Meet The “Minerva Research Initiative” – The Pentagon’s Preparation For “Mass Civil Breakdown”

by | Jun 15, 2014 | Headline News | 151 comments

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    (Pictured: U.S. Soldiers, with Bravo Company, 1st Combined Arms Battalion, 194th Armored Regiment, 34th Infantry Divison, Minnesota Army National Guard, train in crowd riot control at Fort McCoy. Image Credit U.S. Military)

    About a month ago we showed photos of the Chinese police engaged in a drill designed to crush a “working class insurrection”, in which the police did precisely what would be required to end a middle class rebellion. It made us wonder: what does China know that the US doesn’t. As it turns out, nothing.

    Because long before China was practicing counter-riot ops using rubber bullets, all the way back in 2008 the US Department of Defense was conducting studies on the dynamics of civil unrest, and how the US military might best respond. The name of the project: “Minerva Research Initiative” and its role is to ” “improve DoD’s basic understanding of the social, cultural, behavioral and political forces that shape regions of the world of strategic importance to the U.S.

    The Guardian which first revealed the details, reports that, “The multi-million dollar programme is designed to develop immediate and long-term “warfighter-relevant insights” for senior officials and decision makers in “the defense policy community,” and to inform policy implemented by “combatant commands.”

    The premise behind Minerva is simple: study how violent political overthrow, aka mass civil breakdown, happens in the day and age of social networks, and be prepared to counteract it – by “targeting peaceful activities and protest movements” – when it finally reaches US shores.

    Among the projects awarded for the period 2014-2017 is a Cornell University-led study managed by the US Air Force Office of Scientific Research which aims to develop an empirical model “of the dynamics of social movement mobilisation and contagions.” The project will determine “the critical mass (tipping point)” of social contagians by studying their “digital traces” in the cases of “the 2011 Egyptian revolution, the 2011 Russian Duma elections, the 2012 Nigerian fuel subsidy crisis and the 2013 Gazi park protests in Turkey.”

    Twitter posts and conversations will be examined “to identify individuals mobilised in a social contagion and when they become mobilised.”

    Another project awarded this year to the University of Washington “seeks to uncover the conditions under which political movements aimed at large-scale political and economic change originate,” along with their “characteristics and consequences.” The project, managed by the US Army Research Office, focuses on “large-scale movements involving more than 1,000 participants in enduring activity,” and will cover 58 countries in total.

    Minerva is well funded: From the outset, the Minerva programme was slated to provide over $75 million over five years for social and behavioural science research. This year alone it has been allocated a total budget of $17.8 million by US Congress.

    Among the purely “theoretical” recent studies Minerva is funding is a University of Maryland project in collaboration with the US Department of Energy’s Pacific Northwest National Laboratory to gauge the risk of civil unrest due to climate change. The three-year $1.9 million project is developing models to anticipate what could happen to societies under a range of potential climate change scenarios.

    But what is most disturbing is that since the pretext for Minerva is simply to conduct theoretical social science experiments, there should be zero practical uses of the knowledge gleaned. Well, no.

    Although Office of Naval Research supervisor Dr Harold Hawkins had assured the university researchers at the outset that the project was merely “a basic research effort, so we shouldn’t be concerned about doing applied stuff”, the meeting in fact showed that DoD is looking to “feed results” into “applications,” Corman said in the email. He advised his researchers to “think about shaping results, reports, etc., so they [DoD] can clearly see their application for tools that can be taken to the field.”

    Many independent scholars are critical of what they see as the US government’s efforts to militarise social science in the service of war. In May 2008, the American Anthropological Association (AAA) wrote to the US government noting that the Pentagon lacks “the kind of infrastructure for evaluating anthropological [and other social science] research” in a way that involves “rigorous, balanced and objective peer review”, calling for such research to be managed instead by civilian agencies like the National Science Foundation (NSF).

    And tying it all together, is – who else – the NSA.

    One war-game, said Price, involved environmental activists protesting pollution from a coal-fired plant near Missouri, some of whom were members of the well-known environmental NGO Sierra Club. Participants were tasked to “identify those who were ‘problem-solvers’ and those who were ‘problem-causers,’ and the rest of the population whom would be the target of the information operations to move their Center of Gravity toward that set of viewpoints and values which was the ‘desired end-state’ of the military’s strategy.”

    Such war-games are consistent with a raft of Pentagon planning documents which suggest that National Security Agency (NSA) mass surveillance is partially motivated to prepare for the destabilising impact of coming environmental, energy and economic shocks.

    As the Guardian’s Nafeez Ahmed concludes, “Minerva is a prime example of the deeply narrow-minded and self-defeating nature of military ideology. Worse still, the unwillingness of DoD officials to answer the most basic questions is symptomatic of a simple fact – in their unswerving mission to defend an increasingly unpopular global system serving the interests of a tiny minority, security agencies have no qualms about painting the rest of us as potential terrorists.”

    We wonder: why is that surprising – by the time the “mass civil breakdown” is set to take place (and grand central-planning experiments by the Fed and its peers will merely accelerate said T-zero Day), virtually everyone who poses even the tiniest threat to the collapsing regime will be branded a terrorist.

    Since as we reported previously, yet another current version of what previously was merely science fiction, namely the arrival of pre-crime, or where a big data NSA “pre-cog” computer will determine who is a future terrorist threat merely based on behavioral signals, is just around the corner too, it is simply a matter of time before men in gray suits or better yet – drones – quietly arrest any and all potentially threatening social network “nodes” of future terrorist behavior on the simple grounds that their mere presence threatens the status quo with an even faster collapse.

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      1. Its as clear as day at this point.

        • Correcto mundo !

          El Presidente George Bush gave us this present. We are all terrorist not Muslim’s but we the people.

          • To millions of gun owning American’s, taking away their right to bear arms is nothing short of a death sentence. They see it for what it is; history backs it up. Don’t think that government will pass a law revoking their ability to defend themselves and their families in this day and age and not see substantial blowback that will result in civil war. You can force them to pay insurance, to stand in free speech cages; force flouride and GMO down their throats, turn them into criminals for burning firewood, growing organic food, or selling raw milk to their neighbor. But you take away guns and you better be prepared for repercussions the likes you’ve never seen.

            • We all know this is coming, sad thing is the government isnt even trying to hide the fact that THEY know its coming. Hope you all got your prepper/survivalist group ready to go.

              I used that prepper/survivalist card game “Conflicted” to help tighten up our group and weed out this nutcase that everyone thought was pretty amazing. The company just came out with an iPhone app too, here is the website in case you are interested.

              http://conflictedthegame.com/

              I definitely recommend this “game” as an exercise for any serious survivalist groups. It really helped bond ours together.

