Just Admit It: You (and your kids) Are State PROPERTY

by | Sep 4, 2014 | Headline News | 119 comments

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    Still think you have “freedom” eh?  Still think you’re the actual parents of your children, and that you should be the ones making decisions about their lifestyle and heatlh?  Or are you simply where all the liabilities reside for the decision to have them, while the choices belong to someone else — you know, like a slave?

    Police have rejected criticism of their search for a five-year-old boy with a brain tumour removed from a UK hospital by his parents against medical advice.

    Ashya King was found in Malaga on Saturday and his parents arrested, following an international search.

    His father Brett King defended his actions in a video posted on YouTube, saying there had been a “ridiculous chase”.

    Hampshire Police said medical advice was that Ashya was in “grave danger”.

    The parents, it turns out, wanted their kid to be treated using a therapy not offered by the UK’s socialized medical services.  Specifically, they wanted to use proton beam therapy rather than what the UK wanted to use (effectively gamma radiation.)  The difference is that proton beam therapy is a more-targeted form of radiation than gamma.  Both are of the same general type, and there is much dispute as to whether proton therapy is as effective in specific cancers.  Then again there’s plenty of argument over whether radiation therapy actually “works” (that is, does less harm and good) in these cases to begin with.

    Brain cancer sucks, by the way.  The most-effective means of getting rid of a cancer is to (as you’d expect) cut it out with a knife.  That’s often impossible when the growth is in the brain, and it’s ineffective when the cancer has spread, since in that case you generally can’t get it all, and if you don’t get it all you’ve only changed the time before the inevitable — and usually not by much either.

    But this case, as with the case of Justina Pelletier, shows that the government believes that children are in fact their property.  Let us not forget that in Justina’s case the state finally came to the conclusion that they were wrong and the parents (and their advocates in the medical system) were right.  That is, they effectively admitted to kidnapping her, in retrospect.

    So who went to prison for that?  Nobody, and nobody will either.  Justina, after a year of this, actually had custody of her formally awarded to the state.  

    And what is going to happen in this case?  The parents have been arrested and will be extradited back to the UK and, of course, have been forcibly separated from their child.

    Doesn’t this tell you exactly what sort of relationship the state recognizes — or doesn’t, as the case may be — when it comes to your children?

    We’re not talking about a situation here where two parents disagree and someone has to make a decision of some kind (e.g. in the instance of a divorce.)  These are both cases where an intact family disagrees with what a state actor believes about a child born to that family.  As soon as that happens you discover that the state in fact has claimed ownershipof that child.

    That’s utterly outrageous — but it in fact happens every day and nobody has done a thing to stop it.


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      1. THIS is where Americans will draw the line. They will be apathetic until the State starts taking their families.

        • The govt best not mess w/ the kids unless they want the bloodiest war ever fought on American soil. They wont just get pounded by American parents but the illegal ones too.

          • Sic Semper Tyrannis

            • We own our servants children then.

          • I will literally bury the first person to mess with my children.

            • Yup, you betchya. Shoot, shovel and shutup

            • Don’t bury them. Buzzards gotta eat too.

              • Eh,the buzzards may have me to contend with,long pig,the other/other white meat.

            • I wouldn’t bother to bury them.

              I’m thinking…hang them from utility poles. Let their rotting bodies be a warning to others who would attempt to follow in their steps.

          • To whom it may concern my son is now a man of 32 In his
            ride to man hood he has gave me 3 grandsons beware
            to those who probe this site that want to harm them
            will die BEWARE……..

            • Why would anyone worry about the empty threats of those on this site or anywhere else? This nation is dead and has done nothing but redraw its pathetic little lines in the sand about its freedom and rights for over a century.

              When you masters want something they will take it and nothing you can do can stop it. And you will roll over for it like good little whipped slaves. You already do, and this particular thing is happening all over the U.S. as we speak, and you do nothing. Already proving you are all cowards and weak mewling infants. Only action reigns and you demonize action thru both sides of your mouth when others do it.

              You and your children are already lost. Stop threatening about ‘THIS’ is the line. If it was you would have already stepped up for others. When it happens to yours or your direct family, you will step off like you have done for decades. NO threats are valid from your kind. A generation which bowed and groveled before its masters when sent to war, a people whom ground its most ardent and selfless defenders into dust over a decade for oil barons, a people whom clap and cheer when their fellow citizens are brutalized and murdered by ‘authority’ at every turn.

              This is what we are. Stop thinking you are anything else but a slave. No matter the false clothes you profess to wear.

