No Doubt About It: “They Are Setting the Stage for Violence In This Country”

by | Aug 20, 2011 | Headline News | 206 comments

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    At the Ames Iowa straw poll a member of Minnesota Change asked Dr. Ron Paul his thoughts on HR 645 the National Emergency Centers Establishment Act.

    The answer provided is shocking to say the least, especially coming from an active member of Congress and one who has time and again proven himself to be a trustworthy and knowledgeable resource:

    I know that’s their goal. They’re setting up the stage for violence in this country.

    No doubt about it.

    -Ron Paul, August 2011

    While the bill itself has not become law, it attempted to address certain aspects of emergency mobilizations, including the establishment of emergency detention centers.

    It has already been established with 100% certainty that “emergency centers” are in existence throughout the United States and they number in the hundreds. Some of the larger centers, often referred to as detention camps and/or refugee relocation facilities, can house upwards of 50,000 people.

    HR 645 may not have become law, but it doesn’t have to. The President of the United States, via executive order, can declare a national emergency (and will when the time is right and necessary), implement martial law, and execute emergency procedures as outlined in HR 645 and a host of other procedures without any say so from Congress or the American people.

    There is absolutely no reason that hundreds of acres of land, millions of dollars, and thousands of man hours would have been spent for no reason. Someone, somewhere plans on populating these facilities at some point in the near future.

    Given recent events around the globe and the fact that the US government and military are actively war-gaming large scale economic breakdown and civil unrest we, like Dr. Paul, have no doubt that the stage is being set.


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      1. At least they’re keeping us safe. And fighting for our rights overseas.

        • There NOT keeping anybody “safe”,… except there own Federal Criminals, listed below.

          They are in fact creating the problems so that after the population starts to rebel, they can then justify Martial Law.

          Anyone who thinks its the Fed Govt’s goal is to “keep us safe” is either a complete moron or a complete shill.

          You want to really be safe? Then get rid of the worlds largest Terrorist Organisations like:

          1) CIA

          2) TSA

          3) FBI

          4) IRS

          5) DHS

          6) DOD

          7) NSA

          8) OCS

          9) EPA

          10) FDA

          11) FED

          and so,….annnndddd soo on…..

          The US Federal Government is COMPLETELY out of control, is completely run amok, and has completely grabbed authorities far in excess of Constitutional limits.

          In short,.. The US Federal Government is completely Treasonous in virtually EVERY aspect of its operations now.

          It is time to abolish the Federal Gov’t and provide new guards for our future securities as Jefferson stated in the Declaration Of Independence.

          US Marines.

          • It’s called sarcasm, sorry you weren’t able to catch on.

            I don’t think they are keeping us safe here or fighting for our rights and freedoms overseas.

            Anonymous, are you including the US Marines in your list of terrorist organizations, along with the DOD? The military hasn’t fought for the freedoms of Americans for a long time. I feel sorry for all the pawns in the military that either just want the welfare/benefits that the gov hands out or that bought into the patriotic propaganda. The pawns are just fighting for the elites.

          • You’re a Marine and you’re saying that? isn’t that just like John McCain bitching about social medicine? You’re complaining about the very thing you’ve relied on and used for the last few decades to support yourself and your family.

            • US Marines take their oath to “protect and defend the Constitution of the United States from all enemies, foreign and domestic” seriously to heart.

              Our Government, though it has many other issues, blatantly rendered the United States Constitution unilaterally null and void by completely gutting the Law of Contracts the day they shafted GM bondholders to benefit union special interests at General Motors.

              The US Constitution WAS a contract between the government and the citizens of the United States. That contract was unilaterally declared unenforcable.

              We see otherwise.

              Semper Fi

            • Sketch, listen to youself ol’ boy. I can say for myself, that neither my family or I, have relied on any of the entities listed by Anonymous, nor any other other ones he forgot. Furthermore the Fed has now become a huge monstrosity and with these treasonist individuals whose sole purpose is to crush our individual rights, they have become MY ememy.

            • Double Tap

              Stay away from the sarcasm and stop being a arm chair prepper, the 15 years I was in the service I never was treated as a pawn, the choices were mine alone to do, whether I agree with the situation or not. Obviously you are not or never a member of the selected services as others here in the forum( its the way you talk/blog). The Army like Marines, Air Force, Navy took a oath to protect and to serve the American people from foreign and domestic enemies so that people like you who could never serve proud( your reference as us being pawns)could talk the way you do. So while you think what you think, not all of us who serve are terrorist or criminals, Most of us do still have morals and values that came from traditional family values instead of your Gen X here and now generation. My career ending wound in 2003 never opened my eyes more to how proud I am as a American to suffer terrible pain and 3 surgeries later so that weak people like you could bitch and complain. Until then change your wanna be Zombie / Zombieland moniker to Double Sissy or Double Chin why don’t you show some respect because when the SHTF it’ll be former soldiers like me and my brothers in arms that will take to fight back to the oppressors. Remember to think before you speak in this case blog

          • Anonymous … Speaking of criminals, you missed one on your list. Check out the wiki on the sponsor of the Bill. Makes you cringe. I hope redistricting removes him from office.


          • That’s becuase the US GOV has been infiltrated by Israeli citizens who are hell bent on destroying this country and the people in it.

            • Stop wasting your time here and go back to polishing your jackboots.

            • you are a moron!

        • I’m glad someone has a sense of humor here.

        • You need to wake up! They are NOT fighting for “Us”.
          They are fighting for the Corporate Banks and TPTB.
          If the Military was fighting for us, they would be on our
          borders! Defending Americans, not the Afghans!
          If they told you to jump off a cliff…….you would!

          • Sorry DoubleTap; didn’t know it was sarcasm on your part!
            So easy to get defensive these days! SEMPER FI !

      2. Its coming…… can just feel it….forget Gold and Silver….make sure you have lead, and plenty of it.

        • The third precious metal.

          • One resource for acquiring lead is old xray rooms. Any time there is a remodel, or they move a wall… Entire walls of 1/8″ lead gets crumpled and disposed of. They don’t reuse it. I know, not entirely practical or easy to obtain source. But just put it in the back of your mind that it is there. I have melted it down into ingots before and it yields nicely. Fyi, a #10 can over a camp fire is sufficient to liquify it. Get a solid layer of packed clay, press your molds into it, pour carefully….viola!! Further shape when cooled. Oddly a wooden dowel, stick or pencil can easily take the shape of a bullet and be stabbed into the clay. At your own risk, educational purposes only. The EPA has endorsed this message.

            • Sheepdog: Nice tip. Thats what a forum is for.

            • Duh! I forgot to mention the best source for lead… Tire shops. They will give you old wheel weights for free. And remember the lead is shiny and silvery when molten. The crap slag on to needs to be skimmed off. Learn how to make home made primers and black powder. You got an unending supply of ammo Davy Crockett style.

        • I don’t know who said it but as the old adage goes;
          Rich men but Gold
          Wise men buy lead!!

          • But survivors buy both.

        • AMEN! No such thing as too much ammunition! “Praise the Lord and pass me some”!

      3. Of course they are. Their plan is well known.. Order out of chaos. They must first create chaos before they can be the hero’s and restore order.

        I only hope enough people have awakened to at least keep a few pockets of freedom here and there.

        It doesn’t matter what the Congress does any more. It is all coming down to what the People do, individually and as a group.

      4. They are getting ready, I hope you guys are too. There was a vacant commercial building 2 miles from my house, that has been bought up by the government. Now the entire thing has chain link fence around it and massive FEMA trucks, FEMA trailers, FEMA RV’s, satelite dishes, etc.

        • Where? Address? Intersection? City? Not saying it ain’t happening, but if your gonna make s statement like that, then where is it ?

          Once again, we are going through civil disorder training at work. My buds reserve unit is rotating to the sandbox, but they’re doing civil disorder training for their 2 weeks….hmmm

          • It might be better for Rifle’s safety is he/she did not reveal that address.

            • Scout,

              Come on man, you should know that a trip to the public library in the next town over and a phoney user account they wouldn’t know who is who, plus the I.P address would put the information coming from the library and not town in which Rifle lives unless he/she is using the same search criteria and normal forums they go to. Simple to just post under a different name and leave it at that. Guerrilla Posting….


              Piston or Gas Driven????

        • Do you know how to make a fire look like an oops?


        • Id like to see some pics of that if you could please

      5. Just think “Red Dawn” re-education camp. Only ain’t nobody hollars “And…. thats a rap”! as some of the actors walk off and smoke em if they got em. The only problem is how the time frame is gonna be. Gradual? In lurches? Or one morning we get up and we’re hip deep in it. Try and take the time for family and close friends. Not only because of what we feel is going down, but because its what we should do regardless. Keep rotating food stock in and out. I am however, starting to feel even more so, a real sense of urgency to get things done as each day goes by. I keep writing notes to myself to help me remember as I try to keep the business going. My wife is on board, my son has really come around, my daughter? well….. she’s in her own little world living in the city. I know one day I’m going to get that call, “Dad, please come get me” and I’ll have to fight my way in and out to bring her back home. I will do just that. Take care all and stay vigilant.

        • Hi,

          As i see it, it’s not for their best interest to have a direct clash with the majority of the nation.
          Instead they will create smaller problems touching each of the society’s working classes.
          Each of these problems will be in conflict will all the rest.
          So slowly each working class will turn against the other.
          Then the government will come again and present its solution. This solution will be terrible, will drag austerity measures behind, and will reveal a crapy future.
          No matter what, everybody will come begging for help even if this means reduced income, rights, priveleges, or pension.
          As for the rebels, that’s when the camps will come in handy. But first these rebels will be demonized or ridiculed because the government will want to avoid this kind of “behavior” in the future.
          And there will come a time that we will tell stories of excursions with the family, tell stories of how we could buy clothes, or bread.
          Because by then, a new system of “socio-fascism” will have 6.99 billion poor, and 0,01 outrageously rich.

          PO’dpatriot, all the steps i mentioned except of the final, have already been implemented in Greece.
          Even my dad and mom, university graduates and clever people, now are grateful that the government cut 1/3 of my dad’s pention and not all of it.
          It’s sad to see a whole nation to sleep in an absolute impassiveness. Since the May riots it seems as if they were spraying us with chems all day long.
          Now its the final step to see, which presumably will be some false flag event. This will drag attention from daily problems and will coil all citizens around the government’s directives.