              • Prime directive of The Empire: Preserve The Empire.

                • The question I wonder about is WHAT will bring this about that the masses start rioting and anarchy begins?

                  If there is a viral outbreak then it will look vastly different than what the military would train for. It would not only be raw obedience but CONTAINMENT of entire areas. This is the worst case because the military can use the excuse of shooting anyone based on that they MIGHT spread a deadly pathogen.

                  What about war? This is likely that there would not be much of a military or a populatiuon left to control. The movie The Day After where the military is put into charge of handing out what little food and supplies left and controlling very small sections of areas. This would be a type of military that you could walk away from into the hills.

                  Mass terrorist attack. This would be the classic martial law that the military has trained for like the above article talks about. FEMA camps for certain individuals and those happy to get into a FEMA camp.

                  Economic collapse. I feel very strongly that before this country sees a depression on steroids that the war option will be used. It has been used over and over again in the past and humans repeat the same asinine mistakes over and over again.

                  Huge natural disaster. Aside from a near extinction level disaster like Yellowstone blowing, The New Madrid and /or the San Andreas snapping would cause the level of martial law that the article talks about. The masses would be left homeless and very hungry and desperate. Perfect recipe for the military taking control. The masses can be house via type of Haiti level of tents in Nevada/Arizona and other Midwest areas. There can also be a type of forced occupation where people’s homes are used to house “refugees” that don’t have anymore a place to live. This chaos would be millions or even possibly tens of millions of people that are FEMA level as regarded from the government.

                  EMP. This can be solar or man made, the results will be total breakdown of everything. The world runs on electricity, and without it hardly anything functions. A solar EMP will at least leave anything not a long wire still functioning and the recover will take months to years. This would mean a very strong military presence everywhere. A nuclear EMP means loss of communications and people living like they are in the late 19th. to early 20th century. This would mean a military more centralized and people living in areas that become like what someone would see in Escape from New York or LA.

                  Government coup. Many people don’t think about this but every single government is capable of falling into one source of power. BO and BO supporters could at one point declare rule over the country, especially if the elections didn’t go their way. BO could also decide that he needs to be emperor and a 3rd., 4th., 5th……… term is on. Then again there could also be an elitist rift and a disruption of any control and those whom exercise it. This would result in a likely civil war as even the masses would choose sides.

                  False flag. Many think this is very possible to take a grab at power. The imagination of the wicked holds countless scenarioes with this one. You can count on one thing, those in power will tell the public it is for everyone’s good that they do anything.

                  Black Swan. This is something that few expect to happen, like a sudden gamma ray burst or an asteroid out of the blue without warning. IF the government knew nothing about it you would see a time frame of utter confusion everywhere. If the government knew about a black swan or caused it you would see strange movements of military before the event. This can be a forewarning and valuable to those that can prepare for it beforehand.

                  The military of course is preparing for civil diruption and unrest for decades now. The difference is now it is more visible and becoming more or a routine. This is what is disturbing so many, the plans for martial law are beginning to shape up and form like the stages before a massive super cell thunderstorm forms.

                  I think that the best words that describes all of this that we are seeing with the government and the world itself; MENACING or OMINOUS.

                  • But, but, but … the government is going to sleep for 90 days in their underground bunkers when the SHTF and let US kill each other off.

                    There will not be any government, the police and military are going to change into civilian clothes and disappear into the shadows like the Iraqi Army …. right? Right? Right?

                    Engage your employees NOW my peeps, before the next elections or be enslaved by them one election at a time. 🙁

                  • I have a very strong feeling that what you will see is an economic train wreck in very slow motion (30 years), rather than a war.

                    War IS an extinction level event now.

                    Nuclear reactors. Fukushima style. Over 300 of ’em. All over the place. It would be a shame if you were to hit some by accident. It would be even a worse shame if the country on the losing side were to hit their own on purpose…

            • SterlingSilver, let the bring it, since they’re going to anyway. I will serve them “lead and brass refreshments.” braveheart

              • Will you give 3 warnings from Bertha first?

                • Howdy, Ugly. Bertha will be the ‘main ingredient’ in the ‘refreshments’.

                  • I hopeyouare ready to serve that meal. It will be harder for you to swallow then them.

                    Feeling great. Look like the pig wrap worked. Maybe see 15 more years. And if all good I will hold my :tgreat great grandson in just a couple of months .

                    Survive brave heart. Survive its death I believe I will see it end after all. And you will get to blast someone soon.

                    The “PAGE” has rizen because there have been reports of the coco puff gang been seen causing a bit of trouble.

                  • The truth is you’ll hand your gun over to them when they come for it brave one because the fact is when it becomes reality you won’t die to keep your gun.

            • These asshole luciferians have created the perfect storm across the globe and now it’s coming home to roost..

              And it’s exactly what they planned all along..

              They have imploded the entire world to its knees economically and created total chaos in the middle east.

              Now they are waiting for us to incite insurrection so we can finally be put down as dogs as we are seen by them..

              Best be ready for the fight..

              Fuck them all..

              Many of us know their game plan.

              We have studied history..

              Game on..

              possee

            • SS I read a comment someone made to another article about where they thought that civilians in Iraq were allowed to have an AK47 and a couple of magazines of ammo, which may or maynot be true. Anywho, a couple of Mags of ammo in a fire fight wouldn’t last 5 Mins. especially if you shoot the first mag in the air like those Arabs like to do. Point being if you really expect the STHTF you better have way more than a couple of mags of ammo. If you’ve every go to the range for just a little fun and practice, its amazing how quickly you can shoot up 50 rounds of ammo, makes you realize a 1000 Rds for your “Favorite Assualt Rifle” ain’t really much ammo. Trekker Out. Si vis pacem, para bellum!

          • Yeah, remember when the Chimp landed on the Aircraft Carrier and declared Mission Accomplished? I think he was referring to the Patriot Act – The Seeds to Nazi-ism in America. His failed legacy has destroyed America for decades.

            • People, when the day comes for true revolution, those in power will have a list. And on this list are names of EVERY individual who owns a gun, who posts on websites like these (yes our cute monachers don’t fool ip addresses), and anyone else who stands in the way of TPTB! And if you think they have not complied such information, you would be mistaken. Besides the NSA probing, the FBI, Secret Service, and every other “intelligence” agency of this govt has pooled all their resources into “domestic terrorism.” We all have been flagged. Once it begins, without warning, without a peep from the lapdogs at the MSM, we all will be dealt with accordingly! Just saying folks prep all you want, but they will come in the night, take you, your families, and anyone else who stands in their way.