          • “The govt best not mess w/ the kids unless they want the bloodiest war ever fought on American soil. They wont just get pounded by American parents but the illegal ones too”

            Give me a break. American parents gave up their children to the government, a long time ago. Case in point, they send their kids to indoctrination centers; feed them gmo junk food and Rx drugs, allow them to be vaccinated, provide them with smart phones, support their obesity, and on and on and on, ad nauseam.


            • Over-generalized jargon. Its like saying all Europeans are socialist dependents and too stupid to realize what they did to themselves.

          • History is the NWO ZOG Future

            “When an opponent declares, “I will not come over to your side,”” I calmly say, “Your child belongs to us already….

            What are you?

            You will die eventually.

            Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.”

            – Adolf Hitler (1889-1945)

          • Problem is, many so called patriots send their kids to gov. schools even knowing about common core, etc.. These loser stuck in stupid apathetic (pathetic) parents are phony patriots with conservative ideology: the Rush Limbaugh or Hannity/ORielly types. Most all would let the gov. take their kids without a fight. The liberal socialists wouldn’t care either. One lady said last week, if Muslims took over the gov. completely imposing Shiria law, most ignorant Americans would line up to get beheaded.

        • They apparently haven’t dealt with parents like myself.
          They would find that hellfire and brimstone was just unleashed.

        • @anonymous…I have to gently disagree. My niece works as a social worker here in Pennsylvania. When children are taken from homes, there is a strong push, after three weeks with in foster care, for the children to begin to be adopted out. Most of the mothers that have their kids removed have drug habits/homeless. When she told me these stories I was appalled. Children, unless severely abused, belong with their parents in my opinion. Our ancestors survived much worse than we have and we are here as proof of their toughness.
          Take for instance the Justine Peltier case recently. I personally would have gone on a shooting rampage beginning with the doctor that would not release her up to the judge that kept her from going home.
          The Peltiers fought it in court while their daughter was literally dying. Shame. People are apathetic.
          Hell, they are letting the cops shoot their dogs! I can’t even begin to explain how quickly I would loose my mind and self control if the cops shot my dogs! Let alone take them or my kids!

          • We remember the Peltier situation well. The wife’s retired RN and said her known mitochondrial disease may have been the reason she was kidnapped. Kidnapped is what we call it anyway.
            Theres a link between the mitochondrial disease and autism. This girl got sicker after she had the flu. She was a subject to study.
            CDC silenced important vaccine study info on autism linked to vaccines and this mitochondial condition. We think this poor girl was kidnapped for medical reasons that the govt was interested in.
            The govt dont give a damn about us, They only want us under their control for reasons most of us here know about.

            • That sounds a lot more like it, Calgagus.

            • A little off topic, but I have a theory about autism and the government. While I do believe it is genuinely a genetic problem and not due to anything else, I think the government exploits people who are on the autistic spectrum (either autistic or broader autistic phenotype). If you look at a lot of shooters and serial killers, many of them show signs of autism and were somehow involved with the government. This could be because their parents were government employees and thus their kids got their care from their insurance or they were the victims of experiments like MK-Ultra (see: Ted Kazynski). I think the government found a way to use the unique traits of how the autistic brain sees things to manipulate them. Thus they become sleeper agents, waiting for activation. This seems to be what has happened with some of the more recent school shootings. I think the government activated these people in order to try and drive public opinion.

              They make ideal subjects for such things due to the tendency to be narrow focused obsessives with limited social skills and few friends. This limits the number of people who might learn of their plans and be able to stop them. They also tend to be more likely to take things at face value and not question authority figures. I think these traits are being exploited for evil by sociopaths in the government instead of being treated to help them integrate. I don’t think this happens to all autistic people, just a key few that the government identifies as being ideal for their plans.

              Please don’t get me wrong! I have nothing against people with autism and may in fact be somewhere on the spectrum myself. However, I made these connections while investigating the condition to see if it fit the unusual person I am (I concluded it didn’t fit well enough to warrant diagnosis). Too many factors matched the people who committed certain crimes for it to be coincidence.

              • @Winston Smith
                What you suggest dont explain the increases in autism over the years though. Now when you say shooters and serial killers, are you meaning to say mass shooters or just anyone who shoots to kill? Having a hard time w/ thinking this one through.
                Got the link between the recent mass shooters and SSRIs. Cant ignore that one but the msm and govt does.
                SSRIs dont kill people, guns do./sarcasm

                Did a search and PBS article said there aint no increase in autism. CNN said this: Mar 28, 2014 · One in 68 U.S. children has an autism spectrum disorder, a 30% increase from 1 in 88 two years ago, according to a new report from the CDC Thursday.

                A 30% increase in autism 2 years? Maybe you got something there. We know the govt is scared of us, the white male, that is. Highest % of autism found is w/ white males.

