Massive Humanitarian Crisis in Venezuela Could Have Been Prevented If the People Hadn’t Surrendered All Their Guns to a Corrupt Government Regime

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    This article was originally published by JD Heyes at NaturalNews.com

    For anyone interested in how to destroy a once-prosperous country and enslave the people, Venezuela provides an object, ongoing lesson.

    After more than a decade of failed socialist policies, the country is on the brink of implosion as its hungry, desperate citizens — those who haven’t already fled — appear on the verge of completely unwinding what remains of the civil society there.

    Worse, there isn’t much Venezuelans can do at this point to stop it without dying in large numbers.

    In recent days, Fox News published a story that makes the case for gun rights including interviews with an exiled dissident from the South American oil-rich nation who has been watching his fellow citizens have their rights and their future crushed by a tyrannical, authoritarian leader who made sure they could not mount a serious resistance:

    As Venezuela continues to crumble under the socialist dictatorship of President Nicolas Maduro, some are expressing words of warning – and resentment – against a six-year-old gun control bill that stripped citizens of their weapons.

    “Guns would have served as a vital pillar to remaining a free people, or at least able to put up a fight,” Javier Vanegas, 28, a Venezuelan English teacher now exiled in Ecuador, told the network. “The government security forces, at the beginning of this debacle, knew they had no real opposition to their force. Once things were this bad, it was a clear declaration of war against an unarmed population.” (Related: Venezuela nears total collapse as government now unable to provide food, water, electricity and protection for citizens.)

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    Our founders saw Venezuelan tyranny coming

    The effort to disarm Venezuelans began in earnest in 2012 under then-President Hugo Chavez. Under his direction, the National Assembly passed the “Control of Arms, Munitions and Disarmament Law,” with the goal to “disarm all citizens.”

    The law took effect the following year and only received minor pushback from a few pro-democracy opposition leaders. It banned the legal, commercial sale of all guns and ammunition to everyone except government organizations and entities (police, military, etc.). 

    For a time, Chavez ran a program that encouraged armed citizens to turn in their guns voluntarily in exchange for electrical goods. But in 2014 only a handful of guns — 37 — were turned in. The vast majority, or more than 12,500 firearms, were taken by force.

    Also that year, as Nicolas Maduro succeeded Chavez after his death, he continued the socialist policies begun by his predecessor. And as the country reeled from economic malaise that turned into full-blown decline, Maduro nevertheless spent $47 million enforcing the Chavez gun ban, “which has since included grandiose displays of public weapons demolitions in the town square,” Fox News reported.

    One former gun store owner told the network that he can now only sell fishing supplies since the ban took effect. He added that he can’t sell any weaponry whatsoever, and that includes slingshots. Even BB ammo and airsoft rifles and pistols can only be issued to police and military personnel. Anyone caught carrying or selling a firearm now faces 20 years in prison.

    “Venezuelans didn’t care enough about it. The idea of having the means to protect your home was seen as only needed out in the fields. People never would have believed they needed to defend themselves against the government,” said Vanegas, the network reported.

    “If guns had been a stronger part of our culture, if there had been a sense of duty for one to protect their individual rights, and as a show of force against a government power – and had legal carry been a common thing – it would have made a huge difference,” he told Fox News.

    This is exactly why our founders wrote the Second Amendment and included it as one of the first contained in the Bill of Rights. Because they understood that governments, historically, have trended toward tyranny when there is nothing standing in the way.

    Read more about the collapse of Venezuela at Collapse.news.

    Sources include:

    FoxNews.com

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    TheNationalSentinel.com

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      1. Well,pretty simple really,don’t give up anything that allows you to try and maintain freedom,tis a lot more then just firearms.

        • When ANY govt goon tries to take ANY guns the people need to immediately hang them. Not wait until the “govt agent/police” show up to do their dirty work for them,
          The POLITICIAN must pay with their lives for this tyranny against their fellow man!!!

