In the midst of the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression in which millions of Americans have lost jobs we can expect even more competition in the employment marketplace.
According to AP sources, President Obama will speak today about a new administration policy that will grant immunity from deportation for some 800,000 immigrants who have entered the country illegally.
The Obama administration will stop deporting and begin granting work permits to younger illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as children and have since led law-abiding lives. The election-year initiative addresses a top priority of an influential Latino electorate that has been vocal in its opposition to administration deportation policies.
The policy change, described to The Associated Press by two senior administration officials, will affect as many as 800,000 immigrants who have lived in fear of deportation.
Under the administration plan, illegal immigrants will be immune from deportation if they were brought to the United States before they turned 16 and are younger than 30, have been in the country for at least five continuous years, have no criminal history, graduated from a U.S. high school or earned a GED, or served in the military. They also can apply for a work permit that will be good for two years with no limits on how many times it can be renewed.
Opponents of the new policy argue that the move will not only add pressure to an already struggling economy, education and healthcare system, but will likely strengthen Obama’s position in the upcoming Presidential election by adding hundreds of thousands of new voters sentimental to democrat candidates.
While it is illegal to vote in a Presidential election unless you are a U.S. citizen, the only thing a would-be voter needs to cast a ballot is proof of residency (in most States, not even that is required), which is easily obtainable once immunity or legal status is granted.
Barack Obama, you are going to prison soon sir. how many times do you think you will break the law before it happens?
you got that right. This guy is the lying snake 2 faced worthless POS. And im no big fan of mitt either but obama is a complete joke and I can’t believe the people that still vote for this asshole.
People still vote for this asshole because they are on the dole: They will all sacrifice their liberties for a little bit of temporary security. There are also those who will vote for him because they are racist blacks who can’t bring themselves to vote for a white candidate, even if the one they are voting for is a mulatto, and there’s also the hard core democrat libtard who is so oblivious and dense that he/she feels impelled to vote for this guy only because he is the only thing his/her party has to offer and they can’t fathom having another republican in office, even if he is a RINO.
The people who are voting for the Rommunist in a vain attempt to oust the asshole we have now need to realize nothing will change with the RINO. I understand the lame duck prez concept but do you want to be the frog who jumps out of the pot of boiling water or the one who gets nice and comfy before he realizes he’s being cooked? By no means am I saying vote for this shit stain on the underwear of America we have now but don’t get the impression you have a choice that will change the course of this ship we are all on.
Meh, he’s about as much a lib as yosemite Sam. He’s a global corporatist, something much worse. Romney’s simply an oligarch. Similar agenda, but quite different methods. Soon as we can drop the “libs” “teabaggers” and “neocons” attitudes and focus on the real problems we’ll still realize it’s far too late.
Voting is irrelevant now. It has been since JFK. The only way to defeat the NWO is to get rid of the elite, bankers and all 535 of the “government officials” and start over with a three-party system, close the borders, no outside interference, adhere to the letter of the Constitution. Will never happen.
Am I wrong or is it ILLEGAL under federal law to aid an illegal in ANY way?
800000 is a drop in the bucket…How about the 21 million more that are HERE?
Arizona has already rid ourselves of this vermin, They have since moved to california. We thank cali for their assistance.
I wonder WHY they have an 800 BILLION financial “problem”
Wait until Nevada gets some real leaders,instead of the HACK reid,and the 1 million illegals who are loved by nevada,FLEE to cali also….
Florida…another illegal loving state, ALSO one of the TOP 3 in financial suicide….TIME TO WAKE UP TO OBINGO AND THE ILLEGAL PLAGUE ON THIS ONCE GREAT COUNTRY>>>
Why it is imperative to have a massive immigration into the United States now:
Ordinary Americans -primordially the ones of European ancestry- are the offspring failed generations. In fact, the states involved in eugenics during the first decades of the twentieth century did not strictly enforce the sterilization laws on those people (mentally impaired, low IQs, retards, deformed individuals, disease carriers, imbeciles, etc). Their ancestors were labeled as undesirables by the European monarchies of the time and subsequently, expelled from their native countries. The myth these people came to America in search of better lives was designed to cover such painful historical reality.
Consequently, the following generations are the best evidence that defective genes have been transmitted from one breed to the next and worst of all, the chances that their descendants’ DNA carrying a more complex sequence of these mutated genes are 100% guaranteed: they can be confirmed by performing scientific tests (bizarre mutations that will make these individuals being categorized as subhumans).
The so-called Baby Boomers are an excellent case study: during the sixties these people (90% of them European Americans) invested their deprived intellect in experimenting with all types of drugs and having very promiscuous sexual lives (most of the time unhygienic, incestuous and sometimes deviant or unnatural). Today their descendants suffer from sorts of congenital malformations or diseases (a 1:3 ratio) and their existence depend heavily on prescribed medications. Not in vain, Baby Boomers have been described as America’s failed generation and the scientific evidence tend to corroborate such assertion.
It is a fact that modern European Americans fail to reproduce mainly because of low sperm counts in males and successive miscarriages in women (a 1:2 ratio). Moreover, many servicemen misguided by their patriotism and deceived by the US Department of Defense were exposed to chemical-biological-nuclear agents and today, these people are suffering from all sorts of incurable illnesses. It is a disgusting reality to witness many of these soldiers and their offspring begging to the US Government to gain access to medical treatment and demanding monetary compensation for the irreversible damage inflicted on them.
Additionally, with the introduction of genetically modified organisms into the food chain -GMOs- in the early seventies, the majority of these people have now a life expectancy of 60 years at the most. As a result of this, Americans of European ancestry are at high risk of developing new malign (and unknown) forms of cancers and cardiovascular diseases at early ages. It is estimated that by the year 2015, the disable population in the United States will reach alarming levels (a 1:4 ratio, primordially European Americans) and the health system will face total collapse if corrective measures are not taken.
Therefore, the only way to sustain this unproductive generation of Americans (approximately 80% of the entire population of the United States today) is by legalizing the approximately 20 million unlawfully present immigrants residing in this country and subsequently, authorizing a massive immigration of people from elsewhere in order to be assimilated into the system, so government can heavily tax these newcomers.
Besides that, never forget the following: “It is better for all the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind…Three generations of imbeciles are enough.”
Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.
Buck v. Bell, 274 U.S. 200 (1927)
America will need more than a hundred million foreigners to help paying the astronomical costs related to the care of these subhumans.
@Tym gotta disagree: he is a FASCIST. Thats when Big Government and Big Business shake hands, and the little guy gets squashed in their grip.
That is why I refer to him and his soul dead followers as OBAMANAZIS
“Hans Moeller,” this is (I believe) about the thirtieth time I’ve seen you post this flawed, fallacious, false-premise laden screed. Though I think your REAL name is probably one originating from some place further EAST than those lands that would spawn a so-called “Hans Möller” (like, maybe Czernowitz, Pinsk or Vilna, all of them great centers of Talmudic scholarship), let’s assume that you ARE what you claim to be.
Nevertheless, “Herr Moeller,” I find it intriguing that as a supposed GERMAN, you lack an “umlaut” key on your computer keyboard, and are thus compelled to spell your name “Moeller” instead of “Möller,” as any REAL GERMAN would do.
Assuming for now that you are “German,” you’re obviously the European counterpart of the ignorant USan, HFCS-slurping “subhuman” who has no idea of what life is like on the other side of the Atlantic, but in your case your abject stupidity is being projected westward (against the wind as it were) instead of eastward with the Gulf Stream.
First, to generalize about the ENTIRETY of European immigration to these shores, from 1607 to the PRESENT day in one blanket statement indicates a lack of even a rudimentary attempt to correlate your “samples” or data, such as it is, chronologically. For example, I know MANY naturalized Amerikans who were born in Europe, and even MORE, SECOND generation Amerikans of European background, a statistical subset for which you do not even account.
Behind your pseudo-“scientific” smokescreen is your obvious ACCEPTANCE and apparent support for the poisonous “melting pot” ideology created by the Zionist Jew Israel Zangwill, to wit, that all Amerikans are- or should be considered as a uniform blend of mystery meat with the UNIFORM characteristics, shows your superficiality and SUPPORT for the official ideology of our Zionist masters.
Your first SPECIFIC mistake is to assert that [White Amerikans] “ancestors were labeled as undesirables by the European monarchies of the time and subsequently, expelled from their native countries.” Your authoritarian mindset is noted, but I ask — since when does a government’s (ANY government’s) supposed “labeling” of something as “this-or-that” make it SO in actuality? Maybe only in the minds of bureaucrat-ridden “Bundesfuck” cunts like you who are unable to defecate without official permission and a rubber stamp of approval on your Turk-ridden buttocks.
In New York City and vicinity where I lived for the first 35 years of my life, there were HUGE NUMBERS of first- and second generation Amerikans of Polish, Ukrainian, Finnish, Czech, Slovak and Irish origin. These were and are EUROPEANS whose forebears came here from countries that were then- occupied by “European monarchies of the time,” and who were indeed considered “undesirable” by the 19th century imperialists who were attempting to CONQUER their lands and TRANSFORM them into something they were NOT. Some stayed home and fought while others stayed home and did nothing, while still others who didn’t want to submit to FOREIGN KINGS had to leave to avoid PRISON or worse.
There are TENS of MILLIONS of white ethnics in this country with this family history, but apparently, not in the moronic “calculations” you apparently got off on old box of East German “Mokka Fix” coffee from the HO on the Alexanderplatz. (OOPS, this a LAPSE on my part, because as I stated above, I DOUBT you are “German” at all)
The next flaw in your argument, Chaim — oops, I mean “Hans,” (or is it Sanjay or Muhammad?) — is that, according to all US censuses in which ancestry/ethnicity has been tabulated, the single LARGEST ethnic group among Whites in Amerika is GERMAN. Germans have been here since JAMESTOWN (1607). TEXAS is historically an major area for German-American settlement, as is PENNSYLVANIA, where George Washington found a very friendly and supportive population during the Revolutionary War. Until not long ago, many US cities had Turnvereine, Sängerbunden and Steuben-Tag celebrations, many of which I have attended. I assure you there was never any drug use or congenital idiocy there, you media-worshiping scumbag cunt. Now why would a supposed “German” deride GERMAN Amerikans as you do?
Thirdly, you worthless filth, in those parts of the country where there is a high percentage of Amerikans of Anglo-Saxon origin, free of the the diversity plague, health-, socioeconomic-, quality of life- and public safety statistics describe a populace that is HEALTHY, INTELLIGENT, EDUCATED and SOCIALLY RESPONSIBLE. Look to Vermont, New Hampshire and Maine for such typical Anglo areas, and to the negro-free Dakotas where similar high quality populations (but mainly of SCANDINAVIAN origin) also live. And contrary to Zionist stereotypes, huge swaths of the SOUTH also enjoy high quality indices among its heavily Anglo/Scotch Irish populace. The type of “degenerate” you attribute to Amerika (a type very common on the streets of Amsterdam and Hamburg, BTW) is a phenomenon of the so-called INTERNATIONAL “youth culture,” which is mainly the creation of Zionist Frankfurt School media propaganda.
I think you are a crippled non-white or Mischling posing as a European to sow the seed of dissension in the “enemy camp” as it were. But assuming you are not, and are just some Bundes-kraut degenerate who should be euthanized under the T-4 Program (where’s Heinrich Himmler now that we REALLY need him?), who’s having a bad day because of his recent breakup with his Turkish boyfriend from Kreuzberg, I leave you with the following heartfelt salutation:
Leck mir den Arsch fein recht schön sauber, du Scheißkerl!
“Hans Moeller” (or is it Rajiv Gupta?) errnoneously claimed:
“It is a fact that modern European Americans fail to reproduce mainly because of low sperm counts in males and successive miscarriages in women (a 1:2 ratio).
Where do you get these statistics? Here’s some reality, for you, scumbag.
1) According to the US Census of 1960, 158,831,732 respondents out of a total population of 179,323,175 reported as being WHITE. You can find it HERE:
2) According to the US Census of 2010, 223.6 million respondents out of a total population of 308,745,538 reported as being WHITE. You can find it HERE:
3) Therefore, the White Amerikan population has enjoyed an increase of approximately sixty-four million in the last 60 years. Only a very relatively small percentage of this can be attributed to White immigration form other countries, especially in light of the anti-white quota system built into US immigration policy since 1965.
4) It appears that the supposed lack of fecundity of White Amerikans postulated by the anti-White troll calling itself “Hans Moeller” represents only wishful thinking on its part. The fact that (in 2010) out of a total US population of 308,745,538, only 223.6 million reported as White is due not to a failure to reproduce, but to a MASSIVE influx of colonists originating in non-white countries. Of course, an actual GERMAN would know that the demographic situation in his own country looks even BLEAKER, and thus would probably not make light of the supposed natural “decline” of White Amerikans too readily. This is more indication of the likelihood that “Hans [no umlaut key] Moeller” is some Third World- or Zionist turd posing as a German.
Have you got any more “statistics” for us, you pseudo-scientific scumbag troll?
And that, Mr. Moeller, would be Ahab, handing your butt to you.
With a bow.
While I personally do not have the same aversion to mixed races as Ahab, I have to disagree even more fervently with your classification of an entire generation of Americans as “sub-human”. And 80% of them being non-productive? Cite your sources and define “unproductive”, Mr. Moeller. I also have to say, with your broad paintbrush of subhuman, which side of that 80-20 line do you fall on? I have my suspicions.
Hey Hans, your name gives you away.
Who/what religion would think gentiles are sub- human?
They have their own calander
They say in code jesus had sex with his horse
They say in code mary was a whore
They say in code gentiles are sub-human
They say the 10 commandments are for them and them alone
They pass this companion book out with “their” bible with the true meaning of these words (in country A).
I know, I know, I am an anti-semite
Troll Alert! Re: “Hans Moeller” —
I did some investigating on this anti-White turd and my suspicions of a Third World origin for it (due to the inherent stupidity of its “reasoning”) are confirmed. Germans are much smarter than he obviously is. Take this RANDOM snippet from his screed and do a Google search on it:
“bizarre mutations that will make these individuals being categorized as subhumans…”
As you can see from certain of the more revealing search results, this POS is definitely NOT “German” by any stretch of the imagination, but something from south of the foetid, reeking sewer known as the Rio Grande. Creatures of his type are among the top beneficiaries of a complete breakdown of US borders, and something in his pre-packaged screed made me suspect that he had a personal stake in this. They have the nerve to refer to US as subhumans, even while posing as “helpless” immigrants who only want to be let in so they can “have a better life” while they savagely hate our very existence.
This filth been using several variations on the “Hans” meme to post his cut-and-pasted article EVERYWHERE. His online blog identities include the ACTUAL name of some poor guy in Switzerland (a minor official in some outlying Swiss Canton) who probably has NO idea what’s been going on with his moniker, as well as the British slang-word for a male who engages in auto eroticism (fittingly enough, it turns out).
This is for the “muchacho” behind “Hans Moeller” — I wish Amerika would go to war against ALL you smelly and ugly scum. I’d volunteer for it and be really GOOD at it too. If you’re here already, on the day when Amerikans eventually get fed up enough to institute regime change and establish new LAWS here, you are going to have a REALLY hard time. I advise you to play it safe and LEAVE NOW, and take your Obama doll with you.
You only know the White Amerikan through the prism of TV and your insipid juvenile barrio “culture” of perpetual sexual hysteria and stupid salsa jive. Your average-90 IQ points are causing you to make a FATAL miscalculation and assume that we will just give up and let you take what’s ours. YOU are not fighting us and winning — it is our WMD-armed and militarized government and its SECRET POLICE, drones and masked RAIDERS who are fighting us and winning. Most of them are our OWN people and they may one day wake up. Until then, they are “your” only chance of “defeating” us. Your feeble attempts at demoralization are as doomed as YOU are before history.
I think that pretending to be “Deutsch” must have felt like a BIG step UP for you, monkey boy! And you thought you’d get the Whites, the gringos, the gabachos to fight among themselves, didn’t you? Real Americans who’ve been to Germany know: Deutschland ist prima!
Have a nice life puking up and eating the same re-fried beans over and over again. Don’t they look the same going in as they do going OUT?
Hans: The number of illegals exceed more than 30 million and that does not include the number who have slipped back over the border to again live in their old villages until their cousin can get them another job at Carl’s Jr or they can get one on their own at the new billion dollar Ford factory.
Two years ago OUR own government estimated the number of illegals to be 20 million and that number was grossly under estimated according to respected private estimates which suggested the number could realistically be between 40 and 60 million.
