The Dumbing Down Of America: ‘The Numbers Speak Volumes’

by | Dec 18, 2017 | Conspiracy Fact and Theory, Headline News | 86 comments

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    Almost everyone can see that the dumbing down of America is in full effect.  A video breakdown of a Psychology Today piece from 2014 which details the anti-intellectualism most of us have already experienced in some way.

    According to Signs of the Times, there has been a long tradition of anti-intellectualism in America, unlike most other Western countries. Richard Hofstadter, who won a Pulitzer Prize in 1964 for his book, Anti-Intellectualism In American Life, describes how the vast underlying foundations of anti-elite, anti-reason, and anti-science have been infused into America’s political and social fabric. Mark Bauerlein, in his book, The Dumbest Generationreveals how a whole generation of youth is being dumbed down by their aversion to reading anything of substance and their addiction to digital “crap” that is composed on social media.

    Joe Joseph from The Daily Sheeple breaks it down in his new video. “You have plenty of these experts that are basically sounding the alarm,” he says. “Let’s keep it simple,” he continues. “I ask everybody a very simple question. If you think about what you learned from grade K to grade 12, give yourself a percentage of how much of that you actually use in your everyday life. Out of all of that information…now think about how much of your life experience weighs in.”

    Joseph then goes over the statistics that have been compiled which are evidence of Americans getting dumber by the decade. Part of that, is because of the declining quality of higher education. After leading the world for decades in 25-34-year-olds with university degrees, the U.S. is now in 12th place. The World Economic Forum ranked the U.S. at 52nd among 139 nations in the quality of its university math and science instruction in 2010.

    According to the 2009 National Assessment of Educational Progress, 68% of public school children in the U.S. do not read proficiently by the time they finish third grade. And the U.S. News & World reported that barely 50% of students are ready for college-level reading when they graduate:

    We’re creating a world of dummies. Angry dummies who feel they have the right, the authority and the need not only to comment on everything, but to make sure their voice is heard above the rest, and to drag down any opposing views through personal attacks, loud repetition and confrontation. –Signs of the Times

    The new elite are the angry social media posters; those who can shout loudest and more often, a clique of bullies and malcontents baying together like dogs cornering a fox. Rational thought is the enemy, says Bill Keller, writing in the New York Times.

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      1. “Rational thought is the enemy, says Bill Keller, writing in the New York Times.”

        Funny, I always thought the New York Times was the enemy.

        • Gotta keep lowering the bar so that everyone gets a trophy and let even black people pass and graduate. So pathetic how this country is allowing getting trashed by the browns and blacks.

          • Wow – that’s not racist at all (eyes rolling)

            • Actually, it’s not racist at all. Racism is believing one race is superior, by sheer skin color alone. Acknowledging that IQ varies by race is reinforcing scientific facts, not racism.

        • Get your guns, and ammo ready, the way were going in this country, we’ll be needing them real soon to deal with all the idiots being produced by our education system.

      2. You can’t possibly know where your going unless you know where you’ve been. Mark Dice interviews the dumbest of the dumb which he finds in abundance in Southern California. For the most part its obvious that these people have the economic means to know but just don’t care. Ignorance is laughingly the acceptable norm. At one time it was embarrassing to be without knowledge but now in common circles its cool to be ignorant. More dangerous is that Will Rodgers said, (paraphrasing) “that its not that people don’t know its what they think they know that just ain’t so”.

        • WHAT GOOD DOES IT DO TO HAVE MATH AND SCIENCE DEGREES WHEN YOU OFFSHORE ALL THE MATH AND SCIENCE JOBS TO CHINA??????????????????

          WHEN 97% OF ALL INVENTIONS WERE MADE BY WHITE MEN SO NOW YOUR CONSTANT IMPETUS IS TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF WHITE MEN BY AS MUCH AS YOU CAN IN THE OFFICE????????????????????????

          RIDDLE ME THAT YOU DOPEY BUREAUCRATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          MAKE AMERICA WHITE AGAIN

          • Eisen is back! Time for a nap and earplugs for the capital letters.

            • Max! Really?

            • Jim, I’m glad Eisen is back. Even with his all caps I’ll take his sensible posts any day over Gandhi’s incoherent babbling.