        • Warchild, spot on. If anyone surrenders their guns, they’re history. I know damn well I’m not giving up squat.

          • ICE Orders 375 million rounds of ammo? That’s 1 boolit for each of ya…

            ht tps://www.naturalnews.com/2018-12-18-ice-contract-to-acquire-375-million-rounds-of-battle-rifle-ammunition-invasion.html

            • What about all the ammo that Obummer had stored at Post Office, NOAA, Social Security admin?
              What about targets of pregnant women and old guys in coveralls that DHS used? This was all done during Obummer the TRAITOR’S rule.

              Do you think your freindly helpful NWO controlled government might be planning on killing American Citizens?

              They are from the government and there to help you.

              * * * Help you DIE. Genocide. Commie and NWO leftist commies will kill anyone and everyone that does not lick the tyrant states boots. That is why the leftist want your guns. So you are easy to kill.

              I despise communism and communist style control mechanisms. So do all of my friends and family. We serve the current commander in chief and will back him up if the NWO commie liar media tries to impeach. If the President calls, The American People will STAND against the commie leftist media liars.

              Thank God President Trump is calling our troops home.
              The American People elected him to prevent war, stay out of wars. Peace is the only sane option.

              At the same time our military needs rebuilt. Peace with a big stick if provoked. secure the border.

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              (That is why that I will be ordering my metals elsewhere on day after christmas.) I do not believe in censorship.

              Drugs are for foolish decieved people. keep your mind body spirit clean fit and in good condition, be ready. I have and do. That is why I have survived. Eat right. Exercise. Live right. Keep your mind body spirit clean and fit.

              A person that does that is very difficult for government and elite rulers, to manipulate control or defeat. When all hell breaks loose you will be ready to take positive action for a desireable outcome.

              The NWO elite controllers are unleashing demons from hell upon humanity. Jesus Christ is your only hope. Otherwise you will be decieved. Don’t believe all you read hear see. Big deception is near.

              Be strong in Body Mind Spirit. Get in shape. Stack the odds in your favor.

        • Fucken Liars. Venezuela’s problems are much more to do with the crippling monetary sanctions the US and their cabal of criminal nations imposed on Venezuela. The only thing left holding the Government together is socialism. Depressing Oil prices to crush nations is no different than crippling the N Dakota oil sand pits shutting them down and creating Ghost towns. If the cost of producing the oil from the ground cost more than the prices it sells for, its a crushing economic stranglehold.

          Authors need to stop fucken lying and omitting this important fact. Get the facts not phony anti communism Propaganda.

          BTW/ NEVER EVER GIVE UP YOUR GUN!!! Here is what happened when the US Government Disarmed the First Americans. Genocide Murder happens.

          The Wounded Knee Massacre (also called the Battle of Wounded Knee) occurred on December 29, 1890,[5] near Wounded Knee Creek (Lakota: Čhaŋkpé Ópi Wakpála) on the Lakota Pine Ridge Indian Reservation in the U.S. state of South Dakota.

          The previous day, a detachment of the U.S. 7th Cavalry Regiment commanded by Major Samuel M. Whitside intercepted Spotted Elk’s band of Miniconjou Lakota and 38 Hunkpapa Lakota near Porcupine Butte and escorted them 5 miles (8.0 km) westward to Wounded Knee Creek, where they made camp. The remainder of the 7th Cavalry Regiment, led by Colonel James W. Forsyth, arrived and surrounded the encampment. The regiment was supported by a battery of four Hotchkiss mountain guns.[6]

          On the morning of December 29, the U.S. Cavalry troops went into the camp to disarm the Lakota. One version of events claims that during the process of disarming the Lakota, a deaf tribesman named Black Coyote was reluctant to give up his rifle, claiming he had paid a lot for it.[7] Simultaneously, an old man was performing a ritual called the Ghost Dance. Black Coyote’s rifle went off at that point, and the U.S. army began shooting at the Native Americans. The disarmed Lakota warriors did their best to fight back.[8]

          By the time the massacre was over, more than 150-300 men, women, and children of the Lakota had been killed and 51 were wounded (4 men and 47 women and children, some of whom died later); some estimates placed the number of dead at 300.[3]

          Wounded Knee.

