US Attorney General Gives the Go-Ahead on Domestic Drone Strikes: May Be Necessary Under “Extraordinary Circumstances”

by | Mar 6, 2013 | Headline News | 393 comments

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    When Congress authorized the deployment of some 30,000 drones over U.S. skies with the passage of the FAA Air Transportation Modernization and Safety Improvement Act in 2012 many civil liberties groups, privacy advocates and Americans expressed their concerns about the possibility that these surveillance tools could be used within the borders of the United States much like they are on the battlefields of the middle east where scores of innocent civilians are killed almost every day as collateral damage in direct strikes against alleged terrorists.

    Those fears are very quickly being realized not as possibilities, but actualities.

    In response to questions recently voiced by Senator Rand Paul about drone strikes being used against American citizens on American soil without charge or trial, Attorney General Eric Holder issued a public statement indicating that the government has the right to use armed unmanned aerial vehicles should “extraordinary circumstances” arise.

    Holder writes:

    On February 20, 2013, you wrote to John Brennan requesting additional information concerning the Administration’s views about whether “the President has the power to authorize lethal force, such as a drone strike, against a U.S. citizen on U.S. soil, without a trial.”

    As members of this administration have previously indicated, the US government has not carried out drone strikes in the United States and has no intention of doing so. As a policy matter moreover, we reject the use of military force where well-established law enforcement authorities in this country provide the best means for incapacitating a terrorist threat. We have a long history of using the criminal justice system to incapacitate individuals located in our country who pose a threat to the United States and its interests abroad. Hundreds of individuals have been arrested and convicted of terrorism-related offenses in our federal courts. 

    The question you have posed is therefore entirely hypothetical, unlikely to occur, and one we hope no president will ever have to confront.

    It is possible, I suppose, to imagine an extraordinary circumstance in which it would be necessary and appropriate under the Constitution and applicable laws of the United States for the President to authorize the military to use lethal force within the territory of the United States.

    For example, the president could conceivably have no choice but to authorize the military to use such force if necessary to protect the homeland in the circumstances like a catastrophic attack like the ones suffered on December 7, 1941, and September 11, 2001.

    Full Text (PDF)

    The official position of the United States government is that a drone, or any military asset for that matter, can be deployed by the President of the United States or his surrogates without regard to the sixth amendment of the US Constitution, which requires that citizens be afforded the right of facing their accusers, to call witnesses and to be tried by a jury of their peers.

    Senator Paul responded to the Attorney General’s comments and warned of the dangers of the new policy:

    “The U.S. Attorney General’s refusal to rule out the possibility of drone strikes on American citizens and on American soil is more than frightening – it is an affront the Constitutional due process rights of all Americans.”

    Last month President Obama responded to questions about domestic drone strikes:

    First of all… there’s never been a drone used on an American citizen, on American soil.

    We respect and have a whole bunch of safeguards in terms of how we conduct counter-terrorism operations outside of the United States. The rules outside of the United States are going to be different than the rules inside of the United States.

    I am not somebody who believes that the President has the authority to do whatever he wants or whatever she wants, whenever they want,  just under the guise of  counter-terrorism.

    There have to be checks and balances on it.

    Based on Eric Holder’s memo, the President, and therefore agencies under his control, do believe that they have the authority to use lethal force against those identified as “terrorists.”

    As the Attorney General noted in his letter to Senator Paul, there are hundreds of Americans that have been tried and convicted as terrorists, and thousands more that have been identified as terrorists by government officials.

    U.S. attorney Anne Tompkins recently prosecuted Bernard Von Nothaus for minting silver coins he branded as “liberty dollars.” After Vot Nothaus was convicted, Tompkins referred to his actions as a unique form of domestic terrorism.

    Local law enforcement officials attending DHS sponsored training events have widely reported that the definitions for “terrorist” activity are becoming very broad, as outlined by one police officer at James Rawles’ Survival Blog:

    During the past several years, I have witnessed a dramatic shift in the focus of law enforcement training.  Law enforcement courses have moved away from a local community focus to a federally dominated model of complete social control. Most training I have attended over the past two years have been sponsored by Department of Homeland Security (DHS), namely the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) and Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA).

    No matter what topic the training session concerns, every DHS sponsored course I have attended over the past few years never fails to branch off into warnings about potential domestic terrorists in the community.

    So how does a person qualify as a potential domestic terrorist?  Based on the training I have attended, here are characteristics that qualify:

    • Expressions of libertarian philosophies (statements, bumper stickers)
    • Second Amendment-oriented views (NRA or gun club membership, holding a CCW permit)
    • Survivalist literature (fictional books such as “Patriots” and “One Second After” are mentioned by name)
    • Self-sufficiency (stockpiling food, ammo, hand tools, medical supplies)
    • Fear of economic collapse (buying gold and barter items)
    • Religious views concerning the book of Revelation (apocalypse, anti-Christ)
    • Expressed fears of Big Brother or big government
    • Homeschooling
    • Declarations of Constitutional rights and civil liberties
    • Belief in a New World Order conspiracy

    Earlier this year a kindergarten student was suspended from school after officials reported that she made a terrorist threat utilizing a Hello Kitty bubble gun.

    The Attorney General of the United States of America just gave the President the go-ahead on domestic drone strikes.

    Under the Patriot Act and the National Defense Authorization Act, no Constitutional protections need be afforded to American citizens, thus, anyone can be classified as a domestic terrorist at the President’s discretion.

    If you mint a silver coin, stockpile food, refuse to turn in your high capacity magazine, voice beliefs that may be considered subversive to the government, or have a toy resembling a gun, you maybe labeled a terrorist.

    As such, you can also be targeted for extermination.


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      1. Unless there are hundreds of thousands of Chiness troops occupying sections of the U.S. and this is the only way to help stop them, this is pure manure. The army can handle any type of armed conflict, or the citizen militia can. The nanosecond that they start to use drone attacks in the U.S., Pandora’s box has been opened and we ALL are totally at risk. Hell, we are ALL at risk right now. This country is in the later stages of some serious decay. Encourage everyone around you to own at least one firearm, even the people you don’t like, as they are going to be the ones that we hopefully join together WHEN THEY finally turn on the citizens.

        • When they don’t get thier way, and lock it all down, expect them to start murdering Americans with drones. They are probably just waiting for a reason, to set precedent. The real terrorists, and thier marxist lackies, now run the country.

          Time is running out for people to wake up, and grow spines and brains.

          • Mind-blowing post highlights all the rights Americans have lost

            “This separation of government from people, this widening of the gap, took place so gradually and so insensibly, each step disguised (perhaps not even intentionally) as a temporary emergency measure or associated with true patriotic allegiance or with real social purposes. And all the crises and reforms (real reforms, too) so occupied the people that they did not see the slow motion underneath, of the whole process of government growing remoter and remoter.”

            “The German citizens were boiling frogs… the water heating up so gradually that they didn’t realize they had to jump out of the pot to safety.

            Because the exact same thing is happening to Americans, let’s remember exactly what we’ve lost in recent years…”

            The Daily Crux

            • Our government is playing God by providing for those who will do nothing on their own to better their lives. This is not the way that God intended man to live and there will be an awakening when God sees fit. We are all sinners but there is redemption if we simply make the effort to better our lives through hard work, honesty, kindness, belief in the all mighty Lord and everything that he commands us to respect. Helping someone who is in need is the right thing to do, if that person is doing everything they can to help themselves as well.

              They are looking down on us now as though we are nothing but vermin that has to be controlled in order to keep them in power. This spying is wrong and evil but in the end they will be shown who is really in charge. I am afraid we can’t stop them but one day, God will. It seems as though most of the world in now being controlled by men who are acting as though they are God, this country is now followed suit, it is an obomination against God and man, the wrath of God will set things straight.

              • 1st Thought:

                So how does a person qualify as a potential domestic terrorist? Based on the training I have attended, here are characteristics that qualify:

                ■Expressions of libertarian philosophies
                ■Second Amendment-oriented views
                ■Survivalist literature
                ■Self-sufficiency (stockpiling food, ammo, hand tools, medical supplies)
                ■Fear of economic collapse (buying gold and barter items)
                ■Religious views concerning the book of Revelation (apocalypse, anti-Christ)
                ■Expressed fears of Big Brother or big government
                ■Declarations of Constitutional rights and civil liberties
                ■Belief in a New World Order conspiracy–OK this one’s a maybe

                Kinda sounds a lot like those crazy kids: you know ’em:
                Washington, Jefferson, Henry, Franklin.

                Sounds like good company to me.

                • A murdering criminal OK’s murder….

                  What’s the news in that. The war was declared long ago, the people just were not informed.

                  Soon, they will begin participating…

                • I firmly believe that each and every person reading this should begin a local grassroots drive, in their city, county, community, to insist that their local police and county sheriff department absolutely COMFRONT the feds when they use these examples. I also believe that citizens must DEMAND THAT NO FEDERAL TRAINER BE ALLOWED TO INCLUDE THES DEFINITIONS IN ANY TRAINING.
                  We have the right to not be defined as terrorists.
                  We have the right to demand that our local law enforcement agencies NOT participate in this overt attempt, by the feds, to redefine terrorist so that it includes you and I…….average americans who believe in the same things we have always believed in. The ONLY thing that has changed is that the federal government is attempting to rapidly destroy the pride we have felt as citizens and to undermine our faith, and prevent us from being responsible prepared citizens
                  They need to be told, IN NO UNCERTAIN TERMS, that their definition WILL NOT BE TOLERATED, from this day forward.
                  Enough bullsh.t already.
                  You and I are likely the same people we were ten years ago, or even 15 years ago.
                  The only thing that has changed is that OUR GOVT. cooperated with Israel and Mossad, to commit the worst terror attack our nation has ever experienced.
                  THEY are the terrorists, and I refuse to allow them to define me as such.
                  Insist that your local law enforcement find their balls and stand up to these slime……..that is, unless you want your grandkids to be slaves. Perhaps you do? If not, take action and demand that this training, aka, brainwashing STOP!

                • I meet them all…ya good company to be in 🙂

                • Cowboy,

                  Well said sir you kinda sound like a Texan? I figure once we get back to what made this country great we’ll be just fine. And BTW if that list is what you believe in, then yes you are in very good company..


                  PS Reallypissedoff, most have done that but its called Militia. 🙂

                • Let me get this straight:

                  A bumper sticker makes me a terorist, but screaming “ALLAH AKBAR” and shooting dozens of unarmed people is “workplace violence”.

                  OK, got it.

                • sounds like self fulfilling paranoia to be labeling all Americans as ‘potential’ terrorists based on those membership groups, and views etc. People need to remember this is how the Cambodian war started with intellectuals and professionals being exterminated by the Communist party and by their own family members. Is this the road the American Government and people are heading towards or leading down …. ?

            • Our enemy just can’t stop lieing. Of course there are those that accept what the liar in chief says.

              Holder ” the government has the right…”. Mr. Holder, only if it is tyranny. Our rights, as Americans, trump yours. Your statement is a decleration of war. The government (with rights) verses WE THE PEOPLE that have rights.

              • Anon,

                They will accecpt it until their family is on the wrong end of a Hellfire missle.

            • Everyone reading and posting on this site is a domestic terrorist. You are being watched. You are dangerous. You are already on a potential enemies list.

              • Amen brother I was thinking the same thing. I also read a linked story on Drudge that these drones can detect if you have weapons. Ain’t that nice along with the 2 billion rounds of ammo.

                These assholes can’t wait for the S to HTF so they have an excuse to cull the population/opposition/insurrection.

                • If you aren’t on some kind of list then you just ain’t being serious! What we need is about 8 million of us to start heading to DC, clogging highways and shutting down commerce as we go. That might get some attention. However the government acts, we will respond in kind. I still can’t figure out WTF we are waiting for.

                  • Get your techno going and develop a way to knock them out. The idea of drones in the U.S will be a mistake and it’s undoing. Americans are much smarter than they give credit. Drones would be made obsolete due to ingenius methods created by free enterprise to render them useless and the U.S. will once again lose another military edge.

              • @ Pavan. You are so right. We here are dangerous to the government on this site, we think and we use our brains and we don’t conform to THEM.

              • No asshole can stand up to God and win…have you ever seen a great killing or destructive act fulfilled by the real Almighty Leader, if so…I think one would grow a brain in fear very quickly..cause it really does kick ass beyond these rediculous little boy antics of arrogance we see. Laughing in a much better place. Good luck and enjoy the worlds ignorance…what a shame.

              • come and get me!! then

          • I must state this again until it sinks in,

            drone pilots and their ilk = valuable targets.

            Do ya’ll get it yet??

            • How big a scumbag is the person who is flying the drones. They probably come from a whole line of scumbags. They disgrace the uniform they wear.

              • Did you catch where they are giving bronze stars to drone pilots that are sitting in cushy rooms in Nevada while our boys are freezing in the cracks and crevices of Afghanistan. they want to get some loyalty outta those chumps. Can you say future SS ? Just like Amerikorp is the same as the Brown shirts.

                Gonna be hell to pay. Pray!

          • In the 60’s there was a revolutionary group, I can’t recall if they were leftist or racial that was bombed by the city/state government. A bomb was dropped on their dwelling by helicopter. I think it was in the midwest. I’m going off of memory for the details so they are foggy but I do know for sure that there was a group that was bombed within the continental USA by the government during the era of the late 60’s/early 70’s. So the precedent has been set for the government to blow the shit out of you. Now the tables are turned and it’s the radicals that are going to kill the flag wavers. It fits theses times where up is down and 2+2=5.

