Watch: How Liberals React When Asked to House An Illegal Immigrant Child In Their Homes

by | Aug 2, 2014 | Entertainment, Headline News | 238 comments

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    Dan Joseph of MRC TV visited predominantly liberal Oldtown Alexandria, Virgina and asked residents to sign a petition in support of bringing illegal immigrant children to their city.

    Those who agreed were then asked to sign a second petition agreeing to house an illegal immigrant child in their own home or apartment.

    Here’re are the results:


    (Video via BizPac Review)

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      1. these are the same people who wanted free healthcare for everyone, but then realized (because they didn’t know what was in the bill until after they passed it) that they had to pay for it.

        woops.

        dumb asses.

        guess what –> immigration ain’t free either. someone has to pay for it.

        it’s enough for me to have to take care of my own family and keep us fed, clothed, and sheltered. now i – WE – are going to be pillaged so that a family from another country can come here and enjoy the benefits of the Neo American Dream (which now consists of EBT cards, government housing, free health care and free schooling)?

        idiots.

        • Liberals will support every feel-good cause except reality….

          • Yeah like the reality of our own homeless problem. Jesus is The Truth!

            • John 10:1

              Anyone whon enters the sheep pen other than by the gate is THIEF AND ROBBER!
              – Jesus Christ

              • The main problem with liberals are that they desperately want to be martyrs and expect everyone else to be the same. They are completely narrow minded and why so many of them support BO no matter what he does wrong. It is a terrible thought of destroying the Constitution and force people to house strangers in their own homes with God knows what disease they have. Of course if BO orders this through some executive order, there will be a large section of the population that hails their emperor.

                • Nah….liberals don’t want to be martyrs…they want YOU to be a martyr.

                  • TREASON IN THE OVAL OFFICE!!! DEATH TO THE NORTH AMERICAN UNION!!!

                    Pass it on! 🙂

                  • They what other peoples money, time and life…..

                • “The main problem with liberals are that they desperately want to be martyrs and expect everyone else to be the same.”

                  Liberals suffer from race guilt. They invoke skin color to the point of obsession. They look for racists behind every bush because they are riddled with racism themselves. They play the race card spitefully, disproportionately, as a first resort and without any justification.

                  • Reminds me of an old Patton quote, patriotism isn’t about dying for your country. It’s about making the other son of a bitch die for theirs.

              • Feds Fly Unaccompanied Minors to Alaska

                “As unaccompanied minors continue to illegally cross the Texas-Mexico border, President Obama’s Health and Human Services (HHS) has been quietly releasing them onto U.S. soil. A total of 30,340 unaccompanied minors have already been released from federal custody and placed into foster homes, according to HHS’ Office of Refugee and Resettlement (ORR)…”

                “The trip from McAllen, Texas–where the current border crisis is occurring–to Anchorage, Alaska is a nine and a half hour flight. This is almost double the time it would take to fly the migrants back to their home countries in Central America; a flight from McAllen to El Salvador takes just over five hours, according to Google Maps.”

                “Millions of U.S. taxpayer dollars have been spent flying illegal immigrants to locations around the nation. Breitbart Texas recently revealed that a Department of Homeland Security budget for Fiscal Year 2015 includes more than $87 million for the transportation of illegal immigrants, who are most often flown via charter plane from Southern Texas to shelters located in various U.S. cities.”

                  • Libturds aka communists are no good, useless, hate America, hate everything good we have ever stood for, etc. They don’t deserve to live.

                • Now there’s an expensive plane ride on taxpayer dime. No expense too great for Obama’s twisted vision. Thanks KY Mom.

              • Hank the Farmer 1.0
                Anybody who enters a sheep from the Rear Gate is twisted or really lonely.

                Jeebus

              • What did Mary Christ and James Christ have to say?

          • You summed that up nicely RW…ignoring reality will not bring good results in the near future.

          • Liberal is just another word for hypocrite.

          • That’s because reality is not always so feel good. Liberals have to make up their shortcomings by spending other people’s money.

        • This invasion is an OUTRAGE and MUST be stopped!!!!

          Just who do these scum foreigners think they are — breaking OUR laws to pour in here with NOTHING but the clothes on their backs?!!

          How dare they expect us to provide them — free, gratis — with their next meal and the meal after that and the meal after that and the meal after that and the meal after that….and a change of clothes after a few days or a week….and a ditch to defecate in (which is exactly what they are accustomed to doing, to the point that there are problems with getting them “familiar” with bathrooms because they don’t know how, literally, to use a bathroom)…..not to mention their first drink of water after arriving, which is not coming out of a tin cup drawn from a public well…..and something over their head to shield them from the weather……and safety from being preyed upon by their own countrymen……and…..and….and….

          These barbaric illiterate invading mooching wildly-irresponsible hut people are now receiving — free, gratis — flat-screen TV’s, air conditioning, beauty salons, in-room landline telephones, soccer fields, ping pong tables, private bathrooms in their rooms, 3 squares a day, etc., etc., etc., etc.,…………….ON THE BACKS OF OUR HARD WORK TO PRODUCE THE TAXES THAT ARE BEING ILLEGALLY AND UNLAWFULLY MISAPPROPRIATED AND MISUSED TO PAY FOR ALL OF THESE PERKS!!!!!

          And they think this just appears from nowhere because gringo America is dumb enough to hand it to them!!!

          And let’s not forget that virtually all of them have either bugs crawling on them from infestation, or have a highly contagious disease, or have serious mental problems, or have some other form of serious health problem. And every one of them is beholden to the cartels or they would not have made it to the border to begin with — the same cartels who rape 3-year-olds and behead anyone who looks cross-eyed at them!!!!!

          AND, WE DON’T EVEN KNOW WHO THEY ARE!!!! THEY HAVE NO IDENTIFICATION AT ALL!!!!!!!! THEY COULD BE AND LIKELY ARE GIVING US WHATEVER NAME THEY FANTASIZE TO GIVE US!!!!!! WE WILL NEVER, EVER KNOW WHO THEY TRULY ARE!!!!!!

          This is so unbelievably WRONG and so unbelievably OUTRAGEOUS and yet ———- our elected leaders are doing NOT ONE SINGLE THING TO STOP IT!!!!!!!!!!

          Even in the face of the continuing crimes these ditch people are committing all around our country, nothing is being done to stop this invasion and get these basket cases OUT of OUR country.

          And just what do they think they are going to do to support themselves here?? Hmmmm?? Our economy is struggling along, not booming. Our costs of living are practically skyrocketing. Housing and food have never been MORE expensive. So just how do they think they are going to pay for just the basic cost of living here, given that they all are drooling to get a below-minimum-wage job of any kind — WITHOUT the ability to even speak our language or read their own language. Our own American minimum-wage workers cannot support themselves on minimum wage — duh — and are moving ever closer to throwing themselves into the open arms of organized Communists for the sake of just a possibility that they can riot their way to $15 an hour for flipping burgers on an automated machine without any marketable skills whatsoever because they didn’t bother to pay attention in our free public K-12 school system!!

          And these ditch people think they are going to awaken in the land of milk and honey and live like the upper class of their own infested 3rd world pits???

          Somewhere, sometime, reality is going to hit.

          But there is NO EXCUSE for these invaders to be allowed out of the immediate border areas while awaiting shipment back across the border. Mexico can either like it or lump it. These ditch people are excess population from countries that have no sense of responsible procreation — in countries that never have had anywhere close to the space, economy, infrastructure, or resources to support the size of their populations for AT LEAST the past generation!!

          And as for this nonsense about “reuniting families” and “they are family units.” BALONEY!! Well over half of them are ILLEGITIMATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! These cultures from where they are coming have been irresponsibly breeding for many, many, many years. It now has reached the tipping point, as any think tank or government agency concerned with security anywhere in America has been predicting would happen for at least the past 25 years.

          There are no more words to express the outrage. This will lead to profound, horrendous consequences for Americans. This will destroy our country — the country that so many of us and our parents and our grandparents fought for, built, took care of, protected, and took pride in.

          And NO, Pelosi, these ditch people are NOT Americans.

          • Thank you Thomas Paine. Hats off to you good sir.

          • Simple solution…everyone needs to file exempt on their taxes…hell that wouldn’t work, they would just print more money or push a button to change the decimal point.

            • That’s actually my idea for a protest. “Starve the Beast”

              Demand congress stop illegal immigration, defund the IRS enacting a flat tax, pass a budget, enforce Obamacare as passed.

              Until they act no more withholding.

        • Several weeks ago one of the Liberal commentators (she was pretty much a daily fixture) on a very popular 6PM news show was whining continuously, for several days in a row, about how we needed to be COMPASSIONATE and CARING about the poor little CHILDREN invading (my term, not hers) our country. After the third day of listening to this whining, I snapped and wrote an email to her and the anchor challenging her sincerity and challenging her to prove her sincerity by adopting one or two of the poor little dears into her family. In addition, I challenged her to start a campaign amongst her Facebook and Twitter followers to do the same.

          I’m not claiming cause and effect here, but she wasn’t seen back on the show for over a week and has only been featured once week since. Seems to me when you a person calls a Liberal opinion makers bluff, their credibility and sincerity seems to suddenly evaporate.

          • Signs Posted For Illegals Increasingly Written In Chinese

            “Illegals from China and over 70% of the world’s nations are flooding into America as its border collapses.”

            “The Border Patrol is increasingly posting signs written in Chinese near the U.S./Mexico border, which underscores the booming human smuggling trade as illegal aliens from China flood into America.”

            Infowars dot com

            • Enjoy the time you have left since the plan is to eliminate and replace the existing especially white population. The Stupid Party thinks that by being complicit they will get to be among the new elites. Ain’t gonna happen since as soon as power is transferred they will not be needed anymore and they will be taken out and disposed of.

        • Typical Lib thinking….. They don’t think past their initial beliefs to see the absurdity…. It’s all about feeeeeeelings.

        • Sorry this is so long, but THIS IS the LAW that is being broken on a daily basis:

          Federal Immigration and Nationality Act
          Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii)

          “Any person who . . . encourages or induces an alien to . . . reside . . . knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such . . . residence is . . . in violation of law, shall be punished as provided . . . for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs . . . fined under title 18 . . . imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.”

          Section 274 felonies under the federal Immigration and Nationality Act, INA 274A(a)(1)(A):

          A person (including a group of persons, business, organization, or local government) commits a federal felony when she or he:

          * assists an alien s/he should reasonably know is illegally in the U.S. or who lacks employment authorization, by transporting, sheltering, or assisting him or her to obtain employment, or

          * encourages that alien to remain in the U.S. by referring him or her to an employer or by acting as employer or agent for an employer in any way, or

          * knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions.

          Penalties upon conviction include criminal fines, imprisonment, and forfeiture of vehicles and real property used to commit the crime. Anyone employing or contracting with an illegal alien without verifying his or her work authorization status is guilty of a misdemeanor. Aliens and employers violating immigration laws are subject to arrest, detention, and seizure of their vehicles or property. In addition, individuals or entities who engage in racketeering enterprises that commit (or conspire to commit) immigration-related felonies are subject to private civil suits for treble damages and injunctive relief.

          Recruitment and Employment of Illegal Aliens

          It is unlawful to hire an alien, to recruit an alien, or to refer an alien for a fee, knowing the alien is unauthorized to work in the United States. It is equally unlawful to continue to employ an alien knowing that the alien is unauthorized to work. Employers may give preference in recruitment and hiring to a U.S. citizen over an alien with work authorization only where the U.S. citizen is equally or better qualified. It is unlawful to hire an individual for employment in the United States without complying with employment eligibility verification requirements. Requirements include examination of identity documents and completion of Form I-9 for every employee hired. Employers must retain all I-9s, and, with three days’ advance notice, the forms must be made available for inspection. Employment includes any service or labor performed for any type of remuneration within the United States, with the exception of sporadic domestic service by an individual in a private home. Day laborers or other casual workers engaged in any compensated activity (with the above exception) are employees for purposes of immigration law. An employer includes an agent or anyone acting directly or indirectly in the interest of the employer. For purposes of verfication of authorization to work, employer also means an independent contractor, or a contractor other than the person using the alien labor. The use of temporary or short-term contracts cannot be used to circumvent the employment authorization verification requirements. If employment is to be for less than the usual three days allowed for completing the I-9 Form requirement, the form must be completed immediately at the time of hire.

