Marijuana Becomes the Last Crime to be Decriminalized in D.C.

by | Nov 5, 2014 | Headline News | 302 comments

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    marijuana-DCIn the area plagued by ‘taxation without representation’ that has affectionately become known as the District of Criminals – where the federal government and lobbyists make deals so shady it would make Al Capone blush – possession of marijuana has been legalized by way of a referendum during last night’s election.

    And all while the Republicans took the Senate on Capitol Hill…

    Allowing possession of up to two ounces and growing up to six plants, weed has pretty much become the last crime to become all but officially legalized there.

    NPR reported:

    Voters in Washington, D.C., have approved the legal use of marijuana for recreational purposes. Supporters of the D.C. marijuana measure had a 65-29.5 percent lead as of 9:09 p.m. ET, with 20,727 voting in favor.

    The D.C. case could create friction between the city’s leaders and Congress — particularly if, as many expect, Republicans take control of both chambers. The District’s Initiative 71 includes provisions that allow residents to grow six or fewer marijuana plants in their homes and possess up to 2 ounces of the drug for their own use.

    And it was approved handily by voters.

    It is, after all, the city that elected Marion Barry back to the D.C. City Council and later back to the D.C. Mayor’s office after he was busted smoking crack cocaine in a hotel room on camera while he was mayor. His campaign staff went with the all-too-appropriate slogan “He May Not Be Perfect, But He’s Perfect for D.C.”

    After all, it is the big fish who are engaged in the real crime while in power. Their city is more like a haven for scheming and organized theft than it is a place of lawmakers, diplomats and officials (though they happily wear the mantle of their elected and appointed titles).

    This is the place where illegal executive orders, illegal wars and unconstitutional acts are brazenly entered into official policy and too big to actually be considered crimes.

    Prostitution long ago passed proportions of plague and epidemic, instead becoming standard parts of lobbying packages and the generic fodder for political blackmail. Pork barrel legislation and other corrupt abuses of power come just as standard. The members of Congress can officially speed and get away with other petty offenses just by virtue of their office, while foreign diplomats are all but untouchable from even the most heinous crimes under treaty protections.

    And aside from occasional isolated incidents, politicians and diplomats can virtually expect to never be prosecuted for their actions. What happens in D.C. stays in D.C.

    Marijuana, on the other hand, was originally criminalized under dubious circumstances in the vacuum of the end of alcohol prohibition and heavy influence from industrial titans who saw hemp as a threat to other commodities they controlled.

    At the very worst, marijuana has been a vice that has allowed the prison-industrial complex to cash in and fill private prisons with non-violent drug offenders.

    It seems ironic that this petty crime would finally join the ranks of all the actual sin and misdeeds that make this notorious city so odorous. But even then, it is no surprise at the hypocrisy, given that some members of Congress introduced legislation to prevent the city from allowing legalization after Mayor Vincent Gray decriminalized it earlier in the year, should voters decide to approve the measure for full legalization.

    Back in June, this happened:

    An amendment that would make it impossible for the District of Columbia to lessen penalties for marijuana possession — and possibly to legalize the drug — passed Wednesday in the House Committee on Appropriations, drawing a rebuke from the District’s mayor.


    Rep. Andy Harris (R-Md.), who proposed the amendment in committee, said that his background in medicine motivated his efforts to block the District law.

    “As a physician, I have read study after study on the devastating effects of marijuana use, especially on developing brains of teenagers,” Harris, who is an anesthesiologist, said in a statement. “Congress has the authority to stop irresponsible actions by local officials, and I am glad we did for the health and safety of children throughout the District.”


    “Representative Harris can’t overturn the marijuana decriminalization laws of the 18 states that have decriminalized marijuana so he has stooped to using autocratic, anti-democratic power to seek to overturn our local laws,” said Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-D.C.) in a statement on Tuesday.

    How that amendment could affect last night’s vote remains to be seen, but the ACLU released a report detailing how D.C. has the highest per capita number of arrests for possession of marijuana in the entire country.

    ACLU Attorney Paul Zuckerberg commented, “Not only do we lead the nation in marijuana arrests per capita, but 90.9 percent of people arrested in the District for marijuana possession are black.”

    Oregon and Alaska also voted to legalize marijuana in yesterday’s elections, while measures in Florida failed despite strong showings that indicate the national attitude towards the criminalization of this drug has changed significantly.


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      1. I bet the Dems. are passing the joint tonight. They gotta have something to calm they’re nerves. Trekker Out.

        • The breweries and distilleries hate this. They don’t want you to grow something at home for free (MJ grows almost anywhere)that can replace the alcohol they sell for billions annually.

          From The Daily Sheeple: Cop rapes woman at gunpoint. Cop was a POS from the start, and a veteran and reservist. So much for all the soldier worship.

          • Florida needed 60% of the Vote to Pass the Medical Pot Amendment. Looks like they only got 58%. So out Puff Puff Pass Pot Amendment failed. And the Pharmaceutical companies won this battle to be the exclusive drug pushers. The Legal System and Private Prison system won too, as they can now keep their incarceration occupancy rate near 100%. What ever it takes to keep Wall Street Fat and happy. That’s organized crime.

            • Silver plunging again, Trading at $15.52 today. I see $10 / OZ by years end. FYI- I sold all my silver @$42.00/OZ back March 2012 time frame.

              Don’t fall in love with anything or PM’s. They all break your heart over and over again. Just saying.. WWTI

              • Gold Trading down another $20 to $1147 Today- What’s going to happen is massive Margin calls and a greater sell off. I predict Gold to be less than $1000 By end of the year.

                By you red thumbing me, means you are on the losing end, and getting your asses handed to day after day, cause you bought the Hyped up BS PM’s at the peak. We could go back and look at the Posts that said $5000 Gold. I laugh!!

                • Yeah go ahead and Red Thumb me. And its 82 Deg’s here in Florida today. lol RE: BOL- Location Location when the Grid collapses, where do you want to be, to keep warm during the winter?? No Place Like Home!!

                  • Mac Slavo says:

                    “Allowing possession of up to two ounces and growing up to six plants, weed has pretty much become the last crime to become all but officially legalized there.”

                    So “weed” is “crime”???

                    Mac, would you please elaborate on that bit of intellectual musing.

                    For the sake of us dullards in SHTFplan land, Mac, please explain why “weed” is “crime.”

                    Caveat: I won’t hold my breath.


                    BTW: If the “people” voted for legalization, what’s the problem?

                    Don’t you believe in “democracy” Mac???

                  • Same, same in AZ WWHTI. Next week will be paradise here while the Polar Vortex freezes the rest of the country. AZ is moving again and I see lots of signs of activity.

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                  • It’s way past time to end prohibition. How many people have they murdered over pot? How many lives have they ruined? How far have we all been set back, because they don’t want industrial hemp?

                    Expect prohibition to continue, despite a few states deciding enough is enough.

              • I laugh right along side of you. Every day is a new “end of the world as we know it” prediciton, but somehow the sun rises and my 401K keeps getting bigger.

                • “Somehow the sun rises and my real estate portfolio keeps getting bigger” <– That's what they said before the last crash, idiot.

            • Nothing in the constitution gives government the right to ban anything which is why prohibition was done via a constitutional amendment. The government learned nothing from that failed experiment. No one who thinks pot should be legalized condones the use of it by minors so the so the comment by Rep. Andy Harris is a false, strawman (it’s for the children) argument ” since alcohol does the same thing to teenage brain development. It’s also a poor argument because there are laws against teens drinking that work so well to prevent underage drinking. Prohibition of anything creates a black market for the banned item that is completely unregulated. If pot were made legal tomorrow the people that would smoke it would be the same people doing it now in the shadows with a few exceptions. In addition, industrial hemp has hundreds of uses that are very inexpensive compared to their synthetic equivalents. There is a company in Canada that makes roof shingles that last over 50 years compared to the asphalt shingles that last 10 to 15 years and that is just the tip of the iceberg. Time to wake up to the realities of a failed drug war.

              • @Tom T I agree the so-called “war on drugs” has been a failure (if the goal was to stop people from taking certains). But, it will be an ongoing war. There are too many people out there, whos’ paycheck and retirement depends on this war to continue. Think of all the local LEOs who are getting the uber-tactial super cool military weapons and equipment to insure that Officer Safety comes safe at the end of his 0:30 no-knock swat raid? Just like the war on povery, war on crime, we’re stuck with this war on drugs.

              • I, for one, would feel a lot better if I believed the stupidity in DC came from pot use. I think any kind of smoking is stupid. But the Federal Gov has no right to tell the states what they can do inside the state. They want to stop the movement between states fine.

              • Still think voting doesn’t matter….. If you voted and helped the cause last night, pat yourself on the back. If your the typical prepper that says voting doesn’t change anything, you should thank some of us that did our job last night to help give the middle finger to barry ojangles.

                • Indy, First you don’t speak for me as a Prepper, and why I gave you a Red Thumbs down for your comment. And 2nd, Since you chose to sit on your ass and do NOTHING yesterday for voting as you claimed in previous emails, discouraging people from voting, I don’t want to hear another complaint from you until the next election. You chose your destiny.

                  • whosaturd, I would like you to post “an email” where I said don’t vote…… crickets I’ll be here waiting.

                • Indy,
                  You do REMEMBER the whole reason the Democrats took control of the of the Senate and Obama was elected President was because of the GROSS incompetence of previous Bush Administration? You remember, the fake reasons for invading two countries, killing hundreds of thousands of people in those countries, the 9/11 incompetence, the Katrina incompetence, the trillions of dollars that went missing, the billions of dollars gifted to Halliburton and Becthel Corp., and the list could go on for several pages. Voting changes exactly what??? The faces of the whores in office selling America to the highest bidder?? Continue the illusion if you wish, I’ll pass!!!

                  • SD Mule, long time no hear from, how have you been?

                  • Good Braveheart, how about yourself?

                  • This “takeover” in congress might be what propels hillary to the white house. Think about it.

                    Obam got selected, because the sheeple were sick and tired of bush — they voted for as close to opposite to bush as they could get (even though they’re cousins, but we didn’t know that then).

                    Now, what’s the opposite of a relatively poor black, married man?

                    A rich white lesbian woman.

                    Trust me, it will make perfect sense to the sheeple.

                • If you think you accomplished anything by replacing one bunch of crooks with another bunch of crooks think back to the last time the republicans took the house, senate, AND the presidency. Did anything get better? no, It continued the downward slide into Socialism, just a little slower because the citizenry was getting upset. They backed off for awhile then it was full steam ahead again.

                • “Still think voting doesn’t matter….. If you voted and helped the cause last night, pat yourself on the back. If your the typical prepper that says voting doesn’t change anything, you should thank some of us that did our job last night to help give the middle finger to barry ojangles.”

                  You accomplished nothing, other than to pat yourself on the back and make yourself feel better. The only person you gave the middle finger to is yourself, looking at yourself in the mirror. You got exactly what you voted for: a packed house full of warmongers who will happily start beating the war drums within ONE month, tops. Congratulations. If you like your WW3, you can keep it.

