Scientist Claims Human Microchip Implants Will Become “Not Optional”

by | Apr 24, 2014 | Headline News | 788 comments


And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, and he provides that no one will be able to buy or to sell, except the one who has the mark, either the name of the beast or the number of his name.…

Revelations 13:16-17

Technologies designed specifically to track and monitor human beings have been in development for at least two decades.

In the virtual realm, software programs are now capable of watching us in real time, going so far as to make predictions about our future behaviors and sending alerts to the appropriate monitoring station depending on how a computer algorithm flags your activities. That is in and of itself a scary proposition.

What may be even scarier, however, is what’s happening in the physical realm. According to researches working on human-embedded microchips it’s only a matter of time before these systems achieve widespread acceptance.

Chances are you’re carrying a couple of RFID microchips now. And if you are, they’re sending out a 15-digit number that identifies you. That number can be picked up by what’s called an ISO compliant scanner. And they’re everywhere, too.

It’s not possible to interact with society in a meaningful way by not having a mobile phone. I think human implants are likely to go along a very similar route. It would be such a disadvantage to not have the implant that it essentially becomes not optional.

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Your initial reaction to this idea may be one of disbelief. There’s no way society would accept such a device. Why would anyone want to implant this in their body?

Consider for a moment where we are right now. For decades Americans rejected the notion that they would submit to being tracked or recorded.

Yet, just about every American now carries a mobile phone. They’re so prevalent, in fact, that many consider it a “right,” prompting the government to actually provide subsidies to those who can’t afford one on their own.

Embedded in every one of those phones is an RFID chip that can track our every movement via GPS or cell tower triangulation. Moreover, those microphones and cameras that come standard on every phone can be remotely activated by law enforcement surveillance systems, a capability that has existed since the early 2000’s.

But as intrusive as these devices are, they are accepted as the norm by billions of people world wide. Not only that, but no one had to “force” them on us. We are, it seems, the masters of our own enslavement. And we pay top dollar to have the best tracking device money can buy!

Granted, one can simply disconnect from “the grid” by throwing away their cell phone. But, the direction these new monitoring technologies are moving coupled with continued government expansion of surveillance suggests that microchip RFID technology will eventually be non-voluntary.

Michael Snyder of The Truth Wins asks What will you do when you can no longer buy or sell without submitting to biometric identification?

This technology is going to keep spreading, and it is going to become harder and harder to avoid it.

And it is easy to imagine what a tyrannical government could do with this kind of technology.  If it wanted to, it could use it to literally track the movements and behavior of everyone.

And one day, this kind of technology will likely be so pervasive that you won’t be able to open a bank account, get a credit card or even buy anything without having either your hand or your face scanned first.

It’s difficult to imagine a populace that will freely submit to such digital bondage. But as has been the case with the degradation of personal privacy and rights in America, be assured it won’t simply become law over night.

First, the technologies will need to be generally accepted by society. It’ll start with real-time consumer based products like Google Glass. The older generations may reject it, but in a couple of years you can bet that tens of millions of kids, teens and younger adults will be roaming the streets while sporting cool shades, interactive web surfing and the capability to record everything around them and upload it to the internet instantly.

Next, as we’re already seeing from early adopters, RFID chips will be voluntarily implanted under our skin for everything from access to high security buildings to grocery store purchases.

Eventually, once the concept is generally accepted by the majority, it will become our new “social security number.”

To gain access to official services, you’ll need to be a verified human. Without verification you won’t even be able to purchase a six pack of beer, let alone get medical care or a driver’s license.

Whether we like it or not this is the future. Every purchase you make and every step you take will be tracked by a tiny 15-digit passive microchip, meaning that the only way to “turn it off” will be to physically remove it from your body.

In essence, we’ll soon live in a world of Always On Monitoring.

Our children and grandchildren – at least most of them – will likely not only submit to implantation, they’ll gladly pay the costs so that they, too, can “interact with society in a meaningful way.”


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    1. Walt Kowalski

      They have two choices….

      1. They can leave me alone.

      2. They can kill me (Be advised, I will not go quietly)

      Tired of the tyrannical B.S.

      • yourmotherwaswrong

        “It’s not possible to interact with society in a meaningful way by not having a mobile phone.”

        Really??? I’ve been able to “interact with society” for 5 years now without a “mobile phone!”

        “microchip RFID technology will eventually be non-voluntary.”

        Only if the you/people allow it!

        “To gain access to official services, you’ll need to be a verified human.”

        Who needs “official services?”

        “Whether we like it or not this is the future.

        It sounds like Mac has “thrown in the towel.”

        • Wilson

          I wasn’t too worried about all of this until I read the part about not being able to buy beer. Now it is serious.

          • Signs

            The sign says,
            Brew your own beer.

            • Stig's American Cousin

              How can a person interact with anything in a meaningful way when they are hunched over and staring at a tiny screen while ignoring everything around them?

              • buttcrackofdoom

                just take a look around you at disneyland…..EVVVERRRRYYYYONE has a “smart”phone, sending pictures, texting, talking. our kids don’t know what to do without them anymore! it aint no good thing, that’s a surety!

                • Fakez

                  You’re the parents and you allow it. You are responsible.

                • TheGuy

                  Just hook it into my brains likee a HUD display. I’ll be staring straight at you and not even seeing a thing as I surf… basically everything.

                  Oh wait Google BeerGoggles… right right…

                • Joe

                  You forgot to say they were missing everything they did not see by putting their faces in those phones.

                • laura m.

                  Most families are dysfunctional! using smart phones in stores, on the streets, or in movie theaters, Dr’s ofc even tho’ not allowed- yakking away like a mindless parrot. Parents buy their kids this crap and don’t spend quality time, and kids aren’t disciplined because cowardly parents are intimidated by their kids turning them in for abuse. The prepaid $15. a month basic phone is all I need and rarely use it. I try to stay in the real world, yet live a semi reclusive lifestyle as I have given up for the most part on mankind and prefer reading instead of socializing as most people are shallow airheads, stuck in stupid. Few savvy folks nowdays.

                • La Vonda

                  I don’t have one. I am not getting one either. I refuse to be one of those people who have no life other than their phone (if that’s what we can still call it now). No, I am using a good old fashioned PC to write this. I hardly ever use my computer at home anymore and I do not have a laptop. What do I do for fun you ask? I love hiking with friends, gardening, going to the zoo, museums, etc. Wow, you know…living!

                • WHAT IS TAXED . COM

                  Henry Kissinger said Military men are dumb stupid animals, but this really applies to most people. If you have a cell phone, Facebook account, and Twitter, then there is probably no saving you from your stupidity. The rest of you should search tax regs for “excluded income” then obey the law.

                  ecfr DOT gov

                  what is taxed DOT com

                • Joe Beck

                  Only idiots go to Disneyland.

              • Randy

                You hit the nail right on the head there! People walking side by side down the street, texting each other instead of talking, is NOT what I would ever call a meaningful interaction!!
                The world wide fiat paper currency financial system is on the verge of collapsing anyway, and when it does, there most likely won’t be enough of a “cushion” between the collapse and any available alternative for it to be able to step in and take over.
                And how about THIS; Just THINK about how much infrastructure will be needed for that RFID chip system to work for even just one hour, let alone the rest of your natural life. From the making of the components of it to actually inserting it into people and then reading the outputs, WHO will be paying for it all when virtually no one is producing anything anymore?!?!
                If you do not have food, water, protection and coins set aside, you will be soooo screwed when TSHTF you won’t believe it!!

                • ladynotplaying

                  I agree with what you have typed. The ‘fat lady’ is warming up for her last song.

                • Ajhnson

                  If you’re not saved and sealed with the Holy Spirit you’ll be screwed even of you’ve preppedto thenines.

              • Deborah

                Well, a long time ago, we all use to MAIL hand written letters, what happened to that, IF you ever get one of those letters it’s a BIG THING…. that just doesn’t happen anymore, we just email or text… it’s a lot faster but less personal . Times are changing and will continue to change with or without us… BUT I must say, what was said in the BIBLE about not to take the mark of the beast… you won’t be able to buy or sell food,,,, that kind of freaks me out on these micro chips, but the micro chips doesn’t say its 666 or the name of the beast.. so I wonder if it’s referring to these chips or some other kinds that haven’t come around yet…?

                • nicole

                  “either the name of the beast or the number of his name.…”

                  I don’t think it will necessarily be called “666” or the mark of the beast. What it may be talking about is something like (I’m just throwing this out there) having to do with “the world”. Satan is the god of this world so it doesn’t necessarily have to be called by his name. I can’t think of any good examples but most likely I think it will be something to do with worldliness or the Earth or maybe one of the 7 deadly sins.These things represent Satan. So maybe the name will be a symbolic representation of satan.

                • ladynotplaying

                  We are in a digital world. Everything is made up of 1’s and zero’s, the basic language of a computer, at it’s root. How do we know what set of on and off switches, creates the name of the beast or it’s number 666?

                • TellTheTruth

                  Most people don’t realize that the numbers “666” are already embedded in EVERY bar code – notice there are three long lines on each bar code…the first one on the left side, in the middle and another one as the last one on the right side. These lines all represent the number “6”. So no matter what product it is, if it has a bar code, it is already marked. The bible tells us that when that mark is transferred to humans (think bar code tatoo or RFID device) that will be the event that is known as the mark of the beast. Having it on a product you buy is much different that having it permanently embedded in your body. We as humans were bought with a price by the death, burial and resurrection of Christ. We cannot identify with both Him and the world system. We must choose this day whom we will serve.

                • someonewhoknows

                  The mark of the beast is for people to go to the church on Sunday which is the first day of the week. This is the opposite of the mark of Yahweh which is keeping the seventh day sabbath. Constantine implemented the change and it carried a death penalty if you wonder how or why people would go along with it, they did not want to, but they wanted to live. This is so simple, The evil Unholy beastly system changed the sabbath, and everyone just goes along with it. Look up the mark of Yahweh and you will see that it is a mark upon your hand and between the eyelets showing that Yahweh has Sanctified you (set you aside for a holy use). The opposite is when people go along with the masses mindlessly doing what the crowds do without doing any studying (to show themselves approved) at all. This same mark applies in a broader context to those religions who are not following bloody Mary. Anyone who clings to any of the righteous laws Yahweh gave us for our protection is targeted for destruction. The message can be clear but you have to wake up to see it. The sign says “Follow the queen of heaven or we will kill you”. And yet those who follow her will die anyways from the curses they bring upon themselves. My favorite thing to read these days with regard to killer viruses is “Scientists are stunned/puzzled/baffled and can’t figure out how that virus which contains pieces of man’s dna got into that Pig/Cow/Camel/Bird. Gotta love how easily they are fooled/stunned/amazed. Leviticuz chapter eighteen will tell you how that virus came to be able to infect man. It came from man, did some studying while in the pig, and then comes back to man, every time garanteed. No puzzle

                • James

                  Certainly the world wide web is an important component of our daily lives. Consider the”www” in all the URLs
                  within the context of the Hebrew alphabet. The phonetic value of the letter “w” is 6 ( translates to

                • NotAnIdiot


                  How’s the weather in make believe land? You like things up apparently.

                • Paul

                  What the Bible describes is coming. What we see now and what this article is talking about are steps along the way to what the Bible describes. Don’t disbelieve the Bible’s prophecy just b/c what it describes isn’t here yet or b/c the 666 number isn’t a part of what this article describes. Be wise and believe the Bible. You won’t go wrong!

                • Hw00d

                  666 / 2 = 0
                  333 / 2 = 1
                  166 / 2 = 0
                  83 / 2 = 1
                  41 / 2 = 1
                  20 / 2 = 0
                  10 / 2 = 0
                  5 / 2 = 1
                  2 / 2 = 0
                  1 / 2 = 1

                  = 1010011010

                • carol

                  yes this is the mark of the beast believe that no human has to take this on the body,we have a choice stand up be counted everyone

                • Victor

                  Revelation 13 (666 number, his name, etc.) can only be activated when the ‘Anti-Christ’is revealed.

            • Gods Creation

              “””Every purchase you make and every step you take will be tracked by a tiny 15-digit passive microchip, meaning that the only way to “turn it off” will be to physically remove it from your body.”””

              Good business to get into now is the removal and deactivation of RFID chips.

              They can not force anyone to do anything. When it gets so uncomfortable to live without it that you can’t really do it, don’t get chipped. Instead, go and shoot one or many the “watchers and enforcers” and let God bring you back home.

              The alternative is to forsake God while remaining alive. Better to aid in His task or killing the machine.

                • WilmingtonObserver

                  I actually took the time to go to the web sites that you listed. They were, totally, useless.

                • TellTheTruth

                  The newer RFID chips do not have any metal in them, therefore they cannot be detected or removed from the body. The new ones are made from a tiny dot of a gel like substance and float around in the blood stream freely. Certain devices can “read” them if a person has one in his/her body, but they cannot be removed. I choose to let God seal me with His seal (see Revelations, Christians will be sealed on their foreheads by God in the end) rather than take a mark that separates me from God forever. Half of the people on earth right now are under the age of 30. Many of them think nothing about tattooing or piercing their bodies. Imagine what an evil government system could do with that fact. Billions of young people would never even know they are selling out to Satan by taking the mark, which they would think was the latest trend. Satan’s greatest lie is that he and hell do not exist. Imagine the shock to find out in the end that you’ve been lied to and it’s too late to reverse your eternal destiny.

                • Anonymous

                  What would happen if you wore a magnetic bracelet, necklace or whatever?

                • Hw00d

                  keywords: Faraday cage RF-shield Counter-frequency’s

              • durango kidd

                When they attempt to “chip” me I will get three. If they try to “chip” you, be sure to get two. The numbers are with US.

                Any Rogue Administration that demands the population be “chipped”, for any reason, has declared war on the American people and their Constitution. Violence is justified.

                Aim small, miss small. 🙂

                • Walt Kowalski

                  The war was declared on us long ago.

                  This is but one more in a long series of attacks.

                • sixpack

                  This, we all knew was coming. The only question is—what are we going to do about it? I’m not an animal and I will make it very unpleasant for anyone who tries to treat me as such. I will not be chipped. I will die, or leave this damned place first.

                • Hunter


                  Sorry dude, you forgot the primary “target” of any rogue regime, per said chipping/mark-o-the-beast….

                  ..that being “GOD (the creator)”.

                  If ever this shit goes down on our watch, there will be “NO DMZ”…the line will be thin & very sharp…no grey area, bro!


                  Men are easier to “hunt”…than deer!!!!

                  They’re predictable in the extreme….its called/termed….routine!!!

                • Say When

                  The last time people were marked it wasn’t nearly as high tech, “tattoos”, and that worked out real well for the powers that were. This will not end well.

                • laura m.

                  DK: if gov forces chips on anyone, blame it on the useless, cowardly scumbag lowlife corrupt politicians! And the dumb asses that voted them in who were stupid enough to go to the circus/show up at the polls.

                • durango kidd

                  Laura m: Failure to show up at the polls by the American People is EXACTLY what elected officials want. Then they can take power by a few votes of their crony capitalist friends and the mass of useless eaters; and legitimize their enslavement of the American People one rule, regulation, and euphemism at a time.

                  What the elected PTB fear most is an engaged and enraged electorate, like those who recalled certain lawmakers in Colorado who pushed gun control. Your perspective is the perspective of a loser, a sheeple who will roll over for the PTB and allow them to do whatever they want. Grow some balls laura. get some backbone.

                  I oppose the free grazing by Rancher Bundy, but the willingness of some to organize, and defy the BLM to the point of armed resistance, shows what the American People can do if they are willing to engage their masters. You will always be a slave, because that is your mindset. 🙂

              • One of God's children..

                This is the sign of the “Beast!!” You can bet this will happen! Mabey, not in my lifetime, but our children and grandchildren may be threatend with the “mark”. We need to fight against this, for them! I will die, before I accept this evil tattoo!! Our rights and our privacy, they are being taken away from us!

                • bcats

                  They can kill me! I won’t take the chip! (or mark) This world won’t be worth living in anyway!

                • sherrybaby

                  Im with you on that.

                • Elijiah

                  99 out of 100 people DO NOT KNOW what the Mark of the Beast is. This chip, should it ever be implanted, IS NOT the Mark. It may be a way to ENFORCE the Mark but it is not the Mark.

                  666 is not the Mark of the Beast. It is the NUMBER OF A MAN… who is identified with the Beast Power that ENFORCES the Mark of the Beast.

                • Paul

                  I don’t know how old you are but if you’re 60 or less, I believe the possibility that this happens in your lifetime is very, very real. I believe that event are going to take place that will cause these things to happen quickly.

                  For instance, what if the Rapture is true. Personally, I don’t know what to believe. But if it were to take place, that would be such a chaotic event that life on this planet would change in an instant. If there are more Christians in the U.S. than anywhere else, the U.S. would be hit the hardest and would cease to exist as it presently does. It’s power and influence would potentially fade away almost overnight.

                  If a series of significant terrorist attacks were to take place worldwide, people would be more accepting of Big Brother and a system such as the one described in this article. Look what’s happened in the U.S. the past 10 years after 9/11.

                  I believe the events described in the Bible are closer than we think. The events in Ukraine and Iran’s drive for a nuclear bomb are going to hasten the end-time prophecies in the Bible. That’s my belief.

              • Henry

                When you start killing the enforcers you have already abandoned God, because God said “thou shalt not kill” and he also said “If someone hits you on one cheek, turn to him the other also.” Don’t allow “them” to change who you are (or should be), which is a likeness of Christ. Did Christ retaliate at the roman soldiers who mistreated, flogged, and crucified him?

                If you truly had faith in God, you wouldn’t be worried about the devil’s plans for mankind and his attempts to starve you into submission. You’d know that God has promised in his word that he will take care of you. Even if you are destined to suffer for His name, you will trust that ultimately there will be eternal life and a reward in heaven for you. That’s why we need to build our faith NOW and grow close to God, otherwise how will we make the correct but tough choices when the time comes?

