Paul Craig Roberts: “War On Truth Against Those Who Challenge Their Lies”

by | Nov 28, 2016 | Conspiracy Fact and Theory, Headline News | 91 comments

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    This article was written by Paul Craig Roberts and originally published at

    Editor’s Comment: The “Fake News” campaign is very definitely an Orwellian form of oppression. Not only are the powers-that-be in Washington and social media censoring speech and preparing to wipe dissenting thought off the face of the Internet as we know it, but they are also turning logic and communication on its end in order to label “truth” as a “lie,” and to up-list “lies” as the “truth” and the only authorized point of view.

    If free speech does become an extinct entity, there will, of course, be no more holding anyone to account, no check at all on the usurpation of power, and the corruption will spill over… but can something as ridiculous as “fake news” work to convince the Sheeple? Don’t count on reason or common sense to prevail.

    “Governments Are Running Out Of Excuses” Paul Craig Roberts Exposes “The Western War On Truth”

    by Paul Craig Roberts

    The “war on terror” has simultaneously been a war on truth. For fifteen years—from 9/11 to Saddam Hussein’s “weapons of mass destruction” and “al Qaeda connections,” “Iranian nukes,” “Assad’s use of chemical weapons,” endless lies about Gadaffi, “Russian invasion of Ukraine”—the governments of the so-called Western democracies have found it essential to align themselves firmly with lies in order to pursue their agendas. Now these Western governments are attempting to discredit the truthtellers who challenge their lies.

    Russian news services are under attack from the EU and Western presstitutes as purveyors of “fake news.Abiding by its Washington master’s orders, the EU actually passed a resolution against Russian media for not following Washington’s line. Russian President Putin said that the resolution is a “visible sign of degradation of Western society’s idea of democracy.”

    As George Orwell predicted, telling the truth is now regarded by Western “democratic” governments as a hostile act. A brand new website,, has just made its appearance condemning a list of 200 Internet websites that provide news and views at variance with the presstitute media that serves the governments’ agendas. Does’s funding come from the CIA, the National Endowment for Democracy, George Soros?

    I am proud to say that is on the list.

    In the West those who disagree with the murderous and reckless policies of public officials are demonized as “Russian agents.” The president-elect of the United States himself has been designated a “Russian agent.”

    This scheme to redefine truthtellers as propagandists has backfired. The effort to discredit truthtellers has instead produced a catalogue of websites where reliable information can be found, and readers are flocking to the sites on the list. Moreover, the effort to discredit truthtellers shows that Western governments and their presstitutes are intolerant of truth and diverse opinion and are committed to forcing people to accept self-serving government lies as truth.

    Clearly, Western governments and Western media have no respect for truth, so how can the West possibly be democratic?

    The presstitute Washington Post played its assigned role in the claim promoted by Washington that the alternative media consists of Russian agents. Craig Timberg, who appears devoid of integrity or intelligence, and perhaps both, is the WaPo stooge who reported the fake news that “two teams of independent researchers” – none of whom are identified – found that the Russians exploited my gullibility, that of CounterPunch, Professor Michel Chossudosky of Global Researh, Ron Paul, Lew Rockwell, Justin Raimondo and that of 194 other websites to help “an insurgent candidate” (Trump) “claim the White House.”

    Note the term applied to Trump – “insurgent candidate.” That tells you all you need to know. You can read here what passes as “reliable reporting” in the presstitute Washington Post, and here.

    Glenn Greenwald of The Intercept, which somehow escaped inclusion in The 200, unloads on Timberg and the Washington Post here.

    Western governments are running out of excuses. Since the Clinton regime, the accumulation of war crimes committed by Western governments exceed those of Nazi Germany. Millions of Muslims have been slaughtered, dislocated, and dispossessed in seven countries. Not a single Western war criminal has been held accountable.

    The despicable Washington Post is a prime apologist for these war criminals. The entire Western print and TV media is so heavily implicated in the worst war crimes in human history that, if justice ever happens, the presstitutes will stand in the dock with the Clintons, George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, Obama and their neocon operatives or handlers as the case may be.

    . . . . . . . . .

    This article was written by Paul Craig Roberts and originally published at

    Dr. Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal. He was columnist for Business Week, Scripps Howard News Service, and Creators Syndicate. He has had many university appointments. His internet columns have attracted a worldwide following. Roberts’ latest books are The Failure of Laissez Faire Capitalism and Economic Dissolution of the West, How America Was Lost, and The Neoconservative Threat to World Order.


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      1. Jesus said, ” I am the way the truth, and the life”.

