Jaw-Dropping Revelation: Justice Department Confirms Lost IRS Emails Are Stored On Backup Drives

by | Aug 26, 2014 | Headline News | 126 comments

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    For weeks the IRS and Obama Administration told the American people a carefully crafted narrative regarding the whereabouts of emails containing information surrounding the targeting of specific groups and individuals based on their political party. The Obama administration vehemently denied that such targeting had taken place or that they had any involvement whatsoever. For their part, IRS heads testified that the thousands of emails belonging to director Lois Lerner, who headed the IRS Exempt Organizations Unit, simply disappeared when her hard drive was thrown away.

    Most Americans simply couldn’t believe it. How could an agency that deals with billions of pages worth of tax returns simply lose emails, especially from a department head? Moreover, how is it possible that these emails were not backed up somewhere?

    In June we opined that there must be secondary copies of these emails, simply because the government keeps records of everything. Could you imagine what would happen to the IRS if their main email or data server was destroyed by some far off event, and all of the government’s tax revenues for an entire year were lost? Of course not! It’s simply not a reasonable scenario.

    It turns out, according to a new report, that the government does have backups.

    The Department of Justice has confirmed it.

    But there’s a catch. DOJ attorneys and the IRS are now scrambling to offer up an excuse for why they shouldn’t have to show them to the American public.

    If you’re not upset at government overreach and lack of transparency yet, then this should seal the deal.

    The government says that the problem with accessing the emails is that it would be too “onerous” of a task. Yes, you read that right. They do not want to source the emails because it would be difficult and burdensome.

    Or, is there a second possible explanation for their lack of motivation? Could it be that pulling the emails would result in handcuffs and stiff prison sentences for officials involved in the conspiracy at not only the IRS, but the Treasury Department, the Department of Justice, the Federal Elections Committee and even the White House?

    The records exist. Now they need to be shown to the American public, and if there was any wrongdoing, people need to be sent to prison, up to and including the President of the United States.

    The full report is posted below courtesy of Lily Dane and The Daily Sheeple.

    Lies Exposed: DOJ Admits “Missing” IRS Emails DO Exist
    By Lily Dane (The Daily Sheeple)

    In a stunning turn of events, Department of Justice attorneys for the IRS admitted that Lois Lerner’s emails DO exist on a backup server, but said they would be hard to find.

    Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton broke the news today:

    Department of Justice attorneys for the Internal Revenue Service told Judicial Watch on Friday that Lois Lerner’s emails, indeed all government computer records, are backed up by the federal government in case of a government-wide catastrophe.  The Obama administration attorneys said that this back-up system would be too onerous to search.  The DOJ attorneys also acknowledged that the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA) is investigating this back-up system.

    We obviously disagree that disclosing the emails as required would be onerous, and plan to raise this new development with Judge Sullivan.

    This is a jaw-dropping revelation.  The Obama administration had been lying to the American people about Lois Lerner’s missing emails. There are no “missing” Lois Lerner emails – nor missing emails of any of the other top IRS or other government officials whose emails seem to be disappearing at increasingly alarming rate. All the focus on missing hard drives has been a diversion. The Obama administration has known all along where the email records could be – but dishonestly withheld this information. You can bet we are going to ask the court for immediate assistance in cutting through this massive obstruction of justice.

    Remember, back in June, IRS officials told Congress that the emails were lost and that the agency had gone to “great lengths” to try to retrieve them.

    Conveniently, the emails lost were mainly ones to and from people outside the IRS, such as the White House, Treasury, Department of Justice, FEC, or Democrat offices.

    The shocking information was provided to Judicial Watch by order of U.S. District Judge Emmet G. Sullivan, who, back in July, ordered the IRS to provide a declaration explaining exactly how the agency managed to “lose” two years’ worth of emails belonging to Lois Lerner.

    Fitton spoke to Fox News about the revelation:

    To see the set of sworn declarations from IRS officials, click here.

    Hey, remember when Obama told Bill O’Reilly that there’s “not even a smidgen of corruption” in the IRS?

    Those words are coming back to haunt him.

    Delivered by The Daily Sheeple


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      1. Stan522

        So where the HELL is the special prosecutor?

        • Unreconstructed Southron

          Probably being “arkancided” right now.

          • Gods Creation

            It must be nice for the criminals to claim incompetence to cover their crimes. The corp version of the dog ate my homework story, yet the teacher still gives an A on the assignment because he is part of the family and anything he says must be true.

            Would it be too onerous a task to find those emails? They are on file at the NSA fusion center and available for immediate access by ANY “intelligence” agency WITHOUT a warrant.

            If it was an email from you or me that could be used against us to label us a terrorist, it could be retrieved in .00002 seconds. The same is true with EVERY email sent by anyone, to anyone.

            The onerous task would be explaining the content of the emails to the American People. So I guess, in a way, producing the emails would indirectly result in an onerous task.

            • Wilson

              filing my income taxes has become too onerous a task so I’m not going to file them anymore
              paying my bills has …. well, you get the picture

              • John W.

                In the Fed govt. system e-mails do not reside on a local hard drive on someones desk. They are on servers and they will be mirrored with a RAID backup system. Someone of this morons rank and position would most likely conduct business on a SIPR or even SCI network and in addition to the RAID backup would also have a tape system backup performed daily. These backups are really closely controlled and restricted as to who can access them. The whole BS about her hard drive crashing was made worse in that no one in the Stupid party ever challenged a BS story. That is why the Dems get away with this nonsense. The Stupid party has no nuts.

              • NetRanger

                Wilson! Paying bills and paying taxes are two totally different things.

                Paying taxes allows the government to use them against you.

                Paying bills is a trade of value for goods or services that you can actually use.