                • The increase in cases of Autism is due to a change in the definition of the disorder. until recently, only people who would be now considered mid or low functional were identified as autistic whereas now people who are on the margins are now classified this way. There is also an increase in public understanding that means more children than ever are being screened for it. The reason it is diagnosed most frequently in white males is that they are the most likely to be screened for it. This is due to whites being in a better position educationally and economically than other racial groups in the US. Thus their parents are more likely to know of it and be able to spot the signs. It does exist in girls too, but tends to present itself differently in females than in males, so it may not be recognized as easily.

                  As for shooters, yes, I was talking about mass shootings like Sandy Hook (he was diagnosed with Asperger’s Syndrome, a high functional form of autism). It’s actually the incident that made me look further into the possible connection and to try and see if the descriptions of people involved in these incidents lined up at all. I tried to find a link from online sources, but no one else seems to have come upon the idea and posted it.

                  Also, I don’t think the government is causing autism. If anything it might be an increase in drug use by mothers during pregnancy which causes certain neural pathways to either not form or over form in these children. I just think the government is exploiting the condition in a limited number of them in order to push a disarmament agenda. It’s one of my more out there theories, and I haven’t pursued it in a while, but I do think there may be something there. Ted Kazynski’s personality read like a dictionary description of Asperger’s and we know he was involved in MK Ultra, which led to his later turning into the Unabomber. Granted, this was before Autism was defined as broadly as it is today (thus he was never diagnosed), but he still had those personality traits, which the government may have identified as being easy to turn to it’s purposes.

        • Maybe you all forgot Justina Pelletier

          look it up

          • I remember Justina and I haven’t heard if her health has improved since she’s been back in her parents care and under the care of doctors of their choice.

            I’m hoping that she’s doing much better, that she’s out of the wheel chair and onto a good recovery.

            It would further justify the disgust I felt when I was reading about their battle with the state. It would also add weight to a civil lawsuit against all involved with her abduction.

        • Apparently not many people have heard of ‘Operation Red Ribbon’. Children were taken to Mile High Stadium in Denver from local schools, without their parents knowledge for a ‘drill’. The whole purpose of the drill was to separate children from parents while they are MOST vulnerable…while at school.

          Just as Men, Women and children are now segregated at the entrances to football games and other sporting events, it is ALL about ‘control’ and TPTB exerting more and more of it each and every day.

          • Socrates,
            I remember hearing about the Colorado children event, and I’m trying to find it now on the internet to no avail, Surprise, Surprise. Can you provide some links for more reading about this?


          • They are really segregating men, women and children at the entrances to sporting events? Could you link this also, if you dont mind, please?
            If true, I find it absolutely ludicrous, who the f..k in their right mind would be segregated from their family to watch a sporting event? People are freakin morons.

            • Hey Outlaw;
              I don’t have any links to the sporting events entrances, just my own experience over the past year or so. We attend several MLB games and one NFL game a year (me,wife,and 2kids)

              They separate the men and the women. Not the kids. I’m sure there may be some other nefarious reason for separating men and women, but I don’t know.

              In general they do it because everyone who enters the stadium is searched in one way or another. Usually by either a walk through metal detector or one of those wands.

              Just like at the airport if they detect something it triggers some type of additional search. And as a rule men cannot search women and women can not search men. So that is the primary reason for the separation of men/women.

              And usually my wife takes one child and I take the other. And it is never an issue.


        • really that’s the tipping point
          well just like everything else it was passed decades ago and not only do they cheer on the taking of kids and ruining of families they pay to support it
          cps also has been doing it for decades
          nothing to stop it and ppl helping in the abductions

        • MS-13 and any children infant to age 35 coming over the border belong to the state…

          • Braveheart doesn’t belong to any tyrannical regime.

            • I’m with you RB….

              They can kill me, or leave me alone. (goes for my family too)

              If they elect to kill me, they’d best be prepared to have to deal with more than one body.

              • Walt, same here. Anyone feels froggy toward me they better be ready to go straight to hell.

        • “THIS is where Americans will draw the line”

          Unfortunately, not true. Most Americans (overweight, state dependent, mainstream media brainwashed couch potatos) will just remain on their overstuffed recliners with their domino’s pizza crumbs on the belly and their remote controls in their hands, while CPS takes their children away “for evaluation”.

          • Sadly, I fear this is true.

        • Really? Child Protective Services take children in Texas all the time because of some ill-trained caseworkers’ notion that they are “at risk of harm.”