            • Forgive my spelling and grammar, my worst case of bursitis has flared up and it sucks. All you young spuds that think you can pitch 9 innings game after game or get crazy and abuse your body, it will come back to haunt you later in life. Don’t be a puss when it does, unless you got a good wife.

            • happened in Philly as I recall.

              • The group was called MOVE and had a back to nature philosophy. The members all adopted the name Africa. The issue was various code violations dealing with their chosen lifestyle. After they refused eviction at some point a gun battle took place. A lot of rounds were fired and the police decided to drop a bomb on the home made “bunker” on the roof. In the end an entire city block was burned down.

              • You would be correct. Its my hometown and that was the 2nd
                Major confrontation with MOVE.

                • Morrissey

                  And a Cheesesteak “WIT” to you too along with a cannoli from Termini’s bakery.

                  Former Del here with working knowledge of the city.

                  Welcome to the BB.

            • direct link to follow


              it was in the 80s and hey burnt down about 80 houses..

          • Belive me when I say this, If this administration starts using drones to kill everyday Americans, just because they disagree with this adminstration, drones or no drones, HELL will be unleashed on them. Mark my word. They will awaken many sleeping giants. They really have NO idea.

        • BI – You are so very correct.

          Big Sis already sent out the memo, remember? Conservatives are all targets. Those of us that are ex-GI’s are listed. Just respecting the Constitution gets one a potential “Target Acquisition Program”.

          No worry, just poop on a police car, wear a “Hate the USA” t-shirt and you get a glowing report card from the media and the left.

          Many Trojan Horses have arrived in the United States. The biggest one was the Trojan Camel on perpetual vacation.

        • speaking of drones did you see the one near JFK airport in new york? no? an Alitalia pilot seen it. Was recorded telling the tower at jfk he seen it, and the tower was recorded telling other pilots en route to be careful of the “possible” drone.

        • I fully agree.
          If the government indicates that it would be appropriate to use drones in a Pearl Harbor or 9/11 event, are they saying that they will use the drones on the f…ing ZIONISTS in Israel and the US who were the direct players in 9/11, as well as Cheyney and all his energy friends who directly knew about what was coming and colluded?

          Additionally, I want to know WHY our local and county law enforcement people are NOT CONFRONTING those phukkers from homeland security who are putting on these trainings? Why in God’s name is there NOT a NATIONAL local and regional law enforcement REVOLT against this bullshit brainwashing that is being done at these trainings?
          We have a large number of sheriffs etc. who have gone on record as saying they will NOT enforce gun grabbing, but these very SAME people seem to be OK with the FEDS identifying NRMAL people, expressing long valued beliefs in America, as POTENTIAL TERRORISTS.
          This is simply GUTLESS, and a BETRAYAL of all of us whom they are sworn to protect. We pay their pfukking salary and we have a RIGHT TO DEMAND that this bullshit brainwashing that the feds are doing during these trainings IMMEDIATELY CEASE AND DESIST.
          it is time for all Americans to contact their lcal law enforcement, enmasse via phone call, letter writing, attendance at local city meetings etc and DEMAND THAT THIS CRAP STOP NOW!
          If we want to tell those phukkers in DC that we will not stand by while they define US as POTENTIAL TERRORISTS, there is a method for doing so.
          Let’s all get off our asses today and begin to mobilze a campaign to put those federal fukkers in their rightful place.

        • Is it paranoid of me to be apprehensive about taking a conceal/carry class? I’m supposed to take one next weekend, but am feeling like that’ll get me put on a “yep, he owns a gun” list.

          I do live in an open carry state, so it’s probably unnecessary…

          • Todd, the CHL basically helps when buying a weapon (don’t have to wait on background check) and when you cross into states that allow CHLs.
            Even if your state is open carry, try to keep it concealed so as not to draw attention to yourself.
            Yes, I have one.

          • If you’re in an “open carry” state, I’d skip the class which will definitely put you on a list, along with your fingerprints and the description of the gun you use to test on the range. In a more normal world, you would be one of the “good guys”, trying to do it right, but now, you’re marked.

          • Todd, your already on the “special” list just because you asked. Join the crowd. Its a great group. 🙂

          • Don’t take it and don’t get a permit. All of that will be irrelevant in the very near future. It’s the same with HAM radio, don’t bother with a license. Don’t use the radio, nor carry concealed until after the SHTF.

          • Todd many years ago I was in a boating accident, a real one, while crossing the bar on the Yaquina River aka Newport Oregon and my 45 and 12 ga was lost to King Neptune. At the time I had a CCW permit, I’ve kept it current with the idea that I would, without hassles replace the 45, I’m probably too late to do that now unless the current environment returns back to normal or if someone is in dire need of cash and is also offering ammo.

        • We are an Occupied nation, think on that, and the rest of the pieces fall into place- Time to End the Traitors!

        • I return with this last comment for all of you.

          The agenda is going forward despite all the protests and comments and reactions..with full force and compliment from every agency combined against all resistance.
          Economic collapse,new currency issued, and every dissenter vanquished within a certain time frame.

          Drone strikes,surveillance,issuance’s of default on loans,confiscation of precious metals,guns,armaments, ammo,stockpiles, will come full force against any tracked and logged individuals so far in the database.

          You have no idea nor comprehension of the wrath awaiting when the shock and awe is unleashed upon the states come soon.

          Prepare for continuance of government as is and ready yourselves for the final cleansing of those who debased the system.

          The time of reckoning is about to be unleashed..

          Prepare best you can..


        • Wow, how technology has advanced over the years. First Nagasaki and Hiroshima with the Atomic bomb, now, potential Drones with sarin gas?

          Oh for that matter, a radio shack remote control plane.

          Scary times man, scary times!

      2. the only extraordinary circumstance is the traitors that have infilatrated our lives. The vile web of folks that are who we, generally, know as the powers that be. And I agree. They should be eliminated by any means neccesary. This is a joke anyhow. Since when, has law enforcement, not killed people under “extraordianry” circumstances? This, like most everything they do now, is to try and scare people. They are big on making laws, however , other than petty nonsense, they are low on action. The alphabet agencies are cowards. Most of these types are very weak when confronted with force.

        • eeder,

          You are right about eliminated by all means, but it has to be done according to the law of the our forefathers. These laws of the land that made this country great. I think that if all treasonous acts should be inforced by the people and for the people.


      3. ““Extraordinary Circumstances””? Like ‘Barry the Bolshevik’ and Reggie are having one of their usual lovers spats, so the bored and angered mulatto makes a 3 AM visit to the War room in the basement to personally grasp in his hands, another “joy stick”, and proceeds to terminate the life of a known terrorist, i.e. a sleeping Amish Dairy Farmer and his wife and kids, for selling Raw milk to a neighbor …

        that kind of “extraordinary”?

        • European American, yep….that kind of “extraordinary circumstance”…..I remember another form of government-justice that happened in 2008 and it involved 167 children who were removed from the YFZ Ranch in Texas. Those well-informed authorities believed there was sex abuse going on with married couples.

          In today’s style of government-justice, the drones would be deployed and people would be dead. Those living at the YFZ Ranch in Texas are Mormons — now, they are now seen as terrorists. They are homeschoolers now seen as terrorists. Those Mormons live in a compound and they’re terrorists now. Those Mormons gardened, too, and they’re self-reliant. They’re now terrorists.

          Back in 2008, authorities ripped 167 kids from their families and all-they-knew. Authorities said 18 girls were immediately placed in state protective custody.

          “We concluded they had been abused or were at immediate risk of future abuse,” said Darrell Azar, a spokesman for the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services. “Under Texas law, either one is grounds for removal.”

          This is typical of how stupid the government has become. And now they want to take care of their self-defined “terrorist” threats with drones? How many innocents will die at the hands of the government?

          Cueing Herr Himmler, Adolf Hitler….

          • Yeah, but EWWWWWW. What the YFZ was doing was just gross. I suppose we can all have our opinions on whether 15 year old girls are “of age” to be married en masse to 50+ yr old men to be impregnated, but … yeah…I find that disturbing. I would not want it for myself and I wouldn’t want it for my daughters. And…a lot of those young girls didn’t want it either.

            • Isn’t the legal age in Alabama 14?

              • That’s not the point. Marriage as a legal defense for statutory rape will possibly hold up in a court of law, yes. But it might not when circumstances are so overwhelming as they are here. Even so the laws in this are completely broken, even if you are pro-government. e.g., In many of the same states, a minor cannot file for divorce. These young girls had no alternatives but to marry their grandfathers’ friends, have sex, then have babies. EW.

                • Do you even understand what “legal age” means dumbass?

            • Agreed, but I doubt they wanted to be hauled off by the government, either. The “child in need” racket is one of the most effective pulled by the government. Every parent is terrified of losing a child, particularly to the maze of government regulations. You can make parents do almost anything to keep children with them, so that’s a very powerful club.

            • I agree.But i’ll go further.Those pedophiles deserve a bullet in the head.

              • Okiefeller, define “those pedophiles”. Be specific, please.

            • Ruth, I understand your point of view and it’s mine as well. But the Feds came down exceptionally hard on this group, seized all of the children, and spent something like $15 million. What happened to basic rights? And what about evidence prior to these elaborations?

              Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff disagreed with the removal: “Let’s say you’re a 6-month-old girl, no evidence whatsoever of any abuse. They’re simply saying, ‘You, in this culture, may grow up to be a child bride when you’re 14. Therefore we’re going to remove you now when you’re 6 months old,”‘ he said. “Or, ‘You’re a 6-month-old boy; 25, 30 years, 40 years from now you’re going to be a predator, so we’re going to take you away now.” (from wikipedia)

              If you have time, go read the entry on YFZ Rance at wikipedia to see what other legal opinions on this raid said. Then think about how out of hand the Feds can get with drones.

        • I agree with you E.A.

          In what scenario would drones firing on targets on American soil change anything when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor or on 9/11. Extraordinary Circumstances?? What does that mean?

          • Its an undefined term like domestic terrorist. It means what they want when they want it. I guess we’re supposed to just trust them. Sure you can trust the government, just ask an Indian.

            • Ask an Indian? The list of those lied to and the lies are far too long to write down here but here are a few more notable that has a significant impact upon “We The People”.

              Gulf of Tonkin Incident
              Weapons of mass destruction in Iraq
              The Warren Commission Report

        • Exactly!….theyre not going to start out tommorrow blasting just anyone,theyd start out blasting ones who most people would be okay with…like the Waco crowd or some cult that most people both religious and heathen could agree on…then theyed slowly work their way down the list desensitizing the populuous until they reach that farmer or that mechanic whom they had a beef with!

      4. I guess we’d better start reaching out and touching our friends and neighbors, it looks like the red skyline is not a sunrise. I just got a transceiver radio and a couple of backup comm devices…in case I have to spread it around. I think the intentions here are crystal clear…they plan on putting us down very soon. I plan on going down hard. I’ve got an Israeli made gas mask just in case those chemical weapons get loose there in Ky.

        • I tried touching my neighbors and all it got me was OC Spray in the eyes. Guess that’s what I get for moving next door to a sorority house.

          • At least you were smart enough not to try it with the Frat boys…

        • dont forget to get a couple chemical suits and decon kits,,, can be had online pretty cheap, and are a good insurance kit,,,

          • The Decon kit could work for the sorority house too

        • IMO, now that the news is out there that the government is gearing up against US, coupled with the fact that there ARE indeed, chemical weapons capabilities that could come into play, it would be negligent not to prep for such a disaster.

          Chemical and radiological preparedness might seem a bit extreme at the moment, but when you realize that the U.S. holds the most extensive stockpiles of both on the planet, and the advantages of killing people without destroying infrastructure, it only makes sense that it would be a possibility.

          It makes tactical sense to launch an attack that the enemy hasn’t planned for, and to prepare for such a contingency as well.





        • Chill the heck out with the hate, E. Most people here did not vote for Romney. Most people here did not participate in the election fraud AT ALL.

          Stop generalizing. Generalizing is lazy and displays a lack of critical thinking. You’re smarter than that, and if you have any desire to be taken seriously, I suggest you begin acting like it.


          • Amerikkka’s chickens are coming home to roost. You all think it’s funny when we kill non-whites in other countries with drone strikes. Yet when it’s “American citizens on American soil” somehow it becomes wrong. Those are human beings you guys are talking about.

            Stop invading other people’s countries. Stop glorifying the military. Like that idiot Glenn Beck says the Patriot Act was great and “thank you for your sevice”. Service to what? To the bankers and military industrial complex?

            I don’t hate you guys. I love you all. It’s tough love.

            • There’s that rational ‘leftist libertarian’ thinking again. LOL. You’re dumber than a bag of hammers.

              BTW, please cite for me the day, week or even month that Glenn said the Patriot Act was great. I have all of his shows going back to 2008 in an archive and I’ll be more than happy to get that transcript for ya. Just like I correctly refuted the idiot on here that claimed Glenn said to turn in all your guns.

              Of course, you aren’t aware (because you’re dumber than a hammers and speak of what you know not) that Glenn has been VERY vocal about bringing them all home now. We aren’t fighting to win it, so why the hell are we there.

              Of course, he’s also been very vocal against the patriot act, NDAA, drones, surveilance, and all of that shit. Of course, that’s what you get when you’re an actual libertarian and have rational thinking. But you wouldn’t know about that if it jumped up and bit you in the ass.

              • Not so, he is just a liberal/socialist trying to pass himself off as a conservative/prepper or even worse a concerned citizen like his idol: Barry. A troll at best, a plant at worse.