                Paying taxes is a synonym for the word “theft”. It is more word magic they’ve cooked up to keep the sheople in line. Theft is illegal, so, we just call it “paying taxes”. See, now don’t you feel better?

                I don’t.


            • clueless

              Correct. The NSA has a backup, at least. The FACT the emails have not been produced tells you a LOT. Who does the NSA represent? Who does the DoJ represent? Who does the IRS represent?
              I know one person who always donates a large portion of his income to his church. The IRS audited him a year ago or so for donations from 1994. He no longer had the receipts and had to pay penalties!!! In contrast, Apple has a HQ is Ireland. LOL! I guess companies can commit fraud openly and the IRS doesn’t give two flips. LOL were it not so tragic.

              • Mr. Smith (Formerly Grafique)

                But have they been edited?

              • Gods Creation

                The IRS can not audit a return after 3 years, nor can you make adjustments to a return older than 3 years.

                Of course, they can send out a million letters to a million potential suckers who don’t know any better and get some of them to respond and even pay what was never owed in the first place.

                The person you “know” is not a victim of the IRS, he is either a liar trying to cover some recent IRS incident with an outrageous story, or a victim of his own ignorance for pulling his pants down and bending over for them.

                I would love to see a copy of the letters they sent him, but I bet you could sooner produce a million hens teeth.

                • John W.

                  That is only true if it is not a case of fraud which has no statute of limitations. Guess what? Fraud is whatever they say it is. You have to prove it is not. Best not to tweak the tigers tail.

                  • Gods Creation

                    John W

                    EVERY action the IRS takes is a fraud, therefore NOTHING the victim does can be anything but a response to fraud.

                    Best not to tweak the Tigers Tail. Best to yank it off and beat the paper tiger with it.

                    There is no case in which the IRS can win so long as the target maintains control over the burden of proof and keeps it on them. They win when they create a controversy because you disagree with them.

                    All you have to do is agree to pay everything they can lawfully prove with signed documents. Then they have ZERO chance of winning.

                    If you are afraid of the IRS, you are not out of the matrix.

                • NetRanger

                  You mean that necklace I bought at the bazaare is made of hen’s teeth like the guy told me? Crap!

                  • NetRanger

                    …is not made of hen’s teeth…

                    Jeez! This iPad spoils all my good jokes.

                • youranidiot

                  What you claim is false. On both account. Period. Just hope you are never the one accused by the IRS.

            • Anubis

              An affirmative action hire ate my emails.

          • Navy Vet

            Compared to Obolo, Nixon was a saint.

            • Hammerun

              Here’s the third and ONLY reason they won’t let the Emails out.
              “Executive Privilege”, watch, this is what’s going to happen. What’s Obama got to loose?
              He’s checked out as a president, he’s done, he don’t want to play any more. He has done all the damage to our country that satisfied his handlers. He’s going to skate off these last two years jerking around and staying out of another war. This is a real big one, they want to hand off another war to the incoming Republican President. Hillary’s done, she’s to dirty and has a bad background. Elizabeth Warren, she’s a joke. So what’s left?
              Maybe one day we could hang Lois’s Emails in Obamas presidential library, kind of a monument to his legacy. Open transparency, HA ha ha!

              • Stan522

                Executive Privilege is only concerning national security. They will have a very difficult time convincing a judge how the IRS conducts business on the citizens of this nation has ANYTHING to do with national security.

                • sixpack

                  “They will have a very difficult time convincing a judge how the IRS conducts business on the citizens of this nation has ANYTHING to do with national security.”

                  I BET THEY WON’T.

                  • sixpack


                • MXLord327

                  Right now, executive privilege is whatever 0bama says it is, there is no opposition to him, that would be raaaaaacist!!!!!!!

              • Gregory8

                If the damned Chinese, Iranians, or whomever, really wanted to create havoc here in America they should hack and crash the IRS computers. All this talk about hacking the GRID or Defense sites is bullshit and only a temporary problem at best. Completely destroy the U.S. taxing and record keeping system and the country would then have a “Real “collapse; No Records=No Income=No Government!!!

            • Navy Vet

              Just to add insult to injury the fed .gov has come up with a new attack on free speech:

              Feds Creating Database to Track ‘Hate Speech’ on Twitter

              The federal government is spending nearly $1 million to create an online database that will track “misinformation” and hate speech on Twitter.

              The National Science Foundation is financing the creation of a web service that will monitor “suspicious memes” and what it considers “false and misleading ideas,” with a major focus on POLITICAL activity online….

              ht tp://freebeacon.com/issues/feds-creating-database-to-track-hate-speech-on-twitter/

              (take out the space between ht and tp)

              • NetRanger

                Hmmm. I wonder if it will track people who talk about Sandy Hook as if it really happened?

                It its accurate, it will. Hehehe. I think the term “Suspicious Memes” in the dictionary is something like this:

                Suspicious Memes: see Sandy Hook.
                I found some others:

                Obvious Hoax: see Sandy Hook.

                Sloppy Con Job: see Sandy Hook.

                Sandy Hook: see Gun Control

                Well, you get the picture.

          • Mountain Trekker

            It’s human nature to be liked and have approval of our peers. But as many know on this site, we have our Remoras when it comes to red thumbs, and I’m about to gain a few more, but sometime we have to take a stand. It’s all to easy to go along, to get along. I know most have heard the saying,”The enemy of my enemy, is my friend” Well that can also be stated “The enemy of my friend, is my enemy” So as plain as I can state it, “Law Enforcement and The Nation Of Israel” are my friends. I’m not here to be accepted by my enemies. Trekker Out.

            • Mr. Smith (Formerly Grafique)

              No “red thumbs” from me.

              Keep on Trekking.

            • Smokey

              Those are not a minority opinions on here.

            • munchkin52

              Well, as on this site, I stay in moderation for hours for no reason!