          Stay safe. I pray for all of you.

          • Manos, thank you for your words of wisdom and prayers they are worth more than any gold. My prayers go out to you and family, as well as your countrymen. Keep safe and in touch.

          • Manos u are a wealth of information. Thank you. Your posts will help us prepare better for our failing future. My prayers are with u and your family.

        • PO’dPatriot,
          I appreciated your comment about your daughter who will give you the call someday to come get her out of Dodge. I have the same problem with my little girl. I hope I can get her to change her mind before I get “the call”.
          Enjoyed your comment.

        • your a ‘man ‘ after my heart bro. Take care of that family and ‘ listen’ to that intuition in the mid section. Just do what it says. Me….I got 2 bridges between me and mine and I envision just that…fightin my way down there. I hope I can get my poopadoop together and get us all farther north where the like minded people are. Sooneer or later we gonna need each other. We gonna be back to the Common Law before ya knows it.

      6. All those government psychics and/or psychotics employed by the CIA back in the day must have seen something they aren’t telling us about: like Earth Changes.

        All the more reason to prep and prepare, relocate if necessary and wait until the SHTF in America. Work if you can find it, doing whatever it takes to survive, in a safe location.

        Just remember that work is for people who don’t know how to fish or prospect. Buy a metal detector, a gold pan, and some classifiers. Educate yourself and learn to make fish flies.

        I suspect that those detention centers are being prepared for the masses of inner city residents who will be caught with their pants down and buckled under their ass with their boxers showing.

        Two word: Dogtown Reservior. I got mine. Find yours.

      7. I just read a book called “The 900 Days”. It’s about the siege of Leningrad during WW2 and what the people went through regarding starvation, electricity, violence, cannibalism, etc. People were giving away gold and diamonds for an extra slice of bread, sometimes they couldn’t even get that. Sawdust was added to the bread as filler. Pick it up at the library, it’s worth reading.

        • Good for you!!!! I read that book for the first time 15 years ago and it changed my life……

          • Willie Wonka and Veruca Salt together again!

        • Talk about being hungry, read the Blessings and the Cursing of following or not following God!

          Deuteronomy 28
          Blessings for Obedience
          1 If you fully obey the LORD your God and carefully follow all his commands I give you today, the LORD your God will set you high above all the nations on earth. 2 All these blessings will come on you and accompany you if you obey the LORD your God:

          3 You will be blessed in the city and blessed in the country.

          4 The fruit of your womb will be blessed, and the crops of your land and the young of your livestock—the calves of your herds and the lambs of your flocks.

          5 Your basket and your kneading trough will be blessed.

          6 You will be blessed when you come in and blessed when you go out.

          7 The LORD will grant that the enemies who rise up against you will be defeated before you. They will come at you from one direction but flee from you in seven.

          8 The LORD will send a blessing on your barns and on everything you put your hand to. The LORD your God will bless you in the land he is giving you.

          9 The LORD will establish you as his holy people, as he promised you on oath, if you keep the commands of the LORD your God and walk in obedience to him. 10 Then all the peoples on earth will see that you are called by the name of the LORD, and they will fear you. 11 The LORD will grant you abundant prosperity—in the fruit of your womb, the young of your livestock and the crops of your ground—in the land he swore to your ancestors to give you.

          12 The LORD will open the heavens, the storehouse of his bounty, to send rain on your land in season and to bless all the work of your hands. You will lend to many nations but will borrow from none. 13 The LORD will make you the head, not the tail. If you pay attention to the commands of the LORD your God that I give you this day and carefully follow them, you will always be at the top, never at the bottom. 14 Do not turn aside from any of the commands I give you today, to the right or to the left, following other gods and serving them.
          Curses for Disobedience
          15 However, if you do not obey the LORD your God and do not carefully follow all his commands and decrees I am giving you today, all these curses will come on you and overtake you:

          16 You will be cursed in the city and cursed in the country.

          17 Your basket and your kneading trough will be cursed.

          18 The fruit of your womb will be cursed, and the crops of your land, and the calves of your herds and the lambs of your flocks.

          19 You will be cursed when you come in and cursed when you go out.

          20 The LORD will send on you curses, confusion and rebuke in everything you put your hand to, until you are destroyed and come to sudden ruin because of the evil you have done in forsaking him.[a] 21 The LORD will plague you with diseases until he has destroyed you from the land you are entering to possess. 22 The LORD will strike you with wasting disease, with fever and inflammation, with scorching heat and drought, with blight and mildew, which will plague you until you perish. 23 The sky over your head will be bronze, the ground beneath you iron. 24 The LORD will turn the rain of your country into dust and powder; it will come down from the skies until you are destroyed.

          25 The LORD will cause you to be defeated before your enemies. You will come at them from one direction but flee from them in seven, and you will become a thing of horror to all the kingdoms on earth. 26 Your carcasses will be food for all the birds and the wild animals, and there will be no one to frighten them away. 27 The LORD will afflict you with the boils of Egypt and with tumors, festering sores and the itch, from which you cannot be cured. 28 The LORD will afflict you with madness, blindness and confusion of mind. 29 At midday you will grope about like a blind person in the dark. You will be unsuccessful in everything you do; day after day you will be oppressed and robbed, with no one to rescue you.

          30 You will be pledged to be married to a woman, but another will take her and rape her. You will build a house, but you will not live in it. You will plant a vineyard, but you will not even begin to enjoy its fruit. 31 Your ox will be slaughtered before your eyes, but you will eat none of it. Your donkey will be forcibly taken from you and will not be returned. Your sheep will be given to your enemies, and no one will rescue them. 32 Your sons and daughters will be given to another nation, and you will wear out your eyes watching for them day after day, powerless to lift a hand. 33 A people that you do not know will eat what your land and labor produce, and you will have nothing but cruel oppression all your days. 34 The sights you see will drive you mad. 35 The LORD will afflict your knees and legs with painful boils that cannot be cured, spreading from the soles of your feet to the top of your head.

          36 The LORD will drive you and the king you set over you to a nation unknown to you or your ancestors. There you will worship other gods, gods of wood and stone. 37 You will become a thing of horror, a byword and an object of ridicule among all the peoples where the LORD will drive you.

          38 You will sow much seed in the field but you will harvest little, because locusts will devour it. 39 You will plant vineyards and cultivate them but you will not drink the wine or gather the grapes, because worms will eat them. 40 You will have olive trees throughout your country but you will not use the oil, because the olives will drop off. 41 You will have sons and daughters but you will not keep them, because they will go into captivity. 42 Swarms of locusts will take over all your trees and the crops of your land.

          43 The foreigners who reside among you will rise above you higher and higher, but you will sink lower and lower. 44 They will lend to you, but you will not lend to them. They will be the head, but you will be the tail.

          45 All these curses will come on you. They will pursue you and overtake you until you are destroyed, because you did not obey the LORD your God and observe the commands and decrees he gave you. 46 They will be a sign and a wonder to you and your descendants forever. 47 Because you did not serve the LORD your God joyfully and gladly in the time of prosperity, 48 therefore in hunger and thirst, in nakedness and dire poverty, you will serve the enemies the LORD sends against you. He will put an iron yoke on your neck until he has destroyed you.

          49 The LORD will bring a nation against you from far away, from the ends of the earth, like an eagle swooping down, a nation whose language you will not understand, 50 a fierce-looking nation without respect for the old or pity for the young. 51 They will devour the young of your livestock and the crops of your land until you are destroyed. They will leave you no grain, new wine or olive oil, nor any calves of your herds or lambs of your flocks until you are ruined. 52 They will lay siege to all the cities throughout your land until the high fortified walls in which you trust fall down. They will besiege all the cities throughout the land the LORD your God is giving you.

          53 Because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege, you will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the LORD your God has given you. 54 Even the most gentle and sensitive man among you will have no compassion on his own brother or the wife he loves or his surviving children, 55 and he will not give to one of them any of the flesh of his children that he is eating. It will be all he has left because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege of all your cities. 56 The most gentle and sensitive woman among you—so sensitive and gentle that she would not venture to touch the ground with the sole of her foot—will begrudge the husband she loves and her own son or daughter 57 the afterbirth from her womb and the children she bears. For in her dire need she intends to eat them secretly because of the suffering your enemy will inflict on you during the siege of your cities.

          58 If you do not carefully follow all the words of this law, which are written in this book, and do not revere this glorious and awesome name—the LORD your God— 59 the LORD will send fearful plagues on you and your descendants, harsh and prolonged disasters, and severe and lingering illnesses. 60 He will bring on you all the diseases of Egypt that you dreaded, and they will cling to you. 61 The LORD will also bring on you every kind of sickness and disaster not recorded in this Book of the Law, until you are destroyed. 62 You who were as numerous as the stars in the sky will be left but few in number, because you did not obey the LORD your God. 63 Just as it pleased the LORD to make you prosper and increase in number, so it will please him to ruin and destroy you. You will be uprooted from the land you are entering to possess.

          64 Then the LORD will scatter you among all nations, from one end of the earth to the other. There you will worship other gods—gods of wood and stone, which neither you nor your ancestors have known. 65 Among those nations you will find no repose, no resting place for the sole of your foot. There the LORD will give you an anxious mind, eyes weary with longing, and a despairing heart. 66 You will live in constant suspense, filled with dread both night and day, never sure of your life. 67 In the morning you will say, “If only it were evening!” and in the evening, “If only it were morning!”—because of the terror that will fill your hearts and the sights that your eyes will see. 68 The LORD will send you back in ships to Egypt on a journey I said you should never make again. There you will offer yourselves for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you.

          • All if you just believe… Now do see the ancient propaganga? The original mind control? The most basic of all basic people farming?

            Kill, rape, steel, plunder… whatever your forgiven, but if you don’t believe you are damned forever.

            It was perfect, it was genius, but it has failed every last one of us and lead a straight path into hell on Earth.


          • Christ fulfilled the Old Covenental/Levitical Law, and thus freed those we believe on Him from all of the OC Law. The purpose of the Levitical/Mosaic law is ONLY to lead people to Christ.

            The New Covenenant Law is to love unequivocally and without expecting anything in return, to love as did Christ, to love those who hate us and despise us.