        If The Left can manage to prove that the recall in Wisconsin is valid, or fix it to look like it was rigged, WILL OBAMA SUSPEND THE RESULTS and stay because there was no clear winner? Riots-riots everywhere!!!!

        • Not going to happen.

          The election would move into the House of Representatives and they would cast their ballots, one vote for each state. A majority decides.

          • If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.

            Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Germany.

            • It then becomes morally vital for the people to fight with all their lives against all lies.

        • I don’t get to visit Mac’s site here as often as I once did, nor as often as I’d like. But it’s still a kick-ass place. Especially the comments section. Mac leaves it as wide open as possible and yet it rarely degenerates into childish tit-for-tat rants between those who post. For example, I enjoy Alex Jones’s stuff (even if I don’t believe it all) but I won’t even bother with the comments section. It’s too much like a grade-school playground.
          SHTFplan is different. Sure, there’s a bit of name-calling but nothing like some other sites. Most people stick to the information presented rather than the one who wrote it. Whether one supports the ideas posted or attacks them, it’s good to have a place for debate where the focus is on the IDEAS, not the writer.
          We’ve had countless personal conflicts here over the years but rarely is anyone permanently booted from the site. As far as disputes go, a recent case in point is Zeus and Old Guy. They have their differences and (occasionally) a comment is deleted by Mac. Still, they return with new posts focusing on the IDEAS, not a verbal assault on each other. So, Mac keeps posting their stuff. I think that’s good.
          I don’t know if I agree with Zeus on everything, but he’s posted lots of interesting thoughts, and provided links or search terms so we can go investigate on our own. Same with Old Guy. None of his comments have turned me to the point I’d skip over his stuff. I still read it all.
          I’m not trying to be a Rodney King type (can’t we all just get along?) In fact, I enjoy a bit of verbal scuffling, just not to the level of WWE 🙂 My point is this- even though a person can’t take both sides on an issue, maybe he can learn from what both are saying. For that, I salute Mac and this wonderful site. (the suck up alert meter is dangerously high, I’d better go back to being my cranky self.)
          Meanwhile- to everyone here: Carry On!

          • SmokinOkie, I can’t prove this, but Zeus sounds a lot like WWTI. Go back to some of WWTI’s posts and compare them to Zeus. WWTI used to take certain positions that I agreed with but he was always showing his rear end. Zeus got my dander up with his derogatory comment about Cuban exiles on the last thread so I let him have it both barrels and you know it’s RARE for me to get like that on here. I’ve been close to WWE-level verbal scuffling several times myself but only because someone gave me reason to do so. Other than that, I always enjoy some lively discussion as long as we can keep it civil and I always do my best to stay that way. Take care.

            • I know what you mean. Years past, I had a few go-rounds with some here myself. I usually got my ass handed to me but, hey, at least I learned from it! And, like you, I still enjoy the ideas presented.
              By the way, how’s your wife’s family reacting to Fidel’s death? They having a party? Planning to go pee on his grave? Or just relieved?

              • Smokin, they’ve been celebrating all weekend and just now settling down from that. The whole exile community is ecstatic and couldn’t be happier right now.

                • If people on this site get worked up over a little bit of trolling, then how do they expect to make it when SHTF happens?

                  Sometimes people need to be told off. Sometimes agreeing and encouraging is warranted.

                  But if you are so vain or thin skinned as to get angry or hurt over a rude comment by some anonymous person on the other side of the world, then God help you when you are faced with a crisis.

                  Good post SmokinOkie

                  • JS, your points are well-taken by me, but when zeus made his crack about ‘old emotional Cubans” on that last thread, I blew up. Most criticisms of me I let slide, but that crack was just too serious to let go. He made mention of my late wife, all my in-laws, and people I used to work with, shared many good and bad times with, peole who were uprooted from their homes and nation by a ruthless commie dictator who had nothing but evil intentions toward them. Zeus doesn’t have the first clue what those people had been through and never will. What he was talking about is much more serious than he’ll ever know. He’s never been through something like that. the day is coming when he’ll learn…..the HARD way. I’m not vain or thin-skinned. His little crack was uncalled for.

                • I’ve never met anyone who lived through the time of Cuba’s commie revolution. But I have read that Cuba, a year or two before Fidel, had a thriving economy. They had the second highest rate of movie theaters (per capita) in the world. US was number one. If people have time and money for leisure they’re probably in a good economy. Fidel changed all that, stunting their growth for half a century.

                  • Smokin, Cuba had one of the best economies in all of Latin America and the Carribbean BEFORE Castro. Batista was no angel and was certainly a tyrant, but Fidel and Raul have made Batista look like a Boy Scout. at least under batista people had a better standard of living. yes, fidel ruined everything.

