Panic Buying Grips America Ahead Of World War III: “Never Seen It At These Levels… We Can Barely Keep Up” Says Leading Preparedness Distributor

by | Aug 11, 2017 | Headline News | 233 comments

prepper-store1(Manager Ben Orr At Detroit Army Surplus Store. Photo Cred: Sandra McNeill/WWJ Newsradio 95)

As is often the case, most people wait until the last minute to prepare for the worst.

As reported by CBS Detroit, one Army Surplus store owner reports that preparedness equipment is flying off the shelves:

“We’ve been very busy. Unusually busy, I’d say,” Orr told WWJ’s Sandra McNeill. “It’s definitely an increase, just in selling all the normal prepper stuff, end of the world stuff. A lot of water prep stuff, food, MREs — the military meals.”

And there’s been a substantial increase in the sale of a particular item they don’t sell much of — a so-called radiation antidote called potassium iodide.

“It actually stops your thyroid from absorbing any radiation. So, it fills your thyroid with iodine, which it normally does anyways,” said Orr.

Another popular request: gas masks. But most people looking for those will be out of luck.

“Gas masks are a big thing too, but we only sell them as novelty,” said Orr.

Ed Thomas, a spokesperson for, which distributes high-end protective equipment for Nuclear, Biological and Chemical emergencies, says that their web site has seen a 1200% spike in orders in the last week.

We’re barely keeping up with the inflow of orders and our staff is working double shifts just to get everything shipped. People are concerned with North Korea, World War III and what President Trump might do.

I’ve never seen it at these levels.

Everything… Anti radiation pills, gas masks, body suits and respiratory filters… people are trying to get their hands on these critical supplies in case this really happens.

Our biggest concern is that our manufacturers won’t be able to keep up with demand.

And it’s not just preparedness supplies. As Zero Hedge reports, bunker sales in California have skyrocket:

While a global nuclear confrontation is generally viewed as a bad thing, for Ron Hubbard, President of Atlas Survival Shelters in Los Angeles, it has resulted in an economic windfall.  Here’s more from The Sacramento Bee:

“It’s crazy, I’ve never seen anything like it,” Ron Hubbard, president of Atlas Survival Shelters, told Fox11. “It’s all over the country. I sold shelters today in North Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Oregon, Washington, Arizona, California.”

As we’ve reported previously, the situation has gotten so serious that the island nation of Guam, recently threatened for annihilation by North Korea, has issued a nuclear emergency guide warning residents to not look at the flash or fireball following a nuclear detonation.

President Trump announced Friday that the U.S. military is “locked and loaded,” ready to respond to North Korean aggression.

With panic buying taking hold, it’s only a matter of time before prices for items like gas masks anti-radiation pills go through the roof. Following the Fukushima nuclear disaster in Japan, panicked U.S. West coast residents pushed prices for a single package to $200 on auction sites. Under normal circumstances, a package of the FDA approved pills sells for about $20.

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    1. Patriot One

      I think I’ll put an ad on craigslist to buy everyone’s emergency supplies next month. If you’re one of those buyers, you are not really serious. But hey I’ve been doing this a long time and it may be a cheap way to rotate my stock!!

      • GrandpaSpeaks

        I remember just before Y2K the generators were stacked to the roof on sale. A small sign beside them said “no returns after January 1st”. I waited for the flea markets and got three for the price of one after that non event.

        • Wilson

          There may be items I wish I had, and there may be items I’d like to get, BUT I’m good to go and I am completely at ease. Just this am my wife was asking if there was anything else we needed. Not that I know of.

          Down at the Kroger they are having a sale on canning jars. Normally $14.99/dozen on wide mouth quarts. On sale for $7.99, and with a coupon from Sunday’s paper for $3 off I just saved $10!!

          • buttcrackofdoom

            now THERE was some USEful information!

            • Jacknife

              In case you missed my comment a few articles ago, I said I think there’s a possibility that N&S Korea will unite. And JJ is a fraud.
              h ttp://

              • X7734-0845

                Gimme some dirt on the fraud

                • Jacknife

                  You obviously don’t visit here much, or you’d already know. And I don’t do dirt. Go get your own

                • laeagle


                  JJ is the real deal! Start working on your own credentials. There is no glory in putting down others and it doesn’t give you more credibility.

                  • Jacknife

                    JJ is the real deal? Are you kidding me? He hasn’t been right about anything yet so if you wanna buy into his bullshit go right ahead. And as far as my credentials go, I’m not the one who tries to be something I’m not. I don’t talk about that stuff for obvious reasons. Go on over to zero hedge and read some comments about him when they post his articles. I have my own opinions and if they don’t fit into your fantasy land narrative, so Be it. Otherwise, don’t worry about me there sonny boy. You don’t know enough to know enough.
                    Stay quiet Be smart.

          • KY Mom

            How to Use Potassium Iodide After a Nuclear Emergency

            *Click on the printable pdf version to have a copy with your medical supplies.

            ht tp://

            • CrackSummSkulls

              Once a day Potassium Iodide, pill how hard is that. They also make pills for pets. Keep your pets safe. Half doses you take twice a day. Start taking them when you see the bright light. But don’t look at it. Take cover for the aftershock. Get all the pills at CampingSurvival

      • Gandhi

        I have some old dangerous crap ? 308 win ammo I need to sell. The boollits aren’t even round. They go from .305″ to .310″ and the powder charges vary by 5 grains between boollits. But I will sell them to idiots who can’t shoot shoot well and won’t know the difference

        • buttcrackofdoom

          if you “shoot well”, it won’t MATTER if they aint round……….

          • The Deplorable Braveheart

            BCOD, damn right. SHOT PLACEMENT is the most important aspect of firearms usage. As long as you can hit your target, you’ve got it made.

            • Sucks punch

              Bravetard is a tubby low IQ keyboard warrior

              • The Deplorable Braveheart

                Sucks punch, move along sonny.

                • DSD

                  bravetard you should move along fatty

                  • buttcrackofdoom

                    boy, the trolls are out in FORCE today.

                  • The Deplorable Braveheart

                    DSD, are you sure that’s not LSD? Move along yourself, dickhead.

            • oldguy2000

              seems to me you guys need to be discussing radiation detectors? Ive not personally seen any discussion about that yet……maybe I missed it……

              • John

                you can make your own radiation detector. Look in the book Nuclear War survival skills. You can download it from the web.

            • Gandhi

              Actually speed is more important than shot placement. You need to be able to hit first. Statistics show the first guy hit usually loses even if follow up shots are needed. How can you be so wrong so often?

        • richard from willow springs

          for sale; tires worn thin on the inside with full tread on the outside half. I’ll tell wannabe racers that they are “cheater slicks.”

        • Wake-up-people

          That is a real fucking dick move to sell shit items to people, not cool. I hope a round goes off in your unethical ass face you cunt.

        • owenoman

          Very Ghandi-esque of you.

      • buttcrackofdoom

        it’s time to SELL my military gear….hell, i got 2 tuff boxes full of masks and NBC stuff, that USED to never sell at the gun show….i’m off to place an ad on craigslist…..then i will buy MORE when it all blows over…or UP!

    2. Anonymous

      And this is exactly why I prepared for years ahead of time. Had our nuke gear stocked away for exactly this kind of thing.

      Making popcorn.

      • Man on the inside

        Mmmmmmmm …. popcorn…….

        • Jiffy

          I have several 5 gallon buckets. Let’s do this!

          • Genius

            I have buckets too… but their full of mash, hmmm what to do 😛

            • Jacknife

              Quit messin around and get to it. I’m thirsty

          • HotIce

            Gigantic Jiffy Pop heated by laser in the movie “Real Genius” starring Val Kilmer.
            Lots and lots of popcorn.

          • HotIce

            Trying to leave a comment. Here we go again:
            Gigantic Jiffy Pop heated by laser in the movie “Real Genius” starring Val Kilmer.
            Lots and lots of popcorn.