          An employer has constructive knowledge that an employee is an illegal unauthorized worker if a reasonable person would infer it from the facts. Constructive knowledge constituting a violation of federal law has been found where (1) the I-9 employment eligibility form has not been properly completed, including supporting documentation, (2) the employer has learned from other individuals, media reports, or any source of information available to the employer that the alien is unauthorized to work, or (3) the employer acts with reckless disregard for the legal consequences of permitting a third party to provide or introduce an illegal alien into the employer’s work force. Knowledge cannot be inferred solely on the basis of an individual’s accent or foreign appearance.

          Actual specific knowledge is not required. For example, a newspaper article stating that ballrooms depend on an illegal alien work force of dance hostesses was held by the courts to be a reasonable ground for suspicion that unlawful conduct had occurred.

          IT IS ILLEGAL FOR NONPROFIT OR RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS to knowingly assist an employer to violate employment sanctions, REGARDLESS OF CLAIMS THAT THEIR CONVICTIONS REQUIRE THEM TO ASSIST ALIENS. Harboring or aiding illegal aliens is not protected by the First Amendment. It is a felony to establish a commercial enterprise for the purpose of evading any provision of federal immigration law. Violators may be fined or imprisoned for up to five years.

          Encouraging and Harboring Illegal Aliens

          It is a violation of law for any person to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection in any place, including any building or means of transportation, any alien who is in the United States in violation of law. HARBORING MEANS ANY CONDUCT THAT TENDS TO SUBSTANTIALLY FACILITATE AN ALIEN TO REMAIN IN THE U.S. ILLEGALLY. The sheltering need not be clandestine, and harboring covers aliens arrested outdoors, as well as in a building. This provision includes harboring an alien who entered the U.S. legally but has since lost his legal status.

          An employer can be convicted of the felony of harboring illegal aliens who are his employees if he takes actions in reckless disregard of their illegal status, such as ordering them to obtain false documents, altering records, obstructing INS inspections, or taking other actions that facilitate the alien’s illegal employment. Any person who within any 12-month period hires ten or more individuals with actual knowledge that they are illegal aliens or unauthorized workers is guilty of felony harboring. It is also a felony to encourage or induce an alien to come to or reside in the U.S. knowing or recklessly disregarding the fact that the alien’s entry or residence is in violation of the law. This crime applies to any person, rather than just employers of illegal aliens. Courts have ruled that “encouraging” includes counseling illegal aliens to continue working in the U.S. or assisting them to complete applications with false statements or obvious errors. The fact that the alien is a refugee fleeing persecution is not a defense to this felony, since U.S. law and the UN Protocol on Refugees both require that a refugee must report to immigration authorities without delay upon entry to the U.S.

          The penalty for felony harboring is a fine and imprisonment for up to five years. The penalty for felony alien smuggling is a fine and up to ten years’ imprisonment. Where the crime causes serious bodily injury or places the life of any person in jeopardy, the penalty is a fine and up to twenty years’ imprisonment. If the criminal smuggling or harboring results in the death of any person, the penalty can include life imprisonment. Convictions for aiding, abetting, or conspiracy to commit alien smuggling or harboring, carry the same penalties. Courts can impose consecutive prison sentences for each alien smuggled or harbored. A court may order a convicted smuggler to pay restitution if the alien smuggled qualifies as a victim under the Victim and Witness Protection Act. Conspiracy to commit crimes of sheltering, harboring, or employing illegal aliens is a separate federal offense punishable by a fine of up to $10,000 or five years’ imprisonment.

          Enforcement

          A person or entity having knowledge of a violation or potential violation of employer sanctions provisions may submit a signed written complaint to the INS office with jurisdiction over the business or residence of the potential violator, whether an employer, employee, or agent. The complaint must include the names and addresses of both the complainant and the violator, and detailed factual allegations, including date, time, and place of the potential violation, and the specific conduct alleged to be a violation of employer sanctions. By regulation, the INS will only investigate third-party complaints that have a reasonable probability of validity. Designated INS officers and employees, and all other officers whose duty it is to enforce criminal laws, may make an arrest for violation of smuggling or harboring illegal aliens.

          State and local law enforcement officials have the general power to investigate and arrest violators of federal immigration statutes without prior INS knowledge or approval, as long as they are authorized to do so by state law. There is no extant federal limitation on this authority. The 1996 immigration control legislation passed by Congress was intended to encourage states and local agencies to participate in the process of enforcing federal immigration laws. Immigration officers and local law enforcement officers may detain an individual for a brief warrantless interrogation where circumstances create a reasonable suspicion that the individual is illegally present in the U.S. Specific facts constituting a reasonable suspicion include evasive, nervous, or erratic behavior; dress or speech indicating foreign citizenship; and presence in an area known to contain a concentration of illegal aliens. Hispanic appearance alone is not sufficient. Immigration officers and police must have a valid warrant or valid employer’s consent to enter workplaces or residences. Any vehicle used to transport or harbor illegal aliens, or used as a substantial part of an activity that encourages illegal aliens to come to or reside in the U.S. may be seized by an immigration officer and is subject to forfeiture. The forfeiture power covers any conveyances used within the U.S.

          RICO — Citizen Recourse

          Private persons and entities may initiate civil suits to obtain injunctions and treble damages against enterprises that conspire to or actually violate federal alien smuggling, harboring, or document fraud statutes, under the Racketeer-Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO). The pattern of racketeering activity is defined as commission of two or more of the listed crimes. A RICO enterprise can be any individual legal entity, or a group of individuals who are not a legal entity but are associated in fact, AND CAN INCLUDE NONPROFIT ASSOCIATIONS.

          Tax Crimes

          Employers who aid or abet the preparation of false tax returns by failing to pay income or Social Security taxes for illegal alien employees, or who knowingly make payments using false names or Social Security numbers, are subject to IRS criminal and civil sanctions. U.S. nationals who have suffered intentional discrimination because of citizenship or national origin by an employer with more than three employees may file a complaint within 180 days of the discriminatory act with the Special Counsel for Immigration-Related Unfair Employment Practices, U.S. Department of Justice. In additon to the federal statutes summarized, state laws and local ordinances controlling fair labor practices, workers compensation, zoning, safe housing and rental property, nuisance, licensing, street vending, and solicitations by contractors may also apply to activities that involve illegal aliens.

          I think all should send a copy of this LAW to the White House, Justice Dept, Dept. of Immigration, Dept. of Homeland Security, and to every member of the Congress….Both Houses.

          FOB

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          • Federal Immigration and Nationality Act
            Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii)

            “Any person who . . . encourages or induces an alien to . . . reside . . . knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such . . . residence is . . . in violation of law, shall be punished as provided . . . for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs . . . fined under title 18 . . . Shall be taken to a place of public viewing and executed for treason on more than 2 hours after convition.
            There fixed it for ya! 🙂

      2. Thanks for the divide and conquer term liberal.
        Of course we need more separation to get things right in the republic.

        • FINGER , your right, the correct term is socialist.
          Proper terminology is important.

          • Isn’t is actually “progressive liberal?”

          • ‘socialist hypocrite.’

          • For atleast 40 years it was “Liberal” and then along came the speech Nazi’s like “finger pointer” and tried to change the terminology. So now even the so-called Conservatives want to call them Progressives. We ain’t going to conform! Their Liberal’s and they’re Socialist, reguardless of what you call them. Trekker Out.

        • Ok try this one on for size.
          LIBTARD!
          There, thats better

          • IMO, all those categories and names all fall under one main one and that is INCONSTITUTIONAL

            • typo* meant to read UNCONSTITUTIONAL

          • America is now about the “1% Haves” and the “99% Have Nots.” We are ripe for a Mutiny.

          • how about commie fruitcake?

        • It looks like the old adage applies here;
          Socialism, good for YOU, NOT for the socialists.

        • @finger pointer…

          Truth hurts, don’t it?

      3. This sums up the state of mind for the modern “liberal”. They love when aid goes to poor people, they love when healthcare is available and every mouth gets fed… as long as someone else foots the bill. This ties in with the rampant narcissism and psychopathy in today’s society.

        Toss them all out.

        • Another thing liberals are famous for; is backing away when the cost of pulling off all those freebies and charitable programs, starts coming directly out of their pockets.

          Ask them to take a cut in pay to provide for others and see what they do.

          As long as it is someone elses $$ their pushing at the problem, then it is OK.

      4. Not In MY Back Yard!!!!

        • The Old Coach: You’ve hit the nail on the head with the NIMBY sentiment. I see it more with liberals like those who want less coal and nuclear but object when their area is selected for a wind farm because it’ll effect the esthetics. They’re fine with all these measure as long as they don’t have shoulder the burden. But conservatives/capitalists are also NIMBY folks. Rex Tillerson CEO of Exxon-Mobil loves fracking in anyone’s/everyone’s backyard but when one was put up in his uber-wealthy neighborhood he and his neighbors filed a lawsuit. Well, well, well, no pun intended, but my aren’t we a big fat hypocrite Rex! No one wants to do the heavy lifting.

      5. Went to WalMart the other day and a lady in the pharmacy said sure glad we live in Wyoming where we can open carry, and I agreed, but I thought if it’s so great why in the hell am I the only one doing it. All you brave freedom loving patriots on this site that are going to do so much when the Schumer Hits The Fan. How about a little action now, instead of a bunch of excuses! Trekker Out. Freemen Own Guns, Slaves Don’t!

        • MT,
          Wish I could in this SH*T Hole of Newjerseystan , can carry for work (FEDGOV) but even this state has problems with that , I seems only the Liberal state Demoratic Party officials get carry permits in this may issue state , impossible for the average citizen and it does not recognize concealed carry permits from other states. Technically I could be cited even though I am exempt by federal law something which is something this rotten state does not recognize.
          One guy at work got arrested transiting home went to court and the judge refused to recognize his credentials until US marshals showed up with arrest warrants for the judge and prosecuter. It was quickly dropped . We are now told DO NOT CARRY UNLESS ON OFFICAL BUSINESS and to secure your side arm out of sight and locked in the trunk.
          And I cannot confirm but rumor has it both were audited by the IRS later that year. This is when Corizine was governer not the Fat Man.
          I wish I could get out of this state but I am posted here for god knows how long.
          NJ is the center of the SH*T STORM and will most likely be first for all the pervious Festivities imagined (Illegals , Ebola , Gun Confiscation , iternments etc) none of us are safe , .GOV or civillian , at present there is a civil war occurring in our government COLLECTIVISTS. VS INDIVIDUALISTS and the divisions run deep . Some of our government profile forms are now wanting to know our religious affiliation , I really confused them I put down Messaniac judeism that should keep them thinking for a while.
          We are at present closer to a civil war than at any time in the last 154 years .
          Stay strong , realize all things pass and never last forever .
          Improvise , adapt , overcome we are all living history and the future is unwritten ……..

          RESIST NO MATTER WHAT ANYWAY YOU CAN

          DEEP BEHIND ENEMY LINES IN THE PEOPLE’S DEMOCRATIC PROGRESSIVE REPUBLIC OF NEWJERSEYSTAN ( FUSA , former united states of America )

          EVERY DAY IS ONE DAY CLOSER TO VICTORY !

          Semper Fi 8541

          • Only thing good about Jersey is that South Jersey has great philly cheeses steaks and some of the best diners around. Not much else is worth anything.

            • I like the veggies they grow!

