Undeniable Evidence: “The College Education System Is On The Fast Track To Destruction… An Obvious Sign Of Economic Crisis Waiting To Happen”

by | Feb 14, 2017 | Headline News | 90 comments

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    Whether you have kids headed to college, in college, just graduated, or if you have no college-bound grads at all, the following micro-documentary from Crush The Street explains that the coming college meltdown will have dire consequences for the entire economy.

    Today in America the overburdening debt and shrinking jobs market is exposing the ugly consequences of the reality that mindless attendance to higher education has drastic consequences for millions of students.

    College attendance has peaked and now we are witnessing what we will call The College Meltdown… From grants and loans for various degrees across the board with little repayment viability, to the constant propaganda by high schools and the media that everyone should and needs to attend a college or university to be successful in life, the truth is being revealed…  Our youth lives in an age of increasingly crushing student loan debt with five consecutive years of declining enrollment numbers.

    The economic situation is so dire… data was just released that showed at least half the students defaulted… did not pay off one penny of their student loan debt within seven whole years at more than 1000 colleges and trade schools… this is higher than ever recorded… and an obvious sign of economic crisis waiting to happen.

    A Must Watch: The College Meltdown (via Crush The Street):

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      1. My degree in underwater basketweaving will pay off any day now.

        • My degree in Women’s Studies (aka: Feminist/Radical Left/Liberal/Democratic/anti-Patriotic)degree really took me places. Not.


          • Joey,you are mistaken as I go back to school for my post modern/afro centric/lesbian under water basket weaving degree you will soon be working for me!Fear not,will have a education benefit to round out your solid but basic studies!

            • Real average weekly earnings drop as inflation increases.

              Consumer Prices Surge At Fastest Pace In 5 Years As Real Wages Tumble

              “Stagflationary disaster looms. As prognosticators ohh and aah over the soaring consumer price index (up 2.5% YoY – the most since March 2012), driven by a 14.2% YoY spike in gasoline prices,

              it appears they missed the fact that real average weekly earnings plunged by 0.6% YoY – the biggest wage collapse since November 2011.”

              “And of course rents and shelter costs, which are now rising at a pace not seen since the last bubble.”

              ht tp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-15/consumer-prices-surge-fastest-pace-5-years-real-wages-tumble

              • I agree 1000% on the comments regarding fluf degrees.

                That said I come from a long line of engineers. Even daughters of my family tree have become awesome engineers. Grandpa was a Rocket engineer who had over 1200 patents to his name. A family record. We are wired for it.

                My children because of solid technical degrees are making frightening amounts of money, I said we are wired for it. Did I forget to mention, I married the smartest woman I ever met. Genetics do matter.

                China for 30 years had a one child policy, imagine if in their effort to control population they had set up a smart system? You could have unlimited children if you and your wife had a combined IQ over 300. A combined IQ of over 250 and you could have 3 kids. A combined IQ of 225 and you could have 2 kids. Combined IQ of 200 and you can have one kid. If your IQ is under 90 you get snipped…… No kids! 30 years later, what would China have looked like?

                The US rejects eugenics. Communist countries however have greater leeway. China already, because of their massive population already produces more geniuses than the US has children!

                Just food for thought?

        • I took nine years to complete my degree in 18th C. Belgian Lesbian Musicology. Had some great parties, was able to fund my socialist professor’s retirement at age 49, not to mention a hundred sabbaticals she took, and had five abortions (so now I’m sterile and got breast cancer).

          Whee!!! Gotta luv socialist edjucshun!

        • I have oriented people, with ordinary kinds of college degrees, to menial labor.

          At least, the basket makers work for themselves, produce something of material value, and it is expensive, in an economy of uncoordinated consumers.

      2. The manifesto from the New World Order: Education

        EDUCATION –Education has always been used in order to instill a basic knowledge in order to be productive while instilling a respect for authority – keep using this strategy whilst increasing the authority program using fear and coercion. Making education mandatory over the years and for profit has been genius on many levels; one such example would be that people which are, in essence, ignorant will feel themselves elevated by stature and assumed intelligence which shall easily deflect any thinking which is outside the sphere of current and accepted ‘knowledge’.

        • the education system and the banksters are all in the same group, and so at the same time they were or are brainwashing our kids and sending them to debtors prison they were making millions off the loans that the kids will never be able to pay back, YES there is more to this but that covers the basics!! like i said before, our ONLY way out of this mess is to remove the multi-headed snakes HEADS!!

          • Apache54:

            I agree. The seven headed snake is the symbol on the logo of The Trilateral Commission.

            I find the choice, which is described in Revelations as belonging to antiChrist, an explicit admission that the group is working in opposition to all things of, for or like Christ.

            Even agnostics should find this disturbing. Why? Because whether you believe in God or not, any group that establishes itself using a Satanic symbol is telling the public, their objectives are evil. That should set off alarm bells. If it doesn’t, maybe your education sanitized your neurotransmitter to the point of annihilation.


            • AGREED!!!

            • The “logo” of the Trilateral Commission is a grouping of 3 arrows, however if you look closely at the logo, it definitely looks like the numbers 6,6,6 grouped in a circle.

              • Yes.

          • Control of education has always been part of the plan to control a nation.

            When an opponent declares, “I will not come over to your side,” I calmly say, “Your child belongs to us already… What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.”
            – Adolf Hitler

            “He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.”
            – Adolf Hitler

            “The best way to take control over a people and control them utterly is to take a little of their freedom at a time, to erode rights by a thousand tiny and almost imperceptible reductions. In this way, the people will not see those rights and freedoms being removed until past the point at which these changes cannot be reversed.”
            – Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf

            “Those who don’t know history are destined to repeat it.”
            – Edmund Burke

            The Communist Takeover Of America – 45 Declared Goals (1963)

            17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers’ associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

            18. Gain control of all student newspapers.

            19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

            20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

            21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

            *The entire list is at the link below.
            ht tp://rense.com/general32/americ.htm

            • … or KYM, as Charleton Heston said, Charleton Heston on corrupting media/Why libs hate the internet

              “Modern media fills the cultural airwaves with a mist of anesthesia, so that principles and values are slowly desensitized to the coming onslaught. The new culture arrives on the heels of this propaganda. It simply moves in and takes over, slipping like a fine new glove over a numbed hand. The outcome of the war is just as devastating, but without bombs bursting, twisted bodies to bury, or rubble to rebuild. A new class, a different culture, simply take over.”

