What You Need to Do to Survive Ebola BEFORE the Panic Starts

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    biohazardThe Ebola virus is spreading and no one in any position of authority is releasing information to the public about how serious of a contagion this is.

    It was just a few weeks ago that the CDC and mainstream media claimed it wouldn’t make it to U.S. shores, but as of this morning, reports are flowing in from all over the country from hospitals that have admitted patients who recently traveled to Africa and are showing possible symptoms of the deadly virus.

    In Nigeria, where there have only been a couple of deaths reported officially, the medical community has formally requested help in the form of experimental serums from the United States, suggesting things are much worse there than are being reported.

    Moreover, the World Health Organization reports an explosion in confirmed cases over the last 48 hours.

    An analysis of confirmed cases from Joshua Krause at The Daily Sheeple suggests that, while the virus almost died out back in April, it is now back with a vengeance and growing at a seemingly exponential rate.

    What’s most bizarre and frustrating about all of this is that neither the U.S. government or the Centers for Disease Control have provided any actionable information or advice to the American public. They maintain that they have the facilities to stop any such outbreak and continue to tout the narrative that there is nothing to fear, because they have it all under control.

    Should even one single case pop up in a random U.S. city, that narrative will fall apart instantly. If someone in Georgia, Ohio, New York or any other state checked themselves into a hospital and are found to be infected with Ebola it will prove without a shadow of a doubt that all CDC containment efforts have failed.

    In such an instance where Ebola is found to be in the “wild” anywhere in the continental United States you can be certain that panic will follow.

    Take a look at the following photo. It was taken last week in Toledo about an hour after the city announced that their water supply had been contaminated with toxins:

    toledo

    Notice how every drop of pure H2O has been removed from the shelves.

    Imagine for a moment what grocery store shelves, pharmacies and hardware supply stores are going to look like within 12 hours of an Ebola infection or outbreak being announced on U.S. soil.

    Things will happen fast.

    Now, for all we know the CDC’s containment efforts are successful, and perhaps Ebola will be stopped in its tracks. But being naturally skeptical of our government’s abilities to mitigate such a virus, especially given the lack of any actual information from the CDC or government, we must assume that Ebola will eventually start popping up in the United States.

    When it does, the CDC and Homeland Security will likely announce a number of precautions that we need to take. Those precautions are going to include supply lists and strategies.

    Guess what 300 million Americans are going to do all at once when those supply lists and recommendation are announced? ( Look no further than the DHS Fukushima radiation announcement and how it affected the supply and price of potassium iodide)

    Here’s the bottom line: If you don’t have your supplies before emergency announcements hit the airwaves, then plan on going without.

    If you want to take action ahead of millions of panicked Americans, then we urge you to follow the recommendations below. They come from informed sources and will be very similar to what the government will recommend in the event of an Ebola outbreak or pandemic emergency.

    Emergency services professional Tess Pennington, author of The Prepper’s Blueprint, explains that the government will have specific protocols to follow on local, state and federal levels, and they’ll include widespread shutdowns:

    Understanding that our lives will change drastically if the population is faced with a pandemic and being prepared for this can help you make better choices toward the well being of your family. Some changes could be:

    -Challenges or shut downs of business commerce

    -Breakdown of our basic infrastructure: communications, mass transportation, supply chains

    -Payroll service interruptions

    -Staffing shortages in hospitals and medical clinics

    -Interruptions in public facilities – Schools, workplaces may close, and public gatherings such as sporting events or worship services may close temporarily.

    -Government mandated voluntary or involuntary home quarantine.

    Essentially, once this happens the whole system could potentially go into lock-down.

    The Organic Prepper and author of The Pantry Primer says that in this environment that you must take the No One Goes Out, No One Comes In approach in order to be absolutely certain no one in your household is exposed.

    I know this sounds harsh, but there are to be no exceptions. If you make exceptions, you might as well go wrestle with runny-nosed strangers at the local Wal-Mart and then come home and hug your children, because it’s the same thing.

    Once you have gone into lockdown mode, that means that the supplies you have on hand are the supplies you have to see you through.  You can’t run out to the store and get something you’ve forgotten.

    That means if a family member shows up, they have to go into quarantine for at least 4 weeks, during which time they are not allowed access to the home or family, nor are they allowed to go out in public.  Set up an area on your property that is far from your home for them to hang out for their month of quarantine. If at the end of the month they are presenting no symptoms, then they can come in.

    It sadly means that you may be forced to turn someone away if they are ill, because to help them means to risk your family.

    Now is the time to plan with your preparedness group how you intend to handle the situation. Will you shelter together, in the same location, and reserve a secondary location to retreat to if the situation worsens further or if someone becomes ill? Will you shelter separately because of the nature of the emergency?  Decide together on what event and proximity will trigger you to go into lockdown mode. Make your plan and stick to it, regardless of pressure from those who think you are over-reacting, the school that your children have stopped attending, and any other external influences. If you’ve decided that there is a great enough risk that you need to go into lockdown, you must adhere to your plan.

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    Here’s a basic supply list, provided by The Organic Prepper, of items you’ll need to weather a pandemic emergency:

    Those items should help with prevention, especially if you take the advice of locking down and staying home.

    However, we must assume that some of us, for whatever reason, will still have to make our way out into public. And with that assumption, we must also expect the absolute worst case scenario – an infection or suspected infection within in our own ranks.

    If you must venture outside then take a look at what medical personnel are sporting in highly contagious environments:

    ebola-suit

    If you’re forced to exit your home, you’re going to want to be fully protected, and that includes covering your hands, eyes, nose, and mouth.

    In addition to the N-95 respirator masks mentioned above, you may also consider upgrading to the more expensive N-100 respirators recommended by the World Health Organization.

    Or, go with a full facemask. Insofar as your preparedness efforts are concerned, you may also be able to kill two birds with one stone here and go with a full face mask that includes NBC (Nuclear, Biological, Chemical) protection like the US-made NATO SGE 400/3 Military Gas Mask.  If going with such a mask, be sure to include some NBC filters.

    For protection inside of your home, Tess Pennington of Ready Nutrition recommends building a sick room that can be used to isolate suspected infections or even to be used as a quarantine/observation area for friends and family who may be coming to your home as part of your group lockdown plan.

    Building a sick room may include supplies like:

    The takeaway here is this: You cannot depend on the government to give you accurate information until it is too late. Moreover, emergency services personnel will be overwhelmed and you will have only yourself and those in your lockdown group to depend on.

    Plan on no outside help.

    That means you need to have food, water, and other supplies on hand. Additionally, if we have a widespread emergency that brings down the commerce system you may need to head out to barter and trade with others for necessary supplies that may have been overlooked. In such an instance you may also want to have some precious metals on hand for trade. The Silver.com price for silver today is about $20. It may be a good time to stock up on some emergency ‘cash’ like silver eagles or pre-1965 US quarters and half-dollars which contain 90% silver. These trade instruments are recognizable and may come in handy.

    Prepare now, because as we have seen with disasters past, waiting to do so until after the announcements are made will be too late.

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      1. Chug 5 gallons of colloidal silver?

        Hahahahahaha…. NOT.

        • If ebola shows up, send your kids to school, it’s for the common core……..I mean the common good.

          • The red thumbs will be the ones that mistake your sarcasm for sincerity.

            • Yeah, it’s really amazing how many people are so clueless to typed communication.

              • Everything you need is to boil the water and wash your hands. 🙂

                • It’s Ebola. You don’t even need to boil (bacterial infections may need boiling, but viruses are wimps). Just warmed and simmering will be more than enough to kill it.

                  • @Joey
                    you’re not exactly correct. The organism is moderately heat labile,60C>144F for 30-60 minutes, or boiling for 5 min. Since the stakes are so high, I would advise boiling for a while, wouldn’t you? And I definitely wouldn’t rely on ‘simmering.” Here is a link with more info than the U.S. will ever give you:
                    http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/lab-bio/res/psds-ftss/ebola-eng.php

                  • According to some studies I’ve read, Ebola is somewhat thermal sensitive and can be inactivated via boiling for a few minutes. Simmer won’t cut it. It wouldn’t simmer any pathogen. High heat denatures proteins and unravels genetics material. That’s why it is effective. Low heat won’t do that.

                  • Rede2lead,

                    Anytime someone asks for proof that colloidal silver works is merely relating the fact they have not yet tried it themselves and their opinion is worthless.

                    I bet that no less than 1000 people that visit this website regularly would vouch for it’s effectiveness in keeping them healthy and curing many things from the common cold through the worst of the flu, to allergies, stomach virus, strep throat (for which I have used it successfully several times with my kids), etc.

                    Some have even reported using it “cure” cancer, diabetes, and arthritis. Since I have none of those, I am not qualified to comment on the accuracy of those claims. I will not discount the idea that the reason I don’t have any of these ailments, or anything else, is because I use silver.

                    Silver does not cure disease on it’s own. It is more like adding a second, more powerful, immune system to your body to assist the one God gave you which has been severely weakened by vaccinations and poisoning of the food and water supply.

                    Of course, you don’t have the guts to try it for yourself in spite of millions of people who have used it and continue to use it because it has proven itself effective.

                    As you lay dying, leaking blood from every orifice in your body, remember that you could have saved yourself for a mere 30 FRNs and an open mind. But by then, it will be too late for even silver to help you.

                  • @ Gods creation- which brand do you recommend?

                  • Joey google: “msds ebola” to see what it takes to reduce the infectivity of the ebola virus.

                  • It’s airborne you fuck.

                • So how did the doctor that has it in Atlanta get it? Oh wait affirmative action co workers touching stuff.

                  • He recommends “Gods Creation Brand” CS!!!

                    He’ll tell you that its too expensive to buy.
                    He’ll tell you that its so very easy to make.
                    He’ll tell you it really works well.
                    He’ll tell you that I totally agree with him.

                    …and I do.

                    Listen to him. He knows what he’s talking about. I don’t have much to add other than experiences of the same. CS is, literally, a Godsend. I’ve gotten into the science. I know how and why it works on everting GC mentions and more.

                    There is only one single point on which Gods Creation and I disagree and that is drinking a lot of it. Like more than an ounce per day. In extreme cases, this would be OK. I just wouldn’t recommend drinking more than about an ounce a day of his stuff (15ppm).

                    I would say suspicion or confirmation of an ebola infection would be EXTREME. So, maybe we don’t disagree after all, GC.

                    I guess I’m just chicken when it comes to injesting large amounts of it. But, to this day, I don’t know of anyone who has had bad side effects from injesting large amounts of properly made CS.

                  • Thanks for answering the question for me Ranger…

                    I do agree that under NORMAL circumstances an ounce or two a day is PLENTY. But when something overwhelms both your immune systems and your daily silver supplement, it requires a THERAPEUTIC dose of enough to handle the problem.

                    I was at one time chicken to take a lot of it too. But I reasoned that there could be no harm by taking a large amount for a short period of time for a specific reason, similar to a round of antibiotics.

                    You can’t take too much in 10 days to cause a problem, but you can take too little and end up not eliminating the problem.

                • Or in the case of Ebola, boil your hands and wash the water

                  • Selenium, disable ebola virus, and another good one is a mix of colloidal zinc+silver

              • These are all good suggestions.

                Lizzie Bennett at The Underground Medic also has some good suggestions.

                Social Distancing as a Means to Avoid Contagion
                “If systems break down due to staff sickness or death other diseases may spring up and so many are waterborne I would store as much (easycook long life foods and bottled water) as I could.

                Waste collections may be affected, thick rubbish bags, and several more gallons of bleach to keep the outside areas of the home free from pathogens delivered by rats etc. who will be attracted by mountains of garbage would be a priority.”
                -Underground Medic

                I stock plenty of thick large size garbage bags, mouse traps, and FOOD GRADE Diatomaceous earth (DE).

                Diatomaceous earth has multiple uses. When stored in an airtight container and kept dry, DE has an indefinite storage life.

                Diatomaceous earth is the fossilized remains of diatoms, an algae-like single-celled creature. It feels like powder to mammals, but to wax-shelled insects it might as well be razors. To insects it is like trying to digest razors and they die.

                Note: Diatomaceous Earth will NOT harm warm-blooded animals or earthworms. Earthworm farmers use it to treat their worm beds for parasites, fungus gnat larva etc. Earth worms are structurally different from insects in that they can actually digest particles of DE.

                I spread DE around the house and garden to kill/deter insects. If you or a member of your household travels frequently, lives in an apartment or college dorm, add a couple of teaspoons of diatomaceous earth to some house plants. Insects, including bed bugs will be attracted to the scent and will eat the DE and die.

                Diatomaceous earth is nontoxic to people and/or pets, so this is not hazardous if you have young children or pets who might eat some of it. Food grade diatomaceous earth can be used to safely deworm animals (cats, dogs, etc.) and people.

                There was a more extensive DE usage list on another website, but that website is no longer in use. I had saved and printed the free 4 page information sheets, when the website was up. Maybe Mac can upload the sheet.
                (I emailed it to him.)

                Links below with more information on Diatomaceous earth.

                  • @ KY Mom,
                    Thank you for this info, and all you do.
                    You are a most valuable asset.

                  • Mcdave,

                    You are most welcome.

                    Many post helpful and information articles and links here.

                    Take care.
                    KY Mom

                • I bought a 40 lb bag of diatomaceous earth and brought it into the house (so it is dry). But I left it in the unopened bag. Should I be putting it into another kind of container instead? The two websites don’t have info on storage.

                  • sharonsj,

                    I am not sure putting the DE into other containers is necessary. I did because I didn’t want to chance it getting wet or contaminated. We have a cat. (The DE is stored in my garage.)

                    I put some of the diatomaceous earth into large Rubbermaid containers and the rest into 5 gallon buckets with lids.

                    I wish I could post the 4 page information sheet that I downloaded a couple years ago from a new defunct website. I will search for it. If I can find it at on another site, I will add the link in comments to an article.

                    DE is also useful to help lower cholesterol. Just add about a teaspoon to cooked oatmeal (do this when you add your milk, cinnamon, honey, etc.) a couple times a week.

                    Locally, DE is cheapest at the Feed Store.

                    Be sure to get FOOD GRADE DIATOMACEOUS EARTH if you plan to use it for food storage, to consume or in the garden.

                    Hope this helps! Take care!
                    KY Mom

                  • sharonsj,

                    I am not sure putting the DE into other containers is necessary. I did because I didn’t want to chance it getting wet or contaminated. We have a cat. (The DE is stored in my garage.)

                    I put some of the diatomaceous earth into large Rubbermaid containers and the rest into 5 gallon buckets with lids.

                    I wish I could post the 4 page information sheet that I downloaded a couple years ago from a new defunct website. I will search for it. If I can find it at on another site, I will add the link in comments to an article.

                    DE is also useful to help lower cholesterol. Just add about a teaspoon to cooked oatmeal (do this when you add your milk, cinnamon, honey, etc.) a couple times a week.

