Study: Weapon Magazine Bans Do Nothing to Decrease Fatal Shootings, Which Also Proves That Democrats Just Want to Disarm Us, Period

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    Democrats are working overtime in states and in Congress to chip away at Americans’ gun rights, mostly by adopting silly gun licensing and storage requirements, the imposition of “red flag” laws (which violate the constitutional requirement of due process), and bans on the number rounds a firearm magazine can hold.

    The latter regulation has been popular for several years now, having been adopted by blue state legislatures as a way to ostensibly limit the carnage during mass shootings.

    But a new study has found what most everyone with more than a pair of brain cells to rub together realized long ago: Arbitrary bullet limitations don’t have any impact whatsoever on fatal shootings.

    As Breitbart News’ Awr Hawkins reports that a newly released study on state gun control laws around the country that ban “high-capacity” rifle and handgun magazines as well as so-called “assault weapons” don’t lower homicide rates. 

    Led by Boston University School of Public Health’s Michael Siegel; a second listed study author was Harvard University gun control advocate David Hemenway.

    The news site noted further:

    The study, The Impact of State Firearm Laws on Homicide and Suicide Deaths in the USA, 1991–2016: a Panel Study, isolated four states to study ten different types of gun control to see if certain gun controls were successful in reducing homicide and/or suicide rates. Via their research, they discovered that “high-capacity” magazine and “assault weapons” bans do not lower homicide rates.

    “Although I completely understand the desire to ban assault weapons, I just don’t see empirical evidence that such bans have any substantial impact on homicide rates. These bans are most often based on characteristics of guns that are not directly tied to their lethality,” said Siegel in an interview.

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    He added: “Laws regulating the sale of assault weapons are unlikely to have a large impact on homicide rates because these weapons are used in only a very small proportion of homicides. The vast majority of firearm homicides in the United States are committed with handguns.”

    What part of ‘shall not be infringed’ do Democrats not understand?

    There’s more. The study found that “changes in household gun ownership were not found to be significantly associated with homicide or suicide rates.” 

    But this finding is completely counter to the Democratic Left’s unending claims that a gun in the home puts everyone in it at far greater risk.

    Anyone who’s followed this issue for any length of time knows that the current study really just reaffirms previous research that found assault weapons and gun magazine bans are non-factors in gun-related homicides, again because handguns are most often used to kill. And there’s this fact as well: By far most gun-related deaths in the United States are suicides, not homicides — and that fact hasn’t changed in decades.

    What has changed is the number of people killed by guns: That figure dropped last year. 

    But there’s more to this issue that gun research and falling death rates.

    When our founding fathers wrote the Second Amendment, they inserted a provision — “shall not be infringed” — believing that it would be self-explanatory.

    Given that the Constitution places limitations on government(s) and not individuals, their intent was obviously to prevent future congresses and presidents from enacting any laws that would restrict a citizen’s “right to keep and bear arms” in any manner whatsoever.

    After states ratified the 14th Amendment following the Civil War, the U.S. Supreme Court held that the amendment’s “due process” clause applied to states as well. That established the “doctrine of incorporation,” meaning that all of the Constitution’s recognition and protection of rights applies to the states as well.

    That includes the Second Amendment, much to the angst of the Democratic Left. It’s time we reestablished the “shall not be infringed” provision as an inviolable constitutional mandate, or Democrats will continue to use faulty logic and politics — not science — to limit our gun rights.

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      1. OK, I’m back after having wrapped up my Dad’s affairs in the aftermath of losing him. The gun grabbers are banned from trying to take anything from me. I will stand against them regardless of the outcome. I just don’t care anymore. We all know what’s coming down the pike. I’m sick of the left and all of their crap.

        • Condolences DR,sorry to hear.

        • Sorry to hear of your father’s passing.

          Mine left in 2008.

          We miss them when they leave us.

          May God grant you His grace as you move forward.

        • Sorry, DR.

        • My sympathies for you. I know how it is.

          • Sorry for your loss Brave, I have lost all of my parents. At least he lived a long good life.

        • Again Old FRIEND sorry to hear.
          You have my Prayers.

          Now I want to let you know I’m stand right beside you with is of your fathers passing and against the gun braggers.

          Old FRIEND.
          AIM SMALL MISS SMALL!!!