            • SmokinOkie, I can prove this. Deplorable Braveheart is the same whining 60 YO child as Braveheart1776. He changed his name, but you can go back and check. When he get his dander fluffed he cries like a child to the site host looking for special attention. I suggest we hand out a daily Baby Rattle Award. Anytime Bravefart wants a dual as his big fat mouth suggests, you will need both barrels. Lets see if he has any balls to back up his BS. Why would a whiny child call himself Brave.. LMFAO!!!

          • This is the only site that I comment on.

            Other sites want you to set up an account or sign in through social media. All you need to comment here is a made-up email address.

            • arch, If you have any carlie-c grocery stores in your area, 18 large eggs, 98 cents, bought 13, 3 in the frig for CHRISTMAS and 10 in the freezer. Hope u had a good holiday. d. b. r.

              • how do you freeze eggs?

                How do you using them after they have been frozen?

          • I like your idea of comments turning me to the point of skipping over stuff. Good Advice. Being Eppe is gone heres a Christmas joke. A guy and his wife went Christmas shopping at the mall. They became separated. She called his cell phone. asked where he was. He replied remember that jewelry store where they had that diamond necklace you wanted ten years ago and I couldn’t afford it? Tears of joy welling in her eyes she said I remember. He stated im in the gun store next to it.

            • That’s funny! Eppe’s probably looking down and smiling 🙂

            • Old Guy, good one. Thanks for that joke. EPPE, REST IN PEACE. YOU ARE NOT FORGOTTEN.

              • WHO?

          • Companyyyyyyy; FALL OUT! (Dismissed)

      2. “Millions of Muslims have been slaughtered”

        Mmm no. Not by Western Govts.

        Spare me your stupid website rebuttals that include EVERY.FUCKING.DEATH in Arab lands as a war death in the first place and have numbers that go something like 30,000 – 2,000,000 as though that GIGANTIC f-ing discrepancy is legitimate beyond a wild ass guess.

        • NunyaBidness……Your comment is very accurate. Bravo to your intellect. Now go and fuck yourself idiot.

          • You retorted beautifully. Bravo to your quick wit and fearless rebuttal. Now get on your knees and suck my fat dick.

        • The whole world would be a much better place if all islamic savages were dead.

          • And Zionists too, which are worse than mussys. Trump needs to kick AIPAC out of America for good. Way too much control and bribery on our political system. Drain the Swamp Trump. Do what you say.

            • Trump will not do even a tenth of what he said he would do. No building of the wall, no draining of the swamp, no conviction for Clitary, no repealing of Obolacare, etc. He has only one choice, that is to be a good puppet for his elite masters. Otherwise they will terminate him. Reagan learned his lesson. JFK, well, all presidents since JFK have learned that lesson.

              • Obamacare will go because the House and Senate have enough votes to do it without Trump now, so long he does not veto it.

              • I am not a denialist Im realistic and Trumps vision almost seems too good to be true. Certainly Trump will not succeed in a lot of the things he said he would do. Unless he tries to be dictator and legislate from the oval office by executive order he must have congress change the laws and write new ones. Its through congresses approval or dissent that stuff happens. Now he can appoint right leaning pro USA cabinet members and supreme court justices. However why attack before he even takes office? But I think the world wide debt Ponzi Scheme will collapse soon. But I never thought it would last as long as it has. So I am gonna keep prepping for events I hope never happen.

          • Cult followers of moehamate killed 270 million people in 1400 years = 528 people per day = 22 per hour. Casualties of allahballahbingbam = 9 times more than stalin and hitler together

        • Nunya, I challenge you to give us the number. How many innocent people have been killed by the US military since ‘Shock and Awe’? If you have the man stuff…

          • 6 people, and they were fellow soldiers.

            Dick Chaney said it best when he was Defense Secretary in the first Gulf War.

            He said that if a wife made the husband a sandwich for lunch and the husband went to the factory to make bombs for Saddam Hussein, then we will kill her too.

            For some unknown reason you can kill only people shooting at you. In WWII we killed EVERYBODY. Just remember Dresden Germany or Nagasaki.

            In my opinion, if you are a citizen of a country that America is at war with, then you should be killed too because you are supporting the enemy. Either by paying taxes or supporting the regime by compliance.

            In war, you should kill everybody.

      3. It is a sad commentary on American media when one of the sites that I go to for information is RT, a site I avoided assiduously in years gone by. ?