                    Locally, DE is cheapest at the Feed Store.

                    Be sure to get FOOD GRADE DIATOMACEOUS EARTH if you plan to use it for food storage, to consume or in the garden.

                    Hope this helps! Take care!
                    KY Mom

                  • Sorry about the double post. My computer is acting strangely.

              • OFF THE SUBJECT but this is funny! AOL news: “Russia to World: Keep Your Damn Food”. (Putin announces new sanctions against the countries who sanctioned Russia).

                • From a country that has to sell oil and gas to buy on food, that’s a knee-slapper.

            • This list seems very short and most people on this site are ready. I work in the public sector around thousands of people each day. Several of us at work (who are not sheepel) have already set up our bug out bags for if this gets worse. My doc will give me a “Sick chit” and I have almost 800 hours of leave. It turns bad I stay home until I see how this thing runs its course. May not need all of the leave if we go full “Planet of the Apes”. Keep your ears up and PRAY, PLAN, PREP, FORM TEAMS.

              • Govt employees have that option at our expense.

                The rest of us are fucked.

                • Sucks to be you. Pretty sure my taxes cover my portion of the job!

              • I have to say that the false flag Ebola epidemic caused me to read and learn a bit more, as well as review the stocks in my supplies. Yup that commercial first aid kit I bought was missing more than I thought. I’m making a list and checking it twice.

                Yup I found a few things I was missing. I feel like Santa checking my list and checking it twice. LOL

                • Off-Grid Worming Recipe for Horses
                  (Most of these items you can grow yourself.)

                  Use a mixture of:
                  40% sunflower and pumpkin seeds,
                  30% tobacco leaves (loose pipe tobacco from the store works)
                  and the rest parsley flakes and garlic.

                  Fill up a gallon ice cream bucket and you can worm over 20 horses with it.

                  According to research, intestinal worms release from the stomach and intestinal lining during the full moon to breed. If you use a mixture such as this or others, the rough texture of the mixture scrapes the worms away and right out of the horses.

                  It is much cheaper than conventional worming, which can run up to $8/tube every 60 days.

                  And the horse manure (garden fertilizer) isn’t contaminated by the chemicals in the tube wormer. But what most people don’t think about is that horse manure tainted with worming medication is also tainted and will kill the good worms in the soil once the manure is on the ground.”

                  Ivermectin products in the manure will continue to kill beneficial stuff in your soil for 28 days post worming. Daily feed through wormer like strongid will eventually sterilize your whole place. Panacure or safeguard does the least damage to your soil.

                  • Horse manure is too “hot” to go directly onto a garden anyway. I grew up with a horse and a large truck garden. Our family rule was one year in the compost for all the horse manure. COW manure on the other hand can go straight on. But we never had cows. Now I do.

                    Factoid: An old pile of manure and bedding from stable muck-outs will eventually develop little white crystals in it. These are saltpeter. Has a number of uses.

              • Hey everyone, i told you all i would let you know when are ” ebola kits” arrived at the hospital i work at…well we got the first 10 today and have been trained on them, there are another 100 coming. these are the special decon suits and breathers. so i’m sure we’re not the only hospital getting prepared, 3M making money on this one! can’t let a good pandemic go to waste!

                • What city is your hospital?

                  • Philadelphia suburb

                  • Philadelphia suburb

            • Navy Vet: What I have observed last several days is that thumbs-downers are really out in force. You can tap into a Yahoo name and see all their nasty-ass comments. There was one moron with over 30,000 instances of him ripping into people like a rabid dog. Guess what party he professed allegiance to?

              I am honestly laughing at all the people who truly believe that a virus that pretty much sounds like a hypercharged flu cannot have airborne transmission through any means…there just is no end to sheepdom.

              You ever read the symptoms of the Spanish Flu versus Ebola?:

              The Spanish Flu caused all these symptoms:
              * Cough. Ebola: Check.
              * Vomiting. Ebola: Check.
              * Diarrhea. Ebola: Check.
              * Fever. Ebola: Check:
              * Sore Throat. Ebola: Check.
              * Difficulty breathing. Ebola: Check.
              * Difficulty swallowing. Ebola: Check.
              * Weakness. Ebola: Check.
              * Organs liquified. Ebola: Check.
              * Cytokine storm. Ebola: Check.
              * Instant death (some people going from being “fine” to falling down dead): Ebola check.

              You do realize what we are dealing with? And the sucker has airborne potential…even if they tell you it doesn’t.

              • Here is a REALLY interesting excerpt from “THE 1918 INFLUENZA OUTBREAK/The Spanish Flu Panics Canada
                By George Siamandas”

                “After years at the front, returning soldiers could not embrace their loved ones. Anxious wives would meet husbands at the station unable to touch them, or even get near. One, who did, died, shortly after their reunion.”

                Re-read that last line: If they touched their returning soldiers, they could die from the “flu.” ….sound familiar?

                • Consider reading these two articles:

                  ‘Did Aspirin Contribute to Flu Deaths?’

                  ‘It Always Is 1918 at the CDC’

                  Yeesh, far far too many people are becoming member’s of The Flu Hysteria Agency.

                  Also, check out Jon Rappoport’s blog, phalease.

                  • Does anyone, that is old enough, remember the Hong Kong Flu Pandemic of 1968 & ’69?

                    I sure as hell do, cause I was 12 and almost died from it. People scoff at my story but it is true.
                    It started out like any cold/flu bug. After a week, I was weak; to the point i couldn’t hardly get out of bed. No mom at home, and Dad was so stingy with a dollar he kept saying “it’s just a cold, you’ll get better.”

                    Approaching two weeks I had blisters covering 80% of my mouth and throat (probably my upper stomach too). Had it not been for my grandpa coming to check on me and consequently taking me to the doctor, I would have died.

                    I remember Dad arguing with his own Dad that he didn’t want him to take me because he thought I was faking to get out of work around the house (Dad was a slave driver and a dumbass). Grandpa said he was taking me and he would pay for it since Dad was too stingy. Dad said no I’ll take him next week and I’ll pay for it.

                    Grandpa didn’t listen. The doctor said I needed to be in the hospital and that I would have been dead by the next week, if he had waited.

                    It was a long recovery. I never forgave my Dad, cause he still thinks he was right. he is still a dumbass, greedy, old fart.

                    That flu strain killed about 1 million people worldwide and 33,800 in the USA.

                    I won’t take a flu shot though; not now.
                    A friend of mine had never had the flu until he got a shot last year. He came down with it and was sick for two weeks. Claims he will never take another.

                • The 1918 flu was pretty much what ended WW1, both side were looking at all their soldiers dying if they didn’t get them out of the trenches.

                  It was tough enough surviving the flu at home under the best of care in 1918, but soldiers living in trenches were as good as dead.

                  Yup it was the Spanish flu that ended WW1.

                  The flu loves the cold and survives beets at about 40F.

                  Ebola loves the heat and high humidity and won’t survive the winter in the US. It’s really not a problem for us!

                  • I think you’re bullshitting, Plan twice, prep once.

                    What ended the war was, as Ralph Raico documents in, ‘America Goes to War’, “As the British leaders had planned and hoped, the Germans were starving.”

                    And, as John J. Dwyer documents in ‘The United States and World War I’:

                    “On a more personal level, the German nation itself faced the danger of mass starvation. Between the November 11, 1918 armistice, which stopped fighting, and the signing of the Versailles treaty, the British and French insisted on continuing the strangling naval blockade of Germany. Future U.S. President Herbert Hoover arranged for the
                    delivery of hundreds of millions of tons of free American food to the malnourished Germans, only to have the French, Italians, and British disallow it and accuse the Americans of selfish ulterior motives for the act. During this time, eight hundred adults were dying of starvation every day in northern Germany alone. By the final tally, hundreds of thousands of Germans had starved. One disgusted British journalist visiting a Cologne, Germany hospital described “rows of babies feverish from want of food, exhausted by privation to the point where their little limbs were like slender wands, their
                    expression hopeless, and their faces full of pain.”

                    If you don’t know your history, you ain’t likely to know where you’re going.

                  • Where are you getting your information? No offense, Plan twice, prep once, but Ebola does very well in the cold and if too cold will only become inactive until it warms up. You might need to learn the mecahnisms of viral behavior before in regards to temperature regulation.

                  • Thank you Helot! You saved me a lot of keypunching.

              • PWY … I’ve been a believer in airborne transmission vector for a while now. When I first heard about the two doctors that have died. the hundred or so med. workers infected and dieing and the American doctor who is infected, people who are trained in the procedures for infectious disease control, the exponential progression of the disease through the population despite an all out effort at control, what other conclusion can a rational person draw?

                A virus that kills all of its hosts will eventually die out when it runs out of hosts. That’s basically how outbreaks have been controlled in the past. Nobody in, nobody out, most everyone in dead. I’m surmising that this may be a mutated strain that has evolved to the airborne vector while perhaps giving up some lethality.

                • When it first began, the Spanish Flu (Sp. Flu) was noticed as popping up in pockets. It would come and go in small numbers, until people saw a strange 3-day illness. Then a few months later in 1918, the world blew up with Spanish Flu.

                  The mortality rate percentage of Spanish Flu (hundreds of millions infected; 5-20% of whom died (numbers vary)), which was relatively small compared to Ebola’s current 60% mortality rate (which was 90-100% just a few years ago), but I think that had more to do with world population numbers, plus back then, if a pocket of infection erupted, there were NOT travelers of the multitude needed to spread it worldwide — until WWI.

                  So that lack of travel and the time period between first encounter and 1918, I would bet, allowed the Spanish Flu to mutate down to more transmissibility and less overall virulence.

                  Not so the case in Ebola: Too many people, too much travel, with too soon a time. Sixty percent mortality rate with Ebola now.

                  IF it ends up infecting at the same rate that Sp.Flu did (hundreds of millions)…FEMA won’t have enough caskets.

                  We will have to see.

                  • Flu is also transmitted by birds, global migratory birds brought it to nearly every continent in short order.

                    Illegal Immigrants coming to the US generally travel so slowly that if they had Ebola there would be a noticeable epidemic in Central America first. I’m not seeing this.

                    Ebola is just a big Obama false flag.

                    It is prudent to think in terms of a pandemic for the purpose of being prepared, but Ebola unless reengineered in a lab is little risk in North America.

                  • Mass Cremations, most safe I think

                  • Do you realize just how many caskets FEMA has? This is what they were preping for. I beleive the goverment has the cure but we will not get it intill a millatary state is acheived.

                • Sorry Navy Vet: I was only responding to your first statement regarding red thumbs. I didn’t realize the entire thread was connected, and should have placed a separator mark — too much multitasking…sorry!!

                • … Until,the poor slobs who have to burry the dead get infected.

                • Affirmative action workers will spread the disease via poor infection control.

              • It doesn’t have air borne potential. You don’t have any real proof behind that, either. Just because it makes you cough doesn’t mean it can be caught through air borne means.

                Staying on point, the people who have symptoms… Theyre very common symptoms of various other, less lethal diseases. Yes, in movies people bleed from their eyes and pores, but in reality that’s not too common. Most people die from dehydration and organ failure. The incubation cycle is often around 20 days, so this will likely discount some of these people.

                Not to say it could somehow get contracted and spread briefly, but these people have dealt with dangerous contagions before. Yes mistakes happen, but they dedicate their lives to the craft. It makes sense to be ready for the unknown, but be educated on the facts first before bunkering down. Ebola has a poor contraction rate due to its incubation cycle (sounds counter intuitive) but I have faith it is being handled.

                • MikeB,
                  Public Health Agengy of Canada thinks it IS airborne, also.

                  “In the laboratory, infection through small-particle aerosols has been demonstrated in primates, and airborne spread among humans is STRONGLY SUSPECTED, although it has not yet been conclusively demonstrated (1, 6, 13).” (emphasis mine)

                  Reference: http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/lab-bio/res/psds-ftss/ebola-eng.php

                  Look under “mode of transmission.”

                  • Many U.S. news sources are reporting that DIRECT CONTACT is needed to spread Ebola.

                    However, here is another article about Ebola spreading airborne.

                    From Pigs to Monkeys, Ebola Goes Airborne
                    Nov. 21, 2012
                    “…researchers from the National Centre for Foreign Animal Disease, the University of Manitoba, and the Public Health Agency of Canada, observed transmission of Ebola from pigs to monkeys. They first inoculated a number of piglets with the Zaire strain of the Ebola virus.”

                    “The piglets were then placed in a room with four cynomolgus macaques, a species of monkey commonly used in laboratories. The animals were separated by wire cages to prevent direct contact between the species.

                    Within a few days, the inoculated piglets showed clinical signs of infection indicative of Ebola infection. In pigs, Ebola generally causes respiratory illness and increased temperature. Nine days after infection, all piglets appeared to have recovered from the disease.

                    Within eight days of exposure, two of the four monkeys showed signs of Ebola infection. Four days later, the remaining two monkeys were sick too…

                    There are three likely candidates for the route of transmission: airborne, droplet, or fomites.”
                    -Healthmap dot org

                    “The virus causing this outbreak, Zaire Ebola virus, is the deadliest type of Ebola virus.”
                    “in previous outbreaks it has killed up to 90 percent of those it infected.”
                    -Fox News

                • I am reading this 2 days after you posted – your information is incorrect. It is now proven that it is airborne.

                  • Please cite your references, thank you. CDC says it is not an airborne viable virus, this morning, Fox, CNBC news.

                  • SPECIFCALLY DEFINE “AIRBORNE”. An “infected individual sneezes/coughs in your face. Or, is the “virus” simply “floating around” in the atmosphere without “intimate contact”.

                    I am calling BULLSHIT on this SHIT! False flag kiss my ass crap! Yes, I am in a NO BULLSHIT frame of mind tonight.

                  • TP Snodgrass–

                    These are the same ‘experts’ who recently exposed some of their own people to Anthrax and found vials of Smallpox in a freezer after overlooking that freezer for decades. Yea, I trust them without question.

                • When people sneeze, they expell snot up to 12′, if I remember correctly. These ‘droplets’ are bodily fluid. So I guess Ebola is technically not airborne, but close enough.

              • I have a bad case of hand, foot, & mouth disease right now (not a pun) from taking care of a sick kid who had lessor symptoms. It comes with a sore throat, cough, etc. Most of the blisters are on my hands and feet. I had to learn to walk differently and have no feeling in my fingertips as I type this. It will be gone in a week which is different from Ebola. What is similar is that it too is not airborne. Like Ebola it can only be transmitted through body fluids including the puss from the blisters. Just because some things make sense to ones on mind doesn’t make them so.

                • In the last two years more folks have had this than any time I can recall. It went through church and we were all pretty unhappy. Some of the kids had huge blisters on their hands. I’ve never seen anything like it. Pray you feel better quickly.