          • WhoWuddaThunkIt

            This is what I will say when the IRS asks me, “where my payment is?” I will tell them, “I sent it in, but it must be lost with Lois Lerner’s Emails.” “Let me know when you find them both.”

          • apache54

            he is playing golf with the dickhead in the white house!

        • Rodster

          Why should ANYONE be surprised by this revelation? This Gov’t LIES about everything.

          • Calgagus

            The govt is owned by the banking cabal. They dont just lie, they manipulate people w/ their theatrics.
            Everything thats on msm news does nothing but serve a small group of controllers who have devised the plans to keep elitists powerful, and workers working, and welfarer helpless. They are the masters of control. We are the colony propping them up. Welfare gimme dats are the tools. Dont get any simpler than that.

            If you aint going Galt, you aint going anywhere.

            • talon1776

              I am John Galt

              • John W.

                Nice to hear. Now get lost. Galt.

            • Archivist

              I have not been on a company payroll in ten years. I bought “Atlas Shrugged” in 1970. I knew before I got out of high school that I didn’t want to work for someone else my entire life. My goal was to quit working by age 50, and I did it.

              • Smokey

                That’s nothing, lots of folks on welfare never even started working !

          • howdy-doody

            That’s the totally silly thing about all this. Everyone, and I mean everyone, knew that Lois Lerner was lying through her teeth, when she gave testimony before congressional committee. But she kept on with her story. people are just sick of the lies. Bottom line, as you say, if it comes from any government agency, assume it is a lie. Then you know the truth.

          • NetRanger


            Wha? Huh? The government lies? Really. Oh, the humanity! You have to be kidding?

            My heart is broken to learn this truth. Are you sure this information is reliable?

            (OK, I just coughed milk up my nose. I’m sorry, I just couldn’t help myself!!!)

            No, really. IT’S TIME! Its time for the three great things that government does (to us):

            1. Lie

            2. Steal

            3. Murder

            There are only three activities of government applied to the world to accomplish all the ancillary things that government supposedly does. The list is ordered in volume of activity. In the overwhelming majority of cases at least two of the above items will be used. In many cases, all three. Only in a select few cases will only one be used.

            Actually, there must be an etymological explanation of the word “government” that ends up making it, essentially “LieStealMurder”. I know you think I’m being sarcastic in all this but, I assure you I am not.

            Take anything that government (any government) has ever done and figure out what percentage of the government effort was put into the three things I listed above. Just think about it. LieStealMurder – Its never just been for the mob.

            Hmmm. There is that Bare Truth Dictionary again:

            Government: see Lie, Steal and Murder

            The really amazing part is that when government gets creative they can accomplish very, very little and yet use all the of the above in MASSIVE ways. I mean, its like killing a gnat with a 2000lbd bomb at times.

            But, what is even MORE amazing is how they will use two items on the list to accomplish the goal that is ALSO on the list.

            All one has to do is look at history.

            As for me, I fear no evil. I fear no disaster, no bullet, no crash, no cliff, no beast. But government? Government scares peewaddin out of me.

        • Booger

          And Oswald acted alone. The real question becomes what will be done about it and who will be held accountable ? I am not overly optimistic that justice will be served. I’ll continue to practice OPSEC and pray !

          • Stan522

            If these emails show this administration targeted conservative groups like we all believe they do, then I am sure there are a line up of people who will fall on the sward for obama. Government has a way of taking this stink of of a piece of shit, if you know what I mean……

            And we will never see obama quit over this… he is just too narcissistic to EVER consider that…….

          • NetRanger

            BULLSHIT! Oswald didn’t act AT ALL! All one has to do is look at the actual evidence.

            The simple fact of the matter is when there is a conspiracy among men, they turn the eyes of the public toward a false perpetrator and then kill him.

            Everyone I have ever asked says Oswald killed Kennedy. They accuse him. Believe me, had it ever gotten to a grand jury or even a sensible judge, it would have been comedy night. To say their case was “weak” would be the understatement of the year.

            Its a lot like that electrical wire spark inside the fuel tank on TWA800.

            You know, its a curse to know as much as I know about so many fields of knowledge. The instant these lying criminals come out with a theory about stuff, I’m laughing my ass off about 10 minutes after its printed.

            The ignorant masses, well, its no wonder government gets away with what it does.

            I came up with a theory a long time ago. It was that The Creator created only a certain amount of intelligence in the universe and most people used to get a decent amount. For the last 30 or 40 years the earth (which I wish to now rename to Planet Stupid) intelligence has fallen into shortage. Like any shortage, the distribution is disparate. While so many get so little, so many others get so much.

            It may not be the actually distribution of the intelligence but the will to use it. Governments, of course, manipulate this in a downward trend, in an attempt to disarm you.

            OPSEC is correct. …of which partly means operate with one in the chamber.

      2. Sierra Dave

        Being in IT. I suspected all along they were available somehwere.

        • Unreconstructed Southron

          Of course they are. It’s the digital age. Hope Trey Gowdy has the balls (and support) to expose them all.

        • Anonymous

          Dirtbags. The whole lot of them.

          This coverup would not have happened if Obama had nothing to lose. If they find all the emails, he (or someone very close to him… ahem Valerie Jarret) will be exposed for playing a role in all this.

          THIS is an impeachable offense.

          Now we have Joe Biden to look forward to. Grrrrreat.

          • Stan522

            Massive cover up a zillion times worse than the missing tapes from Nixon. Nixon’s issue was a petty theft getting covered up by erasing tape recordings. This is using the IRS to intimidate American citizens for political gain. This makes obama’s presidency completely illegitimate and should be impeached and jailed.