          Sgt.

        • TDR: Amen! am with you 1000% When is enough actually enough? This garbage makes me puke out of my ass-end. To bloody hell with the vile filth know as the left, demonRATS, REpubli-pukes, Gov’t, hell ALL of them, to bloody hell with them all. Piss off, I am not giving you shit so don’t even consider banging on my damn door you shitheads

      2. Deplorable Renegade, Sorry for your loss.Hope he had a good life. My girlfriend fly’s back home to bury her father this weekend, he made it to 90 years old and was a farmer. It was hard to find pallbearers as he outlived all his friends.

        • To everyone who offered condolences I thank you from the bottom of my heart. He’d been having heart trouble since October. He was 87 and did have a very good life. He’s in a better place now and not suffering anymore.

      3. “…Democrats Just Want to Disarm Us, Period”

        But, there’s no reason for wanting to disarm you. You are made defenseless, and that is all. Period.

        • As if Trump is a true believer in gun rights?

          Donald Trump in 2000:
          “I SUPPORT THE BAN ON ASSAULT WEAPONS”
          theintercept DOT com/2016/01/27/donald-trump-in-2000-i-support-the-ban-on-assault-weapons/

          Donald Trump in 2018:
          • “…asks Dianne Feinstein to add ‘assault weapons’ ban to school safety bill”

          breitbart DOT com/politics/2018/02/28/president-trump-asks-dianne-feinstein-add-assault-weapons-ban-school-safety-bill/

          • Trump orders DOJ to issue rule banning bump stocks

          thehill DOT com/homenews/administration/380018-trump-reverses-obama-era-rule-to-ban-bump-stocks

          • Trump on Gun Restraining Orders: ‘I Like Taking the Guns Early’ –
          ‘Take the Guns First, Go Through Due Process Second’

          breitbart DOT com/video/2018/02/28/trump-on-gun-restraining-orders-i-like-taking-the-guns-early-take-the-guns-first-go-through-due-process-second/

          • Fix NICS Bill to Strengthen Gun Background Check System Signed into Law by Trump

          culberson DOT house DOT gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=398944

          • “President Donald J. Trump is Taking Immediate Actions…calling on every State to adopt Extreme Risk Protection Orders (ERPOs).”

          whitehouse DOT gov/briefings-statements/president-donald-j-trump-taking-immediate-actions-secure-schools/

          • Pay attention.

            (((They))) are disproportionately the command and control of the gun control agitprop, financing, and legislation:

            judaism DOT is/disarming-goyim.html

            • H, you don’t have to be wearing a Yamaha on your head to want to disarm a group of people.

              • It is remarkable how many people ignore what is.

                I provide verifiable evidence at the site: judaism DOT is/disarming-goyim.html

              • If you’re wearing a Yamaha on your head, it’s a sign that you need to slow down on the curves….

            • Some generations ago, (((they))) would have sold slaves to an armed, white, Protestant voting bloc, assuming that Manifest Destiny extended into the Caribbean.

        • Right and that is what the leftist, marxist pukes want, seize our guns and then really act out and we are left with nothing or defense…not happening – it is so past time to show them what we think of this and what we have for them. . . .man the hell up.

      4. “Bugsy” Siegel should learn what an “assault weapon” is before he tries to do any more studies. He has no credibility if he doesn’t know the difference. It seems that everyone now accepts the definition of a black semi-auto rifle as an “assault weapon”.

        More perversion of the language by the gun grabbers.

      5. My condolences for the loss of your father braveheart

      6. Yup, no doubt about it, I have yet to read or hear about someone who was beaten to death by a 30 round pmag.

        • No but I bet it would put a hurt on you, especially if it was full! 😛

          • LOL!

      7. Just a very weird thing. I’m using a vpn. If I chose any US location, this site doesn’t work at all. Nothing comes up. If I choose that I’m from Canada, it works. I tried to message through the contact form, but unfortunately the capcha didn’t come up. Either the VPN is blocking the site or the isp is.

      8. Hitler
        Mao
        Pol Pott
        Lenin
        Stalin
        Obama, and the party that elected TRAITOR Obama

        All the tyrants agree.
        “Disarm the people, for safety.”