              • It may not be airborn at present, but if it keeps evolving, it may very well get to that point.

              • Please cite your medical references for the “airborne potential”, otherwise stop spreading the BS. Thanks.

            • Actually…some of us have managed to attract some stalkers. Anything we post gets a thumbs-down.

            • @ Navy Vet

              I once had a girlfriend that I had to explain jokes to. She just never got the punchline and it would ruin the best of jokes. Even knock knock jokes had to be explained to her. She was from a different country and a different culture. That could explain some of the red thumbs……….she could be on SHTF with multiple accounts.

          • I love dripping sarcasm! It’s a code Obama can’t break.

            Oops sorry, that was sarcastic as well wasn’t it?

        • Ebola has definitely made its way to Saudi Arabia. Reuters reported today that a man, who recently returned from one of the outbreak countries and suspected of having the disease, has died.

          RIYADH (Reuters) – A Saudi Arabian man suspected of having contracted the Ebola virus during a recent business trip to Sierra Leone died early on Wednesday in Jeddah, the Health Ministry said.

          • pity it didn’t spread throughout Mecca and Medina during Ramadaan

            • Missed it by that much! Ramadan ended 28-JUL-14 (I had to look it up)

            • Yeah and waited for the last day of the month and the last sundown when they eat. Their last supper….

          • As far as government announcements go, they don’t mean a dern thing… reminds me of what occurred ater 9-11, when it was announced the air was safe to breath after the collapse of the buildings. This of course, was a bloody lie! On Bush’s desk was a report from the geological society saying the air was as toxic as drain cleaners– all sorts of heavy metals, asbestos, etc. Yet Bush’s orders was to get the stock markets up and running at any cost and so he announced the air was fine and the clean up crew went in…

        • I get bashed every time I doubt or question the validity of the “cure” so I figured I would kick the hornets nest first.
          Bring me proof or quit claiming things you can’t prove.
          If the stuff written here is even half true about CS then there would be a huge demand for it and people everywhere would know of its supposed benefits.
          That’s just my take on it of course.

          • CS doesn’t get widespread play because it’s not being hocked by the Med./Pharma industry.

            If it is a cure all, I’m not saying that it is or isn’t, think what that would do to their profits, especially Pharma.

            • IF there is any value to it… why wouldn’t they also want to profit off of it? File a patent on it and own it like they always do? Inject it into foods and BS like they claim with everything else? An independent doctor would be all over the idiot box and selling its success like hot cakes by now…
              The science either doesn’t hold weight or they have better things available and on the market already. That’s why.

              • As it is so simple to make ones self the reason there is no huge pharmacy push,there are some patents out there in regards to CS.Only a fool would spend a lot of money on CS or any product that they could easily make themselves.

                • “Only a fool would spend a lot of money on CS or any product that they could easily make themselves.”

                  We live in a world full of these people…
                  They buy bottled water because they believe it is spring fed and refuse to do anything for themselves because big brother will pick up where they left off in their little fantasy world.

                  • I buy bottled water as part of my long term survival plan. A couple weeks supply will do for us and a guest or two. A gallon per day, per person is the rule.

                    The wife likes the convenience and takes a bottle everywhere, so I get to rotate my supply and keep it fresh. It works for me!

                  • I hear Desani is tap water run through an R.O. unit.

              • red … I don’t think CS is patentable at this point because it’s been in the public domain for so long, actually dating back to ancient times.. That’s the biggest reason that it wouldn’t be endorsed by Pharma. No money in it. Do you really think that Pharma or any other medical organization would fund the research required to gain the Med/Pharma establishment’s approval for an unpatentable therapy, one that would, if it is a cure all, basicaly put them all out of business?

                Should any doctor break with the mainstream medical establishment and start promoting it, he/she would be set upon by the FDA, the AMA, the CDC and his/her state licensing board and told to cease and desist or risk loosing his/her medical license and thus the ability to earn a living for promoting a therapy that the Med/Pharma establishment will say has no scientific merit, whether it does or it doesn’t. A pretty powerful motivator.

                If you think that the Med/Pharma establishment isn’t as much or more about making money as it is about the altruism of saving lives, please explain the incestuous, corrupt relationship between the FDA; the government agency that is supposed to oversee Pharma, and the Med/Pharma establishment.

                Notice that I still haven’t said whether I personally believe that it’s a cure all or not. I’m just playing devils advocate, pointing out why I believe the Med/Pharma establishment wouldn’t put their full weight behind CS.

                • CS can turn your skin grayish-purple. Google “colloidal silver” and then click on ” images”. Some pretty horrific-looking examples there.

                  The body can’t get rid of heavy metals, especially when taken in regularly over time.

                  • what about Iron,, we need it and take it in every day..its a heavy metal as is zinc, magnesium, even aluminum is part of our diet

                  • What about Lead? Braveheart is always going to feed it to someone. Is that good or bad!

                  • I have done metal for decades and am just fine!Halen/Crue/Maiden/Zep/Tesla/Purple/Salty Dog/Scorpions and many other metals,still fine thank you!

                  • Iron, zinc, magnesium, and aluminum are not classified as heavy metals.

                  • “””CS can turn your skin grayish-purple. Google “colloidal silver” and then click on ” images”. Some pretty horrific-looking examples there.””

                    The blue people you see are the same two schills promoted by pharma to scare people like you. Neither one has EVER taken a true colloidal silver.

                    On the other hand, millions of Americans take true colloidal silver all the time. Where are their pictures? There are none, because it will not turn you blue if properly made and used.

                    “””The body can’t get rid of heavy metals, especially when taken in regularly over time. “””

                    Silver is a NON TOXIC mineral, and removed from the body just like any other mineral. It DOES NOT build up in the body and what you take today does not stay there forever.

                    Within 30 days of stopping, ALL of it has been removed through the urine and feces.

                    If you are going to comment, get clue first.

              • A drug used for over 2000 years colchicine(for gout) was cheaper than dirt until a drug company decided to do FDA testing to make sure it was safe, and now costs over $300 a month since they have a monopoly on it in the US.

              • A drug used for over 2000 years colchicine(for gout) was cheaper than dirt until a drug company decided to do FDA testing to make sure it was safe, and now costs over $300 a month since they have a monopoly on it in the US.

            • Whenever someone has a bogus cure they always complain that the medical establishment doesn’t like it. CS is worthless.

          • Remember radium suppositories in the 1930s? That’s the first thing I think of when someone brings up CS

            • The beauty of CS is that you can make yourself and if you don’t want to don’t have to.It is not forced upon you and you don’t have to pay for it like some and perhaps more pharm industry products are.

              • It may not be forced on me but it does get pretty annoying seeing it promoted constantly in the comments sections of certain websites as a solution to everything from Ebola to cancer.

            • What’s worse than a hemorrhoid?

              A radioactive hemorrhoid.

              • SHES GONNA BLOOOOWWWWW!!!

              • I have a hemmoroid muscle pinching an optic nerve. Gives me a shitty outlook on things.

                • Explains your name…

        • ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
          Enough of this Eboli crap. Sheesh!! You are most likely to be hit by lightening. Somebody must be hyping this crap to sell masks n rubber gloves. Lets talk about something else like economic collapse or riots or feral dog packs.. Or prepping. Anything but Eboli.

          • good call.

          • But I have been side hit 3 times, does that count??? kidding, I guess…

          • Apparently it’s this year’s swine flu. Gotta drive those ratings!

            Gotta remember the newsman’s creed: “If it bleeds, it leads. If nothing is bleeding, shank something and report on that”.

            • LOL! But oh, so true.

          • Oh my God we’re all gonna die. In the middle of a plague lets all run out in mass into the city square to insure good exposure to all the sick people, with pitchforks and torches and cry out for Obama to save us.

            Isn’t that how Hollywood taught us to react?

          • Yup and the economic collapse guys are drumming up business for gold and silver merchants, the civil unrest guys are just hyping firearms and ammo, the NWO/DHS/FEMA scaremongers are just stirring up the survival real estate industry. It’s all a sham, why bother prepping at all? (Sarcasm.)
            I prep across the board. I may put more emphasis on more probable outcomes (tornados are common in my region for example) but I keep all the bases covered including knowledge, gear, and SOPs for a pandemic. You want to talk prepping? Health care is an integral topic.

            • Really 10 Articles on Eboli and it hasn’t even hit our borders. That was last week’s Bucket of Fear. I was in the health care industry, and you are more likely to die of Hepatitis, or a car accident, shot or stabbed. How about a bucket of fear on car accidents and why you should wear your seat belts. (sar) zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. How about those damn asteroids that will slam into your house when you are not looking? Alien space ship come to kidnap you.

              Best advice to prep for Eboli, avoid crowds or crowded public places, stop shaking strangers hands, avoid commercial flying, stock up on silver colloid and treat and cover open cuts, frequently wash your hands, and avoid going into hospitals which are the breading ground of infectious diseases. If you work in a hospital leave your uniform scrubs at the hospital, shower and change at the hospital before you come home. Don’t wear those scrubs home anymore,unless you like a sick family. There, that’s how you prep for Eboli. I promise you will never get it. If you want to buy a mask and some gloves if you have to go into public during a massive outbreak in your city then do so. Eboli is soooo zzzzzzzzzzzzzz OK next subject please..

        • HAHAHAHAHA

        • Awww geez..we’re doomed…don’t shoot till you see the blood in their eyes…might have to get binoculars.

          Live Free or Die
          Talon1776

        • If you work in the medical industry in any capacity, keep your eyes and ears open. You could easily find your services “requisioned”. You will have no say as to whether you go along to “help where needed”.

          • ps: If you’re a nurse on the run, ditch your cell phone on the way home. You probably won’t be able to stay home yourself, either.

        • Don’t you nut cases get tired of all “the sky is falling nonsense?” How many years are you going to wait for the world to end?!
          Look what happened to chicken little.
          Get outside….get out of the basement and get some sun!

          • Ok so why are here reading this site..?

        • R2L,

          I certainly hope you do NOT take colloidal silver.

          Fortunately, just because you proclaim yourself “ready to lead”, I doubt you have any followers.

          My family will certainly be taking colloidal silver in adequate dosage to remain safe on the FIRST reported case within 100 miles of our small town. We will be fine and have ZERO fear.

          If you want to bet you life on “modern medicine”, that is certainly your choice. But there are many on this site and millions of other free minded people who will take colloidal silver and survive. And they will do it because they KNOW it works for them in many other ways as well.

          You may think you can lead, but nobody will follow you to the FEMA camp you may be sent to when you get sick due to a closed and non-thinking mind. And odds are, those who have taken the proper amount of colloidal silver will be waving goodbye as you are loaded on the train/bus, and most will likely be saying good riddance to a wannabe leader who CHOSE not to protect himself.

          Having said that, it is important for those who want the protection to know that colloidal silver will not help you if you don’t take enough of it. You MUST learn to make your own so it is available in sufficient quantity.

          • GodsCreation:

            Wonder where RTL came up with his name. Pied piper wannabee, perhaps. He is leading alright. But where to? Your post to him took the words right out of my mouth. Thanks…..

          • agreed, the american DTRA in 09 squashed the ebola virus SPECIFICLLY WITH 10PPM NANO, NOT COLLOIDAL, AND NOT OTHER PPM NANO.

        • The Ebola Virus can possibly be cured by using Colloidal Silver which uses magnetism from silver ions to alter the DNA in the Ebola Virus. You may have to give high doses of Colloidal Silver to the patient infected with Ebola Virus. Laboratories can be built in homes to make Colloidal Silver for the Africans.

        • anyone looking into ebola should look into Dr. RIma laibow, she has one infected african country “about to” accept clinical trials of “10ppm Nano silver” she sites a succesful 2009 american DTRA (Defence Threat Reduction Agency & USSTRATCOM center for combating WMD & standing joint force headquarters-elimination) test against ebola and SARS and malaria and a any other virus or bacteria in the trial that for some reason the US gov is choosing not to mention.
          NOT COLLOIDAL SILVER!!!!! and NOT JUST ANY NANO SILVER EITHER.
          25PPM AND 50PPM NANO WERE ALSO USED IN THE TEST WITH NO SUCCESS.
          10ppm worked against ebola.
          An interview with her about ebola http://www.gnosticmedia.com/Joe-Rima-preventing-treating-ebola
          Her site http://drrimaknows.com/

      2. Of course a false flag like this could be is a good way to force preppers to use up stock without the ability to trade due to the threat???

        Just thinking out loud.

        • Yeah, you don’t want to trade or barter for some recently dead man’s wool blanket. That how the Europeans killed off the Native American Indians with smallpox. You don’t want to wear anybody’s used clothes, or hats for head lice.

          • Another false “fact” that needs to be corrected. Never happened.

          • Indians. I am a Native American. You’re getting caught in the PC trap.

      3. People are going to freak the f!ck out if cases start showing up around the U.S.

        Heck, I’ll probably freak the f!ck out too.

      4. WhoWuddaThunkIt:

        Why should I keep my magazines with one round short of capacity? To save the springs?

        • All of them, kidding of course ::-D

        • duh…come on young eisen…that’s a dumb question…

          and they thought your programing was tweaked…hah…

        • Acid, Good Question, Yeah, there has been some youtube video debates on this magazine subject. The wear and tear on your magazine springs is the back and forth loading and unloading of the magazines. It does not wear out the magazine to keep them loaded all the time. Yes one less round like 29 in a 30 round mag just keeps more tension on the rest of the load than fully compressed. People have shot magazines that have been loaded and left for 5 years and they work just fine. That is what I got out of the debate. In an emergency an empty magazine is worthless to you. And you sure don’t want to have to load your magazines while you are taking fire. Your main battle rifle you should have at least 12 to 16 mags ready to go at any time. Later on as you live, to pass this info on to other of why you keep your magazines loaded. Imagine a gang of a dozen hoodies surrounds your house tonight wanting your preps. There you go… Let er Rip!!!

        • AE, why would anyone on this site worry about loading their mags one round short. They surely won’t compress the spring before all the shooting starts in October or was it November or maybe December, heck I can’t remember, it may have been April of 2015. Any Who we’re all going to be dead from Ebola before the springs compress. Boy! If the word of the week was Ebola the NSA would be going crazy. Trekker Out. My Motto,Never Panic!

      5. Actually, you should’ve had this stuff in your supplies already. WTF you waiting for?

        • I’m waiting for the end; then I will hurry and run down and get them….

          • YEP , Im gonna have my supplies delivered with my pizza .

      6. Just saw this video linked from another website. The Govt presentation, reading from a press statement says….”Ebola attack” watch it and see what you think.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqijpvoyfwY

        • Got to admit it’s at least interesting. Especially when she uses the word “outbreak” later, emphasizing the word, after a short pause…like an ad lib correction?