        • Whatever Works- well said.
          And it’s sad that the truth is so hard to find in modern media. While it’s good to have the option of analyzing different views, as I alluded to in a post above, when dealing with the so-called mainstream media it seems there’s more fly specks than black pepper (anon- THAT was funny!).
          Just sorting the garbage seems to be overwhelming.
          And what IS the truth?
          Pilate asked that very question of Jesus.
          The answer was provided several hours prior to his appearance before Pilate. At the last supper Jesus, in praying to the Father on behalf of his disciples, said, “Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.” (John 17:17)
          Jesus was the very embodiment of truth. The Word of God (truth) made flesh. He is our example to follow in every situation. And he taught us to turn the other cheek. That is- not to condone evil, but to leave it to God to carry out retribution for evil.
          But that’s so much easier said than done. I still inhabit this human body. And it makes me want to see the politicians and media whores of our day all hanging from the lamp posts. I know I’m not supposed to hate them, but their lies are so pervasive, so insidious, so outrageous! It tempts me to hate the liar rather than the lies.
          And that brings me right back to my own position before I knew Christ. I too, was a liar, a thief, a sinner of the first magnitude. And yet God, in his infinite wisdom, chose to have mercy on me. Why? I guess that won’t be answered til I get to heaven. Meanwhile, I’ll try to keep hating the lies… but not the liars. It ain’t easy though…

          • “Vengeance is mine,” sayeth the Lord. But nowhere in that statement does it restrict him to the tools of vengeance he might use. He is the giver of ultimate vengeance but that doesn’t mean we can’t take care of a few preliminaries for Him down here like maybe string up a few pedophiles and their friends and defenders in the media. Hate the sin but love the sinner? Not on our watch.

        • Actually RT, Moscow times, and Pravda can be
          good sources of information. The trick is to
          Use your brain and evaluate the data you are
          getting. When reading foreign media,
          stay on their internal domestic stories
          and blow off most of the political stuff.
          The same is not true for American mainstream
          media, I always assume everything I read is
          suspicious and is virtually always wrong
          whatever they report on.

      4. Ya know what,,,
        Wake me up when we get to the other side,,,
        Am sick of this crap, going to just concentrate on stuff that i can do something about.
        Like christmas decorations, making a dining table, working on the house im remodeling, puttering on the farm.
        KF out

        • Nailbanger

          Yep, things are just sick as hell. Finding the truth is like trying to pick the fly shit out of the pepper.


          • Great Quote!

          • Hey…. ‘anon’ – give yourself a nickname. I’ve not heard the expression you used similar to what I grew up with in ages. Originally from Kansas, we say, “sort the flyshit from the pepper”. You a Mid-Western boy or girl?

            • Heartless.

              Had a different name before but I like this one.

              Over the years, including military, I have heard many great sayings. I live in Florida. Many times you hear the words but the meaning goes deeper.

              Like, “That dog won’t hunt”. Now you can read the words but the meaning isn’t truly conveyed until it is verbalized. Then you get the message.

              • Kinda like, well tie me to an ant hill and smear my ears with jam.

                • Nuckinfuts.

                  Have to be Fire Ants. Nothing else will do. ;0)

      5. They say we’re ‘sophisticated Russian propagandists?’ I am appalled! How dare they call us sophisticated!

        • I want to get some hats made up, with ‘Sophisticated Russian Propagandist’ on them.

          • If I’m a Russian propagandist, then I want a Russian woman.

            • With large breasts! and not fat.

              • Menzo, LOL. Good one.

            • Russian women would laugh at you Deplorable. You need to settle for an emotional Cuban.

            • Braveheart; don’t you mean a Deplorable Sophisticated Russian Propagandist? (Or am I too unsophisticated to understand)?

      6. Has anybody noticed that Fidel Castro still has a better complexion than Hillary Clinton?

        • Yes. Her appearance gives me a sick feeling.

        • yep ole cankles is a double bagger. You need two one to hide her face and the other to barf into.

          • Old Guy.

            That is an oldie but goodie. LOL.

          • ‘Paper or plastic?”

      7. I wonder how much old mad Vlad Putin pays his trolls? Is it in U.S. currency of Russian? Heck, I’ll even take a case of two of Beet Vodka! (sarcasm)

      8. 1: They’re going to become more and more desperate as Trump minimizes them. Good.

        2: Just installed adblock plus; I can now actually read and navigate this site.