                • VaDave

                  Seven million Jews turned the other cheek in 1940’s Europe. Lesson learned, never again!

                • moses

                  I think the actual translation is thou shalt not murder.
                  Defending oneself and ones community does not qualify. Resisting is not immoral. Do you think the jews being led to the gas chambers under the nazis should have resisted?

                  Sane people do.

                • james

                  The OT command in the original Hebrew said do not commit “murder” which is very different from killing in self-defense. Since you are quoting the OT, you might want to read it and see how many time God told His people to kill their enemies. If all Christian’s followed you way of thinking we would still be a part of the British Empire or maybe even speaking German right now. As a Christian I am commanded to walk in love and to pray for those who don’t like me or wish me harm, and I do. However, if/when they come after me and mine with lethal force I will defend myself with lethal force. Freedom is never free and I will fight to the death (theirs or mine) to keep mine.

                • Winston

                  I agree. We will be persecuted in his name. We need to encourage people to read the Bible.

                • Spivey

                  I will sacrifice myself and take an eternity in hell if it means those that come after me don’t have to live in the way envisioned. And just maybe God will cut me a little slack for that.

                • BC

                  God never said ‘thou shalt not kill’. He said ‘thou shalt not murder’. A murder is an unjustified killing. There is nothing wrong with a justified killing. I think someone trying to take my god given rights from me, and turning me into a slave of the state, would be grounds for a justified killing.

                • Butterknife

                  It also says live in peace with all men, as much as lies within you, there is a line where living in peace with all men is breached.

                • tom

                  The turn the cheek quote was an instruction by Jesus to those who went forth preaching. If your preaching was to come on to strong or upsetting and you got slapped then you were to turn the other cheek. Real Christians are not door mats.

                • Shawn

                  Its actually “Thou shall not murder”. Murdering and killing are seperate things. If you break into my house, I am obligated to kill you, and will. If you make me mad, and I pull out a gun and shoot you, I murdered you, which is against the commandment. It depends on the situation and the motive whether its murder or killing.

                • Rod Taylor

                  Christ’s death was different than anyone else’s could or would be. It redeemed all mankind. He received all sin from all time into his sinless body, spirit and mind — as the sacrificial lamb of God. He was the savior. He came to Jerusalem knowing He was there to meet his destiny, His death, and that it was necessary. His death, as he had said, was even why he came into this world — not so much to teach moral behavior as to perform a supernatural act of our redemption. The teaching and the miracles were to put all eyes on Him and authenticate His divine identity, but without His death and resurrection they wouldn’t be of much value because we don’t have the power to follow those, just as under law all men were condemned.

                  Now the lives of we mere mortals are different, not sacrificial in a way that benefits anyone vicariously. Your death wouldn’t save me. Mine would not save you. We are commanded to be strong and show our courage. Didn’t God appoint Moses to go forth and defend his people, then Joshua … and of course David, a warrior and a man of blood. Jesus didn’t cancel out the past in that regard, instead he came to fulfill the law as the only one who could. He removed it by fulfilling it because beneath it’s weight all would fail and die condemned.

                  Would God respect a woman or a man who cringed at aggression while pretending it was righteousness that prevented them from fighting to defend the innocent? I don’t think so. Who ever told you that?

                  What implications does your pacifism have for all the soldiers who have killed the enemy (not to mention died themselves), from the revolution through world wars. They were fighting systems that were trying to make mankind unfree (sometimes not that clear in all wars of course) but certainly considering WW2 you can see that.

                  Forget about yourself in this. Would you allow your children to be taken, mentally and physically molested, turned into a Godless citizen — or killed? Would that weakness you rename as righteousness impress the Lord. Obviously not.

                  Would you fight to protect the little one’s? If you have a dog, wouldn’t you fight to defend it against the soldiers of satan, which is what they are. And as far as turning the other cheek, please understand that’s an act of defiance, not of surrender. Read more about that elsewhere.

                  Do you not understand that when a nation goes to war that isn’t covered by the commandment “Thou shalt not kill.” Nor does that apply to protecting your family or neighbors or yourselves.

                  The Hebrew word for kill in the commandment was “fonyonce (sp?) meaning to “commit criminal homicide,” ie. premeditated first degree murder. Certainly to fight the enforcers of a satanic regime, by definition murderers for Satan is the son of perdition, the son of death, is not criminal homicide. It’s heroic righteousness, I believe.

                  Were those GIs who rolled into the death camps in Germany committing sin by saving those in prison. Believe me the Germans didn’t welcome them, but strove to kill them — and they outkilled the enemy.

                  Certainly the Apostles were all martyred one by one, but they also performed miracles, heard directly the voice of the Lord, had help from angels on occasion and healed the sick and even raised the dead. We’re not empowered that way and our rules are of a different category.

                  Do not transform the Christian faith into a cowardly cult of do-gooders. We should be the staunchest warriors of them all, and we are in fact just that – the only ones whose ideology is an obstacle to the totalitarian statists and their plan to enslave the human race. Where does resistance to that evil come from — the tenets of the faith of those who believe in Christ, the King of Kings.

                  Jesus came the first time to die for us. He comes the second time on a white horse at the head of army of saints. He won’t be coming as the lamb of God but as the Lion of God — come back to judge the world. He Himself is peace, but won’t be coming back in peace. The kingdom he establishes will be a peaceable kingdom, and He will rule it personally. But to establish that He comes in with a sword. Ever heard of the battle of armageddon? Israel and the church get help, and not a multitude of turned cheeks.

                  Jesus said He came here not to make peace — but He came with a sword. That sword divides truth from lies, brother from brother, the living from the dead. Be on the right side.

                  You’ve been duped into preaching surrender to satan. Let us all sing Onward Christian Soldiers and go forth and kick satan’s lying ass. There can be no treaty with the arch liar of them all, the father of lies, only victory over him or death. Jesus has given us victory through his resurrection.

                  God bless you. May he also enlighten you and set your feet on the path of peace — which travels through some smoking battlefields and much travail. There is no peace outside of Jesus Christ.

                • Dave w

                  The commandment is “Thou shalt not murder”. Even Jesus said sell your blanket and buy a sword.

                • Jose Garcia

                  Henry- Did our forefathers abandon God when they started the revolution? You need to consider how much you love your kids before allowing anyone to take the rights that so many have died for, in my opinion your just a coward.

                • Britton

                  Christ was rightfully flogged and crucified because he willingly took on our sins and we are guilty! Why do you think he made no defense? I was responsible for his death as were you. Nevertheless he saved me by his grace. That’s Love.

              • bb_959

                They that live by the sword shall die by the sword. So, you recommend people violating one of the 10 Commandments then. You can see that the book of Revelation is in fulfillment. Jesus said you must be born again. Why not accept Christ as Saviour ask Him to come into your heart and to forgive you of your sins. He is able to take care of His own.

                • Rod Taylor

                  No one here has recommended living by the sword. When the article suggest that taking the implant might not be voluntary it’s establishing a circumstance in which that act of compelling people who God sacrificed to set free — is actually the living by the sword. Then let them also die by the sword. You think if mankind through history let any tyrant run over them without resisting by force of arms there would be any truth or freedom left?

                  David was a man of faith. He killed Goliath through the power of that faith – but used a weapon to do the job. Was David living by the slingshot or living by his faith? All his brethren had weapons superior but lacked David’s degree of faith and trust in God — but he still had to walk out on the killing ground and take the monster down.

                  Why are you confused? God provides our food as well, but we have to plow the ground and plant the crops. According to your theology we’d sit around and starve and complain that God had failed us. The earth is cursed with thorns and we’re subjected to the laws of nature since the fall. Of course we have our faith and God’s help to assist us, but it’s up to us to be the hands of God on earth. What kind of mad, psychotic God do you imagine, one that comes and imparts truth to his people, telling them to submit to evil, let their families be raped, impoverished, miseducated, overcome by armed tyrants? Not hardly.

                  You obviously have problems reconciling facts with more general truths. Those who defend themselves in righteous causes are honoring Jesus Christ, who with his life defended us from the sword of death. Of course he died. That was his appointed destiny, as he said. He was also resurrected in a singular moment of cosmic history. His death and resurrection was also our own, but when he said pick up your cross and follow me — He wasn’t advocating that all go get crucified. He was saying — pick up your death and follow me. Death in the spiritual sense is now quite dead, as long as you follow Christ.

                  It’s written that Jesus Christ died to set men free — free form what, may I ask? Free from lies, deceit, darkness, sin, tyranny and death, the final death, the second death, because we still must die once as it’s appointed unto man.

                  Our job is to maintain the world as best we can, keeping the field clear for truth, being guardians of that, opposing lies and satanic heresy. That social duty of the Christian includes the execution of murderers, and the armed defense of country. If a foreign nation attacked us would you think it virtue not to resist?

                  Is it any different when your own beloved nation has been subverted, stolen by liars and usurpers and turned against the righteous truth that God intended for us.

                  Why is this the home of the brave, land of the free? Why and how has God shed his grace on thee (us?) Even those song lyrics have been marginalized by the current secularist (pro-moslem) progressive regime. (progressing toward what?)

                  That’s to make the people forget who they are. But we haven’t. We are a Christian nation. We are the salt of the earth — and Jesus asked the question what good it was – if the salt has lost it’s savor, it’s character?

                  America needs encouragement, not stupid talk of surrender, not the peddled lies that dissuade our people from the truth — and thus possession of the courage it will take to defend our families and our lives.

                  The idea that Americans can be made to buy Obamacare is clearly unconstitutional, and Justice Roberts had to twist his logic to justify it as a tax, something the administration clearly claimed it wasn’t. But the fix was in or that case would not so quickly have gone to the Supreme Court. However, following that logic that the government can legally compel us to all things raises the question where will the tyranny end?

                  Maybe there should be implants inserted in the genitals of women and of men, allowing government planned population control, or at least racial or sexual reapportionment, if there are to be races at all — sort of bio-affirmative action, or mandated quotas of temperament or brain wave patterns. The same goes for religion and politics as it does for race.

                  Nature is too unpredictable. The government should anticipate the problem patterns or people and change them or else not allow their birth – the ultimate destiny of birth control.

                  Or when the mind is duly mapped, let’s not have so many conservatives or even religious individuals (those with larger temporal lobes, according to our research) as it’s interfering with the implementation of the leader’s policies. Is that something you might resist?

                  Or what if there were determined to be destructive thoughts (such as belief in constitutional freedoms or even thoughts regarding Jesus Christ) and so an implant is created that will monitor and phase cancel out such magnetic waves that flow through the brain, making of yourselves and your babies (for those allowed to breed) a reality in which God himself was impossible to conceive — thus making into God the leader of the state. Is that okay with you?

                  Just go along, cooperate. Though the apostles weren’t men of war they were amazingly defiant and were constantly under pressure from the other Jews (as they themselves were Jews). They were spat on, ridiculed, threatened, stoned, imprisoned, assaulted, and ultimately killed — but they kept coming on. This is why Jesus said the gates of hell would not prevail against his church. That means the church is the one attacking, since gates do not attack.

                  No, the church does not attack to kill, but anyone may defend his or her own life – and as in all the Jewish law a life implies a household, even the animals.

                  Is it your assumption that to accept the Holy Spirit, to become a Christian, is a path to inevitable martyrdom? In that case you should be a moslem, because your martyrdom in Islam is a guaranteed path to salvation. In the Christian faith only the death of Jesus has anything to do with your salvation or eternal life.

                  Your thoughts on passivity is an exhortation to allow our lives to be taken — and an encouragement to let satanic powers make your children and their children blind to truth, to turn us all into slaves. If you heard someone preaching on the virtues of slavery as an acceptable condition for anyone, you’d probably resist. But there is no more odious form of slavery than the slavery of the heart and mind — yet the Christ you recommend is weak and false.

                  I don’t mean to be offensive but He is. If Jesus thought the way you suggest then why did his chief apostle — Peter — carry a sword? Wouldn’t Jesus through the years of ministry have noticed and said to Peter, get rid of it? Three years in intimate contact and Peter still was armed. Jesus had no problem with it. What do you imagine that sword could have been for?

                  It was for Peter’s defense. No one could hurt the Lord except by His own allowance, but Peter was a mortal man. You make up a theology that obviously no Christian intellectual along the centuries has embraced. And certainly not Jesus himself.

                  Peter was told by Jesus that he would one day face a martyrs death. That was again an appointed role. But Jesus said nothing about expecting us to fail to defend ourselves, our loved ones, or the truth we’d been given.

              • kelyn

                The bible says that we will be able to refuse the mark of the beast and are to refuse it. We are to die before accepting it. Even if it means death, we are to die before we denounce our Lord. Stick to your values. Cling to Christ. Don’t take my word on it. Read Revelations foryyourselves. Be prepared. And trust that God will keep his promises to those that stand with him.

                • Elijiah

                  I have to reinerate…

                  If you do not know what the Mark of the Beast IS, how can you avoid taking it?
                  Are people just going to GUESS at what this mark is? Speculation on what the ‘mark’ is could get you into a heap of trouble!

                  ALL DOCRTINE is to be centered in Jesus Christ. People speak of the ‘mark’ and say that no matter what they will never take it or receive it… but I never hear of anyone speak of the “seal of God”. You have those who will take the ‘mark of the beast’ and you have those who have the “seal of God in their foreheads” (Revelation 7:3)

                  There must be something that those who are saved have, that those who a THINK they are saved don’t have. It’s called an ‘abundance of the Holy Spirit’ and you can see evidence of this in Scripture. (see Matthew 7:21-23) And how do you get this abundance of the H.S.? You OBEY Christ! You keep His Commandment and do those things that would PLEASE HIM. Those who do this will be sealed- and those who chose to walk according to their own desires will be lost.

                  It is nice to know Biblical truth and to have peace and contentment on all these ‘spiritual matters’ that are troubling our world at this time in history. The word of God tells us that “you shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free.” (John 8:32) Any and all who come to God with an OPEN and TEACHABLE HEART and MIND- will be feed with the “Bread of heaven”.

              • Sam

                It will only be just under the skin for a little while, then swallowed and directed to middle body requiring major surgery for removal.

            • silverstate

              the barley will have GMO prion RFID genomics……….

            • Sane-Informed-Minority

              That sounds great on the surface. Sure, Go buy all of your ingredients at the local brewing supply store….don’t forget to “wear” your microchip to make the purchase! People, always work things backwards (leave out no steps) and you’ll always find someone, at some level, trying to control your behavior, know your actions, or whereabouts.

            • J.D.

              Not only brew your own beer, make beer and sell it to your friends in exchange for underground currency or barter with no need for biometric scans. And if a bureaucrat comes to your house to arrest you for transacting off the grid – SHOOT THEM.

            • me

              still need to buy your supplies…

            • 41MagMan

              Right on, Signs! Making beer is easy and its fun. Of all the prepper skills I have acquired in the past few years, brewing is one of the best… along with reloading ammo, of course. 🙂

          • Anonymous

            Seriously, they have two options:

            1) They can fuck off and kill me

            2) or i’ll just leave this shit hole country and move to S. America. Since I speak Spanish i’ll have little problems adapting.

            Maybe i’ll defect to Cuba and piss off the US Gubmint while i’m at it. 🙂

            • the truth man

              Please get your Butt out of my country. You have not the right to be here. Leave and go back to your Homies and Bromance.

            • Ed

              And ALL had the mark of the beast. Running away to South America will not save you. You will either -RESIIST. or SUBMIT. Either way your going to die, but your going to die sooner or later anyway, right? You’ll just have the chance to do it on your own terms.
              “I’d rather die on my feet like a man, then live on my knees as a slave”

              • 41MagMan

                Indeed. Not only that, but for anyone who believes in Valhalla, geting there with several slaves in tow that you have defeated in honorable combat IS a big deal. Might as well get SOME use out of those fud-puckers.

            • RDF

              Go Now.

              • ht tech

                shut up

            • RaptureGal

              What makes you think this is only going to happen in America?

              The Bible says this system will apply globally with one man — a dictator called the Antichrist — in total control. He will require worship. Taking his mark {I’m convinced this computer chip is it} will demonstrate that worship. The reward will be the TEMPORARY ability to survive until the terrible judgments begin. By then the people with the Mark have irrevocably sold their souls to Satan and cannot change their minds.

              I pray people will get serious about salvation and accept Christ NOW. No one is promised tomorrow.

          • Shootit

            Very serious. Just think about how it went with Bundy’s 400 cows. Now expanded that x 70 million beer drinkers. That would be the point where there would be lynchings.

            • Be informed

              When I first saw this article all I could think of was how it was said long ago that you would not be able to do business without the mark of the beast. You could not function without the chip. Well, I would rather live in a cave somewhere and eat grass and grasshoppers than have some Borg nanotechnology shoved into my body. It is beyond frightening to think of what these chips can do beyond just being scanned. These chips can eventually take away your self identity, a type of internal lobotomy.

              ONLY pure evil can come from these WEAPONS against humanity. The mere thought of being forced to have these put into your body would be a second holocaust. Yet this time there is thankfully a much higher number of very well armed people that would NEVER allow themselves to be poisoned with these “devil’s tools”.

              • the renegade braveheart

                BI, good evening, and I agree totally. The only chips I ever accept are potato chips, or corn chips, or tortilla chips.

                • Barterman in sc

                  Hershey s chips.

                • Wade

                  agree with the above. Should this come to pass in my life time, looks like I`ll just start taking what I need. Sign me up and make laws to make me an outlaw,well, so be it.

                • Be informed

                  @ bravheart. What bothers me the most are all the people that would be so easily fooled into thinking that such implants would make their lives so much easier and convenient. This is the way any wicked government passes any bad laws, with enough approval of the majority of the the people.

                  One word I can think of to describe any RFID chip put into the flesh of any human beings.


