‘The Republic is No More’ Ron Paul Warns: “Police brutality and militarization may induce a violent event far beyond Ferguson”

by | Jan 12, 2015 | Conspiracy Fact and Theory, Experts, Forecasting, Headline News, Ron Paul | 242 comments

Do you LOVE America?



    In a stark outlook and set of predictions for 2015, former Congressman and presidential candidate Ron Paul cautioned that America has descended into a police state where liberties are “under siege” and further violent events and inner city turmoil, such as that seen in Ferguson, were likely to occur:

    If Americans were honest with themselves they would acknowledge that the Republic is no more. We now live in a police state. If we do not recognize and resist this development, freedom and prosperity for all Americans will continue to deteriorate. All liberties in America today are under siege.

    It didn’t happen overnight. It took many years of neglect for our liberties to be given away so casually for a promise of security from the politicians. The tragic part is that the more security was promised — physical and economic — the less liberty was protected.


    This is especially noticeable in the police war on the lawbreakers — real and unreal — in America. The failures of social and economic policy of the past 50 years have led to a mounting friction between the local police and the rights of the people. Local police have been militarized and have become an integral part of the national police state. A police culture that accepts the principle of initiating unjustified violence against citizens has become a serious problem.

    The news is constant. If it’s not Ferguson, it’s New York City. If not New York City, it’s Chicago or Detroit or Cleveland. And I believe the violence in our cities is only in its early stages. We had a taste of the conflict in the 1960s, but the fundamental values of equal justice and economic opportunity have receded further from reality. Failing to understand why the past 50 years of government expansion to eradicate poverty has only worsened the conditions of our cities will guarantee that the violent conflicts we see erupting today will only get worse.

    In a lengthy essay, Ron Paul spells out much of the bigger picture problems that have created fractures in a system that is doomed to fail, and designed to divide and conquer the population as it comes apart through an orchestrated game of musical chairs. Paul argues:

    Many factors are involved in the crisis of our cities, including the following:

    Police brutality, militarization of the police, excessive laws, courts and law enforcement efforts ignoring the principles of equal justice,

    Racism that exists to some degree on both sides of the conflict,

    Rampant crime reflecting structural poverty,

    Absence of an understanding of the difference between earned and stolen wealth,

    Race baiting,

    The entitlement mentality, self-reliance not being a goal for many, and the breakdown of the family unit,

    The war on drugs, and

    [especially, the elephant in every room and street riot]

    The lack of economic understanding regarding the Federal Reserve, taxes, welfare, economic consequences of constant war, deficits, and excessive government spending.

    The tyranny of a militarized police crackdown is ultimately a symptom of transferring far too much power to a centralized, federal government in the name of increasing “security” at the expense of “liberty.” Thanks to lobbyists for defense contractors, Big Pharma and the prison industry, the military industrial complex has put weapons of war in the hands of police, while using the drug war to upend impoverished communities and justify a crackdown:

    This social disruption has motivated the enthusiastic growth and militarization of our local police departments. The law and order crowd thrives on excessive laws and regulations that no US citizen can escape. The out-of-control war on drugs is the worst part, and it generates the greatest danger in poverty-ridden areas via out-of-control police. It is estimated that these conditions have generated up to 80,000 SWAT raids per year in the United States. Most are in poor neighborhoods and involve black homes and businesses being hit disproportionately. This involves a high percentage of no-knock attacks. As can be expected many totally innocent people are killed in the process. Property damage is routine and compensation is rare. The routine use of civil forfeiture of property has become an abomination, totally out of control, which significantly contributes to the chaos. It should not be a surprise to see resentment building up against the police under these conditions.

    The overreaction by both sides continues to make the situation much worse. As a result, policing in general is out of control, and anything suggesting racial confrontation leads to rioting, looting, and property destruction. Civil liberties are ignored by the police, and the private property of innocent bystanders is disregarded by those resenting police violence. When police overreact and unfairly enforce the law, it elicits a violent reaction from those on the receiving end. This only escalates the problem. It’s an invitation for outside provocateurs to rush in and aggravate the racial tensions…

    Why do the race baiters have so much success in making this type of conflict a racial problem alone? Unfortunately many of them make a living off stirring up trouble. If the situation were understood in terms of police brutality and poverty, the evening news would be dramatically different. Turning it into strictly a racial conflict narrows the discussion, and the idea of responsibility for one’s action no longer needs to be discussed.


    The economic and moral decay of American society is reflected in the loss of liberties. This problem affects all Americans and not just the poor in the inner city. Gradual erosion of personal and economic liberty has proceeded for a century. The loss of our liberty has sharply accelerated since the 9/11 attacks. We have done to ourselves what no foreign enemy could have possibly accomplished.

    Government surveillance provides the state with information that enables it to know our every move. The protection of the Fourth Amendment is gone. Many Americans are comfortable with the sacrifice of liberty for safety and accept the notion that government’s key responsibility is to keep us safe.

    Society has been trained to expect government to provide everything – unlimited safety and security, free money and benefits and benevolent control over all areas of society. But the illusion is dangerous and cannot provide these things.

    Cheap prosperity for the rich and benefits and handouts for the poor come at the expense of more and more taxes, money printing, surveillance and control over everything from education to medicine, food, media and information.

    In short, Ron Paul argues that the Welfare State, and the perpetual War State, have made tighter police controls a requirement.

    Welfare, which is the use of force to transfer wealth from one group to another, is based on a moral principle of equality that in fact is not moral and does not work. The wealthy special interests, such as banks, the military-industrial complex, the medical industry, the drug industry, and many other corporatists, quickly gain control of the system. Crumbs may be thrown to the poor, but the principle of wealth transfer is hijacked and used for corporate and foreign welfare instead of wealth transfers to the poor.


    The very expensive war on poverty has after 50 years only made matters worse, compounding the problems of poverty and inflation while hurting most of the people the “war” was supposed to help. Currently our government spends over $1 trillion per year on anti-poverty programs. Over the past 50 years, over $16 trillion was spent, i.e., wasted. And yet poverty and dire economic conditions remain the major factor in the violence that persists, which incites or gives the police the excuse to overreact to maintain order. The plans and expectations for the war on poverty must have been seriously flawed.

    Although the degree of poverty is different for the various races in the United States, all categories — Asian, white, Hispanic, and black — have had a steady increase in real median income from 1964 until the year 2000, when the first of many bubbles started bursting. In all four race categories incomes are lower since then. With the economy moving into the next stage of liquidation of bad investment and debt, we should expect this trend to continue. Economic setbacks and a decrease in real income are not limited to blacks in the inner city.


    Reality is now setting in for America and for that matter for most of the world. The piper will get his due even if “the children” have to suffer. The deception of promising “success” has lasted for quite a while. It was accomplished by ever-increasing taxes, deficits, borrowing, and printing press money. In the meantime the policing powers of the federal government were systematically and significantly expanded. No one cared much, as there seemed to be enough “gravy” for the rich, the poor, the politicians, and the bureaucrats.

    As the size of government grew and cracks in the system became readily apparent, a federal police force was needed to regulate our lives and the economy, as well as to protect us from ourselves and make sure the redistribution of a shrinking economic pie was “fair” to all. Central economic planning requires an economic police force to monitor every transaction of all Americans. Special interests were quick to get governments to regulate everything we put in our bodies: food, medications, and even politically correct ideas. IRS employees soon needed to carry guns to maximize revenue collections.

    The global commitment to perpetual war, though present for decades, exploded in size and scope after 9/11. If there weren’t enough economic reasons to monitor everything we did, fanatics used the excuse of national security to condition the American people to accept total surveillance of all by the NSA, the TSA, FISA courts, the CIA, and the FBI. The people even became sympathetic to our government’s policy of torture.

    In a fundamental way, the naive calls to expand government power in Washington over a period of decades has made the resulting police state, increasing federal control over local police and the rise of a national police force a predictable reciprocation to undue power that cannot meet the needs of the people:

    To keep the people obedient to statism that originated at the federal level of government, control of education was required. It is now recognized that central control of education has actually ruined education, while costs have skyrocketed. National control of medical care has brought a similar result. This has meant more money for bureaucrats, as well as drug, insurance, and health management companies, and less money for medical care. Constantly more police are required to run our lives at greater costs while providing less benefit. “Nationalizing” both medical care and education has provided a great incentive to increase the policing powers of the federal government.

    The predictable poverty that results from such a terrible system is now upon us and is a strong motivation for the militarization of local police as part of the expansion of the national police state. Temporary and perceived benefits of government overreach and expanded policing powers end up becoming the real problem.

    Basically a vacuum has been created for total control to fill.

    To escape this nightmarish cycle of increased poverty met with increased police response, the root of the economic problems must be realized – allowing the central government to plan the economy, and enrich wealthy insiders who are supposed to manage vast programs to benefit the many is certain to end in greater disparity in wealth and a concentrated of more government power at the expense of the civil liberties of the individuals of society.

    The killing of Michael Brown in Ferguson plus many similar incidents are signs of a serious economic and political crisis that is not limited to police brutality and runaway violence.

    Police brutality and militarization may well induce a violent event far beyond what we have seen in Ferguson. It also can serve as an excuse. But it is not the root cause of turmoil. The real cause is poverty, the entitlement mentality, and the breakdown of the rule of law. Moral decay and the national police state are the real culprits.

    More police with improved training will not do much to deal with this growing conflict. Bowing to entitlement demands from the “victims” will not be helpful in a bankrupt system. We have too many police, too many laws, and too much exemption of government officials from the crimes they commit. Both adding police and increasing entitlements involve expanding the role of government in an effort to solve problems that too much government has already caused. Government can only be expanded by diminishing the people’s liberty. This problem can only be ended by maximizing liberty and getting people to realize that self-reliance, hard work, and the absence of coercive force by individuals and government is the only way to reverse the downward trend from which we are suffering.

    Instead of keeping us safe, and redistributing the wealth to make everyone more equal, and the poor better off, government control has lead to an all out federal government war on all Americans, according to Ron Paul:

    It’s the federal government that leads the charge in all our domestic wars, which, in addition to the global war on terrorism, include the war on drugs, taxpayers, and poverty, all of which contribute to the constant war on our privacy. Today every American is a suspect. Our president has established a policy that an American citizen can be assassinated without even being charged with a crime. The national police are made up of over 100,000 bureaucrats and police officials who carry guns to enforce federal law on the American citizens. The Founders and our Constitution intended that policing powers would be the responsibility of the individual states. That was forgotten a long time ago.

    Not only do employees of agencies like the CIA, FBI, and BATF carry guns, employees of OSHA, EPA, Fish and Wildlife, and many other agencies enforcing regulations do so as well. The notion of total homeland security being provided by a heavily armed Department of Homeland Security was foreign to America up until just recently. Today, whether it’s riots in our cities or chaos after a national disaster like a hurricane, the Feds are there taking charge over all local officials and property owners. It shouldn’t surprise us that our local police departments have become an arm of a runaway federal police mentality that mimics an army.