      2. we all need to re-read those words, “..If guns had been a stronger part of our culture, if there had been a sense of duty for one to protect their individual rights, and as a show of force against a government power – and had legal carry been a common thing – it would have made a huge difference..” . Here, most of us agree that we have firearms as a part of our individual, perhaps familial, culture. But it is not a majority viewpoint unfortunately. For the 2nd statement on the ‘sense of duty’ seems to be forgotten all too often. Finally, I read of things like the bump-stock ban, magazine size limits, particular tactical options prohibited.. or the need to apply and gain a special permit to own a fully automatic, or have to apply for a CWP… or just to open-carry.. and realize that we’re not so far from being a Venezuela right here, right now. Correct me please – but where in the 2A are such limits written?

        • And it doesn’t help that Americans have allowed cultural marxists to take over most of the educational institutions and have allowed them to teach their perverted world views

      3. this article is absolutely right I have been living in the USA embraced the constitution and my flag is the USA but I can tell you I still have family in Venezuela and I’m sending money still with the dollars I send it isn’t enough were the US dollar there’s inflation that’s how bad things are a jar of olives is 65 dollars and the salaries just went up to 10 dollars an month. I tend to stock up in food all the time living in the USA its a habit from Venezuela beaucse of food shortages NEVER GIVE UP YOUR GUNS EVEN IF THEY PASS STUPID LAWS DONT GIVE THEM UP YOU WILL NEVER NO WHEN U WILL NEED THEM!!!!!

        • Venezuelan In USA —- Fake

      4. If they tell me I’m facing 20 years in prison if caught with a firearm I will certainly kill the monkey{s} in the costume{s} and dump them somewhere before I just surrender. That is the key to defeating tyranny. If their enforcers are too scared of dying by our hands there can be no tyranny.

        • Menzo, I already drew my line in the sand way back when.

      5. 20 years in a Venezuelan prison is a death sentence. When that’s the option fighting is the only logical choice.

      6. If legislation ever passes to make guns illegal, or another Obama Marxist monkey as POTUS declares marshal law & negates the 2nd amendment by EO, then it would have already been too late. A line in the sand MUST be drawn early on, before tyranny gets a foot hold. And the Marxists (Politicians, Judges, etc..) that “try” to erode the 2nd amendment MUST pay a price for even trying.!!!!!

        • You mean a the line in the sand or the head in the sand? The current POTUS just banned bump stocks and declared his support for red flag confiscation laws!! As the great lord of MAGA declared, “TAKE THE GUNS! WORRY ABOUT DUE PROCESS LATER”!!

          Nothing will happen–Trump will sign every other confiscatory law, and will give the BATFE alot more money. But there will be no wall, no Hillary indictment, no 2nd Amendment protections, no end to the NDAA, no end to the surveillance, no end to the corporate welfare, no VOTER ID laws, no end to the social media suppression of conservative online speech.

          Keyboard commandos have been making them Marxists pay, haven’t they?

      7. Thats what you get when you elect a socialist hardline bus driver to run your country, wait till 2020 when the dummocraps elect a airhead socialist bar tender to be president, will make the comedy of the DJT presidency look like the good old days.

        • She won’t be old enough yet in 2020, her election will have to wait till 2024. Biden, maybe Sanders or Warren, will probably fill in the four year gap while we wait for her.

          • Biden can fill a comedy show with his recorded misstatements. He is a clown. Obama had him “protect his six”. The Obama strategy was don’t put a qualified successor behind you. Warren is wounded by the false American Indian claims which she used for admittance in education (thereby taking a position for an actual “person of color”). Sanders is the candidate for the democrats but is unlikely to get the nod. He is against job eviscerating “Free Trade” and called for the US to abandon much of its Middle East “adventurism”. this philosophically on these two issues aligned with what Trump campaigned for. They’re lining up some fresh meat that is untainted by a voting record that hurt the middle class.

