We Have Just Witnessed The Last Gasp Of The Global Economy

by | Nov 6, 2014 | Commodities, Headline News | 267 comments

Do you LOVE America?


    This analysis and commentary was originally published by Brandon Smith at Alt-Market.com.

    It is difficult to find the motivation to write about the state of the global economy these days, if only because there is not much left to say. I feel like I am composing multiple obituaries for the same long dead corpse. Most of the Liberty Movement and I suspect a small portion of the mainstream market understand that there is no tangible or legitimate recovery, let alone a stable fiscal ladder to rest our feet upon. There is literally nothing left to the financial system but rigged statistics, false promises, and ever expanding debt. In fact, the concept of debt creation is the only thing holding our facade of an economy together.

    You and I probably find this rather strange. We come from a long forgotten school of economics, in which demand, supply, and savings actually mean something in terms of our fiscal health. I have come across many mainstream economic acolytes and cultists in recent months who disregard ALL logic and reason, forsaking the realities of demand based trade and immersing themselves in a grand delusion in which central bank generated debt and inflation are the real source of “prosperity”. I feel sorry for them in a way, because the truth is right in front of their faces, and yet, they will never see it, not until they are buried alive in it.

    Nothing makes this problem more apparent than the behavior of equities in the past month.

    Stocks are, of course, a sham of the highest magnitude, but they do still say something about the greater truth behind our financial condition. The fact that many market traders clearly KNOW that it’s all a farce, and are actually banking and betting on the scam, tells me exactly how close we are to the end of the line. The recent near 10% drop in the Dow at the beginning of Fall must have certainly been a shock for the day trading community as well as mainstream pundits. The assumption for the past few years has been that central bank stimulus guarantees a constantly growing bull market, and to experience a considerable decline in equities even while QE was still in action was at least a noticeable wake up call.

    I suspect that this decline in markets was not necessarily planned by the central banks, and was a stumble in their scheme to keep stocks elevated until after the QE taper had settled. It was also a stumble I expected a little earlier, around the end of Summer to be exact. Since the drop, central banks and the mainstream media have reacted forcefully to manipulate public perception as well as investor optimism, but this cannot go on for much longer.

    In almost every instance of market decline, financial news group Reuters has injected false rumors of more stimulus from the European Central Bank. This was also the case in October as markets began to crash. These rumors were later dashed by the Financial Times, but not before the mere mention of more fiat stimulus from any central bank sent stocks soaring yet again.

    This also occurred when middle management Federal Reserve member John Williams hinted in interviews of the possibility of “QE4” if the economy began to show signs of regression. Williams, of course, has no say in the decision to reintroduce QE, but this did not matter to investors, who immediately latched onto the meaningless news like anxious children, and threw their money back into stocks again.

    And, most recently, Japan’s central bank announced a sudden and surprising re-ignition of stimulus measures to the tune of 80 Trillion Yen a year. This announcement, once again, sent global stocks skyrocketing, even though it was a stark admission by Japan’s financial elite that all their inflationary printing efforts for the past several years have failed miserably.  As I have warned in the past, when bad news becomes good news because bad news promises more central bank intervention, the economy is truly on the verge of a reckoning.

    Hopefully, we can all see the trend taking place here. With the end of the Federal Reserve taper now complete, and questions circling as to when interest rates will be raised, a market volatility not seen since 2008-2009 is returning. The ONLY measure that has slowed the crash is the use of false news stories hinting at further stimulus, as well as futile efforts by other central banks to pick up where the Federal Reserve left off. This shows that the investment world is so thoroughly addicted to QE that even the mere hint of another small fix of their favorite drug is enough to get them out of bed and excited. They know that the entire system is rigged by central banks, and they don’t care. In fact, they revel in it. The only goal of your average day trader now is to profit on the scam for as long as humanly possible, even though the ultimate conclusion of the scam will mean the utter destruction of their profits and the end of their way of life.

    I hate to use a cinema analogy for a very real threat, but investors today remind me of Joe Pantoliano’s character in ‘The Matrix’; the guy who is fully aware that the Matrix is an illusion, but wants to experience the pleasure of the illusion all the same. So much so that he doesn’t mind being exploited like a slave by the system, and is willing to sacrifice all measure of truth and even the future just to get a taste of the fantasy again.

    But what is the reality that the central banks are trying to hide, and why? This I have written about in detail on literally hundreds of occasions, so I will only cover the very latest news briefly here, and why I think the overall dynamic is about to change for the worse.

    Global exports, and thus consumer demand, are plunging. Germany, the only pillar left to prop up the failing European Union, has experienced a severe decline in exports not seen since 2009.

    China, the largest exporter and importer in the world, and Chinese companies, have been caught in a number of instances using fraudulent invoices to artificially inflate their own export numbers, in some cases reporting 50% more exported goods than had actually existed.

    China’s manufacturing has also declined for the past five months, exposing the nature of its inflated export stats and indicating a global slowdown.

    The Baltic Dry Index, a measure of global shipping rates for raw goods, and thus a measure of demand for shipping, continues to drag along near historic lows.

    The U.S. consumer (the only economic asset the U.S. has besides the dollar’s world reserve status), has seen declines in spending as well as wages.

    In the meantime, long term jobless Americans continue to fall off welfare rolls by the millions, making unemployment numbers look good, but the overall future picture look terrible as participation rates dissolve into the ether of government statistics.

    How is such poverty being hidden? Foodstamps. Plain and simple. Nearly 50 million Americans now subsist on food stamp programs today, and this number shows no signs of dropping. In states like Illinois, two people sign up for food assistance for every citizen that happens to find a job.

    But this is all rudimentary. Most analysts in the Liberty Movement agree that our fiscal structure is on the edge of collapse; what they tend to bicker about is HOW and WHEN the structure will collapse.

    Guessing market declines has been extremely difficult in the midst of a fiat soaked fiscal environment.  Nothing is ever quite what it seems.  My predictions of a 10% drop by the end of Summer were off by three weeks. Because of the nature of QE stimulus manipulation of the Dow, our only real guide has been the timeline of the Fed taper, and the fact that major banks have been relying on fed fiat to continually cycle capital into equities through the use of low interest loans to corporations and the stock buyback scam. Company buybacks have given steady boosts to the markets at least since 2008, and many corporations are using up to 50% of their “profits” just to continue buying their own stocks.

    This strategy, however, is reaching a point of diminishing returns as many companies are issuing too much debt in the process. IBM is a perfect example of a company that has hit the ceiling on stock buybacks.  This odd coordinated attempt by corporations and central banks to keep markets propped up even as companies sacrifice whatever debt stability they had left indicates a state of collusion between such institutions that goes far beyond the mere idea of “mutually assured greed”.  Since at least 2008, there has indeed been a “conspiracy” amongst banks and international companies to generate a massive stock bubble designed to keep the masses calm and placated.  However, these groups understand, better than many give them credit for, that such measures will have to end, or be revealed.

    With the taper finished and QE money drying up, it is important to ask a few questions. For example, how are companies going to continue to accumulate capital to dump into their own stocks if fed money is becoming scarce and consumer spending is in decline? And, if they can’t continue stock buybacks because of a lack of funds or an overburden of debt, how are equities markets going to stay afloat?

    And what about government debt? As it stands now, foreign interest in U.S. treasury bonds is waning. The vast majority of new bonds sold are short term. Until now, the Fed has been the primary buyer of long term debt, snapping up 10 year bonds from the market while other investors lose confidence in America’s ability to pay off liabilities in the future. Now that QE is over, who is going to buy the ever expanding U.S. government debt? I aimed this question recently at a Fed cultist and his response was “Well…obviously somebody will buy it…”, though he couldn’t specify.

    The spike in short term debt purchases after the end of QE3 was also predictable, but it can only be sustained IF stocks begin to fall considerably yet again.  Think about it; interest in U.S. debt has been on the decline for years, not just because foreign banks are shifting away from the dollar, but also because stocks have been a much more attractive investment with greater returns guaranteed by Fed QE.  The taper announces a violent change in circumstances.  The only way for interest in U.S. debt to be energized, even for a short time, is for stocks to crash, leaving bonds as the only safe haven left.  I discussed this development in detail in my article ‘The Final Swindle Of Private American Wealth Has Begun’ at the beginning of this year.  All other investment avenues seem to be in decline, from foreign markets and forex, to commodities like oil.  Even gold and silver have taken a hit.  For the average investor, if a rout in stocks occurs, they will immediately jump into bonds.  This plays into my theory on the coming financial end game, which I will be discussing in my next article.

    Investor’s are counting on an eventual QE4, but I think this might also be wishful thinking.

    At the end of 2013, I predicted the Fed would indeed follow through with the taper of QE3, and that they would drastically reduce stimulus measures. I believe this is in preparation for a major implosion of U.S. markets in particular. The whole point of the taper is to support the illusion that the U.S. economy has recovered, and that the Fed has “accomplished its mission”. When a crash does take place, I think it will be ALLOWED to move freely and that new QE intervention will not be taken.  I have no doubt this crash will be blamed on an outside force or act of fate (the ebola outbreak, which is doubling in cases every three weeks, is a perfect possible catalyst), and that banks will be absolved of all blame in the mainstream.

    A coming crash is not only my personal view.  It is important to note that behind the background noise of the recovery party, international bankers are sending a very different message about economic health.

    On the same day as the Federal Reserve announced the end of QE3, former chairman Alan Greenspan gave a speech to the Council On Foreign Relations in which he lamented that the QE unwind would be painful, that stimulus measures had not achieved their goals in the past, and that gold might be a good investment today.

    The International Monetary Fund and the ECB also released statements warning that “accommodative stimulus policies” could contribute to economic volatility. That is to say, stimulus might be setting the stage for fiscal instability. The IMF claims that “bold action” is required to “reset” the global system.

    And, the ever present overlords at the Bank Of International Settlements have posted a stark warning about our financial future, predicting a “violent reversal” in markets. The last time the BIS made such a prediction was in the summer of 2007, just before the derivatives crash. But this is the M.O. of the central banks, to warn of coming calamity just before the event, but not long enough before the event to make any difference. They present themselves as prognosticators of economic future, but in reality, they are the instigators of every disaster they predict.

    I do not know how the markets will react to the likely landslide “victory” by Republicans in mid-term elections (can one ever be “victorious” in a rigged contest?), but what I do know is that a Republican majority offers an even greater opportunity for further collapse.  Negative movements in markets that have been obstructed through manipulation can now be unleashed and then blamed on “government gridlock”, or the inability of conservatives to “compromise” fiscally.  A Republican shift in government only offers more cover for a collapse that is slated to occur regardless.

    I believe that the admissions of financial danger by internationalists, the sharp drop in stocks at the beginning of fall, the reversal of the political theater, and the fact that mainstream investors now recognize the illegitimacy of the markets yet continue with the scam anyway, signals the last gasp of the global economy. I expect increasing market instability from this point on, as well as numerous geopolitical distractions which will be blamed for the fiscal chaos. I have left out my explanation of the final end game so that I can cover it more fully in my next article. Needless to say, the coming storm is a deliberately engineered one, meant to achieve very specific goals, including a fearful and panicked populace, easy to manipulate as the system goes off the rails for the last time.

    You can contact Brandon Smith at[email protected]

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      1. PLEASE…Not Again.

        • Brandon Smith: “I feel like I am composing multiple obituaries for the same long dead corpse.”

          Sigh. You’re not the only one, although it is a minority voice.

          The optimists and the bulls are laughing hard and mocking your multiple obituaries, calling your stuff doomsday porn, a sky-is-falling alarmist, and other unpleasantries. And they’ll point to the evidence that none of the things that you predicted have come to pass to justify their mockery and scoffing.

          So here’s the choice:

          A) Admit that they’re right and you’re wrong.
          B) Admit that they’re partially right and you’re partially wrong.
          C) Admit nothing, and double down on your collapse predictions.

          I can see B, but lean more towards C.

          • Having circumnavigated through ’08 clusterfuck still alive and kicking, when it appeared that “this is it, the BIG one has finally arrived, we are going down”, then 6 years later we’re still chugging along, who here would have thought that that was possible? No way can this sinking ship be kept afloat for 6 years, right?

            Well, since they control EVERYTHING, they can keep the corpse alive on their form of illusory life support for allot longer than “the last gasp”.

            Imagine, if you will, that another 6 years from now, our soft fascist police state has turned into a medium fascist police state (the programmed minds of the masses still self absorbed in texting while they sustain themselves on rice and water), and a whole new group is posting here (the present locals realized there was better things to do with their time), i.e. the names changed, the articles and comments, although carefully worded to avoid getting hauled off, still spouted out the same “this is it, next week, it’s all going to go to hell”.