          • Night Breaker, first if I may say, I don’t condone or recommend that any one break the law, unless your prepared to be a Trial Case. And if I lived in a State that didn’t have open carry, I doubt that I would Open Carry. And John W, Jersey does have one other good thing, and that would be the Pine Barrens. But back to my point, I’m not argueing whether Conceal Carry or Open Carry is the best option, both have there advantages. My point is, A Freedom Not Exercised, Is A Freedom Lost. You don’t have to do as I do, and carry 7 days a week. Just 1 day a week or 1 day a month by every Freedom Loving Patriot would change it from an oddity to a normal excepted Right. Trekker Out. Free Men Own Guns, Slaves Don’t!

        • MT … I live in a state where open carry is allowed by law. However, as a practical matter its not condoned both by the populace and the police. If I walked anywhere in public here open carrying, I’d have a SWAT team descend on me faster then you can say popo, [because you know guns kill people (sarc)]. I don’t carry concealed either because I shouldn’t have to beg for a permit to do something that is a guaranteed right under the Constitution, not to mention that if a national confiscation law is ever passed or martial law is declared, they’ll be coming for permit holders first There was a bill in the legislature two years ago to kill the CCW permit that was gathering a lot of support and seemed about to pass. Then Newtown happened. I still have hope that the bill will be resurrected, once we throw out all of the liberals in the legislature this fall.

          • If you don’t want to beg for a concealed carry permit, then don’t beg. If you think its a right guaranteed to you under the constitution, then just carry concealed without a permit. Lots of people do it and your chance of getting caught is almost zero if you are otherwise law abiding.If you do have to defend yourself in a life and death situation, being fined for carrying without a permit is a small price to pay.

            • V … Concealed carry without a permit, to me, is not worth the risk if I get caught. I know lots of other people do it, it’s their choice.

              First offense here is a misdemeanor with an unspecified fine. The first offense WILL result in a search warrant and probable “temporary” impoundment of all other firearms and any ammo that I might have. I say “temporary” because I’ve seen other cases in the local press where the person had to sue to have firearms returned. Second offense is a Class B felony with a fine AND up to seven years in jail, not mention that my 2nd Amendment right to own or possess a firearm is FOREVER forfeit.

              Forever is a damn long time.

          • Navy Vet don’t take this personal, but this is the reason for my rant. What good is a freedom if we can’t or won’t exercise it. Once it becomes so obsolete that no one uses it, it becomes very easy for the Anti people to say, only nuts and extremist do it so why not ban it. Now I know I’ll hear all about the 2nd Amendment rights, but they’ve been around since the writting of the Constitution and still there are States that have NO open carry. So I guess my next question would be, when the police or whoever decides that Freedom of Speech shouldn’t be condoned, will we muzzle ourselves? We already can’t use the N word Or the Q word and a few others that don’t come to mind right at this moment. I open carry, and the reason I do is not to look tough or look cool or because I live in fear. I do it because I have that right. So I wish all these people that are going to shoot whoever comes to their door or looks at them funny or all the other reason they come up with, would show how brave they really are and start exercising their right to open carry. And then maybe it would be alittle more excepted. Even in Wyoming! Trekker Out. Semper Paratus!

            • MT … I agree with with what you wrote above. My premise for not open carrying is more of a cost benefit analysis, which you probably won’t agree with either. I live in a city of 90 thousand people far east of Wyoming. Is the cost of me exercising my right; i.e. the regular run ins with the local constabulary and the real possibility of getting shot for it, given the current growing police state that we live in and remaining off of the the constabulary’s radar, that would result as a consequence of exercising my right, worth it to me? I wish public perception and the constabulary’s attitude toward open carry here was one of it being more acceptable. It’s not, currently and is not likely to change with all of the fear mongering and misinformation about guns that is hocked in the local press and the MSM on a daily basis. So I deal with the reality of the situation. I keeps me out of unwanted hassle.

              • And that’s exactly why we are where we are today….that attitude has been around for far too long.

                “I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!”

                Goldwater

        • Open carry has some tactical deficiencies,namely, they know you are armed and with what. I think CC is generally better for civilians.

        • Mountain Trekker, Everyone would rather wait till they come knocking on there door in the neighborhood. I say take it to there neighborhood. But like u said everyone has an excuse. Let the red thumbs come. But it’s the truth.

      6. Liberals are always generous with someone else’s money.

        • Sorry Walt,

          i didn’t see your post before posting just what you said above.

          Great minds think alike you know. heeeheeeheee.

          • yes they do!

      7. That’s a similar question I ask these Pro-Lifer Anti-Abortion Bible Thumpers. So how many of these unwanted Crack Babies have you adopted so far? You are Prolife right? They say, Oh I ain’t doing that. Then WTF/ do you think you need to be a control freak how people decide what they want to do with unwanted offspring. I would rather pay for family planing and birt control than pay to raise a crack baby from cradle to prison. NIMBY’s. Not in my back yard.

        • who
          you miss the whole point. I don’t think i should have to pay for their birth control or their abortion or anything to support them. why do I have to pay for anything , who gave them the right to take the earnings from my labor. stop generational welfare and make these people support themselves and their own kids.
          I don’t want to pay for any of it, they have no right to my labor

          • Anybody like me who pays taxes is paying for this whether you like it or not. Like I said if you pay taxes pay for birth control instead of prison. I would rather have these welfare baby machines get a mandatory hysterectomy and vasectomy.

          • Time for a rabid pro American movement in our nation.
            #1. Land mine our borders.
            #2. Deport illegals the first time they are found.
            #3. Imprison anyone who gives aid or comfort to illegals.
            #4. End all brodcasting in any language but English.
            #5. Execute any illegal on the second time they are caught in America. (Once this policy and that of land mining the borders becomes known, you will se a radical drop in illegals attempting to enter America).
            #6. Deploy preaditor drones along our southern border.
            #7. Terminate any political leader’s career who is pro amnesty.(Seizure of his or her assets in total, said assets to be used for deportation, execution and border security measures).
            #8. End all foreign aid period.
            #9. Corporations who moved production and jobs out of America, cannot sell their products in the USA.
            #10. Anyone abusing social programs like EBT, Section 8 Housing,AFDC,WIC……to be terminated.
            #11. Use government loand to start up new companies and corporations to produce everything we now import.
            #12. Congressional investigation of all oil companies for price fixing.
            #13. Build production facilities for the conversion of coal into gas as the Germans were doing in 1929.
            (This would render our dependance on foreign oil neutral within six months).
            #14. End all legal immigration from third world nations and bananna republics.

        • Man, you are a cold sob, WWTi.

          • no I love my kids and take care of them. the people that are cold are the ones that pop out kids and wont take responsibility for them and then call me names when I don’t want to support them

          • Yes sometimes reality sucks, the only way to deal with it is to identify the problem. These aholes that red thumbed me know damn well they would never adopt a crack baby. Hypocrites and your religious prolife control freak BS.

          • No actually WhoWuddaThunkIt is being quite the gentleman, nitrogen gas is colorless, odorless and tasteless……….I have a more final solution.
            It is not the producers job to support the lazy,indolent and shiftless. Surgical sterilization is much nicer than my preferred option.:)

        • How many have you taken in?

          • WWHTI doesn’t have to take them in.

            That’s the beauty of HIS double standard.

            • Its you conservative control freaks, anti abortion then against the mass immigration. Make up your mind hypocrites. I stand on – Abortion should be legal and keeps illegals out of the US. Got a problem with my beliefs?

              • Yes. Abortion is murder.

                • I would rather have 10,000 bastard ghetto kids aborted than to be forced to support them prenatal to prison to the grave. Da baby daddy and da baby momma had it let them care for it.

          • WWTI makes a mistake which is common among those who hate Christians –

            They suppose that Christianity is nothing more than “doing” good works or “keeping” rules. Christianity is first and last, a relationship with Jesus Christ which he initiates through the New Birth. That’s it.

            WWTI, a man can live his whole life doing good works every day, but if he never experiences the New Birth, he will die a lost man and Jesus will say to him, “I never knew you.

            Thank you for providing the forum so that could be explained.

            • Actually, people aren’t annoyed with anyone who does good works. We do, however, get annoyed when you tell us that we, too, have to believe in a myth just because you do. If it makes you feel safer to have a personal relationship with Zeus or Jesus or whoever go ahead, but stop trying to control the rest of us. We’ve got the Democrats trying to control us on one side and the Christians doing the same thing on the other. Leave us alone. Oh, and by the way, “New Birth” and “Born Again” actually refer to reincarnation.

            • Graph – You crack me up. You born agains think you can just wipe the slate clean for your evil ways and start over. Its like a Prostitute hooker taking an oath to be a virgin again. Sorry pal it does not work that way. Thanks for the laugh though. So does God talk to you? You hear little voices in your head? lol

            • Graph – You crack me up. You born agains think you can just wipe the slate clean for your evil ways and start over. Its like a Prostitute hooker taking an oath to be a virgin again. Sorry pal it does not work that way. Thanks for the laugh though. So does God talk to you? You hear little voices in your head? lol

          • Why should any taxpayer take in an illegal child,we are already forced to support every bastard ghetto child,and da baby momma. See EBT, WIC, SNAP, Section 8 Housing, AFDC, Medicade, Medicare,SSI disability checks, Earned income credit……….Im not giving them a damn thing.

        • WhoWudda, very good point, made my day.

          • Nobama, No doubt these religions freaks use the double standard all the time to justify their Hypocrisy. They just don’t like being called out for the world to see how twisted their thought process really is. And they are supposed to follow the truth. lol

            • They are entitled to their beliefs. Your hypocrisy is thinking you are better than they are while using insulting and bigoted language to demean them, as if that was some kind of an thoughtful argument instead of a sophomoric rant.

        • It’s not the same thing. The open borders people talk a lot about compassion but they don’t show any of it. Liberals like people in groups but they couldn’t care less about individuals. Conservatives see individuals and help individuals.

          I don’t want babies to be murdered but I can’t see adopting them myself. I help people by giving to the Salvation Army. There’s no hypocrisy there.

          • Barn Cat reply: In larger cities have group homes for kids, teens,& battered womens shelters,handicapped adults and also endorse donating to Sal Army or local run Rescue Miss. Charity begins at home (local community) first. Other comments: We have no country as borders are gone. Time is running out; the elite scumbags are running out of options, desperate men take desperate measures; few cards left for them to play folks. I’m over the hill, coasting all the way, young folks have no future unless a miracle happens and patriots unite and stand up. people just don’t care/understand incl community leaders and retirees. Politicians (99%) are traitors, ignoring their constituents, taking grant money.

          • These Pro-Lifers Conservatives are really in a conundrum right now. How can you be pro-life and then reject these kids at the boarder. According to the Babble they are all Gods children right. lol. Watch them squirm right now over this.. Hell they should be adopting them like Baby Jeebus in a manger. lol

            At least I am honest, I believe in Abortion rights and reject illegals at the boarder. Nobody should have kids if they cannot self sustain them. As an example 51% of my property taxes goes to Public schools, and I don’t even have any kids. Is that fair? Parents need to pay to raise their own kids including their education. Double their property taxes to pay for that. Having kids is a life style choice. If my lifestyle choice is boating, then you should pay for my boat gas. And in fact I will send you my annual boat gas bill and attach it to your property taxes. That would be just as fair, right. Enough of this communist socialist BS already.

            • I’m not a religious man, and I’m certainly not a “pro-lifer”, but you are speaking of things of which you are apparently very ignorant. The pro-life conservatives of which you speak are not in a conundrum. They expect the folks who gave birth to these kids to take care of them, but routinely take in kids for whom their parents have failed them. Our state has received several hundred children from this mess, and the vast majority of them have already been fostered…primarily by the religious folks you so vehemently bash. I also work with a company composed primarily of religious folks. These good people routinely go to places like Haiti to help with recovery efforts, and some have adopted kids they encountered there. I do not condone some of the stuff that comes out of the mouths of the extreme religious right, but I know for a fact that the religious people I know are far more likely to take in and care for these kids than any other demographic in our country. There is absolutely no conflict between a pro-life stance, and holding our elected officials responsible for controlling our borders.