      9. Everything you wanted to know about electoral college gambit and voter fraud:

        Excellent summary of the latest gambit by the left re. electoral college. Short, well-done. Won’t be in the real fake news (CNN, MSNBC, etc.) any time soon…


        Fake news? Try this on for size: “Our job is to give people not what they want, but what we decide they ought to have.” – Former CBS News president Richard Salant, quoted from You Don’t Say, by Fred Gielow, Freedom Books, 1999

      10. 3rd attempt to get the real facts posted here about Standing Rock Water Protectors. You know “Fairness in Reporting.”

        I will repost this again, since the Site Host hates Facts AND REBUTTAL. OldGuy you are so far from any truth or facts as you obviously hate Indians with your John Wayne mentality.

        Here is the facts RE: Standing Rock Protests. it is not about Indians controlling all the water it is about the control of their own drinking water. But hey who wants the facts as it is more convenient to spew hate and nonsense for giggles.

        Pipeline route moved south of Bismarck partly because of drinking water contamination concerns
        By Amy Dalrymple on Aug 19, 2016 at 7:16 a.m.

        BISMARCK — An early proposal for the Dakota Access Pipeline called for the project to cross the Missouri River north of Bismarck, but one reason that route was rejected was its potential threat to Bismarck’s water supply, documents show.

        Now a growing number of protesters are objecting to the oil pipeline’s Missouri River crossing a half-mile north of the Standing Rock Sioux Reservation, which they argue could threaten the water supply for the tribe and other communities downstream.


        Early in the planning process, Dakota Access considered but eliminated an alternative that would have crossed the Missouri River about 10 miles north of Bismarck instead of the route currently under construction.
        The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers evaluated the Bismarck route and concluded it was not a viable option for many reasons. One reason mentioned in the agency’s environmental assessment is the proximity to wellhead source water protection areas that are avoided to protect municipal water supply wells.

        In addition, the Bismarck route would have been 11 miles longer with more road crossings and waterbody and wetland crossings. It also would have been difficult to stay 500 or more feet away from homes, as required by the North Dakota Public Service Commission, the Corps of Engineers states.

        The Bismarck route also would have crossed an area considered by federal pipeline regulators as a “high consequence area,” which is an area determined to have the most significant adverse consequences in the event of a pipeline spill.

        The Standing Rock Sioux Tribe argues that consequences would be severe if the 30-inch pipeline carrying 450,000 barrels of oil per day were to leak near the reservation’s water intake valves. The tribe is suing the Corps of Engineers over its approval of the water crossing. A hearing is scheduled for next week in Washington, D.C.



        • Your comments are being deleted when they attack other users. It is not a matter of “fairness in reporting.” Rather, your repeated disparagement of other users is why they are not showing up.

          I sincerely appreciate the updates and insights. However, as noted when you were posting under your previous user name, if you are going to treat people like garbage we will continue to move those comments into the trash bin where they belong.


          • Mac, somehow I just knew that was WWTI posting under another name. Do as you see fit. You have my support.

            • Well It seems since eppie is gone. The Troll has made me his arch enemy. To be fair I tend to be a bit abrasive at times. A natural born Curmudgeion if you will. That’s oK Ive got a thick skin. My wife has made me inpervious to insults and criticism over more than 4 decades. She stated you doing that thing that irritates me. I reply whats that? She replys breathing. Actually some of my ancestors are from the Dakotas. Man Dan and Minot areas. They came from Sweden and helped fight the plains indian wars in the 1800,s. I still have relatives in that region. I simply don’t believe the pipeline will effect the water. I myself have worked on pipelines. I ran dozer & sideboom. We crossed some really big rivers. We used a jointed pipe that has sealed joints that can bend. We drug dragline buckets across the river bottom removing silt and debris. We eventually carved a deep trench. Then pulled the jointed pipe across with plugs at each end. Wheen it was in place we filled it with water and it sank into the trench. The river current would cover the pipe in a short tme. We had valves at each end connection and air pressure checked the crossing. They check the crossings at regular intervals. And If there is a leak any oil would immediately float to the top of the water. It would not enter the aquifers. And crude oil is a natural thing. just like a snakes poison or a million other natural things that possibly may be harmful to organic life.

              • No Old Guy, Just calling out your BS Racist Hatful LIES, RE: Standing Rock Souix Indians. You are disgusting. Facts suggest Oil Pipelines leak. Happens all the time. You don’t know crap about environmental issues dirt shoveler. If Oil is so Natural go drink a glass of 10W-30 and tell us how natural it tastes. Are you senile?

            • Seconded and supported as well. (Otherwise said, I agree with the deplorable guy above).