                • Ranger

                  I think Shootit is pretty close in saying there would be lynchings. I think (well, mostly) that this would be the real line in the sand. I know too many people who wouldn’t go for this, no matter what the actions. The shouted words “From my cold dead hands” and “Molon Labe” would echo louder than the rounds going off around here in rebellion to this insane idea. I do think there would be enough of a fight that it wouldn’t get too far without the feds tucking tail and running.

                • linda g

                  corn chips = GMO

                • One of God's children..

                  Don’t forget….”Poker chips”

              • pissinwiththewind


                You kinda hit the nail on the head.

                The least of people’s worries should be whether or not they can be tracked. The PTB can find you because they have “eyes in the sky” or “eyes in the hills”; because there are idiots willing to rat anyone out for a buck, or to think they are getting a leg up on people.

                The problem is, that TPTB are wanting to change the genetic makeup of people to make them vulnerable to their whims.

                What may seem like a little chip to help with transactions and locate you in case of an emergency, or keep medical records in/on your person, may very well be a DNA modifying chip that will change your whole genetic structure. The aliens/demonic beings, have been doing this for decades. It is estimated that as many as four million may have been abducted or secretly chipped and violated by them. The real tragedy is that there is a possibility that members of our own leaders are working with them.

                Believe it or not, they walk among us, and are breeding among us. Just like in the days of Noah, they are trying to denegrate the gene pool, and make “hybrids”. We have had a sort of hybrid with us since the time of Adam and Eve, known as the Kenites (sons of Cain). They are evil because of their genetic makeup and their allegience to Lucifer. Not a specific race of peoples because they have inner bred with all races.

                It will be ramped up just before the return of our Saviour. Watch, read, and learn.

                I wish I were wrong, but, I’m not, and the truth will come out soon enough.

                • Hunter

                  You can bet your ass that if this chipping-shit is mandated by govt, it will begin amongst the top echelon types (i.e the elite, mega-rich & national politicians), who’ll accept said chip for two reasons:

                  1.> ..they’re already/currently followers/worshipers of Satan!

                  2.> set an example for the clueless!

                  That said, I believe those receiving any form of govt assistance or any/all employed by govt, including the armed services, will be the second tier/level to be chipped. Followed by the rank & file population.

                  Therefore I predict, when such efforts are first initiated, you will see a substantial number of real Americans…become hard focused, driven “HUNTERS” of those perpetuating/advocating/mandating such wickedness/evil…the elite/politicians/bureaucrats…WILL BE TARGETED. Many (Satan’s useful idiots) WILL BE ELIMINATED!

                  The HUNTERS will understand that the “sitrep” is biblical…and being true to their belief in GOD, they’ll voluntarily commit to his WAR EFFORT on Earth!!!

                  …yes, there will be others who will run, hide & try to stay below Satan’s govt radar, in an effort to avoid the “chip/mark”.

                  …but in the end, it boils down to this:……



                  ***(there is no other honorable way out)***

                • Socrates

                  Heavy Metal band Judas Priest wrote a ‘song’ about the surveillance state way back in 1982.

                  “Electric Eye” is an allusion to the book Nineteen Eighty-Four by George Orwell, in the use of the name of the pseudo-omniscient satellite that watches over the community at all times. In this dystopia, the form of government, Ingsoc (Newspeak for English Socialism), is utterly totalitarian, and if citizens are caught rebelling in any manner, they “disappear”. The song has been called “prescient” for its depiction of a modern surveillance state.

                  “Electric Eye”

                  Up here in space
                  I’m looking down on you.
                  My lasers trace
                  Everything you do.
                  You think you’ve private lives
                  Think nothing of the kind.
                  There is no true escape
                  I’m watching all the time.

                  I’m made of metal
                  My circuits gleam.
                  I am perpetual
                  I keep the country clean.

                  I’m elected… electric spy
                  I’m protected… electric eye.

                  Always in focus
                  You can’t feel my stare.
                  I zoom into you
                  You don’t know I’m there.
                  I take a pride in probing all your secret moves
                  My tearless retina takes pictures that can prove.

                  I’m made of metal
                  My circuits gleam.
                  I am perpetual
                  I keep the country clean.

                  I’m elected… electric spy
                  I’m protected… electric eye.

                  Electric eye… in the sky
                  Feel my stare… always there
                  ‘s nothing you can do about it.
                  Develop and expose
                  I feed upon your every thought
                  And so my power grows.

                  I’m made of metal
                  My circuits gleam.
                  I am perpetual
                  I keep the country clean.

                  I’m elected… electric spy
                  I’m protected… electric eye.
                  I’m elected…Protected! Detective! Electric Eye!

                • Ancient Coward

                  “Believe it or not, they walk among us, and are breeding among us. Just like in the days of Noah, they are trying to denegrate the gene pool, and make “hybrids”.”

                  Until now, I read this sort of thing on the internet always with some scepticism (which I still think is adequate) but now I feel I have to accept the truth of this more and more. It takes a particular kind of human beings to actively want all this upon us.

                • Anonymous

                  Our DNA has always been altered, but it is done with viruses.

                • 1st Sergeant

                  I wasn’t born with a chip or a tattoo., and I will die without one. If necessary, I will take those who try to force me to comply with me

                • Vernon Williams

                  To P,in the wind, You are so accurate in your comment it`s mind boggling,there are some 2-3billion of them interacting with humans on a daily basis, when they inter-breed with humans the off-springs usually have the same mind set as them on a lower lever, it is literally impossible to know them unless one has direct and indirect experiences with them, this needs to be explained: there are very few on the planet who they fear, and they let this fear known by showing themselves directly or incomprehensible, and what are their fear? “THE TRUTH”, and as you rightly said: they have been amongst us since they took over this planet..they uses a pyschology that is not taught in any institutions, they can be found in all races, their food comes from the negative emotions we emit, which makes it evident as to why we are condition to accept their considered norm..90% can be found on the pulpit,councils, police, the entire legal system, and schools, the low lever ones creates havoc and influences humans of their level,I see all of this as a good, what saddens me is the stubbornness of the human beings where there are compelling info around…

                • 41MagMan


                  “You can bet your ass that if this chipping-shit is mandated by govt, it will begin amongst the top echelon types (i.e the elite, mega-rich & national politicians), who’ll accept said chip…”

                  Yeah? Well we can also bet that any chips implanted into these yo-yos will be deactivated so as to not reveal where they are or record what they are doing. That would be the LAST thing that any of this gang would want.

              • JayJay

                BI–if ONSTAR can shut down the engine of a stolen car, think cyborg!!! Shut down your heart??
                Some fricking hacker gets crazy one day and all those computerizes records get compromised??

                I have so much faith in the powers now, you know the ones that can’t keep s**t straight as is, just add more complications and see how this works.

                • Be informed

                  One of the most frightening movies just about this attacking the body from within via implants called “Fortress”. People were imprisoned like in China for having a second child and every other crime they could come up with. The implant cuased someone’s insides to explode if they crossed a certain point. The couple were afraid of their child becoming a kidbot because newborns got all sorts of implants.

                  Just proves that those evil will try to find anyway and everyway of keeping people in line, everyone. Freedom is something so many take for granted and never lear to truly appreciate as one of the essentials of life and is something that is the easiet to lose.

                • Anonymous

                  Not to forget, population control is in effect. If one is really dumb enough to sell their soul to Satan and take the Mark of the Beast, imagine how sad it will be to find out they are going to remove you anyway. Current population goal is 500 Million. Billions are going to die, even if they take the chip! Why do you think they are pushing for war. Kill the people! Makes less people to put into FEMA camps. Look, we are all going to die, it’s a certainty. I’d rather die thanking God, than die knowing I’m going to Hell for taking the Mark, just so I could live longer! Are you awake yet?

              • Arby

                According to some, many of us are already outlaws! Taking that RFID or not will SEPERATE the Sheeple. Talk about taking the “Wide and Easy” path versus the “Straight and Narrow” this is IT !!

              • home stead

                I swear there are nanobots in those damn flu shots they constantly “scare” people into getting. I never have and never will.

                • Livn4JC

                  I produced the flu vaccines for 6 years. No tracking device in it. I am also a born again Christian, I could never do any such thing because the bible is clear on what it stands for.

                • Casey

                  I don’t know about that but wouldn’t be surprised. You know what I did find out they have been increasingly sneaking into our immunizations though? Read the articles for yourself and do you own research. I was curious the other day when at the doctors office I saw a sign offering preservative-free vaccinations. I wondered how they did that/what that meant and decided to look I up… Apparently many of them use a form of aborted stem cells and many of the immunizations that we all received and gave to our children also utilized a form of aborted stem cells…




                • freedom-always

                  Man that is wild that you said that! Just a minute ago while reading this thread I emailed someone, saying that these chips remind me of those damn flu shots! Such evangelical zeal they use to push people to get those shots!! I refuse!!

                • Anonymous

                  I’ve been saying this for years!!

              • DJ

                The chips could also contain a remotely released poison.

              • Anonymous


              • Shalmaneser

                Have you had your colonoscopy yet? Are you SURE they didn’t leave anything behind?

                • 41MagMan

                  Yeah, I’ve had 3 of them and, no, there is no way to know if anything ‘got left behind’. But, I’d be dead by now without this treatment. As to voluntarily accepting some damned chip, no way, Jose. Not ever… and I do not care what reason is offered for accepting it.

              • gigi garden girl

                I agree with you 100%. What worries me is how these chips can be ‘implanted’ in you without your consent i.e. going to a medical provider for a routine surgery, outpatient procedure and possibly the dentist or gynecologist. I don’t think it is that much of a stretch to think that these things can be implanted without a person ever knowing. Heck, with nanotechnology, anything is possible. That is one reason that I refuse to use any nasal spray medication–because it can cross the blood/brain barrier and who knows what could happen if some rogue nanotechnology device was hidden in the spray.

                This is a very scary, sobering article.

            • kfilly

              First, they will chip the ignorant. It will probably start with the youth. They will make the chip seem cool and hip by giving it some “neat” capabilities. The majority of the herd will see this and voluntarily comply. Yes, most Amerikans are that dumb.

            • Damon F.

              It’s already happening with drivers licenses…I don’t know how many men clearly 50+ years old I have bought alcohol for after they were refused because they didn’t have a valid ID. I’m having the same problem myself, my DL is now expired and the state just gave me a piece of paper, still haven’t got my renewed license that I paid for, almost 6 months ago! I guess it doesn’t pay to be put on the sh/t list.

          • JayJay

            If I can make my chocolate syrup that tastes better than Hershey’s, I can figure how to make my chocolate bars!! 🙂

          • BubbaT

            Brew your own. Beers too damn expensive now anyway. I just brewed up 5 gl of 7.9% dark German that’s exquisite. Damn buddies won’t leave though.

            • Miss DeeDee

              Bubba T,
              I’ve been thinking about brewing my own beer. I would appreciate any recommendations,suggestions and advice from the knowledgable folks.
              Thanks in advance
              — Miss Dee Dee

              • AgDr

                Miss Dee Dee
                I don’t have a link for you, but the guys in my Bible study class just brewed and bottled 5gal of Light India Ale from a kit purchased at a specialty business in Nashville. The guy teaching the “brew” part of the class has had only one bad batch in the several that he has brewed. The brewer stated there are lots of good kits and other materials available on the market. This also goes for wine making and vinegar making. It’s easier than making chocolate chips cookies; you really should give it a try.:)

                • Miss DeeDee

                  — Miss Dee Dee

          • Tucker

            The part about buying beer? I’ve been hearing noises coming out of the despicably evil Communist rat turds on the left that they want to claim that people who ‘drink too much alcohol’ (quantity and frequency to be determined by the commie rats) should not be permitted to own firearms.

            This forced chipping idea is a totalitarian commie’s favorite wet dream. They can then monitor how many 6-packs of beer you purchase each week, and if it exceeds the standard that they will have imposed – then, they’ll claim that you are a dangerous boozed up redneck who can no longer be trusted to possess firearms, because you might lapse into a drunken rage and start liquidating greasy, gun-grabbing liberal maggots.

            You know, kinda like how that highly suspicious and not entirely believable incident occurred in Kansas, where that Glenn Miller character (or some patsy who ZOG recruited who had a faint resemblance to Miller) was supposedly ‘drunker than a skunk’ and decided to go on a shooting rampage that allegedly killed several people, none of whom were jews.

            Can we all see how these evil gun hating bastards like to plant seeds, in advance, to lay the groundwork for their totalitarian and diabolically evil agenda later on down the line?

            • 41MagMan


              “…because you might lapse into a drunken rage and start liquidating greasy, gun-grabbing liberal maggots.”

              And the problem with that is… ? 😉

          • jsmarik

            I’ll sell you beer.

          • ENFP

            You will have to make your own

          • Ter-ber

            Ah. Joe Six-Pack weighs in.

          • Anonymous

            Make your own.Buy from micro brewers.

        • Mich

          The monitoring is beyond bad, but

          they haven’t mentioned the little

          ‘kill switch’ yet.

          • robertsgt40


            • jerrytbg

              You can bet that it’ll be mandatory at the VA…

              That’s went the balloon goes up.

            • sixpack

              Me too. I’ve already resigned myself to that.

            • Them Guys

              What also ties into this most probobly is. They keep Re-Floating the idea of Govnt central to possess ALL 7 billion peoples DNA on File.

              Its touted as the best ID identifier yet. But they already Have fingerprints, photos, driv lic, eye retina scans etc etc used as ID’s…

              Suppose besides a Tracker chip implant to Locate all persons in seconds global wide, they also decide that very rich folks, VIP’s, Corp ceos, Politions, CERTAIN races….Certain Religious Unmentionables, who will soon need a Heart-Lung-Kidney transplants to keep alive to keep spending all that vast wealth.

              Are unable usually to remain alive while awaiting the usual methods to obtain said body parts, due to many various laws and long waiting lists of other folks also needing same Limited supply of “parts”.

              What if Mandatory DNA files Laws got enacted, And such DNA lists could then be used by computer tracking to locate a proper donor match person…Send out private contractor Black bag kidnapers, take the perfect dna donor person to an undisclosed location where there is already waiting a Surgeon capable to Removing whatever body internals and parts neded by Mr or Mrs Multi Billionaire that desperatly needs a new Heart or kidney etc.

              Think there aint plenty doctors willing to do a secret surgery for big cash payments?….Hows about in Thiland, Pakistan or India?….Even perhaps in Israel.

              How hard would that be if all global persons DNA by Law is obtained and kept on file in one central computer bank of DSNA parts donors?

              Especially since its been proven such events are already happening by same type black bag kidnappings and body parts sold on black market.

              just Two examples of suspisious ordeals were JR ewing(Dallas TV show) and David Crosby of crosby stills nash band 20+ yrs ago….Each guy TV news said needed a heart or liver….Two weeks later Wallah! by some sheere coincidence in Both guys cases even though each was listed at Bottom of waiting lists for hearts or liver transplants….By coincidence an “Car crash” occured and the Perfect Young 17 yr old specimen with Organ Donor box checked off on driver lic just happened to die, and NO others on LONG wait lists was a “match”..Except of course for them two millionaire famous guys.

              I am NOT saying either one did any covert or illeagle donor scams etc…Just that it did seem funny both are very famous and wealthy, both desperate for parts, and both got parts within a couple weeks of learning parts were needed to survive alive longer…Hmmmmm.

              Picture that magnafied a million fold if DNA files are mandated soon. Anybody who don’t believe unscrupulous various polititions or movie stars types aint willing to Pay big cash xtras for a new heart or lung or kidney asap regardless of leagalities or ethics, is not paying atten.

            • One of God's children..

              As I!!

          • 41MagMan

            Nor will they, Mich. That’s just their little secret.

        • Connie Lingus

          Two societies will emerge: The “mainstream” society, and an “underground” where people were not born in hospitals and have no chip or SSN. .gov will be constantly chasing after “outsiders” trying to bring them into the fold. And go bankrupt and collapse trying (if not before). Governments are awlays chasing the ultimate means of oppression, and end up collapsing under the weight of their own mechanisms. Hi tech systems almost always have cheap, low tech counters. Alas, this will not stop them from trying, it never does. Great evil will be perpetrated in the pursuit of oppression.

          • New Ordnance

            An “underground” where people are (present tense) born free without hospitals with no chips or SSN…

            Happening now in the nascent Alpine Republics of the American Redoubt.

            The “beast” is rapidly being exposed and the “beast” will consume itself.

            The new society must rise concurrently with the fall of the old lest we have a thousand years of darkness in the interregnum.

            • The Hawk

              New Ordnance- you the same one growing the painted mountain corn? If so, I bought some from you previously… Saving me own seed stock now, $30/lb is spendy if trying to get any amount of seed. And selecting on my own climate/pests/soil/etc…

              Or you’re not him, and I’m speaking gibberish 🙂

              • New Ordnance

                Yep. We (our family) are growers and sellers of Painted Mountain Corn Seed. That’s the only seed we sell.

                I am honored and pleased to hear that you are going forward with the Rocky Mountain Corn Project to establish and adapt the seed in your area. If enough people do what you are doing, we can lay a foundation to build a new civilization on the ruins of the old. We trust that a remnant will survive and preserve the arts of civilization so we don’t regress to the stone age.

                We feel that Painted Mountain Corn is key to survival because it is the most efficient and productive grain
                that can be grown and harvested entirely by hand, particularly in the marginal soils and harsh climate of the inter-mountain western United States. It is ideal for decentralized small land holders who are not beholden to big Ag.

                Our part-time business, rockymountaincorndotcom, is break-even in a good year and is often on life-support with other jobs in the family required to keep it afloat.
                We never planned to be a big seed company. If you guys out there develop your own seed and share, sell, barter and trade across the territory, then the project will have succeeded and we will retire from the seed business and grow food for family, friends and neighbors.

                The Project is catching fire now from the reports we have received. We pray that more people will jump on board and buy all the 2013 seed. We urge everyone who can grow anything to go all out for food independence going into this dangerous summer of 2014.