        • KulaFarmer is going to get hit today by 2 hurricanes in the Hawaiian Islands. Looks like the north shores will be pounded hard. I am sure he has been getting ready for the last few days. Several days ago he said they ran out of bottles water, and how does an island get resupplied for a week or so during a hurricane. Glad he lives away from the shore. Hope he does well. Best wishes my friend!!! Stay safe and hunkered down. Tell us the details when you come back. Living in FL it is a stressful week and they have 2 Hurricanes one after another and it has been 22 years since Hawaii has a direct impact from a Hurricane. Lots of boats sitting in marinas out there. Stay Safe!!

          • Follow up. Maui Web Cams Live, North shore etc – http://www.mauiwindcam.com/
            Looks like the calm before the storm. Looks overcast.

            • Here is another web cam site for Maui – http://livesurfcamhawaii.com/maui/maui.htm
              Its nighttime and dark out there now, but vids most likely from yesterday’s action. North Shore is where the surfing and windsurfing is going on. That’s the beach areas that will get pounded by the 2 hurricanes the most. Huge 3-ft round sea turtles out there everywhere.

              • There’s even a Kula Cam…!

                ht tp://livesurfcamhawaii.com/maui/kula.htm

          • Good luck and Godspeed Kula, I know you are as ready as you can be. Prayers that you and yours will be spared the worst of it. We’ll see ya when it is over.

        • What’s worse: WW3 or Ebola? The following is from zero hedge:

          “Perhaps most worrying…

          A defense official disagreed with the spokeswoman on the increased bomber forays. Russian strategic nuclear forces appear to be “trying to test our air defense reactions, or our command and control systems,” said an official familiar with reports of the incursions.

          “These are not just training missions,” the official added.

        • The video is quite relevant. Previous “outbreaks” have occurred in “remote villages/locations” as the nexus point.

          However, in this “attack”, major population areas were the “point of origin”. YES, THEY ARE F-ING WITH US!

          • No worries, just bath in , drink, snort, and eat any and every form of SILVER. That Vitamin C serum rating of ZERO, PAY THAT NO MIND. “PROPAGANDA”! ;)!

      7. I do not believe THIS is the way the World Ends…..ebola is just not efficient enough at this stage to be the end all ‘plague’, even with the failings of mankind to thwart it….NO ONE within any gov’t would risk that which they cannot control …..Think about it….we have multiple gov’ts warring against each other (and, in some cases, against themselves) we have ebola and other diseases which threaten mankind, we have natural disasters occurring almost daily around the World..WE have many who believe that they are ENTITLED to assistance merely because they EXIST and have traversed far to illegally enter OUR Republic….SH indeed hit the fan….but WE have yet to gather ALL the threads together……everything is chaotic and disjointed….and all by a “master design”…..
        FOB

        • I agree!!

          • Ditto FOB. Its the Psychopaths that have the football and nuke button as their whim.

            • WWTI, should we keep all of our Silo’s one Nuke Short?

        • Good points. But what we have here is maybe a secret lab with sloppy practices and they accidentally let a bad bug lose.

        • Pestilence in divers(diverse) places. I’ve read about that in some book………Can’t quite remember what book that was.

          Yeah, everybody screaming about this Ebola. Misinformation, disinformation, all allowing it to enter your brains and haunt every corner of your imagination. Don’t let it consume and paralyze you. There’s still a lot that needs doing!

      8. This too will blow over. But if it doesn’t, make sure you have those items listed above and extra food stuffs. You’ll be fine. Nothing to see here folks……..

      9. step 1: Turn off the television

        step 2: Turn off the television

        step 3: turn off the television

        step 4: look up ‘Ebola’ in wikipedia

        • Look up CS in wikipedia while you’re at it…

          “Colloidal silver (a colloid consisting of silver particles suspended in liquid) and formulations containing silver salts were used by physicians in the early 20th century, but their use was largely discontinued in the 1940s following the development of safer and effective modern antibiotics.[9][10] Since the 1990s, colloidal silver has again been marketed as an alternative medicine, often with extensive “cure-all” claims. Colloidal silver products remain available in many countries as dietary supplements and homeopathic remedies, although they are not effective in treating any known condition and carry the risk of both permanent cosmetic side effects such as argyria and more serious ones such as allergic reactions, and interactions with prescription medications.”

          • rede2lead. This last few days I applied the silver Colloid on a cut on my foot, and it is healing up nicely. Make sure you all get your Tetanus shot. Info Below:

            PREVENTATIVE HEALTH – Get your Tetanus Shot – Hear that old adage; “Stepping on a Rusty Nail can Kill You.” Yes its true, Tetanus bacteria is a very deadly bacteria and it located everywhere even in the soil. Rusty nails are the perfect habitat for Tetani bacteria to grow. In third world countries, thousands die every year from the Tetanus bacteria. Get a small cut or puncture wound and if not properly cleaned and gets infected, you can die within weeks. Tetanus is a horrible way to die. The Incubation period is about 8 days, then Tetanus sets in, which is also referred to as “LockJaw,” the contraction of muscle tissue which can tear muscles and cause bone fractures. Other signs are or symptoms are fever, drooling, sweating, muscle spasms, trouble swallowing, rapid heart beat. In SHTF/ Grid Down there will be many more hazards everywhere, including stepping on a rusty nail, metal shards in the dirt, causing scrapes and wounds. The CDC Center for Disease Control recommends adults receive a Tetanus Booster shot vaccine every 10 years. As we get closer to real SHTF or Grid Down, there may not be any medical services available. If there is any “ONE MAIN SHOT” to get, this is the one. So take your whole family to a clinic, to get this Required Booster Shot ASAP. More details at:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetanus

          • LMAO…depending on wikipedia is like believing everything out iof Alex Jones’s mouth. Ask yourself…who is in charge of wikipedia and who can edit the information?

            You probably go to Snopes too for verification.

      10. On the radio today, the former head of the American Association of Physicians and Surgeons stated that out of the 900+ deaths so far, 100 of them were Medical Staff who were taking precautions not to get the virus.

        Bottom line, even the Doc’s in isolation garb are dying from it!

        • But, but, but its not airborne. (sarc)

        • I dont understand that???

          I pray I don’t get stuck in illinois with work if this lets loose and my family back in iowa. I dont think you;; be able to cross state lines

          • I agree….praying Psalms 91 over us all.

            • Thanks.

          • Have you read the last few entrees at Jon Rappoport’s blog, BJ?

            Guys like Sinner and Navy Vet should too, …but they won’t. It’s too Fun to Fear and spread Fear? Idk.

            • Talk about your hero worship. Rappoport doesn’t take into consideration brand-new zoonotic illnesses — so I discount him entirely, especially since he “sells CDs”

              • “brand-new zoonotic illnesses” where’d you pull that term from?

                Yeesh, it’s not any kind of hero worship, it’s judging the facts with a dash of common sense observation. It’s almost like that doesn’t matter to a lot people here?

                You crack me up, “so I discount him entirely, especially since he “sells CDs””

                Ok then, run for the hills, be afraid. Just never you mind that works out in the empire’s favor. Run! Fear! Fear! Psft.

            • That’s what Organized Religion does, Spread Fear to the Gullible, that you will Burn in Hell, but they just so happen to have this Bible Cure All Book for $19.99, and if you give 10% of your weekly income to the church, We will put in a good word for you to God who keeps a list like Santa Clause who’s naughty or nice and will receive everlasting life in heaven with 70 virgins. The Church of course talks to God to on a daily basis, so its all based on Nepotism. So go home and prey hard now. Remember if you don’t believe, you will be swept up by the Wrath of God and sent to Hell’s FEMA Camp making Devil pitch forks for the rest of eternity. Yep Tithing is just like a Tax, and GOD just now happens to accept Master Card and Visa, Discover and AMEX, so there is no excuse not to give to be saved.

              • Who,assume you are reading and living by The Yankee anti-zombie surviv……,forget it.

              • Sadly there are those dishonest people who self-identofy with legitimate religions to prey upon the gullible, (who are usually not in any organized church, BTW.) Just as some sleazeballs have identified themselves with the Tea Party movement to fleece the unwary. This doesn’t reflect on the validity of Christianity, or the Tea Party, but of course other dishonest souls will say it does to make money for themselves. Or to sooth their own internal demons.

      11. Wow, what to believe????

        • Anyone here ever get a 404 message that wipes out your post immediately and completely when you hit the subjit button? Mac?

          Here is the website I was posting about. Televangelists and their ill gotten and spent gains…..

          H ttp:www.inplainsight.org/html/tele-evangelists_lifestyles

          It is no wonder people cannot take the Bible, Jesus Christ, and Christianity serious when these charlatans are front and center in our face, scamming and lying to people, day after day, year after year.

          Check out the website to see if your favorite teacher/preacher is listed and their lifestyle uncovered. The phonies are living large on your donations.

          • 404. sometimes

          • I don’t believe in Jesus because the need for a savior doesn’t make sense, not because of Christian charlatans asking for money.

      12. I’ve looked at every single credible resource and media outlet over the last several days and cannot find ONE SINGLE CASE of anyone in the United States testing positive for Ebola symptoms. Short of the two medical missionaries returned here to the CDC in Atlanta, we have NO ONE at present in the entire USA that has tested positive for the Ebola Virus, nor are there any confirmed cases of Ebola here.
        Too much time is being expended in worrying about intentional panic being spread by the Alex Jones disciples and others who profit from spreading unsubstantiated hype and rumor. Come on people, concentrate on REAL issues, not rhetorical excrement.

        • what you say appears to be true about EBOLA

          however the government/CDC is already being
          somewhat duplicitous

          CDC Refuses to Identify Where Previous Ebola Tests Originated

          http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2…sts-Originated

          do YOU
          trust them ???

          I don’t wanna get all tin foil hat
          BUT
          we do KNOW
          that
          governments LIE

          • You can trust the government. Ask any Indian.

          • Of course governments lie, however, there STILL has not been one proven case of positive test for even the symptoms of Ebola here on US soil or in North America(US and Canada).
            if there was, you can bet, it would be widely reported.
            The two medical missionaries are being treated at Emory-Riddle University Hospital in Atlanta, with the CDC in attendance.
            We shall see IF, the claimed pandemic outbreak here in the Estados Unidos actually occurs. This is much ado about nothing, be thankful we have the Atlantic Ocean.
            It is appropriate to be prepared for epidemics of all diseases WHERE POSSIBLE. Other than that, no need to fear, that is simply foolish and plays into the governmental propaganda machine.The Obamafurher laughs every time he sees this stuff in print or reported.

        • Define credible. Just because it isn’t being reported doesn’t mean it is not happening and being suppressed in order to keep the public from panicking. The information will be suppressed until it can’t be. No sane person on here is advocating a panic. What is being advocated is stocking up on supplies while you can in case it happens. It’s no different that prepping for hurricane season when the weather is good and no storm is on the horizon. If it becomes known that it is indeed spreading in the Western world, what chance do you think you will have to buy essential supplies at that time? It will be too late. Buy minimal essentials now. $50 goes a long way with things like bleach, plastic sheeting, duct tape, etc. If you have a family then you may want to go further and stock up on protective clothing and a respirator or NBC rated gas mask. Food and water go without saying. Hopefully it’s just a waste of money in the end but if it’s not you will be very happy to have these things.

          • RE: “What is being advocated is stocking up on supplies while you can in case it happens.”

            You’re a victim of propaganda in that case.

            There’s nothing wrong with prepping for likely calamity, there’s everything wrong with falling for propaganda.

            You know, I heard Sharknado is coming next week. Are you ready for that?

            • Whose propaganda? Since you are towing the government line, is it not entirely possible that it is you who is the victim of propaganda? Is it not also possible that you are a propagator of propaganda?

              • Uh, Winston, you might want to check out what Jon Rappoport has written before you hit the keyboard again.

                One thing is for sure, I ain’t toeing any gooberment line. Pa-too-ah!

                • I have no idea who Jon Rappoport is nor why I should then trust him with my life. I have read both sides of the argument but will prep anyways. The words of one blogger that you seem to have a near religious affection for is not enough to make me do nothing.

                • I’ll also mention one more thing: The CDC said it was inevitable that Ebola will make it’s way to the US. Now, they tried to downplay it by saying it wouldn’t be a large outbreak but I really don’t want to take that chance. I’ll act as if it were going to be a big deal and then be relieved when it isn’t.

      13. Do any of the big pharma companies have a medicine in development and waiting for fda approval? That approval could sped up and the stock could really skyrocket.
        I hate to profit from other people’s bad luck, but that’s the way the market goes.
        Other stocks may benefit too. Funeral homes?

      14. I swear.. every friggin time I’m going out of town.. every friggin time….

        • oUCH I know what you mean. I think I’ll cancel my missionary trip to Liberia. I may just stay here and witness to a few on this site. Jesus Loves you WWTI and even you Acid Etch. Trekker Out.

          • With some “tough love” I hope.

      15. I have a megaphone and marine air horn to get peoples attention if I need to.

        I also fashioned a metal funnel to fit the end of my rifle to amplify the report. People might think its a bigger gun than it is.

        • thought you said you didn’t have a long barrel…

          make up your mind boy…

          • I have hunting gear but not a semi.

            • You are definitely an asshat.

              • Yeah, but he’s a funny asshat 🙂

            • He probably can’t drive a semi anyway.

          • Another remarkable and yet functional idea from……Eisen-stein. (sarc off).

        • “I also fashioned a metal funnel to fit the end of my rifle to amplify the report. People might think its a bigger gun than it is.”

          I remember an early ’80’s comedy show about a cop called Sledge Hammer, it was a riot. He was attaching something to the barrel of his huge revolver and another cop asked him if it was a silencer, and he said, “No, it’s a loudener!”

        • You just gave me a vision of Elmer Fudd hunting that wascally wabbit. Thanks for the laugh I am rolling here in tears and choking on lunch….you’re something else!

      16. a good fictional account of a pandemic is
        The Jakarta Pandemic by Konkoly
        and then there is always the movie Contagion
        to give you a little taste of things to come

        repost
        CDC Activates Highest Response Level at Emergency Operations Center

        http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/08/06/CDC-Issues-Level-1-Alert-Highest-Possible-on-Ebola-Virus

        Dr. Tom Frieden, the director of the United States Center for Disease Control, announced this afternoon that the agency has elevated its response to the Ebola virus to Level 1– the highest possible response level. “

        and then there is this

        NYT: WHO weighing emergency decree on Ebola
        http://crofsblogs.typepad.com/h5n1/2014/08/nyt-who-weighing-emergency-decree-on-ebola.html

        these guys are WORRIED
        they fully expected this outbreak to quickly burn itself out
        like all the others,
        that is NOT happening

        don’t forget to keep extra cash on hand
        and don’t forget your pets !
        extra food,meds,flea control,cat litter etc

        • The last time I checked, films were made for entertainment, and speculation, they do not reflect reality and “Contagion” certainly does not, never did. Your points aside from that are well taken.