        • grandee

          popcorn with butter and melted redhots.


          • buttcrackofdoom

            and don’t forget the “kernal seasons”! kettle corn, nacho cheese, white cheddar, garlic and parmesan…..and a bunch more flavors.

          • laura ann

            Grandee: Gelato topped with coconut nectar for desert, w/ home cooked baby back ribs, collards and tall mug iced w/ lemon tea.

            • grandee

              another treat–big bowl of ice cream with salted popcorn sprinkled over the top of the ice cream.

              had that every Sunday night as a child. still do the popcorn but have to watch the ice cream intake–don’t want to waddle thru the EOTWAWKI

              would stir the ice cream till it was a soft serve consistency, throw the salted popcorn on top.


              • buttcrackofdoom

                i just brought back a bunch of blackberries from my trip to the oregon dunes. you aint lived until you pick blackberries, and put ’em on top of some thrifty vanilla icecream.,,,,mmmmm…better than sex……..but I don’t DO it right.

      • Nailbanger

        Make some with cheddar powder thanks

        • rellik

          Is that powered cheese stuff any good?
          I’ve resisted buying it until I get a
          opinion from a real user.

          • Nailbanger

            Its grinds bud,,, if you like popcorn you will love that, theres lots of different ones, so far all been pretty good.

            • Gandhi

              Marauders love cheese powder!

      • john hankinson

        better have that popper in a Faraday cage.

    3. Anon

      Sometimes people just baffle me. Why would someone ever buy those overpriced KI pills? If you are worried about exposure to radioactive iodine (meaning within fallout range), just make sure you have iodized salt on hand. Same effect without the exorbitant cost. And, if you never need it for a nuclear event, you can use it in your cooking! It has an indefinite shelf life too.

      And you don’t really need any of these overly expensive prepping materials. All you need are common materials and common sense. You are better off buying a book about using natural, local materials to do day-to-day activities (like wash clothes) instead of these exotics.

      • Archivist

        The iodine eventually goes away. The salt itself lasts forever, but not the iodine in it.

        Anyway, I don’t believe you can eat enough iodized salt to replace iodine tablets.

        • flower child


      • The Deplorable Braveheart

        Anon, agreed. LET THE BUYER BEWARE. When it comes to survival gear, I’m very, very selective. Like you said, common sense and common materials are the way to go. I don’t care for anything exotic myself.

      • shane

        Anon, To get the equivalent 130 mgs adult daily dose of potassium iodide (KI) that’s in the tablets, you’d need to choke on 5 cups of iodized salt per day.

    4. Anonymous

      Make sure its organic! GMO’s mostly in corn (unless its organic corn).

      • Gandhi

        My bathtubs are full of water, so I am ready for nuclear war

    5. Warchild Dammit!

      I really never had any interest in surviving nuke war if hits were near enuff that radiation ect. a issue,so,won’t be buying any of the above mentioned products.I feel at that point really not interested in the post nuke world/landscape.

      • Nailbanger

        Thats all fine and dandy but you will most likely survive unless your real close, so IMHO, better to have some supplies to read and mitigate hazards that can be dealt with, better that than being miserable for lack of a way to shield your thyroid, sure you could still die but more die from complications that could easily be avoided than that bright flash and 280000 degree wind

        • laeagle


          In a nuclear disaster, it will be catastrophic beyond our collective experience. In a long term survival situation, the iodine pills are but small consolation but every little bit helps and may make a difference and tip the balance in your favor. Death is the conclusion of last resort!

          Louisiana Eagle ?

      • buttcrackofdoom

        ummmm….it never occurred to you that you might be a few hundred miles from a nuke disaster….or thousands of miles….like we are now from fuuucYOUsheemuh? why do we always think of only the extremes, instead of thinking out ALL possibilities? there’s OFTEN an in the middle solution, no?

        • Genius

          Our plan C has a long mineshaft right next to it. Perfect fallout shelter once air filter is installed. Gotta love them old timers for building your bunker for you! 🙂

          • buttcrackofdoom

            you mean a tunnel,…..i HOPE!

          • CrackSummSkulls

            You know radiation travels downward, so if you go into a mine shaft, it will fill up with radiation from an open shaft. Radiation fallout is like snow. snow on your roof, on the ground. Find the center of the structure if it is a 5 story building go to the 3rd floor, middle area and hunker down. Put as many walls between you and the outside as possible. Stay upwind from a blast zone. You have a wind age direction and wind speed meter. Right? You got that in your sniper kit right with all your ballistics charts. right?

            Go to this site and look up your area on the map and find where the closest Nuke Plant is and the radiation it is emitting right now today as it updates every minute. Go to RadiationNetwork dot com Keep this handy link on your cell phone for mobility info, and the readings if the radiation levels are rising. Stay up wind. And move away from downwind of a nuke plant. Go 50+ Miles away at least. Keep a bottle of potassium iodide in every bug out bag and one in your vehicle along with your gas mask.

      • Heartless

        For some reason reading all this, listening to the news, thinking…. reminds me of Roy Batty’s (Rutger Hauer) soliloquy in ‘Bladerunner’: “I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die.” Just seems appropriate.

    6. Anonymous

      According to experts, surviving nuclear was is a fairy tale… people DON’T survive nuclear war… read, “On the Beach”– the radiation travels on the wind and will eventually reach everyone. Consequence? You start vomiting, having diarrhea and then die…

      • rellik


        “On the beach” is fiction, not fact.
        People will survive nuclear war, I give
        you Japan as an example.

        Like many other posters here today,
        I’m digging out some popcorn.

        • Nailbanger

          Im wondering if i can make sweetcorn do like popcorn if i dry it?

          • rellik

            I’ve been told no.
            Popcorn corn is a specialty
            crop. But I could have been

          • Archivist

            Many grains can pop. I’ve seen Chef Brad on BYU-TV pop some amaranth.

          • Quantum Bubbler

            I bought some Orville Reddenbacker and planted it. Popcorn!

          • Plan twice, prep once

            A story I heard in college. A couple stoners were gonna make popcorn. One kid said he’d been collecting pot seed for a year. They sprinkled some into the hot oil and it started popping, when the popping stopped they looked and just saw cracked shells, but the oil had a green tinge. They dropped in a bunch more, the seeds all cracked and popped. The oil was filled with pot resins, they added popcorn, popped it, added butter and got stoned out their heads eating popcorn and feeding their munchies at the same time.

          • laeagle


            We use to pop dried field corn in the hot ashes of a camp fire! We would take a handful of dried corn right off the cob and clear a little spot next to the fire, moving burning coal out of the way and to the side. We then threw the corn into the hot ashes and stirred the corn like with chopsticks. Soon the corn will start popping and you can pick them up and pop them into your mouth as you blow off any ashes. It is not for the ‘instant’ crowd but we enjoyed it and considered it a fun food.

            Louisiana Eagle ?

        • Anonymous

          Relik– you have a good point. However, things have changed. The nuclear bombs they have nowadays are THOUSANDS OF TIMES more deadly than the ones used on Japan.

          Check out Paul Craig Roberts website on this subject (he was consultant for the defense department during Reagan’s term). (He quotes experts and gives references, of course).

          We can survive an EMP explosion over our country– well, about 9/10 of us will be dead but SOME will survive) but nuclear war? FORGET IT, BABES… ITS ALL OVER.

          • Survivor727

            It really depends on your definition of “nuclear war.” A tactical exchange is survivable while most strategic exchanges would not be. A general, global, thermonuclear war would probably destroy most of the life on this planet, not only because of blast, heat and fallout, but because of the ensuing nuclear winter, nuclear powerplant meltdowns,nuclear waste storage pools around the world boiling off and contaminating surrounding areas, chemical plant explosions and any number of toxic cataclysms that would be unleashed without man around to control them. I get a kick out of all of the people looking for “prepper bugout land” in Montana. Don’t get me wrong, I love Montana, but you can bet your bottom dollar that all of central Montana is targeted by China and Russia because of the Minuteman Fields there. In a first strike, Montana would be a giant area of glow in the dark glass.