                Thanks again Hawk. We appreciate your endeavors.
                We are grateful.

                • Miss DeeDee

                  New Ordance,
                  I could’nt grow an ingrown toenail
                  if my life depended upon it.
                  Maybe your site is the one for me.
                  Take Care,
                  — Miss Dee Dee

          • Stig's American Cousin

            I read that, and I agree with you.

            But for some reason, my tongue is sore.

            Sorry…….couldn’t help myself. 🙂

          • Charley Waite

            Yeah, like in that POS movie Elysium, except the poor will get everything and the middle class will be stuck with nothing! Oh Wait! That’s NOW

          • 41MagMan

            @Connie… I can’t believe that some dickhead gave you a thumbs down for your comment. It was great, IMO.

        • the renegade braveheart

          YMWW, I understand your points, but I don’t believe mac has thrown in the towel on anything.

          • Corn chips

            All preppers will take the chip. You’ll need it to get your TP. Without TP you’ll die.

            • JayJay

              ***All preppers will take the chip. You’ll need it to get your TP***

              Not for the first 6 years…. and then, it’s old cloths; see, many take theirs to Goodwill, etc.
              I have boxes fillin with rags in the attic. When time allows, they are cut into squares. 🙂

              • the renegade braveheart

                JayJay, that’s all the more reason why everyone needs to get everything they can now while there is still time. I’m not taking any RFID chip, period!

              • Mamma D

                Yep, and wash and reuse, my kids wore cloth diapers.

            • Miss DeeDee

              Corn chips,
              I haven’t read many or rather any of your comments before. I will take the lighter side and presume you were only being sarcastic. If so, I like your comment.
              — Miss Dee Dee

          • Miss DeeDee

            I’m with you on your statement. Just the fact that Mac posts such articles long before MSM is evidence he is on top of his game. The ( or any ) article should convey both sides of any view. One or two lines about his or someone else’s thoughts that the eventual inevitablilty of mandated chip identification is under consideration is not a submissiom unto Satan. The good folks on this site are somehow tuned to their mission and will not be distracted even if they disagree with Mac or some the information he personally deems noteworthy.
            Take Care
            — Miss Dee Dee

            • Miss DeeDee

              Note — I said Good Folks

        • Mountain Trekker

          I have no intent to argue or push my Christanity upon anyone. But we like to refer back to the book “1984” which was written just a few decades ago, and it does seem to carry some weight. But I cannot understand how anyone with their eyes wide open cannot see the inspired word of GOD to be true, when all of it comes to fullfillment, and it was written Two-Thousand years ago. This is just my thought, your entitled to your own. But disregard at your own peril. Trekker Out.

          • Anonymous

            Amen Trekker…

            God Bless,

          • Norse Prepper

            Amen Trekker…

            God Bless,

          • Patriot

            I agree History is wrapping up EVIL will look like it is winning and then when you think all is over evil has won Jesus Christ will return as He said He would and take hold of evil and banish it and judgement will begin and righteousness will reign. Its coming just a matter of when. I believe it will happen in my lifetime and Im 58

        • Nimrod Hunter

          I’m with you on the “mobile Phone” issue. Who needs the infernal little doo-dads? But Mac didn’t say that; some pencil-neck Englishman named Gasson from U. of Reading said it.

          As for “Whether we like it or not this is the future.”, it IS the future for the ant-hill that we will be living in. But individuals can reject the “future”, as I certainly will. CERTAINLY will…

          The statement “To gain access to official services, you’ll need to be a verified human.” is added to accentuate the preposterous premise of the essay. I’m not even a human anymore unless I have a chip that vouches for me, you know? And once again, collectivist douches can eat a bag of dicks.

          When Mac writes “microchip RFID technology will eventually be non-voluntary”, he is anticipating Michael Snyder’s comment “And one day, this kind of technology will likely be so pervasive that you won’t be able to open a bank account, get a credit card or even buy anything without having either your hand or your face scanned first”. Michael is a Christian who is looking for the fulfillment of eschatological prophecies.

          Look how he ends up: “Our children and grandchildren – at least most of them – will likely not only submit to implantation, they’ll gladly PAY THE COSTS…”. This implies that we who are alive today will NOT submit, but that our progeny will, because they will be like cattle, bought and paid for; glued, screwed, and tattoed. As terrifying as it may be to think about that, it is likely that our children WILL gladly accept the “mark of the beast”. Most of them who are alive today are already suffering from the lack of a moral compass, and we haven’t helped much with our exemplary (not) leadership.

          • pissinwiththewind

            Well said, NH.

          • Spook89

            For NSA tracking devices (mobile phones), I use a rubber-lined 7.62mm ammo can in my rig. For commo, we use single side-band radios in our rigs and base.

        • SoapDish

          Interacting with society is easy. Open your mouth and talk to neighbors, friends, etc., etc.. I’m not bound by a phone. Call me old school, but if cell towers all went caput tomorrow, I wouldn’t shed a tear.
          I have actually heard people say they would rather die, then to be without their cell phone/services. That is a pathetic shell of a human being.
          Truly, things will get worse before getting better. Stay the coarse and keep your head in the game free Americans!!!!

          • Miss DeeDee

            Here-Here for your statement.
            The other night I was at a resturant and happen to be peoplewatching at the time. I fear for the idiotic younger generations ( I know not your age so I am sorry if I insult you ) There was a lovely young couple at a table facing eachother. Not looking at the beauty of eachother’s presence.Their cell phones in their hands were being manipulated like some sort of extended organ of their fingers. I could not resist approaching them and asking them if it was their first visit to the establishment. — YES — they both replied. Then I questioned if it was their first date together. — YES — once again. Finally I asked to whom they were texting – she nodded her chin upward — HIM– and then he replied — HER — I ended my brief visit into the brave new world of a modern day courtship. I’m so glad I am an old fart.
            — Take Care,
            — Miss Dee Dee

            • 41MagMan

              Shame, shame, Miss Dee Dee… those kids were probably having what they call sex at the time you spoke to them. lol

          • gigi garden girl

            Count me in as another low tech sister 🙂 I do not have a fancy cell phone nor any social media accounts. Yes, I am old school and I am not old. I like to talk to people, send cards through the snail mail, read books and magazines that are paper and in my hand. I have seen what you have observed–people ‘together’ but not together–just looking at their devices.

            I am getting pressure to ‘upgrade’ my phone by certain family members. I do not need a fancy phone so I am standing firm.

        • JayJay

          “To gain access to official services, you’ll need to be a verified human.”

          Interpreted–to get your welfare checks, you will be chipped.

        • lonelonemum

          This my friends is nothing less than the Mark of the Beast.

          I’ll face my judgement at the pearly gates before I’ll accept taking the mark that will doom my soul forever.

          By now you are not a self-respecting experience prepper if you haven’t learned how to brew your own tipple, but just in case you’ve just face-palmed at such a terrible oversight –

          “Booze for Free” by Andy Hamilton.

          Hopefully you’ll be able to send the grand kids foraging and have a little sumpkin, sumpkin brewing away in the shed by the week’s end. I’ve taken the trouble to trial several of the recipes in the above volume and can confirm that they work – even if you are a complete novice. It’s a must have prepper text that should sit on the same shelf as “where there is no doctor” imho.

          • sixpack

            I had to go add that one to my wish list on amazon.

        • JohnFornaro

          You’re five years old? Whoah. You write really well.

          I’m 60, and somehow manage to interact with society without a device.

        • New Ordnance

          Katherine Albrecht has been exposing chips for a long time (spychipsdotcom/katherine-albrecht)

          Mac and all here add critical mass. Keep piling on.
          Flip the light switch and watch the cockroaches scurry.
          Take their names and publish. Follow the money. Save and archive for the trials at Nuremberg II when it’s over.

        • schm0e

          it’s inevitable and you know it.

          • 41MagMan

            So is death but that doesn’t mean we have to volunteer for it.

        • Andrew P

          RFID technology is already required to drive on roads that are EZ-PASS only. Those roads are proliferating because they can be privately financed.

        • Tony

          I see no point in carrying around a cell phone.. I leave the house so I don’t have to deal with distractions from business and life.

          I only carry a cell phone on long trips, generally, and even then its a old type flip phone..

          I even sell cell phones. I have sold many smart phones.. That doesn’t mean I want to use one.

          My wife has more than one smartphone, but again, I could care less about them.

          And I am a computer programmer, complete internet and software geek and I COULD CARE LESS about having a cell phone on me.

          I see no purpose in having an RFID chip implanted..

          If you are that DAMN LAZY to pull out a credit card to swipe, you have serious issues.

          What other use will there be? Medical records? Why not carry it SEPARATE from your body?

          Why can’t you put all that info on your key chain? So atleast, you don’t have to carry it on you.

          I find this all to be complete bullshit..

        • Templar8

          All of our protests are now just Sound and Fury signifying Nothing (MacBeth) Future Gens will have an implanted tracking device with a termination date.

        • Norse Prepper

          Article linked on Drudge.

          Attaboy Mac!

        • Tamela Beckman

          I do not have a mobil phone either and have been surviving just fine. But the technology is spreading. We had to give our fingerprint to get our Six flags season passes and it freaked me out. It is the “conditioning process” for us to get used to doing business this way. The mark is rapidly approaching and if we are not raptured out before the chip implant madness takes over, how WILL WE interact with society? IF we are still here on earth and the chip is implemented we will have to drop out of work, society and trust the Lord Jesus to care for us. Or lay our heads on the chopping block. Give me the grace Lord to lay it down and not deny your Name! Amen! (even now this email will be read by those ‘trackers” and I’ll be thrown into the “terrorist” category)….

          • Susan

            Do not let anyone get your fingerprints. Nothing on your body is for sale.

          • 41MagMan

            That’s OK, Tamela. TPTB thought that Jesus was a terrorist too. I’d say that puts us in pretty good company. 🙂

        • Unknown

          i dont give a shit what it does it dont go in me period

        • DocHellfish

          I bet the left is just drooling over what they could do with this….

          • 41MagMan

            Only so long as THEY control it. If not, then they will be its greatest foes.

        • Law2001

          There are reports of those who have accepted such implants for themselves and their children on the assumption that the government is there to help them, for example, find their children if lost or kidnapped.

          Another reason people might accept an implant is for the welfare. Seems government is working hard to destroy private enterprise so they are the only provider, enforcing the central control and command like the USSR. This will be bad, a terrible tyrannical government that says, you want a place to live? food? water? you must take the implant.

          We don’t have freedom in the USA when the government can make us pay rent for our land (property taxes), when they can control and destroy companies via arbitrary regulations from the EPA, OSHA, IRS, etc. This is happening today. No wonder they are working so hard to eliminate the right to keep and bear arms.

          • 41MagMan

            “Seems government is working hard to destroy private enterprise so they are the only provider, enforcing the central control and command like the USSR.”

            Yeah? Well, that worked out well for the Russians.

        • Zachary

          Let me think: got a cell phone freshman year (because I had to work and mom was concerned. Didn’t make a Facebook until November of my Senior year (I am a senior right now.) And I interacted with people just fine before that, when it was people that were actually worth talking to of course, rather than just the standard idiot that is sadly prevalent in the people of the young generation.

        • bpante

          So are we going hto give free chips to ILLEGALS

        • rog

          Guys just think
          about immunization
          and see how the agenda
          becomes now compulsory.
          no immunization sorry
          your kid is not welcome
          in this school

          • carol

            yes God will save his people.God also would like people to gather together and stand up no mark no micro chips.goverment get it first if its so safe,nursing has taught me whats in needles dont be a sheep we have rights ,its not hitlers time over devils you can never defeat God king of all .

            we already have brain body scans from america in australia air port ,my friend went to america got scaned 4times come back to australia and died,its a cancer machine,people just walk in.even her surgeun said its like putting a cancer bomb in the body,now this even the airport men use protective gear why,we are silly humans that follow the crownd dont think about yourself repect.put the goverment people through this 5 times test it

          • carol

            well do home school,dont poisen your off spring,parents they look up to you

        • Anonymous

          Whatever happened to live, face to face conversations? No longer going to be politically correct?
          Nonsense. It’s time, if anyone is to be monitored, we rein in these out of control techies and scientists.

        • Hw00d

          more scare tactics and fear based news. there will always be an option when approached w/ one of these illegal and evil devices, simply, One barrel or both barrels?
          Also remember that these things are weak, fallible and very vulnerable. There will be counter-devices to block the RF, & devices to kill the things dead, also counterfeit ones, black market ones…….and finally realize @ the pace this Country’s going, we’ll never make it that far to see all their tyranny get fully implemented, the money junkies are going to get us all blown to atoms.

        • Anonymous

          I would not dismiss the capability of technology to subvert our lives. I recommend a site Locutions To The World. There is a timeline of revelations from Mary about world events. If you read through the past and present messages you will get a better understanding of world events. For example, Russia, Syria and the Arab Spring. Something to ponder.

      • Unreconstructed Southron

        You’re not the Lone Ranger, Walt.

        • The Lone Ranger

          Actually, we’re ALL the Lone Ranger, partner!

          – (one of) the Lone Ranger(s)

          • KY Mom

            “Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.”
            -John Dalberg-Acton

            Obamacare was never about healthcare, it was about CONTROL.

            Some even admitted it…
            When radio host Paul W. Smith asked liberal Congressman John Dingell (D-MI) why it will take the government until 2014 to fully set up the ObamaCare system.

            Dingell said this: “It takes a long time to do the necessary administrative steps that have to be taken to put the legislation together to CONTROL THE PEOPLE.”
            Source: News Talk WJR Radio with Paul W. Smith – 3/23/2010

            The economy hasn’t improved. Businesses are cutting back or closing. People are being laid off or have decreased hours. The coal mines being shut down. More cuts are planned for food stamps.

            Food and healthcare are both BASIC needs.

            In the future, under the guise of ‘healthcare’, I believe the government will push to have the chip implanted into the population. The RFID chip implanted into people would enable ‘control’ of the masses.

            The RFID chip can be used to store and retrieve data – medical, financial, location, etc.

            In the future will salaries and payments from the government (food stamps, social security, etc.) be downloaded remotely directly on to an RFID chip?

            The chip also has many ‘other’ uses. Those who control and monitor the chip, would have great POWER over the people.

            They can remotely locate and shut down a car that is many miles away – because it has a ‘chip’ in it.
            Likewise, I believe with an imbedded chip, they could locate and if desired ‘shut down’ individuals by causing a heart attack or some other fatal condition.

            The technology also exists now to plant ‘suggestions’ into your head. All that is needed is ‘direct contact’ or an implanted chip.

            Sky Deutschland has developed technology to transfer ads from train windows directly and silently into commuters’ heads.

            “Passengers leaning their head against the window will “hear” ads “coming from inside the user’s head”, urging them to download the Sky Go app.

            The proposal involves using bone conduction technology, which is used in hearing aids, headphones and Google’s Glass headset, to pass sound to the inner ear via vibrations through the skull.”

            • boyo

              Or a small high yield chargem in the device to maim if required

            • durango kidd

              It will happen one step at a time. The next step is digital money with the current system,tweaked just a bit. For the GB’s to be protected, Internet Security has to be foolproof.

              That requires quantum computing. Still some years away, but it will be installed after the next major war. Keep prepping. 🙂

            • Law2001

              Yes, the ACA, ObamaCare, is about more government takeover, no question about it. It is to spy on people more via data collection from health care providers. It is about controlling access to health care providers. It is about the eugenics agenda in the USA. It is about direct access to people’s financial accounts.

              Repeal the ACA ObamaCare now. A clean repeal. I will only vote for those who repeal it.

          • Stew Pedaso

            Or we should be. Not enough in my opinion. It’s choice a lot of people choose not to be.

          • Hunter

            Lone Ranger-


        • Walt Kowalski

          I think what Unreconstructed Southron was trying to say is…….I’m not alone.

          And I appreciate the sentiment.

          • Unreconstructed Southron

            Yes, that’s exactly what I was saying. Unfortunately, even on this site there’s a lot of ignorant folks.

            • Walt Kowalski

              Sometimes it’s hard to discern exactly what people mean. On an Internet forum you can’t read people’s intent. I try to cut slack to folks who can’t quite read between the lines.

              But then….there are a lot of trolls out there as well.

              Thanks for you comments Unreconstructed Southron. I caught what you meant right away.

      • Jerry C

        I’m absolutely amazed at how many Christians I know who call themselves “pre-tribulation believers” who will have NO problem taking this implant – why, because according to their pastors, the church is going to be RAPTURED off this world BEFORE “…the last seven years called the tribulation begins!”
        Believe me, I’ve tried to talk to these people, but it’s almost impossible to show the fallacy of a flawed fantasy to the Biblically illiterate. Sad, very sad.

        • VRF

          yep , that same type of thinking killed a bunch of followers to a man that thought the next coming was a comet.

          as far as im concerned if they followed him and killed them selves , they did us all a favor

          • sixpack

            Except for the innocent children they took with them.

            That was a loss.

        • New Ordnance

          FEMA 501c3 Clergy Response Team at work.
          See Pastor Chuck Baldwin for another point of view on Romans 13 and his sermon at the Bundy Ranch.
          From Kalispell, Montana in the American Redoubt:

          • JayJay

            Romans 13 has nothing to do with OUR I see it now.

            • JayJay

              This kills the argument for Christians to follow Romans 13..

              ‘Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been ESTABLISHED BY GOD.’

              Pfft, by Satan maybe, but God, no!!