          • Eisenkreutz

            They’re politically dumbing down Americans. One way is to not teach history then re-write what remains. Regarding offshoring if it can be offshore’d it will be offshore’d. The US so far invents well. Americans unlike Asians don’t fear failure as quitting is looked down upon here; in Asia its failure. Manufacturing, thats another story.

          • Eisen, welcome back.

        • Free download of this book.

          This book will change the way you view education.

          The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America
          ht tp://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com/MomsPDFs/DDDoA.sml.pdf

        • Kevin2, once again you nailed it. I used to watch those Mark Dice videos but stopped. I used to laugh at things like that but not anymore. Like Ronald Reagan once said, “It’s not that our liberal friends don’t know anything it’s just that what they know is not so.”

        • Will Rogers. . .

        • Kevin2 ~ While flipping through TV channels last summer, I happened upon a “reality” show in which one of the TV people was trying to sell a 10-ounce silver bar to passerby on a city street. (I believe this was in California, but not 100% sure.)

          He started out at $10 and nobody would touch it. He eventually dropped to $5 and still nobody would buy it.

          Many people seemed puzzled as to what it actually was; most folks have seen silver jewelry, but the concept of a solid silver bar seemed totally alien to these folks.

          At the very end, the TV guy simply approached people, explained that it was a ten-ounce bar of solid silver, and offered to give it to them for free. Remember, this guy had a microphone and a camera crew, and this was clearly not just some shady streetcorner swindle — it was obviously being filmed for a television show.

          And still, nobody would accept the silver bar. Not even for free. People seemed bewildered and suspicious and unable to grasp the fact that it was an item of value. They were confused, so they simply shied away from the whole thing.

          It was amazing –and disturbing– to watch. I was simultaneously wishing like hell that stuff like this would happen to me, and appalled at how astoundingly ignorant people are.

      3. California used to have one of the best K-12 school systems in the country. Then the commies and globalists changed the demographics of the state. Garbage in, garbage out.

        • Its beyond demographics. The curriculum has an agenda and its not the acquisition of knowledge, facts and critical thinking. Its Orwellian in substance.

          • Dumbing down if America is all by Design to make us tbeir debt slaves. Thay are Jealous of America as the squatters just suck the life blood from their host’s corpse. From NAFTA selling off our skills to crap TV to porno Hollywood all by design to dumb us down, drugged up and our minds filled with Twinkee mush and fluoride water. This is the dismantling of America one piece at a time. Get off their polluted grid and stop feeding the beast destroying us.

        • There is no such thing as a “good” socialist school. Maybe they look good compared to today- anything is good compared to today.

          Even around 1900 there were movements to repair the failing schools. . .

          You do know that the pledge of allegiance was written by a national socialist- francis bellamy. . .[1892].

      4. The 1st through 12th grade history classes are effectively brainwashing students starting at an early age. Accept your fate and follow along or face the dire consequences. The important truths shall not be taught.

        • aljamo and kevin2: totally agree, loser parents send their kids to gov. schools, and look who will someday run the country-losers who can’t think critically/use logic. Now, we endure loser politicians esp. congress morons for decades. After all, we have’t won a war in 72 yrs. Congress is selling us out to foreign interests and people here don’t matter (wide open borders, Mexicans killing, drug running, etc) and Muslim scum kill and terrorize here and in the EU where dumbing down started post ww2. History is no longer taught. Parent’s don’t teach kids anything anymore.

          • “Parent’s don’t teach kids anything anymore.”

            Parents today largely graduated HS after 2000, starting school in 1988. They don’t know as they’re a product of dumbing down. The real controllers send their kids to private schools. Forget the politicians, with rare exception they’re literally hired servants knowingly or unknowingly employed by TPTB.

            • K2, true. I work with a lot of parents that don’t know shit except maybe football or crap stuff. They are stupid as hell and ignorant of everything. All they do is beech about their kids and how stupid they think they are? No wonder they are so dumb, their parents don’t know anything either! I always recommend to them to get a vasectomy (40 bux with our insurance). But no, imbiciles love pumping out more kids… fooooooooook…….

