“It’s Just a Training Exercise”: Army Special Ops Shoot Down Jade Helm Conspiracy Theories

by | Apr 6, 2015 | Conspiracy Fact and Theory, Headline News | 212 comments

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    The Special Operations Command for the U.S. Army may be preparing to blend in during its mock engagement of hostile populations in the U.S. Southwest this summer, but first it is going on the offense to counter the claims of “conspiracy theorists” about the true nature of the controversial Jade Helm 15 exercises.

    The Army Times reported:

    U.S. Army Special Operations Command says that, contrary to reports circulating on conspiracy websites, it has no plans to invade Texas.

    Some fringe websites have paraded a PowerPoint presentation, reportedly from USASOC, as evidence of Jade Helm 15, a series of military exercises across California, Nevada, Arizona, New Mexico, Utah, Colorado and Texas. They say it will train the U.S. military to suppress American citizens rebelling in a coming military coup or civil war.

    “It’s a training exercise. Just a regular training exercise,” Lastoria said of Jade Helm, which USASOC documentation references as a training exercise in at least one previous year as well.


    The article singled out reports from Infowars and All News PipeLine, among others stressing concern about the preparations for martial law:

    Conspiracy websites painted language regarding civilian impact as revealing of the true nature of the mission: to prepare for abducting dissidents from their homes.

    Many of the conspiracy sites have focused in on the selection of Texas as a “hostile” territory. To them, a high degree of libertarian support, pro-gun leanings and patriotism make Texas a target. The slides also mark Utah and a pocket in Southern California as “hostile,” while New Mexico is “uncertain (leaning hostile)” and Arizona is “uncertain (leaning friendly).”

    The presentation slides say the area was chosen for its large undeveloped tracts of land and low population density. Texas in particular was chosen as the hub of the operation because it has been traditionally military-friendly, easing the impact or alarm the forces’ presence might impose on localities, according to the slides.

    Though disputing any ill intent, the Army Times admits that the Jade Helm drill is real, and that soldiers have trained for the approach – “mastering the human domain” – before.

    A “Civilian Research Project” paper from the U.S. Army Special Operations Forces states:

    “the human domain is the totality of the physical, cultural and social environments that influence human behavior to the extent that success of any military operation or campaign depends on the application of unique capabilities that are designed to fight and win population-centric conflicts. It is a critical and complementary concept to the recognized domains of land, air, maritime, space and cyberspace.”

    In an apparent predecessor to the drill, officers wrote on the need to project military operations and occupation efforts into the “human domain,” in order to engage the social, political and economic spheres seen as critical for mission success.

    It is a technological continuation of the double-edged philosophy of the Pentagon and White House to “win over hearts and minds” over the course of the flawed Vietnam War, a term known in more technical terms as pacification of the population.

    It’s focus on mapping the “Human Terrain” – using the expertise and techniques of anthropology – lends credence to the idea that the military are “rehearsing” scenarios concerning how to deal with independent-minded and anti-establishment people living inside Texas and Utah, the “hostile” states identified in the Jade Helm drill. On the human domain:

    “What we know and project about the future operating environment tells us that the significance of the ‘human domain’ in future conflict is growing, not diminished,” the service leaders wrote.

    One controversial tool to aid in the collection, processing and analysis of information in regards to the human domain has been the US Human Terrain System (HTS) in which social scientists, primarily anthropologists, have been utilised to conduct research and provide analysis to military commanders in support of the military’s operations […] At the height of the programme there were 30 HTS teams in Afghanistan and despite the challenges of the programme, it was widely viewed as providing value […] .

    Currently tools such as PMESII (Political, Military, Economic, Societal, Infrastructure, Information)[xxxiv] through to the excel spreadsheet in the British issued human terrain packs can provide valuable tools to begin the collection and processing of human domain information

    In short, it utilizes the psyop to persuade the population with co-opted leaders and copious amounts of propaganda and more subtle means of compliance and coercion.

    While watchful Americans shudder at the possibilities suggested by these training exercises, those who have been involved in these ‘humanitarian’ occupation campaigns throughout the convoluted and dragged out Aghanistan war have pointed to its profound failures:

    “The use of short-term aid and relief programmes as part of counter-insurgency has been ineffectual, and that, in places
    such as Afghanistan, it may even have undermined the overall military goal of defeating insurgents.”

    After all, the tactic – as its cries of peace play against a backdrop of a military invasion – are as chilling and empty as the words of a Martian visitor repeating “We come in peace” before attacking a stunned and off guard opponent.

    What history does teach us it is good for, however, is dealing with dissidents and stifling opposition.

    Many of the conspiracy theorists watching the events so closely have suggested that Jade Helm-type exercises are the perfect pretexts for “red list” operations.

    Meanwhile, someone caught footage of a drill in Florida wherein military personnel roundup up citizen role-players and loaded them into vans for rendition:

    Photos from an exercise in Connecticut suggest similar urban warfare training with specialized units going house-to-house.

    What are they really training for?

    Stay vigilant and stay vocal in calling out the unpatriotic use of forces for domestic control.


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      1. Will we ever be free from this crap?
        We just keep being ground down till we just give up?
        Something is gonna light a fire soon.
        Bless all here(we will need it)…

        • you cannot believe ANYTHING they tell ( govies) I have found this to be true from my past experiences in MANY types of govie work as a contractor, anyone who believes they tell the truth is a MORON, HELL OBUTTHEAD cannot even tell the truth!! wake up people as much as they are plying this down means exactly the opposite of what they are saying!

          • You can know the truth of when the government speaking by following the rule of thumb wherein you just simply believe the opposite of what their official story is:

            “We had nothing to do with 911” — yeh, you did it!
            “We didn’t give those guns to the mexican drug cartels” — Yeh ya did!
            “We don’t spy on the American people” — You are the worst offenders of privacy
            “The IRS didn’t single out conservative groups”
            “We lost the emails on destroyed hard drives”
            “Benghazi was a surprise attack provoked by a movie”

            ah shit, there’s to many to write. Just the believe the opposite

            • A wise man once said, “You shall know them by their fruits”!

            • I was born in the dark, but not yesterday.

              • They aren’t lying. They are going to shoot down conspiracy theorists! Fuckin military yes men order following assholes! I despise these pukes more everyday, What a bunch of spineless brainwashed, just following orders, retarded animals. Right or wrong is out the window, I must do as I’m told. Have a set of balls and say FU? Excuse me while I go throw up. Remember to support your mercinary, banker loving, govt. cocksuckers!

                • Out of curiosity, how does Montana fit into this? I am well aware we would be a “hostile” state, however, how would you be able to even have that many soldiers armed in a state like that? Us locals know the terrain better than any out of staters. Someone help me what to prep fore

                  • Johnny don’t worry about it. Large States like where we live that have No people, doesn’t even really concern the Feds. Take Montana or Wyoming or North or South Dakota all large States none of which even have a population as large as Metro Salt Lake City. And Utah is probably one of the lesser populated States of the Seven that their talking about. They’re interested in the populace States, we’ll just be a mop-up after the rest are subdued, we’re kinda up here out of the way, they won’t even have to pass through to get to all the rest. Trekker Out. Prep For Loneliness!

                    • Yes they do they probably think its easier to control smaller population than larger ones. I HAVE NEVER EVEN KNOWN THERE WERE SITES LIKE THIS UNTIL LATELY

                  • Remember those 32,000 drones that were brought back to the states after we left Iraq to ISIS? I’ve read recently-and seen video of the heat sensing and armaments that are being added to these things……They can use smart bombs or small missiles to hit objects/people on the ground while flying so high that they are just a dot to the naked eye….

                    After rounding up the mostly compliant city folks and herding them to their designated levels–they will slowly pick off those sequestered in remote areas.

                  • Chinese prepper Hipsters!

                • Patty hearst was perhaps a psyop. Dont know. But what the media reported about her experience was a lesson on how to mind control someone in just a few days using the basic centuries old techniques also used in military basic training. They locked her in a dark closet. The military isolates you from the world outside your company. One person provided all her needs. The drill sargent and military provides the recruit with all his needs. Tim leary wrote about this years ago. The comparison shows identical techniques that only differ in degree. Dark closet compared to isolation within the company. They did patty hearst in a few days and turned her into an irrational killer. Takes the military a couple months using the same less obvious techniques.

                • They bleed and die like the rest of us and are out numbered 100 to 1 at the very least.
                  They are training to die as traitors and nothing more.

              • OutWest,

                We always said “I was born AT NIGHT, but not LAST NIGHT.”

                I was wondering. IF these troops are practicing blending in to look for terrorists, then why aren’t they trying to blend in, in places where ISIS sympathizers are clustered? Wouldn’t the idea be to blend in with THEM?

                The fact that they hope to blend in with US, is what makes ME doubt their compartmentalized veracity.

                You don’t learn how to act like a chicken, in order to blend in with swans.

                • Sixpack

                  Like the way you put it better than mine.
                  I was born half an hour before midnight
                  as a Capricorn on the cusp of Aquarius.
                  I have since figured out that has been my
                  lifelong problem.
                  While the Water Bearer wants to race off
                  to check out new horizons, the Goat really
                  digs in it’s heels in defiance. Silly huh!

                  I like your analogy of the chicken and swans,
                  since we know that they’re here only for us.
                  The collapse will be long term, so their mere
                  presence will need to be recognized to keep
                  the plebes in line.
                  Sort of like a cop car with radar slows down
                  the procession of traffic.
                  They’re only schittin’ the naïve and stupid.

                • Train like you fight, fight like you train.

        • To all the great posters here, is it not irionic that the gov can take a private entity like the post office and make the mess that it is, others also….
          But can be efficient in dhs, irs, FEMA and others that exist…
          Makes one wonder…

          • Look at what they are doing to the healthcare industry,,,
            HMOs are getting choked by the new regs, and the physicians and clinics are getting screwed by medicare

            • Kula, I still cannot name a single business that our govt took over that makes a profit now.
              Can anyone???

              • Eppe, even DHS Homeland etc are running out of control budget wise, the replication and overlap are ridiculous, the lack of comunication between all of them is totally out of wack, you would think with their huge budgets they would have it together, bureaucracy is ridiculous though,
                Thats why i dont really worry too much, if they want to try and pull some crap they will get a kick in the ass, all the attitude and hard core military equip wont do shit when ego and arrogance get in the way,,,

                • Once the American masses start taking responsibility for their heath; recognize the value of good nutrition, exercise, and supplements, hospitals are done. 🙂

                  • You will turn blue holding your breath on that one. Do you think that doctors are prescribing narcotics and psychotropes and other free junk by the shipload because people don’t demand them?

              • The opium business in Afghanistan.

                The Cocaine business in Colombia.

                The war business to fund black ops and regime changes.

              • For sure Eppe. They can’t even run a theft ring without going broke.

          • well put, eppe.

        • You are right. The fire is close to being lit. This exercise no doubt something to do with taking America down. The amazing thing is that they can talk the US soldiers into going along with this farce. We must have some brain warped kids in the military these days. It’s a new generation of propaganda raised kids. Sort of like red diaper doper babies. Trained not to think.

          • Lmao your an ignorant fool. None of us in the military are brain washed or looking to harm our nation. Not too mention all of you conspiracy theory nuts are just plain crazy. Our government is far from perfect and our leader ship isn’t without it own delinquents but this thought of the military coming for you is just crazy. We are not receiving training on how to declare martial law on the populace. Focus on the real issues in the world today and stay off drugs.

            • Semper 03: You’re on the money, anyone who has been in the military would know this. That commentator obviously wasn’t or he wouldn’t have made such a foolish comment.