                • Honestly, I’m really not all that convinced he is. Maybe tho.

                  Clearly the dude isn’t all that well educated and a virulent racist. He’s been duped by the left to believe some of their bull crap about the right, but in his brief fits of rationality, he does appear to want to be left the hell alone.

                  I’m betting that once he grows up, drops his petty prejudices and figures out what a book is, he may get it. I dunno.

                  • Not so Much,

                    Looks like E is correct, that would make you the “Bag of hammers”.
                    Way to go E!

                • Maybe AI…nah… too out there…
                  But…what better test for interaction, other than
                  some contrived exercise in a lab…
                  Just look at the grammar and, at times, indignation for not being understood when, it’s response, would or should be appropriate, in many different circumstances…

                  Either that or a total and complete fool trying to divert our attention…

                  Being somewhat pragmatic…I vote for the latter…I don’t think they’re that far advanced, yet…
                  But it is food for thought…
                  It just strikes me as being very odd, more than most trolls…

              • Beck DID support the Patriot Act at first. Loot it up. The first reaction is the most telling.

                • You asserted it, you provide the link.

                • Eisenkratz,

                  Its look it up not loot it up….


                  • Sorry DPS…I fat fingered the down button meant to hit up!

                • Don’t know about Beck, but I remember Hannity actually saying you were’nt a Conservative, if you opposed the Patriot Act.Could’nt believe my ears. Course nobody ever accused him of being a Conservative.WASP. Come And Take It!


              • I was always told I was dumber than a bag of rocks! Hammers is a new one for me…. Heee Heee

            • When did I ever suggest blowing up brown children across the ocean was more acceptable than blowing up blond children here? None of it’s acceptable – those killing innocents are murderers, plain and simple.

              It just seems like you are being purposely antagonistic when we are actually all on the same side. Your “tough love” would work way better if you didn’t alienate the audience you are trying to influence. You know I’m right. Admit it.

              You have some valid things to say but no one’s listening because you are saying it in a way that causes people to ignore the CONTENT. Personally, I pay a lot more attention to someone who addresses me courteously than someone who acts like I’m an idiot and tries to bludgeon me with insults and a smattering of worthwhile information. I bet lots of other folks would respond that way too.

              I think you’re only nice to me because you know I spell better than you. 😉


              • I was speaking to the floor, not to you in particular.

                • Daisy is right…

                  Venting your spleen on everyone detracts from what you are trying to say. It is not neccessary to try and be polite all the time, but it is possible to emphasize your point without making generalizations about the poeple posting here, or calling them names. That’s what common trolls do.

                  Also I doubt most of the people here were ever supportive of the things you cite. And, many of us here have served in the military, perhaps you don’t realize how much you alienate us when you talk down to us, you are making un-neccessary enemies. Friends come and go, but enemies accumulate. I don’t know any Veterans who approve of the path this country is on, most do not recognize this as the country they laid thier lives on the line for.

                  In any case, the path this country is on was set before most people in this country were even born. It is this generation, here, and now, that will lose it forever, or restore it.

              • Eugenics in a new time using very old ways. Kill the people who don’t kiss the elite, power-brokering, wealthy, scums-of-the-earth’s asses…

                Lets be real, there ARE too many people on the planet, it’s just that the ones in charge that CAUSE problems, horde wealth, and gain influence over lower classes at those lower classes’ expense, won’t volunteer THEMSELVES into Soylent Green. Perhaps the Pruning our society seems destined to face is good.

                Consider this – take cheap, abundant oil out of society, and the carrying capacity of the planet drops by 5 billion. Who volunteers to die first? Not me…

            • WTF are you doing now Eisen? On one hand you say “throw all non whites out. You also make comments about “what do you call a black guy in a suit. Now you are concerned about non whites in other countries. What an odd little boy you are.

              • Theres a big difference between acknowledging the inherent truth that non-whites are inferior and wanting to blow helpless people up.

                • Based on what Eisen? Based on a moron who posts crap throughout the evening and early morning hours?

          • daisy, everything he is saying is true. why do folks like me and eisen have to be marginalized, when frankly, we are the some of the smarter people here. The time for being nice to these traitors has passed. I have long suspected this website as being a repukelican trolling site. It is quite simple. You are either for the truth and eliminating zionism or you are for deceit and enabling it. It is a very simple choice. And it is that simple.

            • “we are the some of the smarter people here. ”

              LMAO! Leftist egotism and arrogance on display. You’re both blithering idiots.

              • Not so, get’em

          • Come on, Daisy!! There were MANY people on this site who were pro-Romney!! There were even people on this site who were pro-Gingrich, which I cannot even begin to grasp. Until the left/right paradigm is understood for the illusion that it is, we will not advance. Throw off your mental chains!!

            • Mule, I admit I voted for Romney, but not for being pro Romney as much as anti-Obama. True, Romney has flaws but compared to the dictator?

              • drd5508 romney would of done everything obama has done. Remember two heads same coin. left and right are the same in this sense. Rep. Dem. no difference.

                bush= rep = patriot acts, started wars on credit.

                obama= dem =NDAA(2011) kept wars going still on credit.
                ( romney would of signed it even faster then obama )

                Just two examples we can go down the list and show how both sides have been putting into place what we have now for years.

                • Anon, Romney wouldn’t have kept Holder, Jarett, and the rest of OB’s leftest/communist cabinet.

          • Aren’t you generalizing when you say most people here did not vote for Romney? He got my vote.

            • Live Free, I admit I voted for Romney too. I would have voted for a Turd if that’s what was up against Ocommie. I probably wouldn’t have agreed with everything the Turd stood for, but how can I sit back and bitch about anything when I didn’t even attempt to stop it? That’s just giving up the fight!

              • You voted for Romney? Perhaps writting in Paul next time. I see your reasoning but either way it’s a waste of a vote.

          • Don’t feed the troll.

            • I’m not a troll Walt.

          • Generalizing? You mean the way most here generalize about “liberals” and “commies”?

            • I’m not so sure that’s a generalization.

              • Just the facts.

            • The Universe,

              Yes, that is right, it is easy to generalize about libs and commies because they fit into the same box, time and again, all of them.

          • Romney vs. Obama was a “setup” from the day THEY eliminated Ron Paul as a potential “ticket” candidate. Three presidential debates. Number one, Romney: Number two, a draw: Number three, Obama. Anyone seen or heard from Romney lately?

            He performed ‘his’ assigned duty with precision. And make no mistake…Romney’s assigned duty involved a second OBAMINATION!

            The “electoral process” in this facade still labeled Amerika is the supreme JOKE that continues to “prop-up-the-ILLUSION-of-choice”. Mix in the electronic “voter fraud”…and abra-kadabra: Your vote is as meaningful as your last fart! It may have “felt good”, but the effect was ultimately STINKING AND IRRELEVANT.

            ANYONE that still believes in the now totally debunked left/right paradigm…needs a “brain enema”! Obama=Bush regime on steroids. Get it?

        • Republicans huh, man are you an idiot, your Caps lock proves it.

        • PS Mr. E,
          That little button on your keyboard that says “Caps Lock,” click that once for me would you?

        • E
          i think you posted on the wrong website. i dont think there are a lot of bush lovin republicans hear you dumbass


          • @mark, to be fair, there has been alot of these types here in the past. And I do ultimately consider them one of the penultimate enemies only below the jesuit order.

            • So lets get this straight. You consider yourself one of the smartest people here on this site and your list of the greatest enemies to mankind are

              1. Them damn jews
              2. republicans

              Do I have it correct?

              • well now , i didn’t say anything about jews, now did i? Are you saying something about jews? I think you know what i mean.

                • My bust, I misread but you really didn’t improve your ideas of ‘absolute evil’. I’m not saying a thing about Jews. I’m not an anti-semite, whereas you on the other hand… Mac has deleted some real doozies from you.

                  Ok so

                  1. Catholics
                  2. republicans

                  is that correct?

                  • Its not anti-semitism when they really are out to get you.

                  • I am not going to answer any of your questions. I have called you out as what I think you are. As far as I am concerned, you are my enemy. Don’t lose sight of that sir/maam.

          • You have to admit the Bush twins are HOTT.

            • not so much

        • you’re fucked up.i’d whip your young’d cry like a fucking baby.

          • meant for eisenwhatever…

          • As a black belt, I’m sure you would whip my ass and I would cry like a baby.

            • All the black belts I know are slow to admit it, to the point of deflection. Quick to avoid a fight, not eager at all to get into one.

              When pressed on the issue they say they know how to defend themselves, but never advertise the black belt status.

              Also, every one of them says they would never, ever, pick a fight with any branch of fighting military, current or otherwise.

              Just my $0.02 fwiw

              • I don’t advertise either. I don’t look for fights. except for with pigs and military. If you like violence so much, go ahead and get you some.

                • You do everyday.

                  And you are an expert at showing how much of an idiot you are.

                • I’ll bet your mommy bitch slaps you daily Eisendouche

            • Yeah, because your snarky comment about being a black belt makes you unstoppable merely stating it… pffft
              Let’s be real here, even somebody who “Dosen’t know how to fight” can get a lucky shot in and lay anyone’s ass on the mat, (Or ground,) – one of the great variables in conflict rarely considered, and often overlooked, you sir AND I, are not exempt from the order of chaos that drives the universe…

        • Bravo. My sentiments exactly.
          It was the 9/11 false flag, done by Israel mossad along with several of our government factions that did the attacks on the WTC, pentagon, etc.
          All it took was this great shock, and people lost their minds.
          Couldn’t at least the grown men in this country see that the buildings were demolished via controlled demolition? For god sake people, we have all seen MANY buildings demolished this way.
          Where was your brain when there was absolutely no plane wreckage or body parts etc found in Pennsylvania?
          Were the hell was your brain when building 7 IMPLODED?
          And the pentagon……well, unless you are blind you could certainly see that the hole in the building was not in the shape of a plane.
          This type of KNEE JERK, stupid, gullible, put your brain in disengage and look for someone to protect you from the boogeyman response. IS EXACTLY WHAT ALLOWED ALL THIS CRAP to be implemented.
          The American citizenry needs a thorough and PROMPT education regarding false flag events.
          I suggest that someone take the initiative and create a thorough list of high quality internet sites where the average citizen can begin to educate themselves.
          Then, enlist veterans to distribute these lists. They can be placed on the windshield of cars in parking lots……at churches, grocery stores, shopping malls etc.
          I think that with the appropriate introduction and a list of high quality and credible reference sites MOST PEOPLE would spend the time at least beginning to look at the information.
          If you want to maintain control of this nation then get off your whining butts and do several of the above.
          DO NOT RELY SIMPLY ON THE INTERNET to communicate.
          DEMAND THAT YOUR POCAL AND REGIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT tell the feds to go F…themselves with regard to identifying proud americans as potential terrorists.

        • Just for the record Eisenass,
          I voted for Romney. In the system we have now, there is only a choice between the lesser of two evils. And Romney was the lesser.
          It was not US old farts that nominated him, my man was Ron Paul, who was made the class clown by The Establishment.
          Instead of ranting about us ‘old farts’, I suggest you turn your ire towards the true enemy of all the people.

          The NY-DC Establishment. There are many of us here who ‘get it’.
          The Mulatto did not WIN. The ONLY reason Dear Leader was elected was because MILLIONS of us stayed HOME. KNOWING full well what they were doing was to let the mulatto implement his reign of terror. These are the “Let it burn” ers.

          They will now get what they asked for. If we are still around complaining in 2014, my suggestion is for EVERYBODY to VOTE regardless of our opinions concerning the illusion of the left/right paradigm. There are still a few good guys holding back the storm, and Dear Leader is doing everything he can to have a democrat house of reps in 2014.

          If he gets it, it… is…. over…

          If he signs and ratifies the UN Small arms treaty, then all this is moot… and it is war.

          • I would say vote out any incumbent,,, but in some cases like has been said before, the lesser of two evils!
            and god forbid the repubs loose the house, no diff between repub or democrap in most cases other than the D or the R near their name,, but at least the R used to stand for conservative,,, now I sort of wonder,

          • Piper;
            Romney was never slated to win by the PTB. He was only a
            straw candidate to give the people the illusion of the

            Did you notice in the first presidential debate with
            Romney, how Romney came at ‘O’ with all guns ablazing,
            and the ‘O’ just sat there, smiling, looking down, maybe
            even scratching his balls, all without rebuttal or even
            a hint of defensive posture?

            I thought to myself right then, he doesn’t need to, his
            re-election was already baked into the NWO cake. Just
            like Bush before him, he’s never had an original thought
            of his own, he just lip-syncs from the PTB monitor that
            is placed in front of him. Like, chimp see, chimp do.


            • Agreed.
              I had no use for Bush either.
              I have no use for The System. Period.
              But a slower collapse gives us all more TIME….
              I think Romney at heart is a good man, but they are all beholden to the money powers.

            • By the way, I prefer “Zero” rather than ‘O’….!


          • Lesser of two evils? What? In the two major parties there is only evil. Lesser does not exist. They exist to remove your freedom and liberties, not to expand them. I would like to vote for less ignorance.

        • Eisen, I agree with you, for a change, for the most part. However, I also agree with Daisy, (below). I hated Bush with a passion!!! But I didn’t vote last election because I realized its all the same old bull s– whoever gets in office..bush,bama,bush,bamma. What’s the difference? The thing is, we’ve ALL been duped/tricked by the parties that be.

          I cannot BELIEVE the audacity of the present president! He’s taking away our rights right and left!! He makes bush look almost like a saint! So please get over the hate. It’s not helpful.