            Ho hum.

            • Oh you will not even know when the Government Hits the Wall, as they will shut down the banks steal all your wealth and blame in on an EMP Glitch. Then begin to issue you another US Currency, and you will not have a chance to argue it.

              So right now you are better off taking all your Cash out of the bank, buy everything you need for 2 to 5 years, and turn any excess cash into AMMO, or average down in a Metal like silver, which will still be worth more than US Fiat Paper Currency. When everything crashes Metals will climb again, but you will not be given the actual value, since there will be no markets trading in real time you will have access too.

              • “It is difficult to find the motivation to write about the state of the global economy these days, if only because there is not much left to say. I feel like I am composing multiple obituaries for the same long dead corpse.”

                Then do us all a favor Brandon and quit writing and go away.

                • Jasmine, follow your own advice.

              • You go first.

                • No need for me to leave, I’m not the one whining and acting like a crybaby, Brandon is. Note to Brandon, suck it up buttercup. Go big or go home.

                  • yea but the plan is to keep it limping along ,so there can begin to be a falling away ,as witnessed on the comment’s here after this post ,maybe Brandons post might be repetative (i dont feel as though they are),but thats what keeps the fire lit ,reminds us that even though it looks good ,looks are decieving ,and what about the new person to the blog ,and this is his first time recieving this info ,so to those that just got to bitch here’s what you can do ,when you first come to the page and you see Brandon Smith’s name ,just leave and come back tommarrow ,maybe go turn the tv on and see if you can catch an episode of snooky shaving her ass

                  • No one is forcing you to be here or to read my articles. So, who is really the “whiner”?

                  • What is your problem???

                  • e.g.o.(everyone’s got opinions)

                    here’s mine:

                    just like ebola, this collapse, that’s been coming for such a long time, is just another way for all ya’ll on this site to grasp at straws and hope something bad will happen so that you can live like redecks or the cast of the walking dead.

                    if you all want to live in the bush, wiping your asses with leaves while its exposed to an endless amount of mosquitoes sucking at it, then get off those lazy asses, get away from the computer and go for it.

                    maybe a black bear will do us the favor of ceasing your endless stupidity you like spreading on the internet as though you all thought you were brilliant.

                  • Note to Brandon:
                    After the opening whine I didn’t bother to read. As for being forced to come here….. I come here voluntarily to read intellectually stimulating and insightful information. Which is why I don’t bother with your drivel.

            • Stock market going up again today. Another fat middle finger jab to the nose of the doomsday financial collapse predictors.

              I get it, but I don’t get it. I understand it, but I don’t understand it. Whatever. Just prep.

              • The stock market is simply a rigged casino. They control it. They decide everything. The only thing you need to understand is that it’s an illusion, designed to suck money out of the middle class investor who is already up to his/her eyeballs in debt. The casino is in place to keep ‘the majority of the’ money flowing to “them”. Up, Down, it doesn’t matter. They just keep manipulating the roulette wheel, given a little here and there to those idiots who think it’s real to keep them in the game.

                EVERYTHING IS CONTROLLED AND MANIPULATED, EVERYTHING! Even the minds of the masses.

                Even this concept of “collapse”; a form of manipulation. If one believes hard enough, it will happen (to them personally). Ignore it all. Cold turkey the internet for a week or two and you’ll see things in a totally new light…make that LIGHT!

                If you’re loggin on everyday, coming here everyday, then they’ve got you, right where they want you. (I bet that statement will push more than a few buttons)

                • It can only go up. The Federal Reserve keeps it going up by printing 85 billion in fiat currency per month to make sure it goes up. Any hint no matter how small that they will end this process causes the markets to plummet. At the first sign of hyper inflation these markets will crash. Crash harder and faster than in anytime in history.

                  The only reason we have not seen hyper inflation is that the rest of the world is in worse shape than we are thus there is a flight to safety from other countries to our shores. Once that illusion is shattered by hyper inflation, poof the bubble bursts.

                  At that point in time China, our once most hated communist country, that we owe all this money to will demand that we pay up and not in hyper inflated dollars. Oh no, it will be for some thing much bigger. Say like the state of Alaska or all of our commonwelths. For what else do we have to pay them back with? War?


                  • ah yes, my pumpkin soup recipe. Soon I will have it on paper and give it out to you all. Tasty!


                  • We can pay them in Plutonium.

                    … it may be a smidge warm when they take delivery, however.

                • No doom porn for a week?

                  But who will validate all my rice and beans?

                  Good advice, especially the part about making the light… very profound actually. But, after some time, being the light causes moths to gather, and vampire off your good nature and positive energy.

                  Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. I try to find a balance. And venting is healthy.

                  • You are right. No need to worry at all… that is, until it is too late.

                    Just ask everyone who was in the stock market the day after Black Thursday in Oct. 1929

                • European..

                  I only visit here, and many other places, as entertainment,noteworthy commentary, and the ability to yell back once in a while.. unlike the smart tv which I don’t own..oh wait..yes you can yell back @ the smart tv..nevermind..

                  One can watch the cable for a myriad of good cop/bad cop news..all one in the same..


                  One can visit here and others for some insight not provided by the former..

                  After all

                  we know nothing at all will change..

                  it never does

                  Prepare accordingly

                  Enjoy the day


              • Whateverman, could possibly be the BEST post ever written on these pages! That was TRULY hilarious and accurate for 99% of ” preppers” everywhere.

          • Told ya all the Bad News will come out after the Election.
            Well Check this out: Absolute Power is Corrupt, and in Contempt.
            Obama Admin Waits Until Election To Dump 64,000+ Pages In Fast & Furious Operation

            Watch more economic numbers to be adjusted after the election that reflects we are heading down the drain.

            Silver Dropping to $15.39 / Oz
            Gold dropping to $1142 /Oz
            Oil $78.20 /Barrel

          • Too many “analysts” substitute wishful thinking for a clear understanding of trends and events; for which they have NO formal education, experience in the financial industry, or common sense.

            I mean, think about it. John Williams has all of that yet his forecasts have not manifested either. Then there is Future Money Trends who has all of that and the price of silver declines within a week of every propaganda video they produce for the masses.

            Pick your analysts carefully. Brandon has NONE of that and his forecasts are no better (or worse) than theirs; which is to be expected.

            What goes up must come down. It always does. The next crash is not “collapse” as an “End of America” financial event. It is the NATURAL business cycle that must eventually emerge from a manipulated market that has exceeded the median business cycle.

            This “recovery” is different because the consumer has not participated in the recovery. Stock buybacks and mergers and acquisitions happen in every cycle and always foreshadow the end of that market cycle. They are just additional ducks in a row waiting for the “trigger event”.

            Whether the market implodes, or whether it continues to decline gradually is up for grabs: that is, its a 50-50 chance. Clearly the FED and the banks are fencing the market and trying to ratchet it down on a PE ratio basis.

            Unless September GDP numbers are “re-adjusted” and re-adjusted down, the published 3.5% growth rate could signal the start of a new but short business cycle that could take the DOW and S&P much higher over the next year before the next Crash.

            Geopolitical situations could trigger corrections in the interim, and they would send investors scurrying to the DOLLAR for safety as I predicted here last year as everyone bemoaned the “weak dollar”. The conflict between the West and Russia is exacerbating despite Russian efforts to placate the West by supplying Ukraine with natural gas.

            Low gasoline prices in the USA will boost the American economy and set the stage for a return of manufacturing to the US and a resurgence in job formation here. Jobs are increasing in number. Maybe not where YOU are at, but I see growth in the Western States. It is limited because there is no housing rebound, but infrastructure spending is obvious here in Arizona.

            Abroad, the stronger dollar will boost Geran exports, and the ECB has been given additional powers to make it more FED like in its functions. Small banks will be eliminated in Europe as i have said before, and the NWO GB will tighten their grip on the continent.

            According to Bible prophecy Europe becomes the dominant military and financial power. That process will happen through collapse or not, but it will happen. China, still the BIG BOY on the block now, will experience its first Depression and will need time to sort things out at home as it moves from an export model to a service economy over the next five years, to lift its additional poor.

            Invest in gold, speculate with silver, and hoard your lead. They won’t be making any more of it after the “Changes”. 🙂

            • DK

              How do you see the ag commodity prices affecting the job market?
              Where do the prices go from here?
              Are they a lagging indicator or at the forefront of what is next?
              The price dropped, rose, and has now stagnated. I see the drought in Brazil letting up and soybeans getting planted forcing a price drop. China, however, is now apparently hungry for soy. Corn is in demand due to the sub $4 board price. What happens in the near future when that price rises? Will the price of beef and pork considerably lower? It should be lower now, with the price drop in the past 6 months. What do the traders and speculators know that we don’t?
              I look for a short term rise, as the corn and bean harvests come to and end.
              Then I see a price downturn:

              Why do I say that? Gut feeling coupled with some standard reporting from both the USA and South America.

              Commodities are going down, food prices are not, but should in the intermediate future. Say, 9-18 mos. What I mean is the least processed types of food that aren’t grown in California.

              Considering that nearly everything that is reported and seen could be smoke and mirrors, maybe I’m just fooling myself. I hope I’m not, but……


              • Stig: I don’t follow AG prices, and have no special training in those commodities, so I am not qualified to hazard a guess at support levels and wouldn’t know where to begin.

                Overall I expect groceries to be more expensive over time, as has been the trend, with buying opportunities for shoppers following the sales; where they can increase their canned food, and vacuum pack their own meat,in advance of disaster.

                Mid term, longer term, Famine is coming to the USA and the rest of the world in a way that it has never before manifested in modern times. This is a few years away and the consequences of war and additional Earth Changes and corresponding volatility in weather patterns and growing seasons.

                I urge everyone to develop your back yard and a grow room to grow your own food. Food will become much more expensive then if it is now, if it is available at all.

                Please, folks, plan accordingly. 🙁

                • Food is the key..going up all the time..


                  • Mac

                    I’ve been posting here for years now and every comment is awaiting moderation..what gives?


                  • Possee: Yes food prices are the fly in the ointment, but with hydrocarbons on an extended decline; the best experts predicting two or three years, (WOW!) production costs should stabilize or decline as Stig believes and this should translate into stable prices for everything except avocados and almonds.

                    Buy as much as those as you can. Almonds are very anti-cancer and the prices should skyrocket with the groves in California being up rooted. 🙁

            • off topic to DK: in a different post you mention AZ is still a good place to relocate – where are the best places with abundant water? Is is as drought-stricken there as CA? I am being serious, I want the hell out of CA. Thank you!

              • ghost, I’m here in Tucson. We recently made a deal with Phoenix to take on their water overflow. Believe it or not,the politicians are ahead of the curve in this regard. we are preparing for rough times ahead. But as to your question, up north,away from Phoenix and the big cities. Magollen Rim comes to mind

              • you people asking DicK for advice are just embarrassing yourselves and just shows how being loud, obnoxious, and drowning in a pool pf narcissistic self-omflated confidence despite all reality will get you all kinds of sheep to follow you. No different than the swooning idiots who worshipped obama!

                • Get a Clue, you’ve got some nerve comparing the good people on this site to Obama supporters, which we are NOT. So go f#$% yourself!

                • Actually DK is one of the most intelligent ones on this board and I learn something from each post. Get A Clue! however sounds angry, bitter, and without a clue.

              • Ghost: Yes, Arizona is still a good place to relocate and the political climate is perfect! No Arizona hasn’t been hit as hard as California, but precipitation has been lower than normal for a number of years.

                That condition seems to be mitigating somewhat. The “drought” evidenced by the lower levels of Lake Mead and Lake Powell, are manifestations of the lack of snow melt in the Rockies from where that lake water originates.

                I spent the summer in Northern Arizona as I have the past four or five years and there was an abundance of rain: a good shower or two nearly everyday. Homeowners saving the rain that hits their roof into rain barrels will have more water. Arizona does not claim the tears of the angels as its own.

                I do not want to post here, the best BOL locations with water in Arizona because while there is good water for those who own it, there is not enough water for 18 million people in Southern California who will need fresh water when the BIG ONE hits next year; or the year after.

                Surprisingly, even in the lower elevations there are springs and good water tables in some locations of the foothills. Some foothills are absolute sponges for water
                and have been absorbing rainfall for 500 million years. But you wouldn’t know it unless you drilled a well or dug a mine. That’s why these desert mines must be pumped free of water to operate.

                Spend some time on “Home Finder” for the smaller cities and towns in Arizona, or “Farms and Ranches” and you can get a better picture for yourself. Everyone has a place to be. Go within for yours. 🙂

                • Thank you.

                • My last post never made it through moderation.