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            • What’s gong to be funny is to see all the delusional and how they react when they see that even after a sweeping vote like yesterday….that still nothing changes. Maybe, MAYBE then they will actually have a true awakening.

              • BJ,

                I believe things CAN CHANGE. But, I also realize that what took years to create, will take time to dismantle.

                Take one day at a time.

                • I think it is just not in the cards for us to have yet another chance…..which could only be possible through a 2nd revolutionary war and total reset. Not going to happen, it’s not in His timeline.

                • You’re talking about dismantling 140 or so years of trash.

                  • BTW, I made it through the surgery yesterday. I’ll find out what the total damage is in about 10 days. They gave me some pain pills that really knocks my dick in the dirt, so I’m using my nifty little pill cutter, and cutting these bad boys in half.

                    …either that, or I’ll just be wonderin’ around behind little animals… 🙂

                • It takes some rope, guillotines, tall lampposts, and someone to wipe the law books clean. Pretty sure that doesn’t take very long.

                • You’re not going to vote yourself freedom. Voting is a complete waste of time. Freedom will come from one thing and one thing only: putting bullets in the mother fuckers who control this nation.

              • BJ, it’s not going to happen. If any thing mattes will get worse. the party of evil, now has nothing to lose, so they will go all out to force their agenda on us. And the party of stupid&spineless wimps will doing nothing except compromise and call for their members to be “moderate”. We’re still screwed.

                • Lol @ “the party of evil” so which party is that? They’re the same group of evil sociopaths that want to rule your life. Obama or Bush Jr., there is/was no difference. Clinton/Bush Sr., there was no difference. Reagan was the hero? Sure, he did a fantastic job of perpetuating the warfare state.

                  • I wish I could give you a 100 thumbs up

              • It won’t change…. unless!

                You get involved. After most elections, the people go back to ignoring politics and back to leading their lives. And that there is the problem. The only way, from this point forward to affect change would be to focus like a laser beam on what they all do and if they look like they’re not on track you phone call them, to email them, you write letters and if needed, you go to DC with torches and pitch forks and demand they obey the US Constitution…..

                • “It won’t change…. unless!

                  You get involved.”

                  I’m not interested in getting involved in anything that doesn’t involve the violent and bloody deaths of each and every person responsible for this country being such a fascist shithole. After they have been purged from this land, then we can talk about me “getting involved.”

                  “The only way, from this point forward to affect change would be to focus like a laser beam on what they all do and if they look like they’re not on track you phone call them, to email them, you write letters and if needed, you go to DC with torches and pitch forks and demand they obey the US Constitution…..”

                  Good luck with that. You’re only wasting your time.

              • BJ:

                My thoughts exactly. We are finally going to get a wake up call that “they” are all in on the game.

                • And if by chance they’re not in on the game when they get there, they will be after the blackmail demands and/or bribes hit their inboxes.

                  I firmly believe that THAT is why it seems like they’re all the same once they get there, even if they weren’t like that before.

                  I actually think that’s why oblunder did such a flip-flop all of a sudden.

                  I think that’s why they only select those who have a big, dark closet full of blackmail material to be president…leverage.

                  Perhaps that’s why they had to kill Kennedy. His closet may have been full, but there was nothing in there that the public didn’t already know about. In other words, they didn’t have sufficient leverage over Kennedy.

                  Obviously, they’ve not made that mistake since.

            • The GOP is already talking about De-funding ObamaCare. So why pay into any program that is DOA.

            • Thanks KYM. The only reason I can think this is a “hot debate” is that there are obviously paid leftists trolling the site.

              This was important news. I, myself, use Liberty HealthShare, and have been EXCEPTIONALLY pleased with their service. Why anyone would use ObunglerCare – much worse service, much higher price, and you support all kinds of evil practices – is beyond me.

            • Thanks for the links KY Mom! Might be needing a good health care alternative soon.

          • DC is an area reserved for the damned. Stay away from it.

        • MT.

          The blunts are bigger than Cuban Cigars. Hahaha!

          • …but what’s with Washington STATE? The sheeple helped Bill Gates buy gun control. It seems the slaves have “Stockholm Syndrome.”

        • 2 Yr Lame Duck!!

        • Wow… right under the noses of the Fed’s

          That’s an “in-your-face….

          • No, the feds are what’s “in your face”.

            The federal govt was not initially created to govern the states. There was a narrowly defined set of federal responsibilities, and everything else was designated as the business of the states, or to the people.

            Somehow, those states rights have been slowly usurped and infringed upon, right along with the rights of the individual citizens.

            • They have been usurped because “We the People” have allowed it by ignoring what Washington does for so many years. Our fault…….

              • yep.

        • Let ’em smoke it up. They run slower and are easier to hit.




      2. Hey, legalizing Mary Jane did wonders for the Democrats in Colorado, didn’t it?

        Look at all the votes they got on election day. *snicker*

        Just saying 😉

        • Traffic accidents in CO increased by a factor of 4 after they legalized pot.

          The IRS is going to tax profts of marijuana retailers at 85-90% which will put many them out of business. Also, those same shops must give MJ away to those who can’t afford it. Duh!

          This is, and has always been, about tax money from the start.

          • Your comment about traffic accidents and under the influence of pot, made me remember a horrible accident that took place back in the late seventies.

            Me and the, future Ex-Mrs. Passin’, went to visit another young married couple in the neighboring county. Expecting to have an afternoon of fun and a cookout with our friends we were faced with tragedy and depression.

            The husbands, 17 year old brother inlaw had just been killed in a head on collision, while driving. My friend and i went to the scene of the accident and then to the junk yard where the vehicles were towed to. It was gruesome.

            An old man and his wife were driving merrily along in an old pu truck when the teenager pulled around another vehicle to pass in a no-passing zone and hit them head on at 65 mph in a 45 zone.

            At the scene, two tenagers killed, two elderly folks, and a third teenager critically injured.

            Later we found out,thru the lone survivor, that the teenagers had been driving around for a couple hours, smoking pot. A couple roaches, and a baggie of weed, were found in the floor board on the driver’s side. High on pot, lack of fully functioning brain systems, and of course, teenage stupidity, killed those people.

            I can say, truthfully, that being high on marijuana can and does impair judgment. i was a daily pot smoker for twenty five years in my youth. Until i quit I never realized how fuzzy and distorted, and possibly damaged, my brain functions were.

            Having been THC free for over twnety-five years I see the problems with the falsehoods being preached.
            Medical marijuana, “does” have it’s place I believe, and some people respond to the THC as a pain reducing remedy. I say, make it legal for them in all states.

            Legalization of pot as a recreational drug does nobody anygood except; the growers,distributors, and tax reapers who benefit from the “dumbing down” of society.

            i agree the possession and distribution laws need reforming and making it less criminalizing; but, to hand tokers the legal right to stay stoned and do it in public is the wrong message to send to the youth. Kids are stupid enough with all the jooster entertainment thrown at them, while basic Christian morals are kicked to the curb.

            The Dumbing Down continues…..


            • Wow really nice of you to allow consenting adults to make their own decisions! Just an FYI, if you allowed all the potheads to grow their own stuff, there would be no more black market, crime would drop, and you would have less to complain about. Another FYI, you have NO RIGHT to tell me what I can and cannot put in my body.

            • That idea that teenagers have a “lack of fully functioning brain systems” is a bunch of garbage.

              This stupid justice system has NO PROBLEM locking them same teenagers up for life, or executing them for their actions, despite their lack of fully functioning brain systems.

              Also, apparently, their teenaged brains function well enough to decide whether or not to have an abortion without parental knowledge or approval, or get contraceptives…

              It’s about time we stopped the “it’s for the children” crusade, in all of it’s forms.

              • I thought I was pretty smart as a teenager. My test scores were high, my teachers told me how smart I was, and I was bored with the college prep program, but could regurgitate an entire semester of German after only a weekend of study.

                Looking back at 25 I wondered how I ever survived those teenage years, I was so dumb. At 35 I couldn’t believe how stupid I was at 25, and by the time I was 45 I knew everything!

                At 55 I looked back and saw what a dumbsit I really was at 45, and now at almost 65 I can’t believe how much I didn’t know at 55.

                If only I knew then what I know now!!! Just saying. How about the rest of you??? 🙂

                • Well, DK, that’s all part of growing up isn’t it?

                  I’ll bet that back in your day, there weren’t too many 12 year olds sitting on death row. Fewer still, packing guns and doing drive-bys.

          • No really… 8ts about big cotton losing to hemp its about big pham losing to cannabis its about big business Losing to the plant…. Everyone could grow cannabis or hemp and therein lies the problem…. even oil and tobacco would lose

            so power in the hands of a few is the answer….

          • Anon, Yes, the number of Tickets for “Driving TOO SLOW” greatly increased.. lol

          • Colorado Historical Fatal Crash Trends – Updated 2/8/2014
            Colorado fatal crashes 2002: 677
            Colorado fatal crashes 2004: 596
            (dispensaries open in 2009)
            Colorado fatal crashes 2009: 438
            Colorado fatal crashes 2012: 433
            (Amendment 64 passes)
            Colorado fatal Crashes 2013: 422
            * Source of Data: Colorado DOT & “As Reported” to NHTSA by FARS

            • This tells me nothing. What is the data for ^^^2014??^^

            • @TruthBeTold. – Thanks for the Facts and Truth. WWTI

          • The IRS will tax medical marijuana stores that much only on POT they did not grow themselves.

        • More control of the news was admitted here…

          article title…
          Liberian Traveler At Duke Hospital Shows Preliminary Negative Result For Ebola

          On page 2 of the article…

          “The Associated Press and other press outlets have agreed NOT to report on suspected cases of Ebola in the United States until a positive viral RNA test is completed.”

          The reported feels compelled to EXPLAIN why he is even reporting this news…

          “But I’m covering tonight’s announcement of a potential Ebola case because it has been reported in my area, and at Duke University Medical Center, an institution where I hold an unpaid adjunct associate professor appointment in their Department of Medicine.”

          (link below)

      3. testy

      4. la marihuana es la planta natural perfecto.

        tardó un millón de años para evolucionar naturalmente maduro en lo que es hoy.

        la planta perfecta, que es utilizable en todas las industrias modernas de la fabricación a médicos, textil, construcción, militar, química, energía, etc.

        es simple en realidad por qué se hizo ilegal en la década de 1920.


        criminalizan que, para controlarlo.

        los que controlan que … se benefician de ella.

        por lo que un grupo selecto f’in codiciosos egoístas depredadora NWO ZOG pinchazos de miles de millones de seres humanos que existen en la tierra pueden ser los únicos que se benefician de ella.

        así que me pregunto, ¿quién es el verdadero criminal aquí?


      5. o.k. who is the s.o.b. who is censoring my posts?

        ya’ zio-jew corksuckers!