              • the renegade braveheart

                JayJay, Romans 13 is the most misinterpreted and misunderstood scripture in all of God’s Word. These people at the seminaries and bible colleges have been misled about Romans 13. They are taught that they must obey manmade government without question and without reservation. they are taught to never question authority. They are taught to have blind, unquestioning faith in government, that government knows best, etc. Read Romans 13 for yourself. I use the King James Version since that was what I was raised on. It’s the only true version of the Bible and these other versions are just as bogus as the day is long. Romans 13 lays out certain guidelines for rulers to follow in their dealings with the people they rule over. If they violate any of the guidelines, then their rule is no longer legitimate and we are commanded to replace them. God said if they don’t follow the guidelines He set for them to follow, then we don’t have to follow what they’re saying. But this crap of “obey orders without question or hesitation” sounds like something straight out of Nazi Germany, etc. I’ve always been too independent-minded for things like that. I don’t fit nice or neat inside anyone’s box. I’ve never been a 100% “yessir, no sir, yes ma’am, no ma’am” type of person. I don’t have what it takes to be anyone’s mindless robot, good little Nazi, good little Commie, etc. I don’t change one damned thing about myself to make anyone else happy. I am me and will remain so until my last breath in this world. People can accept me like I am or reject me. It’s their choice and I never force myself on anyone. k treat everyone ese the same regardless of who you are, etc. I don’t get on eggshells for anyone. I don’t see anything special about anyone. I don’t submit to anyone who would have bad intentions toward me. Such people have a choice. they can avoid me if they want to live or just go ahead and try something stupid and pay a price for it. The morons promoting the RFID chips need to just back off altogether if they value their own lives.

                • BJ

                  you are right about Romans 13….read chuck baldwins book on it.


                  You’re stance on King James being the only true version of the bible is off. The Geneva is closer.

                  King James was a disgusting pervert!

            • Walt Kowalski

              When looking at Romans 13 and attempting to apply it to the current situation, you have to ask yourself, “What is the supreme law of the land?” The answer to that question is, “The Constitution of the United States”.

              The government in D.C. has abandoned the Constitution years ago. As such….it is the government that is acting lawlessly. Refusing to obey the tyrants in D.C. is NOT a violation of Romans 13.

              Jefferson summed it up when he said, “Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God.”

              • the renegade braveheart

                WK, AMEN to your comments.

                • Susan

                  Yes amen to your comment and to Bj , I say, the bible was was translated for King James, King James did not write it.

            • Susan

              Presidents are not chosen by God but they are supposed to be chosen by the people.In the Old testament times they were chosen for awhile by God. God never wanted us to have Kings but the people asked God for a King. But in America we chose our ruler. We also reap the consequences of those we choose. Our Constitution was of Godly design and if our Government oversteps our rights we have a right to remove them from office.

              • 41MagMan

                @Susan… “But in America we chose our ruler.”

                Do we? Or is this just a farce that is put on every 2 years to occupy us and make us think that there is a choice? Seems to me that we get to choose between two wings of the same group of wannabee tyrants. That is not choice. It is like two separate doors that lead into the same room… yes, you CAN pick which door you use, but the end result is the same. Presidents come and go but the basic policies in DC do not change. That should tell us what our choice is really worth.

        • the Wild Goose

          “but it’s almost impossible to show the fallacy of a flawed fantasy to the Biblically illiterate”

          “For this reason God will send upon them a deluding influence so that they will believe what is false,” 2 Thessalonians 2:11

          But, if pre-trib rapture is a lie (like you and I both believe) there is tremendously strong delusion helping the biblically illiterate believe in a pre-trib rapture, i.e. those who are not considered biblically illiterate selling the others on the pre-trib lie: Hal Lindsey, the late great planet earth; Tim LaHaye, the left behind series, David Jeremiah, Shadow Mountain Community Church and Turning Point; John MacArthur, Grace to You; Jimmy Swaggart, Jimmy Swaggart Ministries; Dr. Ron Rhodes, Reasoning from the Scriptures Ministries; Mark Hitchcock, The End: A Complete Overview of Bible Prophecy and the End of Days; The Scofield Bible; and anyone excluded that preaches and teaches a pre-trib rapture.

          Those mentioned above are not considered to be “biblically illiterate”, therefore they are powerfully strong delusion to those who believe the lie of pre-trib rapture that these men teach.

          Jesus warned us: “For many will come in My name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many.” Matthew 24:5 and Cory Ten Boom confirmed it in
          her 1974 letter.

          • Son of Liberty

            It gives me great pain to know you are so right on, that multitudes believe in the pre-trib rapture myth.

            It’s one of the reasons I wrote the book, DISCOVERY TO CATASTROPHE. But I am disheartened to say purchases of the book are in the dozens, not in the thousands.

            It is written as a fiction like the Left Behind series, but clearly shows from a biblical position the truth that we as Christians will go through the tribulation. I would that people would read it and see scripture after scripture stating clearly that we will suffer during the tribulation. We will NOT be zipped out of here before the tribulation happens.

            So many people’s lives have been changed as a result of reading it. I’ve been blessed to hear that, but getting copies out to the general public has been a challenge.

            Please pray for the success of these Scriptural truths.


            Son of Liberty

            • the Wild Goose

              I got a copy on the way. Looking forward to reading it.
              Thanks Son of Liberty!
              the Wild Goose

            • Buck

              I just bought the last copy of your book on amazon. I will report back. It may take awhile. Intend to fall asleep after a few pages of about any book.

              • Buck

                I tend to fall asleep after a few pages of any book. I don’t intend to fall asleep while reading your book

            • pissinwiththewind

              Thanks to you and those that are open to the biblical truth instead of man’s doctrines that cause many to fall away.

              For the reason, forementioned, God will cause them to believe that “rapture” lie, by sending them strong delusions.

              If anyone has even a hint of doubt about there being a pre-trib rapture or not; all they have to do is pray about it and ask. If they are a true believer, they will get the message, if it is God’s will for them to see and understand.

              The rapture is nothing more than a “change” from a physical/flesh body into a spiritual one. All will be changed at some point. That point, or time, is when a person dies a physical death, or if they are here upon earth, at the return of Christ.

              No “any moment”, pre-trib, “fly away to escape”, “change”; as is commonly taught by the ignorant, such as Hagee,Stone, Van Impe and many old timey preachers. This “feel-good”, holier-than-thou, message is like a cancer that has spread since the 1830’s.
              Satan has many workers right in the modern day pulpits.
              It all fits into his plan.

              Satan comes as Antichrist at the sixth trump, screaming the rapture message.
              Problem: The “true” Christ doesn’t return until the seventh trump.

              For those that dislike my posting this message and call it proselytizing, I ask; What better way to be prepped than to know the truth before the SHTF.

              • Jerry C

                @PWTW, I think you’re right on the money about the seventh trump… well said

              • Pissed Off Granny


                Great post! Any home having literature put out by these modern day “Christian Imposter Preachers” had better put it in the garbage can.

                Anyone attending the churches of these imposters or suppoorting their congregation had better see the light.

                For anyone who makes fun of Christians and their belief in the Bible this article at SHTF should give you pause. How many years ago was it written in the Bible about the MARK OF THE BEAST? It, as well as other signs and predictions we are seeing in the present should give unbelievers reason to rethink their position.

                Like PWTW said, get on your knees and ask the Lord Jesus to open your eyes. Not all will have “eyes to see or ears to hear”. Do not be one of them.

                • Feisty Old Broad

                  Perhaps YOU should get down on your knees and ask that YOUR eyes be opened… who denigrate those of the Jewish Faith at every opportunity….
                  When you get right with your Maker, you must cast such hate aside…

            • JayJay

              Son of Liberty–have you seen ‘Heaven is for Real??
              I read the book and saw a trailer today of the movie–it is on my Netflix list.
              Book is awesome.

            • Woogie

              I agree with you Sons of Liberty. I was fired last year from my job because I told my boss she will have to live through tribulation if it comes when she told me she will be raptured before these type events happen so she doesn’t have to deal with it. Unfortunately for people like her she will be saying, “My master delayeth his coming and she shall smite her servants, etc.” She already smited me.

              Nearly every TV Church program teaches this wrong doctrine, and why many won’t be prepared. Your book should educate, but as you can see, it comes with consequenses. I pray eyes will be opened.

          • the renegade braveheart

            Wild Goose, there are only 2 preachers I listen to who speak the truth and they are Pastor Chuck Baldwin and Pastor Butch Paugh. All of the ones you just mentioned are just as bogus as the day is long.

          • Hunter

            Wild Goose-

            I agree, per your list of modern “false prophets”…although its in dire need of expansion/updating!

            That said, perhaps you should reflect upon who’ll manifest, push for and finance the advertizement/marketing of the “mark of the beast” and who’re the modern purveyors of such…


            So grab a crayon & draw the “star”, which is basically an equilateral triangle superimposed upon an inverted equilateral triangle (see zionist flag for details)..


            Step 1.> -count the # of points of said star & write # on paper (=6).

            Step 2.> -count the # of small triangles about the star’s perimeter & write # beside the 1st # (=66).

            Step 3.> -count the # of sides to the inner hexagram at the center of said star & write said # beside the other two numbers (=666).

            …Hello!!!! Recognize that number????


            FYI, the same tribe that brought us (and financed all belligerents, btw)…WW-I, WW-II & soon WW-III, plus finances in your face homosexuality/pedophilia/trans-sexuality, racial tensions, all communistic & anti-Christian/anti-family/anti-humanity/anti-life/anti-US Constitution-BoR causes.

            All the while, seeking global political, economic & social domination/control over the earth’s populace.

            …via the combined application of 21st century technology, anciently scripted (see Babylonian era) and adapted to a Satanic inspired TALMUDIC DOCTRINE.


            ..a (small) case in point per their evil, please reference SCJ tribal member, Ruth Bader Ginsburg:

            ..that wicked bitch authored an opinion (pre-surpreme court days), that the age of sexual consent between adults/children be lowered to age 12!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            WTF is up w/ that???

            How ’bout 1973 Roe vs. Wade…legalizing infanticide?

            ..go down the rabbit-hole, Goose…dig deep…follow the money$$$ and the law firm/lawyers…and the justices’ voting records…per every decision taken to the point where liberty and the founder’s (and GOD’s) intentions were/are being vilified, rejected and neutered!!!


            I & others could go on for decades, chronicling the evils perpetuated on this country, its citizens and even all humanity, by certain select members of the self-chosen.

            ..but the really odd reality, inherent to their tribe, is that so very few of their nondescript/everyday brethren…ever publicly condemn or berate their degenerate leadership…for their malevolent transgressions against all of GOD’s children/followers and the rest of non-kosher humanity!



            Methinks, the GREEK interpretation website…is a circle jerk down a dead end cul-de-sac!

            See Occam’s Razor for details!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


            Otherwise…good post!

            • the Wild Goose


              I appreciate the comments. Would you say Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Rahm Emanuel, the young god father, are cut from the same cloth and otherwise on the same (evil) team?

              I do recognize the number and have ran across that specific example you made somewhere before. If the list of unrighteous causes they finance is so, then there may be a stronger connection than you first perceived with the “GREEK interpretation website”. How far down that rabbit hole did you travel?

              On Occam’s Razor:
              “The idea here is that a simple theory applies to more cases than a more complex one, and is thus more easily falsifiable. “

              If it is a circle jerk down a dead end cul-de-sac then it should be easily falsifiable based on clear evidence, i.e. the greek that the book of revelation was initially written in was wrote in all capital letters. (I’ve not found substantial proof of that), Or, John penned the book in Aramaic and not Greek (neither have I found substantial proof of that). hmmm, I guess I see it as a simple theory. Did you? Or, did it fall in the complex category for you? Just curious. I don’t want to make and then hang on to any false assumptions. Neither do I want to hang on to something as if it is so, when it is not.

              One thing’s for sure: taking the mark will represent ones willing support of unrighteousness (calling good evil and evil good) whether it is one, some, or all those items you listed: “homosexuality/pedophilia/trans-sexuality, racial tensions, all communistic & anti-Christian/anti-family/anti-humanity/anti-life/anti-US Constitution-Bill of Rights causes.”

              Thanks for the info you shared.

              • Hunter

                Wild Goose-

                Congrats, a very intelligent reply on your part.
                Good questions also.

                No! The posited theory of acceptance of “homosexuality”, solely being the mark of the beast is too simple, imo.

                Yes, homosexuality will be a “part or portion” of the mandated criteria inherent to the mark. But I cannot help but believe that accepting the mark, incorporates both a spiritual AND physical denial of the existence of GOD (in the form of the Holy Trinity), at the individual level. Call it a broad spectrum condemnation of the soul!

                Rejection of GOD is not the same as denying his existence, as rejection in many cases manifests as rebellion so to speak.

                Personally, I believe that the ‘mark’ is of Satan himself and yes, I’m sure he enthusiastically approves of faggots, but he also supports everything else related to wickedness!

                Thus I don’t see the mark as a one horse show, per a singular abomination before GOD.
                The mark will be a complete denial of him and an acceptance of Lucifer in his place, along with his baggage of evil, of which homosexuality is included.


                Yes, I lump Rahm Emanuel w/ the Ginsburg types. Ditto, David Axelrod, Valerie Jarrett, Elaina Kagan and a slew of their wicked fellow tribesman.
                They are the descendants of the pharisees, who were the enemies of GOD and man.

                • the Wild Goose

                  Good hearing back from you Hunter. You’re observations are all very valid. You’ll find no argument here. Whatever the mark is, it will be open and obvious rejection of God for those that know anything about anything, and an embracing and (your words said it best) acceptance of Lucifer in his place, along with his baggage of evil, of which homosexuality is included. Homosexuality just seems to be the most blatant, in your face of calling good evil, and evil good I’ve ever witnessed. It is even compromising “so called” christians, i.e. Rahm and the gang are unfortunately wickedly shrewd operators capable of doing much harm before all this is over.
                  IMO Ephesians 6:13 is probably the most important scripture anyone who loves Jesus and claims Him as their Lord can pay attention to these days. If someone is diligent to put on the Full Armor of God all the other important scriptures are also included.

                  Thanks for your thoughts…

                  Kind Regards,

                  the Wild Goose

                • the Wild Goose

                  I tried to embed this youTube as an example of “so called” christians seriously compromised. It looks like the embed code didn’t take. Here’s the link:

                • Hunter

                  Wild Goose-

                  Your point of stressing that the abomination of homosexuality, being a prime example of calling evil…good, carries much merit.

                  In my opinion, other than outright denial of GOD’s existence, homosexuality is only superseded by the so called ‘personal benefits of abortion/infanticide’.
                  Yet another and now mainstream accepted example of:

                  **evil is good**

                  Kudos to you!

            • BJ


              Check out Chief Justice Roy Moore in Alabama in regards to roe v. wade.

              God bless that man!!!

          • Them Guys

            Thats Not the Only strong delusions they teach!…Check out their teachings regards israel or zio jewish issues etc also!

          • Daring Man Dingleheimer
        • Shootit

          Taking the chip/number(mark of the beast) is pledging your soul to Satan(the beast). If you pledge yourself to Satan you will not be spending time in Heaven. Will the mark of the beast be forced on everyone before or after the Rapture? If you miss the Rapture you can still become a Christian, but don’t plan on living very long.

          • the Wild Goose

            All the pre-trib preachers claimed many will be getting saved during the tribulation, however Matthew 24:10 says “At that time many will fall away and will betray one another and hate one another.” NASB The bible doesn’t say may will be getting saved. So, who are you going to believe?

            • jerrytbg

              What would rick warren say? 😉

              Certainly not that we’ve been lied to for centuries…

              • Daring Man Dingleheimer

                Dude, if you ever get to heaven will you still be chucking grenades at Rick Warren, or will you be crying over the time you lost not telling people about the Lord?

            • Shootit

              Yes, the bride will be taken away. There will be very few that receive God’s eternal gift after that point in time, but it will still be possible.

            • Them Guys

              If you miss rapture can still ecome a christian?! HOW?

              Acording to pre trib “experts” (as Seen on TV!) main reason for a Pre trib event is due to the holy spirit Must first get Taken Out of earth in order for the antichrist guy to be revealed. IE bible verse that says about hes held Back etc…They say only the HS(holy spirit) can hold back antichrist so if its removed, and if it dwells or Lives Inside human christians, then if HS gets taken so to HAS human christian folks must be also taken out or pre trib raptured out…

              Well “if” that was truth(no its not) then how can anybody become a true christian AFTER the spirits removed as indwelling of Gods spirit IS the ONLY method one can be “Changed as if reborn again” into a “New creature in Christ”?…They Cannot be….Wont be….Ergo that Fact alone fully Dispells this deludional long taught(since mid 1800’s) Falsehood of Darby, Cyrus Scofield(huge falsehoods and wrong interpretations etc Published by a son of orig Rothschilds grandpa bankster zio talmudic swindler extrordinaire scammer).

              Those pastors in Cahoots with previously mentioned pharisee talmudic zios etc have Invented the myth of a 2nd set christians who only become christian AFTER a pre trib event…Because how else do they explain so many biblical verses that define or outline so many misseries and tribulations and evil stuff thats told to happen to CHRISTIANS Before Christ returns?

              There is no such thing as pre trib move to heaven 7 yrs and Wait….Then return With Jesus etc as they say.

              Caught UP to MEET the Lord event aka rapture simply means caught Up in air to MEET Him part way DOWN for Jesus…Then the DEAD in Christ(the saved ones) can get Reunited with their Souls or spirit that Left their body at death and went to reside in heaven etc…Bottom line is. Where is jesus true return TO? EARTH!…For how long? Forever!…Meet Him in Air THEN RETURN to earth WITH Him to help Him Rule etc…

              What do you not yet get? If bibles read IN context properly no need exists for any scofiled swindlers interpretations or haggees etc etc…It plainly states whats to come or be. And thats what it says.

              Only pastors teaching falsehoods like pre trib events or bless them Khazars crap, must invent ‘xtra” biblical verses, or Xtra ‘events” to make it all…”FIT” their versions…How 50-60 MILLION in usa alone can still be so delusionally fooled by likes of john hagee or scofield bible and swaggert or perry stone etc?….Amazeing!

              What they really say while doing Fake Prophetic Babbleings(they call it speak in tongues) On stage pastor babbles incoherently “Who wants to be dumbed down even More?!”