          (And you’re probably older than us… you old terd).

      6. Thank goodness I live in Canada. Hoping that our American neighbors can get this ‘sorted out’ soon before anything crazy erupts down there. Wish we had a Second Amendment to protect our rights to protect ourselves from corrupt governments like you have to face. In the meantime, me and my SKS are there to back you up from the North!

        • Canuck, don’t take this as an attack, but, what is so great about living in Canada,your Socialistic Government, has already enslaved you, with the laws were now fighting.WASP. P.S. I Love Canadians,just not your Government.

          • yes , and Stepehn Harper has, this week brought a bill that is almost identical to ACTA. It will be passed too. Make no mistake.

          • Quebec city has a heavy concentration of hot chicks.

            • ummm…delightful…

        • PC ~ I live in Canada myself. And if you think this is just an American problem, you are seriously deluding yourself.

          Aren’t you aware of the North American Perimeter agreement? That treaty allows American LEOs to act in Canada, and vice-versa.

          And don’t forget the integrated “cybersecurity” agreement in which Canada all but surrendered sovereignty to the US.

          It’s all one big consolidation effort. The border only exists as a checkpoint station now.

          Link to follow…

          • There simply is no where else to run or hide. Anywhere on earth. The greenback fever has now spread to the entire earth.

            • Some of you american folks should look into the “Idle No More” movement that began here this winter in Canada. Word is that it is going to become bigger this spring when the weather starts perking up around here and not just the native indian folks who began Idle No More. A lot of folks in Canada and in particular in my riding, are not happy with the way our government is rapidly taking control of our lives more. Government. This is our land. Back off!

              • eeder and Daisy,

                Have you lost your mind, move to Canada????????? Damn its cold there. LOL..Just kidding believe I’ll be staying right here in TX. Drone my ass at least I’ll be semi warm..


                • dps, i have not moved to Canada. I have always lived in Canada. As much as I would love to have your winter, You couldn’t pay me enough to live where you do. I guess home is home.

                • Now the upper peninsula of Michigan is a different story. That is a place I could live.

        • Proud Canuck..research NAU…North American Union.

      7. Prison Camp America.

        • Gulag Amerika…

          Glavnoe Upravlenie Ispravitel’no-trudovykh LaGerei

          (Main Administration of Corrective Labor Camps)

      8. The second the first airplane crashes as a result of a DRONE the public will then and only then revolt DRONES over the United States. 5000+ commercial and other, over our country at any given time. They want 30,000 DRONES up there as well; YOU DO THE MATH!!!

        • Pilot landing at JFK saw one yesterday, funny thing is no one knew it was in the area( so they say), and seems no one is admitting to being in controll of it..the government playing stupid again as usual

        • What’s the chance Air Force One will suck one up? We can hope.

          • biden isnt much better,,,, in fact thats a scarrry thought, mr buy a shotgun and shoot it through the door! ,,, what an idiot he is,, now Im not so sure that he is better than palin would have been, at first I thought maybe he would be better than mrs I can see russia over there, but after some of his wonderful gaffes and blunders I am not so sure,,, may have been better with the lipstick on the pig lady rather than the was once a moderate democrat guy,,, lame choices all of them.

            • Palin never said she could see Russia from her house. Tina Fey on SNL said it. Palin said you can see Russia from Alaska, which is true.

              • palin the true conservative saving her own money on healthcare 🙂

                “We used to hustle over the border for health care we received in Canada. And I think now, isn’t that ironic?” –Sarah Palin, admitting that her family used to get treatment in Canada’s single-payer health care system, despite having demonized such government-run programs as socialized medicine that will lead to death-panel-like rationing, March 6, 2010

                “But obviously, we’ve got to stand with our North Korean allies.” –Sarah Palin, after being asked how she would handle the current hostilities between the two Koreas, interview on Glenn Beck’s radio show, Nov. 24, 2010

                “He who warned, uh, the British that they weren’t gonna be takin’ away our arms, uh, by ringing those bells, and um, makin’ sure as he’s riding his horse through town to send those warning shots and bells that we were going to be sure and we were going to be free, and we were going to be armed.” –Sarah Palin, botching the history of Paul Revere’s midnight ride, June 3, 2011 …. just ….. and she was running for vp LOL just LOL

                • Yep, scarry stuff, what the hell is going on with people, soooo many freakin idiots now its just un beleiveable, just really dont see any good way out of any of this.

                • “Obama uses teleprompter to speak to 6th graders,” March 27, 2010. What’s your point? At least she gave it a shot on her own! The minute he doesn’t have help, he screws up and the truth comes out about what he is really thinking.

            • “in fact thats a scarrry thought, mr buy a shotgun and shoot it through the door! ,,,”


              Simply pandering to the proletariat….

            • Mclame hindered Palin.

          • Ain’t it amazing! 10 years ago they were crying about the airspace being to crowded, and wanted to restrict small aircraft. And now there is so much room up there, that they can put up an additional 30,000 drones. It won’t even be safe for the OTHER kind of ALIENS! WASP. KEEP YOUR 00 BUCK HANDY!

        • You are the optimist. Can’t you see that just when you think something will enrage and bind Americans together, an event or law takes place and people say “Meeh, oh well. Doesn’t affect me.” Then Late Night and networks make a comedy skit about it and all is forgotten or becomes the norm. America is doomed for failure in the short term. Things will have to get hellish and painful before your neighbors will pay any attention in any great number. A few drones killing a villiefied criminal, no one will care. Especially after the media massages the incident.
          Watched the “Running Man” last night. Incredible how similar things are to today’s society. It was a joke in 1987. People don’t care any longer.
          Also another movie “Judge Dredd” The political villain releases the primary criminal into society to cause mayhem. The people were supposed to come running to the politician for government help. Then he makes a case for a clone army. This is no different than Obama releasing the criminal immigrants from the border. Scare the people and they will do as he wishes. This was shocking movie drama in the 80’s. Now people don’t give a shit. It saddens me to watch the people in the country change before my eyes.
          You guys watch. Next when the economy worsens and people can’t afford their cable TV, there will Obama Cable Affordability Programs (OCAP) like the Obama phone. These TV programs lead the sheep and the govt get their message out by this means. Cable will be provided.
          Hate to say it, but I am ready for a painful economy. I see now that Americans are not smart enough to get this on their own. I know our lives will suck for a period, but it is a necessary evil that needs to take place. Wake the fuck up America!

        • Who is in the control room piloting the drones? Could it be the same US military personnel who would never fire on American citizens?? Time to wake up and let go of your illusions.

          • Since Comrade Barry got elected in 2008, I’ve been thrown off 2-3 site for advocating a military response. I’ve gone on 2 radio shows (one local and one national) and also called for civil war against communism.

            I’ve purchased semi-auto pistols, rifles, and large amount of ammo. I’ve purchased books on survival and military tactics. I’ve stocked up on food, water, and booze. All openly as a free person in a free country.

            Under various names I’ve posted anti-communist posts on this site.

            Because of this, I’ve had a “Telephone Van” parked down the street from my home daily. “The workmen” never get out of the van or repair anything.

            Before the 2012 election people said, “If Obama gets reelected the Republic is over”. Well, they were right.

            This man is making economic war against the Old America and is planning open warfare judging from his preparations.

            Everything I’ve written here is true, God help us!



              • “LAST VISIT/POST” God bless you all-thanks Mac

              • Soon after posting this “final” post my computer underwent some sort of “attack”? It appears that all of my files were being downloaded. I’m not that savvy, so I just pull the plug on the phone lines. Again, this is not shit. Adios.

            • I saw a USCG drone fly a pattern over our area for a few weeks,,,didnt think much about it because I had seen a USCG chopper fly the same pattern for years, as soon as I told a buddy about it in an email, I havent seen it since,,, hmmm
              then the last few days have had a bell chopper buzz the house, od green no markings, they dont get real close but close enough that I notice their pattern,, I have been pretty outspoken about my feelings on the NDAA and the local and national gun legislation and been on all these sites etc,, same as you,
              have also had some interesting looking “tourists” driving into our neighborhood lately,,
              I figure if they want to grab me they can, honestly I think they need to look elsewhere, what the hell am I going to do??? not like Im a terrorist, an just going about my business, but hey, knock yourselves out if ya want, be better to just stop by and ask me a few questions and chat for a while rather than trying to drum something up, ya wont find anything other than a bunch of vegetable growing and dust making going on.
              as the locals say Ainokea

            • god is helping us. The world has to be destroyed to full fill his prophecy.

              In Second Peter 3:10 “But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.”
              Revelation 21:1 “And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.”

          • Who says the military is operating the domestic drones? Nothing says it cannot be a contract operation. Most likley they are being operated by a company in India.

            • BigB,
              Be realistic. Do you really think the drones are being operated from some call center in India? Come on, man!! Let go of your illusions and be honest with yourself. You will never rise above this level by disregarding the truth. It only hurts for a little while.

      9. hope it don’t happen before i get my plate carrier and plate system in. course a hellfire missile up my arse would make it a non issue. Seriously, reading a book! I pray for our President.

        Stay Frosty

        • Pray for him to whom, Allah.

        • What are you praying for?

          • I pray for all of our leaders to make the right decisions especially our president, he has the power to turn this country around. Yeah, i know I’m praying for a miracle but, you never know. and to all those that gave me a thumbs down, God bless you to!

            • ROFLMFAO!!!!!!!!

            • I believe in Miracles, but I wouldn’t bet on it.

      10. I wonder if Holder is making a veiled threat to those who might consider revolting against the federal government.

        Surely they have agents reading what people are posting around the internet and how could they not know what is coming; they are causing it after all. This government is doing what governments in their final stages do, and that is increase repression in an effort to remain in control.

        When the violence comes nobody will be safe, rebels and government functionaries alike. That is how civil disturbances play out, neighbor against neighbor. I can’t imagine all those in the military supporting the government when the SHTF, nor will all local law enforcement. Look already how many County Sheriffs wrote to Obama telling him they would not enforce his laws that destroy the 2nd amendment. Look at how many states have legislation proposed to make it illegal to enforce any new gun laws. We really are a divided society.

        I don’t think the federal government is capable of dealing with a nationwide guerrilla fight. This isn’t some Union vs Confederacy where the territories are well defined. Their enemies are mixed in among them, like in Viet Nam. They can’t control people rebelling against their drug laws; they can’t control illegal immigration; they can’t control medicare or welfare fraud; they can’t even collect most of the taxes what would be paid if the law were followed to the letter. So how do they expect to use DHS or what part of the army that is loyal to control disbursed independent cells of rebels? I don’t think drones are going to do much for them.

        • ~~~We really are a divided society.~~~
          But, as you highlighted above, they will use words and we will use guns.
          Who ya think will win?

        • It is no threat, I take it as a promise. We are now arbitrarily declared a criminal based upon a tactic because we think. “Go ahead, rebel, I dare you”,that is my take on what Holder said. The games on for first blood.

        • Holder belongs chained to a post picking cotton.

      11. All we have to do is buy a bunch of boxes of Poptarts, munch out a few bites and create our own weapons of destruction. Then, sit back and collect a life time disability check for Pastry Traumatic Stress Disorder.

        • anna, don’t forget ‘twinkie traumatic stress disorder’

        • If ya get an EBT card first we can get cases of those strawberry poptarts, there fruit arent they, so healthy, and free to boot!

      12. Realist Ironic Callous Humor of a Freeman Patriot look for the Red Mist ;0P

        what i find callously humorous in all of this … is the feds , 100’s 1,000’s of POLITICIANS , Oligarch’s , Bankers and zog fedgov employee’s actually think its all okay to be doing as they are .

        more than a few feds and the rest of the thieving ZOG traitors are going to be surprised some day when out of the blue their chests suddenly blow out in a blast of red bloody mist and white bone fragments ((+)) .

        its coming … CIVIL REVOLUTIONARY WAR .




        • the term “red mist” was perverted by snipers in the military using it as another way to say Head Shot. The original meaning military wise, was when an explosion vaporized a person into nothing but red mist. In E.O.D. it is an unfortunate part of the job, to see one of your team, friends, or even just a normal troop get misted.

        • Its the Purple Haze. THAT ONE YOU NEED TO GET RIGHT.


          what i find callously humorous in all of this … is the feds , 100′s 1,000′s of POLITICIANS , Oligarch’s , Bankers and zog fedgov employee’s actually think its all okay to be doing as they are .

          The Holier than thow and look down their nose at you. And that person who knows what is best for you.
          I have a special place for them and my judgement will be swift.

          • @slingshot … i guarantee their facial expression will change to BLIND pissin their pants FEAR when they are looking up the barrel of your AR-15 black battle rifle from their torn bloody knee’s by a partially filled bloody ditch littered with the dead bodies of once free ameriKa traitors bodies of traitor treasonous politicians and thieving corrupt bankers and their henchmen .

            sometimes “Might is Right” .


      13. warning to barry soetoro

        a zog fedgov ameriKan traitor politician or banker will suffer from lead poison for every once free ameriCan citizen assassinated by a drone on ameriKan soil .

        bring it .


        • Please explain how you think what you’re threatening to do is correct if you believe what they’re threatening to do is wrong.

          • eye for an eye .

            • Oh, thats what it is!?

              So, with all the opinions on here about how these govt clowns should go to jail (yup), of course you’re consistent and think the ass clown above should go to jail?

          • EYE for an EYE .

            • You’re stupid ass should go to jail.

              • @Not so Much

                Waaaaaaaaaaa ;0P

                • I’m neither whining nor crying.