            BTW, the land of Israel is a physical type signifying a spiritual land not built with hands, the Kingdom of God within believers. There is no blessing at all for anyone outside of Christ. Jews benefit nothing from their alleged relationship to Abraham. The true sons and daughters of Abraham are those who have Abraham’s faith, not his blood. Christ calls the Hebrew Pharisees sons of the devil, not spiritual sons of Abraham.

            There are two Israel, and the physical Israel of the OT ceased to exist in 70AD when the Romans destroyed the temple, never to be rebuilt. For instance, Deuteronomy 16:16 orders every Hebrew male to visit the temple 3x per year. Nowhere are they freed of this commandment, so in effect, there is no such thing as the Hebrew race of the OT.

            The so-called “jews” in Israel are imposters (see Rev 2:9 and 3:9). They are fakes, they are sons of the devil as are every non-believer who has been born again in Christ.

            • excuse me, “NOT” born of Christ.

            • Listen, you are only making my point for me.

              All your information comes strickly from one book.

              If one wants to know the real stories one must open their mind and read, watch and listen to information from the ancient texts, documentaries, archeological finds, and all the other religious and non-religious texts such as the Koran (qur’an), Sutras, pyramid texts, Ugarit, Sanatana Darma, Philososphy, Pentateush, Christ in Egypt and many more.

              You religious folks are what is know as lazy learners. You are told, and that is that.

              What you say in your message is proof thereof; it is time now, to open up your hearts and minds to the future of humanity: a nonselfish look at reality. The whole of religion today is selfish through and through, from heaven to salvation.

              Once we all have the same tools to work with, conflict between the myriad of religions will cease to exist as we become spiritual humans, something lost with the genocidal actions towards the Native Americans.

              If we all know the same information, how could you imagine any strife? No, I do not speak of perfection or utopia; neither can exist nor shall we ever strive for perfection. It is however, our duty to strive for utility and peace amungst our brothers and sisters, exactly what the founding fathers of the Bible and current government did not want – they want segrigative conflict to keep us from uniting.

              It is time we all learned, now, for humanities sake. Because the time is comming where those not informed with all the knowledge, will suffer the evolutionary fate of extinction while the new spirtual human takes over the responsiblities neglected for so long now.

          • Do I have to pay to read this book? I didn’t read it…

            • If you speak of the Bible, you did kind of miss out then. Mostly on a great STORY, but indeed some wonderful wisdom that still and will allways hold true.

              I recomend you read it – your message is rather vague… – whether you believe in the divine nature of the Bible or not.

              If you believe, read it because your idiot hypocrytical punk if you don’t.

              If you don’t believe it, read it for both it’s irreligious ammunition (so easy to find), and the previoously mentioned wisdom it does contain.

          • You forgot them most important one. “God helps those who help themselves.” Buy. More. Lead.

            • That is just the perfect example of shelfishness is it not.

              The meaning of life folks is not a selfish desire to enter a non-exsistent utopia, it is to continue life.

              No one is certain why we are here, but it is certain that selfishness will be the end for many.

              The phrase also encompases the reason “blind faith” exists, and a FULL education is shunned by the religious. Just beleive (in control) and all your wishes will be granted.

              It is wake up time, it is time to open up your eyes, and rise, and shine! (Tom Petty)

            • Not selfish to want utopia,also you can still have babies there,but maybe not in America in the future, it will be against the law ha ha,what are we coming to.

        • I’ve seen some of the documentaries of this though the book I’m sure is better detailed, The canibalism, the baking and eating of dirt and the tremendous numbers of dead. Thanks for the heads up, I think I’ll pick that up.

        • Just finished “City of Thieves” and he referenced “The 900 Days”. I think I’ll have to read it.

      8. Can you say, layout-bugout-hideout ten times really fast?

        Doesn’t matter, have a plan, stick to it as best as possible, and stay out of the way!

        I still have optimism they cannot gain control after the fact, because they are not in control now, which is plainly obvious.

        I’m probably wrong, so optimism aside, layout-bugout-hideout.

      9. Would not be surprised to see ‘Green Zones’ where the military would provide security. Any major city with a military base nearby could fall into this catagory. ‘Red Zones’ would be the ‘Wild West’ where the rest of us will have to fend for ourselves. For those living in a heavily populated area, sandbagging the room you sleep in may save your life. Drive by shootings could become prevalent where law & order breaks down.
        Good Luck To All

        • That is a new scenario!

          New to me? Thanks,

        • God I pray I am NOT in a green zone

          • Well then BJ if you find yourself in an occupied Green Zone,get you rifle out and make it into a Red Zone with the occupiers blood of course 😉

            • Net Ranger – No need.

              When you all finally recognize that your God is neither good, humane, sane, present, waiting, comming, helping, loving, happy, providing, nor accepting, you will come out at your own free will.

              Ready to put down the tyrannous, murderous, hateing, raping, inscestual, insane, evil, condemning, mean, twisted, narcisistic man-made book of conflict and join hands with your fellow human.

              The beauty is that we have the chance as intellectual and critical human beings to anylize from a distance and with the knowledge of mind-control techniques the most basic underlying principles of good, to finally and unequivocally start the web of universality and peace within.

              If you are confident in yourself as a human being, you will ask me what that means. If you are psycological follower (group think) you will not.

              If you DESIRE a better way, you will find it. If you do not, you have already found what you are looking for.

              Think about it, juss juss think about it. The only sin great enough to condemn you is to not believe; so let us say you keep your faith in your God, but, sin for a few days and look deeper into a few irreligious texts and information. Let us say, astrology. Any good Christian preacher would condemn such material as evil right? Well, as you may already know, the Bible is astrology. One example of many dozens which everyone knows is Mark 14:13.

              I assure you and all, sin for a few days and according to your Bible you will still be saved if that is what you want to beleive. Sin for a few days and educate yourself.

              Take no one word on anything, use no opinion only assesments, and open your heart to true salvation, real freedom, desired comfort, and unconditional enlightenment.

              You can allways go back, the Bible says so, you will just need to redue your ritual bath is all.

        • Aren’t you glad we have lots of sand Wheedle. Personally I don’t want to be on a street where anyone can just drive by. I prefer a 400 yard perimeter. At very lease I want to control the street 400 yard in each direction.

        • How would you classify a city nearby Centcom?

      10. I agree with God’s Creation. We’ve all seen the videos of these so called FEMA camps. When the money runs out and the cocoapuffers have no place to live and nothing to eat, they’ll be housed into camps where they can be watched. These roving gangs that rush into stores and steal will be shot on site. I don’t think shops owners are going to stand for their wares and products to be stolen. It’s coming and the sheeple will gladly go to these camps because it’s FREE!

        Don’t get on that train or the bus – stay off the big white bus, you may become another victim of these government camps. Beans, bullets and bandaids.

        • Sheeple check in, but they don’t check out (alive).

          • Welcome to the Hotel California.

      11. Its what an occupying force does. …and believe me, they are occupiers. The Republic of the uSA is standing by with $18 trillion in gold to pick up the pieces.

        Read how and when the second American revolution took place and see how we lost. We’re ready and we’re waiting. When your corporate government finally shoots itself in the foot for the last time, we will peacefully return to our rightful place of governance before it was stolen from you.

        Read the full story at:

      12. I DISAGREE !!! if they are setting the stage for violence in this country then they are doing a horrible job of it !!!

        • Ever know the government to do a good job of anything?

          • so then why make a big stink about it then because they will fail at this just like everything else they do !!

      13. Society’s breakdown is starting to accelerate. I live in a nice middle to upper class suburb and the crime has doubled in the past year. I wish I lived in the country.

        • You can wish in one hand and shit in the other, only one will fill-up!

        • Crime is bad in the country too. I have a family member who lives in rural Ohio and he is scared to go on vacation because he keeps getting robbed. Sometimes he has stuff stolen while he’s home! Tools, lawn equipment, stuff out of his truck, etc.

        • I leave the sillouhetes and bullseyes stuck in the front yard. Its bad medicine to rob a house that has targets at 50ft, 100ft and 150ft IN THE FRONT YARD.

          • Funny, funny, funny! Somehow though, I doubt that you’re kidding. Great idea. Later on a few hung looters will do the same trick!

      14. “Plus, I can tell readers that the US government is currently constructing dozens of interrogation and detention centers all along America’s northern border. I can tell you this because I have spoken with people involved in the construction of these centers, and I have seen the classified plans detailing the specifics of these centers (and, no, I will not divulge my sources).”

        Army posture plan 2004: … “and to fulfill the DoD Civil Disturbance Plan.” (Go look it up. You can find it.)

        From Army Capstone Concept (excerpts):

        to support civil authorities at home

        and respond to civil crises at home

        Compel. The use or threat of lethal force to establish control, effect behavioral change, or enforce compliance with mandates, agreements, or civil authority.

        Control. The imposition of civil order. Actions to establish control include securing borders, routes, sensitive sites, population centers, and individuals. Control may involve physically occupying key terrain and facilities.

        Influence. The shaping of opinions and attitudes of a civilian population through information engagement, presence, and conduct. Influence is particularly difficult to achieve and measure.

        Support. The establishment or strengthening of conditions necessary for other instruments of national power to function effectively.

        Cooperate with partners. Army leaders must also seek to integrate the activities of interagency, intergovernmental, multinational, and private sector partners into Army operations.

        Similarly, the other agencies possess unique capabilities (such as police and criminal investigation skills, national-level intelligence analysis, institutional development skills, financial expertise, and expertise in the rule of law). To achieve effective integration of complementary interagency capabilities based on policy guidance and the joint force commander’s concept of the operation, Army leaders must possess broad knowledge to place military efforts in context and must be comfortable serving on civil military teams.

        Operating Concept (excerpts):

        the requirement to work cooperatively and collectively with local, state, and Federal law enforcement agencies becomes critical to success.

        Military and civilian agencies require common understanding of the policies and procedures, the legal aspects which limit actions, and the roles of the respective partners. Interoperability of equipment, policy, and regulatory compatibility and common training in planning processes are all important factors in achieving unity of effort. Some of these issues can be identified and addressed through exercises and exchanges to develop understanding of capabilities and limitations. Leader development must include education on the roles of the military and other government agencies in homeland defense and civil support.

        Army forces conducting homeland defense and civil support missions require extensive integration and must coordinate closely with multiple local civil and law enforcement authorities.

        When operating on U.S. soil, leaders and Soldiers must understand the legal authorities and caveats related to military operations such as those pertaining to collecting and maintaining information on and detaining U.S. citizens.