Only the PEW organization which is a NWO propagandist suggest the number of illegals is less than 20 million, claiming that there are only 9 to 11 million illegals in the USA.
White (European) Americans do not proliferate because they are better educated and more intelligent than OUR Latino illegal counterparts who have, on average, a 6th to 8th grade education; not because their sperm count is lower.
Why would anyone father more children than they can feed, clothe, or educate?
Illegal Latinos do that because they lack the sense of moral responsibility to their children that flows from a better education. They also proliferate because the Catholic Church urges them to do so.
It was the demonic Satanic Priesthood that conceived the plan to infiltrate the US and developed a 500 unit strong national food bank system to feed illegals all across America; and then ask US taxpayers to subsidize it: both privately and publicly.
Yes American taxpayers pay for the Catholic Church food bank system that supports illegals in America, through federal grants, while they take American jobs.
Why would anyone, like the Catholic Church, morally encourage anyone to have children they cannot afford to feed, clothe, educate and shelter?
It is so the Catholic Church can solicit funds for the “poor” and skim the proceeds from an unsuspecting world of do-gooders who have compassion on the poor; yet do not recognize that the Catholic Church uses the poor to fund their perverted Satanic Catholic Priesthood and global pedophilia.
Illegal Immigration is a strategy of the NWO to change the racial demographics of America, undermine loyalty to America by populating the nation with individuals whose loyalties live outside of OUR national boundaries, and dissolve the US Constitution by merging the USA into the NAU with Mexico.
Illegal Immigration must be reversed. All illegals must return to their country of birth.
The Kenyan goes first!
I wish I could say what I really felt about this mann but if I did I would surely be arrested. Who knows, I may have just exposed myself because I expressed the fact that I have bad thoughts about him.
Just about right on that Highspeed, he’s obviously shiitting his pants, so he needs more uneducated yes men to vote for him, read an absolutely wonderful article today on his stupidity (all the washington cronies as well) check it out, and I’ll see you in prison!
Yes I had to mince my words as well with that thought in mind. That used to be one of things that made America great, that we could dissent without fear of reprisal. Not so much anymore. 🙁
Not to worry Highspeed, the TelePrompter In Chief is going down in flames like the tax fattened parasite that he is. Seriously, does he think that there will be an UPSIDE for his re-election prospects by doing this? Hell no…. the backlash against this among every blue collar unemployed in this country is going to be a tidal wave. This will include not only white guys, but black Americans too: who do you think has been displaced the most by cheap illegal labor? This is going to work out just like his sudden “coming out” in favor of gay marriage: he was ahead in North Carolina, now he’s 8 points behind here.
Stick a fork in this dunce, he is DONE
Direct link on Drudge Report
Obama Jobs Program: Help Illegals Compete with Americans for Scarce Jobs
“The Obama administration will stop deporting and begin granting work permits to younger illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as children…”
Have you all seen this? We are DEFINITELY living in a modern day dictatorship. When will We the People do something about it… and I am NOT talking about the damn ballot box!
See these short vids from a new headline:
…. well i dont know…… How many buckets of food does he have, like four or something?
I had wondered why the US governement and especially the Democratic party has been encouraging illegals to come here. What could they gain from it. Now this explains it. They teach them how to come here illegally and get free money,food, medical and schooling and now how to vote illegally so they can put into office those who will promise to keep giving them free stuff.
AND I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THOSE WHO WORK AND RAISE FAMILIES AND PAY TAXES AND LIVE AS GOOD CITIZENS! I have many friends who are hard working latino or latino decent and I am second generation american but not latino. I have worked since I turned 16 years old, put myself through college and served in the military.
This explains alot for me. They are following the Cloward and Piven strategy to bring in the New World order.
Overwhelm the system. Add more (beholden to Obama) citizens to compete for less jobs in this struggling economy. Add more people to the Medicaid and food stamps rolls. After the system has “crashed”, the people will be begging for the government to “fix” the problem.
Nearly everything is in place now. Thanks to our complicit media … the majority of the population doesn’t even realize it. They have established the needed programs, laws, FEMA camps, 450 million rounds of hollow point ammo ordered, etc.
Who needs Congress, when executive orders / decrees will accomplish the goal much quicker?
“Socialize America by overwhelming the system with government spending and entitlement demands. … Turn the United States into a socialist/Marxist state with a permanent majority that desperately needs government for survival … and can be counted on to always vote for bigger government. Why not? They have no responsibility to pay for it.”
Having the extra voters needed for this “election” will ensure Obama an extra 4 years to “complete the task”.
not sure who gave you thumbs down for passing along solid info and not just an opinion. i’ll start the thumbs up for ya neighbor!
I agree that this has clearly been the plan for several Administrations now. Obama is just doing it quicker for an end run around Congress and the people by passing his own laws. Their impatience is showing.
Not disagreeing with you, but think about this. It was the youth vote that helped get him elected. The same youth that still have no jobs and no future and he just brought in 800,000 more to compete for what few opportunities there are.
It would not surprise me to see the same youth that voted for him, start rising up against him. Look who supports Ron Paul. It may well be the youth of this nation that starts the revolution when they realize they got nothing to lose and obozo was the one who ruined it for them.
Thanks neighbor! 🙂
Not to be argumentative, but the Obamanation is in NO WAY deserving of the title or to be addressed as “sir”.
disgusting ill educated selfish illegal biitch with a throne to his name in hell? Probably as Hitlers right hand ass licker… See, it is myself who grants any freedom of speech, we dont need ink on paper or people who “uphold” it (obviously no one upholds anything these days, oaths or not)
Unless it ends in ‘pent.’
v, agreed. i only say it to get his attention and try to respect the opposition. he is not a sir or a gentleman though, hes a total disgrace is what he really is.
I agree V, thats why I call him the TelePrompter in Chief, and his followers ObamaNazis.
Heck, its either that or “no talent assclown”
Well get ready, he will get elected again, even if they have to rig the election,
You have that right! David Axelrod probably has known for a long time that Obama is in deep trouble and at risk of not being reelected. Now they are going to pull out all of the stops and this one of them. More to come I’m sure. The only thing that Obama has done has pissed off 75% of the Americans and now he is reduced to buying votes from out of country. Buying off the electret and voter fraud is the only way he can prevail. We need to sit on this prick and get rid of him.
This is a “Hail Mary” from a President in deep trouble because of the economy. There aren’t too many more tricks he can pull out of his “Bag-of-Tricks”. The problem is timing-he did this too soon because as we all know most of the American sheeple have the attention span of a three-yer-old. This will all but be forgotten by election time. GHWB #41 was at an all time high right after the the Gulf War but he lost to BJ and Company (Billy J. Clinton) due to the economy and this will be the only issue come this November. Good luck to us all.
if the election polls are close look for obama to forgive all student debt and that will seal the deal
Oh; no doubt about that!!
Have to disagree Mark: so far his pandering has left him worse off. Look at his sudden “coming out” on gay marriage: it was a deliberate slap in the face to everyone in North Carolina, where people had voted only TWO DAYS EARLIER in favor of real marriage. He had been ahead in NC now hes something like 8 or 9 points behind.
I predict that this little stunt of his will cost him both Nevada and Colorado…. backlash ring a bell????
son of sam
i hope your right but even if it does do you really think romney will be any better
son of sam
dont know if your still following thease comment if you are check out the sunday interviews with romney. he wont say that he would recind obamas policy.
i stand by my comment, rep/dem peas in a pod if you want real change its time to start voting 3rd party
He will win re-election.
Everyone on these sites wants the same thing, less and except the trolls. But, the majority of Amerikans are so asleep and really do not care about the country anymore. They will vote for anyone who lets them keep their free crap, iphones, taco bell, football and malls. There is no patriotism left in msa. We all know that it was a strategic move to stop deporting illegals. He will gain more than lose because of the youth of this country. They do not understand what it means to be an AMERICAN anymore. I can see him forgiving student loans to further cement the “me generation” vote. My belief is that more than half of all amerikans would openly vote for communism if it kept them from having to think for themselves.
We are indeed up shit creek and washington d.c. has stolen our paddles.
Well, I wonder (and hope) since the election will be Nov. 6th, if we will have our own version of ….
“Remember, remember the 5th of November”??? Let us hope and pray!!!!
I hold to my original prediction of over 2 years ago. That is… it is already “bought and paid for” by TPTB. They will in NO WAY allow their devious and evil plans to be thwarted now. They’ve come to far… they have the world in complete turmoil… they are unfortunately on the cusp of completing their plans.
This is why I way, we NEED our own 5th of Nov!!!
I’m afraid that is just wishful thinking on your part.
He’ll never get so much as a spanking, much less prison.
You got the right. As a matter of fact, we will not be rid of him even if he doesn’t get re-elected. Look for him to head the U.N. next. The whole world loves him. We will be putting up with him for many years.
Hmmm. That is a scary thought.
Obama as head of the U.N. … poised to implement the New World Order.
Politics: Chicago style.
What makes you think he’s going to prison? Who is going to prosecute him? Eric Holder?
No….Make no mistake about it. We no longer live in a republic governed by law. We live in a banana republic….governed by decree of a dictator who recognizes no law but his own.
Think Congress will do anything about this?
Fat chance. They are a bunch of spineless cowards. All of them.
Face it…..the United States of America, as conceived by the founders is DEAD.
It’s over. FINISHED.
There will be no peaceful restoration of this country.
I can’t remember “who” off the top of my head said “THE SYSTEM AS IT EXISTS NEEDS TO DIE AND BE REBORN”. Birth or RE-birth always seems to involve a certain amount of “someones” blood. Still think I’m “off-base” while the constitution becomes the current “white” house toilet paper.
“There will be no peaceful restoration of this country”…but IT can be restored. NOT at any federal level ballot box. Still convinced “your right/choice/vote” will be legitimate should the November election even be allowed to materialize?
Obimbo’s Oklahoma City and 9/11 combined is “just around the corner”. Join the REVOLUTION NOW, and DEMAND a populist movement to IMPEACH this “teleprompting meglomaniac idiot” TODAY!
Followed IMMEDIATELY by the removal the “congressional” constitutional “mirages” that have ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN. HELL, ‘they’ are not only accomplices, ‘they’ are equally guilty as charged. Kick-Them-All-Out AND prosecute them with extreme prejudice. IN THE PEOPLES COURT, not the appointed Supremely Bought/Paid for Court.
Time to “get-a-rope”!!! Time to “get-alot-of-ropes”!
For “those” that still believe “my vote counts”, you must be a “wet-back” in line for a “dictatorial declaration of amnesty”. HEIL OBIMBO. HEIL THE FACIST STATES OF AMERIKA. No LAW but Obimbo’s law. Awake yet????
Brother of a different mother!!!…(remember)????
Ping the matriarch of these boards…she has contact data!
@Gunsmith, very good to hear from you. I currently have two of the “grand-munchkins” in custody for the weekend but will “ping” the matriach asap, between “domestic duties”, or “duty” as appears in various portions of said munchkins apparel. Ms. Matriarch, remind me of your “ping location”. Godspeed to all.
I don’t know how to reach you Gunsmith.
I’ve said since he was running for president.. he is the biggest danger this country has seen since our forefathers fought in 1776….. God help the USA..
wow, you really think voter fraud is at the top of this agenda? Well, you can keep legislating voter suppression then. The american way.
Yes, I for one, really think voter fraud is at the top of the agenda, Lisa.
Think about it, the LAW is that you must be a citizen to vote. However in order to vote, you don’t have to prove citizenship – you only have to prove residence – it is a system designed to be supportive of fraud.
Well said, Daisy.
Gee….requiring citizenship to vote is voter suppression, huh?
Did you get that from a focus group, or was it just part of your public school education?
@Lisa his entire life has been built on voter fraud: this jackass started out as part of the Chicago political machine after all, and dumbasses like you voted for him because you were stupid enough to believe in “change we can believe in”. Have another hit off the bong, you retromingent ObamaNazi assclown. Then slither off and crouch in your cave and swig some Kool Aid while chanting “yes we can” over and over like the brain dead fool you are
He’ll never be impeached no matter what he does. He should be removed from office but it won’t happen.
Unless “We the People” rise! I often have to ponder what it’s going to take for the Patriots of this country to “water the tree of liberty” as it were? Historically speaking, it will not be a majority who forms this patriotic group, it will be the 5% or so that has had enough and is willing to “give their lives, fortunes and sacred honor” to end the tyranny within!
What is that proverbial line in the sand? What more must we, the 5%, allow? These my friends are the questions that must be answered soon…
V you are correct, the 3% that fought the British, are the ones that will restore this Republic, We have this in our DNA..We will Be the Ones to Fight.again the Torries, will be with the Traitors…Semper Fi!
Dictator Of The United States
The New Colossus
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
“Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she
With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
Emma Lazarus, 1883
America the squater’s camp
Someone dumped thier filth on thee
And crowned thy good
With gangs in yer hood’
Your demise is what you see….
Listen to the attitude “I didn’t ASK for an argument and next time you will wait to ask questions until I am finished speaking” – pointing his bony finger at a reporter
Link to follow
weeklystandard dot com/blogs/reporter-heckles-obama-white-house-immigration-announcement_647290 dot html
The “Manchurian candidate” has exceeded ‘his’ programming. ‘HE’ believes his telepromted hyperbole. ‘He’ believes…”HE is the ONE”. Above the constitution, above “the-law-of-the-land”, and most importantly: ABOVE ANY RETRIBUTION OR QUESTION by the “serfs of his ASSUMED kingdom”.
What say you…do WE facilitate that “fairytale” for ‘HIM’, or do WE “STOP HIM IN HIS FANTASY TRACKS”?!?
Well pal I hate to tell you this but he does whatever he wants. He is black and can do anything since he has the race card. It also helps that the Stupid party is worthless. Why are we even paying the congress and senate? They are totally worthless and might as well just stay home. This country is so over and no one cares.
John W ~
I understand your frustration but it sounds as though you’ve already given up. As long as there are resistors, nothing is “so over”. There are many small ways that every day people can take action – for example, sharing information and helping to remove the blinders from other people. There is strength in numbers and we are on the cusp of a great awakening. Yental is absolutely correct – WE are the ones that can stop this.
@Yental~ check out the right sidebar of my blog for the info you recently requested.
Poor little boo hoo hoo baby: someone dares to disagree with him, so now he’s going to hold his breath and turn blue. waaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just part of the NWO plan to change the demographics of America to merge the US into the NAU with Mexico and dissolve the US Constitution
….. by REFERENDUM!
Engage your employee or be enslaved by him!
well with this new opportunity im going to be voting for RP when he gets the nomination.
“It is enough to say there was an election. Those who cast the ballots decide nothing. Those who count the ballots decide everything.” – Joseph Stalin
Do you even know who will count your “ballot”?
Don’t hold your breath. TPTB will NEVER allow it. Haven’t you been keeping up with the events that have unfolded over the last few weeks? Realize the facts, and the truth within these facts, and prepare!
eeder, you’re dreaming.
No one is going to arrest TPTB, or the puppet,O’bummer. We have all heard the fantasy story about the Military bucking up, and busting them all; and it’s just that: disinformational fantasy propaganda, designed to make you feel like everything’s going to be OK…
The NWO is here. War has been silently declared on the people who are the backbone of Western Civilization. All I see are fat, lazy whiners, who are no longer capable of standing up against those who’s ultimate goal is to kill them.
The America you knew is gone. It was usurped 100+ years ago, and the WW2 generation ensured that the parasites would own the place. The Founding Fathers have wasted thier time, blood and efforts.
Perhaps this is the way it is at the end of every civilization, a relative handful of people who care, watch powerless, as a handful of usurping parasites destroy thier country from within.
Prison is too good for this …………Gad, there just ain’t enough words nor room to print them to describe him. I’d like to see something other than prison for this fool.
My wife and I have spent over $5000.00 to get her immigration status done legally and this POS gives it away to illegal invaders for free!
That, or the gallows….
La Raza=The Race
Y’all are going to shit your pants when Romney gets elected and continues the fascist policies of every single president, Republican and Democrat, that preceded him. Including these same immigration policies.
Stop and think for a minute people. You keep wanting to focus on one man, Obama. You keep thinking you have found the devil himself, and if only you could get rid of him then America would be strong and free and proud again. Bullshit. The problem isn’t Obama. The problem is that all of you fall for the propaganda – every stinking time. The problem is that you continue to think there’s a “good” side and a “bad” side.