              • The only thing neccessary to a free state is the militia.
                You fools who join a standing army have already failed to protect and defend the constitution the moment you sign up.
                Slowly people are waking up to these simple facts.
                Sadly it will comeoto blood in the streets because of “good soldiers” who think there is honor in murder for money.

                The next time you get all dressed up in your uniform and check that your cover is on straight there will be a fool looking back from the mirror. Too bad you have swallowed too many lies to realize it.

            • If you only believe what you see you will only experience what is presented to you.

            • Semper 03 I hope that you or any American marine or soldier would disobey an unlawful order to turn on the citizens in the event that Obama declares martial law. I fully beleive this is planned by the current administration. If this happens with a combined nationwide attack around the 2016 elections will you then beleive it too? What will be your decision?

          • Todays military is no more brainwashed than the fools who fought In every other war this nation had. The civil war even got the fools fighting each other. All the wars are banker wars. The fools that fight them are even more mind controlled than the parents who encouraged them to go then made heroes of them.

        • That is, as always, up to us.

          We have been given CONSTITUTIONAL remedies for these actions on those who serve within our governments.

          They are the Militia of the several states, and NO, it is NOT a state Militia, it is a tool of the people themselves – though the state is taxed with training the Militias as congress requires of the US Military.

          Alexander Hamilton, Federalist Papers 28: “The militia is a voluntary force not associated or under the control of the States except when called out; [when called into actual service] a permanent or long standing force would be entirely different in make-up and call.”

          The Militia has as its constitutionally assigned duties to:

          — Enforce the US Constitution and each state’s Constitution,
          — Enforce and keep the “Laws of the Union” (which are constitutional laws ONLY),
          — Protect the country against all enemies both domestic and foreign, and
          — “to suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions”.

          The US Constitution guarantees to each state its own “Republican form of government”. It is every state’s Militia that is the ONLY Constitutionally assigned force to “counter Invasions” and “Domestic Violence” within our nation.

          It also FORBIDS those that serve within our governments to create a “standing” (permanent) military and/or a governmental professional law enforcement – state and federal. They are BOTH REQUIRED to use the Militia as that would not allow a police state to form.

          Tench Coxe: “Who are the militia? are they not ourselves. Is it feared, then, that we shall turn our arms each man against his own bosom. Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American… The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.”

          “… The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people” is pretty clear in its meaning.

          Richard Henry Lee: “A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves …”

          George Mason, Co-author of the Second Amendment: “I ask, Sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few public officials. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.”

          US Constitution, Article 1, Section 8, Clause 12 specifies that there shall be no military beyond that of two years. The Militia of each state is charged with our nations defense here within the USA until and unless the congress has declared war and a “standing” military is raised from the ranks of the already trained Militia:

          “To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years”.

          Clause 15: “To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel invasions.

          This clause is very straightforward. The militia of each state is taxed with the defense of the USA and her people, not just with the defense of their state; and they are to be armed with weapons that can repel any invasions bearing modern weapons of war. Congress is required to provide those military grade weapons for the militias.

          Clause 16: “To provide for organizing, ARMING, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress”.

          Clause 16 makes it clear that NO US military weapons are to go to any foreign nation or entity, nor are they to go to foreign terrorists, nor are they to go to any governmental professional law enforcement agency (which is not even supposed to exist). They are to go to the Militias of the several states so that they can train on them, and when needed, defend the nation with them until a military is raised..

          Btw, NO US President is the Commander in Chief until the US Congress declares War.

          Article 2, Section 2: “The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States…”

          “when called into the actual Service of the United States” makes that VERY clear.

          James Madison: “The power to declare war, including the power of judging the causes of war, is fully and exclusively vested in the legislature … the executive has no right, in any case, to decide the question, whether there is or is not cause for declaring war.”

          George Washington: “The constitution vests the power of declaring war in Congress; therefore no offensive expedition of importance can be undertaken until after they shall have deliberated upon the subject and authorized such a measure.”

          James Madison: “In time of actual war, great discretionary powers are constantly given to the Executive Magistrate. Constant apprehension of War, has the same tendency to render the head too large for the body. A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defence against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people.”

          James Madison: “Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied: and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force, of the people. The same malignant aspect in republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war, and in the degeneracy of manners and of morals, engendered by both. No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.

          James Madison: “The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home.”

          James Madison warned: “No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.”

          What about foreign alliances, is that allowed?

          George Washington: “It is our true policy to steer clear of entangling alliances with any portion of the foreign world. The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is, in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible.”

          Thomas Jefferson: “I have ever deemed it fundamental for the United States never to take active part in the quarrels of Europe. Their political interests are entirely distinct from ours. Their mutual jealousies, their balance of power, their complicated alliances, their forms and principles of government, are all foreign to us. They are nations of eternal war. “

          John Quincy Adams: “America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She well knows that by enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standards of freedom.”

          Thomas Jefferson: “Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations; entangling alliances with none.”

          Alexander Hamilton: “Foreign influence is truly the Grecian horse to a republic. We cannot be too careful to exclude its influence.”

          Hopes that helps to understand why this action here in the USA, on US soil, by what USED to be the US military, but is currently the UN Military actions are actually *TREASON against American citizens, against the US Constitution, and against the USA.

          It will also qualify as **TERRORISM against American citizens and against the USA.


          ** 28 C.F.R. Section 0.85 Terrorism is defined as “the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives”.

          • The Grand Jury.

            Justice Antonin Scalia writing for the majority said In the Supreme Court case of United States v. Williams, 112 S.Ct. 1735, 504 U.S. 36, 118 L.Ed.2d 352 (1992): “The grand jury is mentioned in the Bill of Rights, but not in the body of the Constitution. It has not been textually assigned, therefore, to any of the branches described in the first three Articles. It is a constitutional fixture in its own right. In fact the whole theory of its function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people”.

            “Thus, citizens have the unbridled right to empanel their own grand juries and present “True Bills” of indictment to a court, which is then required to commence a criminal proceeding. Our Founding Fathers presciently thereby created a “buffer” the people may rely upon for justice, when public officials, including judges, criminally violate the law.” (Misbehavior, “Good Behaviour” requirement)

            “The grand jury is an institution separate from the courts, over whose functioning the courts do not preside, we think it clear that, as a general matter at least, no such “supervisory” judicial authority exists. The “common law” of the Fifth Amendment demands a traditional functioning grand jury.”

            “Although the grand jury normally operates, of course, in the courthouse and under judicial auspices, its institutional relationship with the judicial branch has traditionally been, so to speak, at arm’s length. Judges’ direct involvement in the functioning of the grand jury has generally been confined to the constitutive one of calling the grand jurors together and administering their oaths of office. The grand jury’s functional independence from the judicial branch is evident both in the scope of its power to investigate criminal wrongdoing, and in the manner in which that power is exercised.”

            “The grand jury ‘can investigate merely on suspicion that the law is being violated, or even because it wants assurance that it is not.’ It need not identify the offender it suspects, or even “the precise nature of the offense” it is investigating. The grand jury requires no authorization from its constituting court to initiate an investigation, nor does the prosecutor require leave of court to seek a grand jury indictment. And in its day-to-day functioning, the grand jury generally operates without the interference of a presiding judge. It swears in its own witnesses and deliberates in total secrecy.”

            “Recognizing this tradition of independence, we have said the 5th Amendment’s constitutional guarantee presupposes an investigative body ‘acting independently of either prosecuting attorney or judge”

            “Given the grand jury’s operational separateness from its constituting court, it should come as no surprise that we have been reluctant to invoke the judicial supervisory power as a basis for prescribing modes of grand jury procedure. Over the years, we have received many requests to exercise supervision over the grand jury’s evidence-taking process, but we have refused them all. “it would run counter to the whole history of the grand jury institution” to permit an indictment to be challenged “on the ground that there was incompetent or inadequate evidence before the grand jury.” (end quote)

            And the Good Behaviour” doctrine where judges are ALLOWED to remain in office for life as long as they use “Good Behaviour” while in office.

            US Constitution, Article III, Section 1: “The judicial Power of the United States shall be vested in one supreme Court, and in such inferior Courts as the Congress may from time to time ordain and establish. The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour, and shall, at stated Times, receive for their Services a Compensation, which shall not be diminished during their Continuance in Office.”

            The US Constitution assigns what all judges, state and federal, must do to be allowed to stay in a judicial position, they are:
            — Required to take, and keep an Oath(s), or a combined Oath.
            — Required to “support and defend” the US Constitution and all that is in Pursuance thereof it before the duties of the office they occupy.
            — Required to carry out the enumerated duties assigned to the judicial branch by the US Constitution in a constitutional manner.

            That is “Good Behaviour” for judges.

            • In a nation of sovereign Individuals technology would be produced by individuals for individuals. Our technology is produced by organizations to make the organization and those at the top rich and powerful. Technology coming from organization will enslave man and maybe even cause his extinction.

            • When they read and comprehend what you have shown, and then compare that to how the UNITED STATES corporation is operating, then will their questions be answered. Questions such as to why there is allowed to be a standing army exercising extractions and infiltrations of Citizens of these united States along with UNITED STATES citizens, whichever the people declare themselves to be. Do they not have the resources supplied by taxpayer money to construct training facilities on American military bases to be used for such purposes? As far as that Jade Helm Master the Human Domain, they should ask themselves why in the world would a military operation use that particular logo. Jade Helm? Two arrows crossing each other? A sword pointing up? A semi transparent wooden Dutch shoe called a sabot in the middle, and, Master the Human Domain written on the bottom? Master the Human Domain? What kind of sick psychopathic satanic crap is that?
              The fluoridation, indoctrination and dumbing down program designed for the American people has unfortunately succeeded. There in lies the problem that has been created by the psychopaths running the world circus. That is my self educated opinion based on the facts shown.

        • Humans will never be free as long as they are organization minded. The oldest form of socialization is the social Insects who are so specalized the individual cant survive outside the organization. That is where humans are now. Organization is devolution. Evolution is toward the sovereign individual.

        • Every organization no matter how benign they start out, will if given time exist mainly to perpetuate the organization and benefit those at the top. That always destroys the sovereign man in that organization. The result is some level of enslavement. That is the nature of organization. No need to look any further than govt and religeon to see the process in fast track.

        • You can always tell if a nation is one of sovereign Individuals by looking at who has the right to violence. In the usa we sorta have the right to self defense with strings attached. All other violence must be okayed by the state. We are not a nation of sovereign individuals.

        • When the individual has the right to violence anytime anywhere without any interference from organization, respect and safety comes to the fore. If you mess over someone they or a friend or someone who doesnt like your style will take care of you and punishment is swift and sure. Violence or the threat of violence is what makes it go around. And who has the right to violence govt or individual.

        • The only time organization is wise is during war. Organization is always stronger than the individual. And is usually necessary when at war with another organization. When not at war the military must be put in its place or it will take over. All organation is dangerous to the sovereign individual.

          • Pre europeon indians of the americas were often tribes of sovereign individuals. The chief was always the poorest man in the tribe. He was always required to have 3 qualifications
            A good orator as he often spoke to the tribe. A good arbitrator as he solved disputes. And generous. The chief existed to serve the tribe. A sovereign individual would stop the chief should he get any ideas about organizing politically. During war they switched to a war time chief. Then back to the peace time chief after war.