              RTP

              • Realtime Prep: Your assessment is flawed due to you failure to grasp the basics of mathematics, logic, and recent U.S. history. MATH: The U.S. is the 4th largest in land mass (3rd in population) with over 250,000,000 guns in the hands of nearly 100,000,000 people. Over 12,000,000 of us are either Vietnam or Gulf war Era veterans, and some are both. There are currently less than 3,000,000 total U.S military personnel worldwide and only around 1,000,000 total law enforcement in the entire country, this includes all federal, state, and local armed officers. HISTORY: A 29 y/o contract employee walks out of NSA HQ with nearly all their sensitive data and escapes before they find out. That says that the NSA is NOT the “all seeing-all knowing” agency that they want us to think they are. Over 1,000 federal, state, and local LEOs lock down a small Massachusetts town for 24 hours and went door-to-door searching for one wounded teenage terrorist and they still couldn’t find him. This show the weakness of the myth of the power of the militarized police forces of our nation. The two cases alone show just how inept these ‘forces’ really are when they can bested by one lone young man. And how about the refusal of gun owners in N.Y. and Connecticut to register their ‘assault rifles’. These states are listed as the 5th and 7th bluest states in the country so there is NO chance that this will work on a national level. LOGIC: the only rational conclusion is that the ‘so-called’ PTB are in a very weak position and that they know it and that they know We know it. They are just about out of bluff as the curtain is being drawn back and there is no “All Powerful Oz” after all, just an old man trying to bullshit his way out of predicament.

              • Realtime, if this operation you speak of does happen, rest assure that it will operate about as effective as any other Gov-opp, The U.S. post office comes to mind. Perhaps a couple of big cities will attempt such actions but the reality of a task as big as you have laid out is… Well like expecting that obama care will actually work.
                This oversized government is in fact it’s own worst enemy, they will cause more damage to themselves than they know. I think everyone here knows the reaction that will occur if any attempt to take our guns is employed, so do they. An attempt to lock down the big cities would be certain, but what do you do with a pack of wolfs once they surround you? We aren’t surrounded, they are! And that is what they fear most.

        • hurry, hurry, all hell and its fury
          approaches now swift as the dawn
          Liberty Rides with vengeance burning
          And justice, bloody justice, is her song

          All aflurry, now for rage!
          all come ye devils; gather to me
          And turn your coats red, rebels with
          the savage blood of tyranny!

          An eye for an eye
          A tooth for a tooth
          A nail
          a flag
          and a noose
          there can be no mercy
          there will be no truce.

          Spit on your hands,
          and hoist the black
          trade em bullets
          for jack boots.

          “WWTJD?” (What Would Thomas Jefferson Do?)

      2. I really wish we had the strength and ability to come together, vs. being divided. As we saw in the article a couple back, we clearly outnumber them. Our flaw is that we are not united and organized. Instead we infight and go it alone.

          • Mac, that video is the PERFECT ANALOGY of our situation in this nation today. The ants [we the people] vs. the other bugs [elitists]. The people can and will defeat the elitists. braveheart

            • History gives us examples of warrior peoples who were overcome by an outside force that was maybe not as large or as powerful or well trained but who were organized.
              The celts were feared by both the Romans and the Greek armies. But while the celts had a tribal system, the Romans and Greeks had a centralized leadership military and won.
              The Plains Native Amercians were classed as one of the best cavalry in history but with their tribal system they lost to the invading but organized US army.

              To my knowledge the American people do not have an alternate army and therefore while we massively outnumber the in power US government and their military, we are like millions of arms without a head. Divide and crush will be easy and swift.

              • I disagree, for a number of reasons, but the simple one is: Rome fell in the end because they could not pay the Army and it went home. The Gov attacks us; who pays the bills? The welfare sheeple? The people who are getting mad are the ones that pay all the bills. IMHO it’s possible some of the Gov just may have started to realize they are pissing off the people who pay the bills and the people who WORK. SO I’ll tell the gov this: IF YOU HAVE ANY BRAINS YOU BETTER SUPPORT THE PEOPLE WHO PAY THE BILLS AND WORK FOR A LIVING! If all you have on your side are the Polit’s and the welfare people, you might win a war; THEN WHAT?

                • ” you might win a war”
                  Yea right, can you say ass handed to them

          • A teachable moment.

            • Indeed. And here is the rest of that story for those who don’t know it…

              h t tp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPW9mIrQcXA

          • Tha one ant already stood up. Do you remember his name?

            His name was Cliven Bundy. Other ants had stood up before him but they had no support. Cliven stood up and was backed up by just a few other ants.

            You know why they didn’t just round up Bundy and his supporters?

            – Because they were standing on solid lawful footing.
            – The feds knew they had no lawful right to the land.
            – The feds knew that there was a big price to pay.

            The feds are always willing to pay a price when they’re right. But, when they are wrong and they know they are wrong, they will back down if there is a little bit of a price to pay.

            Cliven Bundy owns the rights to that land. Why he ever shared it with the feds or gave them the slightest authority over it, I don’t know. But, one thing is for sure, once the feds start sucking on a nipple (as in milking you for cash) when you knock them off, they get very upset. Add in a crooked politician and some chinese energy company antics and, well, you have get a cesspool of lies designed to screw over an honest man.

            Is there anyone here thinking that if they had not been armed that the outcome would have been the same? Anyone who thinks that I would say to you, “Pull you head out of the sand and look around once in a while.” Your opinion is not based in history.

            History says that if these people would not have been armed, they would have been herded into a pen and trucked off to a holding area with the same shit covered cattle trucks that the feds used to steal parts of Bundy’s herd with.

            There was a threat of death and dismemberment. Remember this:

            The government will always pay the death and dismemberment price when they are right or they have the right, but, when they are wrong they can be backed down. If Bundy had not owned the rights to that land they would have steamrolled him and his supporters so fast, guns or no guns. The feds blinked because they knew they were wrong and Bundy and our boys backed the feds down.

            Its a blueprint for success in the future.

            “Stand your ground. Don’t fire unless fired upon, but if they mean to have a war, let it begin here.”

            Captain John Parker was a wise and moral man, as much as I can tell. The feds do not want a repeat performance. Thats really the summary of it, isn’t it? The feds ARE the British. They treat us like the British treated the colonists. The colonists knew it was wrong. We know its wrong. The feds like and tell us its not wrong. …and around and around we go. We have been taken over from within.

            • Net Ranger: You are all wrong about Rancher Bundy. The only right to the land he had … he still has on the fee simple land that was his family homestead, which comprised the private land portion of the “ranch”. The BLM is NOT contesting his right to HIS land; only OURS.