          • The Deplorable Braveheart

            Anonymous I thought PCR was US Assistant Secretary of the Treasury under Reagan.

            • Kevin2

              The Deplorable Braveheart

              Your correct. PCR has a PHD in Economics and was an editor of The Wall Street Journal

      • Far Away

        If the threat from North Korea is as high as believed, why is our elected officials on a recess during all this?

        • Nailbanger

          Because they are a bunch of ignorant assholes who are mostly responsible for the lack of leadership and preparedness that should have been exhibited,,,,

      • Common Sense Prepper

        I met a lot of people during the four years I was in Japan who were alive during WWII and were still alive in 2000. If “On the Beach” and similar novels had legitimate scientific basis, the radiation from Hiroshima and Nagasaki would have killed them.

        It makes sense to prepare in a common sense sort of way for emergencies, but not to pay $600 for a gas mask. If you have ordinary food and water in the house (like a bunch of those gallon or 2 gallon jugs of water you pick up at the grocery store for a buck or two, and extra canned food that you eat normally anyway), that should do you. I do have some iodine tablets, which I got a couple of years back from about $12, and some duct tape and plastic sheets from the dollar store. The normal stuff people have around their homes (well, maybe not the iodine tablets, but everything else). The plastic sheeting you use for painting and dollar store duct tape works fine, you don’t need to let specialty emergency supply companies scare you into spending thousands of dollars on supplies just because they come in a bright orange bag with “emergency” printed on it. In fact, if you might have to run somewhere, you are much better off having your emergency stuff in an ordinary school backpack – who would you attack first if you were desperate for gear, the guy with a cammo backpack covered in molle straps, or the gal with the “hello Kitty” backpack – which would you think was a more useful target?

        • buttcrackofdoom

          i see homeless people wearing military backpacks OFTEN. and people wearing camo are everywhere too….look around.

      • Scooter

        Yeap….OR another bad day at Taco Bell

      • jimbob

        North Korea has 60 nukes at best and most are not on ICBMs or even thermonuclear. The actual amount of land area in the US that can be affected is relatively small so odds are that you would survive the initial blast and radiation. It takes a dose of 5 Sv or 500R in a short period of time to ensure death and you will not see that unless you are close to ground zero. Don’t believe me? Research the residents of Muslymovo, Russia that have lived with fairly high radiation for decades. The most likely cause of death would be starvation due to the collapse of the food supply.

      • X7734-0845

        Japan was “Kiloton”.

        Modern day is “Megaton” (or more).

        The difference is a much larger blast area, much more material uplifted in the blast, therefore more radiation in the “winds”, as well as the oceans.

        It is survivable, but you need to be away from the jet streams, major ocean currents, or just be buried very deep for substantial amount of time..

        • Kevin2

          A kiloton is 1000 ton equivalent of TNT
          A megaton is 1 million tons equivalent of TNT

          The order of magnitude is 1000 times. NK has yet to test a fusion (H) bomb. A fission bomb (A) is limited to 50KT. Fission bomb deployable is in the 20KT range due to size. Most deployed nuclear weapons in Us and Russian inventory are in the 100KT range as there are diminishing returns on size. For maximum effect they are air burst at 1000-2000 ft which enlarges its destruction radius but limits the radioactive fall out. Gamma rays at the instant of the explosion penetrate deep but immediately dissipate. The majority of the fall out has a few week half life. US troops were walking over the effected areas in Japan two months after the bombing.

    7. Anonymous

      “According to experts, surviving nuclear was is a fairy tale… people DON’T survive nuclear war”

      That’s why Japan has no residents?

    8. Doc Brown

      You get sick & DIE!!!

    9. Nailbanger

      101 reasons why ive been keeping a pantry since 2009,
      Pile this shit on top of mother nature disasters, financial collapse, job loss, illness, and this is just one more in a long line of shit happens scenarios, because, well, ya know, shit happens, so may want to eat or run the generator for a few hours or drive around the neighborhood to see whats shakin, definitely dont want to be standing in the food or water lines, and thats exactly whats going to happen without a little forethought.

      • buttcrackofdoom

        good one, kula.

        • Nailbanger

          You dont by any chance have gas mask hoods for the newer type of gas masks do you?
          Had a hell of a time finding any and only got two,,, wanted to get 6

          • buttcrackofdoom

            will look when i get time…by sunday probly.

      • bobane

        What opened my eyes was a very “peculiar” SP500 chart configuation in early 2009. It was pointing to a disaster for late last year.
        So nothing happened in 2016 but I am happy that I left US in late 2009. I live in almost total seclusion (in the hills) in Philippines.

        • X7734-0845

          Hell, you’ve got a front-row-seat.
          Good Luck

    10. Anonymous

      Is America safe if the U.S. makes a preemptive nuclear strike? Dr. Paul Craig Robert’s says no-way and explains, “Even if every American city is spared retaliation, all the Americans would die too due to the radiation and due to the nuclear winter. . . . all of the temperate climates would have freezing temperatures every day of the year for three years. So, clearly there wouldn’t be any food grown. This is over and above whatever the radiation does to people

      • Gandhi

        I picked up some SPF 30,000 sun block cream made from solid lead so I plan to hang out at the beach.

      • buttcrackofdoom

        my food will last that long, but will I? probly not….but i DO have my military gear for surviving the arctic cold, so who knows…..yer gonna NEED this stuff SOMEday.

        tuff box. gorilla box.
        550 cord.
        surefire. sleep systems,
        cold weather gear like
        Ponchos, bear coats,
        wool socks,
        gen. III arctic type clothing.
        plate carriers.
        anything kevlar/bulletproof. iba.iotv. mtv. ach.
        combat shirts.
        gas mask. filters.
        bladders. camelpack.
        groin protectors.
        throat protectors..
        gun accessories.
        first aid kits.
        desert boots.
        winter combat boots..
        woobie blanket.
        level VII coats(urban grey)and pants
        survival knives.
        e-tool. got anything to add?

        • The Deplorable Braveheart

          BCOD, you been looking in my shed? LOL.

        • Sparky

          Water options

        • Gandhi

          o my, you don’t need all that stuff. A good gun and a good credit card will get you through.

    11. Anonymous

      BELOW IS FROM “US has plans for preemptive nuclear attack” by Paul Craig Roberts– at before its news website…

      “These weapons are so lethal that if just one percent of the inventory of the U.S. and Russia were used, the death toll would be at least 2 billion people. Also, if less than half of the inventory of either the U.S. or Russia were used, life would cease to exist on planet earth.” Dr. Roberts goes on to say, “I have been warning

      • Son of Liberty

        P. C. Roberts misses it by a mile. Multitudes will live through a nuclear war, only to die due to a lack of preparedness. No gas masks, Iodine tablets, bunker space, etc, etc, etc. We’ve been sold a bill of goods by those who are leftist liberal weenies. Many will survive, only to die because they have bought into the nonsense that no one will survive. Life will change, no doubt, but it IS survivable.


        Son of Liberty

        • Nailbanger

          Yep, Japanese guy i know said, his mom was a child and survived Nagasaki, they then moved to Fukushima area,,, then they survived that, came to stay with him in Hawaii because they couldnt go back to their house, then she got hit by a drunk driver when she was crossing the street going to the supermarket, 94 years old

            • Traitor Hator

              Imagine dragons: Radioactive.

              • Anonymous

                Heroes slay dragons.

          • Anonymous

            Nail banger, listen to the talk with Paul Craig Roberts on the Greg Hunter show (few years ago, its called, “Everything is about ready to collapse”). He says that just one bomb from Russia’s SS-18 would take out everything along the east coast from Boston to Atlanta, Georgia and one fighter jet has several of these bombs on it. The nuclear bombs nowadays are 17,000 times more deadly than the bomb dropped on Hiroshima!! 17,000 TIMES MORE DEADLY THAN WHAT WAS DROPPED OVER HIROSHIMA!!!