            • Cellar Spider

              BINGO. However, one big difference. Nixon told the European banksters / NWO to screw off when he got the dollar off of their Bretton Woods, self serving gold standard….just like Kennedy did with silver and Lincoln did with the “greenback”. Notice any interesting similarities….

              Obama is fully implicit in the NWO’s extract american wealth grand plan so guess what, he gets a free pass.

          • talon1776

            We’ll Impeach Plugs too!

            • Mountain Trekker

              Biden- Come On Chuck, Stand up and take a bow. Chuck- You know I would Joe, if this wheel chair wasn’t holding me down. Media- Can’t remember that, but how do you spell “Potatoe” Trekker Out

          • WhoWuddaThunkIt

            The hacking Group “Anonymous” could find those E-mails in about 10 minutes if you give them an IRS Password or backdoor. Ed Snowden may already have them. Anybody ask him?

        • Wilson

          I’m NOT in IT and I KNOW they are available in several locations.

          • John W.

            All the Congress critters and Senators who have govt. e-mail accounts knew it was a BS story yet they never challenged it. Even after you retire your e-mails exist somewhere and the higher up you are the longer they are kept.

      3. Sick

        If it is too onerous for the IRS and US Government, give the files to the people. We have plenty of time and will be happy to find your criminal acts and expose them.

        • Archivist


        • C Howard Fields

          Retirees are the best volunteers and plenty of time to look & see

      4. eppe

        When do we NOT get lied to???

        • Unreconstructed Southron

          When they tell you they’re gonna kill you if you don’t shut up.

          • Kulafarmer

            Or that you can keep your healthcare if you like it

            • WhoWuddaThunkIt

              “I am Not a Crook” and Nixon said it with a strait face.

              I cannot Recall – Reagan on Iran/ Contra.

              “Read My Lips, No New Taxes” GH Bush

              I did not have mouth sex with that woman, Ok maybe I did. So what. Bill Clinton -Here would you like a cigar?

              “The Oil in Iraq will pay for the War” GW Bush

              “I Promise Hope and Change” Obummer A new open transparent Gubberment like no other.

      5. Winston Smith

        Ya know what? If it is “too onerous” for them to find these E-Mails (Oh no! We have to hit the search button on a computer!) then it is too onerous for me to pay taxes.

        • Kulafarmer

          Galts gulch here i come.

          • Archivist

            Been here ten years. I would lose track of the days of the week if it weren’t for church.

            • dontbeanidiot

              Are you really? I had the emails from them. Its in Chile right?

      6. Socrates


        Wasn’t that another lose TV show?

        So was the IRS explanation that those emails were …lost.

        The problem with their so-called story was they didn’t consult the IT geeks first. They KNEW there was no way in hell that data was lost, in light of todays technology with SAN/NAS RADI 10 units and cloud based backups. No friggin way. After enough geeks starting screaming about how absurd their lie was, they had to back peddle.

        One thing about the U.S. government…they have some of the best and worst liars on the planet all stealing from the same pockets…OURS!

        Speaking of liars and money…here it comes, get ready folks

        It Begins: Council On Foreign Relations Proposes That “Central Banks Should Hand Consumers Cash Directly”
        (from ZeroHedge site)

        … A broad-based tax cut, for example, accommodated by a program of open-market purchases to alleviate any tendency for interest rates to increase, would almost certainly be an effective stimulant to consumption and hence to prices. Even if households decided not to increase consumption but instead re-balanced their portfolios by using their extra cash to acquire real and financial assets, the resulting increase in asset values would lower the cost of capital and improve the balance sheet positions of potential borrowers. A money-financed tax cut is essentially equivalent to Milton Friedman’s famous “helicopter drop” of money

        – Ben Bernanke, Deflation: Making Sure “It” Doesn’t Happen Here, November 21, 2002

        A year ago, when it became abundantly clear that all of the Fed’s attempts to boost the economy have failed, leading instead to a record divergence between the “1%” who were benefiting from the Fed’s artificial inflation of financial assets, and everyone else (a topic that would become one of the most discussed issues of 2014) and with no help coming from a hopelessly broken Congress (who can forget the infamous plea by a desperate Wall Street lobby-funding recipient “Get to work Mr. Chairman”), we wrote that “Bernanke’s Helicopter Is Warming Up.”

        The reasoning was very simple: in a country (and world) drowning with debt, there are only two options to extinguish said debt: inflate it away or default. Anything else is kicking the can while making the problem even worse. Because while the Fed has been successful at recreating the world’s biggest asset bubble (in history), it has failed to stimulate broad, “benign” demand-pull inflation as the trickle down effects of its “wealth effect” have failed to materialize 6 years after the launch of the Fed’s unconventional monetary policies.

        In other words, a world stuck in the last phase before complete Keynesian collapse, had no choice but to gamble “all in” with the last and only bluff it had left before admitting the economic system it had labored under, one which has borrowed so extensively from the future to fund the present that there is no future left, has failed.

        The only question left was when would the trial balloons for such monetary paradrops start to emerge.

        We now know the answer, and it is today.

        Moments ago a stunning article appearing in the “Foreign Affairs” publication of the influential and policy-setting Council of Foreign Relations, titled “Print Less but Transfer More: Why Central Banks Should Give Money Directly to the People.”

        • Navy Vet

          I just finished reading that article ZH. The farther down the article I read, the sicker I got. If this “idea” to cure our economic ills gets traction, we all might as well find a hole and pull it in after us after we descend to the bottom. Dumbest economic idea I’ve ever heard of. Takes first place even considering the “Bush tax refund” and Barry’s suspension of withholding tax for a year.

          When you’ve dug yourself a hole you can’t climb out of, it’s time to stop digging.

          • Gods Creation

            “””When you’ve dug yourself a hole you can’t climb out of, it’s time to stop digging.”””