              Ranches in the West are comprised of both private and public lands. The public lands are leased by the private land owner on a yearly basis and must be renewed every year. Rancher Bundy and his family LEASED 300,000 acres from the American Taxpayer for grazing his cows on taxpayer land.

              The only right to that 300,000 acres was a leased fee right contingent upon paying the lease fee (grazing rights), when Rancher Bundy stopped paying his annual rent (for whatever reason) he lost his clai to that 300,000 acres and the BLM as the management agent for the Taxpayer, has a right to release that land to another rancher or user: like a mining company or solar energy firm.

              The BLM also has the right to cut the number of animal units every year prior to re-lease of the land for grazing rights. The West is in the grip of a 30 year drought. Lake Powell is down 130 feet, meaning it is only half full. That is a huge lake. HUGE.

              Read the lease. You disappoint me. I thought you and a few others here were smarter than that. Rancher Bundy is a criminal trespassing on Taxpayer land. Why is he special? Should lall the other ranchers who pay grazing fees get access to Taxpayer land free? How about me if I want to raise a few head of cattle? Should I have to pay?

              The FEDS will be back after the elections; in force. I have a Franklin that says so. You want to take that bet? 🙂

              • BTW Net Ranger, multiple uses exist SIMULTANEOUSLY on Taxpayer land. I lease public ground for mining and a local rancher leases it for grazing. In other locations around Arizona, they have built solar farms on taxpayer land and fenced that area. but cows are free to graze outside the fence. So Bundy could continue to graze his cows legally, simply by paying his grazing lease fees.

                He wants something for nothing at Taxpayer expense. No different than the O’Bummer Horde, multinational companies that pay no taxes, or the Gangster Banksters who receive 45 billion dollars a month. Parasites all.

                I have never seen a 300,000 acre solar farm. Have you? That much ground could likely provide LA Aand las Vegas ALL of the electric power they need. ALL.

                • Net Ranger: bottom line the American people will NOT support a Revolution that is not based upon OUR Constitutional Rights. Without the American people all you have are a handful of unlawful malcontents, who will be labeled “Domestic Terrorists”.

                  Constitutional Principle is everything. It is OUR most powerful weapon against the New World Order who seeks to enslave US and make US economic serfs.

                  No Constitutional Principles, no Constitutional Rights were denied Rancher Bundy. According to the US Constitution Rancher Bundy is a criminal, Find a real horse to ride to support a New American Revolution to restore Constitutional Government to America. Illegal Immigration, health care, or FREE TRADE qualify. Lock and load over them.

                  Rancher Bundy is NOT the ticket. 🙁

        • Ah that’s were political correctness and fill in the blank ……American comes from. African American, Jewish American etc etc.

          Pit one another against each other. Divide and conquer. 😉

          • Works like a charm, no?

            • Absolutely works like a charm!

              • First axiom of war: Divide and Conquer

          • When the US Government Arms Foreign Terrorist Groups, Arms Foreign Drug Cartels, but then tries to Disarm American Citizens,…How much clearer can it get? When their bogus gun laws don’t work, they will use force. Connect the dots. I ask, why do we as U.S. Tax Payers keep Funding this Tyranical Organization?

            • Thats the question I kept getting myself stuck on. So I quit the job. Now In another number in the “not in the workforce” group. Feels good to bust my ass for myself and family now 100% and not for some one else.

              • Amen brother

            • They are printing money to fund it…the interest that our debt is accumulating is being paid to whomever with ALL of our tangible commodities…oil, gas, water, food, land…our kids and grandkids souls.

              By all of the fucks that have been elected to our countries highest positions.

              Every fucking one of them.

          • IMHO. If you hyphenate your ancestry. You are not American.

            • Damned right Dave!

              • And if you let your wife hyphenate her name, you’re not a man.

                • If your enough of a man, she won’t want to hyphenate her name. If you you “let” her! You have a lot to learn about women, son.

                • @ southron
                  hear, hear! If there is anything I have learned in life, is that marriages are not held together by hyphens. Humorous side note: has it ever occurred to any of these feminazi fools that they are “fighting the patriarchy” by keeping their DADDY’S last name? That make any sense to you?

                  Ideals Mastering Power Creating All Life GOD IS

                  • The liberal mind is Schizo.

            • SD, truer words were never spoken. braveheart

          • Rodster, braveheart never subscribes to communist PC crap. I’m an American, period! Not hyphenated. braveheart

            • Do you get one of them “-” things for being a PO’D American?

              • Apparently — American-terrorist…

          • Rodster how true, and you can bet when they have you pinned down in a basement of a burned out house, your not going to care who has your back, whether it’s a Jew a Black or maybe even a Muslim, as long as they’re shooting at the same enemy your shooting at. When it comes to Patriots, we’re an equal opportunity employer. Trekker Out. Semper Paratus!

        • A really great article on this, Outlaw, is “the Three Stages of Revolution” at Common Sense website (Dave Hod..).

          THIS IS A MUST READ FOR ALL OF US– PLEASE MAKE SEVERAL COPIES AND PASS AROUND!!!!!!

        • Read “THE THREE STAGES OF A REVOLUTION: THE PEOPLE ARE BEING DRAGGED INTO THE THIRD STAGE” at Common Sense show by Dave (my printer cut off his last name).

          • Thanks, he does a good job posting the caution and speed limit signs, I also believe he’s on the mark with the stages, although I think we’re on the verge of S-3

        • History is repeating itself. American Indians could not unite in the beginning. The white man nearly killed them into extinction.

          Now it’s the white American that will disappear from this land.

          We are to stupid, ignorant what ever you want to call it. Sitting back on our fat lazy asses watching and worrying what the kardashinshits are doing.

          Guess we will get what we get.

          God bless america, when it’s over I pray it will be better.

          • “don’t go down without one helluva fight”

      3. Looks like the public is being set up with all this pre-planning. Wish they would put that effort into figuring out Iraq,VA problems and the southern border ahead of time. Again priorities are screwed up or are the people the main problem?

      4. Like we need any more proof…..

        Hopefully, all the idiots and gang-bangers will busy themselves trying to engage the U.S. military in combat and thereby thin out the population of all the dead weight so that those who remain can (re)build anew a nation with more responsible fiscal policy…..

      5. Forget the stocks. Beans, rice, bullets, and tp aren’t the stuff you want.
        You have to stay as low key as possible, but still talk to others. Keep buying books, beans rice, bullets heirloom seeds, TP, etc, etc, etc.

      6. This is another exercise designed to fix the enemy in the minds of politically weak minded people. History is being rewritten, lines are being drawn and people are allowing themselves to be categorize into groups that can’t see past the faceless enemy being painted for them.

        I don’t know what comes out the other end of the path we’re on, but I hope that when I die it’s in a pile of spent brass and hand grenade pins.