                  Apparently, pointing out Arizona’s water problems and it’s Nazi-like police with links to articles will get you censored by Mac.

                  I wondered if this would be the case even before I hit the “Submit Comment” tab. LOL… I was right!

                  • YMWW, Mac NEVER practices censorship, so quit lying.

                  • WWTI: LOL…..thanks for that….


                • AZ = Scorpions, snakes, hunta virus, bubonic plague in fleas, centipedes, rabies, wind scorpions/camel spiders, bats, rabid coyotes, terrantualas, tarrantuala hawks, terrible alkali soil and water, crazy wind, crazy HEAT, cactus, etc.

                  Bad place to relocate….


                  • (Note to readers: PKLL lives in Arizona. 🙂 LMAO!)

                  • Note to readers: The durango kidd lives in Scottsdale Arizona. LMAO!!!

            • “Whether the market implodes, or whether it continues to decline gradually is up for grabs: that is, its a 50-50 chance. ”

              UHH , Even being ignorant and uninformed as to the in’s and out’s of the market , I would think it should be obvious that it will be a slow slide to bottom .

              Its the boiling frog thingy , people sdapt to getting less return and they adapt to having less purchase power and they adapt to high gasoline prices only because these things happen slowly.

              So , they will steal wealth from the workin man slowly so he stays in his chair and watches football.
              We dont want him in the streets with a pitchfork.

              • HH: I would agree that we are looking at a slow slide down; but not to the bottom; only to a lower plateau where a sustainable trading range can emerge without an implosion.

                That said, I expect the direction of the economy to be defined by Christmas sales. Another poor Christmas season would put the last nail in the retail coffin by the first of March. A good Christmas sales season and the market could rally higher.

                IE The Santa Clause rally everything else being equal. 🙂

                • And you are basing this assumption on what? Where is the positive economic news, the concrete data, that balances out the vast array of negative news?

                  • Brandon: I am basing this forecast on 45 years of watching financial markets, banking, and economic experience unfold year after year, with considerable financial education, experience, and documented expertise as my basis for interpretation of events and trends.

                    Probably 25 more years that you have been alive. 🙂

                    The same data is basically available to everyone today who has internet access. As an outdoorsman I have no doubt you have watched the night sky in the dark many times. Everyone looks up, but not everyone sees the same thing. Some see the majesty of God’s Creation, others tiny, blinking led’s in the sky.

                    Some with a keener eye see the Big Dipper and can find the North Star. Others, with a more practised view can see Orions Belt and can pick out various planets, stars, and constellations. A few can see past these obvious phenomena and grasp a bigger picture: star clusters, galaxies, and strings of matter in a web like pattern connecting it all.

                    The same is true for economics and finance. Everyone can see the same data, but not everyone can connect the dots. This is the ART of economics and finance. The difference is interpretation: recognition, perception, and intelligence. It separates the gearhead wannabes from the Master Mechanic.

                    Give that wrench another turn. 🙂

            • The dollar is the final trap in the series of scams being perpetrated. As I have explained many times in the past, the GOAL is to drive what capital and savings remain into T-Bonds and the Greenback, or into the MyRA program. Once suficient wealth has been transferred, the IMF will announce it’s shift away from the U.S. due to it’s refusal to sign off on the 2010 policy changes. The dollar will collapse in value, along with dollar denominated financial instruments. This is not about “forecasts” – the elites have openly admitted this is the plan, for anyone actually paying attention…

              • Brandon: Apparently you have missed MY CALLS which have been right on the money. I nailed the bottom for gold at exactly $1200 an ounce, seven months in advance (which was the closing price on that day); when gold was over $1700 an ounce.

                I have gone against the grain of “forecasters” like you, Williams, and others who were screaming “HYPERINFLATION” because you and they did not understand or remember the basic fundamental requirements that QE had to reach the hands of the consumer for inflation to develop; and I have repeatedly stressed that deflation is the real danger: which it is.
                I did that for four years while you and the folks here who believed you foamed at the mouth about hyperinflation. Where is it? That error demonstrated your lack of understanding about how the FED really works. Its a basic misconception that anyone with a college level economic class, would have, should have, known. You didn’t. You are clueless.

                I have explained here why there is no “shortage” of silver when FMT was touting a one year supply of silver above ground; and I have warned the readers here about the FACT that silver declines within a week of a propaganda post for silver by FMT. The first time Daniel made that pump silver push, silver declined 25% by the following Friday: classic “pump and dump”.

                I have alerted to posters here at SHTF Plan to your ignorance about Global Finance because you seem to believe that the IMF pulls the strings. You couldn’t be further from the truth. The IMF has no power to do anything without the power and approval of the FED and ECB behind it. The IMF is desperately looking to find relevance for itself in a world that doesn’t need it.

                The IMF is the corpse you have been singing your dirge over, but you do not even recognize that fact; which again evidences your lack of financial understanding. China has recently incorporated the Asian Industrial Bank to fulfill that role for the Third World after rebuffing the IMF trial balloon to move to China.

                Please Brandon you are wasting your time with the IMF. Direct your intelligence to the real dangers. Those dangers are to our Constitutional Rights. Go to law school, get a JD, and become Larry Klayman 2.0 It would be the best thing you ever did.

                For you, and for US. 🙂

            • yeah better get that bible ready for supper. if you’re sh1t out of luck, maybe you can say a prayer and a burger might fall from the sky to feed your stupid ass.

          • Actually, almost everything I have predicted has come to pass, but that’s not really important. What is important is the DATA, and the questions surrounding that data. Mainstream financial cultists can mock all they want; they were the ones who were blatantly wrong about the derivatives and credit bubble. They were the ones that said gold would never reach $1000 an ounce. They were the ones who said that the bailouts would reignite the loan market (which never happened). Their track record on predictions pales in comparison to independent analysts. It’s funny, but I think the skeptics have been watching too many movies. They all seem to think that collapse occurs overnight. Collapse is a PROCESS. America is in the latter stages of that process right now. The Great Depression and the Weimar crisis took years to develop. Mainstream pundits argued that recovery was “right around the corner” before those disasters as well.

            The only “measure” of economic health that is positive today is the stock market. A market utterly and provably manipulated. I have yet to come across a single financial optimist that can actually produce concrete evidence of recovery. Why is that, I wonder?

        • This is the final stage in the destruction of America, to bring in the North American Union.

          This is why Mitch McConnell said the first thing he wanted to do after Tuesday’s Republican sweep was to work with Obama on the “trade agreements” that were on his desk:


          This has been the goal of the globalists for a long time now:


          And the true reasons behind geopolitical events and policies and the machinations used to subjugate nation-states to regional government, and convince or force the populations to accept these regional governments euphemistically called “trade zones” or “free trade agreements,” and why NAFTA and other so-called “free trade agreements” are so fiercely supported by both Republican and Democrat leaders in the United States.

          The United States of America has never witnessed such a magnitude of treason on so large a scale as is presently being perpetrated by its leaders in both political parties. This “back door” treason has gone unnoticed by the majority of the people, although its effects are painfully felt in the loss of jobs, economic opportunity and freedom.

          The globalist engineered economic collapse is being used to convince, at least some of the people, that nation-states are inherantly risky, and result in wars over resources, and economic instability.

          • Holly Cow – A Sgt COP Does the RIGHT THING.

            CHP Sergeant Finds $120K In Middle Of Concord Street; Cash Returned To Man Who Had Lost Life Savings
            October 27, 2014 2:12 PM
            CONCORD (CBS SF) — A man’s life savings have been recovered after an off-duty California Highway Patrol sergeant found over $120,000 in cash in the middle of a Concord roadway, CHP officials said Monday.
            While driving in a personal car on Concord Boulevard recently, the sergeant had to swerve around two bank deposit bags in the roadway to avoid hitting them, according to the CHP.
            The sergeant made a U-turn and went to retrieve the two bags, which had tire marks on them, and looked inside to find “a lot of cash,” CHP Contra Costa area spokesman John Fransen said.
            “I opened it and it was filled with hundreds of hundred dollar bills,” the officer said
            CHP officials said the off-duty officer, a 20-year CHP veteran who has asked to remain anonymous, immediately alerted authorities and handed over what amounted to more than $120,000 in cash to Concord police.
            “First I thought it was one of those shows – what would you do? Someone would come out and ask me what would you do,” the officer said.
            Police were later able to locate the owner of the lost cash and returned the money to him.
            In a prepared statement, the sergeant said returning the money was simply “the right thing to do.”
            Link: http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2014/10/27/chp-sergeant-finds-120k-in-middle-of-concord-street-cash-returned-to-man-who-had-lost-life-savings/

            Hey, Of course this was Cali Highway Patrol. And not City COPS, what would be on vacation to Vegas. Maybe this Good Deed, will catch on with the rest of the Blue Shirts out there?

            • WWT
              I told you there are still some good ones out there. I’ll bet he is Old School.

              • I doubt the story will end well. Next thing the g-men will be doing a swat raid on that guys house saying that was drug money. Theyll destroy the house after a no knock and get the money. Warrant be damned, that money will disappear.

              • No doubt SGT. There is still a few good people out there. WWTI

              • Sarge, too bad the good ones still are forced to protect a corrupt system. I hope they side with the good people when the time comes.

              • SGT. how do we avg citizens determine who is good and who is bad.Not much difference in living and dead right.

                • Anyone “ASSUMING” authority over you with unconstitutional and unGodly regulations, corporate codes and/or public policies in the disguise of law, but only being the “color of law” are the bad guys……yours, mines and God’s enemy. They either willingly or unwillingly work for Satan.

                  “My people perish for a lack of knowledge”….means even if it is unwillingly or unknowingly, does not excuse it or get said person off the hook, so to speak. Ignorance in His eyes is NOT bliss.

              • That should negate the other CHP beating the shit out of(closed fist sitting on her) the black lady roaming around on the highway earlier this year.

            • One atta boy in a sea of every day oh shits….does not make him a good guy. It just confuses the weak minded with no true education of historical facts or knowledge of freedom and liberty.

          • You mean a Republican might not be the answer to our problems? Say it ain’t so!

          • Here is Mitch McConnel’s Code words

            “trade agreements” – Means Mitch wants to sell US Produced Oil to foreign Governments, which there is a Ban on all US Oil Production Exports, to keep our American Oil here in the Good Ol’ USA.

            Mitch’s “trade agreement” also is to Ban Food Labeling for GMO foods world wide. “Mitch is the Monsanto Corporation’s Bitch”

            Mitch’s “trade agreement” is also developing the North American Free Trade Zone destroying the rest of the American Manufacturing jobs base for Wall street Profits.

            “XL Pipeline.” – Mitch says Jobs, but what it does is provide temporary construction Jobs that will go away later, and this Oil is destined for China after it is refined in Texas solely for the profits of the Oil Companies, and the US Takes the risk for spills, and environmental destruction and undermines our own oil production profits. The XL Pipeline is a bad deal all the way around.

            “Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience and are left to the common refuge, which God hath provided for all men, against force and violence.” ~ John Locke, 2nd Treatise on Government.

            No matter who you voted for, it is not helping the 98% of Americans. Same Post Election BS, Different day.

            • Actually, I’ve never really noticed any fundamental differences between Reid and McConnell…they even look like they might be related by blood.

        • most of the conspiracy theorist will be proven wrong like they have always been including the religious fanatics

          • Be careful, bulldog, exposing the “religious fanatics” here does not go over well. Case in point; the thumbs down.
            When the great battle finally takes place and the two fundamentalist waring religions of the world, i.e the ones that preach “My God is better than your god” (those with their holier than thou brainwashed attitudes, spewing out the “sacred” scriptures), go toe to toe on the battlefield, may those “few” from each religion, sitting on the sidelines, refusing to participate in hatred and violence, may they be the ones that survive and rise up and lovingly embrace the “other” religion in unity and put to rest, once and for all, a world once dominated by self-serving, bloated egos.

            (The ruthlessness practiced by these human beings has disturbed the very fabric of nature and the vengeance of nature will be with great fury!)

            • Just Google “Christianity and Genocide” for your answer on religious fanatics.

          • Bulldog, sounds like you belong on an MSM site, so goodbye.

            • So you’re implying that this is your chatboard now bravehead? Here’s a thought, if you disagree with Bulldog, you DON’T have to read or reply to him. If your name isn’t Mac Slavo, then this is NOT your site to tell anybody who can stay or leave,period.

        • These cunts on TV are bitching about women making .77 cents for every dollar a man makes. HA! Everyone knows women make no sense. I wonder how much of his own money a man gets to keep in divorce court for every dollar a women gets. I tried to look for the statistic but no one seems to have it listed.

          Equal pay for equal work? Anyone who has had a female boss knows that their people managing skills suck ass. Equal work my ass.