          • laura ann : Talking about selling us out, I received this email the other day. The sell out is on its way. The following is a copy of that email. Look it up for yourselves.

            Remember this email because … this is on its way … This is real folks. It was researched. He went to school on Sorros’ money. A pile of it.

            If you go to Google it will show you his background and who sent him to school.

            Don’t ever say you weren’t warned – ‘He IS on his way’ ~
            ‘He IS being groomed at this very minute’

            PRESIDENT ABDUL EL-SAYED?

            Etch this man’s name in your mind.

            His name is Abdul El-Sayed.

            After years of being groomed by George Soros. He has been handpicked by the Left to be their next “champion” of Hope and Change.

            He is 32 years old, born in the USA, and an extremely well educated Muslim Doctor in Detroit Michigan. (education funded by George Soros)

            He is handsome, articulate, charismatic and smart.

            He is sympathetic of the Muslim Brotherhood, and is running for Governor of Michigan.

            Which is Step 1 in his preparation to run for President of the United States.

            He has the potential to be Obama #2, but far more openly Muslim.
            Abdulrahman Mohamed El-Sayed is an American physician, epidemiologist, public health advocate, and politician.

            He has announced his candidacy for Governor of Michigan, running as a Democrat.

            Wikipedia:
            Born: October 31, 1984 (age 32), Michigan
            Awards: Rhodes Scholarship; Paul and Daisy Soros; Fellowships for New Americans
            Education: University of Michigan, Ann; Arbor (BA); Oriel College, Oxford (MA, PhD); Columbia University (MD)
            Political party: Democratic Party.

            In 2020 he will be eligible to run for President!

            Democrats’ mouths are watering in anticipation and raising money.

            Elizabeth “Pocahontas” Warren is already campaigning for him.

            Another Trojan Horse?

            Al Jazeera, which is widely read by Michigan’s large Muslim population, is doing its best to help George Soros make him “YOUR” president in 2020!

            Bet you never dreamed an unknown, like Obama, would end up as the President of the United States of America not just once but twice FOR 8 YEARS total, did you?!

            • if you read the koran and decide you simply must be a muslim you signal serious illiberal proclivities and present a threat to humanity. such people do not belong in the united states because their beliefs telegraph a strong intent to undermine american values.

          • “. . .After all, we have’t won a war in 72 yrs. . .”

            What makes you think we “won” that war?

            (((“We’ve been behind all your wars and revolutions”)))

      5. Prepper alert. I-5 shutdown near Tacoma Wa. Amtrak derailed on the overpass and partially landed on the interstate. Casualties unknown.

      6. I not only experienced this dumbing down in real time while enrolled in the Public Uneducation System. But knew, as that child, that it was the primary cause of my poor ability to properly absorb real knowledge. But that aside, here’s a link to a wealth of information about the dumbing down of Society for the purposes to enrich the “connected” elite. It is titled “Forced Government Indoctrination Camps”. By Eric Dubay.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxY9GREM0Us&index=8&list=PLCfVxJTzn1c3M4vgh0tg5hzQ2KArcHGcl

      7. My wife earned her doctorate in chemistry. I worked for a company that built sattelite launch vehicles. We have observed that many people cannot make change from a small transaction. Many people know very little about western civilization and the founding of the USA. The concept of due process before condemning a suspect is lost on these folks. LOGIC, CAUSE & EFFECT, CRITICAL THINKING, and many other concepts are lost on many Americans. Observe the way half the country votes.

      8. The vile Frankfurt School/Gramsci/Alinsky crew must be proud.

        Ignorant? Easily led? Enjoy mindlessly chanting “Yes we can” during the Obama era? The radical left and feminazis can sure use you!

      9. It all started with Jeff Spicoli. Being totally stoned and clueless was now cool. After all, who wants to be a nerd (like me)?

      10. This forum proves their point.

        hahahhaha

        • Untrue. The dumbed-down don’t realize that they are stupid and have been duped. Much less read articles on the subject. However, true dumbasses mock those that know the world as it truly is. Can you read between those lines?

        • Stormy, none of the regulars here are dumbed down but you sound like you are. So just move your dumb ass along.