              Sex in the City or Will and Grace, anyone??

            • Remember the name Edward Schempp, the Jew largely responsible for the Christian Bible being removed from public schools. Schempp and his pack of Satanic serpents would surely be ecstatic about what’s replaced the Good Book.

              THE NEW 10 COMMANDMENTS:

              1. Satanic temple rolling out after school devil worship programs for children across America
              2. Using ‘misgendered’ pronouns is ‘discrimination,’ could get you fined: Ontario Human Rights Commission
              3. ‘Lube, lube, lube!’: Chicago schools to teach 5th graders how to increase sexual pleasure
              4. Massachusetts schools ask 12-year-olds if they’ve had anal or oral sex
              5. Minnesota mom files lawsuit over parental rights: Her minor son has been receiving transgender “services” and given narcotic drugs without her consent
              6. What goes on at a school ‘gay straight alliance’ club event? Here’s the horrific truth. (WND)
              7. Sex Ed Program in Hawaii Public Schools Teaches 11-Year-Olds That the Anus Is a Genital and Gay Sex, Promiscuity Are Normal
              8. Furious parents slam ‘damaging’ BBC sex change show aimed at 6-year-olds
              9. “The Little Black Book – Queer in the 21st Century” handed out to school kids – Mass Resistance
              10. Pedophile helps create sex-ed curriculum in Ontario schools (Stop Corrupting Children – Canadian Values)

            • Yes it is definitely another control mechanism. The mass financing of college education has created another massive debt bubble in the last 8 years. Add that in with the automobile financing bubble and it is a serious problem going forward. Then add that onto the nat debt and unfunded liabilities and something is going to break. I have no idea when, could be next week or next year ? But I do know Trump will get blamed because it will be on his watch, even though he had zero to do with any of it. This is the next major weapon of the left anti Trump maniacs to pull out and use after they get trying to create scandals that do not exist.

              I had a reason to be in touch with an administrator and professor at UO Eugene a few years ago. He openly admitted to me that there have been studies done in the last 5 years that clearly show a 1966 high school diploma had more educational credibility than a BA today at UO. That is pathetic. And imagine the cost of such a downgrade ?

        • It’s not ‘public education’, a misnomer which is started as young as possible with preschool now, which should be correctly called ‘government education’, in which they want the students to start and stay in the system as long as possible. And now the other edge of the sword is the debt burden on top of the indoctrination. Yeah, I could understand how the lies told could make someone want to go and bust out the windows of the people that told all the lies firstly and then raped me later too. But it’s not the young adults who are getting scammed by the system that are breaking the windows. It’s the politically indoctrinated who think that the system still works or cares about them. They just need to make the system that just screwed them better at it. That’s why they are called useful idiots right.
          Hey, I’m not that young, and I know that I was indoctrinated all my life too. It takes an epiphany to snap out of it. Mine was about 8 years ago. It’s something that has to be done on your own. No one can make anyone wake up. Ask me how I know. And it’s why people keep posting here when it most likely won’t do a thing to change anything. It’s only because people need to talk to someone that understands too.
          I just read recently that depression doesn’t manifest from not being around people, it comes from being around people that don’t want to talk about ‘what you want to talk about’. Could be.

      3. Kind of funny to sit back and watch these millenialls destroy their future. The wife and I worked hard, we’ve retired and now we live in the mountains and kaugh at their stupidity. We didn’t have kids so I could careless if this generation ever owns a house, gets a job or has to leech of their pathetic parents for the rest of their miserable lives. Their’s will be a future of pain, suffering and bondage and they brought it on themselves.

        • Sir, Long distance Hiker… Your remarks inherently disqualify you from participation in the future, let alone humanity. Whereas I agree that the kids spoken of in the article are indeed stupid, futureless in terms of having the wherewithall and knowledge to deal with what’s to come; worse, in possession of worthless educations and insane debt… what you must understand is one simple fact – that the future does not belong to those of us who live now, in the present. Nor does it belong to those whose genetic heritage does not continue on to the future. I’m sorry you did not have children; thus, grandchildren and so on. I’m glad you and your wife were moderately successful, have been able to retire (though I question any comments about ‘leech’ing if you now receive the socialist payment via a monthly check from a bankrupt system) and have a nice home in the mountains. But Sir, you can’t take it with you. All your ‘things’ are just that – items that will be stripped from you as soon as your breath stops. By family, the government, whoever happens to have the will and power to do so. To laud or ‘laugh’ (kaugh?… cough?) at pain, suffering, bondage and wish for some retaliatory mechanism in their futures to take place – regardeless of their errors, these now misguided people must go on and try to have a life, a seeking of joy for their coming struggle is not correct. You know this, or I hope you do. Again – just because you have no stake in the future via offspring of your own does not in any way make you superior or worthy of praise. And before you ask – I did have children, 4 – and have another 7 grandchildren who will inherit this earth.

          • Investments, IRAs, 401k’s are not leeching and I was never under the impression I would take anything with me. I understand your worry for your grandchildren’s future but due to circumstances beyond our control we do not share your burden nor do I feel a need to care. Every generation makes mistakes but these ungrateful, spoiled brats have taken it to a new level and they obviously do not care for our future (people without children do have a future) so why worry about their’s. BTW, I do not need nor want your praise and the future will show which generation was superior or inferior.

            • Dearest Hiker,

              I blame many of these problems on YOUR generation! You don’t give a rats ass about others and are obviously quite selfish. Did not the generation of the ’50’s and’60s – now retired – do the most to mold our current educational system and this generation?