              Crowd goes Wild! Arms and hands fly to celing with great shouts of Joy!… “PICK ME PASTOR! Please Pick me!”

              Bunch of deluded lunatics eh.

              • Shootit

                Start here. There are 3 parts.

              • Daring Man Dingleheimer

                Those who have never heard, or have never had a clear presentation of the gospel will have an opportunity. But NOT those who have already heard before the Rapture. THEY are the ones who will believe “the lie.” They will not be saved.

              • AgDr

                Them Guys,
                I’m praying for a “pre-trib”, but prepping for a “post-trib”. I have heard conviencing arguments both ways. My faith is actually pretty simple and methodical. Do you know of a book that is simple, methodical, historical, with lots of evidence that I could buy from Amazon? If it gets into lots of fluff and name calling, for me, it just becomes “smoke and mirrors”. Thanks!

                • Them Guys

                  AgDR: The Only book I can recomend is the bible. That and the great acurate advice it mentiones for christians, and those who desire truth to be one.

                  Cannot recall xact verse now, but it says to fully understand Gods word aka bible verses one MUST first Pray, Seek truth and ask the Lord to empower His holy spirit to dwell or Live inside You. And then for the Holy Spirit in you to Teach you and to Reveal to You what real truth is.

                  It also states that all unbelievers, deniars of God and truth etc etc will Never be able to comprehend it, and to those type folks it, as well as God Himself, will always remain what the bible calls as “Folly”.

                  You can recognize many such folks as they are everywheres today. And they act exactly as the bible describes such fools.

                  A verse syas that they are those who spend their days filling themselves full of knowledges of the World, Ways of the worldly types, and they ever strive to gain more and more knowledge(also called higher education etc aka college and lifelong “learners students” that join college at age 18 and never exit it!)

                  Yet as they keep increasing levels of worldly knowledge, and the Ways of the Flesh…And they then profess themselves to be so filled with said knowings…

                  They have continued to move farther and farther away from Truth and God…So while in their Own eyes they are “IT”…They are “the ONES!”…in Gods eyes they have become utter FOOLS!….For only the biggest of Fools says in his heart “there Is NO God”!

                  So basically none, zero other books should ever be required if one has Gods holy spirit indwelt within him, prays for WISDOM(knowledge withOUT wisdom also describes the afore mentioned Fools type folk)…God Shall grant understanding of His words aka Bible.

                  That is what I did, and it works swell and is the Only thing that ever did work so I can comprehend what truths the bible is able to reveal to one who truely seeks it..

                  And You sound like a perfect xample of one who does so desire it!…..As for, convincing arguments both ways pre trib and after trib or whatever its called..

                  To me the definition of Real Truth means there cant be any such alternate views thats remotly valid.

                  Kinda like laws of Gravity eh…if You climb to a roof, then walk off edge or fall off edge…You do Fall and you do fall DOWN…No matter how convincing an alternate therory may sound, regardless of what professional preacher gobbly gook wordings used…Real Truth on laws of gravity says You always will Fall DOWN. Period, end of debate. Thats Real solid Truth so why any need for alternate debates?

                  Truth is elusive, most never recognize it ever. Most folks will at least once per a lifetime stumble over truth…And 99+% will fall down due to that truth stumble, then get back upright, stand there confused, see that the stumble was caused by that truth roadblock, but will calmly walk away from it as if it never occured.

                  1% seem to notice it right away and their life changes profoundly and forever. Thats the folks like Us..And once we do learn real Truths…none of us can ever again be fooled even by the greatest swindlers or scammers of satans synagouges.

                  Just Try this biblical method I outlined it as written to do and see how swell it really does work…As you Read bible verses even difficult Revelation verses all a sudden your head will seem as if truth knowledge and Wisdom is flooding in so fast you cannot keep up with it!

                  Like a “I cant describe it well…but will Know it when I see it”

                  ps: I also highly recomend to stay far away as possible from ALL/Any books or interpretations manual books if written by ANY prior here named TV pastors like hagee et al, and that includes most All of em. especially if they label selves as “jewdeo-christian” or “jewdeo christian zionists” etc. Thats 100% total delusional materials.

                  Several good posters here have posted very informative replies on many various bible issues and can be found by look back at past articles at SHTF site forums…

        • billybob

          There are no Christians, all that exist today is religious fanaticism, newageism, and liberalism. all the Christians died long ago.

          • Northern Reb

            You are wrong sorry to say.
            I’m a Christian. I’m not perfect but I try to live by the word of GOD and his laws. Not mans
            S.T.S.F.P. N.R. N.S. N.REB

        • JayJay

          I do not interpret Luke 21 as a pre-trib rapture philosophy.
          Just saying.
          I see it as saying stay strong; I’m coming back to get you; hang on and endure till the end..which is not really stated.

        • Law2001

          It seems to me that most so-called Christians are not following the written Word of Jesus or the Bible. I would agree, any one who calls them self a Christian, but accepts an implant, is not a Christian. I would go further as there many things against Christ which so-called Christians do, for example, enjoying most mass-media for which it depicts and supports things against God and Jesus, for example, violence and fornication.

      • Kulafarmer

        +1 WaltK
        If they choose #2 they better bring body bags,

        • Faith of the fallen

          I’m with you kula. If it comes down to being a slave to a computer chip I will go out as I came into this world, KICKING AND SCREAMING WITH SOMEONE ELSE’S BLOOD ON ME! You never want to corner a dangerous animal because it can be violent and unpredictable.

        • Northern Reb

          I fell the same way. I’ll go down fighting, but I’ll fill a few bags befroe they put me in one.
          S.T.S.F.P. N.R. N.S. N.REB

      • Booger

        The time will come when we all have to make a choice. Comply or resist. That time is here. Make up your mind which one it will be. It is unfortunate that it is happening in our lifetimes. However fortune favors the prepared !

      • Anonymous

        Did you see the futuristic movie with Arnold Schwarznagger(sp?) about computer chips? In the movie, the government “turned people off” when they needed to…

        Problem is, the government has already chipped people and the idiots felt important to have it done.

        Also, I heard they were going to chip drivers licenses…maybe already have.

      • the renegade braveheart

        WK, I’m with you. they’d have to kill me after I’ve taken a few of them with me. No one is taking me alive for a FEMA camp, etc.

      • ready down under

        I suppose it is possible I could be implanted with a chip. Would be a waste of time though as I would be dead and I fully intend there to be a few other corpses scattered around me first!


        • sixpack

          They’d better plant it deep, or it’s coming right back out. I’ve had to stitch myself up before—I can do it again.

      • James Kirk

        Is this part of Obamacare?

        • the renegade braveheart

          James Kirk, yes it is mentioned in the ACA, don’t remember what section, but if you look it up online, you’ll find it.

        • sixpack

          Yes, it’s buried in the fine print, towards the back…out of sight.

      • REB

        Dont know if anyone else said this but for me they have two choices also…they can leave me be or they can die…sorry but they dont get to off me…aint playing their game!

      • OffTheGrid

        This is when Liberty or Death enters….for the masses. For most, it’s been the battle cry for a long azz time.
        Make no mistake….it will be accepted widely. Squishy so called Americans would rather die than fight.
        Tick tock serfs……..

      • Tom

        You and millions of others. Leave us the hell alone!

      • not sure

        Idiocracy predicts this, only it was a tattooed bar code, plus Electrolytes!

      • Phil

        Just had a conversation regarding the erosion of out rights with friends today. 14 years in the military, four years a Chicago cop and I feel like I’m able to have an opinion on the state of our nation, and that state is we’re screwed. Take Chicago, for example. We have automatic red light tickets, speed cameras, and parking citations issued by unsympathetic DoR people, most of whom have troubled backgrounds to say the least. Our streets were pimped out by mayor Daley for 75 years to Laz yet we the citizens pay to maintain the very streets we are forced to pay a private company handsomely to utilize. With the inception of red light cameras, people said “oh no way” to speed cameras. Years later (2014), we now have speed cameras as well, under the guise of “protecting children from speeders.” At the airport I watched in disgust as an old lady was forced out of her wheelchair for a forced scan in those new machines, her body shaking as she fought to keep herself from falling. I see taxes upwards of 43% when factoring in sales taxes while I work in the ghetto with able bodied people who never had, nor will they ever seek, employment. To be voiciferous and say this is not right is to be called a racist. To be clear, I have no problem with public aid but if it is abused the way it has been is ridiculous, regardless of the color of the abuser. We accept these incremental erosions of our freedoms, financial, core amendment freedoms or otherwise. It is not right but we are all to willing to go along with this crap. Good article, bad reality.

      • Legion

        Hail Satan!

      • Dr e

        Their is no ‘S’. On the end of Revelation !!!

      • Joe

        If someone is willing to die to ‘force’ me to have it, i am willing to accommodate them!

      • shawn

        you have one choice either decide to renounce citizenship and move to where there is no chipping or live here and abide by the rules

      • Retread

        Blah, Blah, Blah. I’ll believe it when I see it.

      • Dylan

        We have 3 choices

        Give in
        Fight back
        Get out.

        I choose option 3 like my forefathers did
        in their times in Europe. Get out while you
        still can. The time of civil war is over,
        the Marxists have too much power in the
        developed countries now. Move to
        more favorable small refuge nations around
        the globe.

      • Edward Boothe

        When they come to implant something in my body, they better bring a persuader. and I mean a BIG persuader.

      • Landrew

        You will be absorbed. You will know the bliss of being with the One, Landrew who looks over you all.

        Also called the government or New World Order.

        Thank you for coming and please enter the chamber for installation.
        Have a nice day.


        Why not a 3rd option?


        why not a third option?

      • Charles Foster Malloy

        Ever hear of the black market ? How do you stop that ? The Resistance Insurgency is getting underway. See: happenings in AZ in contravention of Harry Reid et al. Join the resistance. Don’t comply. Know your fellow resistors well. And yes, brew your own beer. Load your own bullets. Buy a gun. Lock and Load.

      • Mark

        I’m with you. If they come to my door to force this on me, I will give them a few new lead implants

      • Anonymous

        I have some lead-based implants for anyone that wants to insert these implants in me.

      • AVerage Redneck Girl

        I agree with you!!!! In fact, could this be the Mark of the Beast?

      • Anonymous

        I will never let this be in my body never.. This is to much like the Mark Of The Beast spoken of in the Bible.. God wrath will be on anyone that takes it.. Bowing down to the NWO is something I will never do..This chip is part of that order called CONTROL.. I am not a animal and I don’t need to be tracked like one..

      • Cameraman

        I”d Like to Plant Something in Their Ass, but it will mostlt be Lead!!! SCREW THE NWO ….

      • Son of David

        Walt, better plan: How about 10,000 of your well armed neighbors stand with you and say, “Walt aint getting no chip and neither are we!”

      • Jim

        I’m writing software that is going to help to this. What should I do?

      • Susie

        I will not take it. It is the mark of the beast as written in the book of revelations. Be warned. Die for the Lord before they do that to you.

      • BloodNGuts

        If the Feds can make you buy a product (ie health insurace) then I’m sure the Feds can make you buy an implant and ram it up an orifice of yours…

      • Jesus is Lord

        I going with plan B myself.

        Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

      • troutwd

        First we must get the PUPPET MASTERS (Rothschilds ,Soros ) …Then we must get the PUPPETS ..(Obama and administration ,Merkel,Hollande ,E.U. N.W.O.

      • Anonymous

        Yet requiring an id to vote is racist, chipping people is what?

      • Anonymous

        Yet requiring an id to vote is racist, chipping people is what?

      • Jiggly poo

        They are ready to murder, do not doubt that so prepare to defend yourself

      • Anthem

        I predict there will be a black market for chip removal in the future!

      • Robb Cobb

        Who in God’s name are the 13 downvoters??? Holy crap, I don’t understand that mindset.

      • Joyce Pennington

        My dog has a chip “its the mark of the beast”” he is a beast and its there for man to find him. But I do not need a beast chip, I was lost and Jesus found me, I’m not lost. I work hard, worked hard all my life… live paycheck to paycheck…the government is giving away too the witch giving away the apple…its coming folks, something horrible is coming. Revelations stated we will not be able to buy or sell without the mark of the beast.

      • Yipper

        I’m with you. Live Free Die Free.
        If you don’t stand for something you’ll did for nothing.

        • Yipper

          If you don’t stand for something you’ll die for nothing.
          misspelled die on the last post.

      • Vin


      • Badwhisky

        The end of days. Anyone that thinks 24/7 monitoring is a good idea should spend a month or 2 in China.

      • Anonymous

        They will die trying to chip me. I have 55000 rounds of ammo. Bring it on. My family of five can all shoot. Bring it and lose it!

      • Anonymous

        Cut the chip out.

        Stuff it in a cats ass..

        Light cats tail on fire in dry field.

      • Anonymous

        You poor dumb fuck

      • Kraig

        I’m with ya. We really need to start organizing, so we can execute these globalist scumbags.

      • Wak up call


      • Anonymous

        Yep. No mark or chip going into this body without a firefight. So phckoff.

      • ipmala


        • Mr Twitch

          If you were smarter, you’d pay more attn to the folks fingering these finger puppet, Holder and Oblabla.
          You really need to wise up if you’re going to survive…gluk

      • cd

        Pretty sure all those who signed for Obama care would be asked to have the RFID implanted under the pretense of, “we want to provide our citizens with the most realtime service. This chip will help us serve you better and cut down on healthcare costs.”

        Who could refuse to that ?

      • Mr Twitch

        Yes, the same people that fight for abortion rights are the types behind this, taking away your right to choose the implant. Hypocrisy!

      • ewild

        Good luck getting that enforced on everyone if they can’t even pass a law mandating people get a simple I.D. card to vote.

      • rob_adk

        oh theres an option alright but most will be cowards when it comes time to die honorably. can u?

    2. Stew Pedaso

      I live in the woods for the most part, I brew my own beer, I make my own honey for mead, but in all seriousness…how can it be the “mark” if it is forced on us…I was under the impression you had to accept it. If it refers to Corp America as the beast and we accept the chip so we can use its stuff then maybe remember what the Hopi have said. Those who forget their Mother are doomed to die. At the risk of repeating myself EAT THE WEEDS!!!!!

      • KY Mom

        36 Ways to Reduce Stress

        1. Pray

        2. Go to bed on time.

        3. Get up on time so you can start the day unrushed.

        4. Say No to projects that won’t fit into your time schedule or that will compromise your mental health.

        5. Delegate tasks to capable others.

        6. Simplify and unclutter your life.

        7. Less is more. (Although one is often not enough, two are often too many.)

        8. Allow extra time to do things and to get to places.

        9. Pace yourself. Spread out big changes and difficult projects over time; don’t lump the hard things all together.

        10. Take one day at a time.

        11. Separate worries from concerns. If a situation is a concern, find out what God would have you do and let go of the anxiety. If you can’t do anything about a situation, forget it.

        12. Live within your budget; don’t use credit cards for ordinary purchases.

        13. Have backups; an extra car key in your wallet, an extra house key buried in the garden, extra stamps, etc.

        14. K.M.S. (Keep Mouth Shut). This single piece of advice can prevent an enormous amount of trouble.

        15 Do something for the Kid in You every day.

        16. Carry a Bible with you to read while waiting in line.

        17. Get enough rest.

        18. Eat right.

        19. Get organized so everything has its place.

        20. Listen to a tape while driving that can help improve your quality of life.

        21. Write down thoughts and inspirations.

        22. Every day, find time to be alone.

        23. Having problems? Talk to God on the spot. Try to nip small problems in the bud. Don’t wait until it’s time to go to bed to try and pray.

        24. Make friends with Godly people.

        25. Keep a folder of favorite scriptures on hand.

        26. Remember that the shortest bridge between despair and hope is often a good “Thank you Jesus.”

        27. Laugh.

        28. Laugh some more!

        29. Take your work seriously, but not yourself at all.

        30. Develop a forgiving attitude (most people are doing the best they can).

        31. Be kind to unkind people (they probably need it the most).

        32. Sit on your ego.

        33. Talk less; listen more.

        34. Slow down.

        35. Remind yourself that you are not the general manager of the universe.

        36. Every night before bed, think of one thing you’re grateful for that you’ve never been grateful for before.

        TRUST IN HIM

        • Stew Pedaso

          I think one of the hardest things to do on your list is to tell someone No…you want to be helpful to people but people (mostly myself) need to learn to say NO.

          • Daring Man Dingleheimer

            I’ll recommend a great book dealing with the subject of not being able to say no: “Boundaries.” It’s pretty good, written by Christians. Practical and helpful.

        • VRF

          you forgot
          37. go to the range and blow some holes in some shit!

          • KY Mom

            LOL! 🙂

        • Archivist

          When I was working, more and more tasks were put on me. Whenever I felt it was too much, I told the manager that it was too much and some of it needed to be done by someone else. The manager would then give some of my tasks to someone else. She knew I could blow a gasket any time and walk out. I worked there almost 20 years.

          • the renegade braveheart

            Archivist, I can relate to that. Especially if some black employees refuse to do anything and it gets dumped on me just because of race and gender. I don’t mind pulling my own weight; that’s how I was raised. But when I started saying I’m pulling ‘lazy black boys’ weight’ for them, well someone thought my remark was racist. I told that someone that’s how I view the black male employees because they didn’t make a good impression on me. Even the manager agreed with me ‘in private’. But nothing happened to them because of something called ‘civil rights’.

            • Hunter

              -NOTE to Braveheart-

              In their case (Negros)…its termed “SNIVEL RIGHTS”

        • the renegade braveheart

          Ky Mom, I already follow those guidelines except for #30 to some degree. the only people I don’t forgive are Haitians, especially the one who ran over my wife. I know, I know, we should try to keep our hearts free of hatred, but in my case no can do.

        • sixpack

          “7. Less is more. (Although one is often not enough, two are often too many.)”