      17. and don’t forget

        When Trucks Stop,America STOPS

        http://www.trucking.org/ATA%20Docs/What%20We%20Do/Image%20and%20Outreach%20Programs/When%20Trucks%20Stop%20America%20Stops.pdf

        and it will if there is a widespread outbreak of any widely communicable disease

        100 Items to Disappear First

        http://www.thepowerhour.com/news/items_disappearfirst.htm

        take a good long look at that picture of those empty shelves
        that accompany this story

        like someone a hell of a lot smarter than me said
        “you don’t want to be one of the last people fighting over
        the last can of peas at Walmart”

        • I won’t fight for peas, but I will fight for the last can of Oly….get away dude!

        • The last time I checked, films were made for entertainment, and speculation, they do not reflect reality and “Contagion” certainly does not, never did. Your points aside from that are well taken.

        • Satori:
          Excellent reminder of where and what the real threat is at present! Well done. I have far more concern and even fear, over how easily the JIT distribution chain in this country can be compromised and stopped completely, than I do over Ebola.
          Ebola would be NOTHING, compared to the stoppage of our national distribution and supply chains.\However, the Sheeple love to baaah and bleat over hypothetical conspiracy and non-existent threats.

      18. DISTANCE…

        I think it’s getting close to the time to test my desalination plant… way off shore…

        Seriously though, I remember being mocked, in the not too distant past, for buying that HUGE roll of 8mm plastic and two cases of gorilla tape…

        Who’s laughing now…those very same people, two so far, have asked if I still have…I said no, because I felt foolish for having bought them in the first place… and used it all up for various projects… 🙂

      19. what to believe, that IS what do you believe as reality??/??

      20. F.u.c.k. Me royality…. Think about it…. Who knows…

      21. I woke up,
        Got out of bed,
        and dragged a comb across my head….

        I read the news today oh boy….

        Sir Lennon….

      22. I am a flea bitten monkey,
        And all my friends are junkies,
        But that’s not really true….

        Jagger/Richards. (Monkey Man)….

      23. If a man stands on his toilet, does that mean he is high on pot?

        • If a man stands on his beliefs he may be the lastmanstanding.

          brother…”don’t go down without one helluva fight”

          Any responsible adult that would unleash this shit on another on purpose to achieve a goal will get exactly what they deserve.

          There will be those who see to it.

          • Lastman.

            Aloha from Idaho and fellow neighbor. Lots of rain lately here. My Jerusalem Artichokes look very, very good. Potatoes in garden are well too. Been eating reds and yellows for weeks now. The volunteer heirloom lettuce was unbelievable this year. Ate many salads and now lettuce has now bolted for next years crop. Tomatoes were terrible.

            Yes. If anybody does harm to someone with known evil intentions, they will get to meet the Maker on judgement day. Evil is ruling, just as prophecy has forewarned us….good luck everyone.

            • Hey Ugly,
              On the tomatoes; I bought some heirloom plants and they have done pretty good. Got some hybrids that claimed to have good blight defense and grow big….bull crap!

              Those hybrids got the blight and haven’t produced squat.

              The heirlooms I planted from seed, are blight free and beautiful and just starting to bear.

              I’ve been getting two lb. softball size, sort of pinkish red, juicy tomatos for three weeks.

              It’s costing me a fortune though. I eat a BLT every other day, and can’t get enough. Bacon has gotten expensive. Hell, lettuce @ a buck fifty a head ain’t cheap anymore. Hellman’s mayo, gotta have it.

              Shit, I think I’ll go fix one now. Ummmm,Ummm…good with cold glass of milk or black coffee.

              • My wife, is a hardcore heirloom seed ONLY gardner, crops are looking excellent, huge yields, no insect or blight/disease issues to date. Go heirloom only, it works and is self-sustaining as well!

            • Making solar pickles by the 1/2 gal jar…lettuce bolting as well. I have been getting tomatoes, peppers, summer squashes, eggplant for a month or more and lots of all types to go. lemon cukes everyday and we have to make sauerkraut this weekend.

              Beets, carrots, kale as well…the lord has been good to us again. I work hard to have a good garden. I think. I plan. I plan some more. I collect water. I take every op I can to glean good organic matter when I can.

              I’ll I can do is make a good effort…the rest is not in my hands.

              Perhaps someday we can have an OLY together…lms

              • Lastman, are solar pickles the same as sun pickles. I can’t remember what I used but I think I put some dill and some garlic and a hot pepper with the cucummbers and let them sit in the sun. Been a long time since I made any. Way before Eisenkraut was born I imagine, but I sure did love’em. The pickles not Eisenkraut. Trekker Out. Freemen Own Guns, Slaves Don’t!

                • Same thing…no energy in canning involved. A week in the sun and into the frig or a cool area for 2-3 weeks.

                  If keep cool, cold, they will last from one year to the next…my first batch just when into a cooler environment this eve…can’t wait til Sept 1.

                  Brother, I own firearms and I will never be a slave.

      24. What if collodial silver was what actually triggered the zombie apocalypse?

        • I am not always a fan of Ann Coulter, as I see here as another one in the LSM and part of the right/left problem.

          BUT……….

          I think she is spot on in regards to this article that she wrote regarding Dr. Brantly and going to Africa on a mission with Ebola outbreak. It kind of right along the same exact points I made on this site last week in regards to Dr. Brantly being irresponsible as a husband and father.

          http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2014-08-06.html

      25. Hi. This is BJ’s wife. I am curious about taking precautions with/for kiddos. As we have two seven year olds, one almost five, a nineteen month old and newborn coming a week from tomorrow. Any suggestions PPE for the little ones? Masks, etc. I already plan on hunkering down and becoming a hermit as much as possible. What kind if time frame should I plan on supply wise? One month, two months, etc.

        Thanks very much for your suggestions.

        Prayers and Safety to All.

        • My best guess would be 3 months at a minimum. However, I would suggest learning how to generate your own supplies for certain things like water as it takes up a lot of room. I plan to use my pool as a water source and purify it using chlorine, UV light and a filter, but this may not be a solution that is viable for you. Consider rain water barrels for resupply, and putting the water in clear bottles in the sun for at least 4 hours to kill bacteria and viruses. It’s fairly inexpensive and lets you produce water unless you live in an area with little rain fall. Just be sure to filter out any particulates from the water before you put it in the containers. Even a clean tee shirt that is doubled or tripled up in a funnel would do a good job at this.

          You also want to consider having a efficient means to cook food off the grid, like a small camping stove or even a solar oven. For food, rice is inexpensive as is ramen but you would also want to augment it with beans and canned vegetables as well as some meat on occasion too. For that, you can get canned chicken and tuna, but beware the tuna. Avoid species that are native to the pacific, like Albacore, as it may contain fallout from Fukushima. In a pinch you could eat some and be fine as the risk is small if you limit your intake. I just wouldn’t want to eat too much of it.

          I would also suggest that you get enough plastic sheeting and duct tape to do all of your windows twice, at minimum. You only need one layer, but the second layer should be kept in reserve in case something happens to the first. Likewise, if you are spending that much time indoors, consider having some plants to recycle the air. If you can use plants that also produce food then that’s even better as it adds another layer of resilience to your preps. I would consider a dwarf or container variant of tomatoes as a good choice here, and maybe a bush variety of green beans as well. I know people in the prepping community don’t like GMOs but if a GM variety is all you can find that fits your size requirements then I would go ahead and use it. This is an emergency situation and so you have to do what works in the now sometimes rather than what is ideal.

          Lastly, consider some means to defend yourself. If things got as bad as they would need to be to quarantine your family in the house, it is not unlikely that the world will become a dangerous place. Law enforcement may become overwhelmed in which case the possibility that you may need to take care of a violent situation yourself will increase dramatically.

          • RE: “I would also suggest that you get enough plastic sheeting and duct tape to do all of your windows twice, at minimum.”

            Dang. It’s The Worry from the fallout of a chemical war with Iraq during Gulf War I all over again.
            In the background somebody is wrapping their house in duct tape.

            However; I did like some of the things you wrote. …Just not that part.

            • Wrapping your house in too much plastic can cause mold. Houses need to breathe.

              • GOOD LORD!! SOMEBODY NEEDS TO HELP HER OUT WITH BIRTH CONTROL!!

                • Why….We are no where near the 12 children I want ??

                  • BJ, I and my EX had 6 and I Thank God often. They may be a pain while raising them but Children are definitely a blessing. And so are Grandchildren. One of the problems of today is that White folk think they should only have 1 or 2 at the most, so if this old world is around much longer,the white race will die out. Not racist, just fact! Also my ex is not my ex through any fault of her’s. Trekker Out.

                • Pregnant, nursing women …..newborns, babies, toddlers ……
                  The weakest will die off First ……..
                  YOU EITHER KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS, OR YOU DON’T!!!!

                  • Back off jerk. Some people love being parents and raising families. Just because you don’t approve doesnt give you free license to be an a$$hole. And just come on, I want another dedicated redthumber. I like sucking all that energy from y’all.

          • Shellie,also consider if you do not have a basic medical kit(probably need just as you have young boys)with gauze/bandages/butterfly stitches/antibiotic cream/all the basics,this is stuff you will probably use no matter what.I say on the food end buy and store as much as reasonable given space,buy things you already enjoy or are at least willing to eat and rotate stock and resupply.I am lucky in that a lot of my stuff is stuff I use anyhow/camping/hunting/fishing gear/tools ect.I would also go to a yard sale/free on craigs list and get a bunch of board games for the kids,stuck inside for awhile will help them enjoy a trying time,books also a great thing on that level.

          • Consider a nebulizer for getting medicine like Colloidal Silver into a baby’s lungs. When my son was 6 months old or so he got sick and a doctor plugged in a steam nebulizer. Our baby took the mouthpiece and just chewed on it like babies do. I was worried he wasn’t getting the steam into his lungs, but the doctor said that was fine. He was still breathing it into his lungs. There are also nebulizer masks for kids of different ages if you can manage to keep one on them.

            You also can give a baby (or any child) a colloidal silver enema. They say the medicine will be absorbed through the intestinal wall and sent into the bloodstream. To do this use the blue bulb the hospital gives you for cleaning mucous out of a baby’s nose and throat. These same blue bulbs are also found in ear wax removal kits found at any place with a pharmacy.

            No one has mentioned Carnivora drops, which can easily be put into a child’s drink, though the drops are expensive and are more preventative, I think.

            Try aquaticpharmacy.com for fish antibiotics. They’re the same kind we take even though they say they are for fish. Kids may have a tough time with pills, though. Look online first for appropriate dosages based on weight.

        • I have gaggle of littles and another on the way as well. Besides what’s listed I’ve stocked up on baby wipes, diapers(I prefer cloth),medicine (acetaminophen, herbal cough syrups, homeopathy), juice (helps with boring meals), baby wash, paper plates and throw away utensils. I would try to have three months of food/water as a starting point.

          When I go shopping I almost always buy two. When one is gone I buy another two. I’m able to stager rotation dates and my preps have been spread out over a couple years. If you don’t have 90 days stored, you might have a bigger bill this month.

          I don’t have masks but I will get some this week though I am not certain on child sizing, maybe someone else will chime in.

        • If you have made plans to homebirth, that would be another option to protect you and the little one….

          • Prior C-sections……no mid wife will touch you.

        • I think your fear is way overblown, Shellie James.

          However; if that doesn’t console you – and reading the links I suggested above doesn’t do it -…. IF we were hit with “an Andromeda Strain”, seems to me, rather than a mask, a bubble might be a better option.

          Cellars are common in the Midwest. They might even be a natural bubble?

          … WHoa. That might be fast-tracking it to becoming a Morlock?
          …Myself, I think I’ll be taking my chances above ground.

        • Shellie I emailed BJ some links to websites and articles that you will find helpful. Prayers that he make it home with no problems!

          • Thank you

          • Yeah, before going to bed last night I looked at Macs site and seen this latest article and started getting a little concerned. So I emailed her the link and called her. I asked her to give it a look and ask questions, specifically in regards to masks and if people think it is time to start vwearing masks in public or stop going out and hunker down…especially with little ones. There is nothing we can do about the birth and being in the hospital next week 🙁

            Well, as usual she went over board…..uggghhh. We already have food supplies and make colloidal silver and have a bunch of other preps. That’s why I specifically wanted her to get involved in the conversation and keep itlimited to kids, masks, public and so forth.

            I think we need to get a case of gorilla tape, a case of 4 mil sheeting, more water, add a little to our food, get more cash on hand, more ammo and masks, these are all good things to have on hand anyway…better to have and need not, then to need and have not. My biggest thing with masks is what kind will fit prooperly on kids? I have a full face respirator from my oil spill clean up days. But wife and kids do not.

            • I think you can get surplus masks for children that were made by the IDF for civilians. Make sure whatever you get that it takes the common 40mm NATO cartridge fitting as that makes it much easier to get more filters. When getting filters though, be sure they aren’t out of date. Some surplus filters are surplus because they are too old to be of much use. I would also beware of older Soviet block filters as some of them have asbestos as part of the filter media and you definitely don’t want to be breathing that! I am by no means an expert on this subject though. I just ordered my first gas mask (an Israeli civilian model with NBC filter) and figured I would share my research. I will also preface this with the fact that I am a food service worker and as such do not have a lot of income, so my choices tend to be centered on the low end of the price scale and trying to find something that works in a pinch. If you can afford more then you likely can do better than me.

              Oh, and one more thing for everybody: Toilet paper! Buy some now. If nothing happens with this then you can always use it in the future. We all gotta poop!

        • Shellie-

          I have little ones as well. If this breaks out I plan on hunkering down. My husband is on travel a lot so it might just be me and the littles. I am assuming 3 months of supplies should be adequate for this to burn itself out, but my goal is to be prepared to stay isolated for 6 months. I have walky talkies (quality long range) that I plan on giving to certain people locally to keep up the communication. Might want to do that if there are people local you care about. I wouldn’t count on cell towers.

          PPE for little ones is tough, because littles aren’t gonna want to wear a mask or gloves. I have n95 masks for everyone in the house as well as goggles, nitrile gloves as well as some other physical coverings. I can, on short notice, assemble a BL2 level suit, possibly BL3, but wouldn’t put a lot of faith in it. These are ONLY to be used if we bug out or in event of absolute emergency. You could practice with the kids trying masks on. Make it a game. 🙂

          Keep a few bottles of bleach on hand. Bleach is effective at killing most pathogens, including ebola. If you have to go out at all, burn all clothes you wore and rinse in very mild bleach solution, you don’t want to cause a chemical burn on your skin. Sanitize everything with bleach. I would set up an isolation room in your house as well, because whoever does step out needs to be isolated for a minimum of 21 days.

