Sinner;

          Know that song and love it!

      24. Two things to address here: firstly, the continuing encouragement of migration of a population into the West that clearly hates the West and has designs on mass violence and the eventual destruction of freedom and democracy; and the deployment of ‘machine killing’ methods on the general population.

        In Iraq, we perfected the rapid kill machine along with the British. By using quantum computing and the Internet of Things, it was possible to track and identify targets in real time and then deploy hyper kill teams to take them out. The tempo was continually ramped up until the insurgency was brought to a halt. Now this machine has gone global and we are seeing the consequences.

        I have to wonder what the f#ck is going on: why are we doing such evil killing and at the same time making things worse by importing more and more people from the very communities that bread this terrorism? It doesn’t make much sense. It won’t end well.

        • plus two Frank , i dont get it either.
          Seems like a self destructive path to me .
          Obama must be thrilled at the thought of America being no different than south Africa.
          I believe he stays awake at night dreamin up ways to have the UN reign down thunder on the American people .
          pure hatred in that man .

      25. They make it Illegal to shoot down drones, but the drones are there to kill you. What’s the call?

        • Shoot first, and forget about asking any stupid questions.

          • Sixpack, I’ll shoot them down also and not ask any questions either. I think I already know the answers anyway.

      26. We have no reason to take this threat lightly. Lines are being drawn along every socioeconomic, political and race category, TPTB are herding us like cattle into every imaginable category while the MSM works tirelessly to dehumanizes people like us, making us out to be kooks with shows like dooms day preppers.

        They are creating separation for the sole purpose of isolating those that still have an independent spirit.
        Currently they only have enough drones to attack high value targets such as; militias both authorized and unauthorized, private citizens will become targets based on Military background, political activity, religious beliefs and Meta data.

        The latter group will fall to LEO’s via bogus alerts that paint them as a danger to civil society and trumped up data, LEO’s won’t know care or even check the intel because there high on direct action, breaching and the power and prestige of the event.

        I know this for fact. I spent time around L.A. SWAT in the 90’s while in Special Operations and can say without question I’d never met a more egotistical overrated bunch of assholes in my life.

        From a planning standpoint they will start with high level individuals/citizens first. This will trigger Militias to group and create large high value targets allowing them to fix large threats in one single mission set.

        I’d recommend never gathering in groups larger than 4 and at a location that moved constantly with a high level of OPSEC. Have a plan of what your intent is well before an event like this takes place, what is your goal? Bug out/in, move to the threat/ID our wait to become a target.

        There are so many factors at this point because we’re truly under attack on so many fronts already. We are behind the power curve because we’re not organized for direct action, many of us may have a planned defense but most will conduct a hasty defense due to shock and human nature.

        As I believe we are in a generational war where time is on their side and they are content to bleed us over a period of decades this does not mean some unforeseen event will not trigger the beginning of a full on collapse that forces their timetable up.

          • Thanks for the nod New Ordnance, respect. Short of posting my DD214 I do have some insight old as some of my information may be at this point.
            This is a tough forum to get your point across, at times I feel I preach to the choir but still find it necessary.

      27. Honest Drunk
        > >
        > >A woman was shopping at her local supermarket where she selected a Quart
        > >of 2% milk, a carton of eggs, a quart of orange juice, a head of romaine
        > >lettuce, a 2 lb. can of coffee, and a 1 lb. package of bacon.
        > >
        > >As she was unloading her items on the conveyor belt to check out, a
        > >drunk standing behind her watched as she placed the items in front of
        > >the cashier.
        > >
        > >He said, “You must be single.” The woman, a bit startled but intrigued
        > >by the derelict’s intuition, looked at her six items on the belt.
        > >
        > >Seeing nothing particularly unusual about her selections she said,
        > >”Well, you know what, you’re absolutely correct. But how on earth did
        > >you know that?”
        > >
        > >The drunk replied, “‘Cause you’re ugly”

        • eppe.

          ooooowwwwwwwwwwww!

          • Sorry, maybe this one is better….
            NUDITY: I was driving with my three young children one warm summer evening when a woman in the convertible ahead of us stood up and waved.
            She was
            stark naked! As I was reeling from the shock, I heard my 5-year-old
            shout
            from the back seat, “Mom! That lady isn’t wearing a seat belt!”

            HONESTY: My son Zachary, 4, came screaming out of the bathroom to tell
            me
            he’d dropped his toothbrush in the toilet. So I fished it out and threw
            it
            in the garbage. Zachary stood there thinking for a moment, then ran to
            my
            bathroom and came out with my toothbrush. He held it up and said with a charming little smile, “We better throw this one out too then, ’cause it fell in the toilet a few days ago.