            Or at least dig sideways so eventually you can start digging yourself out at some point. If getting out is one of the options you want.

            The problem is, the hole was dug on purpose and there was no intent of ever getting out of it for the Fed. The purpose of the hole is to collect as much of your assets and FRNs as it can con you into giving it.

            If you file another tax return, you are condoning the activity of the corp. If everybody simply quit playing the game, the corp would lose control of the systems collapse, perhaps leaving an opening for the people to take such control back.

            If you are still afraid of the IRS, you are a coward. They are so easy to beat you can’t imagine. It will take them at least 3 years to find you, and by then the system will be over anyway.

            I haven’t filed in well over 20 years now, and I have held several corporate jobs over that time up until about 2008 when I left the “workforce” voluntarily for a better job that allowed me to keep 100% of hat I earn.

            And no, I am not writing from prison nor do I fear a visit or collection action. Even if they tried to collect, they are easily beaten simply by your control of the burden of proof and agreeing to pay any balance they can prove with documents signed under penalty of perjury.

            They can’t. They know it. And they know you have no clue what the truth really is, only fear of their lie.

      7. talon1776


        I mean it…
        …Live Free or Die

      8. y99

        I say we send in the San Marcos, California SWAT team to retrieve these emails, of course we’ve got to give them time to close the case on the umbrella terrorist attack they so successfully assessed and prosecuted.

        • Stan522

          The most casually dressed SWAT team I have ever seen…… That’s kalifornia…

      9. Confederate

        Naaaaa, who would have thought it? IRS lie? Never. (yea, right)

      10. TEST

        Thomas Jefferson on the fascist leftist liars in gov:

        “The great principles of right and wrong are legible to every reader; to pursue them requires not the aid of many counselors. The whole art of government consists in the art of being honest. Only aim to do your duty, and mankind will give you credit where you fail.” –Thomas Jefferson, A Summary View of the Rights of British America, 1775

        • Sierra Dave

          I just had an epiphany. Civics should have been taught at EVERY grade until graduation. Not just a pledge at the beginning of the day.

          We might have restrained the liberal facsists much longer.

      11. chugga

        Gov. Jerry Brown to Mexican Illegals: ‘You’re All Welcome in California’



        • talon1776

          What a Fuckah!

          • talon1776

            Gives new meaning to”Brown Shirt”

      12. Anon 1970

        I really think they all, the whole administration, ought to be hung.

        • tinker

          Anon- I don’t give a damn if they’re “hung”…. the word you’re searching for is- “HANGED”.

      13. Barn Cat

        Nothing is ever considered “too onerous” for businesses or the public. Only, apparently, for the government.

      14. TEST

        As Capt. Renaud told Rick in the movie Casablanca, “I’m shocked – SHOCKED!” For those of you leftist/fascists who don’t get it, here’s a hint:

        1. First, it was Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-N.Y.), Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, who went under investigation for tax fraud. Then it was former IRS head, Mr. “Turbo Tax” Geithner, and his tax, uh, “challenges.” This means that the two folks most responsible for U.S. tax policy were suspected tax cheats. Both cited ignorance about our tax law as an excuse (just don’t try this at home, or you’ll be doing 10-20 in Leavenworth!) Next, we move to Tom Daschle and his, er… lack of exactness with his taxes ($140,000 in taxes and interest worth, to be exact) and then on to Nancy Killefer, who was to be Chief Performance Officer, overseeing compliance, organizational effectiveness and waste management across every federal agency. Apparently, she couldn’t even oversee her own compliance with her taxes, and was also forced to drop out, right after Mr. Daschle did. Next came Hilda Solis, at the time in line to be Labor Secretary. She settled $6,000 in tax liens,, which were outstanding for up to 16 years against her husband’s auto repair business (http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.aspx?id=410768) . OneNews also reports she appears to have violated several House ethics rules re. disclosure forms where she “forgot” to note she was the treasurer of an outside organization, as well (presumably it’s only a rumor that “the cheque’s in the mail!”)

        2. Then, we come to everbody’s unfavourite, Al Franken, who NewsMax was noted as owing $70,000 in back taxes, penalties and fines to **seventeen** states (http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/al_franken_taxes/2009/02/06/179148.html).

        3. Then there was Bill Richardson for Commerce Secretary Sorry, he had a “pay for play” investigation on him for steering state bond business to a major contributor, and also withdrew.

        4. OneNews reported that then Trade representative nominee Mayor Ron Kirk admitted he owed roughly $10,000 in taxes from 2005, 2006 and 2007 for speaking fees. Maybe he was using Turbo Tax, too? Doggone that software!

        5. Tom Daschle’s replacement at HHS, Kathleen Sebelius? Nope, problems there, too (aren’t there any socialists who aren’t crooks?) Health and Human Services nominee Kathleen Sebelius had to correct three years of tax returns and paid more than $7,000 in back taxes after finding “unintentional errors” involving charitable contributions, the sale of a home and business expenses… she and her husband, Gary, a federal magistrate judge in Kansas, paid a total of $7,040 in back taxes and $878 in interest to amend returns from 2005-2007. (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090331/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/sebelius_taxes) . She also failed to disclose $23,000 in contributions from late-term abortionist George Tiller and his abortion clinic, and Family Research Council reported this week they obtained a copy of a 2002 fundraising letter from Tiller, in which he claims that he personally contributed $200,000 to ProKanDo, a political action committee (PAC) dedicated to defeating Gov. Sebelius’s pro-life opponent.