      7. It is unbelievable that when the obvious ‘Writing On The Wall’ is right before us, over 95% cannot see or read what is about to happen. But then again, many people cannot read nor write anyway….

        ‘If you think education is expensive. Put a price tab on ignorance’

        I think we are seeing our own price tag….

        • Amen Ugly.

        • And this bill, unfortunately, will be paid in blood.

        • To look at the intelligence of the average American all you have to do is watch several of the “Waters World” videos (he works for Bill O’Reilly)on you tube–we are doomed as a vast majority of the population are ignorant dolts. And–Ignorant is being kind–the retards that run this country are not stupid–they will wait–until maybe a generation–maybe two–and then viola–all the patriots will be too old or dead. And THIS generation–God have mercy on our souls

      8. Freedom is…

        ummm yeah … we’ll see just how many of the ZOG gestapo DHS piggies actually do abandon their defenseless families to show up on the block and actually stick around to fight to the death, once a few are dropped from 1000 meters…

        click-clack

        ((+))

        “Freedom is never Free.”

        “It must be earned and maintained with blood.”

        woof

        * note: they don’t have enough man power to realistically control or shut down an nation-wide uprising. they will only be able to control the transportation hubs that’s it. control interstate traveling, food and fuel.

        so just stock up arm up and be prepared to bug in. the biggest threat to most of you will be your own unprepared hungry thirsty neighbors. the golden horde.

        • Mr. Wolf/Nina0…..RESPECT. Glad to see you back. How’ve you been? So our No. 1 enemy is prepping to take us on? And I’m prepping to respond to their BS in self-defense. BTW, what are your plans for your site? No updates since March 23, but I found it really interesting. braveheart

          • who is Nina O ?

            ;0)

            • Howdy, Wolf. OK, I understand if you don’t use the old name anymore, but what about your website?

              • @bh … respect . ;0)

                thank you for your support.

                the website is still there it’s just offline, i’ve moved it to off shore hosting to protect it, and it’ll be up again soon.

                be patient please, in time you will see what and why.

                woofy

                • Or when you can find work again. Have you found any other contracts that will put up with your talk.

                  And bullshit on the site you still have not paid your bill for your current host server. What a loser.

                  • sigh… more lies from @fbp.

                • Wolf, message received and acknowledged. I’ll be looking forward to it.

                  • Braveheart

                    Standing with big T here real does degrade your street cred. Do you real know what a low life you are supporting with the code talk. Just by the pics he use to send to the ladies of SHTF. You can see why his manhood is in ??. Hell he couldn’t even last one enlistment as marine.

                  • sigh… once again @fagboypuss you’re telling twisted second hand half information and out right lies.

                    do your worst boyo.

                    there is nothing i would change from my past decisions in my life. especially knowing what i do now of the world built on lies that we exist in.

                    an notice that i’m still here.

                    all you’ve done is “confirm” my suspicions of these last few years.

                    woof

                  • How To Survive A Modern Day Witch-hunt

                    Witch-hunts are becoming increasingly common.

                    A list of over a hundred names purged from their jobs for unpopular beliefs or controversial statements can be found here.

                    American political warfare has reached the same state as actual warfare, where the line between combatant and civilian is blurred.

                    Americans used to put aside their political beliefs to work together, and now they actively use their beliefs to purge each other from the public sphere through modern Inquisitions.

                    more…

      9. We should not put ourselves in a situation where this scenario would play out. Besides the troops or police you’ll need to factor in drones for facial recognition and possibly assignation or for the 3 a.m. knock on the door. Maintain as low a profile as possible.

        • Don’t think these people will be knocking, C.

      10. I think you may be seeing signs of the people starting to reach a saturation point. Militia groups that were once thought to be extreme, are gaining members and acceptance. As evidence at the Bundy ranch, these groups are willing to stand firm to stop what is seen as govt. abuse.

      11. With the Fall of Iraq this week, I believe many in the U.S. Military are feeling pretty betrayed and disgusted at this point, with the US Government. Where will their loyalty lie if ordered to go after regular Americans for no good reason. Like enforcing NDAA or Martial Law. Your thoughts on that?

        • Their loyality will lie with the hand that feeds them. Blacks will have no problems enforcing the NDAA or Martial Law on whites & Mexicans. Muslums will Enforce against Christians and Vice versa. History repetes itself. The White & black US soldiers had no reservations enforcing manifest destiny. The Native Americans whe treated a sub human. Now its the White mans turn?

      12. It’s like the Star Wars saga. Did the Stormtroopers think they were the bad guys? Of course not. When a rebel was labeled as such, the Stormtroopers had no hesitation with gunning them down. Mind tricks truly are for the weak minded and plenty of weak minds have been constructed around us to carry out the orders of tyrants for generations.

        Then there is The Matrix side of all of this. Anyone that isn’t one of us, is potentially one of them. See something, say something. Pay your taxes, eat some GMO, drink some fluoride, smile and shut-the-fuck-up. We don’t have time for 20 questions copper-top.

        Can’t forget the Brave New World aspects either. The Alphas are engineered to run the show for their masters, the Betas push the paper, the Deltas grunt out the labor and we that see through it are all John Savage.

        Take your pick, pick them all; the fucking powers that shouldn’t be have been setting the world up for this for centuries. You cannot beat them head on. The only way to win is to make these psychopathic lunatics irrelevant. You make them irrelevant by not conforming and not participating. Don’t be a pacifist, but pick your battles carefully and cunningly. These demons won’t allow it any other way, be every single shade of gray.

        • One of my rules of thumb is — The harder they campaign for something in the MSM, the more I am against it… it doesn’t even matter what it is anymore.

      13. A commenter on Zero hedge nailed it when they said:
        “Those dumb shits have no idea how things will go down.

        They’re playing with three Tinkertoy sets instead of a million erector sets with bullets. DUH. No clue, keep at it half-brains.”

        • Add this to the massive amounts of bullets, guns and other equipment purchased by DHS and other government agencies.

          Despite the (empty) reassurances that “everything is fine” by the media, everyone should realize the government is preparing for something BIG in the near future.