        • Something people on your list have in common with Democrats:

          Hitler, National SOCIALIST party.
          Stalin, Soviet SOCIALIST Union.
          Pol Pot, Peoples SOCIALIST Party.
          Obama, Ocasio-Cortez, Beto, Kamala Harris: American SOCIALISTS.

          People who forget history are doomed to repeat it. Kamala and Beto are for sure the next Dems who will face Trump.

          The Hordes versus the Patriots.

      9. Study: Weapon Magazine Bans Do Nothing to Decrease Fatal Shootings, Which Also Proves That Democrats Just Want to Disarm Us, Period

        I don’t think i have ever heard a democrat say anything other then the fact they want to disarm us. They don’t even try to justify it anymore.

        • JS, the dems can never justify such a move anyway. Dems don’t have any real authority over anyone. The only gun law I follow is the 2A.

        • The dem’s could care less about gun control saving lives…. What they really want is total people control. They want to enslave us, while destroying our family structure, our hertitage, our beliefs in Jesus Christ and our country…. The reason why they have been this successful so far, is no one is pushing back or making an example of them….

          • 21B: You are absolutely correct!So when are we getting this “party” started and stop sitting back doing dick. I am so sick and tired of this shit I can’t stand it anymore. Enough is enough.

      10. instead, they should just make it illegal to walk into any place and begin shooting people indiscriminately. Or, outlaw murder altogether. Or make it a crime to rob and steal from others with a gun. That should do it!

        Then they’d HAVE to do it ‘cause it’s the LAW!

        Jackasses

      11. I ignore all gun laws except the 2nd amendment – period

        • You may ignore it but the control is on the stores and dealers. No more parts, ammo, etc..

          How they get peoples personal guns is snitches and bounties to turn in people. Someone’s ex girlfriend will turn him in. Offer a bounty and the doorkickers will come and outnumber the gunowner 40 to 1.

          We need to be ready, They’re coming. A party that tries to coup a duly elected president will never stop, when they get total power, the white house, they will do everything to disarm us, no matter how unconstitutional. They have the ENTIRE Deep State.

          • SP: You are right, hands down, no 2-ways about it period. Folks, we best get it together or it is going to be the saddest day this damn nation have ever experienced. Yet basically NO ONE is doing shit…SMH.

      12. Thou shall not comply.

      13. As individuals, we are weak and will be killed or disarmed one-by-one. Together, we are strong. Disregard all unconstitutional laws regardless of what you are being told by government. Start a ‘Neighborhood Watch’ program RIGHT NOW to defend your neighborhoods from unconstitutional government action.

      14. The current government in whole is pretty much corrupt and enemies domestic,
        The only thing they care about is money and power and will step on anyone they see as a threat.
        This is exactly why the 2A was written, but heres the catch, when the hell is anyone going to start it off and stand up to these azzholes?

        • Nail and anybody else,
          Read my comment on the earlier SHTF “economics slowdown confirmed…” post, That is my start.

      15. I really miss listening to the G. Gordon Liddy show.

      16. these d-suckers have 2 goals: confiscation/disarmament & extermination. holocaust ring a bell?

      17. Democrats Just Want to Disarm Us, Period, Getting rid of the selectorial college, Letting in illegals, Telling us how to raise our kids, Mandating shots, Green new deal. Just to name a few will cause States to leave from the union which will trigger a Civil War.

        We have some moron in Shitcago wanting to place a $25.00 tax on all mags over 10rds. If that happens I’ll have to get another job to pay the tax. (NOT) F@#$ Her.
        Sgt.

        • Hey Sarge,
          You were in the military? You get so many shots, they give you a yellow book to keep track of all of them. Mine was so full they issued me a second one and I had only served over 5 years. I went on to earn a STEM degree after my honorable discharge, so I don’t buy the anecdotes about shots. Although I refuse Flu shots from the VA as flu shots always made me sick.

          As for states leaving the union, I suggest that cities leave.
          who in their right minds would stop Chicago( or any other big city) declaring itself an independent city state? They are doing it now. Cut them lose and quit being subject to their citizen’s idiocy.
          Establish a border, customs ports, and let them go.
          City states were very common in the ancient world so there is precedent. Worked for them. Works for me.