    The Founders did not even want a standing army. They wanted only a militia. Today we endure, at the expense of our liberties, a national police force armed like an invading military force. We are destined to see a continued escalation of violence in our cities as the internal conflicts grow. Instead of the police quelling the violence, they unfortunately have become part of it.

    2015 holds promise of worsening conditions, including inner city uprisings and police violence. The economic shoe, too, will fall, if not in 2015, then at some point, unless these policies are abandoned.

    Ron Paul urges:

    We must get people to reject flawed economic policy if we want a real war on poverty. LBJ’s war on poverty was no more successful than his Vietnam War — or any war since, for that matter. A national government that can print money as needed to finance extraordinary extravagance can function longer than a city, state, or private entity, but it too must eventually “file for bankruptcy” albeit in a different fashion. As we are now seeing, the bankruptcy of a nation also involves poverty for many. This situation will continue to worsen. Since poverty is a major contributing factor to the violence of excessive police militarization, some fundamentals must be understood. The economic theories of Paul Samuelson, Paul Krugman, John Maynard Keynes, and all those who claim to know how to “regulate” the economy to benefit the poor, must be challenged and abandoned.

    Read Ron Paul’s entire essay at the Ron Paul Institute, including the above excepts and much more about the underlying causes of American unrest that many have seen coming for some time, but are now here, and worsening with each new crisis and each new demand for greater control and fewer freedoms.

    Will anyone wake up and stop this before it is too late?


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      1. Everyone seems to be wondering why Muslim Terrorists are so quick to commit suicide.

        Lets have a look at the evidence: -No Christmas -No television -No nude women -No football -No pork chops -No hot dogs -No burgers -No beer -No bacon -Rags for clothes -Towels for hats -Constant wailing from some idiot in a tower -More than one wife -More than one mother-in-law !!!! -You can’t shave -Your wife can’t shave -You can’t wash off the smell of donkeys -You cook over burning camel shit

        – Your wife is picked by someone else for you

        – and your wife smells worse than your donkey

        Then they tell them that “when they die, it all gets letter”???

        Well No Shit Sherlock! It’s not like it could get much worse!

        • Violence begets violence. When they fuck with me mindless, blinding violence will follow because I ain’t taking their shit. No ones.


            This is very interesting and we all need to read it from start to finish. And send it on to everyone. Maybe this is why our American Muslims are so quiet and not speaking out about any atrocities.

            Can a good Muslim be a good American?

            This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years. The following is his

            Theologically – no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon god of Arabia.

            Religiously – no. Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam. (Quran,2:256)(Koran)

            scripturally – no. Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.

            Geographically – no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.

            Socially – no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.

            Politically – no. Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan.

            Domestically – no. Because he is instructed to marry four Women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him. (Quran 4:34 )

            Intellectually – no. Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.

            Philosophically – no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran does not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or

            Spiritually – no. Because when we declare ‘one nation under God,’ The Christian’s God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in the Quran’s 99 excellent names.

            Therefore, after much study and deliberation… Perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. They obviously cannot be both ‘good’ Muslims and ‘good’ Americans. Call it what you wish it’s still the truth. You had better believe it. The more who understand this, the better it
            will be for our country and our

            The religious war is bigger than we know or understand!

            Footnote: The Muslims have said they will destroy us from within. SO FREEDOM IS NOT FREE.

            • jews have the same kinds of agendas, christians do to, catholics, sure…actually mostly all religion have the same agendas, even atheists…heck, everyone, even down to those who don’t give a sh1t…everyone wishes the world reflected their own perceived thought and image.

              the only religion that really matters is money.

              land isn’t free, you can’t set up camp/a house anywhere you want…without land, you can’t grow crops, raise livestock… no shelter, nothing to eat. you need money.

              money is god/god is money.

              you can pray your little hearts out without money…but how long are you gonna live on prays alone?

              the smarter “religious” people will use its flocks of manipulable sheep to get rich…that is the true agenda of religion. so no matter where any form of religion goes, they can thrive as long as they have a mass of idiots supporting their (hidden)agendas. the bigger the flock, the easier it will be for them to mold society into their own image.

              so can muslims(or other) be good americans? do they need to be if there are more of them than americans? well, why don’t you ask the native americans…

              • Excellent commentary:


                “Les fruits de la révolution: Judaïsme, Nohaisme, Holocaustianisme

                “Paris, yesterday, in the most colossal farce of world history, you marched for ‘freedom’ behind Benjamin Netanyahu. Today you are militarily occupied. Judeomasonic ‘Liberté’ has rendered you a ‘Jewish’ ghetto, soon to be a heap of rubble if you continue to play into the stage-managed revolution. Netanyahu wants ‘the Jews’ out of France so that the ‘clash of civilizations’ can be fully unleashed on your land. If you don’t understand this, you haven’t learned anything from Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Syria, Ukraine, et al. Formerly Catholic France is hated more than any of these smoldering nations by the rabbis and bankers behind the revolutions.

                “Don’t think for a second that marching for the ‘freedom’ to publish cartoons of the Trinity sodomizing itself and mocking Muhammed will satiate these intolerant Talmudic fundamentalist crazies. It will not. Contrary to ‘truth seeker’ misinformation, Islam is vastly preferable to the rabbis than Christianity, which is not to say that I believe there is any Christianity in France; only that the rabbis want to destroy even the remaining empty shell of Christendom throughout Europe and they intend for Islam to be their scourge.

                “To traditionalist readers, radical Islam is not a chastisement from God, that is, unless the rabbis and bankers are your god.”

                • Thanks John!

                  • If we could abolish the FED and stop the perpetual War State, we could recover AND take care of our vulnerable people. Without the money-changers and war hawks, we could have peace here.

                    • greed and the lust for power can never be abolished. they are omnipotent forces.

              • Leave it to the loons to make it abut the Jews.

                There’s a story right now over at Infowars about the Colorado pot law turning 1yo and that it hasn’t been any kind of disaster the prohibitionists claimed it would be. You guessed it, some LOON in the very first post blames it on the Jews.

                You nutbags are deranged.

                • you should be laughing at yourself(i’ll pity you instead, because i find truly stupid people very sad)… either you read the 1st few words and ignored the rest, or you’re just plain stupid and focused on “jew” because of personal reasons…

                  if you bothered to read it all, you should have been able to notice that i didn’t single out any 1 type…but from your comment, it shows that your single-mindedness chose to focus on just jews.

                  learn to think outside the box and look at all angles…and you may one day be wise instead of just plain stupid, ignorant and close minded as someone who only has a one track mind tends to be.

                  • Oh ok, so when you said “Jews have the same kinds of agendas” you weren’t really talking about jews. And when that anti-Semite nutbag John Q sides with you….


                    • here, read that again dummy:

                      “jews have the same kinds of agendas, christians do too, catholics, sure…actually mostly all religion have the same agendas, even atheists…heck, everyone, even down to those who don’t give a sh1t…everyone wishes the world reflected their own perceived thought and image.”

                      if you think what i wrote, only has to do with jews, again, you’re an idiot…to put it plainly for you(since it obviously wasnt the first time, i merely suggest, no matter what you’re a part of, it’s all the same…do you understand? can you wrap that around your little brain?

                      twist it around all you want or think more than what there actually is, because your ego commands you to, but it can’t be clearer and simpler.

                      (please don’t breed)

                • and btw, i already had you pegged as an idiot as soon as you mentioned infowars…anyone who listens to that fat turd alex jones is nothing but mindless idiot.

                  • You’ll notice that pointing to a story about Colorado weed on a website does not mean one listens to Alex Jones. Oops. I blame the jews for your inability to correctly think. Moron.

                    • you feeling the need to point people over to your precious infowars and its “story”, tells me it holds meaning to your sad existence.


                      now go get back to listening to your loud mouth goof, alex jones. just keep his garbage to yourself…it’s embarrassing.

            • Wrong.

              You call it! Some may call it Islam. But by the teachings of that religion, it is Radical Islam.
              You can not change the spots on a Leopard

        • Yea, that is about it, bob.

          The Quran/Koran, promises “the men” many things in the afterlife, that is forbidden in this one.

          As many wives a man wants, since it is forbidden to have more than four in this life.

          Drinking of alcoholic beverages is acceptable then, but is forbidden now.

          Taking of pre-pubescent children for sexual pleasure is acceptable then, but is frowned upon now. That is unless it is a non-muslim child.

          Taking a young boy for homosexual purposes is acceptable then, but is forbidden to do so with any man, now.

          Sounds to me like the afterlife for Muslims is gonna be one big drunken orgy. Kinda makes one think back to the
          times of Sodom and Gommorah, when all those things, including beastiality, was taking place.

          and… who says we all are worshiping the same God?

          • Thanks Mac 😉

            • It’s done, stick a fork in it.

              Same poop, new sunrise.


              • GMAFB

                Here you go how about this one?


                THAT OUR MINDS WANT TO BE IN.

            • America has something like 25% of the ENTIRE WORLDS prison population…..Yet, we call ourselves a free country??? Think about that next time the msm talks about prison camps in N. Korea or some other country we’re suppose to hate. Blind Allegiance………God Help Us. P.S. Good patriots do not ask questions!!! now show me ur papers!

              • Yeah, we also have 100 million total wastes of human dna running around committing all kinds of crime, much of which is violent. People always forget that part when they bring up our prison population.

              • Shortly after 911 my wife and I had gone to New York City (never again) for my best friends’ wedding. It was planned in advance and the timing sucked, we have pictures of the WTC still on fire and firemen spraying water on them. Much was closed and everything was depressing anyway so we walked to battery park to sit and pretend like we weren’t in a city of all asphalt, concrete, and glass.
                Now I understand that 911 was two weeks ago and army guys are everywhere. I do I swear, but as we started to enter a public park (full of trees, grass, and benches overlooking the water) army guys demanded to see my ID. I refused. A guy on top of an apc swings a mounted machine gun at me as guys start screaming for our ID. My wife was about to cry and was saying honey OMG show them your license they’re about to shoot us. It was tense.
                Instead I looked straight at the guy with the mounted .50 cal I think and said “Why don’t you try a russian accent and demand papers please?” I was pretty sure I was about to be shot, they were so keyed up (and I understand sort of, we have so many pictures of debris and stores with 2 inches of dust over everything, 3000+ dead about 10 days ago). They just kept screaming for my ID and pointing lots of guns at us at this point.
                So I screamed back, calling them nazis, commies, and a whole lot of other bad names. They never did let me in that public park, but I never gave them Id or told them my name either. My wife was scared and furious with me at the time, crying about almost getting shot; but now she thinks I was right and would tell those soldiers that it’s not the land of the free if you have to have ID to get into a free public park in the middle of the day.
                This country hasn’t gotten more free since then.

                • Over 3200 abortion deaths everyday in this country, 50mil since legalized.