          And no matter how much a cunt makes, men are still expected to pay for everything and put up with a cunt’s emotional horseshit even though 1 out of 5 marriages are sexless. And you cant figure out why marriage rates are at an all time low?

          These cunts say the friendzone is bullshit because men shouldn’t expect access to a womans body just by being friends with them, yet they certainly feel entitled to use all their male friends as a dumping ground for their emotional bullshit. I’m sick of listening to women bitch and complain about fucking EVERYTHING.

          Women are happiest when they are dominated.

          • Were you abused as a child at any point in your life Acid?

            • I had a 22 year old girlfriend with C cups, black hair, and a pretty face when I was 16. She seduced me away from the church to do kinky shit and we had threesomes with another girl and another guy. What fun! Ahh, glory days.

              • Mormon?

                • No.

              • Man, what is wrong with you? Something obviously is.

          • Women are happiest when the moon is purple and has Mickey Mouse’s face on it. Let’s face facts.

            • I’m happiest with concrete stuck to my pant legs and/or greasy car parts on my coffee table. I prefer that my sights are accurate, and my tools clean and well maintained.

              Any man of mine, will either get dirty right along with me, or shut up and get the hell out of my way.

              The last word in MY house, will ALWAYS be MINE.

              Dominate That…

          • Acid. Do you get for stats from the strip club subcontractors? Women can make 5 times what a man can at a strip club. So maybe these women bitchin need to find a better paying career. Successful people do the jobs what unsuccessful people refuse to do. Dr Phil.

            • WWTI, they have affirmative action to help them. That’s all they need.

          • There is a lot of truth there, whether people like the wording and name calling or not.

            I wonder, though, how long that post would be if someone took the time to write it in Politically Correct language?

            Any takers?

            • I’m too busy trying to make fried ice.

              I hear tell that’s what they want.

          • @Acid Etch: Do you eat out of that DIRTY MOUTH? You take caare, CC

          • Acid, you make one valid point in your first sentence. That is a feminist lie. There are women who get the same pay as men and there’s the other group of women who make MORE MONEY THAN MEN JUST BECAUSE OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION.

            • Gee…I make more money in my company than men, because of my hard work, dedication, and my ability to grow sales every year for the past five years. Not easy to do it today’s economy. I don’t bitch because my starting salary was lower. I exceeded expectations, and surrounded myself with excellent employees. I was rewarded with terrific raises and bonuses. Bunch of Damn whiners around here.

              • When my ex boyfriend was pushing a pencil for $8.50 an hour, I was swinging a hammer for $21.11 an hour.

                Guess who the head of THAT household was.

          • A E once again at the heavy caliber verbage but nailing it never the less. Touch of anger there to work on young man, but i think you are the right path….just practice meditation. God will let you in if you work for it.

        • Must admit I am a bit surprised the boat is still floating. I have been thinking though ….. now that our “money” is no longer backed by anything other than blind faith maybe the printing can go on for a hell of a lot longer?

          I mean, if money is not redeemable for anything other than more money what choice do we have? Money is just a convenient medium of exchange and everyone has been conditioned to accepting it with that same blind faith, right? And it will only be “worth” anything while that faith is unshaken.

          About the only thing that will shake that faith in hyper inflation, the runaway kind that saw the collapse of Germany and the crackpot African/South American nations. Is that where we are headed? If so, the best defence is tangibles – from precious metals to machinery to guns and ammo to all sorts of stuff.

          I have some 1oz gold bars but they are more for bribing my way out of any possible sticky spot and I am not buying any more. What I am getting is more solar panels, charge controllers, tools, heirloom seeds, fencing materials.

          I have no faith in the financial system staying afloat but I could be wrong, maybe “they” can keep printing money and keep the whole mess afloat – as long as it is an amount the system can absorb rather than a massive dump that will overwhelm it.

          Who knows, like nearly everyone here I am just guessing and I freely admit I don’t know for sure when/what/how or even if “it” will implode. I am getting fidgety though and my preps do give me peace of mind and I do sleep soundly.

          By the way Fanny Mae (or was it Freddy Mac?) announced a $3.9 billion profit for 3rd Q. Go figure?


      2. All the Banks here and abroad are insolvent.

        Yes, “cash is king” but what good is keeping a lot of cash stashed as it continues to be devalued?

        The answer: store (hide) cash for 6 months of monthly expenses; convert all retirement accounts into silver IRAs (investment bullion or the American Eagle Silver Dollar) and be sure to hide that carefully; lastly, use what cash you have that is discretionary to fortify your preps.

        Don’t forget to get right with God either every morning or every evening.

        – the Lone Ranger

        • May the Holy Trinity have mercy on us all.

          • John Q P. Don’t bless me with that BS Voodoo.

            • WWTI,
              You got that right. Blessing you is a waste of time.

            • Be not deceived, God is not mocked.

              Galatians 6:7

          • Aren’t you talking about a JOOOOOOOO! Interesting that you forgot to foam at the mouth that time.

        • America is at a “Crossroads” of sorts.

          The votes “against” the continued thievery by the politicians and the proliferation of an evil liberal agenda has “paused”, that agenda, momentarily. Unknowingly, most Americans voted “not”, against liberalism, but more for a possible change in the right direction, “of the economy”, than any other reason.

          Hence, more about being able to put more $$ into their pockets, instead of a turning away from evil liberalism; a sort of selfishness of humans, shown by the polls and their votes for conservatives. As two Christians, we (wife and I) voted “against” liberalist and their predominate agenda of promotion of abortion and gaymorrah. However; we as Americans should use this opportunity to stay on top of the conservative politicians to do the “will” of the “good” people and root out liberalism and the proliferation of abortion and gaymorrah. At least it would be a starting point.

          Will it happen? Very doubtful as there are too few of us and too many of them; but, God does allow room for a return to His laws, commandments, and statutes. Thus causing a halt to all the tribulation and judgment that has been prophesied, to be forthcoming, upon a rebellious nation/world. It must start with a national and majority, change of heart and a humble repentance. Then a return to Godly/moral values and a turn away from political correctness and self-indulgence.

          To defeat an enemy, one must become educated as to the, who and why, the largest threat is. It is very simple. The enemy is satanic but operates not only in the spiritual realm but has occupied and has it’s scaly tentacles within every form of government/political, financial, educational, and religious organizations of the world. It is none other than the corrupt Jewry circle of “behind the scenes” operatives within all these four forms of the dynasties. They are demonic in nature from their very bloodlines that go all the way back to the “original” sin, committed in the Garden of Eden between Eve and the Serpent/Satan by that sexual act, which led to Cain and his offspring known as Kenites and mixed throughout Hebrew/Israelite/Canaanite/etc, races of early people. They later bred into many of the Caucasian bloodlines thru history. An identifying marker is their supreme Jewish leadership positions and self-proclaimed “chosen” dominance in positions of power and influence. They operate within many secret societies such as Freemasonry and Skull & Bones Societies. Some are not “practicing” religious Jews.

          There are small segments of Jewish groups that believe in Jesus Christ that have not been bred within those demonic circles, but have carried a pure bloodline from the tribe of Judah, and therefore do not carry the “demonic/vampiric/DNA/bloodlines”. They are not involved in the destructive forces that are prevalent within the circles of USA. Thus we must be careful in “blanket” identifying all Jews as evil, or we may be in danger of judgments/cursings, from God.

          What can we do to conquer this evil demonic empire that is so prevalent and powerful?
          There is only one way. That is to honor and obey the only Force that is more powerful than the satanic forces. The faithfulness and love given back to our Saviour and Lord Jesus Christ, and His Father, our Heavenly Father/YHWH/Yahwee/El Shaddai/Elohim, The Almighty. It is available now and it is our only way for salvation from eternal damnation, and the defeat of the satanic jewry forces.

          If people fail to take their God given rights and Country, back from the evil,liberal,NWO crowd, in the early days of 2015, and begin to fully change, there will be no turning back the hands of time and the judgment will start to HitTheFan, by fall of 2015, if not before.

          Therefore, I say this election didn’t “change”, anything, “yet”; but, it is just a pause in a brief period of time, that “can” start a footstep in a different, rightful, direction.

          It will be up to the people as a majority. If America is to be spiritually protected, there must be a new path and direction. The time is now or never.

          • DNA is not the issue. Belief and behavior are the problem and, of course, beliefs and behaviors run in families and dynasties.

            We are sliding down a steep precipice into Hell on earth.

            Keep your lamps trimmed and burning.

          • Well I don’t believe the Yahveh of the Judean priesthood was the same as the God of the Israelites, but rather Satan (which is precisely what Christ told us speaking of the Pharisees), I must agree in my heart with what you say. My Jewish relatives are good people, just misdirected like many Christians to support the evil of their elders that goes back to Babylon. We can only defeat a seemingly overwhelming enemy with spiritual armor. A truly Christian warrior knows no fear, since giving his life for his fellow man is the ultimate act of Christian love.

            • All you religious Freaks have F-ups the world really good. Thanks a lot.

              • The basic principles are correct, it’s sort of like empirically studied “social laws of physics”. 7000 years of social experimentation produced something that works in the real world.

                The magical type conclusions… hmm. Not so much.

                It is true that most people in power are white or Arabic males. Yeah? About 0.01% of white and Arabic males. Therefore ALL white and Arabic males are evil oppressors? I don’t think so, son. Sloppy.

                • Indeed their time in Egypt and Babylon affected themeven to their prayer style, “davening.” While Jews’ ritualistic simulated sex with the “goddess” (actually a demon) Shekinah by “davening” is repulsive in itself, the primary problem is Judaism’s worship of false gods, a judgment that God made against them repeatedly. Far from the rabbis’ cover story that Judaism is monotheistic, Judaism is a pagan polytheistic creed complete with reincarnation (gilgul neshamot, gilgul neshamah) and black magic.

                  Recall that Egyptian and Babylonian black magic spawned idolatry of the Golden Calf, even to the Israelites worshipping, fornicating with, and sacrificing their children to the demon Moloch (Leviticus 20:3-5, 3 Kings 11:5-33, et al.). No less than in the days of the Israelites (1 Kings 8:8; Malachias 2:8-12), contemporary Judaism retains worship of pagan “strange gods”: Birkat ha-Hammah sun worship (persists even though Ezechiel 8:16-17 specifically damns it as an abomination in the eyes of God), moon worship (kiddish levanah), death curses (pulse d’nura), even the rabbis’ magic skulls:

                  “There are two kinds of necromancy: the one where the dead is raised by naming him, the other where he is invoked by means of a skull.” —The Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Sanhedrin 65b

          • “Hence, more about being able to put more $$ into their pockets…a sort of selfishness of humans, shown by the polls and their votes for conservatives.”

            It’s interesting that a similar concept is supported, to justify taking from working Americans, to give to the FSA. We’re all being “selfish” for wanting to keep what we worked for, when others need so much. BS.

            As far as “rooting out” moral issues, I WANT THE GOVERNMENT AS FAR AWAY FROM MY MORAL CHOICES AS IT CAN GET.

            It was NEVER the job of the govt to dole out “morality.”

            It is also not MY business to decide what morality the neighbor should have, nor is mine, any of his business.

            There are some issues that only God’s LAW should dictate…not the laws of MEN.

        • Good point LR… my version is less complex …. Remove the Tribal Banksters from the scene and Harmony will gradually comes back to the financial markets. And my removing I mean a TOTAL ELIMINATION.

          • There’s so much evil in these comments tonight. It’s really sad – I’m not even going to read any more.

            • Yes Lisa, it’s a sad state of affairs that religious fanatics just can’t understand that there will always be thoughtful, intelligent adults who disagree with them. Their response is always the same, if you don’t listen to ME and MY God, you’re doomed to eternal damnation. Jesus, they’re no different than the Spanish Inquistion or the popes who declared it to be heresy when it was proven as a fact that the earth revolved around the sun, not vice versa.

        • I know that I have said this before, but it bears repeating until the banksters and all their accomplices are apprehended, prosecuted, and punished and all their centuries of loot repatriated.

          In real analysis money is a proxy for the hours of our lives, hours that once spent can never be returned.

          When they loot our money, they are stealing hours of our lives, killing us a few hours at a time.

          Economic crimes against humanity must be seen as capital crimes.

          Prosecute the guilty. Leave the innocent alone.

          • AMEN JQP as always and with all of your posts. I don’t think you are very popular in TelAviv or NY.

            • Thank you, my friend.

              This is part of my thinking—if you take the last minute or hour of someone’s life it is murder, so what’s OK about stealing minutes, hours, or years from the middle of someone’s life? Nothing!

              Like genocide and war crimes, economic crimes against humanity are CAPITAL crimes.