        • Your first clue is the dumbass that wrote his post in Spanish. Still haven’t figured it out? It was you, dope.

          • Hey ninao/fester/frenemy of the state. Sit down and shut up already. Glad themguys was finally flushed too cause this isn’t a nazi site.

            • Amen to that Indy!

        • Fester;
          I must admit, I can’t not look at the posts that are not shown due to lack of content. You must not be easily discouraged what with numbers like 52 red to 2 green thumbs. Are you an attorney?

      6. Interesting yesterday,

        There a book out call EVERYONE DOES 3 FELONIES A DAY

        Saw it on Glenn Beck

        • Glenn Beck? Oh now there’s a credible source. He reminds me of the other book “Rush Slimball is a Big Fat Liar!”

          • Your right about that. Then again, your talking to a brick wall with most here. Most here think if we America elects the likes of Ted Cruz and Rand Paul, things will be all hunky dory……that is the delusion truly awake people face.

      7. A little off topic: I think between now and January we just may feel that TSHTF moment has arrived. Obama and Reid are going to do everything they can to get the SH~T PASSED! Look for so many EO’s that it truly will be Government by EO, the House and even the Senate will not matter. Now for the new batch of puppets coming in; cut all funding to the White House period. Just give them enough for life support and no more. Folks the next 60 days are going to be critical for the life of this country.


        • Executive orders on steroids!

        • Anything that got passed, can be UNPASSED.

      8. In post 3260744; I should have added that a new shipment of VETO pens will be arriving at the White House Friday November 7, 2014 and will be used starting January 4, 2015. Sorry for my over looking this. (I’m at that age)


      9. Brace yourselves: Defiant, childish, petulant Obama, the creature you dreaded, will be making his debut today. Amnesty by Christmas, executive actions out the wazoo. The mask comes off today. Prepare to defend yourselves.

        • OK Lets see if now the Republicans kick all the Illegals out of the country to preserve American Jobs, or if they are in on the scandal too to undermine America too like Obummer.

          • WWTI, I think it will still be ‘business as usual’.

        • Not today. Maybe next week. Obuttweed will be stoned.


            • Greetings BraveHeart!
              There’s a lot going on with the plates right now as you already know. I would really like to hear from Be informed. Miss his updates and his posts which are uusually spot on. If you have heard from him let me know please! Thank you and God bless you brother!

              • W69, it’s good to hear from you. I’m not aware of any activity with NMFZ if that’s what you mean. I haven’t heard form BI. I wish he was here too. He’s always spot on with his analysis. If you know of new activity concerning NMFZ let me know.

                • Good to hear from you too. Big swarm of activities in lower east corner of Oregon, juan deFuca I think , Cascadia fault. Also wondering if it’s related to the mid Atlantic activity from top to bottom lately. Same in the middle of the Pacific.

          • Three travelers walk up to a walled city just after dark and as the gates are shut for the night. One is stoned, one is drunk, and one is tripping acid. When the guards yell that the gates are closed until morning the stoned traveler says”that’s cool dude we’ll just sit here and wait.”

            The drunk yells “that’s ridiculous I’ll bash these gates down!”

            The tripping traveler grins and says “Just wait guys, I got this. I’ll just float through the keyhole.”

        • His naked communism will become obvious to all but the most ardent obamaphiles.

        • Wow, lot’s of Demo red thumbs. OK. NO problem

          • Sometimes you really have to wonder who’s here Charley Waite.

        • Charley Waite,

          I agree. I believe we will see the gloves come off now that the election is over. The Obama “handlers” will PUSH him to complete as much of the agenda as possible in the next 2 years.

          Control of the Senate has changed. So, Obama will rely on the tools he has – his phone and pen.

          Expect more executive orders.

          Take care. Stay alert. Keep praying and prepping.

          • KY Mom, I also expect to see a lot of EOs issued on a number of issues. Now it’s going to be ‘damn the torpedos full speed ahead’. Everyone step up your prepping. Things will become even more ‘interesting’ now.

            • RB: You had better be packed already. You know what I mean. Stay safe my friend.


              • Copperhead, I’m packed and can have the truck loaded up in just minutes. Yes, I know what you mean.

          • Congress can overturn any executive order by enacting a law directly conflicting with it.

            Will they do it?

            • No.

          • I think there should only be a 6 month maximum lag between the last and next president. It should be law that the last president could not make any decisions during that time, but use it to get his shit packed and be ready to vacate.

            • I think Clinton did that. Didn’t he take furniture, china, and all the “W” keys off the computer keyboards?

              It would be nice if, as soon as the presidential election results were in, White House guards would go in and march the old president and first lady out immediately and have someone else pack their stuff and ship it to them later.

              My mother said before she died a few years ago that the White House was going to need a good airing out and a bunch of air fresheners.

        • Charley Waite,

          Article on this topic at Breitbart.

          America Faces Most Dangerous Two Years in 150 Years

          “And this is where things get very, very dangerous for America. President Obama still has two more years left in his final term.

          Already, he has demonstrated again and again that he has no regard for the constitution or the legitimacy of laws when they do not suit his agenda. He flaunts his disregard for the constitutional process, dismisses laws he doesn’t like and rewrites others.

          He mocks the powers of Congress. The Supreme Court has slapped him down more than any president in recent times. All of this as he tells us he is an expert on constitutional law.

          Now come his very explicit threats to pass more illegal and unconstitutional presidential edicts to grant amnesty to illegal aliens already in the United States. This, in turn, will issue invitations for millions more illegals to come streaming across the border.
          It will not end at immigration. Unchecked power is addictive.”

          “Disowned by Democrats and made to feel irrelevant in this election, President Obama’s enormous and unjustified ego is deeply wounded. He is frustrated and feels caged, cornered. This is when people like him are most dangerous.”

          “But President Obama is not a listener. He is not a negotiator. He is not a learner. He will just take what he wants. It is easier that way.”

          Breitbart dot com

          • KY Mom, great post! Just watch the fangs and claws, horns.. to start showing even more so. A caged animal is vicious.

          • Hopefully Congress will vote to do away with every executive order he comes up with plus the ones from the last 6 years. Maybe even do away with all standing orders from the past and find a way to make executive orders illegal.

      10. Does this mean that Obama can come out of the closet?

        • no but maybe they have enough money now to get that dangly thing cut off his “life partners ” crotch

          • That would defeat the purpose of getting the daily screwing by his wife that he so rightly deserves. The He/She, is probably hung like the apes they evolved from.

          • This thumbs up brought to you by Talon1776
            Now there’s a reality show I would watch!

        • … or off the golf course?

      11. It is time to engage your employees as DK puts it. There has been a tremendous shakeup , time to bring some accountability to all the new and old employees. It looks like we may have a reprieve from the lawlessness of the recent past. Hold on to your seats and don’t let your eyes off the goal. Keep praying, planning, preparing, prepping, but, perhaps we can celebrate a little and kick up them heels down on the bayou. As our Sgt. Says, ASMS! KY Mom, congratulations! A true ‘shock and awe’ for all.

        View from high atop a “Bald Cyprus” in the Atchafalaya, Louisiana Eagle. Time to take to the skies and check things out.

      12. PRESSING ‘1’ for ENGLISH

      13. Jawja will be the last to make legal…

        • I disagree. The first state (Virginia) will be the last.
          We have a 2B$ budget shortfall BTW.

      14. Drugs are for losers.

        • BC, first define ‘drugs’.
          In Genesis, it says “all plants are here for our food and medicine”.

          • eppe,

            You have it wrong, “food and medicine”, doesn’t mean getting high just because it feels good.

            1 Corinthians 6:19-20

            Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God in your body.

            1 Peter 5:8

            Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.

            Galatians 5:21

            Envy, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these. I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.

            • Swinging, the Bible is a written history of the Israelites, who Lewis Black says “8 hairs away from being baboons”. They needed guidance. What I am researching is the truth before those books were written. All ‘drugs’ are just a key to open the receptor of that feeling in the brain already.

              • Chocolate has a similar affect on the brain that Pot does as it stimulates the same brain receptors. Its provides similar euphoric state of mind. Pot also makes chicks horny.

                • WWTI:

                  You gotta drug em before you can mug em? Some ladies man you are!

                  • Please Granny… Just a personal observation that they related to me. How long have you been out of the loop in dating?

                  • BTW/ How can you tell when a woman is Horny? When you slip your hand down her pants and it feels like a horse eating oats.

                • I have done pot and chocolate. Your post is absurd. With all disrespect to the radical feminists I can muster (and no disrespect to radical feminists is enough, IMHO)your comment is both crude and sexist.

                  • WWTI, if it feels like a horse eating oats, then you should probably get out of the barn and go home, while you’re still ahead!

            • I read about this wedding party once that ran out of wine. The horror! Then this really cool dude at the party turned water into wine and the party was saved. We don’t have to be sober all the time do we?

              I’m planning for more than just barely surviving. Books and musical instruments for the kids, a little holiday cheer for mom and dad . . .

              • Jose did the ol’ switcheroo and spiked the koolaid at the wedding with Boonesfarm ripple and the drunks called it miracle. Holly Jeebus it be holly wine.

          • You mean like oleander, hemlock or poison mushrooms? The Bible is the authoritative Word of God, but you are clearly taking a figure of speech and blowing it out of context.

        • You had your shots yet cat?

        • Maybe now the The GOP Congress and Senate can override Obama-Scare from any Pres veto. And Impeach Obama as well for Arming Known Terrorists.

          Since the US is leaving Afghanistan and Billions of US Dollars in Weaponry left in Afghanistan, the Taliban is now forcing the Afghan police to sell their arms and weapons to them. We will see a replay in Afghanistan with the Taliban, like we saw in Iraq with ISIS who stole all the weapons the US left there. So what did we gain over thelast decade in these 2 costly phony wars? NADA.

          • Speaking of “impeachable offenses”,

            The potus gave away USA property early on in his term.

            Alaskan Island territories, he gave to the Russians.

            Remember the famous recording where Odrama was telling Putin…”After i am elected, i can do more”. Not exactly sure on the quote, but close enough.

            • Thanks for the continued thumbs down, there wwti.

              You are showing your childish, secularist, inner self.

              In other words, you are continually pulling out the rope that is laid before you so as to make a noose with.
              There isn’t a whole lot more needed to make the slipknot for your neck.

              Better change your evil ways before it is too late.

              i do love being the rope bearer and occasional pallbearer.

            • “Remember the famous recording where Odrama was telling Putin…”After i am elected, i can do more”.”

              oblunder never kept not ONE promise during his entire tenure…what makes people think he would’ve kept that one?

              We don’t even have any idea of the context of that comment, and I’ll bet Putin still wonders what the hell the monkey in charge was babbling on about.

          • Speaking of drugs and afghanistan . . . over 90% of the world’s opium is produced in afghanistan. The U.S. consumes around 90% of the world’s hydrocodone (an opiate) at the same time our army is controlling the supply.

            Sure makes me wonder.