                  Jeremiah: They have built the high places of Topheth in the Valley of Ben Hinnom to burn their sons and daughters in the fire–something I did not command, nor did it enter my mind.

                  From Proverbs: Go to the ant, you sluggard; consider its ways and be wise! 7 It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, 8 yet it stores its provisions in summer and gathers its food at harvest. 9 How long will you lie there, you sluggard? When will you get up from your sleep? 10 A little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest– 11 and poverty will come on you like a bandit and scarcity like an armed man.

                  12 A scoundrel and villain, who goes about with a corrupt mouth, 13 who winks with his eye, signals with his feet and motions with his fingers, 14 who plots evil with deceit in his heart– he always stirs up dissension. 15 Therefore disaster will overtake him in an instant; he will suddenly be destroyed–without remedy. 16 There are six things the LORD hates, seven that are detestable to him: 17 haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, 18 a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, 19 a false witness who pours out lies and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers.

                  WISDOM can be found if you search for it in the right place.

              • other countries have maybe a hundred laws, America has probably fifteen thousand Fed and state laws with more being signed into law everyday and each law has fifteen loop holes. it would be hard for anyone to get thru one day without breaking some law. somewhere I read that one in ten people are felons, soon everyone will be a felon.

                • You are not even close! There are 20,000 gun laws on the books alone.

                • The last time I checked, 1999, there was 133,000 laws on the state and federal books. Apparently not enough to manage a civilization.

              • As long as they lock up blacks, who cares?!? They’re all criminals, anyway!

              • That’s one stupid argument. So we are not supposed to have prisons because we are a free society? I agree that some are incarcerated far to long for some given crimes, but to say everyone should be freed because we have a “free” society is dangerous at best.

          • Folks,

            This is definitely one of the best pieces by Ron Paul that I have read. Really, the whole article should be published here if possible. I read the article on Drudge/Zerohedge earlier. I highly recommend the article to all preppers. Makes you want to weep how we have destroyed our country and squandered so much and loss so much due to liberal policies and politicians.

            With a bowed head and in deep meditation/depression pondering a Republic that is No More atop a Bald Cyprus in the Atchafalaya hinterlands.


            • Hows the rat (Muskrat) season going down there? Prices ain’t as good this year as they were last year. Get more here for the meat than the hide. The skinning contest at Golden Hill will be next month and the local girls along with some from your neck of the woods will be modeling the fur coats. Good food and a great time. Muskrat and gravy along with oyster fritters.

            • Laeagle, I’m also a Ron Paul supporter and it is one of his best essays ever. He was the only hope we had for PEACEFUL change in this land and now it’s going to take a 2nd civil war/revolution to save this country. There’s only part of the article I take issue with and that’s when he mentions racism on BOTH sides. No way. The racism is totally with all of the minority groups aimed against white people. Other than that, spot on essay.

            • Yup. I haven’t voted since I voted for RP and probably won’t ever again. I love him and think he was our last best hope for peaceful improvement of our government.

            • and just think, the sheeple had a chance to make him commander in chief.

              • dumb sheep dont elect presidents, they are put in office by rich powerful people, and they do the bidding of those who put them there. But the dumb sheep think they have some power with their vote, this is what is wrong in america now, your vote was worthless all along, your so called leaders sold your asses out long ago and you still vote for them.

                • Yes. And this, coming from RP whose father was a Freemason and whose son loves Ann Rand and he named him after her. This is more fake opposition and I don’t listen to any of those who don’t CHANGE anything- they just get the sheep even more riled up. What a joke. Stop listening to these people!

                  • You probably would have found fault with George Washington and Thomas Jefferson. By the way my father was a Freemason and you couldn’t find a more honorable, Christian man anywhere. I know about the Masons and only the top levels, ussually above 32nd degree, are evil.
                    Ron Paul is the only man in my, my father’s, and my grandfather’s lifetime that has been a strict constitutionist.

        • Hello everyone and Happy New year.

          I like what RP has to say on “Liberty” and I supported him at one time, but his sound money views and economic views must be examined by us to be wise decision makers.

          On Von Mises


          On Gold

          History of Central Banks and why we must End the Federal Reserve

          Part 1 (48 B.C. – 1791)

          Part 2 (1791- 1865)

          Part 3 (1865- 1913)
          History of Central Banks and why we must End the Federal Reserve

          “The Federal Reserve is now a government within a government. It is totally out of control. Congress doesn’t control it. It’s funded by the banks and we either have constitutional government or we don’t.”

          Based on the above, and being of free mind, I have serious reservations about RP. Advocating a revolution without a well thought out political end game is dangerous indeed. Let us take this time that God has afforded us and not come to hasty conclusions.

          The Jury is still out, in fact it has not even convened.

          That would be US, the united peoples of these states.

          Scout out.

          • History of Central Banks and why we must End the Federal R

            Sorry for no link.
            Part 3 (1865- 1913)

            I would like to add this video recommended by Tyler Durden of Zero hedge.


            I beg you to watch this one, I RARELY BEG.

            Tally sticks stick out , no gold used, 700 years.

            It is important we do not get caught up on materialism vs. life in this time. Or gold must be money meme.

            Most do not have gold and it could lead to more suffering vs. benefits to us, and our relatives, kids, future gen…


            Be well,


            • Closing the circle, in this article Memehunter connects the founding fathers of the Libertarian party directly to the top of the Money Power chain of command. It was Alfred Kohlberg, fronting for his boss Bernard Baruch, who played a key role in both the cover up of Jewish involvement in Bolshevism and building up the other side of the dialectic: Libertarianism…


              The Illuminati elites are toying with us, trapping people into a deceitful dialectic whose poles both lead to a domination by a transnational plutarchy, and sidetracking them away from the truth. More than ever, it is time for us to exit the Matrix by escaping the Illuminati dialectic and starting to devise our own solutions.

              I support LIBERTY, but can not in good conscious support this fake economics called libertarianism. Fooled no more.

            • “money as debt 3…” link is dead.

          • On clear political goal, I mean something that has a real chance, of solving real problems.

            We must also consider that the nation has subtly been divided for decades and are being “actively” divided and attacked today by those who stand to gain by our demise.


            I know everyone. We will in the end.


        • Yeah Bob,

          The award-winning ‘authors’ who reward themselves over history’s cry for Freedom got better by the time they wrote the 3rd Book.

          I think they’ve maxed out on F&)#ked up? Do you?

        • Now that was funny! (One thing to note is that it does not say the 72 virgins are female!)

        • http://zidbits.com/2011/12/what-is-the-most-decorated-military-unit-in-us-history/



        • Bob, you made my day!! My day really sucked til I read your response…best damn belly laugh I had in two years!!




          LIVE AND LEARN

          • Good thing you’re gonna be ready when the SHTF eh?

            • Hope you feel better soon.

              We were sick here a couple weeks ago with some virus or flu.

          • Look at the Sqwincher Corp. They make electrolyte products in several forms. I like the Qwik Stiks…that are powder in a small foil tube. Each one makes a 20 oz single serving. A bag of 50 tubes, guts in your picket. That makes for taking up less prepping space….& also works well in your go bag….weighs virtually nothing…. They also make Popsicles , gummy bears, etc.
            Available through industrial distribution….Grainger, Fastenal, MSC, Airgas, etc. Also on Amazon & other net suppliers. And the bets part ….has 50% less salt…..so it tastes better???& is better for you.
            Standing by in Montgomery County Texas

            • Does uts in your picket = fits in your pocket, by chance?

              • THEN I TYPED IT WRONG…

                Does “guts in your picket” = “fits in your pocket”, by chance?

          • if you have water, salt and suger, you have electrolytes. 1 tsp of salt, 7 tsp of sugar mixed in a liter of water. good to go. tastes like crap- why gatoraid at all add other stuff, but it works.
            (no charge)

        • oooo lawdy my butt hasn’t been this sore since college…

          • Jalapeno challenge!

          • Let me guess, you were drunk and he told you he loved you?

          • So you gave up homosexuality after college did you?

            • You guys don’t really believe his gross posts to be true do you?

        • Funny stuff Bob,
          Must suck to be a hardcore islamist, they dont get it that organized religion is just about control over others,
          Faith and religion are very different things

          • I’ve often wondered why there’s so many of them. Guess “misery loves company” rings true.

        • Hey Bob,

          You should run for President. Oh wait a second you can’t, you have a clue as to what the facts are.

        • bob, Probably why Christians are so quick to go to war. After all, they worship a “Jealous God.”

        • That is so cute, Bob! However, if a Muslim sees that post, you know you’re in deep trouble, right? LOL!!

      2. This once great U.S.A. is falling apart…

        • I have been a Ron Paul fan for many years, but how unusual another hate LE article. This should draw the usual flies. Trekker Out

          • Mountain,see it as much more then a just hate the police state article(which is fine in itself),he talks about the mic/fed reserve/pharm industry among other thingsand all the bought out shills for such nonsense.The wealthy special interests, such as banks, the military-industrial complex, the medical industry, the drug industry, and many other corporatists, quickly gain control of the system,this just a small part of article,did you read the whole article?

            • Thank you God

              Thanks to you too, for posting this Stolz.

        • It has been since the libtard communist socialist hippy fascists removed God from our country in the 60’s.

        • A Necessary cycle friend.

          Nothing is gone.

          Energy can not be destroyed, only changed me friend.

          “It is up to us.”

        • Ron Paul: “What to expect in 2015?”

          “A major geopolitical or economic event, greater than the crisis of 2008, is fast approaching. The precipitating event will be a surprise to the majority of politicians and economists. There are many “next shoe to drop” possibilities, and one could happen any time or any place.

          Wall Street will be protected, and the trillions of dollars of big banks derivatives will be absorbed by the Fed, the FDIC, and ultimately by the American taxpayers in the next financial crisis.

          There’s no doubt the poor will get poorer and the rich richer until the spirit of revolution in the people calls a halt to the systematic destruction of freedom in America.”

          Could the huge drop in oil prices be a black swan event?

          Boom Goes The Dynamite: The Crashing Price Of Oil Is Going To Rip The Global Economy To Shreds

          “If you were waiting for a “black swan event” to come along and devastate the global economy, you don’t have to wait any longer.”

          “…the price of U.S. oil is sitting at $45.76 a barrel. It has fallen by more than 60 dollars a barrel since June.”

          “At a price of less than $50 a barrel, it is just a matter of time before we see a huge wave of energy company bankruptcies, massive job losses, a junk bond crash followed by a stock market crash,”

          Economic Collapse blog

          • That depends on what we decide to do…

            Wisdom comes from all ages.

            Let us truly listen and decide wisely.

          • KY Mom—–

            That’s an interesting point you make….causes one to wonder a bit, per the derivatives markets & all the future contracts at +$100/barrel..and leveraging and how deep in the pocket, the leveraged ‘insurance policies’ go!!!!

            …things could get real nasty, methinks …especially after that Saudi guy stated.. …oil will never reach +$100 a barrel again!!!