          • Oh, and what about the rest of your regulars that post crap about me? One way street? They flat out lie, then you refuse to post the rebuttal with facts, and days goes by so the lie keep being dragged around. This is all about the Truth in reporting. Every time you let a lie go by for days and you refuse to post the truth of the matter, you are doing a disservice too, your readers. Like Trump said, we don’t have time for political correctness. So lets get on board posting the truth. Or get on a few more lists like this one in the story.

            • The rest of the regulars don’t usually initiate the attacks and often engage in cordial and civilized conversation.

              As I noted, the information you post is valuable, but there is no need to demean people who may disagree with you or not have all the facts.

              If you aim to inform, please feel free to do so, but refrain from insulting. It’s the repeated insults that are the problem.

              That’s really all we ask here. Other than that, it’s pretty much an open forum.



              • Mac its your website so you get to make the rules. Delete any of my post you want. I promise I will not whine and cry and act like the hellery supporters are doing. If I had known who he previously was I wouldn’t have responded. From now on I will not read his post.

                • old Guy, I can’t prove it, but zeus sounds like WWTI. Just compare some of WWTI’s posts to zeus and you’ll see what I mean. I’ll try to ignore him myself from now on if possible.

      11. We really have to discredit any report from anonymous sources. I quit reading when the term anonymous sources pops up. Step up or shut up and stop obvious dis-unification for agenda purposes. If we were really free we could use our real names here and not have to worry about operational security from mega data collection or subjective reports from anonymous sources. The only freedom I see in this attack on news uncontrolled by the global elites is the actual list of alternative news sites. There are reasons we have developed norms that progressive thinking dislike. It reminds me of the old saying “better learn from others mistakes because you won’t live long enough to make them all yourself”. Norms develop organically to prevent chaos as opposed to controlled narrative norms induced to promote an agenda. I call them GMO norms. I’ll bet the southern manner of yes Sir, and no Ma’am will be the next GMO norm as some perversion of the term racist, a micro aggression or something else. So goes respect, something we are already highly deficient in and starting to suffer badly for it. Respect is an organically produced norm just like news sites not controlled by global elite are supplanting controlled narrative GMO news. The reason is simple. Truth earns respect.

      12. Let’s be clear: every single one of those Muslims got what they deserved. THEY were the ones who started this thing with the 9/11 attacks. Yes, we have paid them back many times over but that is what happens. We absolutely devastated Germany in WWII and we do not need to apologize for that either.

        You start a fight, don’t come crying to mommy if I hammer out your teeth, snap your spindly wrists, and kick out your ankles. I WILL do what I have to do to protect myself. And that goes for the West. Attack us; we f#ck you back ten times over. Probably one of the proudest things I have witnessed these past eight years is seeing a handsome black president fight back even harder against Muslims.

        Truth is, there is only one civilized state in the Middle East and that is Israel. That state needs to be protected and that means taking down all the Muslims states and clearing out much of their populations. They over-populated themselves, getting fat on oil and gas profits. But that stuff is running out and we do not need them. Europe and Canada can hand pick the best if they want them for reproduction purposes etc. but screw the rest of them. Send them more weapons and let them finish the job they started.

        • Frank, you really need to pull your head out of your arse and come up and get some air.
          For one thing, the “muslims” didn’t do a damn thing to us on 9/11. It was a set up by our own government to kick off “the war on terror” to get us into a never ending war and to also set us up for the current police state we are dealing with.
          I have no use for Islam but killing innocent people, no matter if they are men, women or children, is still murder, regardless of the reason you use. And I would use caution when refering to Israel as the only civilized country in the middle east. Israel has more than enough blood on it’s hands to be looked up to.
          You really do need to do some research on what really happened in New York on 9/11. Stop taking the governments word for things and start asking some honest questions, and use your brain for once.

          Mr. Charlie out.

      13. They have told the same old lies for years, and it will take years to correct those lies. Right now time is on our side!

      14. didn’t know I was a Russian tool! Pass the vodka please Das va danya!

      15. This US government cabal considers every human their enemy. The truth will prevail. Try as hard as they like, freedom of speech is a universal right and cannot be stopped.

        • You know fellas, and ladies of course: I am long-past getting a “GUT feeling” that ALL of what that is happening within The USA (and outside of her), REALLY IS POINTING to The USA being “pressed really frigging hard” to dispense with Republicans/Democrats (etc).

          But rather, (and considering the stunning growth of The Police State …more are wearing BDU’s than “Blues” (imho), we are being quietly “steered” in a direction that NOT A ONE OF US is going to like, but we may well find ourselves all but helpless to stop it.