          One thing people won’t realize is the importance of sunlight. if you are too afraid to leave the house, have a room that the kids can go into that gets ample sunlight. Turn it into a play room, park of sorts. Sunlight is necessary for production of vitamin D, unless you have supplements. Sunlight is also something that I believe gives everyone hope. 🙂

          I have lots of colors, paper, crafts, books, etc for the kids as well. I have curriculum in the event they can’t go to school. No, I don’t home school my kids but I am an educator and would feel comfortable picking up where they left off at school. Keeping a state of normalcy for kids, imo, is critical. Which means having pictures of loved ones, comforts they are used to, etc.

          • You probably already know this, but I will post it for the benefit of all. The protective clothing is only needed when dealing with someone who is infected. This is why you would want to have the supplies to set up a isolated treatment room if it becomes necessary. If you manage to isolate yourselves successfully and no one comes down with it, keep the masks in the packaging in order to keep them from contamination. Remember: protective gear has a fairly short life while in use so it is best to conserve these resources.

            Also, if you do set up a treatment room, don’t forget to block off any forced air heating and air conditioning vents in that room! Failure to do so will let the recirculation system of the A/C or heater pull air out of the isolation room and spread it throughout the house! If you need to air condition that room then a self-contained window unit would probably be the best option. Just be sure to spray it with bleach before handling it once the infection has been dealt with. I think a garden pump sprayer with a bleach solution would be good to have for just such decontamination tasks.

      26. you can trust governments to deliberately limit info
        on anything that ,in their opinion, might cause a panic

        interesting little study

        To Prevent ‘Panic’ In An Underground Emergency: Why Not Tell People The Truth?

        http://www.iafss.org/publications/fss/3/843/view (PDF document)

      27. Does anyone have any suggestions on good PPE for children? Infant, toddler and 5 & 7 year olds? Also, what kind of timeframe should a person plan for? A month, two months or longer.

        Thanks for your suggestions.

      28. CDC Remains Silent on Potential Ebola Victims In U.S.

        http://www.prisonplanet.com/cdc-remains-silent-on-potential-ebola-victims-in-u-s.html

        it’s not time to hit the panic button

        but ALWAYS keep this in mind

        “Yesterday we reported on remarks by CNN’s Dr. Sanjay Gupta in which he divulged that health authorities had tested at least six potential Ebola victims but that “their stories were not made public,” suggesting that the CDC was keen on preventing panic.”

        what was that last part again???

        oh yeah

        ““their stories were not made public,” suggesting that the CDC was keen on preventing panic”

        • Yes, those six were tested in New York State and were found to NOT have the Ebola virus, the tests were negative.(CNN reported that this afternoon)

      29. So why are there no total isolation measures, such as no flights to or from Africa…..

        • Simple really, the Obamafurher is on vacation in Martha’s Vineyard, and nobody is cheating “them” out of their taxpayer funded vacations, Ebola outbreak in Africa be damned.

      30. it’s very boring when one is all stocked up , armed up and prepared.

        just waiting and waiting and waiting for the sthtf.

        “sigh”

        zm

        • Have you considered taking up golf? It’s a great pass time when you have nothing better to do, like, say if you are the President of the United States.

          • “golf”

            f-that i’m more a “blow sheeit up” kind of guy.

            it just seems that something should of happened by now in America.

            like a Revolution or a Civil War maybe.

            i’m perplexed by how no one seems to want to stand up , get organized and take back the country from the murderous traitorous nwo zio-neocons.

            where is America’s new George Washington or Thomas Jefferson , i’d settle even for a Sam Adams.

            “sigh”

            the damn Russians are more American than Americans now.

            wtf?

            zm

            • Nobody is uncomfortable enough. We’ve had so much excess here that people, the real people, not the lazy welfare suckers and the buried at the office people, the real productive people have not come to the point of breaking. Its coming.

              Keep one in the chamber.

        • I will enjoy boring thank you!

        • Just last week there was a report in my local newspaper that a man in the local hospital was charged nearly $4000 for a tube of cold sore ointment! This sheet happens thousands of times every day, an with the incomprehensible medical coding process, most people have no idea.

      31. High doses of vitamin C can wipe out this virus, not pills but intravenous. Ebola is a killer due to depletion of vitamin C. Thus the bleeding of the patients that have it. A 500,000 dose will keep you going till your immune system kills the virus. Pills won’t help if you have the virus absorbed to slow. Ebola is like scurvy on steroids….

        • I would like to see some research or details on that. Not immediately discounting it, but definitely skeptical. Vitamin C is water soluble in the body, meaning the body uses what it needs and the rest is excreted unabsorbed. This could be different with Ebola, I’d just like to see the proof.

        • That’s it…

          After reading one of the links posted earlier from Satori, about the gov spending millions on a drug to treat ebola, i see what happened.

          They actually tweaked a batch of Collodial Silver and combined it with a liquified batch of highly concentrate Vitamin C, so it can be fed intravenously.

          Took them about two weeks at a cost of about 98k. (including salaries)

          The remainder of the time (years) they have blown thru the millions at conventions (parties) in Vegas & Atlantic City. And don’t forget all those subscriptions to internet porn on gov computers; to study potential test subjects.

          “Did you see that…it looked like a speck of blood on her ying/yang, it could be ebola. Get NSA on the phone and track that whore down, she might be infected.”

        • Vitamin C decreases levels of factor V in the clotting cascade = slight thinning of the blood. it’s Vitamin K that helps clotting and a lack of vitamin K = reduced production of clotting factors = bleeding. I did s little research and some of the articles out there are misleading, especially if you don’t understand the physiology behind it.

          Not arguing, just want you to have accurate information, I know a lot of people here hope to doctor themselves if SHTF. Best plan is to eat a healthy balanced diet, in times of stress take supplements and have your body in the best physical condition possible with good sleep habits.

          Vitamins A D E K are fat soluble, and I should be taken in an oil/gel cap form. All other vitamins are water soluble. If you take megadoses once a day, the body absorbs what it needs and quickly eliminates the rest via the urine. This can cause a diuretic affect = dehydration or increased thirst and water consumption. If you fell you need high doses, space them out through the day so your body can absorb it as needed.

        • Jim Stone has more details about using vitamin C against ebola, please check http://jimstonefreelance.com/ebola.html
          He recommends 1 kg of vitamin C per person stockpiled, and used in small doses as preventive measure, and in high doses when needed.

      32. Whelp, I’m public sector and the spouse is healthcare. Between the two of us and the number of compromised people we see in a day, we’re f’ked.

        • Who the he11 thumbs-down a statement of fact? Wow lol

      33. I thought I would compile some of my observations on the Ebola situation in case any of you are interested.

        One of the basic interesting points is that this epidemic involves the Zaire strain of Ebola, based on information released earlier. This strain was originally identified in the area of the Congo. The strain normally found in West Africa was labeled as Ivory Coast. So one of the first questions is, how did this strain get to West Africa? Is there any evidence for a route for the virus to travel from Congo to West Africa?

        The Zaire strain has been one of the more lethal strains with up to 90% dying but it appears that this current outbreak has a slightly lower level of lethal cases.

        The Zaire strain is also the one patented here in the US. I do not know if any other strains were patented but this was probably for use in research.

        The experimental drug is based on mouse antibodies to Ebola. These antibodies have been introduced to genetically modified tobacco which is then processed into the treatment. The treatment had not previously reached required animal studies, although some testing had been done. I saw a report initially that the survival rate in the treated monkey group was 43% while, at the same time, the reported survival rate for the outbreak was reported at 44%. These reports have disappeared and I have not been able to find them so I do not know if I remember them correctly. If I do remember them correctly, it would mean that there is essentially no difference in survival between use of the treatment and current therapies. However, I cannot say this for certain because I am only relying on memory and I may not be correct in this information.

        The company that developed the treatment has ties to the government, the military, Monsanto, Big Pharma, and the tobacco companies. The main rival to this treatment is produced by a drug company Tekmira. This treatment has progressed to the first stage of human trials but it was put on hold by the FDA a few months ago. Some reports say that there were some side effects involving the immune system that were being investigated while other reports only refer to the process of fine tuning the trial. These are typical actions that are common during Phase I of testing drugs.

        It is an interesting aside that the side effects of monoclonal antibodies tend to be the same symptoms as Ebola. They cause flu-like symptoms, nausea, diarrhea, and sometimes bleeding. They can also cause an allergic reaction. It means it may be difficult to tell how well someone is responding to treatment.

        It will be difficult to tell whether the two Americans in Atlanta are responding to treatment. They my have already been past the critical stage of infection and nearing recovery. The doctor was on Day 8 of symptoms according to one source. It is my understanding that, if people make it past seven days, they usually begin recovering, but, there is so little known about the disease that this might not be accurate.

        Although the reports show that around 100 health care workers have died, they were not necessarily wearing protective gear when they were infected. I have seen reports from nurses that, at first, many health care workers did not realize they were dealing with Ebola and they were not taking any precautions.

        The problem in health care is that doctors and nurses treat many people with common diseases and they do not live their lives preparing for the rare diseases, like Ebola. It just would not be practical to go to work every day in full protective gear. So they are vulnerable when the unusual disease shows up in a contagious form. This is also true of other diseases, like tuberculosis, influenza, and others.

        There is the danger that Ebola will spread further. Many scenarios have been described and they have variable likelihood. The next 30 to 60 days are the critical factor. If we see things begin to be contained, then it is likely that the epidemic will quiet down. If it is not contained soon, then I think there will be more serious consequences.

        Humans have faced epidemics like this before but we have grown complacent because there has not been a serious epidemic like this in a long time. There have been small localized problems or the diseases that spread in a slow chronic form (like HIV) but nothing this dramatic. In the past nations used strict quarantine, border restrictions, tracing of contacts and similar measures to prevent spread. These have always been controversial measures and this is likely to be even more so now days. The next few months will be interesting and will probably be debated by medical ethicists for decades to come.

        • Good information. It’s a tragedy that so many of the medical personnel do not have sufficient protection when it really isn’t that expensive to begin with. I have been looking at the pictures of the care givers I have seen and am amazed that so many of them only have basic clothing on and not full body protection or even a basic respirator. For the want of maybe $500-1,500 in good protective equipment, people with the rare skills needed to treat these people are lost to the very disease they are trying to stop.

          • Thank you Merree…

        • Do they know how to mess around with DNA yet?

          Can’t attack the protein sheath without attacking bloody everything… bummer. Can you make a little Norton Antivirus virus that goes in and messes with this thing’s DNA?

        • The “Zaire” strain patent is more than likely on the process to reproduce it in vitro, not on the virus itself. I know there have been cases where somebody slid through a patent on a naturally occurring substance, but that’s an exception. Naturally occurring substances are not patentable.

      34. You have to wonder is the government wanting Ebola to break out in the US? Released it would be a quick natural green way to eleminate up to90% of the population.

      35. Let me put it this way:

        Panic all ya want. I won’t. Not over this.

        There’s a shit-load of things to be concerned about, but imho, this ain’t one of them.

        I think I understand, ‘germ theory’ do you?

        Do you get the whole, Louis Pasteur vs. Antoine Beauchamp?

        http://healthyfran.wordpress.com/2007/12/11/hello-world/

      36. Borders secured… EBOLA contained. Sound familiar.

        • I hope they are incinerating their poop.

          At about 21 million degrees Kelvin… hehe…

      37. Three U.S.-based B-2 bombers will fly training missions out of Andersen Air Force Base, Guam, this month, according to Pacific Air Forces.
        The bombers deployed to Guam on Wednesday, along with 220 airmen from Whiteman Air Force Base, Mo., PACAF said in a news release.
        “This training deployment demonstrates continuing U.S. commitment to regular, global strategic bomber operations throughout the Asia-Pacific region,” the news release said.
        The Air Force Global Strike command routinely deploys bombers to Guam as a deterrent to potential adversaries, the news release said.
        http://www.stripes.com/news/pacific/guam/b-2-bombers-deploy-to-guam-sailors-rescue-swimmers-1.297045

        River Rat at the ready!!! NOMI///MOLON LABE!
        TSORIITA!!

      38. It won’t be that bad. The lamestream media is already telling people that ebola is no big deal. It’s a disease that spreads very slowly. The only wildcard would be if the government deliberately infects people in 100 different places at the same time. Then all bets are off.

      39. Hell I can answer that if they do not delete this post as well. EBOLA outbreaks began in February 2014. First human trials began in January 2014…..I wonder where? http://biotechnologyfocus.ca/t
        So why would they do this you ask? Story time kids, in 2004 we enacted a program called Bio-Shield on July18 it was a 10yr agreement with big pharma and billions of dollars. It has passed July18 2014, oooops contract is up for renewal oh and by the way under this agreement if one of their “Cures” causes death or bodily harm you cannot sue them, look surprised.
        http://www.hhs.gov/budget/fy20
        We had to read most of this damn document in the Military to understand our role in a “Pandemic”. Enjoy.

      40. i live about an hour away from Toledo Ohio and not only did the people clear the shelves of water in Toledo but in my town as well….my son works at a store and they sold 6 pallets of water that day and the Kroger store was empty also….AN HOUR AWAY.

      41. Hey Kulafarmer…

        Looks like there’s a storm brewin’.

        Tie the thatch roof down. Bring Toto and the bamboo chairs in.

        Good luck.

        • Has anybody seen Kula???

          I can’t remember if he is on the Big Island or not.

          Anyways, I bet he has one hell of a bunker, or cave to hide away in..

          From the looks of those storms he might need it.

          God bless his Hawaiian ass and keep him safe.

          • Kula,

            You and all the others out thee are in our prayers. Stay safe! I got a call last night from one of my old friends who is retired on the Big Island. He says he is about 1,000 feet above sea level and should be safe. God bless and keep you.

            Louisiana Eagle still flying after the storm, Aaiyee!

            • Eh,Kula was buying a hoyt recurve bow,storms will have nothing over him!He will be drinking and yapping on site by weekend,perhaps a little raking of property will be toughest challenge!

      42. Better to have supplies and not need them than to not have supplies and need them….that is my approach. There is a lot of information out there regarding ebola with much of it contradicting. I am personally going to assume the worst because at least in that assumption, I will be prepared. With that said….
        Some posters here and on other threads have mentioned the movie “Containgan” (sorry for misspell). I liked the moved somewhat but the best part was….Gwenyth Paltrow died in the first 15 minutes! (I can’t stand her or the other dimwit that played her husband)
        But the part of the movie that stuck with me was when the guy in charge and saw an outbreak on its way (he was played by a black guy), quietly warned his wife (in another city) to GET OUT! and buy flashlights and such. In the next scene shes in a store buying prepper stuff and she calls her friend and warns her.
        I take from this that if anything serious is about to go down that the American public will be left to twist in the wind. “Those In The Know” will save their own asses first.
        Just my thoughts on Ebola.