STOP believing what you are told on television and online, and think for yourselves. A few immigrants are not the problem either. The PTB in charge love it when the people/sheeple get themselves all in a lather over a single politician, or a single issue – it takes the focus off the real players – those who actually financially benefit – greatly – from your ignorance.
We all know he needs more Deocratic voters, but this is a blatant ass-wiping of the constitution. Screw you, BHO
Best way to sum him up: a criminal.
Nah, I can think of some better choice words to sum him up than that.
Didn’t he say he had some suprizes in store that would shore up the election….Is this the rabbit/hat he had in mind????
and here I thought he was planning on picking Hillary as VP.
Either way….same ole shit
Hows about fascist criminal? As in OBAMANAZI
F*ck the Kool Aid drinkers!
He’s too “Cool”. Code word by white for you know what. ha
I really do not think most people give a damn what “color” he is. He is an idiot and idiots come in a wide variety of “colors”
He’s not an idiot. He’s an evil man. The destruction to our economy has been 100% deliberate.
Yeah but if you’re white and you think he’s an idiot, you must be a racist.
It doesn’t matter what color he is, all shit stinks the same
your vote doesent mean poo // the bilderberg group has allready decieded who the next prezz will Be!! don’t forget the pet food>>>
They hedge their bets owning both horses in the two horse race.
Most often (but not always) the Democrat is used to further their domestic agenda and the Republican is used to move their foreign agenda forward. Obama so far has successfully moved both for the Power Elite. I think his shield of racism is weakening and more criticism is coming forward. His desirability as President from the perspective of the Power Elite is linked to his ability to continue to do their bidding unrestrained. I think that door is closing.
Regardless both are owned.
Illegal Immigration, dumbing-down the America public via education system, pushing immorality, destroying the family core (man and woman), debt is good mentality, welfare system, et al., have worked perfectly to collapse our country. Congratulations banking elite, you have accomplished your goal.
yep, he has taken a dad and mom into a guy and a guy and broke every law but wants to ban about all gun ever made and get everyone on welfare and people can’t even see that this is the purpose to get government in control of everything. I can’t believe people in nY will allow sodas over a certain size to be banned. At this point its so laughable but at same time unbelievable and sad. Yet so many idiots that support this POS. I just don’t get it. He has divided us into classes race you name it and you don’t even have to be that smart to see it happen and people worship this asshole. I just wish we had the power to have everyone who supports this clown in hollywood not see or buy their movies and put these clown out of control
the banking elite didnt do that, “Illegal Immigration, dumbing-down the America public via education system, pushing immorality, destroying the family core (man and woman), debt is good mentality, welfare system, et al”.
that’s on elected officials. the banking elite would rather have kept things slow and steady as this crashes their party too. even in Russia, they have had these problems.
its government doing what they wish with no accountability that leads to system crashes.
Incorrect. The banking elite own the government officials. Read some history of the Roths childs, Albert Pike, the Vatican and the British Monarch.
And the “black pope”
Dead wrong: if they had accomplished their goal, our minds would not be free, and not only would we be unable to resist, we wouldn’t be able to think the thought that we MUST resist. So long as a single one of us believes and holds dear the principles of our founders, they have not won.
Obama needs the mexican votes and instead of spending 100 million for their votes he can just dictate this proposal so he has instant supporters for his reelection .Just think, you can live here and break the law for 5 years being in America and then get this nice reward . 4 more years of this crap and kiss this Nation bye bye !
the kids did not break any laws when they were brought here by their parents. Who knows, with all this post apocalyptic nonsense, what happens when you become the refugee of canada? That will be so hilarious.
You’re houses/farms can be overrun, you can’t combat thousands.
They broke laws by being here. Tough shit if their parents brought them. Take that up with your parents when you get back to Central America. How do you deport 30M illegals? One busload at a time!
Technically, the kids did break the law — they entered the country illegally. However, they did not make the choice — their parents did. It seems a little harsh to deport someone (often times to a strange country and language) for someone else’s choice. More than that, a kid who has lived here for 5 years, finished high school, stayed out of trouble and wants to go to college or join the Army doesn’t sound like he/she will make such a bad citizen.
they are NOT citizens, and fools like you making excuses doesn’t change that fact: Trying to play with words to cloud the issue does nothing either: illegal aliens are not “undocumented persons” any more than drug dealers are “unlicensed pharmacists”
Im tired of this lame excuse! If MY parent(s) broke the law they’d be in jail and we’d be separated!!!! WTF is the difference!?
@ lisa: first of all you dumbass ObamaNazi, there are a lot more of us than there are of you. Second of all, the thought of you or any of your kind “over running” my house or that of any one of us is is laughable: the last sound your pathetic excuse for a brain would hear would be “rack-RACK”, followed by kerblam. And third of all, these are not “kids” and many of these illegal aliens are older than my children, all of whom are working their way through college, and are FURIOUS that “their” President is dispensing favors to yet another interest group.
You Sir Are Correct, if these Liberal Bastards and the La Raza types, and Obamabots, try to overun ANYTHING, they will Be Delt with, Thousands Ok, thats why we have THOUSANDS of Rounds!!! Bring It Lisa!
Shut your Canuck commie-pinko pie-hole you stupid bitch!!! You and your Socialist ilk are the problem!! It’s obvious you have ZERO common sense… so go elsewhere, and leave your BS there!!!
Satan’s son would look like Obama.
Dear God, I have heard of trying to secure the vote before but this takes it to a whole new level.
I cannot believe he is brazen enough to do this. Madness.
I guess he has to win back the hard line Catholic Latino voters he lost when he announced he supported homosexuality.
I thought that fight was about abortion??
He lost the Catholic vote with his health care package forcing the Church, and Church run health plans to pay for birth control services. Do you think hollywood would back him if he made Kosher delis serve pork? Then it would be outrageous! But stepping on Catholic toes and supporting the murder of the unborn is ok.
Or free condoms
When is the chat forum coming?
Iowa, I know I know! I am in the middle of a cross country move right now – in fact I am standing outside carlsbad caverns right now typing this! As soon as I get home I will be working on the forum and it WILL be up by the end of this month!
If anyone has not been there, check out these photo’s
Drive safe, Mac!
Why dont he make it illegal to be American?
Make it illegal to sing the Star Spangled Banner in public?
Make it illegal to be “Made in the USA”?
Make it illegal to open or operate a business in America?
Make it illegal to be a Republican, Independent, Libertarian etc.?
Make it illegal to worship any religion except the state sponsored religion?
Make it illegal to protest in public?
Make it illegal to speak in public, except the party line
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I hope it all ends. Then we’ll restart with a new currency no debts. Need to get rid of congress and have internet voting. It’s the only way for the people to be heard.
It WONT end. When the dollar gets revalued, “they” will wipe THEIR debts out, NOT yours and mine. In the money junkies eyes WE OWE THEM, and since they(the banksters) have total control of the government, they WILL(try)to make us pay.
Example- Say they devalue by 15%, they will ADD that 15% to what you “owe” “them” because you racked that debt up with “old” dollars.
I say F^CK UM!!!
@ buzzsaw: trust me dude, that pile of filth in the White House is doing his level best to push through everything you mentioned and more. The reason its not happening is because there are way more of us than there are of them. I guess thats an unexpected result of abortion on demand: guess whose children are living?
That is cheating, but it doesn’t surprise me. We lose anyway without a good third party leader. I would like to believe that Romney would protect second amendment rights, but I just don’t trust ANYONE that comes from a state that has some of the most suffocating laws on the books that prohibit personal freedoms. I still have this gnawing feeling that all hell is going to break loose before the election. It drives me crazy during the day and night that something is so wrong that it is going to shock everyone. I wish I knew. Does anyone else have an idea what they think is going to happen?
I do think that a major war or syria invasion and small race wars against those for obama and against will happen and it will be reported as tension between the tea party which they will try and lump us with wall street and say laws have to be tougher to stop violence etc bs. Just remember if they ever outlaw something and you know what im talking about, 2nd. Just say you sold them to a gun shop or at a gun show and make sure you honestly bury them in seperate locations and don’t tell a soul! you cant trust anyone except yourself. We love this country and we are not going to let radicals take over this great country into a 3rd world country. For you DHS reading this we are not the terrorists we want out laws to be followed by everyone and your letting this fucking idiot obama do what he wants without a question. Holder is arrogant and needs to be fired. But you continue to monitor us for being peacful and upholding the constitution and we are targeted, I know hundreds of Navy seals and we all talk about if something major like an attack on the people would happen. believe me none of them and many regular troops will not follow the orders of the military to attack its own citizens. this will be the breaking point and the breakup of our military. That is my opinion and i did 6 years in the Navy.
You know… I’d love to put some hateful shit here..but it will just get deleted. All I have to say this this. Start thinking for yourself. Plan well for you and yours. Keep your money in silver…as they will try and steel it all. If the cities erupt one day. Be in a position to defend your family and make them wish they were never born. Better buy guns and ammo for your grand kids. They will be fighting the war.
@yep, I don’t believe Mac deletes anything that doesn’t call for “personal assassination”…and I think WE can all understand “deletion” with respect to that particular commentary.
Time to choose sides and be fully prepared to defend that choice…at any cost. I did not choose my “position”…IT has been FORCED upon ME/YOU/US because no “peaceful” revolution/resistance was provided as an alternative. If you/ANYONE believes differently: illuminate the “peaceful alternative” that still exist.
I intend to leave my children/grandchildren an inheritance of “real choice” beyond this illusion.
This comment could well be interpreted as “revolutionary” and/or “antigovernment”. In both cases, that assumption COULD be accurate. What it means to ME, is all that ultimately matters…to ME!
Clint: I think they would have to have an amnesty anouncement on public tv. Shortly thereafter there would be a run on PVC pipe at home depots around the country. Would be kind of funny if you think about it that way, imagine standing in a checkout line with everyone holding large pieces of pvc, everyone making plumbing excuses (opsec blown).
What I have found to be pretty interesting is that I know alot of former military, and current military although those are getting close to their retirement. The general theme with almost all of them is “Bitterness and Betrayal”. Some have seen this coming long before I did (embarrassed to say that). GI’s are not happy with what both partys have done to them and they are keeping their ears to the ground just as much as everyone else that is nervous.
I think that you are correct that the military would be fragmented but there would be a delay before it happens. Nobody wants to get prosecuted for not following an order until they are sure it is illegal.
your right on that too, there would be a delay to try and punish the ones the don’t follow and make them think for a sec if they don’t follow orders what could happen to their lives for the rest of the life or their families could not see you for a while while your in the brig or something. I agree with you too. I can’t believe we are at this point in our lives where we allowed to many politicians to do this to us. Maybe there were smarter people than us that said if we can cause mass groups of different races this is what we can do to control the population and change things. Mabye this was the grand plan from the beginning. I mean why would they let illegals stay here without being arrested while some cities protect them. That makes no sense. There has to be a bigger reason for all of this. Any thoughts on that from anybody else. I always looked at life like this sometimes, if you take a pitbull and a boxer and a poodle and a german shepard and keep them around each other sooner or later one of the dogs is not going to get along and thats the same as people, we are wild animals and some of us can’t get along with other breeds no matter how much you train them to get along with other races etc. America the melting pot. jesus. not racist but just not happy with the way things are for alot of people. I do care about other people thats why im saying this,.
There will be some crisis, the US .gov will get most military families to live on base “for their own safety” and then use them to coerce soldiers to do what .gov wants. Same playbook as USSR et al.
I like your words, clint, but have to disagree that the military will not act according to their orders. Google “This Is What Democracy Looks Like,” and watch it. At the 1999 WTO protests, the Mayor of Seattle called in the National Guard, and they did not hesitate to fire upon and beat the protesters. Watch it closely, and see how the violence flowed, and from whom it flowed. It is the same almost every time. Your government, and its agents, will not hesitate to re-define their fellow citizens as “terrorists” or “hooligans” or “hippies” or whatever term du jour that will dehumanize (and therefore justify inhumane violence against) those saying what they do not want heard. It is the same in every war (Zips, Gooks, Ragheads…). It is and will continue to be the same here.
I hate to say this Clint, but the reason that foreign troops are training here is because the gov knows that American troops would have a difficult time shooting American citizens, but foreign troops won’t!
Works both ways.
We the people are being set up, anyone against this will be painted as hating children or being raciest. This insidious administration is yet again creating a crisis/ diversion while something else is now being done against us.
What’s the other hand doing?
How about not all the illegals under the age of 30 are Latino??? What about the muslims? Wouldn’t happen to be any radicals under the age of 30 now, would there?
False flag…major city…nuke or bio.
I really hope that nobody here is shocked at any of this. People who have been at this site for more than a couple times should know that if you hold out faith in these politicians you will be dissappointed over and over. They are the ones that have behaved in a consistant manor. It is the voting public that has unrealistic hopes that they will change.
Republicans get pretty upset when I let them know that the same guy Trent Lott who was against the small arms treaty when he was in office is now lobbying in favor of it.
These guys have a lust for power and money. They will do anything. They will/have stomped on our bill of rights, taken liberties, freedoms, and subjected the same people they are supposed to represent to countless hardships.
My question to everyone: Why are we shocked when they just continue behaving in the same manor?
Not one thing they are doing right now should even lift an eyebrow.
your absolutly right. if you read the AP article on drudge it says that this policy “closely mirrors” the immigration plan of rubio. now assuming the rubio gets the VP slot what make people think that this plan wasn’t going to be part of the romney campaign and obama just beat romney to the punch. rep/dem peas in a pod.I’m voting third party i dont care who it is.kinda my little way of sticking it to the man
Here’s what makes people think that this wasn’t Romney’s plan:
1. When asked if he has discussed his proposal with presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney, Rubio said he has not.
2. Romney campaign aides said the candidate was not yet endorsing Rubio’s approach. They also would not say if he would reverse President Barack Obama’s decision to stop deporting some who came to the U.S. as children.
3. Romney pledged to veto the DREAM Act: In December, Mitt Romney promised to veto the DREAM Act if he were elected president. Then during a January GOP debate, Romney called allowing any undocumented workers to gain permanent residency “a mistake.” [December 2011, ABC News]
4. Romney promised to make life so miserable for undocumented immigrants that they would “self-deport.”: At the Florida Republican Debate, Romney said that he would enforce stringent documentation policies that would make it difficult for illegal immigrations to find work, eventually spurring them to “self-deport.” According to Romney, “If people don’t get work here they’re going to self-deport to a place where they can get work.” [January 2012, Huffington Post]
5. Romney consults author of extreme anti-immigrant legislation on immigration issues: Romney consults Kris Kobach, Kansas Secretary of State and author of harsh immigration laws in Arizona, South Carolina, and Alabama, as an advisor. Kobach is a controversial figure who has become the leading spokesman of the hardcore anti-immigration movement. [April 2012, ThinkProgress]
do you really believe what a candidate says during a election?
how’s that hope and change working for ya
Not shocked at all. Matter of fact what surprised me is that he stopped at 800K.
Who needs congress and all their expenses and staff when we have to support this tyrant in chief? Where is the objection to these endless executive orders?
I completely agree. Where is congress in all this? Surely there must be a provision in the constitution, etc for control of a ROGUE president??
And I am just curious, if we say we’ve finally had enough, are we all here ready and willing to pull a repeat of 1776? How much more justification for rebellion do we need…..??????
If everyone is an American, then no one is an American. We have to start from scratch. There is only one way. If it was easy, we would have already done it. Demography is your destiny. If this stands, your seed will be assimilated and your people will go extinct. It’s simple math. It’s not if, but when.
all in the western hemisphere are “Americans”
Nothern America, or Southern America..did you mean to say United States of America? yes, it makes a difference
I agree VRF, it makes a big difference. I do think he meant USA. If so he is right.
If you didn’t know what I was talking about you are already lost.
Cassandra, what exactly do you mean by “your seed” and “your people”? I suspect I grasp your meaning but I’d like to be sure I am absolutely clear before commenting.
I’m talking about white people. I know the readers here are a diverse group, but even non-whites will suffer when the US is completely turned into a violent, socialist, third world cesspool. The agenda is to assimilate white people until they are nearly extinct. Marxism is racism against westerners.
They want to eliminate whites because we will vote majority to keep our guns, gold and freedoms. Mexicans bow down to their govt with little protest or else they would be machine gunned. White America (and lots of other colors) bow down to NO ONE.
Twenty years at the most the US will cease to exist.
We, the unhyphenated Americans of European origin ARE America. We are the posterity of our forefathers, the architects of a God-fearing, liberty-based government. We are the descendants of her statesmen, architects, artisans, poets and war dead. We are the repository of the culture of our Fathers. America is our birthright, which we are free to protect or lose as a community.