      14. “We wonder: why is that surprising – by the time the “mass civil breakdown” is set to take place (and grand central-planning experiments by the Fed and its peers will merely accelerate said T-zero Day), virtually everyone who poses even the tiniest threat to the collapsing regime will be branded a terrorist.”
        That mean you and I dear SHTFplan Readers

      15. Off topic, but not really,

        I got a food grinder for my bday in march. Just had the chance to pull it out to grind some fresh cornmeal for a pan of corn bread. I’m a firm believer that I’ve got to use it now to use it when SHTF. Let me tell you! If you think you’re gonna keep your hand mill packed up for a rainy day you’re in for a Rude awakening ….I had to grind the corn 3 times to get the right consistency, and it took me longer to grind the meal than it will for it to cook and I have sweat running down the crack of my ass and the AC was running. Yeah, so I’m an over 40 female who’s never had a lot of upper body strength, but I’m just saying. I don’t think a lot of us are in the prime shape of our life and thAt grain mill nearly kicked my pathetic butt. Gonna head to the wonder mill site for some tips….

        • LOL !!!

          Nopittypartyhere says, your comment should be considered

          Prepper Tip of the Day !

        • Damn. That cornbread is good…

          • Especially with beans, rice and ham.

            • I just found out that I like black-eyed peas and ham, with green beans and green onions. I was given a small bag of black-eyed peas so I cooked them up in a stew. I never had them before, but think I’ll get some more.

              • Gotta eat black eyed peas on New Year’s Day for prosperity. Or so granny said.

              • Add some bacon grease drippings as well as a can or two of chicken broth. Down home southern cooking.

          • We had the pleasure of grinding our own wheat and such from berries for a few months. Had an electric grinder though. The nutrient content is obvious. You can last 1/2 day on 1 or 2 slices of bread you make yourself from ground wheat. It was striking. I’ve read the nutrient content of organic food is 3x that of factory food; but, I suspect its even more. We can eat less and be as healthy.

          • I’ve been doing my laundry by hand for the last few months, it’s amazing how much the strength in my hands and arms has increased, just by wringing things out by hand.

            Practice makes perfect!

        • Happy Birthday.
          Happy Fathers Day. NPPH.

          I got a 55 gal. drum with good lid and seal for Fathers Day. Yes I am Happy.

        • quote: “I have sweat running down the crack of my ass!”

          lmao rofl ;0)

          “Awesome!”

          I’ll stick with my dry stored deer jerky, mixed vegi’s, rice, beans and hot sauce.

          • Ya know, my husband was laughing and rof watching me.

        • @nopity

          I am wondering, does anyone here know how to hook up a stationary bike to one of these grain mills? Seems to me your legs would be way stronger than your arms, same as anyone else. Just a thought 🙂

          Ideals Mastering Power Creating All Life GOD IS

          • It would have helped if I hadn’t had the burrs to close together at first. But it still took multiple runs to get meal consistency.

      16. no videos this time
        but…

        ISIS Jihadists Release Shocking Photos Documenting Slaying Of 1700 Iraqi Soldiers

        http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-15/isis-jihadists-release-shocking-photos-documenting-slaying-1700-iraqi-soldiers

        and this is quite interesting

        the photos were released on social media
        yeah
        terrorists using Twitter !

        “As a reminder, using social media outlets to display fabricated propaganda in the form of video clips and pictures is nothing new, and the only variable is who benefits. First there was Syria of course, where fake YouTube clips of a chemical attack were used to nearly launch a false flag war. Then it was Egypt, when as we showed before, the Muslim Bortherhood staged a protest crackdown by the military regime in order to shore up popular upport in “The Muslim Brotherhood: The Best Straight-To-YouTube Actors Money Can Buy?”

        So is the ISIL al-Qaeda spin off merely the latest entity to use social media propaganda in order to achieve strategic goals, or is the picture dump truly an archive of the gruesome actions the extremist group has conducted in its Iraqi blitzkrieg? We will let readers decide.”

        ALWAYS remember
        there is a CONSTANT battle going on for your mind
        it NEVER stops

        ARM YOUSELF
        by EDUCATING YOURSELF
        or if you prefer
        in the words of Ronnie RayGun

        “trust but verify” !

        the only way to protect yourself
        is to know the tactics that they use on you

        EDWARD BERNAYS – ‘PROPAGANDA’ (1928)

        http://www.theburningplatform.com/2014/06/14/edward-bernays-propaganda-1928/

      17. Never trust anyone with a gray suit, or a black suit, or a brown suit, or a blue suit…especially if they have stripes on the arm and tin badges over their hearts.

        Don’t communicate anything of importance on electronics.

        When I want a meeting with my local group I just walk out on the porch with a beer and they come running…lol.
        Speaking of which…

        • Just remember the history of the internet and it should become very clear. One. Big. Trap.

          • Calgagus, The only history of the internet that I know, is that “Al Gore Invented It”. Can’t decide where would be the best Investment. Al’s Carbon Credits or Eisenkrauts Bit Coins.

            • Mountain Trekker
              Let me invest for you. Got the Calgagus Cashless Cow biz off the ground now and the profits are unreal.

      18. The unwillingness of DoD officials to answer the most basic questions is symptomatic of a simple fact – in their unswerving mission to defend an increasingly unpopular global system serving the interests of a tiny minority, security agencies have no qualms about painting the rest of us as potential terrorists.”

        You are so right and it is for this reason that our own military and police will be killing americans when americans can no longer stand what has been done to the country,

      19. There are as many battle plans as there are Patriots.
        Eighteen to eighty, almost blind, sick, cripple and crazy that will make up many a rag tagged group. Most of the problem is that a lot of which we talk about is in the grey area.

        Who will we fight first.
        When will we fight them.
        How will we fight them.

        With what will we fight them.

        I have thought out scenario’s where hostilities can be one to two weeks right up to no end in sight.
        Think Chemical and Biological warfare for a short version.
        One question hard to figure is, Who will fight.
        Will be able to fight. That burns down to, Why should they fight. In todays USA that is a major question.

        • @Slingshot: An Organized Ambush Strategy has been a pretty effective tool in history for resistance or to maintain a road block from advancement. The other less organized means are the individual Sniper tactics. Several can hold down an entire city or demoralize a pack of invaders for days and weeks if needed. Refer to “Red Dawn.” Or ask your friendly Vietnam Vets who understand Guerrilla war jungle tactics for the details. This is of course the last line of Patriotism to save our great country in a total all out collapse. I think when the first videos or news comes out that regular Americans are being killed for no reason; that will ignite the masses to muster. No revolution in history has ever succeeded without the support of the peasants.

          • My above comments above are not advocating any violence, however everything I mentioned above RE: tactics are similar to tactics seen on any TV show out there for military tactics and strategy, etc, such as on the History Channel/Discovery CH, documentaries, etc. However if violence is brought upon you or your family or your neighborhood, you have every right to defend yourself or others, with similar deadly force to spare your life or your family’s lives. In my life, I choose not be a Victim nor a Slave therefore I am prepared and so should you.

            • Please tell me you areNOT give advice from what you learned on TV

              If true you are just as guilty of the murder of any diot that take you serious from now on.