        • Nail,
          You should point out that Hawaii just elected just as big of a nutcase Josh “gungrabber” Green as attorney general in a state where all guns must be registered(for future confiscation).

          • Oops,
            Lt governor not Attorney general.

          • Yea, we are surrounded by ignorant fools, 54% turn out

        • He was never elected he stole and cheated in the elections all nations in South America do not recognize this government. Just like the democrats do here stealing the elections

      8. We Americans will roll over willingly because we have too much to lose. Those who fight back will be eliminated quietly. The government gets what it wants when it wants it. Embrace communism now to make things easier for you in the future.

        • You’re a nut job that belongs over at MSNBC.

        • Sheeple, f#$% you! Go away and embrace your .gov slavemaster.

        • We Americans will roll over willingly because we have too much to lose.

          Probably true.

          I can’t think of another time in History, except the America Revolution that people fought back against gun confiscation.

          The problem is what are we willing to sacrifice? When do you start shooting and killing the government?

          Is it when the ban everything over 10 round mags? 6 round mags? one round mags?

      9. Once you give up your gun rights you immediately go from citizen to slave!

        • When the minute men fired on the British at Lexington and Concord, they did it because the British were trying to seize the powder stores at the armory.

          They stood up to a tyrannical government trying to take their guns.

          These Venezuelan dipshits voluntarily gave up their guns.

      10. Communism needs to be abolished globally. A massive NATO operation is required to carpet-bomb and invade ALL communist (socialist) countries and and destroy all remnants of communism and imprison all communist for life.

        China and Russia are at the top of the list.

        The problem is that America and many European countries like Germany are already controlled by Russia, Israel and China.

        President Trump is an Israeli (Zionist-Lakudnik-Bolshevik) puppet and lacks integrity and all of the characteristics that are required for such an undertaking.

        Unfortunately, America needs a benevolent dictator not a Bolshevik puppet.

        • China and Russia are at the top of the list.

          China and Russia only have a communist leadership. Their society is 100% capitalism.

          • John Stiner

            Your confusing authoritarianism with communism. China is marginally economically capitalist in allowing capitalist business into their nation. The cornerstone of communism is government control of the economy and wealth redistribution. Using that definition the US is likely as communistic, likely more so than present day Russia. Authoritarianism can come from capitalist, crony capitalist, communist, (communist “light” socialist) or monarchy. In that respect its China, then Russia with the US thank God trailing a ways behind but working diligently at catching up.

            • I’m not confusing anything. I’m not concerned with what the general population thinks, says or does. They have no power to influence society whatsoever.

              In communist countries like China and Russia the rulers utilize a fascist economy with a communist dictator. And yes, Putin is an old school dyed-in-the-wool KGB communist of the first order, who’s Jewish Neo-Bolshevik oligarchs run the economy.

          • 100% … not quite.

      11. The USA is following the Venezuelan path. Americans complete take for granted and FORSAKE (WILL NOT FIGHT FOR, save for a few die hard 2nd Amendment believers)their rights. The USA is on a complete fail trajectory because the population has had bred out of them that fierce fight for your rights mentality, and where it is not been bred out, it has been brainwashed out of generations. The sole sickening fact is that the individual responsibility for and the WILL to PERSONALLY SACRIFICE for their rights is GONE, FINIS, ABSENT in this population, and if they will NOT TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY to maintain their GOD GIVEN rights, they DO NOT DESERVE TO KEEP THEM. End of story. The USA is a nation now of totally cucked and spineless cowards. When the rights are gone, they DESERVE what comes with that spineless surrender, all manner of totalitarian abuses and genocide….IF THEY WILL NOT FIGHT FOR THEM. GOD GIVEN, BUT NOT GOD PRESERVED, that is on men to PRESERVE AND HONOR their rights. If you will not, yo NEVER deserved them to begin with.