        • Anonymous says:
          Comment ID: 3218872

          re the above statement BULLSHIT the sheeple and most of America are sheeple will just go along with what ever happens.

          everyone here keeps saying not one more inch
          but all i hear is talk talk talk and more bs

          if we are all so damn fed up with the BS then why is it the TPTB get away with even more every day

          if everyone is so damn fed up why don’t we hear about politicians being run out of office

          hey at least i am getting my scope adjusted and figuring out wind age etc for the up coming fight

          what is most of America doing ?? whining about some dried out old celebrity dieing

          skittle shitting unicorn

        • You are completely wrong, they didnt stand up against vaccines, they didnt stand up against indoctrination in schools, they didnt stand up against fast food and they didnt stand up against behavioral drugging under the ADD ADHD bullshit!

          Americans are already lost and there will not be an awakening. What there will be is as poverty ridden third world hell where once a free and prosperous country stood.

          • And parents stood by while the TSA groped their children at the airport. Millions of parents put their children into public school systems every year!! The kids spend hundreds of hours under the authority and control of Marxist teachers, drugged adults, armed thugs with uniforms, drugged up classmates, and every other type of toxic human being. And many school districts were not required to screen every employee for sex crimes until the passage of a FEDERAL LAW in 2013…

            h t t p://the hill. com/blogs/floor-action/house/329967-house-votes-to-require-criminal-background-checks-on-school-employees

        • If that was true, the public schools would not exist.

      2. Just another number…..
        Bob Segar


          10) You are guaranteed to get at least a little something in the sack.
          9) If you get tired, you can wait 10 minutes and go at it again.
          8) The uglier you look, the easier it is to get some.
          7) You don’t have to compliment the person who gives you some.
          6) It’s O. K. when the person you’re with fantasizes you’re someone else,
          because you are.
          5) Forty years from now you’ll still enjoy candy.
          4) If you don’t like what you get, you can always go next door.
          3) It doesn’t matter if the kids hear you moaning and groaning.
          2) Less guilt the morning after.

          • I had an old guy tell me one time, that “Eating is better than sex.” I replied, “Maybe its the nasty skanks you keep sleeping with.” lol

        • I feel like a stranger in this land…

      3. Last night I seen an Idaho license plate that said “North America” at the bottom. Whats up with that? Does any other states have that junk? I guess the North American Union is still in full throtle with the borders open.

        • Indy, Sounds like Florida with all the hundreds of License plate types. Save the manatees, Save this and that. “The Right to Life” I want to get one that says “The Right of Death” after the Terry Schivo case, let the poor lady die will ya. Every government agency had to get their 2 cents in on that one.

          • It must have been 20 or 30 years ago, but a guy in Maine changed the motto on his license plate from Vacationland to Taxationland and was arrested for destruction of state property. I can’t remember how the case ended though.

            • This one had Idaho at the top middle portion and at the bottom it said NORTH AMERICA in bold. Crazy considering it being the redoubt.

              On another note. Joan Rivers died, guess she shouldn’t have meantioned barry’s bath house and mooshels front bulge.

              • Indy Colts, I saw that about Joan Rivers. One less commie and feminazi walking the face of this earth now.

                • Hell Brave, I don’t know who the good guys and the bad guys are now days. We even had a couple turds here that refuse to flush.

                  I’ve been staying away from the fear porn lately but still read Mac’s articles to stay in the know. Hope all is well with you brother.

                  • I liked Joan in that she hit everyone with a barb,no political correctness nor favors for the elite,the way humor should be,everyone is fair game.

                  • Indy Colts, I’m still going strong and still prepping for what’s coming. Take care.

                • Amen RBH. One less tribal bitch.

      4. In my estimation, we have been traveling down a socialist path for decades…. It’s been spoon fed to us slowly and at times it occurs rapidly, but now, it’s on hyper-drive delivered by obama and his minions.

        However, I blame all of “us”. We allowed it to occur and now that the proverbial frog is considering jumping out of the pot of boiling water, I wonder if it is too late.

        The job obama has done to get millions more on some sort of government sustenance may have flipped us over to where too many people do not want to give up getting their free chyttt. Too many lazy people not paying any attention to this, I fear…..

        • Lets quit blaming US and start blaming the corrupt politicians that have sold us all down the river.
          I used to be a Republican but now I recognize them as “Dem Lite”
          I had always voted Conservative until I finally saw that the conservatives were only conservative until they got elected and then they were all “Dem Lite” until they started running for the next election and suddenly found their Conservative beliefs again.

      5. You can have my children when you pry them from my cold dead fingers.

        But you will have to get thru my wife first, and she will be downright vicious. I fear for your safety if you choose to confront momma bear. I will not be able to protect you.