              I meet many young people through my work – some of them are horribly spoiled, nasty, selfish people (as are their immature parents – raised by the now retired – “your” – generation). Others are intelligent, kind, hardworking, polite, generous, courteous and wonderful. The parents make the biggest difference.

              You remind me of a brother and sister in law I have – younger than we are with no kids. Our kids are grown now and this couple had no interest in them until they needed some cheap muscle and then ours are suddenly important. They have lots of stuff and toys and are some of the most unhappy people I know. They sleep with a pack of yappy little house dogs that crap all over their 500,000 home. Their “kids”.

              I am glad you are happy. I am glad you think you have a future. My 88 year old father, now caring for his wife in hospice, is facing this part of his life with loving children and grandchildren nearby. I agree the future is not looking good, but this generation was cheated out of a good life by yours. And praise is not what you will get from me – rather it is pity.

              Godspeed and may you go together so neither of you have to say good bye to a spouse of 70 years + with only “paid for” support.

              • A Local
                Your jealous anger towards your brother and sister in law should not be directed at me. I am 54 years old and not part of the 50’s/60’s generation as you so presumptuously assumed and am very happy and satified with my life. I to have loving caring parents that taught me to work hard, I served our Country for 6 years in the US Navy, then worked hard in a career that provide the opportunity for an early retirement and now I volunteer to help others as a member of a SAR team and trail crew.

                You were quick to judge me yet you know nothing about me, keep you pity for yourself as you seem more in need of it than me.

                • Oh believe me I do NOt want their situation or lifestyle. I am not jealous. I think it is sad. Perhaps you might consider working with some of those millennials’ you so despise. You lump them together and laugh at them. I can tell you there are some very fine young people out there. Unlike you there are many will work to improve things, rather than avoid them and laugh. I salute your service-my family included enlisted and several officers. However the jealousy you speak of does not exist and I certainly have no need of your pity.

                • And I believe you missed my point-you may take care of your folks when they start to fail, but who will be there to care of you?

                  • Some of the criticism towards boomers is justifiable. But not all is correct. No question some of the boomers were greedy and created some serious fucked up kids who later became fucked up parents. But many were also quite realistic and good workers who were not greedy and foolish or raised numbskulls. The other thing I never understand is people who are consumed in leaving their kids too much in assets. I have seen this often. Many times the kids are more or less waiting for the parents to die off so they can get that money and blow it. Their kids are not at all responsible for their own finances and a horrid dynamic was created for all involved. A very common theme these days. There is a far better way and this does not teach your kids to stand on their own two feet.

                    The I/Me generation did make a lot of social mistakes but they get blamed for more than they are actually responsible for. The generations directly after them should carry their own weight or blame and they skate. We could find fault in every generation one way or another. Our kids are getting weaker an weaker every generation and that is a disaster waiting to happen. In fact we are seeing that disaster unfold in many ways today.

        • Wow.

        • Long Distance Hiker, welcome and I wholeheartedly agree.

          • Thank you very much. I’ve been here (SHTF) a long time just never posted any comments.

          • Brave

            We have known each other quite a while now. On this one I have to disagree with you and Long Distance Hiker. I understand the feelings about all these idiots that think they are owed something. I understand they think they are the smartest thing on the planet. I understand why people have anger towards there ridiculous libtard beliefs. I myself get furious watching the masked idiots burn everything in site. I know that is what is destroying the country.

            The disagreement is this. I care about this country and the future of it. Not only for my children but for everyone. If we don’t care about the future of others which is also the future of the country then whats the point. If we do not care about others no matter there race, religion, sex, or age then the country is lost. We need all who love freedom to ban together. If you convert one of the libtards to the freedom side then you have brightened the future and lessened the pain that is coming.
            How can we ever win the fight that is coming when we cannot even get along on this site? I unfortunately have come to the opinion that we may lose. Why? All of us are on the side of freedom. It is just that we end up disagreeing about religion, race, sex, nationality, ect. We must care about the future for all and unite for freedom. The founders had vicious disagreements but when it came to hard times most if not all came together for the preservation of the country and our future.

            • The cogs of inevitability are, and have been, in motion. We all have such short little lives and trying to get as much done within our sphere of existence is an age old challenge. With the modern day family void of a two parent infrastructure for the most part, our progeny are sacrificed at the alter of indoctrination. When you look at our generation, I’m 57, we knew it all just like every generation before us and like herded cattle we were unaware of the objectives set in place by our government back then. Nixon’s administration took us off the gold standard and put in motion the ponzi scheme we all now enjoy. Humans, like all lifeforms in general, are seekers of comfort and will try to secure that environment with whatever means necessary so we cannot blame our offspring for something created by US! They, like us, will be enlightened by the passing of time and will concede, just as we did, that we know nothing.

            • Mike,
              I share your concern for the future of America but unfortunately this generation is lost and has been brainwashed at the communist reducation camps hiding in plain sight as colleges and universities. They have grown up having everything given to them without work and they are used to getting their way with no consideration for others. They are educated idiots whos parents have fawned over them since they were born and the chance of them changing is nil. I took an oath 35 years ago to protect this Country from all enemies both foreign AND domestic. These so-called protesters and socialist agitators are domestic enemies to both the Constitution, our citizens and the Amrican way of life and will be defeated using any means necessary. Just like a rabid dog, they are infected and no amount of reasoning, love, hugs or caring will cure their disease.

            • We need to remain prepared. The economic conditions point to difficult times ahead.