            • I don’t wonder about that at all. It’s how we fund our black ops and coups.

            • Rebel..where do you think the big drug companies get the opiates to make all their opiate based drugs they force feed all the clueless sheep?

        • BC… You are such a winner! Teach me how to live will you?

          I’m making a pro mj argument from Sedona… On a port a ledge 300 ft up, watching the sunrise, listening to an audio of The Screwtape Letters while I boil my coffee and argue with statists simultaneously.

          I had surgery on my arm once upon a time, refused any and all pain killers other than the initial anesthetic. I asked my doctor about the use of MJ in early recover… He strongly recommended the use if I was not pursuing other means. I removed the sutures myself after all of my follow ups were good.

          OT… Low was 35 last night. High today of 71 expected. Wouldn’t wanna be anywhere else right now. Everyone enjoy the day!

          • I’ve always removed my own stitches…had to put in a few myself. I got pretty good at it.

        • So of course you do not take ibuprofen, Tylenol, penicillin, birth control pills, ANYTHING prescription.

          Right? Or are you a hypocrite?

          • I prefer not to take any chemically processed medicine. Would prefer willow bark to pill form Aspirin myself. I don’t generally take anything unless there is a real need. Even then, it’s in moderation. When I take Ibuprofen, my first thought is ‘what is this going to do to my liver and kidneys?’ When I take Nyquil, I generally have a Nyquil hangover the next morning. Man…that Nyquil is some good stuff. Gets you higher than some of that BC bud. As the joke goes “there’s a reason they show people in bed taking Nyquil’. Definitely.

      15. BC ,
        cuts down the competition makes it easier for the normal people to prevail , the idiots don’t know they are just killing themselves . They are already dead if SHTF happens and it will .
        We are now entering a time of danger not know in modern times and just as dangerous as the early 1860’s , victory will be short lived with projection of constitutional power .
        Don’t be surprised of rioting happens in a few days .

        The dear leader may go down in history as the first president removed from office by arms and convicted for treason against the Republic or flees to,a more friendly climate on a tropical shore where the mizzah call to prayer is heard five times a day.

        The battle begins collectivist vs individualists,

        We will determine the outcome .
        The people have spoken


        Semper Fi 8541

        • Should read with out constitutional power ,
          Late night

          Semper Fi 8541

      16. Cannabis has quite a few other applications outside of its use as a psychoactive drug. In addition, the prospective hemp industry in the US could finally let us start making that cheap paper/rope/clothing/etc that we would otherwise need costlier materials for.

        • Oh yeah, I need to stock up on hemp rope, lots of rope to hang these Tyrants.

        • As far as SHTF and prepping as related to marijuana….I think about Selco’s post on how people were looking for seeds during SHTF. That people grew it for medicine as well as coping with the crap conditions they were under. I’ve not read Selco’s site in a while, but have a respect for him seeing how he is willing to share his knowledge and experience.

      17. I don’t advocate drug use, but I can’t help but chuckle at the thought that smokin’ some weed will get you thrown in jail or prison. But you can be a part of some “governmental”, (and I stress the mental part of that word), kill innocent people, rape and torture and get away with it, isn’t innocent until proven guilty a primary American value? That would indicate that smokin’ some weed is a more horrific crime than murder, rape and torture and that means there can only be one proper punishment for pot heads…IMPALEMENT!!! That’s right, impalement, because their crime is so horrifically EVILLLLLL!!!

        Wasn’t there some lawyer or ex-lawyer, I can’t think of his name, going around saying that drug laws were a fraud because of a lot of old court rulings saying that if there is no victim, there is no crime?

        • Pot is a plant not a drug. Lets not confuse the issue here. Every speck of Matter is located on the Chemistry Table Chart.

          Its Certain Man’s need for control and taxing others that make everything illegal. These aholes even want to tax Global warming, and charge you for every mile you drive. Who thinks up this shit? That’s who we need to hang during SHTF.

        • “Inchoate” means a crime without a victim. All drug possession, prostitution and gambling laws are inchoate laws.

          Driving without a license isn’t considered “inchoate” by some, because the State loses revenue when people fail to pay for permission to drive.

      18. I have always felt that marijuana would be outlawed until the RIGHT people were positioned to profit from its sale. We all know the Big Pharma story. Sad thing is the stigma of MJ use prevents some patients access to the drug.

      19. What is the outrage here? I guess I don’t understand why anyone is upset with them legalizing it. If the people of DC want to be inept and half baked their entire lives then let them. What is this need to save people from themselves?

        • Halfbaked???

          You give them way.. too much credit.

          • OK how about all the Pot terms out there that have been in circulation for years, like:

            “Wake n’ Bake!!” – Smoking pot first thing in the morning to start your day.

            What else?

            • How about all of the people who have worked their jobs for decades, paid their mortgages and bill, sent their children to college and so forth, all the while, toking on a pot pipe here and there?

              Despite the rhetoric and propaganda BS, not everyone who uses “illegal” substances is a lazy fuck-up. Not all of them are crazed thugs out to steal from you, either.

              I’ll bet most of us may know someone who has been using drugs for years, and we never even knew it. Why? Because some people keep it in it’s place.

              The ONLY reason what my neighbor does, should become my business, is when it affects ME.

              It’s none of my business what he does in his own house, unless a party gets loud and/or out of hand—THEN it becomes my business until it settles down.

              I don’t care if he has a 30 foot high pot plant in his back yard, as long as he keeps it on his property and it don’t damage my property in any way.

      20. I fear elections no longer matter. Republican or democrat both are pulling flush. The democrats just pull harder.

        Secession for Texas may be in our best interest, given America’s flirtatious penchant and longing for that age old utopian dream, A dream where everyone draws from the same coffers, has an obamaphone , buys pot with their EBT card : while they are just waking up when I drag myself in from a 12 hour workday.

        Black America is to their credit realizing that the current system has done them no favors. Slavery is alive and well in the democrat party: those favors passed down by the “homeland” buys your vote and puts another link in your chains…

        • Government Dependency is a form of Slavery that keeps you voting for more handouts. The rich are just as dependent on Government for tax breaks, phony laws to help them protect their companies and wealth, Billion in Free Grants, Government Contracts. There is NO Free Market out there anymore. Its all rigged for certain groups to profit with price fixing.

          End Welfare for the Poor and End Welfare for Corporations.

          • Agreed, however Government is a symptom of the problem, created by the majority of the people of this country who want this type of government. The PEOPLE of this country are the cause of the problems in this country. They haven’t been duped or horns-waggled or misled. They have been lied to because they want to be lied to. They want a cushy easy life where the nanny state cares for them from cradle to grave. Look no further than after hurricane Katrina. Many were evacuated to states where they could find jobs and actually make an attempt to get out of their poverty conditions and what did they do? They went right back afterwards, not to rebuild but to collect an easy government payout. Welcome to this geographic location known as the United States.

            “O wretched slaves of Mammon, you cannot glory in the Cross of our Lord Jesus Christ while you trust in treasures laid up on earth: you cannot taste and see how gracious the Lord is, while you are hungering for gold. If you have not rejoiced at the thought of His coming, that day will be indeed a day of wrath to you.”
            ― Bernard of Clairvaux, On Loving God

        • In a strange way, they do count, vet1.

          The majority of the black vote goes for liberalism and more importantly….handouts.

          The majority of the Hispanic/Mexican vote goes for liberalism and more importantly….handouts.

          They are both voting for their own enslavement.

          They should be voting for conservative values, or not voting at all. For a hand-“up”, and not a hand out.

          What gets me is, the Mexicana are predominately Catholic and don’t believe in abortion or contraception, yet they, as a majority, vote for the very agenda that promotes it.

          The vast majority of uneducated or educated and still ignorant, blacks; cling to a “disenfranchised and racist” ideology as their reasoning, yet vote for the same liberal ideology that keeps them in economic chains.

          If not for the black and Hispanic vote, the liberals would be outnumbered. There is not enough ignorant and uneducated women left around to keep them in power.

          Yes, liberal extreme leftist women are either uneducated or educated ignorant/idiots. Some even have the looks and mind of Taylor Swift. Kinda nice to look at but if held too long, will devour you like a black widow.

          Is anyone else tired of the Taylor Swift songs and bullshit influence on the young girls of the world? She is just about as sickening as the Kardashians.
          Just about.

          • So can you think of a way for “conservatives” to save the country without getting rid of the blacks and hispanics?

            The opposite is in fact happening. Their numbers are increasing much more rapidly than whites and it’s not going to be too many years before whites are no longer the majority.

            Marque numero 2 for english (with rap hold music in the background) is just around the corner.

            Someone please look at the demographics and tell me I’m wrong. Please?

          • or worse yet, Miley Cyrus…

      21. As the “Refer Madness” generation which was propagandized for decades expires the marijuana laws will disappear. My own father and the greatest generation guys I worked with years ago thought that almost every problem had its root cause in marijuana. Some examples, I shit you not.

        1. Lee Harvey Oswald was on dope (keep in mind ALL DOPE is DOPE and they’re all the same).
        2. Anyone protesting anything regardless how justified, “They’re on DOPE”.
        3. Any especially violent criminal act, “They’re on DOPE”.
        4. We lost the Vietnam because the soldiers, “Were on DOPE”.
        5. People dressing differently, “Are on DOPE”.

        I point out the mindless statements above to show the principal that Josef Gobbels followed regarding a lie works. It has an inherent weakness in that the truth wins but only if one has the access and desire to see it.

        • We have legal pot in Washington now. DUI’s are up considerably here, first year.

          • Smokey,

            And yet you had a sheriff from some county in Washington telling Oregon voters just the opposite.

            We will never outrun those willing to lie for the cause, will we?

            • Maybe they are in his County, but not statewide.

              Word here is that he’s not dealing with pothead drivers because of the court time involved. So he’s probably personally responsible for his own statistics.

        • Your father was right.

          I shit you not, child.

      22. Hey Harry Reid

        Fuck you!

        • sorry forgot to add O/T


        • A GREAT day in Nevada for sure. Harry Reid knocked off his high horse, Republican Sweep, and the Margins Tax known as question 3, defeated by huge margins.

          America actually woke up! More people are claiming to be independents or moderates now more than ever. Both sides better wake up to this fact.

          While I have little faith in the Republicans to make any drastic change, or change anything at all, it gives me hope to see opposition to the current administration.

          • Now all they have to do is launch an investigation on how Harry became so rich being a state senator..

            I’d love to watch him squirm .. even if he doesnt get the prison sentence he deserves

        • DO YOU THINK HARRY IS STONE ??????????

      23. Oh on the weed thing

        no law should be made against man for use of a natural substance put on this earth by our creator

        end of subject.. for me at least

        • I’m not against the legalization of it, but I am against the taxation of it.

          • Roger that!

          • yep…follow the money!

        • QUESTION????????




        • You can have weed, or you can have welfare. Not both.

      24. I used to know two different people who were long term pot smokers. And they were moody as all get out. Almost impossible to be around.