        You can go to DoD websites and find this stuff. It just takes time … and there is more there than what I have given you.

        Now I need to clean out my computer.

        • Is your colon balanced?

      15. Just when I was arming up trying out the new G17 and 32 round sticks. Egypt has to go and recall its Ambassador to Israel. Don’t they usually do that when they break diplomatic relations or go to war?

        The funny thing is none of the networks are talking about it. Is the middle east getting ready to Light up?

        Just like two of the biggest kids on the block are about to fight in the middle east, so is the class warfare about to start here.

        Its a set up so the NWO can come in and save us. They, The Government really have no clue what they are doing or the retribution that will come against them.

        Sleep well while you can. The the shit is about to hit the fan.

        • Of course it’s about to light up!! Muslim Brotherhood effectively controls Egypt now and Iran is about to get a nuke or two… and they already have the means to deliver the warhead to Israel. Yeah, 2012 is going to be real interesting.

          • Hey! Captain! Hows that rustbucket flying these days? (I’m a fan!)

            • Ain’t all buttons and charts, little albatross. Know what the first rule of flying is? Well I s’pose you do, since you already know what I’m ’bout to say. Love. Can know all the math in the ‘verse but take a boat in the air that you don’t love? She’ll shake you off just as sure as a turn in the worlds. Love keeps her in the air when she oughtta fall down…tell you she’s hurtin’ ‘fore she keens…makes her a home.

              I couldn’t think of a better nom de guerre for posting here!

              Serenity out…

              Mal 🙂

        • The Middle East is about ready to light up. Assad isn’t going to take any crap and he’s not the good little dictator quadaffi is. He will start something with Israel, get Iran to join in, and then Egypt. If we stick our nose in it watch n.Korea start up with south and Venezuelan troops take out columbias US propped govt and then continue North.

          BHO won’t use nukes and they’ll crank up the 3rd WW while Russia and China sit back and study our ” responses”

          • I’m still amazed it Sunday afternoon and still no coverage on the recall of the Egyptian Ambassador from Israel. Its funny this is Gien Beck’s Restoring Courage week and he has not reported it.

            • Do you think that is starting?
              My opinion is that we may see a new religious war.
              We Christians, against the muslims.
              And Israel is the last frontier. What a weird times ahead.

      16. Yeah …. They’re ready! Once the green light to “GO” is given, something’s going to happen to ignite the worlds biggest tinder box. Be it big or small and who knows where …. Maybe it’ll just be the stock markets complete crash on Monday? Once it starts, it’s going to be like a forest fire, it’ll be impossible to put it out and it’s going to spread EVERYWHERE!
        When? Within next 4-5 weeks. Why? Because once winter starts “they” will be forced to wait till 2012 or until weather clears enough to use all that fancy equipment to find monitor and capture you. Get ready to receive your Verizon (Veri) Chip Implant any day now. Once you have it …. It’s game over for you I’m afraid. No more running and hiding, no more prepping. No more opinions on sites like this. You have all been monitored for years ….. And now it’s time to lock everyone down.
        You have a right to be scared, you have the right to be totally terrified.

        TIMES UP CONTESTANTS! Which hand to you want your micro chip in!!! Left or right!!!

        Good decent military people and even policemen will be given the choice, do your jobs and carry out your orders, or we’ll impound your family!!! Don’t want to do you duty? Well let’s drive you down to “the camp” to see your children behind the barbed wire to provide you with some job motivation. Oh look, there’s your wife and mom and dad ….and your wife’s parents. Don’t they look great in orange jumpsuits? Now get back to work or they’ll all be terminated!!
        You don’t have rights any more!! It’s over!! You and your family are corporate property. And if you don’t comply we’ll let you survive for just long enough on your own before we come round you up ….. Keep writing complaints on the computer? Don’t worry, we know who you are and where you live!!!

        • Times Up!:

          Just who is the “we”? Who do you think is going to be able to walz into base housing and round up military families and cart them off? Will they round them all up at once? Are you saying senior military leaders will be complicit in this? You would have to bring in a f*ckload of mercenaries and foreign troops for this to be remotely possible. Sorry, I just don’t see this playing out like that. Even if something like this was contemplated by the government, word would leak out almost immediately. No, the military can’t be completely controlled by an upstart totalitarian government.
          You tell me how your scenario is possible and I will consider it, but… I am skeptical.


          • OK my scenario is a little too stretched. How about if the military started enforcing access to all base facilities to all family members, including base housing areas. No chip-no access. It takes a couple seconds to chip a dog or a cat, so humans aren’t a challenge. How do you get compliant soldiers! Easy, just deny them and their families access to pay, benefits, medical and facilities by red flagging a particular chip code. And of course if you don’t accept the chip, then you’re out of a job. Chips are a reality not a possibility. My two dogs are chipped and each chip for them has more than 1 gig of data room. For a dog!!! Not bad for a small device no bigger than a grain of rice.

            I have ID cards with my retina scanned and holographically printed on the card …. Along with an embedded chip ….. AND a 3D scan of my head and shoulders imprinted onto the card as well. That was 2005!!! Not so new technology really. Seeing as how people are in fact quietly being chipped already ….. ID cards are becoming very old school already.

            As for mercenaries (security contractors) there are more than a couple hundred thousand
            around the globe from dozens of countries. Some security companies have training facilities in Tennessee, Georgia, North Carolina and Virginia …. That I know of.

            Sadly there are nite clubs offering free chipping in several countries including the US. You might be able to upload $$ from your bank account to save taking a wallet or purse out with you …. But rest assured …… There’s plenty of room on those chips for uploading all your other documents and details.

            Like my name imply’s Times up! Actually …. It’s too late to turn back.

            • No, it ain’t if you are computer literate and know RFID..

            • The Govt will never have to put chips in peoples bodies, we already carry them around “freely” (cell phones).

        • What is scary about your Veri-Chip suggestion is that it is not too far off. There is already technology that exists Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) being used at some exclusive resorts to allow members access and to pay for whatever while they are there.
          I think it will be coming in the future where this “new tech” is advertised as the wave of the future to ensure “secure” banking transactions, driver licensure, etc.
          The terrifying part of this is that most sheeple will buy right in and have their new “ID” chip put into their skin willingly.

          • I suspect they will require the chip in order for us to acquire health care…since the plan is for the gov to control all the healthcare, all Americans will eventually be required to be chipped…. Ten years from now you may very well be considered a kook for arguing that you have a right to not be chipped….

            • I will be able to answer to your thoughts around January 2012. It’s the possible beginning of the new id cards here.
              They will have the size of a credit card and a magnetic area will record and hold all personal data.
              I think it will be easily misused and manipulated by whomever wants to do harm.
              Just imagine having a card with your medical record, and you try to find a job or try to make a life insurance.
              The only good thing is that people start to resist and to be honest the Greek church is a good assistant to this effort.

            • Just don’t voluntarily take it in the right hand or the forehead.. just sayin..

            • I’ll dig that sucker out..even if i have to do it with a dull spoon!

            • Revelation 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
              Revelation 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
              Revelation 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. (666)

              Revelation 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
              Revelation 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
              Revelation 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
              Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

              Do not get the mark!!!!!!
              You will be cast into Hell and Tormented forever and ever!!!!!
              This goes for Christians also!!!!!

          • Oh, I forgot to add, all those hundreds of thousands of foreign “contractors” (Canada, UK, Aust, NZ, South Africa, (white) Zimbabwae, former Yougoslavia, former Legioneirs ect ect) were and still are issued DOD ID’s to work in countries like Iraq and Afghanistan these last 8 years. So they are still in and on the system data base as working for the Dpartment of Defence. Instant army? You betcha!! They Could easily be recalled for “work” or a “new contract” to work in a matter of days, or even hours. And with jobs gettin hard to come by in that industry, or for that matter anywhere in the world ….. Well you do your own math and soul searching on this lil tidbit of info.

          • The Govt will never have to put chips in peoples bodies, we already carry them around “freely” (cell phones).

      17. to spark violence in this country all they need to do is ban guns. It will spak a civil war. Add to that the current problems and you don’t need the scare tactics that have been smoothered upon us lately. Hollywood churns out movies about pandemdics, ET invasions, end of the world, ect.

        • That is a civil war they can’t win

          • Not true. We are but the first wave. According to the bible we are but a delaying force.
            They will get their one world everything, your grand kids will get chipped.

            And Jesus will return
            Then and only then will We win the final victory

            thebronze says:
            August 21, 2011 at 3:49 pm

            Ron Paul is a kook, but he may be right about this.

            He is far from a kook. He is the last patriot.
            His views fall inline with my WWII parents views. We were lied to, they were lied to.

            Like Kennedy, Ron Paul is what a president needs to be. A Constitutionalist.

        • If you want to see a civil war begin all that has to happen is for a reparations law to be enacted.
          I never owned slaves and no one alive today was an American slave. I will not give money for something I did not do to someone who it did not happen to.

          • This is part of the problem,they will pit young against old,black against white,just to keep you off guard.It’s about “the haves” wanting to keep “the have-nots” down.
            No one owes anyone reparations for anything.Get the big picture.

      18. yep. the crap is hitting the fan and the velocity is picking up speed…can feel the tension in the air and see it in the faces of alot of folks already. this is the time to pay attention to every little thing that is going on around you and react appropriately…beans, bandaids, and bullets.

        • “Tension in the air”…you’re not kidding. I was stopped at a traffic light 5 miles from my house; when the light changed, the 18-wheeler behind me rammed the back of my car. Not once, not twice, but THREE TIMES. I drive an older model Buick with thick bumpers so I wasn’t hurt. I chased him down the highway, horn blaring. When he finally pulled over, he came back to my car and asked me what was wrong! Had a shaved head and a wild look about him. The insurance adjuster who issued the repair estimate said he’s seen so much road rage in the past several months it’s unbelievable. Scary times we’re living in…

      19. Go to youtube and type in: Police State in America or FEMA Camps or American Concentration Camps…..scarry stuff.

      20. Quit watching the boob tube. Stay tuned to the radio. Traffic reports may be the first warning you have that something is up. Stay in touch with your network of friends. Alert them if you spot anything. Have friends on the police, fire and public works departments. Have friends at the National Guard. Have a go bag in your car. Always have firepower at hand. Don’t panic. Be alert. Traffic control devices can be ignored if need be. He who fights and runs away, lives to fight another day.