I think if a person was brought here as a child, grew up to be a good citizen, perhaps served in the military and has no criminal record, they should be welcome.
What this does is clear the books and allow law enforcement to concentrate on the illegals who do not qualify. You see? Solutions are possible.
Move Maindawg to their barrio. They are adament that they get to keep their turd world culture. Look at any “hispanic” neighborhood. Expel all of them at gunpoint if necessary. Why should USA take all comers?. Let them fix their own shithole countries.
So, what you’re saying is… it’s OK to break the laws of a sovereign nation for “humanitarian” reasons… right? Are you NUTS!?!?!
A nation is NOT a nation without BORDERS, language and culture. Once those are eroded to the cusp of extinction, you have no nation. We are not, as the libtards and “feel-gooders” like you want to believe, all one people! It wasn’t like that from the beginning of time, and it CANNOT be that way now, or ever, if this world is to function as it was purposed to function.
If you want to believe that “It Takes a Village”, then move somewhere that holds to that ideal, and take your socialist ideology with you!!
When a law is broken by anyone (including family members) then they must be held to account. If that “child” had no choice to come here illegally because the parents brought them, I understand. However, once that “child” becomes KNOWLEDGEABLE of the fact that they too are lawbreakers, then it IS their responsibility to act according to the law of the land in which they now reside, even if they don’t believe it to be correct of like it! Period!
I’m hoping it all collapses on this fuck. Crash the dollar. Let the United States fail. That would be funny. The first “black” president and then look at the outcome. No hate, just an observation. I will say this…when the cities erupt and they storm the burbs… We’ll have no worries. The burbs are armed and ready.
Can’t we kick all these fucking people out. We don’t have enough work for our own people.
when xenophobia and racism comes into the conversation, then these preppers are HAPPY AS HECK to welcome the fall of the country.
I am a prepper. I am not like you. I dont want anything to fail. But, I am also not a racist or xenophobe.
No Molly you are simply a moron. Being concerned when hundreds of thousands of illegals are given virtual amnesty is not being a xenophobe. Keep your head stuck up your ass Molly as you don’t use it anyway. Probably improves your looks too.
John W ~ Really? You can’t just rely on a reasonable argument? You have to stoop to junior high school tactics like calling Molly ugly?
You completely discredited yourself as far as I’m concerned, by that stupid little insult. Grow up.
Molly ~ Not all preppers are racist or xenophobic, as I’m sure you know. Sometimes the ignorant people are the loudest.
I don’t consider myself either of those things, but I’m sure less than pleased with this amnesty program. When a country has nearly as many people on food stamps as off of them, is subject to astronomical rates of unemployment and is so far in debt that it isn’t possible to avoid the collapse, to invite in 800,000 new mouths to feed and disperse our few jobs to them doesn’t make a lot of sense.
I do not hate the Mexicans or other immigrants – I emigrated to another country myself when I got married. But there is a proper way to do it and I think that is what has upset everyone. When I relocated, it cost several thousand dollars, I had to fill out hundreds of pages of paperwork and prove that I would not be a burden on the system because of my employable skills and my eductation, etc. I also had to have a waiting period before I was eligible for any type of benefits whatsoever, and I was not allowed to vote because I chose not to become a Canadian citizen.
There is a right way of doing things and a wrong way. A blanket decree with no input from the nation’s representatives is the wrong way.
Goodmorning Daisy. Well said.
Molly: Wow, John W. is in a foul mood. He sounds like the some of the angry rabble that infests these sites. Their secret desire is for our country to fall because they believe that they can then go out and kill those whom they blame for their crappy little lives (minorities). Unlike most of these lazy kids, I worked farm and other manual labor jobs evey summer from age 13 through high school. Went into the military, got a couple of college degrees via the G.I. Bill, got a great job, and retired 3 years ago at age 56. I don’t ever have to work again because I busted my ass but also used my brains and had a plan. Losers always look to blame others for their failures in life. The fact of the matter is is that most of these clowns (ranting racists) are either lazy or stupid. And some unfortunately are both. I prep becasue these types are the greatest danger.
For you to even equate this with xenophobia and racism proves that you haven’t a clue as to the true meaning of either. Do some more research without an agenda-laden mindset, and you will understand.
And Daisy, it surprises me that you jumped on John W. I’ve read a lot of comments from you that were far worse. Making a comment of disagreement is totally understandable, but diving in and protecting someone (which always seems that you do especially when that person is female) is admirable, yet unnecessary. If that person isn’t capable of defending themselves, then maybe they shouldn’t be amongst the ranks of those calling themselves Patriots and preppers. Everyone has the right to say what they want… they just have to remember, they must take responsibility for those words. If they have the audacity to come to a site such as this one, and make liberal sounding, unfounded comments… then they must take the backlash from such a decision.
WTF: Hate to burst your bubble pal but a lot of Americans won’t do the work that Mexicans and other latins will do. I know, I worked every summer doing farm labor starting at age 13 (1966), and yeah, it’s legal in most states at that age. The only white kids were the kids of the owners and operators of the farms. Whites, most blacks, and many americanized Mexicans wouldn’t do the work becasue it was hard: long hours, at least 10-12 a day, six days a week. By the summer of 1970 I was taking home $200 a week. That was good money back then but I had to bust my ass. But please don’t tell me that these folks are taking away good jobs from anyone. Those jobs were there for the asking. I also washed dishes at a restaurant and worked at a gas station while in high school. Not too many whites or blacks there either. Then I went into the military, went to college, got a great job and retired at age 56. The American Dream is out there for anyone willing to put in enough sweat equity.
@Gregory8 say Greg, have you ever seen a show called “Dirty Jobs”? I have, and it looked like there were a TON of white faces on camera. Btw, for the record, I am a white male blue eyed gun owning heterosexual who worked at a behavior house while going to school to get his Masters in Education (I’ve spent the last several years teaching computer science classes). One of my jobs at the behavior house was cleaning poo out of a grown mans trousers, skivvies and butt crack after he messed himself having a grand mal seizure. Say, doesn’t THAT sound like a “job Americans won’t do”? And I am by far not the only person like me.
Seriously, you need to put down the Kool Aid and stop parroting the propaganda
SonOfSam: What koolaid are you talking about? I too am a white male, with blue eyes, I own several guns which I use at a private gun club, and I am Edowment Member (Life +) member of the NRA. I have had to clean feces off of drug packets from many of my prisoners, amongst other distasteful jobs. Now that we are done playing “Who’s got the biggest dick”, I’d like to get to the point of the conversation: that most of the work done by legals and illegals is too hard for most Americans because most folks here are just too soft for the jobs they will do. P.S., I’m also a married heterosexual in case you thought you had me there. And for the rest of you who still don’t understand: most good paying jobs are lost every year to highly educated folks who come to this country on H1B Visas. Look it up and learn what’s really costing us good jobs and stop blaming fruit pickers and dishwashers for our economic problems.
SonOfSam: I find it curious that you need to publicly declare your sexual orientation (heterosexual as you claim). Why, do folks often believe you to be homosexual because of your behavior/mannerisms, or for some other reason? Or is it that you’re a little unsure yourself and therfore need these periodic affirmations?
Oh, by the way, when those illegals get amnesty, they can legaly bring their entire extended familes here legally. All of the elderly and sick will get SSI after a 90 day wait. Food stamps, housing assistance, etc. Get the picture? Suckers. You have to pay for your own demise. It’s like making the family of an executed POW pay for the bullet used to kill him.
People who see the full picture like you do can actually try and stop feeding the government-beast. One big way is to limit taxes you pay to the government. If you are a 2-income family, drop down to 1-income. Think you can’t “afford it”, sell out. Taxes will be much less on 1-income and the one person not working can contribute at home doing tax-free self-reliant jobs. Be debt-free and get yourselves out of the rat race. Sell out and get out: live low. Stop contributing into a retirement program and end those “investments” in others. INVEST IN YOURSELVES! Stop using the banks. End the consumer-driven madness. We did each of these things and have no regrets whatsoever. Who else is up for the challenge? Who else is ready to starve the government-beast?
Already on it Zoltanne, great post, also helps families get back to being families, oops sorry government, I know its a four letter word..
Yes Peteropolis, once we shed ourselves of the burdens of a “job” and all it requires of us, we have energy, time, and creativity to pursue what we want. And when a family member has a problem or needs help, we have the time to pay attention closely to do what we can. Progressives hate strong family units — look how hard they’ve tried to discourage and dismantle them.
Exactly right Zoltanne. Been in the process of de-leveraging and dropping off the grid to the extent possible. One thing people should realize is that, depending on your circumstances, that process can take YEARS. Like the SHTFPlan post before this one said, the first challenge is gaining the recognition that you need to start the process. Once you’ve gained that recognition, then it is time to ACT on it.
During my (ongoing) process, I have had to learn many times about letting go of “stuff.” I was indoctrinated for far too long, and it was initially very tough. But as I’ve gone along, it seems like for every single “thing” I’ve let go of, a new person/skill/gift/concept has come into my life. It has been an incredible and wonderful trade-off.
Nehweh Gahnin, You’re right and the other post that provided the steps would be very helpful to some who need to start but don’t know where or how. It was also good to describe how to approach a lowered lifestyle analytically.
Being self-reliant takes time and energy but most of all, I believe it takes commitment. And like any hobby or passion, one gains skill and knowledge by doing. Those of us who want to not only survive in the coming years, but thrive, must have the determination and the skill set necessary. One day at a time….remember we all crawled before we learned to walk.
I stopped paying federal taxes 3 years ago cause the size of return my wife and i got i figured why lend the gov’t all that money interest free and i’m glad i sopped because we still get 4k back every year. I’m thinking of getting the wife to have max deductions at her work as well for the rest of this year, i don’t want a fvcking IOU from the gov’t for my tax return and i don’t want them to have more of my money if the economy collapses lol. I’m so tight that when i totaled my truck years ago it had a 3/4 full tank of gas in the impound lot and i was most PO’d about that lol
Aaron, you didn’t get the insurance adjuster to add the remainder gas into the payout??!
Your solution is very sound. We went from 2 incomes to one, and we do everything ourselves from food, to livestock, our own medicine, and we pay much, much less in tax. Americans who voted this ass clown in deserve what is coming for them.
GOP4EVER, Good for you! What we grow and create for ourselves is much more rewarding than shopping at some mall where all the stores have the same Made In China or Farmed In Mexico stuff.
And don’t you feel empowered when you are making a tincture or harvesting seeds for your next year’s garden?!
Zoltanne: You are on the money, pardon the pun. People are dropping out like mad, some only part way, and one way they do it is by trading services and other non-cash goods. I’m talking about medical professionals who trade with auto mechanics and hairdressers with mom and pop stores for goods on the shelf. The only thing missing is the cash transactions that normally get reported to the IRS, Social Security, and other life-sucking federal and state agencies. It’s not 2012, it’s more like 1812 on the frontier where two parties come to an agreement and both get what they want. One more way to stop feeding the ‘Beast’.
This is absolutely untrue. I’m married to a foreigner (European), and this is NOT true. Please check your facts before spouting off bullshit that simply spreads misinformation. I’d love nothing more than to let me mother in law (retired) to come and help take care of our daughter, but she can only come for a few months at a time (and she’s European!), believed me, I’ve looking into it. So what you’re saying is patently false.
Yeah, dislike my comment calling out someone spreading misinformation. Awesome. I guess the truth hurts sometimes. We’re talking facts people. Look it up.
The fact that my original response is a “hot debate” tells me a lot about the readership of this blog. Someone says something completely, factually incorrect. Someone else (me) provides a personal example of why that’s the case…..and that itself draws contempt. How is that not sickening to any normal person?
Hats off to you Dan!! All kinds of people prep.
@ Dan —
Sorry to hear about the problem with your in-laws. I think the missing piece here is that Obama and his handlers are working with agenda-driven immigration quotas of which many people are unaware.
Your in-law(s) from Europe WILL be kept out oif Amerika because US immigration policy since 1965 has been weighted heavily in favor of increasing the percentage of Third Worlders in the general population. Only about 10% of US immigration slots are reserved for Whites of ANY kind today. The native born Europeans here (who used to be called simply “Americans”) are actively discriminated against. Europeans from anywhere in the White diaspora are NOT welcome and are considered “undesirable” by anti-White, Amerikan officialdom.
This has been the case since our immigration laws were “reformed” by the Jewish Congressmen Emanuel Cellar and Jewish Senator Jacob Javits in 1965, with Ted Kennedy running interference for them as their front-man. They decided that Amerika would be turned brown and black, so that “Jews could feel safe.” The safer Jews get, however, the less safe the AMERIKANS themselves become.
Obama himself, is the bastard spawn of a Communist mother and the longtime Negro Communist Party (CPUSA) member Frank Marshall Davis, and he is SEETHING with racial hatred for Whites. Here’s the dirty secret:
It’s amazing to me how many White college girls (of both sexes) still support Obama.
Where can I find more information about the quotas of which you speak?
Ahab: Too bad those laws didn’t keep Kissinger and Zibrynski out. Never a cop around when you need one, I guess.
Hi Dan ~
Don’t worry too much about the thumbs down brigade. Sometimes it isn’t what you’ve said on that post, it’s that you ticked a person off in another post, on another topic. It’s often more of a popularity contest than a fair indication of the opinions of others.
I can concur about the difficulty of bringing in relatives – if the entire extended family is coming over, large fees have been paid for each person or it is being done illegally.
@ Daisy —
Thanks for asking your question re. immigration quotas!
1) Prior to 1965, those of European stock were granted preference in US immigration policy. This was changed in 1965 by the institution of a quota system that was/is structured to appear “democratic” and fair, in that it awarded (until 2011) the same percentage of US legal immigrant VISAS to ALL countries (with minor fluctuations).
Since Third Worlders outnumber Whites world wide by a factor of about 7 to 1, and taking into consideration such programs as the various refugee resettlement initiatives which involve lands almost exclusively outside the White world, the net practical effect of US immigration law has been to ensure a 90% non-white immigrant flow into the US. It’s a matter of simple mathematics, like South Africa’s supposed democracy based on one man, one vote, which ensures that Whites there have no voice in the running of the country. Here’s a discussion of the quota system n detail:
2) In 2011, they moved to lift quotas on the number of visas that can be awarded to any one country, but it’s not what it appears to be at first glance. This bill allows them to award Visas to target countries India and China (or African countries, or Mexico if the “need” arises) in unrestricted quantities. Here’s an article on that and take note the inevitable involvement of the gun-grabbing anti-White Jewish racist/supremacist and Israeli dual-citizen Sen. Charles Schumer in this latest atrocity against the historic American nation:
3) Here’s a basic article on the Immigration Reform Act of 1965. Note the over-loud assurances made at the time that the act would not upset the nation’s ethnic balance (something it was actually DESIGNED to do):
4) Here is an article with some great graphs statistical and historical info to show how the deliberate blackening and browning of Amerika has progressed:
5) Finally, by way of contrast, here’s something from a few years back indicative of how IRISH immigrants are treated by our kosher watchdogs, who are on permanent guard to protect “The Homeland” from any incipient European influx. Yes, there’s certainly no red carpet being rolled out for Paddys in diverse Amurika:
Amerikan immigration policy of the last 50 years has been created and managed by anti-White RACISTS with a historical grudge so deep, and a HATRED so vast and TOTAL in its scope, that it boggles the mind. Implemented anywhere else (and BY anyone else), it meets all the criteria of GENOCIDE.
I’m sure they consider it our “just” punishment for the Holocaust.
Thank you, Ahab – very enlightening reading material to mull over!
Dan, the reason your mother in law can only come a few months at a time is Because she is European. If she were a Mexican illegal alien, she would be allowed to stay, she would get free everything, pandered to by dems, and yes, family would be allowed to come, too. Dems don’t care about trying to buy your vote by letting your mom stay, because you are (probably) white, northern European descent, WASP whitey who came and stole the land from the Mexicans, plus, you “da man,” and as such deserve no additional help at all.
Dan get a clue. White Europeans are not wanted. Live in a third world immigrant area like So.Calif. and see how things really work. Even North Carolina looks like Mexico now. Who cares since we have zero unemployment right Dan?