        • Well put my friend !!

      12. USA, Incorporated

        We are Incorporated and the people in control don’t consider us to have rights, just privileges which they can revoke at any time.

        Haven’t you heard of white privilege?

        You black, red, and brown people need to wake up to the fact that you are being brainwashed into thinking that anyone is privileged. If there is white privilege, there can be privilege of any color.

        We have rights. The Second Amendment simply states the obvious, our God given right as a human being to self defense. Guns because the government has guns. Unless and until Government and the Military gives up their guns (including UN forces) don’t expect the people to give up theirs.

        _

      13. I’m not so sure that owning guns would stop a government. We’re in pretty dire straits here, in what used to be the USA. The government has destroyed the currency, the demographics, the culture, and just about most other important things. And no one is shooting. Except one idiot leftist.

      14. On Stop The Crime dot com, Tavares says that energy efficient windows are dangerous. Like starting a fire with a magnifying glass, the windows warp causing them to become concave and to direct sunlight and start fires.

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        • The optics involved in the magnifying glass requires convexity, not concavity of the lens to concentrate the light.

          In fact if I remember correctly, magnifying glass lenses are double convex.

          If the window bowed inward, it is concave, then nothing.

          If the window bows outward then you get a single convex lens. I don’t think that the concentration at the very long focal length would produce any serious heating.

          You could actually calculate the focal length on a real window situation, produce an artificial convexity, set up a paper target, and measure the temps with a simple infrared thermometer.

          There really is nothing in the literature about house fires being started by these windows.

          The Insurance Companies would be all over it, if it were true.

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          • bb:

            I meant convex.

            You make a good point about insurance companies. I don’t know whether or not it is true. Something to investigate further.

            These windows are double pane.

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            • The part about starting fires is stretching it, but it is possible. I’ve replaced a few walls of siding on separate bldgs. due to being melted from the angle of the suns rays bouncing off the adjacent walls windows. The tyvek wasn’t scorched but it was clearly starting to feel the heat. If this was in a lot warmer climate, I believe a fire would be possible.

              • Remember that cellulose based materials (incl wood products) require at the very minimum (for extremely dried out wood in particular) about 360F.

                I don’t think that is ever going to be achievable from reflected sunlight.

                All the polymer based siding products have softening temperatures between about 200 – 300F.

                Plastics that have an Oxygen Index > 21 (which is the percentage of Oxygen in the air)all have a self extinguishing property and will not sustain combustion.

                Teflon 95, PVC 45 – 50, PE < 20 Low Density PE will auto-ignite at about 625F

                Tyvek house wrap will auto-ignite at about 750F.

                I don't ever want to personally be exposed to reflections off those windows etc, if we see anything close to those required temps 🙂

                <bb

      15. So I’m told :

        Guns are bad !

        Police are Bad !

        Give up your guns !

        Only let the police have guns !

        The police will protect you !

        What are those that say these things missing?

        • Police are only bad to the black people. If you are white, it is OK.

      16. The fascist drivel in this blog is overwhelming, but not as much as the utter ignorance of history and the role of the US govt in the region, let alone the rest of the world.The US is attacking Venezuela and has been indirectly since Chavez came in power, when they realized he was not for sale. They have tightened the screws in the last years fomenting revolt and unrest discreetly at home and overtly abroad just as they do any other country that does not submit. The main reason the US can do this is the bubble of ignorance that most Americans live and grow up in. Americans: Stop attacking Venezuela

        • You are some kind of stupid.
          Venezuela has the worlds largest
          proven oil reserves and you can’t make your
          people very rich because they are idiots.
          Socialists/Democrats are a virus, that need to be
          exterminated.
          This is not the fault of the USA, This is all
          on Venezuela and the GIMMEDATS that have
          ruined their society.