            ..I wonder if he were referring to the “dollar trade” specifically?


            Who knows!!!

            ..ask “DK” ..!!!!

          • It has been hedged. The banks are the big losers in this go around. Drilling will stop, but all the current wells will keep pumping. Saudi’s want to knock Russia out of the game and are willing to live with $20 oil. We will never see $1 gas again because taxes are more than half a buck.

        • WOW eppe what a great enlightening observation. How can you be sure? Bwhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Got any links?

      3. Too bad he did not become our president. I believe we are running out of time. How long do you think we have before the collapse? Prepare people, and God bless you all.

        • One of the best explanations of our current society and our inevitable future. As for your question on when, I’ll go out on a limb and say this year. Good luck.

      4. For the nation, and the world as a whole nation of nations, we have come to a point of no return.

        Is a moral return possible? Yes, BUT; and it’s a big but, it has to be unanimous, and it has to include a change of heart, mind, and soul, of millions.

        The main reason it won’t happen is because it hinges around one word, and that word is “nasty” to the lips of the progressives and liberals. It is christianity, and in it’s true form, can bring about miracles and hope where there was none.

        When a nation/country’s governments aren’t behind the people for a moral change, then all is left is decay.

        At some point, the decay leads to destruction; utterly and completely. We are seeing that decay, and early stages of destruction in some of our cities here in America and Canada.

        More on the near horizon. Prep to the max.

        • PWTW.

          I do not think this country will last two more years.
          It does not have the will to turn itself around because it can not see the evil within the government and the outside influence that is asserted upon it. Aided and abetted by those who wish to castrate any form of self reliance and to bring those into the nanny state.
          The American Spirit has become a ghost. If it were not so, we would not be where we are now in History. As our society embraces outside ideology and customs, more than the ones that founded this nation, may the yoke of tyranny rest softy on your shoulders. To those with the spark or resistance I say. Si Vis Pacem , Para Bellum.

          There are too few of us.

          • Absolutely, slingshot.

            The “american spirit”, you speak of, is no longer in the hearts and minds of 95% of the citizens.

            The other 4.9%, have it in their mind, but it isn’t in their hearts any longer.

            I still have it in my heart and mind, but; I am slowly losing heart for it. Knowing how the average american has been duped by TPTB/gov, there is little heart left to cling to any semblance of what we once thought of, as a Republic.

            If not for the faith and hope of our Heavenly Father’s Kingdom to Come, I wouldn’t want to live this worldly life any longer.
            Now that I see that light at the end of the tunnel getting brighter everyday, I am more excited and inspired for the Millennium Reign, than ever.

            For those that don’t have the warmth of the consuming fire from above, their light at the end of the tunnel gets dimmer, and the tunnel gets longer with each passing day. People need to make a personal change soon or it will be too late. Spending a thousand years in a hell hole with a bunch of joosters,islamic terrorists,queers,baby killers, and hoodie thieves isn’t my idea of an afterlife. The never ending wailing and gnashing of teeth would get old real quick.

            • PWTW says:
              ” Knowing how the average american has been duped by TPTB/gov, there is little heart left to cling to any semblance of what we once thought of, as a Republic.

              If not for the faith and hope of our Heavenly Father’s Kingdom to Come, I wouldn’t want to live this worldly life any longer.”

              BJ says: AMEN!!!!!!

      5. Stay

        • That is why we are in the outer Islands. Hawaii is a police state, but we are so poor and have so few cops, they can’t possibly enforce all their laws. My idea of a crowd is Christmas time at the post office.

          • Yep, im just mindin my business puttering in the yard up here in Kula,
            Low profile, out of sight out of mind!


        • Especially church crowds.

          • Huddled within the frightened masses is not prudent. Grow some balls and courage and stop using a Big Hoax as your crutch for starters.

      6. The more I hear Ron Paul talk, the better I like him.

        • Funny, I used to worship him, but the more I know about him, (I’ve been following him for years) the more I think he’s as nuts as the looney left says he is. Living in an ivory tower fantasy.

          Let the snark begin………… I don’t give a damn.

          BTW all you thumbers – do you know that you are being tracked? css.rating-widget.com Disappointing to see this from Mac, but there it is. Did the NSA come and have a talk with him?

          • Old Coach, did you just leave your coffin and came back to life for another stupid comment?

            Go back and stay there.

            • And the more snark I get from S.V., the more I’m convinced I’m right.

          • this is correct about tracking. maybe mac did not sell out but its a system. And this directly ties to the article on the police state. Other places I used to comment now require a Google ID or Yahoo ID. A few months back Google started tieing your id to your phone. Yahoo a few weeks ago disabled my account and now requires a phone number to enable a new account. Long story short, the police state is ratcheting down on Americans. The article is correct.

          • So you went from worshiping a man to thinking he’s loony? Sounds like you jumped from one extreme to another, he’s just a man but he is the closest to a Washingto or Jefferson we will ever get a chance to vote for if that means anything.

          • Every thing you do on the internet tracks you. Everything you do on your phone gets tracked in one way or another….there is NO avoiding it in the times in which we live. There is no avoiding it in our society unless your a computer/electronics brainiac and then the amount of money and time that you would have to spend would make the time to use the web and phone for all the positive things you can use it for no longer worth it.
            Even without the internet and cell phones, they can track you, watch you listen to you, f*ck with you…there is no escaping it in the current conditions.

            Yes I have seen in the lower left hand of the screen all the trash that loads when you click on an article here, and it is way worse than it used to be and yes the thumbs are a part of it. Weren’t you one of the ones asking for the thumbs back? Either way you can always go read one of your books!

          • Worshipping any person was your first mistake…..that is always going to lead to a failure.

      7. With all the garbage going on I feel fortunate to be of advanced age. If this takes some time to unfold I’ll be pushing up daisies and not worry so much. If trouble comes looking for me, I hope to be effective somewhat to defend against it. God Bless, James

        • Sounds a little selfish.

        • @James

          Every event or rally or lecture I’ve been too, that has to do with the mess this country is in, has been filled with people of advanced age. Me, I am not of advanced age and am always disappointed my age bracket is not more involved. But my point is that I sat in a meeting one night and realized that it is your age that has everything to gain and nothing to lose. If the fight is going to start I would bet it is your generation that will start it… Why??? because you know what this country was, is, can and should be. You have the balls to do something about it and…not to sound bad, but of an advanced age what do you have to lose. I think God for our elders and there will be many generations willing to take up this fight… But I truly believe Sir it will be your generation that has the actual Balls to say “If it’s going to start By God let it start here”. Hope I’m making sense. Jesus be with us.

          • Good points, RH.

            Being of the Boomer II Generation(born from ”55 thru ”65; I am one of the advanced age group. Not many of my fellow boomers gonna worry about fighting a losing battle.

            Most of us know how the story ends cause we read “the” book. It is now at the point or stage, of the battle, whereby our Father does the fighting. We just do the cheering and sit back and watch the heatherns implode.

            The majority of the populations are the early to mid twenty somethings,(Generation Y, or Echo boomers/millenniums, and they are the ones that have more to lose and need to stand up and fight for their future or lay down and lick boots.

            Most will just lick boots because they had brain dead, worldly living,pc, parents; that just spoiled them and forgot about old fashioned work ethics, and moral obligations. Their mindset is predominately following suit of the generation that preceded them, which i call, the “ME” generation (born ”66 thru ”77 and referred to as the “Y” gen.)

            All generations have some blame to bear, but it is the brainwashed generations that have promoted, or simply followed, a liberal/progressive agenda since the eighties. The liberals and progressives (of both parties) took this country down a path that led to a slippery slope, which has no tow rope back up.

            Now we are seeing the effects of those selfish,greedy, liberals that have taken over the governments of the world (from local up to the Supreme Courts.

            We…let it happen….so we reap, what we have sown.

            • Correction…..”66 thru ”76 is the “X” Generation, not Y.

              • Actually, humankind is low-waste in effort. People do not “not care”. This is where most preppers are wrong. humankind does not prepare for an unknown future: it is unknown and humankind adapts. That is why humans win. The young adults are trying to make it before it blows. They might well suspect the police state will cripple itself or be irrelevant. E.g. if Russia decides to meet the Saudi’s on the playing field, then the police state in the USA might be irrelevant. If Brasil or some other state embraces freedom and individual responsibility and rights, then the young can just move there. It might be a waste of time to try to fix a system which is corrupt and inept from top to bottom. i just walked a nature trail in my city. At several spots you have to step through small creeks which drain less than 1 acre each. The federal government does not allow the city to put a 6ft bridge over it as the federal government has some absolutely stupid water law. Its not at all about solving a nature problem and everything about asserting power. Abuse. that is how abusers do it and that is how the federal government does it.

              • I wonder why they started the generational titles off with “X”


            • PWTW,
              I like you and most all your posts, so don’t take this wrong….BUT…..I find this particular post of yours interesting. I find it interesting because; I am part of the Y generation being born between 66 and 77 and I am not a ME guy. I try my best to be a friend and good son to God my Father and creator. I try my best to be a good husband and father. I try my best to learn and know truth with discernment. I hate what the state/govt has become and do my best to align myself first with the Holy Trinity and His word and thoughts on law/freedom/liberty in spirit first, then in the physical (the Constitution and BOR which was derived from Natural law or God’s law). The enemy to me is anything/one that is in direct opposition to His word or anyone who supports anything or person or group that is in direct opposition of His word or freedom/liberty. I do not, nor do I agree with the grouping and labeling thing i.e. communists, liberals, marxists, socialists, republicans, democrats or any other, because to me they all fall under the same theme…..EVIL. It does not and will not matter to Him how one arrived at evil and in opposition of Him, only that they are and/or did….and all those groups/labels are in fact evil….including all the titles for the righties, like neocon warmongerers (this is the one I am guilty of from time to time.

              My point I was trying to arrive at was that you mentioned specifically the X & Y generations, in a paragraph with bootlickers. But I have noticed all the statist bootlickers here, most are still in the political right/left paradigm and lean towards the republicans, and are older from what I can tell….at least mid thirties and up. But I sense from their posts that most are mid 50’s and up.

              I might of screwed this post all up because my mind goes so much faster than my fingers….but long story short is that I see the statist bootlickers here as being older then me and I was born in 71.

              • I see you are still reading this post of mine.

                Well, the grouping by generations wasn’t to demean or belittle anyone. It was a “generalization” by what i am seeing as the status quo by those particular age groups for that time in our history.

                There are many exceptions to the “me” attitude during any and all age groups.

                This particular post started with an attempt to make a valid point about the current, most populous age grouping in America, as being the early to mid twenty somethings.

                The poster I was responding to, had made the statement that us older/mature/retired generations had the most to lose and would probably be the first to make a stand.

                I was informing him that the Generation of the twenty-somethings had the most to lose and it should be them that were making the stand/changes, in our leadership/direction.