        • Amen. If they think a snake killed by a woman is ugly, wait till they see what she’ll do to them.

        • hell,, they better fear my offspring,, they are just as vicious as I am

          they came by i honestly ..so they tell me 🙂 guess its who taught them and what

          all of this is if the perps get past me or Momma Bear..she’ll rip your head off and pour draino down their necks

        • Townsaver, I’m with you on that. If I had kids and somebody came to get them, they would receive “lead and brass nutrients” instead.

      6. The events happened in the UK. So yes, if you and your children live in the UK, your children are the property of the state.

        The idea of children belonging to the state is common to all totalitarian ideologies.

        The worst thing about the case in the UK is that the government would rather that the child died receiving treatment the government offers than have the child live by receiving treatment not offered by the government.

        • You missed the part in the article where they mention Justina Pelletier, didn’t you. Custody of her was awarded to the state of Massachusetts because her parents committed the crime of disagreeing with their doctor, and getting a second opinion.

          No kidding. That was it. They took her into a Massachusetts (they are from Connecticut), and they lost their rights as parents. You should look it up sometime.

          Yes, they did eventually win custody back. After well over a year had passed, where they didn’t even have visitation rights without bureaucratic permission. And all the while her condition was deteriorating, because as it turns out the first doctor’s opinion probably was wrong, just as they thought. Nobody bothered asking Justina what she wanted, nor was she allowed to talk openly to her parents. Any contact she had with them was supervised, and she had to code messages to them so they could figure out what was actually going on.

          All right here in the Good ‘Ol U.S. of A.

          • Dante, it’s time for some of these social workers to die.

            • I think the doctor should come first. After all, he is only “practicing”. Yeah, on you and me. He was the one that brought the authorities in, “for the children”.

              So many things can be resolved without doctors. We are just weak now, as a nation, because we know we can go to the doctor to take away the pain. Not the cause of the pain, just the pain.

              What if the doctor just said, “Eat better, quit smoking pot, drinking rum and sleeping with hookers.”?

              Well, then big pharma would be out of business. Imagine the disruption to the economy!

        • Better look again, as this kind of thing happens all to often here in the U.S.

        • not just a uk thing it is the same crown system worldwide and yes it has been going on longer here in the name of safety and protecting the child
          change the name of the crown corporation a little or give it the same name with or without a twist and ppl are to stupid to see it is the same state of county of city of all crown corporation created under the biggest the united states which is not now nor ever was a country or land mass it is a corporation in the district of co——– organic act of 1871 look it up start of a lot of this bs and ppl fell for the scam this is america your an american made up of several countries called states or the united states of american not the united states if you claim to be a united states citezen you are a named legal fiction a small corporation owned by the united states a thing and they decide what to do with you or you can be a free man an american you decide

        • @ Barn Cat : It has happened right here in the good ole USA and is still happening today. Turn off CNN and CNBC and you will see it.

      7. When an opponent declares, “I will not come over to your side,” I calmly say, “Your child belongs to us already… What are you? You will pass on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time they will know nothing else but this new community.”
        – Adolf Hitler

        “He alone, who owns the youth, gains the future.”
        – Adolf Hitler

        The cost of a college education, $240,000 or $15,000…

        Stealing Your Child’s Mind for $240,000 (After Taxes)

        “Would you pay $100,000 (after taxes) for this? This is from Richard Rorty, an influential academic figure in the late 20th century. He speaks for liberal arts professors everywhere. His life’s GOAL was to STEAL our children, and charge parents $240,000 for the privilege.”

        “So we are going to go right on trying to discredit you (parents) in the eyes of your children, trying to strip your fundamentalist religious community of dignity, trying to make your views seem silly rather than discussable. We are not so inclusivist as to tolerate intolerance such as yours…”

        “I am just as provincial and contextualist as the Nazi teachers who made their students read Der Stürmer; the only difference is that I serve a better cause.”

        Or get a college education for much less, $15,000 – see video.


        • KY Mom, I never went to college myself and I would’ve never paid for any kids of mine to get brainwashed at any of these communist institutions. The title of the article is perfect.

      8. ht tp://vaticproject.blogspot.com/2014/09/vatic-alert-traitor-harry-reid-proposed.html
        dirty POS

      9. This is one thing that anyone with any common sense would not want to try to do.

        Can you imagine how much HELL that would be released by a good mother. Zombies and Leaches don’t fall into this category.

        Moms learn to carry a weapon. You can take down more of these slugs that are going to try and take your Kids, than you can take down with your hands.

        Fathers be prepare to give up you life to stop this B.S.

        Grandparents you have lived long enough its time to give your life up for your Grandkids.

