This article was originally published by Ron Paul at the Ron Paul Institute
The Saudi version of the disappearance and murder of journalist Jamal Khashoggi seems to change every day or so. The latest is the Saudi government claim that the opposition journalist was killed in a “botched interrogation” at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul. Or was it a fist-fight? What is laughable is that the Saudi king has placed Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman, a prime suspect, in charge of the investigation of Khashoggi’s murder!
Though the official story keeps changing, what is unlikely to change is Washington’s continued relationship with Saudi Arabia. It is a partnership that is in no way beneficial to Americans or the US national interest.
President Trump has promised “severe punishment” if the Saudi government is found to have been involved in Khashoggi’s murder, but he also took off the table any reduction in arms sales to prop up the murderous Saudi war on Yemen. It’s all about jobs, said President Trump. So the Saudi killing of thousands in Yemen can go on. Some murders are more important than others, obviously.
The killing of Khashoggi puts the Trump Administration is in a difficult situation. President Trump views Iran as designated enemy number one. Next month the US Administration intends to impose a new round of sanctions designed to make it impossible for Iran to sell its oil on the international market. To keep US fuel prices from spiking over this move Trump is relying on other countries, especially Saudi Arabia, to pump more and make up the difference. But the Saudis have threatened $400 a barrel oil if President Trump follows through with his promise of “severe punishment” over the killing of Khashoggi.
The Saudis have also threatened to look for friendship in Moscow or even Tehran if Washington insists on “punishing” the regime in Riyadh. For a super-power, the US doesn’t seem to have many options.
What whole mess reveals is just how wise our Founding Fathers were to warn us against entangling alliances. For too many decades the US has been in an unhealthy relationship with the Saudi kingdom, providing the Saudis with a US security guarantee in exchange for “cheap” oil and the laundering of oil profits through the US military-industrial complex by the purchase of billions of dollars in weapons.
This entangling relationship with Saudi Arabia should end. It is unfortunate that the tens of thousands of civilians dead from Yemen to Syria due to Saudi aggression don’t matter as much as the murder of one establishment journalist like Khashoggi, but as one Clinton flack once said, we should not let this current crisis go to waste.
This is not about demanding that the Saudis change their ways, reform their society on the lines of a liberal democracy, or allow more women to drive. The problem with our relationship with Saudi Arabia is not about Saudi Arabia. It is about us. The United States should not be in the business of selling security guarantees overseas to the highest bidder. We are constantly told that the US military guarantees our own safety and so it should be.
No, this is about returning to a foreign policy that seeks friendship and trade with all nations who seek the same, but that heeds the warning of George Washington in his Farewell Address that “a passionate attachment of one nation for another produces a variety of evils.” If we care about the United States we must heed this warning. No more passionate attachments overseas. Friendship and trade over all.
Frontpage magazine says this guy was friends with Bin Laden.
“What Should We Do?”
Not a damn thing. This asshat was an active Muslim Brotherhood Agent and Obama protege who got exactly what he deserved !!! 🙂
If it had been Jamal the ditch digger, rather than Jamal the journalist, that joined the unliving would anyone care?
“The Saudis Keep Changing Their Story on the Murder of Khashoggi. What Should We Do?”
Shut up and go get me some more beer idiot!
Yep. I could care less.
I am wondering if the Khashoggi murder could become the spark that ignites the Middle East powder keg and WW III like what happened with the assassination of Archduke Ferdinanand of Austria at the beginning of WW I. It sounds like a pretty big deal if the US is ready to abandon the Saudis over the execution of one of their traitors!
Exactly, a Saudi (Muslim Brotherhood) traitor who got what he deserved. And no, its not gonna change US/SA relations. LSM is ratcheting this story up out of proportion because he was a NWO Agent working for WAPO.
Death to the NWO. It’s totally Constitutional !!! 🙂
Why do we care? Leave others alone and mind our own damn business is what we need to learn to do.
Well, Because the Saudi government tortured and murdered an AMERICAN CITIZEN…
Spud, he wasn’t an American citizen. And he was Muslim Brotherhood.