      11. Whaddya mean they dumbided us down? I’ll have you know I have a masters in left handed
        puppetry. Gradurated toppa ma class. Yessirree. I’ma plenty edgeamacated. All a you high
        fallutin media busters better take notice. BWAHAHA Tell us something we don’t know, Mac.

      12. How can it be that folks are stupider? There are more folks with high school and college degrees than ever before? Ok It started when they decided that too many students dropped out of school. They started this No Child Left Behind bullcrap. So they dumbed down the test so the stupid students could pass. then the stupid didn’t drop out at 16 and enter the school of hard knocks and learn how to do the mundane manual labor or find their nich in life. Nope the Dumd thick skulled low IQ who happened to be good at sports where treated extra special and received a High school Diploma they never rightly deserved. Then to boot they get a college scholarship and a 4 year degree that they never deserved. So we now have a pletoria of Mental Midget,s who are so stupid that they actually believe that they are highly intelligent and have superior intellect. When if fact they are Dumb Ass know it all’s. And we owe it to the Parasites who administer and teach at the public schools. Take sports out of the education system ant it will get better. Right now its regressed to Our Nxxxxr’s can whup your Nxxxxr’s.

        • lol true

        • “How can it be that folks are stupider? ”

          Uuugh, “stupider”…

          Probably because imbeciles like you believe it’s better to send your kid for liberal indoctrination than not to.

          • Your the type of moron who cannot comprehend that I do not approve of liberal education in the public school.

            • Old Guy, agreed about NB being a moron. But the dumbing down started way before the ‘no child left behind’ crap. It was the 70s when I first noticed things started going downhill in the schools. Graduated in ’75. But all through my 12 years in school what the schools taught me was also counter-balanced by my parents’ style of ‘homeschooling’. So I already had some critical thinking skills before I finished high school. NB definitely sounds like he’s dumbed down.

        • Old Guy

          Things weren’t so good in the 1970s either. I fortunately went to a first rate public school for 1-8. For HS they sent us to a place occupied by the underclass in a neighboring town. It was 40% dark, 20% white trash and then us. I spent my time dodging dark thugs that were extorting lunch money. 9th grade had 300 students, 110 were there for graduation. Interestingly the standards were so low that one student who graduated, who’s nickname was “Mental” (for good reason), no doubt a victim of fetal alcohol syndrome (boozer parents) wrote “have a nise somonour” in my yearbook.

        • yeah, I thought that school was for education, not sports. I sure am wrong when tx a&m pays the head football coach $60k A DAY. my sis teaches 4-5 grade and barely makes that a year, 19 years, and I think she is overpaid. look at the packed sports venues and the scholastic venues with a couple hundred. ask almost anyone someone’s sports stats and you get a full bio, ask about George Washington, who? pathetic what we have become.

      13. In college I would ask history majors to name five battles of the civil war. None could ever do it. They did know about harriet tubman the recruiter for the Union army among black folk. What is really bad is the changing of history to suit politics. A recent but on WWII said there were no black units on the line in Europe. The instant collapse of black divisions on the line resulted in the battle of the bulge, That has to be covered up now. All most no one knows American Indians were commonly cannibals included the Huron, Delware, Apaches etc. I my kids former grade school they were not going to teach cursive writing printing was enough. I changed their school. The list of things is endless

        • “What is really bad is the changing of history to suit politics. ”

          George Orwell’s 1984. It was meant to be a futuristic novel but has become a templet for society.

      14. I would love to take any of those college degree smart asses. and put a log on the carrage of my sawmill. and tell them to saw out a 7×9 rail road tie and 1 inch boards. and to remember that the saw turns 1/4 inch into sawdust every cut. let them do that math in their head.

        • carriage. . .railroad is one word

          I work with my hands while thinking about epistemology. . .

      15. As an educator I have to lay this directly at the feet of educators for dumbing down Americans. The vast majority of educators have done nothing more in life than go to school and teach in school. From this cadre of people come the administrators of our schools. These further dumb down our students by lumping low intelligent with higher intelligent students bringing everyone to the lowest common denominator.