        • To clarify: hold your silver and gold. Any investments such as Bullion IRA’s and Bullion ETF’s can disappear at the click of a mouse. Regarding gold, remember that the Bolshevik Roosevelt served the bankers well, and made the serf’s holding of gold illegal. My grandfather had his safety deposit box looted at his local bank. Gold is for long-term investment, best buried. If we succeed in sending the bankers packing to Khazaria, than it will be once again monetized.

          • You are 100% right on, Mongo. Buying AG/AU (and don’t forget platinum and palladium) right now while price is being suppressed is critical. And, dear readers, DO NOT buy paper gold (GLD, SLV). The Central Canada Fund and some of Sprotts Canadian funds DO hold physical, and goldmoney.com also allows you to hold ALLOCATED physical, so those are option. Bank safety deposit boxes are also vulnerable to court orders, confiscation, etc.

            If you aren’t buying silver (AG, right now selling at below price to produce) or gold (AU) right now, you are making a mistake. Will it go lower? Maybe. Let me know if you find out how to time purchases to the exact penny low. Also, platinum – mostly South African (and Russian) produced. Do you really think the socialist disaster in the RSA is going to work out ok?

          • Mongo Pissed;
            I have little choice but to hold my metals considering what I paid for them. Still I have a few years left and am not too worried.

        • brandon has been trying to awaken the sheeple for a LOOO
          NG time, but unfortunately, america(ns) is too damn dumbed-down to understand what he writes. an idiot, or POSSIBLY even a CONGRESSMAN knows that we are DOOMED. but trying to educate the dumb-masses is a fruitless endeavor, because after reading that article, i can tell you that 95% of them couldn’t read past the first paragraph!….too many big words for the american public. i KNOW, because i have been trying to get people to read this type of thing for YEARS, and they just WON’T….just take facebook for example……talk about puppies, or dancing with stars, or catchy sayings about life, and you’ll have dozens of comments and “likes”….but talk politics or what’s happening in(or, TO) the world, and you get CRICKETS chirping….NOTHING! we truly ARE doomed.

          • i am with you on that assessment, bcod.

            Brandon says he feels like he is just being repetitive with this piece, but i find it very informative from the world financial and economic standpoints. Some good info for investors.

            Like it, or not, and believe it or not, our economy and financial markets are all hinged together with the major markets and economies of the world. Brandon gives some updated information here that does lean us towards a coming instability and eventual collapse.

            Every man woman and child and most domesticated animals will be affected in some form when the SHTF and fuel prices, along with electric costs, soar. Many will lose their investments. Some will lose their homes. However some will not, because as i have no investments in the markets or banks and am virtually debt free, except for property taxes and auto insurance.

            The article above, by passin with the wind, does give a good picture of what is happening and what must be done on a personal level to possibly ward off the coming events, as much as possible, from our families.

            Prep and pray, people.

            • I will also say if you have the money now, go get that operation youve been putting off and dental work done ASAP. Once it crashes no infrastructure is safe. You may be trading a couple of chickens to get a cavity filled. And the dentist may be using a hand drill with no novicaine. Remember we may be knocked back into the 1850’s circa if the grid is down.

            • But the HUGE mistake most folks make is that NO hyper-inflation event can ever occure, UNLESS…Reg Avg masses of the population HAS the Cash to Spend first.

              When like NOW most people has less to spend and many barley stay afloat from week to week, NO such hyper event can happen…Recall photos of actual germans pushing wheel barrows FILLED with Tons of Cash to buy a single loaf bread….Well Who do YOU know that Has that much spare cash on hand NOW today incase they had to use a wheel barrow to transport cash to store for loaf of bread?

              None right…So just Where will such massive huge cash amounts Come from to cause a hyper inflation event?

              The TRUE likly problem if usa avg reg folks remian as broke and as poor as so many today are will be a DEFLATIONAIRY event…Where with so little to spend cash wise, nobody can buy anything..Which will cause various store goods to LOWER prices to entice whoever does still have a bit of spare cash to enter store and buy stuff….What happened in great depression era?

              99% of folks had ZERO cash or very Close to zero cash right…Except that the remaining 1% Had Mucho casho to spend freely right…What did That 1% then Buy mostly?

              The Farms, properties, Cars, and whatever else those of the 99% class had left to sell for pennies on the dollar actual value right…That sure looks alot closer to Todays potential situations does it not..

              So assumeing Todays economic problems worsen gradually or even fast rate…Why would todays america experience hyper event when every possible situation will look same as 1930 great depression era again?..Thats correct..If todays usa ends up same or close to same as GD era was for our grandpas…NO hyper inflation event is possible.

              And whoever Has spare cash…Will see Cash IS KING all over again like 1930 was…Deflation is not enough Cash for number of folks right…What do You see in usa NOW today? Not enough Cash for most folks right…

              I do NOT mean banks do not Have enough cash to Loan out..Of course banks has it to loan since they print it as needed…But Do People today have that cash and spare xtra cash to spend…NO….Most barely get by now and if it worsens which Is very likly as time passes. 1930 depression with most folks has zero cash and need to sell all they sill own is probobal and very likly.

              Want a nice sports car? Top Tier 4X4 truck that now costs $50-60 Grand cash?…Wait til That guys job goes bye bye to overseas 3rd world nations and see how LOW his price is to try and sell that nice costly truck when 1% has the cash to buy his truck and daily he has to Lower its price since hes sinking fast and bills is due in Two days!

              He will have zero choice but to take whatever hes offered…Exactly like happened before to our grand parents back in 1930 great depression era…

              Why these money experts and most others always Fail to see this reality is baffeling, and most who fail to see this fact furiously fight against it being true…Why is that so? I wish I knew…Stuborn?…They “Think” it so ergo it Must be true or why would their mind think it up?…I have no idea as to why but they sure do act that way…

              Maybe it is due to so many online writers at so Many websites spew Hyper inflation event with german photos to act as “Proof”…ALL them photos prove is that Yes hyper inflation Did occure in Germany at one time…That aint any proof at all it is going to repeat Here though..But it sure fools lots and lots of folks eh!…Even fools Most so called expert writers of such articles everywheres lately…DEFLATION of NOT enough CASH is the name of the game…So if you has some Now and can save it incase for later…You too can then buy very cool stuff dirt cheep when it happens. Farms-Homes-acres property!-Corvette Z-06!!!!!…Almost NEW Harley Hog bikes!!!!

              Even out of work actress with very Large Bra size!! ha ha ha! just Joking!…Make them women Pay for You is better plan eh!

              oh and also one More issue..Say it happens this way and some guy is selling his nice truck or harley or 20 acres land…And TWO buyers shows up at same time..One buyer has Cash us dollars enough to buy it, that Other buyer guy has Gold OZ’s also worth enough to buy it…AND say seller guys HOUSE Payment is past due, today in his Final pay rent day or else Lose home and mortgage and ruin his credit fico score…Which guy is he going to sell it to?

              The one with us dollars Cash is who buys it…That seller guy aint going to waste time figureing out how or where to potentially sell the gold oz’s and maybe take a Hit on value when gold buyers tells him he loses 3% on entire gold value when RENTS due NOW or else..Hes going to demand cold hard CASH usa dollars..The same us dollars Gold and silver sellers tells You will soon be worthless, yet for some reason they sell their gold or silver for same type soon worthless Dollars!..Ironic it seems.

              Not really though when you figure gold seller guy needs us dollars to Pay for His stuff or rent same as truck seller guy does right…Because unless things drastically switch gears…All Mortgages and utilitiy Bills etc etc etc always demand us dollars as Payment still and will do so for quite some time yet to go.

              Maybe them gold seller guys aint being exactly 100% honest? When they tell You dollars soon be worthless.

              Somebodys not being 100% honest!…Usually it is the sellers and Not the simple buyer whos not honest.

              so quit the mass hysteria worry over a hyper inflation event unless and untill you actually see the fed govnt and/Or us banks begins to Pass out BIG cash amounts TO avg regular citizens everywheres at same time…THEN we may see a hyper inflation event Yes..NOT untill that happens though for where else can so many folks get such huge amounts cash at same time frame..Nowheres I know of.

          • Maybe if we got Kim Kardoooshian, Lady Kaka, or Smily Cysleaze to comment, that would help, BCD?

            • Test:

              Most people would swallow their comments as truth….

              Crazy world, turned upside down….

            • Don’t worry, their equivalnet in durango kidd will be along soon to try and disredit Brandon’s information and facts with statist mind control bullshit.

        • Lone Ranger you made sense right up to that last part of being a slave to your savor BS. Nobody is going to save you but you, and you can make it right with your self, first. You don’t need anybody’s approval to be righteous.

          • It’s too bad you got abused by false religion in younger years, who would have thought it? But it happens.

            All 7.5 billion of us are sinners, so all 7.5 billion of us are in need of forgiveness.

            As far as approval, I strive to be a just person.

            By the way what you think of me is none of my business!

            – the Lone Ranger

      3. Make no mistake about it…big CHANGE is coming. It’s just not the change you were hoping for, or expected.
        Prepare accordingly.

        • Maybe yes, maybe no. That all depends on how people like readers at SHTFPlan respond. Our mandate is 100% non-violent; rather we need to aggressively and creatively **educate and inform** the sleeping NFL/DWTS sheeple. How? That is the question we had better answer, and very soon. Personally, I am a Republican precinct committeeman. They are begging for them and these are the foot soldiers who have upward impact on who gets elected. The effect, it is true, is tiny. But what if there were thousands of SHTFPlan types who spend as much time as a precinct committeeman, impacting what goes on there, as the time they spend kvetching on great sites like this (we SHOULD be here, just ALSO get out involved in other places)

          It is TRUE, we may lose this battle. There have been similar very dark times in history, such as the days before the Battle of Britain, or the days before the Battle of Midway. Or go back further: Think of those monks at Skellig Michael, off the coast of Ireland, as the rest of the West slid into the Dark Ages.

          I leave you to ponder this, mes ami, from Churchill: “If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not so costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival.  There may be a worse case.  You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”

          • mes amis. Sorry, I can’t type.

            • My keyboard can’t spell, either.

            • Very good!

            • Ok you ignorant, stupid, vile, lying leftist shills trolling this site. Thumbs down for spelling correction?????

              Really? You leftist trolls are even more ignorant than I thought possible.

              • Grrr goons.

              • TEST,

                Very inspiring post above!

                Try not to let the trolls upset you. For whatever reason, the number of trolls has increased here lately.

                Just keep on keeping on!

              • Hey, it’s all they’ve got, man.

          • I agree. “It’s up to us”

            It’s the 21st C, no excuses.

        • Yeah hear the Hope and Change jingling in your pocket? After you have been fleeced of everything else.

          • Yep here we go. US Govt claims a big Trojan Horse Virus infecting massive amounts of critical infrastructure computers. Of course Blaming Russia. Told ya the Feds are going to crash the grid cause they are bankrupt and would rather blame it on a grid down than admit their ineptness and criminal activity looting our country of treasure.

        • Politics are hilarrious. The Speaker Smoker Drunk John Boener tells Obama shouldn’t play with matches by going it alone with Executive Orders. Boener knows his BAL blood alcohol level blew up a room when he struck up a match to light his ciggy.

          • That one idiot red thumb troll. F-You!!

      4. Job Cuts Surge 68%, Most In 3 Years; Worst October Since 2009

        “Maybe this explains the election results? Challenger reports US companies laid off over 51,000 people in October, the most since May (and 2nd most since Feb 2013).

        This is a 68% surge MoM (and 11.9% rise YoY) – the biggest monthly rise since September 2011. Retail, Computer, and Pharma industries saw the biggest layoffs.

        Hiring also collapsed from the record 567,705 exuberance in September to just 147,935 in October. This was the worst October for layoffs since 2009.”


        • thanks for reminding me to warn SHTF peeps to not buy giftcards this christmas! i have expected LOTS of retailers to go out of business a week after chritsmas for 5 YEARS now…finally last year we had a FEW, but mass bankrupcy is coming to the retail sector…and a giftcard is like a CHECK with an expiration date, that you CAN’T CASH….don’t get stuck with them when it all goes DOWN….if you GET them as presents, SPEND them FAST!

          • Businesses are going belly up and shutting the doors.

            We have had two businesses that have been operating for almost thirty five years each, close in the last couple months.

            Reason…. too much overhead costs and the ever mounting federal and state requirements to operate. One, a restaraunt in our county of 70k that has been a provider of homestyle meals for decades, and the other a furniture and home decor chain of stores in the area of surrounding counties.
            Nobody wanted to buy into businesses that would never pay off for them, so they just closed.