                  You’re the dolt that’s gonna end up with a ‘ZogFed’ on your front porch with a warrant for making death threats against govt agents. I’m LMAO at you. I’ll come visit your cell mate and tell him all the wonderful things you said about him. idiot.

      14. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.–Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.

        When are people going to wake the hell up. “People who will sacrifice liberty for freedom deserve neither”. B.FRANKLIN

        enough said,
        Potato out

      15. Civil War is coming—American citizens vs. DC politics.

        Washington knows this–it’s what they’re preparing for…

        • it is what I pray for, America’s only hope.

          • Listening to “talk radio” today I almost burst out laughing. The likes of Rush/Hannity ect. think that there is some magic political solution to what is happening. lol

            America is being turned into a police state, just like East Germany, The Soviet Union, or Communist China is/was.

            America will either fight for It’s life, or die these next 3 years.

            IT’S TIME TO RISE NOMI

            • The role of Hannity, Rush and O’Reilly is to keep people ignorant. They rant and rave about things, sure – but deliberately don’t go to the root of the problem: That these leaders are pure evil. Once you truly understand and address this, then you’re getting somewhere. But “Talk Radio” is just that – talk. It doesn’t accomplish anything…zero, nada, nothing. That is the purpose. Sure, rile people up, rand and rave…that’s it. Anyone over the airwaves is not there by accident – they are there by design. Anyone who is still talking Republicans and Democrats is keeping people ignorant. That’s a fairy tale. That’s why you have Piers Morgan on TV…to rile people up. Accomplishes nothing…is a distraction and side show. Same with talk radio. People need to turn the tv and radio off and stop listening to these people, get their ducks in a row and be ready.

              • cabinfever; Google ( Dr. Sam Clovis ) Educate ourselves and associate with like minded people.

                • Okay, I will.

        • A civil war is a war between two sets of people in the same society trying install one system of rule.

          Far different than an Unlawful government forcing itself on a society when the system has been rejected by the members.

        • Wouldint it be grand if they pulled the plug and gave the order and the dhs military etc drove down the road, turned around and went back and took down every single politician and appointed prick leaders and shut them all down, i know its eishful thinking, but damn, these guys and gals are Americans too, just cant believe they are all just mindless dogs that obey a rogue master,
          It will be interesting to be sure.

          • The military will split.
            Just like Roman days…




        • There will be nothing civil about it.

      17. Sorry Folks,
        That should read “People who will sacrifice Liberty for Safety deserve neither” It is hard to type when your eyes are bleeding from this crap.

        Potato out

      18. sixpack,

        If you don’t mind me asking, what brand transceivers did you get and the backup comm devices. I don’t much about ham radio – looks easy for them to check us out with whatever we use.

        Y’all Beware! Lasers are an option – might be better than smoke signals. Anyone got some alternatives? We’re gonna’ need ’em soon!

        • I have two 2-way capable, and two separate monitoring devices. The first is

          I also have and emergency radio that can transmit to a channel you choose, so it can interact with the transceiver.

          I also have an emergency radio and an old battery operated TV/AM/FM unit that tunes in many of the same frequencies as the radios.

          Here’s a good learning link:

          I researched my options for several months before I committed my funds, with my focus on interoperability and flexibility.

        • Might be better with a hand held ham, amazon has them starting around 40$ i think the distance will be better and im pretty sure you can rig up a wire antenna that will give you incredible range. Those VHF and UHF radios are ok, but not real reliable, only work line of sight, a ham can get rigged to skip the signal off the ionosphere? If im not mistaken, get the technician exam booklet too and you can get the full scoop, test is easy to memorize, unless you want to outlaw using it, but id suggest license first then get creative once you have it wired and make contacts.

      19. I don’t KNOW much about ham radio.

        Y’all Beware! my bad.

      20. I’m printing up my Wanted posters as we speak. If I might be on the receiving end of a Predator launched hellfire missile, I don’t give a damn about political correctness.

        • 1st Amendment protects your “RIGHT” to be politically incorrect.

          Then again most of the self absorbed are incorrect.

          • Unfortunately holder et al dont give a crap about the first second third or any other one of our constitutional rights, they operate under the NDAA framework that gives them the power to do what they want, SCOTUS and the other branches of gov are all corrupt so we dont really have any recouse either. Sad days these are.

      21. Ya’ll know how I feel about this.

        And any leader who thinks this same thought process for using arms like this , against them cant happen, needs a reality check

        NOMI MFers

        • Unrelated:

          Sean Penn, Michael Moore, et al grieved over Chavez and said America lost a friend we never knew we had, but I don’t recall a stampede to emmigrate to Venezuela.

      22. Im wondering if the reason for all these drones is because the US government, namely DC has gone around the world pissing in every counties corn flakes, and now they are worried about ive said before, dont start nothin’ wont be nothin’ these are acts of scared people with lots of money, our money

        • Obama, Holder, et al want to push as hard as they can without completely tanking USA economically. If we’re all staying home from work, the money river dries up.

      23. And yet, they still cant control or contain our southern border..

        Im thinking because they dont want to…on purpose

        lets see..arm the cartels..feed them drug money ( CIA) dealing in drugs..and arms, unsecure word of using these to stop the border crossings, just use them on our own Citizens..sounds about right for the clowns

        you’d have to be blind not to see where this is all heading

        • Holder needs the border unsecured to continue feeding his bankroll. Big O’s legacy revealed the genius behind opening the border for next generation liberal voters. Mark my word, there are no limits and Obama will “run” again. But jokes are on him! there won’t be an America left for him to destroy, buwahahaha!

      24. The time is getting very close to take out the trash, very close indeed.


        “”I am very concerned that this technology will be used against law-abiding American firearms owners,” said founder and executive vice president of the Second Amendment Foundation Alan Gottlieb. “This could violate Fourth Amendment rights as well as Second Amendment rights.”

        well of course this technology will be used against US citizens
        thats what it was designed for

      26. ARTICLE 1…”The privilege of the writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended UNLESS when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it.”(My caps) So there it is. Due process will be taken away at the whim of the current “Commander in Chief”. All that remains is for his Ivy League bought and paid for “lawyers” to determine who they consider to be rebelling. You have already been determined to be an enemy of the state. Hedge accordingly.

      27. Long overdue for a false flag event. The next one will have 90% of Americans clamoring “save us, save us”. All this bravado about us vs. the g’ment. Yes, after you fight your way through 300 million of your neighbors first. Fear makes people stupid, on both sides.

        • Yep, starting to think lay low and utilize resources wisely, its all going to be real interesting, real dicey, but interesting.

      28. If Janet Reno had a Drone she would have bombed the Waco Compound Instead of just burning it to the ground. (all in the name of gun control)

      29. IMPEACHMENT and ARREST is what should be happening right now but they know the people have become mindless sheep waiting to be led from reality show to sports programming and back!! When things fall apart they’ll use DDRONES to spot the hold-outs and then send in the troops! Escape all cities before the first Nuclear War begins! Buy land with lots of trees for best drone defense!

      30. They’ve been working on the urban and metropolitan areas for years, installing cameras and other surveillance equipment.

        They need the drones to keep an eye on those of us who live more out in the sticks. And to think for one second that they wouldn’t use armed drones to attack American citizens is inane. The DHS, state and local police–whatever, pretty much do as they wish now. They’ve done it for years.

      31. Read UN Small Arms Treaty: March 18 – 28 2013, If Ratified, The 2nd Amendment Will Be Gone (Video)

        before its news dot com

        • “Many Americans can feel the tension in the air lately. With all the military maneuvers, military equipment being transported around the nation.

          Then people are asking why all the UN Vehicles in the US?

          Today it was announce that the Department Of Homeland Security just purchased 2700 MRAP’S , Mine Resistant Armor Protected Vehicles. On top of 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition. It sure seems something big is about to happen. Add the Obama administrations relentless desire to disarm America and could this be the makings of a revolution, a civil war to come?

          What many Americans don’t realize is that there is one more UN Small arms meeting coming to America’s shores this coming March 18th through the 28th. Could this be the end of private gun ownership in America as we know it?

          Reuters reports that within hours of his securing his reelection, President Obama ordered the U.S. United Nations delegation to vote in favor of a UN proposal to fast track an international gun control treaty.”

          beforeitsnews dot com

          • Theres your false flag event, if theyll blow up a couple skyscrapers, theyll certainly gun down a bunch of foreign diplomats, and there is the reasoning to bring foreign troops to our doorsteps. I hope to hell im wrong but????

        • International treaty does not super seed the Constitution. If is violates the Constitution it is not law.

          “Where exactly does the Constitution delegate the federal government the power to regulate firearms? It doesn’t. Some will argue that the federal government has some regulatory authority under the Commerce Clause. But, we have the Second Amendment, which puts further restrictions on the federal government. Note the most important phrase in the 2nd Amendment – “shall not be infringed.” Infringe means to interfere with. That doesn’t leave any wiggle room.”

          Jefferson said the states “are not united on the principle of unlimited submission to their general government.” And that the “government created by this compact (the Constitution) was not made the exclusive or final judge of the extent of the powers delegated to itself.”

          Nullification is the answer.

          • “super seed”


            • Made it through English… barely. My talents lie elsewhere.

              • lol. Understood.

            • Isnt it “Supersede”?…not correcting you just askin…off the top of my head…

          • Right On!

          • Once more for the record, the original Constitution does not apply to you. The modified constitution that exists as an advisory document to the corporation known as THE UNITED STATES, does apply to you if you have consented or declared yourself as a person. In other words, if you have a birth certificate, a SS#, drivers liscense, paid taxes at least once, etc. And your rights are, and have been, liened (as in inalienble, not unalienable).

            In their minds they are doing nothing wrong as they are acting to protect and preserve the corporation. The difference is that while they had you playing the board game LIFE, they were playing the board games MONOPOLY and RISK with you as the collateral.

            • The only problem that I see with their contract with us is that it was not executed in good faith. Did they explain to anyone at birth the purpose of a BC or even your parents? Did they explain that the hospital receives a payment from the Feds. to sign you up? Did they inform you that you were giving up your RIGHTS for their privileges? Did they ask you if they could change your SS contract? I

              Now that I have read and understand their contracts I want out.

            • Evening All,

              Tak, tsk…This is all PERFECTLY understandable if you only consider ONE simple truth; “We the People” are just the PROPERTY of the Corp. See! Now doesn’t that make you feel better already? Doesn’t that completely explain it ALL?

              The attitude of those at the ‘top’ can scarce be given any credence at all…the continuous ignoring of the Constitution, the high-handed tactics, the corruption of every governmental agency – broadly – in the interest of Corporate America…until you understand that one lil bitty fact of thier mentation…give me a counter-example if you can. This is why they can simply dsipense with all this fooishness relative to little ol’ things like the Constitution and Unalienable rights and all that silly stuff….”Ptoperty” doesn’t have any rights, does it? Dwell on that for a bit…


              • Maritime vs. Common Law. Should be taught in first grade. Forgot they run the schools.

          • ~~~Treaties do not confer powers not authorized by the Constitution…Constitution trumps treaties of any kind, with any nation, by any powers.~~~

            • The will of the people is going to be the end all of this mess, when the smoke clears i hope there were enough of us who said NO!

        • It think I read something in the past–some prophecy– about America being split into two nations. Perhaps this will take place.

          There is a video on You Tube in which Dannion Brinkley, (who had a NDE) talks about the military being split in two and going to war with one another. I would highly recommend VETS seeing this video.. very interesting! (I love Dannion’s cool!!) He talks about why vets coming back from war are sometimes targeted by TPTB.

      32. Isaiah was weeping for this time of Jacob’s Trouble.

      33. Societal Law #1: If they can…they will.

        Start digging.

      34. As a veteran of the Nam era, 30+ year entrepreneur, peace-minded, non-aggression principled man that has written my reps too many times to count, it’s about all I can do just pay my living expenses, let alone prosper.
        They’re completely off the reservation, in my opinion.
        I read once that righteous anger is your body telling you it’s time to act.
        Somehow…..these pricks need to have the fear of God put in them.

        • Anger is energy. You can suppress it (in which case it causes depression). Or you can take it out on others (in which case you lose a bunch of friends) or… You can DIRECT it at the problem which is causing the anger. Its actually a gift. However, its very powerful and its very important we use it wisely.

      35. You scabs of the earth will conform to our new constitution .You will be like slaves in mine, digging and dieing and bringing the goods to to the surface for us to acquire .We tax you, push you, beat you down, strip your rights and make you the surf’s you are meant to be ! Yes, we know at some point you will rebel but we will have conditions so bad you will literally beg us to help you when your starving to death and homeless and all of your so called leaders are in camps or dead . Most of you wont last 6 weeks in the situation we have planned . You should have learned that we can drag our feet to help anybody, like Katrina . Let the poor bury the poor and the dog eat the dog saves us the headache . Watch what occurs this summertime ? It is almost complete and you cant stop it because what is planned is always done .We are going to lower your standards of living slowly, slowly and then wham over the top and down you go ! Welcome to the New World Order , its already here and set up now to finish the plan!

        • Hmmm.

          Proof positive the democrat party was and is only about slavery.

        • Ah yes.
          And then you will come out of the closet and I will shoot you.
          If I can get more than 2 of you, before you get me, then I can die in peace.

      36. How did we go from “that government is best, which governs least” to a ban on big sugary drinks? People are walking zombies these days. Internet, cell phone, Facebook, Dancing With the Stars. We have become impotent, ignorant idiots. Today’s man has 25% of the sperm count of previous generations. Look it up.

        • It’s unfortunate that your father was included in the previous generation.