        I do believe it causes bipolarism. And possibly worse.

        But does locking people up in jail and ruining their lives make the country better? I think not.

        I’m also for Hemp and all it’s commercial uses.

        No, I don’t smoke it or anything else.

        • Honestly SD, they’d probably be worse if they didn’t smoke.
          And trust me, you know a hell of a lot more people that smoke mj than those two. You just don’t know it.

        • show me a person today who isnt moody , i mean with all the shit coming at us from obugngler and crew , it makes every one moody

          probably has nothing to do with the weed, hell they might even be worse without it, just trying to cope with these bozos in office is enough to drive any sane man over the edge

        • Moody may be anything, but the potheads are pretty obvious in the workplace. They have difficulties in task work, deadlines are a joke, logic skills are subpar, writing skills are deficient, people skills are not up to snuff, math and close tolerance work are impaired, and they zone out in meetings.

          Now, which came first, the chicken or the egg? Do marginal workers use it because it’s how they deal with the stress of inefficiency, or is it causal?

          • Consenting adults should be free to do as they please so long as they don’t infringe on anyone’s right to do the same through force or fraud.

            That being said I should be free to not hire marginal workers like smokey says for any reason whatsoever. Or no reason.

            You can do as you please. Just please don’t come to me when your EBT card can’t buy more cheetos, medicaid won’t pay for more weed, and you can’t pay your rent. I don’t care if you get evicted in the winter and it’s cold out. It’s winter. It’s ALWAYS cold in winter and you should’ve planned ahead.

            Feel free to do as you wish (just no force or fraud) though please remember I also insist that you remain free to suffer the consequences of your decisions.

      25. speaking of guns,<— (like how i did that?) how is" The People vs. Eric Holder" coming along?

        if you fail to ruin him, zero will promote him. or at least stand aside

        TAKE THREE YEARS to go through it all, otherwise Zero will pardon him.

        That is, if we dont try Oblaimer first.

        • Drudge says there was an election day document out of the DoJ. Suggests Holder Contempt of Congress JUSTIFIED.

      26. There should be no law against growing your own pot and sharing it with whomever you wish, same as there should be no law against me making likker and sharing it whomever I wish.

        Get .gov out of my life and let me alone is all I ask…

        Oh, and stay off my grass all you costumed clowns.

      27. My rights end where yours begin – The Constitutional litmus test.

        Me smoking a joint in my house from a plant I grew doesn’t infringe on anyone. Now driving to Taco Hell afterwards to cure the munchies does. Let’s all try to be consistent in our interpretation of Freedom endowed by our Creator as defined in our Founding Documents.

      28. “Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!”
         Patrick Henry

      29. I live in the Southern Sierra, where there was recently a wildfire started by los illegals camping out in their pot patch. Despite California’s limited personal growing laws, the criminal growing continues. The former resident of my property was a grower, and I still get low-lifes dropping by to see if there is a crop. I haven’t touched it in 16 years, ever since I was robbed at gunpoint by two punks, only because I was too stoned to take care of their sorry, inept asses. It should be handled like liquor and be taxed and sold commercially. Personal sales should still be illegal, like selling moonshine. Where I live, every methhead is a pot grower, selling his herb for speed money. I have no problems seeing them rot in jail. As it stands, the bums get a six month sentence, and serve 90 days. They know this, and don’t give a shit about the law. Get the potheads out of jail, and make room for the criminals to stay locked up.

      30. The only reason they are trying to make it legal (the PTB) is to tax it.

        For me I don’t care what you do in your home! But when you bring it into the street and the safety and well being of others is now in play! I Give A Damn! I don’t what some doper to hurt or kill anyone. Yours or Mine.
        Because it works just like alcohol. Impaired judgment.

        I have worked around this stuff for a long time, and I have seen reasonable good people us it with out a problem. Just like drinking a beer.

        I have seen people go from good folk to the Leaches and Zombies we are prepping for. As long as they can have their pot. Their kids and world be damned!

        I have also seen my sister in law go from pot to harder and harder stuff until it destroyed her life. Because she couldn’t get a big enough BUZZ. Today the baby she had is now 14 years old, and is only about 15 months old physically and mentally. Now guess how is paying for that? YOU ARE AND I am.

        This is a sign of a nation dying. God Help Us.

        Aim Small Miss Small

        • Agreed. If you want to destroy a nation, just introduce drugs to the general population. It’s working.

          A lot of folks aren’t old enough to remember what people were like back in the 1960’s before drug use took off when the lefties introduced the Turn On movement.

          People are more irrational, easily led, apathetic, illogical, self-serving, and the fringe that was literally insane has grown in size to where you can expect to meet one of them almost daily.

          There’s a reason why they call it dope.

          • Actually most of these drugs were legal in the 1700’s, 1800’s, and early 1900’s while the nation prospered. The problem isn’t the drugs, they’re just a symptom.

            Decriminalize them all (though methamphetamine does give me pause I’ll stand by the all) the drug war will never be “won” and just gives the police state power to trample our liberty.

            • …but then the prisons would be full of DANGEROUS PEOPLE, and those kinds can’t go out on WORK DETAIL, to make the state more money…/sarcastic smirk/

          • People REALLY ain’t old enough to remember what people were like back in the 1860′s, when cocaine, morphine and anything else you can think of, was legal.

            This was before the govt got the idea that they can decide who can have what, and turn restrictions into REVENUE.

            Everyone also had guns. If you were old enough to tote a rifle, you were old enough to take a shot of whiskey.

            YET, there were no drugged up mass murderers afoot.

            Drunks were mostly just a nuisance.

            People were generally hard-working and honest.

            Boy have we dug a huge hole for ourselves…

        • You contradict yourself.

          On one hand, you imply that pot is no more dangerous than beer.

          On the other hand, you describe what it did to your relative and her child. Beer doesn’t do that, and beer doesn’t lead to that.

          You’re confused. And you apparently don’t remember that during the VietNam war, one of the prime objectives of the KGB was to get as many Americans and as many U.S. troops hooked on pot as possible because a high/psychotic citizenry is an easily conquered citizenry. Beer doesn’t do that.

          Never, ever forget that our enemies mean business and they play for keeps. They want what we have and they want it every waking moment. Doped up, non-functioning, and confused about reality and truth simply acts like greasing the skid for them.

          Never, ever be complacent about pot. Never, ever be complacent about attacks on morality, or rather, our western morality. Never, ever be complacent about the determination of communists to turn us into impoverished slaves.

          Just ask the former Soviet Bloc countries that now are part of the West….they can fill your ears with tales of horror.

          • I LOVE how ANONYMOUS talks behind a wall, afraid to use his/her own name. Stand up proudly behind your words or don’t spout off. Brain-damaged prohibitionists have been pouring that drivel into the media for decades, but medical scientific research has proven you to be full of shit uncountable times over now. Medical cannabis oil CURED my prostate cancer and COULD have saved my infant daughter’s life, had I not been threatened with CPS and jail for using it. Go drink your beer and keep it to yourself.

            • Skot:

              I find it amusing that you find anonymous hiding behind that name when I would venture there is hardly anyone posting under their real name.

              Pretty sorry position we find ourselves in in America to even need to hide our identities.

              • POG.
                Dale is my first name.

              • Yep. OPSEC granny, keep it up

              • POG I actually go by maddog in real life. Not by choice, the name was given to me by the skilled trades guys that have worked for me. I’m not sure why however I was told by a mentor that your not a good boss until your name is on the shithouse wall.

          • Anon
            It was the hard stuff that hurt the child. Because she couldn’t get a big enough buzz off of pot.
            Hell she was drunk 75% time and on the hard stuff 25% of the time.
            I do remember Nam. Good point.
            I didn’t what you to get the idea that beer was less or more dangerous that pot or Vis-Versa. A drug is a drug.

            • I would respectfully point out that none of the intoxicating substances are/were the problem; just symptoms of the problem. Beer, pot, shrooms, cocaine, or whatever are used by lots of people without becoming raging junkies/alcoholics/stoners or whatever.

              A person that wants to be intoxicated 100% of the time has an altogether different kind of problem. Plenty of people seek escape from reality in all kind of different ways. None of them are a problem per se, but in extreme cases almost anything could be a problem.

              To each their own and you can do and think as you please and run your household however you see fit. I would ask that you please not try to force me to agree with you and use the police power of government to enforce your views on anything.

            • I’ll bet it was the alcohol that did the damage, pot didnt do that, and the only thing “gate way” about pot is that you have to buy it from a dealer.. and dealers usually sell other shit

              so if it were legal , you wouldnt have to buy it from a dealer, you could grow your own or buy it from a business that only sells weed, not meth , heroin, etc..

              • oh and you cant really legislate stupidity..
                not much you can do about a person who is self destructive.. they are going to be that way no matter whats legal or not

                and this would belike legislating law due to the stupidity of others ,, its the same path as legislating away my right to bear arms because some idiot doesnt know how to behave with a gun .. none of my guns killed anyone, and im not laying mine down because some clown fucked up

                see how that works?

          • Is that from the new “Reefer Madness” script, anonymous? I can’t believe anybody could say that with a straight face, unless it was for a video.

        • The only reason coppers are against legalization is because it will reduce their SWAT raids, asset forfeiture cut and local fine income. Many will be laid off for lack of work. They will cry “Public safety and the kids” just like the statist lefties they are.

          I don’t care what coppers do in their own home, but when they bring themselves into the streets the safety and well being of others is now in play! I don’t give a damn. I don’t want some cop to hurt or kill anyone. Yours or mine.

          • JRS

            Lets not forget the bribes to look the other way. The local pot dealer is the Speakeasy Owner of the modern age.

        • Brain-damaged prohibitionists have been pouring that drivel into the media for decades, but medical scientific research has proven you to be full of shit uncountable times over now. Medical cannabis oil CURED my prostate cancer and COULD have saved my infant daughter’s life, had I not been threatened with CPS and jail for using it. Go drink your beer and keep it to yourself.

      31. There have been 0-Zero-Nil-Nada-Null deaths from THC ingestion to date. Go search YouTube and watch as willing experimenters demonstrate ingestion of edibles of very large quantities of THC. This plant has been used medicinally for 6000 years for goodness sakes.

        As mentioned earlier, it is common knowledge that the Hearst paper interests used Arnslinger to vilify a plant that would have been disruptive to their financial empire despite the thousands of industrial use applications. We might as well have had a war on Lettuce over the last 70 years.

        The (positive) research on cannabadiols is overwhelming from a curative perspective- if one has an open mind, an understanding of physiology + chemistry and does not fall back into the government programming resultant from the state sponsored Refer Madness mindset.

        While visiting a “pot shop” (I like the term dispensary much better) in Denver two months ago I had an incredibly enlightening discussion with a knowledgeable “bud tender” there about the entire process of legalization. Oh, and by the way- Colorado is full of preppers! Colorado taxes every sale and is raking in hundreds of millions in revenue yearly. The (American) jobs being created are staggering in number when one considers ALL ancillary industries. American jobs, American manufactured products.