        6. Rahm Emmanuel, the guy who has sent dead fish to legislators that didn’t follow his orders, Obama’s former Chief of Staff and current mayor of bankrupt Chicago: The Our Country Deserve’s Better web site stated back then that Rahm Emmanuel violated congressional ethics rules regarding the rent-free living arrangement he enjoyed with Rep. Rosa De Lauro (D-Conn.), with some tax experts alleging this also amounted to $100,000 in taxable income that Emanuel failed to report, just as many other Obama administration aides and nominees failed to report or pay taxes on their income. Yes, another Obama White House aide who may have a tax problem. The same web site noted it also appears “Emanuel has possibly been illegally involved in that alleged scheme to sell off the U.S. Senate seat of Barack Obama. Emanuel engaged in questionable discussions with impeached Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich who is alleged to have been trying to auction off Obama’s seat to the highest bidder. Emanuel first discussed Obama’s preference of who should be appointed and then went further and submitted a list of candidates acceptable to Obama. These facts reveal that Obama and Emanuel lied when they assured the public that, Obama would have a “hands off” approach to the Illinois governor’s selection of who would replace Obama in the U.S. Senate.

        7. Then therer was Erroll Southers, who was in charge of the TSA and YOUR security when you board airplanes? Sean Hannity reported Nov. 11, 2009 that he was convicted of using the FBI to dig up dirt on the boyfriend of his ex-wife. And you thought Watergate stunk!

        8. Van Jones, who finally got turfed after taking the Green Jobs Czar position, according to his OWN account, became a communist while serving a prison term after being arrested in the 1992 L.A. riots. Media Research Center reports for the next 10 years he belonged to the activist Maoist organization STORM (Stand Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement); he has stated he is seeking “the deep satisfaction of radical ends,” and according to him, not only was the devastation of Katrina part of a white supremacy plot

        Oh yes… for extra credit,(no, you don’t get any credit for Tony Rezko, the Obama money man!)

      15. clueless

        I had an action with the DoJ. VERY eye opening. I accused the large bank of hiring people from India based on nationality. I provided many supporting facts. In fact, one executive manager with the company stated in a recorded phone call that “hired L1 Visa workers as staff augmentation”. That is absolutely against the law. Was anything done? You guessed it, a month or so later I got an email from an executive with the DoJ — AN INDIA INDIAN — who stated they were dropping the case.

        So, my point is the DoJ has some great people; but the decision makers are not concerned with JUSTICE AT ALL. IME. One interaction with them.

        • clueless

          stated “[the bank] hired L1 Visa workers as staff augmentation””. Was stated by one executive manager I had identified of these practices. E.g. promoted an India Indian to Sr. manager and got rid of his six non-Indian peer managers. The promoted one had about 91% of his team were India Indians. AND almost ALL of them SAT IN THE USA. AND the full-timers were paid about $90K for fresh out of college Indians and the 5 yr experience were paid $150K. In fact, they would not EVEN INTERVIEW the Americans when I would submit their resumes. Ridiculous since one had 25 years experience and clearly far, far, far more experience in the programmer area where they hired the Indians with about 5 yr experience for $150K. And the other was a wiz-kid with a newly minted degree, a minority, and ended up with a job making $65k. There were many other facts; but the main FACT is DoJ and also DoL and the state DoL don’t give two snorts about JUSTICE. In FACT then DON’T EVEN CARE IF THE LAW IS BROKEN — it clearly was in this case and that was CLEARLY documented. What they do care about is politics and agenda. Only way the FACTs of the IRS case will come to light is through POLITICS. Expect the tapes to be lost for sure.
          All we can hope is some maverick takes them public to the PRESS.

      16. Jim in Va.

        Let the NSA do it, they have the technology. Ask for volunteers from the public! It’ll get done one way or the other. Time for the courts to step in. Anybody in Justice or IRS that refuses to get the emails…fire them. either they all go or it gets done.

      17. Jim in Va.

        Let the NSA do it, they have the technology. Ask for volunteers from the public! It’ll get done one way or the other. Time for the courts to step in. Anybody in Justice or IRS that refuses to get the emails…fire them. either they all go or it gets done.

      18. eppe


        A lady about 8 months pregnant got on a bus.
        She noticed the man opposite her was smiling at her.

        She immediately moved to another seat.

        This time the smile turned into a grin, so she moved again.

        The man seemed more amused.

        When on the fourth move, the man burst out laughing, she complained to
        the driver and he had the man arrested.

        The case camg up in court.

        The judge asked the man (about 20 years old) what he had to say for himself.

        The man replied, ‘Well your Honor, it was like this:

        When the lady got on the bus, I couldn’t help but notice her condition.

        She sat down under a sign that said, ‘The Double
        Mint Twins are Comin’and I grinned.’

        Then she moved and sat under a sign that said, ‘Logan’s Liniment will reduce the swelling’, and I had to smile.

        ‘Then she placed herself under a deodorant sign that said, ‘William’s Big Stick Did the Trick’, and I could hardly contain myself.’

        ‘BUT, your Honor, when She moved the fourth time and sat under a sign that said, ‘Goodyear Rubber could have prevented this Accident’… I just lost it.’


        • David


          Fucking priceless!!!!!!

      19. VRF


        now who said that before?

        I remember saying no emails were lost, just like none of our emails are ever lost

        its posted right here on SHTF by me..I never bought her story from the get go

        • VRF

          ISP is where everything is..crash all the hard drives you want IRS idiots

          Hard to soar like an Eagle when you fly with pigeons
          or is that peons

      20. aljamo

        Special prosecutor to untouchable government entity: Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Government entity response: I have immunity because of National Security issues. Works every time.

        • Kulafarmer

          Then directly after that statement you should hear click BANG! Immunity DENIED!

        • Kulafarmer


      21. VRF

        In the meantime there’s nothing in the Corporate Owned News (CON) about the unarmed, 20-yr.old, white-guy shot multiple-times, exiting a 7-11, in Salt Lake City by a black police officer.

        We also hear nothing of the mob of blacks that are attacking innocent whites for “revenge.”