      • mike

        Sounds like an Al Gore. We only have 10yrs left I do believe is what he said 20yrs ago. All this is like a fart in the wind it stinks a little while till something else blows in.

        • Anonymous

          Funny and well said, mike, but unfortunately, you are spreading MISINFORMATION– i.e., you are ignorant.

    12. Ron Ahrens

      But, but I thought the vice peddling pussy grabber was going to save New Babylon America, and there would be no need to prep anymore????

    13. TEST

      Preparedness is a good thing for many reasons (safety for your family, personal respect, ability to help who can’t fend for themselves – e.g. retarded, babies, elderly – in a crisis, etc.)

      But neglecting to prepare for not a maybe, but a certainty – viz., your death, is a major issue, it seems to me. After all, one is going to be dead a whoooooole lot longer than one is alive, even if you are Roy Kurzweil.

      As Mark Twain once said, it’s not the things I don’t understand in the Bible that bother me, it’s the things I *do* understand.

      If you’ve never cracked open your New Testament, might be a good time to do so, as you go about your other duties.

    14. Anonymous

      In an old interview with Paul Craig Roberts (on Greg Hunter talk show) he says that Russian military technology is vastly superior to ours and that if just one bomb from a SS-18 could take out everything on the eaSt coast from Boston to Atlanta. Its over 17,000 times more powerful than what we dropped over Hiroshima.

      • Plan twice, prep once

        Soviets built huge rockets with giant blockbuster hydrogen bombs with a fifty mile killing radius to compensate for inaccurate targeting. You could miss by twenty miles and still destroy your primary target.

        Then they invented MIRV’s, multiple independently targeted reentry vehicles. That old giant rocket could now deliver a dozen small hydrogen bombs that could each more accurately hit a city each from Boston to Atlanta. It’s not the horror of one bomb destroying all that territory. If you were between targeted cities in reasonable cover and could stay sheltered for a week or two you could potentially survive.

        • Kevin2

          Actually the US had the jump on the MIRV

          “The first true MIRV design was the Minuteman III, introduced in 1970, which held three smaller W62 warheads of about 170 kilotons in place of the single 1.2 megaton W56 used in the earlier versions of this missile. “

          • Anonymous

            Kevin, the pentagon conducted about 17 war game scenarios of nuclear war between the US and Russia and Russia WON EVERY TIME!!!

    15. citizen

      anon one of my closet friends worked as an engineer at the NV test site for many years. a small war with Korea will not cause nuclear winter. It would take many hundreds of nukes to do this.
      the few that would be used in this limited strike would just kill millions.

      That said nuclear weapons are the stupidest things man ever invented. If we would have spent all those trillions of dollars on mankind, no one would want for food or clean water anywhere on this ball of rock.

      as prepared as I can be…. hope I don’t need it.

      • buttcrackofdoom

        so, are YOU steppin’ out of the “closet” now too?

        • Genius

          I’m going in the closet after reading this 😮

      • Anonymous

        citizen, I’m just going by what Paul Craig Roberts said and he provided documents by scientists to confirm what he said. I will try to find and post.

    16. aljamo

      Fear porn for the gullible is what I’m seeing. Anyone who believes NK will attack Guam has a screw loose somewhere. That will never happen, nor will the US be attacked. Pure BS!

      • Gandhi

        If the ants ? ever figure out they don’t need the grasshoppers, it’s over for the banks, I mean over for grass hoppers?

      • Young Otis

        Seriously. Just bluster and saber rattling.

      • Nailbanger

        Ya, most likely,
        But then again, what if they do?

      • Anonymous

        aljimo, the Jews said the same thing about the Nazis– until they went into the showers and the poison gas came out…

    17. TEST

      BTW, if anyone wants a good source for potassium iodide, geiger counters, etc., www, is, IMHO, a great group. Hopefully, this will all blow over, but it never hurts to be prepared, particularly when things like potassium iodide are so cheap (sorry, I’m not a Learjet leftists, so can’t afford my own bunker!)

      But I am still VERY happy to have my property in Nova Scotia, outside of St. Peters. Just wish I had the dough develop it as a vacation/retreat/BOL site though. For those with only American citizenship, there is NO problem buying Canadian property. Even better, as opposed to opening a bank account, there is no nanny state tracking of you as there would be with opening an bank acct over $10,000. Finally, the loonie (Canadian dollar) is around 79 cents last I looked, thanks to Boy Wonder Trudeau

    18. Frank Thoughts

      You would be better investing in a Level 5 high-access pass to the Continuity of Government Bunkers. These passes are super high tech so you will need to get the counterfeiter to put in a chip, DNA resonance detector, iris scan, bio data, and build a database profile with credibility. But if you can get that together, then you will ride this out in sweet style and enjoy the benefits of female government interns. “Oh, Cathy, could you get me a cup of that fiiiiiiiiine Nescafe coffee you make. No, over there on the bottom shelf: yup, lower, lower to the left. That’s reaaaal good: still working on getting a new, longer skirt, Cathy?”

      “Yes! They say it could take months! No problem Mr Whiteman! Oh, that tickles!!”

      “Come here you little minx! I will tell you how to get some good chow if you do something for me. Let’s play find the MRE Cheese Whizz on the hot dog.”

      • Nailbanger

        Thats just wrong?

    19. Kevin2

      NK is the 7th grader, 5ft tall, 95 lbs who is taunting a HS lineman, 6’4″ 250 bs. Kim is getting the adoration of his people like the Jr high kid would. Ignore him. President Trump should make a one word reply to his threats, “Don’t”. No I’ll do this or that, just “Don’t”.

      • PO'd Patriot

        But Kev, David was also a lot smaller that goliath. Just sayin…..

        • Archivist

          But David had accurate aim.

        • Kevin2

          Thats a fable, this is reality.

          • Archivist

            Not a fable.

          • ShannobAnonymous

            Are you freaking serious? For some crazy reason I’ve always looked to your comments for a respectable opinion. Today you lost my respect! You realize your fable is the majorities reality. It was so demeaning.

            • Kevin2

              Nuclear war is a reality. Economic collapse is a reality. Today is reality. Threatening Venezuela with what your be a completely unconstitutional use of military force is reality.

              “You realize your fable is the majorities reality.”

              So I’m supposed to believe as the majority believe? I believe that the majority doesn’t think regarding virtually anything and are for all effects sheep which is the main reason we’re in the place we’re in. I don’t buy into a serpent, apple, tree, the earth is 10,000 years old or created in seven days or anything Uncle Sam says. I’m a skeptic. I do believe, “Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely” regardless if its draped in religion, government, business or labor organization.

              • Kevin2

                would not your

                • ShannobAnonymous

                  Haven’t you read Mr. Kevin? You seem like a very intelligent man. Organized religion and the Bible are two different things. I don’t believe a serpent tricked eve into eating an apple either. Why would she cover herself in fig leaves if an apple was eaten? I believe Satan tricked her into having sex with him and open the realm of good and evil to her. I believe the evil of today is that off spring. I believe the world is millions of years old at a minimum. I believe heaven is another diminsion not a place with gold streets. My four year old I believe isn’t walking down streets of gold but fishing at the right hand of my savior. See I’m not the majority yet I realize something far greater had to create the beautiful place we inhabit. If you would care to take the time and walk through nature I can’t see how you can’t agree in part with what I’m saying. I’m not a church goer never been a fitter in but I see the beauty all around me and I like you try to find the truth not so easily deceived.

                  • Kevin2

                    After reading and observing in my almost 60 years of life I have figured out that I haven’t figured it out so I’m an agnostic. God is on everyones side, just ask them. Man has used religion to motivate very unholy acts. Christianity is dominate because the empires that had it in a very prostituted form, mainly Spain, converted millions at gun/sword point. The Islamics are still doing it. Assuming there is a heaven; Gandhi isn’t there because he was of the wrong religion and he therefore occupies hell next to Hitler? I have a disconnect.