        • If u ppl want to defeat Jade Helm; PAY ATTENTION!
          All of this must be done all at once because ur out of time.
          FACT: as the situation stands, if Jade Helm goes live, itll succeed without a hitch. Why? Because none of you have a plan beyond stocking things up and sitting on ur collective asses talkn shyt on the web, waitn for the knock at ur door.
          PLAN: Right now, they know everything about you and you know nothing about them. You dont know where they have their arms, tanks, mraps, helicopters, jets or ammo stashed, SO GET OUT THERE N FIND IT! If you know this you have a target and can sabotage their efforts. Also, you dnt know where they sleep, or where they eat or even shyt, AGAIN, go find it. They will indeed attack you when ur most vulnerable, so be ready to do the same to them. If they know that you know about them like they know about you, you may have already won.
          You need to understand ALL CITIZENS ARE VALUABLE IN A RESISTANCE. So, draw your lines in the sand, and let no one cross them. If u sit by and watch homeless ppl arrested n hauled away, will u also do the same when its ur pastor from church or school teacher? Or wat about your neighbors? Even ones u dnt like? When will u finally draw ur weapons and fire? When will u shoot to kill and not just scare? If u dnt stop the first outrage, even if its the homeless, ull reason all ur other fellow citizens away too until ur next on the list. Let NO MAN, NO WOMAN, NOR ANY CHILD, loose their rights if there was anything u cud do to stop it. If u dont, sure wnt be anyone left to help u when its ur turn.
          COMMUNICATION: Who has set up any kind of SECURE COMMUNICATIONS between urselves and fellow patriots? Do u even know who ur fellow patriots are? What about codes for messages or how the message gets to its destination? If ur pastor gets arrested, how will you know? How will u get help to go help him/her? Find ur fellow patriots and set up watches and security. Set up secure com systems n then link up with other groups. These enemy soldiers will be in full armour, only HEAD SHOTS will do u any gud. They are professionals, experienced in being shot at so ur not going to scare them. SHOOT TO KILL OR DIE STUPIDLY.
          Sitting on ur asses talkn shyt on the web just cuz u got some stores packed away waitn for a knock at the door isnt much different than wat a cow does in the stockyard pens waitn to be slaughtered. GET A REAL PLAN. THIS IS A WAR, NOT A TV MOVIE.

        • Never. Life is systemicly inclined this way. As long as there are people left alive; there will continue to be ills and woes. Any attempt to fix anything will only generate more problems if the main system isn’t destroyed.

          #killeveryone2015 It’s a scratch; nobody wins.

          • this sneak and peak they think they can come in my house anytime day or nite for the past 6 months. They are destroying my house also they have torn the siding all off to gain gain entrance. Just last night they were trying to get in behind my stove. they are blattent about it so much that it scares the shit outta me. They have made holes in thru the roof, and under the floor as well I live in the woods and am alone because , is another thing. They arrested my other half for an almost 2o year old murder of his late wife. He is innocent and they have kept him in solitary confinement since janusry ,this year. they have nothing at all on him ,its just the media. Im at my wits end, I’m an old woman and do not do any illegal actions. They are making me crazy and I cant tell very many people cause they think I am a nut case. I fear them just wondering when are they going to take me away. I think if I had anything but a bb gun we would have a ruby ridge to deal and they would most likely kill me. I have called the sheriff a couple of times until I realized that they are law enforcement too and are not going to do a thing can anyone help me or give me some advice?? I can’t just leave . this is my home. I know a couple others thar are going thru this same thing in North Idaho. So they definitely here . WHAT NEXT A Heart attack???

          • A lot of people do not realize that the people who SERVE within our government are NOT our government – that is the US Constitution and each state Constitution (and the contracts that they all serve under).

            Removing corrupt people who SERVE within our government is NOT destroying our government. Replacing those with the proper respect and understanding of the LAWFUL role they play is NOT treason.

            Treason is always against the people and the US Constitution, and it can, and often is (as it is today), those that serve within grabbing for more power, or paid off, or threatened and then working from within to destroy our legitimate government.

            Make no mistake, it is DEFENDING our legitimate government and our nation to remove the domestic enemies (traitors) of the USA, arrest, prosecute them. It is past time to replace them, but it IS our own fault.

      2. It is your choice who you are going to believe!

        • I believe what I myself see and hear. what can an old woman do again all this by herself. My pc and my phone is hacked so I know they read all I say and do. So WTF????

      3. when it comes to the government
        who the hell knows what to believe anymore
        they have a LONG LONG LONG history of LYING

        just a few examples

        The Biggest Secret of History: False Flag Terror

        htt p://www.blacklistednews.com/The_Biggest_Secret_of_History%3A_False_Flag_Terror/43240/0/38/38/Y/M.html

      4. Can we turn this military exercise into a double agent and have military personnel round-up and frog-march Obama, Hillary, Reid, and Pelosi into FEMA camps?

      5. Personally i would bet it is more intended to intimidate the illegals,
        I dont know too many folks like me who are intimidated by mil/LEO/or DHS
        And i know a whole lot who have ties in one or more ways to all these branches and would bet when push comes to shove it wont go how the globalist PTB think it will go,
        But then again this aint in my AO,
        If it was live and local my money would be on them rounding up the Hawaiian soverignty peeps, they have a much worse record when it comes to opposition to the government.
        BUT it isnt in our AO so

        • Once I read up on exactly how the U.S. acquired Hawaii, I can see their point…

          ht tp://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/americans-overthrow-hawaiian-monarchy

        • I am a white 100 percent born and raised in the USA. so tell me again who is being targeted ??

      6. Nobody posting regularly on this board need worry about Jade Helm roundups.

        The awake ones will disappear into the night and the others will invite them in for some Cheetos, Mountain Dew and a few episodes of Hannity and O’Reilly.

        • WHY DO YOU SAY THAT?????

      7. anyone else notice that none of the exercises are in the ‘redoubt’?

        wonder what they’re scared of?

        • Maybe they just don’t like BANJO MUSIC 🙂

      8. 9/11 wtc tt and bldg7 and

        oklahoma federal building child daycare center bombing

        were training exercises also TILL THEY WENT LIVE!

        • Yup. These bastards have a loooong history of evil!

          I’m awake, you freakin’ Luciferian SCUM!

          • OFF TOPIC

            I just had to post this, but I didn’t double space to save room…

            These are from a book called Disorder in the American Courts and are things people actually said in court, word for word, taken down and published by court reporters that had the torment of staying calm while the exchanges were taking place.

            ATTORNEY: What was the first thing your husband said to you that morning?
            WITNESS: He said, ‘Where am I, Cathy?’
            ATTORNEY: And why did that upset you?
            WITNESS: My name is Susan!
            ATTORNEY: What gear were you in at the moment of the impact?
            WITNESS: Gucci sweats and Reeboks.
            ATTORNEY: Are you sexually active?
            WITNESS: No, I just lie there.
            ATTORNEY: What is your date of birth?
            WITNESS: July 18th.
            ATTORNEY: What year?
            WITNESS: Every year.
            ATTORNEY: How old is your son, the one living with you?
            WITNESS: Thirty-eight or thirty-five, I can’t remember which.
            ATTORNEY: How long has he lived with you?
            WITNESS: Forty-five years.
            ATTORNEY: This myasthenia gravis, does it affect your memory at all?
            WITNESS: Yes.
            ATTORNEY: And in what ways does it affect your memory?
            WITNESS: I forget..
            ATTORNEY: You forget? Can you give us an example of something you forgot?
            ATTORNEY: Now doctor, isn’t it true that when a person dies in his sleep, he doesn’t know about it until the next morning?
            WITNESS: Did you actually pass the bar exam?

            ATTORNEY: The youngest son, the 20-year-old, how old is he?
            WITNESS: He’s 20, much like your IQ.
            ATTORNEY: Were you present when your picture was taken?
            WITNESS: Are you shitting me?
            ATTORNEY: So the date of conception (of the baby) was August 8th?
            WITNESS: Yes.
            ATTORNEY: And what were you doing at that time?
            WITNESS: Getting laid

            ATTORNEY: She had three children , right?
            WITNESS: Yes.
            ATTORNEY: How many were boys?
            WITNESS: None.
            ATTORNEY: Were there any girls?
            WITNESS: Your Honor, I think I need a different attorney. Can I get a new attorney?
            ATTORNEY: How was your first marriage terminated?
            WITNESS: By death..
            ATTORNEY: And by whose death was it terminated?
            WITNESS: Take a guess.

            ATTORNEY: Can you describe the individual?
            WITNESS: He was about medium height and had a beard
            ATTORNEY: Was this a male or a female?
            WITNESS: Unless the Circus was in town I’m going with male.
            ATTORNEY: Is your appearance here this morning pursuant to a deposition notice which I sent to your attorney?
            WITNESS: No, this is how I dress when I go to work.
            ATTORNEY: Doctor , how many of your autopsies have you performed on dead people?
            WITNESS: All of them. The live ones put up too much of a fight.
            ATTORNEY: ALL your responses MUST be oral, OK? What school did you go to?
            WITNESS: Oral…
            ATTORNEY: Do you recall the time that you examined the body?
            WITNESS: The autopsy started around 8:30 PM
            ATTORNEY: And Mr. Denton was dead at the time?
            WITNESS: If not, he was by the time I finished.
            ATTORNEY: Are you qualified to give a urine sample?
            WITNESS: Are you qualified to ask that question?
            And last:

            ATTORNEY: Doctor, before you performed the autopsy, did you check for a pulse?
            WITNESS: No.
            ATTORNEY: Did you check for blood pressure?
            WITNESS: No.
            ATTORNEY: Did you check for breathing?
            WITNESS: No.
            ATTORNEY: So, then it is possible that the patient was alive when you began the autopsy?
            WITNESS: No.
            ATTORNEY: How can you be so sure, Doctor?
            WITNESS: Because his brain was sitting on my desk in a jar.
            ATTORNEY: I see, but could the patient have still been alive, nevertheless?
            WITNESS: Yes, it is possible that he could have been alive and practicing law.

            • Thanks sixpack. I needed a good laugh.

              • @sixpack…I wish the thumbs up was still in play. That is some of the funniest shit I have read in awhile. Thousands of thumbs up for you!

            • Great one, 6.
              Happy Birthday late.

      9. I don’t know I don’t have that Oh Shit feeling about Jade Helm 15. Maybe because it is being held in the southwest. If something does happen that means I can get ready for it moving north.

        My feeling is that they are getting read for the Mid East, because Texas is the same size of Iran and it you look at Utah it is just a little small that Syria. Moving west you are looking at Cal as Israel.

        If anything they are getting read for this are and WW3.

        That doesn’t mean I trust the Guberment, because I don’t.

        Just keep you eyes open and your powder dry!


        • Sarge, DHS isn’t going overseas. They are aquiring riot gear and ammo and weapons at an alarming rate. They are planning on using it HERE!

        • I am not saying that we shouldn’t watch Jade Helm closely. And to be truthful the duration of the exercise bothers me.
          There is a guy from your neck of the woods that is former sof that kind of put it in context for me. His name is Pastor Joe Fox check out this video.


          • I saw this too, actually had a friend from Co email me and basicly said the same thing, and he is also former SOF,

            • this heres a shill or troll statement I’d read scripture first before I belived what this POS has to say fuck him.
              pstor Joe fox works for Satan not God that’s for sure he’s spreading
              dilusion in these last days.
              anything that doesn’t corispond with Gods truth is a lie fuck this guy!
              jade helm at present may not be for martial laaw but rest assured its for conditioniong. they don’ deed to trin in our cities to learn how to fight in cities they’ve done that for centeries. This kind of training sets a new kind of Precident and violates Posse Cometatious and or other forms of the Constiution.
              They have thier own bases to train on plus as stated else where they know how to fight in cities already so BS on this. tkeing paid actors in white vans like they did in that other video off to detainment camps isn’t for overseas its for here and people shouild know it.
              speaks volumes of Orwells 1984 where people dont know wtf the truth is because the stories keep changing every day. if paid actors can fool enough people into making them think its real then wtf makes anyone think they couldn’t do that in real life and say theres an emrgency at some point and declare martial law and no one would fight them on in because they would b seing the paid actors but not knowing that they were paid actors. Read scripture read the Books of Enoch Jubiless and all the dead see scrolls read end times books and pdf’s
              Theres one called the last days series by Joseph Cortes that’s pretty strait up.

