Second Ukraine Whistleblower Comes Forward With “Firsthand Knowledge”

by | Oct 7, 2019 | Conspiracy Fact and Theory, Headline News | 19 comments

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    This article was originally published by Tyler Durden at ZeroHedge. 

    A second intelligence community whistleblower who doesn’t think Joe Biden should be investigated for corruption has come forward with “first-hand” knowledge of complaints against President Trump’s efforts to encourage Ukraine to do so.

    The second whistleblower, represented by the same team of attorneys as the first one, has reportedly spoken with the intelligence community inspector general, Michael Atkinson. According to ABC News, they have not spoken with Rep. Adam Schiff’s (D-CA) House Intelligence Committee like the first whistleblower. It is unknown if they are also a CIA employee or a registered Democrat.

    “I can confirm that my firm and my team represent multiple whistleblowers,” said Andrew Bakaj – the lead attorney for the first whistleblower (and who worked for both Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer – and donated to Joe Biden).

    Mark Zaid, another attorney representing the initial whistleblower, said that a second whistleblower has come forward with firsthand knowledge of some of the allegations described in the initial complaint, which describe efforts by Mr. Trump to press his Ukrainian counterpart to investigate a political rival. –WSJ

    That said, we’ve all read the original whistleblower complaint and the transcript of the phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in which Trump clearly does not use pressure or offer a quid pro quo as originally claimed. It will be interesting to discover what additional insight the second whistleblower can provide.

    Attorney Mark Zaid who represents the second whistleblower said that both officials have the full protection of the law.

    The New York Times on Friday cited anonymous sources in reporting that a second intelligence official was weighing whether to file his own former complaint and testify to Congress. Zaid says he does not know if the second whistleblower he represents is the person identified in the Times report.

    According to the first whistleblower, more than a half a dozen U.S. officials have information relevant to the investigation — suggesting the probe could widen even further. –ABC News

    ABC News peddles a recent lie put forward by House Democrats last week about the Trump-Zelensky phone call – namely that Trump asked Ukraine to investigate Biden as a ‘favor’:

    “A transcript released by the White House of Trump’s July 25 call with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskiy showed Trump asking a “favor” of the foreign leader and pushing him to launch an investigation into the Biden family. ” -ABC News

    Wrong, a reading of the transcript reveals that the ‘favor’ Trump asked for was only in relation to the DNC’s missing server and the DNC contractor Crowdstrike who analyzed it. Biden is mentioned later in the call, and nowhere near the ‘favor’ asked.

    Zelensky then responds, noting that he is fighting corruption and has a reliable team of investigators, and approximately 300 words later in the transcript Trump mentions Biden, long-divorced from the “favor.”

    “There’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son,” Trump says, before suggesting Zelensky’s people contact Attorney General William Barr on the matter. “a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the attorney general would be great.”

    Notably, the Wall Street Journal did not conflate the ‘favor’ comment with Biden.

    And while Congressional Democrats have used the above as part of an impeachment inquiry against President Trump, they seem to be uninterested in allegations against the Bidens. What this does feel like is ‘Kavanaugh 2.0’ where we’re about to meet an endless stream of accusers seemingly trotted out to bolster an original flimsy claim.


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      1. One side assumes that Hunter Biden is a useless eater. (Self explanatory.)

        The other side assumes that foreign powers are entitled to our logistical support, with no favors being asked, in return. (Quid pro quo. Oh, no.)

        Either way, there was no legitimate need for so much diplomacy, between two free and self sufficient markets. Russia, Ukraine, China, and America all have technology and energy. So, there was no material need for the intrigue.

        The second leaker is now presumed to be Bolton (or whomever is at odds, against the administration.) Codename ‘red herring’.

      2. The Dem’s just want to slowly release the criminal “whistleblowers” These people ARE the deep state and enemies of the Americcan peole.
        Trump issued the Transcript immediately – we have what he said word for word – This is all Kabuki theater.

        The Democratic party will cease to exist as a national party after the complete 2020 blow-out!! They have nothing and No viable canidate – LIZZY Warren – REALLY – HA

        • Please fix this site once and for all

      3. Posts are stuck in moderation.

      4. The dimocraps are accusing President Trump of What Biden actually is Guilty of. The transcript proves the wistle blowers are Liars. Schff is a 4 Pinoccio Liar. The Dimocraps are guilty of Mis Feasance Mal Feasance & Non Feasance.. Simply put they are Traitors attempting a Coup. The military needs to round them up and ship them to GITMO. Put them in those outdoor kennels. strip them naked. feed them on bread and water. and hose them off with a garden hose every day.

