This article was originally published by Matt McGregor at the Epoch Times.
A leaked Zoom conference reveals a doctor questioning how to increase the count of COVID-19 patient numbers on the hospital’s dashboard report.
The media outlet National File said it obtained the recording from an “internal source” at the Novant Health System that includes New Hanover Regional Medical Center in Wilmington, North Carolina.
National File posted the video on its Twitter feed on Sept. 10.
National File and other local media outlets that reported on the leak identified the people in the video as Mary Kathryn Rudyk, a physician at the medical center, who is asking Carolyn Fisher, the hospital’s director of marketing, how to inflate the number of people classified as COVID-19 patients for the purpose of generating fear in the unvaccinated.
“I think we have to be more blunt, we have to be more forceful—we have to say something coming out—if you don’t get vaccinated, you know you are going to die,” Rudyk said in the video. “Let’s just be really blunt to these people.”
The video begins with Fisher explaining how her department is communicating “meaningful numbers”—the percentage of the unvaccinated, vaccinated, and percentage of deaths in the Intensive Care Unit (ICU)—to the public.
Rudyk then asked how post-COVID cases can be included in the number of people hospitalized for COVID-19.
“My feeling at this point in time is that maybe we need to be completely a little bit more scary for the public,” Rudyk said. “There are many people still hospitalized that we’re considering post-COVID, but we are not counting in those numbers, so how do we include those post-COVID people in the numbers of patients we have in the hospital?”
Fisher asked if she meant every patient who has been in the hospital “since the beginning of COVID?”
Rudyk answered, “Well, that are still in, and that’s something I can take to someone else, but I think those are important numbers: the patients that are still in the hospital, that are off the COVID floor but still are occupying the hospital for a variety of reasons.”
Also on the Zoom conference call was Shelbourn Stevens, president of New Hanover Regional Medical Center, who said those patients are classified as “recovered.”
“But I do think, from our standpoint, we would still consider them a COVID patient because they’re still healing,” Stevens said.
Rudyk said she thinks those patients need to be “highlighted as well, because once they’re off isolation, they drop from the COVID numbers,” prompting Stevens to say that they can later talk offline about “how we can run that up to marketing.”
Novant Health Response
In response to questions asking for confirmation on if people in the video were employees of New Hanover Regional Medical Center and what the context of the video was, a spokesperson for Novant Health told The Epoch Times that staff involved in the excerpt of the video are seeing the “highest levels of COVID-19 hospitalizations and deaths so far in this pandemic, despite having safe and effective vaccines widely available.”
“This was a frank discussion among medical and communications professionals on how we can more accurately convey the severity and seriousness of what’s happening inside of our hospitals and throughout our communities,” the spokesperson said. “Specifically, the data we have been sharing does not include patients who remain hospitalized for COVID-19 complications even though they are no longer on COVID-19 isolation, so it does not provide a complete picture of the total impact of COVID-19 on our patients and on our hospitals.”
The hospital continues to be concerned with misinformation, the spokesperson said, and that it strives “to be transparent and tell the whole story.”
Hospitals offering only supportive care will naturally have higher rates of long-term hospitalizations and deaths.
Therapeutic care, especially inexpensive and effective therapeutic care using ivermectin, has been largely ruled out.
The higher-ups want only the vaccines used. If they don’t work, they don’t care. Noble failure is the epitome of perverse virtue signalling. There are places cutting beds despite the pandemic; they prioritize saving money over saving people.
Even a pharma-profitable intervention like monoclonal antibody treatment, has been taken under federal control from the States ‘to ensure fair distribution’ – which means none at all or in doses too small to really be effective.
Supportive care – which is a bed, an IV (maybe), an antibiotic against secondary infections like pneumonia, (which won’t work against viruses) and eventually ventilator – will result in the illness taking its ‘natural’ course due to denial of competent therapeutic care.
BA.T. – it’s obvious this whole covid business has been manufactured. The State has the power (even if illegitimate) to mandate and force people to submit to its schemes, the corporations provide the resources to make it possible. It’s a collusion of State and corporate powers – the quintessential definition of fascism. The State obtains more power, the corporations obtain vast profits and privileges like legal immunity from prosecution as a result of cooperating with the State’s schemes. The only one who loses in all this is the people, we are seen as nothing more than managed disposable resources being manipulated for their obscene purposes.
Big business, big corporations, big tech, big pharma, big banks, big finance, etc. loves the State and cooperates with the State because the State can create captive markets for them, guaranteeing huge income streams and illicit profits for years and years.
If anyone is expecting the State to represent the people you can forget it. Besides, the State actually despises the people. This latest scheme only proves that, it wants you to die.
Dims gotta dim.
There are more of them than there are of us.
They aren’t going anywhere any time soon.
California just showed us the future, either prepare for it or be swept away by it.
Anon – I’m inclined not to believe your assertion. Maybe in the state of Calpornia there is, and other states, but not in the country as a whole. It’s just that the left is more vociferous. True, they aren’t going anywhere soon but I don’t expect them to. Calipornia doesn’t show me sh*t except how to conduct corrupt elections. This whole issue about Cali. having political influence throughout the rest of the country can be solved by letting them secede. But they won’t do that, with few exceptions they are a parasite on the rest of the country and could not survive on their own, especially So. Cal. However, I sincerely believe most (not all) Californians would prefer to be a communist state ruled over by the Chinese.