              As for our tax system, there is not much about it that can be labeled fair, so go cry me a river, eh.

        • Your comment is idiotic. Apparently “unwanted offspring”–up to maybe, age 18?–can be “disposed of” in your world unless third parties support them. Not here.

        • Who Whudda, etc: Abortions are for medical, rape or incest which I/many others approve, but all other reasons I Q: why don’t these stuck in stupid whores/shack ups/barfly/drug addicts, get sterilized like the family pets?? Not rocket science and ins. pays incl. medicaid. Other comment: these hypocrite libtards should adopt a doz plus kids since they are filthy rich and endorse influx of refugees!! Obozo has lots of room in white house for fifty plus.

          • Laura, I hear ya. But these conservatives too who claim to be prolife, but not when it comes to all the illegal Baby Jeebuses crawling across the border. lol I kind of think Obama set this up to show the hypocrisy of the conservative pro-lifers. I don’t like any of this either, but just pointing out all the political angles to this mess. And I will also call people out to justify their belief systems and hypocrisy. Can’t have it both ways.

            • The illegals have already been born. No hypocrisy whatsoever.

              Their parents are responsible for them, in their own country.

              You’ve conflated your religious bigotry into a perception that doesn’t exist. Try thinking more clearly.

      8. If you stomp a liberal’s head hard enough will it cure them of their insanity?

        Or do they just need to move up a couple of tax brackets where they would feel the pain of taxation more?

        • Convulsive electro shock therapy 1904’s style has been shown to help liberals and welfare career moochers.
          If we whould stop allowing the unarmed invasion from the third world into America,we could recover.
          Why just look at the previous articles about Ebola.

      9. I was reading Florida already has like 3100 illegals sent to our state. And all of this is designed by Obama to set up this MS13 gangs in every city to help slaughter to polulations. The cops catch the thugs and send them to ICE, which has been ordered by Obama to just release them back into the public to commit more crimes. Cops are getting pretty disgusted seeing the same criminals show back up days later
        Obama is a DOMESTIC TERRORIST. WAKE UP AMERICA!! The End Game is for Obama to bring in the UN to secure the peace then Martial Law and Gun Confiscation. Total abandonment of the US Constitution. Hell No They Need to Go!! Prepare for battle b my friends. Its comming sooner than you think!! Let er’ Rip!!

        • I am no fan of the First Mulatto by any stretch, but 5 years ago, had I read a comment like yours – predicting that this evil rat was deliberately bringing in MS13 gangs to use in a race war to slaughter the native and traditional White American population, I would have said that such a notion was too preposterous to be believable.

          Not anymore. I now am convinced that this is exactly what is bouncing around inside this Communist’s wooly head. It all goes back to his mentor, Bill Ayers and his prediction that, in order to establish their Communist Utopian paradise in North America, at least 25 million White Americans would have to be killed because they would never go along with Communism.

          The guy is an extraordinarily dangerous psychopath, and every day he remains in power – this truth becomes more and more obvious for anyone to see.

          • Twenty five million? I suspect the reason for the two billion rounds of hollow point is that the plan is virtual complete eradication. It will be don through various means and the sick part is most will not even resist.

            • If it’s more than something like the 25 million number, there will be no one to work and pay for their Dystopia.

              Slavery will be the outcome for the ones who go along with the system.

          • BJ, I still like the Quote “The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their President” I don’t know who made this statement but they are 100% correct. Trekker Out.

            • Yeah, I remember hearing that back in 08 when the tool was elected 🙂

        • Wwti, we live in northern florida and hold meetings if you are interested. I’ve been reading your posts and pretty much agree with them. If you are interested you can contact me at vervclan at hotmail dot com. No militia.

          • Ydntk – I hear ya. Everybody needs to get organized. For the ignorant masses, still brainwashed by the MSM, they won’t know what hits them until they get that knock at the door, but it won’t be any knock. They will be busting the doors down and getting hauled off to the FEMA Camp if they refuse to turn in their guns. Or it could be MS13. They are brutal. Kids 12 to 21 killing for the fun of it. Down in Mexico they hung 20 people from a bridge overpass, with their arms and legs amputated. And this is what Obama is shipping to our cities in America. This is Unbelievable whats going on.

      10. It goes to show the blatant hypocrisy of the Liberal Cult.

        They accuse others of being racists while THEY are the biggest racists around.

        They accuse others of being selfish while THEY want everything given to them at your expense.

        They claim to stand up for people’s rights while THEY are the ones doing their damnedest to strip way any individual liberties we have.

        They claim to champion civil rights, but THEY are totalitarians.

        They claim to champion the poor, but THEY are elitists.

        • Modern liberals are very tolerant. Of people who agree with them.

          • Modern Christians are very tolerant. Of people who agree with them.

        • Tomahawk,

          You are so right. People always accuse others of what they themselves are guilty of. That is why the philandering husband is always the one who accuses his wife of cheating.

      11. Here’s a wild theory. Bear with me folks. Fact one, the U.S. population is aging rapidly. Fact two, our heavily socialized welfare system of approximately $222 trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities is built upon the Ponzi pyramid scheme of stealing from future generations to pay for current fiscal obligations. Fact three, like Japan, the U.S. population growth rate is in decline so there will be fewer and fewer babies being born (to steal from) to pay for the rapidly growing national debt and unfunded liabilities. You see where I’m going with this.

        Let me apologize in advance to our Latin forum members, no offense or disrespect intended in my next thoughts. I’m going to play the Devil’s Advocate, and for a moment try to see this problem and solution through Rahm Emanuel’s eyes. We’ve been trying to figure our how hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of Latin Americans could just pull up stakes and migrate north like salmon in Alaska during mating season. We know they are not refugees fleeing a natural disaster, a war torn ravaged country, so what exactly are they?

        Question: How do you breathe new life back into a socialist Ponzi scheme that is in danger of collapsing in on itself. Which population demographic would you chose and why? I suspect these aliens are meant to be future potential taxpayers invited here by Obama to boost the shrinking U.S. population rate in order to delay the aforementioned collapse farther into the future. This is the only logical answer that makes any sense to me. Culturally, Latinos tend to have much larger families than other American demographic groups. Latinos tend to procreate more often and at a significantly higher rate than other demographic groups.

        This is not meant to be an anti-Latino rant. This is fact. As reported on Huffington Post yesterday,

        >>”For a second year in a row, Univision has taken the top spot during the July sweep — making it the number prime time network in the country, beating out ABC, CBS, FOX and NBC.”<<

        What?!?! Wait just a minute! A Spanish speaking TV network surpassed all other English speaking networks in the U.S.? For the second time??? Whoa! This in addition to census projections which expect Latinos to become the majority demographic group in the U.S. by 2050. The writing on the wall could not be any clearer to me.

        This is long winded, but I believe this mass exodus of young people from Central America and Mexico could be the governments' deliberate attempt to recruit more young people to the U.S. to boost the numbers of future tax payers.

        The main problem with this plan is, like the existing 49% of Americans who are receiving federal benefits today, what if the newly arrived illegal immigrants decide not to be productive members of our society and decide to be gang member for argument sake? Then what? The problems have now increased exponentially. I just don't see any positive outcomes to the current Obama created immigration crisis. Just my rambling thoughts. Cheers.

        • Oh, there’s been pro-amnestias saying exactly that for years. Juan McVain himself was one of them.

        • As far as Unavision goes – remember that the vast majority of Spanish speaking illegals are not Internet users, since you have to speak English (they don’t) and be intelligent (they aren’t) to use the Net effectively in America. TV suits them much better. And there’s only one Spanish network, while there are several that use the English language.

        • Univision is doing so well because so many Latinos are sitting on their butts watching TV all day.

        • Univision is doing so well because so many Latinos are sitting on their butts watching TV all day.

        • YH , good post.
          well thought out .
          Let me throw out another idea.
          These immigrants (invaders) are intended to be future voters.
          With all the benies being handed out , they will certainly vote to protect their “free goods” .
          As that happens the country will move closer to a socialist republic and allowing the complete destruction of the constitution and bill of rights.

          Remember these people have no sence of national pride connected with the United States , they are not and never will have any national pride or understand what it is that makes the US exceptional .
          Things like common core will ensure that they never learn about their god given rights protected by our Bill of Rights and constitution .
          “Obama will take care of us.”

          • I pointed out the future (Democrat/free shit) voters theory on another article on this invasion several months ago, maybe it was almost a year ago. The article, at that time, was aimed at the increasing invasion into Texas, as I recall. I ended my comment by stating something to the effect that in another couple of years Texas would be turned into a blue state from a red state, ensuring that most if not all future presidents would be Democrats/Liberals. Got a lot of red thumbs and derisive howls from the Lonestar state commenters here. Turns out my theory may have had some truth to it.

          • hammer

            Good points. Hardly any Americans have any national pride anymore either.

            obama should be fed to the fish.

          • Let me throw out another idea/theory.

            TPTB/gov/Illuminatist, have a huge problem with their big city drug dealing gangs which are predominately black. The cia runners and smugglers want their “under the table” cut when the drugs are sold/distributed.

            Problem now is that most of the young punk black recruits selling at street level, get a big wad of cash built up and decide to phuck the dealers by spending those drug dollars on rides,rims,bling, and white whores.

            Hence, the gang bangers come hunting for the little two timing thiefs and another black kid bites the dust. the rides,rims, and bling (gold chains etc.) disappear.

            What if; TPTB are bringing in new workers for the CIA drug runners via the Central American illegals?

            Most of the older teenagers are known to have gang related tats when they arrive. They can blend right in amongst the neighborhoods and mexican gangs already in place.

            Just an idea that the “poor hispanic kid” thing, may be a cover for what is really going on here. TPTB, know the politicians don’t want to be seen as a ring leader in causing suffering to children, no matter where they come from, so; the mass exodus to USA continues.

            Inner city living will soon get tougher and tougher, especially if gov doesn’t figure out a way to keep the SS Disability coffer funded, after it runs out in three years, or less. If many of the big city recipients of SSD are like a sumbag in our community, then it is no wonder it is about depleted.

            This guy never worked for more than two years at a job that took out SS deductions from his paycheck, ever, He is now 55 years old and has been drawing SS disability for four years. He quit school when he was 14, and is a lazy piece of shit. Spent most of his life as a bum and thief, alcoholic and druggie, and is rewarded for being a blight on society by getting a check each month for $550.00 because he is stupid and lazy, not because he is disabled. He could work circles around most people, if he wanted to.

            The Shit will get real bad, and real quick, if those checks stop coming.

          • hammerhead,

            >>”Remember these people have no sence of national pride connected with the United States , they are not and never will have any national pride or understand what it is that makes the US exceptional.”<<

            You are spot on target! Excellent points. These newly arrived immigrants are leaving their homeland(s) at a time of relative peace as opposed to war time. Whatever problems they are running from at home tells me they have zero patriotism to their homelands. How patriotic can they be to America? They only know how to run from problems. They may fight in the voting booth to keep their free goodies when they get here, but that's about it.

            The original question which I formed was, "What if future federal spending increases and revenue shortfalls were far worse than even we anticipate? What would an undisciplined, unscrupulous governments' solution look like?"

            That's when it hit me, at 3 in the morning. It makes perfect sense when I look at Obama's intention of granting amnesty, issuing work permits, and driver's licenses to all these illegal aliens. If the argument is sound, based on what we're seeing now, the government needs as many little warm bodies in the U.S. right now.

            I don't know how the jobs are going to be created, but when has common sense ever stopped the government from putting the carriage before the horse?

        • The reason UniVision out ranked the major networks is because the spanish tv watcher has VERY limited choices. The English speaker has Fox, MSNBC, NBC, CBS, ABC, etc….