      37. Apparently DHS has only 16 MRAPs…not 2700.The story is being merged with the fact that the Navy ordered 2717 MRAPs on Jan 9,2012. They are for the Marines. Defense contract no. 015-12 shows the procurement order. Go to for a screen shot and an explanation of the story. Some of these websites are not doing any fact checking .

        • I went to the website. It identifies all patriot groups as racists, first and foremost. It also makes in inference that the 2717 vehicles maybe be for the USMC. SPLC is featured time and again in the articles. So it’s clearly a progressive-leaning site. In light of recent illuminations regarding NWO and the illuminati, and the fact that blacks are getting it worse and worse under Obama, that the entire left-right paradigm needs to be rejected. That would include the website you referenced.

          The interesting thing with tgat website is it marginalized just about everyone that doesn’s agree with them, which suggests an intellectual weakness. As in Marxism (false consciousness) and Christianity (heretic or apostate labeling), it has to build up its legitimacy by breaking down other positions–and thus crushes free-thinking.

          • Well, I didn’t reference the site for its political leanings…I don’t know what they are. They do have the link and the shot of the Navy order for 2717 MRAPS and I haven’t seen any other proof that DHS ordered any. I did see the ammo orders from FEMA but not this DHS order. Where can I see that procurement order for that?

            • Thanks very much for a very thoughtful answer. I don’t have any info regarding the procurement order, although I did spend a little time yesterday trying to find one. Take care.

        • TO: JRS. On the comme fox news network this morning,a retired general was resiting the same figures.and asking what does the department of the DHS need with those anyway.
          AND 1.6 BILLION

      38. I know this song is not to the taste of many in here but check out the subliminal message telling us Barry would be president about 20 years after. At 0:37 there is the first sign , “DC’s in the house , jump , jump for joy” and than at about 1:01 they show Barry Sotoro.

        • The cover story that has been used is that Obama isnt Obama at 1:01. They have created a ficticious rapper who goes by the name of L.A. Sno. That is Barry tho. Just kind of find it interesting how the Jesuits were sending us more messages, Dc, and the dark side are in the house, and that is Obama.

      39. I can hear the thunder…There’s a storm comin…….

      40. What do you think the repercussions would be for shooting these down if you spot one??

        • I would wear ear protection.

      41. This is no surprise. The contempt this government holds for freedom loving individuals is beyond calculation. Each passing day there is a new law.
        New military hardware to be used in a clandestine civilian status and the justification of those implimentations as vital to OUR National Security. It is their security they worry about, not OURS.
        Won’t be long before we go at it.

        • Remember that all these traitors in the gov have human bodies that are vulnerable too. We do not have to be victims. If we are to be victims then they will be too.

      42. Got this in an E-mail:

        Obama is my shepherd; I shall not work.
        He keepth jobs out of the hands of the people,
        Which leadeth the country to class warfare and polarization.
        He encourageth sloth; he leadeth the government to new heights in deficit spending.
        Yea, though I walk in the shadow of Economic collapse,
        I shall fear no depression: for Obama is with me.
        His handouts and monetary indiscretion supplement my income.
        He maintainest spending increases in the presence of insurmountable debt;
        He punisheth businesses with excessive regulations;
        And giveth the hard-earned fruits of labor to the unproductive.
        Surely, handouts and stimulus payments shall follow all the days of his administration;
        And I will stay unemployed forever.


      43. Not sure what the point of this is except maybe just to point out to everyone just how its going to be now and to go ahead and protest and see what happens.

        As i have been saying since election day, save your dimes and nickels, no telling how far we go down this rabbut hole. And it’s going to go even further in 2014 when obamacare is in for good.

        I heard an ironic report of the death of Chavez today. It said that they expected the govt of that countrys redistribution of wealth and thuggisness would continue and i wondered just how different venezula is from the US anymore.

      44. A note to all drone pilots and other NWO toadies……

        “If your enemy is in range, so are you.”

      45. These drones are not without their limitations. The Iranians have already proven this by shooting down a few drones and electronically hijacking the most advanced drone in use in the Middle East. plus, the Air Force has supposedly experienced electronic and engine failures with some of the drones. The biggest threat, I believe, will come from Obama’s “civilian national security force” aka DHS and any “UN peacekeepers” who appear in our country. Holder’s announcement on the drones is only another example of the federal government showing their evil intentions toward the American people. Target acquisition is a double-edged sword. It works both ways. If a drone gets within range of my M1 Carbine, I claim the right to shoot it down in self-defense. Anyone who targets me for any reason and shows no legitimate basis for doing so, expect to get targeted in return. I have a legitimate, natural, God-given right to self-defense and will use it if forced into such a situation. NOMI CATIMF LFOD Braveheart

        • Shet de feck ep bastidge !

      46. Does any one know which states are supporting the constitution? I plan to move soon and want to make sure I’m in one of the United States of the Constitution (AS OPPOSED TO THE UNITED SOCIALIST/FASCIST STATES OF BAMABUMMERBUSHBIDEB BULLCRAP. THANKS!

        • Texas and wisconsin seem to be the 2 best left. florida, ohio and virginia all just gave into obamacare; but every state has problems imo. there’s people in charge acting as they see fit all over. either the US is going to push back when things really get economically unbearable or it goes off into the great socialist countries ala the rest of europe never to return.

          given the 2012 election, i’m not optimistic.

          • Not even close.

            Wisconsin is the original home of american progressive and communist left. I’m completely amazed that Scott Walker hasn’t already been offed by the rabid left in that state.

            And Texas… I’m scratching my head how you’d think that, given the news stories about schools RFIDing their kids, teaching outright communism, multiple videos of cops baselessly sticking their hands down their citizens’ pants on the side of the road, Rick Perry’s support of the trans texas corridor, etc etc. I think Tx will be blue within the next decade.

            Probably somewhere along the lines of Idaho, Wyoming, Alaska and Utah. Maybe the Dakotas.

            • Don’t write us off in Wisconsin quite yet 🙂 . Once you get outside the gravitational fields of the liberal motherships of Dane and Milwaukee counties (and the non-stop Star Wars bar scenes there) we’re not bad folks. Walker received more votes in that ridiculous recall, than in his election.

            • Yeah, I don’t know what happened with Texas. Not what I expected, at all. Lady of the Lake is actually pretty accurate. Most of Indiana and western Ohio are relatively normal and the climate is so much better than the Dakotas, which has extremes of both summer and winter. Just stay away from the Illinois border because it may suck you in. I kind of like Oklahoma, after the drought cycle runs its course. Back to the Mid-west, taxes are lower in Indiana than they are in Ohio and Indiana politicians don’t seem quite as insane. (I live in Ohio, so I have a good idea what I’m talking about.) Good luck wherever you go!

          • Indiana’s not bad so far. There are a few blue counties, but overall the state is holding relatively strong for the Constitution and for individual rights. It’s also got a fair amount of freshwater access, which will probably become important when the SHTF. And the cost of living is lower in most parts of the state.

            • Does that mean there are zero red counties and the rest are INDEPENDENT!!

              • I wish, SD. But we’ve had libertarian candidates make some relatively strong showings, and there are some good bartering clubs springing up (there’s an excellent one in SW Michigan, not far across the border from me), plenty of local farmers to buy from, a strong Constitutionalist base, raw milk to be had, good fertile land, and we make a good showing on the SPLC conservative terrorist groups list, haha. If we could give Lake County to Illinois life would be better, but overall this state has surprised me in some positive ways.

      47. Worth reading again.

        Hi Wilson,

        Agreed, it is coming,.. and very soon.

        Here is an article I wrote on this very subject and how people will need to make the dicision of their lives at that moment.

        Article: The Coming Fight


        My Fellow Americans, Patriots and Fighters,

        After reading the article on your site, “Will You Fight”?, and the myriad of responses, I thought it may be worthwhile to point out a few considerations on what will become the most important question,… and action Americans will be taking in the near future, which is:

        “Will you fight?”

        Let me first state, it seems to be a mathematical certainty at this point, that a civil war, or revolutionary war is a foregone conclusion. Not because decent Americans insist on one, but because our wholly criminal, and no longer legimate gov’t is bent on making one occur.

        When this subject is discussed, the typical response has been anything from “Jesus will save”, to “I will die fighting if necessary”.

        Herein lies one of those commonly stated perspectives that I would like to try and get Patriots, Americans and other would be fighters to consider.

        Instead of saying, “When they come for my guns, I will die fighting….”

        Let us start saying: When they come for my guns,.. they are going to get killed.”

        This little shift in perspective is more than symantics, its sets a whole new physchological paradigm that will grow and expand in our thoughts and actions with time, and one that will help foster a sense of need and morality of our actions when that time comes.

        As for actual fighting, allow me to put forth a few thoughts for consideration:

        When the first physical confrontation happens,… it will only be the begining.

        Even if we took the country back today, without a single shot, the fact is, the laws of economics will assert themselves, and their will be hard times ahead. It tooks decades to destroy our economic base,.. and you can be sure it will take a decade or more to restore it,.. and that would be in a “perfect world”

        Problem: We will not take this country back in a single day, and this is not a perfect world.

        Our necessity, as Patriots and Americans,.. is to stay alive and maintain a posture of Mission-Capable.

        This means NOT getting ourselves killed, injured or wounded to the best of our abilities.

        As Patton said, you don’t win by dying,…you win by killing. Mission Effectivness criteria dictate that you need to be alive and fully capable in order to be fully mission capable at any time.

        This means you need to keep a low profile, retain your stocks & stores, do not do anything to draw attention to yourself, and quietly, seek out others who are of the same mindset.

        We know what is coming,.. it is our job to hold fast, and let them make the first overt moves. Give them every chance to expose their weaknesses, allow them to feel overconfident, let them think they may win this easily,….

        Of course I have not yet addressed the whole point of,.. “what if they come to YOUR house and demand your guns?”

        Well,.. this depends on what preparations you have made.
        Did you hide them before hand,… are they right there in your safe room or bedroom? Is this happening across the country or your state? Has civility alreadyt broken down. Do you have children who depend on you?, what about a wife? Do you have the advantage at that moment?
        In short,.. there is no right answer for any given individual.

        As I have discussed before here, and on Henry’s show, you need to decide your “threshold moment” NOW,.. before that trigger event (or a similiar one) has materialized.
        This “Threshold Event”, MUST be carefully considered, as you are going to make it your “automatic response” event, which will also be your “all-in” event, so let me annotate just a few considerations:

        1) The moment you decide to fight back, you now have a completely different attitude towards life, this government, and the role it now serves (you now understand this gov’t is completely criminal and will not put up with it anymore).

        2) The moment you decide to point a firearm,… or ANY weapon at ANY representative of this gov’t, you have gone, “all-in”… & they now view YOU as the criminal! (How dare you to even THINK of fighting back!)

        3) Now that you have openly displayed a notion of self defense, and an unwillingness to accept any further destitutions or abuses, you have placed these gov’t thugs in response mode.

        4) This criminal gov’t will see it as its MANDATE to eliminate any persons or signs of resistance.

        5) Once you have crossed that Threshold-Moment, and point any weapon at any gov’t agent, they will see it as there job to exterminate you (in the most brutal fashion possible), or to arrest you and make a circus out of it. Either act, will be done with the intention to intimidate all others.

        6) They will try to kill you, or try to imprision you for life while taking full advantage of its propaganda value, in addition, they may destroy your home, blowing it up, or burning it, or may simply “sieze” it, as that is one of their ultimate objectives anyway.

        That is a just a few considerations.

        The reality is, once this starts, it will be protracted process, it may drag on for months, even years, so do not be anxious to join the fray to quickly, there will be time for that. Apply critical thinking skills to analyze the situation as best as conditions permit,.. always.

        Am I saying to NOT fight?

        No,.. absolutely not,… just that it should not a knee-jerk type reaction.

        There will be long term consequences to any set events however they unfold, and our goal is to maintain a mission ready capability as long as possible, to retain our home and productive means as best as possible, and to understand this will be a protracted process.

        In the end, it may come to down to an instant sh*t fight, with little to no time to think anything over, hence why it is best to know your line of demarcation now, and what is your potential “all-in” scenarios, as we may all be facing that very soon indeed.

        Get ready, talk this over with your loved ones, friends, and neighbors you can trust. We will all be needing each other more than ever very soon.

        Good luck to each and everyone of you Patriots and true Americans.

        Your Fellow Patriot – JD – US Marine Fighting Tyranny

        – See more at:

        • Many Thanks slingshot!!

          Good work digging that up!


      48. Oh give me a home,
        Where a Predator drone
        Can come down from the sky any day.
        And when only a word
        From Obama is heard
        It will send a Hellfire my way.

        Home, home USA
        Where the drones fill the skies every day
        Where your email and tweets
        Turn you into dead meat
        When suspected by the NSA

        • Thanks, Satori, you’re right- you need a drink or two before reading!

          What infuriates me about him (among numerous other things!)is the fact that he basically outlawed protesting! He wouldn’t even BE president if it hadn’t been for Martin Luther King protesting and now he wants to outlaw it??! What can he be thinking?! He’s a *$#^_* hypocrite.

          Another thing: he KNOWS what the second amendment is for. He’s not stupid, no matter what some of you may think. He’s not stupid. He’s a Constitutional lawyer yet has the nerve to say how he doesn’t want to take away our right to shoot deer. He knows damn well the second amendment is not about shooting skeet, or whatever the heck he shoots. He KNOWS WHAT ITS FOR! And he insults our intelligence, talks down to us about shooting deer! Disgusting!