      43. Just letting everyone know, I received an email yesterday from a very very trust-able contact that said he knows a doctor that has worked with Ebola for the last 20 yrs or so, and the doctor says that Ebola depletes your body of 100% of its vitamin c stores. He claims that very high doses of vitamin c need to be taken to give your body’s immune system time to fight the disease. Vitamin C is not the cure, your immune system is. Sound familiar. Your immune system is the key to almost all “diseases”. The doc said on avg 500,000 mg of vitamin c daily, interveiniously taken, is a starting point.

        • Liposomal Vitamin C taken orally has been shown as effective as IV vitamin C. Glad someone else is “on the Vitamin C wagon”! :)!

      44. Health Expert: ‘No Strategic Plan’ For Controlling Ebola Outbreak

        http://dewaynenet.wordpress.com/2014/08/06/health-expert-no-strategic-plan-for-controlling-ebola-outbreak/

        “The Ebola outbreak concentrated in West Africa is “out of control,” and the international community has no organized plan to address it, a global health expert said Tuesday.

        “We’re now in a perfect storm,” Laurie Garrett, senior global health fellow for the Council on Foreign Relations, said Tuesday on a CFR conference call. “There is no strategic plan for how this epidemic will be brought under control.”

        I would suggest that everyone read this article

        and there is increasing anecdotal evidence that EBOLA can be spread by droplets in the air
        this is not the same as airborne per se
        thank God for that

      45. By Live Free or Die

        Dr. Jim Garrow joins the JJ McCartney show at the 3 minute mark of the new video below and drops more bombshells about Barack Obama’s connections to Islamic terrorists including the fact that, according to Garrow, Obama KNOWS which US shopping malls are on ‘a list’ to be attacked. Informing us that there are 103 shopping malls on the ‘attack list’, does Barack Obama really know that attacks were planned upon these malls as Garrow suggests? With all of this out in the open now, they wouldn’t possibly still go through with these ‘attacks’, would they? Video gets really hot at the 12 minute mark and onward.

      46. Off topic:

        Zippo or Bic?

        For storage I prefer bic’s but for weekend camping I like a zippo.

        For carry in my pocket I prefer bic, zippo’s leak.

        For hunting, zippo’s leak and the smell is not a cover scent, so it’s bic.

        Zippo can be used for a hands free light, like a candle.

        On some bic’s you can see how much fuel you have.

        I like zippo for the idea of being able to use anything from 151 rum to gasoline to lighter fluid for fuel. I don’t like zippo because the fuel will evaporate and you will need to carry with you some backup. The plus is that 151 rum is multi purpose and can be used for zippo fuel, pepsi can stove fuel, sterilizer and in a emergency it can be used to…….

        I like zippo when it’s windy

        With a zippo you can do repairs to it, a bic is not repairable. Keeping a couple of spare flints in it and you’re good to go.

        Zippo’s can be engraved and given as a gift.

        • I have always used Zippos, but I’m an old fart.

          I have a collection. Some go back to the WWII era. You can date them by the markings on the bottom.

          I like that you don’t have to hold a button when you toke on the bong, unlike a Bic.

          I scavenge the flints out of expired Bics for my Zippo.

          Zippo will rebuild your lighter for free if you mail it to them in Bradford, Pa. They will replace the hinge and put new guts in it…no limit on number of times.

          Zippo and Case knives are now one company…I collect a few of them, too. Good knives.

          I have never tried 151 in mine. I think I tried Coleman fuel (which is low octane gasoline) years ago, but if I remember correctly, it didn’t work. I could probably remember better if I wouldn’t have been toking on the bong. lol

        • Rick I don’t know which is better as far as Bic or Zippo goes and they both probably have their advantages. But I will say this, and I’ve had lots of practice, when it comes to disposable lighters always go with the Bic and not some other off brand. I have one in every coat pocket and every daypack and one in my pants pocket at all times. I’ve used them at 10,000 feet, just one pointer, if the temp is real cold make sure you carry your lighter in a pants pocket or shirt pocket, close to your body so that you keep the lighter and fluid warm, if carried in a pack or coat pocket sometimes they won’t light, I guess because the fluid won’t vaporize properly. Trekker Out. Semper Paratus!

      47. If this bug gets out I don’t think we will have the spread like they have in Africa. A couple of reasons we are not as social as they are., and we have better health care (for now) than they do.
        If you are unlucky enough to be in one of those areas and you have been prepping for a while you just might be OK.
        Water will be the big thing, the fuel to boil it and or bleach to clean it up.
        Sgt.

      48. DUTCH OVEN:

        Catfish Etoufee

        2 c court bouillon 4 tbs brown rue
        1 c onions, chopped 1 c scallions, chopped (including
        1/2 c celery, chopped some of the green topps)
        1/2 c bell pepper 1 tsp minced garlic
        1 can (1 lb) tomatoes, drained 4 c cooked rice
        and coarsely chopped 2 lemon slices, 1/4″ thick
        1 tbs worcestershire sauce 1 bay leaf
        1/4 tsp thyme 1 tsp black pepper
        2 tsp salt 2 lb catfish cut into 1″ chunks
        1/2 c parsley, chopped

        If rue is not fresh, warm over low heat stirring frequently. Add
        onions, scallions, celery, green pepper and garlic. Cook 5 min,
        stirring often, until soft but not brown. Add court bouillon
        stirring constantly. Add tomatoes, lemon, and seasonings. Reduce
        heat and simmer, partially covered, 30 min. Add catfish and
        parsly, stirr gently to poisten fish evenly. Simmer partially
        covered and without stirring, 10 min. Taste for seasoning. Serve
        immediatly.

        Broccoli Pie

        2 10 oz pkg Chopped Broccoli 3 c Shredded Chedder Cheese
        2/3 c Chopped onion 1 1/3 c milk
        3 eggs 3/4 c Bisquick
        3/4 tsp Salt 1/4 tsp white pepper

        Mix broccoli, 2 c of cheese, and onion in dutch oven. Beat eggs,
        milk, bisquick, salt and pepper until smooth. Pour into oven.
        Bake until toothpic comes out clean, 25-30 min at 400. Top with
        remaining cheese and melt, 1-2 min longer.

        Ham & Potatoes Au Gratin

        1-1/2 c Cooked Ham, Diced 2 c Milk
        3 c Potatoes, Diced Seasoned Salt and Pepper
        4 tbs Margarine 1/2 c Grated Cheese
        1 onion, minced 2 tbs Fine bread crumbs
        3 tbs Flour

        Melt margarine and saute’ onion. Blend in flour to make a light
        rue. Gradually add milk and cook; stirring until thickened. Add
        pepper and seasoned salt. Pour over ham and potatoes in dutch
        oven. Sprinkle cheese and bread crumbs over top. Bake at 400 for
        20 min.

        Old Fashioned Macaroni and Cheese

        8 oz macaroni 8 oz sour cream
        2 c cottage cheese 8 oz cream cheese
        1 sm onion, chopped salt & pepper
        8 oz sharp chedded cheese

        Prepair macaroni according to package instructions. Mix all
        ingredients together and place in pan. Put pan in 350 dutch oven
        for 30 min or until cheese is melted and bubbly.
        By Rosie Higher, Ft Walton Beach, Fl

        Asparagus Tart

        1 precooked pie shell 1 c Shredded Chedder cheese
        1 lb asparagus, trimmed, cut 3 tbs red pepper strips
        1-1/2″, cooked tender-crisp 2 tbs cornstarch
        1/2 tsp salt Pinch of pepper
        1-1/2 c half-&-half 3 eggs, slightly beaten
        1/4 c grated parmesan cheese

        Line shell with cheese. Top woth asparagus and pepper strips. In
        medium bowl combine cornstarch, salt and pepper. Gradually stir
        in half and half until smooth. Stir in eggs and parmeasan until
        well blended. Pour into pastry shell. Bake in 375 oven 35 to 40
        min or until knife inserted in center comes out clean. Let stand
        for 5 to 10 min before serving.

        Beef-Vegetable Soup

        2 beef soup bones 7 c water
        1-1/2 lb stew beef, 1″ cubes 1-1/2 tsp salt
        1 tsp pepper 4 med potatoes, cubed
        4 med carrots, coarsely chopped 2 (8oz) cans tomato sauce
        1 hot red pepper 1/2 smapp cabbage, coarsely
        chopped
        1 (17oz) can whole kernel corn 1 (15oz) can English peas

        Drain corn and peas reserving liquid. Add liquid, water and bones
        in large dutch oven, bring to a boil. Cover, reduce heat and
        simmer 1 hour. Add beef cubes, salt and pepper, cover and simmer
        1 hour more. Add all except corn and peas, cover and simmer 40
        min. Add corn and peas and simmer uncovered 30 min. Makes 4-1/2
        quarts

        Cowboy Soup

        Potato chunks 1 can peas
        1 lb ground beef 1 can green beans
        1 med onion 1 can baked beans
        Chili powder 1 can tomato soup
        1 can corn 1 can tomatoes
        Bay leaf nutmeg,salt, pepper

        Brown ground beef and onion together. Add all except seasonings.
        Do not drain vegetables. Cook until potatoes are done. Add
        seasonings and cook 30 min.

        Potatoes and Broth

        2 lb new potatoes, well washed 6 c water
        6 beef broth cubes

        Heat water to boiling and add cubes to form cube. Place potatoes
        in broth and simmer 45 min or until potatoes are done. Serve as a
        soup with a potato.

        River Rat at the ready!!! NOMI///MOLON LABE!!
        TSORIITA!!

      49. DUTCH OVEN:

        Homemade Biscuits

        1c + 2tbs flour 1/4 tsp baking soda
        1 tsp baking powder pinch of salt
        2 tbs crisco(solid) 1/2 c buttermilk

        Place 1 tbs crisco in bottom of oven. Place coals on oven to
        bring temperature to 500 while making dough. Combine flour,
        baking soda, salt and baking soda in bowl. Cut in crisco until
        mixture becomes grainy. Add buttermilk and stir with fork until
        it forms dough. Turn out on floured surface and briefly kneed. Do
        not over-kneed. Flatten to 1/2″ thick. Cut out with glass or cup.
        Place in oven and turn once to coat on both sides. Bake at 500
        for 10 min. or until done.

        Monkey Bread

        4 cans Biscuits 1 c Sugar
        1 c Brown sugar 4 tbs Cinnamon
        1 stick oleo

        Cut biscuits into quarters. Mix sugar and cinnamon in plascit
        bag. Drop quarters into bag and coat well. Place in dutch oven.
        Melt oleo in lid and pour over quarters. Bake 350 for 35 min.

        Bread Puddin’

        2 c Milk 2 tsp cinnamon or nutmeg
        1/4 c Butter 1/4 tsp salt
        2 eggs 8 slices week old bread
        1/2 c Sugar 1/2 c Rasins

        Dice bread into small cubes. Beat eggs and salt togather. Place
        milk and butter in 2 qt saucepan and heat until scalded. Mix in
        bread sugar cinnamon and eggs. Stirr until bread is well soaked.
        Stirr in rasins and pour mixture into 1 1/2 qt cascerole dish and
        put into dutch oven on a trivit. Bake until toothpik comes out
        clean at 350, about 30-40 min. Top with cinnamon sugar or brown
        sugar.

        Indian Bread Pudding

        2 c milk 1/4 tsp Ginger
        1/4 c Yellow cornmeal 1 egg
        2 tbs Sugar 1/4 c Molassas
        1/2 tsp Salt 1 tbs butter
        1/2 tsp Cinnamon

        Place 1 1/2c milk in dutch oven and heat to scalding. Combine
        cornmeal, sugar, salt, cinnamon and ginger, add to milk stirring
        constantly. Cook 2 min. Combine egg, molassas and butter. Add
        small ammount of the hot milk mixture, slowly. Then add to
        remaining milk mixture. Stir and cook until thickened, 2-5
        minutes. Pour remaining milk OVER (do not stirr in!) pudding.
        Cook until set, 5 minutes. LET STAND 10 to 15 minutes before
        serving

        Dump Cobbler

        1 pkg yellow or white cake mix 2 cans pie filling or
        cinnamon 1 lg can fruit coctail
        butter

        Pour cans of filling or fruit cocktail in bottom of dutch oven.
        Sprinkle cake mix over top of fruit, DO NOT STIR! Sprinkle with
        cinnamon and cut pads of butter and let fall on surface. DO NOT
        STIR, it will burn. Cover and bake until bubbly and top is
        lightly browned, about 30-45 min. Any combination of fruits can
        be used. I recomend 1 can apple filling and 1 can of fruit
        coctail.

        Giant Cinnamon-Pecan Ring

        2 1lb loaves frozen bread dough 1/2 c butter, melted
        1/2 c sugar 1/2 c packed brown sugar
        2 tsp cinnamon 1/2 c chopped pecans
        1-1/4 c suffted powdered sugar 1/2 tsp vanilla
        milk (about 4 tsp)
        Cinnamon sticks(optional) Pecan Halvs (Optional)

        Lightly grease inside of dutch oven. On a lightly floured
        surface, flatten thawed dough slightly. Cut each loaf into 4
        pieces(total of 8). Form each piece into a rope about 18″ long.
        Brush each rope on all sides with melted butter. Stir together
        sugar, brown sugar, and cinnamon. Place mixture on sheet of foil.
        Roll rope in sugar mixture to coat evenly. Shape rope into a coil
        in the center of the dutch oven. Roll another rope in sugar.
        Attach securely to end of first rope and continue coil. Cont inue
        coating ropes and attaching to form a 10-11″ circle. Sprinkle any
        remaining sugar over coil. Sprinkle with chopped pecans. Cover
        and let rise in a warm place for about 30-40 min. Bake at 350 for
        30 to 3 min or till done. Cover with foil last 15 minutes to
        prevent over browning if necessary. Cool about 15 min. Stir
        together powdered sugar, vanilla, and enough milk to make a thick
        glaze. Spoon over top of cake. Decorate with cinnamon sticks and
        pecan halves. Serves 16

        Chocolate Chip Cookies

        2-1/4 c all purpose flour 2 eggs
        1 c butter, softened 1 (12oz) semi-sweet morsels
        3/4 c sugar 3/4 c brown sugar
        1 tsp vanilla extract

        In large bowl, combine butter, sugar, brown sugar, and vanilla
        extract. Beat until smooth. Beat in egg. Gradually add flour.
        Stir in chocolate chips. Drop onto ungreased pie tin or aluminum
        pan. Inverted pie tin in 350 dutch oven

        Sugar Cookies

        1/2 c softened butter 1/2 tsp salt
        1 c sugar 2 tsp baking powder
        1 egg 2 c flour
        1/2 tsp vanilla extract

        Combine butter and sugar, stirring until well mixed. Blend in egg
        and vanilla. Add remaining ingredients and mix well. Drop onto
        greased pie tin or aluminum pan. Place on trivit or inverted pie
        tin in 400 dutch oven. Bake for 6 to 7 min.