      21. IMO a good example of how the powers that be pre-condition us for martial law. Take the very popular TV show NCIS Los Angeles….in almost every episode the young handsome law enforcement stars of the show have horrific shootouts in broad daylight and in crowded LA, aiming at targets with handguns 200′ away and farther. They condition us to believe this is normal and expected behavior. Oh, except no innocents ever get hit no the show, something quite unlike what will be the case in reality. About 50% of those hit in cop shootouts are victims of friendly fire, especially other cops.

        • It is time we stopped using IMO, and replace it with IMA.

          Opinions mean nothing, assesments hold the light of the world. Educated descions.

      22. If the feds tear up the Constitution and start rounding people up into detention camps, there will be another civil war. GUARANTEED. Each person in the military takes an oath to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. They do not blindly serve the President. Most officers lean strongly toward the right/libertarian side of the political spectrum. A majority of them will fight to preserve the Constitution and our way of life… if it comes to that.

        Marc Faber is still predicting civil unrest and riots, and I believe Jim Rogers said something similar just last week/month. It scares the crap out of me when you’ve got well respected economists saying on TV that riots are coming and that they’re buying up farmland and gold. Wow! Just… wow… It’s even scarier that the response from the vast majority of people is a yawn. When are folks going to wake up? Probably when it’s too late. It always seems to play out that way, doesn’t it?

        Time for a bourbon.


        • I have a lot of friends in the military and they’ve told me that most military personel have no idea what the constitution even says. They blindly serve whoever signs their paycheck and most dispise civilians.

          • ‎”I find in existence a . . . dangerous concept that the members of the armed forces owe their primary allegiance and loyalty to those who temporarily exercise the authority of the executive branch of the Government, rather than to the country and its Constitution they are sworn to defend. No proposition could be more dangerous.” ~ General Douglas MacArthur

      23. IMO, adding “music” like the awful computer generated crap in the video only makes it more like a cartoon and minimizes the seriousness of the subject. Stupid, unnecessary, terrible, bad…Some subjects don’t require emotional enhancement and this is one of them.

      24. We can’t blame all of the problems with the ratings downgrade on the Dems. The extremists on both sides–the liberals and the right wing nut jobs can both take credit. That being said, it does not bode well for the future. I’m from Iowa and the circus here is just beginning. It goes without saying that Mitt Romney is a disaster, but many people on the right are being fooled by Michelle Bachman. She is no patriot.

        • The Dems are just liberals, but the Repubs are right wing nut jobs? I guess we can tell which side of the political spectrum you’re from. He who controls the lexicon, controls the debate.

          • It’s nothing but a game. Every four years the American people are presented with a stage play, the act is always the same, the actors may change, but they are all reading from the same script. The two parties take there respective turn at the stage, each playing their part. The American people think they are voting for some sort of change but, in reality, the only thing that changes are the actors, bought and paid for, to set the stage, play their part and ensure that their acting is real enough for the American people to once again believe that what they are saying is actually true! The Republicans and Democrats are nothing more than two sides of the same worthless coin!

      25. For those of you who listened to the Nathan Leal/Steve Quayle broadcast this past week, this is the third witness that Steve was waiting for.
        Listen to this first if you have not already (from 8/16/11) at

        As he says, take it to the Lord in prayer.

        Prepare Now Before It Is Too Late

        August 4, 2011
        Kevin Barrett

        Greetings in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

        Tonight while praying the Lord has given me a message to get out to His people with a strong urgency. It is profound and I admit that I am hesitant to send this out. Though He has told me that if I do not tell this message to His people then their blood will be upon my head. So as long as I get this word out, it is no longer upon my head and each person can take this to be a word from Him or not. It is then the responsibility of each individual if they will heed or not.

        Word from the Lord:

        PREPARE. Prepare even physically for what is at your doorstep America. Destruction shall suddenly come upon this land and many will be running to and fro seeking shelter from this calamity. Prepare now for a time of sudden darkness and terror. Supplies and food will stop suddenly as everyone is seeking to save their own lives. Seek me now that you may be hidden in me on this day of calamity. Yes, it is wise to store up food and supplies now. For suddenly this will happen. It will not be total disaster nor total destruction of America. But it will be sudden change in life as you know it. Seek me now and hear what I would have each of you to do. Some will be told to move suddenly, others I will say to you to stay. Seek me and know that your only safety is in me. Seek me now. I urge you, PREPARE! PREPARE NOW! For soon it will be too late to prepare when this thing happens suddenly. But do not fear. You will see many running in fear. But my people, I will protect. Read my word. Did I not protect the Israelites in Goshen while I brought destruction upon Egypt? Seek me and enquire of me what commands I have for each of you for your safety and supplies. And do not be afraid, but trust in your God. My hand is not too short that it cannot protect even the hairs on your head. But you must repent and seek me now. Stop what you are doing. Stop your entertainments and listen to the stillness of the wind. For surely it is the quietest right before sudden destruction. Do not listen to the prophets that speak peace and safety. They speak lies for the itching ears and to fatten their pockets. Seek me for what I would truly say to my people this day. And I would say repent, repent of your relaxed ways and rend your heart to the one and only true God. For there is sudden destruction coming upon this land and it will cover all very quickly. Only those with a prepared heart will not be taken by surprise and they shall praise their God in the midst of this sudden destruction. So I say PREPARE! Rend your hearts to me now and be saved from the sudden calamity that is sure to come.

        • BJ,
          Thanks for your prophetic words. I have also been lead by the Lord to begin preparing for “something”. I don’t fear it and I’m not afraid, but I want to be prepared for it, whatever “it” is.

          • Yea, i too have been praying and felt led to prepare also, so this is right on.Not sure whats gonna happen not afraid either, my trust is in the Lord.

          • What an emmarassment, You actually gave him credit for the words he copied and pasted from someone else.

            Here here, at least I can copy and paste my own words.

            It is time now
            The time now
            Taken a beating
            Heart never quit beating
            Never gave in
            Never believed sin
            Standing tall
            Walks to the call
            A patient man
            Lived life by his plan
            Strolled to the theater
            A cross stands near
            A crowd selling fear
            A band of the belters
            Ready for a preacher
            The crowd stinks of attribution
            And the air sounds of tolling bells

            Stage center

            Behold people the beauty of existing
            The glory of a life untold
            A blank scroll exposed before humans, by humans, and from the dust
            The chance of an undying harmony
            Brought forth by the exceptional and circumstantial human conscious
            Opportunity that has been for sometime
            But will not always be available
            Now the light of the solstice can stand as itself
            No Longer the Holy Ghost but a flower
            And though flowers fade people
            Humanity needs not
            No dogmatic braking
            No ignorant faking
            No fallacy ridden
            New is pleasing and teasing so tell Francis what you are waiting for
            One will find that what leaving behind is a selfish score
            Heaven is all around people
            Patiently waiting to be found

            Under a stack of dead money
            You will find the truth
            The truth is in the heavens, the truth is in the light
            The truth provides our sights
            But truth people is vulnerable
            Truth exists as a finite unit of reality
            While fallacy reins infinite in numbers
            But fear not people for fallacy is primarily human, and fully ignorant
            Fear not the history
            Fear not the dogma or the devil
            Fear not to feed your child’s life
            For life people is yours to give at will
            Given, your credence to the one and only messiah
            The one and only definition of the Christ: the ideal type of humanity
            Of universal truth itself
            Not at war with environment
            Not at war with existence
            We are the incarnations of the universe
            We are its breath
            Gods incarnate
            But no longer by the rule of iron fisted fallaciousnous history and unknowns
            The truths shall set us free
            Universality !!!!
            Worldwide movement prepares?
            One last separation to end all separations?
            Revelations of the true war?
            The war to end all wars?
            It must not be people, it need not be
            Tell them we’re not complete
            You hear, not complete
            Transitioning under the patient hand of the water bearer is attainable
            Amendments to be respected and alteration embraced universally is “the way”
            Education, evolutions revelations
            Awakening the next generation of social stratification
            That of responsibility and contribution
            With patient persistence and enlightened offspring
            We will open the gates of heaven to all life
            Shut the gates of hell forever
            And live as the organism we are, Earth

            • Don’t be such an ass francis, I am sure it was a typo on T’s part and I never claimed the words to be my own you jerk! I only wanted to share them with some people here. If your not a believer in God and His son Jesus and His living word, that’s your business, but why do you get so riled up at those who do believe….does it bother you? Go on your way and keep your mouth shut instead of attacking those that have faith in God

            • BJ – It gets old saying the same things over and over, but, I will if it helps.

              I get so riled up because religion is the root of all of our problems today.

              Just a little bit of critical thinking will lead you in the same direction. But, you have to be a strong person to even look, which, you clearly are not.

            • Francis Le Oublieux a large majority of the world has turned away from Christ or never knew of Christ in the first place. How is that turning out right now? Im sure you’re aware of all the problems and civil unrest in the world. But God gave you free will to deny the truth if you wish.

            • your right, the only strength I have is Christ in me

      26. Don’t get into a dither folks. Lots of time left before the SHTF. LOTS of time. But it will eventually. Just keep prepping.

        Move west of the Mississippi if you can. or find a nice reservior in the Appalachians to sit it out.

        • a) Please define “LOTS OF TIME”. Year or so in your opinion? Decade? Just curious.

          b) “… something, something,… like a thief in the night… something, something.” — If you’re the religious type.


          • Mal: Lots of time depends on what kind of SHTF scenario you expect. I am not expecting another financial collapse. WE had that, but ….. consumer spending does need to pick up over the next six months.

            Christmas will tell the tale of the tape.

            If consumer spending and lending does not pick up, then there is real trouble ahead financially. The year preceding a Presidential election is usually a boom year.

            So its curious that the Retards do not want to continue the tax break for wages which would put money into the pocket of people who would spend it, while insisting on keeping the tax break for the wealthy, which hasn’t yet created any jobs.

            The gangster banksters have dumped Obummer and have a new Presidential candidate: his name is Mitt Romney, one of them, who will give them what they want. Everything they want if he becomes President.

            He won’t make it. America is smarter than that.

            Time frame? In my opinion and everyone has their own guess when, its more than a year-less than five; and that is contingent upon Israel NOT hitting Iran with a first strike.