Another Obola protege !!! 🙂
Trump fans will believe anything he says while blowing demon spittle at his detractors. Less than half of the people support Trump. The rest find him more of the same anti-freedom exaggerated BS. Some are slow to catch on, others warmongering makes them stand at fake attention for their fascist leader.
I think you’re wrong.
We’ll get a good idea about it, Trump’s support, in less than two weeks and find out.
The only good scum muslim is a dead one.
Trump the perfect fascist leader who doesn’t care about hiding that fact. He goes with the Saudi take on the Khashoggi murder. People say oh well, I love Trump taking the life out of those poor people and illegal immigrants, let them eat cheap dog food. Hang on to that fake illusion of either party interested in your interests.
Be careful…. The FBI is indicting Russians like you for spreading discourse.
“let them eat cheap dog food.”
Exactly. Fook them, they need to stop breeding. I have as much care for them as the damn gopher out in the yard. I have known for many years neither party gives a shit about us. Orange Julius is no different just tells you what you want to hear.
Goddamn you are stupid.
The Saudis Keep Changing Their Story on the Murder of Khashoggi. What Should We Do?
We should insist they lower the price of oil as punishment.
Naaaah, We should do like we do everyone else! Blow the shit out of their country and steal all of it!
I’m with Ron Paul on this!
I am with the bone saws.
When Saudi Arabia runs out of oil then the bone saws will come out for them.
The good news is that we found out that Khashoggi was working for the “Enemy of the People” the “Washington Post.” Whatever outrage the American people were supposed to feel over Khashoggi’s brutal murder (cut up into little pieces while he was still alive in just seven minutes), disappeared as soon as I heard he worked for the “Washington Post.”
When the next American Civil War starts (fomented by the likes of the “New York Times” and the “Washington Post”), the bone saws will come out for them. too.
I predict bone saws will be a big deal in 2019. [sarcasm?]
A good handsaw will cut bones very well. I use one on deer and hog bones regularly.
He was a muslim brotherhood tool, just like the leftists in the usa. no loss.
Who cares O msnbc and alike it’s another story to use for the ongoing attack on trump
I think I’m going to add a bone saw to my preps.
Ehhhh, I will just get some long blades for my cordless sawzall! Or use the chainsaw, much less effort….
What should we do? Learn from this. If you want to criticize ‘the man’, then DO NOT walk into places full of ‘the man’s’ goons. Send in your lawyer!
Why is this different than what happened to a LaVoy Finicum leaving a secured compound to drive to a meeting with ‘the man’?
“What Should We Do?”
1. Don’t destabilize family, by imposing feminism, anywhere (like Khashoggi.) Family is the basic, social unit, foundational to your country.
2. Especially don’t do it, where torture is seen as an artform. (Some are put to sleep, numbed, coddled, or given a fancy pillow, while music is played. Others are kept aware, and a sport is made of them. That is intentional, not a tirade. Torture is an art, to these people. This was knowable.)
3. Don’t meddle in sovereign countries, or make it hard for them to do honest business.
4. Gassification and biodiesel, etc, etc, ad nauseam. Energy-in and energy-out, nothing is cheap or free. Still, why have we have built-up the Arabs. If you’re not realistically hurting your neighbor, netmeter and subsidize that; back a dollar with something real and useful.
I could care less about Khashoggi personally, he wasn’t a US citizen. However, regardless he was a reporter that apparently got under the skin of the Saudi’s. An attack upon him wasn’t an attack upon him but rather one on the Press. In the spirit of that Julian Assange is in the Ecuadorian Embassy in the UK hiding from the USA. Many politicians, including President Trump have stated that he should be executed. There is a war on the citizenry by government, across the globe. Sometimes its subtle, sometimes overt, but its there and its increasing.
“The press was to serve the governed, not the governors.” —U.S. Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black in New York Times Co. v. United States (1971) The freedom of the press, protected by the First Amendment, is critical to a democracy in which the government is accountable to the people.
Are you telling me that the NYT and the WP are not purveyors of ‘fake news’ and carrying water for the ‘deep state’? I am with you on the importance of the First Amendment but corruption has infected these institutions as well, as can be determined by their talking point agenda driven propaganda being spewed forth in a nonstop 24 hours/day news cycle. How can they be made accountable? Who is watching the watchmen?