Dan: They can’t help themselves; they have made up their minds so don’t try and confuse them with facts. You just need to consider the source of this abuse. These are the same folks who refere to the 5th grade as their ‘senior year’. In my profession, I am retired now, I had to study some Immigration Law, and you are absolutlety correct in what you say. We have some intelligent folks on this site, but they get lost in the whirlwind of abuse from the inbred clowns with 2-digit I.Q.s who spout unsupported crap all day long. Most of these cretins haven’t read a book in years, if ever, let alone the laws on Immigration like I have had to do. The only thing they’ll read is some B.S. from a paranoid psychotic ranting on his/her blog, never citing a reliable/credible sorce, if at all. Then these bafoons get on this site and parrot what they just read from some lunatic whom they happen to agree with. Most of them have never had an original thought in their pathetic little lives, so they leave it up to others to tell what to think, even if it’s a madman. So Dan, never mind the riffraff, they’re harmless, for now.
I sometimes help people immigrate legally. When people become citizens they have to agree that they will not ask for any government assistance for ten to twenty years, depending on the situation. They have to pay between $5000 and $20,000 in restitution to Homeland Security for any time they spent in the US illegally.
One of the effects of illegal immigrants becoming legal citizens will be to make them no longer eligible for public assistance. They will need to work and pay social security without being able to receive any benefits for a long period of time. They will no longer be eligible for special consideration when they get medical care and they will not be eligible for welfare or food stamps in many locations. (This varies based on the laws in different states.)
If 800,000 people are all going through the process of becoming legal they will be sending Homeland Security an estimated 800,000 x $10,000 apiece. Plus any family members that they turn around and bring into the US. Homeland Security stands to make at least $8,000,000,000 off of this process. This doesn’t include the massive amounts of money going to immigration lawyers and charities that work with immigrants.
This is a bigger windfall than many people realize.
I say BS. If they are elderly or somehow considered disabled they get SSI and many other free things. Spread your crap elsewhere. People around here bring in their elderly parents get them on SSI and then collect the SSI as rent from their parents. The corruption is widespread not to mention the multiple identities that are commonly used.
Where do you get your information? Do you have direct experience with this? Maybe your region is different but the people I have worked with, who are here LEGALLY are NOT eligible for SSI.
They had to give up the ability to qualify to become a citizen. They had to prove they could support themselves and if they did not have a steady income, like an elderly person, they had to have a sponsor who would be responsible for them, if they could not take care of themselves. I know this from direct experience in working with people who come here legally. Where does your information come from?
Note that I originally mentioned that some states may vary. I have no idea what California does. Maybe you live in a state that chooses to be more liberal. But I can tell you how it is here in the MidWest. None of the illegal immigrants here qualify for SSI and none of the legal immigrants are allowed to get SSI. (Although a few exceptions sneak in by providing false identification or other means- and this was still a very small number)
SSI is full of Americans who want to sponge off the government and a few good people who are down on their luck. I know this from direct experience too. I worked for several years at the local county health department and I saw hundreds of people on Medicaid. The illegal immigrants seldom came in but when they did, they paid cash.
There is also this idea that all the immigrants are Latino. Of the LEGAL immigrants, only about 30% are from Mexico and around 60% are from Spanish speaking countries. That leaves a huge 40% from other countries.
Finally, my main point is the amount of money involved in this. Everyone seems to be ignoring the amount of money this will generate for Homeland Security. Money that can be diverted to other surveillance of civilians. It will also generate huge amounts of money from groups that influence the political process- lawyers and large charities that work with immigrants. The impact extends beyond Latino communities- it will have an impact on many ethnic communities here in the US. If people only think “illegal Mexican aliens”, they will miss a large portion of other groups that will be taking advantage of this.
La Raza says that 90% of Mexicans in the US get WIC. That is a federal welfare program. There is virtually no oversite of these programs. The Mexican community has taxpayer funded orgs. working daily to sign their people up for welfare programs, and for voting, even if they are illegal. It’s illegal in Illinois to ask for proof of citzenship when they register to vote. Sanctuary cities.
Well said Cassandra, and impossible to debate from an intellectual viewpoint. If anything, you have just scratched the surface of this “titanic/USA” sinking iceberg. This is Obimbo’s “fail safe” should the “potential election” proceed. Personally, I don’t believe ‘he’ will ultimately need it…a much worse REALITY is “off-the-drawing-board” and already waiting in place. ‘He’ believes ‘he’ is “chosen”.
WE that KNOW differently…have very little time left to “address” ‘his’ “PSYCHOSIS”. And I don’t mean to imply “electing” Mittens Obamney.
spot on. One of the first things I said to the wife when I called her after hearing the broadcast over the radio.
Why the shock and surprise? This has not only been talked and written about, but planned for. And don’t forget, this Dictatorial decree also sits well with LaRaza and the other far-left pro-illegal organizations. Up until now, they’ve not been very happy with their Dark Lord. So he just decreed himself some more votes. (As an aside, is this a clue that he needs to do more to win than cheat, Chicago-mobster style?)
As Mac pointed out, all that’s required to vote is Proof of Residency which is the same “proof” that is necessary for any and all government aid — ALL government aid.
Article 2 Section 4 – U.S. Constitution:
“The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.”
Well, folks – if this move isn’t in direct conflict with that noble piece of parchment, I don’t know what is.
It’s time for this particular “Constitutional Scholar”, and all the rest of his traitorous administration to go. And the good part is that he sure as all can’t plead ‘ignorance of the law’!! Seriously. I am only asking that the law be enforced.
But….. is there any ‘law’ any more?
No law, no more.
The law is what those with the biggest gang and the most power say it is.
You would think you would like a constitutional scholar…hmmm…right….only when convenient to your ideology.
In the days of the mad king ,in the end, he was stabbed in the back by his own member of the royal guard, the kingslayer …and his reign was over……God I love Game of Thrones, if only we the people gave 2 sh its and marched …
Hi Big E – Robb didn’t march until they beheaded his father. I hate to say it but something like that will need to happen before the American people wake up and start to fight for what is important.
Can we vote on who gets beheaded??? I’ve got a few ideas on that one.
And Congress is not saying a word even though the Constitution grants them the authority over immigrants.
How is it possible that he can do this?
This man is oh-so scary. He would become a dictator if he could get away with it.
“He would become a dictator if he could get away with it.”
Give it time…unfortunately, in the next four years we will see it happen, provided that there is an election. If not, we will see it happen in the early fall with some type of national emergency which will allow him to flex his powers with the new acts put into place to clamp down on the whole country.
Because most of them wish they could do it. They all think they will be getting votes. Fools.
Everytime I go by the Social Security office or welfare office there are cars with BC plates meaning Baja calif. which for you geography challenged is in Mexico or as they refer to it Baja calif. del Norte. They still consider Calif. and other border states to be theirs. People better wake up as demographics is destiny and we are losing big time. Attend a graduation in a border state and you will know what I mean. Oh yes so as not to be called a racist everyone of these immigrants is pure as driven snow with qualities that we all wish Americans had.
Wait. So you’re saying that YOU visit the SS office and Welfare office frequently? Why is that? Not sayin’, just sayin’!
That’s not what he’s saying at all, dumbass. He said he goes by the offices and sees the plates on the cars. Mac, any way you can install a “smack upside the head” button on this?
That dirty filthy [email protected] How can this pass without legislation??
Hey, the Queen of England won’t even drink to this fucks toast. I think we’re all had enough of this guy. I don’t think he will win again. I just hope the black now get that big chip off their shoulder. So funny…when a black calls me a racist. I just smile at them like the queen would.
yeah, Obama is the evil dark lord because he decided to give amnesty (for whatever reason) to people who come to the U.S. willing to do the work that no American is willing to do? You think if native born Americans were willing to cut lawns for peanuts and wash dishes all hours of the night that immigrants would have a reason to come? No, they wouldn’t. But Americans are lazy and many of the unemployed are “above” the types of jobs that immigrants readily embrace. I say let em come until the native born sack up and get back the worth ethic of of their Irish/Italian/German/etc. IMMIGRANT forefathers.
be more specific
You want names and phone numbers or what?
I saw your post about the definition of American, and I don’t buy it. Nobody [in popular usage] understands “American” to mean anything other than a U.S. citizen.
well than, those in “popular” usage better wake up
and just because “They” dont understand it ..obviously doesnt make them educated..
the western Hemisphere is the “Americans”..if you are speaking of The United States of America..than you probably should be specific..especially when it comes to immigration..or predudices.
Im a US citizen..are you?
are you one of those types that calls our form of government a democracy?
you’d be wrong again..its a Republic
and I dont have the time to educate you in why that is, and why its important.
so you have your work cut out for yourself to figure out
yes..words do have meanings..and they dam sure make a difference
again, this is just ridiculous semantics.
Yes, I’m a U.S. citizen. I live abroad and have lived in 9 U.S. sates in my lifetime. Nowhere have I met anyone in the U.S. or abroad, who required clarification when I’ve used the term “American”. Are you honestly telling me that if someone says they are a “proud American,” you’d question whether they might be talking about being a proud Brazilian simply because Brazil lies within the Americas?
Call it what you want ,semantics are important..
and the United States of America should be important enough for you to use it when you speak of your own home country.
there is enough play on words in our government..WE the People dont have to play along
vrf, you are a very strange man.
Lazy? A little projection on your part eh Dan?
illegals go home!
You wanna see a collapse? Round up ALL the illegal immigrants and see how much work gets done and how many services get performed. It’s not possible people, wake up. 100% of you are served in some way by illegals filling jobs that Americans WILL not take on a daily basis….whether it’s getting a burger at a local restaurant or buying inexpensive produce at the store. Illegals had a a part in it.
Please, someone speak up here and explain to me how I’m wrong.
I don’t want to get into an argument about this because in certain aspects you are right and in others I would dissagree.
I agree that illegals fill a niche in low wage labor pool that most of us use daily.
But to say that commerce would collapse is something a bit far. There are plenty of places in this country that do not have illegal populations that seem to fill jobs just fine. Go to northern WI and see who cleans your hotel room, serves you a burger. My mother worked as a hotel maid and she is a legal resident. Go to places in the dakotas, Upper michigan, places that have weather inhospitable towards most illegals, they still have a tourist industry, small scare manufacturing, and service industry.
Republicans want the cheap labor, dems want the votes, but both are using illegals to get want they want. Jobs could be filled by all people but the huge corporations would take a hit on their bottom line.
If you turn a 12 year old kid away but hire a mexican to mow your lawn. You then are the problem and have no room to complain.
I actually lived in both Wisconsin and Minnesota for quite a few years, and to some extent you’re right….BUT, how-about the grapes from California you buy in the grocery store in Wisconsin? Who picked those? See where I’m going?
It’s perhaps hyperbole to say that commerce would be collapse, but I do think that illegals are so thoroughly woven into the [major] commercial centers throughout our country, again, mostly in service/agricultural roles, that deporting more than a few token immigrants is impossible.
I don’t think we have to worry about amnesty being given to the types of people who would fly planes into buildings. I think we’re typically talking about Hispanics, who on average, are more religious, have lower divorce rates, and are more family oriented that the modern American family. I’m not hispanic myself, but every single experience I’ve had with hispanic immigrants has convinced me of this. They are the LAST group of people we need to worry about. Now do they as a group have some problems? Sure. There are Mexican gangs, and obviously there is a gigantic drug issue. However, those again, are not the folks we’re talking about. We’re talking about the people who are coming here in the same tradition as our forefathers leaving Europe to start a better life for themselves the hard way.
Dan: You are right about large industry feeding off of mexican labor. Think about who works at meat packing houses when you go to wal mart to buy your hamburger next time. Those places send recruiters straight to mexico city.
Good and bad comes in all colors. I know mostly country people, and of all colors. I only wish I could rope as well as a black cowboy down the road. I wish I could start colts as well as both an indian and a mexican I know.
I have a hard time disliking anyone that comes to this country looking for work to get themselves ahead. That is what all of our relatives did. What do you think indians thought of that?
I do take issue with people that come here or live here that just want a free handout. I could care less what their color is.
the problem is see with ging illegals amnesty is once thier no longer”illegal” thier not going to work for peanuts anymore.whats going to happen then? are we going to find a country thats even more impoverished and bring them here so some of thease large companies can find cheap labor?
and as far as americans not willing to do the work i totally disagree,i worked contruction and was drove out by cheap mexican labor and i was willing to do the work. and i have friends that are in landscaping and its the same story, the problem with cheap labor is that the end price of whatever the service is isnt really any cheaper but the compaies just make more profit.
Marxism is not just an ideology, it’s also a disease. A form of self-destructive insanity.
Dan, it’s not about rounding up ALL the illegal aliens and repatriating them as Greek officials recently announced plans to do. It’s about allowing unknown individuals who harbor strenuously and vocally anti-American sentiments to not only stay here, but to create an atmosphere to allow more people who share this mindset to enter the U.S. freely.
That is what is so dangerous about this insane plan. We didn’t learn a G’damned thing from 9/11. The next successful major attack on U.S. soil will probably eclipse 9/11 in scope and Obama has just added a huge link in the chain of events that may lead up to such an attack. All for the sake of a few extra votes.
Not to mention, this is an issue that must pass Congressional review. The Legislative and Judicial branches of government cannot allow the Executive branch to make such sweeping grandiose unilateral decisions that will affect not only the lives of every single American, but national security as well. If that is allowed to happen, then we officially no longer have a Republic, we are now subjects under an autocracy. So call it what it is.
I am a business owner (I rehab houses for long term rental). My hispanic workers (maybe illegal, I didnt check) are FANTASTIC! And, I pass up many black and white contractors because of that skill. They have good mentoring skills, so the craft is passed on regularly. it WILL make a difference if I did not have access to that labor pool. Not because I will pay less (because they know their skill nowadays), but because I lose good talent. Any business owner in here will tell you, good labor is HARD to find.
The Legislative / Judicial branches allowed the confiscation of personal wealth with gold confiscation by executive Order. You give us your gold and we will give you paper in return. It you do not comply we can put you in prison for 10 years and use lethal force to obtain compliance if you resist.
This is relatively “small potatoes” compared to that.
I will give it a shot, My wife works home health, and taco bell right now while she gets her rn degree. She is a critical care paramedic and instructor coodinator all with licences but can find no work. We go to our local farmers markets and non, zero of the vendors or the produce they sell was ever touched by an illegal. You want to know where a lot of illegals work? the big industrial farms and processor’s. Like Tyson.There are literally thousands of students here that can not find a summer job because they are stolen by illegals. When our economy was going great maybe it was the case that illegals would do work that they couldn’t get anyone else to do but not anymore. People line up 100 deep around here for any job including fast food.
Your wife’s work ethic is commendable.
What you’re describing with respect to the farmer’s market scene is common. I have shopped on a regular basis from family owned farmer’s markets. However, this is a tiny, tiny percentage of the national diet. As you point out, most of our food comes from huge corporations, and they happily employ immigrants because they are the only ones willing to do the shitty work for low pay. Furthermore, this is enabled because many Americans shop based ONLY on price (some out of choice, some because they are poor). This is a problem which drives both business abroad to Asia to produce things there cheaply, and domestic service/agricultural businesses to find the absolute cheapest labor possible (usually illegal). My point here is that this is a problem of scale. So while people like you and me might choose to shop from family owned small farms when possible, and people like your wife are willing to bust their ass working part time, I don’t think this is normal. Certainly not with respect to the food industry.
I think this more of a result of globalization. In order to compete globally,developed countries will have to lower the cost of a “unit of labor”. We see this happening around the world with emerging economy workers living standards going up and ours going down to even it out.This is one of the reasons we are headed into a deeper depression. I do not believe it is caused by “lazy Americans”. It is according to a global elite plan.It is an exclusive club and you don’t belong to it.Better learn to be more self-sufficient and get used to it.
There should be one less like for your post accidentally hit dislike sorry
your exactly right and i cant believe your getting thumbs down for your comment.
Dan, do we need 800,000 more of them?
@ Dan — “100% of you are served in some way by illegals filling jobs that Americans WILL not take on a daily basis….whether it’s getting a burger at a local restaurant or buying inexpensive produce at the store. Illegals had a a part in it.”
Dan, you sound like a Canadian. Your assertion above assumes that everyone in this country lives the suburban McMansion-with-Landscaping-lifestyle, regularly visits Fast “Food” joints for drive-through snacks laced with formaldehyde and High Fructose Corn Syrup, and eats only out-of-season GMO Factory Foods wastefully trucked across the country using imported fuels. None of these imputations fit ME at all, or many of the people here.
Assuming that all Amerikans live their lives according to Consumer Market Research data is not only parochial in the extreme, but also sinister, in its imputation of legitimacy to the unhealthy and empty lifestyle chosen for us by our “betters.” Man does not live by crap food alone.