              Mortgage Delinquencies Rise Most In 7 Years As Rates Spike

              “Worryingly rates remain high, inflation is surging, Yellen is set for more hikes, and real wages are dropping.”

              ht tp://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-15/mortgage-delinquencies-rise-most-7-years-rates-spike

          • Deplorable. Yeah, you would agree? Are you still tearing the wings off of flies waiting for a guy like Long Distance Hiker to show up at your BOL? After all that other stuff that you post how can you find a way to agree with this guy? Seriously? Oh that’s right, you agree with the ‘Brown Shirts Guy’ who finds a way to go to the obscure scrolls under his bed that he gets his disinformation from too. This guy LDH is the libtard DINK (double income, no kids) you have been railing against who thinks he can dictate his view of the world to you. You should read ‘Heartless”s response instead. Or maybe you did too late and understand your mistake. Your on the lost he doesn’t care about either.

            • Yeah right
              Dictating my views? I only stated an opinion about a subject to an open forum. You are the one dictating your views and condemning another individual that doesn’t share them.

              Libtard? If being an NRA Life Member, Pro-Christian, Pro-Gun, Anti Illegal Alien, Anti-Big Government, Pro-Self Reliantce, Pro American is considered a Libtard then you may want to look up the definition as you are clearly mistaken.

              DINK..well that’s the only thing you got right in your rant.

              • You forgot professional skater. No, you did good, so why demonize the people you did in your post. Oh, that’s right, it was just an opinion. Yeah, keep talking, you da man.

      4. Credentialed and Certified is an expensive racket that one must pay to play.

        • “Pay to Play”

          Only for those low-class liberals that get their college tuition paid for via grants and subsidies all on the taxpayer dole, it’s more accurate to say “We Pay, They Play“. And at the end the freeloaders never do contribute anything back into the bucket.

          • BlackMoe, what they don’t advertise is that those Pell grants are for women and minorities only. White males have to settle for student loans unless they’re from a wealthy family. let these colleges and universities fail. they deserve it.

            • When I wasted 5 years getting a 4-year-worthless-degree, college was only $500 a semester plus $100 a month for dorm fees. THAT money would have been better spent on trade school. Hindsight is 20/20.

      5. Thank goodness my ancestors chose to have children. In spite of much more terrible things facing them. No children, no future. You’re own people will go extinct.

      6. This is going to blow up in our face. This is a much worse bubble than the Real estate. At least there was some collateral there. Loans based on “NOTHING” is that smart or what. 20 trillion in debt, add the unfunded liabilities and every new baby coming into this world comes with a 1 million dollar debt. Mt Saint Helens move over.

      7. ***Trump has lost his mind or he is not in control of the government!***

        Trump expects Russia to ‘return Crimea’ – White House

        US President Donald Trump has been tough on Russia and expects Moscow to “return” the Crimea peninsula to Ukraine, the White House spokesman told reporters.

        Addressing the resignation of National Security Adviser Michael Flynn – hounded by the media over his contacts with Russian diplomats prior to Trump’s inauguration – Spicer pointed out that Russia “seized” Crimea under the Obama administration and that the Trump-appointed ambassador to the UN Nikki Haley has “strongly denounced the Russian occupation.”

        “President Trump has made it very clear that he expects the Russian government to de-escalate violence in the Ukraine and return Crimea,” Spicer said at the daily news briefing on Tuesday. “At the same time, he fully expects to – and wants to – get along with Russia.”

        “Business as usual per Washington D.C. Policies: causing trouble!”

        FULL STORY: https://www.rt.com/usa/377346-spicer-russia-return-crimea/

      8. I watched the beginning of lowering academic standards, school segregation, and all the other US Govt. involvement that Jack and Bobby Kennedy started in the early sixties. I was a PFC in the 101st Airborne Division Military Police, deployed to Oxford, Mississippi. At the time, Mr. Meredith entered “Ole Miss”.
        I went to a one room country schoolhouse in Eaton County Michigan that was heated with a Coal burning pot-belly stove and no inside plumbing. Yes, we used “Outhouses” that were freezing in the winter and smelled terrible in the summer, but we got an education. In fact, I would put any of our students from the Eighth Grade up against most High School Graduates today. We studied Math, (add, subtract, multiply and divide whole numbers/decibels/fractions/memorized the multiplication tables/geometry, English and English Lit, World and US Geography, American and World History, Civics, and a host of other topics picked by our teacher. K thru 8th Grade was all in the same room. The Teacher would call each grade to a long bench in the front of the room and cover specific lessons/topics for the day. If one cared to listen, all of us got exposed to everyone else’s lessons. It was fun to listen to what the “Big Kids” were learning, and it peaked everyone’s curiosity level.
        Remember, this was between 1946 and 1955. There were no electronic aides of any kind, not even TV. One actually had to learn how to write in legible cursive with real Ink. (That’s a real Bitch when one is left-handed).

        I could not afford to go to College, so I joined the Army in 1961 and really didn’t keep up with what was happening to America’s education system. However, the last three years, (1979-80-81) I was an Army Recruiter in Flint, Michigan and was required to recruit in several of the High Schools in that area. To say the least, I got a very rude awaking. Schools then, and even more so today, lack discipline. Teachers get little or no respect; parents seldom attend any conferences or meetings with teachers, and most are looking for a way to sue the school district. From school administrators to the lowest paid school employee, most are paranoid and politically correct to the point of being completely ludicrous. I fear that without some serious intervention, American Students are just going to get dumber and dumber until we do not have enough educated people to keep America alive.
        Personally, I believe schools should be friendly and promote a positive learning environment for those students that want to learn. The Curriculum must be academically challenging to include math up to Quantum Physics for those students that possess the aptitude. Also, detailed World/US Geography, Government and History. Students should go to school year around six hours a day, four days a week. If they truly cannot, or will not, learn the advanced academics, then they should be taught a useful trade or skill to Journeyman Apprentice level that can be used to make that person self-sustainable.
        I think discipline should be firm but absolutely fair with clear and concise rules that if broken would result in several levels of reprisal from a letter of reprimand to mandatory residence in a locked down facility to attend classes. Those classes would require daily oral, written, or product results from the students on various topics, including the use of proper English, social skills, and verbal communication.
        Some of these students will rebel to the point of violence. Those students need to be removed from the system and placed in a facility much like a military boot camp for six months and then given the opportunity to return to school. If their attitude and behavior is still disruptive or hostile, it’s back to boot camp for one year, or until cadre recommends release. In the 18 months of boot camp, those aggressive students will have learned a skill of some sort to earn their keep. Some will not be able to remain as useful members of society and will revert to criminal acts. When caught, they will become convicts that, if not in prison, would be a detriment to our way of life. And, we’ll have to provide funds for their incarceration just as we do now. However, with a strong and demanding education system in place with realistic and effective programs that teach our kids, there will be a lot less convicts to pay for.