                    I have a belt buckle from WWII. It says:

                    Gott Mitt Uns


                    God Is With US.

                    That sums it up.

      • Nailbanger

        Point 1.
        USA has more manpower and military hardware than all other countries combined.
        Point 2.
        USA has more missles than all the others combined.
        This crap has been allowed to go on long enough, no more appeasing these stupid shits, destroy them and then point the tens of thousands of remaining missles at the others and tell em to fuck off

      • Anticommie

        If we had a man for a president like a hundred years ago. Kim Punk Kum would find out what a 1000 nukes feels like.

        • Kevin2

          Such a foreign policy of willy nilly using nuclear weapons would see to it that we wouldn’t be alive.

    20. PO'd Patriot

      make sure you got plenty of first aid kit and I don’t mean a boo-boo kit you would keep in a vehicle. Get two to three of the CAT7 Gen3 tourniquets manufactured by North American Rescue LLC as there are quite a few Chinese knock-offs that are being sold as the Cat7. I keep one in a blow out kit with and Israeli bandage on my PC as well and on my belt that I can reach with one hand it I need it. Get some of the abdominal bandages as well as those who are treated with celox. You might be a long way from any kind of medical help so you need to be prepared to not only those close to you but also yourself.

      • buttcrackofdoom

        here’s a list to choose from…..make damn sure you got SEVERAL kinds of anti-biotics from the vet supply store… can own EVERYTHING a person has in a shtf scenario, if you WANT it. oh, and read “where there is no doctor”!…NOW!

        Bag, main Bag, surplus

        Ace bandages (7) Large bandages (21)
        Burn dressings, (4) Butterfly sutures (40)
        Triangular bandage Band-aids, Asst. sizes, 300
        Wooden cotton swabs, 100 Adhesive tape, 1″ and 2″ (10 rolls)
        Alcohol wipes, 100 2×2 gauze pads, 200
        4×4 gauze pads, 100 Cotton balls

        BP cuff Stethoscope
        Otiscope Teaspoon
        Thermometers, 3 Flashlight, AA x 2
        Chemical ice pack Measuring cup
        Snake bite kit Rubber gloves (24 pr)
        Soap, 3 bars prescription glasses, 2 pr
        Hypodermics (3) 100 proof Grain alcohol (3 qts)
        Needles Lidocaine
        Hemostats (7) Needle holders (2)
        Scissors (3) Scalpels (3)
        Lancets Wire cutters
        Pliers Tooth extraction pliers
        Dental mirror Dental pick
        Hacksaw blade Suture materials, Asst. (20 sets)
        Surgical tubing, 20 feet IV sets
        Catheters Plaster of Paris
        Space Blankets (3) Suction device
        Urine Test Kits (2) Pregnancy test kits (3)
        Magnifier/30X microscope AA Batteries (4)
        Magnet eye patches (3)
        Cotton bats, 7 boxes Safety pins, pkg 100
        Tweezers (5) Toenail clippers
        emergency first aid book
        nurse’s drug book, and several types of antibiotics
        Zinc oxide Alcohol, 2 qt
        Iodine, 7 oz Betadine, 4 qt
        Liniment, 1 qt 1% hydrocortisone, 3 tubes
        Hydrogen peroxide, 2 qt Tylenol, 250
        Aspirin, 700 Nyquil, 1 bottle
        Baking soda, 7 box Salt, 1 box
        Calamine lotion, 1 bottle Activated charcoal, 24 oz
        Decongestant, 3 bottles Imodium AD, 12 pkg
        Oil of cloves, 7 bottles Benadryl, 3 bottles
        Benadryl cream, 1 tube Alka-seltzer, 300 pkgs
        Pepcid AC, 100 Vaseline, 1 sm jar
        Oral-jel, 3 tubes Dental filling material, 2 tubes
        Lice Rx (Permethrin) Rehydrating solution
        Ammonia inhalant, 7 Epidrine pens, 3
        Codeine or Demerol, 100 tabs Anti-biotic ointment, 21 tubes
        Anti-biotic, oral, 300 tabs Anti-fungal cream, 3 tubes
        Moisturizing cream, 3 tube
        Bag, personal size (2)
        Ace Bandage
        Band-Aids, 12
        Anti-biotic ointment, 1
        Large Bandage, 1
        Butterfly Bandage, 3
        2X2 gauze, 7
        Aspirin, 12
        Whiskey, 1/2 pt

        • buttcrackofdoom

          one more thing. make SURE you got a military-grade tourniquet, and can put it on with ONE hand.

          • Nailbanger

            If i get shot in my head and am alive, do i put a tourniquet around my neck?

            • PO'd Patriot

              LMAO! But no it can’t be placed ABOVE the heart.

        • Bruce Roberts

          Don’t forget the gallon jars of niggger toes (Brazil nuts) for snacking on.

        • The Deplorable Braveheart

          BCOD, that sounds like my medical supplies also. Damn good list.

          • Genius

            If you can’t get a good gas mask then get a respirator rated for chemicals. About 35 bux at ace and work very well.

          • Sucka punch

            Ahhhhh bravetart yes damn good, over and out you big fatty

            • The Deplorable Braveheart

              Sucka punch, go suck an egg.

        • Gandhi

          How is a homeless refugee gonna fit all that crap in his shopping ? cart?

    21. Marie in Upstate

      During his campaign of empty promises, when Trump had promised “We have no business invading other countries” and also said “No war” I didn’t know he was lying and would do the opposite of what he was saying, and as far as war, was actually looking forward to it, as it now seems.

      He is on the golf course again today, all day — my son showed me that someone shared it on snapchat. Not only is he golfing A WHOLE LOT more than Obama, which he criticized him endlessly for, he is doing it at a time when you think he would be meeting with people on how to deal with North Korea. Nero fiddled while Rome burned.

      • Wake-up-people

        Easy does it Mary. NO ONE could play more golf than that stinking, no good Muslim ape Barry Hussein.

    22. George

      Nuclear combat toe to toe with the rooskies

      • buttcrackofdoom

        and the chinks….at the SAME TIME! you KNOW they been just biding their time…..hell, the WORLD hates U.S…..throw in the muzzies, and hooooboy….it’s gonna be a doozie, as hazel would say.

    23. Sgt. Dale

      You know I’m not worried at all. I’ve had my preps for years and have added to them every year for 30 years now.

      All I’m going to do if something starts Is Pray!!!!


      • ShannobAnonymous


      • Genius

        Yep Sgt. I’m not worried at all either, been at it for decades and pretty much have most things covered. I have a new load for the 30.06! Check this out, 58gr. H-414 , 150gr. sierra matchking, 3005 fps. and very accurate! Blows right through a 1/8 steel plate at 500 yds. The H-414 is the fastest rated powder for both the 30.06 (with 150gr.) and the .243 (use it in both) in the lee book. Damn I wish I hadn’t bought all that 4000MR now…

        • Robert

          Likewise, you can use IMR 4064 @ 53 grain charge and get about a dozen more reloads per pound at the same velocity of 3k fps.

    24. flower child

      E.T. s Just said that all nukes will not fire.
      They all have been rendered useless.

    25. aljamo

      Thataboy Trump get the fake news excited about military action, like sweet talk to their ears. More obscenely stupid propaganda because everything else important to life has went to hell in a handbasket.