                Your generation was a “me/i want it all and now/fast paced/fastliving, group, for the most part. It is their offspring that are the most populous now, and their values or lack of them is directly related to their up-bringing.

                I have two siblings that were born in your generation.
                Although not raised with that ‘me’ attitude, they developed that mindset by the ways of the world during their teen years and carry that on even now. Their children are spoiled and don’t want anything to do with religion or worship. I hope they change before it is too late.

                Just my observations, BJ.

      8. From a violent society comes a violent police force
        I dont buy it that ALL the police are thugs
        But then again i have managed to walk the straight path and when i had interactions i pretty much deserved it

        • For me it was very small infractions, followed by a terrible retribution, way beyond what was called for or necessary. I no longer have any pity for the police. Sure, some are good, I just haven’t met any.

      9. “This once great U.S.A.” has fallen apart. No turning back now. The cow is out of the barn and the milk bucket has been kicked over. Only a complete and thorough reset bringing the original constitution back into effect, re-establishing Christianity as our moral compass and getting rid of anyone in this country that does not want to assimilate can bring back the peace and prosperity we once knew.

        That and renewing our vow to never meddle, interfere or attack any other country unless it attacks us first. That is where we went off the track in my opinion. Humble as it may be.


        • If it happened the way you state, I’d be willing and eager to get a collapse over with. My worry is that one it collapses, there is ample opportunity to set into place something worse. Think of all the civilizations that have collapsed throughout history. I try to be a glass half full kind of gal, but not one of them came back anything like what they were, if they came back at all.

          • cabingirl, Very intelligent statement. Indeed a great leader would be the prerequisite to prevent the chaos but sadly the system is so corrupt (thanks to the lobbyist, special interests but mainly the Zionist lobby) that such leader can’t surface without being killed.

            • There is a leader coming that can’t be killed, nor liberalized.

              Sadly, most follow the first leader that comes along soon, and that is precisely the problem…they/most have been following Lucifer for most of their lives.

        • I don’t think the constitution being back in effect and having a real constitutional republic again would be all that great to many here, including yourself BigB.
          I think you and the many others who think like you do here would feel out of place, as if you were missing something. And you and others who think like you do would only bring all those things back and ruin it once again.

          • BJ, Perhaps you are right. But it lasted a long time before it went bad, perhaps on a redo it would last longer?


            • If you really wanted a snap shot photo of what a redo would look like, just read this blog everyday. There are too many fractures and not enough truly awake with a true spirit of freedom and liberty in their hearts and minds.

              • BJ.

                Why don’t we do this. Why don’t we do that. Like you said, we are so fractured, we could not make a shit sandwich.

              • BJ – I read this Blog’s comments, to remind me why I bought so much ammo. Lots of sheep out there think they know what they are doing. It will be easy to exploit their weaknesses..

                I don’t get much out of the articles info that I already knew days earlier, from the original writers websites or news links. Which probably why it seems to be OK here to Cut and Paste other people babble BS and jokes filler, just cut and past and not much research for accuracy. It is a disservice passing on bad info.. And why I call out the BS spreaders that are not accurate. I should be paid daily to edit and post the correct info for accuracy. I don’t work for Thumb votes.

            • There will never be a reset back to the constitution. The people who will have the biggest influence have no vision of the future. Their vision is limited to 140 characters on a screen.
              They have no sense of freedom or information to fall back on. They don’t realize the wrongs that have been perpetrated against them or in their names. Why? Because history has been reduced to a bunch of dates and locations. The why’s of history can not be abbreviated down to a multiple choice question.
              The generation that will rewrite the constitution are stuck in the “me first” mentality.
              The fall of the Roman empire led to the dark ages, I’m afraid that is where this is going. And any semblance of liberty or freedom will be beaten out of minds and hearts of people.

          • @BJ

            True Freedom and Liberty would scare most so called “freedom lovers” to death so fast they’d be clamoring for the gov’t to come help them.

            Real Freedom is kinda like being 200 miles away from civilization on a mountain skinny dipping in a crystal clear stream watching the sun slowly set. Nothing could be more beautiful and perfect…But you also realize that if anything bad happens your F*%#ED!!!

            • Take me back to 1870!

            • @Richard Head,
              See, those you speak of, who bitch about the gimme dats are the ones who would be afraid…along with others. See the gimme dat bitchers, are gimme dats as well in a way. They support the state and gladly want and need the services of the govrnment and have no problem voting in new taxes that not only they have to pay but everyone else does as well. Because see they want all those services….including the police to look after them and protect them.

        • Here here! BigB

        • BigB : You are not going to have to get rid of any that don’t assimiate. When TSHTF, they will be the first to go.

          I have also read up above that there are not enough patriots left. Their are more than 3,000,000 preppers out here. Their are more than three million patriots out here.

          When the reset happens, the shit bags will go quickly. The unprepared will parish. Most of the entitlement welfare folks wil be gone in less than 30 days. I just hope that when it happens, it is not a half assed fix, and kick the can again. We need a total reset, and the USA made whole again.

          Keep prepping and learning. God Bless and good luck to us all.

      10. Far beyond ferguson,well yeh!First off,not going to be burning stores that have food/other good items in them.I have listened to Ron for a few decades way back when he was saying the housing market a rigged joke,he was proven right.At this point,the best you can do is stock up(more)and enjoy life,gain a few new skills ect.I am going to be working in Cali. for a month,just my luck will come crashing down while out there!

        • Warchild,
          be certain to have a GOOD plan so as not to get caught up in the Golden Horde if you end up having ‘lousy timing’. Bottlenecks will severely restrict your exit from any metros in the southland, followed by lots of desert. And I don’t just mean rush hour traffic. Always joked about heading to the nearest marina on the coast if the SHTF when I lived out there, but knew it was the best if not only chance. Loved living there, glad I got out.

          Enjoy, and good luck! Where ya heading?

          I dearly miss In-N-Out burgers, though. Double-double, animal style!

      11. in a country with @300 million guns, how long do you think the cops/feds would last? Look how many it took to semi control ferguson mo.

        • King,look how much money/manpower was spent to get Eric in Penn.In theory ,that guy had no military/other traing background except being a hunter and knowing the land.That said,if open season on civilians will go down much differently/more open/more violent all around.As many have said,firearms great but see what can be made with 100 bucks and a visit to a local big box hardware store.I really wonder as we seem to have no press what the guy Eric shot the staties for,just snapped/did those staties fuck with his family/friends,awfully silent on the whole case since he was captured.

          • @ Warchild Dammit!

            Here is a letter he wrote to his parents detailing his reasons for what he did. As a result of this letter, two charges of terrorism were recently added to his other charges…


            • Thanks JR,not sure I believe he wrote it but willing to look at anything.I will say the part about the country changing in a bad way,well,many feel that way,I really think there is more to the story but perhaps he just saw enuff/snapped and shot the first folks he saw in a uniform,seems hard to get and actually trust the truth in the stories these days.

          • @ Warchild : I heard his brothers old lady cheated with one of the troopers. Don’t know for sure. Not wasting my time to try to find out.

        • Are you freaking kidding? Most them gun owners are dumbed down sheep and will gladly go help the police….you been reading around here long?

        • Oh and most of those dumbed down gun owners, like many here, are still stuck in the right/left paradigm and would never even vote for a Ron Paul or the likes of him.

          • So I have to ask BJ, what is your idea of a government to replace the one we have? In what form? Would you adopt ideas and principles of other countries or have in mind a model of who would be in charge and how it would work? Just curious.


            • I find that to be kind of a silly question…..Have you not been around long or just haven’t read many of my posts or those whom I post with? To me it is a no brainer.

              Answer: the one we were supposed to have all along but have not had since 1871. And yes there obviously needs to be some tweaking and more specifics in wording to make sure even the dumbest most brain dead son of a bitch could understand that the people rule and the limits set on the government. And that we have natural law, the govt doesn’t take care of us, rule over us and LAW us to death. A part of me would want more God in it, but you cannot govern mans morals through law. We already have God’s law and His free choice. I could go one……

              Back to The Harbinger on audible 🙂

              • I apologize if I offended you. I have a limited education and have only been coming to this site for awhile so am not familiar with all but a few of you. It appears that you are one of the leaders here so I will just watch and learn. Thanks,


                • BJ is one of the loudmouths. I wouldn’t say that makes him a leader. Just a loudmouth troll.

                  • Now that is Funny coming from Old Coach. Did your Viagra kick in?? lol Time to clean that black kettle out, eh coach.

                  • I would follow BJ over the “pied piper coach” any day.

                    Coach is an ostrich…….

                  • 1. My question to BigB in the first two lines of my post above to him was rhetorical, I know the answer and his reply was attempting to be a funny smart ass.

                    2. I am no leader nor would I want to be. I lay awake sometimes as it is being a husband and father.

                    3. If by “loudmouth” you mean I get riled up & vocal about my beliefs, especially the ones referring to the evil oppressors in this country, then I deserve that title from time to time.

                    4. Troll? I have been here for 4 years and base my posts on historical facts of true law, the Constitution and the BOR. You argue in favor of oppression, an unconstitutional unionized fraternal organization of police and an empirical view of the world. You are of the ilk who have and continue to hijack this country and change the definitions of words.

                    Who’s the troll??

                    Funny how the evil political type always lie and accuse others of what they themselves are guilty of.

        • @King

          But guns wont just get up and fire themselves, you gotta have a lot of strong people willing to stand behing the trigger for our God-given rights. And make no mistake when the shootin starts you can guarantee the media will go full bore on making those who do stand look like murdering conspiracy theorist sex offenders who hate black people, and the majority of those who watch the new will believe them.

          Controlling the flow of information is their strongest weapon.

        • What needs to happen here in America is to convince the 300 Million people out here to just go take it. You see a Mansion on the Hill go take it. That is whats been happening to the masses for decades. The few top percent take from us what ever they want. With bogus laws, bogus forfeiture laws, taxes, manipulated inflation by reducing the dollars value, debt slaves, exporting our jobs, dumbed down education. Stop paying them and keep your profits for yourself. There would be no way for the Government or any private entity to protect their assets from the 300 Million in a mass take over. What I am saying here is on the count of 3 all out anarchy and protest. You like that guys limo go take it. You want to live in a State Park them go live there for free. You like your house stop paying your mortgage. Screw them all. The few top percent will run in horror and abandon everything they own or can carry on their backs. You like that Yacht, Go take it. You now own what you can take and defend.. That’s one way to take out country back, Just Go take it!!

          • Pirates Code

            “Take Everything, Give Nothing Back”.


      12. I worked on Ron’s campaign and enjoyed every second of it when he was running. I still love the man knowing he couldn’t survive with the current AIPAC owned two headed one body system but regardless he does spread the truth. I wish his son would be like him.

        However no matter what Ron or any other true patriot says: WE ARE F&^%*ED without a complete reset and the chaos that comes with it.