            Right now the NWO is running the table. Libya is done, Syria next on the agenda; after Labor Day from the intelligence I get.

        • DK, Why should we be on the westside of the Miss? Also where is the best area to pan for gold or prospect in the UP of Michigan?

          • 45thM22; Ontario! 🙂 Seriously I don’t know as I am not familiar with the UP. Try this link for lots of resources:


            The SHTF will eventually come to America. Personally I believe that occurs with earth changes and a pole shift. The Ring of Fire is very active.

            Its only a matter of time before So Cal is hit with the Big One. If that were to occur while We are in financial distress, well, I will leave it to your imagination.

            There are just too many people east of the Mississippi and way too many non-preppers there as a percentage of the population.

            Westerners have always been a little more independent minded and more self reliant overall, I think, than city folk.

            Check this link for a discussion of potential earth changes. Although they have been predicted for a very long time, they appear to be in progress now.


          • We are looking at trying to get a group/community of like minded folks to joint the already existing community in Crystal Falls MI….west side of the UP

      27. Not a single comment on Kim Kardashian’s wedding. Don’t you people pay attention to the important stuff?
        Seriously though…violence may be coming to America but, other than starting the revolution now (and I’m kinda busy this weekend) all I know for us to do is stay vigilant and keep doing what we’ve been doing. Lets go through a checklist.
        *1 Beans bandaids etc. Most have some, some have lots and a few are practically fully prepped. The rest of us- just keep stacking up the rice bags, toilet paper and such. Water too of course. Everybody who’s awake at least has a start on it so let’s keep it up as long as time and money allows.
        *2 Operational security. Now is NOT the time to get lazy or haphazard with this. It’s been mentioned many times before but we all need to remind ourselves constantly- keep stacking the stuff and keep keeping our mouths shut. There are some people we have to trust, just make sure that trust is well placed.
        *3 Personal security. Some have lots of guns and the knowledge to properly use them. Others have a rusty slingshot with a broken rubber band. Keep doing whatever your common sense tells you to do for safety. Including a realistic evaluation of your home security.(windows, doors should at least be stout enough to stop a criminal if not the golden horde.) Ammo, properly stored, lasts a long time and if you find yourself 20 yrs from now with a ton of it left, it’ll probablly still have great trade value. So stock up. Or at least get a new rubber band for that slingshot. Above all, please don’t think that weapons should be the only focus of your plans.
        *4 Communications and information gathering. This area is not mentioned as much as the others, but it’s important too. Think about how you might contact friends and family post shtf and then work toward that end. Short wave and even cb radios (get ’em peaked to put out more power) can be useful. Imagine no internet, no land line or cell phones and look for alternatives. Short wave will also be vital for getting reliable news if the tv is out or totally controlled by the gov propagandists.
        *5 Dealing with the unknown. This is a biggie. Most of us have probably gone through the mental exercise of thinking through a thousand different scenarios and how we would react. That ok. In fact, it’s probably a good idea to have as many options as possible. Just don’t get too hung up on one or two of them to the point of obsession. After all, the odds of any of our imagined events happening just the way we planned is close to zero. The goal is to be as flexible as we can and to be able to carry out an alternate plan(bug in, bug out, double up with friends, leave the country, whatever) if the need arises, AND to remember that the odds of that are still pretty low.
        Another part of dealing with the unknown is the pre-collapse events. BIG changes and events are already happening and more big ones will probably happen before the actual shtf. We see it as a major change and yet life goes on and we’re trying to function normally because all hell hasn’t broke loose. Certainly the PTB would love to take us all the way down in small steps with never a squeak from the sheeple. Most of us believe that we will eventually reach a tipping point, we just don’t know what or when that is. Meantime, remember to give yourself credit for the adjustments you’ve already made. We’ve come this far down the yellow brick road and we’re still here. Try to spend some time with people who will encourage you. We’re not alone in this. Which brings up point number…
        *6 Remember to enjoy life. If you have a religious faith, or if it’s just an internal code of ethics without the religion, now is a good time to strengthen that and build on it in positive ways. We’re only here for a little while, so lets take every opportunity to respect those that deserve it, forgive the ones that don’t, laugh at ourselves, and love one another. I’ve tried paranoia ans cynicism and the ‘enjoy life’ routine works much better.

        • Goodness gracious, have you seen Lyndsey Lohan’s new doo? Very seventyish! All the other girls on her old cellblock are just dying for her secret.

        • Kim KarTRASHian

          • Can I take the “trash” out ?

      28. “””They Are Setting the Stage for Violence In This Country””””

        I keep wondering who “‘they”” is. MY county government,my town government, the local police dept.the state police, the American military, or is it just a couple Federal Depts.Who is they? I know who we are and there’s probably over 220 million of us, that don’t leave very many theys.

        • All of them will JM, if not most. It will be automatic, being under the guise of “keeping the peace”. Some will know and turn away from it but some will gladly accept it because its greater newfound power.

        • Aliens.

          Haven’t you been watching TV? “THEY” are always aliens. And they have anal probes. Devilish bastards. They knew right where to hit us… In the ass!!!

      29. First, live in a state with a GOP Gov. and when it goes bad he can call up the national guard and the people can bring there guns and protect your state from the feds. That is what a republic means. State Rights

        • And I just read the trend for states to BLOCK federal laws and interference.

      30. About 3 days ago I asked my wife if she had ever heard
        the term ‘sheeple’. She had not! She is a school
        teacher. I’ve been studying and prepping now for
        several years, and she knows, but she still doesn’t
        believe or understand the underlying reasons. To her,
        I’M the one who’s a little bit out in left field.

        Remember Rambo: He walked into a small town, innocently,
        and was harassed by local LEO’s. THEY set the stage for
        violence…however, HE’s the one who turned the tables on
        them, using the tools and training THEY provided!

        • It was a MOVIE.

      31. We’re getting closer and closer to the complete economic collapse of the US. We’re going to see hyperinflation like Germany had in the 1920s. Governments on all levels will go bankrupt–city, county, state, and federal. All governmental services will stop. The dollar will be worthless. 90% of Americans will starve or die in the violence. Sorry, I can’t get excited about the possibility of FEMA putting 50,000 people away.

      32. On the local news, heard about a coal company that is shutting down – due to the govt. refusing new permits. Hmmm…govt. regulations closing coal companies and now (EPA branch) closing power plants. Plan on electricity and other utility costs to rise. Many people are already struggling to pay their bills. This will only make things worse.

        I saw this on Drudge Report this morning.


      33. Check out This is how the news should be covered. A mayor gets kidnapped, tortured and killed. The news shows the body up close. Including the results of the horrific torture. No spin on that news. In your face sheep. Then maybe, just maybe the sheep would get an idea how bad the concept of an open border with Mexico is. I check that website every day. The attrocities never end. When US MSM covers any news event, you can’t even tell what happened, it’s so white washed.

        • Check out the M3 Report too. You can subscribe to it and have it eMailed. It’s a compilation of news from messico and S America. REALLY really violent hideous stuff going on in that shit hole. I wish that failed narco state would break off and float away. What goes on down there causes me to lose sleep some nights….like I don’t have enough to worry about here…

      34. I have been wondering why LE has appeared to be so passive, and seemingly uncaring, about some of the black on white hate crimes ( Chicago, Wiscoinsin )….. and why the cops would call the looting of stores simple shoplifting (when 30 freekjobs bum rush a store, blatantly stealing everything not tied down)

        I have been wondering why this get no press/media attention.

        Then is become clear.
        The first step was consolidation of press/media. Until the mid 1990s there was limit on media ownership. One company could not own more than 7am 7fm and 7TV stations…. In the mid 1990s they dropped these limits..and today 3-5 companies own all media outlets… and now I understand why they did that.

        This is all kind of sad. When “someone” looks back on this in 80 years it will be obvious how it went down… and they will call us stupid for allowing it to happen … just like we call common Germans stupid for allowing Hitler to rise to power… in retrospect it will be clear…. aka hindsight is 20/20

        • The liberal mayors only hire “yes men or yes women” as chiefs. It’s the chief and the mayor who determine police policy. The rank and file coppers have to do what their told. For the most part.

      35. “Violence is coming to America” ha! That’s like coals coming to Newcastle.

        I don’t think we need to get too conspiratorial on this one. I think we’re looking at a garden variety global economic collapse, exacerbated by a few other upleasantries, like climate change affecting food production. The gubmint seems to be setting the stage for dealing with mass riots, rather than instigating mass riots. The net effect for us may be just as bad, but be careful about how much omniscient power you think gubmint types have — after all, they’re just a bunch of assholes who happen to have an army. They don’t own a magic wand, and they suffer from idiocy and incompetence just like the rest of us. They’ll likely be just as scared and overwhelmed, too.

        • You must be an eternal optimist. To think Obama and the NWO are going to be overwhelmed by a system they created is just about as likely as Ole’ Billy boy Clinton not knowing what to do with a cigar when the interns are in the White House.

          • What’s so bad about a li’l optimism? Ever hear what happened when Pandora opened her box? How about Frankenstein’s monster?

            Don’t be so quick to quiver because they’ve got plans and scary weapons. No battle plan survives first contact with the enemy, and military weapons have a way of turning against those who wield them.

      36. Just a few questions / observations.. if such things are planned and I do not discount that they may well be; why would the “powers that be” allow RP to say such things ( and many others ) openly ? Isn’t the first rule of controlling a mob or riot to gain the upper hand as quickly as possible while incurring the least amount of damage to your controlling forces ? Why allow “advertising” ? Why allow advance notice when preventing such advance notice would be very simple and in the best interest of your plan ? If the object of your control is aware that you are seeking control; getting that control will be far harder and costly than if everything occured by “surprise”. As in most things, the most obvious answer to a question is usually the correct one.

        • Sam,

          If all hell breaks loose before the 2012 elections then HR 645 or a form of could be implemented and so RP and others would be rounded up as they showed up for work etc etc and either sent to re-education or they were in on it and moved to safer locations for the super elite… The best time to strike will be sometime from dusk until dawn ( not the movie ok guys) and usually in the winter time when the weather is the harshest, because the strategy would be hit em when the services are cut off ( electricity and gas) and they are half asleep which by then all major transportation roads are already secured with heavy ordnance and the more advance team can go neighborhood to neighborhood it easier to move troops and equipment at night then during the day….but that’s just a thought…do you play chess?