              • Part of the clergy response team? Totally an agent of some sort

          • M and G
            Thanks for the come back.
            I know DHS is stock piling things we have see and read about it for almost a year now. I do believe that they are going to use it but why broadcast the area?
            Could this be Keep you eye on my right hand so you aren’t seeing what my left hand is doing? This is why I said keep your eyes open and your powder dry.

            Pastor Joe just might have his finger on this. If he is right the people that participating in this should try and learn as much as they can, and teach it to others. So if TSHTF they can us it to survive.

            Again good points from you guys. THANKS

            • Sgt.

              So I’m suppose to listen to the cop, telling me to listen to the former govie hitter, telling me not to worry about the govie hitters training to round me up…the gov’t is only here to help you, wink wink:) I promise:)

              Yah thanks but no thanks

          • I don’t read or post here much anymore because of the number of lunatics that now only distract from the real issue of survival.

            Jade helm concerns me because of its size and breadth. I’ve said here on this site in the past that I’ve taken part in these exercises on a much smaller scale; Huston 98, Philadelphia 99 and Jacksonville Fl 2000. I could be off plus or minus a year on these, but most would be verifiable based on that info alone.

            In an exercise like this you have many independent units acting separate from the other, but with the same mission end state, it is the mission goals that you’ll find the threat to us. Most solders focus on the task at hand (small Picture) rather then what they don’t know (Big Picture,) to a SOF guy the motivation built within an exercise is not important when it comes down to what I can get from the execution of a threat I’m willing to drive on based on the value of the training.

            In my last days behind the fence I’d say 99% would turn against the Government if the truth of the actual mission came out, and this is where the problem lies because TPTB can direct a SOforce with bogus intelligence knowing they’ll trust the intel. A situation on our soil should be enough to make these men question the validity of the info on hand to the point that they’ll trust but verify.

            All real SOF groups will want eyes on target 24-48 hrs out to verify the intel, this not being allowed will raise a flag unless they’re told and believe extremist situation.

            The real question is can SOF be tricked into an initial assault and the answers yes, but once they see and understand what’s happened I pity the mother fucker that gave the order!

            • y99
              Very good points.
              good to see you back. Missed a lot of your insight.
              Let us hope this thing is just a drill to make our boys better over seas.

              • I think if that was true, Sgt Dale, then they’d be dropping them white SOFs into brown areas, areas where they don’t know the customs and maybe can’t speak the language.

                Perhaps the greater value of this op, is recon. Think about it. These guys are on OUR side? So some people open up to them as they don’t pose a current threat. The possibility to learn a huge amount of inside intel is dangerous.

                While a wise prepper won’t talk, many many more will. They could learn where several “strange” guys live. They might stumble on a hidden BOL in nearby wooded areas, leave them undisturbed but marked for later. They might find some caches. This might compromise some escapes, when the time comes. I know I’d hate it if I cached and planned, only to find myself at the business end of a SWAT team when I reached my BOL/rendezvous point…


                In this case, I think inside intel IS the other hand, NOT training for the middle east. The info that could do US in, can only be gathered with quiet (trusted) boots on OUR ground…NOT in Syria.


                • …but I’m just a poor, disabled old woman…what would I know?

                  • You know a LOT! Keep the good points coming!

            • “The real question is can SOF be tricked into an initial assault and the answers yes, but once they see and understand what’s happened I pity the mother fucker that gave the order!”

              Obama already has that one figured out. Didn’t a bunch of SOF’ers die in a helicopter crash after they took out Osama Bin Laden?


          • The military trains in the environment they’re going operational in, desert for desert, mountains for mountains and large populated urban American city’s for???
            And why isn’t this training being held on the $98 million 300 acre fake American city built in Virginia that was purpose built at tax payers expense for this type of training???
            I guess the fake American city didn’t come complete full of pissed off Americans for that realistic feel!
            Maybe they’ve already done the training in the fake city for Jade Helm eh!
            So let this arrogant spec ops tool sway you from the facts of all the other “Training Exercises” that morphed into the real deal like 9/11, 7-7, Boston, Madrid, Sandy Hook etc.
            So let this ignoramus that took a few hours to analyze the situation with all his professional experience of 20 some years of being told how to think and what to do everyday lullaby you back to sleep.
            When a “Training Exercise” is announced it should make the hairs on the neck of every American stand up in fear from experience. If Americans learned from past events these exercises wouldn’t even be allowed period!

          • Ex military that loved to kill people for the bankers and their usa corporation. Can hardly trust you or your opinion. Just where do you draw the line on your messy Insane deeds. Just where does the corporation that controls the military draw the line. Kent state or ruby ridge or when they stopped the veterns march on washington. Or further back when they went against the trade unions who were trying to get their people out of damn near total enslavement. Sure we hv nothing to worry about.

            • Lunatic!

              • Mind controlled killer

        • Dave Hodges is sure it is prep for rounding up dissidents. Hagmann & Hagmann April 6.

          • And that is enough for me,,,
            Enough to get an eye roll and close the page that is!
            Hodges has another piece beating this thing again,

          • It is time that those in the so called alternative media switch gears with regard to how they report this particular issue. We’ve seen enough facts to determine that indeed, there’s an exercise happening called Jade Helm which will take place this summer and what it is intended to do.

            We’re sold. Now what? As my brother, a retired US Army Green Beret told me over the weekend – “I’m very concerned”. Well yeah. So I asked him why he continues to work for a defense contractor in support of the troops. He had no good answer.

            Alex Jones, Dave Hodges, Steve Quayle and every other high profile member of the alternative media as well as others needs to start publicly shaming those in the military that continue to serve and participate in these exercises. Confront you family members in the military and ask them 1) if they know what is taking place and 2) why they continue to serve in the military. Challenge them, enlighten them, educate them. And if you have a child who is thinking about enlisting actively discourage them from doing so. If you have a child who is already in tell them to get out at the earliest time that they can and not reenlist even if it means they lose out on a cushy tax payer funded retirement. Tell them that if they find this kind of thing as morally reprehensible as you do to leave, go AWOL and you will support them. If you are in the alternative media then direct some of your angst directly toward those that will be executing mock “dissident extractions” and not those that are ordering them. If I am ever “extracted” I won’t give a damn about who ordered it, I will care that a fellow citizen is physically assaulting me. My anger won’t be channeled to some flag officer up the chain of command but directly at the soldier(s) who have their hands on me, who are forcibly assaulting me at gunpoint and moving me against my will.

            There’s a cognitive dissonance to the alternative media. On the one hand they show reverence to the military and almost worship “the troops”. On the other hand they criticize exercise like Jade Helm and other activities meant to restrict and destroy freedom. You can’t have it both ways. If you believe in freedom and individual liberty then you must, MUST direct some of your energy directly toward those that carry out the orders and impinge liberty. Anything else is disingenuous.

            • David, Well said my man!

      10. Their Jade-Helm plan’s denial is a part of the SF Pysch-Ops….. deny, deny, deny….

      11. Believe the Government and you will be like the Warsaw Ghetto Jews. Take up arms and fight or die.

        • I see you have a little lice there, follow me.

      12. I think the Texas National Guard should hold “training exercises” of their own as the defender from an opposition force invading their state. What’s to worry about, it’s just a training exercise. And it’s a different story when the other side is just as well armed as the aggressors.

        • Interestingly, since too many sheriffs and other LEOs have not fallen into line as expected, the talk on Capitol Hill is to start taking back the 1033 military-grade weapons and training from state and local cops.

          It looks to me like the elites realized that the majority of cops, sheriffs and military will not follow some orders. I think they worry that their military yes men just might end up on the wrong side of a confrontation with the people.

          As usual, their first response is to start disarming the opposition.

          • I think they are worried that their prepositioned assets may not serve THEIR purposes, when they finally go to get them.

      13. I dont claim to know the details of what the purposes are of this exercise. I do know that the length of the exercise is important and that once the military is involved with the civilian population is a recipe for disaster. My brother and family is in the Dallas area. I just tell him to keep a low profile and be ready to hunker down, or get out which ever the situation dictates. Trust in the Lord, I just really don’t have a good feeling overall about this deal. God Bless and keep your powder dry, you may actually need it for other than hunting.

        Mike out

      14. We need to let them know it is not all right to use any troops to police the populace.

      15. Captain Crunch, you out there?

        • Yes I am Mr Marine , just hanging back an reading some comments here

          • Captian Crunch, there are obviously a lot of experts commenting on this. “Sarcasm”. I wasn’t going to comment at all, but I told you I would sitrep you and I try to be a man of my word.
            As far as the military is concerned this is simply a training op. There is no sinister alternative purpose. These training exercises are conducted often but on much smaller scale. On smaller scale I mean in the area of operation. The number of operators and support is rather small, but they’re trying to replicate the environment that a SO/SF team would actually find themselves in as far as operating alone as a small team with teams spread out over a large AO. You have MARSOC, MEUSOC, SF (18x,ODA,ODB etc)SEAL, Airforce Combat Controllers. All of these operators think for themselves. They are not robots that are programmed.
            The government may be watching and evaluating this op for other purposes that are not benign in nature, but the military is just training. That’s what we do. If we’re not fighting we are training. I’m not saying let your gaurd down, but this is not the operation you need to worry about. If DHS was conducting this exercise (which would be laughable) then scrutinize. I have participated in ops like this throughout NC, TN, GA and KY etc. My team got chosen to train civilian doctors in basic combat/infantry tactics and basic SERE tactics just a few years ago right outside San Antonio.
            I got more and could go on, but no one likes long post. Judging by the experts like Ass Hat, no need for another.
            Now on to more important issues. BEER.
            Just tried a few new IPAs that I’ll pass on to you.
            Evil Twin Brewing Molotov Cocktail (freaking awesome)
            Sixpoint Abigail
            Anything from Dogfish head.

            You and the five or so other commenters that are worth their salt have a good one.

            Believing in some is better than believing in none. Something is always better than nothing.

            • Mr Marine , thank you sincerely for that post. You are a man of your word. I will keep my eyes peeled and not stress.

              You got it on that IPA selection. I will most definitely try the Evil Twin MC. That just sounds awesome reading it on here.

              Here’s one for you (tried it this weekend and it was so good) –
              Lagunitas IPA. Ice cold in a short glass and it was bitter and hoppy in the best possible way imaginable.

              Thank you again for this post sir

      16. Another day, more lies.

      17. Genius the military command structure relies on individuals following orders. Drill sargents from day one let a recruit know he is gonna follow orders. This is good and bad in a way. Your right is some troop gonna attack us citizens just because he was ordered to. A lot of these call of duty types want any reason to kill anyone especially the marines. I believe they will because there is consequences for not following orders. When you sign up for military service you become govt property dig it property that they can do as they wish with. The military can’t have people who won’t follow orders. If even one person disobeys orders that is a breakdown in the machine. They will not tolerate this. The big question is will commanders pass the order on to the soldier. Once again I believe they will not only is it their duty officers get paid well for their service and most of them are career military people. They will not throw their career away to work as a beat cop. The good thing about it is when people follow orders the power of the military is hard to beat. Soldiers are different than cops they carry out orders. Cops are out to enforce laws yes they will use force if needed but soldiers are trained to kill what else is their job. When the army shows up it’s not to play patty cake. It’s a drill my ass it’s to get citizens used to seeing troops on the streets there is an enemy they are after we need to ask is it us or terrorists. I smell civil war.