        For me I know what I’m going to,” AIM SMAL MISS SMALL”
        You don’t mess with my kids!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • And yet, I’m almost certain the LEO involved went home and slept peacefully.

          I don’t blame politicians any more, I blame the LEO who enforce this insanity on us. For, without them, communities could take care of their own, and the ‘justice’ system would actually mete out justice, rather than seeking money.

          Take this case specifically: if the LEO had honestly been good people and walked away from it, this family would never have been terrified. Anyone who confuses LEO today for the ‘good guys’ needs a set of sunglasses from Roddy Piper, because “they” most assuredly live.

          • Yep the LEO,s are nothing more than the paid vigilantie enforcers. Removing the children for no good reason isn’t anything new. The children of native americans where forcibly removed and sent to indian school ect. Read the Book The Education of Little Tree.

          • Let’s face it….

            The majority of todays LE have become indoctrinated, just like the kids that go to most Universities, they have become politically correct liberals that do the bidding of TPTB.

            There are still many good kids that graduate and have stayed true to their upbringing, as well as LE that are not giving in to the mass leadership.

            But, those numbers are dwindling fast.

            My neighbor LEO, appears to be one of the few good guys left. I hope he just stays that way. So far he seems like the kind of man that will not turn his back on his kids, and do unto others as he would have it done to him and his.

          • Loved that drawn out fight and the phrase”Put on the fucking glasses!”

      10. Well, with common core, the kids are being indoctrinated already to “tell” on their parents, what they have, what they do ect, and if the “state” decides you’re unfit, well good old CPS just step right on in and takes the poor kids to foster care, usually it’s upper lower class or middle class folks because they of course will have to pay the state child support. Nazi brainwashing at it’s finest is going on in the schools these days, glad my kids are grown now, but very worried about the grandkids having to grow up in this indoctrination, so sad really. Hard to say what this country will be like in 20 years when all the grand kids get grown.

      11. Attack of the Zombie Plants: World War A – THE DAILY
        off the subject, but…



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      12. Don’t mess with my kids!! The shyt storm I will bring down on anyone messing with my kids would make the devil say “Damn”
        (Long time reader and stalker first time poster)


        Too many damn women are running the show. The education system, child protective services, athletics, counseling services, have TOO MANY DAMN WOMEN INVOLVED.

        • That reminds me of the joke about the 4 animals that women love the most.

          1. A Jaguar in the garage
          2. A Mink in the closet
          3. A Tiger in bed
          4. And A stupid Jackass to pay for it all

          It was bad. Sorry ladies, it was an old bad joke I heard years ago by a dude recently divourced and taken to the cleaners….

          • I remember this old Rodney Dangerfield skit with Rosanne Barr.

            Rodney says, “Hey Honey, how about we have sex like we did back in the good ol’ days.” Rosanne replies, “OK, Give me $50 Bucks!!”

            Rodney says, “Hey honey how about Sex in the Back seat.” Rosanne says, “OK you jump in the Back seat, and I’ll drive.” No Respect!!!

            Rodney says, Hey everybody remembers the first time, they had sex. Boy I remember my first time,…..I was alone… I miss Rodney!! A true classic.

          • That was a joke?

        • If your water comes from a river or lake that has treated sewage plant water released into it, you are drinking all the drugs that were eliminated into the system by the previous users.

          Psychotropics, birth control medicine, hormones and testosterone killing drugs are not removed when the sewage is treated and released.

          The small mouth bass in a local river are being born as hermaphrodites from all the medicine being flushed down the commode. We are now banned from fishing for them and they will soon be gone…could be the reason for the low T in males.

          I’m glad I have spring water.

        • Spoken like a true fag, there Eisenstein.

        • Acid, I agree with you about feminism; that and affirmative action have done so much to ruin this country. Joan Rivers has kicked the bucket. One less feminazi bitch waling the face of this earth.

      14. Meanwhile, the Wall Street Journal says the economy is fine and dandy:

        Mr. Abbasi said that the U.S. stock market looks poised to continue its march higher in the weeks ahead. “It doesn’t even feel like down is an option right now,” he said. “The fact of the matter is that we’ve continued to rally in the face of all the concerns we’ve seen.”

        • Remember October 24, 1929 (“Black Thursday”) and October 19, 1987 (“Black Monday”).

        • DOLLAR INDEX SPOT Exchange Rate 83.8110 UP-> 0.9460 1.14% Date 09/04/2014 12:15 Mountain Time.

        • The Reasons the stock Market keeps climbing, and at the same time company sales keep going down is that companies are buying back their own stock and its just churning the same old money higher and higher. But retail is dead. Companies are not hiring or expanding, Consumers are tapped out, Unemployment is about 25%, and its just one big Ponsi scheme with no realistic valuation based on any fundamentals. Its all a momentum play.