          A while back Honolulu thought it was going to be nuked. I kissed my wife and cracked open a beer.
          I don’t live near Honolulu and quite frankly my quality of life would improve dramatically if it were obliterated.
          I suspect citizens of WA, OR, CA, NY, Il, MI, MN, PA, et al think the same way about their big cities.

        • I would advocate owning at least 15 mags for each pistol, 70 to 80 high caps (30 rounders) for each rifle..

          If someone has $1000.00 in an AR then the same amount in mags for it. A variety though: half metal, half poly, and a few aluminum, but mostly steel on the metal ones.

          BTW, has anyone seen the new Springfield Saint Victor AR? Sweeet.

          • SOP
            Have you been looking in my window?

            Don’t forget to have them loaded. 30rds I put in 29. 20rds 19. I have a couple different rifles. Now starting to put together a mag sele3ction for my AR10. My primary hand guns I have 10 mags apiece. My secondary hand guns I have 1 in the pistol and plus four extra (5).
            Sgt.

      18. Let me ask something did the 1934 Firearms Act on Machine Guns stop any crime ?

        If not then why do we still have the damn thing in place then????

      19. Let me ask something did the 1934 Firearms Act on Machine Guns stop any crime ?
        If not then why do we still have this act in place ?
        Because it’s so useless.

      20. May I suggest sending a letter to your state’s attorney general asking the question,
        “What will your reaction be if I exercise my Constitutional Second Amendment right to keep and bear the arms I choose on my property, in my home and on my person when I travel within the state.”

        You’ll obviously get a shit storm back.

        File suit for violation of your constitutional rights. (1215.org)

      21. The Left wants not to replace the 2nd amendment only, but the whole friggin Constitution. Civil war is coming soon.

        A smart prepper might stash their guns in a number of different places, maybe bury a few with ammo and mags. I hear that Amazon sells Mono Vaults for such an act?…. Just say’n?

        • I sold a bunch of mine to “some guy” at a gun show. Never saw him again, don’t know his name or remember what he even looked like. Heck, might have been a woman even, don’t know?

          • I sold all mine to you!

      22. Get your mags backed up especially in California. Those and the guns they go in are no good for defense if you don’t have them. Don’t end up like Europe,Australia and now New Zealand. Hide them, bury them,do whatever to escape confiscation.

        • @Jim, you’re not asking people to conceal such “deadly” weapons are you? Or lie about it to the Gubermint, not we preppers, no way!

      23. “Our” senators brought a red flag bill to the floor last month. Several states have initiated red flag “laws” at the state and local level, but officialdom wants them at the fed. level too. A better and more accurate name for red flag bills is “The Extreme Order To Confiscate Your Firearms, Eliminate Due Process, And Violate Your Constitutional Rights Bill”.
        Many, if not most legislators are lawyers, they know red flags laws are obviously un-Constitutional, but to officialdom that doesn’t matter. Something as good or bad, right or wrong, or trust or false is not important; what is important is power. Who has power is all that matters. When officialdom begins to pass laws that plainly violate the Constitution it shows at least three things: officialdom places their political ideology above the Constitution, they are getting impatient to seize all power – whether legitimate or not, and that they really could not give a rats ass about what we millions of citizens who don’t agree with them think. Here’s the real kicker – they and the “elites” believe they are entitled to guns and being protected by people with guns, whereas their constituents and all citizens are not – pure rank hypocrisy and elitism.
        Red flag laws allow for someone to have their firearms confiscated and have their rights violated simultaneously, all without ever having a court appearance or hearing, never being allowed to confront one’s accuser(s) or witnesses in person. This is plainly an ex parte hearing, un-Constitutional, a proceeding conducted without notice and outside the presence of affected parties. Many Constitutional experts say this is a a gross violation of the 5th Amendment.
        The absolute highest priority of TPTB and gov’t is to change the demography and culture of the US. Rather than a a traditional, Western, Christian majority, they want it in the minority so as to marginalize and minimize us. They want a citizenry with 2nd and 3rd world political mentality where citizens are powerless, unaccustomed to personal rights or independent personhood. This is why TPTB refuse to build “The Wall” or stop illegal immigration. It helps explain why officialdom ardently supports the right of Amer. citizens to have abortions, and why the cost of living keeps going up not permitting large families any more, or that kids are being indoctrinated in school to be anti-family and pro gov’t. TPTB don’t want those of European heritage, who are mostly that part of the population that supports personal rights and freedoms, to have children.
        The truth is TPTB want a docile, passive, trained but stupid job force, with no critical thinking skills or independent thinking ability. A citizenry that has been thoroughly propagandized who will never oppose authority, willingly subordinating them to the state.
        It isn’t going to stop – SECEDE NOW!!!!!