        • @Ass hat

          Your post has the quiet gravitas of been-there’s behind it. Grounded in reality.

          Most of us would have a variably good chance against the Golden Horde or haphazardly armed but untrained criminal gangs. But no chance at all against a professional military. Not if there are two dozen of them at our doors at 0300.

          I have seen videos advising caching one’s stuff. To avoid firing on the military, which can end only one way for the isolated dissident. So that one can give something to confiscation raids by legitimate government. Which presumes they are there for one’s firearms and not to kill you.

          If they are there to kill you, or take you to a death camp, which amounts to the same thing, a rational person has every incentive to open fire right then. If it’s die now or die tomorrow, some of them are going to die first.

          The propaganda painting anyone who dissents from the government as evil and dangerous has been relentless for several generations. The people who bear arms for the government will be told anything the government considers expedient. And you are correct about peer pressure driving behavior. It would be sweet if a large fraction of armed government employees show their liberty stripe at the crucial moment. But one is living in la-la land to count on it.

          This isn’t Afghanistan where the relative few taking up arms against a foreign invader enjoy wide popular support. Are seen as heroes. Liberty people are a small minority of a largely uninformed and brainwashed Amerikan public. At any time the government can send enough muscle to your door or mine to roll right over us.

          Worst case scenario, our only choice will be are we going to die on our knees or on our feet?

          Let’s hope that never happens. But it would be foolish to believe it can’t.

          • I would rather die part of the III%
            Than live as an un armed slave for the rest of them

            • Will extend the benefit of the doubt,

            • This post by Kulafarmer says it all.
              Have Military operations of this scale ever happened in the States? Have we ever had such an anti-American President?
              Make no mistake, Evil is afoot.

          • Also understand most military people are under mind control. That is really the main purpose of basic training. They use centuries old techniques such as isolation, providing all your needs, uniforms, break you down physically, sleep depredation, mental abuse, constantly under threat, etc..you come out basic a different person. And you dont know that you are mind controlled. If you did you wouldnt be mind controlled.

            • I don’t believe you were ever in any US military training.

              • What does that have to do with anything. What is your point. Are you saying only mind controlled military have a valid opinion. Been a hell of alot of veterns return totally against the military. Their mind control broke down.

        • Asshat, I understand what your saying BUT, where do you draw the line? I am govt. property so I MUST terrize people and fire on them and round them up? If the orders are against the people they should say FU and fracture the unit. When it comes to matters like this the word NO trumps ANY blowjob they owe their masters.

      18. It’s a training exercise. Holy cow folkS. Take off your tin foil hats sometimes. Those are our guys not the Russians.

        • ya stupid but that dosn’t mean the wont remember the Civil war? it was our guys then too dumbass.
          how about read scriptures and know whats coming instead of trying to stupidfy people with your shill remarks and trollism!

        • I’d rather it was the Russians. I wouldn’t want to fire back on my neighbor either.

        • Armed,
          Are you sure Russian mercenaries won’t be involved? Hodges isn’t so sure. Listen to Hagmann & Hagmann April 6.

          • Trust me. I’m in this thing deeper than you could ever be… This is a nothing burger. If you think less than 2K soldiers can take all that land I can’t help you. Those guys are just as worried as most of us are to the fate of the country. They serve the country not the goombas in the political structure. Relax. Take a chill pill and go out side for a while.

            • The military seem to have no prob going across the globe bringing hell on earth for the bankers and all the other antihuman psychopaths at the top. But you are sure they will stop at the american people. Judge them by what they do not their words. And there is a never ending list of what they have done and then told you they were fighting for you. Judge them by their deeds.

            • Credibility.
              Soldiers have none.
              Door to door weapons confiscation already happened or are we suppose to forget a.c. ut Katrina.
              “Won’t happen”?!?
              Sorry but it already has.
              You betrayers had your chance to prove whose side you are on.
              You chose paycheck and pension so it is time to shut the f@ck up about how loyal to the people you are.
              Want to prove you are the exception?
              Stop obeying tyrants.
              Take off the uniform.
              Anything else is bullsh!t.

          • Trust me. I’m in this thing deeper than you could ever be… This is a nothing burger. If you think less than 2K soldiers can take all that land I can’t help you. Those guys are just as worried as most of us are to the fate of the country. They serve the country not the goombas in the political structure. Relax. Take a chill pill and go out side for a while.

      19. Well, to be completely honest, I can remember similar experiences when ol Bush was P- resident. It wasn’t jade Helm but reports of him and Darth Vader Cheney sending out troops upon us to grab us all up. Then they were going to test a big Bomb in the Nevada Desert, and lots more.

        I do believe that nothing our Governmint” says can be trusted much these days and all this krap will eventually happen and for real soon, when? No one knows, not us sheeple anyhow! Be Prepared and on guard and also Look Up as Our Redemption is either close, or not far off!

        • You can’t stop it, so learn from it. Trekker Out.

      20. Grid Ex II, wasn’t that suppose to go live?

        “Many have been wondering if the November 13th Grid EX II drill is going to result in a false flag attack in which the power grid of United States will be taken down and martial law will be implemented and enforced through the use of foreign mercenaries.” Hodges Nov. 2013

        If memory serves me right, that didn’t happen.

        How many times have we read this language before?

        OF course that doesn’t mean it can’t happen.

        • Grid Ex II, wasn’t that suppose to go live?

          As I recall, wasn’t there some flap about some missing nukes down in the south, around that time? Can’t remember the name of the military base.

          Wasn’t the war in Syria raging on in November 2013? Wasn’t it about then that the whole row over arming rebels to topple Assad was unfolding? Wasn’t there some sort of cover op that got thwarted in that time?

          Did nobody watch the other hand?

          • Point taken

            What are they really planning? Iran, Russia, etc. etc…..

            • it in the north too Ive seen about 100 with assault rifles at one time here on my property ,Practice?????whatever they are planning I wish they would do it somewhere else besides my property! I have taken lots of pictures and videos of them even tho they try very hard not to be seen. I just know if they don’t leave me alone I will be in a straightjacket and my house will in pieces. Also I tether my phone.

          • Six

            Wasn’t it also funny how after we started arming the “moderate” rebels, less than a year after that, some never before heard of highly trained and funded masked army (so brutal that al-Qaeda is afraid of them) just waltzed right down the Euphrates and tigris taking everything with them.. Things that make you go, HMMMMM……. One of the state controlled media channels just the other day was trying to say that big bad isis was recruiting 100 THOUSAND people a month, Gimme a friggin break. It’s amazing how when we get bored with one lie, they just make up something even bigger and more absurd…. and half these idiots today will believe them. God help me I need to puke everytime I start thinking about it.

            • “God help me I need to puke everytime I start thinking about it.”

              Roger that, RH.

      21. you all should watch the new tv show American Odyssey on nbc.

        it’s actually pretty close to reality.

        i’m surprised the zog cia and fbi censorship watchdogs in hollyjewood allowed it to be broadcast.

        they even show the u.s. military suiciding their own troops.

        which we all know has been done to seal team 6 , pat tillman , etc etc

        check it out American Odyssey

        • If it shown on mainstream tv bet your ass it is approved by the big boys. That media is completely controlled. And if it is showing something controversial even if it seems to be against the big boys, it is designed to fk with your mind somehow.

      22. Any suggestions on the least painful ways of hurting your family when you kill yourself?

        • Iowa
          Don’t do it!

        • Iowa,
          I hope these can in some way help you. There are so many decent men who get screwed by the system, it took my brother close to 3 years fighting tooth and nail for a “privilege” of custody of his 2 kids. He has damn right, and so do you. Keep fighting our families prayers for u and your daughter



        • Yeah Iowa, make an attack on Cuz, and he’ll do it for you. Then they will blame him.

          • Low blow.

          • To NorthGeorgiaIdiotsCousin: A real shit head comment dude…

            • Come on man, North Georgia’s comment was funny. iowa isn’t going to kill himself because if he did he wouldn’t be able to come back here and keep posting comments about how he’s going to kill himself yet again. If you guys keep lapping up the slop he’ll be happy to keep doling it out so wise up and ignore it and he’ll go away.

              • anon

                thumbs up

                • actually I take that back….Suicide is only funny when a Clown does it

                  • Get it??? Because clowns are funny!! 🙂 🙂


                    Two cannibals are eating a clown…..
                    One cannibal looks at the other and says….
                    Does this taste funny to you.

                    OMG…..LMFAO….Drum shot, badum dum, yah!

        • @iowa you owe it to your lil’ girl whom loves you no matter what and needs her father no matter what in her life ‘alive’ to tough it out and survive this.

          man up @iowa!

          get your head back in the game!

          And learn from this experience!

          ‘that which we survive in life makes us the more stronger!’

          here just watch, you aren’t alone or unique in your situation…

          • Those two are as ignorant as the rest of the American sheep. The UNITED STATES is a corporation with it’s own constitution that mimics the original Constitution. It is not a government that represents the American People. It does not recognize the Constitution for these united States. The united States are under martial law and have been since the Civil war. There are no more Constitutional or Common Law courts. The courts are corporate Maritime Admiralty courts of legal contracts and commerce. The Administrators and Wards are members of the Bar Association, which is a private organization, and do not recognize the Constitution. Those members, “attorneys”,
            do not have the best interests of the people in mind and conveniently forget to tell the people when they agree to represent them in court, that the people are now also wards of the court and have unknowingly agreed to be under the jurisdiction of the court and are at the mercy of that court. They are Admiralty courts of contract but will operate under Common Law just for the time necessary to hear matters pertaining to cases involving a crime, which is harm inflicted on someone or their property, by another. The rest are just violations of statutes, codes, rules and ordinances of a corporation. These “rules” are not Law but merely pertain to legal contracts or agreements made between the corporations and legal fictions. The courts will then immediately revert back to Admiralty law, all along still assuming everyone there is operating as a legal fiction and not a living and breathing being.
            When ignorant men and women rush off to obtain a marriage license they unknowingly enter into a legal agreement with the State, which is a corporation. The couple never realize that they have the God given Right as living and breathing men and women to marry without receiving permission in the form of a license from a corporation. The couple ignorantly assume to be only the legal fictions or persons legally obligated to abide by the statutes, codes, rules, and ordinances of the corporations. Clear examples are BIRTH CERTIFICATE, DRIVER LICENSE, SOCIAL SECURITY CARD, a bank account, and all other forms of corporate fictions or PERSONS. Since the corporations and their courts operate in the capacity of legal fictions, which are basically names written down on a piece of paper, and the couple have ignorantly agreed to operate in the capacity of legal fictions and have entered into such a legal agreement or contract with the State, they have now given the State the legal means to have a legal interest in the family and the products of that family, such as the children. It’s all down hill from there for the couple and their children, but it is payday for the State and it’s partners operating the grand racketeering enterprise of fleecing the ignorant American sheeple.
            It is that simple. If there is no legal contract or agreement, the paperwork does not exist and neither do the fictions. This evades so many minds that it is absolutely incredible. Please tell me someone here other than myself, comprehends this simplicity.

        • wow dude don’t do that crap that’s stupid you burn in the lake of fire for commiting suicide don’t do that shit!