          I did some day trading back 10 yrs ago and just played the momentum. Its risky, but when all the market does it go higher and higher for no reasonable reason. Its going tobe a big explosion when it popps.

      15. This article reminds me of the old saying,

        ‘The enemy of my enemy is my friend’

        Golly, whose is our enemy and whom is our friend?

      16. My girls are grown and gone and the State still better not mess with them.

      17. Ladies and Gents….don’t get emotional instead think deeply as far as the location of such acts. England/London is the central place of the ZOG movement/planning and most importantly banking cartels. The entire British Government is a ZOG infested entity. While the British citizens are cheering behind the Buckingham palace for a family who has no purpose rather is just a hight class welfare recipient, expect such acts as a norm until is too late.

      18. I found a Chinese SHTF cookbook at a yard sale last week:

        —————-101 Ways to Wok Your Dog—————

      19. eh? Canada can keep their commie sheep herd feminist mentality up in the igloos.

        Modern democracy is a falsehood nothing like Athenian democracy.

        The nerve of those commies trying to own our children. How dare these greedy bureaucratic pigs!

        Is this policy adopted to the feminist ideology ie female teachers getting laid by under aged students and blaming the victim?

        Guess it’s time to homeschool because the UK and Canuck commies are setting shop in my beloved USA.

        • Feminist Teachers Are 99 Problems, welcome aboard, and I totally agree with you about feminism and communism.

      20. and on the other side of the globe

        Cold War part deux

        Russian General Demands Preemptive Nuclear Strike Doctrine Against NATO


        “”First and foremost, the likely enemy of Russia should be clearly identified in this strategic document, something absent from the 2010 military doctrine. In my view, our primary enemy is the U.S. and the North Atlantic bloc,” General Yury Yakubov, a senior Defense Ministry official, was quoted as saying by Interfax.”

      21. Russian General Demands PREEMPTIVE Nuclear Strike Doctrine Against NATO

        “A Russian general has called for Russia to revamp its military doctrine, last updated in 2010, to clearly identify the U.S. and its NATO allies as Moscow’s enemy number one.”

        “Where things, however, get very problematic is that the general demands that Russia spell out the conditions under which the country would launch a PREEMPTIVE NUCLEAR STRIKE against the 28-member military alliance.”


      22. Read and HEED,

        Up at the Hedge minutes ago, is this headline;

        “Major Escalation: Russian General Demands Preemptive Nuclear Strike Doctrine Against NATO.”

        The link will follow as Mac can vet it…

        The article has a Russian General calling for the re-evaluation of the basic Russian ‘strike’ doctrine to include ‘First-Strike’ contingency upon the US and NATO -Bloc elements. This is rather real folks….when this becomes a PART of Russian doctrine it places thier strategic missles – eseentially – on Auto-pilot, and THAT is a MAJOR sterp towards an ‘accident’ that levels Humanity. The Command and Control systems that ALL sides use are fallible and prone to mis-interpretation. Several years ago – in a time of relative LACK of hostilities between the East and West, the launch of a Finnish or Swedish upper atmosphere radio sond almost triggered WWIII. I beleive that was an article HERE lsome time ago, if memory serves.

        How much worse will things be when the current frictions are a part of the mix at hand? THIS, as well as other (even worse scenario’s) are exactly WHY the effort was made to ascertain locations of probable, REAL SAFETY…by ‘him’. Get it now? Act accordingly, time might be VERY SHORT at this point.

      23. H-o-r-s-e-s-h-I-t……never.

      24. Glad I don’t have any kids. I’m already in the can for Social Security……which I paid for so i’m entitled to the money I paid in. The govt. won’t get anything else of mine.

      25. DOJ Holder intends to push civil rights probes to multiple police departments, in my view this can only be seen as using racism as a tool to federalize state/county/city LEO’s.

        Nothing good can come of this for we the people, they’re moving all the pieces on the board and we’re just watching in dismay.

      26. All of those here who looking for some sort of SHTF type event when govt takes over everything aren’t paying attention; they already own you.

        my proof:
        1. try telling a TSA agent no at an airport for anything they desire to do to you.
        2. try telling any local or state cops no.
        3. try telling your school what to teach your kid.
        4. try saying anything you want outside your house.
        5. trying getting money from your account if the bank has decided or been told not to give it to you.

        if we do have a SHTF event, even those that have supplies for a year can be identified and have it all taken and there isnt thing one you can do about it.

        take my advice and enjoy the decline. i recommend newcastle beer and siglo cigars.