            Nationwide, this happens everyday. The bigger wealthier businesses out compete and the smaller family owned businesses get rooted out, due to the burdens of paying the local,state, and federal governments intrusions and thievery.

            A vicious cycle of greed and corruption that is designed to crush the economic stability of America.

            • O 812
              I don’t think you will see a whole sale closing until after Christmas, but by 01/01/15 you will see tons of them.

              I’m hoping I’m wrong, but with the min wag going up, Obullshit care kicking in.

              I talked to a friend of mine that told me that she has two options lay off or closing the door, and right now its close the door. Right now it is 60% to 40% to close the door.

              Right now I have looked down the streets of the three towns I live near all I see is Bars, Banks, and Restaurants. only maybe four or five Mom and Pop stores left in all three towns.

          • Good advice.

          • BCOD,
            We give bags of meat to our family for Christmas because we do our butchering in December and all the kids are grown with families now, they love it! Way better than a piece of plastic!

        • BUT…the JOOO owned media is saying all is good.

          • Anon, Yeah JFK Warned us about the FED Loan Sharks too, and created EO-11110 on June 4th 1964. But the Tribe had him killed a few Mths to protect their Worthless Fiat scam. Now the US is a Debt Slave to fight their Religious Wars.

            • Indeed correct WWT.

            • wwti;
              JFK assassinated 11/23/63.

      5. Our Founding Fathers warned us about private banks issuing our money. We were too dumb to listen.

      6. COULD HAPPEN! COULD HAPPEN! That should be the name of this website!

        • You are, apparently, one of those victims of normalcy bias. You are very right, and will continue to be right… until you are very wrong. And then it will be too late.

          Yes, there is a bias towards bad news and negative things happening here. But readers here are smart enough to consider the merits of each argument, and weigh that against realistic probabilities. E.g., Y2K. I did prepare for that. It turned out to be a bit of a bust, but I have no problems with preparing. I am in tech, and while the embedded chips did not go out (THAT would have caused a real disaster) there WERE massive issues that were glossed over, or hidden. Also, the fact that there was MASSIVE, massive remediation solved the worst of it. But the truth is, some of our spy satellites looking at the Russians DID go out; trains stopped in a few countries; teachers didn’t get paid in Ontario for quite some time; a SAP installation blew up at a major company on PA. (might have been Hersheys, I can’t remember). The truth is, a lot of things examined here won’t happen. But when it does – as in the 1929 depression – better to have been a year early than a day too late.

          The other truth is that the Jews in Germany kept thinking “It won’t get worse” – until it did, and they couldn’t get out.

          Finally, according to Dr. Lawrence Kotlikoff, U. of Boston, totaling ALL unfunded liabilities, we now owe $222 TRILLION, if you count everything. Exactly HOW do you think that will be paid off, mon ami??? And you have only three choices, assuming there is no 10% GDP growth (which there won’t be under socialism): print money, cut services, or raise taxes (which kills further growth). You can combine the above, but still, they will have to – with this amount of debt – default one direction or another. Also recall the rule of 72. That means if you have 7% inflation, you will halve your debt in just under 10 years. Or at 10% inflation, just under 7 years… or 72% inflation, in one year. So, expect them to lie about inflation, once it gets underway, using “chained CPI,” etc.

          As the disgusting, vile John Maynard Keynes – whose ignorant philosophy got us into this mess – said about inflation: ““By this means the government may secretly and unobserved, confiscate the wealth of the people, and not one man in a million will detect the theft.”
          ― John Maynard Keynes, The Economic Consequences of the Peace Of course the DWTS/NFL watching leftist sheeple will have no idea what happened when THAT hits.

          • Keynes: In the long run, we’re all dead.”

            BTW, did you know that Keynes was a homosexual?

        • No one has a crystal ball. We deal here with probabilities. When you wake up jobless, your bank account seized, and riots at the local grocers, you might wish you had considered those probabilities. Gold and Silver are being actively suppressed, a good indication of reaction to the sinking perception of the dollar.

      7. I guess that is the reason my software at work crashed…
        Damn, I hate computers sometimes…

        • Life is all about perspective. The sinking of the Titanic was a miracle to the lobsters in the ship’s kitchen.

          • Best post of the week. THAT gave me a smile!!!! Nice work

        • eppe, Wanna know why your software crashed funny man? lol Seriously, really got to cut back on opening any spam email links. Supposed to be a big Trojan Virus floating out there that the US Government says will crash a lot of US infrastructure computer systems. Of course they are blaming in Russia already. I think they are just laying the groundwork and propaganda to crash it them selves. Just don’t open the “Hot Naked Russian Women” link. forewarned lol

      8. Gold Silver and farmland are your only protection against Banksters who can print Fiat at will.
        If they force the price visa vie paper gold, try to buy some more. Be patient ,the clouds can not cover the sun forever.

        • Any gold or silver that you buy in any way such that the Feds know about it, (and that’s everything but buying for cash from individuals), will be confiscated when TSHTF. FDR did it, and it will happen again.

      9. Maybe if we all emailed the constitution to each other, the NSA will finally read it.

        • Genetically indoctrinated and modified zombie liberals can’t understand plain English.

        • ridiculous – Wanna really fool the NSA? Send the US Constitution “encrypted” and labeled “TOP Secret.” And highlight the 1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th Amendment within it.

        • Wish I could’ve given you a hundred thumbs up for that one!

      10. The real GDP has actually increased over the past quarter slightly, although I do agree our economy sucks. But hey we just gained the majority as republicans so that’s a little bit of good news.

        • it increased because obamacare ADDS to GDP! what a wacked-out world we live in!

        • Grant…please say that again??????

        • How are the rpubs going to help us again?

          Fast track TTIP?

          Time for a serious third way.

          The trend will be clear from 2016 on.

      11. “Socialism (lit. “gouvernement” in French) is the great fiction, whereby everybody endeavours to live off of everbody else.”
        – Frederic Bastiat, 1801-1850

        And yes, dear reader, you are perfectly correct. Leftists STILL have no idea why this has NEVER work, CAN never work and WILL never work. But of course, they are so smart – in contrast to us poor, unwashed masses here in flyover country – I’m “sure” they’ll get it right next time. Y’know… if only we can elect Hitlery and her flying monkeys next, to implement and continue the current fascism under Obungler, I’m sure it will all work out just fine… right????

        • Thumbs down means “Yes, I am an ignorant socialist living in mommy’s basement that actually DOES think I can live off of everyone else. Quod erat demonstrandum.

          PS: You are late to your “Yes we can/Yes we have no bananas” chant-in

          PPS: Mommy left your EBT/food stamp card on your night stand. For when you get up at noon

      12. The roaring 20’s is coming to an end. The dust bowl is coming to the bread basket of Californication. Economic collapse for the sins of greed are apon us again once again. History Repeats itself because we do not wish to listen nor remember.

      13. And don’t forget about another World War…

      14. According To Forbes,

        “In the US, the wealthiest one percent captured 95 percent of post-financial crisis growth since 2009, while the bottom 90 percent became poorer.”

        It’s clear that the elite are hoarding their cash. The unwritten rule for a successful economy is for all those that win, a significant percentage should be put back into the economy in the form of investment. However, this does not seem to be the case.

        So what are we to do about the hoarding?

        Do we all write business plans and solicit them for investment capital such that we the people can get the money really flowing through the economy. I would think that would satisfy their (the wealthy’s) incessant hunger for control because god knows, if they give you a dime, they’ll be in every aspect of your business.

        Or, do we physically take their cash in the name of oppression? I can’t even fathom how that would occur though. They own law enforcement, the legal system, and the military; after all, they, the wealthy, do pay all the income taxes.

        Whatever the case, observances are becoming old news, and thus it might be time for legitimate action.

        • Learjet leftists, Hollywierd rich hypocrites and limousine liberals of the world, unite!

        • yea, it’s kind of a catch 22. There is no demand because people are broke and up to the gills in debt with no raises in 5 years.

          With no demand there is no incentive to put capital into expanding production and factories.

          This is what is known as a deflationary collapse…where is Mr. Yellen with them helicopters?

          • Been hovering over the leftist banksters and Obama cronies for the past few years

      15. My advice for today…go buy some pm


      16. I thought it all would have crashed by now. I have done what I could to prepare for it. I have moved everything in my 401k to the safest plan possible and removed every dime they would allow. The government has there bases covered there as well. I tried to roll it over into an I.R.A. so I could buy silver. The rules don’t allow that with my 401K. I have decided to take the biggest loan the plan will allow. This could benefit or hurt me. I may buy silver with it. That would be a gamble. If I just stuck it into the safe at least I would be able to just pay it back or use the money as needed.
        I am going to buy a few things for preps. A hand pump for the well, some more ammo, and some more long term food storage.
        I have been on the sidelines since before Obummer got elected last time. I could say that I lost money by not staying in the stock I was in. If it crashes did I lose money or did I minimize my losses.
        Interesting times we are in my friends.
        Hopefully it does not all fall apart now. I fear that is just wishful thinking on my part.

        • Mike, check out a self-directed IRA. You can invest in massive range of things there. I am using Integrity Bank and Trust in Colorado Springs, and found them good.

          Also, opening a bank account overseas is an issue, but buying land is not, and not reportable. You could, eg., own land in Canada – your money is out of the USD (altho correlated via the CAD), NOT reportable, and you are into hard assets. I have used http://www.dignam.com – they sell rural Canadian properties, and have been around 100 years (I am not associated with them, but bought land from them). If you do look to Canada, there is a housing bubble there thru most of the country, except the Maritimes. I bought in Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, and was very pleased with my purchase (I have ZERO association with them, BTW, other than being a former customer). Newfoundland is too hard to get to, PEI is completely socialist and anti-business, but New Brunswick and Nova Scotia are good bets. Check out http://www.thepoog.com for a good, conservative Canadian site, or of course the always reliable Canada Free Press (excellent site)

          Hope this helps. Bonne chance (good luck)!

          • I get it. There is some mentally ill, ignorant socialist in mommy’s basement who, even if I post “the sky is blue” will give a thumbs down.

            Get help. You seriously need it. And get a clue while you are at it. You might find one on eBay. Or laying discarded on the floor at one of your “Yes we can/Yes we have no bananas” meetings.

            Oh, and please prove my point about your mental midgetness by clicking thumbs down here _________ Thanks so much!

          • Test

            Thank you again. It is people like you that make me come to this site. Any person who would red thumb a post that was attempting to help others is a fool. The red thumbers should post why they gave a red thumb to your post.
            Thanks for being helpful my friend and may god bless you and yours.

        • I did almost the same thing with my 401k. I figure by having 50% loaned to myself I have sheltered at least that much from the drop that’s coming. I used it to invest in my farm and consider tangibles a great hedge against inflation. YMMV.

        • Mike, My wife and I struggle with what you said about your 401k and if your to young there not much other then prepping the best we can. We are both 38 and still gamble in the market but I also have gold, silver and cash stashed along with the other prepps. Kinda not putting all our eggs in the same basket type thing. If things don’t go to hell we will be good. If they do we still have what we hold in our hands. It’s all a big gamble if you take your money out and you have your employer matching or putting in you might loose if you buy silver and it tanks and we continue for another 20 to 30 years of a bull shit market then you make some money. I will get some red on this but I think of it all as a prepp and make sure I’m hitting all angles

          • You are spot on, DC. Wisely put, very good advice. Yes, there is a “risk” – if you can call it that – that things won’t collapse for a while, so diversification is wise.

          • That is excellent DC. The rules of my 401K won’t allow me to roll it all over. My employer matches 50 percent of the six percent from my paycheck.
            If I try to roll it over they treat it as a withdrawal that will not have a penalty if I put it in an IRA. Problem is you can only withdraw so much unless it is a hardship withdrawal. With the hardship withdrawal they tell you what it must be applied too like medical expenses.
            So even with what I have done I still have about 50 percent of my 401K left. It is a gamble. Regarding precious metals I think of them as a long term prep. If the system does not crash in my life time it will in my children’s and they will have them.
            Thank you for the advice.
            Great post.

        • Mike
          Flojac has a new hand pump that is excellent. You can slide it down alongside the submersible pump. Made well-works great. And affordable bout 300. You can get it up to 150′ in length

          • I designed & built a pump from $75 worth of PCV pipe. It has a 9 inch stroke and five strokes delivers a quart of water. It doesn’t actually pump its more of a water ram and will force water from a great dept with very little effort. it has two check valves and the foot valve allows water to enter a chamber and a piston forced on the downward stroke by a sucker rod forces the water upward past a second check valve. I got my idea from a old Meyers windmill pump.

            • OLD Guy. You will be the Go To Man in SHTF for Water. Buy up more piping to build dozens of pumps.