Though your “market research” economic model is off where I am concerned, what does fit me is the experience of returning to my birthplace in a very large Amerikan city as an alien who does not speak the language (now prevalent) there enough to ask why EVERY trace of my family’s history in that locale has been expunged without a trace, as if it had never been.
Foreign speech, foreign music, foreign spirituality and a foreign SOUL (from a materialist POV, SOUL does not matter) are just that — FOREIGN. I’m not putting down the Hispanics (who you seem to hold in high regard), but I do reserve the right to consider foreigners FOREIGN, especially those who are foreign to ME. Anything else is cultural and spiritual AIDS.
Here’s a tip for you: If you and your European wife go into the wrong neighborhoods in most Amerikan cities, you may be automatically regarded as “gringos” or “honkies” (a.k.a. White Amerikans) by the locals and viciously attacked, without regard for your obvious “solidarity” with Third World immigrants. Having spent my formative years as part of a shrinking White minority in a city that was being “changed” as a result of DELIBERATE Amerikan government policy, I know whereof I speak.
BTW….should you ever desire (now defunct) copies of “the Resistor” (the political-warfare journal of the Special Forces Underground)…..
……..ping the matriarch of these boards!!!
I’ll forward them to you!!!
My only stipulation is,….you read them & pass onto high IQ/like minded folks!!!
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Only 1 in 3 agricultural workers in this country are illegals. We don’t need them to harvest crops, we have enough here already. The illegals are displacing many legal farm workers at lower pay and driving them into construction, landscaping, maintenance, and other trades, also at lower pay. Wages for all blue-collar jobs are either down or under pressure.
We’re already paying $3 a head for lettuce, once you add the costs of welfare, courts, police, bi-lingual teachers, school levies, all of it, to provide goods and services, and deal with the illegal population.
There are no positive aspects of illegal immigration. None. Platitudes and cliches about ‘jobs we won’t do’ are false, and an insult to your own intelligence. Our national birthright is being stolen from us by politicians in exchange for political power in their own self-interest, and it’s time for all Americans to take a good look at the harm caused by illegal immigrants and demand it stop. If you aren’t willing to do so, for whatever misguided reasons you have, then just shut up and let others do it for you. When you are wrong, keep quiet about it.
The same arguments were made about slavery. The economy has been brought down and wages driven lower by illegal labor. ( I am in construction. I KNOW what I am talking about) I have subs that have no choice but to go this route to compete. And, ironicly, the laborors are great people. I like them. They just want a better life. But because our Government won’t “fix” this problem, they are being used as cheap labor and political pawns.
I do not dislike them, or resent or hate them.
Some risked their lives(literally) to come here, leaving their families behind, to work. Most have values we would admire.
But it doesn’t negate the fact that this has screwed up the labor dynamics of this country. Try running a labor intensive business on the “up and up” and still compete. You can’t do it.
And the messed up situation does not give the Com. in Chief the right to break the law! Fix the problem legally!
I don’t care if they want a better life. I object to them obtaining it by ruining mine. Let them fix their own country.
You are obviously a open borders shill. All those jobs got done before we were over run with the third world. Quit your lying.
Goodbye then Wally, doubting your family was here 500 yrs ago
Stupid remark from peteropolis
Can’t speak for Wally, but if anyone tries to remove my family (which was NOT here five hundred years ago) from this land by force, or to force them to submit to a foreign people’s language, customs and laws, they will cease to be feel any pain.
Incidentally, I doubt that connoisseurs of Halal meats and female genital mutilation were present to any great degree in, say, the British Isles, five hundred years ago. Not even FIFTY YEARS ago, I wager.
Economic recovery: you don’t suppose the president is going to make them pay back taxes to help pay for all those services they received, do you? I don’t mind good people staying, as long as they’re paying and obeying.
MiVidaLoca–You are so correct, however, I feel the ptb know this and we have become the frogs in boiling water. They will make sure that event does not take place so it would take a major miracle for us to march. Only the complete collapse of current economy will usher this along…luckily gov’t can’t control it at this point
obama is an asshole. simple…….
I would like to know who gives you thumbs down or gave you the thumbs down for saying obama is an asshole, you couldn’t be more correct. The part that set me off was if we didn’t buy health insurance you’d pay a fee, then nex time that fee would triple and so on. Then they can charge or take whatever they wanted and would have total control. If people can’t see that then you have no business being here reading these articles, because you can’t take care of yourself without government and your the problem.
clint, they must be assholes too 🙂
Yes, they are assholes, and as such, do not want the name asshole brought down to a lower level by being associated with obama.
If it makes you feel better to put others down to feel smarter about yourself.
Filthy treasonous P.O.S. Barry is lower than bile.
Bush was no better on the border. He did however use the process and he was turned down. That is the issue here with what Obama did by the way he decreed it. I know a couple of kids who fit this category and I am quite pleased to have them as citizens or whatever the term of the day is. However who is going to pay for all the costs associated with this? It’s the way Zero did it like the health care bill which was rammed down our throats.
Actually Bush WAS better, but by only a little. He tried to ram amnesty down our throats in 2007. We voiced a very loud NO and miracle of miracles, he actually listened to us, went back to the good ole boys and told them we didn’t want it.
I know many here blame Obama and the democrats 100% for where the US is today, but its bulding for at least 40 years. Both parties have allowed ILLEGAL immigration to continue on and it has changed the US.
While the financial problems may take the US down for a few years, this has changed the US permanently. It’s just different from the days of your father or grandfather and it’s not coming back. I’m prediciting the US goes the way on England, still powerful in irs region and economically; but being able to shape the world days are over and thats going to make life a lot tougher for people ruled by tyrannies.
we are Citizens of the United States of America..were not called just “Americans” because if that was the case all those from North america..(canada and the US of A..also south america (all those countries including mexico..is south america)..they are all “Americans” too
be specific..we are Americans from the United States of America.
not just Americans.
Now that I’ve made myself clear..the current POTUS is doing nothing but looking for votes…and why is this? yeah,, why is this? when no ones real vote matters..its already been decided..we just havent been told yet.
will you be ready? will you fight?
will you allow more of your citizens rights to be infringed upon? if so..than are you really an “American” from the US of A? or are you a sucker?
vrf.. enough already dude!ok its americans from the u nited states of america and americans from mexico? S T F U!
this was posted first..check the time stamp.
and again since this is still a free country and I have my 1st amendment right..you STFU!
come and shut me up, ..hahahhahaha
The Positives of Obama.
1-He has done more for the Second Amendment than anyone since the Redcoats attempt at Lexington and Concord. For Texas gun rights since Santa Anna. 2nd Amendment sales are through the roof thanks to this man. In that regard I nominate him 2nd Amendment Salesman of the Century!
2-He has exposed the NWO UN agenda more clearly to more Americans then any other President ever. He continues to this day exposing more of the enemies of the Constitutional Republic with no sign of slowing.
3-The full apocalypse of what has been set in motion is still to be seen and appreciated. 923 Executive orders and they keep rolling them out on us. Better learn what evil is because time is very, very short.
If you can justify the lesser of two evils, maybe Obama wasn’t enough of a lesson. You need three more years of the lesser evil to come to the conclusion that, hey! This one’s a liar too!
The Lord is Righteous.
Standing by in Texas.
Love it JCSG!
keep sucking the teet of this government, and soon you will own nothing
Federal Government Consummates Theft of “Camp Zoe” in Missouri
Some abbreviations to go with all the alphabet soup involved with that: WTF and OMG.
Just in case you think this was something new ‘dreamed’ up by Obama administration. What’s old is new again.
Some of mexico’s laws-
Mexico has a single, streamlined law that ensures that foreign visitors and immigrants are:
* in the country legally;
* have the means to sustain themselves economically;
* not destined to be burdens on society;
* of economic and social benefit to society;
* of good character and have no criminal records; and
* contributors to the general well-being of the nation.
The law also ensures that:
* immigration authorities have a record of each foreign visitor;
* foreign visitors do not violate their visa status;
* foreign visitors are banned from interfering in the country’s internal politics;
* foreign visitors who enter under false pretenses are imprisoned or deported;
* foreign visitors violating the terms of their entry are imprisoned or deported;
* those who aid in illegal immigration will be sent to prison.
Who could disagree with such a law? It makes perfect sense. The Mexican constitution strictly defines the rights of citizens — and the denial of many fundamental rights to non-citizens, illegal and illegal. Under the constitution, the Ley General de Población, or General Law on Population, spells out specifically the country’s immigration policy.
It is an interesting law — and one that should cause us all to ask, Why is our great southern neighbor pushing us to water down our own immigration laws and policies, when its own immigration restrictions are the toughest on the continent? If a felony is a crime punishable by more than one year in prison, then Mexican law makes it a felony to be an illegal alien in Mexico.
If the United States adopted such statutes, Mexico no doubt would denounce it as a manifestation of American racism and bigotry.
We looked at the immigration provisions of the Mexican constitution. Now let’s look at Mexico’s main immigration law.
Mexico welcomes only foreigners who will be useful to Mexican society:
* Foreigners are admitted into Mexico “according to their possibilities of contributing to national progress.” (Article 32)
* Immigration officials must “ensure” that “immigrants will be useful elements for the country and that they have the necessary funds for their sustenance” and for their dependents. (Article 34)
* Foreigners may be barred from the country if their presence upsets “the equilibrium of the national demographics,” when foreigners are deemed detrimental to “economic or national interests,” when they do not behave like good citizens in their own country, when they have broken Mexican laws, and when “they are not found to be physically or mentally healthy.” (Article 37)
* The Secretary of Governance may “suspend or prohibit the admission of foreigners when he determines it to be in the national interest.” (Article 38)
Mexican authorities must keep track of every single person in the country:
* Federal, local and municipal police must cooperate with federal immigration authorities upon request, i.e., to assist in the arrests of illegal immigrants. (Article 73)
* A National Population Registry keeps track of “every single individual who comprises the population of the country,” and verifies each individual’s identity. (Articles 85 and 86)
* A national Catalog of Foreigners tracks foreign tourists and immigrants (Article 87), and assigns each individual with a unique tracking number (Article 91).
Foreigners with fake papers, or who enter the country under false pretenses, may be imprisoned:
* Foreigners with fake immigration papers may be fined or imprisoned. (Article 116)
* Foreigners who sign government documents “with a signature that is false or different from that which he normally uses” are subject to fine and imprisonment. (Article 116)
Foreigners who fail to obey the rules will be fined, deported, and/or imprisoned as felons:
* Foreigners who fail to obey a deportation order are to be punished. (Article 117)
* Foreigners who are deported from Mexico and attempt to re-enter the country without authorization can be imprisoned for up to 10 years. (Article 118)
* Foreigners who violate the terms of their visa may be sentenced to up to six years in prison (Articles 119, 120 and 121). Foreigners who misrepresent the terms of their visa while in Mexico — such as working with out a permit — can also be imprisoned.
Under Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony. The General Law on Population says,
* “A penalty of up to two years in prison and a fine of three hundred to five thousand pesos will be imposed on the foreigner who enters the country illegally.” (Article 123)
* Foreigners with legal immigration problems may be deported from Mexico instead of being imprisoned. (Article 125)
* Foreigners who “attempt against national sovereignty or security” will be deported. (Article 126)
Mexicans who help illegal aliens enter the country are themselves considered criminals under the law:
* A Mexican who marries a foreigner with the sole objective of helping the foreigner live in the country is subject to up to five years in prison. (Article 127)
* Shipping and airline companies that bring undocumented foreigners into Mexico will be fined. (Article 132
I cut and pasted above. It is correct.
WE(they) ARE DESTROYING USA, BY DESTROYING OUR CULTURE, by watering it down. The same is happening to europe.
WHO would want this great christian(gentile filled) country destroyed?
A-those damn arabs
Gave you a thumbs up on accident Kevin, A and D have nothing to do with it, there are some that claim to be A and D that are helping the fall along, but they truly are not A and D. I’ll prescribe that you read undilluted content more.
The content I read is fine.
You know that America is being destroyed by enemies of the contstitution.
Why attack me for YOUR beliefs?
I did not say WHO is, but you are saying who isn’t.
Then you attack. HMMM?
TELL me WHY you believe its not A or D.
Look in the mirror. Obviously it is a national pastime and goal to destroy ourselves on behalf of some ill defined good deed or feel good attitude. A nation of people with no core beliefs is simply a mob.
Reciprocity??? How about it Mehico?
What a fricken joke! This is n nothing more than a ploy for votes…I see this as fraudulent and criminal!
As the great downward mobility accelerates the bottom rungs on the ladder just got filled up. Many better find a way to at least stay in the lower middle class because the seats of the working poor have just been taken.
Well, that’s 800,000 more street corners and parks covered by these people selling drugs and their virgin mothers. Obama is a commie POS!
Immigration is good, ONLY when we just let the best and brightest in.
Top 10 companies(and amount of employees) founded by immigrants, or sons of immigrants.
International Business Machines 436,000
United Parcel Service 400,000
General Electric 300,000
Bank of America Corp. 288,000
Home Depot 255,000
BUT when we let in all the scum of the earth/every swinging dick, what do we get?
overcrowded schools/crappy education for our children
traitors in local governments
out of control drug issues
police departments overwhelmed by crime/gangs
and on, and on, and on.
I know, I am a racist, because I love my country, and want immigration laws like mexico has.
My grandparents, great aunts and uncles we’re not educated but very hard working. Of course there were jobs to fill and DuPont hired several hundred from the village in Italy my grandparents legally immigrated from in 1920. When the labor market in the US tightened the door closed in the later 1920s. Conversely now the market is saturated with excess labor in the US and the door is opened wider for even more labor.
This policy is a win win for business because it suppresses the cost of labor and the Democrats get more of an underclass as future voters. Don’t expect anything more than rhetoric in opposing this from the neo cons and no opposition from the Democrats.
Yep kev, its a win/win for them. The lose/lose part for us is the part that sucks.
I have family who came the same way(not educated,hard workin) They learned english, and became americans.
They were more likely to get a bullet from a 45/70 then food stamps,free health care, and a job and were decimated fighting on the side of states rights during the civil war.
If things continue how they are, I fear I will fight for states rights also. In 2 hundred years they can call me a racist.
I’m drawling a blank trying to think back at anything done by government that was a win for the common American and I’m in my mid 50s. Maybe the IRA/401K but even with that you had better have been sharp, intuitive and a bit lucky.
Money isnt everything, the ones who have a very blimished (blimished is putting it nicely, and this is obviously my opinion, but I believe their products, ethics and history are disgusting and not of “American” quality
These companys could’ve done much much better if the bottom line was their employees and customers. They kind of remind me of the “president”
Yeah, I know, and I agree. Those examples(mcy d’s,citigroup,boa, and home depot) where more of a big picture statement. Tesla, einstein, and people like that would have been better examples then those.
GE USED to be. Now they are multi-national,fascist, no tax payin bitchez.
My opinion is we cant feed / cloth / employ
the people we got now.
We need to spade and neuter the population just about
till we get some god damn sanity in this economy again.
WAKE UP people it is all over. The f’n ballot box DOSEN’T work.So what are to do- RUCK UP boy’s and girl’s it is time to take it back now not latter. Enough is Enough.
OKBARRY BOY, THANKS FOR PUTTING 800000 USA CITIZENS LOOKING FOR A JOB WHO HAVE NONE CAUSE OF YOUR FUCKED UP SOCIALIST POLICIES, ON ANOHER WAITING LIST, ALL FOR A FUCKIN VOTE. YOU THINK YOUR A DICTATOR, BUT BELIEVE ME, THE PEOPLE HAVE WAKEN UP, YOU WILL LOSE IN NOVEMBER, GOD HELP US ALL IF YOU DONT
yeah, as if mittens is any better
I dream of the type of immigration policymexico has…and I am not racist. I
I just want British people to have first call on the jobs that are available, and if any are left over, fine, anybody that wants them can have them.
I want British people to have the decent homes that are currently given to foreign nationals.
I want British kids not to be forced to eat ritually slaughtered meat at school because a Muslim attends that school
I want my British Christian children to be in the majority in their own country
I want foreign nationals to live by the same rules and laws that I have to
I want my government to listen to their countrymen.
NOTE…swap British with American as required
Burt, I am surprised, this might actually be the first of your posts I disagree with, its a healthy disagreement though.Your still my favorite on here. Exactly what makes “your” “country” yours, or anyone elses for that matter, and policys only produce one thing, which is what were complaining about right now. Also, the ritually slaughtered meat will be of much higher quality than what they’d like to serve your kids.