              Just think someone will get murdered because of you

              • Much of what is shown on TV is Marginal. However that doesn’t negate the fact that there also is Lots of good info on TV. The history channel does a show that outlines all the famous battles the weapons used the tactics ect. Like During one rebellion Boudicas Army of revolters was 20,000 strong yet the rebellion was defeated by a small force of trained solders who used superior tactics. The fact is you can learn something from the dumbest person or stupidest TV program around if you not TOO SMART to THINK & LEARN. If nothing else you might possibly learn what not to do. Stating everything on TV is worthless is equal to those who state nothing is to be gained by reading a book.

                • They call it “programming” for a reason.

            • I think it was more of a disclaimer, even though our fate is already sealed, and can’t be unsealed with one disclaimer…

          • WWTI.
            I said,

            Why should they fight. In todays USA that is a major question.

            You said,

            I think when the first videos or news comes out that regular Americans are being killed for no reason; that will ignite the masses to muster. No revolution in history has ever succeeded without the support of the peasants.

            I may be at the point of splitting hairs. I already did have an answer to my question above and proved to be in line with yours. Will the peasants support be there?
            Incidents like Waco and Ruby Ridge are a long way off and even the Bundy Ranch did not go as far as the others. Exchange of Gunfire. The country has change in the kinds of people. The educational system. Agendas made by politicians, Financial struggle. Patriotism is not as popular except for the hollow flag waving. Immigrants do not have the same values as native born. Serving in the Military. Native born values of Home, God and Country, are on the downturn. So you see, that even with atrocities being perpetrated on Lawful US Citizens does not mean there will be support for the cause as Americans will turn a Blind Eye.

            Your answer was not to incite others to violence and if I may point out. If you did it was very mild compared to past posts by many posters, on many subjects, which I might add, had major approval rating.

            • @slingshot – RE: No revolution in history has ever succeeded without the support of the peasants. I think this was a quote from Fidel Castro, who is still in charge basically. As long as America’s Peasants such as those Dependent on EBT Food Stamps, Welfare, SSI, BabyMommas with no BabyDaddys, Medicare, Medicade, Social Security, Unemployment, ObamaCare, etc, Corporate subsidies, VA Benefits, Govn’t Employee Pensions, will keep supporting the entity that feeds them. However if an unknown event happens like an EMP, where all those benefits are suddenly cut off with a grid down, they will all blame the Government who feeds them. And then the tides will turn. So that is why all these programs are in place, to control the Mass Peasants to keep them on their side. Basically all of us who are not dependent on the Government and are paying the Taxes of this Government are F*ck’d, and more and more out numbered.

      20. Military !
        Honor Your Sworn Oath !
        Defend Our Constitution and the People !
        Arrest Obama and those who support him in the military, such as the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs.

      21. Takeaway: Steer clear of crowds and cities. Move to rural areas now, or at least have a bulletproof plan to relocate to one when SHTF.

      22. Spend the $75M on a park near my house. On something constructive. Stop wasting our money!!!

      23. There are only 6 reasons to hate and destroy….

        1. Greed
        2. Hatred
        3. Jealousy
        4. Coveting
        5. Envy
        6. Control

        Get rid of those and the common 99% can get along. It is the 1% that cannot handle it….

        • You forgot EGO. In most all situations as why people get into trouble or have legal problems is for these 3 items: Greed, Ego and or Drugs.

      24. Look, everyone, we are in a war with SATAN himself!

        Bear with me a moment, will you?

        Satan can NOT do a DAMN thing without the COOPERATION of a human being! Satan has SEDUCED all these evildoers.

        BUT there is ONE weapon ON this earth that Satan is POWERLESS against.

        And it is this: it is the ROSARY!

        Even if you are not Catholic, get a Rosary and pray it. (Go to http://www.startpage.com, which is google without them tracking your topic and IP address, and you can look up HOW to pray the Rosary.)

        Trust me on this one: Satan is POWERLESS against the Rosary.

        Yes, I KNOW it sounds like the Lone Ranger is off his rocker.

        But I’m actually ON it.

        – the Lone Ranger

        • BS. What will protect you is to kill them before they can murder you. When it starts it will be as nothing any truly could of mentally prepared for.

        • NAH Satans a lot smarter than these Goobers.

      25. @Mac-

        Thanks for posting the ‘A Bug’s Life’ snippet. I love it when people use simple but effective means to get the important message across! 🙂

        @Everyone else-
        It really IS quite obvious what is going to go down and soon. You won’t be able to run from it, hide from it or vote it away. The day approaches as sure as the sun rises and sets. What you CAN do is prepare in as many ways as possible. By being prepared to *any* degree, you are more of a service to your fellow man and yourselves than you think.

        By NOT being dependent on handouts, false promises and FEMA camps, you ARE the resistance. Everyone one of you who gives the middle finger salute to TPTB are the thorn in their side and they *know* it. It’s true that many of us here will probably die. It’s also true that many of the jack booted thugs are going to die as well. And they have families to feed and care for as well.

        -KNOW YOUR NEIGHBORS
        -KNOW WHERE THEY WORK
        -KNOW WHAT THEY DO

        It will be much, much easier to sort out the ones who you want around you and the ones you don’t. The government *wants* us all divided and oblivious to our neighbors. They do not want us coming together and forming alliances against the common enemy and by now, you’d better know who that really is!

        • Survive Its Death

      26. Today’s History Lesson

        Recruited by MI5: the name’s Mussolini. Benito Mussolini

        http://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/oct/13/benito-mussolini-recruited-mi5-italy

        blatant propaganda
        bought and paid for by government
        gotta watch those “journalists” !!!

        “For the British intelligence agency, it must have seemed like a good investment. Mussolini, then a 34-year-old journalist, was not just willing to ensure Italy continued to fight alongside the allies in the first world war by publishing propaganda in his paper. He was also willing to send in the boys to “persuade” peace protesters to stay at home.”

        “”The last thing Britain wanted were pro-peace strikes bringing the factories in Milan to a halt. It was a lot of money to pay a man who was a journalist at the time, but compared to the £4m Britain was spending on the war every day, it was petty cash,” said Martland.”

        hat tip Emeline over on Silent Country

      27. A serious confluence of events all around the world happening right now, in real life time. Hmmm….

        @everyone….if you didn’t see this link over at Rawles site, I suggest you check it out. It’s a short video with none other that Lloyd Blankfein, one of the head rats of banking suggesting that things might be dropping off a cliff shortly.

        I find it shocking that he would make such a statement publicly. BECAUSE…in the fantasy would that MSNBC lives in…all is well and great in the never ending ladder of higher and higher stocks!