      16. grandee says:
        Comment ID: 3769531

        December 14, 2017 at 11:15 pm

        think about what you just said.

        children need an education and every parent is not going to homeschool or pay for private.

        I should not want to live in a country where children have no opportunity for an education.

        even a liberal education is better than nothing.

        The world you ascribe to can no longer exist in this modern era.

        Needed services need to be paid for.

        If you want to educate your own, police your own, put out your own fires, and provide your own CPR, go ahead. More power to ya.

        But that just isn’t feasible in the big cities of life.

        • “even a liberal education is better than nothing.”

          Because you’re an idiot. Liberals are making your children stupid, not giving them a mediocre education.

          • I was copy and pasting Grandee’s post. I strongly disagree with the statement that a liberal education is better than nothing. In fact Our youngest child was home schooled. Its easy to home school now. You can do it on the internet. I will admit my spelling isn’t the greatest. Im sorry if in order for you to understand and comprehend my post everything must be spelled 100% correct.

            • I went to publik skool and remumber pledjing allegance to thu flag. I also remumber being tot the konstitution. Frum JR High on I majered in gettin high. I gots ma a ged though wheech only took 2 weeks to do. Most things I need to know I taught myself or learned frum experience. Skool iz over rated, I make more and have less debt than most of muh freends what weent to kollege lol….

          • NB sounds like he’s dumbed down.

          • It was K-12 being decimated for a while. Now, many of the USA’s “finest” universities are left-wing propaganda machines. The lefties have been unable to break through math and physical sciences, but that is a small piercentage. I live in a State where 40% of the citizenry are on Medicaid, 72% of babies are born on Medicaid and, of course, Democrats rule here. Did I mention our public schools produce horrid results?

            • Since the goal of “public schools” has always been destruction, how can the results be viewed as horrid?

      17. They are definitely trying to dumb everybody down (mainly the kids) & it’s a shame because it’s working! I’ll be 40 years old in February & it’s a shame that my generation will be responsible for running the world because my kids generation (two girls ages 6 & 12) will be too dumb to do it. ? I feel so bad for the next generation, they’re going to be confused about their gender, race & everything else thanks to the public fool system, the media & most of all our government for putting all of this b.s. in our food/water supply. Kids are so hooked on their iPads, phones, tablets & any other electronic device that they may have that they’re completely oblivious to what’s going on in the real world. We need to minimize the amount of time that they spend on their electronic device & make the kids go outside to play. To make matters worse, a lot of these young kids are walking around smelling like weed as if they’re not dumb enough already! Why would you smoke weed & make your thoughts/reactions/speech slower?! To be honest with you, they don’t need anything else to make them any dumber! ? These kids can’t even give you the correct change back at the register without using a calculator & that’s sad, half of them can’t read properly & to make matters worse they can’t spell or write…. we’re doomed!! ?

      18. Heres a bit of history many might not know. After Jefferson made the louisanna purchase. He had the surveyors survey the land into townships. Each township has 36 sections. Each section was a square mile containing 640 acres. and every 16th section was set aside for the public school. The revenue generated fron that 640 acres was to be used for the school. No student would need to travel farther than three miles to school. And it worked pretty good. After the use of the automobile became prevalent school districts consolidated and became bigger and sold the school lands. and began taxing the landowners to support bigger and biggers schools. Then School sponsored sports became popular. and resources that previously went to actual learning where diverted to sports programs. and the bigger the school the larger pool of potential sports players. Until the main focus of public schoold became not education but sports. nation wide coaches are the highest paid (teachers?) and no teacher of the core subjects will dare to give a star sports player a failing grade. Its similar to the gladiators in a Roman Collesuem

        • Old Guy, great comments again. As a person of more than 65 years I am concerned that there aren’t enough young patriots to keep those that would crush the USA at bay. The bad actors are out there and many of our young people only know revisionist history (kind of like fake news). We veterans might be called again.

      19. “describes how the vast underlying foundations of anti-elite, anti-reason, and anti-science have been infused into America’s political and social fabric”

        Interesting considering most so-called intellectuals in America are elitist imbeciles that are anti-reason, anti-science and most importantly, anti-American.