          There is A LOT of evidence “on the streets” and “in the courts” that are sort of a “prelude” to a big if not massive change in the way America “works.” (And it would not take a whole bunch of FORCED CHANGES by The Feds to bring “A WHOLE NEW WAY” to Americans, like it or not).

          What Hillary is attempting is just another misleading road so that nobody will go after them for pedophile ‘stuff’, war crimes, lies galore, lies galore on all Major Medias (and you KNOW they are terrified when they are trying to shut down all sites who are posting Truths (whether in full or in part, does it make that much of a difference)? Not really.

          I guess I am saying, “Don’t relax.” Obviously, this is FAR from being over, and so I THINK (I said “think”), there is way more to this than is meeting the eye, and we are NOT going to like what we will eventually learn to be “truth” (behind the scenes), right now.

          Follow me Braveheart The Deplorable? (I can’t find the right danged words…). “They are “pulling the wool” over our eyes as they prepare to TRY TO FORCE A NEW WORLD ORDER SYSTEM upon us. They can’t do it with Trump, but with Hillary it would be a ‘snap’.

      16. Newsbud’s Sibel Edmonds has several articles on Glenn Greenwald’s “Checkbook Journalism” at this link. one of which is below:
        “Pando Exposé: Glenn Greenwald’s Boss, Billionaire Omidyar, Co-Funded Ukraine Revolution Groups with US Government”

        Sibel Edmonds | March 1, 2014

        Greenwald is one of many “liberal” Checkbook Journalism” sites funded by CIA fronts including USAID and NED. Democracy Now is funded by $1 million/year by George Soros, and also by the NWO Ford Foundation. Ford used it’s German Opel plant during WWII to build Hitler’s war vehicles using Auschwitz slave labor, and stated in 1920 that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion; Adam Weishaupt’s Illuminati Protocol, was in effect at that time.s This is a little off topic, but there’s a high correlation between ‘liberal’ and ‘green’, and Elon Musk’s current practice of building Tesla’s funded by billions of tax-payer dollars using 93 cent/hour prison labor is an uncomfortable parallel.
        Dr. Dennis Cuddy’s book, “The Power Elite and the Secret Nazi Plan” is online at

        It’s a discussion of the Third Reich’s alliance with the Illuminati made before the end of WWII, and its plan to return in around two generations.
        Anthony Sutton and John Loftus are two good sources on Hitler’s funding by US capitalists and bankers.
        Few US citizens are aware of the failed 1933 Business Coup, led by DuPont, to assassinate FDR and install a fascist US coup government that preceded the same business entities’ and bankers’ funding of Hitler.
        Hitler was elected by liberals who were very similar to 2016 environmentalists.

      17. How to recognize the enemy:

        The enemy seeks the destruction of the family. The enemy seeks to put your mind in the gutter with regard to sex. The enemy tries to keep you thinking about sex but not about children which is the purpose for sex. The enemy degrades women. The enemy feminizes men. The enemy tries to advance inter-racial sex and inter-racial offspring. The enemy insults your racial awareness and pride by calling it by the Marxist words that label you. The enemy practices his own form of racial identity but condemns every other group who does likewise. The enemy introduces abortion into societies. The enemy has large families but warns others of the dangers of over population. The enemy hates women who are feminine and tricks men into being attracted to boyish looking artificial transgender looking females. Tall thin long necked fatless women with artificially large breasts are more like these male pseudo women. The enemy discourages women and men from connecting the female breast to it’s connection to the human infant. Instead the breast is used as a form of enticement to cheap sex and dangerous liaisons with multiple partners devoid of meaning.

        The enemy does not want you to own land.

        The enemy does not want you to plant your own food.

        The enemy does not want competition.

        The enemy does not want you healthy.

        The enemy does not want you independent of him.

        The enemy will lie, cheat, steal, and kill without remorse.


        • B from CA.

          Good post.

        • B from CA, Now for the rest of the truth. It is Satan and his disciples who manifested this sickness you wrote about and is all true. Note that hitlary is a bonafide witch and Obamanation is well into the black arts and their followers are weak in mind not to know the difference between right from wrong nor good from bad. know it well we are in a religious war here in the Americas. As our GOD – given rights are at stake. “GOD” Will prevail and he who follows our LORD into this battle will forever be at ease in heaven, Glory to our FATHER who shall cast Satan and his disciples where they belong HELL. GOD BLESS AMERICA AND THOSE WHO STAND WITH OUR LORD.

        • NOW, does anyone have the courage to name the “ENEMY “? Or, are we going to sit quietly with our hands folded neatly on our laps? The proof is right in front of us… BUT this concern, fear, consternation about hurting someone’s feelings. Meh, hurt feelings…What say you YOU Mac? ?