        • Yea the entitlement gimmedats need to learn the well figure it out and do what it takes routine.
          The ones who wont work and do drugs are the ones who are causing the current police situation, if these elements of society were polite, courteous and respectful rather than deceitful, theiving and lazy thugs things would be much better all the way around.

        • Stolz,I to liked Rons ideas of how this country should be,starting with ending personal/corporate welfare that includes the war on drugs/the mic/the fed reserve,hell,the list is endless.As things get worse do feel Ron will suddenly have a “accident” unfortunetly.

          • Warchild, his personal safety was a major concern for almost everyone working on his campaign indeed. I never forgot the night the so called Zionist supported Republicans had their convention in Tampa FL and they actually called the SWAT to prevent us from entering their convention center.

            Shame of all of these Zionist Military Industrial Complex PIGS who again sending their fake agent named Romney, Bush to replace the current POS that were selected 7 years ago by the same AIPAC pigs.

            I am sorry for AMERICA. I really am sorry for our beloved country to be ruined by those with dual citizens knowing that we have many good hearted, honest, God fearing people who’s names are being trashed worldwide by committing atrocities under their name and hiding the true nature of the criminals named AIPAC.

            • Stolz. Yep I am in the same area, and watched that GOP RNC Scam go down. So they moved the Ron Paul to the FL Fair Grounds. I wanted to go over there, in solidarity bit the Nazi’s were out there writing down license plate numbers. And you know how people with Ron Paul bumper stickers have been treated. Ron Paul’s biggest statement nailed it. “End the Fed” beside “Audit the Fed.” JF Kennedy was killed over the same policy June 4th 1963 EO-11110

              • Funny, WWTI, you call them Nazi’s. Were the people who we call communists, responsible for more killing in the world, Nazi’s?

                You know who was behind the Bolshevik’s bloodlust killings in Russia, China, Cuba, Vietnam, and on and on.

                A new generaton of Bolshevik’s have co-opted Americas’s government and our government institutions, they own the non-federal reserve, the IMF, the BIS, our colleges, etc.

                Are you suggesting they are Nazi’s, WWTI? Please name some of those Nazi’s. I can certainly name some of the Bolsheviks, and so can you.

                Every time you claim modern day Nazi’s are our problem you help the real culprits cover their tracks.

                Our police in America are being scripted to follow how the Bolsheviks gained control of Russia and they were not Nazis.

                • So he REAL question is WHEN are you going to actually DO something other than bitch about it every day?

                • Awesome post ‘Granny’ ..and accurate in every detail!!!

      13. 1. More than 500 American citizens have died after being tased, a device considered “non-lethal.”
        2. In 36% of US SWAT raids, no contraband of any kind is found after the officers risk everyone’s life and engage in reckless actions that cost lives.
        3. The only nation ever to jail more prisoners than the United States was Germany, under the Nazis.

        • wow. Wish I could triple thumb that one. Scary stats.

      14. We are awakening to the consequences of these historic events:

        1. In the last paragraph of his Nobel Lecture on 12 DEC 1922, Aston PROMISED that mankind was now in command of powers beyond the dreams of scientific fiction and WARNED that energy might be uncontrollable and convert Earth into a star.

        2. Unreported CHAOS and FEAR of nuclear annihilation convinced world leaders to form the UN and take totalitarian control of the world after:
        _ a.) Japan exploded an atomic bomb shortly after we bombed Nagasaki in AUG 1945
        _ b.) Stalin’s troops captured Japan’s atomic bomb plant at Konan, Korea in AUG 1945 &
        _ c.) Shot down and held the crew of an American B29 bomber for negotiations in AUG-SEPT 1945
        _ d.) Negotiations that ended in formation of the United Nations on 24 OCT 1945, and
        _ e.) A decision to forbid public knowledge of nuclear energy worldwide after 1946:


      15. The pictures coming out of France (Paris) with armed military on the street corners; makes one visualize home town U. S. A. in the very near future. Soon everyone; and the sad thing is this there is absolutely nothing we can do to stop it, because we have waited too long to acted. Prepare and live your life as best as you can now, for the day approaches.

        • @anonb4

          If we get there and we need military walking our streets armed, Then I also need to be walking the street armed. We need to push harder on the open carry debate. Don’t militarize the police…militarize the public. If soldiers need to walk the streets with their AR’s then so do I!!!

          • Take that a step further than just open carry. What needs to happen is that whatever the cops and military have, the civilians should have AT LEAST the same or greater. If the governments firepower is superior, than the 2nd amendment is null and void. Absolutley meaningless!

            We, the people were meant to be the sheep dogs!
            Specificcally all able bodied men from 17-45.

      16. Many will call me stupid, but I don’t understand a couple of things. So many call Obama, a muslim, and I would have to agree. He sure as hell seems to respond to things as if he were one. And yet many say the Jewish bankers run the country. Muslims and Jews hate each other. If the Jewish bankers are in control of everything how did a muslim get into the highest office in the land. If jewish bankers are calling all the shots, why are we not doing more to stop isis? and why do we send $$ to pakistan? why did Obama snob Big Ben when he comes to town. There are so many things that to me do not add up. Some say “they” whoever the hell “they” are, are setting up muslims by false flag attacks, like in France, to tuen the masses against muslims when actually they are really the ones doing all the damage. WTF!!!!

        • Didn’t you know? The Muslims have a lot of sheep, just like here in the USA. As for the Jews, which I have nothing against, well, they have a lot of sheep as well. How else could warmongers and fearmongers like Netenyahu keep getting elected? Same for Bush, Obama, Pelosi, Reed, Fienstein, etc.

          Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramírez, known as the rat…. “If God didn’t want them sheared, he would not have made them sheep.

            • Stan:

              Wonder how many on this SHTF blog will overlook this link; or at least convince themselves that it “can’t” be true.

              One thing about it, the filth/stench of the people involved is overwhelming.

              • One thing about the reset.
                You don’t have to wait for the justice system to get justice.

        • T-Town…here is one example as one of many tribal monsters behind the next Republican presidential select (note: I said selection and NOT election):


          I hope you can sleep tonight after seeing the face of the evil. lol

          • Stolz:

            Most all republican candidates were groveling on their knees last election asking for this old war mongering bastards support…..

        • T-Town:

          I have read a lot of your posts; you seem to be a very educated person.

          If you do not think jewish bankers run the country and the WORLD you are only fooling yourself. Just how long would it take an educated man like yourself to find the makeup of the families who own the private nonfederal reserve. You then might study the City of London and the Rothschilds to see who owns the Bank of International Settlements and the International Monetary Fund.

          If you do not know that Obama is just AIPAC’s puppet fronting for their agenda, then I think perhaps you are living on Mars.

          • POG…You hit the nail on the head, once again.

            Simply put, and to sort of answer T-town’s questions; it goes like this……

            The joosters are calling the shots from their ivory towers that are invisible to most everday people.

            There is “one” thing that they love, more than they hate, the mooslims and Holy roman Catholics; and that is called money/gold/power/control.

            They use and manipulate the likes of Odrama,clintons, and other politicians to get their desired results.
            The Bush family is part of the jooster/germanic/bolshevick clan from the past. Their cloak of deception is thick and dark to those that have not researched and understood their ties and roots.

            The Rothchilds are another family with those same ties. There are other families that are not as well known but their ties to evil runs just as deep.

            What we are seeing with ISIS/Iran/Muslim Brotherhood, has been planned and instigated with stolen USSAG citizens’ dollars/future.

            What we have seen as the EU/Revived Holy Roman Empire, has also been planned and instigated with Western Europe’s citizens’ euros and wealth.

            The one’s that have and are capitalizing on this planned NWO governmental structure change is the joosters/banksters at the top of the financial food chain.

            Getting the picture now..T-town.

            It will all culminate into WW3 and the collapse of the middleclass of peoples throughout America and Europe, and cause the world to see Muslims and Catholic Christianity,(and to some degree, secular Russia and the Asian nations) to be seen as the culprits, while the fakester joos sit back and rake in the profits of financing yet another war.

            As a third of the worlds population(mostly middle eastern) is killed off thru this war, the whole dynamics of society changes for their/jooster/NWO benefits.

            Remember this, their goal since many centuries ago, has been to keep their “families” thru the generations, in positions of control, while making others, seemingly, be the problems of societies.

            Their minds have been programmed to this kind of thinking since the bloodlines began existing.
            Each generation has done their part to further their agenda of controlling and ruling the world with their families. They don’t answer to a Loving and forgiving God.

            But… The True God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob, is still on the Throne and will have the last laugh. It will not unfold as they/joosters think it will, but will unfold as foretold.

            • BRAVO..Passin’….BRAVO!!!!!!!

            • PWTW:

              Tanks for taking the time to spell out the whole puzzle for T-Town.

              Time and again the truth has been posted here at SHTF, yet like ostriches, people choose to bury their heads and leave their butts skyward to only be screwed again and again.

              Trusty souls, us Americans are. Perhaps trusty, dumbed down souls would be a better description. Too painful to admit being taken in by that politician you thought was going to do right by the Republic you so love, or the teacher/preacher that is emptying your pockets, asking you to support “those who say they are Jews, but are the synagogue of satan” (Jesus’ words, not mine). He has told you over and over who the enemies of Christianity are, and yet most preachers teach “they are the chosen”. Their 501C3 tax evasion has made liars out of them; and our “itchy ears” and wanting to believe in SOMETHING have propogated their scam and their unglodly trappings. The Lord says “Come out of her, my people”.

              Albert Pike (look his spiel up) promised three world wars and also told why they would come about. Read his statements and ask yourself if the two already past did not fit his comments exactly, and then read his statements on the why/who/what was being planned for WW3. Pikes blueprint or WW3 is being carried out exactly as predicted.

              Our internet will soon be compromised so the truth will not be so available sometime in the near future. Arm yourself with the truth while you still can.

              Revelation is a blueprint of how the end time goes, and I, like Hunter and PWTW and others here know HE is the only rescue that is coming to the USA, the land of the people who are asleep to the fact of who TRUE Israel really is. But there is an awakening coming, it is promised. We need to be on our knees asking for HIS support to bring an end to satans hold on this Godgiven gift, America.

              We will all be on our knees before it is finished, every knee will bow.

              • Thanks, Granny and Hunter.

                If folks want truth, as much as it may hurt some, they have sure heard it from the three of us.

                We have done the work, and put forth the effort to share many, many, truths here at shtfplan.

                If a person wants to understand what and why, the collapse is coming, we can overload their donkey in no time flat.

                All the economic gurus, and financial experts, can give clues about this and that, but the bottom line facts are what counts when it all starts coming down.
                Where have you put your investments? Hopefully not in financial investments only.

                We know the season for these events, but dare not count on a particular day,week, or month; maybe even the year will escape us. However; we won’t get caught with our prepping britches down.

                i remember a verse in a song that goes like this…

                “if you wanna hear God laugh, just tell him your plans”.