    26. Tennessean

      First: We grow popcorn. Dried corn of other types will not pop, it will parch.
      Second: Sagan’s “Nuclear Winter” article was totally debunked later. They used the worst case value for EVERY assumed variable.
      Third: Not a single post mentioned radiation meters. This is an absolutely essential item. We’ve three digital ones, two RadAlerts, and many KFMs to share with neighbors. We keep a RadAlert and a 0-50 milliR/hr in each vehicle along with a compass (for determining wind direction and the direction to ground Zero).
      Fourth: ain’t enough I in iodized salt to make any difference.
      Fifth: go to and download Cresson Kearny’s “Nuclear War Survival Skills” (KFM instructions) and you will realize that PCR does not know diddly squat about nukes. We’ve copies of Glasstone’s “The Effects of Nuclear Weapons” published by the US Government, 1962 edition. Still in print. Buy one and you will know more than 99.9999% of folks.
      Sixth: Yes, “On the Beach” was total BS. Only hardened targets (think sub pens and underground military bunkers) will get ground bursts. Optimal height air bursts will be used against every other target. They cause much more damage and generate minimal fallout. How many folks in Japan died from fallout? Zero.

    27. shane

      Any nuke, regardless it’s source, can be made 90% less lethal quick as the affected populations learned beforehand what to do and not do from the first instant of the initial flash. Proof of it and the how to’s from ‘Physicians for Civil Defense’, google GoodNewsNuke

      • shane

        Regarding surviving nukes, for most, whether they think they can or think they can’t, they’re right! That’s cause those who think they can’t, that it’s futile to even bother to see if there’s anything they could learn and do, they won’t and then they can’t.

    28. Mike in VA

      I posted here a few days ago for everyone to take the North Korea thing serious.

      Then I have one person ask why I cannot give details.

      Would the press give up the leekers or there sources? If not then why not?

      It is because then you have no sources. Sources may possibly be in jail. ect. ect.


      To those who have known me on here I will always try to post things that are useful, informative, and helpful.

      I will always post a warning if I know it is credible and then pray to God that nothing comes to pass.

      Hope you all are having a great day.

      • Nailbanger

        I take most stuff seriously but dont get carried away with my action, theres prepping and theres going overboard, but really, if people paid attention then made decisions that would at least give them an upper hand there wouldnt be a need for FEMA or crap like that,,,
        Most people dont pay attention then just dismiss things without even giving it so much as a thought. Yall know where i stand, im ready for most stuff but not going overboard

      • Nailbanger

        The US government didnt take the Japs seriously, then look what happened

        • Warchild Dammit!

          Nail,what happened with Japan is fdr knew we would be attacked but did nothing to prevent/stop it.The US up until then didn’t want to be in WW2 but the powers that be did,fdr sold us the fuck out!

          • Nailbanger

            He was a democrat,,, any surprise there?

    29. Faux Liberte'

      You can’t buy skills and you can’t buy knowledge. All that remains once the preps run out.

    30. Kevin2

      The panic shouldn’t be in a nuclear weapon detonating near you but the black swan event that that it is (or its perceived threat) that instigates a global sell off of equities. This is highly likely and it won’t be pretty.

    31. Traitor Hator

      Bridges will be road blocks? Is anyone smart enough to figure out how many cubic feet of air bag tied to your bumper , you would need to float? Even if you could keep the engine up a little or a lot. Rediculous? un doable?

      • Kevin2

        Air occupies 13.8 ft3 lb. Water 62 lbs ft3. 4000 lb car = 65 cubic ft water. Now a 55 gallon drum should weigh maybe 10 lbs empty. It will displace 390 lbs of water. figure 12 of them under a raft of wood should work. Huckleberry Finn.

        • Traitor Hator

          Ive seem a training film of guys driving a jeep on a tarp folding the tarp up the sides of the jeep just right , and carry it to the water. How big would an air bag be the equivalent to 12 drums? Could you put it under the truck and inflate it? Could you imagine being able to cross the Mississippi anywhere.

          • Kevin2

            One gallon is 231 cubic inches so its:

            231 x 55 x 12
            ————– = 88 cubic ft

            • Traitor Hator

              So 20 feet long ,5 feet wide ,1 foot thick. Or 10 feet long ,5 wide , 2 thick ? How to make a air bag? The first to cross the Mississippi? Ultimate off road . One of you rich guys can figure it out? And do it.? 5 feet would stay inside wheels ?.Deep mudder tread could provide propulsion? Fronts would provide some direction? Strong tarp with glued and sown seams . High volume air compressor. How many PSI nesesary. Hooks to front and rear bumper. Alternative? How many things were ounce believed impossible?

              • Kevin2

                Thats the volume, personally I don’t see it working.

                1. The material must be very strong.
                2. Anyone taking a shot at it creates a leak due to the container being non rigid, you sink.

                Find a bridge


                Make a raft with plastic BBLs.

                • Traitor Hator

                  15 by 4 ,1 1/2 to 2 feet thick. You drive in the water first to cool down exhaust. Then backout and roll bag under car . Put sheet of 1/4 inch plywood on top of bag were exhaust would hit . Inflate. Railroad bridge? Private barge? Do they make garages for house boats?

    32. Traitor Hator

      Is it possible to rig a window shocker that plugs in the wall? Or will the fuse just blow? A roll of chicken wire ready to nail over your bottom floor Windows . People put all different locks on. But they will just break the glass and climb in.

      • Kevin2

        Its called a bobby trap and its highly illegal. Even 110V can kill. Now an electric fence for animal control while not legal for said application (most likely) at least has a far lower probability of death.

        • Traitor Hator

          Yes, One of those solar powered animal electric fences modified to do Windows? Or a plug in the wall voltage regulator? Is electric cost near zero?

    33. aljamo

      Read at today: Fire and Fury, US is a Totalitarian Fascist Police State. A very good and undeniably unvarnished truth about Americas present predicament.

      • Kevin2


        Never knew that site existed.

        Thank You.

    34. Marie in Upstate

      I have friends in Los Angeles and they said a lot of their rich friends there have already evacuated to their 2nd homes in the south of France.

    35. Traitor Hator

      Can hardly find 9 mm hp. But buckshot is less then 50 cent?

    36. grandee

      some thoughts from Venezuela at FOX news:

      Venezuela’s currency now worth less than ‘World of Warcraft’ gold

      ht tp://

      • grandee

        also from CNN

        Trump says he won’t rule out military option in Venezuela

        ht tp://

        • Kevin2


          “Trump says he won’t rule out military option in Venezuela”

          I voted for him because he said that he would focus on “America First” and disengage from these foreign military actions. Hillary conversely was championing both Globalism and engaging in military confrontations. Now it appears that the differences between the two are in perception regarding these issues not substance.

          “The more things change the more they stay the same”.

          • Nailbanger

            I didnt even bother to vote because in a democrat controlled state like Hawaii,, my vote and voice dont count.

            • rellik

              I vote here and write letters, but I know it is like talking to a snake. It has no concept as to how close it is to death, it just keeps sticking its tongue out at you.
              Typical Democrat in todays world.

              • Nailbanger

                Hawaii politics makes me sick now,,, if the climate wasnt so nice and our spot what it is i would already be gone, just really not into being frozen half the year

                • Kevin2

                  Come to SE Florida.

      • Nailbanger

        Thats actually pretty funny, yet the stupid idiot leftist who want the US to be socialist just dont get it,,,
        Socialism, what a load of crap

    37. Traitor Hator

      Remember in the middle of all this . The Tares must burn . Like it or not. God did soddom and Gomorrah in the same way. But this time , the wheat,, the smart virgins , will be spared? And enter the kingdom?

    38. Marie in Upstate

      Trump need to stop with his ‘words of war’ as far as the antagonizing. The NK crazy man is a psychopath and that is the worst way to handle them because they are very retaliatory. I wish he would stop with the tweets.

    39. Old Guy

      Well Kevin we all knew there wasn’t a viable political or ballot box fix. At best loose cannon Trump bought us some time. The thing is if we nuke north korea. Who else who has nukes are gonna let them fly. Its a pandoras box. Over the years ive had the same dream dozens of times. and there is a dark landscape. no noise no wind and everything is burnt. No soil or dirt just blackened rocks and stones. the remains of metal things where just melted lumps. I wake up sweating.