          • de oppresso liber. Caught you!

          • My thoughts exactly. Chess players think numerous moves ahead and that is Barry’s play in all this……he and his people are planning a grand masters’ chess game and it is working perfectly so far.

        • They have been using a systematic campaign of vilifying everything the man has said or simply ignoring his existence. As a result, they can label this another crackpot idea from Ron Paul or just simply ignore it and assume no one will pay any attention to it.

      37. I have noticed that there is brand new U.S. Border Patrol building/detention center with a large barbed wire fence around it located just outside of Grand Forks, ND by the airport ( yes they have an airport ). Anyway that site has been up for about 3 years and it has been virutually empty. I have never seen anything happening there while driving past going to a relative’s house from time to time. I find it very strange that a multi million dollar facility just sites there idle and not used? Either that’s a severe waste of tax payer money or they are preparing for something.

      38. Americans better be ready to fight or die ! Remember before they do fema camp indoctrinations, thier first must be the conditions to impose it on the peopel .that environment will be of high unemploymnet, 1/3 of the Nation on foodstamps,Were involved in yet another War, Market collapse. were only one event away from teh change to occur .Other Nations around the world are geting together to talk bout Global Government and a Global currency .Folks, things wont get better .You cant eat an elephant in a day so that means this will be a systematic approach .These things will occur in waves so as to not cause a rapid toatal collpase but a planned and calculated one . Little by little things will occur to which the public wil have to deal with it .We all know the Japanese reacters were destoyed the first several days and after 6 months they finally admit they were destroyed aso they are using information as a weapon by relaesing it slowly and delaying it and even not even stateing it .Expect more and more lies to be told to those tickling ears. thier going to shut the door when conditions are so bad and the people are so poor and dependant on government that many will gladly go to Camp Fema for thier free meals, booster shots and medical care .The old will especially folow and the young will to .Imagine the price of medication in a collapse event , many wont get it and die from from lack of haveing it .Anyway you look at it what will occur will occur because its allready in play . Remember ,If your white, middle aged, christian and don’t like the way government is runnign, Then you are a TERRORIST and a Right Wing militant ! They got you labeled now so thier plans and actions are occuring ,hope you realsie that ? Heil Hitler ,whoops i mean Heil Sotoro !

      39. Ron Paul is a kook, but he may be right about this.

        • If you gave it any real thought, Ron paul is the only one in Gov who is not a kook

          • Ron Paul may be a key chess peice, look at the moves that have taken place and see who/whats left on the table and what the next move may be

      40. I read this and it sent chills up my spine, especially since our great leader keeps pushing to have us be more like Europe.

        Private eye rescues kids in night-time missions
        Returns children taken by social services (in Norway & Sweden) to parents

        In Nordic countries like Sweden, “social services workers have virtually absolute control over children once they are taken into government custody.” Parents get NO VISITATION! The “authorities believe children are the property of the state.”

        “She called on Americans to condemn such practices and watch their own backs, since she’s seen similar practices developing in the U.S.”

      41. Gold, silver, guns, ammo. . . Does anyone honestly believe that he can successfully defeat a determined Leviathan once Leviathan decides to take absolute control? You are only fooling yourselves. You may as well hide in your basement as a nuclear warhead explodes directly above your house. Ain’t gonna mean a thing, folks.


        Americans will be roaming through the streets. The Lord has shown this writer that America will be known as a NATION OF REFUGEES. People will be roaming to and fro from one city to another, seeking shelter and rest. The Lord said what we saw in New Orleans after the hurricane called Katrina hit will become a national reality. Just as those people fled from their destroyed city to other cities, so shall it be in the days ahead. Because of the several nuclear detonations, natural disasters and other terrorist-related incidents in major cities across America on the same day, millions will be wandering from sea to shining sea looking for a place of safety and rest.
        During this time of wandering people will become infected as biological and chemical weapons are released upon the population. Great food shortages and water shortages are going to cause rioting and looting in an unprecedented way. Great violence will emerge and a strong spirit of brutality will manifest. KATRINA IS THE PICTURE multiplied a thousand times.

                Never before had I heard such shrill, screaming sirens. They seemed to be everywhere–to the north, the south, the east, and the west. There seemed to be multitudes of sirens; and as I looked, I saw people everywhere running, but it seemed none of them ran more than a few paces, and then they fell. And even as I had seen the Statue of Liberty struggling to regain her poise and balance and finally falling for the last time to die on her face, I now saw millions of people falling in the streets, on the sidewalks, struggling. I heard their screams for mercy and help. I heard their horrible coughing as though their lungs had been seared with fire. I hear d the moanings and groanings of the doomed and the dying. As I watched, a few finally reached shelters, but only a few ever got to the shelters.

                Above the moaning and the groaning of the dying multitudes, I heard these words: “A noise shall come even to the ends of the earth, for the Lord hath a controversy with the nations. He will plead with all flesh; he will give them that are wicked to the sword, saith the Lord. Thus saith the Lord of hosts, Behold, evil shall go forth from nation to nation, and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth, and the slain of the Lord shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth. They shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground.” (Jeremiah 25:31-33)

                Then suddenly I saw from the Atlantic and from the Pacific and out of the Gulf rocket-like objects that seemed to come up like fish leaping out of the water. High into the air they leaped, each headed in a different direction, but every one toward the United States. On the ground the sirens screamed louder, and up from the ground I saw similar rockets beginning to ascend. To me these appeared to be interceptor rockets although they arose from different points all over the United States; however, none of them seemed to be successful in intercepting the rockets that had risen from the ocean on every side. These rockets finally reached their maximum height, slowly turned over and fell back toward the earth in defeat.

                Then suddenly the rockets which had leaped out of the oceans like fish all exploded at once. The explosion was ear-splitting. The next thing which I saw was a huge ball of fire. The only thing I have ever seen which resembled the thing I saw in my vision was the picture of the explosion of the H-bomb somewhere in the South Pacific. In my vision it was so real that I seemed to feel a searing heat from it.

                As the vision spread before my eyes and I viewed the widespread desolation brought about by the terrific explosions, I could not help thinking, While the defenders of our nation have quibbled over what means of defense to use and neglected the only true means of defense–faith and dependence upon the true and living God–the thing which she greatly feared has come unto her! How true it has proven in Psalms 127:1: Except the Lord build the house, they labour in vain that build it; except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.

        • jrsmac: You are a fucking moron.

        • Yes, you are a F*****g moran. I’ll jr smac your face.

          • DK and FLO

            LMAO, I guess it takes a whuppin to fix the problem, can I watch??

      43. God wanted us to have local Judges. But noooooooo, we wanted a KING…how’s that worked out for us?

        and whether you call him King or President, the result is the same.

        Leaders, like being leaders. Eliminate the whole concept of ‘Leaders’. Local democracy, with local council of Judges to resolve disputes. Military on the border reporting to the Elders of the Judges. Thus democracy, with wisdom.

        All Republics, ALL OF THEM, end the same way as communism, a few guys owning everything, and ‘in charge’…
        Like I said,

        God’s kingdom cannot come about, until they are ALL DEAD.

        • We already live in your God’s kingdom you human traitor, and have for three thousand years!

          Your Gods kindom is communism, democracy, socialism, capitalism, futilism, and monarchy.

          What we have today is how your God’s kingdom has worked for us, Mickey.

          It has given evil, given hate, given greed, and most importantly it has given a lack of responsibility and respect to the giver of life itself.

          But also, your God has given competition amongst friends, segrigation amongst universals, and lies in place of truth.

          Go forward and pray fella, its all you have left.

          • Wow man! You seem to have a singularly focused hatred for not only religion, but anyone who talks about their faith. I’m not saying that bad things haven’t been done in the name of religion, and I’m not much of a churchgoer, but you sound just like a liberal. That is part of the liberal/communist M.O: demonize religion. They’ve been working overtime to accomplish this goal (removing every reference to faith in our government, schools, etc., and it is an essential one, because no one will worship at the altar of government if they have faith. There is a continuum of a level of evil that can be applied to religions, and christianity CANNOT be meaningfully compared to islam, the MOST evil “religion” on the planet. They are worlds apart, despite the liberals’ attemptss at revising history. Notice how liberals tend to side with islam, while demonizing christianity? We ARE, and always HAVE BEEN, a country and republic based upon the judeo-christian ethic, like it or not. You also cannot deny the fact that all of what is now occuring has been prophesyzed, and we’re seeing more and more evidence of this all the time. What is YOUR alternative? God has no part in this, all of this shit is going to go down, and evil will triumph, because without God, the odds are stacked overwhelmingly against us. No thanks; I’d prefer to believe that this is all part of God’s plan, and that the good and loving people will be sheltered, either in this life or the next.These are hard and scary times, and faith can be a very comforting thing. Why don’t you back off and let people have their comfort, for God’s sake!

      44. Here is a senario,

        they are building these “camps” for when they shut down all the “public assistance”

        Bridge card


        oh and when they tell everyone ..”you know that money you think you have in the bank” well its ours not yours so guess what..yer fucked

        than all hell breaks lose and were in the the thick of it

        they cant pay their bills, and these programs are a huge drain on the they are going to get the axe..and thats when TSwill HTF..

        hey…its a for it in some form or fashion..
        its already starting

      45. Bigger badder smarter people than these elites have tried to destroy the American liberty and spirit,they fell short…these too shall pass!

        Let them dream and scheme as for myself I plan to live free or die tryin!
        Yall are welcome to join me,plenty of room here! 🙂

        • I’d LOVE to come down! My wife and I are in CT; nothing further to say there. I was a Navy corpsman and paramedic for a good long while, served with marines and SEALs. I have lots of skills, including machining, building engines, t/t driver, etc.

          • What would you like me to bring to the table………

      46. Panning for gold? Really? If I see you bending over by the river you’ll be in a heap of trouble, boy!

        • never bend over panning for Gold or you’ll squeal like a pig..

          With the joke aside, is panning for Gold worth the time? I thought it may be a good hobby, but with current events is it still worth its time? Plus where would you guys recomend on the west coast?