“Who is watching the watchmen”
That question was asked 2000 years ago; we’re still waiting for a satisfactory answer. My point is the world is angry at this, beat into a frenzy by the MSM yet Julian Assange has to hide from the USA. Regardless Khashoggi was a reporter obviously out of favor with the Saudi’s. Thats an overt attack on the system.
Word is emerging that this guy was a muslim brotherhood stooge. (which means he fit right in at the Post) The crown prince seems to be taking out the trash in Saudi Arabia. Perhaps that’s the reason the king passed over others and selected him. Judgement hereby reserved until further information emerges.
he was a Saudi citizen killed in a Saudi embassy, its a Saudi matter not ours, but maybe our lamestream media are getting nervous.
What should we do?
Ignore any story as completely false when parts of the story change or dont add up at all, such as having no proof whatsoever. False flags and propaganda are famous for this tell.
We will be given tips like this to identify bs like a meter. Be smart and let them register on your own bs meter, then intuit your way through it!
I don’t give a shit. A Muslim Brotherhood reporter grabbed the bull and got the horns. I DO give a shit that the Saudis bankrolled the 9-11 attack which killed thousands of Americans, and NOTHING was done to them . If this media creation causes them to receive retribution from the US government it is about 10 years too late. If every one of those camel jockeys over there drowns in their own oil that’s just fine with me.
Khashoggi isn’t a American, is said to be Muslim Brotherhood, and has been negatively involved with the ruling Saudi royalty and been acting against it for a long time.
So why is it our business to get involved in it? And exactly why would Trump have anything at all to do with it?
Sometimes we need to learn how to mind our own business and let others mind theirs without our involvement.
funny, we have a supreme court justice die under questionable terms, takes calls to three justice of the peace to find one to pronounce him dead, over the phone. no autopsy, medical examination, nothing but elimination of one of the most important people in the ussa of amerika. and we worry about a “journalists” as if he were president. I guess it really isn’t funny.
The problem here is that the murdered “Journalist” was an AMERICAN CITIZEN. Opens up a whole can of worms on murdering US citizens if we let it slide…….
No he wasn’t. American citizens don’t need to visit the Saudi embassy in Turkey to get a marriage license.
We should do nothing – We are not the worlds policeman or moral cop.
The USA needs to adopt the Saudi approach to our American hating MSM.
Ok. Listen up. This is nothing more than a battle between Erdogan and MBS. For control of the caliphate. Why so much news coverage? Who tells the MSM what to say? You should know this by now. The Deep State. Brennan and Khashoggi were pretty close. The Muslim world may be realigning.
The Saudi royals are the most brutal dictatorship in the Middle East. Head choppers par excellent. They support terrorism all over the world, and are still funding the jihadist terrorists in Syria and Iraq.
Khashoggi was a CIA operative just like the useful idiot like Osama bin Laudin. the USSA will do nothing to upset their arms deal with the Saudis, because the USSA needs them to keep those evil Iranians in check.
Trump is a moron but I give him this: he is smarter than his supporters. He clearly gave the green light on the operation but had not taken into consideration how angry the Turks are with the US and Saudi.
Khashoggi was a dirtbag and friend of Osama. Good riddance. I forecast Halal Khashoggi will be a dish for decades to come.
What Should We Do? Nothing. Mind our own business. Better they kill each other so it is one less we have to do.
Waylay the above post. We should start being friendly with the Russians before they do.
The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution says that the people, not government, provide their own security. This Amendment amends the previous “supreme law of the land” government supremacy that made the President “Commander-in-Chief of the Army, Navy and Militia” of the United States and that made the Congress the “prescriber” of “arming and disciplining” of the Militia (the people as a military force). There’s no other reason for these Amendments to have been made conditional by the necessary number of states needed to ratify the new Constitution of the United States before those states would ratify it other than those Amendments amended the previous, government-supremacist provisions of that Constitution. The Bill of Rights did not “restate” anything. The Bill of Rights Amended things in the Constitution that were contrary to the rights of the people in their several states.