          If there was only a single English channel, the ratings would DWARF Univision.

          • Sophocles,

            Where I live in Florida, the cable TV providers offer dozens of Spanish speaking channels to choose from. I don’t know if that is true across the U.S., but there is no shortage of Latin TV channels where I live.

        • Even IF they decide not to continue their gang violence — which is a stretch of the imagination if ever there was one — how in the world are they going to support the retirement costs of 300 million Americans by making no more than minimum wage, if that? Even a 5th grader in America could do the math on THAT! And, even IF enough of them invaded to make stable the social security retirement payments for the rest of us, they would turn this country into the very same cesspool that they came from and NONE of us would want to retire here!

          Their countries are the pits that they are because they MADE them that way!!!

          They are illiterate. They have NO skills or they would have been employable in their own pit countries. They have NO education, to say the least, and in the overwhelming majority of cases probably lack the cognitive ability to BE educated due to malnutrition, self-abuse, chronic diseases, and plain old genes. The brain requires certain nutrients to develop the capacity to learn — these are street people.

          As for their brats, let’s get something straight. Their brats are NOT our problem — their brats are THEIR problem. And, let’s get something else straight: these mothers are NOT “single moms;” as are ALL “single moms,” they are fornicating sluts whose immoral and irresponsible behavior resulted in another human being to feed. These 3rd world sluts do not love their brats — they have them because it’s a ticket to something for themselves.

          Get them out of this country! NOW!!!

          • Anon,

            I agree with your outrage. All of America should be outraged, but they’re not. Why is that? The immorality espoused and celebrated by the progressives has completely conditioned Americans into the mindless, debaucherous, godless population we see today.

            Americans today cannot even recognize when they are being invaded, and see that the invasion is being facilitated by the President himself!

            What’s worse is that Americans are so far gone, and so mentally compromised that they are out protesting on behalf of the invaders and the lawless President who offends the Constitution each and every day he’s in office.

            I go back to a question in an earlier post, Who are they?

            We know they are not refugees from a natural disaster, or a war torn country. We know they are not here to see dear old mom and dad since they are being released in the middle of our towns and cities to just disappear and blend in.

            It’s almost as if they are being used to seed the population like a farmer spreading seeds in field. Seeds can grow good crops as well as dangerous crops. This will certainly not be a good crop.

            We may not know exactly who they are, or what their purpose is here, but we know what they are not. They are not refugees, they are not seeking relatives in the U.S., and they are not Americans. They are a totally unknown entity and they have to leave.

        • That’s a pretty good assessment, YH. If they are working with a SSN (fake or otherwise) the employer will deduct FICA and Medicare no matter what they claim on their W4s. It goes into the system no matter what.

          BTW, most illegal immigrants are not qualified for the line of bennies without a green card…although I think they are eligible for some emergency medical. And they certainly are not eligible to vote until they become a citizen. And if they become a citizen, they should have that right.

          I fail to see much of a difference in so called “liberal” elected officials and so called “conservative” elected officials. One side steals my labor for welfare and bankers and the other side steals it for warfare and bankers. But for one or two, they all suck.

          • JRS,

            >>”BTW, most illegal immigrants are not qualified for the line of bennies without a green card…although I think they are eligible for some emergency medical.”<>”And they certainly are not eligible to vote until they become a citizen. And if they become a citizen, they should have that right.”<<

            It seems to be getting easier to cast a vote each election. Every year dead people seem to rising from the grave to vote for their favorite progressive candidates. I can't say if Voodoo may be involved somehow, but I don't think it would be an insurmountable obstacle to get illegal aliens to cast their votes. Cheers.

          • JRS,

            Somehow my reply became badly corrupted during transmission.

            • Nah…I get your point about the voting, but I’m not sure the “fake” voters really sway the final results that much.

              • Don’t be so sure.

        • Your theory is good on the surface, however, the costs of allowing the illegals into the USA, far outweigh any intentional tax income later on. For instance, the illegals send home millions of dollars, which is removed from our economic cycle. Second like all ponzie schemes, social security is unfix-able. Who’s going to pay for the illegals when they get older ?

          • They will never make enough money to pay the taxes for the benefits they receive. Ever. No way. They are a net drain on society and the treasury.

            Combine the millions of dollars sent to Mexico and other home countries, completely lost to our economy, imported goods being sold to their communities in the tiendas, EIC tax credits, rental assistance, tuitions, increased need for schools, interpreters, courts, police, jailors, public facilities for all of it, lost employment, wage depression, fraud of all types, crime of all types, automobile accidents, traffic congestion, insurance rates, depletion of natural resources, increased carbon footprints, and so on, ad nauseum.

            No one can tell me that when Alfonso pays sales tax on a sack of groceries at the local tienda or rents some dump house that he is doing our economy any good whatsoever.

        • “…I suspect these aliens are meant to be future potential taxpayers invited here by Obama to boost the shrinking U.S. population rate…”

          There can’t be any more “potential taxpayers” WITHOUT FUTURE JOBS FOR THEM TO PAY TAXES FROM. We don’t have enough jobs for our own people, much less millions more.

          Since taxes are simply stolen from your wages automatically and without regard to race or gender, the argument that mexicans will pay taxes that white people won’t, is ridiculous.

          The idea that obama is trying to “boost the population” is also ridiculous. They’re fixing to abandon half of the lower western states due to the water shortage. When the taps finally do run dry, half of California, Nevada and a couple of other states will become uninhabitable….

          So where’re we gonna pile them all?

          No. I doubt they’re additions. More likely, they’re REPLACEMENTS.

        • You see the Obama and his Liberal Minions think it is perfectly A-OK for these illegals to come to the U.S. seeking a better life, but fail to realize this is at the expense of Legal Americans and the middle class, who life is in no way enhanced or getting better because of this illegal sham.

        • They have the bigger families since they collect benefits under several different names and pay no taxes. That will all change once they get in the system. besides just how much tax revenue will be generated from a barely literate population? Even less than todays pays.

      12. If you like your illegal immigrant you can keep him,but you must pay to house,clothe,feed and educate him.

        • and take full responsibility for whatever he gets into when he gets out of the yard…

        • Nightshiftsucks says:
          Comment ID: 3195696
          August 2, 2014 at 3:49 am If you like your illegal immigrant you can keep him,but you must pay to house,clothe,feed and educate him.

          I have a way where none of these things would be needed,they would never need food, clothing, shelter or medical care! 🙂

      13. YOU GOT TO BE SHITTING ME WHAT A BUNCH OF B.S.

      14. Hmmm – actually I wouldn’t have a problem taking a teen/child into my home but for one thing – it would be considered an open invite to destroy any semblance of privacy or control over my own household on the part of the authorities. I’m in the UK and many of my alternative lifestyle choices such as gardening, home school and keeping bantams would doubtless far foul of the social worker attached to the immigrant child that would feel free to “pop in” just as we were sitting down to a dinner the kids helped to cook. (God forbid I teach that child life skills!)

        In short, my compassion for the unwitting pawns & victims in this latest scam is cut abruptly short by desire to detach from a crumbling system where the idiots have taken charge of the village. My primary responsibility is to protect my own kid from the poison cloud that swirls around us all.

      15. German officer to serve as U.S. Army Europe’s chief of staff

        A German Army brigadier general who recently served with NATO forces in Afghanistan is assuming duties as the chief of staff of U. S. Army Europe, the first time a non-American officer has held that position.
        Brig. Gen. Markus Laubenthal, most recently the commander of Germany’s 12th Panzer Brigade in Amberg, and chief of staff of Regional Command North, International Security Assistance Force Afghanistan, will be stationed at USAREUR headquarters, Wiesbaden, Germany. He could report to duty as early as Monday.
        Laubenthal also has served as military assistant to the deputy commander of operations and assistant chief of staff of operations for NATO forces in Kosovo.
        As the major staff assistant to USAREUR commander Lt. Gen. Donald Campbell, Laubenthal will synchronize the command’s staff activities much as American predecessors have in the past.
        “This is a bold and major step forward in USAREUR’s commitment to operating in a multinational environment with our German allies,” said Campbell.
        “U. S. and German senior military leaders have been serving together in NATO’s International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan for years. Sustaining the shared capability from this experience will benefit both the U. S. and German armies,” said Campbell who has headed the Army’s largest and oldest overseas command since 2012.
        Laubenthal’ s assignment comes at a time of strained relations between the U.S. and Germany as a result of disclosures over the past year that the National Security Agency, and more recently the Central Intelligence Agency, had been conducting information gathering operations against German citizens, to include Chancellor Angela Merkel.
        Army sources in Europe said the first-ever assignment of a German general to the USAREUR staff is unrelated to the political furor over the spying revelations, but does reflect the increased importance of multinational operations in NATO.
        Officials said the addition of a German general officer to the USAREUR staff has been planned for several months, and is part of an American effort to give a more multi-national flavor to its major overseas commands.

        New post on Now The End Begins
        Obama Places German Foreign Commander In Charge Of U.S. Army Europe
        by NTEB News Desk

        Another Obama first in destroying our national sovereignty
        “‘Tis our true policy to steer clear of permanent Alliances, with any portion of the foreign world.” George Washington, Farewell Address, September 19, 1796
        A German Army brigadier general who recently served with NATO forces in Afghanistan is assuming duties as the chief of staff of U. S. Army Europe, the first time a non-American officer has held that position.

        Army sources in Europe said the first-ever assignment of a German general to the USAREUR staff is unrelated to the political furor over the spying revelations, but does reflect the increased importance of multinational operations in NATO.
        Brig. Gen. Markus Laubenthal, most recently the commander of Germany’s 12th Panzer Brigade in Amberg, and chief of staff of Regional Command North, International Security Assistance Force Afghanistan, will be stationed at USAREUR headquarters, Wiesbaden, Germany. He could report to duty as early as Monday.
        Laubenthal also has served as military assistant to the deputy commander of operations and assistant chief of staff of operations for NATO forces in Kosovo.

        River Rat at the ready!!! NOMI///MOLON LABE!!
        TSORIITA!!

      16. MASSACHUSETTS POLICE CHIEFS GET VETO OVER RIFLES, SHOTGUNS
        Lawmakers grant authority to turn down residents’ request to purchase
        Published: 8 hours ago
        (Breitbart) On July 25 Breitbart News reported that Massachusetts police chiefs wanted “sole discretion” over who can purchase a long gun, be it a rifle or a shotgun.
        On August 1 state lawmakers passed a bill that gives police chiefs such discretion.
        According to Reuters, police chiefs already had final say on would-be handgun purchasers, and the new law would extend that by providing them with “the authority to turn down a resident’s request to buy a rifle or shotgun.”

        Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/massachusetts-police-chiefs-get-veto-over-rifles-shotguns/#0t5YifuR2Jf8fbP0.99

        River Rat at the ready!!! NOMI///MOLON LABE!!
        TSORIITA!!

        • They just lost their second amendment. period. It is by all intents and purposes, GONE in Massachusetts.

        • btw/ Reuters, AP(AssociatedPress), Washington Post, NY Times, all Jewish Tribal Owned news agencies. All Pro-NWO anti-gun, and love to post articles that strip Americans of their rights. What that Police Chief thinks he is a King??, MA is not a dictatorship, as he gets to decide who gets what. F-that. Impeach the Chief if he fails to uphold the constitution he took a sworn oath to defend.

        • When I saw this posted the other day on one of the MA rags websites that I frequent , I was even more pleased that I moved out of that shit hole of regulation, taxes and corruption 35+ years ago. The police chiefs and pol’s are very pleased with themselves that they’ve screwed over the prol’s again.

          I’m thinking that this law could possibly be overturned in federal court, but definitely not in state court. The judges there are as corrupt as the pol’s that appoint them.

        • Unconstitutional. The courts have already rules that May Issue laws that do nothing but prevent citizens from obtaining guns or permits are illegal.

          Expect them to spend a few years running this through the court system, which is exactly what they planned.