        Look and his eyes and facial expressions as he speaks…

        http://www.silverdoctors.com/you-know-things-are-bad-when-even-lloyd-blankfein-warns-of-impending-financial-system-reset/

      28. How many times are we gonna read the same crap

      29. How many times are we gonna read the same crap

        • I dont know but I just read your crap twice and that was 2 X too many

          • VRF< Great response, I'm still chuckling. I'll take my humor where I can get. Trekker Out.

      30. As long as hillbilly goobers like chickenheart need they’re daily fix of doom porn to reassure themselves they’re not the damn fools they really are for spending their lives in abject fear and paranoia, petrified of the outside world and everyone they don’t know or understand, which is just about everything.

        • Well, thats just great, Al. Why don’t you enlighten us with some of your wise interpretations of what this all means.

          Does it mean we should all just sit around, dream of unicorns, eat skittles and fart rainbows?

          What have you done to prepare yourself? I mean, anyone can deny that we’re going to have a crash even though we’ve had several. But, what no one can deny is that we are definately in decline. How do you suggest we process that blatant truth? If unicorns, skilltles and rainbow farts don’t suit your fancy, feel free to enlighten the like of us idiots whose names you insultingly butchered.

          Oh, and one more thing: you must be really, really smart (at least smarter than me) because I didn’t realize that bravehart was a hillbilly and I didn’t know he as spending his life in abject fear of the outside world.

          Look, if you don’t have anything intelligent to add to the conversation without personal attacks, why are you here? We discuss stuff. Tell us WHY braveheart should not be paranoid, because, for the life of me, when you read crap like this article (which is all pretty much verifiable) you’re either a little bit worried about whats going to happen or *YOU*ARE*THE*IDIOT.

          A little paranoia is a good thing but we really want to hear from you and not just your personal attacks.

          Maybe it is you who is afraid to tell us the truth.

          • Not all Netranger. I was a prepper for many years prior to recently. You see, you can’t spend your life in fear of the future. I’ve discovered after years of being a prepper that it was all a giant waste. You become fearful of everyone, trust no one, and after 6 years of reading and hearing every day the world is going to fall apart, you come to realize that it’s not going to happen. Of course nobody can name an exact date on anything, but when people say the worlds ending every day for years on end and it doesn’t happen, the argument loses all credibility. Don’t believe it? Then why hasn’t all these bad things toppled the world already? As far as observations on braveheart,simply read his prior posts,it will confirm ALL I’ve said, unless you want to deny it.

      31. allegedly a total of 103 deaths, and 125 injuries attributed to school shootings since Obama became President. How many of these were planned and orchestrated, and how many were organic? Who knows? Are the shootings more prolific now than before Obama took office? Yes, by far.

        if this doesnt tell you what his agenda is for the guns in this country , than I dont know what will.

        many if not all of these are FF.. and those numbers are not true.
        but , lets say for argument sake they are factual… what does that tell you about this presidency and who is at the helm?

        • how many people have been wrongfully killed by cops in the same time period? I bet hat number is way above 500

          And because a dog is a family member i would include them too, so I bet that number is over 1000 combined

          so who’s the problem?

          • All of it is the problem, it’s just a matter of “degree”.

      32. Things are moving faster than we can post. Look at Iraq. Saudi Arabia/Qatar are financing the Sunni attacks. Saudi Arabia/Qatar are part of the Globalist Empire. The goal is to divide Iraq into 3 regions. Sunni, Kurdish and Shiite. The US has adequate military assets in large airbases in Turkey and naval bases in Bahrain/Kuwait, etc. So why the need to move more naval assets (a carrier group)into the area? Is the Sunni assault on the Shiites a cover for something else? Keep Iran and Hezbollah busy in Syria and Iraq then we attack Iran? Hmmm. Remember, the MSM is not there to inform you. It’s there to tell you what to think.

        • All that was a set up, arm Syria and arm Iraq then leave. Oh gee they are fighting!?!?

      33. In the 80’s, then speaker of the house Jim Wright of Texas was going through ethics trials for being caught with his crooked hand in the cookie jar. During the hearing while he was on the stand he pulled out his ace in the hole and said, paraphrasing “If the American people knew of our plans to crush a revolution, they would have our heads”. He made the statement as a way of blackmailing the ethic committee to go easy on him. The hearing immediately went into recess and in the end Jim Write retired with a golden parachute.

        I’ve tried to find the comment that Jim Wright made but it’s been erased from history. I heard it live on Public Radio on my way to work one morning so it’s only in my memory but it’s a memory that you don’t forget.

        • ALL politicians are part of the system of the beast and by association guilty. Even *if* they go into office with the ‘best of intentions’ it is not long before they are fully indoctrinated down the path to ruin.

          Wright was just another cog in the wheel of politics and was no angel- but none of them are. I’m wondering if the comments Wright made were due to the diverting of weapons in the Iran/Contra affair? A possibility for sure, but any comments made during his ‘trial’ should be part of the official congressional record and available to a FOIA request if required.

          h t tp://www.nytimes.com/1989/04/18/us/excerpts-from-charges-against-wright-by-the-house-panel.html?pagewanted=all

          • Newt Gingrich was a very ambitious politician, Wright made himself vulnerable and Gingrich exploited it to further his career. It was Gingrich that was at the forefront of the investigation of Wright. If it wasn’t Wright it would have been someone else if it was to Gingrich’s advantage and ambitions. The case gave Gingrich the resume to eventually become the majority leader. Sharks feeding on sharks.

      34. Great recovery. The Baltic Dry Index is down 60% this year. It’s flat for the last year. If it ain’t movin’, it ain’t sellin’.

      35. This has been going on, it now however is going high tech.

      36. 6/15/14 – Southern U.S. border flooded with illegal aliens, Iraq imploding … Obama jets to Palm Springs to play golf
        -Breitbart dot com

        More than 35,000 illegals entering TX each month
        -LA Times dot com

        Urged by local media (and news of Obama’s promises), minors from Mexico and Central America are clogging Border Patrol stations.

        “Border Patrol officials struggling to keep up with the increasing number of minors illegally crossing the Mexican border are not turning away persons with known gang affiliations.”

        “Nogales station alone is estimated to be holding 1,100 children who have crossed the border.”

        “Cabrera says the Rio Grande Valley has nine stations and the largest one, in McAllen, Texas, has a capacity of approximately 275 people. Cabrera says this station is seeing between 700 and 1,500 people DAILY and received 74 women and children in a 20-minute period earlier this week.”

        “Central American radio, television, other media, and religious groups have all encouraged people to move north to the United States.”
        -National Review dot com

      37. I am a Texan first & an American second!
        Remember the Alamo!!!!

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