      24. Californians! Got Magazines? You had one week. Trekker Out.

        • You are aware that you can drive out of the state, buy a bunch and just drive back right? Been going on forever. Only stupid people obey stupid laws.

          • We got a ten round limit here in the PRO MD. My trip down to see the old folks in Tenn twice a year is two fold. To enjoy them while their still here and to stock up on additional items like the current subject matter.

            • “They’re”

      25. AMERICAN THINKER site today has “another” article on a coming Civil War2. The author concludes that with our country so divided, NOTHING WILL STOP IT FROM HAPPENING!

        Pretty scary stuff, so let us all prepare-Prepare-PREPARE!

        It’s better to die on our feet than live on our knees!

        • I like that site.

      26. Mercy, please end the ‘Good Cop-Bad Cop’ disinformation. Failure to understand that Republicans are an enemy of liberty is to have missed the whole lesson of America’s slide into gun control.

        ‘The Gun Control Act of 1968’ brought us gun registration. Without the support of Republicans who voted for it (in BOTH houses) the law would have failed.
        You can thank Republicans for bringing the wrath of gun registration upon Americans.

        The same is true for ‘The Brady Act’ of 1993.
        You can thank Republicans for bringing the wrath of the FBI NICS system background checks and waiting periods upon Americans.

        And Republicans will bring us gun confiscation.

        • Will not comply.
          I do not not violate any constitutional federal, state , or local law.
          By my reading the vast majority of laws aren’t constitutional and the system purposefully makes it darn near impossible for a timely review of the Illegality of most laws. You’ll be dead before it gets to a court.

          • “You can thank Republicans for bringing the wrath of gun registration upon Americans.”

            MG, you can also thank the NRA for that.

        • @Montana Guy, really don’t think it will break out the way that you describe. R vs D. How about instead Supporters of The Constitution vs those who wish to impose a Marxist based Tyranny on America. Venezuela like?

          As a Christian I know that God gave us Government to keep order in society and I am also aware that some here hate any sort of order/laws. Morals and laws, along with a common purpose keep a Country strong, but when they are diluted , as they are being now, the Country falls apart, often into Civil Unrest.

          I believe President Washington said it best, ” Prepare for war and pray for peace”.

          • Not all of the GOP are evil either, Romney, Paul, Rubio, etc. yes. My Congressman, Ted Yoho is a true blue patriot.

            • Romney? Wow you MUST be on acid….

              • Brother Genius, while I appreciate our humor, I can say that I don’t do drugs, but do get high on life and God’s abundant Grace.

                You’ve made it clear that you don’t believe in Him, but I bet that He loves you just the same. Stay safe, be well, and God Bless.

            • Romney is about as true as McCain was. Patriot my ass. He’s nothing but a lying traitor RINO.

              • Guys. There isn’t one of those turds in D.C. you can trust. For money or power they will turn on you in a heart beat.

                CW 2 is coming. Just be ready. With Gun Control, After birth abortions, and getting rid of the electoral college. There will be states, and People with NO Representation. They will leave the Union, or become REBELS, and will strike at the heart of the beast that is destroying the Republic.

                Sgt.

                • Amen.

                • It’s looking like you might be correct Sgt. Dale.

                  God save the Republic!

                  This is my last post here, so watch out fur dem hogs!

                  • S W

                    You aren’t leaving the site are you? If so I’ll miss you my friend.

                    All I can say is My God Bless You and Yours. Aim Small and Miss Small. and of course “Watch out fur dem HOGS.
                    Sgt.

      27. I’ve had enough of the dems nonsense. They are taking us closer to lock and load time which none of us want, but when this happens, there will not be any rules of engagement or prisoners taken, so I say kill all of them, and their families, and let God sort it out! All dems are a cancer to this nation, and this cancer shall be eradicated swiftly and violently!

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