      17. As usual they want others to pay for their acts of kindness. The wealthy have always been good at raising money, but not to good at giving money. The wife and I were at Wally’s the other day and were asked at checkout for a donation for the children’s hospital. There was a sign on the wall taking credit for Walmart’s charity to the community. They ask for donations from customers then take credit for them. I wonder if they get a tax break?

        • Any member of the Walton family could write a check and pay for a hospital themselves and not miss the money.

      18. OK,liked the ending of video,pretty funny!No,I would not take on children,went to great medical lengths to make sure I did not “procreate”,am not parent material.That said,would take in 2-4 footed orphans in tough times but am talking end of the world ect.,not just challenging times.These folks being used as pawns,sent em home but instill in em perhaps spirit of revolution,it is not just our country that needs one or in our case another one.

      19. Liberals like to be liberal until it personally effects them! Bunch of hypocrites! The feds are offering 7 grand to house one of these infested illegals, thing is you probably won’t live long enough to collect!

        • KM,
          There are 3 families down the street from me they just arrived about a month ago that 7 grand is not a rumor it is a fact . When the average rent here is about 1200 to 1800 a month who would you rather rent to? Along with a housing shortage this not helping. My neighbor a retired NJ State police Officer who is from Puerto Rico tried to talk to the. Woman in one house in Spanish , then switched to Portuguese when she did not understand . It seems all those new comers speak some kind of idiginouse dialect of their home country ( Honduras Mosquito coast Indians )
          What are you going to do with these people ? I remember in the 70’s the Monteguards from Laos
          And the trouble they had assimilating and at least the “boat people” were mostly literate , both parties were industrious and greatful to be here they both fled real tyranny and to Mention Immigrated here LEGALLY.

          Semper Fi 8541

        • Yep, all those churches and charities taking them in out of the goodness of their hearts? No, they’re getting paid for it, $7,000 a month.

          Now we know how much some folks will sell out their country for.

      20. Make it mandatory that liberals have to take in an immigrant or two. Watch the Democratic party disappear.

        • Want to end all this crap. Let taxpayers decide how their tax payments are applied. On your 1040 Tax return choose the program you want your tax money to go to. If you like parks your money goes to the parks system. If you like war then designate your tax payment to the war fund. You want better highways go to the Dept of Transportation. What we have now is Taxation with NO Representation and all our Tax money goes into a big pot for the psychopaths in congress to waste for hefty government contracts for their buddies. The rest of us get NO benefit what so ever.

          • WWTI, you have no choice where your tax money goes. You do have a choice whether to donate your tax refund to a particular program, though, but who in their right mind would donate any money to any government program?

          • I want all of my tax money to go towards waxing the Admirals cars at the Pentagon.

            Now, see just how stupid an idea this is?

            Vote them out of office if you want something different.

      21. Dems v Reps, Conservative v Labour, Black v White – divide and conquer working much on here? It certainly seems so.

        These kids are just pawns of a very sadistic grand plan. I’d happily take one in (just as I’d hope someone would be kind enough to guide and protect my own child till he was strong enough to make his own way in the world). What I wouldn’t do is accept the state pieces of silver complete with the stamp of Judas upon them. That would be to KNOWINGLY aid the devils at the top. My intention would be to help the child concern gain the skills needed to eventually survive out there, maybe even to earn enough by honest means to return to his family someday.

        I’m still not hearing the parents story behind these mass migrations of young people. Where are the parental voices? As a mother myself the only scenarios in which I can envisage sending my child/teen to a hostile strange land, totally dependent upon the whims of an alien government are just too horrific to imagine. Will we hear in years to come of a mass round of Pinochet or Stalin style disappearances that drove a generation to flee? What drives them to such a desperate act? There’s another story behind and beyond what we’ve heard to date – lots of these kids are NOT Mexican but from much, much further afield.

        I’m asking questions because just as with the official Ebola story some of the pieces of the jigsaw are not aligning in my head when I attempt to assess the available information to date. I don’t like glaring holes in the tale I’m told.

      22. In other news feel safer already!A leaked version which is clear/good copy of the new movie Expendables 3 is out on the net before the August release date,luckily,homeland insecurity is investigating the matter,this says to me we as a country are very safe when the insecurity squad has time to look into things like this!These same idiots tried wiping out movie streaming sites,was a funny version of whack a mole game,which insecurity lost completely!

      23. I wouldn’t mind taking on a couple of them, I need someone to pull weeds, wash dishes, vacume, chop wood,clean house, and like he said they don’t eat much.

        • good habits are learned at home…

      24. Let’s all bug out to Central America. I’ve heard there’s lots of room now since millions have migrated north.

      25. For liberals their great ideas always apply to others, never themselves (for their own good, of course).

        Idiots.

      26. I am Openly Christian.

      27. Liberalism is a mental disorder

        • So is being homosexual or religious.

      28. These “children” are almost all teenagers. They will be the cannon fodder in the future war our corrupt govt is stirring up right now. Citizenship for service is the carrot. They would also have no problem imposing tyranny on real Americans who know what basic human rights and liberty are all about. These “children” will most likely be the jackbooted thugs who will take your guns and your freedoms.

        • Burt,I basically agree excepting the part where the “children” disarm/imprison us,that is where they die.

      29. One thing for sure, we will end up footing the bill for these illegals. Absolutely nothing we can do at this point. How we pay is another story altogether.

        If the rednek were prez…
        1) lock the friggin’ border down from one end to the other. By executive order, US Army. The Great Wall of America don’t seem to be working very well. We need boots on the ground. Deploy. The threat of economic catastrophe is so dire it both warrants and justifies this action. The threat is so great it makes what Osama did to us look like a poodle attack vs a grizzly attack.
        Plug the hole, no more come in. Huge cost here but well worth the money spent. All the money we spend on this circulates in the US economy BTW.
        2)make the economics of going home greater than staying here. Give every illegal a prepaid CC only good in their home country. $5K and we’ll pay for the ride home. 19MM illegals @ $5k ea = $95MM. Heck let’s give them $10K @ $190MM cost. A drop in the bucket for us. A year or two’s worth of food in their home country. Give them incentive to go home. The alternative is working on a prison farm for free until we deport. If they come back illegally, prison farm.
        3)No more citizenship granted to babies born in the US unless their parents are citizens.

        • Red,good start for this problem,that said,much more will need to be done in this country,eh…..,even more work…..,grumble/grumble/sigh!

        • This wouldn’t be as big a problem today if the 1986 amnesty bill had been followed to the letter by building a fence along the entire southern border. Doesn’t work you say? The fence that was built in SoCal from the Pacific to the AZ border has reportedly reduced further illegal border jumpers by 95% from what used to be an as bad a problem as we have today.

          [Yah, I know, now they tunnel under it, but they only use the tunnels for drug smuggling ;^). After all, we can’t just cut off the CIA’s funding source can we?(sarc)]

          • put a charge on the fence, that debilitates you and the fence would work 100%

        • Yeah, how stupid is that??

          Give every illegal a prepaid CC only good in their home country. $5K and we’ll pay for the ride home

          Hey, just one MORE incentive to cross the border!! 🙁

          • That’s why ya lock the border down first Mr..

        • The fact that even after 0/11 it was business as usual should tell you all you need to know about what is planned. We have no voice and are just barely tolerated.

      30. Well, you could always raise them up to dedicated servants, like maids and gardeners until they become the majority. Then we would provide those services for them.

      31. ht tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7oI1pTejUg&feature=trueview-instream

        • probably bad link above , sorry

          ht tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIXwQVFt8Ho#t=87

          • yeah this one works ..drone hunter

      32. Just to let you guys know. My “preps” are being tested today. Toledo water is contaminated. stores are out of water. warnings to “avoid touching” the water. very interesting to watch people scramble for water.. window to what a real and long term wtshtf would look like. As prepared as I thought I was, realization that I’m truly NOT! wake up call for many I hope.

      33. Sawed-Off Shotgun Kill

        The sawed-off double barrel shotgun is rarely considered for assassination work
        but the 12 gauge side-by-side or over-and-under loaded with buckshot cartridges will put
        as many pellet’s in a person as a S.M.G can do in full-auto.

        At the ranges mentioned
        with the handguns, the shotgun is truly an effective weapon. Normally the barrels are cut
        off just in front of the forestock and at the butt remains just behind the pistol grip.

      34. i’ll take a couple i need some new slave labor !!! hell mite even get a tax break!! ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!! people need to learn what it means to fight for whats yours!!!! i’m so sick of all the sheep walking around time for the wolfs!!

      35. i met this man and his staff once , he is a good honest person and cares about people , but is afraid to really speak the truth against the shadow government .

        VERMONT: Sen. Bernie Sanders: America is Speeding Toward Oligarchy

        REALLY?

        WHO KNEW?

        U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) a warning about America’s not-too-distant future. Plus, will the self-described democratic-socialist make a White House bid? And, his solution for ‘corporate deserters,’ who flee America to avoid taxes.

        http://rt.com/shows/politicking-larry-king/175376-bernie-sanders-america-oligarchy/

      36. House Passes “Mean-Spirited” Immigration Bill, Takes Off For 5 Week Vacation; Obama Will Veto
        (from ZeroHedge site)

        Last night, minutes before the most ineffectual Congress in US history took off for a well-deserved 5 week vacation, the republican-controlled House escalated the immigration duel with Obama, and passed what democrats called “mean-spirited” border legislation late Friday which as Politico reported was “full of political red meat for their conservative base, including revisions to a 2008 anti-trafficking law and more money for the National Guard.”

        And just to make sure that immigration is a key divisive topic during the midterm elections, one which further splits the nation along predominantly ethnic lines, they also passed a bill to rein in Obama’s program to shield undocumented immigrants from deportations.

      37. Information post. License plate readers. License plate readers are available to more than just the police. Some tow truck companies are scanning plates as the trucks drive down the street. Also, marketers are scanning and selling the info. The info collected by these two sources is entered into the Fusion Center data base and is available to any police department and Homeland Security and the NSA. It’s possible that this info is accessed by other unknown agencies, foreign or domestic. A friend of mine is a homicide investigator and he used the tow truck companies info to locate an offenders vehicle. My problem with the data gathering is the abuse of the info for political purposes. There is no limit for potential abuse by the governments.

      38. Shame on those hypocritical libs. They are so unlike all those conservative bible thumpers who welcomed such folk into their homes with open arms. Keep stoking the factionalism, morons, it will blow up in your face.

      39. The Indians housed us? They didn’t have to, but they did to their own downfall. We obliterated them! I guess we don’t want it to come back and roost on us? We think they may do the same? We almost wiped the Natives out of existence. To this day they are very few in number and most Americans go about not knowing the history that we created. The trail of tears, is not just a myth. These trails were made all around the nation. We took these lands from others and gained and benefited from their misfortune of having helped us those first few colony’s that we wanted to create away from the Queen. I just came from a Casino in a reservation over in West TX, the Kickapoo tribe run it or live on the reservation. You know that these people are not originally from here, we Anglos chased them south from Wisconsin, we murdered them and wanted to wipe them out completely. They had to run for their lives and they headed to Mexico to escape from us murdering them. Once down there they were not wanted by the local Mexican tribes and they had to come back just across the border, but not too far north. To not be noticed by the white man, they remained like this living under bridges and in public lands until the 1960’s when the government finally noticed what had happen to these people, and they gave them a piece of shit land in the desert and told them they could live on it. This is a common thing for white people to do, take others lands, go into a place under the guise of bringing religion. A God who is white and his son is blue eyed and blonde and you must kneel to him to receive mercy of any kind. Redemption comes from your white Jesus B.S. The Spanish did exactly the same thing to the Indians in Mexico and Central and South America. The only difference was that their must have been a shortage of white women, because they started breeding with the women and created Mestizos. The mixed race of people that is most of the Americas starting from the Southwest of America all the way South to South America. If their would have been a shortage of white women in America most of you would have brown skin too! Anyway folks STFU! You ass holes always think your right about everything, you can kiss my lilly white ass, read an old history book and look at what we have done to others and how we have affected the world around us and then keep you dam mouth shut and realize we had a hand in just about everything. We have created so much shit all around the world, almost no place on earth where we have not hurt someone else.