Mine? Okay, let’s see, maybe I have put it badly. I, by birth am a citizen of the UK, I have worked here all of my life, paid my dues as required etc. just like millions of others.
I feel strongly that in return, me, and those like me have a right to expect certain things by return, such as not changing school menus because one person, not of this nation, moans.
If I come to the USA I should live by the laws of that land I expect no special treatment. Quite the contrary, I think it is right that I do not turn up on your shores, broke, homeless etc expecting your government to help me. I agree with the fact that it would not. This is my issue.
The UK allows anyone in who is not considered a risk to national security, the government gives them money..ON ARRIVAL to get them through. They house them, assist with clothing, furniture and even TV sets.
I just want the same rules for everyone Peter, I want the people in this country who have and do work and pay into the system to have the same rights as foreign nationals. I really object to my taxes paying for a flat screen tv for someone who has never paid a penny in tax. I object to immigrants coming to the UK and getting a house and every benefit known to man when the elderly, those whose sweat built this country are living in relative poverty.
With regard to Halal meat, if I want to eat meat prepared in accordance with the instructions given in the Koran I will convert to Islam. It should be a choice thing not a forced thing in my opinion.
If you disagree, I totally accept that and would not attempt to alter your view. Freedom of thought and speech is a right. Thank God we still have that on hear, even if it is being eroded in the wider world.
@ Burt —
Britons are now being called upon to justify their claims of ownership to Britain. One would think the claim was self-evident. That’s how far things have sunk.
If you will permit me as an “interested party,” I submit that your country is yours. Anyone who even insinuates that it belongs to the whole world equally is engaging you in a political dispute that eventually will have to be resolved by “other means” (if one chooses to look at it in Clausewitzian terms). Until that day, when the definition of “Briton” is again clarified, we can rest in the assurance that Alfred the Great, William Shakespeare, Sir Isaac Newton, Captain Cook, Florence Nightingale, Charles Dickens and Queen Elizabeth I did not eat a lot of Halal meat.
“Take care!!” I’ll do a Morris Dance next Guy Fawkes Day in your honor.
I do not use thumbs..it was not me lol
Burt the Brit
Unfortunately the UK is feeling the aftermath of an empire. It was once said the sun never set on the British Empire and with it you inherit a lot of the people within that reach. The UK received economic benefits from that arrangement for a couple of hundred years and now your paying the price. France is in a similar boat with using anyone in the Foreign Legion from their territories. Those soldiers then later obtained French citizenship and brought the village back with them. Once again France received a short term benefit at a long term expense. The legacy of slavery in the US has the same cultural effect.
In the end you pay for that cheap labor / cannon fodder sooner or later.
@burt-“they” are forcing alien traditions on the british people and country. “they” are destroying her as they are in america, and its sad to see.
@peteropolis- What makes it her country? are you serious???
How bout thousands of years of PEOPLE, CULTURE and HERITAGE!!!
If a country does not share language, beliefs, and a culture, WHAT makes them a country?
By the way, where do you live?
What country is “yours”? or does it “belong” to ME if I immigrate there!!!!
whos’s a bigger threat to the country?
politicians in Washington ?
or the illegal standing on the street corner
in front of Home Depot trying to get a job for the day ?
What’s worse cancer or a heart attack?
We’re soon going to be confronted with masses of Americans without an income. How long do you think they will remain law abiding when they have nothing? Adding to that a million or so former illegals and the outcome is obvious.
So are 535 legislators more of a threat then a million desperate people? I guess it depends on where your standing at the time.
I only see one difference..WHEN thstf, the illegals can go home to Mexico.
The unprepared, the non-preppers are here to stay.
Exactly and it took me years of thought to get to this point by the way.
All they get is entitlements while giving birth to those getting entitlements while the man of the house is working and NOT paying taxes on the earned income taken under the table….maybe 30/40,000 a year?
Now, what is the politician taking from us daily??
It’s a lot more than the illegal, for they are giving billions annually to the corporations; and it doesn’t stop there.
Heck how many countries are given billions each year?
Politicians should NOT be dual citizens..end of story.
I started reading this blog, liked some of what I saw, and decided to become a more active participant recently because I felt some of these conversations needed some fresh perspectives. I enjoy debate as much as the next guy, but some of the opinions on here represent some very uneducated viewpoints and it’s become a bit too much for me to tolerate. Many people (not everyone mind you) routinely spout off random incendiary comments, often without any factual background. These same people receive countless more “thumbs up” than “thumbs down”. Then there are the racist folks targeting their vitriole toward minorities, or the religious zealots preaching the end-times….much of which is enthusiastically supported. It was fun while it lasted, but i’m now unsubscribing to this blog, and will not post any more comments. I just wanted to submit this final sentiment so you folks can maybe consider how much of an echo chamber you live within. Enjoy the blog.
Dan: I would atleast encourage you to keep visting and reading this stuff. I too had to take some time off from posting because I found myself sucked into arguing over small things. Everyone has a fatal flaw and mine is that I cannot shut my mouth often enough. There are all kinds of personalities on here with all kinds of information that I learn from. The rest I just kind of scan over.
You and I can dissagree on something but I can still learn from your perspective and I hope that I can make people think as well.
You both made valid points. I have felt the same way as Dan when people are arguing over opinions.. they are just that. I agree with Saddle Up. Take all with a grain of salt and more often than not you will learn something. It takes two to argue and its just as easy to ignore something instead of wasting time arguing, when we all need to learn as much as we can, while we can. Nobody knows what is going to happen, It would be a shame for everything to go down and your last access to information was arguing over an opinion. But at the same time some people shouldn’t be here just to harass others such as Omegaman.
yea dan, you got good ideas and make sense, i get mad sometimes at these people who are liberals far left on here or someone who doesn’t have a clue on what they are talking about. A lot of people on here are not who they say they are. dont let it bother you. you cant let it. you make more sense than some of these people on here.
We cannot all agree all of the time, and we all have different views and perspectives. It’s a shame you have decided to go but it is your call.
Take care and good luck
Sounds like you joined for the wrong reasons to start with. “I felt some of these conversations needed some fresh perspectives.” Says you. You sound liberal to the core. You see something you don’t like and you “feel” the need to change it. Or “nudge” it as some in Obama’s cabinet would suggest. You then whine and complain about something as childish and thumbs up and down. What do you really have to offer this website and the readers of it when you’re complaining about something as trivial as ratings????? You need to man up because what’s coming down the tubes is going to flush all your worries of thumbs up or down ratings right down the toilet.
Well Clint, I’m not sure how you make the leap from me thinking “a fresh perspective” could be healthy for the readership, to the conclusion that I’m a liberal, but I’ll overlook that and answer your question.
I was a lurker here for some time, and enjoyed a good portion of the posts. Not all but many. As I started to read the comments more frequently, I noticed 3 groups of people. Group A) people that appear genuinely polite in their posts and form well thought out opinions that they are willing to back up in exchanges when challenged
Group B) people that throw out incendiary comments expressing an extreme opinion (these are often racial, religious, or extreme political views)
Group C) people that attack either of the previous two groups with superficial insults or commentary
I figured that since I often disagreed with comments from both groups A and B, it would be more interesting to engage in a more reasonable exchange or argument about some of the common topics (i.e. today with immigration) between groups A and C. If you’ll notice, there is often a lack of coherent debate. It’s far more often insults being lobbed around (or at the very least, the tone of your response to me), OR people patting each other on the back, and less frequently a true exchange of opinion.
Being married to a European immigrant myself, this particular comment section put me over the top today. While I’ve enjoyed some of the exchanges with group A (Saddle Up, BtB, etc.), the group B people have really turned me off.
And no, I couldn’t care less about the childish ratings as you put it. I was citing them as an example of how much support there is for that group B set of folks. If you look up at my earlier post in response to Cassandra, perhaps you can see why. Yes, I got a little angry, but as Saddle Up mentioned in the post immediately following this one….everything is about perspectives. I encourage you to go back and look at the exchange and you’ll see what I mean.
Ok, I don’t want to get dragged into a long debate here….because I’m a sucker for arguing. Doesn’t seem like I’m going to convince you of anything either. I suspect you enjoy the pats on the back and I’m sure you’ll get plenty of kudos for calling me a liberal. Well done.
Fresh perspectives are fine. Condoning or making excuses for illegal immigration without thought or knowledge of the harm it is causing this nation is not fine.
Didn’t you say you weren’t going to be posting anymore. Integrity is when you do what you say you are going to.
You are a sucker that is for sure. Either that or you are one of the employers who cannot exist without cheap, exploited and illegal labor. That or a shill for the open borders crowd.
Just like most Muslims, most Central Americans are openly hostile to Americams in USA. They will subjigate you and attack you physically given the oportunity. Face it, you cannot be their friend. They hate you the same as they hate me. If admitting the truth fits your definition of racism, so be it. If USA lasts that long, wait until they have large enough numbers to run USA politically and see how magnamous they are. You will not admit it, but you will remember this post. Do you think they are happy to be your landscaper or driver?
goodbye dan. good riddance dan.
@eeder-I usualy do not agree with your delivery,this time I do. Maybe it was all that tequila last night, or maybe its his crying about red thumbs, green thumbs, and “extreme viewpoints”.
I object to being called uneducated because I only have three college degrees none of which are in liberal arts. I know a lot of educated idiots. I’ll bet on those with wisdom every time.
@ Dan —
If I understand your remarks correctly, you view those comments objecting to the demographic and cultural submergence of traditional America as “inflammatory,” but those that support this inundation/invasion are “mainstream.”
P.S. Your view of people and nations having no existence outside of being mere economic units speaks volumes about you. And perhaps your agenda as well.
Dan you need to grow a pair. Most women that visit this site have much bigger kohonas than you and I’d much rather have them watching my back or me watching theirs, than a pansy. If you are so “touchy” and “thin skinned” as your words indicate; then you have a rough road ahead when the times really get tough and you have to meet adversity and constant confusion and debate head-on. Anyhow, I do wish you well and good luck when dealing with others that don’t think as you.
I read back over some of the comments mine included when something came to mind.
Things tend to be seen in a different light when it is personal. Here is a quick hypothetical that may sting a few people at first but it is not meant to hurt anyone just make everyone think a bit more.
What would happen if manos was so worried about his family in Greece and scraped enough money together to come to the US. How would all of us on this site welcome him? Would we tell him that laws be damned come on over and start a fresh life? Or would we tell him to stay out and that his cheap labor is a drain on our economy? Would we allow others to treat him on this board and say some of the things written without handing them a quick harsh tongue lashing?
Things are always seen with a different perspective when it is more personal.
I know the families of some illegals personally. Their coming here was a wish to better their lives from that they would have in Mexico. Same with Manos, as you posit above. Taken as individuals, there is nothing wroing with them, but for their illegal status.
Still, we have to put our personal feelings aside and treat everyone the same. Neither Manos nor Juan should be here. They need to stay in their own country and reform it, make it work, so they don’t need to escape.
More fuel and legal justification for the coming MASS ARRESTS. After that, I’d like to see barbed wire and machine guns on the southern and northern borders.
When are these arrests coming then? You have been banging on about them for an age
fair enough toomanyfakecons, but we will also have our weapons pointed directly at you. i agree completely with the arrests.
TMFC…There were open borders with Canada until 1978.What caused the need for a passport after that, who knows. It’s not like they wanted to come here and I used to like fishing in Canada before it cost $500 for a piece of crap paper to let me cross an invisible line. It all has to do with the fascist corp we have in control and the constant need to rape the common man for a continuing revenue stream.Much as I like the whiskey and the pike and bass fishing, I will not be going there anytime soon, no offense to eeder or Daisy.
;0) i puckin luv this quote :
” While it is illegal to vote in a Presidential election unless you are a U.S. citizen, the only thing a would-be voter needs to cast a ballot is proof of residency (in most States, not even that is required), which is easily obtainable once immunity or legal status is granted . ”
*** last i checked that same law applies to the puckin kenyan british communist homo drug usin’ muslim national illuminati organ grinder monkey boy sittin in the puckin white house !!!
every single law that he has past in NUUL N VOID !!!
ILLEGAL AS HE IS A ILLEGAL ALIEN !!!
puck the illuminati bilderboybugger zionist freemason feds !!!
be a good cop nina. use your abilities to stop evil. i encourage you to do it. NO MORE SPYING!
How the F*** do illegal immigrants join the U.S. military? I had to sign up for selective service and get my SSN before even talking to a recruiter. I don’t get it. I signed up “open contract” and got to be a rifleman and had to jump through hoops to do that. But they allow someone who isn’t from here to swear to uphold the Consitution? We are in the Matrix. Unplug me please.
Illegal immigrants can’t legally enlist. However, sometimes they do enlist with fraudlent green cards. This was done a lot 2007-2009 — there were even a few recruiters who got caught helping illegals get fradulent green cards. (Recruiters were having a hard time hitting their numbers.) Most of the time, when illegals got caught, they were booted out — these illegals would not be eligible because they lack an honorable discharge.
However, some were discovered and not discharged. (There is a loophole in a federal statute limiting enlistment to citizens and green card holders specifically states that this rule applies “in time of peace”). To keep hard-to-fill slots filled, they were retained. Some eventually received an honorable discharge.
There was also a program in 2009 that recruited nonresidents with temporary visas. (Student visas, amnesty requests, etc.) This was mostly to fill slots for healthcare professionals and Arabic and Yoruba speakers. It was supposed to include a six-month path to citizenship. However, I’m assuming it included a lot of paperwork — and the program was short-lived so it is possible that some of these participants did not become citizens, may have lapsed into illegal status and would be covered under the program.
Wow! Talk about missing the point. This is just election politics not immigration reform.
Obama wants the vote from Latinos already on the voter rolls. (The decision to not deport is not permanent; it will not lead to citizenship. If you were illegal, would you register with the government to get a 2-year work permit, if it meant that the next adminstration would have your address when the decided to reverse the policy and begin deportations again?)
Likewise, purging the voter rolls in Florida is more political pandering, just at the opposite end of the spectrum. Most of the suspected voters are minorities and democrats. The people pushing the purge are predominantly white and republican.
The 182k illegals number is very suspect. So far, they’ve backgrounded approx 640 of them in areas most likely to have illegals (Miami, Broward, Palm Beach).
94 are non-citizens who have never voted.
47 are non-citizens who have voted.
500 are citizens and lawful voters.
Florida has more than 11 million voters. If you apply the sampling stats to the rest of the names on the list: Noncitizen voters who have voted in previous elections would work out to a little over 1% of registered voters.
Note: That percentage is probably higher than the reality — the initial numbers are from the areas most likely to have problems.
Should we work to clean up the rolls? Sure. But we shouldn’t allow politicians to do a half-assed job just to skew election results. So far most of the people on this list are people who should be able to vote. In the preelection rush, there’s a pretty big risk that they’ll end up purging citizens along with ineligibles.
Even more importantly we shouldn’t waste taxpayer money by paying overtime just to get this done ahead of presidential elections. A way better option would be a slow, methodical approach paired up with an increase in controls during the initial voter registration.
It very often takes just 1% of the vote in a precinct to change the outcome of an election. We can’t dismiss the removal of even a handful of illegal voters as overkill, we’ve all seen elections turn on a few dozen or hundred votes in every state.
The smaller the state the easier to take over. Just twenty thousand immigrants in a small state can swing one hundred years of voting precedent in a short time. Think the wise guys don’t know that? Think of all the Somalis that are moving to Maine. It ain’t for the weather but the welfare and the chance to wield huge influence for their numbers.
;0) i puckin luv this quote :
” While it is illegal to vote in a Presidential election unless you are a U.S. citizen, the only thing a would-be voter needs to cast a ballot is proof of residency (in most States, not even that is required), which is easily obtainable once immunity or legal status is granted . ”
*** last i checked that same law applies to the puckin kenyan british communist homo drug usin’ muslim national illuminati organ grinder monkey boy sittin in the puckin white house !!!
every single law that he has past in NUUL N VOID !!!
ILLEGAL AS HE IS A ILLEGAL ALIEN !!!
puck the illuminati bilderboybugger zionist freemason feds !!!
i know its misspelled . i’m too p.o.’d to type right any more .
the ” legal law ” double standard class system that exist in this prison plantation nation you call ameriKa is only going to get worse .
its going to get a lot worse for you all .
its only a matter of time .
its their plan .
Anyone being sent back to Kenya in January?