        • SaltyDog, welcome and I have to agree. One of the best posts I’ve ever seen from anyone.

        • Salty Dog

          I have to compliment you on that post. It is excellent. It caused me to think of many things. One I am embarrassed to say I have never thought of before.

          I was adopted and raised by my grandparents. My grandfather had a 7th grade education but in my opinion was much smarter than most college grads today. Most in his generation had to learn about so many things in order to save money and eat. He also had a one room school house. He told me a story once about how the teacher seemed to always asked him to go cut some wood for the stove. He said he got tired of it. He went out and cut the biggest tree he could drag. He drug it in the door of the school house butt first. He said they had to saw the limbs off before getting it back out. Needless to say the teacher did not ask him to cut wood for a long time.

          The first and second grade for me was at a time they were still allowed to paddle. It did not matter to me. I was more afraid of my parents if I misbehaved than that paddle. That is what is wrong with schools today. The parents were on the side of the teacher.

          Back to my dad. He moved to Norfolk before WW2. Most of his 10 brothers and sisters followed him. He got a job helping to build piers. He would stay late learning how to read prints. From there he started his own construction business and built it up to the point they were building schools. I guess I did not know how good life was while I was growing up. Shortly after I turned 18 my dad had bad health issues. Everything he built was lost due to others mismanagement of funds. I won’t get into that now. He was smarter in every area than these idiots who graduate today because he studied reading, writing, history, and math in school. Instead of watered down everyone has to pass social studies.

          The thing you made me realize that I am embarrassed to say is another factor in the college and rigged liberal education system. It is another way to force most to pay. Has anyone seen those positions in work that only college educated people can get. There are exceptions but it is very hard to get those positions without a degree. I ask why? There are so many smart, hard working, wise, people who deserve the job more than the 25 year olds that get them. These people would do a wonderful job and better than the college grads in most cases.
          Why don’t company’s understand this?

          I should have thought of this long ago.

        • My daddy who is on the other side now, also was schooled in a one room school house up to the 8th grade. He was one of the most intelligent people I knew/know. He never said much but he was always thinking. Even Steve Jobs said that the school his children attend do not use computers or ipads. They write everything with pencil and paper. And he does not allow them to use a computer/ipad at home. We both know why! And then he was one of many who fought in WW2 with an 8th grade education, and they of course were victorious. Who needs college?

        • Salty Dog, you seem to mean well, but your cure seems much too totalitarian for me.
          My fourth grade was spent in a one-room tin-roofed outbuilding with a pot-bellied coal fired heater, and this was the most fun and best learning experience for me, but a lot of this was because we had a good teacher.
          Edmund Burke said, “A man is better off with no education than to be educated by his rulers.” If one is attending a public (government) school, then he is being educated by his rulers.
          All schools should be private and in competition for attendees. Even small towns should have several small private learning centers for parents who might want just a babysitting arrangement, or one for four hours in the morning preparing students for a rewarding blue-collar lifestyle, or one focused on art and music, or one for high achievers in math and/or science. The good schools that delivered what they promised would rise to the top and be successful and the others would fail. Attendance should never be forced, and any government influence should be fought against. Freedom, choice, free markets and competition forever and always.

      9. I would not send a child of mine to college these days, unless it was for being a doctor or a nurse; and then I would be very careful what the curriculum of the school was. If it had these idiotic classes about “white privilege” that would be a college I would avoid. College is so expensive today that my child will learn what I want them to learn if I’m paying for it. An alternative would be a trade school or a school that taught computer coding. Would not get a student loan under any circumstance. There are grants based on different criteria available, and of course your own money. That’s the way three of my four sons went to college. They graduated from college totally debt free. The fourth son did not go to college but to a trade school, no loans. A lot of these young college students are coming out of colleges having learned nothing. Colleges have become rip offs, only caring about the money. Think seriously and plan your higher education.

        • Anonymous,
          i agree, the only way to go to college is IF you can come out either debt free or at least a VERY small debt, our kid spent 7 years and has several degrees, (solid degress in things that matter) and he had a LARGE paying job BEFORE he graduated, they wanted him ASAP, he was only able to take two weeks off ( most of that to move) and BINGO, at work, BIG checks, NO DEBT!! and BEST of all, he is loving his JOB!! so IT ALL depends on THREE things, the KID and the College and the will do it!!

        • I would like to know how anonymous name got on my post? Signed waiting.

      10. No jobs for these college degreed people anyway, at least the majority. The incessant push for the NWO will only strengthen. The word is the death of the TPP is to be followed by a stronger push for TISA, said to be worse than TPP. This will be pushed through to enactment. The police state here in American will be unleashed by the terrorists in DC. Meanwhile the rights you thought you had will be a thing of the past. Police state America will not be worth living in as the wealthy want more. Trump cannot slow the agenda, he will be forced to implement it fully.

      11. I have children. They are adults who are educated because I taught them myself. They have children who are or have been straight A students. It is not difficult to educate your own children. If you can keep them out of these “institutions” of brainwashing and disinformation, so much the better. But if you do send them “to school”, don’t put the responsibility off yourself and on the teachers.

        Don’t immunize children. Most schools demand children receive these dangerous shots at birth. I believe it is to attack the child’s fragile immune system and retard his or her intellect. Do a home birth. Avoid immunization for as long as possible. If you must immunize, research which shots, what exactly is in them, and spread them over several rather than one multiple shot. Avoid thermerisol (Mercury) and lead (causes retardation).