        We could free up jail space, the courts and state & federal budget money needed for violent and more deserving criminals.

        Legalization is a win-win for society once we as individuals become enlightened and recognize the politically created mode of sheeple control- a designed management by fear.

        I for one am sick to death of politicians telling me they legislate for “my safety” or “my children” when in truth they covertly and indirectly game the system to maintain their money, social stratification and false sense of power.

        • Amen. The drug war is destroying our liberties. As to the tax issue, excise taxes (sales tax is one) are specifically mentioned in the constitution as a legitimate source of revenue for the government.

          Could we please legalize and tax all drugs, in similar fashion to alcohol and tobacco now, and abolish the income tax instead?

      32. The republican victory wont really change of fix anything. Now instead of a mangy gray fox guarding the hen house. We have a shiny coated red one.

        • This election outcome offers one good thing; potential gridlock. Doing nothing is preferable to “accomplishing” anything. When is the last time something was done that you agree with? Even if you do agree with something trust me; the devil is in the details.

          • agreed, but now wont he ( usurper) just keep up with his “executive orders”?

            and now because of what happened, wont he be more vindictive about it?

            • A Republican Senate and House of Reps MAY be more inclined to scrutinize those Executive Orders that are supposed to only streamline existing law not bypass the Legislative process. I know that’s not how its been and its getting worse but a Democrat controlled Legislature affords ZERO chance of accountability.

              • they can scrutinize to their hearts content

                ain’t gonna make any difference

                however the next President can come in and reverse everyone of them

                • There are limits. LEGALLY an Executive Order can only streamline an existing law.

                • Satori:

                  What are the chances of either candidate picked by tptb in 2016 reversing any executive order of any consequence?

                  • exactly

                    two parties

                    just different sides of the same coin !

                • Congress can amend or overturn any Executive Order it chooses. With both Houses, now it’s possible to get this president under some control.

                  We’ll see if it happens or not.

          • I agree with Kevin2. I actually don’t want the government to do anything for me. What I prefer is they don’t do anything to me.

      33. And now the Republican presidential aspirations have begun…

        So who should it be?

        NOT who will it be?

        Christie? No, too mouthy/vulgar and too overweight/unhealthy. Can’t help but wonder what made him overeat to such an extent.

        Paul? No, too many criticisms founded on debatable facts.

        Walker? Maybe. Don’t know enough about him. Worry that he may not have a college education and if not, whether that means he lacks the intellectual horsepower to handle the job the way it should be handled. Been a good, strong governor, though.

        Spence? Maybe. Hasn’t been tested to the extent that Walker has, so unclear.

        Jeb Bush? Please, no. Enough said.

        Issa? Maybe. He handled the IRS scandal and Lois Lerner quite well, showing he has some guts.

        McCain? Not hardly.

        Palin? Ditto.

        Dave Brat? Maybe. Let’s watch and see what he does and how he handles himself now that he’s been elected Congressman. He certainly has the intellect, the sincerity, the dedication to do what’s right, the conviction, and the ability to think for himself. Only problem is that he will not have had much opportunity to handle government stuff, and the presidency is a big job when it’s done right, but………bottom line, all you really need is to have your head screwed on straight, have the personal confidence to stand up to our enemies and command the respect of our military, have the correct, solid understanding of what needs to be done and where the country needs to go, and have the support of the legislature to accomplish what needs to be done to keep this country safe, strong, and respected, or feared, as applicable.

        Regardless, the message should have been received that the American people are fed up with their presidents being selected FOR them.

        • Rand for president because he follows the constitution and has BALLS.
          Ben Carson for VP because hes extremely intelligent, he thinks things through with common sense, and he could talk Rand Paul out of the occasional bad decision.


        • Cruz.

          • Nope.

            His wife works for GS.

            • Yes, the GS stands for Goldman Sachs. Think that “patriot” Glen Beck who supports Cruz doesn’t know that?

              By the way, Old Coach refers to me as Poggy, I believe it is fair play to refer to him as Old ROACH. Turn about is fair play, don’t you think?

              • Glen Beck knows exactly who butters his kosher bread.

        • Look for Walker and Hutchinson, perhaps.

          • Smokey:

            Are you saying Asa Hutchinson?

        • Palin. At least let me stare at some trim while the country is being demolished.

        • “criticisms founded on debatable facts”?????

          WTH is that?

      34. this could be important

        Saudi Stocks, Currency Tumble As Aramco Pipeline Explodes; ISIS Sabotage Concerns

        specifically this

        “a pipeline has exploded. As Breslow warns, “if that indeed signifies the spread of Islamic State into Saudi Arabia, it would be the first time they crossed Saudi borders.”

        the CORRUPT Saudi royals must be wetting themselves over this

        ISIS is Saudi ???

        could take them down

        and be a JAJOR threat to the world’s oil supply
        can you imagine what will happen if 10 million barrels a day gets taken off the market ???

        • Updated.

          Not terrorism.

          A fire that started during repairs.

        • The reason terrorists have not crossed the border into Saudi Arabia, is because THE SAUDIS CONTROL ALL TERRORIST GROUPS. The Saudi king himself said to, in a threat made to Putin. That was just before the Sochi Olympic games. Anybody else remember that?

      35. 420 in Washington, DC.

        Now all they need are some tough gun control laws and they will be set…oh wait.

        • Gun Control is a 2-inch shot grouping! 😮

      36. If a grower or distributer are caught with MJ they get taxed. Jurisdictions need money and will tax the hell out of MJ which will put legal distributers out of business and sky rocket the prices and people will go after the illegal stuff. Lose lose!

        • Stupid politicians always lose. Yes, they’ll probably tax themselves right out of a new revenue stream, thinking it’s “free money” anyway.

      37. well folks it was a fun ride over these last few years here at shtfplan.

        as i am now being blocked and censored its obvious my time is up here.

        good luck to all here.

        n.o. ;0P pssszzt

        • Mac:

          If there is no censorship on SHTF why is nino o being blocked and censored.

          We here at SHTF deserve an answer from you. Some ardent posters here have insisted you do not censor posts. Is nina o’s comment a lie?

          • Well, of course he does…

            He censored eisenkreutz at the request of BI and brokeheart.

            • nina o’s comments were the same old rant over and over and over

              he reminds me of someone who comes over to your house
              and takes a dump on the living room floor

              I don’t favor censorship
              I rarely even red thumb people
              even if I do disagree with them

              but “censoring” Nina o was just sweeping up the place

            • JRS, allow me to refresh your memory. Neither I nor BI made any such request to Mac. It’s possible that someone else sent an e-mail to Mac with such a request but I don’t know. All I know for sure is that one day I came online during that ‘battle of wits’ between us and eisenturd and all of his posts were deleted. As far as I knew it may have been Mac’s own decision. It’s his website and he can do so if he chooses. Everyone, including me, appreciated it being done. We all know how acid/eisenturd is and it would be even better if he could be kept away from a computer. Get your information straight.

            • There’s a big difference between eisencrud and his spewing hatred directly AT people, PERSONALLY, and N.O. speaking out against a particular group of people according to research and beliefs.

              I don’t know what to say about people who can’t tell the difference between a vicious personal attack, and generalized dislike of an ideology.

              • sixpack…since you hit the reply to my comment, I take it your comment was directed at me.

                Who the administrator chooses to censor is up to him. I just dislike it when others actively call for someone to be banned if they don’t like their comments.

                There are personal attacks on here almost daily. One poster likes to reply to comments he doesn’t like by calling them trolls and telling them to go elsewhere.

                You can’t be for free speech and call for the ban of others who exercise theirs. No if, ands or buts. Free speech is especially made to protect those who you disagree with.

                I never junk anyone and I skip over petty posts and go to ones with some content…not hard to do.

                As to tekroanin or which ever moniker he uses, I am against him being censored as well.

                • JRS is correct sixpack. Add to that if anybody makes a conscious decision to be a spokesman for their personal set of beliefs on a public forum, he had damn well better be able to roll with the punches or keep his mouth shut. In the case of ninao, you can’t list your anti-semetic remarks on a daily basis and expect not to be rebuffed unless your thinking is the equivalent of a 5 year old.

                • @JRS,
                  I like Sixpack and rarely if ever disagree with her. But on this subject, I do… made an excellent post.

                  If I want to call rbh out as the dipshit big talking fool who licks the jack boot thug pigs boots and wouldn’t know freedom if it hit him in the face or much less how to fight it…..than I will.

                  I call a spade a spade in regards to the fraudster sgt dale, and will continue to. I noticed he never answers any of my questions in my posts. I have facts and history on my side. Facts are stubborn little things.

                  • An extremely well thought intelligent post on your behalf, BJ. Your observations of both braveheart and sgt. windbag are completely correct, both being nothing more boot lickers for cops everywhere. Once a cop, always a cop, NEVER believe a word they say as they think they’re Jesus Christ’s second coming.

          • nina is telling the truth ( as you well know )…that’s why granny. :>)

          • Nina exposes the jews of course he is being censored.

      38. End all the drug laws and end the drug/cop/court/prison cartels,you want to use/abuse drugs tour own damn business.You get behind the wheel high/drunk ect. then endangering others,beyond that none of mine or govt.s business what you do with your own body/life if not endangering others,the war on drugs is endangering others,not the drugs.You disagree at least do not be a hypocrite and outlaw the booze/tobacco industry along with the biggest drug dealers,the pharm industry.

        • DAMMIT!!!…RIGHT AGAIN!!!

      39. Well ofcourse if you increase the amount of people who are coming to the state to buy smoke your gonna have an increase in accidents AND income… they want the money but No Foot print…

      40. A lot of wealthy people are ditching tons of high priced real estate

        you know there’s a reason for this , right?

        • What’s the reason for it, please?

      41. Cannabis is one of the safest and most effective herbal medicines on the planet, and the light that you cast it in is nothing but offensive to me. I have always enjoyed the posts on SHTF, but this one insults my intelligence. Cannabis oil cured my prostate cancer and COULD have saved my daughter’s life back in 2008, had I not been threatened with jail and CPS taking her from me for providing it to her.
        In this light, your post is nothing but offensive.

        • OK, you said it three times. Are you so stoned that you can’t remember?

      42. Well the country is up in smoke anyway.

        • One thing about the pros and cons about legalizing weed. We will get to see the results; whether it was a good thing or not a good thing.

          Same thing with this election. We will get to see if all our hopes and dreams that “something will somehow be different now” will truly happen.

          Personally, I believe it will not change anything; time will tell.

      43. Silver is down to $15.46, but the Dow and Dollar Index are up. Apmex is out of rolled junk silver quarters, but they still have $100 face value bags.

        We had an M8.0 solar flare early this morning.

        • A little brassed off about the silver price, I bought $150 of British and Mexican silver coins at melt yesterday at $16 and a bit, now today it’s dropped !

          Oh, well, cost averaging is still a valid concept.