          • rellik

            Venezuela was messed with by the US / Global Financial network because he didn’t fall in line. Saudi Arabia is a welfare state funded by huge oil reserves. The difference is Saudi Arabia plays ball. Both have the same population (actually Saudi is a bit larger). Saudi is further handicapped by an environment that can’t grow anything with potable water at a premium.

            • K2,
              I like your insightful comments.
              I will add that the Saudis are further
              handicapped by their Moslem philosophy.
              Venezuela is handicapped by greed.
              Never register or surrender your guns.

              • Venezuela is likely more inept too but the greatest difference is an intentional sustained economic attack upon Venezuela with the intent of toppling the government. You can’t run an oil based economy if sanctions and embargo’s prevent replacement parts. Venezuela didn’t play ball bypassing the US dollar (a grave sin the brought down Iraq & Libya). As the economy fell, increased communistic forced by decree redistribution added to the collapse. Like most problems there is more than one cause but the economic attack is at the top. Communism is a failure because it just doesn’t produce wealth. When you’re sitting on a sea of oil, essentially a huge bank account, wealth creation is unnecessary so it can function unless their are forces that sabotage it.

              • Both countries are handicapped by 84 IQ, before any other shortcomings.

              • relik

                Link Is From Lou Rockwell Explaining The Below.

                h ttps://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/12/thierry-meyssan/the-united-states-are-preparing-a-war-between-latin-american-states/

                Want the root cause of mayhem? It’s not Islamic Terrorism (which the US has aided in Libya and Syria), it’s not the remnants of communism which has been replaced with predatory capitalism, its globalist corporatist control of governments. Along with the Wolfowitz Doctrine, the Cebrowski Doctrine doesn’t just guarantee conflict, it facilitates it.

                The Cebrowski Doctrine was designed to change military culture in order to destroy the State structures of the regions which were not connected to the global economy.

        • Venezuela is fucked because they are ruled by socialist ifiots, elected by idiots like yourself,,,

          • Socialist idiots?

            No.

            Those people are very smart. They were able to take control and keep control of the country under the pretended “socialism”.

            They are very smart in their tryanical rule.

            Where they are stupid is not adopting another currency. They should adopt the American dollar as their official currency. Eight other countries have done that.

            • re USA:

              Those people are very smart. They were able to take control and keep control of the country under the pretended “freedom”.

              They are very smart in their tyrannical rule.

        • Carlo Salvo, the US is NOT responsible for Venezuela’s current predicament. The people chose a communist POS to run their country back in the 90s and he sold them the biggest bill of goods. He refused to spend any of his nation’s oil money on renovating the infrastructure which was in serious decay, especially the electrical grid there. After Chavez died and Maduro took over, he replaced all of the most experienced people in the state-run oil company with his own cronies who don’t know which way is up. Venezuela has some of the world’s largest known oil reserves and is a member of OPEC but yet they have to IMPORT their own gasoline now. Why is that? Their production is way down from what it could be. Chavez-Maduro and their brand of socialism caused all of this, NOT THE US. My late wife was from Cuba and told me stories about her life under Castro’s brand of socialism that blew me away. Cuba even today still has a Soviet-style economy where all basic necessities are still rationed. Socialism has failed everywhere it’s been tried and will never work.

        • The Achilles heel of any guerrilla force isn’t necessarily guns but rather ammunition. A metal shop can make guns from Zip to STEN but primers and propellant pose a real technical problem. Even if it can be made the facility can’t reasonably be hid in a basement.

          • True.Such partisan weapons are improvised firearms to get the drop on the enemy and then use their arms and ammunition.

            There are quite a few reloaders to save money but additionally just in case. That generally began to be common phenomena in the early eighties in my state due to the Evil Empire.

          • Kevin,while firearms important do not limit yourself,start with the tm31-210,put out by our govt.,then,move on from there research wise.

            The real way to fight oppression is from within,oooops,wrong switch hit at power plant,ooooops,food delivery late,the options of ooooops are endless,we will need to use our brains we want to fight back long term.