      47. I think your all just nutz. You guys have great imaginations…. I’m sorry but the shit is no were near hitting the fan… I mean Really? Can u really see zombie Americans doing anything to stand up against the government? Lol this country is just going to become a third world nation and the rich will take there shit else were…

      48. Gold hit $1880 overnight in world mkts.(that’s 188 mushroom bills) Dow will open at…? Libyan capital falls. Kadafi said to be hiding in his compound peeing his britches. Syrian leader says he has matters well in hand there (yeah, right) Mideast news update: The arabs still hate the jews #%@$# guts. And according to many jews- ‘smutual. Good thing that part of the globe isn’t important to us, like maybe they had half the world’s oil or something…oh, wait. Meanwhile, back at the ranch–The Bomster sold the bus and flew to the vineyard of somebody named Martha. Is he pickin’ grapes or something? The only good news is, the entire US congress left dc, thereby raising the IQ of the whole city(from ‘moron’ to ‘idiot’) If anybody, anywhere, sees anything normal happening please let me know. Do you all hear the theme music for the ‘Final Jeopardy’ round or is it just in my head?

        • It’s in your head…

        • LMAO. SO, you aint right.

          • I saw something normal today,

            My MR Coffee I bought at Wal-Mart still doesn’t brew a cup of joe in under 10 minutes…

      49. New tv reality show coming this fall! “Tyrant or No Tyrant” features Assad(syria), Kadafi(libya) and Mubarak(egypt) channeling the spirits of BinLaden, Saddam, Hitler, Idi Amin and others and trying to convince a 3 judge panel (all unidentified women in burkas) to let them advance to the next round. Scores are based on how well they channel and what the spirits say. Judges use a big foam rubber hand like you see at ball games. Only they have 3 different hands to choose from. A ‘thumbs up’ hand gets to advance. A ‘thumbs down’ hand loses the round and a ‘middle finger’ hand gets the contestant hauled back stage for on-camera torture. If all 3 judges use a ‘we’re #1’ hand to do the throat slit sign, the contestant is executed. Only 2 episodes have been filmed but, pending developments in the middle east, producers hope to get a full season of shows with new contestants added weekly. Van Halen has recorded a new, louder version of ‘Running With The Devil’ for the theme music. Ozzy Osbourne and Rush Limbaugh will co-host. Main sponsors are Trojan brand condoms and the Iowa Pork Producers Association. Show is syndicated but Al Jazeera has already picked it up for the 1st season.

      50. The Daily Double. 911 breaded hot wings at Hooters. Made for speed. The second time is always hotter. Serial #’s included.

      51. It’d a well known fact that if you go out on disability, you’ll draw more money than regular SS, so many are doing it and it also gives the DR a license to streal til you die.

      52. for the record, I do believe we are ripe for the picking and that we will be attacked soon, on a massive scale

        • When will the catalyst reach its reaction point for ignition…The chemistry is in the air its just a matter of time before the right combination.

          What part of the country will go first???

          • Durango probably nailed it with a destabilization around the eastern corridor Mississippi towards the east coast, once that falls it’ll be domino’s….

            but I could be wrong

        • BJ..

          Watch where the peices are being placed, study and observation, everything being place has an order to how it will engage. Understand the method and system of delivery and you should be able to avoid the brunt end of the first wave until you can squad up / team up/ partner up with members or other with simular goals, small groups are a better benifit when think as a whole. Dont be the Omega Man all by your self without any friends…

      53. Anyone who was really a green beret, would know that it’s spelled “de oppresso liber”.

        • I never saw him claim anything, looks like there was a pun in the way he spelled it

          • I got his joke

            • I think Omega Man is suffering Soylent Poisoning…he is way to serious.

              Lay off the green stuff, you wont have any friends when the SHFT, take a break from your armchair and socialize

              De Oppresor,
              Don’t change your name because of “that guy”, he is just irritated with the world and wants to take it out on former service members is all. I play chess too..good point about strategy, does anyone else have any good ideas in how to make our ( collective total) next move..I’ll team up, I play well with others..

      54. Captain Daniel Shays of “Shays Rebellion” interesting read if you aren’t familiar with the real version of US history.
        Captain Shays
        Sitting Bull
        Crazy Horse
        Real American heroes !!

      55. Omega,
        I think you are taking the name a little to seriously, green/ red/ blue/ black berets wasn’t what the post was about, it was about strategy , theres a pun in the way its spelled i.e Nacho Libre gosh “why so serious” (batman reference), don’t be that guy really, we are all on the same page and worried about whats going to happen that why we all communicate in different forums in expressing opinons, by the way Heston is dead and was turned into Soylent Green which is the dessert in the MRE’s that help make super soldiers

        B.T.W. Omega Man was a good movie

      56. There is a pun in the way I spelled it, I did it on purpose, and since your that guy don’t ask me to explain your way to serious and fall under the #1 and #3 spot in reasons in the 5 Reason Why American Riots will be the Worst in the World…

        FYI.. Even hardasses have a sense of humor…

      57. I fixed it to suit you critical opinions, it doesn’t really make a difference in my book,

        • Its a pun, really are you that guy where it has to be explained?

      58. Very few alive today fought to protect “our” liberty and freedom. The few that remain are in nursing homes with one foot in the grave. The Fritz wearing military is full of brain washed delusional little boys and girls that can’t make it in the corporate world, so they join to “serve” their corporate masters to protect “us” from the big bad wolf.

        Dream on

      59. What does Dorango Kid mean by “move west of the Mississippi if you can” ?

        • WASHINGTON (Reuters) – A magnitude 5.9 earthquake struck the U.S. East Coast and Canada from Virginia to Toronto on Tuesday, shaking buildings and forcing evacuation of the Pentagon and U.S. Capitol.

          There were no immediate reports of major damage or injuries from the quake, which the U.S. Geological Survey said was centered in Mineral, Virginia, between Charlottesville and Richmond. It was initially recorded at 5.8 magnitude.

          Washington office workers scurried into the streets after the quake, which lasted for about five seconds and sent items crashing to the floor from store and office shelves.

          Tremors shook New York City office buildings, prompting evacuations of courthouses, City Hall and halting work at the World Trade Center construction site, officials and witnesses said.

          It was not immediately clear if there was any damage or injuries in New York, but fire department and police officials in Dutchess County, north of New York City, reported structural damage to some buildings.

          A spokesman for the city transit agency said the quake was felt but declined immediate comment on whether the subway system was affected.

          Control towers at John F. Kennedy airport and Newark Liberty Airport in New Jersey were also evacuated.

          Buildings in Boston were evacuated, while a Reuters witness said the quake was felt as far away as Toronto.

          (Reporting by John Whitesides, the World Desk Americas; editing by Philip Barbara)

          • Oh my, what a joke, these people are scare of a 5.9?? I have lived through several stronger and more destructive in California and it was not that scary to evacuate as they are making it on the EAST coast, someone needs to grow a set, no wonder the F.E.M.A. camps and Fusion Center are mainly in the East Coast, quick run to one. I have since move to CO. and they too had one oooh whoooptie. I think God is angry at the sinners in Washington…Nah its just the H.A.A.R.P. = High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program. Someone got mad at the budget cuts because they can’t get a raise and killed the Shuttle program. Someone should have told them Maratha’s’ Vineyard is farther North….

      60. What is meant by “stay west of the missippi” by durango kid

        • If you take a dense population such as the east coast and compile a possible catastrophic event as well as a more likely economic break down then being east of the Mississippi is the last place you would want to be when the population begins its power vacuum i.e gangs, LEO, Military, Patriots. There is hint that a couple major fault lines are along the Mississippi and if a Earthquake like what the west coast is long over due hits if greater then 9.5 minimum when it hits then it may trigger all hell to those fault lines possibly, but more so it will be economic collapse that triggers the next internal conflict. Think about the ratio of population dependent on the system in regards to those receiving Gov aide, better yet break it down to cultural upbringings and demographics; I remember in Somalia 93 how UN convoys were being hi-jacked by warlords and or gangs because of the food and aide that was supposed to go to the population in need. Now bring that chaos to the U.S. x 10 and its like nothing we have ever seen.
          The 2nd Amendment is and was for the people who honor the rules of the society that our fore fathers built and to protect that freedom which we live in. Now imagine the ones also toting guns who don’t honor society and cheat the system, flash mob, steal, kill, and will do anything they can to take what they want. The end result will be a minimum of 3 types of engagement for control. i.e. the Military/Gov, the under class( poor) and the Patriots, eventually someone loses. So best bet is in the Plain State or upper North West, but what do I know its just a non-critical opinion…

      61. No harm meant. Just lost goods friends in the Nam. I was just making sure for their sake. Keep up the good work spreading the news to others. I do get out a lot. Do have the network going strong. Been planning and brain storming for decades. We had groups that included Professors and other very well educated members. The consensus was that you will never vote the bad guys out. We determined that you can’t over throw them, they are too strong and good at what they do. However, they are not omnipotent. They can and will make a mistake. And when they do you must get rid of them or miss your opportunity forever. It’s not just about surviving. It’s about making sure the kids have a future. Holing up in a compound doesn’t work when the feds show up. Ask Randy Weaver, Gordon Kahl, and the guys down in So. Missouri on Promised Land Road. Weavers wife and son are dead, Gordon is dead and his son Yory is in prison, still. The Missouri boys went to prison, too. The real fight will be in the urban and suburban areas. Get rid of your cammies. The new camo is business casual. Smile, the bad guys end is near!

      62. All

        Omega has a point, those who are deciding to bug in, need to assist those who bug out, its a 2 way streak. Bugging in can do many thing in assisting small groups fighting as one, locations, movements, routine and supply lines of the hostiles, patrols etc.., their is critical information in regards to what you observe, its just a matter of choice, Remember to that there is about 72 max before the door to doors begin. Those taking the fight to them remember to hit your targets with precision, small swift groups communicating can be tactically stronger then some larger groups depending on the engagement, never give up any info on your fellow Americans, hitting hard a fast will allow enough time for those who are helping time to clear out or move to another tactical advantage. Pick and choose your engagements that will cause the most interference and hit fast and disappear, never leave a man behind. Its not just out of respect but if they can’t count the bodies they don’t know the size.
        Stay strong in what you do, because a man with nothing to lose is the most dangerous then one trying to hold onto their power.

      63. Omega,

        None taken, I still got your six…..

        I’d rather be a Soldier with a mule and mountain gun, than Knight of old, with spurs of gold, or Roman, Greek or Hun. For when there’s trouble brewing, they always send for me!

      64. D.O.L. 18 D

        I like that quote

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