      18. call it paranoia or something like it is what happens to those of us who debunk such things, I postd a y to see if it would post I posted on wnd about three times and then they demanded more info about me. and I signed up to post here but it didn’t seem to work right. I found an old website and read for months and some sites were govt docs. My computer crashed thirteen hrs and haven’t gotten a youtube on anything I read. just a blue address that can’t be linked from my former location at all. The phone refused to access a flashplayer from that location soo I have been reading for years. I seem to have read soo much I still have more questions than answers. Those religious M guys are being set up for something or is it going to be illegals from somewhere pulling some silly attack that makes no sense to anyone. Yes only young males can definitely make a great fifth wave, but going down the wrong backroad will lead to the holyland in a hurry. It will be up to us christian, flag waving homeschooling life loving americans to sort them out before God gets the chance.. But as Mel says in he patriot ” Lord make me fast and accurate”

        who have we been

      19. I think one of the worst Muslem attacks on Americans was the Knoxville murders. I bet because the girls last name was Cristian. And the mans fist name was Cristian The blacks were Muslems but the news would not report that. Chanon Cristian and Chris Newsom were horribly tortured to death. And the second floor of the night club in France were the people were tortured . Was not reported by the media. . I think things are a lot worse then we are being told. And it looks like you should not be taken alive by Muslems.

      20. We were warned about. ((( them))) 2000 years ago by Jesus recorded by John 8:44. Summary. You are like your father the devil . Lies are your greatest weapon …By deception we make war. We’re have you heard that before? The children of Satan in the synogouge of Satan. What else should we expect? Truth? They are like Muslems and taqyija or whatever . It’s ok for them to lie .we believe lieing is a sin . they don’t.

        • Makes no real diff to me, but I was under the impression that it was okay for a Muslim to lie to an infidel, but not lie to one another. Most of them prolly don’t know the answer themselves….

      21. The old saying of “fool me once, shame on you! Fool me twice, shame on me1” is valid. The more times that you can fool someone, the less respect you have for that person. The way the Democrats are acting, they believe Americans are idiots. Big surprise!

      22. Wow! Please! Russia DID occupy Crimea – a part of independent Ukraine, and it sent troops, ammunition and weapons to fight Ukrainian army fighting invading army.

        • Yah Janis, that is how I “took it” to be at the time. (I believe there’s more to come there, but Russia is ‘strange’ sometimes and very hard to discern their intentions (precisely that is).

          THEIR security isn’t full of holes like some nations we know.

      23. Nothing will ever get better until the “average Joe” insists on truth and politicians and media alike are held to account.
        It will be, as it always has in the past,
        the “average Joe” that must do this work.
        Government is only intended to represent Joe in large inter-community workings.
        The way it is working now Joe is the ‘subject’ of government and is found culpable for many things the government has no authority to control.
        who’s at fault for that?
        We are…the people, the average Joe.

      24. Well, isn’t that (the basis) of what Trump indicated he was going to do (Drain The Swamp) …which is impossible to do in this case without terminating (almost) entirely everything extant that has U.S. Government stamped on it (I’m including people too).

        Assuming nothing comes of this Election/Electoral recount, which I just read on Yahoo that Obama “threw cold water upon it” and THAT my friends means we can breathe a sigh of relief. Hurray!

        Ironically, everything we had ordered a few days back (brass, bullets, primers, powder(s) for nearly all of our calibers, arrived about one hour before it was announced there would NOT be any recount allowed. Now, where do all those millions (5 million) go? Back to the “investors” minus any ‘hidden’ fees (lawyers, bribes, printed lies, 12 times the airtime as compared to the 36-seconds she got during The Election …that musta cost a few bucks).

        I think Obama could see just how bad it reflected upon Democrats, and he doesn’t want to upset the apple-cart right before he is due to “exit stage left.” It could only be that he’s going to dump something mighty big into Trump’s lap, and he’ll do it so that it will appear to be Trump’s fault entirely. (Democrats never have failed to pull this one when a Repub gets elected …it’s just never gotten this ‘brazen’ before).

        It shows how UNSTABLE ALL OF AMERICA IS!

        VocalPatriot – you used the word “truth” in the same sentence as “politicians” …you can’t DOOOO that man. “Account” is ditto. 🙂

        Knowing Obama has no intentions of just “going away” – what’s most apt to happen next? Shootings are restarting…

      25. I guess I should mention that what was on Yahoo regarding the “recount” is NOT on FoxNews – – so “out with it” unless it comes with a hardcopy.

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