        • Lena, if anyone wants to take anything from me, they better forget that idea if they want to live.

          • Lena,
            I agree that we need to enjoy the ride. I prefer Flying Fish beer myself, their Abby Dubel is awesome. I quit smoking two years ago so …. maybe I’ll splurge on some JW Blue Label!


      27. Great! Become a ‘ward’ of the state and sent to Boys Town where they sell you to the highest bidder or drug you and pimp you out to be abused by politicians. All recorded for future blackmail. Who needs to to spend money to own a politician? Just have video of sexual child abuse and you own them. So what if the child survives he grows up to be a social misfit and potential abuser. The govt taking kids will never stop. A steady stream of new crop to use and abuse. The UK is abusing this family. My prayers are with them.

      28. As far as the state and the children as concerned – well lets just say they are money makers for them.
        Check out Susanne Posel who runs the site “Occupy Corporatism” who had an encounter with CPS and because she was aware of her rights and what happens to children once they enter the system.
        I agree – they would only get to my kids over my dead body!!!!!
        Check out her interview on the link below.


      29. Scripture tells me that neither I or the Gubermint owns anything, God owns it all! So let them think whatever they want, I’ll be praying that The Father opens their eyes to the truth.

        Motto: “I God We Trust”, (For great is His faithfulness)

      30. Kids, who needs them? You figure there is some reason to subject more innocent lives to the pure evil of the ruling pathocracy. To bring you joy and to take care of you in your old age. If life was good enough for me, it is good enough for them. Life on this here earth aint what it’s cracked up to be. None of us asked to be born. Too many people, nobody cares. No wonder everyone treats us like animals.

      31. Sic semper evello mortem tyrannis

      32. Stop “Registering” your child with the “State”. They do not belong to the “STATE” so why do people “register” their children with “it”.

        The real truth is that people have given up their responsibility over and for their children. They let the “STATE” educate them from their youth on up, which is the responsibility and job of the parents. They mark the child with a number (socialist insecurity number)from the “STATE”. They teach their “kids” that they are then “residents” of said “STATE” (which is the equivalent of jurisdiction/slavery). Then they teach them that they are “kids” (offspring of goats).

        So of course the “STATE” can take your “kids”. You let them raise them. Teach them. Care for them. Feed them. It is from the doctrine called Parens Patriae.

        So it should be no surprise when the “STATE” comes in doing its “parental duty” that was given to it by an apathetic people who have given up the responsibility to care for their own. I am not saying they are “justified” but one will reap what they sew.

        How about the people take some of their responsibility back and educate their children at home where the duty has always been, with the parents, instead of handing ones “kids” over to complete strangers to teach (indoctrinate) them what is for the best interest of the “STATE”.

        So let it be fresh in your head. It is not the “STATE” claiming but what the parents have given over to the “STATE”. Or better said, the one to whom the parents look to for their source of protection, security, and authority to do the things they do. It I what happens when people have rejected God and look to their own creations for law. They reap what they have sewn.

        Exodus 23:32-33King James Version (KJV)

        32 Thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor with their gods.

        33 They shall not dwell in thy land, lest they make thee sin against me: for if thou serve their gods, it will surely be a snare unto thee.

      33. The public education system should be abolished, because it’s existence is an abrogation of property rights, replace it with tv trasmissions and cheap newspaper quality workbooks that are paid for by advertising in the back pages, or something like that.
        The public education system was obsoleted by the invention of radio, never mind tv, computers, dvd’s, etc.
        All lessons could be transmitted by radio with parents going over with their kids, the workbook that matches the lesson, this would turn responsibility of education back to the parents and if transmissions get political or religious in some way they don’t agree with, they can turn them off. The most expensive part of this is taping the lessons to be transmitted, transmitting itself is very cheap compared to the “normal” public education system…but then again…having a computer and being on-line makes the above idea also obsolete. The lesson here is that if you want an advanced civilized society, you have to have morality and that means people have to stop stealing from each other through the government.

      34. This is is the virtual leader of your life. I know where you are and what direction you wipe your ass. Please change direction…you are doing it wrong!
        It’s for your own good and the health of others.

      35. I hate to admit it but ‘Lena’ and ‘European American’ have a point – we the people have put up with A LOT we should never ever have put up with, already.

        Just what really is the ‘line in the sand?’ Ask yourselves this: are you ready to fight a SWAT team to stand up for you’re most basic human rights like being left alone with you’re own children?

        Tyranny is comming folks, get ready, this fascist dictatorship we live under (you read that right) is getting ready to roll over millions of dead Americans ‘juss cause we can ahh huhuhuhu ahh uhhuhhuh’

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