        • Every culture and race on this planet stole from, and subjugated other races and cultures. To lay this bullshit only atthe feet of the “white man”, shows your lack of logic, and historical understanding. If the Indian tribes united, instead of fighting each other, they would have easily prevented the colonists from gaining a foothold in North and South America. Please take your liberal cry fest, to some other website.

          • I wonder if those Indians standing there out-screaming people in Murrieta, regret those signs they held “You are on stolen Indian and Mexican land”…wonder how many illegals are heading to their rescue, to help them fight to keep their lands.

            • Indians might want to let the Navajo’s give out some history lesson’s from their people before they choose sides in this war.

              The Spanish set up settlements around Albuquerque. Enslaved the Indians. Did all forms of meanness to convert these poor Indians to Catholicism. If they tried to escape, the Spaniards would cut their Achilles tendon crippling them for life. Just because they wouldn’t convert.

              So these days Indians do have land, methods to create income and a monthly check from Uncle Sam. For the most part, I’m sure there are exceptions, Indian land is sovereign. Seems their doing OK.

              Hope all these people are wise when it comes time to pick which side their on.

              http://nativeamericannetroots.net/diary/1229

      40. This child immigration thing is a ruse to a much larger problem. There are WAY more illegals crossing the border than the “children”. Have you seen the photos of the “children”? They look like young adults to me! The should not step into this country, but be loaded onto C=130s and returned to sender. Seal the border with military, period! You cross more than once, welcome to the prison farm, where if you dont work you dont eat. Plus those that are here and have been here for many years, either become a citizen or go back where you came from. Time to make this country what it once was Free and Proud!

      41. DR.H MD. SHARE’S MY MUTAGENIC VIRAL COMBINATION CONCERNS OF WHAT HE HAS RIGHTLY CALLED ‘DUENGEBOLA’- THEY KNEW AND PLANNED THIS RELEASE ALL ALONG!
        DEAR STEVE, I WOULD LIKE TO INFORM YOU AND YOUR AUDIENCE OF THE CURRENT STATE OF AFFAIRS REGARDING THIS EBOLA (EVILA), THREAT AND I CAN CLEARLY STATE THE FOLLOWING:

        1.-IT IS REAL AND IT WILL BECOME A PANDEMIC!…..
        2.-WE ARE UTTERLY UNPREPARED IN THE MEDICAL FIELD TO TAKE CARE OF PATIENTS INFECTED WITH EBOLA.
        3.-HOSPITALS , INCLUDING THE ONE THAT I WORK AT, DO NOT HAVE A CLUE ON HOW TO CONFRONT THIS PROBLEM AND
        THEY ARE NOT RECEIVING ADEQUATE GUIDANCE FROM LOCAL HEALTH AUTHORITIES NOR FROM THE CDC.
        4.-MEDICAL SUPPLIES WILL NOT LAST LONG IN THE CONTEXT OF RECENT SHORTAGES OF THESE NATION WIDE.
        5.-THE NUMBER OF VENTILATORS (RESPIRATORS), TO ASSIST PEOPLE WITH COMPROMISED LUNG FUNCTION ARE CRITICALLY
        LOW, AT THE SAME TIME THAT THEY HAVE BEEN FIRING RESPIRATORY THERAPIST ALL OVER THE COUNTRY BECAUSE
        MEDICARE DECIDED THAT THEY WOULD NOT PAY ANY LONGER FOR THEIR SERVICES (WOW!…..). THEY MUST OF KNOWN
        ABOUT THE EBOLA OUTBREAK WHEN THEY DECIDED TO LET THEM GO JUST TO MAKE MATTERS WORSE.
        6.-DENGUE FEVER IS STILL ACTIVELY INFECTING PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY MAINLY IN THE SOUTHERN STATES, WE HAVE TO
        KEEP IN MIND THAT TRANSMISSION OF DENGUE IS BY THE SAME MOSQUITO THAN THE ONE THAT TRANSMITS EBOLA VIRUS
        SO NOW WE HAVE AN ADDED AND NOT SURVIVABLE NEW COMBO OF DISEASES THAT I WOULD DARE TO CALL DENGUEBOLA.
        7.-FLU SEASON IS AROUND THE CORNER AND ALSO HIGHLY INFECTIOUS AND WITH CERTAIN STRAINS THAT ARE VERY AGGRESSIVE
        THIS TOGETHER WITH EBOLA WOULD BE UNHEARD OF AND AGAIN NO POSSIBILITY OF SURVIVING THESE IF YOU ARE
        INFECTED WITH TWO AGENTS NO MATTER HOW HEALTHY YOU ARE (FLUBOLA). THIS WILL MAKE THE DIAGNOSIS OF EITHER ONE EVEN MORE DIFFICULT SINCE THEY SHARE VERY SIMILAR SYMPTOMS AND BY THE TIME YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT TYPE OF INFECTION THE PATIENT HAS, EBOLA HAS ALREADY TAKEN OVER YOUR LIFE. THE CURRENT TEST FOR FLU ARE NOT HIGHLY SENSITIVE CERTAINLY NOT IN THE FIRST FEW DAYS OF THE DISEASE,THIS TAKES AWAY PRECIOUS TIME, MAKES US TREAT EVERY FLU LIKE ILLNESS AS IF IT WAS EBOLA AND DRAINS EVEN MORE THE LIMITED RESOURCES AVAILABLE ASIDE FROM CREATING MORE PUBLIC PANIC. THE SOCIAL, ECONOMIC AND POLITICAL REPERCUSSIONS IN THE SETTING OF AN ALREADY AGONIZING NATION AS YOU CAN SEE ARE ENORMOUS… NO BETTER DESIGNED WEAPON THAN THIS AH!..
        8.-YOU CAN BET YOUR MARBLES THAT THE PATIENT FROM AFRICA THAT WAS BEING FLOWN IN FROM AFRICA WAS ALREADY
        IN ATLANTA BY THE TIME THEY TOLD US OF SUCH PLANS AND THIS IS NOT WHAT A WORLD LEADING INSTITUTION LIKE
        THE CDC SHOULD BE DOING IT IS OUTRAGES AND UNNECESSARY UNLESS THEY WANT TO TWEAK THE VIRUS AND MAKE IT
        EVEN MORE DEADLY, THAT IS ALWAYS A POSSIBILITY.
        9.-THE SOUTHERN BORDER IS A DECOY AND IT IS NOT BEING DONE TO LET ALIENS IN SO THEY CAN VOTE DEMOCRATIC, THERE
        WILL BE NO ELECTIONS IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND THEY KNOW THIS WELL SO THE TRUE REASONS ARE OTHERS.
        10.-PEOPLE NEED TO PREPARE ON THEIR OWN FOR THIS AND LOOK INTO ALTERNATIVES SUCH AS NANO SILVER AND OTHER
        NUTRIENTS THAT DESPITE WHAT MAINSTREAM SCIENCE SAY ABOUT THEM THEY DO WORK AND CAN POTENTIALLY SAVE
        LOTS OF LIVES, OBVIOUSLY THE WILL TRY TO STOP DOCTORS FROM USING THEM WITH THEIR PATIENTS ARGUING THAT
        THEY ARE NOT EVIDENCE BASED MEDICINE (ANOTHER TACTIC TO MAKE THIS EVEN WORSE). MEDICAL MARTIAL LAW WILL NOT
        ONLY TAKE PLACE BUT IT WILL BE A NECESSITY THAT PEOPLE WILL GLADLY WELCOME AND NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND THE DARK
        AND “EVILA” REASONS BEHIND IT.

        FINALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE FOR NOT BEING ABLE AS A DOCTOR TO STOP SOMETHING LIKE THIS SPREADING AND FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO AVOID THE MILLIONS OF DEATHS THAT WILL OCCUR IN THE NEAR FUTURE. MAY GOD JUDGE US ALREADY CONFESSED. STEVE I WILL PROVIDE YOU WITH UPDATES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND MAY GOD BLESS US ALL. H…

        Aug 2, 2014

        • “STOP SHOUTING!!!”

          • Stop being a dip shit, this thing is very serious, and many will die from it! Due to many americans eating a horrible diet, their immune systems are very compromised, which means it will hit these people the hardest. Obviously the young and old alike!

            Invest in detox clays for internal and external use, colloidal silver (medical grade only), and if you can afford it, cannabis oil from Dr. Liebows site.

          • Let him shout this once…he knows of what he speaks.

        • I would like to read your post, but I cannot read all caps.

        • Regarding Point #10: Vitamin D offers a well established protective effect to viral attacks. It’s impossible to say if it will help with Ebola but theoretically it should. The key is to get your 25(OH)D blood test results above 50 nanograms per milliliter, which usually takes around 2 to 3 months of heavy supplementation. To reach that blood level, most people need around 5000 international units (IU) or more. It’s extremely inexpensive, very safe, and it helps with all sorts of medical problems including some which are quite serious. To me it seems like a cheap insurance policy.

      42. Should probably take all the kids, and have a tent city of sorts, right there on the White House lawn………

        Then Obozo could swap stories with the kids, and tell them his immigration woes, when he came to the US as a Foreign student………..it would be a tearjerker…..

      43. “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety”

        Benjamin Franklin

      44. if in need of a international credit card for privacy of online purchases in amerika check out…

        http://www.unionpayintl.com/en/index.shtml

        russia just switched to it for the entire country from visa mastercard for card services. it’s china based.

      45. A poster on a forum has a friend who is a virologist and writes this about the Ebola outbreak. Take it FWIW.
        (I sincerely hope that this is all B.S.)

        The reason the media keeps repeating that mission medicine groups are pulling out is because they’ve never seen an outbreak in this scale before. Why they aren’t flying this patient to Fort Detrick containment facility first before Emory is unknown to me other than Emory and CDC have sequencing capabilities and Fort Detrick does not. I received a tweet from a colleague virologist in the field, Africa. His comment, “Much much worse than media is saying…. coming home”. I ask…..why wouldn’t they set up shop inside the massive BSL 4 facility at CDC? Emory? This virus has a 65% mortality rate not 80% which means it has traded off pathogenesis for the ability to “jump” i.e. move from patient to patient. Currently all that is known about this virus is that Blood or body fluid to mucus membrane direct contact, however, I now question that guideline recommendation for safe handling because the DOCTOR and NURSES who went straight away to the HOT ZONE are now infected and 2 nurses dead already that were trained to handle this virus infection in patients with “barrier protection” as recommended by CDC.

        Bottom line: I believe this virus is traveling on micro droplets of lung water vapor thus the virus is airborne and bio-safety training for airborne virus means RESPIRATORS of which none of the personal on site are wearing and people are coming home from service in Africa who won’t know they are infected. This virus has a 21 day infectivity period. All virus in this class are limited for spreading and jumping because Ebola, Marburg, Lasa etc all KILL their host too fast i.e. 7-10 days and that includes primary infection to crash and bleed out. This virus is 21-30 days? Huge difference in number of people an infected person can get close to with an incubation of 21-30 days vs 7-10. I believe this virus is a mutant thus reason they are taking the patient to Emory so the CDC and Emory labs can sequence it. Fort Detrick does not have that capability. Call me crazy but I’m not leaving it to chance even with a minute chance of it happening. Be prepared my friend!

        • “Emory and CDC have sequencing capabilities and Fort Detrick does not.”

          If you believe that one, I’ve got a bridge in California I’ll sell you—and even throw in the light bulbs for free!