          There’s something about the sound of a Five Shillings or a Cinco Peso coin hitting the tabletop that a silver Kennedy dollar just doesn’t have, for some reason.

      44. Mr. Rogers: Have you latched the bunker door yet? Time just may be right to do just that. Be safe my friend.


      45. Sgt. Dale: About 270 mi. due south of you so if you need anything on the trip to your BOL, let me know and you can stop by for it. Stay safe my friend.


        • Cooperhead
          Thanks man just might have to take you up on that, or maybe you might want to with us.
          Thanks man its good to know you have friends around!!!!!

          • Sgt: Absolutely no problem.


        • Copperhead, if you know of something about to happen, I’d appreciate a heads-up.

          • RB: Just that I think its going to get real bad very quick. Something down deep inside says a major false flag, before the first of the year, I mean a MAJOR FALSE FLAG. I’m not trying to tell you what to do, but when you bug out to your BOL get there fast and use all the back roads you can, IMHO interstates is not the way to go. Like I said just a feeling. I also look for a man made event to set off the New Madrid just deep inside tells me soon. Be ready at a moments notice. Be safe my friend. Something is just not right.


      46. HEADS UP MAC

        To: [email protected]
        Subject: silver pricing

        Hello again,

        Please disregard previous email. There is chaos in the physical market. We are no longer pricing silver from our wholesale sheet. If you want to buy or sell, you MUST call us for a price. And that price we quote is only good for that sale only. There is a divergence between paper and physical. Also, it appears that the US Mint has stopped production of Silver Eagles.

        Be very careful. It is a very dangerous market……

        Hubby got this email from his supplier at south land coins in Louisiana.

      47. Alaskan here. Although the case law (Ravin vs State of AK)allowed 24 plants and up to 4 ounces in our homes owing to our state constitutional privacy provisions, I voted for this more restrictive initiative that only allows 6 (3 mature) and 1 oz possession.

        I wanted to see this taxed and regulated (contradicts my normal political views, yes). Regulated and taxed is probably better in the long run than unregulated and ambiguous legal status. Those who were against this citizen’s initiative were the typical low information voters who didn’t even know that the case law already legalized the plant. “You’re against regulating something that is already legal?” “Huh, it’s not legal.” “Let me show you the case law that says it is…” Even legislative acts to outright criminalize were overturned by case law. I saw a lot of fear mongering ala Reefer Madness that really surprised me. Do people still believe the propaganda after nearly 80 years?!

        For all the alcoholism that is literally killing people in this state in higher numbers than should ever be, I would much rather see them light up than leave orphan children because of a bender that went too far. True story. I have seen people out here leave orphan children due to alcohol poisoning. Never saw a pot smoker who took it too far die – not even because of the ‘hey, bubba watch this’ factor. They typically ate Cheetos and fell asleep watching TV, and woke up the next day fully functional (although probably had indegestion because of the over dose of Cheetos). The Lethal dosage for pot is what, 1500 pounds in 30 minutes? An elephant couldn’t even consume that much.

        Even though I would have preferred to see this completely decriminalized first, I felt this was a good first step towards a more mature and sane policy. We can now proceed towards industrial hemp and the potential products and discoveries that could result. Why should we hinder our country’s commercial potential because some folks in the 30’s wanted to keep the ‘negros from wilding our white women’ or prosecute migrant Mexicans in the SW? Yes, those were the reasons cited in many a state legislature as justification for criminalizing this plant. Remember during WW2 it was Hemp for Victory! I think that video is still on YouTube.

        So while I respect those who opposed this initiative, I also feel that the misinformation being put out there is really the bigger issue. Much like some of the political dis-info that is put out to keep folks confused and misinformed. Qui bono? Who benefits from this misinformation? Who benefits from keeping us in the dark? Like this ebola thing….who benefits from keeping us ignorant of the facts on the ground?

      48. The only laws I consent to are the ones that restrict goverment from violating the people’s rights and I’ve got the criminals covered.

        Judge not, love your brothers.

      49. Rockefellers, Duponts, and Hearst families had marijuana internationally criminalized so that hemp could not be grown for paper, cloth, and meds etc.

        Dupont sold chemicals for paper production and Hearst had the newspapers to influence public opinion, Rockefeller owned timber lands for pulp.

        “Competition is a sin”- John D. Rockefeler

      50. gotta go with Dr. Paul on this

        “Dr Paul took to Twitter to prescribe a straight up shot of reality, and warn those celebrating the downfall of Democratic power, that there will be no real change in philosophy in Washington.”

        Ron Paul On GOP Victory: Get Ready For “Expanded Neocon Wars In Syria And Iraq”

        “Looks like big Republican win tonight. Power shift? Yes. Philosophy shift? No!”

        get ready to send your sons into the sausage grinder

        “Republican control of the Senate = expanded neocon wars in Syria and Iraq. Boots on the ground are coming!”

        you voted for Hope and Change in 2014
        now bend over
        cause yer gonna get it !!!

        • The Commander in Chief is a Democrat, Satori, or did you miss that fact?

          Congress doesn’t order the troops into combat, Obama does.

          When his pathetic attempt to win wars by air power fail, it’s going to take troops to prevail, or he can cut and run.

          Rand Paul is talking out of his hat on this one.

      51. WASHINGTON — All but overlooked in the Republican Senate landslide is the double-digit loss of seats for Democrats in the House. The outcome casts a cloud on House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi’s future, potentially throwing the House out of reach for Democrats in 2016 and dashing Pelosi’s dream of serving as House speaker with a President Hillary Rodham Clinton.

        they say that like its a bad thing……lol

      52. Democratic pollster Pat Caddell was visibly upset at the response Sen. Harry Reid gave after Republicans swept to victory Tuesday night, ensuring that Reid would lose his status as Senate majority leader.

        Reid issued a statement saying, “I’d like to congratulate Sen. [Mitch] McConnell, who will be the new Senate majority leader. The message from voters is clear: They want us to work together. I look forward to working with Sen. McConnell to get things done for the middle class.”

        Fox News anchor Eric Shawn asked Caddell how Reid could make such a statement after he had spent his leadership blocking amendments from both parties.

        “He could be on the Chicago Bears,” Shawn suggested, prompting Caddell to respond, “Actually, he should be in the Chicago mob.”

        Caddell said he is upset that the GOP has not taken on the fact that Reid “became a dictator,” allowing only 19 amendments in the past session.

        “The man is a disgrace to democracy,” Caddell said. “I want to say this as a Democrat: I think at some point you should stand up for your country as an American.”

        and more so, he’s a disgrace to our REPUBLIC!

      53. Drunks, Stoners, Wasteoids = Low motorskills, Incoherent thought processes, and Easily Manipulated = ADVANTAGE ME

        • That is until you realize that there are those in the 80-90th percentile for earnings who utilize the creativity derived from these substances to their economical advantage. And when you encounter that person who is easily IQ 160+ who smokes pot daily and still outsmarts and outperforms you on every scale and metric in life, it makes you think, does it not? I didn’t think so.

          At the tech conventions I attend it is not uncommon to go out with colleagues and drink like a fish yet still have more brain capacity the next day than the average person. Some great ideas are invented on bar napkins! To find vulnerabilities in software and hardware or design complex networks takes a special breed. FYI: many of them are avid pot smokers – more than one might suspect. Even more are into booze and at least one I’ve met can’t code without an 8 Ball – crazy. I’m not even sure exactly what that is other than it involves crack cocaine.

          Understanding even the basics of cryptology, wrapping your head around complex systems and algorithms used for solving problems isn’t for the feeble minded. And yet some can do it while completely stoned. Makes you think doesn’t it…oh, wait, maybe not.

          Above average earning capacity and 21st century skill set that is in demand worldwide….. Advantage = mine. Even if TSHTF….I’ve got above average skills in other areas. High capacity to learn means that skill acquisition is much faster than the average. Same with situational assessment/analysis.

          While I also agree that the low IQ users are easy targets, I wouldn’t discount the upper level performers. You may not even be aware of just how far ahead some folks are despite being drunken stoners. To miscalculate based on stereotypes would be a mistake. They’re not all Cheech and Chong. Some are running multi-billion dollar companies and some are underground doing things that even our intelligence agencies have not yet gotten up to speed on despite billions spent and thousands employed. When caught or identified, they are usually offered jobs. Heck, the FBI recently had to change hiring criteria to allow hiring of former pot smokers because they were unable to find talent to fill critical positions otherwise. Makes you think, doesn’t it? No, I suppose for many it doesn’t. Can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him think.

          • @SheepDawg…..

            Oh SheepDawg, don’t be so silly. You’re not the only one who knows how to left shift and right shift bits. You’re not the only one who knows how to XOR bytes and words. My favorite encryption algorithm is Blowfish. Just got done about 4 months ago porting it to c# from c++. What’s your favorite encryption algorithm?

            Advantage who?

            • One time pads FTW! Twofish otherwise.

              Mostly my post was about how it is a strategic blunder to make assumptions based on stereotypes or misconceptions of a whole group based on a few (who aren’t really applicable based on low IQ anyway).

              During WW2 it was thought that the Japanese were too myopic to fly planes. Bad assumption. A miscalculation. Same reason I don’t buy into the stereotype that the Chinese are uncreative and can only copy designs. While it might be overwhelmingly true in many regards, I’m not buying into it entirely and I wouldn’t want to base any long term business or military strategy on that premise.

              I’m guessing based on your second post that you would also run circles around an average person while intoxicated. The advantage you have would be self-evident in that situation. While my comment was a bit cheeky, I also didn’t want to assume too much about your situation. I can be snarky to my own detriment at times. Mostly before caffeine blood saturation levels have reached optimum levels I suppose.

              One of the most brilliant devs I’ve met was a complete stoner. Again, his high IQ allowed that even while his cognitive abilities were attenuated by cannabis, his performance still ran circles around the rest of the team.

              [Black, grey or white] hat tilt to you as your situation may be similar to my own. I won’t divulge too much on this site, but I hear where (I assume) you’re coming from.

      54. A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don’t have one, you’ll probably never need one again.

        The definition of the word conundrum is: something that is puzzling or confusing.

        Here are six conundrums of Socialism in the United States of America:

        America is capitalist and greedy – yet half of the population is subsidized.

        Half of the population is subsidized – yet they think they are victims.

        They think they are victims – yet their representatives run the government.

        Their representatives run the government – yet the poor keep getting

        The poor keep getting poorer – yet they have things that people in other
        countries only dream about.

        They have things that people in other countries only dream about – yet they want America to be more like those other countries.

        Think about it!

        And that, my friends, pretty much sums up the USA in the 21st Century. Makes you wonder who is doing the math.

        These three sentences tell you a lot about the direction of our current government and cultural environment:

        We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but
        we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.

        Funny how that works. And here’s another one worth considering….

        Seems we constantly hear about how Social Security is going to run out of money. But we never hear about welfare or food stamps running out of money? What’s interesting is the first group “worked for” their money,
        but the second didn’t.