          • Dr e

            Thanks. I have researched it and that is what I am going to get.

        • Mike in VA. Take all of your money out and you don’t have to worry about paying the 10% taxes, as the Government will be dissolved before next April 15th Tax Day hopefully. Plus if food goes up 10% or more just in inflation you are already ahead.

          And that goes for any money you have in any fund of savings. You need to be at least making 10% annually on that money or you are losing money just in inflation costs of living.

          Today, Food is a great inflation hedge. Go buy 1000 Cans of Salmon that is good for 4 to 6 years. You can eat for years at today’s prices.

          • I would suggest Mediterranean seafood. Cento and such.

            Why? Fukushima.

            The good news?

            They removed some rods recently.

      17. The fascists whom organized the EU and who took over the US government
        are now in a big pickle. Many other countries have prepared for a collapse
        of the US dollar behind the fascist elitists’ backs. Many of those nations
        have already worked out plans to bypass the petro-dollar, are joining Russia,
        China and the other BRICS nations in trade agreements. The world now knows
        who the fascists are and in the end, most nations are NOT willing to go along
        with this “New World Order” agenda (nor global SDRs) because they now realize
        their countries are at stake of collapsing if they do so.

        Be well prepared America, we are going to hit third world status!

        Also, very interesting fact about Isreal that the US govt is covering up!





        • Yes… basically the EU is almost as if Hitler and his National Socialists had won. Seriously, there is very little difference – go google “Nazi political planks” and you will see what they adopted in Munich, Feb. 1920 is EXACTLY what a Nancy Pelosi or Dirty Harry Reid would have in their own playbook. Almost exactly

        • I’m hoping Obama’s secret letters to Iran, fighting ISIS, is also giving Iran to the Green Light to wipe the Cockroach parasites off the map for good.

        • Excellent, I like that edgdy Jim Willie.

          Hell of a guy.

          And he takes time out to teach the younger folks.


          Nov 5th: mixed effects of USFed QE policy which stimulates the financial sector but depresses the economy and business sector… the lies behind the supposed end to QE bond purchases, which follow the possible USGovt debt default (why else is debt limit not relevant?)… the American public is to blame for apathy, gullibility, stupidity but not for being overwhelmed by powerful corrupt organizations with deep pockets which arranged to treat the Occupy Wall Street movement as a terror group… the Chinese are controlling more of the US foreign policy than we know, and they might enjoy the Russian sanctions for the next purchases of large European agri-farm businesses

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw48qEZY0A0 (full podcast)

      18. Some other interesting insights for your reference:

        A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man, which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.
        –G. Gordon Liddy

        A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul.
        — George Bernard Shaw

        “The Government does not tax to get the money it needs; government always finds a need for the money it gets.”
        — President Ronald Reagan

        Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
        — P.J. O’Rourke

        Government’s view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases:
        If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
        — Ronald Reagan (1986)

        If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it’s free.
        — P.J. O’Rourke

        The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery.
        –Winston Churchill

        We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.
        –Winston Churchill

        “Liberalism’s fatal flaw, …. is that it has no permanent norms, only a succession of enthusiasms espoused by minor prophets. Each of these seems like a hot new idea to liberals, but soon goes to irksome and destructive extremes.”Joe Sobran

        “Hell often follows (the socialist) Heaven on Earth.” Pimco’s Bill Gross,

        “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money” Margaret Thatcher

        One lone voice in Germany, a lyric poet by the name of Johann Christian Friedrich Hölderlin, who died in 1843. He stated, “What has made the State a hell on earth has been that man has tried to make it his heaven

        • Come on, you can not be serious.

          These folks started this debt orgy.

          Watch what they do, not what they say.


      19. So be it!!!!

        We all know that there is birth a life and a death. What we don’t know is what comes after the death. Like me I believe in an all Might God and Jesus as his son and the Holy Spirit. Some believe in that there is nothing it is over. To each their own.

        Just like what I just wrote. The nation and the world’s bank and money will die off, But for me I see a more beautiful world coming after that. There is nothing we can do to stop it, but to prep and Pray so that it is not as hard on us and we have a softer landing.



        • Some say half full, some say half empty, engineer types say you’re using the wrong size glass 🙂

          • Reb.
            That made me laugh!

        • Sgt. Heaven is one big Cop Shop in the sky with a Bar full of whisky, then later on you get to shoot the bottles off the shelf.

      20. Oh Brandon Smith! You are the Internet’s Captain Obvious. Always re-hashing the same old things and passing yourself off as having precision insight.

      21. I really, really hate this world and the things in it. Do not forget…all this misery is sanctioned and approved by God Himself…no one escapes.
        The utter debasement of mankind was already know before the foundation of the world…
        So when the shooting starts…everyone will be in God’s Will…it’s just how He wants it.

        • Hate this world and the things in it? I don’t I wouldn’t trade any of it. If everything was hunky dory and everything always went your way what good would that be? The reason why you have problems is that’s how your soul learns & grows. I just cant comprehend anyone being miserable who lives in the USA. We live like kings compared to the rest of the world. If you work for it you can have a good life. You are the one responsible for you if your unhappy it your fault. If America is so terrible Why does everyone else want to come here?

          • “If America is so terrible Why does everyone else want to come here?”

            Free housing
            Free education
            Free EBT cards
            Free medical care

            • Everything the working class here, does not get for free…

        • Well talon1776…. We all go through frustrations on a daily basis specially when the corrupt elites are in control but while I know that God has already my number but I am not planning to make that number comes sooner. I want the chance of taking as many as the SOB’s creating the misery for mankind with me and let the Almighty to decide who goes where.

        • You need to research the word theodicy – the existence of evil and why God permitted – tho not willed – it. James 1:3 says “And remember, when you are being tempted, do not say, “God is tempting me.” God is never tempted to do wrong, and he never tempts anyone else.” NLT Philip Yancy’s classic Where Is God When It Hurts is a good place to sart.

          Sounds like you have had a hard go of things. So have I. But there is a God who meets us – if we are willing – in our suffering. I recommend you ask Him to meet you in yours.

        • Talon;
          You must have loved the tune”Life sucks and theeeen you die”

      22. We slaves need to attach liens upon Congressional pensions and salaries. Why keep feeding the hog?

        • Why liens? They deserve no salaries and pensions. What the hell are they providing to us as slaves except protecting their ZOG/AIPAC masters.

      23. Noah’s neighbors laughed at him when he was building the arch, we know what happened to them.

        You have been warned, get ready.

        When the Rothschild criminal BIS warns SHTF is coming, keep watching the NFL if you want.

        • Yes ive seen the arch its located in St Louis. I didn’t know noah built it.

      24. 1776
        I have to agree 100% with you.
        Not our will but Gods will be done!!! a quote from His Son!

      25. With every plane that arrives here from an Ebola stricken area, the risk of spreading infection to people in the U.S. increases.

        Only a few cases so far in the U.S., yet insurance companies are now writing plans that EXCLUDE Ebola coverage.

        Is Obama trying to keep this quiet until the SHTF and they can’t hide it anymore?

        As for the American people, the administration encourages “ignorance is bliss”.

        Report: Obama Administration Pressured News Outlets to NOT Report Suspected Ebola Cases

        “At the urging of the Obama Administration, the Associated Press and other news outlets have agreed not to report on suspected cases of Ebola in the United States until a positive viral RNA test is completed.

        The administration and liberal activists were upset with coverage in the run-up to the midterm elections.”

        “There is a reason why Obama didn’t pick an Ebola Czar with any actual medical experience when he tabbed longtime Democrat party hack Ron Klain who is a lobbyist. The real danger was never that the foolish policies of Barry and the boys were exposing Americans to Ebola but rather the political implications of it all.”
        -The Gateway Pundit

      26. Test test

        • updated software & was having trouble posting

      27. People buy and people sell. Dollars are just a tool. If another tool exists and if preferable, then it will be used. Dollars are convenient. What else could I pay you with? bitcoins.
        Yes, the ultra-elites are printing up trillions of credit for themselves to loan to us; but, what is the alternative? Build your own house from scratch? Build your own car? Everything is so interconnected, we can just try to keep our pay rates tracking the inflation. I see no clear hero/villain coming it to challenge the dollar. Surely they’ll keep on spending and we’ll keep on borrowing. Maybe we can garner some grub down here amongst the serfs.

      28. Ok. Let’s all come to some sort of middle ground. The doom-porn fanatics and the people that think that nothing is happening and the government loves you. Most likely nothing huge and catastrophic will take place. And on the other hand our freedoms are slowly being stripped away. The collapse of America is a planned event by extra-dimensional beings that don’t exist in our time frame. They do everything gradually like they always have since the beginning of time. So, in fin, yes America is experiencing a collapse, but it will not be a black swan event. So everyone let’s just enjoy our day.

      29. And for those Grima Wormtongues/the election did nothing gripers, now this news below (and yes, we get it, guys – there are a LOT of RINOs, and the election still leaves a LOT of unresolved issues. WE GET IT. Still, some good news. And instead of whining, call your senators in support of the below:

        Sen. Mike Lee of Utah and Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas (AP Photo)
        (CNSNews.com) – Republican Senators Ted Cruz of Texas, Mike Lee of Utah, Jeff Sessions of Alabama, Pat Roberts of Kansas, Mike Crapo of Idaho, and David Vitter of Louisiana sent a letter to lame-duck Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada today saying that if President Obama takes unilateral action to grant amnesty to illegal aliens it “will create a constitutional crisis.”

        The senators told Reid that they would assist him in enacting a measure to stop Obama from unilaterally granting an amnesty, but that if Reid lets Obama go forward with such an amnesty they “would use all procedural means necessary” to make the Senate focus on the constitutional crisis they say that this “lawless amnesty” would create.On Dec. 11, the continuing resolution now funding the government will expire. Before that date, both Houses of Congress will need to approve a new continuing resolution to fund the government beyond that date.
        If the CR does not permit the Executive Branch to spend money on some action, the Executive Branch cannot take that action.
        “We write to express our alarm with President Obama’s announced intention to take unilateral executive action by the end of this year to lawlessly grant amnesty to immigrants who have entered the country illegally,” the senators wrote Reid.
        “The Supreme Court has recognized that ‘over no conceivable subject is the power of Congress more complete’ than its power over immigration,” the senators said. “Therefore, President Obama will be exercising powers properly belonging to Congress if he makes good his threat.

        “This will create a constitutional crisis that demands action by Congress to restore the separation of powers,” the senators told Reid. “As majority leader of the Senate, you have the responsibility of not only representing the citizens of your state, but also of protecting the Constitution through vigilant exercise of the checks and balances provided under the Constitution,” wrote Cruz, Lee, Sessions, Roberts, Crapo and Vitter.

        “Therefore, we write to offer our full assistance in ensuring expeditious Senate debate and passage for a measure that preserves the power of Congress by blocking any action the president may take to violate the Constitution and unilaterally grant amnesty,” the senators said.

        “[H]owever,” they continued, “should you decline to defend the Senate and the Constitution from executive overreach, the undersigned senators will use all procedural means necessary to return the Senate’s focus during the lame duck session to resolving the constitutional crisis created by President Obama’s lawless amnesty.”

      30. The only folks who buy this stuff anymore are the small minded unsuccessful, socially inept types who think an economic collapse would be like Rawles “Patriots” in which case they will suddenly be Important People and all of those “wealthy”, educated, successful, socially adjusted types will fall under them in the new social order.

        If the economy finally died, it would do it much the same as argentina or pre wwII germany- society would still exist. Worse, so would the government who would use it to clamp down on us. Even in a full blown economic collapse, there would eventually be a reestablishment, more than likely from another economic power. Me personally, I’m not looking forward to Chinese rule or the resulting brief insurgency.

      31. Issa: Document dump shows Holder ‘at the heart’ of Fast and Furious debate

        “House oversight committee Chairman Darrell Issa told Fox News on Thursday that a massive trove of emails handed to his office on the eve of the elections indicates Attorney General Eric Holder was “at the heart” of deliberations over the Operation Fast and Furious scandal.

        More than 64,000 pages of documents were given to the committee Monday night, a move Issa, R-Calif., said was a ploy to make sure they didn’t sway the election. But he said his staff is starting to go through them – already, one email exchange has surfaced in which Holder in 2011 blasted Issa “and his idiot cronies” looking into the botched anti-gun trafficking operation.”


      32. The GOP took control of the Senate and gained in the House. Whoop de doo! Now that mafia directed gang of warmongers will further scream the rhetoric of evil Russia and Iran and fan the self induced flames of more defense spending, bowing down to their master’s Israhell. As we approach Veterans day and the farce that is “thank the troops” as if war is our top priority and a legitimate endeavor, the nation’s voices of no war and peace are further pushed into silence and ignored. We can agree in mass that the neverending wars are America’s downfall and by voicing our opposition stop the planned destruction of our future. Don’t be apathetic, don’t bow down to the murderous criminals. Speak out and loud American’s!