There are not more of them. It is that they group up in the cities vs others spreading out . And they are more rabid vs just wanting to be left alone.
There is a reason they need to manufacture votes and use other means to ” win”.
These doctor’s are the priest’s,the pimps and prostitutes of big pharma,the cultic mystery religion which has intoxicated the worlds inhabitants with its sorcery and pharmakia,preparing them for the manifestation of the Antichrist the man of sin.
When it was allowed by politicians who were BRIBED by lobbyists to pass laws that made the health industry into a HUGE money making PORK industry we became screwed. The laws to remove the profits would stop this and at the same time would cause big pharma to stop doing money making research. it is a wicked two edge sword. BUT the welfare of the public should NOT be a money making industry and those who allowed it and are profiting from this should be considered as treasonous and handled appropriately. Life or execution, your choice.
“Come on…don’t you trust the science?” they ask.
The same science that, 20 or so years ago, had your doctor ask you what your pain level was from 1 to 10? If it was slightly elevated he gave you a script for 30 days of hydrocodone. Same the next month and the next etc. etc.
Fast forward to today and there is an epidemic of people dying from opioid addiction while pharma makes tens of billions.
You mean that science?
Refusal of HCQ, refusal of monoclonal antibody treatment, refusal of antibiotics claiming they do not work on a virus, change definition of “vaccine” twice, change definition of “herd immunity,” change definition of term “pandemic,” one serum injection does is not enough so change to two, two is not enough so change to three, three is not enough so in Israel it is four now with talk of five, the serums have only been available to the public for approximately eight months, change approval process so long term trials no longer means “long term” in order to get approval, change period of concern about side effects from first three days to 1/2 hour after being injected, then change it to not vaccinated at all unless 14 days have passed since the second injection, then municipalities take it upon themselves to change “having been vaccinated” to only mean the period between 14 days after the second injection to three months after that said 14 days, thus people are hardly ever considered to be vaccinated no matter how many injections they receive, thus there are never ever any side effects to said “vaccines.” Mask do not work, mask do work, one mask is not enough wear two, two is not enough wear three, three is not enough wear four. There has never been an isolate. The pcr test does not work so let’s use it for another year or so, Delta is the primary concern now and everyone has Delta, but there is no test to accurately say a person has covid 19 and so we are sure you have Delta though there is no test to determine if you have Delta. 15 days to flatten the curve to wear your mask forever. Kids are not at risk of dying from covid 19 or delta so let’s inject them anyway. Bacterial pneumonia caused by wearing mask was the primary cause of death during the so called Spanish Flu so everyone should wear mask. Kids are not at risk of dying from covid 19 or delta but they are at risk of dying from bacterial pneumonia which is caused by masks so kids should definitely wear masks. More than 525,000 Americans could have been saved with proper treatment so be sure not to give proper treatment. Did I miss anything?
Sorry, I did forget that in the course of only eight months “breakthrough cases are super rare” has been changed to breakthrough cases are common.
And the most important part: While it is all too common place that politicians and msm get away without being punished for their crimes perhaps the most egregious violators in the cv ordeal against humanity have been carried out by the Doctor cohort.
In this light, in addition to violating Nuremberg Code, child abuse, murder, conspiracy to commit murder, mass genocide, conspiracy to commit mass genocide, obstruction of justice, false imprisonment, mass false imprisonment and violating the Geneva Convention the doctors also need to be charged with treason against the United States of America and its people. We also know there is a global pattern to these crimes being committed against humanity. In a Hitler like fashion the War Criminals increase their abuse, murder and threats on a daily basis. We now see in Australia that people will be “locked out” of the medical system and refused medical care if they are “unvaccinated.” If the established pattern follows true we will see the same here.
But I can hardly wait to eat popcorn at their public executions. Those of us who survive will be sure they all get a fair trial.
we have to say something coming out—if you don’t get vaccinated, you know you are going to die,”
Yes, COVID-19 has a 99% survival rate and that is from woke msn. Most people already know this, keep that in mind.
Yes, COVID-19 has a 99% survival rate an that is from woke msn. Most people already know that.
if you don’t get vaccinated, you know you are going to die,”
COVID-19 has a 99% survival rate and that is from woke MSN.
I think most people know that, and will not be fooled.
Even woke sites admit the survival rate is 99%.
The hospital I go to (KP) wouldn’t even give me a Covid test after a co-worker in my office tested positive for it. They told me they don’t test for Covid unless the patient has symptoms. Apparently some medical workers weren’t very worried about Covid, despite the hype from the government and the MSM.
Big gubermint bozos truly are morons if they find this king bidet mandate constitutional. Millions will quit there jobs and if it happens i hope trucking comes to a complete and utter halt. F these nazi commie pigs! This is not home of the free anymore! Its time to stand our ground and tell them we will not comply.
I would rather live there in a tent with my cat then inject a experimental mrna cancer technology into my veins with a litany of side effects including death that is being covered up by mainstream media which is controlled by big pharma!
Go to hell and stick your jabs in each of your major organs in alphabetical order just to make sure you cant contaminate the rest of our country this commie BS!
What utter BS
I’ll give what I believe is causing every alleged ‘infection in (the former) Land Of The Free, Home Of The Brave. Sit down before reading:
Are you strong enough to face, and ACCEPT the stark reality?
Plant THIS seed of information into your mind:
“I’d rather die on my feet than live on my knees.”
We The People MUST stand together, otherwise…we’ll be driven apart.