      5. Scumbag Dems….they need to be indicted for treason; and Executed.!!!!

      6. Look at the polling, look at the slow trickle of Republicans who are denouncing Trump as it becomes a landslide. Crime is crime, and anyone who claims to be for “law and order” but excuses criminal actions on the part of their leaders is in for a rude awakening. Remember, Nixon had solid support right up until the moment he didn’t.

      7. I heard it from a guy, who heard it from a guy, who heard it from his brother in law, who heard it from Mac Salvo, who heard it from Hillary Clinton, who heard it from the Ghost of John McLame, that Trump said that he was going to nuke the Ukraine unless they sent him a doz. bagels from Kiev.


      8. I know who the other whistle blowers are; Pee Wee Herman, Batman, George Soreass, Evita, Che’, and Barack Insane Obama.

        The whole “thing” is utter nonsense

      9. To hell with the ‘whistleblowers’. Trump has the authority to have Biden investigated so they can go pound sand.

      10. The ‘whistleblowers’ and everyone else crying can go pound sand. Trump has the authority to have Biden or anyone else investigated for that matter. Their real reason for crying is because Biden was Obama’s VP.

      11. No one believes the first “whistleblower” story, there probably was not a whistleblower to begin with anyway. To salvage the official narrative it was inevitable a second whistleblower had to be manufactured in an effort to give the first whistleblower story credibility. This is incredibly transparent and amateurish, it shows desperation on the Demo.s part; rather, the de*p state that is.
        The Demo.s and d*ep state are guilty of the very crimes and much more (the Pres. did not actually commit any of those particular crimes). The Demo.s and de*p state are in a corner where they cannot acknowledge their level of unprecedented hypocrisy without completely destroying their entire argument. If that isn’t enough, they believe Amer.s do not see through this whole breathtaking god-awful farce.
        It’s obvious to see they are motivated by unbridled and unhinged hatred, and the utterly intolerable fact an outsider is Pres. They hate the Pres., and they viscerally, pathologically hate all those who voted for him.
        The d*ep state is like a monolithic terr*ri$t organization: 1) they intentionally mislead, lie, manipulate, fabricate, and propagandize on a vast scale to control public opinion; in fact, it is policy, 2) the goals of the de*p state do not exist on behalf of all citizens, it is for the benefit of a small few, and 3) false flag operations are hatched and carried out in an effort to influence public sentiment when officials (minions of the d*ep state) are not successful in achieving certain goals legislatively.
        There is no telling how far they will go as their plans are frustrated again and again. As election time gets closer and closer do not be surprised by any measure employed to impeach DT. They know they must remove DT from office because they already are aware he will win again. Before DT becomes a lame duck later in his second term and therefore will have little to lose, maybe he will finish his presidency in a dramatic way by striking crushing blows against the de*p state / PTB.

      12. When Dems read something about Trump they see what they want to see. When people come out of the blue saying they have “firsthand knowledge” with nothing but hot air to back it up, the Dems believe it, call it credible and their lap-dog media sycophants start calling for crucifixion. But, when a Dem gets caught red-handed doing something illegal, with supporting documentation and corroborating witnesses, the Dems say it’s fake, not credible, and partisan…and their media stooges fall in line. Never fails. This is how desperate the Dems have become…manufacturing “scandals” and hoping that it will keep people from voting for Trump in 2020. Pathetic.

      13. Not sure if this will go through as my post don’t seem to get on the site.

        This is pretty straight forward.
        Did Trump as Ukraine to investigate? Yes, POTUS admitted this in his call summary.

        Did POTUS hold back Ukraine arms approved by Congress. The GOP is not denying this and the Dems in Congress are saying yes. The text message also suggest he held back arms.

        The two open questions are:
        Did POTUS hold back arms to get Ukraine to investigate. The text messages say yes and no. Reading the text messages, my guy tells me yes.
        The other open question is do you care? I personally think we’re close enough to the election that the US citizens should vote if they care. But I can understand why law and order folks would push for Trump and Biden to both be investigated.

      14. Test. Trying to figure out why my replies never go through.

      15. Now that the phone call transcript has been printed, why not have 1,000 people study it and trot out 1,000 witnesses. The Demonrats do not believe in due process. They make continual allegations with no real judicial case and their buddies in the media jump to continual confusions. IDIOCRACY began as a comedy and has become a documentary of U.S. Govt.

      16. That’s not a whistle he is blowing!!!!!!

      17. Whistle blower my butt, these are gossips. Impeach first, find or fabricate a crime later.

      18. In point of fact, the First whistle blower has never come forward.
        The guy(?) making the accusations is not the whistle blower – he is merely repeating hearsay. False witness if you will.
        What you are witnessing is a coup attempt but they are screwing with the wrong guy. Make sure you have plenty of beer and pretzels my friends. This is going to get verwy interwesting (as Elmer Fudd would say)

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