      49. The SPLC today issued a call for Eric Holder to begin a crackdown on conspiracy theorists and to mobilize all available federal resources to “devote to this threat.”

        • boo hoo … da’ jooo’s @da’ splc … are getting scared ;0P

        • Who cares what the Southern Pimp Losers Commies say!
          Mark Potak can suck on my 45….ala Ted the Nooge!

          Semper Fi

      50. When torture is outsourced to thugs under the label of “extraordinary rendition”, it shows that the word “extraordinary” can mean anything they want it to mean.
        Drones will be used on American citizens in the U.S..
        Count on it.

        • BK

          If King George had an armed drone Old City Philadelphia in general and Independence Hall in specific would have been leveled.

          Their Goals:

          1. To know where you are.
          2. To know who you meet with.
          3. To know what you discuss.
          4. To be able to terminate the participants at will.

      51. sorry, but you are wrong; obama like many other black democrats has used the black people to his advantage. as per usual under big govt types, life has gotten tougher under obama for blacks than almost any other race.

        using that term to vent your anger against obama doesnt apply. he cares as little for blacks as he does for everybody else.

        • Not to mention that referring to obama with that term makes him sound every bit the uneducated retard as the uneducated retards he’s talking about.

          • That Id fits Notso much and if you had any balls youd know how pissed people are when you use the word retard. Whats that thing on the pot gettin called black? Or am I a racist for bringing up the pot color now?

            This pussy society sure did get a bunch of you to go limp. You think about that, and then grow a set. If you had them youd get a better Id Notso much.

            • “if you had any balls youd know how pissed people are when you use the word retard… This pussy society sure did get a bunch of you to go limp”

              Logical thinking apparently isn’t your strong suit. I’m betting you dont even understand the incoherence of your little rant. Why doncha step away from the keyboard and sober up a little bit then come back when you can get a coherent insult put together in that feeble little brain of yours.


              • Thank you, Not So Much! That was so cool!!! Ha, ha, ha, ha! (It pains me when I hear that kind of talk– coming from the mouth of a black person, white person, hispanic or whatever… its just plain ignorance!

                • I mean really! How many ways can we despise someone without even coming close to the color of their skin.

              • I agree “Not So Much” I noticed bravehart acts the same way when he rants. Sound like my alcoholic Uncle, F*CKED UP, ANGRY, AND SO DRUNK, he cant see straight.

            • BTW 50BMG, compensating much “big guy”.

        • @lena
          No! 50BMG used the word idiots and not Blacks so he was all including. All races that put Obama in office.
          It is payback time for the blacks on whitey and they have to toys to do it.

        • Obammy uses any one he needs to and he ain’t like most of them other politicans or theyd have beat him to the WhiteHouse.

        • That might get a tad difficult to cover in the US but not impossible. If the body politic bought the “magic bullet” with JFK then the below reasons are plausible when a missile strikes a residence.

          1. Gas leak
          2. Space rock
          3. Sinkhole with thunder. (No storm? Climate change)
          4. Meth Lab blew up

          The bottom line is the public will believe anything.

      52. There was a time when I would call such talk racist.
        Now, is not that time.
        In the Bible, the original meaning of the phrase “nation shall rise against nation”, was changed by the Catholic writers of the Canon. In the Greek it was “ethnos”. So the proper translation of that means;

        ETHNIC shall rise against ETHNIC.

        We see it happening.

        • great, just great.

          add that to asteroids striking earth, sinkholes and obama talking up tensions vs iran. my end timesometer is hitting the redline. i sure hope its wrong.

      53. Everyone..yes you too..
        everyone file a law suit against our governemnt..we can bury them in thier own red tape.

        even if we only got 30% of the population to file a law suit against any and all of these government actions, we would have them in such a quagmire

      54. Here are some illuminating Holder and Obama quotes to ponder. As can be seen, they have been quite PUBLIC and frank in expressing their hostility to European Amerikans.

        “I am not the tall U.S. Attorney; I am not the thin United States Attorney; I am the Black United States Attorney…. No matter how successful you are, there’s a common cause that bonds the Black United States Attorney with the Black criminal or the Black doctor [or] with the Black homeless person…”

        — Eric Holder in 1996, quoted by J. Christian Adams, former attorney for the Voting Rights Section / U.S. Department of Justice, in “Injustice: The Racial Agenda of the Obama Justice Department.” Chicago, Henry Regnery Co., 2011


        “When you compare what people endured in the South in the 60s to try to get the right to vote for African-Americans, and to compare what people were subjected to there to what happened in Philadelphia–which was inappropriate, certainly that—to describe it in those terms I think does a great disservice to people who put their lives on the line, who risked all, for my people.”

        — U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, in Congressional testimony justifying the US DOJ’s inaction regarding the New Black Panther Party’s physical intimidation of White voters in Philadelphia during the 2008 Presidential election, March 1, 2011


        “If [black] nationalism could create a strong and effective insularity, deliver on its promise of self-respect, then the hurt it might cause well-meaning whites, or the inner turmoil it caused people like me, would be of little consequence.”

        — Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro, 44th President of the United States, in “Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance,” New York: Times Books, 1995, p. 1995


        These are the chief law enforcement officers of “our” country, and they have made their intentions toward us very plain.

        Sanctimonious avoidance of the racial question in present-day Amerika is the avoidance of reality. Whites are defamed as racists by seething racists, and are now apparently being marked for death.

        • I can only imagine the outcry from the progressives if John Ashecroft had said he was the attorney general for whites.

        • They, and thier parasite owners, want White Genocide.

      55. This is just the latest sip of Kool Aid the American people have been given by our elected officials. Unchecked government spending? Sip. Second Amendment erosions? Sip. Criminals catered to by a CJ system that is out of touch with reality? Sip. And the list goes on.

        By offering us a sip at a time, we become so accustomed to the taste (over an extended period of time) that once we finally realize that we’ve become ill…well…it’s just too late.

        I feel sick as hell now!

      56. They have no problem writing checks (Egypt/world) and don’t care that there isn’t any balence. I’ve been offered to be a pinball wizard many times.

        • “It’s a holiday in Cambodia, where paople dress in black…” – The Dead Kennedys

      57. Yes, I could see them being used against Muslim terrorists on US soil. The problem is, they’ll most likely be used against native-born non-muslim US citizens who are politically opposed to Obama. Like gun owners, Christians, and Tea Party people sometime after the coming collapse.

      58. All these drone missions overseas were simply training missions for within the US. They have honed their skills and gotten the kinks worked out. It will be tough years ahead.
        Amen to whoever said that there is no political route out of this. The repubs can hang it up. The dumbasses just don’t get it. First Romney was sold to us. FAIL. Now I see that fatass Christie thinks he’s the man. Then yesterday I see limpdick Bush from Fla saying he might be the man. The party doesn’t have a prayer. I would vote Hillary over any of these frontrunners. At least the country can fail under the moniker of a Democrat. Unf–kingbelievable.

        • ditto that.

          i still cannot believe that the country that took the USSR down just 25 years ago now looks to be doing its best to imitate it.
          i think my gandadfaher, who watched japan sign its surrender from the uss missouri; would not believe what the US has become.

          • lena

            I’m 55 years old and I have difficulty believing what the US has become.

      59. So I am to believe that prepping food, guns, ammo, and other worldly thing to live your life makes you a terrorist??? Hummmmmm an interesting theory to say the least. OK so guess I’m a terrorist. Keep prepping folks and don’t believe everything you hear.

        • Mallard, I like how Mike Ruppert put it: “IF YOU KNOW WHAT’S HAPPENING, YOU’RE A TERRORIST.” (He wrote “Crossing the Rubicon- the fall of the American Empire at the end of the Age of Oil”.

      60. When civil unrest begins, and it will when Americans have had enough of the tyranny, drones and the UN Rapid Response Police will be the first responders. They already consider any citizen that “preps” or lives a self-reliant lifestyle a terrorist. When they declare martial law in an area, they will use it as an excuse to “secure” that place. They are using UN Agenda 21, sustainable development, to herd us like cattle/sheep into urban areas. Drones are a perfect way to hit pockets of resistance. Then add the 2,700 tanks and 2+ billion bullets DHS just purchased to the mix. They have the population of the US covered by air and on the ground. Then add the monitoring technology of our phones and computers. When the whole puzzle is put together, we are looking at the destruction of the greatest country in the world. We are on the cusp of a civil war both militarily and religiously. Should there be a civil war, it will be unlike anything anyone has ever known with the complete annihilation of any resistance to the regime as its goal. There is no where to go, no where to hide. I feel like we are all just sitting ducks.

        • Then we improvise, overcome, and adapt, like any good soldier.


        • I absolutely agree with you. Feels as though the longer we wait, the more prepared the gov’t will be. Some speak of our servicemen and oath-takers being on the side of the Constitution, but let me say this: Regardless of how strongly one may oppose this tyranny; if the well-being of your family is resting on your ability to follow orders (to kill Citizens), what can you expect from a man, husband, and father?!

          Give this gov’t 2 more years and this is what you will have. You’re either working for them and surviving, or you’re against them and dying. Resist now to have any chance at winning and restoring America. Unfortunately, we lack a face and leader to initiate.

        • No, they want you to see yourself as a duck…sitting there,frozen in fear quacking pitifully as you waddle in circles…if you see yourself like this they already beat you…Im not trying to critizize,I understand how it feels,how it looks….theres alot of truth to the saying that attitude is half the battle…a wise friend used to say,”The man who thinks he can and the man who thinks he cant…theyre both right”…I think I can…if they get me then so be it but I refuse to see myself as an ant or a grasshopper or a duck and them as some undefeatable cosmic force…if we all think we can and then act in accordance we cant lose…besides if we try and die we wont be judged harshly for that…at least we tried…the only ones who condemn us are those who seek our defeat…who cares what they say/think?…”Live free or die tryin”

      61. If you breathe oxygen and are not in the top 1%, you’re a terrorist.

        Pretty damn much.

        • @ Theguy,

          “BINGO!!…give that Man a cigar!!!” /NOSARC


      62. The 5th Amendment regarding due process makes an exception in “time of War or public danger”. I think that was what Holder was saying.

        • Especially that major exception…

          White patriots.

      63. I now wish we’d voted in the Republican candidate (well… I wish RON PAUL but barring that…)

        Not because he’d be better.

        Because none of this would stop and suddenly everyone would get it through their thick skull.

        There are no turn-outs on this road.

        • agree 100%, the last exit was election day 2012.

          not that the collective gop wouldve stopped whats coming economically or wouldve reversed the expanding state, but at least they were paying attention that it was a bad road.

          not sure where this road ends but we’re taking it all the way now.

          • The GOP STARTED this crap under Bush.

            We might be $14 trillion in the hole instead of $16 trillion. Aside from that? I don’t think anything wuld have been any different.

      64. There are some serious problems with understanding the Constitution by the media, and our elected and appointed officials. The government doesn’t have “Rights.” Only individuals have rights. The government has powers. And only those that which we give it.

        So, Mr. Holder’s argument is illogical on its face.

      65. What is the lethal range of a 44 mag coming out of a 7 inch scoped pistol? I hear that the drones have software to pick out people with rifles and shottys. I would like to not be a target at all times. Got to start thinking outside the boxes that the govt makes for us.

        • RC airplaine.

          Video feed.


      66. Cowboy45, I meet all the criteria in your post. So I’m in the best of company. Eeder and Eisenkreuz, I realize both of you make some valid points. It’s the way you present those points that turns everyone off. Please, don’t start acting like Finx or JoeinNC.

      67. {{{to use such force if necessary to protect the homeland in the circumstances like a catastrophic attack like the ones suffered on September 11, 2001.}}}

        But you had NORAD. Nuff said.

      68. The Quote of the Decade:

        “The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government cannot pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that, ‘the buck stops here.’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”

        ~ Senator Barack H. Obama, March 2006

        NOMI EVER

      69. I was studying some photos of the MRAPS at, looking for vulnerabilities. Can anybody with heavy machinery/mechanics skills chime in here please?

        I saw what looked to me, like a forward drive shaft in one pic. Are these vehicles ALL wheel drive or 4-wheel drive? The difference being that you can disengage a malfunctioning 4wd unit, but an AWD depends on both?

        Also, the third member(s) appear to be unshielded or unprotected with armor.

        Does anyone know if the fuel line can be accessed externally? Is it possible to get schematics on this type of vehicle?

        The wheels themselves look uninterruptible and the armor impenetrable by relevant means. I’m just looking…and curious.

        • I am thinking at a minimum put a few 30-06 or 300 win mag rounds thru the diffs. Also some form of paintball splatter in large doses to the small windows. Possibly some form of apparatus to shoot something like that spray foam insulation. Can you imagine the wipers trying to get that off the windshield? Also simply trying to burn the thing would be nice. Then tagging the occupants on exit (has only one opening and one person at a time). I like the idea of a rubber tired loader flipping it. I have thousands of hours seat time in heavy equipment. How about getting the massive tires burning? How about ramming another semi into it. Many possiblities. We just have to get creative.

          • gear oil drains really slow, so maybe impact at the cv joints? nothing like a dropped drive shaft to mess up your day, but would one drive line stop a 4WD or AWD if it just fell out? I’ve replaced a few, but not after blowing them up.

        • All armored vehicles have one weakness…. and its the problem of heat conduction to the men inside.