        • I have no sympathy for someone who would commit suicide and take women and children with them. I don’t have any kind words for you IOWA. If you end up being THAT WEAK, then I’ll never miss you.

          All I can say is, if you’re really intent on letting life beat you down, then kill yourself if that is your true wish—but for the love of God, LEAVE YOUR FAMILY OUT OF IT…especially your innocent child.


        • Ii didn’t mean I would take anyone with me.

          • Iowa there’s Jack Shit we can do to help apart from posting comments. What do you want?

          • Go to God. He will give you the strength and wisdom to deal with this.
            After listening to Hodges on H & H last night, I feel like leaving the country. But that too is a temporary solution.

          • 1 request .. well maybe 2

            1st go look into the eyes of your child and tell them your quitting on them.. if you really love them, thats an impossible task,..and yes i know

            2 . dont use a gun , we have enough attention because of idiots like that already, yes im serious

            sorry im not all mushy and compassionate ,, taking ones own life just dont get past my tongue ..divorce isnt a death sentence.. its an open door to move on to better things

            dont think I know what im talking about?

            One step son
            one daughter from the same mother
            daughter has been adopted by my now wife

            both kids mentioned above have the same biological mother , but shes not my wife, it was a long road out of hell, but we made it
            and I fought for full custody of my daughter and won, than a year later got married to the woman who eventually adopted my daughter (paint a picture of how great the biological egg doner was?)
            yep it was a year from hell, but we survived it and you can too

            and how you do it is you dont give up , and you fight with your brain on how to win , and you become smarter than your adversary , and crush them with perseverance

            dont let weakness rule you, your stronger then that , and so will your child be, when they learn that from watching you.

            dont believe me ask my kids ..

        • Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

        • Pills.

          • Please everybody, iowa has got you all chasing your tails again. He’s not going to commit suicide, if he was going to do it, he would have done it already without making repeated attempts to post it here. Ask yourself a question, if one person gets a restraining order against you, its possible there could be a mistake. when two people get a restraining order against you, then you are most assuredly the PROBLEM!. He’s only doing this to gauge what kind of sympathy he can get from the local audience here, nothing more. It’s a SURE bet he’ll be back continuing to post this same nonsense again because he gets people to fall for his phony claims. Remember the old saying about people who talk the most about something actually do it the least, so stop falling for his baloney and he’ll stop saying it, problem solved once and for all.

      23. Genius.. You mean conspiracy truthers. These are no theories, just facts that are revealed on all of the tyranny committed by a government that hates truth and truth tellers. The truth is their greatest enemy. American’s must present the truth in mass in public to effect any change. Force the hand of the enemy, make them reveal their intent in order to awaken people who are oblivious and asleep.

        • I hear you man, it is truth!

      24. I’m wondering if the purpose behind Jade Helm, besides the conditioning of the American people to military on the streets and practicing for martial law and the round up of so called enemies of the state, is to locate leaders and organizations who are against this exercise and what’s happening in our country and there by infiltrate and eliminate them before they actually start the complete take over of America. Be careful and vigilant and ask God for discernment,these are evil days.

      25. So . . . what *are* they training and gearing up for?

        I think we all have a pretty good guess.

      26. A training exercise….sure . On how to kill American citizens.

      27. NO what they did was give some Bullshit answer that’s what they did. read the bible and scripture and the truth will set you free. meaning hwen people try to debunk you just tell them to read the proof given to us be our lord and saviour who millions of years ago predicted this.
        Millions because one day is but a thousand years with the lord. the first generations lived almost a full day 900 years each or so. that means 7k years had ot pass for all of them to die before the flood.
        But yes Jade helm is practice for the real thing.

      28. ““It’s Just a Training Exercise”

        yeah. but for what? Don’t tell me Iran or Syria.

      29. to those that post crap and say oh no it’s not happening BS that just what the lord is doing to send strong dilusion in the last days so that the wicked will believe in a lie.
        this pearticular operation may not be for martial law but I bet it’s conditioning us for when it does come. That fucker in that video above has no knowledge of anyting truth. He’s probably one of those Romans 13 fuckers who swore a while back to be loyal to the Communist Merika we now livae in. The saying it has dominating the human domain isn’t some benign statement that doesn’t mean nothing. Its a statement with the purpose of propagandarising the populace first then showing force later. One can’t dominate the human domain without showing force to humans and the other sheeples out there. dominating the humam domain is just that dominate us were the human domain! Dont listen to those naysaying videos that are trying to tell people that Jade helm is nothing more than regular training thats BS.
        Our soldiers are just now coming home from Iraq and Afghanastan they know how to wage war in urban areas and city places they’ve done it for years ww2 for example they had to wage war in the streets of Berlin! Big city just like Miami or Ft Lauderdale like that other video shows paid actors being whisked away into white vans.
        Don’t believe those fuckers!!!!!!!!!!!
        Even if this isn’t that time Martial laaw is and will come. It did in Boston it did in Louisiana. it has in small cases around the county several times since 9/11 so don’t be fooled that our Gov gives a rats ass about you and yours they dont. Only God cares for you not Gov.
        may in those days will serve you up to the judges and persecute you. Many will betray you etc… it’s written all over the bible about what to expect in the end times
        don’t listed to those atheist idiots who will share their sould in the lake of fire with satan they have no care for you either. get prepared for only 144k people wont worship the beast or take his name or number so get prepared to make that choice its coming now not tomorow or later but now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tribulation is here now not waiting to come but here!!!!!!!!!!!!

      30. I have certain rules I live by. My first rule: I don’t believe anything the government tells me.
        –George Carlin

      31. Yes its all a “conspiracy” until they get caught or what people have been saying becomes just another fact.

        It was a “conspiracy” that average speed distance traps were going to be used on major roads and now you would stupid to argue that they don’t exsist.

        The Army is still on the peoples side but the pigs have sold us out and should be seen for the stinking scum they are.

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      33. Ap I’m not saying they will definetly attack citizens. Yes they are our guys and haven’t troops been ordered to round people up and burn whole villages down and didn’t they do it. you can say well that was another country and those people were suspected in aiding the enemy. Sure these guys have a heart and don’t want to do this. People in the military want to be there and some are just looking for permission by commanders to drop the hammer. Right now there is no draft it’s not like a guy was drafted and didn’t want to be a soldier but was forced to by his govt and then ordered to burn villages. A while back my brother got in some trouble and in order to not be locked up he worked a deal with the judge to join marines he scored high on asvab so was wanted by the service. Well he went into the infantry. This is what he told me about infantry. Infantry forces are trained to KILL not detain like a cop. Every bit of training is about the fastest way to destroy an enemy. There is no ratcheting up force like a police encounter to subdue someone. They will drive a kabar into you and you will bleed out. He told me that the guys want a reason to kill. A lot of them are highly intelligent and violent bully types. The training is designed to break you down as a human being and build you into a violent tool for the gov. None of this training has any thing to do with upholding laws. Let’s not be naive we know troops are for war. Don’t for the psycolological desensitizing designed to make you comfortable seeing tanks and troops on the streets. They are not there for nothing. There is an enemy they are looking for.

      34. Are these participants walking calmly in single file?

        Lots of things happen when it goes from training exercise to the real deal. Zip tie handcuffs. Pepper gas and being yelled at while pushed and shoved. A few hits with a baton will move you. Of course live fire.
        White vans everywhere to take you away.

        Take a step back and look at all the problems we have in this world. Do you think they will ever get resolved? No, because they do not want them resolved. They want a new one every week.

        Lies upon lies to cover more lies.

        • This jade helm is just so when the real thing happens, and you see helicopters and people walking single file, and you ask, what is going on? Then they will say move along this is just a routine training exercise… And then you will believe them.

      35. It can be done! Learn from history. King George had all the resources and army that
        would obey every command. Somewhere between three and seven percent of the
        colonists had nothing but the determination that they would not bow to this tyrant or
        his henchmen. From where these few came from, there were pastors and believers in
        Spirit felt truth. It was and will be a Spiritual War. The Spirit can survive and live unless
        it has been defeated before the battle begins. To accomplish the awakening, the doubling effect must start. 1-2-4-8-16-32-64- and on and on for 40days, Notice
        how the world has changed when this is made real. When each can bring another out of their slumber. Patrick Henry’s Spirit will once again be alive and well.

      36. “Martial law is coming”

        well than lets just get this party started than ,, talk sh*t get hit , bring it

        so you say you want a Revolution?, well hell you know , we all want to change the world .. so lets get it on

        some are already too blind to see we are way past 1/2 way there already .. war has been declared upon you , you just haven’t had the pleasure of the visit yet

      37. They control the money.
        They control the news media.
        They control the government.
        They control the education.

        • they = jews

          • solus lupus

            Jewish revenge for the Holocaust?

            It would seem the Jews have their fingers in every pie that is of importance to the welfare of a Nation. They are not the only ones.

            The world has gone from depending on each other to survive, to killing each other to survive. Despite all the high tech advances.

            The rich and powerful all look down on us no matter who they are.

            The rich in California still water their lawns and that Hilton family kid on the plane that called the passenger’s peasants.

            The good part about all this is, that it will become so bad that those people will not escape their own wrath. Karma has a way of proving this out.

            • ‘it was the greedy international jews trying to take complete control of germany’s banking finances and industries who created the so called holocaust=holohoax!

              they left the german people no other choice but to either bow to jew greed or fight back and the germans fought back to take back the country from the greedy international jews.

      38. I read some of the comments posted and just shake my head. Some of you are really out there in paranoia land.

        And many others of you are not taking into account one very BIG fact..

        The majority of we military, including we SF, are NOT going to turn against the very oath we took to defend the Constitution and our country and the people. Do you really think we are all that dishonorable? Do you really think we are going to turn and open up on all the people we know including our own families?

        While there is always a very small percentage of any group that has the ‘yes’ men and those that just follow orders regardless, 90% of the military believe in the oath we took “to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies foreign and domestic, so help me God” It also states that I will also bear true faith and allegiance to the same, I will obey the orders of those appointed above me and those of the President.

        HOWEVER it is also FACT that we do not and are NOT required to follow ANY such orders that are illegal, immoral or unconstitutional.

        Some of you need to pull your heads back out into the sun shine. Because if you actually think the majority of us military are really looking to “do you in” based on the bullshit being put out by obama, then what is the point of you even doing anything, let alone sitting here bitching about it and making up even more shit? I mean if that were the case, most of you would pretty much be screwed completely and there would be NO HOPE at all for our country nor our survival if we military turned on our own.

        Use some COMMON SENSE people. Like I said, yes there are always the yes men and the power grabbers in any organization. But the majority of us are AMERICANS who believe in what we serve and we will do so, foreign AND DOMESTIC, if our country and the Constitution needs us to stand and fight. But we will NOT turn against our own. NOT going to happen.

        • If you find yourself in the field..and in this type of drill, and you are ordered to confiscate citizens weapons similar to New Orleans during Katrina….which by the way the boyz from Oklahoma did indeed confiscate weapons from law abiding citizens at the POINT of a GUN……what if a citizen says no and uses his weapon in self defense to your UNCONSTITUTIONAL ORDERS…are YOU going to refuse to obey,as you say most will..then WHY would you even be in ‘the field’ to start with where by placing the ‘citizens’ in a position to engage you in the first place…just asking

        • malakie
          If anything you said were true , ya’ll woulda already done took care of DC and all the crooks within

          they sign your fuckin paycheck pal you’ll follow orders or get shot yerself

          See you said –> I will obey the orders of those appointed above me and those of the President.

          means youll do what yer told and not think if its right or wrong.. those bastards in DC are not your pals , and dont give one shit about your family

          the orders already followed by some of your armed forces are already illegal immoral and unconstitutional

          the yes men will visit you fist and show you what you missed on the last drill

          you wont refuse any order ,, your peer group would eat you before you made one move for the door and you know it

        • Since you havent applied your oath to arresting ones at the top who have taken us over and control the military, I must conclude you are talking out your ass. You dont even seem to know that your big bosses are the enemy.