        Why? If it’s the CON’s job to report the news, why does the CON place 99.9% of it’s attention on this particular incident and ignore the rest?

        On average there’s a robbery every minute of the day. Meaning police respond to around 1,000-calls per-minute across the country. If there is an epidemic of police shooting innocent blacks where is it? What are the numbers? After all, liars don’t figure and figures don’t lie.

        So what is the CON trying to do? What is Obama trying to do? Is Obama sending anyone to the Utah man’s funeral?

        Wouldn’t it make sense that as things fall apart and the crimes of the elites become exposed, that they would want to have us fighting among ourselves? Black against white against brown, against yellow, as long it’s not the people united against them.

        Don’t be conned by the CON.

      22. Mamma D

        Hey, here’s an idea, someone, or some people with the skills to do it, could volunteer their services since our overpaid beuracrats think it’s too much of a burden for them to find the e-mails, I’m not tech savvy but I would be happy to volunteer to help in anyway I could to find these e-mails, free of charge for my fellow citizens of the country! Full disclosure for the people!

      23. David

        Okay, we Americans are used to having our politicians LIE to us. We are already accepting that. When they do something wrong, illegal, just tell us. We will understand. BUT, when you lie to COVER IT UP, the, that is just too much.

        Here’s what needs to happen. Obozo should get everyone in the White House, all the Department Secretary’s, and all advisors, and don’t forget the House and Senate. Line them up in rows by height, have one of the stateside ISIS teams-in-training come in and behead each and every one of them. Then, lets start all over, and we may get this great country back again.

      24. talon1776

        If you support Big Government…even if you were born here…

        • VRF

          and Burger King took your advice and said ..F you American Government ..no more inflated taxes for you

          So Burger King is going Galt too?

          I think our government is so good at fucking its self that they dont even know when they are done

          I agree F big government and their big taxes on EVERY ONE!

          all it is doing is funding the war against us

          • talon1776

            I can always count on you VRF to bring insight and profound commenting..
            Very well said.

          • Navy Vet

            and Barry’s buddy, the Presidential Medal of Freedom recipient Warren Buffett (aka the Oracle of Omaha), is financing the deal to tune of 3BILLION $.

            We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office. Aesop

      25. VRF

        Hey black folks, remember two weeks ago when you were angry about Obama’s failed economic policies and his plans to grant amnesty to twenty million illegal aliens which would screw the black community the most?

        So…That was before the democrat media complex shifted your attention to a thug that robs and assaults elderly store owners and attacks officers? Goebbels would be amazed at the democrat media complex’s ability to control your attention and thoughts like pets..(sheeple pets).

        they got you by the BALLS!

        • Kulafarmer

          But hey, 800,000 of them south amurikans need amnesty and worker visas,,,,,
          By the way, pay your taxes,,,

          • VRF

            yeah no kidding.. like any of those new Americans will pay any taxes.. and Now Burger king flipped the IRS the finger too

            we should all follow suit and watch this house of shit come to a hault

            mean while in other “news”

            The president of the NAACP was on TV last night and said they will not be satisfied with anything but a guilty verdict. They asked if he would respect whatever decision the Grand Jury came up with and he said not necessarily. They are trying to get a new prosecutor because they don’t like the current one. They now get to hand pick the prosecutor? They basically said if the officer is not found guilty there will be more mayhem in the streets.

      26. Mr. Smith (Formerly Grafique)

        The reason the Collapse is taking so long to happen is that Big Nanny Government wants you unaware of it; one day we’ll wake up and have a full-fledged New World Order.
        In that NWO, there will be two classes – Government and private citizens.

        Hang on to your guns!

      27. chucky beston

        This revelation and the possible implications that could derive from it are probably too good to be true. Obama is a puppet and public sentiment is being engineered through crisis acting and other contrived drama.

      28. chucky beston

        Do you really think that the tea party is just a thorn in the side of the Democrats? The tea party is also a burr under the saddle of the Republicans. Does anybody remember how Ron Paul was ripped off in 2012 by the Republicans? They hamstrung their own candidate to foist Mitt Romney on the public. If you can’t discern this than either you are a willing accomplice and fascist or a complete dimwit.

      29. River Rat

        If I were to lay any FRN’s down; I’d bet they were not the originals what say you. If not the originals they have been heavily tampered with. When they open their pie hole they LIE!

        River Rat at the ready!!! NOMI///MOLON LABE!!

      30. MayBeSo

        Ho Ho Ho…it’s CHISTMASS Folks!!

        Thi is too RICH to beleive.

        One way or another – since one can’t HAVE his cake AND eat it too – they’re SCREWED now, BIG TIME.

        Witness rhis: Either the FedGov openly admitted to utter incompetancy…and FIRED thier EBTIRE IT STAFF at every level Or those things – Emails – exists.

        The answer given here – if true – is that they DO.

        This is the PUSHBACK from that selfsame IT ‘segment’ realizing that there would be a ‘random’ (a non-‘MERIT based’ culling) ARMAGEEDON amongst them if they didn’t give up the stuff. Ha.

        IF so, then it will ALL come out now, truly “Patience is a Virtue”, No? Yep, the ‘cracks’ are gettin’ wider by the minute, aren’t they? Ho Ho Ho. Merry-merry!

      31. VRF

        You won’t recognize me. My name was Antonio West and I was the 13-month old child who was shot at point blank range by two black teens who were attempting to rob my mother, who was also shot. A Grand Jury of my mommy’s peers from Brunswick GA determined the teens who murdered me will not face the death penalty…too bad I was given a death sentence for being innocent and defenseless.

        My family made the mistake of being white in a 73% non-white neighborhood, but my murder was not ruled a Hate Crime. Nor did President Obama take so much as a single moment to acknowledge my murder.