The whole thing makes me sick
We let it happen. Fat, dumb and happy and too cool to be informed or vote. In some sectors of our society it is considered cool to be ignorant. Try being a smart black kid in a black school. Could get you beat up.
What Obama is doing is unconstitutional. Only Congress has the right to grant an amnesty. The American people have repeatedly said “NO!” to amnesty. Now, Obama is circumventing the immigration laws and the will of the American people.
Wait until the economic system falls apart. There is going to be such anger that we have never seen in this country. This anger is building up and our leaders and the elitists they serve will have no one to blame but themselves.
PS: Go to the NumbersUSA website and help fight this new assault on our country.
It’s not amnesty. It’s a policy shift. If Obama doesn’t win, Romney can reverse the policy. More than that, he will have addresses of every illegal alien who applied under the program and can begin to deport them.
you really think this is going to break america? you’re weak.
You are the one that is weak. By itself no but considering this is just one of many assaults on national borders yes they all add up. Then again too many are like you and don’t really care what happens. You have yours and screw the future.
lisa you need to be off this site, you are clueless and very stupid.
Ask DK. He lives in Arizona, right on the front lines of this colonization effort. They are sucking America dry and turning it into a turd world shithole just like the one they came from. Look in any public school in a border (or many other) state(s). They outbreed U.S. citizens by a wide margin. They are indeed breaking America. Your attitude is what got USA to where it is today.
If you look up the word; ” TRAITOR ” in Websters dictionary; you’d see a picture of Barry right next to it. Seriously. It amazes me to no end that some clueless goofs think this Marxist is actually doing a good job. On a personal note; i miss talking to my parents and grandparents; but i’am extremely happy they won’t have to bear witness to the absolute hell coming down on this once great country.
Wow, your right.
From the dictionary put ou there for a freeman-
1. One who violates his allegiance and betrays his country; one guilty of treason; one who, in breach of trust, delivers his country to its enemy, or any fort or place entrusted to his defense, or who surrenders an army or body of troops to the enemy, unless when vanquished; or one who takes arms and levies war against his country; or one who aids an enemy in conquering his country.
2. Barrack Hussein Obama(out of Kevin’s revised edition)
Now from the dictionary put out there for the sheep-
a person who betrays another, a cause, or any trust.
a person who commits treason by betraying his or her country.
Question for you US bods. Is it true that Romney had a Mexican parent? If so that disqualifies him from the presidential race as he isn’t “natural born” either as my understanding of the term is that you have to be born of US citizens on US soil to qualify.
IF I have my facts straight – The USA is being offered a straight choice vote for a red illegal candidate or a blue illegal candidate.
I’m hoping that you’ll be able to correct me on this one as the implications of what I’m thinking is far more important than this latest diversionary tactic by Obumma.
(He has no need to legalise these indviduals – the electronic voting machines, postal votes & dodgy counting practces will take care of ensuring the vote gives the results that ptb have already decided upon for the next stage of the game)
It very often takes just 1% of the vote in a precinct to change the outcome of an election. We can’t dismiss the removal of even a handful of illegal voters as overkill, we’ve all seen elections turn on a few dozen or hundred votes in every state.
You must have two US parents, be born on US soil, or be born in a US territory, or be born abroad with a US mother and registered at the US consulate, and such rules, to be a ‘natural born’ citizen. Romney fits the rule without question. Obama, provided his credentials are not forgeries, also fits the rule.
lonelonmum…..My understanding of this is,yes,Mitt Romney’s father was born in Mexico.However,it hasn’t yet been determined if Mitt’s grandfather renounced his citizenship or was stripped of it when he fled to Mexico to start a new Mormon settlement.He lived in Mexico for 20 years or so before returning to the US.If he retained his citizenship while in Mexico and lived as an expatriate until returning to the US, Mitt’s father would still be a naturalized citizen and thus Mitt himself would also be a natural born citizen. However if Mitt’s grandfather renounced his citizenship to go to Mexico, Mitt Romney is not a natural born citizen and thus ineligible for the Presidency.At this point in time,I’m not sure that the PTB really give a fuck.
I think you can be born anywhere to two US citizen parents.
Just one illegal takin’ care of another [million].
this is nothing more than a big kerfluffle
“The new policy will not grant citizenship to children who came to the United States as illegal immigrants, but will remove the threat of deportation and grant them the right to work in the United States. ”
Congress has repeatedly refused to deal with the problem in a constructive way
great cnbc is now playing barack obama ads
hmmmm….take a look at the cover of time mag this past week. kinda strange how they were able to set this up before the big announcement. anybody surprised?
It seems this article has served its intended purpose. The King is at it again with his class warfare memes. Face it people, your masters love it when the house slaves look down on the field slaves.Serfs up America.
JRS – I couldn’t agree more.
Divide & conquer – so simple, yet so effective.
Someone just said my name???? When I see those good Democrats like Obama and Joe and Hillary and Nancy and Reid, smiling and clapping on TV, I know everything is gonna be OK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“While it is illegal to vote in a Presidential election unless you are a U.S. citizen, the only thing a would-be voter needs to cast a ballot is proof of residency (in most States, not even that is required), which is easily obtainable once immunity or legal status is granted.”
Fact check: DHS and USCIS say they will stop deportation immediately; however, they estimate that illegal immigrants will not be able to apply for the program for at least 60 days (approx Aug 16). After that, they still need to determine eligiblity. Last day to register for general elections is October 16, 2012. This program won’t add hundreds of thousands of new voters to the rolls for this election. It may motivate all ready registered Latino voters to vote. If Romney wins, he will reverse the policy.
Demand Congress doesn’t let him get away with this.
IF THEY DON’T STOP THIS, there will be more he will do. I’m tired of him stepping over his power. Same on Libya, he didn’t go to Congress first.
This should send a message to the Supreme Court on how much more Obamacare will cost. We are falling apart in debt now.
Heck, it got ya’ll attention off the European meltdown, didn’t it?
No, not at all. Also Holder still at the top.
God, This guy’s is an 100% thru & thru solid piece of shit/asswipe of the highest order. It defies imagination.
He has to be given a country-wide gigantic pink slip in Nov or we are toast as a country. He sees himself above Congress which is a veery dangerous mindset for a POTUS to have.
I’m surprised so many on this site are surprised. He said he was going to do it and with all the bad news, serious NS leaks and F n F coming to a head he deflected. Don’t look at that old stuff, here is some new red meat, watch the birdie!! He’s probing and pushing the borders of the Constitution and no one is puting him in check. I suppose everyone will be surprised at his October surprise too.
oops–testing again !
welcome to the Despotic states of amerika where one man can ignore and over-ride the entirety of the very governmental structure which put him in the president’s position all the while sneering and critisizing it… ALL illegals should be deported, regardless of their lack of criminal history, “contributions” to our society, and how many children they have spawned only to have them parasitically suck off our welfare system or steal employment from Americans… it’s past time we take our country back – from all invaders and enemies
Nope, they are Mexican Army, under guise as “teens”. So when we get hit from within, and Russia and China show true colors.
Cmon now, all this “cartel” violence……..
Chinese units seen in the woods in Mexico…..
Something that does bother me that I have been thinking about this amnesty…….If dinglefritz(Oromney) was currently president and he was down in the polls like ol’hang-glider ears(Ostumbles), would Oromney pull this stunt? What would GWB do? Look folks, we got the likes of Jamie Dimon and John Corzine who are walking around after losing billions of peoples dollars and are keeping a straight face when shrugging their shoulders saying,”I don’t know where it is or went”. Why are these people still walking around and not leaking blood out of multiple holes? I’ve got a good idea. We can make some shovel ready jobs available by diggin many, many holes and then filling them in……get it?
google- “praises obama on immigration” You get THOUSANDS of article’s. EVERYONE is praising this according to the MSM!!!(I meant msm, capitalization is to much respect)
GWB always wanted to grant amnesty.
watch how american citizens (the minutemen) are treated in Lost angelis.
LA is(has been) wasted.
Here is a man that speaks the truth about illegal immigration.
opps, he and many others are black!!
Is he/the others rascists?
Or does he speak the truth.
Why are us whites rascist if we do not want them here but he is not??
You know whats sad, in iran even the president has to show id to vote. Look at the box that the votes go in.
We have cardboard boxes with resealable tape(and being found in trunks of cars weeks after elections)
Look what they got.
We are called “rascists” if we want people to prove they are citizens.
We are a joke!!
1 more step Torward to ruin this country.. 1 closer step to civil war on US SOIL..
This is not semantics. We started as a Free Constitutional Republic. We are now a Democracy. A Democracy is socialist. Socialism is not freedom. Lenin said, “democracy is the first step towards communism”. Big difference between Socialism and a Free Republic. Under Socialism your rights can be voted away by the majority. Under a Republic, they cannot. Lock and load!
If we all go back far enough, we will find illegal immigrants in our ancestry. History is full of one people being displaced by another. Our European ancestors displaced the native populations. Now, those of us who are descended from European settlers are being displaced and do not like it. Remember, what goes around comes around.
we came here when laws allowed it. we dont have the money to give them medicaid, ssi, food stamps, free or discounted college while hard working young men/women are trying to get into a college, but democrats want more diversity and breakdown. I cant believe you said that. i know what your saying but dont you see the big picture here?
Wait till they come to your neighborhood and turn it into a barrio. Without Us citizens financing it, it would not happen.
Americans have tolerated it in order to get cheaper landscaping or roof work, and are paying a huge price for it. Our prisons are full of illegals. They don’t ALL come to pick veggies.
WW: There can’t be 30 million many lettuce and tomato pickers in the US.
I hate this POS BASTARD with every fiber of my being. I wanted to like him, I really did, but pretty much everything he has done since being in office has pissed me off big time. I hate him more than any other POTUS in my lifetime. That lard ass Ted Kennedy runs a close second. Good thing he’s pushin daisys now.
First it’s the illegals, now he is moving on to the gays. God, I “love” diversity! NOT.
you have every right to and this is how I feel as well. people should be in the streets demanding him to be impeached now but they wont, they just keep quiet and hope for the best. well we know doing that does nothing. we need to all overload congress and our electives to let them know to get obama out of office. enough is enough
By the way – those “innocent” illegals that are joining our military are using what they learn there to go back and teach the cartels.
OUR GOVERNMENT IS BROKEN!!!!!
you know what, i was in navy for years and we all know we are proud of each other, the best kept secrets are the best unlike this sloppy reporter who writes and tells the world what we are up too or obama breaking every law possible like the illegals now so he can win votes. Obama is a disgrace to this country and a complete joke that nobody respects. without his teleprompter he is useless and i mean useless, he costs all of us more money and loss of jobs and regulations. obamas a joke plain and simple. and nobody respects him after he lied about open doors and following the consititution. He is a traitor a coward and a moron to say the least about this POS. Hope he gets impeached sooner than later with his axelrod dumbsss and eric holder who’s just as big of a wreck as obama is himself. Even his own family doesn’t repect the cock sucker. Michelle can finally be proud of this country they have torn apart and the people with it. In an article today it said obama does not have the power to turn this economy around by AP. what a joke that is, he just make it harder for about 800,000 people to find work.
first a comment then a question. First It seems strange to me that thhings were on a very slow progression as far as the country goin down the tubes, but look how fast things are moving in this one term. It strikes me as odd. I am thinking this fast movement was not planned my TPTB but somwthing happened somewhere that caused a panic of sorts to get things movin. Anybody else share this line of thinking?
Second I thought Romenys’ parents were from Mexico. Am I mistaken? Would that not be the same situation as we are in now not having a person running for office that is not inline with the constitutional requirements? Please let me know of I am wrong, thanx
You are mistaken, Romney is a citizen and qualified to run for the office. His grandparents went to Mexico to live as expatriates, and Mitt Romney was born there to US parents, that makes him a citizen.
You are right about the first, we were in trouble with the housing, jobs, etc., but we could have worked our way out it. Then the Arabs decided to keep oil prices up and there it went. Top that off with refusal to develop our own resources, and our money is disappearing into the gas tank, no room for error at the end of the month.
Obama is pushing his agenda quickly, and we don’t like it one bit.
Perhaps I am stating the obvious, but these 800,000 people are ALREADY IN THE COUNTRY and have most likely voted in past elections. Immigration status has not had anything to do with who is permitted to vote for a long time in this country……….sadly.
While on the subject of O’drama and his illegal moves; check out the re-dumbs that voted for his right hand man (Holder) who has a track record of doing illegal stuff. In addition to Hatch and Bond, the other 17 Senate Republicans who helped put Holder in place at the Justice Department were: Lamar Alexander, R-Tenn., Bob Bennett, R-Utah, Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga., Susan Collins, R-Maine, Bob Corker, R-Tenn., Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, Judd Gregg, R-N.H., Johnny Isakson, R-Ga., Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., Richard Lugar, R-Ind., John McCain, R-Ariz., Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, Arlen Specter, R-Pa., and George Voinovich, R-Ohio. The voters from these states should pay attention. These repub cronies should be voted out.
The bigger picture, I think, is all the Mexican voters that were about to jump ship an vote against the dems. With a free pass to all illegals, this will bring the swayed Mexican vote back into the damn dem fold. Most Mexicans will vote the same. It was just another tactic to swing more votes. Even still, the bigger picture is to make it easier for illegals to come on in the money pit on the backs of the American taxpayer. TPTB want the illegals to be so overwhelming in real numbers that they can eventually get most of the sheeple to accept Mexico as a 51st state.
what is really sad is the stuped liberal voters dont see the facts at hand,they claim he has done nothing wrong. those are the sheeple who will go down in smoke with the sinking ship. this country is up shit creat as long as we have retard voters out there still in faver of big ears. he is selling them out just as he is the rest of us but some how the liberal voters dont think it will effect them.
i know this because i talk with the retard liberal every chance i get.,they are completely brain dead.
One day they will take over the humans…………
QUESTION FOR ANYONE: How many of this niche group were deported in 2012? in 2011? in 2010? I am guessing NONE. It’s a great big FARCE, this announcement. I wish people would stop taking everything pouring out of Oblahblah’s mouth as accurate and real. I do not like illegal immigrants. PERIOD. I do not hire them, I do not tolerate them, I do not want them in my neighborhood.
There are others who think this announcement is a great big bonus for the illegals. I personally do not think so. This is “divide and conquer” in my opinion. Get all these hapless idiots to register, find documents (or falsify documents more likely), put themselves willingly in a data base where they can be tracked, reveal their parents and all other pertinent info including who rented to them, who supported them, who educated them – you get the idea. This is the first wave of the Gestapo. Line them up and chip them.
And how many law suits do you see arising from this – first from the sane and educated who know he’s smoking crack and stomping on the Constitution for which he has zero respect. And then from all the other niche groups who for some reason fall outside this narrow slice of Puke Pie. Why? So he (B.O.) can overwhelm the system, create chaos, divert attention, and generally play magic tricks while he does other dastardly things while us saps are talking about this dastardly thing.
Will SOMEONE please impeach this fraud, or at least tie him up with so many law suits he’ll never see the light of day, even if he returns to his homeland, Kenya.
I am told by the complex intellectual Liberals that Trespassers are hard working, good people.
If that’s the case. Why are they leaving Mexico? Shouldn’t “hard working”, “good people” create a place in the sun that I want to trespass to?
Don’t let the complex intellectual Liberals fool you.
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How about you guy’s leave him alone I will benifit from this and I would bet money that I do better in school then you did or your kids are doing 😛 comment all you want dislike all you want, but it is what it is. Later haters
WOW! I did not realize that there were so many racists in our country. Really???? This is not your country it was taken from the very people we don’t allow in the country and have live in fear of deportation. I am glad Obama is righting some wrongs that US has done. They live here and they don’t bother you. btw anyone who thinks Obama is voted in by Racist blacks….please believe and understand that racism is a system in which blacks are at the bottom of the totem pole so while we can discriminate…it is impossible for us to be racist. We don’t have that kind of power as a people, but whites however do and it disgusts me and surfaces America’s racist attitudes reading these comments. You feel you are so entitled….And what makes YOU sooooo entitled? If your ancestors were not immigrants, you wouldn’t be here. Learn your history people! These people being kept off the lands that were once theirs is not right! And while many people who do not have Native American decent also migrate to the US, and rightly so because if your forefathers could why shouldn’t they be able to, The bulk of our immigrants are Mexican and guess what? Most Mexicans are of Native American Decent! How cruel what we keep doing to them. And we have a bunch of racists on this page who continue the horrible legacy. Wake up! Have some empathy for others….This life is NOT ALL ABOUT YOU!