        • Did you forget Hurricanes Katrina and Sandy already?

          What about Boston, do you think that was constitutional?

          If you support the US Constitution, and understand it, then you know that these wars of aggression are NOT allowed. (Support at end of comment)

          What about Panetta, Dempsey and Obama giving control of what used to be the US Military to the UN and NATO – an act of treason by them against the US Constitution, the USA and the American people? And treason is always against the American people, NOT those who serve within our government, out there to carry out specific duties.

          Do you believe that Obama, or any of the US presidents since our last congressionally declared war is the Commander in Chief?, If so, you are incorrect as the US Constitution makes it very clear that:
          1) ONLY the US Congress can declare War.
          2) Those that serve as US Presidents are the Commander in Chief ONLY when “… when called into the actual Service of the United States”

          Article 2, Section 2: “The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States…”

          So, all US Military, if any are left, are unlawfully being used in wars of aggression that have no lawful authority, actually are FORBIDDEN here under our LEGITIMATE government, the US Constitution.

          Then, we have a man who is impersonating a US President as he was NEVER a lawful presidential candidate – see a & b below). Besides only having one parent – who may have, or may not have given up her US citizenship – who might have still been a US citizen (and the requirement is two parents being US citizens); plus there was Election Fraud committed multiple times from the very beginning by *TRAITORS to the USA. Shutting up the voice and will of the people is a treasonous act by those who committed Election Fraud.

          a) The 2008 Democratic Nominating Committee (DNC) document did not include the normal language stating that Obama was qualified to be a candidate. The 2008 Republican Nominating Committee (RNC) document did, as is normal. This shows that the DNC knew that Obama was not qualified, or why change the form?

          b) South Bend, Indiana JURY found that Election Fraud put BOTH Obama and Hillary Clinton on the presidential primary ballot in Indiana in the 2008 election.

          *People v Herkimer, 4 Cowen (NY) 345, 348: “The people or sovereign are not bound by general word in statutes, restrictive of prerogative right, title or interest, unless expressly named. Acts of limitation do not bind the King or the people. The people have been ceded all the rights of the King, the former sovereign, …It is a maxim of the common law, that when an act is made for the common good and to prevent injury, the King shall be bound, though not named, but when a statute is general and prerogative right would be divested or taken from the King (or the people) he shall not be bound.”

          * Panetta Publicly Admits U.S. Military/Obama Takes Orders from The U.N. March 7, 2012…

          *President Barack Obama sent Speaker of the House John Boehner, Ohio Republican, a letter on Monday stating the administration’s move to begin muliti-lateral military operations in Libya as a result of authorization from United Nation’s Security Council.

          * The Obama administration itself has routinely cited the authority of the United Nations in relation to last year’s invasion of Libya, which was conducted without approval from Congress.
          * … President Obama arrogantly expressed his hostility to the rule of law when he dismissed the need to get congressional authorization to commit the United States to a military intervention in Libya…
          Obama tried to legitimize his failure to obtain Congressional approval for military involvement by sending a letter to Speaker of the House John Boehner in which he said the military assault was “authorized by the United Nations (U.N.) Security Council.”

          * Asserting the authority of international powers over and above the legislative branch, Panetta and Obama openly declared that they no longer represent the American people and instead are under the authority of the UN and NATO.

          * U.S. Troops In Neighborhood Streets Fully Armed.

          * President Obama decided he doesn’t need to obey a congressional ban on funds to the terrorist entity known as the Palestinian Authority (PA)… he gave $192 million to the PA after Congress specifically banned such aid under the Palestinian Accountability Act.

          * Rep. John Larson: “They consulted the Arab League. They consulted the United Nations. They did not consult the United States Congress,” one Democrat lawmaker said of the White House. “They’re creating wreckage, and they can’t obviate that by saying there are no boots on the ground. … There aren’t boots on the ground; there are Tomahawks in the air.”

          Note that Obama knows this is NOT Constitutional so is treason against the USA, breaking the Oath is a felony and Perjury.

          So when you say “Some of you need to pull your heads back out into the sun shine. Because if you actually think the majority of us military are really looking to “do you in” based on the bullshit being put out by obama,…”

          Understand that since you are not only aiding and abetting TREASON against the USA and the American people – admittedly for not understanding YOUR OATH, and the US Constitution – though that does not absolve you (generic “you”) from your actions based on the Nuremberg Trails and Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), Article 92.

          Basically “just following orders” and “just doing your job” is not a defense because if those unlawful orders were not followed those unlawful/illegal/terrible things would NOT HAPPEN which is why KEEPING the Oath is a personal responsibility.

          So if the Oath REQUIRES the SUPPORT AND DEFENSE OF THE US CONSTITUTION from all domestic and foreign enemies wouldn’t treason against the US Constitution, the American people qualify as the US Constitution needing the REQUIRED “support and defense”?

          James Madison: “The power to declare war, including the power of judging the causes of war, is fully and exclusively vested in the legislature … the executive has no right, in any case, to decide the question, whether there is or is not cause for declaring war.”

          George Washington: “The constitution vests the power of declaring war in Congress; therefore no offensive expedition of importance can be undertaken until after they shall have deliberated upon the subject and authorized such a measure.”

          James Madison: “In time of actual war, great discretionary powers are constantly given to the Executive Magistrate. Constant apprehension of War, has the same tendency to render the head too large for the body. A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defence against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people.”

          James Madison: “Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the Executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors, and emoluments is multiplied: and all the means of seducing the minds, are added to those of subduing the force, of the people. The same malignant aspect in republicanism may be traced in the inequality of fortunes, and the opportunities of fraud, growing out of a state of war, and in the degeneracy of manners and of morals, engendered by both. No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.

          James Madison: “The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home.”

          James Madison warned: “No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.”

          George Washington: “It is our true policy to steer clear of entangling alliances with any portion of the foreign world. The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is, in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible.”

          Thomas Jefferson: “I have ever deemed it fundamental for the United States never to take active part in the quarrels of Europe. Their political interests are entirely distinct from ours. Their mutual jealousies, their balance of power, their complicated alliances, their forms and principles of government, are all foreign to us. They are nations of eternal war. “

          John Quincy Adams: “America does not go abroad in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She well knows that by enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standards of freedom.”

          • Please do not think I do not appreciate your service, but less of our family members would have been killed and maimed; less foreign citizens and their children would have been killed and maimed if those that served KNEW the US Constitution and what the Oath means.

            They would have said “NO” to those unconstitutional orders, no matter WHO gave them because the loyalty of the US Military and the US people goes to NO PERSON who SERVES within our government, it goes to the US Constitution as each Oath requires and reminds. BTW, WE ALL were wrong, not just those that serve because we started letting those that serve tell us what the US Constitution means, and that we are all paying for now.

            If there were never intended to be action to defend the Constitution from those who are domestically attempting to destroy its power and authority, why would each Oath require it of those who take the Oaths?

            God Bless, and never forget, KEEP your Oath!

        • So what are you waiting for start defending the people. Why are you in the military. How can you join and stay in a military that crosses the globe murdering and taking for the psychopaths at the top. And then pretend that you have concern for people anywhere. Your words contridict each other. That is what mind control does to you. And you exmilitary who cant really leave the military are disgusting. You have defacto chosen your side. If your words were true they would be words about overthrowing the pentagon. These words I speak might well bring me harm and if so it will be you pricks in the military or your cousins in a police force that bring it. All of you talk b s.

      39. Civil war or a coup by the present administration is not the only reason for training like this.

        Consider other options as well.

        Such as preparing -training- to deal with an invasion, which is becoming a real possibility with today’s mechanized warfare making troop movements from abroad viable.

        Both Russia and China are doing similar things this year (the military training exercises) and I doubt they are training to attack their own people.

        Maybe there are other legitimate reasons as well, not everything the government does is sinister even though a good deal of it is.

        Personally, I’m wondering if a major war involving a massive surprise attack on our nation and how to counter it is being considered. The west coast and southern borders are where I would expect this (an invasion) to take place with other means of attack carried out on the east coast and northern regions since a very rapid “blitzkrieg” style of invasion would be much more difficult there.

        • IF that were the case..then the MILITARY should be training with the STATE MILITIA’s..so that this country would have and overwhelming trained force to repel any invasion…….they are NOT …so then…what are THEY really training to do among the ‘citizen population’….just asking

      40. The Rapture will happen 6 days after Passover this year- the end of the Feast of unleavened Bread- the EXACT SAME DAY God’s people arrived on the DRY LAND after crossing the RED SEA those thousands of years ago. Watch and SEE

        THERE WILL BE A WORLDWIDE solar eclipse, caused by the planet Mercury blocking the sun on
        Friday, the tenth day of April- the LAST day of the 7 day Feast of Unleavened Bread…. the SAME day that Gods people crossed the RED SEA thousands of years ago.

        7 days after PASSOVER on April 4…which is the day of the 3rd blood moon-

        NO-ONE will hear ANYTHING of this on any mainstream news source.


        THE WHOLE WORLD CHANGES THIS DAY- the antichrist (you know who he is) presents himself
        as the savior of the world this day, the same time as an atomic disaster in the ME. They are going to say they are here to “save us” with the greatest deception mankind has ever seen. ALL LIES- TURN TO JESUS MESSIAH NOW and be SAVED from the hell on earth to come!

        • Mark 13:32
          But of that day or hour no man knoweth, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father.

          • Amen and amen.

        • Pre-trib rapture is incorrect.

          No one will know who the antichrist is beforehand.

          No one, not even Jesus, knows when the second coming will be.

          Mercury is much smaller in diameter than Earth, so a “world-wide solar eclipse” would be physically impossible, no matter how close to Earth Mercury got.

          That’s an amazing number of false statements in one message. Maybe Obama’s speech writer helped.

      41. They have a dossier on everyone. NSA has classified and categorized every person in the country, and assigned a threat level based on the data. The conditioning is nearly complete to the extent that most Americans are clueless, and thus present a nearly zero threat to the system. Of the approx 20 million Americans that are categorized as a threat (to certain degrees), the govt has established an extensive logistical program that will suppress and eliminate any opposition to the NWO agenda. Most will be intimidated into compliance by the vast array of resources the govt has at its disposal (IRS, EPA, DEA, etc….) There are numerous ways to “neutralize” almost anyone. The last holdouts will simply be facing paramilitary swat teams in the middle of the night. The media will be complacent in demonizing the targeted individuals, making them out to be radical far right-wing “lone-wolf terrorists”. The masses of brainwashed Amerikans will simply accept the NWO….as the country dies not with a bang, but with a wimper.
        This is a sad and frightening fact….but a fact none the less. There is no place to hide. No place to run. Preppers are concieved of good faith, but misaligned in reason….All the energy devoted to survival could be allocated to attacking the enemy now, before it is too late. Once the SHTF, most on this website are simply fooling themselves into a false sense of security. You will be among the first to be “targeted for neutralzation”, with little hope of defeating or escaping such a formitable enemy. “come out of your bunker and surrender, or perish” will be the last words you will hear.!!!!

        • “J”, excellent observations and advice.