      • bobane

        Old Guy
        Trump didn’t buy us any extra time!
        THE DATE is known and I betcha he knows it as well.
        But what prompts me to respond is your dream… damn it looks and sounds so realistic.
        That’s how I see post-apocalytic US.
        Charcoal and ash sided by gigantic canyons of water everywhere…

      • buttcrackofdoom

        why does fukushima come to mind?

      • Kevin2

        Old Guy

        That “some time” should be quite long with USSC picks. As lose cannon as Trump may be he still is better with foreign policy than Hillary.

    40. Anonymous

      Fights break out over the last gas mask. Now that would be an interesting read.

    41. Nicus

      If you really want to know how likely war is, check with the bookmakers. Right now book on war seems to be about one chance in a hundred. When the odds get down to single digits I’ll worry… and I’ll place a bet.

    42. Warchild Dammit!

      Look,they drop a nuke they will wake a sleeping giant,and I am not talking about the USA.

      I am talking Godzilla,and boy,is he going to be pissed!

        • Warchild Dammit!

          This week Haruo Nakajima died,the actor who played in a bunch of Godzilla movies.The original out fit was mad of a quickrete type mix,stuck in it all day in hot filming lights ect.

          RIP Haruo!

        • The Deplorable Braveheart

          Genius, wouldn’t it be nice if we had Godzilla to use on the snowflakes? LOL.

    43. Grey Dog

      I’ve got 6 cans of Spam in the cupboard, a couple boxes of Hamburger helper, and a bottle of Perrier somewhere in the back of the fridge.

      Bring it.

    44. Gary

      It seems that very few people these days plan ahead. Having been a fire marshal and teaching safety, for disasters etc, it was only a small percentage of a community that ever planned and prepared. That results in panic buying at every drop in the bucket of bad news. When a person live preparedness, as a life long issue as I have, a person is not as frightened, as those that did not prepare at all and arm jerk their prep items.

      • Nailbanger

        One thing ive found is you really get a good idea of your true needs and what you really use when you have been doing this for a while, lots of stuff you thought you needed you dont, and lots of stuff you didnt really think about. For sure the most basic stuff is real important but even more i think will be knowing how to and having the means to produce more of what you need down the road. That to me is the most daunting part of it, some stuff is easy, well, easier anyway, but some stuff will be difficult, like soap, simple, basic, but does anyone really grasp the process to make soap and truly have the resources that will produce enough fat and the various other ingredients to make it? Even a simple thing like bacon, you might have a pig or be able to bag one, but to make bacon and hams or stuff like that, and to get them made before the whole damn thing spoils. If its freezing out, sure, no prob, but if like us the temps never go below the low 40s and thats for maybe 5 hours, normal temps in the 60s-80s, stuff goes bad quick.
        Lots to it that most people have never even thought about.

        • Old Guy

          Living off of stoared hoarded goods isn’t surviving . That is simply enduring. Being able to renew those good is necessary for long term survival.

        • grandee

          so true- it’s the process of producing your own survival.

          do you produce or consume?

          take solar-will you only be a consumer of batteries? or do you have the ability to use and retain solar heat w/o the batteries?

          the ancients knew how to use the sun. knew how to build/plant to capture it’s life giving rays–w/o batteries!

          something i’m learning at this late stage in the survival game.

          simple gardening tactic: tomatoes love the heat. build up a north/south berm of earth, plant the tomatoes up against it. they thrive on the warmth of the dirt. this has worked for me for the past two years. this year was the best harvest of two heirloom types.

          on a bigger scale, plant your fruit trees against a brick wall that captures the solar heat. prune tree to hug and spread out along the wall.

          We use wood heat in the garage in winter. build yourself an ash hopper. make the lye. make the soap.

          prepper consumerism is NOT the way to go.

          as you said, “… even more i think will be knowing how to and having the means to produce more of what you need down the road.”

    45. Tactical Beard

      Acts 16:31
      So they said, “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household.”

    46. Old Guy

      Im pretty skeptical about most fear porn stuff. its bad enough that the melting reactors in japan are poisioning the pacific and the west coast. I just seen footage of Trump way back in 1999 discussing what he would do about korea if he was president. Its pretty much the same as he is saying today. No matter who starts it or How it is presented as justifiable. Nuke way is a no win situation. everyone will lose. Only one fact bombs do win wars. If we are gonna bomb North korea. Lets use a Neutron bomb. It kills all organic life and leaves infrastructure intact. And don’t poison the air for decades. If I didn’t have any children or grandchildren I wouldn’t mind so much. But as it is Im very disappointed. Congress is in recess and trump is on vacation. Bet most of them are holed up at Mt Weather or under Cheyanne Mountan. We where warned. The georiga guidestones tell that they want to reduce the population of the planet.

    47. TEST

      Yet ANOTHER Republican *murdered* by the left this week:

      Remember: H8TE, violence and oppression are bad… unless the leftist brownshirts do it. Then it is “understandable,” “justifiable,” and even “good.”

      A Republican committeeman was executed by his rabid anti-Trump neighbor with two bullets to the head late Monday evening. Clayton Carter, 51, shot his neighbor G. Brooks Jennings twice in the head, murdering him on Jennings property in front of his wife. The murder took place in West Goshen, Chester County, Pennsylvania.

      Of course, a few week ago was the attempted murder of Republican Rep. Steve Scalise by leftist James Hodgkinson, which is turn follows such lowlights as the burning of Berkeley, Dr Alison Stanger, professor at Middlebury College, VT., being hospitalized by leftists after she supported free speech, or those good ol’ leftist “Rape Melania” signs (nope, still no word from the feminists on that one)

    48. Bigbluedrew

      This really boils down to what are we prepared to live with as a nation. A; We can ignore Kim’s rhetoric and about 3 years from now when he has developed an ICBM that can reach our shores, live with perpetual CREDIBLE threats and nuclear blackmail. By this time IRAN having watched our inaction and national cowardice will be ready to join the fray with there own blackmail and ceaseless demands,or option B: Grow a pair of balls, bite the bullet and destroy their capability while there is still time to do so in a manner that will not leave MILLIONS of our countrymen dead. This whole thing reminds me of the cowardice of many in power here during the 1930’s and there unwillingness to grow a spine and deal with Hitler. We waited until we were directly attacked to enter that war and over 100 million people died in it. We need to man up and accept what our founding fathers knew, freedom ain’t free, yeah I know America certainly isn’t what it was but it ain’t North Korea either. Fighting them will be bloody and costly but let’s face it head on NOW LIKE MEN instead of faggy pajama boys. The price of inaction will just be that much higher later.

      • Genius

        You watch too much TV. When did Hitler attack us? We don’t have a missile defense system? Iran will attack us? Your pretty out there bud……

        • Bigbluedrew

          Genius I watch the series Shooter and Cardinals baseball and that’s about it. On December 8th one day after Pearl Harbor Germany declared war on the United States. As for Iran attacking us I recall a little event in the 1970’s regarding our embassy I delieve, but that wasn’t an attack was it. Our missle defense system is still in development and it’s ability to shoot down an ICBM is sporadic at best, with numerous test failures. If your neighbor repeatedly says he plans to kill you and you see him in his back yard practicing daily with a rifle what would your response be, never mind I already know.

          • Warchild Dammit!

            Big,perhaps if we (the US) didn’t kill the former leader of Iran and then supported a dictator like the shah we wouldn’t at least then had problems with them.We keep going into the mid-east,just stay the fuck out of that region and their business!

            • Bigbluedrew

              All this nonsense in the Middle East is about oil and perpetuating the petrodollar. It IS in our national interest. Let the petrodollar crash and watch what happens to America. Insane system I agree but the ship has long sailed,can’t extracate ourselves at this point so the PTB have no choice but fight to maintain the status quo or lose everything.

    49. Plan twice, prep once

      I love this article. It may be fear porn but…..

      The idea that thousands more Americans are prepping, I see as good news.

      Temporary shortages, not so much.

      One more prepped neighbor is one less marauder to deal with.

      • Genius

        And a few less rounds I will have to waste. Buying gas masks and mre’s hardly qualifies as prepping though. Just gives the shitferbrains some hopium lol….