            • I’m old school and still using both education and voting. Both are functional. Elections can only be thrown if they’re close. Pro Second Amendment States have limited gun laws because of the power of the vote. 90+ % of the corrupt politicians are re-elected. You get the government you deserve. Family will meet for Christmas. Gifts that educate, books for those that do read is in effect a stealth antibiotic to fight this political infection.

              • K2,
                I stupidly still vote and do my best to educate, but I don’t believe for a second that is does much good. We get the best government that money can buy, not what we “deserve”.
                We live in a time where there are far more GIMMEDATS than there are producers and technology allows fewer and fewer people to produce more and more, thus supporting even more GIMMEDATS.
                GIMMEDATS vote for taking your money, freedoms, and as our system is now set up there is not a Effing thing you can do about it,
                unless you think outside the “BOX”.

                • If voting didn’t matter Alabama gun laws would be identical to those in NYC. 90+ % of Congress is Re-Elected. Cutting the welfare state is a noble thought but given the US foreign policy of world wide warfare WWIII will be forthcoming.

                • Rellik, I don’t vote because I know it’s useless. I’ve tried to educate over the years only to get blank stares and the ‘DUH’ look from people. I gave up the educating about 10 years ago. As far as the ‘gimmedats’ are concerned, all I have for them is hot lead.

            • Warchild

              We’re way off from the Warsaw Ghetto uprising if ever. This mess can be reversed through the political process.

        • Stop waiting to be rescued.

          It is more fun to whine and bitch on the way to the gas chamber then to fight back.

      17. One possible survival strategy, as well as asking what happens to their blue collars, is to ask how Venezuela’s remaining middle class still functions.

      18. March 8, 1983
        Reagan discusses the USSR as the Evil Empire at a National Conference of Evangelicals.
        1984
        Tensions are heightened and concern about George Orwell’s 1984 novel.

        Oliver North gives Congressional testimony and a Senator asks questions about Rex 84 in an open hearing.

        Alex Jones makes a documentary about FEMA camps.

        1985 Red Dawn comes out with a combination of Soviet Spetnaz and infiltrators from Nicaragua and El Salvador.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_I4WgBfETc

        So yeah, lots of people in my state became reloaders.

      19. Off subject sort of, If you haven’t seen the morracan beheadig video , The sounds the girl made sounded like she was drugged , And what were two young girls hiking alone in a Muslim country ,except to show how wonderful Muslim countries are.? They look like those three girls that hold the long refugees welcome sign?

      20. That was one of the most popular refugees welcome photos and now I can’t find it .Iremember that one girl had the curly red hair. I hope someone better than me can find out.

      21. shtfplan told us that Venezuelans had collected some basic off-roading kind-of supplies, which were never particularly confiscated by their govt. They never particularly kept those things, by practicing violence.

        It begs the question of the 99%’s ability to think and act, independently.

        I live on the edges of a desert. Your country looks very green, to me.

      22. You cannot fight demons or Helel ben Shachar (Hebrew for Shining One, Son of the Morning [Isaiah 14:12]) with firearms, they only work on their human minions. Without being saved through grace by Jesus Christ, you have already lost.

      23. Maybe that benevolent government will give all the guns back just to solve the humanitarian crisis?

      24. Guns certainly have a place in civilian hands but they’re no panacea. Guns are part of freedom but aren’t freedom in themself. An armed population doesn’t guarantee functioning self government and honesty in it for if it did the US would be a pillar of those virtues. Guns in civilian hands could prevent mass genocide by means that can be countered by an armed population. Guns in civilian hands are useless against bio-viral, radioactive and chemical; however those weapons, the nature of them being indiscriminate, are not generally useful in government tyranny with a political goal. In the end there is always a political goal because that is what defines victory.

        “War is politics by other means”
        Carl von Clausewitz

      25. I ask my Dad what he would do if they come to confiscate his guns. He said, “that damn first bunch want get them that’s for damn sure.” 🙂

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