                We prep for the worse case scenario as best we can, and sometimes we just get thrown a curve ball that can’t be foreseen. Sometimes we swing wildly for the fences and receive divine intervention, so we hit it out of the park with God’s help. prep and pray, just not muzzy style.

                • I didn’t mean to leave out many others that know and share truth here.
                  The list is long. slingshot you are one of the first that comes to mind.

              • Granny…that was your “Magnum Opus”, dear!!!



                Key words: ..True Israel -and every knee will bow-

          • Well, the BIG question is when are you going to DO something about it other than bitch constantly?

            • You have some good ideas on what to do about it,Hillbilly?

              • NO pissed off, but then again I’m not cackling and bitching about it every day like you, am I?

            • FMH.

              Bitching. The National Pass Time.

      17. I don’t really know. Many here say that we need the big reset. They are probably correct. There’ll most likely be war with Russia and China as well. The prospects of the future don’t sound that good to me. If it goes that way, there’ll be too many starving, too many destitute, and too many just out to grab all they can. Add to that the police brotherhood, also out to grab all they can. The elite will be in our taxpayer funded DUMBS, along with the politicians. I just hope I survive long enough to see heads of Central Bankers and Globalists mounted on posts (throw in a bunch of paid for politicians as well). They all have to come up for air sometime.

      18. It occurred to me today that we may be better off selling out and moving to Russia. In the long run I wonder if we will be better off over there.

        • Brome, or move to Alaska and try to see Russia from there.

          • Alaska would be nice… but what tough winters!

            • Brome, I agree about the winters but my first moose hunt over there was something that I’ll remember as long as I live. It is just majestic beyond any norm.

              If I could only convince my wife to live a rustic cabin with -30-50 temp and Grizzlies outside of the door. lol

        • Only Cowards Cut and Run. America is still worth fighting for. When they try to take it, make them work for it at every turn. Just imagine back when the British finally gave up and surrendered, and the Victory was finally in the Grip of the Patriots. That’s the feeling, I am working for. Victory for US, and for them- Complete Unconditional Surrender. Let them cut and run…

          • Yeah, that’s EXACTLY what YOU do when somebody replies to a comment you make that you DON’T want to answer chicken shit.

      19. Moral decadence always precedes a collapse.

        We have not only become decadent, we worship it and punish those that don’t.

        The results are quite predictable.

      20. Gentlemen… with all due respect, it’s time to forget about the U.S. Constitution. That ship has sailed and isn’t coming back. When a panel of judges will tell you that it means the opposite of what it says it really couldn’t be any less important than toilet paper.

        In my opinion the original constitution.. in which women did NOT have the right to vote would be a good start if any form of Western Civ is to survive. Unfortunately women, when given power, destroy the family unit. That is why Muslims are reproducing and Western societies are crumbling.

        • Are you really that stupid or do you just have an incredibly small penis you have bmp clue how to use?

          • I believe history is on my side.

            • If you want to bring history into your argument about women, then you must go back to biblical times and see what and how much women contributed to the benefit of Dod and mankind.

              Many women had the guts to do what men would not do. There were and are many,many great women in history.
              Their contributions are unlimited and can’t be numbered.
              There are many men that needed a strong woman to keep them in line, or they would have self destructed.

              Then came along the likes of Jezebel. Many young women of today are just empty shells of humans and have filled those inner voids with the spirits of Jezebel. But for every girl/woman that carries the spirit of Jezebel there is a compassionate. intelligent, and God revereing woman to consider.

              Women have never been the problem. The world and evil is the problem.

        • you were not popular in high school either were you Brome?

          • My beliefs are not based on personal interaction but rather observation of societies through time.

            • Brome,
              I find it odd you defend yourself and say your chauvinist attitude isn’t based on personal experience but rather a study of human civilization. You are quite simply intimidated by women.

            • Isaiah 3:12

              Women ruling was and is seen as a curse, not a blessing. Certainly, God may raise up particular women at particular times to be leaders in different spheres. Deborah (Judges 4-5) and Esther are examples of this. But this entirely different than a society where, in general, women rule over them. Such a society is cursed, not blessed. Look at the feminist movement started way back in the early half of the 1900’s

        • Not giving woman the vote is the chicken way out if women have something to say believe me they will say it anyway, guess your not married huh.

      21. Ron Pauls words are supported by my recent apples in a barrel experiments on Jekyll Island, GA.

        First it stinks. More apples rot. It stinks more. More and more apples rot. Before long previously good apples are trying to get out but they rot. We ended up with 42 55 gallon barrels of rotten apples. None survived.

        But! Apple cider is more fun than rotten apple sauce!

      22. I think it was Thomas Jefferson who said” those who would trade liberty for security are guaranteed to have neither

      23. Nineteen Eighty Four

        … He paused, and for a moment assumed again his air of a schoolmaster questioning a promising pupil: ‘How does one man assert his power over another, Winston?’

        Winston thought. ‘By making him suffer,’ he said.

        ‘Exactly. By making him suffer. Obedience is not enough. Unless he is suffering, how can you be sure that he is obeying your will and not his own? Power is in inflicting pain and humiliation. Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing. Do you begin to see, then, what kind of world we are creating? It is the exact opposite of the stupid hedonistic Utopias that the old reformers imagined. A world of fear and treachery and torment, a world of trampling and being trampled upon, a world which will grow not less but MORE merciless as it refines itself. Progress in our world will be progress towards more pain. The old civilizations claimed that they were founded on love or justice. Ours is founded upon hatred. In our world there will be no emotions except fear, rage, triumph, and self-abasement. Everything else we shall destroy — everything. Already we are breaking down the habits of thought which have survived from before the Revolution. We have cut the links between child and parent, and between man and man, and between man and woman. No one dares trust a wife or a child or a friend any longer. But in the future there will be no wives and no friends. Children will be taken from their mothers at birth, as one takes eggs from a hen. The sex instinct will be eradicated. Procreation will be an annual formality like the renewal of a ration card. We shall abolish the orgasm. Our neurologists are at work upon it now. There will be no loyalty, except loyalty towards the Party. There will be no love, except the love of Big Brother. There will be no laughter, except the laugh of triumph over a defeated enemy. There will be no art, no literature, no science. When we are omnipotent we shall have no more need of science. There will be no distinction between beauty and ugliness. There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be destroyed. But always — do not forget this, Winston — always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always, at every moment, there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face — for ever.

        He paused as though he expected Winston to speak. Winston had tried to shrink back into the surface of the bed again. He could not say anything. His heart seemed to be frozen. O’Brien went on:

        ‘And remember that it is for ever. The face will always be there to be stamped upon. The heretic, the enemy of society, will always be there, so that he can be defeated and humiliated over again. Everything that you have undergone since you have been in our hands — all that will continue, and worse. The espionage, the betrayals, the arrests, the tortures, the executions, the disappearances will never cease. It will be a world of terror as much as a world of triumph. The more the Party is powerful, the less it will be tolerant: the weaker the opposition, the tighter the despotism. Goldstein and his heresies will live for ever. Every day, at every moment, they will be defeated, discredited, ridiculed, spat upon and yet they will always survive. This drama that I have played out with you during seven years will be played out over and over again generation after generation, always in subtler forms. Always we shall have the heretic here at our mercy, screaming with pain, broken up, contemptible — and in the end utterly penitent, saved from himself, crawling to our feet of his own accord. That is the world that we are preparing, Winston. A world of victory after victory, triumph after triumph after triumph: an endless pressing, pressing, pressing upon the nerve of power. You are beginning, I can see, to realize what that world will be like. But in the end you will do more than understand it. You will accept it, welcome it, become part of it.’ …

        h ttps://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/o/orwell/george/o79n/chapter3.3.html

      24. The key word is ‘may”

        The republic is already gone”

        a forgone conclusion

        prepare accordingly


        • It’s a matter of mind, a loose new construct that works…
          Could be in order, my suggestion…

          How do we divide the fruits of our labor?

          What kind of community and government would serve us now?


          Beyond left and right might be smart.

          We must right which is wrong.

          Our history, lies, etc.

          Then we deal with it.

        • would be a bit more concerned over the ongoing government extraction of wealth than police brutality


      25. What republic that’s a joke . I’ve said this before we are all the same wether you work hard and spend your life at work or sit on your couch and smoke dope and do nothing at all we all have a place to live food to eat and medical coverage what incentive is there to work when your employers cry poverty and don’t want to provide for their employees they are as bad as deadbeat parents. The gov wants us all dependent on them. Obama even told people who built businesses that they didn’t build that. The administration thinks we are all children and we need their guidance. Even the media does . they tell us to bundle up on cold days like they are our parents. the school talks to my wife like she is stupid and and she don’t know how to take care of the kid. Look at what I’m saying and tell me I’m wrong. Everybody just goes along with this shit I don’t I call it out I don’t care if the Nannys are offended. If they make us look like children it makes them look important and nessasary . We the people are not responsible enough to own firearms this is what they really think. And this is why they attack our rights . They are like a very controlling parent and want the power to make our desisions for us but they always avoid taking responsibility when shit goes wrong . Anyone that try’s to tell you what’s right for you and your family is a control freak and they are dangerous to your freedom

      26. Just bought a HK VP9, had to use a permit to get it…more paper trail for The Man to follow. Oh, well.
        Potable water
        Sit it out till the smoke clears.
        God bless the Republic (and the seer/sage Ron Paul).

        • Don’t forget to take it on a canoe trip. Best way to lose that paper trail. Damn I hate it when my canoe overturns every time I buy a new gun.

          • I keep seeing that canoe/kayak accident thing and frankly,feeling a bit better everytime.I thought for a long time I was the only stupid one who had such accidents!

          • @nobama

            I enjoy all the jokes about funny ways we can “lose” our guns. But in all seriousness guys if it gets to the point where your having to hide what you legally own from the gov’t, then it is time to go ahead and show them all your gun’s and how big their muzzle flashes are. If not then it may already be too late. I’m really watching and waiting on this Connecticut thing too, innocent people could lose their lives.

            • Richard head. The CT Governor nor LEO’s have the Balls to try and enforce their Illegal Anti-gun laws. Just start shooting at them when they try to come take them. Pretty hard to take them, when hot lead and copper jackets are flying out of them, and at them. You better have a good neighborhood agreement. If they come to your door, the neighbors across the street better be shooting at them too.and Vice Versa…. Stand together.

      27. Dr.Paul has been spot on for years. As long as we continue on with the welfare state and this sociaty or entitlement, we will never turn this around. And that will turn to exactly what our very Progressive government has been steering us towards for decades. When the money runs out and the gimmes figure out that their life of Money for nothin is over, that is when all hell is going to break out. It will make Ferguson look like a Sunday picinic. Brothers and Sisters, listen to Dr. Paul and prepare. Get all of your ducks in a row, and your chickens and gardens and ammo etc. etc. Keep up the good fight and stay low. God be with you. Semper Fi!!