          When I spoke of flame throwers in previous thread, other posters thought I was being foolish with my own life…
          Well, I wasn’t talking about a conventional flame thrower…

          Think of a molotov napalm machine gun, I call it the dragon’s breath…

          • ….or a well protected D-9 or a pack of them or somesuch thing….roll em over on their backs then soak em down with fuel…light em up…..that or push em into a river or lake or a deep ditch that can then be covered back in….theres more than one way to skin a cat so to speak and Im sure theres alot more we can come up with…we the people have alot of thinkers on our team all they got is….well you know…

      70. I cannot help, but think that Obama has been planning and sitting up some sort of a COUP DE TA to enthrone him into power for life. Somewhere out in the wings there must be tens of thousands foreign troops and his civilian army just waiting to come on in. (THEY ARE IN FOR A BIG SURPRIZE)

        Just watch your backs my fellow PATROITS, it is coming and coming quickly, very quickly.

        Another peel of the chime has struck on the clock at the MID-NIGHT HOUR not many left, I’m afraid.


        PS: In my neck of fly over country, some food supplies are getting short and prices are climbing higher.

        • “Somewhere out in the wings there must be tens of thousands foreign troops and his civilian army just waiting to come on in”

          That reminds me of a joke about two bear hunters, trying to figure out how the two of them were going to bag a grizzly. One hunter says “Wait here in the cabin and I’ll be right back”. About 15 minutes later, one hunter comes running through the brush screaming “open the door, open damn the door!”

          Hunter two quickly opens the door and hunter one runs through the door, with a huge grizzly right on his ass.

          Hunter one pauses at the back door and says “Well, there he is, I caught him, YOU kill him!” slamming the back door behind him…

          That about sums up my strategy for dealing with thousands of foreign troops and his civilian army just waiting to come on in… like a roach motel—they check in, but they don’t check out.

      71. My teenage son and I (he’s in 9th grade) were discussing a lot of the topics that have come up in this thread yesterday afternoon. We were discussing the possibility of Civil War (both of us see it coming. He has hopes that it can still be averted…I have none); the Constitution (he still thinks it is a protection, I have no such illusions); and politicians (we both agree they are the scum of the earth).

        I have just finished reading a series of books by Angela White…the “Life After War” series. When things get bad…they will get really bad really fast. Anyone unprepared is going to be obliterated. I don’t mean just being prepared by having enough food and TP or whatever, I mean being prepared mentally. There is going to be a small window of opportunity after an event to bring your family through safely, after that things get very dicey. Keep your eyes and ears open, stay alert, and don’t be caught unaware.

        • @ Prepped in CT,

          “When things get bad…they will get really bad really fast. Anyone unprepared is going to be obliterated.”

          Talking things over with our ‘youngers’ is a neccessity with which I agree wholeheatedly…they will inherit this mess, they OUGHT to have a notion of what’s coming. You quote above is a strong possibility. Several well-known persons, familiar with the inner workings of the financial system have commented (in the last several months) as to the horrible implications of that when admixed with the JIT logistics which the World now depends critically upon. the best treatment of this I’ve yet seen is that by David Korowicz, titled ‘Tradeoff.pdf’ which can be googled up at your convenience anytime. Be advised; the READ is long…over 77 pages, but it gives the deepest – and IMHO – the clearest picture of the nature of any failure which would occur therein. Rather a “frightening” piece altogether…

          Stay Prepped in CT!! Best of Luck…


      72. Sounds to me that Kenya just declared war on the citizens of the U.S.


        I find it ironic that the people we used to enslave are not running the country and look at the state of it.
        And a lezbo too.
        Let it all collapse.

        They will be begging the white guys to take over the mgt. again.

        Enjoy the video….When the currency is crashed…here’s who’s coming to your neighborhood.

        • Hey- N.O., thanks for
          the link 🙂
          i myself am glued 2
          C-SPAN….. just sayin’….

      74. Can’t you morons do better than that stupid photo? Just shows how idiotic you are. You have no grasp of reality. Fuckheads.

      75. I’ve decided to make myself some flash cards, with english on one side, and the russian translation on the other, just in case I meet any Russians in my neighborhood.

        I am an American citizen.
        Я – американский гражданин

        Can I speak with someone who speaks english?
        Могло я говорить с кем – то, кто говорит на английском языке?

        Am I being detained?
        Я задерживаю?

        I want to leave now.
        Я хочу уехать теперь

        I don’t know what you are talking about.
        Я не знаю то, о чем Вы говорите

        No, You may not enter.
        Нет, Вы не можете входить

        Leave my house.
        Оставьте мой дом

        and perhaps…

        That’s gotta hurt.
        Это похожо болит

        Sorry about your luck.
        Жаль о вашей удаче

        You should have stayed in Russia.
        Вы должны были остаться в России.

        • from my cold dead hands, Commie
          от моих холодных мертвых рук, Commie

        • Sixpack?? I’m more worried about Chinese!!

          • okay—

            I am an American citizen.

            Can I speak with someone who speaks english?

            Am I being detained?

            I want to leave now.

            I don’t know what you are talking about.

            No, You may not enter.

            Leave my house.

            and perhaps…

            That’s gotta hurt.

            Sorry about your luck.

            You should have stayed in China.

            I was only thinking Russian, because of the reports of Russians on our highways right now, asking citizens questions.

          • I’m more worried about Feinstein trying to disarm us.


            Can we elect eminem prez?

            • sorry, I don’t speak feinstein, nor do I wish to.

      76. There are more of “them” (non-workers) than there are of us. We’re doomed. We’re nothing but sheeple.

      77. @ Everybody worried about the Cascadia fault. There is a real swarm going on in the Prince Edward Islands region. This is south of Africa and on the African plate boundary with the Antarctica plate. When this region in the past has been hit 8 out of 9 times there has been a large earthquake or several earthquakes. This is directed at new spots, the PACIFIC NORTHWEST FOR ONE.

        On Feb. 26, 2001 this area of Prince Edward Islands got hit and 2 days later the Seattle region was hit with a 6.8. Also on the target list has been the Vancouver Island region, southern Alaska, and the Aluetian Islands. Hawaii had a 6.5 back in June of 1989 after this. Other areas include New Guinea, Indonesia, south of Israel and Japan. The real concern though is that this seems to be aiming at the Pacific Northwest.

        I would say that there is a likelihood, 50-60% that the Pacific coastline is going to have an earthquake of 6.5 by March 21. The other areas included with the past earthquake like in the South Sandwich Islands that by that March 21st. day that there will be a 6.5+ at 80-85% sure. This figure will probably go up as more earthquakes present themselves.

        • @BI: thanks for the update.

        • Evening BI,

          I was afraid that would be your ‘read’ on those. I went back through some of the postings fom the last episode (a few months back). I also noted that – as yet – there has been little activity along the segment of the predominant faultline extending from north of QC/Haida Gwaii to the region off the coast from Yakutat. In the early 1900’s there were some strong disturbances through that region…and very little else for a very long time since then…any thoughts thereon would be appreciated Friend, when and if, you have the time. 🙂

          While I’m here a solar note; NOAA 11678 is on appraoch to return in approx. 72 hours along the North-Eastern limb. SolarHam is reporting some very large prominences as being visible above this region in the STEREO B imaging. It also appears that this region was responsible for an impressive fulll halo discharge yesterday (early AM) Otherwise, most all else is quiet …too much so in fact.

          Anywho, till later…


        • thanks for the info BI

      78. They strike us, we strike them. Everything becomes fair game after the first strike. He who shoots first loses; we will shoot last!

      79. STAND WITH RAND!

      80. Darkie Senator Audrey Gibson wants ammo buyers in Florida to take anger management classes. This whore belongs chained to a post making dinner and washing clothes.

      81. Go Rand paul!

        Eight hours and counting…plus he isn’t just talking random crap, he is really making a lot of points regarding the drones.

      82. look, up in the sky!….on second thought, nevermind…it’s just a drone comming to kill us all…dark days, indeed

        • Commie Stalinists don’t kill using drones only. They love swat twats and fire gizmos.

      83. “Look, what we are dealing with in America is the same thing Europe has put up with for centuries: Royalty versus peasants. The difference is, in Europe the royalty is through birth, in America the royalty is elected!”

        — From a European who became a naturalized U.S. citizen and Rifleman.

        “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst; the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”

        ― Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

        NOMI KTLTW


        If you want to send a message of support for his filibuster efforts against illegal, un-American drones.
        Rand Paul, 2016, if we are still standing–and I have my doubts.

      85. NUTS!!!!!!!!!!! LETS GET I ON!!!!! WE NEED A “RESET”!!!!!

      86. Gee Mr Rand seems a lot like the “Energizer Bunny”, (Last part),

        Some daily stuff here,

        H Kunstler has a piece being showcased over the Hedge tonight that does a remarkable job of
        describing the current state of affairs and the ramifications thereof,

        While at the same time a piece is running that basically has “Our Man Holder” comingg out and
        saying DIRECTLY that the ‘too-big-to-fail are’ – in fact – simply, ‘too-big-to-prosecute’

        Well, that about wraps it up for the night Y’all….’easy come, easy go’…


        PS:Regardless of what you might think of him, Rand Paul is the guy in the ‘Batter’s box’ tonight,

        Quoting dirtectly from Business Insider;

        In the 13th hour, Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson joined in the filibuster, becoming the 13th Senator to
        join the filibuster. Then newly appointed Sen. Tim Scott came to the floor in support. After Scott,
        it was Arizona Sen. Jeff Flake.

        “You don’t even have to like Rand Paul to ‘Stand with Rand,'” Scott said.

      87. How do you determine that Threat , and How many people are Involved in determining what a Threat is and are they Bias due to a Political Position , all this Needs Clarity .Senator Rand Paul is right we need clarification on who is
        considered a Threat for the use of Drones , because Hilary Clinton said that The Bush Cheney era will be OVER , so this today seems to be viewed as a Threat against
        the USA according to Homeland Security .

        Homeland Security says threats can be
        considered right wingers , lone wolves , or anyone that speaks against
        government like Hilary Clinton did has
        Declared this a Eminent threat . I want People like Hilary Clinton to speak
        their Mind and Not become a Target .

        But in these Links that’s not the case under the new
        regulation . .

        This can be viewed by
        a few Political Appointed officials under a Presidents Administration as a
        threat instead of under the 4th and 5th Amendments of the
        US Constitution this terminology needs
        to be all part of this debate now before we see Civil Liberties fall through
        the cracks of a Ideology that seems to be usurping the rights of US Citizens .

      88. As much as I love these sites, I have to say that I am confused. Yes, I already know how bad our country has gotten, but nobody talks about how we need to protect our rights. Do we need to write letters? Boycott certain services? Is there any way that we can defend our rights without being labeled as radicals? Please help.

        • You must not have read the true story of McLame’s heroism.
          Search it out.

          • not sure I want to know JayJay

            not sure I want to know….

        • Whatever McCain may have been (that was good) is all in the past now…being a hero once doesnt make you one for life or right for life either….I never cared much for the guy since ‘nam but what I judge him on now is what he does now…and that isnt good on his part…he is against the principle of liberty for everyone except he and his…thats not what he swore….far as im concerned he sold us out…

      89. Time to open up a can of whoop ass.

      90. The government will utilize any and all methods to kill its enemies wheather it has the “right” to do so or not.

      91. History repeats itself; Great conquerors, leaving vast empires, which ultimately were destroyed for reasons of failing governments and populations that believed them.
        Whether it was Alexander the Great, or The Roman Empire, Djengis Khan, The Ming Dynasty, they all fell to the greed of people and their trust in their peers, who went out of their way to abuse their entrusted powers, becoming the enemy within.
        Present legislators are calling the US population a thread and they are right: A thread to their position which they abused at the expense of its population, so in the eyes of government, to call opposing entities terrorists and taking measures to destroy them, has nothing to do with the safety of the country, but more so with protecting the people in power.
        Work this one out…. You might have a debt to the banks, the banks are virtually owned by the government, who bailed them out, with your money by the way, so now you owe the banks and your great grandchildren will still be paying the deficit government is leaving you with. Isn’t that enslaving the population. The drones and all other machineries or tactics the government is threatening you with, is only a way to let you know that they are letting you know that they realize that if they are staging an outright war against the US People, they will lose big time, for the following reasons:
        There are too much guns amongst the people
        There is too much intelligence there too
        The US military will NOT shoot at their own families
        They will make themselves an outcast in the world of politics.
        When government will be defeated and they will, they will have to answer to the people.
        My question though is how did the US people allow a Non-US Citizen to talk on their behalf and lead them into total chaos, for until today, I have not seen a birth certificate that state that this “Commander in Chief” is who he says he is and even if ultimate proof to his birth being one on American soil, take away his color, give him a mustache and we have an American copy of Hitler.
        Hitler and his cronies did manage to elude their nation to rage war on the pretext that they were being victimized and they staged an incident blaming an “outsider” to be the culprit, which this Government has done as well.
        The USA today, in many ways resembles pre-war Nazi Germany, where its leaders instilled fear to its population, issuing decrees that effectively enslaved their population and started a psychological indoctrination in order to NOT being defeated from within.
        And now Adolf Obama, has got his second term, he is not interested in helping the people, he and his Clan of Wall street backed SS giving their SA (sorry, TSA)even more powers, is aiming for a third term.
        America used to be ‘The Land of the Braves and home to the Free’, but it is not anymore, as it has become “The land of the Power Greedy and home to the Enslaved’!.
        AMERICA wake up !

        Who is that knocking on my door ?

      92. Do the the American people know what the Communists in Cambodia did to each other?

      93. Or should we say: what the Communist did to their own families and people! Was their not a type of: demographic cleansing there in Communist Cambodia where families even turned against their own due to indoctrination and force.

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