        The flu shot is a scam and even President Trump has come out against it. Never give your kids flu shots. There are all kinds of poisons in these shots.

        Your children who live with you are not a burden. They are a blessing. Being a parent is not always easy, but ultimately it is the most important job you will ever have. My only regret is that I did not have more children. I wanted at least twelve.


      12. Read Consumer Reports Magazine, the August, 2016 edition with the title, “I KIND OF RUINED MY LIFE BY GOING TO COLLEGE.” You’ll be shocked. Right now 42 million Americans owe $1.3 trillion in student debt Much of it may never be paid off to boot.

        Overall, don’t waste your time on higher education unless you’re planning on majoring in most branches of engineering. If you want to be a physical or biological scientist, plan on getting a Ph.D or Sc.D. A bachelors degree will not cut it anymore in those fields. To put it bluntly, most degrees are worthless. Even the highly touted MBA is in the same category. As many as 75,000 people who hold that degree are either underemployed or unemployed!

        Besides that, most of what you’re learning is big time bullshit. The educated man is a thing of the past. Even when I was in college 45 years ago, we use to joke about how philosophy & literature was going to help us on the assembly line! Come to think of it, there aren’t even any assembly lines in the US anymore. They’ve all moved east to Asia or south to Latin America.

      13. Big deal. As far as I’m concerned. You can burn The College Education System down!!!

        It is useless as it stand right now!!!!


        • Sarge, AMEN on that one.

        • Sgt. Dale,
          i agree that for lots of kids the college is and was a SCAM! but there ar a few who it does work for, my kid is one, BUT even though he turned out great, he had everything in his favor, his degree has a large need and they still cannot find enough people, problem is most cannot do what he can, so he was LUCKY and we were lucky. BUT during his college years we had to keep his head strait, lost of libtard profesors in college, and even with us doing that he has some tendencies that i believe he WOULD NEVER have exceot for the negative influence caused by profs and libtard students!!so with that said college is just like are politicians needs MAJOR overhaul!!

          • sorry for the typos, LOL to busy to proof read it!!

      14. For me college was a complete waste of time. I have a B.S. in Business, a “practical degree.” The problem is I have no interest in business. I always heard the same tired old bad advice about getting a “practical degree.” How about studying something you’re passionate about, something that turns you’re crank. And if you succeed in your chosen field, that’s great. If you don’t you go to work and keep the wheels of this country turning. There is no shame in working in construction, utilities, manufacturing, etc.. The shame is that young people have been conditioned to look down on those who labor for a living. If you absolutely must go to college, then go. But don’t turn up your nose at the other options that are out there. And don’t think the stuff you’re learning from your humanities professors is gospel truth because it’s not. Give them the answers they want on their tests and then forget that nonsense as soon as the semester is over. Focus your energy on the actual skills that will allow you to make a living. If you just want an education do some research on “books of truly educated people,” go to the library and read them. That stuff they’re teaching you in college is indoctrination, not education.

      15. They will live in their parents basement and eat Ramon Noodles for the rest of their lives. Get to be over 600 pounds and a hoarder. Then go on television, meet Dr. Now and all will be fine.

      16. Confusion 101
        Delusion 201
        What’s my Sex?
        Rioting for Dummies
        Your Benefits in a SNAP
        Food Service Etiquette
        Introduction to Safe Spaces

        All set for a brave new world.

        • Faux Liberte –

          Excellent Summary List!

          It very much sums up todays Educational Formats.

          Kudos to you! ツ

      17. how did anonymous’ name appear on my post? “I would not send a child of mine to college these days,………..”

      18. I received my STEM degree late in life, age 35. My final degree cost on the order of fifty thousand dollars, paid by GI bill and Employer tuition reimbursement programs. I graduated debt free.
        I’m pretty sure that can be accomplished in today’s world.
        If you want an easy to earn degree, you’ll find it is probably a useless degree. If you can’t figure out a return on your investment to get a degree, you should think about it long and hard.

      19. It wasn’t that long ago when I was chastised and Lamblasted right here at SHTF. I stated that those college degrees where worthless. They are as common as tree leaves. That a High School Diploma in the Sixties was worth more then and would open more doors than a college degree does today. Rebecca was especially upset with my assessment. Its nice to be able to state I told you so.

        • Old Guy, I’ll stand behind you on that statement. I always knew I was right to stay out of college. Rebecca is just another libturd that doesn’t understand.

        • I read somewhere not to long ago that a high school graduate from 1972 had a better education than a 4 year university student has today. The dumbing down of the U.S. A. has been going on for quite a long time…… We also need to remember the words of Mark Twain…… “I never let my education get in the way of my learning”.

      20. I graduated a few decades ago when college actually performed a real service in educating a person to function and succeed in life. I saw a news piece showing some recent college grads from approximately ’05 to ’16 demanding taxpayers pick up the tab for their education, what incredible sense of entitlement. They actually believe and implied it is owed to them because they are more important than than general workers and taxpayers. Some of them were in a minority or not even legal immigrants, they call it reparations, and said we owe it to them. A few even said the power of gov’t should be used to force us to pay for it. What in the HELL did they learn that is real? They weren’t taught, they were propagandized.
        They’re thinking they have graduated with a degree in sociology or art history (many with truly useless degrees) and they should start at $100,000 a year salary as a kindergarten teacher or someone working in a local gov’t office. They believe their psychology degree should earn them the same as someone who earned a STEM degree. And they are shocked to learn many who never went to college earn more than they do or ever will. Of course we must just submit to mandated redistribution, because it’s not fair.
        I work occasionally with some new grads; the ones I was exposed to had almost zero critical thinking skills, much of what they learned is obsolete, exhibit galling self entitlement, have poor work ethic, and behave obnoxiously. A few generations ago they would have been viewed as idiots.
        Of course most will default. The article stated many have not repaid a single cent, this obviously shows there is not even intent to repay. When enough of them can no longer avoid actually repaying the loans and start incurring legal or financial difficulties they will react by demanding “social justice”. How silly and truly ignorant they are. Regardless of what they were taught in their “education”, as a whole, many have been rendered useless and inconsequential, probably for life.