          Kinda defeats the prepper mandates, doesn’t it?

          Maybe “7. Less is more. (Although one is often not enough, two are often not enough either.)”

        • troutwd

          As long as “HIM” is not the NSA and other N.W.O. filth…. My God is Jesus.

        • troutwd

          No.14 ….. I will be a “SHEEPLE” …. I will act for my Food .

      • New Ordnance

        Stew, Good!
        We are developing independent food supplies and trade networks to feed the free force (FREEFOR) up here in the free states of the American Redoubt. We aim to create a
        beast-free/leviathan-free/chip-free civilization post SHTF.

        If yawl don’t want to take “the mark” or want to be “dechipped”, head on up here or learn how to do it in your area of operation. For more detail, see the essays about the Rocky Mountain Corn project here: RockyMountainCorndotcom.

        • Stew Pedaso

          I’ll have a look thanx

        • BJ

          Would love to move there…….

          Not enough work, at least good paying work and real estate is high compared to other places, like say the U.P where you can get 40 for 40.

          • Stew Pedaso

            U have a link for a deal like that?

            • BJ

              I like an average of only 11 people per sq mile for when I get there, so I don’t want anyone else thinking about moving there….LoL

              Na, Craigslist has a lot of deals like that as well as land and farm dot com

              • Stew Pedaso

                sweet…thanx for the direction to start…me Imma troll near Ossineke on 23. would love to snag square up there even if just to hunt.

                • BJ

                  dont be taken up good property just to have a place to come and hunt ya troll 🙂

            • wrong


              Lots of land for sale in the u.p. Some of it may have some lower ground on it but in my experience you can find lots of good property up nord. Bring your snowshoes.

              • Stew Pedaso

                Made my first pair this last winter lol.

        • New Ordnance

          Remember the episode from “Catching Fire” in “The Hunger Games” when the FREEFOR rescues Katniss Everdeen?
          The first thing they did was cut the chip out of her arm.

          Well, I don’t always use my K-Bar. We have Docs up here too. lol

          • t-zulu

            a lil thought if “forced” to take chip , remove it and place under Band-Aid when needed lol

            • Wilma

              If you remove it and save it for later use, you could collect and also trade some of them.

              • CBGB's

                People would start digging chips out of dead bodies and selling them on the black market. If you were a wanted man you’d just buy another guys chip and implant it instead.

                • CBGB's

                  In fact, innocent people might get murdered for their chips.

                • sixpack

                  If they’ll kill you for your tennis shoes, they’ll kill you for a chip.

              • Miss DeeDee

                I’ve got 35 Cabbage Patch Dolls
                ——– 5 Beenie Babys
                —–35,000 Pokemon Cards
                —- A sixpack of Billy Beer
                and a host of other collectables
                Willing to trade for New to slightly used Human RFID chips.
                No PayPal – No Cashiers Checks and no shipping to Nigeria.
                Thank You
                — Miss Dee Dee

                • Patriot

                  That’s why the chip may be literal but not the “MARK” of the bible. The mark of the bible is spiritual, which is worse! This is rather easy to prove. A literal chip would be to easy to tamper with as is discussed here. A spiritual mark as indicated in REV is the mark of Satan to whose sold out to him. Read Rev 18:18 and then 14:1 you see the difference?

                  [email protected]

                • Anonymous

                  Who with a chip was innocent?

        • JayJay

          And will this be the result of not being chipped?
          The prepared binding together as a community?

          Prep, Pray, and Prep more.

          • sixpack

            At least until someone snitches the community out and they send in the stormtroopers, like Ruby Ridge or Waco…or the rajneeshi’s for that matter.

      • the Wild Goose

        “how can it be the “mark” if it is forced on us…” Good point Mr. Pedaso!
        Not being allowed to buy or to sell unless one takes the mark will be strong coercion to receive the mark. In a manner of speaking one could claim it was forced on them. But, they won’t hold you down and make you take it against your will although you will be considered a pariah if you choose to refuse it.

        Choosing to reject or accept the mark of the beast will be the toughest rock and a hard place some have ever found themselves in. Especially those who have been counting on a “Pre-trib” rapture to save them from any need to prepare for worse alternatives. Those who believe in a “Pre-trib” rapture, don’t believe they will ever be faced with the decision to accept or reject the mark, because they are supposed to be gone. That will make it extra hard to refuse it, when they find they are still here and accepting it will be the only means they have to continue to buy and sell.

        “And he causes all, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free men and the slaves, to be given a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, Revelation 13:16

        I personally believe the claim that the RFID chip is the mark of the beast is a red herring for these reasons:
        1). an RFID chip like a social security number is values neutral. It doesn’t care if you live a righteous life or love indulging in debauchery. The RFID technology is like a firearm in that it can be used for good or evil depending on who is behind the trigger so to speak.
        2). Revelation 13:16 clearing states that “the mark” will be on the right hand or forehead. Instead of allowing them to place the RFID chip on their right hand or forehead, a person simply has to state that they have serious religious concerns about those two locations and they would simply prefer it to be placed in their left buttock or some other location besides the right hand or forehead. The RFID chip won’t care and will still function properly even if it is not on the right hand or forehead.
        3). The bible says “… “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand,” Revelation 14:9 So, many who take the mark will worship the beast and what the mark signifies. Many will be proud to display the mark that shows their allegiance to the beast. So, I believe there will be more to what the beast and his mark entails other than just a practical need to continue to enjoy the convenience of the corporate world, e.g. ability to shop at Home Depot or anyplace else that won’t want your money if you do not take the mark.

        You can find practically an endless amount of arguments for what or who the beast or the mark is; from the RFID chip to Nero, the papacy, or Islam, but everyone should consider this linked short article: Is it “666 or χξς”

        For those who read and know their Bible and love Jesus as their Lord, there will be no doubt that accepting the real mark of the beast, whatever that may prove to be, will be like purposely spitting in the face of Jesus the Man from Nazareth, and all He signifies.

        “But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved. And, this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.” Matthew 24:13&14

        p.s. Previously I have long believed that the implementation of the mark of the beast would require a cashless society and technology like the RFID chip to make it happen. But, I no longer believe that based on resent examples in our news. Those who worship the beast will be fanatical, and they will hate you for not also worshiping their precious beast. “Then they will deliver you to tribulation, and will kill you, and you will be hated by all nations because of My name. Matthew 24:9
        “The Criminalization of Christianity” by Janet L. Folger can shed more light on the matter for those who want it spelled out more clearly.
        “Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you will be able to resist in the evil day, and having done everything, to stand firm.” Ephesians 6:13

        • the renegade braveheart

          Wild Goose, that’s a very interesting analysis you give and nothing in it I can dispute.

        • sixpack

          You know what the difference between a “pariah” and a “piranha” is?

          A pariah slinks off into the shadows, alone.

          Piranhas school together and bite back.

        • Patriot

          Agreed the mark of Rev is NOT likely literal. It has to be spiritual. It would take too long to explain why I believe this. The spiritual mark is binding and fits the scriptures a literal one does not. [email protected]

          • Patriot

            Also this is not to say there will not be a literal chip waiting for human beings to be implanted in fact I think it is going to happen. The implantation is probably going to happen but it is the one of the bible without question NO!

            You just have to think it through. Read the scripture. Its says ALL small great rich poor…
            Does that mean all-its say ALL. The do bushmen in africa recieve it? a new born baby?
            What about someone in a body cast?
            Plus the chip can be tampered with taking out traded sold etc. I could go on and on.

            The mark or Rev is spiritual and believe me spiritual is worse! Well its time to church Ill check in later.

    3. eppe

      Scary days ahead….

      • Prepared Pastor

        A couple key verses are missing from this article:
        A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and its image AND receives its mark on their forehead or on their hand, they, too, will drink the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. They will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb.”
        – Revelation 14:9-10

        One cannot unknowingly condemn themselves. Satan cannot overpower the blood of Jesus on a technicality.

        • TheGuy

          Actually? Kinda sounds a lot like he can given how that verse strictly reads.

          An adult has a choice. A 3 year old that they chip? How ’bout that one?

          I fail to see an exception made anywhere in there. Just like I’m sure there had to be at least 2 or 3 half-decent people in Soddom and Gamorrah before it got tactical-nuked. Didn’t matter. Collateral damage.

          Now, is the verse correct as to the consequences? Oh. Yes. Certainly at least in this life. Sucks to be that three year old.

          • sixpack

            I would have a hard time worshiping a God who would condemn a child, for an assault on his person, of which he had no choice or say in.

            He would still be innocent of “accepting” the mark. God judges us on our intentions as well as our actual deeds.

          • TheGuy

            That’s why I’m saying.

            I believe there is a God. I also believe he’s not what I think he is. He’s not some guy or anything.

            Do I believe the Bible is correct on the consequences of actions, EVEN IF you’re just innocently ignorant (meaning, literally, having no idea… not the bad connotation of “ignorant”)? I sure do. God knows when I was a kid I bucked it enough to see first hand just how right it is. You and every one you are connected to will get very very VERY extremely horrifically bad consequences. It’s infectious too. Anyone dumb enough to stay in your immediate vicinity will become infected, just as if it’s a disease. This is why you see people ditching bad behaving people. It’s utterly heartless. And utterly NECESSARY.

            For all practical purposes, that tells me what I NEED to know.

            Making sense of it in terms of the whole “higher meaning” behind it is still utterly challenging (to say the least) for me.

            Then again you can’t get down on a… Being… for fictional situations that do not presently exist. I ASSUME (given what I feel about the infectious nature of bad behavior)… that He wouldn’t stop it, and those kids would grow up to be a-holes… and you’d end up with a society of a-holes.

            Then again I’m not so sure we’re not 90% of the way there already.

        • Them Guys

          So far it appears their main plan to worship the beast and show allegience to it will be an acceptance not just of the implant chip id but to also accept Their new law system. And that looks to be what They call “NOAHIDE Laws” for the goyims. TWO seperate law systems…Noahide law for goyims(non talmudic judaics) and the talmudic judiac Law aka “Torrah” for the rest, aka non goyim jewish talmudic and zionists.

          And all the goyims only get to choose one. Thats the Noahide laws system.

          There is no such law system as noahide laws. But it does exist as reality in Their Minds. Theirs being talmudics minds. They are who invented that fable similar to the way they invented many other fables and Myths. And they Are working and planning fevereshly to Make noahide laws a real reality of nwo laws for all of earth.

          Its likley they are going to demand You first agree to Noahide laws first before they allow you an implant chip that will act as Proof you are “ONE” with the global new ager society of Goyim Kommies Cult.

          it cant be forced or it wont count biblically as the mark.

          But a new system of “Gobal NWO Jwo Laws” can be. or be required to recieve their Mark chip.

          Plus ALL Law violations listed in Noahide laws carries a mandatory Death penalty when convicted, and it is always Death By Decapitation!…Dont bible state Saints get heads cut off etc…It…All…..FITS! All of Their Past, Present and future plans perfect.

          Many current deluded folks everywheres today would do well to put away their Old testement prophetic verses or books for a while, and Read/Study what the enemys aka antichrists Books and other many vast writings state for a deeper look see into what Their minds think, what They desire, what They plan on doing.

          Because besides THE antichrist guy…ALL who Refuse to admit to Who Christ really Is etc are also “antichrists” as PER John the Apostle bible writer, and maybe Paul also(?)…Who or which group is the main opponents of Jesus Today?….And…Since they first learned of Who He was etc?….Who caused and Demanded His Murder?

          And who has constantly Killed off or Caused Others to assist in the mass killings of Christians ever since the Year…34 AD or so?(Hint whos group got Booted Out of jerusulem in 70 AD?…Bingo!)

      • lena

        Not scary, expected.

        You guys seriously couldn’t see this coming given cell phone tracking, onstar car tracking and the TSA essentially becoming people herders.

        It doesnt bother me because i am already sure if someone wants to track anyone in the usa down and find them, they can do it in one day, given all the technology that reports your activity today.

        Regardless of if this chip becomes mandatory or not, every person’s privacy in the usa is with 10 years of being gone. Your house will report your activity and what you’re eating and your job will know if youre not at your assigned station working,

        your kids’s kids will never know freedom unless they work on a farm.

        • pissinwiththewind

          good points lena,

          I feel that the timing could be more like ten months, instead of ten years though.

    4. Not a psychic

      This may be a dumb question, but: WHEN WILL THE COLLAPSE HAPPEN?? in a week? month? year? Any ideas?
      Thanks to all of you for all your help. You are all in my prayers. Jan

      • Me here

        NAP – No one really knows, but if you are like most of us and have one ear to the tracks, you can see that we are several feet into it now. I expect that things will rapidly continue to deteriorate around us. Just try to prepare as best you can for when your “dollars” won’t be accepted anywhere (if you even have any!) and for when people become so agitate over the planned divisions by our Government that they lose it and the riots start. You do not want to be out hunting for food at that time. Keep in mind, as this Obamacare garbage deepens in our lives, that alone could trigger an all out collapse.

        Hope this helps!

        • pissinwiththewind

          I’m not a date setter by any means, however;

          After studying prophecy and TPTB intentions, along with many other indicators, for the past 15 years; I see the indicators ramping up and lining up exponentially.

          If there is any truth to the four blood moons prophecy, and i believe there is; we could see much tribulation and it culminating into a economical/financial collapse of society within the next twelve months.

          If, and it’s just that, “if”, things continue to worsen, we could see Antichrist come on the scene before summer 2015.

          “If”, the Lord tarries, and the “blood moons” along with the Solar Eclipses, just move us into a more severe tribulaton period; we could possibly see another 17 or 18 years of this messed up world, before the next set of four blood moons with a Total Solar Eclipse, before the Saviour returns.

          It is my opinion, based on studies, that the tribulation period started in September 2008. So, I will be watching with much anticipation for our Redeemer in September or early Oct. 2015.

          The most important thing is to be prepped as though you will see it happen at any moment. No one really knows when their time in the flesh is about to end, or when they will have a personal financial collapse, so it is better to be prepared, pronto!

          • Me here

            I certainly hope Jesus returns as soon as you say!

      • Indy Colts

        @Not a psychic

        I believe the collapse will happen whenever consumer confidence is this whole fiat system is revealed. No one can tell you when it will happen but I put it to you like this.

        I have 4 tires on my truck, but I still carry a spare just in case. Thats my logic behind prepping.

        GOD BLESS Jan

        • sixpack

          My prediction is, it will come when it comes. I just need to be ready whenever that is.

      • anonymous

        It could happen overnight but most likely continue to be the slow descent into hell that it has been since ’08…
        For some it has already happened when they lost their jobs, homes and lifestyle. Others are hanging on by a thread.

        • The Stig's American Cousin

          The descent started much earlier than that. It just took a while to realize it.

      • SterlingSilver

        June 16th, 2015.

      • SterlingSilver

        June 16th, 2015.

        • t-zulu

          [email protected]% LOL why the f*ck am I laughing?

      • slingshot

        Tomorrow, I assure you.

      • Northern Reb

        I have no clue. I have been prepairing for it since 1974 or 75. That is why they call me a Prepper, back in the 70’s I was a Survivalist!!! I do KNOW that things are at the point of NO RETURN.
        Over 17 trillion in debt, a very small millitary, an inapt government, 50% entitlement population. unsecured borders, erosion of the constitution, government and the people turning there backs on GOD.
        If you add all this up it leads to a collapse of society.
        All one has to do is look at history and usually two or three of these thighs would bring down a nation.
        The U.S.A. has them all.
        Very sad rough road ahead and there is no turning back because we have burnt all the bridges except one.
        May GOD forgive us and help us through this mess.
        S.T.S.F.P. N.R. N.S. N.REB

        • NCjoe

          If people are turning their backs on God, it can only be because you and your fellow Christians are not doing your job of fulfilling the great commission. If you and your ilk did you job and truly lived by your professed beliefs, the “turning their backs on God” would never happen. So, in short, live my your prepper mantra of personal responsibility and accept the responsibility for your failure and stop blaming others for your failures.

          • Northern Reb

            You can lead a horse to water but you can not make them drink.

      • ready down under

        Not a psychic/Jan

        When “they” can no longer keep kicking the can down the road and they have to cut deeply into (or out altogether) what the “gimmedats” aka parasites take for granted. That’s when the riots will start.

        Bear in mind we can always be blindsided too – a massive and civilisation destroying pandemic is bubbling away in various forms – bird flu, SARS, MERS, Ebola – in various places in the world. There are plenty of nutcases – Iran, North Korea – who would love to nuke us and would if they could and to hell with the consequences.

        And of course there is the Russian Bear who isn’t real happy with the West right now.

        An EMP or natural solar flare could also stuff things up.

        I enjoy prepping. It doesn’t rule my life though. Still enjoy family and friends, hunting and fishing.


      • JayJay

        I will just say most here agree–IF you ain’t prepped, you best be starting!! 🙂

        • JayJay

          I just always come back to this one theme.
          WHY? Yep–why did I get up one morning and decide I needed to start preparing for famine, draughts, floods, aerosol sprays, Monsanto damaged foods, food riots, all the things leading to food/supplies scarcity?
          Was it online headlines?? Nope.
          Was it tv?? Nope–don’t have one.
          Was it neighbors’ urging??LOL. Nope.
          Then why?? and why your calling to store food and supplies??
          Was it a higher calling? Are we the intended survivors of this?

          Food for thought.

          • Northern Reb

            Your questions Why?
            Well I really don’t know other than after my 1st son was born in 1975 and even more after my second son was born 1977. I told myself that they would never want for anything that they had to have to survive.
            I thought it was a father thing, but after the grow up I still will not let them want for anything they have to have.
            I have been bless, I have had some hard time and money was very short and I thought I was going to lose everything, but we never went without what we had to have to live.
            Am I ment to survive this crap that is coming at us or is this just what has to be done. Maybe it is both.
            If I don’t survive the preps I have I know will take care of my family and friends for awhile. If this my lot in life so be it, I know I did my part.
            I have a felling it just might be a higher calling.
            We all have a talent and maybe we are using it like we are suppose to.
            Now you can add that to your questions!:-)
            S.T.S.F.P. N.R N.S. N.REB

          • sixpack

            For me it was the couple of days I spent hungry, with no way to get anything to eat. I swore it would never happen again.