      28. FINALLY

        HIT RESET

      29. Kind of all over the map and hard to pick where to start. What is this stolen wealth crap? Do we give La Raza the southwest or something? Michael Brown was a criminal who screwed up and lost. Too much. Glad I did not support Ron Paul.

      30. A lot of the upheaval social upheaval in this country can be laid at LBJ’s door with his totally misguided Great Society legislation. Laid the architecture for today’s FSA (Free Shit Army).

        • Well intentioned but misguided. So much opportunity has been wasted by the very people who these programs were intended to help. Programs to help have evolved to demands for payment. If we don’t cooperate…out come the pics of the slave ships. War cries of “racist cracka MF honkey…”. The gov cows down to these tactics to keep the peace when instead they should have denied payments to the freeloaders until they come to their senses. That will happen soon enough. Now we have 20MM illegal aliens trying to get in on the action. There’s only so many working class in this country paying taxes. We’re getting tired of supporting the welfare class.

          It seem so civil in here tonight. Scary

          • Rednek:

            Never was LBJ’s “Great Society” well intentioned.

            It was well conceived and is working out exactly as planned. The demise of the Republic is knocking at our door due to that legislation along with a long list of others.

            • POG
              Your point of view has merit. Look at the class action law suit. Started out as a way for groups to pool assets and grievances against a corporation. Now it’s devolved to the fill in the blank lawsuits. Sad state of affairs. I really believe so much of the feel good social reforms of the sixties and seventies have been ran over by people with no moral or ethical compass. The first thing they look at is how to take advantage of them and profit from them. No consideration of where their “ill gotten gains” come from or who has to pay. Yep, sad.

      31. scout, If he was president of the corporation known as USA would it be so muuuuch better. No! it wouldn’t, the CEO has to take orders from the corporate bond/share holders. You know who “they” are. Remember the hand shake and other vids/news involving Ronnie’s connections/controllers?

        If he was a threat to the NWO, he would have had an unfortunate car accident due to brake failure or suicide by swallowing a pound of narcotics while shooting himself in the back of the head twice and jumping over the 13 floor 8′ balcony rail.

        Is it to late for a leader that will lead these united states (countries)back to the original intent of freedom, liberty and justice unified in the original articles of confederation as individual peoples on the land(pre constitution).
        It will take a “group” of like minded. which will not happen any time soon and when it does will it be too little, too late…..?

        Even here people have differences over round blue pills and square blue pills.

        Where’s all this leading too? Does anyone really know? IS IT TO LATE???????

      32. Regretfully, Ron Paul is right.

        At the end of WWII, frightened world leaders agreed to take totalitarian control of planet Earth “to save themselves and the world from nuclear annihilation.”

        They United Nations on 24 OCT 1945 and foolishly agreed to forbid public knowledge of the energy that destroyed Hiroshima and Nagasaki, unaware that the same source of energy:

        1. Made our chemical elements
        2. Birthed the Solar System five billion years (5 Ga) ago
        3. Sustained the origin and evolution of life on Earth after 3.5 Ga ago
        4. Still maintains control of every atom, life and world in the Solar System today . . .

        in a volume of space that has expanded to be greater than the combined volumes of 10.000,000,000,000,000,000 Earth’s!

        Here is information that was hidden from the public after the end of WWII:


        • These frightened world leaders have no real power, only “Delusions of Grandeur !”

          Every atom. life and world in the Solar System is controlled by powerful but invisible force fields – presumably electromagnetic waves (EMW) – from the Sun’s pulsar core.

          While it is frightening to watch our once great nation crumble, I am personally confident we will rise again because we were endowed by our Creator with inalienable rights to self-governance.

      33. Vtfree-2…………

        Where’s all this leading too? Does anyone really know? IS IT TO LATE??????? –(unquote)–


        Well, if history is an accurate guide, I’d say the Empire of the USA, is on the ‘down-hill leg’ of disintegration & our ultimate destiny ..is to follow the somewhat recent path, blazed in the ‘Balkan crisis’…back in the early/mid ’90’s..

        We’re gonna eventually break-up into 4-5-6 different countries…if we’re not “nuked” into oblivion, beforehand!

        ..there’s simply too many competing ideologies/belief systems & social-economic pressures to maintain the so called ‘melting-pot’ of Amerika!

        ..when in truth nowadays, we’re more akin to a ‘rotting salad-bowl’ admixture…of GOD knows what?!?!?!?


        The lifetime of empires on Terra-firma is roughly on average…a little over 200yrs.

        ..thus we’re running on borrowed time!!!

        ..or running on ‘EMPTY’..!!!

        ..which ever you prefer, of course.

        • Hunter.

          ..there’s simply too many competing ideologies/belief systems & social-economic pressures to maintain the so called ‘melting-pot’ of Amerika!

          ..when in truth nowadays, we’re more akin to a ‘rotting salad-bowl’ admixture…of GOD knows what?!?!?!?
          You are right, Hunter. That is where the rub that bothers me. They have no anchor beliefs and think America is where you can do anything you want. You can if you believe in the same values and morals.

          As for our politicians, no more than crooked used car salesmen.

          • Amen ..Slingshot!!!

            ..methinks, only GOD almighty is capable of ‘straightening/sorting’ this mess out!

      34. Good way of explaining, and good article to get data regarding my presentaton subject,
        which i am going to deliver in academy.

      35. protect your personal treasures.

        deny the disease a host to feed on.

        extreme measures are coming, sometimes in order to save a diseased patient(host) you have to cut-n-burn off a few appendages.

        zog amerika already is a failed state.

        it’s course to self-destruction is set.

        you will survive only by disconnecting and going ghost.

        anyone still connected to the zog system will be bled dry by the forever greedy starving dying zog amerikan fiat dollar debt based banking system.

        “The last act of any NARCISSISTIC CORRUPT ROGUE REGICIDAL government is to loot the treasury,
        don’t be it’s treasury any longer – protect yourselves – DISCONNECT!”

      36. Look, the recognition process, the who dunnit process doesn’t matter at this point in time. You either need to stop participating in the system or have an all out revolt.

        Now only 1% of the population understands the issue. And, out that 1%, only about 1% can actually choose to not participate in the economic system.

        As for all out revolt. Again, only 1% have an understanding. Before you can begin revolt, generations have to be educated. Then, and only then, might you have an effective revolt.

        I lament to say that no one on this board, nor your children, nor your children’s children will ever address this issue head on. The roman empire lasted for over 400 years. 300 years into it, things started to go bad. I figure the same thing will hold true in our American civilization.

        Prepare for natural disasters, prepare for man made disasters. Prepare for collapses in the system. Prepare for repairs to the system. Educate your children. Make sure they educate their children. That’s all you can do. It’s not our final battle. There will be no glory, no victory, and no accolade for our and the next few generations.

        Sorry if it sounds defeatist, but facts are facts.

        • Cellar

          Spot on !


        • Cellar Spider…. Very Nice.

      37. Over time here at SHTF we have engaged many topics. One that rarely comes to conversation is leadership. I have been told that you can either lead, follow or get the hell out of the way. With trying times ahead we should keep that ditty in mind.
        So would you make a good leader? What qualities would you want in a leader if you were to join his group? How many go through life wanting the chance to lead men and never achieve it, while others have it thrust upon them.

        • Sorry, but that is at the root, at least a large majority of THE problems of the world. Mankind inherently wants to lead adn have power. Some man always wants to take charge to be the leader. Usually some type A (like myself) personality control freak. This is why half of me wants no part of any group. God leads me and I lead my family, no one else and I will be damned if a man will lead me, outside of me asking for guidance/help/teaching. Now don’t get me wrong, I have desires like you wouldn’t believe for man friends and sages to teach and instruct me, which I do not have. But I won’t be led in an unsolicited way, if that makes sense.

      38. The U.S. has more jails than colleges.


        “There were 2.3 million prisoners in the U.S. as of the 2010 Census. It’s often been remarked that our national incarceration rate of 707 adults per every 100,000 residents is the highest in the world, by a huge margin.”

        this bears repeating

        ” highest in the world,by a HUGE margin”

        • I wonder what percentage of those “criminals” in prison actually broke a true constitutional law and/or committed violent crimes? And how many broke other color of law codes?

        • danke fuer die Empfohlung, sind Sie deutsch?

          • empfehlung*

        • hervorragende Lese danke.

          • Bitte! kein Problem.
            ja, ich bin deutsch und lebe in Deutschland.

      39. The problem is we have too many “leaders” all leading us to the cliff.
        If we actually had representatives we might get somewhere. Instead we have salesmen.
        When was the last time any law was passed to benefit the people and not a corporation?
        I can’t think of any. Can anyone think of one?

      40. this country from the beginning was called the great experiment. look at the history of immigration and it is
        filled with hatred and violence. so why do we think that it is not the norm. this society just does it in a way that does not destroy the infrastructure, so commerce and progress can keep going. however bad the radical islam problem gets, as soon as they start going after our infrastructure, they will be dealt with severely and all of a sudden the government will signal in some passive manner
        that real americans can take them out.

      41. Hello. First time.

      42. I want to give all Americans a great big hug.

        • Welcome Mecca, Glad to have you here.

      43. Well hello Mecca,wondering what brought you to the site and were you looking for particular information on a subject in regards to prepping for issues whether man made or natural,anyhow,welcome to the site and hope you have good ?’s or perhaps answers to others ?’s.

      44. Have preps already. Like to hear others opinions about everything on survival etc.

        • I personally am working on gaining a good foundation in basic med skills to help others,hope to take a WEMT course in late spring if the world holds together that long!I am online doing some basic anatomy/physiology study at the moment to get some better understanding of how the body works and thus hopefully in future be better prepared to help others with medical issues.I will say like many funds are tight but should be able to afford the course when it comes up.

          • WD.

            Go for the Medical Training. Wait till you get into the drug side like aspirin, antihistamines, hydrocortisone, anti heartburn/gas and all the rest of those discomfort relieving drugs and creams. Then to disinfecting and antibiotics and homeopathic uses. Think for a use of a regular Tea and Cayenne pepper.

            If you do not know completely how the stuff works don’t use it. Remember, Do No Harm.

      45. Our Republic will only be No More if we all decide to allow it..I for one , dont play this game .. My Republic never left..its just got too many assholes in power that need to go , so the job is defined ..time to stop pussy footing around the reality

        in other news
        5 warning signs the S is about to Hit
        1. Price of Oil is Dropping significantly
        2 Many large stores are closing due to financial reasons
        3. Household Income is dropping like a ton of lead
        4. Subprime lending is making a comeback
        5. The Bond market is booming

        ready for your economic crash?.. probably wont have long to wait

      46. Unfortunately Ron Paul has failed to identify our exploding 3rd world population as a central component in the race to a police state. A multicultural country can only be held together with force and coercion. The loss of security and social cohesiveness stems directly from globalism and this multiculturalism and “diversity”. Violent and impulsive 3rd world barbarians can not produce or sustain Western first world civilization.

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