      46. Damn hypocrites.
        If it was up to me I would send them all back to Mexico and let them sort it out.
        Obullshit and his demons want us to take care of these people (only around 5% are children). Hells bells I don’t have enough money to do things with my own grandkids.
        Call me what you may, but I say SEND THEM BACK!!!!!!!!!!
        What next an influx from Africa, or Ukraine, Mid East? We can’t take care of them all. When will IDIOTS in DC figure this out. (Not until there is no middle class) (I just answered my own question.)
        When Obullshit signs the order to legalize these turds we are finished as a country.
        THIS MAY BE WHY AND HOW THE CIVIL WAR BEGINS!!!!
        AIM SMALL MISS SMALL
        Sgt.

        • Sarge, I heard Avi Lipkin say one time that he thought Hussein Obama would open the doors to a flood of muslim refugees from the middle east.

          He still might do that one day, allowing millions of them easy entrance to the US.

          • GRAF:
            I forgot about that. Thanks for bring it up!
            Sgt.

        • They are not mexicans, they are basically from hell holes of south america and those areas. Honduras, Guatemala, Ecquador, ect.

          • KM
            Do you for one moment think that they are being BEAMED to the US border. They are being brought form their homes through Mexico.
            Stop them at the border NOW before we have more problems here than we can handle.
            I don’t give a damn where they are from they are illegal. They are breaking the law. It is illegal to come into any country with a pass of some type!

            • It does matter where they come from! I realize they are coming (through) Mexico. Probably russians and chinese are walking through as well. More importantly these illegals are diseased, murderous, and hell bent on destroying this place. A lot of them are MS-13 gang members. They will cause untold chaos and death! All the while the Feds are allowing it all to happen!

              So we have to conclude that this is all intentional, and planned out to bring it to 3rd world status!

              • KM
                I miss understood your first response to my statement. We agree . They have to stop all of them from coming across the border.
                Sgt.

                • It’s (not) going to stop because they are Federally protected!!! Is that clear now? Some americans, not all want them to leave, but it’s not going to happen! The Fed has signed a bill that makes it against the law to stop a bus or any vehicle with illegals on it! You see, they are not going anywhere!

                  • What law is that?

                  • Could you please cite the federal law to which you refer?

                    Not stopping a bus or vehicle with illegals implies, by definition, that profiling is being done.

                    Profiling most certainly is not being done, though it badly needs to be.

          • Same critter. Different state.

      47. Were do I sign? I heard the government is giving free tv’s, EBT cards, free money each month.

        At least when the civil war comes my ass should be covered in the black and Hispanic communities. Whites are through in this country. Get with the play book. America is doomed to be Hispanic, black and Chinese.

        Odumbo would love me, come visit me, Michelle will be proud of me..

      48. It’s like a snipe hunt for liberals. The moment it involves their money, bam….NIMBY kicks in. These segments would be great on CNN, MSNBC and the sort.

      49. It looks like ground zero clock has started in ATL, the Ebola doctor has arrived. I hope they can help him, but I have my doubts. But here is a joke to take your mind ofF the multitude of problems we are facing in this once great USA. Enjoy…

        Little Red Riding Hood is skipping thru the forest road when she sees the big bad wolf crouched down behind a log.
        ‘My, what big eyes you have, Mr. Wolf.’
        The wolf jumps up and runs away.
        Further down the road Little Red Riding Hood sees the wolf again and this time he is crouched behind a bush.
        ‘My, what big ears you have, Mr. Wolf.’
        Again the wolf jumps up and runs away.
        About 1/4 mile down the road Little Red Riding Hood sees the wolf again and this time he is crouched down behind a rock.
        ‘My, what big teeth you have Mr. Wolf.’
        With that the wolf jumps up and screams, ‘Will you knock it off, I’m trying to poop!’

      50. @BJ reading ur post is very unsettling to say the least….I too have wondered looking at pics from postings past, why no one was wearing a mask….I’m hoping this is just BS myself…..at this point, I’m wondering what they know, that WE don’t

      51. items of interest

        This Is Kinda Spooky

        http://www.thedailysheeple.com/this-…-spooky_082014

        ‘Catastrophic’: Hedge fund billionaire Paul Singer warns of EMP

        http://truthstreammedia.com/hedge-fu…-warns-of-emp/

        Paul Craig Roberts – This Mega-Collapse Will Terrify People

        http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2014/8/1_Paul_Craig_Roberts_-_This_Mega-Collapse_Will_Terrify_People.html

        “So I think you could have massive social instability, starvation, and massive homelessness. The potential for a real catastrophe is there.”

      52. Sitting here thinking and trying to shake this sinus infection caused by breathing too much dirt…nasty thing this invasion of barrys…Americans traditionally and in general Id say are firm believers in fair play and compassion…we tend to want the best for others even outsiders…this is seen as weakness by many and is often abused and taken advantage of by those miscreants who profess to be better and more compassionate than we are…America wasnt built by lazy people…she wasnt built by folks with an inferiority complex or by some group of people who believed in nothing she was built by hardworking folks who dreamed of something better and dared act on that dream…most folks outside havent got a clue when they look at America and try to figure out how we did it…many folks who came here came here for the dream and to pursue the dream…most today coming here havnt a clue as to what that dream is(many Americans dont) and dont plan to improve their lot by hard work but by the method of taking advantage of the corrupt system that has taken away the “dream” and replaced it with the “plan”…which can not achieve the same results as the dream did/can….theres a reason why our founders didnt give the vote to every person who somehow found himself on these shores…they knew too many were not interested/capable of dreaming the dream and succeding…they had no skin in the game so to they couldnt be trusted to not act in their selfish interest over the interests of that dream…today we have given a say to the family dog(well almost)so the one who works and saves and makes something of himself has no more say over that success than the freeloader or the gangbanger dope dealer from medico…this is just one small example of what is wrong here…does anyone believe the founders were so stupid as to set a system in place that would allow/even encourage the have nots and the do nots to gain power over the do-ers and the working persons???…noway in hell!…had our system been functioning to its intended ability when obarry had gotten elected by the gimmedats an emergency reset would have kicked in and nullified him(or at least his actions)…based on what you ask…based on the simple premise that any action…be it a bill or an election should have had to show its corillation and agreement to our constitution and to the framers intent or it could no stand…methinks we need a serious reset on things like the vote and on how those votes are often allowed to stand in flaggerant opposition to our core law…point being theres alot of “little” things that are out of sync and thats what is causing the dream to slowly grind down to a halt…as a people we gotta rekindle the dream and set fire to the rest because there are those out there and even here amoungst us who are not of us and certainly are not with us…they will continue to use our compassion and our dreams success against us unless we stop allowing it…hope youre all well! REB

        • Your wonderful post would be much more pleasant/easier to read, if you broke it up into PARAGRAPHS for us…

      53. I’m a little confused….reading the story about Dr. Brantly arriving in U.S. (drudge report) if as reported he’s gravely ill, how then can he himself exit the back of the ambulance, and walk himself into the hosiptal ?? Anyone ???

        • Maybe the blood transfusion worked? There was one such case documented decades ago. But the last I read was stable but grave condition. That means not much chance of living unless something changes.

        • They may have had a wheelchair hidden in the entrance? He may not have succumbed to hypotension yet. There was no visible evidence of IV fluids that we could see from our televised vantage point.

      54. Who is the NAZI NOW?

        Israeli jew Officer’s Insane Justification for Killing a 13-Year-Old Palestinian Girl in a “REFUGEE CAMP”!!!

        “REFUGEE CAMP: AS IN SUPPOSE TO BE A PLACE OF REFUGE AND SAFETY FOR WOMEN AND CHILDREN!”

        An Israeli army officer who repeatedly shot a 13-year-old Palestinian girl in Gaza dismissed a warning from another soldier that she was a child by saying he would have killed her even if she was three years old.

        The officer, identified by the army only as Captain R, was charged this week with illegal use of his weapon, conduct unbecoming an officer and other relatively minor infractions after emptying all 10 bullets from his gun’s magazine into Iman al-Hams when she walked into a “security area” on the edge of Rafah refugee camp last month.

        A tape recording of radio exchanges between soldiers involved in the incident, played on Israeli television, contradicts the army’s account of the events and appears to show that the captain shot the girl in cold blood.

        • Sorry, but these kids are on children’s shows from the age of 3 or 4 being indoctrinated that suicide bombers are super heros. I might have shot her too. Tliban routinely used children to set up ambush points. Just sayin.

        • So, one soldier did this, and now their all Nazis?

          Just note, the Israelis have arrested him and he is going to be dealt with.

          The Palestinians, however, have yet to arrest a single terrorist who has fired rockets into civilian areas of Israel, or even a single terrorist who prevented Palestinian civilians from evacuating areas that the Israelis warned would be attacked.

          Take your jew hatred somewhere else.

      55. America has been reduced to 500 ethnic tribes, all fighting for moooch money for their tribe, except for the caucasions.

        No tribe alone has enough power to go against DC, except for the caucasions.

        The tribes within America are truly weak and doomed, including the do nothing caucasions.

      56. Off topic:

        We’ve been having thunder storms around here so my wife and I decided to drive up into the mountains and camp where we can get a good show. We found a primitive camp off an old logging road next to a creek. We set up a basic camp and then sat back and waited. We heard some rumbling of thunder just before night fall then nothing. The sky’s were clear and the stars came out. In the morning be took down camp and drove up to higher elevation to where the huckleberries grow. We found a decent patch and filled up a one gallon zip loc bag. Huckleberry cheesecake mmmmmmm my favorite cheesecake.

        With all the thunderstorms and lightening strikes I figured that it would be prudent to not have a wood camp fire. I’m sure that the forest service personnel would frown on it. But, I did make a camp candle in place of a wood fire. Before we left home I cut the bottom 3 inches off a coffee can and filled it with drier lint and melted wax. We burned that at camp, it lasted about 2 hours. I took some aluminum foil with me to smoother the flame if it was necessary.

      57. We are all hypocrites regarding what we are doing and what we could be doing. How many liberals bring mentally ill homeless sex offenders to their home? How many pro life people adopt special needs or any child? Hoarding food when people are hungry. Bound familiar. I am as guilty as anyone.
        As an aside. The video is entertaining but a few people are not representative of any group. The MSM finds a nut “survivalist” and paints is with a broad nutty brush.

      58. “Progressives” suddenly understand private property when the wealth being bandied about is theirs rather than “everyone’s.” Not every religiously liberal person is collectivist. But most are. Observation from lived experience, not theory.

      59. Liberals TELL YOU how to live your life. They SPEND your money better than you would. They KNOW what your kids need to learn in school/college. They are the SMARTEST people alive, and you non-liberals are stupid jerks.

        As far as dealing with these ILLEGALS (babys, kids, adults) liberals solve that problem by taking (taxing) YOU, then giving the money to these leeches. For liberals, that solves the problem, because the way they “solve” a problem is to make sure it NEVER GOES AWAY!

        Good luck!

      60. Corporations are making hundreds of millions transporting, housing and providing “social services” to illegals in the US. Now it is “revealed” that those same corporations have been shipping the Central Americans to our border so they can continue to loot the US and destroy the demographic integrity of our country. Does it get any worse than this?

        • Do you mean churches, not corporations? Charter a bus, make the trip, it’s done. Place them in ‘sanctuary’, the corporation running the services at the detention center is done.

          The churches, however, are going to get $7,000 a month for each and every one of these they harbor.

          The pie is a lot bigger than you think.

      61. I will never trust our government again.

      62. Tell our troops to shoot first and ask questions later! Send all the greasy little bastards back where they came from. We don’t need them here and we certainly don’t want tham here. Nothing but as bunch of criminals! Just another burden on our failing economy thanks to the Communist regime in the White House!

      63. I will find a better prepper network because you people are nuts! People that have different views than you have are not the enemy. People who refuse to vote republican are not the enemy. People who will only vote for conservative or liberal candidates are the enemy. Judging by your comments, you are my enemy.

        • So, by your own definition, you are your own enemy.

      64. Now THERE is a position neutral headline. Is that the cheapest sensational BS headline you can dream up?

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