      20. Oh, the irony!

      21. Students are run through the schools like cattle. Its all about federal funds. The more you graduate the more funds you get. doesn’t matter whether anybody learned anything. There is a scandal in Washington/Maryland right now that half the high school graduates can’t read and do math but got the diploma. Sound familiar?

      22. Years ago when there was a slow time at
        work, I took university classes during summer
        school. That is when a lot of teachers do
        their Graduate studies to get their
        advanced degrees.
        I never dealt with a more stupid bunch of
        people in my life.
        Scary.

        • Yup, like me, when my job took a dump I used my unemployment time to get 2 certs. in solar. Got a job and when things got better went back to my old job (pays a lot more and benefits). Most people would just sit on their ass and whine about it.

          • Gen,
            I was employed, but we were no longer required to do overtime.
            University Summer school is compressing a 9 week class into 4 weeks.
            Includes at least 4 research papers of 10 pages or more, I went to a tough school.
            I worked full time while earning a degree.
            My at the time job generally required at least 20% OT in normal years.
            I was thankful for the job and the education.
            PS
            I also used to Tutor the younger students.

      23. My opinion is that those public funded educators are all taking parasites. they produce nothing. And have failed miserably at preparing our young adults to be able to work and produce. I see folks with college degrees working side by side with folks who did not finish high school stocking the shelves at walmart. God forbid you ask one of those degree holding morons to calculate how many yards of concrete it will take to fill up a form. There is a saying those the can Do. the rest teach. When SHTF those who have actual Know How and are self reliant will have a great advantage over the highly educated morons who are ate up with the dumbass.

      24. This is why we have grandchildren. When changing your television channel has grown too complex, they can help you out. It is truly sad. I once took calculus and loved it. Now, I can no longer help children with their math homework. SAD

      25. 60 minutes last night had a story about a converted neo-Nazi….and went on and on about these so called hate groups; concluding the reason the Charlottesville ‘protest’ (as well as all the other protests) turn violent is because of the neo-Nazi white nationalists that show up at these protests. Nothing about the hate and violence coming from the other side….which by the way is where most of the violence & hate is coming from. I wanted to reach into the TV and grab the commentator by the throat. Hey Mr 60 minutes. Why don’t you do a segment on the Black Panthers, BLM, or Infata as a hate group? Oh, I see….they can’t be hate groups. Only whites can have hate groups. You filthy bastards. I hope I live to see the day that you media moguls are hung from lamp-posts like Musolini.!!!!!

      26. Back when I was in High School back in the 60,s. there was a tall teen who could run really fast. He was on the track team. The Oceola school had two exchange students apparently fron the Serengeti plains. At a track meet of course the first race those imports beat everyone by a great margin. This white teen just went and set in the bus. the coach came a threatened him and said he would kick him off the team if he didn’t get back out there. He told the coach You cant kick me off because I quit. Im not gonna waste time trying to out run xxxxxxx that already escaped lions and cannibals because they are faster.

        • Some famous white football coach spoke about black athletes saying essentially that because of their environment they have become faster, stronger. They gave him hell, fired him for a while for stating the obvious. If you look close enough you will find information accepted in academic circles, actually coming from them that state what is commonly known.

          h ttp://www1.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/30years/Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf

        • It’s called “Natural selection”.
          Europeans, Russians included
          don’t have to run. We make tools.
          We are so good at it, that if we
          screw up, everything will die.

          BTW my best mile time was 5 minutes,
          which sucks today.

          • Cold weather people also have to plan and save or stave to death in the winter. This fosters intelligence and discipline. Its not accidental that the cold weather people and of course their genetic decedents did the inventing. As someone once said, “Necessity is the motherhood of invention”.

            • starve not stave

              • “BTW my best mile time was 5 minutes, which sucks today.”

                A 13.5 second street ET on the 1/4 mile was great in 1975 as was 350HP. Today 6 cylinders do that and V8s can do better than that with the AC on. The environment and time changes everything.

                • I ran that mile bare foot.

                  • I rode that mile on my dirt bike in 50 seconds lol.

      27. folks back in the day would walk a mile to smoke a Camel

      28. Helmuth,give the list of black units you say caused the bulge in the Ardennes. I believe your mistaken

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