        I am one of the youngest murder victims in our great Nation’s history, but the media doesn’t care to cover the story of my tragic demise, President Obama has no children who could possibly look like me – so he doesn’t care and the media doesn’t care because my story is not interesting enough to bring them ratings so they can sell commercial time slots.

        There is not a white equivalent of Al Sharpton because if there was he would be declared racist, so there is no one rushing to Brunswick GA to demand justice for me. There is no White Panther party to put a bounty on the lives of those who murdered me. I have no voice, I have no representation and unlike those who shot me in the face while I sat innocently in my stroller – I no longer have my life.

        So while you are seeking justice for Michael Brown, please remember to seek justice for me too. Tell your friends about me, tell you families, get tee shirts with my face on them and make the world pay attention, just like you did for Michael Brown, but there is a difference..

        I didnt do a dam thing to deserve this..M Brown on the other hand

        the crime against he white male continues to grow, yet nothing is done to show it, prosecute it. or even report it..we still go on without representation

      32. VRF

        The only information I trust from the American media is the date and time display at the bottom of the news cast.

        and lately I think they are fucking with that too

      33. ScoutMotto

        This is the continuing result of people insisting the government cannot legislate morality. Well, they sure can punish it if they want to.

        Lying is immmoral. Lying causes damage. Lying errodes trust. Lying by government should be punishable in ALL cases.

        Keep on a-preppin’.

      34. VRF

        remember the sound of “wet grass” in the Travon Martin case with the non -cursive reading witness ??

        Members of the Ferguson black community can hear the motion of Brown’s hands being raised on the recording.

        • Kulafarmer

          Stupid fucking people.
          Some of the worst sort of muggles

      35. VRF

        yeah its been posted before.. just making sure ya’ll know this

        Does anyone else think our news might be slanted.
        ABC News executive producer Ian Cameron is married to Susan Rice, National Security Adviser.

        CBS President David Rhodes is the brother of Ben Rhodes, Obama’s Deputy National Security Adviser for Strategic Communications.

        ABC News and Univision reporter Matthew Jaffe is married to Katie Hogan, Obama’s Deputy Press Secretary

        ABC President Ben Sherwood is the brother of Obama’s Special Adviser Elizabeth Sherwood

        CNN President Virginia Moseley is married to former Hillary Clinton’s Deputy Secretary Tom Nides.

        gotta just be a coincidence … right? RIGHT!

        • Navy Vet

          VRF … You don’t think that our dear beloved .gov would purposely go about foisting propaganda on us poor, underclass citizens, do you? /sarc off

          A den of iniquity doesn’t even begin to describe our .gov.

          Goebbels was a piker compared to this bunch.

          • Kulafarmer

            I think the govt can collectively go fuck themselves!

      36. tinker

        Face it folks– this is nothing new… A president gives orders to do something illegal (happens all the time) knowing fully well that his administration will cover for him for the next few years, fiddle-fart around chasing rainbows, making empty promises, lying and smiling behind the scenes. After the charade is over and charges or penalties are levied, he gets “pardoned” by the next criminal to take the oath….. sound familiar? Nixon comes to mind. So far it has been over 6 computers and now Lerners’ blackberry was destroyed……. what excuse can be used next that we are supposed to believe? I have to smile at the possibilities.

      37. Townsaver

        The emails should be on several backups, not just on the outgoing mail servers, but on the incoming side of the recipient. I run a local government mail server, and we have extensive backups, on-site, off-site and even snapshots in time covering months of use for instant retrieval. When someone ‘loses’ an email, I laugh, pull up the archive server and say, ‘you mean this one’? People are so ignorant to think that when they hit delete, and then ’empty deleted items’ that it is gone forever.

        These emails are easily available, they are just too damning. What are the American People going to do about it? Nothing. They won, we lost. Deal with it.

        What ‘they’ fail to realize is at some point, probably soon, the shoe will be on the other foot. The next president will be a witch hunter. They will not fix anything.

        The collapse is here. Manage it.

        • Xena

          .gov has multiple email backup copies. This is not about emails, it’s about misdirection manipulation and coercion. When the emails are suddenly “found”, there will be another scandal to wash this one away. Bet on it.

        • dontbeanidiot

          I agree. When government has lost the faith of the governed… at least the majority of the people are on the taker list. This pattern is not new. I’ll bet many governments collapsed after they had built a huge consortium of takers. I heard Rome had 20% on welfare. And they had conquered nations to extort!

      38. douseeyet

        So do you really think anything will come of this?

        Apparently you haven’t been paying attention, our new leader and his cronies are untouchable…………

      39. Trailer Park Investor

        When your taxes come due just tell the IRS they are in the mail and the US Mail must have lost them. he he he
        Hey it works for them…

      40. legal citzen

        bet the emails will turn up AFTER THE NOV 2016 elections.

      41. legal citzen

        every IRS or govt official who declared under oath, should be tossed into JAIL like NOW for perjury and obstruction of justice and contempt of congress UNTIL the emails are fully disclosed.

      42. Xena

        Sometimes I get positively dizzy from the astonishing corruption that is allowed, even acknowledged, sometimes even CELEBRATED in the country. The only think keeping this country from revolution is the EBT system. If ISIS, or –fill in the blank patsy group here– wanted to destroy America, all they have to do is bring down the EBT system. Total anarchy in 3 days. But lying, cheating, stealing, it’s all okay if there’s a cold 40 in the fridge and da waddaz not cuddoff.

      43. KeyBoard Commando

        You know, those French with their Guillotines might have been on to something…..OH ! Did I just say that???? No really a wood chipper come to my mind.

      44. Mensa141

        Onerous my ass. As an IT professional all one needs do is to write a query for all instances of Lowell ‘the weasel’ Lerner to return all her emails.

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