        Hawaiian Pie

        1 stick margarine 1/2 c chopped nuts (pecans,
        peanuts,almonds)
        1 c sugar 1 tsp vanilla
        2 eggs 1 tsp vinegar
        1/2 c coconut 1 unbaked pie shell
        1/2 c rasins

        Combine margarine, sugar and slightly beaten eggs. Add remaining
        ingredients. Mix well and pour into pie shell. Place on trivit or
        inverted pie tin in 350 dutch oven. Bake for 30 min. Let stand in
        oven about 5 min after removing coals.

        Cherry Crisp

        2 cans cherry pie filling 2 sticks butter, melted
        1 white cake mix 1-3/4 c chopped nuts

        Pour pie filling in bottom of oven. Sprinkle cake mix over top
        and DO NOT STIR. Top with nuts. Pour melted butter over top. Bake
        for about 30 min at 350

        Maple Custard Pie

        1 c brown sugar 1-1/2 c scalded milk
        1/4 tsp maple extract 2 tbs melted butter
        1 tbs cornstarch 1/2 c cold milk
        3 beaten eggs pinch of salt
        2 uncooked pie shells nutmeg

        Makes 2 pies
        Into scalded milk, mix sugar, extract and melted butter. Combine
        cold milk and cornstarch and mix well. Add to mixture along with
        salt and eggs. Beat well. Pour into pie shell. Place on top of
        inverted pie tin and bake at 450 for 10 min. Top with nutmeg and
        bake another 25 min at 350

        River Rat at the ready!!! NOMI///MOLON LABE!!
        TSORIITA!!

        • Thanks a bunch River Rat! Now,m I am starving. Recipes look great, will try some shortly.
          Thanks for sharing!

      50. Hey guys been travelling…but here check this out. Natural News has an article titled “Why does the CDC have a patent on Ebola”…oh here is the Patent number CA2741523A1. Totally not nessessary to bring it to the states…only one reason I can think of, and its not a nice thought. Being a member of DECON1 in the Air Force Ebola was high on the list of nightmare infections that you can only ‘HOPE’ to contain…and they wanted us to do it with some or most of the info being “CLASSIFIED”…if you are not scared right now I am sorry for you mental disability and you should thank your care giver for changing your diapers more often.

        • I think the reason they brought them to the US is that they have total control over the patients here. If the patients stayed in Africa, they would be under examination by WHO and others, in addition to the US. I also think the doctors wanted their patients in a “safe” location and the doctors didn’t want to risk treating them in Africa.

          • Really? is that what you think? Rule number 1 in containment….NEVER MOVE THE PATIENT FROM THE LOCAL ENVIRONMENT. Not only did they violate protocol they are endangering the planet…mistakes and accidents happen…thats why they are called as much.

      51. Dr. Bones wrote an excellent article on ebola … a real eye opener. With that said, isn’t it scary how quickly the items fly off the shelf.

      52. See the map posted on ZeroHedge to understand Ebola has entered Texas where Obama has opened the border to unbounded, unvetted immigration from points all around the planet, including West Africa.

      53. It will spread quickly in the black and other minority communities, because they are that, ahem, “social”, so to speak. Don’t go to an airport or get in a cab driven by an African.

        • Maybe we can cross ebola with sickle cell anemia and kasacs and get rid of all the joos and jungle bunnies?

      54. Thank you Merree, for this info! It will be very helpful in my preparations! 🙂

      55. The government wants ebola here so we can feel bad and pay for the cure. Again.

        • Oh, crap! Ebola is one thing but congress is another. Frankly, I’m more scare of congress and the crap that they’ll try to pull.

          You know, things are so weak here economically that ebola just might be the stake in the heart that kills the economy dead.

      56. ‘What’s shocking is how Ebola patients look before they die’: British doctor working in Sierra Leone describes the horror of deadly disease

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar…y-disease.html

      57. Russian bombers penetrated U.S. airspace at least 16 times in past 10 days

        “Russian strategic nuclear bombers conducted at least 16 incursions into northwestern U.S. air defense identification zones over the past 10 days, an unusually sharp increase in aerial penetrations, according to U.S. defense officials.”

        Washington Times
        (currently posted on Drudge Report)

        • Hold on now…

          ADIZ zones are NOT US airspace. They are zones codified by the Empire whereby commercial aircraft need to identify IF they are going to enter US airspace. If not, it is international airspace and they don’t have to.

          US NORTHCOM commander Victor Renuat (2008) said “Although we never let an unidentified aircraft come into our airspace in a post 9-11 world…if it is a Russian aircraft on a training mission, we allow them to continue to do their job.”

          Sounds like the Post is stirring the pot to get public support for Empire’s new wars.

          This type of jockeying in airspace goes on all the time. There were over 30 US “spy” planes shot down during the cold war. Other than Gary Powers, none were revealed to the public at the time.

      58. Maybe an atmosphere inundated with chemtrail particulates makes the environment more conducive to the spread of this virus.

      59. 99% of the things folks worry about never happen. However that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t prepare for them. as long as you don’t go to extremes the best outcome is being prepared for a event that never happens. Of all the myrad of bad negative things the one that I personally worry about is the magnetic pole shift & its clatycismic earth change & weather events will disrupt the growing seasons and cause food shortages. Ebola is way down at the bottom of things for me to worry about

      60. PLEASE SPREAD THIS INFO –

        “Here is the treatment, complete with MOA. This is a treatment and not a cure, your immune system wipes out the virus, and the treatment gives your immune system time to do it. Here is what Ebola does that is fatal: It causes the complete removal of all vitamin C from the body. No one actually knows what mechanism is involved in doing this, other than a malfunction that is not permanently destructive to whatever is triggered to remove all vitamin C. All the researchers know is that vitamin C drops to zero and all the symptoms of ebola are consistent with a complete loss of vitamin C.”

        http://www.zengardner.com/alternative-info-potential-ebola-cure/

      61. I have a comment in moderation because of it’s link.
        it directs to a site with a treatment for this.
        It also had this to say –

        “Consider this: The elite would never release a plague without an easy cure, and along with this ebola outbreak an American biowarfare firm has been working in Sierra Leon for the last five years. Google that. Sierra Leon has actually identified them as the perpetrators of this outbreak and kicked them out of the country. There is absolutely no doubt this outbreak was intentionally caused by the U.S. war department.
        And if it is intentional, a cure is known. There would simply be no other way to do business.”

        • There is NO “…US war department”. Just because something is on Google, doesn’t make it true or correct.
          You are contributing to the speculation hysteria,perhaps intentionally? Of course you are, what good little ProgMarxist!

      62. French Report ISIS-L Leader “IS A ISRAEHELL ZIO-JEW” Mossad Agent!

        Veterans Today

        Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, so-called ”Caliph,” the head of ISIL (Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant is, according to sources reputed to originate from Edward Snowden, an actor named Elliot Shimon, a Mossad trained operative.

        Simon Elliot (Elliot Shimon) aka Al-Baghdadi was born of two Jewish parents and is a Mossad agent.

        http://themillenniumreport.com/2014/08/isil-leader-a-mossad-agent-french-report/

      63. To be honest, if Ebola broke out in Dodge, I wouldn’t want to hide out if Dodge w/my supplies.. I’d want to get the hell out of Dodge.
        We take a very different perspective.

      64. Put together a few portable isolation kits in 5 gallon buckets and sealed with a lid. Use these to stage medical and containment supplies outside your home or BOL if contact with outside family, friends, neighbors or group members is required. Be sure to give step by step written instructions and include a handheld radio (FRS) to communicate the use of the kit and how to proceed with isolation tasks from a distance. Using all the suggested items from the above previous posts in a portable kit, the contact should be able to disinfect themselves, change into clean Tyvek coveralls, mask, gloves, etc and administer any medications, then seal the potentially contaminated clothing, wash rags,etc back into the bucket to seal back up preventing re contamination. These can also be used if you need to travel into an unknown situation. Keep the supplies sealed and portable just encase your containment plans need to change or relocate.

      65. Most of you are correct. Ebola in it’s current form is “not” airborne, but take heed and be warned, if you are close enough to smell vomit, you just inhaled water vapor droplets and your as good as dead, please be safe, protect your families, and good speed!

      66. I think some people are confused with the term and meaning of “airborne”.

        While you can sneeze or cough and your bodily fluid droplets can go through the air and infect someone, that is not “airborne”. Thats aerosol, I think.

        When they say “airborne” they mean if someone is contagious and they are in the next room and the furnace plenum is in your room and the furnace comes on, it will suck air from the other room and you can get infected that way.

        I think they are pretty sure ebola is not at that stage or has that capability. Someone please correct me if I am off track here.

      67. Notice there’s several other types of virus outbreaks… Chikungunya virus and the like. There’s always something new.
        I think this is being contrived to force people into taking the vaccine they’ll inevitably roll out… and that’s when people will really start dying.
        I’m cranking out as much colloidal silver as my little machine will do. I’ve got plenty of selenium and a range of herbal cures for just about everything. If something hits my end of the world, I’m not worried. I can stay at home indefinitely.

      68. Visit Silverlist.com

        The Happy Hunting Ground for all viruses.

      69. Not sure why everyone is up in a tizzy over this. Unless you’re concerned with self-preservation – a very selfish, undemocratic value system indeed! Simply put, that which we think of as “bad” is really “good”; what we think is good is really bad, in sheer numbers terms. A war, pestilence, famine, or in this case, disease every now and again is – literally – the only thing that actually saves us poor humans from extinction.

        Why?

        Ever hear of the exponential equation? Ever think about what it does with respect to (a) population growth, or (b) consumption of limited resources? In simple terms: take the number 70 (roughly speaking – not the exact numerical term, but close enough). Divide it by whatever your… percentage is (population growth rate, rate of increase of consumption…whatever). The result is the doubling time. So if a population is growing at a mere 5%. Well 70/5=12. So every twelve years the population doubles. If you start with a million people, in 12 years its 2 million. In twelve more its four million. 12 years later its 8 million and so on. If the average lifespan is approximately 78, (78/12=6) there will be six “doublings” over the course of a persons life. SO that original million people will be 64 million people! Now consider those people want to drive (fuel), eat (food), drink (water), ..um, “crap” (sanitation disposal), etc. etc. at increasing rates…say the same 5% annual increase rate. So in a community of a million people with one overworked sewage treatment facility, in 72 years they’ll need 64 overworked sewage treatment facilities.

        B/L: sure everyone cares about themselves, their kids, their family and friends. Fine. But in gross human terms, the simple put fact is the problem is humans and their insane ability to reproduce, and consume limited resources without understanding the power of the exponential equation. In ideal circumstances we would “get it” and reign in these problems (one might consider that without increasing population and resource pressures, pandemics and such might be less likely). But as we can’t control ourselves, nature has to – and will – DO THE CORRECTING FOR US! So. Welcome the war. Welcome the famine. Welcome the pandemic, ebola or otherwise. Otherwise, we’ll populate and consume our collective selves into oblivion…and THAT would be an unrecoverable, unmitigated disaster. Spanish flu, bubonic plague, WWII (and I), etc. etc. were absolutely horrible things. Terrible tragedies. But humanity survived. And one can only imagine what the world population would be if allllll those people that sadly/terribly/tragically died, had lived & had kids, who had kids, who had kids… Wikipedia says 17 million killed in WWI. Had those people lived, and the population rate of increase been ~5% the world would be desperately trying to sustain, oh I don’t know, only about another 4.3 BILLION people! Think there’d be more fighting over resources (land, oil, food, water) if there were another 4.3 Billion people? Think there’d be any more chance of disease spreading today if there were 4.3 Billion more people?

        Now some will say – sure there’d be more fighting and more disease with 4.3 billion more people (deaths in WWI alone…), so your arguement falls apart, because these people would either kill each other or succumb to disease. The problem would self-correct.

        To which I would heartily reply: YES! That’s the POINT! The only way to combat the exponential equation is make the math work for you – otherwise nature (and man’s nature of behavior) will make it work against you.

        This is a hard, sad reality – and morally tough to wrap your mind around. Especially when you think about yourself or your loved ones. Nobody wants to be the ones to sacrifice all for the sake of the greater good (wait, what?). But some will sacrifice. And thank goodness. Otherwise in a mere handful of doublings we’d all be gone. All culture, all art, all love, all hope… all humanity.

        Welcome to the wonderful world of really simple math.

      70. People need to try Nanosilver…See:

        http://drrimatruthreports.com/dr-rima-beware-ebola-disinformation/

        Nanosilver is different from colloidal silver. Another possible option is the zapper. See

        http://superhealth.com.au/david-wolfes-longevity-zapper.html

        Also, crocodile peptide protein, which works against viruses and bacteria…

        http://www.mannasachet.ca/thefacts.html

        Finally, certain mushroom extracts can boost the immune system. These include: reishi mushroom and gynostemma.

        See http://realitysandwich.com/165465/superfoods_superherbs_super_immunity/

        Other immune boosting options are royal jelly, olive leaf extract, and lypospheric vitamin c.

      71. 35% food grade hydrogen peroxide is another possible option for ebola. It works on viruses and bacteria.

      72. Your faith in JESUS is the BEST to have in LARGE supplies!

      73. You are all paranoid people! They sent the 2 Americans to the States for treatment period! They have it under control completely. This compared to the more deadly diseases being cooked up daily by FDA is nothing people! My wife is a Doctor in Sudan, vrry near to the problem and has revently treated 2 Ebola cases here! Seriously get a grip, go and worry about the Russian US cold war starting up all over again, thats far more dangerous than 2 little people in a contained iunit in the states, get a grip!

      74. We can bank on Obowellmovement & his cohorts to try to ban guns in a crisis like this.
        In fact, his latest EO allows him to “limit gun purchases” whatever that means.

      75. I highly doubt an all-out panic would occur with a first case of Ebola in the USA.. maybe in the associated town, but not nationwide.
        At that point though, more people might start to prep.

      76. Thanks to my father who told me concerning this weblog, this webpage is
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      77. First case just reported in US – Sept 30- 2014

      78. Why N95 instead of P100? P100 looks like a better option and they work about the same

      79. @ God’s Creation….I think there is some colloidal silver in behind a false tooth that the dentist put in my mouth back in 1979 or 1980. So hopefully it will help, if the need ever rises. Has anyone read the word and kept to it lately because I don’t remember the book, chapter, or verse…where it says if you read it and study it and keep the statutes, God will protect you from such diseases.

      80. For one, he will install a tankless water heater for you.
        If your drainage system is not maintained, it can result in the pipes getting rusted over
        a period of time due to wear and tear and other reasons.
        Just make sure you find the right plumber who is good at drain cleaning and you will be good to go.
        Buchwald planned to hook the 2010 Vac-Con to a fire hydrant to supply water to
        the 2011 machine stationed at the east stairwell.

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