      33. to those no longer paying attention to the last article on or 2nd amendment

        Enemy of the State says:
        Comment ID: 3261821
        November 6, 2014 at 12:57 pm
        From Sipsey Street Irregulars site quote

        Fact One: The economic and social system cannot stumble along forever. It WILL collapse. It has always been my hope that we could avoid civil war with the encroaching citizen disarmament tyranny long enough for the collapse to turn firearm owners into the most popular people in our communities. Not that I want to see it happen, but system collapse and anarchy will make our case that the armed citizenry are the only consistent guarantors of safety and liberty in this country. Come breakdown, our neighbors (and local authorities) will turn TO us, not on us.
        Yet, what effects will such a calamity have on the current gloating winners of political lottery? Why they’ll be stuck with the butcher’s bill, and the political blame. They are celebrating now their own future (and wholly predictable) systemic collapse.
        Fact Two: It seems that with the results of Tuesday, the emboldened petty tyrants of the state of Connecticut will be plunging ahead with their deadly raids and ignite a civil war. And how will the GOP elite react to that? Poorly, I suspect. Deliverance for the intended victims of Malloy and Lawlor will NOT come from the national GOP, nor their handmaidens the NRA.

      34. The recent elections held no real good news,was not a vote for something just against something,the only good I saw was that gun control freaks will have to wait a bit longer.A economy will arise out of the ahses,have a diverse setup of any savings will go a long way towards the life you have on the other side,that if you don’t die protecting it.I would have if affordable land/preps/metals(yes including brass and lead!)and while you still have the time in relative safety learn more skills,perhaps some carpentry with hand tools/a baby forge to try your hand at black smithing/gardening with basic tools and knowledge,you get the idea.I have been very busy and thus not on board much or for awhile,it hits the fan real soon hope all setup as well as you can be supply wise but more importantly mentally ready as one can be,best of luck to us all!

        • If that was me I would have to the correction officer to go screw himself, I would have told him he has no police powers. and said nothing else. I then would have went back to Grants Collage and finish doing what I had to do.
          As I was on the way I would have called the Bosses at the New Room. I would have him telling them the Lt’s name and tell them that they were going to call the State Police.
          He should have told them he had a 1St. Amendment Right and he was going to USE IT. Then turned around and got into his car and left.
          Lt. Coving up a FEMA CAMP???? Maybe Obloa patients ?????

        • Thats in Saratoga Springs, in Saratoga County and this official looking guy kept saying Albany and that any filming had to go through Albany. Didnt look like any g-man, just a contractor w/ a hard on.

          So Albany huh. FBI is in Albany. Albany is state capitol. Looks like this could be a holding facility. Theyre hiding something Illegals staying here?
          Anyone have access to the website on controlled air space? What does the google satellite images show?

        • I’m sure their cover story is that people are trying to break IN to the prison so it needs guarding.

      35. Three Sentences for Your Consideration

        These three, short sentences tell you a lot about the direction of our current government and cultural environment:

        1. We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.

        Funny how that works. And here’s another one worth considering…

        2. Seems we constantly hear about how Social Security is going to run out of money. But we never hear about welfare or food stamps running out of money.

        What’s interesting is the first group “worked for” their money, but the second didn’t. Think about it…..and last but not least,

        3. Why are we cutting benefits for our veterans, no pay raises for our military and cutting our army to a level lower that before WWII, but we are not stopping the payments or benefits to illegal aliens?

        Am I the only one missing something?


        • Copperhead,

          These are all good questions to consider.

          I assume this is the direction the administration wants to take the country.

          These certainly fit their goals…

      36. off topic guys would you have hydra shock bullets on the road or FMJ s loaded while you were driving just getting a consensus, thx peeps

        • Hydra shocks

        • Like everything else it depends. Hydro shock what? 9mm,38,357.;2″or 6″. My small carry is a .357 ultra light 2″. It’s only 5 shots and I wouldn’t want to use it over 20-30 ft. So I shoot reduced V hydro shock. I can shoot 357 if I have to, but what I shoot isn’t going to go through a wall and kill someone 100 yds away. It hits something it stops. My larger carry is a 9MM Browning HP, first four in the clip are jacketed hollow points +P. After that solids. (If he isn’t down after 4 he’s behind something and Im going to punch a hole in it.) If there was a “correct” choice they would not make anything else.
          I also keep several hundred .30 AP for serious hole punching and a case of 12 Ga if It’s close and I don’t care about the mess. You buys your ticket, and takes your choice

      37. we got the next crisis. They been sitting on this one til the day after elections? Or is this part of the latest DHS drill to put the lights out?

        U.S.’Trojan Horse’ Bug Lurking in Vital US Computers Since 2011
        ht tp://abcnews.go.com/US/trojan-horse-bug-lurking-vital-us-computers-2011/story?id=26737476

        • Calgagus,

          I just read that linked on Drudge Report.

          From the article…

          “The hacked software is used to control complex industrial operations like oil and gas pipelines, power transmission grids, water distribution and filtration systems, wind turbines and even some nuclear plants. Shutting down or damaging any of these vital public utilities could severely impact hundreds of thousands of Americans.”

          Hmmm. not good

          • @Ky mom
            Im calling the trifecta.
            #1 power grids go down
            #2 economy goes into a tailspin
            #3 martial law

            Give it your best shot here. Whos on first?
            KY mom what say you?

            • Calgagus,

              I agree.

              I think if #1 and #2 occur, #3 will be next.

              1 + 2 = 3

              • well you got the math. Give us a date now KY mom.

                • so this virus has been present since 2011
                  and they are just not discovering it ???

                  WTF ???

                  apparently Homeland SeKUriTEe was too busy sniffing grandma’s colostomy bag and confiscating her knitting needles to notice ???

                  we have known for a LONG time just how vulnerable these systems are
                  and yet little to nothing has been done to protect them

                  great job by a bunch of incompetent over paid bureaucrats

                  • If you remove it, they will place something else you may not find. Better to analyze it and plan countermeasures.

                • Calgagus,

                  That is the million dollar question. I don’t have the answer.

                  I have a family member who works with computers. He said viruses and malware can spread to many computers quickly through the internet. Viruses can be inbedded and just not activated, until a desired date. The computer may not even recognize it as a virus or threat.

                  Those who create viruses and malware are constantly creating new ones. That is why we have to continue to install updates for windows and on our antivirus software.

          • Get ready. Here it comes. Here’s Johnny!!!

        • The malware in the infrastructure game has been played by all the major players for years. No major surprise here.

      38. *************** Rolling Stone Blockbuster: Main Witness In JPMorgan Case Breaks Her Gag Order ********************


        “Six years after the crisis that cratered the global economy, it’s not exactly news that the country’s biggest banks stole on a grand scale. That’s why the more important part of Fleischmann’s story is in the pains Chase and the Justice Department took to silence her.”

        good things the Republicans are back in control
        now we’ll get justice

        ha ha ha
        just kidding !!!

      39. The Magic Of CPI: Watch How Economists Transform A 400% Price Increase Into A 7.1% Decline

        “Manipulating the Consumer Price Index: Hedonic Quality Adjustments”

        “Confused how your cost of living increase is always orders of magnitude above the “inflation” reported by the BLS’ Consumer Price Index? Then prepare for your daily dose of Keynesian epiphany, with this step by step guide from the BLS of how to use the Hedonic Quality Adjustment to turn a 400% price increase into a 7.1% decline.”


      40. I smell a false flag…for coming economic collapse


        sorry if this is a repost.

        • Not a false flag, I reckon. Putin’s in a corner on a number of things, and he’d like a bargaining chip to wave at John “Floating Through Space” Kerry and his Halfrican boss. Business as usual.

      41. And the leftist fascism continues:

        High Schooler Suspended for 5 Days for Slicing an Apple

        This high schooler had the audacity to slice an apple while on school grounds, and because of his actions, he got suspended for five days. Specifically, his crime was bringing a weapon to school. From The Blaze:

        A 10th-grade student in Bedford, Ohio, was giving a presentation on the importance of healthy eating when he did something that got him suspended for five days. What was his breach?

        He tried to slice an apple.

        According to WOIO-TV, Da’von Shaw was demonstrating alternatives to fried food, and he remembered the slogan, “an apple a day keeps the doctor away.” He was showing the class how apples and dried cranberries can be a satisfying snack, but the teacher objected when he tried to slice the apple.

        “When I took out the knife, the teacher then told me that I couldn’t use it,” Shaw said. “I didn’t hesitate. I just gave it to her.”

        More of this disgusting story at http://lastresistance.com/8344/high-schooler-suspended-5-days-slicing-apple/#7zUmbQmu4GdhPXwd.99

      42. The Canadian dollar is down, the oil sands industry in Alberta is falling down, and lesbian Premeir Katleen Wynne is trying to make into law an explicit Sexual Education Program for Kindergarten students.

        Americans! Help protect the Canadian children from pedophile teachers!

        Contact the Toronto District School Board, York School Board, Halton School Board, Niagra School Board and Durham School Board and tell these pedophiles to stop corrupting our children!

        • How far “Toronto the good” and Ontario have fallen, eh!?

          I am a dual citizen, and get to vote in both elections in the US and Canada, and engage in the fight for freedom on both sides.

          The truth is, it is now a world-wide fight, involving Sweden, the UK, Argentina, Singapore, you name it.

          I, for one, am not backing down.

      43. What happened to the “Be Informed” comment guy??? I miss his slant of the world crsis’

      44. National debt is created the same as our currency, out of thin air. The $ is an illusion for those living in a dream, as is the debt?

        Pieces of paper with ink have absolutely no positive value. When buying a product with USD’s you’re producing more debt by purchasing goods that have already been paid for through labor of honest men/women.

        The FED is the middleman in the biggest scam in history.
        Paper (i.e. bonds, stocks, contracts, birth certificates, USD’s)all functionalities of wall street banksters and the Rothschild legion of evil.

        True value rest in the good will of the people and not the corruption of man.

        As to when it all collapses, when we’ve had enough. That’s when.

        • vtfree2 states pieces of paper with ink have no value. It is a IOU and it all depends of the character 7 trustworthiness of the writer of the IOU. Now the actual cash money to back the enormous debt does not exist. The debt is in the form on treasury notes IOU,s much the same as a home mortgage or car loan. The mint has been printing 24×7 for decades. However the mint doesn’t print anything larger than a $100 bill. and paper money wears out and the mint burns worn out money every day. That’s why we are not afloat in big piles of cash money. Unless the mint starts printing cash in demoniations larger than a $100 we wont be using dollar bills for toilet paper. No one will have wheelbarrows full of paper cash. So when it all collapses where is anyone going to get enough paper money to pay off their exorbant personal debt? Yet that debt will not disappear the IOU document they signed will still be existing. The point is there is not a over supply of the actual paper money in circulation. So after a collapse the IOU can still be enforced. Maby prison work camps for those who cant pay their IOU?

      45. I am a strong ,consistent critic of big,out of control,corrupt government

        but I always have to laugh when I hear some poor fool say
        “the private sector can do it better”

        just another example
        that it cannot

        Airbag Maker Takata Saw and Hid Risk in 2004, Former Workers Say


        does your vehicle have one of these defective air bags ???

      46. Get some sandbags.

        Good uses for Martial Law to Nuclear Attacks and everything in between.

      47. ”’The senators told Reid that they would assist him in enacting a measure to stop Obama from unilaterally granting an amnesty, but that if Reid lets Obama go forward with such an amnesty they “would use all procedural means necessary” to make the Senate focus on the constitutional crisis they say that this “lawless amnesty” would create.”’

        Dear Traitors:
        YOUR constitutional crisis was created by YOUR congress on January 19, 2008 when you allowed an illegal alien, one that can NOT prove place of birth or parentage, to reside in our White House.
        Where were your ‘procedural measures’ then???

        • Nothing like an impeachment to rile the markets. Pre-determined cause and effect. The banking system had nothing to do with getting obama selected for the White House. They want to walk away clean.

      48. Maybe it is the final gasp and then again maybe not.

        Their ability to kick the can further and further down the road continues to amaze me.
        On the other hand I don’t believe it can continue indefinitely.

        Man ain’t I a wealth of information!

      49. Spot on Brandon Smith. I hope all comments will keep emotions on your topic. Thank you.

      50. TPTB are wringing out the last drops of wealth from the American people. When we are drained, they collapse the system and stick us with the bill.

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