      • Nailbanger

        And one more person who will wrap their mind around all the issues that eventually come into focus when you start looking at preparedness.

      • PO'd Patriot

        PTPO, it’ll all be on their yard sale tables in a few months. Keep an eye out in the local paper.

    50. Brace for Impact

      They say their on recess and vacation but have bugged out and are dug in…prepare for false flag and WWIII If the polititions and bankers show up to rebuild after the fires go out…kill them. Pray for your souls.

    51. Traitor Hator

      N95 dust masks stop 95% N 100 stop 100 %. Kelp tablets contain iodide for thyroid.

    52. Frank Thoughts

      The irony is this: by far the biggest threat to Western countries is from out-of-control migration from Africa, and terrorism and social decay caused by radical Islam. Asians, on the other hand, are a civilizing and wealth-creating force in the world and should be partnered with, not threatened. North Korea may be backward compared to many 21st century countries but North Korea is several generations ahead of any African country. North Koreans are disciplined, can make things, can think, can run a peaceful, crime-free society. It would be wiser to just do business with them and cut the lectures on free markets and democracy. They will get there in time as they get wealthier. China is a much freer place today than it ever was; gays are free to live their lifestyle there.

      The US military should be spending its time 24/7 kicking down doors in Western countries and snatching radical Muslims and illegal Africans, not wasting time and money posturing against Asians. If it really cared about preserving civilization, the US military would be fighting the forces of ignorance and laziness since those are the sources of social and economic decay.

      • watching and waiting

        Good point however, as with much that occurs on planet earth
        we are seeing a script being played out so that another ingredient of The New World order that can be added/imposed on the peoples of the world.

      • nameless

        Social (In)Security is insolvent in 5 short years. It will pay out more than it takes in. Did you
        read the ZH article? $47 million dollar shortfall. Most people cannot wrap their heads around that. That is more than double the amount of the national debt which will never be paid down. If they can’t pay down the national debt one cent, how can they fix the Social
        Security problem? Millions of people have no other safety net whatsoever. No IRA. No money in the bank, no pension. They are going to die. When you combine that with the
        pension crisis in many states, we are a banana republic in no time. Most states will not change their constitutions regarding pension obligations, which means taxpayers are on the hook. That is why someone moves out of the State of Illinois every 5 minutes. If they
        did print enough money to salvage it, a loaf of bread would cost $120 bucks. That is where
        we are headed. If this Korea thing is not executed quickly when things get hot, the worlds
        3rd and 7th(?) largest economies will be decimated. OR… OR…. maybe thats part of the
        plan. You get 2 of the worlds largest economies reeling and on the ropes and that just may
        benefit the economy of some other country. No? Of course, if China gets involved in this
        conflict, all bets are off. Look for a Deep State false flag to make it look like NK fired a missile at Guam or Hawaii or Alaska. That would be the ploy for China to stay neutral which is what they claim they would do if NK throws the first punch. I think Trump is making deals
        with the Deep State so he gets some of the things he wants and they get some of the things that they want. Hope he understands that in the end they will not live up to their end and he will be stabbed in the back which is what the Deep State always does. The Deep
        State will get its massive war and Trump may well get nothing out of it. We shall see. If the
        China-India thing turns into a big border war, China may not be able to commit to a 2 front
        war (Korean) at the same time. That could be part of the strategy as well. Get a Sino-India
        thing started so they would be too overextended to get involved with a NK-USA conflict.
        The Somali’s seem to gravitate towards the State of Minnesota. They must have some kind
        of We Are The World welcome mat hanging around the Twin Cities. They are also taking the
        Somali’s in at St. Cloud and Rochester. If North Koreans ever got a true taste of capitalism,
        they would bump off that little fat turd in a New York second.

    53. Brian

      It is good to see someone is having a good time. Emergency preparedness entrepreneurs are doing well; more power to them! I have been reading “Grain Brain” which tells about the impact of glutens on your body in general and your brain in particular. Pity that more MREs and Freeze-dried entrees aren’t gluten=free. For health reasons in an SHTF situation, you should master the art of fermenting foods like cabbage. High in Ladctobacillus and vitamin c, sauerkraut is a good choice. Good luck!

    54. Mark Tinley

      All this prepping for nothing. Wealth and stability are created out of thin air. They are never going to lose control of the system. Whatever happens is what they want to happen. Right now they just want to keep everyone in a state of fear and panic.

      Why do you think nothing has happened since 2001, 2007, 2008, etc? “They” are always at the wheel friends. Barring a comet striking earth or the eruption of a super volcano, life will go on as usual. No collapse. No meltdown. No ww3. No anything. They are going to continue to tell you that all these bad things are just around the corner like they always have. People will continue buying wares and etc. What’s the fad now? Iodine? Whats it going to be next month? This has been going on in the same pattern for years. Nothing is going to happenn.

      This is going to be a slow burn. Decades of decline till we reach third world status in every city and suburb. And nobody is going to stop it. Nobody. This is the plan. The few steal the wealth of the middle class until nothing is left. Put a quarter in yo ass cuz you just got played.

    55. Nailbanger

      I like all the people who think folks like us would just willingly share everything we scrimped and squirreled away so we would have what we need. I really cant stand that crap, especially people who have the money and ability to at least have a decent JIC stash but they chose to do nothing.

    56. The Deplorable Braveheart

      Nailbanger, I say f#$% all the people who didn’t lift a finger to prep for themselves and/or their families. If they won’t take responsibility for their own well-being then they deserve whatever is coming to them. If you don’t prep, you’re inept.

    57. Traitor Hator

      In 30 minutes 60 days food. Go in Walmart at the pharmacy doors. Multivitamins. Gray plastic boxes , 20 lb. sack of pintos,rice,flour,1 oil,salt,split peas,lentils,powdered milk, Done? Best to put oil in stronger container. Fills 2 small or 1 big box? About a dollar a day? Do this every night after, better before work.? Do it three times and you have 6 months above starvation diet? Hit one Walmart after another ? Get it done in 4 hours. 6 plastic boxes to store some were. Equate multis ,have iodine. Take 3 a day? Sugar and spice? Yeast? Detergent ? Insecticide? Toothpaste?deo.?Bleach?Bic lighters? Hand crank Solar radio flashlight? But , if you don’t have food , You won’t need anything else.

    58. Brian

      The more preppers, the better. People who have a stash of food and supplies are likely to stay home to protect that stash. They aren’t as likely to try to break into your home to take yours. Maybe a series of crises will maximize the number of prepared households.

    59. christine

      gee,i see people once again fall for the govt hysterical propaganda. sounds like the 1950’s again. i suggest everyone watch the original twilight zone episode “the monsters are due on maple street”

      • Traitor Hator

        I feel I won’t get totally hysterical when the stores are empty. But it will shake me up. Thinking of the poor children of the careless parents. What special kind of stupid could see and not consider. I can’t save them all, or even some. Surely I don’t understand. Who am I? We are Gods genetic,societal couseil experiment? I wonder how we made out? We’ll soon find out?

    60. Gadabout

      Actually, the CDC says adults over 40 have a low risk of getting thyroid cancer and a higher risk of side effects from these idoine tablets. And when you are even older, forgot what the cut off age is, you will probably die of something else before thyroid cancer can develop.

      • Traitor Hator

        Yes, I t will probably get more and more difficult to find truth. Control the present , and you control the future.? We could be controlled in the past, but now ? The Samson option?

    61. lonelonmum

      I’m far more interested in how useful PoC in Charlottesville think their preps are right now. What do they now wish they had available that they hadn’t thought to purchase? What items do they think are particularly useful? Are there any steps they intend to take now in light of what they have learned after the events of this weekend?

      It strikes me as more probable that the West will be imploded by its own fifth column terrorists than any external enemy.

      An article from a PoC in the affected area of Virgina state would be appreciated right now Mac Slavo.

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