            OPINIONS: On the first day of school, a first-grader handed his teacher
            a
            note from his mother. The note read, “The opinions expressed by this
            child
            are not necessarily those of his parents.”

            KETCHUP: A woman was trying hard to get the ketchup to come out of the jar.
            During her struggle the phone rang so she asked her 4-year-old daughter
            to
            answer the phone. “It’s the minister, Mommy,” the child said to her mother.
            Then she added, “Mommy can’t come to the phone to talk to you right now.
            She’s hitting the bottle.”

            MORE NUDITY: A little boy got lost at the YMCA and found himself in the women’s locker room. When he was spotted, the room burst into shrieks, with ladies grabbing towels and running for cover. The little boy watched in amazement and then asked, “What’s the matter haven’t you ever seen a little boy before?”

            POLICE # 1: While taking a routine vandalism report at an elementary school, I was interrupted by a little girl about 6 years old. Looking up and down at my uniform, she asked, “Are you a cop?” “Yes,” I answered and continued writing the report. “My mother said if I ever needed help I should ask the police. Is that right?” “Yes, that’s right,” I told her. “Well, then,” she said as she extended her foot toward me, “would you please tie my shoe?”

            POLICE # 2: It was the end of the day when I parked my police van in
            front
            of the station. As I gathered my equipment, my K-9 partner, Jake, was barking, and I saw a little boy staring in at me. “Is that a dog you got back there?” he asked. “It sure is,” I replied. Puzzled, the boy looked at me and then towards the back of the van. Finally he said, “What’d he do?”

            ELDERLY: While working for an organization that delivers lunches to
            elderly
            shut-ins, I used to take my 4-year-old daughter on my afternoon rounds.
            She
            was unfailingly intrigued by the various appliances of old age, particularly the canes, walkers and wheelchairs. One day I found her staring at a pair of false teeth soaking in a glass. As I braced myself for the inevitable barrage of questions, she merely turned and whispered, “The tooth fairy will never believe this!”

            DRESS-UP: A little girl was watching her parents dress for a party. When she saw her dad donning his tuxedo, she warned, “Daddy, you shouldn’t wear that suit.” “And, why not, darling?” “You know that it always gives you a headache the next morning.”

      28. Japan dumping 560 tons of waste water from Fukushima reactors.
        Kill the oceans, kill the planet.

        When will they shut down the Pacific Beaches?
        When people start puking their guts up.

      29. When we all become enemy’s of the state, who is left to live “in the perfect utopia left behind”?
        The People Workers Utopia, Sound familiar?
        I think North Korea still uses that language to describe their “workers utopia”.
        Wow really makes you wanna sign up, uh?
        Where do I sign up for that Workers Utopia?

      30. All the government thinks is that they know what is right for every American. Our only right is to obey everything that the government says, even when they have pissed on the Constitution. Tic Toc, Tic Toc, Tic Toc to Midnight on the Doomsday Clock getting ever so closer everyday.

      31. Enough is Enough ! Prepare to defend yourselves !

      32. “Do the right thing” 🙂 …All you ex-mil, active duty, etc. that are in positions of authority or “in the trenches” staff who work for agencies that at some point may be tasked to conduct operations on Americans. Who do you ultimately work for? For the people…. Is your current organization/government agency ultimately acting in the best interests of the people? Which people? …The uber elite/wealthy that may be loyal to other countries and ideolgies that have no place in America? Remember your oaths, basic natural law rights (maybe I am using the wrong term here), read the Bill of Rights. Wake the Fuck up and Get your heads out of your ass. Is it worth dying for a “pay check” ?

        Maybe thats why we see more agencies (with useful idiots that cannot get their heads out of their ass) coming in to play? …Staff that may not even have military experience and no loyalty to “We the people”?

        You have families too, if/when war is started on the American public (or sectors of the American public) …”Doing my job”, “Picking up a check” bullshit lines are not going to cut it unfortunately. We have families too to protect. You really want to see the brutality of war up close and in your face?

        In the end, the “Good guys win”. “The people” are the Good guys in this one. Get on the right side of this one. If and when the time comes ….Turn them barrels, drones, unkown goodies on the A-holes planning violence on the American people….you know better than us who they are.

        Rant over, carry on ….Peace out 🙂

      33. this is the psychopaths that you voted for, they actually believe they have the right to experiment on you or kill you, how did America let these psychopaths take over the country.

      34. “When Their Govt. Believes It Is Allowed To Kill Them”. If the Sumbitches believe they have the right to kill me, then by all logic the converse is also true. So is it Game On Mf’ers?

      35. “Every American Has The Right To Know When Their Govt. Believes It Is Allowed To Kill Them”

        Perhaps this same shoe will be put on the other foot one day and the Gov will have to look over its shoulder to see if it is about to be picked the f*** off. You know what they say… what goes around, comes around.

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