            • Ghost Rider

              For me it was a book I read while my wife was pregnant with our first child. I vowed that I would do everything and anything to survive any event that may come our way.


      • CBGB's

        I think the collapse will happen the summer or fall of 2015, but prices will really start rising by this fall so prep as much as you can before then.

      • Daring Man Dingleheimer

        Like the man falling off the 100 story building when he reaches the 75th floor: “So far, so good.” It’s happening all around us. Jesus said, “When you see all these things, lift up your heads, your redemption is drawing near.” Just be ready, because “at an hour when we think not, the Son of Man returns.”

    5. ArmedPatriot

      At what point do we go on the offensive? It’s getting close. Don’t you think?

      “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. … God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion; what country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms.” — Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787

      • Me here

        Very! 🙂

      • Northern Reb

        I thought I could smell burnt gun powder this morning.
        Yes it is getting very close.
        I do say that with a sad heart.
        S.T.S.F.P. N.R. N.S. N.REB

    6. Who WuddaThunkIt

      This Microchip Implant will be the First Step in line, as you enter the FEMA Camp, and just before the 2nd step which will be a table of Sandwiches. Prepare my friends get your “I’m NOT Going to a FEMA Camp “Bug Out Bag” ready.

      • slingshot

        Free bag of potato chips, when you get chipped.

        I can see the lines form now. ;0)

        • sixpack


        • wrong

          probably throw in a coke and it’s a deal for some

      • ridiculous

        my friend has one in his right forearm.. he is in the army and told me about it..
        I thought he was just messing with me, I tried to feel it, but couldn’t. his girlfriend says hes serious…
        he said its like a piece of rice. now I see this article, that chip looks a lot like a piece of rice..

    7. VRF

      Something tells me they will have a very hard time sticking that in me

      how do i know this?, well…. its very hard to stick a needle in the arm of a man holding a .45 to your HEAD!

      • JayJay

        VRF–what if we don’t know??
        Which is why I refuse to have a vaccine/shot of ANY kind.
        When Gene had his second seizure, his nurse completing his paper work after getting settled in his room asked if he had his vaccine—I asked what she was referring to–and she said flu shot—I..went..ballistic…on her.
        And stated if he had any sort of injection/vaccine there would be a law suit they didn’t want.
        He’s 65 and never had the flu and never had a flu shot.
        End of story.
        And I drill that in Gene for me also.

        • JayJay

          Yes, I do know he had injections during carotid surgery.
          Nothing I can do about that.

        • VRF

          I think I’d be looking at every injection I get from this day forward..its small but not microscopic #1 the needle would be a lot larger in diameter than usual , #2 I think you’d see it in the fluid of the needle

          maybe its time to start asking “Is that all thats in there doc”? because if not sure dont want to get sued now would you?

          come right out and tell them..if you stick anything in me other than that medicine..I’ll kick your ass and all of your help

          Like I said before..its very difficult to be the boss over someone holding a .45 to your skull telling you you better behave

    8. Who WuddaThunkIt

      There are 2 types of people out there. Those who just want to be left alone, and those who just won’t leave you alone.

      • Unreconstructed Southron

        And many times the latter is also the former.

        They’re generally called “hypocrites.”

        Down here we usually call them Damn Yankees.

        • BadAmerican

          nuff said


          • Mich

            Not all Yankees are Damn Yankees, fellas.

            A whole lot of them have a better head

            than that. For many, being from the north

            is only a matter of geographical birth.

            • Nimrod Hunter

              I know what you mean, Mich. I was born in the North (Dallas). I got down here in the Big Thicket as soon as I could, just the same.

        • Confederate

          Damn LIBERAL – PROGRESSIVE Yankees. You were only two words short.

        • REB

          …some of my best friends are yankees….then theres them damned ones…they generally work for the govicorp….

        • Daring Man Dingleheimer

          Good night man! Do you have to try to divide the majority of us in the North from believers in the South who basically have no idea what war you’re still trying to fight? Can’t we all stay together with a few opinions without infighting over who won or didn’t win the Civil war?

    9. FreedomFighter

      We are Borg. You will be assimulated!

      • Me here

        That’s exactly what this nonsense feels like. Thanks for the laugh.

      • Unreconstructed Southron

        No doubt, FF.

    10. Indy Colts

      I believe this will be used as a security measure in merchant transactions. Zombies will take the chip after being fed the concept of identity theft and loss of card data. PCI (payment card industry) will require these types of payments due to the data breaches like target.

      Remind anyone of the mark of the beast??? I need not type threats but I assure you that me and my family will not accept this evil control chip from the NWO.

    11. KySSG

      Not going to happen. No way.

      Try to implant me or mine with that chip, and I’ll be doing a little implanting of my own. I can guarantee my implants will be moving a lot faster.

      KySSG . . . out.

    12. Y'all Beware!

      What a Hoot!

      Hackers will then have me as:

      White Caucasian of African American racial race

      Born in 2020 with the same eyesight

      No know rights from the 1st through 10th amendment

      No knowledge of the list of the thirty-three amendments to the United States Constitution

      Does not have any representative, relative or person that cares

      Actively questions – What is congress for? Who am I? What am I here for?

      However, does know what TP is for and knows how to use it

      Is able to vote six times after death

      With the new dildo implant, will vote six times before birth

      Y’all Beware! Keep some Neodymium magnets handy.

      • sixpack

        and you can get neodymium magnets from a computer hard drive…desktop 3.6 inch is the best bet because the magnet’s bigger than the laptop sized ones.

    13. Mountain Trekker

      Do you ever wonder if everyone else is seeing the same thing on their screen as you are. Question! Right below where it say’s Comment (#) Join the discussion. does your screen show a Amazon Add of a Book By Tom Hutto titled Touching the Wild. The reason for my question is that I made a comment about his book The Light in High Places a few days ago and I’m wondering why this add is on here, and if I’m the only one seeing it. I’m not promoting his books, just wonder about these invasive things we call computers. Trekker Out. Wonder Who’s Watching!

      • VRF

        not on my screen

        • Ghost Rider

          MT; “who’s watching”… they all are watching. the .gov, the vendors, mac (no offense mac). You can’t be online without someone knowing.

          My screen shows an ad for metlife. And shocker… I just renewed my life insurance last week. Coincidence? Nope.


      • anonymous

        Nope – mine is a Victoria Secrets ad because it’s the last thing I did on the Internet purchase some underwear. They are tracking your searches and interests and giving you ads to match! They know what you’re up to! They follow you everywhere!

        • Skeptic101

          I’ve got just two words to remind everyone that there are no boogymen, no NWO conspiracies, no Big Brother:
          EDWARD SNOWDEN. A 29 y/o contract employee walks out of NSA HQ with all it’s secrets-REALLY! It show that these morons couldn’t find their own asses with two hands and a flashlight, then they sure as hell aren’t going to be able to track 330 million people when they can’t even spot one kid stealing from right under their noses. It’s all smoke and mirrors like the Wizard in the Wizard of Oz. They (TPTB) want all of us to think that they know and control everything. It’s all a con game and now they know we know is all bullshit. Snowden walks out free and clear with everything, a rancher in Nevada and his friends chase off armed government thugs, gun owners in Conn. and N.Y are refusing to register their guns by the tens of thousands, and millions more are just not signing up for Obama Care. The dam is cracking all over and these folks who wants us to think they are in charge know that they’re loosing ground every single day. So no one is getting chipped unless they’re hardcore welfare recipients. They are terrified of us and what WE may do. I think they’re prepping themselves and finding places to hide and ride out the coming chaos because they all know that they’re on a short list of traitors to this Republic.

      • Grandee

        not on my screen–guess you are being tracked 🙁

        Back to the garden. Southern middle tennessee is just right for planting at the moment.

      • jim in Va.

        yup,noticed it right next to the Viagra ads!

      • IL mom

        Whatever you looked at recently on Amazon or other websites is what is chosen to advertise to you.

        • sixpack

          I use “hidemyass” software, so they can’t track me if I don’t want to be followed by ads. Firefox also has an add-on called “https everywhere.” HTTPS Everywhere is a Firefox, Chrome, and Opera extension that encrypts your communications with many major websites, making your browsing more secure.

          Here’s the EFF dot org download link

        • Miss DeeDee

          IL mom,
          Correct you are. I had been looking for a new vehicle thus visiting Automobile WebSites. Low and behold I have been swamped with Car advertisements as lately.
          — I think I will look on line at some butcher shops.
          I’m going to query ” Beefcakes ”
          Take Care,
          — Miss Dee Dee

      • robert paulson

        i see a add for ILBE backpacks and surplus
        the adds change depending on what you have been lokking at ( gotta love them cookies)

      • Mountain Trekker

        Hey Thanks to all for your input. Seems we’re really under surveillance from all directions at all times. But it is kind of suprising how some things are put together buy those that would snoop in our lives. I have gone to various sites and catalogs and have never had them to come up on SHTFplan adds. But when I did a search on a certain site and then made a comment on SHTF, I get a add on my screen from that company. Very interesting! Seems our comments pack even more importance than we know. Trekker Out. Big Brother & Who Else!

      • Navy Vet

        @MT, Google, Yahoo, your ISP et al track ALL of your interactions on the web. They have very sophisticated programs that analyze all of your emails, comments, clicks on other ads, clicks on news articles and a lot more that then “push” similar ads at you. Once you log on to the web, unless you are using an anonymous browser, like Tor, you’re being tracked, analyzed and sold to. Just a fact of electronic life these days. If you don’t want to see ads use Ad Block Plus and Ghostery. They’re both free and mostly “fire and forget” types of software. Ad Block does just what it says, blocks almost all ads. Ghostery disallows the loading of tracking cookies from any website that uses them. With Ghostery, blocking is not automatic. You need to go into it periodically and turn any “new” trackers added to the list by Ghostery’s auto update feature. Happy surfing.

        • Outlaw

          Excellent advice Navy Vet. Those are exactly the two extensions I use with my browser to block all the crap.

        • Booger

          Thanks for the Intel Navy Vet. Much appreciated !

        • JayJay

          I don’t mind the ads–I just ignore.
          But what does bother me is the ‘to the side’ vids that start playing when I visit a site and I want to read–not wake Gene!!

          How to solve that??

      • Outlaw

        The ads are based on the cookies that are in your browser MT. You gotta turn them off or clear them when you shut down your browser to prevent them from targeting whats recently been on your mind. If ya need some help, lemme know.

        • Armored Trolls

          For Firefox, there’s an add-on called self-destructing cookies. It makes cookies, well, self-destruct after you leave a page. Saves some time from manually deleting them.

      • Tremir

        Just you buddy, it’s called IP tracking.

      • CrabbeNebulae

        Close your browsers and run CCleaner several times a day. Also, open up a blank browser and type in “about:config” in the address area, press return then type in “javascript.en”. Leave that browser open and everytime you get an annoying ad you can quickly turn off javascript by double clicking on javascript.en. It comes in particularly handy when surfing through multiple news sites. Just leave javascript turned off unless you want to interface with something then turn it back on and refresh your browser. Of course, nothing is perfect, but it beats all the annoying ads that incessantly blink all over the page and it will stop all the movie ads that automatically start when you are trying to read. I usually turn javascript off unless I want to post a comment or vote like or dislike, then I’ll turn it back on. It makes for a much more pleasant surfing experience. Just saying

      • Confederate

        It’s a “designer” ad that caters to your browsing habits. They bug you to death until you buy the damn thing or search for something else which then will follow you around like the previous product. You can disable by clicking on the ad info and following the links. Pain in the butt. What can I say.

      • Archivist

        On my screen there was an ad for prepper food supplies. I have never bought anything prepper online. The only real “prepper” food supplies I have ever bought was a case of MREs over 15 years ago for cash.

        The ads may also take into account the YouTube videos you watch.

        • Josh

          Maybe it’s because you are on a prepper website? just maybe?

      • Nopittypartyhere

        I just downloaded atlas shrugged from barns and noble….that’s what all my ads a for..

      • Vicky

        No ad showing on my computer, but I’ve had the same thing happen with different books or other merchandise. I ordered heirloom seeds from one site, and ads for more followed me for over six months. They were usually showing at the side of the page, though, so the placement you’re seeing is odd…..

      • NCjoe

        This is happening because your internet activities are being monitored by, not the NSA, but by businesses such as Amazon so they can target you with marketing to attempt to get you to spend money with them. A mark of the beast is not needed when you surf the internet, use assorted customer loyalty cards and use credit cards or debit cards. All these items provide data about you for marketing purposes. Why the uproar over NSA spying when corporate America is much more intrusive.

        • JayJay

          The sad thing is even after you buy that dehydrator, the ads follow you for weeks.
          So, if the computer memory is sooo damn smart–why not know you purchased it??

      • Calgagus

        You need to install AdBlock Plus. Then you wont have any of those user specific ads.

      • wrong


        According to anonymous you had better buy some undies from Victoria Secrets. May be better than a book..

        I’ve noticed what your saying quite a bit. I was looking for a multimeter on line several days ago. Now all my ads are from companies selling them.

        I’m sure Amazon knows what I want before I look. Probably not good but I’m not changing what I do because of it. Fuck em.

        • Mountain Trekker

          Wrong, I’ve never played or even looked at a video game and I’m continously blasted with those video ad’s with all those little pixy looking girls, some look like they’re 12 years old. I sure hope I don’t hit the wrong button when I delete those ad’s off my screen. Would probably endup on some kind of child predator list. Same with the Victoria Secrets, you would probably be listed as a sexual pervert by TPTB.

    14. VRF

      they are calling Bundy a Racist now , because he made the remark that he felt the Negroes would be better off with jobs or a skill, than to be enslaved by the government hand outs.( he did use the “pickin cotton” as a job so thats what set them off)
      Of course they skewed his words and MADE it racial

      well here are some of the Racists we have in political power and what they said

      We don’t need a history lesson to see how the Democrats’ fought against ending slavery and their well documented Indefensible, Pitiless and bigoted, hateful, Racist statements:

      Obama is “a light-skinned African American with no N…… word dialect, unless he wanted to have one” – (Democrat) Senator Harry Reid

      “You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian Accent.”
      – (Democrat) Senator Joe Biden

      “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy,” – (Democrat) Senator Joe Biden

      Mahatma Gandhi “ran a gas station down in Saint Louis.” – (Democrat) Hillary Clinton

      “A Few Years Ago, This Guy Would Have Been Getting Us Coffee” – (Democrat) Bill Clinton

      ” That’s all Hymie wants to talk about is Israel. Every time you go to Hymietown that’s all they want to talk about.” – (Democrat) Jessie Jackson

      ‘It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names.’ – Barack Obama

      “The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn’t. But she is a typical white person…” — Barack Obama

      ‘I ceased to advertise my mother’s race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites.’ – Barack Obama

      ‘I found a solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race.’ – Barack Obama

      ‘There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white.’ – Barack Obama

      • Jeff

        What! Bundy is a racist?! What a suprise…not. The ONLY suprise is that, it took this long for him to be labled, tar & feathered with the charge of racism. I expect Bundy soon to be called a sexist, homophobe, islamaphobe, hater, mean spirited, nazi, wants people to breath polluted air, drink polluted water, a climate change denier. So evil that he eats meat, wants to strave children, throw little old ladies into snow banks to freeze to death cause their social security money was taken away from them to be given to Republican rich fat cat CEOs. Oh yeah he hates cute puppies and kittens.

        I pray for a guardian angle to protect him and his family. May his enemies get every thing that they deserve. Muwahahaha.

        • MXLord327

          Yup, as soon as the BLM & FBI goons backed down, there was no other choice. The racist, homophobic, sexist white male attack machine had to be cranked up. I bet if you listen to NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, MSN, they will be parroting the exact same phrases from network to network. They all get their talking points and marching orders from the White House.

          • the renegade braveheart

            Yes, leave it to the ‘tribe’-controlled corporate media to spread the usual anti-white propaganda.

            • sixpack

              Here was my response when I saw the first article this morning. My intention on an open blog was to appeal to the sheep…I realized that I wasn’t on SHTFplan where people think more alike.

              “They are trying to change the focus from the illegal land grabs and the complicity of Nevada Senator Harry Reid, to a race war against a man for his not-very-articulate ponderings.

              SCREW HARRY REID. First he called us domestic terrorists, and when that didn’t get much traction, he found the race card. Harry Reid is a “POLITICAL TERRORIST”. He uses his authority as a U.S. Senator for profit and financial gains, stomping on the rights of his own constituents in the process of lining his own pockets. HARRY REID IS ILLEGALLY SELLING OUR PUBLIC LANDS TO CHINESE CORPORATIONS.

              THAT IS WHERE THE FOCUS NEEDS TO REMAIN. Don’t let them play us for fools.

              Do I need to remind everyone, including and ESPECIALLY Mr. Rand Paul, that THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THEY TRIED TO DO TO HIS FATHER. As soon as Ron Paul looked like a viable presidential candidate, they pulled the race card on him. They had to dig real deep and twist real hard, but they did it. When that didn’t work out as well as they had hoped, they busted out the family death threats, and Mr. Paul stepped down as a candidate. Mission accomplished.


              Every single gay, LBGT person in this country should be up in arms over this. They are trying to use a person’s own thoughts to take away his rights. You should remember all too well, the persecution of people with different views. They tried to deny you your freedom, using the contents of your own hearts — until you finally stopped apologizing for who you are and how you choose to live.

              As for African Americans — when are you going to say enough is enough? When they didn’t like rap music, especially “gangsta rap” they used your race against you. They tried to keep you from expressing yourselves through your music. Now they are trying to use your history