      21. MY wife and I both have bachelors degrees. I continued and got my masters. there was an IMMEDIATE pay increase and a whole realm of new job opportunities that opened up when I received my masters. Keep in mind we are both 50 and got our bachelors in 1988. I got my masters in 1992.

        At that time a college degree still meant something and a masters even more. Today, a high school diploma is little more than a participation certificate. Bachelors degrees are worthless unless you are highly specialized and in a technical field or are planning to comntinue after your undergrad work.

        We have a 14 year old son who has attended one of the best Catholic Schools in the state and will be moving on to an outstnading Catholic High School. He is very bright, but is a lousy test taker. His reprot cards are always good and he averages a 3.8. There is noi doub t he will be accepted to go on to college shnould he choose to. However, computers and video games are his thing. NO….. not playing them, but developing them, writing code, creating them, etc… for the past several years he has been focused on exactly what he wants in the future and that is to open and own his own computer/video game development studio like many others have and eventually tgo grow the business into a real force in the field.

        To do that my wife and I are trying to steer him to a technical college, of which there are many, right here in our area. Not only would he save an ENORMOUS amount of money, but the money he spends will be spent on actual practical knowledge; education and hands on training he can use to work for someone else and hone his skills and then opoen his own shop.

        My wife and I were lucky. We both finished college with student loans but were able to repay them in about 10 years after we graduated. It was easier because we had two incomes and the cost of living in our area is low. I also received several athletic scholarships to help defray my tuition costs. If I had to make the choice today,I would not go to the small, liberal arts college I attended, but would attend a trade school or tech college.

        the cost of a typical 4 year college right now is simply absurd because if do a cost analysis, you find that in many cases the high price of college is simply wasted money. A comparitive analysis of a truck driver with a cdl/A, a heavy equipment operator, a welder and someone with a bachelors degree you find that unless yyour degree is highly specialized, you will be lucky to even FIND A JOB, let alone find one that pays as much as any of the other jobs I mentioned. The average trucker can expect first year earnings of $50k, as will the heavy equipment operator. A welder can expect to make even more, while aqs I said, the college degree holder will be lucky if he can even FIND A JOB! If he does, the pay will not be comparable in our area here in PA.

        the days of education for the sake of knowledge are gone; dead and buried. College hasbecome nothing more than a big business and in many cases a human food processor that sucks kids and their money in, grinds them and their money up and spits out a pile of worthless shit; leaving the student broke, deeply in debt and with few job prospects. IT has created a domino effect through American Society. Kids are living at home after college because they can’t afford to move out on their own due to CRUSHING STUDENT LOAN DEBT! In many cases they delay getting married and delay starting a family if they do at all! In most cases they are not even interested in buying a home. All of these things ripple through the economy.

        Let’s face it; everyone is not cut out for college. That has ALWAYS BEEN TRUE! But easy cheap money with low interest rates gave the “illusion ” that college was for everyone. To make matters even worse is the saddest and most destructive outcome of all and that is the student who takes out tens of thousands of dollars in student loans and never finishes college!!! Those students end up with nothing except huge debts!

      22. I will say it again. Universities are Marxist training camps, that’s all! Expensive ones at that.

        Get a Tech degree, ready to work walking out the door.

        As for universities, I blame parents for ingratiating children into useless indoctrination / national debt! I would never I mean ever permit or support in any way what so ever any of my children to attend University. Never!

        2nd son out of Tech training will make 80,000. this year! No debt either! One more underway and oldest is doing well! No DEBT for any of them!!!

        Universities can shove it! They will cry when no one comes to repair their stuff!

      23. I have posted four times now regarding the anonymous post about sending your kid to school to be a doctor or nurse etc. Don’t understand how that name got on it……since it was my post. Don’t understand why I haven’t seen these post. Signed waiting.

      24. big deal-the “students” will default-and the TAXPAYER will get the bill. This this not a crisis for the student


      26. Too many vested interests for the problem to go away.

        1.)Politicians (definition of politician: one who seeks re election) will legislate for votes to bail out those with student loans (huge voting block that will dwarf even baby boomers), while society as a whole gets quietly robbed by the devaluation of their money (store of value) through inflation, and future generations having to pay through decreased living standards.

        2.) Those professors and teachers, like government workers, who produce nothing, no value added product, and who need their jobs and are “employed” by these diploma mills. Government student loans wind up subsidizing these professors.

        3.) Banks, who are in the business of selling you debt, and honing the repayment scheme to make borrowers indebted for life. In the alternative, banks can always rely on the government for bail outs.

      27. Excellent essay, Mac. Well done!

      28. To make a living one needs educated hands that are in demand. Educated hands are those that have to be where the work is preformed. At the bottom its tradesmen, at the top physicians.

        If you never have to leave the office your office will end up in India.

      29. Tonya……Bingo! Get the government out of education(one size fits all) Kids today don’t want to be mechanics,truck drivers or fix somebody’s plumbing even though the pay is good and you are needed and there is a shortage of people in these trades. that degree isn’t always going to pay the bills and may take years to pay off the college debt. Follow the money…and pick something a robot won’t be able to do either.

      30. I should add (and I have seen this) that GPAs generally have a high degree of correlation to the % of up front cash coming out of the student’s own pocket for tuition. The more the student is paying the higher the GPA.

      31. Dear Sirs:
        Old man I now am. Graduated college 1960. Took degrees in history and art history. Wanted to try to understand who/what/where/why? Still working on those questions. Occasionally, “But how are you going to earn a living?” shouted at me by dear old dad. After college used my imagination and “retired” in 1978 — no more mandatory neck ties and yes, sirs. My question is: why are people going to college, if all they want is a job? If that’s the goal, why not go to a trade school or on-the-job training?