          • and IF 20 million ,get just ‘one’ each……Checkmate….imho

      42. Anybody notice the backlog for high cap mags for MAC 11’s and 9mm carbines? Rock River Arms has about a 2 month backlog. RRA uses UZI style mags and MACs use Sten type mags. I’m talking about steel mags. I don’t really trust the reliability of the hard plastic mags.

      43. 3 Words:

        Posse Comitatus Act

        Fuck the scumbags in office. Fuck these sheriffs sitting around letting this shit happen. Time for obummers “change” to happen. Bundy Ranch Nationally. Screw these pigs.

      44. They did this same thing in Ft LAuderdale when I lived just west of there in the 80’s. That makes it at least 30 years worth of training in the Ft Lauderdale area. This is nothing new.

        • Accept 30 years ago, I trusted the government.

      45. Exactly what part of mathematically impossible to repay debt don’t you understand???
        What part of America loosing its world reserve currency status with all its implications from over printing money don’t you grasp???
        This exercise is for the inevitable financial collapse that’s rapidly approaching and by July will probably be in the thick of it. Its for when wealth is stripped from Americans personal banking, savings, retirement and pensions are seized.
        Its for when people in mass finally wake up to reality and realize they’ve been lied too, sold out, betrayed and robbed. Its for when people are in disarray from hunger and completely destitute and their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.
        Its to protect those that have created this situation.
        This and only this is what Jade Helm 15 is for.

        • So you believe In the justice system. They have us covered from every angle. Nothing meaningful for humanity will come out of the justice system. That and the vote aint gonna get the job done.

      46. I have tried posting this comment to Dave Hodges articles twice. For some reason, he refuses to let it post. Maybe it seems trivial or something, but he lets all kinds of lame comments through. It makes no sense. Here’s the comment, about the Jade Helm logo:

        I’ve been analyzing the logo from a graphic artist’s perspective. It was probably designed for a patch or something to start with, and then it didn’t work very well when adapted to print, because you can barely see the shoe in the middle. Judging by the font used, it was probably someone without much experience that designed it. So they weren’t so concerned with the quality of the logo, only with the elements it was made of. The arrows are self-explanatory, but I have my own theory about the shoe. I don’t think it was chosen based on what’s in fashion, although the NWO has its tentacles in all aspects of society and it’s within the realm of possibility that fashion designers have been “told” to produce this type of shoe. Bear in mind clothing isn’t just based on the whim of a designer but throughout history, form follows function. For example, the tail of a formal tuxedo wasn’t designed to look good but to facilitate horse riding.
        It looks like a woman’s clog, the kind that are like slippers, with no back to hold them on at the heel. The heel rises up just a little bit above where the heel sits. I’m a female (although I have a male nom de plume) and for the past 20 years I rarely buy any shoe that would be too hard to run in. Any shoe without a back has a tendency to fly right off your feet if you run in them. Why do I always want the ability to run? Because of any threat that may occur, especially a roundup of dissidents. I’m probably the only woman in town who thinks this way! But I am practical and forward-thinking. I don’t want to be hobbled for the sake of fashion.
        So why do I think they chose that shoe? Why not a high heel shoe if they wanted it to be hard to run in? Because it needed to be something the average woman would wear at any time, especially if they put on shoes in the middle of the night to go somewhere. Most people probably wear sneakers at home, but they are made for running. Why a woman’s shoe? Because if a woman has trouble running, her husband is going to slow down to help her, so it slows them both down. I think they chose a shoe that represents the sheeple being unable to get away.

        • It is said that high heels represent bondage AND are the same mindset that is behind chinese foot bondage. High heels dont deform the foot but they sure make it hard to get away. And they position the ass up and out in a vulnerable position. You ladies should be ashamed of yourselves.

      47. Time to Man up and Gear up and be ‘out there’ when THEY try to ‘blend in ‘ with the population and culture…If you want it to stop …One must stand up to stop it….One big ‘civil disobedience ‘ get together…Texas style with the rest of the ‘targeted states’, showing the ‘occupation forces’…American Hospitality………..imho…Semper Fi

      48. I hear the train a comin’
        It’s moving right along
        not your usual freight train
        transporting cars and coal
        or even hauling logs

        No, this train has special freight cars
        all sanitized and white
        built for human cargo
        but not for human rights

        Reminiscent of box cars on trains
        in Nazi Germany
        that were used to carry human beings
        to death camps as we would later see

        But now here in the USA
        It’s not the ‘red coats’ coming
        we need to worry about
        It will be the blue helmets of
        the U.N. taking us to FEMA camps
        or some covert redoubt…

      49. Why aren’t we doing something like suing to prevent this exercise? Why are we acting like zombies or lwambs going to the slaughter?

      50. How come no exercise are occurring where liberals live? Like New York, Holloweed, Washington DC., etc.

        Effing BULLSHIT exercise!

      51. Of course the army is going to come out with denial propaganda, insisting their motives are not against the American people.

        I’ll keep this simple. The U.S. military does not represent the interests of the American people. They serve their corporate and banking masters whom they have surrendered themselves to a long time ago. The American military serve the interests of the Business Roundtable, the Domestic Security Alliance Council, the Federal Reserve, and behind all this the Rothschild family.

        The American military can whitewash their motives all they want, however the recent Florida footage in Fort Lauderdale streets clearly showed military operations practicing snatch and grab operations. The map which is on the Jade Helm document lists certain states as hostile, period. The military is preparing to go up against American citizens.

        When you think about it, how do we know who will be wearing American uniforms during jade helm? How many foreigners will be involved?

        The way I see it is this, if soldier boy doesn’t mind lying to the American people about preparing to do snatch and grab operations on American citizens (NDAA), then soldier boy won’t mind dying by the hands of American citizens who are defending themselves. You traitorous f*cks.

      52. The mafia only false flags where it owns the political and judicial systems. This way if anything ever goes wrong, they can control the outcome. Ex, just look at the kangaroo trial in Boston right now.

        Map: Red vs Blue States by County (fyi Blue is Democraps)

        Past False Flag Ops:
        DC Naval Shipyard shooting: blue
        Aurora, CO: blue
        Sandy Hook, CT: blue
        Boston, MA: blue

        Jade Helm cities:

        Birmingham, Alabama: “BLUE”

        Fort Worth, Texas: “BLUE”

        Gary, Indiana: “BLUE”

        Minneapolis, Minnesota: “BLUE”

        Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania: “BLUE”

        Stockton, California: “BLUE”

        Their going to crap in their own sandboxes, then use their lamestreamliars to spread their stink across the country. Based on their past criminal behaviors, keep your cameras charged and ready. Film everything! FALSE FLAG IS IMMINENT!

      53. Just know that this is not “our” government. In Fact, it is not a government at all, it is a luciferian cabal. The founding fathers did not flee Europe to escape “religious persecution”. They fled to get away from khazar bankers, the very creatures that have subverted our country and taken high reign of everything so many of us took for granted.

        If you want our country back you are going to have to get sober, alert, healthy and hard. Stop supporting their system. Stop watching TV and providing for any of their propaganda by not enrolling in monthly cable bills or providing for Hollywood’s crap in any way. Teach your children to do the same.

        Buy local organic food as much as possible and stop eating GMO garbage. Start gardening and start local community gro-ops, work with your neighbors, GET INVOLVED.

        Dump your cell phone. It is a tracking device and a source of radiation that is detrimental to your health. Start talking to people again face to face, texting is a joke for fools. What are they going to introduce next, Morse coding?

        Protect yourself from chemtrails, HAARP and affiliate radiations, sell what you don’t need and get off the grid.

        I might seem a bit over the top but it is what has to be done if you want to start seeing a difference in our lives. The question is, do you care enough? If you do, stop supporting their structure and it will collapse. God speed and stay safe, strong and alert.

        PS The only way to kill a demon is to cut off its head. Washington DC is where the head (or at least the apparent head) resides. Are you going to wait until they go door to door in your neighborhood with all their technology or go where it makes sense to mount an offensive? Just a thought.

      54. Those A’Holes are just talking to the mindless zombie masses, who live off of their vomit/lies. The rest of us are F’N’ tired of all their obvious fascist BS. Be vigilant & ready at all times, if you’re not already! God help us all from what’s coming. Shalom

      55. They know they can lock the cities down look what happened after the marathon bombing. They could be training to clean up the rural areas after the cities are all under control. An event of terrorism or worse is soon to come. They will use it to trick our police and military forces into thinking their protecting us when in reality it will be just the opposite. Stay awake and armed folks a shit storm is on the horizon.

      56. Subjugate enslave control Only reason for government and religion. the bible that you call the word of god.that statement is a lie in and of itself.Im not saying that there is no god.the words were all written by men In every book of every organized religion. If man did not write them they wouldn’t be there to read. Now to the jade helm thing. I do not repeat Do not trust our government or any one whom claims to have all the answers to trust them for my own good while having their hand in my pocket. This drill is exactly what they say it is, and exactly what you say it is. It is practice for the war for America. There are so so many players in this that wish to further subjugate the usa. Guess what there’s no way to win this one.Any and all industries that can deliver what we need to win a war have been removed from this country. We can not put a single plane,chopper,tank or even a non armored vehicle in to play without getting parts or materials from our biggest threat CHINA Comunist CHINA. Last time i checked they would have a military five times larger than we could muster. There’s no possible way to re tool for a war effort there is no way to rebuild all the pieces together in time under fire. If we start a civil war cause of a training exercise we will be sealing our own fate. Its time,no past time to. Put our differences aside and reboot the America we say we love. China has been calling for the disarming of all Americans for decades. But thats fine keep shopping at the Great Wall of Mart. And put all your neighbors out of a job. There will be a war that will came on the heals of any uprising. And it will be a red tide. If there is one fact about god it is he will not save us from ourselves. No matter how many words MEN wright to make us feel better…. See you in the end game

      57. Spec Opts better lay low or they wont be around to fight the enemy. Sounds like a setup for a blood bath one way or the other. There is no way this can help Americans in uniform or jeans.

      58. Y’all should know that maybe Jade Helm is meant to divert our attention away from a really VERY serious issue. On June 1st, section 215 of the Patriot act is up for renewal. It either gets extended for another 4 years, or even indefinitely, or finally gets tossed into the dustbin. They are hoping everybody will be distracted enough to let the Patriot Act renewal vote proceed unopposed. It’s not the whole patriot act, but it is the one that allows for unopposed surveillence of, essentially, anyone.
        Best summary is at the Electronic Frontier Foundation. Since I don’t know if links are allowed here, do a search for this article from January 29th “Section 215 of the Patriot Act Expires in June. Is Congress Ready?”

      59. “In an apparent predecessor to the drill, officers wrote on the need to project military operations and occupation efforts into the “human domain,” in order to engage the social, political and economic spheres seen as critical for mission success.”

        What kind of babbling bullshit it that? Sounds to me like they think that by sounding “esoteric”, they can waltz in and project onto the human domain. Well cupcake … try this human domain. And don’t forget your kevlar.

      60. Pitch,
        Colorado is purple
        Texas is RED
        DC is purple
        LA is RED

      61. When the “Obama hits the fan” communications is my biggest worry, gov’s got Commo wrapped up.

        American troops trying to learn to blend in during Jade Helm? What great preps for Syria, Yemen, Afghanistan, Somalia. We’ll blend right in, eh?

        Why doesn’t Jade Helm jump down into the Mexican interior for a little police action against the ISIS groups said to be operating down there? And if no ISIS, wipe out some drug cartels or other corruption.

      62. Just another chapter in the saga of Obama derangement Syndrome.

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