        Think about it…..and last but not least,

        Why are we cutting benefits for our veterans, no pay raises for our military and cutting our army to a level lower than before WWII, but we are not stopping the payments or benefits to illegal aliens.

        Am I the only one missing something?

      55. We have ebola under control.
        Clapper gave me wrong Intel. It’s his fault.
        I promised to end the war in Iraq and I did.
        I never ordered the Taliban swap it was Hagel
        Not even a smidgeon of corruption
        I only found out about it when I saw it on the news.
        We won’t negotiate with terrorists.
        I will have the most transparent administration in history.
        I have Shovel ready jobs.
        The IRS is not targeting anyone.
        Benghazi was about a movie.
        If I had a son.
        I will put an end to the type of politics that “breeds division, conflict and cynicism”.
        You didn’t build that.
        I will restore trust in Government.
        The cops acted stupidly.
        I am not after your guns.
        The Public Will Have 5 Days To Look At Every Bill That Lands On My Desk.
        It’s not my red line it is the worlds red line.
        Whistle blowers will be protected.
        We got back Every Dime we Used to Rescue the Banks, with interest.
        I will close Gitmo.
        I am not spying on American citizens.
        ObamaCare will be good for America.
        You can keep your family doctor.
        Premiums will be lowered by $2500.
        If you like your plan, you can keep it. Period.
        We’ll put it on C-Span.
        57 states.
        Your taxes will not go up unless you make more than 250K a year.
        I will cut the deficit in half in 3 1/2 years or this will be a one term proposition.
        The recession is over.
        I’m not an ideologue.
        We will get to the bottom of this.
        I will not sign the NDAA bill.
        Reverend Wright
        Bill Ayers
        no lobbyists in my administration.
        I’ll go through the budget line by line.
        Fast And Furious.
        I’ve never met the uncle I used to live with.
        I Barack Hussein Obama pledge to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America

      56. Obama & Democrats failures with “Taxpayer Money” in addition to OBAMA-CARE.

        Evergreen Solar ($25 million)*
        SpectraWatt ($500,000)*
        Solyndra ($535 million)*
        Beacon Power ($43 million)*
        Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million)
        SunPower ($1.2 billion)
        First Solar ($1.46 billion)
        Babcock and Brown ($178 million)
        EnerDel’s subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)*
        Amonix ($5.9 million)
        Fisker Automotive ($529 million)
        Abound Solar ($400 million)*
        A123 Systems ($279 million)*
        Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($700,981)*
        Johnson Controls ($299 million)
        Brightsource ($1.6 billion)
        ECOtality ($126.2 million)
        Raser Technologies ($33 million)*
        Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)*
        Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)*
        Olsen’s Crop Service and Olsen’s Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)*
        Range Fuels ($80 million)*
        Thompson River Power ($6.5 million)*
        Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)*
        Azure Dynamics ($5.4 million)*
        GreenVolts ($500,000)
        Vestas ($50 million)
        LG Chem’s subsidiary Compact Power ($151 million)
        Nordic Windpower ($16 million)*
        Navistar ($39 million)
        Satcon ($3 million)*
        Konarka Technologies Inc. ($20 million)*
        Mascoma Corp. ($100 million)
        Cash for Klunkers (4 Billion)

        Just to name a few

        i could probably keep going lord knows there is plenty of shitty things to remind everyone about whos at the helm and what hes up to

        • Great list. This should be pasted on the wall of every government office building in the USA.

      57. Harry Reid is in a class of corruption by himself. One of his sons and his son-in-law lobby in Washington for companies, trade groups and municipalities seeking Reid’s help in the Senate. A second son has lobbied in Nevada for some of those same interests, and a third has represented a couple of them as a litigator.

        In the last four years alone, their firms have collected more than $2 million in lobbying fees from special interests that were represented by the kids and helped by the senator in Washington. Apparently such activities are not illegal. They should be. Harry Reid has four sons who all work for Nevada’s largest law firm, Lionel, Sawyer & Collins. All of them have benefited by Reid.”

        • I am ashamed of that senator to the south. Luckily he had been neutered. One of his sons ran for Governor in 2008. He got beat by the republican who has a Mexican last name… who also just got re-elected. He is a RINO but better than Reid.

          The bumper stickers in 2008 read:

          “Two Reids don’t make a right”

          I also wonder how these politicians become millionaires on that salary.

          In 2016, Gov. Sandoval will resign 2 years into his term to his RINO Lt. Gov. and remove Harry from office by taking his place in the Senate.

          Everybody cheer for the lesser of two evils. Yay!

          • As a Nevada Gambling Man, I’ll take odds on the above… 5 to 1 Sandoval takes Harry’s Senate Seat in 2016. Any takers?

      58. ok I’ll stop after this

        should make you mad at them.. not me. but im sure the red thumb army will bash my head in over these past few posts

        First President to be photographed smoking a joint.
        First President to apply for college aid as a foreign student, then deny he was a foreigner.
        First President to have a social security number from a state he has never lived in.
        First President to preside over a cut to the credit-rating of the United States.
        First President to violate the War Powers Act.
        First President to be held in contempt of court for illegally obstructing oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico.
        First President to require all Americans to purchase a product from a third party.
        First President to spend a trillion dollars on “shovel-ready” jobs when there was no such thing as “shovel-ready” jobs.
        First President to abrogate bankruptcy law to turn over control of companies to his union supporters.
        First President to by-pass Congress and implement the Dream Act through executive fiat.
        First President to order a secret amnesty program that stopped the deportation of illegal immigrants across the U.S., including those with criminal convictions.
        First President to demand a company hand-over $20 billion to one of his political appointees.
        First President to tell a CEO of a major corporation (Chrysler) to resign.
        First President to terminate America ’s ability to put a man in space.
        First President to cancel the
        National Day of Prayer and to say that America is no longer a Christian nation.
        First President to have a law signed by an auto-pen without being present.
        First President to arbitrarily declare an existing law unconstitutional and refuse to enforce it.
        First President to threaten insurance companies if they publicly
        spoke out on the reasons for their rate increases.
        First President to tell a major manufacturing company in which state it is allowed to locate a factory.
        First President to file lawsuits against the states he swore an oath to protect (AZ, WI, OH, IN).
        First President to withdraw an existing coal permit that had been
        properly issued years ago.
        First President to actively try to bankrupt an American industry (coal).
        First President to fire an inspector general of AmeriCorps for catching one of his friends in a corruption case.
        First President to appoint 45 czars to replace elected officials in his office.
        First President to surround himself with radical left wing anarchists.
        First President to golf more than 150 separate times in his five years in office.
        First President to hide his birth, medical, educational and travel records.
        First President to win a Nobel Peace Prize for doing NOTHING to earn it.
        First President to go on multiple “global apology tours” and concurrent “insult our friends” tours.
        First President to go on over 17 lavish vacations, in addition to date nights and Wednesday evening White House parties for his friends paid for by the taxpayers.
        First President to have personal servants (taxpayer funded) for his wife.
        First President to keep a dog trainer on retainer for $102,000 a year at taxpayer expense.
        First President to fly in a personal trainer from Chicago at least once a week at taxpayer expense.
        First President to repeat the Quran and tell us the early morning call of the Azan (Islamic call to worship) is the most beautiful sound on earth.
        First President to side with a foreign nation over one of the American 50 states (Mexico vs Arizona).
        First President to tell the military men and women that they should pay for their own private insurance because they “volunteered to go to war and knew the consequences.”
        Then he was the First President to tell the members of the military that THEY were UNPATRIOTIC for balking at the last suggestion.

        • Depending on how ‘le etat, c’est moi’ he gets in the next year, he could also be the first President removed from office by the Senate, if impeached by the House.

          I don’t think that will happen, but he’s certainly working diligently at it.

          • He could also be the first President to be physically dragged out of the white house, and hung by the neck until dead… 🙂

        • Enemy of the state, I just gave you a thumbs up. I’ll come back later and give you another one.

        • Joan Rivers–first whistle blower to get her throat cut for blowing the whistle on the potus and his boyfriend.

          First American president to present his boyfriend as the first lady.

          First and foremost, we Americans should hang our heads in shame that we are not in DC demanding this charade come to a halt, NOW.

          We must be the laughing stock of the world.

      59. So 65% voted for marijuana usage in DC……Now we know why they can’t get anything done up there. They’re all stoned.

      60. is anybody really naive enough to think that there is a true
        “war on drugs” ???

        $7 Billion U.S. Eradication Effort Delivers Record High Poppy Crop in Afghanistan

        sounds more like a war to increase production to me

      61. @ PISSED OF GRANNY, JOHN Q.PUBLIC, THEM GUYS, others. This is one of the best explinations as to what I think is going on. I think you guys will love this. For those of you who think granny, John Q. public, and them guys aren’t telling you the truth about ” the chosen ones “ the following video. Search Engine this term and watch the video….REVEALING THE SATANIC SERPANT RACE….<<<< youtube that term and blew me away!!
        Barn Cat.. watch that and then come back and tell me the jewish people are still the " chosen ones " I was once like you Barn Cat…until I realized I was being lied to.

      62. “Marijuana Becomes the Last Crime to be Decriminalized in D.C.”

        You know, I started to read this article, but stopped after a couple of paragraphs. I’m sorry, but the legalization of small amounts of pot, is the least of our worries. This article comes off sounding like they just legalized murder, rape or some other violent act. They did not. The headline just seethes and wreaks of the author’s disdain.

        What they did do, is make a few changes in the way cops operate.

        1. The alleged smell of pot will no longer be a cops justification for tearing someone’s car or home apart looking for it, or more likely, looking for the cash they can still smell. The cash is what they’re always after, bot the pot.

        2. The prison load will ease.

        3. They won’t be confiscating houses, expensive cars and large amounts of cash, because they found a joint or a few crumbs left in an otherwise empty baggie.

        Damn, I’ll bet police depts are going to really hate this.

        Now, can we all focus on something IMPORTANT? Takwe your pick, there are plenty of important issues out there right now…

        • …”not the pot”…

        • Agree 100%

      63. I do not use pot but I am glad for any place that makes it legal. I have never known someone to get hurt or hurt someone under its influence. I use to drink and have not in 10 years. I wish that alcahol was illegal. I am friends with 3 law enforcement officials and according to them 75 percent of all calls involve alcahol and almost none of the calls are due to the fact of someone using pot.

      64. DC should have been the last place pot was legalized, every politician in DC that voted for this should be arrested and tried for treason, drugs for themselves but not the rest of the country, what a crock of shit. Understand that i dont use drugs or drink booze but its the principal

      65. Drugs and alcohol are nothing more than traps set by the enemy to ensnare you. Steer clear of them .

      66. zOMG people are smoking weed and hiring prostitutes. This affects my life! My god when I think of “SHTF Plan” the first thing I think of is pot smoking prostitutes coming to take my stuff. I can’t even read this page anymore.

        • gnosis, that is without a doubt the funniest post on this site in a long,long time. Well Put!

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