      32. I grew up where the mantra ( in the 1960s) was….” TO get a good job….get a good education”…I believed it and I worked in a factory for 6 years….the last two years I worked full time nites and went to school during the day. I got an Associates degree. I saw my fellow graduates get blue collar jobs with their AAS. None of the jobs seemed too exciting. I decided I needed a Bachelors degree. I checked out two colleges that had the course I was interested in ( Aviation Administration). I went to the college that I thought offered the best education for the money. As a middle class working stiff…I had to work my way thru college. It took me 6 years to get my bachelors degree. Upon graduation I got a good job in industry. It lasted 15 years. Then, Industry, decided to make a better bottom line by cutting back salaries and benefits ( It started with IBM in 1993). I was downsized. I was confident with my experience/education I would get a good job. Wrong. Companies really did not care if you had a degree and or experience. I earned less and less income with each job I got from 1993 to 2006. I was finally making minimum wage working retail for 35 hour per week ( retail does not give you 40 hours per week because then they would have to pay you time and half for overtime). I was earning $18,000 per year. Maybe in a broken down trailer on the mud flats of Louisiana, you can live on that but most places you can’t. We lost our house, declared bankruptcy and tried to live on our Social Security. I tried for one year but even in a low rental apartment had to go back to work, PT, to pay the bills. I now work 22.5 hrs per week making $11 per hour. Its better than retail but not much. The ” good jobs” in my area are all medical related. I could have started at $13 per hr in a hospital, doing admissions, but I needed some supplemental education. At 67 years of age I say F%$K more education !!!!….The “kids” getting out of college are facing the same problem as I had. Regardless of your degree you are going to be offered as Little as possible by most businesses because the economy is in the toilet. Having been unemployed, I know that the employment numbers are rigged. After one year on unemployment. I was called in to the Labor office and told…..” As of …., you are off unemployment insurance”…They gave us telephone numbers for food pantry’s and the anti suicide hot line. Nice. I have read that the real unemployment in this country is 22-30%. I don’t know. I do know that it is NOT NECESSARY to ” get a good education, to get a good job”…One junk job I had for two years was a mortgage loan originator. I saw people with good education making $25000 per year and stupid mindless slobs making $100,000 per year because they had a union or gov’t job. Education and talent don’t mean much. Its connections. Gov’t workers are now making $100,000 ( New york city police sanitation firemen…Nassau county police etc) per year and up. It does not take any economic genius to know that people making $18000 ( retail ) per year, cannot sustain gov’t workers making $100,000 per year. Certainly can’t support their benefits and retirement.
        MORAL: don’t waste 8 years like I did to get two degrees. Spend those 8 years in any job that pays a good wage and has benefits. Our cities are going broke ( Detroit for example) because people can’t live on retail income…while paying the benefits of the gov’t workers. People moved out of Detroit and it became a ghost town. With no people there are no people to tax…
        Tell your kids if you have any…..only get the education you need to get a good paying job ( like in medicine..EMT, nurse, etc.. which pays good wages )…..or go union….or go gov’t jobs…while these institutions still exist….Personally I think the entire system will crash very soon…

      33. When I started counseling college-bound high school students in 1992 the costs were already beginning to escalate faster than inflation and the ROI for many, when they did not research their options ahead of time, has gotten smaller and smaller. It does not need to be that way if students understand what college is for or even necessary. These two students learned their lessons in time.http://smartcollegeplanning.org/the-age-old-question/students-set-for-life-with-no-student-loans/

      34. My daughter had some student loan debt and paid it back on low wages. And she didn’t even have a chance to finish her degree. She HAD to go to work.
        But she was honest and paid back what she had gotten for a loan. Why can’t these over educated shits pay back their loans? They are too lazy to budget their money and they all want everything right now.

        Not all need a college education. There is a huge need in this country for vocational schools for welding, machinist, master plumbers, master electricians, etc. And the work that comes with the expertise in each discipline pays well. No, you might not get rich, but you will make a decentliving that is a lot better than retail

      35. You know, it is funny/sad. The left has always used the peasants as cannon fodder. As Che once said, “I know the campesinos (peasants) support us now; but when we come to power, they, too, will have to be liquidated” (they weren’t pure enough).

        Same with Trotsky, Lavrentiy Beria, former head of Stalin’s NKVD who fell out of favour, then taken out back, a rag stuffed in his mouth, and summarily shot. Or think Robespierre.

        This poor useful idiot kids, who now collectively owe over one TRILLION and can’t get out of this via bankruptcy, are dead – living in mommy’s basement, no job with their 18th C. Belgian Lesbian Musicology degree, and no future. Truth is, the left doesn’t care. Man has no ultimate value. There is no God, so man is just an animal, and even consciousness is just an epiphenomenon that means nothing. These kids are finding out, too late, that they funded their disgustingly lazy socialist prof who works 9 months a year, has all kinds of vacations, sabbaticals, two weeks or more at Christmas (which they don’t celebrate anyway), then retires at 55 on a GREAT pension (while you and I work to 70), etc.

        As Churchill once said, if you are 20 and not a socialist, you have no heart; if you are 30 and are still a socialist, you have no brain.

      36. Student loans are nothing but a scam to enrich the bankers and indoctrinate us to be compliant sheep. It’s time that we demand the end of the Federal Reserve, the ultimate ponzi schemers and demand that our money is backed by precious metal as stated in our Constitution.

      37. Everyone is missing the forest for the trees.

        The biggest problem about sending kids to college is that it is a scam from the word go.

        The biggest companies have people from India who they pay next to nothing working for them in the US via the visa system. When little Johnny or Becky or whomever graduates, they cant find a job because Google, Facebook, Disney (etc) have a bunch of people with visas working for them. It saves them money, a lot of money.

        Always follow the money…the money doesn’t lie.

        The kids graduating college, even those with degrees in valid subjects, don’t stand a chance.

      38. College is a trap, for the unwary or unconnected — not a proving ground.

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